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saiarcot895Xaos: what's the driver?00:00
holsteinXaos: i need more details to be helpful.. what errors? what package? are you running sudo apt-get update before trying to download?00:00
tomreynXaos: you will need to provide more details, this is much too generic.00:00
tomreynit sounds like using a non-packaged non-ubuntu driver. this can cause havoc, depending on whether or not you know what you're doing.00:01
Linusxaos dmesg will help if you could get the entries from there and paste bin them. Pipe dmesg into tail to as the text log doesent contain all entries. dmesg | tail00:03
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Linusxaos lsmod and lspci | grep ethernet would be useful to00:05
vorlketusing ubuntu 12.04, wanna clone system + data to a new hdd due to disk failure, how do i do it?00:06
saiarcot895vorlket: assuming you can access the old hard drive, dd might be best here00:07
Linusvorlket rsync with md5 checksum rather than time/date stamp. Thats what I usually use Dont know any UIs for them though usually run via bash, pascal, or python that Ive wrote.00:07
holsteinclonezilla uses those tools as well, if you are looking for something with a "wizard" type of thing00:08
holsteinvorlket: ^00:08
beandogddrescue > dd00:08
Linusvorlket I could write a ui though, not much verbosity though to much messing with streams.00:09
holstein!dd00:09
holstein!info dd00:09
ubottuPackage dd does not exist in raring00:09
beandog!info gddrescue00:09
ubottugddrescue (source: gddrescue): GNU data recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.16-1 (raring), package size 91 kB, installed size 206 kB00:09
holsteinhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/151127/how-do-i-move-copy-my-entire-ubuntu-system-to-a-different-hard-disk as well00:09
beandogholstein: I think dd is part of coreutils ... mebbe00:09
holsteinbeandog: yeah, im not asking the bot the proper search term...00:10
vorlketi followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087 but it doesn't boot, i.e. can't get through the bios00:11
holsteinvorlket: you can try restoring grub, if the OS is there00:11
holsteinvorlket: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair for example00:11
Linusdd is a last resort though? It copies every block over so is hard to recover from unless its individual files, not just slow.00:12
vorlketok will try it. so far i tried http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd#.UeRqo-JLv3w for restoring grub but no luck00:13
Linusvor1let you need to reinstall grub?00:13
holsteinvorlket: i used clonezilla, and had a functional clone00:14
RalliasIs there any way to statically set the host-side interface name with LXC?00:14
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vorlketok will try. thanks!00:16
RobdfsBoot-Repair seems like a scam to me.  The "Recommended Repair" didn't work.  When I sent a detailed email to boot.repair@gmail.com I got an automated response asking for a "donation".00:18
* beandog donates $1 to /dev/null00:18
holsteinRobdfs: worked for me.. you dont have to use the GUI00:18
Linusrobdfs you trying to reinstall grub completely or just the MBR?00:18
RobdfsI rebooted after update back in June and got "GRUB RESCUE> prompt."00:21
psiloNot ubuntu specific, but if it'snot too busy here, can someone explain what's going on here? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007603&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&cm_sp=HardDrives15-_-VisNav-_-Desktop&CompareItemList=14%7C22-236-380%5E22-236-380-02%23%2C22-148-765%5E22-148-765-TS&percm=22-236-380%3A%24%24%24%2415%24%24%24%3B22-148-765%3A%24%24%24%2415%24%24%2400:21
saiarcot895!ot | psilo00:22
ubottupsilo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!00:22
beandogpsilo: WD Green are pretty low quality.00:22
beandogpsilo: I wouldn't recommend using them if you really care about your data reliability.00:22
RalliasYou're getting an inferior product for $10 more.00:22
Linusrobdfs this physical or virtual?00:23
beandogpsilo: well, maybe not *that* bad ... I actually use one.00:23
Robdfsboot repair restored Windows7 boot, but not Ubuntu.00:23
Robdfsphysical00:23
pragmaticenigma!ot | beandog00:23
ubottubeandog: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!00:23
somsip_a! text00:24
ubottuTo start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode00:24
Linusrobdfs when does the boot fail and if you see an error  whats the error?00:25
RobdfsI got a "GRUB RESCUE> prompt."00:25
Linusrobdfs did you see grub menu or get dumped straight to grub rescue?00:26
Robdfsdumped straight it00:28
holsteinRobdfs: i would remove the GUI that is giving you issues from the equation and do it manually00:29
Linusrobdfs you might not get anything back what does ls show?00:29
BenLubarI want to switch from Fedora to Ubuntu, but my internet connection is pretty slow. I already have everything that needs to be backed up backed up. Is there a minimal installer that doesn't include a livecd?00:30
holstein!mini | BenLubar but, you will need to install things to get a GUI and a "desktop" system00:30
ubottuBenLubar but, you will need to install things to get a GUI and a "desktop" system: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD00:30
