=== Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za === space_ is now known as Space === space_ is now known as Space [06:22] morning superfly magespawn and others [06:23] hi psyatw [06:28] morning Kilos! [06:29] hi bomberman nice to see you here [06:29] inetpro, superfly, Kilos website events updated with new dates [06:29] Yeah Kilos, been a while :| [06:30] bad man [06:31] site link bomberman ? [06:32] hi Kilos [06:32] hi bomberman! [06:33] Kilos: http://ubuntu-za.org/ look on the left [06:33] ty [06:36] is that the same one that opened slow last night [06:36] was quick here now [06:38] ty for updating all the meeting dates [06:40] bomberman, are you related to megaman? [06:51] psyatw: no, he's the original bomerman [06:51] (is everyone here so young they don't get that reference??!!) [06:51] hi Vince-0 [06:52] im too old to get it [06:52] haai [06:58] hi superfly [06:58] hi Vince-0 [06:59] surp === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [07:02] Morning everyone [07:05] good evening [07:07] Evening ? [07:07] ask Kilos [07:07] hehe ok [07:08] Oom Kilos , wat gaan aan ? [07:09] Does anybody know how I could translate an entire Libre Office calc (.xls) sheet ? [07:09] translate? nope [07:10] Wouldn't be a valid question for Askubuntu he? Cos it's not Ubuntu related ? [07:11] translate the language? [07:11] hi mazal tonberry352_ [07:12] hehe [07:12] hi [07:13] mazal, libreoffice is ubuntu related [07:13] Ok , gonna try and hope to not get scolded [07:13] best place to ask funny questions like that is google [07:13] Google don't know [07:13] then last resort ask here [07:13] Not yet anyway , checked through first few pages of results [07:13] hmm... [07:14] hi psyatw, not related to megaman. sorry. [07:14] what do you want to convert it to? [07:14] tonberry352_, yes , translate from Afr to Eng [07:15] how many rows to translate mazal? [07:15] If it is just text, convert to csv and find something that can translate plain text files. [07:15] lemme check [07:15] no translaters do a good job [07:15] No idea how to do it if it has formulas. [07:15] pay someone... [07:16] 1121 rows , 2 columns [07:16] Just txt [07:16] is it a secret document [07:17] No it's a scriptures sheet [07:17] did you try Google translate? it doesnt seems long. I would create an English column then copy 50-100 rows at a time into Google Translate [07:17] It's what I build up over the past 2 years , now one of my friends needs this truths desperately , but she is english [07:18] you speak good english [07:18] But I want her to have the whole document. There is too much food in there to go through quickly. Will take her time [07:19] bomberman, google translate just went bonkers on me. Froze up completely [07:19] mazal try to paste 20 rown into Google Translate. [07:20] I think I should try that [07:20] you could put it in a html document and upload it to the internet. She can look at it with Chrome which will offer do translate the whole doc automatically. [07:20] hmm [07:20] Whatever I find that works must be easy repeatable. It updates almost daily [07:21] But where would I put the html doc ? [07:22] you could put it in dropbox and share the link. [07:23] and you have a ubuntuone account [07:23] are these scriptures from the Bible? You could give her the book and the verse references. [07:25] Software Freedom Day start guide -> http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/StartGuide [07:26] bomberman, yes [07:27] Over 1100 sections with multiple scriptures for each [07:27] whew [07:27] So I want her to have the doc in English. Is too many too give one by one [07:28] mazal I dont think a translation engine would be the best to translate biblical verses. It is geared more towards general every day language. [07:29] Oom Kilos > http://www.mediafire.com/download/97e7rmbu7uh0k8y/Spreek_Heer_ek_luister.zip [07:29] It conatins the references bomberman , not the verses themselves [07:30] mazal, also a couple at a time would be better to do so you can explain each one [07:30] Kilos I want het to have it with her , so when she has question re a specific thing then she can easily go check it up [07:30] I am not always around to help [07:30] ah [07:32] And I made a quick check on google translate for the only 20 rows at a time plan. But it can't translate Bible book names correctly :-( [07:33] End-of-central-directory signature not found [07:33] Huh ? [07:33] it wont unzip here [07:33] Can I dcc it to you ? [07:34] ya [07:34] yes, that's what I was afraid of mazal. [07:35] bomberman, is a tricky one this. I might have to find someone strong enough in English who would be willing to do it manually [07:37] whew [07:37] I can see. I got the file. Its a reference list. Google translate really wont work :( [07:37] Does it unzip at your side bomberman ? [07:38] thats gonna have to be done manually [07:38] yes, worked on my side mazal [07:38] Kilos, fix your unzipper lol [07:39] lol [07:39] bomberman, what zip tool you use? [07:40] oh you on win [07:40] Shouldn't be relevant. It was zipped in Ubuntu [07:40] aw wassup my ubuntu [07:41] zip is zip. lol. Maybe your download didnt work Kilos and you ended up with a corrupted file. [07:41] it says it can be opened with winzip for windows and mac [07:42] yeah maybe [07:42] ill try again [07:43] eish now it wants me to authorise and type in that funny thing i cant even read [07:43] grrr [07:46] dcc worked so i leave that mediafire thing [07:46] mazal. Create a new column in the sheet and call it English, then only copy 50 rows from the first column into Google Translate. Then copy the result in the new English column. It looks pretty well the translation. Dont include the book names in the Google Translate [07:47] Kilos you broke my mediafire ? lol [07:47] oops sorry [07:47] Booknames part will have to be manual I think bomberman [07:47] i told it skip the captcha goed [07:48] then it hung [07:48] It thinks your a bot [07:49] use ubuntuone or dropbox or even mailbigfile for stuff [07:49] but not now [07:49] mailbigfilewprks well [07:49] works well [07:49] I never have problems with mediafire [07:49] You are the first one [07:50] im always the first with any prob [07:51] filegooi.co.za is another option if you don't want to share many files [07:51] my pc dont like win stuff unless it is with remmina so i got control [07:52] mazal for the book names you can do find-> replace, eg find Markus -> replace with Mark. Of course in the right column only :) [07:52] Brilliant idea bomberman , didn't even think of that :-) [07:52] mornings [07:53] Work calls , have to run for now [07:53] hi ThatGraemeGuy you missed last nights meet [07:53] l8tr guys [07:53] hi trender [07:53] bye mazal [07:53] yo [07:54] Kilos: you should know by now i'm not around in the evenings ;-p [07:55] ya but that dont mean i cant nag till you attend meets 1 hour a month [07:56] ThatGraemeGuy: meeting moved to 4th Mondays @ 8pm [07:56] you been online before in the evening so one can hope [07:57] that's when something breaks at work [07:57] haha [07:57] which is hardly ever :-p [07:57] You must make things so they break at 9am only :) [07:58] i prefer them not to break at all, so things are built to tolerate failure [07:59] its rare when i need to poke things after hours [08:00] On Error Resume Next -> silent fail ;) [08:18] hi not_found [09:08] good morning [09:08] hi Kilos [09:08] Maaz: coffee on [09:08] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [09:08] hi charl [09:08] Maaz, coffee on [09:08] Kilos: There's already a pot on. If you ask nicely, maybe you can have a cup [09:08] ai! [09:08] Maaz, coffee please [09:08] Kilos: Righto [09:09] how's it going Kilos [09:09] not bad ty and you charl ? [09:10] good good [09:10] hot at the moment [09:10] you missed last nights meeting [09:10] ah sorry, you're right [09:10] hot is lekker it be cold here [09:10] i got busy yesterday evening [09:11] hi Xethron [09:12] Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos! [09:12] Maaz: thanks ! [09:12] charl: Okay :-) [09:13] heya Kilos and Maaz :) [09:14] hi Xethron [09:14] heya charl [09:14] Maaz: Coffee for