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Kilosmorning superfly magespawn and others06:22
Kiloshi psyatw 06:23
bombermanmorning Kilos!06:28
Kiloshi bomberman nice to see you here06:29
bombermaninetpro, superfly, Kilos website events updated with new dates06:29
bombermanYeah Kilos, been a while :|06:29
Kilosbad man06:30
Kilossite link bomberman ?06:31
psyatwhi Kilos06:32
psyatwhi bomberman!06:32
bombermanKilos: http://ubuntu-za.org/ look on the left06:33
Kilosty06:33
Kilosis that the same one that opened slow last night06:36
Kiloswas quick here now06:36
Kilosty for updating all the meeting dates06:38
psyatwbomberman, are you related to megaman?06:40
superflypsyatw: no, he's the original bomerman06:51
superfly(is everyone here so young they don't get that reference??!!)06:51
Kiloshi Vince-0 06:51
Kilosim too old to get it06:52
Vince-0haai06:52
psyatwhi superfly06:58
psyatwhi Vince-006:58
Vince-0surp06:59
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mazalMorning everyone07:02
superflygood evening07:05
mazalEvening ?07:07
superflyask Kilos07:07
mazalhehe ok07:07
mazalOom Kilos , wat gaan aan ?07:08
mazalDoes anybody know how I could translate an entire Libre Office calc (.xls) sheet ?07:09
superflytranslate? nope07:09
mazalWouldn't be a valid question for Askubuntu he? Cos it's not Ubuntu related ?07:10
tonberry352_translate the language?07:11
Kiloshi mazal tonberry352_ 07:11
Kiloshehe07:12
tonberry352_hi07:12
Kilosmazal, libreoffice is ubuntu related07:13
mazalOk , gonna try and hope to not get scolded07:13
Kilosbest place to ask funny questions like that is google07:13
mazalGoogle don't know07:13
Kilosthen last resort ask here07:13
mazalNot yet anyway , checked through first few pages of results07:13
Kiloshmm...07:13
bombermanhi psyatw, not related to megaman. sorry.07:14
Kiloswhat do you want to convert it to?07:14
mazaltonberry352_, yes , translate from Afr to Eng07:14
bombermanhow many rows to translate mazal?07:15
tonberry352_If it is just text, convert to csv and find something that can translate plain text files.07:15
mazallemme check07:15
Kilosno translaters do a good job07:15
tonberry352_No idea how to do it if it has formulas.07:15
tonberry352_pay someone...07:15
mazal1121 rows , 2 columns07:16
mazalJust txt07:16
Kilosis it a secret document07:16
mazalNo it's a scriptures sheet07:17
bombermandid you try Google translate? it doesnt seems long. I would create an English column then copy 50-100 rows at a time into Google Translate07:17
mazalIt's what I build up over the past 2 years , now one of my friends needs this truths desperately , but she is english07:17
Kilosyou speak good english07:18
mazalBut I want her to have the whole document. There is too much food in there to go through quickly. Will take her time07:18
mazalbomberman, google translate just went bonkers on me. Froze up completely07:19
bombermanmazal try to paste 20 rown into Google Translate.07:19
mazalI think I should try that07:20
bombermanyou could put it in a html document and upload it to the internet. She can look at it with Chrome which will offer do translate the whole doc automatically.07:20
mazalhmm07:20
mazalWhatever I find that works must be easy repeatable. It updates almost daily07:20
mazalBut where would I put the html doc ?07:21
bombermanyou could put it in dropbox and share the link.07:22
Kilosand you have a ubuntuone account07:23
bombermanare these scriptures from the Bible? You could give her the book and the verse references.07:23
bombermanSoftware Freedom Day start guide -> http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/StartGuide07:25
mazalbomberman, yes07:26
mazalOver 1100 sections with multiple scriptures for each07:27
Kiloswhew07:27