RobdfsBoot_rescue put notes in this pastebin:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/572486400:30
BenLubarubottu: thanks. I used a minimal install cd to install debian on my server, so I know how this works.00:31
ubottuBenLubar: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:31
holsteinBenLubar: im not sure you do.. the internet speed will be an issue either before the install, to download the ISO, or after, when you have only the bare minimum00:32
holsteinRobdfs: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#Using_the_Ubuntu_Alternate_CD *not* using hte boot-repair tool00:33
psiloat least with the netinstall you can be picky about what you download00:33
holsteinsure, but its not a way to save bandwidth necessarily, if you want a typical desktop install00:33
LinusWho set that paste bin (I cant remember where) Looks like your MBR is full.00:34
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LinusWhat is the size of MBR it is 514k?00:36
beandog51200:36
beandogdd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 would wipe the MBR00:36
beandogUh, don't run that anyone.00:36
beandogthat isn't following the chat.00:36
Robdfsholstein:  Thanks, I think I can follow those instructions00:37
beandogand make sure you run it on the right hdd device too00:37
beandogbetter yet, just ignore me. :)00:37
LinusI always remeber if and of and what they mean. dd  can be dangerous so never use unless you havent wiped a live server my using misused awk,sed etc00:38
SonikkuAmericabeandog: Umm... yeah. That would erase EVERYTHING.00:38
beandogSonikkuAmerica: no, just the MBR00:39
beandoger00:39
beandogAnd the partition table.00:39
beandogBut the filesystems would still be there.00:39
RobdfsI had a blank partition (for future OSX) between Windows and Ubuntu, so Ubuntu made a "virtual partition" or something.00:39
RobdfsThat may explain why update corrupted my boot loadrer00:40
Linusrobdfs was it you asked about testdisk?00:40
Robdfsno00:40
Linusif  [[ Linus !=10000000]; then; do, echo pwned; done00:41
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beandogLinus: syntax errors :)00:42
Linusyou will see I left a sqaure bracket out too00:42
beandog-ne, no closing ], no comma after do00:42
beandogI think != only works on strings doesn't it?  Gotta do it differently for integers00:43
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Linusit works when you "" enclose it00:43
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checoimgHi everyone, anyone knows good programs for file synchronization ?00:43
beandogrsync00:44
checoimganything else no more options ? just rsync  ?00:45
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beandogthat's the only one I can think of00:45
beandogrsync is pretty powerful.  what features are you looking for?00:45
Linusyou cant beat rsync its the best backup option there is. Getting used is worth it.00:45
checoimgTwo way synchronization00:46
beandogchecoimg: gimme a sample scenario00:47
Linusyou cant beat rsync and what it provides Ive worked for Hosting companies that have sold backup services. None have been better than me writing a bash script00:47
starkillerhello XD00:47
checoimgI have two hard disks with new and old files with same name and I want it to check both files an replace the old one with the new one one way or the other00:48
jribchecoimg: check out unison00:48
beandogLinus: same, man. ^500:48
checoimgI would like a command line version of unison00:48
jribchecoimg: unison...00:48
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starkillerI have xubuntu only on my laptop, i would like to dual boot with win 7 XD00:49
starkillerwhats the proper way to do it XD00:49
checoimgFirst install Windows 700:49
checoimgand then ubuntu00:49
checoimgbecause Windows 7 erases the master boot record00:50
checoimgwhere grub is00:50
checoimgGrub is OS friendly MBR only accepts window's entries00:50
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Linuswindows usually does wipe . If you dual booting install windows first.00:51
checoimgThe problem with unison is that sometimes it saves corrupted directories00:51
checoimgSo I'm lloking for options00:51
checoimgOr maybe I'll have to make my own synchronization program00:52
jribchecoimg: what do you mean that it saves corrupted directories?00:52
starkilleri had win 7 before and the installed xubuntu, and after my win 7 wouldnt boot for some time:P00:52
beandogYou can boot grub from Windows00:52
beandogOr you can boot Windows into GRUB back into Windows00:52
beandogFun stuff.00:52
beandogOr the other way around.00:52
beandogOr even throw syslinux in front of all of it.00:53
beandogI'm probably not helping ...00:53
checoimgThat when you go and try to open it after it was synchronized then the directory doesn't open00:53
mandargI'm unable to install zx2c4 (Jason Donenfeld)'s password-store program via apt-get even though this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/precise-backports/+bug/1063688 says that the package is in the backports00:53
ubottuUbuntu bug 1063688 in Precise Backports "Please backport password-store 1.4-1 (universe) from quantal" [Undecided,Fix released]00:53
starkilleri have done it before with xp, but win 7 its being a *00:54