me to please? [09:14] Xethron: *blink* [09:15] Xethron: you first have to say "coffee on" [09:15] !coffee [09:15] ah [09:15] coffee on [09:15] with maaz in front of it [09:15] oh [09:15] lol [09:15] Maaz: coffee on [09:15] * Maaz puts the kettle on [09:15] :) [09:15] Xethron: Maaz only responds when you talk to him [09:16] heya superfly [09:16] it's the law in this channel [09:16] This channel is active today [09:16] this channel is pretty active [09:16] Maaz: I'm always talking to you! OK? [09:16] Xethron: Sorry... [09:16] Maaz: You better be! [09:16] Xethron: What? [09:16] Maaz: Sorry [09:16] Don't be sorry Xethron Be careful. [09:16] Maaz is not too bright :) [09:16] Maaz: No you be sorry! [09:16] Xethron: Sorry... [09:16] lol [09:19] i see mint 15 xfce has been released, trying it now [09:19] Coffee's ready for Xethron! [09:20] Maaz, danke [09:20] Bitteschön [09:20] Yeah, I want to update to 15 [09:20] thanks Maaz :) [09:21] charl, have you tried the google OS [09:25] Kilos: chrome os? not yet [09:25] from what i understand it's basically just a browser [09:25] im just looking for a way to use some night surfer data without wasting it [09:25] i need at minimum a terminal because half of what i do (if not more) is at the terminal [09:26] aw is it so raw [09:29] môre inetpro [09:54] Kilos that makes me think , can't you schedule your updates for after 12:00 ? [09:54] I'm sure a little script and entry in crontab should do the trick [09:57] ya but im uptodate here mazal [09:57] can also use the at command if i wanna go to bed [10:00] was just thinking to maybe use the night data on another OS to play with [10:00] but chrome os dont look to useful to me [10:02] i wish theyd stop this data expiring after next calender month [10:02] its just thievery [10:02] swines [11:06] hi magespawn [11:06] oh [11:32] hi magespawn [11:34] hi Kilos [11:34] power failure [11:35] you show away lad [11:35] eish [11:39] You guys seen this: http://my-ubuntu-day.blogspot.com/2013/07/hello-from-ubuntu-za-to-ubuntu-fr.html [11:40] And for magespawn , you seen this: http://www.jorgecastro.org/2013/07/09/quick-and-easy-vpn-with-ubuntu/ [11:40] ty mazal [11:43] why does he thank us? [11:43] did i miss something [11:43] mazal: that post about the ubuntu hour in paris is extremely vague [11:43] i was away earlier [11:43] Indeed charl [11:43] for the link Kilos [11:44] ya that yooke [11:44] who was there, what was discussed, what came out of it [11:44] says nothing [11:44] and there are very few french speakers in southern africa [11:44] that's mostly west africa [11:44] they had one thats whats important [11:45] not so sure Kilos [11:45] maybe the lad is a noob [11:45] it looks like a "for the lols" thing which isn't necessarily bad but the post is just vague [11:46] if it's just about meeting people from other locos that's fine, then just say it [11:46] he might be a begiiner in linux and to blogging [11:46] possibly [11:46] beginner [11:46] read what his other posts say [11:46] lotsa pics waste data [11:47] there is very little said about anything [11:47] just photos indeed [11:47] lol [11:48] give him tips [11:48] i see the post is by maiatoday but maybe the orginal was in french or written by a franch person [11:49] where you see maia [11:49] oh at the bottom [11:49] "posted by" [11:49] oh ya [11:57] actually talking about maia , she has been scarce for a long time now [12:21] yes i have seen her a long time ago [12:29] maybe tumbleweed knows [12:29] i think they at the same place [12:44] Have a nice evening all [12:44] Bye [13:07] hmm... when im reading i miss the new peeps [13:08] poor pc has a big name [14:04] http://mybroadband.co.za/news/broadcasting/81857-tv-license-fee-increase.html [14:05] on that page on the right they advertise free satelite internet for mobiles methinks [14:17] http://www.yahclick.co.za\ [14:17] hehe free installation [14:57] only on the business packages Kilos [14:57] later all home time [14:57] later magespawn [15:36] Kilos: talking about maia... [15:36] see: Hello from ubuntu-za to ubuntu-fr