mazalSo I want her to have the doc in English. Is too many too give one by one07:27
bombermanmazal I dont think a translation engine would be the best to translate biblical verses. It is geared more towards general every day language.07:28
mazalOom Kilos > http://www.mediafire.com/download/97e7rmbu7uh0k8y/Spreek_Heer_ek_luister.zip07:29
mazalIt conatins the references bomberman , not the verses themselves07:29
Kilosmazal, also a couple at a time would be better to do so you can explain each one07:30
mazalKilos I want het to have it with her , so when she has question re a specific thing then she can easily go check it up07:30
mazalI am not always around to help07:30
Kilosah07:30
mazalAnd I made a quick check on google translate for the only 20 rows at a time plan. But it can't translate Bible book names correctly :-(07:32
Kilos End-of-central-directory signature not found07:33
mazalHuh ?07:33
Kilosit wont unzip here07:33
mazalCan I dcc it to you ?07:33
Kilosya07:34
bombermanyes, that's what I was afraid of mazal. 07:34
mazalbomberman, is a tricky one this. I might have to find someone strong enough in English who would be willing to do it manually07:35
Kiloswhew07:37
bombermanI can see. I got the file. Its a reference list. Google translate really wont work :(07:37
mazalDoes it unzip at your side bomberman ?07:37
Kilosthats gonna have to be done manually07:38
bombermanyes, worked on my side mazal 07:38
mazalKilos, fix your unzipper lol07:38
Kiloslol07:39
Kilosbomberman, what zip tool you use?07:39
Kilosoh you on win07:40
mazalShouldn't be relevant. It was zipped in Ubuntu07:40
Kilosaw wassup my ubuntu07:40
bombermanzip is zip. lol. Maybe your download didnt work Kilos and you ended up with a corrupted file.07:41
Kilosit says it can be opened with winzip for windows and mac07:41
Kilosyeah maybe07:42
Kilosill try again07:42
Kiloseish now it wants me to authorise and type in that funny thing i cant even read07:43
Kilosgrrr07:43
Kilosdcc worked so i leave that mediafire thing07:46
bombermanmazal. Create a new column in the sheet and call it English, then only copy 50 rows from the first column into Google Translate. Then copy the result in the new English column. It looks pretty well the translation. Dont include the book names in the Google Translate07:46
mazalKilos you broke my mediafire ? lol07:47
Kilosoops sorry07:47
mazalBooknames part will have to be manual I think bomberman 07:47
Kilosi told it skip the captcha goed07:47
Kilosthen it hung07:48
mazalIt thinks your a bot07:48
Kilosuse ubuntuone or dropbox or even mailbigfile for stuff07:49
Kilosbut not now07:49
Kilosmailbigfilewprks well07:49
Kilosworks well07:49
mazalI never have problems with mediafire07:49
mazalYou are the first one07:49
Kilosim always the first with any prob07:50
mazalfilegooi.co.za is another option if you don't want to share many files07:51
Kilosmy pc dont like win stuff unless it is with remmina so i got control07:51
bombermanmazal for the book names you can do find-> replace, eg find Markus -> replace with Mark. Of course in the right column only :)07:52
mazalBrilliant idea bomberman , didn't even think of that :-)07:52
ThatGraemeGuymornings07:52
mazalWork calls , have to run for now07:53
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy you missed last nights meet07:53
mazall8tr guys07:53
Kiloshi trender 07:53
bombermanbye mazal 07:53
trenderyo07:53
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: you should know by now i'm not around in the evenings ;-p07:54
Kilosya but that dont mean i cant nag till you attend meets 1 hour a month07:55
bombermanThatGraemeGuy: meeting moved to 4th Mondays @ 8pm07:56
Kilosyou been online before in the evening so one can hope07:56