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checoimggiving and error that says corrupted00:54
starkilleryea XD00:54
Linusif your dual booting a windows desktop always defrag and chkdsk BEFORE.00:55
mandarghm looks like I hadn't enabled the backports rep00:56
mandarg*repo00:56
starkilleri bought a 1 tb harddrive, so i want to get things right before starting to filling it up :P00:57
starkillerso 1)install win 7 in a clean HD, 2) defrag, and check for errors 3) install ubuntu?01:00
tomreynstarkiller: i only read the past two lines you wrote, but this sounds like the right order01:01
tomreynif you want a dual boot setup01:01
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tomreynyou can do the defrag later, doesn't matter01:02
tomreynwhat's important when installing windows is that you make it *not* use the entire disk01:02
tomreynbecause by default it will01:02
beandogtomreyn: probably easier to partition it first01:02
beandoggrab a gparted livecd and divvy that sucker up.01:03
tomreyncan't the windows installer do that?01:03
beandogI ... don't remember .... :T01:03
beandogIt'd take 5 minutes to do gparted, and about an hour to reinstall Windows so ... I wouldn't risk it :)01:03
tomreynneither01:03
afflictoHey. Has anyone had experience with strange characters showing up in code? I'm writng php in sublime text and sometimes these non UTF-8 characters (which are invisible) breaks my code. This never happens on windows. thanks in advance.01:04
saiarcot895tomreyn: it can do part of a disk01:04
tomreynwell, for you beandog :)01:04
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beandogtomreyn: heh ... yah01:04
starkillerwell ill give it a try and see what happens :P01:05
starkillermy hd its clean so nothing to lose :P01:06
wilee-nileestarkiller, Use the manual install with windows, to size it correctly, to avaoid resizing.01:07
wilee-nileeavoid*01:07
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starkillerlol thanks wilee, this is so exiting lol, i m suck a nerd lol01:08
starkillersuch01:08
checoimgafflicto : Yes I had that problem01:08
checoimgafflicto : you have to copy the code until the lines that shows the error and rewrite it01:09
checoimgThat's what I have done01:09
docvellJust curious...anyone have a network printer that uses a Ubuntu and a Windows system?  (sharing the printer)01:10
beandogstarkiller: more like an apprentice nerd ... you've got a ways to go, yet. :)01:10
beandogdocvell: I have a Brother wireless printer that works great01:10
checoimgstarkiller : Do the partition with gparted Windows 7 installer doesn't do partitions AFAIK01:10
docvellwas it easy to set up?01:10
beandogdocvell: iirc it worked out of the box01:11
docvellI am thinking of getting a network laser printer for me and my wife...I use Ubuntu and she uses Windows 701:11
beandogdocvell: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting01:11
beandogcheck that out01:11
docvellthanks :)01:12
beandogactually this is better http://www.openprinting.org/printers01:12
yr0drag0nis the puppy ok??01:12
ShippDhaving problems with 13.10  all my applications have disappeared in unity any suggestions would be great even when i search no apps come up01:12
docvellthanks :)01:13
yr0drag0npuppy linux rocks01:13
beandogdocvell: anyway, there's a lot out there that'd work fine01:13
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jjavaholicubuntu-desktop?01:14
ShippDyes01:14
checoimgShippD : In the meantime you can try Alt+F2 and typing there the name of the program01:14
checoimgShippD : And you should post that on the forums too01:15
docvellI am glad - just would make it easier than moving our printer back and forth all the time (currently just an ink jet but we want to go to a laser printer someday01:15
jjavaholicand/or terminal with ctl + alt + T01:15
beandogdocvell: yah, I dig.  I can give you the exact model # I got if you want01:15
deckard_hello. I am unable to get a video to play on a popular site. Would removing some of the stock software caused this?01:16
ShippDoh from the terminal ok01:16
deckard_evermind, was Ghostery01:17
jjavaholicwhereis <<program name here>>01:17
docvellI don't have the printer yet - there were a few we were looking at (not sure off hand though)01:18
beandogdocvell: I sent you a pm01:18
checoimg:D My printer is there01:19
checoimgBut LIbre Office doesn't print well01:19
jjavaholicto look for app to see if it is there.  If it is I would check for unity-lens-applications01:19
checoimgONly when I print from a PDF01:19
wilee-nilee!13.10 | ShippD01:19
ShippDyes01:19
checoimg!13.10 | checoimg01:20
wilee-nileeShippD, Bots not working, 13.10 is #ubuntu+101:20
ShippDok thanks01:21
ubottuShippD: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+101:21
clientHello01:21
wilee-nileeheh, took the bit 1 minute, lol01:22
clientHow do I install the mp3 plugin for xubuntu? I didn't install it when setting up, but now i'd like to install it01:22
ubottuchecoimg, please see my private message01:22
wilee-nileeclient, Generally the xubuntu-restricted-extras should cover what you need.01:23
clientwhere do I find that?01:23
holsteinclient: any package manager that you want to use.. or try searching fluendo01:23
wilee-nileeclient, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras  in the terminal or in the software center01:23