http://my-ubuntu-day.blogspot.com/2013/07/hello-from-ubuntu-za-to-ubuntu-fr.html [15:37] ok [15:37] as found in "Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 325" [15:38] i already saw thatman [15:38] hi psychicist [15:38] hi Kilos [15:38] Kilos: ok [15:39] hehe ek sukkel darem party keer [15:52] hello everyone '-'/ [15:52] hi Cantide [16:31] hi Cantide [16:31] ubuntu-on-air soon [16:32] if anyone is interested [16:32] join #ubuntu-on-air and open ubuntuonair.com [16:32] what are they talking about [16:32] but it will only start in 30 minutes [16:32] i think it's a general update - mir / unity / juju / whatever [16:32] a speaker from each team [16:32] ok [16:32] and you can ask questions in the irc channel [16:32] i think jono is the MC [16:32] hi Kilos, charl :p [16:34] it's interesting to watch, if you have the bandwidth to do so [16:34] and it makes you feel a lot closer to Ubuntu :p [16:34] brb [16:38] yo JoTraGo [16:52] yay got a mail from maia [16:53] I am in Europe at the moment. So data isn't so easy. I saw the Ubuntu France guys for an Ubuntu Hour. I'll pop into irc again when I am back. [16:55] inetpro, ^^ [16:56] Kilos: ja and? [16:57] well we were wondering where she was man [16:57] you peeps that just go away without telling us [16:57] Kilos: she wrote that in the article I linked above [16:58] I mean the fact that she's in Europe at least [16:58] "Thanks YoBoy for organising an impromptu ubuntu hour in Paris." [17:06] ya man but that didnt click in head that she was also there [17:06] you know i listen but dont hear or read but dont understand half of it [17:06] :-) [17:06] hehe ek sukkel darem party keer [17:07] lol [17:17] hi timminscomputer [17:17] hi Kilos [17:17] welcome to ubuntu-za [17:17] is there a meeting tonight? [17:17] last night [17:18] thanks for the welcome [17:18] oops [17:18] hehe another one next month [17:18] but you can hang here everyday and see what goes [17:19] im connecting via smartphone, bit up and down screenish [17:19] np [17:19] ok, id like that [17:21] ill just be off screen for a while. back soon. [17:21] ok [17:26] wb who_da_fly === who_da_fly is now known as superfly [17:36] uh oh [17:39] lo nuvolari [17:50] is there an course or exam to get you to know most of the ubuntu basics, so that supporting ubuntj is eazier? [17:51] this is the ubuntu south africa help channel so once you install you come here if you get stuck [17:52] also there is a book somewhere on the basics [17:52] here is a guide [17:52] http://ubuntu-za.org/news/2012/06/21/unity-orientation-guide-ubuntu-1204-lts [17:53] ok, great. i visited with a red had certjfied man this weekend, and he was great in sharing his knowledge too [17:53] pity hes on his way to cape town [17:53] where are you? [17:54] he set up pfsence for a friend, great firewall [17:54] im in Bloemfontein [17:54] ubuntu comes with built in firewall [17:55] but any probs you have you can ask here [17:56] id rather use ubuntu. id like to set up a transparent proxy, then monitor real time web users [17:56] not only ubuntu users here [17:56] you were here earlier today, was that from pc? [17:57] yes [17:57] i was away from pc so missed you sorry [17:57] i am just glad to get to chat. [17:58] hehe [17:58] what do you do? [17:59] i own my own computer support and sales company, Timmins Computer Services [17:59] cool and you havent come to ubuntu yet [17:59] shame on you [18:00] i belong to the Bloemfontein Linux Users Group [18:00] sorry [18:00] every now and again there is someone looking for where to buy pcs with ubuntu as the default os [18:00] what are they called blug? [18:00] hehe [18:00] yes, id do that for them [18:01] peeps dont like paying for a windows pc then wiping windows as the first move [18:01] if you go to SpiceWare.co.za, i think there is a link from there [18:02] i sell bla k boxes too [18:02] just stay away from brands like hp, acer, etc [18:02] was that blank or black [18:03] pun. [18:03] lol [18:03] black boxes [18:04] well when you get to the shop tomorrow come here and ill give you the link for the