ThatGraemeGuythat's when something breaks at work07:57
Kiloshaha07:57
ThatGraemeGuywhich is hardly ever :-p07:57
bombermanYou must make things so they break at 9am only :)07:57
ThatGraemeGuyi prefer them not to break at all, so things are built to tolerate failure07:58
ThatGraemeGuyits rare when i need to poke things after hours07:59
bombermanOn Error Resume Next -> silent fail ;)08:00
Kiloshi not_found 08:18
charlgood morning09:08
charlhi Kilos 09:08
charlMaaz: coffee on09:08
* Maaz flips the salt-timer09:08
Kiloshi charl 09:08
KilosMaaz, coffee on09:08
MaazKilos: There's already a pot on. If you ask nicely, maybe you can have a cup09:08
Kilosai!09:08
KilosMaaz, coffee please09:08
MaazKilos: Righto09:08
charlhow's it going Kilos 09:09
Kilosnot bad ty and you charl ?09:09
charlgood good09:10
charlhot at the moment09:10
Kilosyou missed last nights meeting09:10
charlah sorry, you're right09:10
Kiloshot is lekker it be cold here09:10
charli got busy yesterday evening09:10
Kiloshi Xethron 09:11
MaazCoffee's ready for charl and Kilos!09:12
charlMaaz: thanks !09:12
Maazcharl: Okay :-)09:12
Xethronheya Kilos and Maaz :)09:13
charlhi Xethron 09:14
Xethronheya charl 09:14
XethronMaaz: Coffee for me to please?09:14
MaazXethron: *blink*09:14
charlXethron: you first have to say "coffee on"09:15
Xethron!coffee09:15
Xethronah09:15
Xethroncoffee on09:15
charlwith maaz in front of it09:15
Xethronoh09:15
Xethronlol09:15
XethronMaaz: coffee on09:15
* Maaz puts the kettle on09:15
charl:)09:15
superflyXethron: Maaz only responds when you talk to him09:15
Xethronheya superfly 09:16
charlit's the law in this channel09:16
XethronThis channel is active today09:16
charlthis channel is pretty active09:16
XethronMaaz: I'm always talking to you! OK?09:16
MaazXethron: Sorry...09:16
XethronMaaz: You better be!09:16
MaazXethron: What?09:16
XethronMaaz: Sorry09:16
MaazDon't be sorry Xethron Be careful.09:16
charlMaaz is not too bright :)09:16
XethronMaaz: No you be sorry!09:16
MaazXethron: Sorry...09:16
Xethronlol09:16
charli see mint 15 xfce has been released, trying it now09:19
MaazCoffee's ready for Xethron!09:19
KilosMaaz, danke09:20
MaazBitteschön09:20
XethronYeah, I want to update to 1509:20
Xethronthanks Maaz :)09:20
Kiloscharl, have you tried the google OS09:21
charlKilos: chrome os? not yet09:25
charlfrom what i understand it's basically just a browser09:25
Kilosim just looking for a way to use some night surfer data without wasting it09:25
charli need at minimum a terminal because half of what i do (if not more) is at the terminal09:25
Kilosaw is it so raw09:26
Kilosmôre inetpro 09:29
mazalKilos that makes me think , can't you schedule your updates for after 12:00 ?09:54
mazalI'm sure a little script and entry in crontab should do the trick09:54
Kilosya but im uptodate here mazal 09:57
Kiloscan also use the at command if i wanna go to bed09:57
Kiloswas just thinking to maybe use the night data on another OS to play with10:00
Kilosbut chrome os dont look to useful to me10:00
Kilosi wish theyd stop this data expiring after next calender month10:02
Kilosits just thievery10:02
Kilosswines10:02
Kiloshi magespawn 11:06
Kilosoh11:06
charlhi magespawn 11:32
magespawnhi Kilos11:34
magespawnpower failure11:34
Kilosyou show away lad11:35
Kiloseish11:35
mazalYou guys seen this: http://my-ubuntu-day.blogspot.com/2013/07/hello-from-ubuntu-za-to-ubuntu-fr.html11:39
mazalAnd for magespawn , you seen this: http://www.jorgecastro.org/2013/07/09/quick-and-easy-vpn-with-ubuntu/11:40
magespawnty mazal11:40
Kiloswhy does he thank us?11:43
Kilosdid i miss something11:43
charlmazal: that post about the ubuntu hour in paris is extremely vague11:43
magespawni was away earlier11:43