holstein!mp3 | client01:23
lunclient: $ sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras01:24
clientdoes it only install the mp3 codecs?01:24
wilee-nileeholstein, Its the 2 min bot delay. ;)01:24
wilee-nileewait......wait it may show01:24
holsteinwilee-nilee: i see that... ;)01:25
holstein!codecs01:25
lunclient: i think not only, u should read more info about this package etc. in google01:25
clientlun I learned/learnt that you shouldnt tell new ubuntu users to 'google' something01:26
client!google01:26
holsteinclient: its not a "go google this instead of me helping you" thing.. its a, you might want to read about what all is included in that meta-pacakge01:26
holsteinclient: if you literally just want mp3 support, there is a fluendo package01:27
clientholstein I'm checking in the repository. It includes flash, etc.01:27
OerHekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats01:27
wilee-nileeand ms-fonts01:27
clientit speaks about Java, aren't we suppose to use openJDK instead of Java6 ?01:28
holsteinclient: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP301:28
SonikkuAmericaclient: You can use either. Oracle Java is just now running on top of OpenJDK01:28
wilee-nileeclient, The java7 in the repos is basically the same as the proprietary.01:28
clientOk wait, let me get this straight. Java used to write their own runtime environment before that wasn't 'open source', and then they switched to OpenJDK, which is written by contributors?01:29
holstein!mp301:29
holsteinclient: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java01:30
OerHeksopenJDK is the open source version of the vulnerable oracle binairy blob01:30
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:30
clientI don't get all these license restrictions on Ubuntu. Linux mint never had any...01:31
holsteinclient: mint has the same, just doesnt share the information at install01:31
qin_OerHeks gets cookie.01:31
wilee-nileeclient, Mint is ubuntu in drag, hardly different.01:32
beandoglol01:32
holsteinclient: the licenses are for the products.. not for the operating system.. they exist and the information is independent of the OS you are using, though you may or may not know about the restrictions01:32
clientMint is more like a "Home User" type of OS01:33
_joeywhat's a cool application to send sms over gsm phone connected to it?01:33
_joeythanks01:33
_joeyconnected to ubuntu01:33
clientyeah, it's weird seeing mp3/mpeg restrictions. Most people probably don't know about them01:33
wilee-nileemint is a fork for the gnome2 freaks, and those that can't find codecs.01:33
qin__joey: What phone? symbian generation would do with gammu/wammu01:34
holstein_joey: i use airdroid on my android phone.. that is going to depend on the phone and service you have01:34
clientgnome2 being the stable layout look since XP?01:34
qin_client: do not mention kde01:35
_joeyqin_: nokia01:35
qin__joey: what os?01:35
_joeythere is a connection over 3g01:35
_joeyubuntu01:35
holstein_joey: on the phone.. what OS01:35
qin__joey: yes01:35
_joeywhat do you mean what oS?01:35
clientive never used KDE, but I was on Mint12 with their fork of gnome3. that thing killed my laptop on wubi install01:35
holstein_joey: i use andoid.. there are iOS phone from apple.. what do you have on your nokia?01:36
clientJoey are you using a nokia with windows phone or with symbian?01:36
f4r3j4d0rHello everyone01:36
_joeynokia is the hardware device used to connect ubuntu to the internet over 3G01:36
_joeyholstein why would even matter?01:36
wilee-nilee_joey, Little to much to just answer a question. ;)01:37
holstein_joey: you'll need an application, if there is one, that will communicate with the phone, friend..01:37
client_joey: in order to send an sms, you will likely need an emulator of the software on your phone.01:37
_joeyholstein: exactly. I need an application. So I asked what application is available, fucktard01:37
clientlol01:38
tomreyn_joey: look into gnokii, gammu, wammo, smsclient, smstools01:38
holstein!language | _joey01:38
IdleOne!language | _joey01:38
wilee-nilee!language > _joey01:38
wilee-nileeheh01:38
tomreyn*wammu01:38
holstein_joey: that application, will need to communicate with your phone, and i would need to know what OS to make a suggestion01:38
clientpoor holstein . so sincere, yet underappreciated01:38
ubottu_joey: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.01:38
ubottu_joey, please see my private message01:38
holsteinclient: its a good thing im not here for appreciation :)01:39
qin__joey: if you asked what system run your phone on by two persons it may indicate that it is revelant to question you asked, buddy.01:39
wilee-nileeholstein, Heh, those that know respect you. ;)01:39
clientlet me go sort my issues out. take care.01:39
holsteinclient: good luck01:39
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_joeyqin_: it indicates linux community has changed for the worse for whom something as simple as binary leave with too many options01:45
_joey:)01:45
wilee-nileenothing but empty rhetoric01:46
qin__joey: dude, sinple question what phone is it: symbian, android or m$?01:46
wilee-nileethank god they're gone01:46
qin_oh... kinda feel like risking kick ;)#01:47