ubuntu iso download [18:04] i purchased a ubuntu book for my kobo ereader, ubuntu unleashed [18:04] i must just read it now [18:05] once youve tried ubuntu you wont want to use windows much anymore [18:05] virus free [18:05] do you run ubuntu server and desktop versions? [18:06] or just server [18:06] have run server but now playing around, but always have a buntu desktop running [18:07] ubuntu desktop works well [18:07] suppose this chat is not possible on server edition? [18:07] im not sure if there is a text based client that works on a server [18:07] inetpro, help [18:08] pause: i must just veg my children go bed.. be back later [18:08] k [18:08] tbanks [18:09] yw [18:31] aloha [18:32] hi [18:33] hi ThatGraemeGuy theblazehen [18:33] something broken at work ThatGraemeGuy [18:33] ? [18:34] not exactly [18:34] hehe [18:34] welcome anyway [18:34] have some glusterfs upgrades to do and some other work on an O/S i dare not mention here :P [18:35] lol [18:35] call it sucks [18:35] nah [18:35] i'll leave that to those who don't understand how to admin it :P [18:36] lol [18:36] i think everyone here has to use it some or other time [18:37] yeah i work on whatever needs working on [18:37] you can maybe guide timminscomputer better than me [18:38] oh you dont see logs? [18:45] hi Squirm [18:46] lo Kilos [18:47] It seems my Dedi has disappeared [18:47] your what? [18:47] Dedicated Server [18:48] Kilos: guide what now? :-/ [18:49] we have a guy with a pc shop wanting to know about ubuntu [18:49] uh... ok [18:49] know what exactly? :) [18:49] one of the bloemlug guys [18:50] they can't have ubuntu, they don't even have electricity yet [18:50] oh can you get here from a ubuntu server [18:50] ;-p [18:50] rofl [18:50] "here" meaning on irc? [18:50] ya [18:50] yes of course [18:50] install irssi [18:51] aw no one told me how [18:51] i couldnt even work that from here [18:51] sudo apt-get install irssi [18:51] http://www.irssi.org/documentation [18:51] pretty straightforward [18:51] use /connect irc.example.com [18:51] and /join #channel [18:51] etc [18:52] i dont think he realises how cool ubuntu actually is [18:52] its how we did it in the 90s :) [18:52] wow [18:53] i didnt even have a pc that far back [18:53] you old hey [18:53] ;-P [18:53] oh wrong p [18:55] is 36 old? :-O [18:55] hehe [18:55] same age as my son [18:56] ha and you call ME old? :-p [18:56] oops [18:56] ok let me get this upgrade done quickly [18:56] ok ty [18:57] thanks for the help [18:57] wb timminscomputer [18:57] thanks [18:58] ill try the info given. ill maybe dual ubuntu my laptop, half server, half desktop [18:59] wehy half server? [18:59] 128 GB should be enough [18:59] yeah [18:59] i have a fully working desktop on a 6g drive [19:00] because ill boot into ubuntu server, or ill boot into ubuntu desktop [19:01] i need to try getting away from gui, sometimes [19:01] hehe [19:01] anyway, i greet you all [19:01] timminscomputer: VM works as well [19:01] cool shout if you need help [19:02] my wife is back from some training shes attending [19:02] and I am using Linux Mint MATE, fully graphical. But I try and do what I need to on the cli [19:02] linux mint mate, ill try it [19:03] i appreciate the input [19:03] yw [19:03] shalo [19:03] shalom [19:06] * Squirm shrugs [19:06] that was an easy convert [19:07] yeah [19:07] was about to explain what mint was :P [19:09] hehe [19:10] he asked if there is a course and exam to learn ubuntu [19:10] shame [19:10] there is [19:10] hey? [19:10] all you need to know is how to download the iso and install [19:13] least it was [19:13] you could do it with the LPI exams [19:13] to learn ubuntu? [19:13] maybe they've stopped it [19:14] maybe not learn Ubuntu basics, probably the server side of things [19:14] theres lotsa stuff online [19:14] but you actually got a cert [19:14] and the ubuntu-za help channel of course [19:15] he has a pc shop [19:16] ok [19:17] night guys . sleep tight === Neo31` is now known as Neo31-desktop === Neo31-desktop is now known as A7med === cocooncrash_ is now known as cocooncrash