mazalIndeed charl 11:43
magespawnfor the link Kilos11:43
Kilosya that yooke11:44
charlwho was there, what was discussed, what came out of it11:44
charlsays nothing11:44
charland there are very few french speakers in southern africa11:44
charlthat's mostly west africa11:44
Kilosthey had one thats whats important11:44
charlnot so sure Kilos 11:45
Kilosmaybe the lad is a noob11:45
charlit looks like a "for the lols" thing which isn't necessarily bad but the post is just vague11:45
charlif it's just about meeting people from other locos that's fine, then just say it11:46
Kiloshe might be a begiiner in linux and to blogging11:46
charlpossibly11:46
Kilosbeginner11:46
Kilosread what his other posts say11:46
Kiloslotsa pics waste data11:46
charlthere is very little said about anything11:47
charljust photos indeed11:47
Kiloslol11:47
Kilosgive him tips11:48
magespawni see the post is by maiatoday but maybe the orginal was in french or written by a franch person11:48
Kiloswhere you see maia11:49
charloh at the bottom11:49
charl"posted by"11:49
Kilosoh ya11:49
Kilosactually talking about maia , she has been scarce for a long time now11:57
charlyes i have seen her a long time ago12:21
Kilosmaybe tumbleweed knows12:29
Kilosi think they at the same place12:29
mazalHave a nice evening all12:44
mazalBye12:44
Kiloshmm... when im reading i miss the new peeps13:07
Kilospoor pc has a big name13:08
Kiloshttp://mybroadband.co.za/news/broadcasting/81857-tv-license-fee-increase.html14:04
Kiloson that page on the right they advertise free satelite internet for mobiles methinks14:05
Kiloshttp://www.yahclick.co.za\14:17
Kiloshehe free installation14:17
magespawnonly on the business packages Kilos14:57
magespawnlater all home time14:57
Kiloslater magespawn 14:57
inetproKilos: talking about maia...15:36
inetprosee: Hello from ubuntu-za to ubuntu-fr  http://my-ubuntu-day.blogspot.com/2013/07/hello-from-ubuntu-za-to-ubuntu-fr.html15:36
Kilosok15:37
inetproas found in "Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 325"15:37
Kilosi already saw thatman15:38
Kiloshi psychicist 15:38
psychicisthi Kilos 15:38
inetproKilos: ok15:38
Kiloshehe ek sukkel darem party keer15:39
Cantidehello everyone '-'/15:52
Kiloshi Cantide 15:52
charlhi Cantide 16:31
Cantideubuntu-on-air soon16:31
Cantideif anyone is interested16:32
Cantidejoin #ubuntu-on-air and open ubuntuonair.com16:32
charlwhat are they talking about16:32
Cantidebut it will only start in 30 minutes16:32
Cantidei think it's a general update - mir / unity / juju / whatever16:32
Cantidea speaker from each team16:32
charlok16:32
Cantideand you can ask questions in the irc channel16:32
Cantidei think jono is the MC16:32
Cantidehi Kilos, charl :p16:32
Cantideit's interesting to watch, if you have the bandwidth to do so16:34
Cantideand it makes you feel a lot closer to Ubuntu :p16:34
Cantidebrb16:34
Kilosyo JoTraGo 16:38
Kilosyay got a mail from maia16:52
KilosI am in Europe at the moment. So data isn't so easy. I saw the Ubuntu France guys for an Ubuntu Hour. I'll pop into irc again when I am back. 16:53
Kilosinetpro, ^^16:55
inetproKilos: ja and?16:56
Kiloswell we were wondering where she was man16:57
Kilosyou peeps that just go away without telling us16:57
inetproKilos: she wrote that in the article I linked above16:57
inetproI mean the fact that she's in Europe at least16:58
inetpro"Thanks YoBoy for organising an impromptu ubuntu hour in Paris."16:58
Kilosya man but that didnt click in head that she was also there17:06
Kilosyou know i listen but dont hear or read but dont understand half of it17:06
inetpro:-)17:06
inetprohehe ek sukkel darem party keer17:06
Kiloslol17:07
Kiloshi timminscomputer 17:17
timminscomputerhi Kilos17:17