beandogwat?  did I miss a troll?01:47
beandog*sniff*01:47
karim_hi01:47
cyrano_is there a support channel for PPC?01:53
beandogppc?  ick.01:53
beandogcyrano_: what problem did you run into?01:54
beandoguh .. just out of curiosity. :)01:54
cyrano_i have an old iMac G4 I'm trying to install 12.04 on via the minimal install cd. The 32-bit version doesn't boot and the 64-bit cd boots but does nothing after typing install or expert01:55
beandogOh okay01:56
beandogUm01:56
beandogSec.01:56
OerHekshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads/01:56
beandogI *just* put it on a g501:56
beandogcyrano_: do a server install on 12.10 and try that01:56
OerHeksthose are special comunity build iso's01:56
daneshelp, my cdrom is not showing up. I pressed the eject button but it is not responding and I cannot see it on nautilus01:57
daneswhat can I do?01:57
beandogdanes: open a terminal and run eject01:58
beandogor alt + f201:58
beandogor whatever it is.01:58
danesbeandog: thanks, that worked01:58
beandogyay01:58
beandogdanes: some CD / DVD drives automatically "lock" when you close them in Linux.  It's annoying.01:58
danesbeandog: hmm I did not know that...01:59
beandogdanes: there's some way to tell it not to do that .. I was just looking at it the other day .. and can't remember what it was.  I think it was in the man page for eject though.01:59
cyrano_beandog: is the G5 an intel or PPC?01:59
beandogcyrano_: ppc6401:59
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beandogcyrano_: I *just* installed an ubuntu on there the other day ... and then I junked the box ... I wish I could remember which version it was, sorry. :T  I know it was really recent.02:00
beandogso 13.04 or 12.1002:00
danesbeandog: well, the command eject worked to eject the cd but when I insert it back it is locking again and not mounting automatically...02:01
beandogdanes: really?  it's not mounting?  What's in there?  CD or DVD?02:01
danesbeandog: cd02:01
beandogOdd.02:02
beandogIt worked before, I'm guessing?02:02
beandogdanes: is it a DVD drive?02:02
danesbeandog: yes02:02
danesits a laptop drive02:02
beandogHmm02:02
beandogdanes: open a terminal and run dmesg | grep sr002:03
beandogsee if there's any kernel flakeouts02:03
danesbeandog: [126944.851537] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] CDB:02:03
beandogdanes: yah, that's a no.02:04
beandogOh well.02:04
danesbeandog: that appears many times02:04
beandogYah, that's fine.02:04
beandogThat's nothing strange.02:04
danesI just dont want to restart right nnow as I've been analyzing data for days and I cannot afford to lose it. I need to burn a cd02:05
beandogWell you should be able to burn one just fine.02:05
beandogYou can always manually mount a CD anyway02:05
danesI tried with mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom02:06
danesbut it didnt work02:06
beandogwhat'd it do02:06
beandogrun it as root?02:06
danesI run it as sudo02:06
beandogkk02:06
beandogWait, you will or you did?02:06
th0rDanes: if you are trying to burn a blank, linux can't mount a blank02:07
beandogthat.02:07
danesbeandog: I did02:07
danesmount: /dev/sr0 already mounted or /mnt/cdrom/ busy02:07
danesthen I tried umount and fstab said its not mounted02:08
beandoglike th0r said, are you trying to mount a blank CD?02:08
danesnope02:08
danesjust any cd and/or dvd02:08
beandogHmm02:08
beandogTry umount /dev/sr002:08
beandogEr02:08
beandogFirst of all, run mount, see if anything really is mounted02:08
beandogIf it02:08
FloodBot1beandog: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:08
beandogIf it's not, do a lazy unmount.  sudo umount -l /dev/sr0.  That could clear its head.02:09
danesok02:09
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beandogAlso make sure you don't have any folders open trying to access the directory that was on the CD.  That could flake it out, too.02:09
danesok02:10
beandogThis is probably a good time to mention I tend to use the most complex appraoches first ..02:10
beandogand I need to leave soon.02:10
beandogheh02:10
danesbeandog: nope, same thing. I closed all windows and still not responding02:11
danesbeandog: its saying its not mounted02:11
danesanyways... I'll keep trying02:11
beandogOkay lemme think.02:11
danesI even tried removing the drive and reinserting it02:12
beandogRun sudo lsof /dev/dvd, or on /dev/sr0 or /dev/cdrom.  See if anything is trying to access it.02:12
danesbut same thing02:12
beandogSorry, lsof | grep02:12
beandogsudo lsof | egrep "(sr0|cdrom|dvd)"02:12
danesohhh I think it may be testdisk...02:12
danesI am analyzing an external hdd02:13
danesI think I'll have to wait then...02:13
beandogOkay02:13
beandogdanes: good luck mon, I must leave this planet.02:13
beandogmy stomach needs me.02:14
danesbeandog: peace bro02:14
beandoggl man02:14
crankharderis there a good backup manager available?  been using "rsync -av --delete /source /destination", but I fear that doesn't protect me from data corruption on the source drive.  I'd like something that warns me that something has changed in that regard02:14
somsip!info rdiff-backup | crankharder02:20
ubottucrankharder: rdiff-backup (source: rdiff-backup): remote incremental backup. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.8-7 (raring), package size 171 kB, installed size 634 kB02:20