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za17:17
timminscomputeris there a meeting tonight?17:17
Kiloslast night17:17
timminscomputerthanks for the welcome17:18
timminscomputeroops17:18
Kiloshehe another one next month17:18
Kilosbut you can hang here everyday and see what goes17:18
timminscomputerim connecting via smartphone, bit up and down screenish17:19
Kilosnp17:19
timminscomputerok, id like that17:19
timminscomputerill just be off screen for a while. back soon.17:21
Kilosok17:21
Kiloswb who_da_fly 17:26
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Kilosuh oh17:36
Kiloslo nuvolari 17:39
timminscomputeris there an course or exam to get you to know most of the ubuntu basics, so that supporting ubuntj is eazier?17:50
Kilosthis is the ubuntu south africa help channel so once you install you come here if you get stuck17:51
Kilosalso there is a book somewhere on the basics17:52
Kiloshere is a guide17:52
Kiloshttp://ubuntu-za.org/news/2012/06/21/unity-orientation-guide-ubuntu-1204-lts17:52
timminscomputerok, great. i visited with a red had certjfied man this weekend, and he was great in sharing his knowledge too17:53
timminscomputerpity hes on his way to cape town17:53
Kiloswhere are you?17:53
timminscomputerhe set up pfsence for a friend, great firewall17:54
timminscomputerim in Bloemfontein17:54
Kilosubuntu comes with built in firewall17:54
Kilosbut any probs you have you can ask here17:55
timminscomputerid rather use ubuntu. id like to set up a transparent proxy, then monitor real time web users17:56
Kilosnot only ubuntu users here17:56
Kilosyou were here earlier today, was that from pc?17:56
timminscomputeryes17:57
Kilosi was away from pc so missed you sorry17:57
timminscomputeri am just glad to get to chat. 17:57
Kiloshehe17:58
Kiloswhat do you do?17:58
timminscomputeri own my own computer support and sales company, Timmins Computer Services17:59
Kiloscool and you havent come to ubuntu yet17:59
Kilosshame on you17:59
timminscomputeri belong to the Bloemfontein Linux Users Group18:00
timminscomputersorry18:00
Kilosevery now and again there is someone looking for where to buy pcs with ubuntu as the default os18:00
Kiloswhat are they called blug?18:00
Kiloshehe18:00
timminscomputeryes, id do that for them18:00
Kilospeeps dont like paying for a windows pc then wiping windows as the first move18:01
timminscomputerif you go to SpiceWare.co.za, i think there is a link from there18:01
timminscomputeri sell bla k boxes too18:02
timminscomputerjust stay away from brands like hp, acer, etc18:02
Kiloswas that blank or black18:02
timminscomputerpun.18:03
Kiloslol18:03
timminscomputerblack boxes18:03
Kiloswell when you get to the shop tomorrow come here and ill give you the link for the ubuntu iso download18:04
timminscomputeri purchased a ubuntu book for my kobo ereader, ubuntu unleashed18:04
timminscomputeri must just read it now18:04
Kilosonce youve tried ubuntu you wont want to use windows much anymore18:05
Kilosvirus free18:05
timminscomputerdo you run ubuntu server and desktop versions?18:05
timminscomputeror just server18:06
Kiloshave run server but now playing around, but always have a buntu desktop running18:06
Kilosubuntu desktop works well18:07
timminscomputersuppose this chat is not possible on server edition?18:07
Kilosim not sure if there is a text based client that works on a server18:07
Kilosinetpro, help18:07
timminscomputerpause: i must just veg my children go bed.. be back later18:08
Kilosk18:08
timminscomputertbanks18:08
Kilosyw18:09
ThatGraemeGuyaloha18:31
theblazehenhi18:32
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy theblazehen 18:33
Kilossomething broken at work ThatGraemeGuy 18:33
Kilos?18:33
ThatGraemeGuynot exactly18:34
Kiloshehe18:34
Kiloswelcome anyway18:34
ThatGraemeGuyhave some glusterfs upgrades to do and some other work on an O/S i dare not mention here :P18:34
Kiloslol18:35
Kiloscall it sucks18:35
ThatGraemeGuynah18:35
ThatGraemeGuyi'll leave that to those who don't understand how to admin it :P18:35
Kiloslol 18:36
Kilosi think everyone here has to use it some or other time18:36
ThatGraemeGuyyeah i work on whatever needs working on18:37
Kilosyou can maybe guide timminscomputer better than me18:37
Kilosoh you dont see logs?18:38
Kiloshi Squirm 18:45
Squirmlo Kilos 18:46
SquirmIt seems my Dedi has disappeared18:47
Kilosyour what?18:47
SquirmDedicated Server18:47
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: guide what now? :-/18:48
Kiloswe have a guy with a pc shop wanting to know about ubuntu18:49
ThatGraemeGuyuh... ok18:49
ThatGraemeGuyknow what exactly? :)18:49
Kilosone of the bloemlug guys18:49
ThatGraemeGuythey can't have ubuntu, they don't even have electricity yet18:50
Kilosoh can you get here from a ubuntu server18:50
ThatGraemeGuy;-p18:50
Kilosrofl18:50
ThatGraemeGuy"here" meaning on irc?18:50
Kilosya18:50
ThatGraemeGuyyes of course18:50
ThatGraemeGuyinstall irssi18:50
Kilosaw no one told me how18:51
Kilosi couldnt even work that from here18:51
ThatGraemeGuysudo apt-get install irssi18:51
ThatGraemeGuyhttp://www.irssi.org/documentation18:51
ThatGraemeGuypretty straightforward18:51
ThatGraemeGuyuse /connect irc.example.com18:51
ThatGraemeGuyand /join #channel18:51
ThatGraemeGuyetc18:51
Kilosi dont think he realises how cool ubuntu actually is18:52
ThatGraemeGuyits how we did it in the 90s :)18:52
Kiloswow18:52
Kilosi didnt even have a pc that far back18:53
Kilosyou old hey18:53
Kilos;-P18:53
Kilosoh wrong p18:53
ThatGraemeGuyis 36 old? :-O18:55
Kiloshehe18:55
Kilossame age as my son18:55
ThatGraemeGuyha and you call ME old? :-p18:56
Kilosoops18:56
ThatGraemeGuyok let me get this upgrade done quickly18:56
Kilosok ty18:56
timminscomputerthanks for the help18:57
Kiloswb timminscomputer 18:57
timminscomputerthanks18:57
timminscomputerill try the info given. ill maybe dual ubuntu my laptop, half server, half desktop18:58
Kiloswehy half server?18:59
timminscomputer128 GB should be enough18:59
Kilosyeah18:59
Kilosi have a fully working desktop on a 6g drive18:59
timminscomputerbecause ill boot into ubuntu server, or ill boot into ubuntu desktop19:00
timminscomputeri need to try getting away from gui, sometimes19:01
Kiloshehe19:01
timminscomputeranyway, i greet you all19:01
Squirmtimminscomputer: VM works as well19:01
Kiloscool shout if you need help19:01
timminscomputermy wife is back from some training shes attending19:02
Squirmand I am using Linux Mint MATE, fully graphical. But I try and do what I need to on the cli19:02
timminscomputerlinux mint mate, ill try it19:02
timminscomputeri appreciate the input19:03
Kilosyw19:03
timminscomputershalo19:03
timminscomputershalom19:03
* Squirm shrugs19:06
Squirmthat was an easy convert19:06
Kilosyeah19:07
Squirmwas about to explain what mint was :P19:07
Kiloshehe19:09
Kiloshe asked if there is a course and exam to learn ubuntu19:10
Kilosshame19:10
Squirmthere is19:10
Kiloshey?19:10
Kilosall you need to know is how to download the iso and install19:10
Squirmleast it was19:13
Squirmyou could do it with the LPI exams19:13
Kilosto learn ubuntu?19:13
Squirmmaybe they've stopped it19:13
Squirmmaybe not learn Ubuntu basics, probably the server side of things19:14
Kilostheres lotsa stuff online19:14
Squirmbut you actually got a cert19:14
Kilosand the ubuntu-za help channel of course19:14
Kiloshe has a pc shop19:15
Squirmok19:16
Kilosnight guys . sleep tight19:17
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