somsipcrankharder: with that offering incremental backups, old data is not overwritten.02:21
crankharderhmm, kinda dont want incrementals for certain folders02:21
somsipcrankharder: it can be customised...02:21
crankharderlike music/video shouldn't change ever02:21
somsipcrankharder: I backup / and /home daily, photos only if changed, and videos manually. All using a combinaton of rdiff-backup and rsync. But anyway, that was just my suggestion to try to help with the issue you wanted to avoid02:23
crankharderright, but what defines "changed"02:24
crankharderpresumably /source could get corrupted and taht'd trigger a backup, right?02:24
wilee-nileecrankharder, You have it croned?02:25
somsipcrankharder: changed means 'I copy new photos from my camera to my harddrive'...02:25
wilee-nileescheduled?02:25
checoimgHow does file corruption trigger a backup ? Does corruption include writing on the file the last modification ?02:26
crankharderis it not possible that a file gets corrupted and then your backup process recognizes that its changed and overwrites the backup w/ the corrupted file?02:28
checoimgI don;t think so and in my experience a backup program has never notices changes like that02:29
checoimgAnd I have worked with corrupted files02:29
wilee-nileecrankharder, Theoretically yes, however we are in the ether now with conjecture.02:29
wilee-nileeyou could get hit with an asteroid, theoretically02:30
checoimgTheoretically ? Theoretically is knowing the code and how the OS and file manager works02:31
wilee-nileechecoimg, yes master. ;)02:33
checoimghaha02:33
wilee-nileeThis is support not could this imaginary thing happen.02:33
checoimgThat approach would be the most straight forward. Reading the whole file like doing a MD5 CheckSum02:34
checoimgto the file and then comparing from there02:34
checoimgbut that would be a huge charge to the CPU02:34
checoimgand to the system02:34
checoimgI think the way it does is that the system stores in the file the last modified time to the file on an appended file linked to the file02:35
checoimgthen programs read that file and work form there02:35
MidnightNinjahey, can anyone tell me how to disable swap through grub?02:35
checoimgNot a chance to hear swap disabling from me02:36
checoimgI don;t imagine why would that be useful maybe you can tell me02:36
MidnightNinjaSo its not possible?02:36
wilee-nileeMidnightNinja, You can change the swappiness, you would comment it out in fstab02:36
holstein!swap02:36
ubottuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info02:36
MidnightNinjaI finally got grub to boot, and it appears boot hangs on adding swap02:36
MidnightNinjaalthough, it could be the massive 30GB i allocated to swap, but its been hanging for about 5-10 minutes02:37
wilee-nileeMidnightNinja, Run blkid and check the uuid in fstab02:37
CoburnMidnightNinja: afaik the swap is formatted every boot02:37
MidnightNinjais it possible the swap is being formatted takes longer than 5-10 minutes02:38
holsteini would resize it to 4 gb's and take up the rest of the space with something useful02:38
checoimgDO you have 30 GB of RAM ?02:38
MidnightNinjaholstein: the point of this installation is android compillation02:38
MidnightNinjaI have 16GB now02:38
checoimgThat's something I never thought about Linux02:38
checoimgYes that's exactly what I want to use 16 GB02:38
MidnightNinjahuh, computer went to black screen02:38
checoimgsince laptops won't get more for a price of 130002:39
holsteinMidnightNinja: still, you have customized quite a few things apparently.. whats causing the boot issue? not sure.. but i would start with swap, as you are02:39
MidnightNinjaI bought a 1300 lenoyo y510p sli02:39
checoimgHow many processors ?02:39
MidnightNinjaholstein: well a number of issues are going on. #1 its a uefi computer02:39
MidnightNinjaits a 4th gen haswell i702:39
checoimgI need 12 cores02:40
checoimgfor rendering02:40
holsteinMidnightNinja: sure, but you knew all of that going in...02:40
checoimgWell if having a 16 GB swap, I wonder how servers do on this02:40
MidnightNinja2) its a dual boot, and grub has been severally messed up through several attempts at installation, and 3) i just got grub to install through hackery with a live usb02:40
MidnightNinjaholstein: yup02:40
MidnightNinjaThe issues i expect are though, are the dual nvidia gpus02:41
holsteinMidnightNinja: i have dual GPU02:41
checoimgyou mean SLI  ?02:41
MidnightNinjayep02:41
checoimgOk02:42
MidnightNinjaiirc they are geforce 750ms,. which require nvidia drivers02:42
checoimgWell MS won;t get a check from me anymore,, I'll buy my computer with Linux pre-installed02:42
MidnightNinjado you think I should still investigate the swap issue? the boot went to black screen after, which looks like nvidia problem02:42
holsteinMidnightNinja: shouldnt require those drivers to boot.. and that shouldnt have anything to do with grub02:42
MidnightNinjalol-i know, but Im an engineering student02:42
MidnightNinjai need to run cad and stuff02:43
checoimgArchitecture ?02:43
holsteinMidnightNinja: what would i do? if you are in the beginning stages, i would refer to the uefi documenation, and try doing a rather generic install.. defaults.. and see how the performance is, and go from there02:43
MidnightNinjaholstein, I replaced quiet splash to nomodeset in the grub02:43
holsteinMidnightNinja: the way i see it, you have quite a few variables.. new OS on new hardware that is questionably supported with lots of custom options in the install02:44
MidnightNinjaholstein: Ive already set uefi up to accept the installation, grub has installed, and when I boot into live usb, the system recognizes the ubuntu installation02:44
checoimgYes that's one of the reasons why people stay on Windows02:44
MidnightNinjaholstein: yep, but Ive seen that others have gotten it to work02:44
wilee-nilee!ot > checoimg02:44
ubottuchecoimg, please see my private message02:44
holsteinMidnightNinja: sure.. i'll keep quiet and let you work with the other volunteers.. just keep in mind, it could be your configuration, your customizations02:45
MidnightNinjaholstein, no need to be quiet, I'd just rather assume I can get it to work lol02:45
Coburnmost likely you need to compile the latest kernel02:45
Coburnsince afaik Ubuntu 13.04 was... 3.5x.02:45
holsteinMidnightNinja: thats the issue.. im saying, you are assuming, and you cant.. have to test02:46
CoburnUNnless I am mistaken02:46
checoimgWell you should get that partition shrinked02:46
MidnightNinjaI found that someone here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/272570/unable-to-install-ubuntu-on-lenovo-y500 got the old model to work, which is similar02:46
wilee-nileeCoburn, 3.8.0-26 here02:46
MidnightNinjaOkay, I understand you now02:46
checoimgto much swap it's almost the double that you need02:46
MidnightNinjaholstein: I understand your point now02:46
MidnightNinjachecoimng-I know I need a ton to get a fast android build--my last computer took 8 hours to get a build02:47
Coburnmy new AMD build is UEFI and it runs Mageia Linux fine using GRUB202:47
MidnightNinjaHow would I update the kernel?02:47
holsteinMidnightNinja: i dont think so.. you shouldnt need more swap for that02:47
CoburnMidnightNinja: you can compile android fine without swap02:47
holsteinMidnightNinja: more swap space shouldnt speed up a build process02:47
CoburnMidnightNinja:  I've seen sites about an official PPA that you add and you can get linux-image-3.902:47
Coburnetc02:47
MidnightNinjado you think it would help?02:48
holsteinMidnightNinja: try it02:48
Coburnwell 3.8 is eol I think02:48
Coburn!google02:48
ubottuWhile Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.02:48
wilee-nileeCoburn, For the record non stock kernels are not supported here.02:48
holsteinMidnightNinja: if you know how to purge a PPA and keep multiple kernels02:48
Coburnwilee-nilee: fiddlesticks02:48
MidnightNinjaI do not know how to do that...I can google and gfind out02:49
varun_Coburn, as far as I know, repositories are either official or PPAs. There is nothing like "official PPA".02:49
wilee-nileeCoburn, Lol, that is the way it is camper. ;)02:49
holstein!ppa02:49
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge02:49
MidnightNinjahuh02:49
MidnightNinjahmm02:50
holsteinMidnightNinja: im the kind of guy who will load a live CD with a kernel in it just to see how it supports my hardware02:50
checoimgOr a Live USB02:50
MidnightNinjaholstein: gotcha02:50
MidnightNinjaThe odd thing is that the live usb works perfectly02:51
holsteinMidnightNinja: thats also why i would look at how you have installed it.. when you said "30gb's of swap", i saw red flags02:51
MidnightNinjaI set the swap through gparted, and installed to a 370GB partition02:51
holsteinnuclearbob: there is no reason to do that, and i dont know what else, if anything, you have customized that could be causing issues02:51
holsteinMidnightNinja: i load the installer, and click install.. and my machine, with dual GPU boots.. try doing that.. keep it simple02:52
holsteinnuclearbob: sorry02:52
checoimgWell bye guys, hope you guys can solve the problem.02:52
holsteinchecoimg: cheers02:52
holsteinMidnightNinja: also, if you installed upgrades during the installation, then the installed version is different than the live one02:53
MidnightNinjaholstein: that might explain it02:53
MidnightNinjaThink I should remove the swap, format and try again?02:53
MidnightNinjawithout upgrades of course02:54
holsteinMidnightNinja: and keeping it as stock as possible02:54
holsteinif for nothing else, just to learn, and test graphics drivers02:54
nurowhello, I just installed Ubuntu and installed my drivers and a few applications, updated ubuntu, and the restarted. But when the computer came back up, I now get a permissions error any time that I try to install something in Ubuntu Software Center02:54
holsteinnurow: open a teraminal and type "sudo -i" and share an error02:55
nurowholstein, no error... and actually it is now working in Ubuntu Software Center... I have no idea what just happened02:56
holsteinnurow: fat-finger is my guess.. cheers!02:56
MidnightNinja!uefi02:56
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI02:56
nurowNah, this was never giving me that login prompt before.02:56
varun_nurow, it might have figured out that people in IRC are going to torture it ;P02:57
holsteinnurow: this?02:57
nurowit*02:57
holsteinnurow: it?02:57
nurowubuntu software center02:57
MidnightNinjahuh02:57
holsteinnurow: you'll be asked for a password..02:57
MidnightNinjaI just realized something odd-There is no direct option for secure boot in uefi02:57
nurowi know. this time i got asked for a password. but the first four times it simply said "Permission Denied"02:57
MidnightNinjaat least in my uefi02:58
nurowso... next issue I suppose. Can anyone point me to the guide that is used to uninstall the "More suggestions" and remove the "Recently accessed files" from everytime I hit the Ubuntu button?02:59
holsteinnurow: what ubuntu button? the main menu in unity?02:59
nurowyeah02:59
qin_nurow: so called: dash03:00
nurowah03:00
holsteinnurow: http://askubuntu.com/questions/86544/how-do-i-delete-the-entire-history-recently-used-items-in-the-dash maybe03:00
qin_nurow: check settings > privacy03:01
MidnightNinjaanyone here very familar with uefi?  where would I find the option to disable secure boot?03:01
holsteinMidnightNinja: in the bios, AFAIK03:01
MidnightNinjaIm in the bios, but I dont see an option for that03:02
cipherboyMidnightNinja, holstein is correct, but perhaps if you tell us model of the system, we could help you more.03:02
MidnightNinjalenovo y510p03:02
holsteinMidnightNinja: might not be.. i dont have UEFI, but i think its really up to the manufacturer03:02
MidnightNinjathe lenovo y500 is a similar model if that helps03:02
holsteinsimilar likely wont help at all.. unless its *identical*03:03
nurowboom. thanks guys :)03:03
MidnightNinjatrue03:03
cipherboyholstein, MidnightNinja... Technically Microsoft says that you are allowed to disable secure boot on non-ARM platforms (thus keeping its Surface RT "safe").... And most manufacturers tend to allow secure boot to be disabled.03:04
holsteinits definitely something im going to try and check before i buy anything.03:04
MidnightNinjacipherboy: interesting-although this is the most mangeled windows installation i have ever seen03:05
varun_MidnightNinja, does it have win8 preinstalled?03:05
MidnightNinjavarun_:yes03:05
MidnightNinjavarun_ :yes03:05
varun_MidnightNinja, have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Accessing_the_UEFI_settings_from_Windows8 ?03:05
holsteinvarun_: thats handy!03:06
MidnightNinjadoes that boot into a different access point for the bios?  Ill give it a shot03:06
cipherboyMidnightNinja, perhaps another link would be http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/secureboot.html03:06
holsteinvarun_: is that part of all of them? or do you know?03:06
cipherboyLink was part of this Ask Ubuntu thread: http://askubuntu.com/questions/312684/uefi-13-04-install-on-lenovo-ideapad-y510p-boots-windows-instead03:06
Mathiseni had big problems to make my machine dual boot with windows 8 did not work when i install debian from usb but when i burned it to a dvd it worked ... grub installed itself on the usb .. dont know if the same issue affects ubuntu03:07
Mathisenand i have uefi bios03:07
varun_holstein, I have an absolute zero experience with win8 :P03:08
Acesup03:09
AceI seem to have screwed up my software sources03:09
holsteinvarun_: yeah, i have none with UEFI and linux yet03:09
Aceany ideas how to fix?03:09
holsteinAce: elaborate on how you have broken them03:10
Mathisencorrection grub did install the uefi boot partition on the usb03:10
holsteinAce: you can always just grab the proper sources from either the backup you should have made, or from a live CD, or a volunteer, or searching around for them03:10
AceLots of duplicate sources.list entry errors03:10
Aceholstein, lesson learner -_-03:11
holsteinAce: i would try to restore to defaul, and get "sudo apt-get update" to complete without errors03:11
Ace*learned03:11
holsteindefault*03:11
Acehow do? Interwebs weren't much of a help on that03:11
holsteinAce: assuming you havent installed any/many packages from other sources, you should be albe to make it work03:11
holsteinAce: what operating system are you using?03:11
Acexbmcbuntu03:12
Acetrying to make an htps03:12
Acegave up on mythtv03:12
Acetvheadend wasn't working, so now I'm trying VDR03:13
holsteinAce: in a terminal, run "lsb-release -a"03:13
holsteinbut, unfortunately, xbmcbuntu is not ubuntu03:13
Aceas root?03:13
holsteinso, for example, if you are running xbmcbuntu based on 12.04, you can try a default 12.04 sources file, but you really should ask the xbmcbuntu community03:14
holsteinwe dont know what changes they have made to the sources03:14
holsteinand, xbmcbuntu is not supported here...03:14
holsteinAce: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ could be handy.. but again, you could have need of custom sources from the xbmcbuntu community03:15
Acethanks03:15
Aceany way to adjust the colors on vim to make it more readable?03:17
cxzany ideas on how i can download a source .deb file and all it's dependencies?03:18
holsteinAce: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VimHowto might help03:18
holsteincxz: really depends on the .deb and what it needs..03:19
holsteincxz: have you used synaptic? there is a "gernerate download script" option you can try03:19
cxzno i shall try that i guess03:20
MidnightNinjahuh03:21
cipherboycxz, what package? if it is one of the ones in Ubuntu, you could look online. If you download the file, `dpkg -I deb.deb` should tell you03:22
MidnightNinjait appears that when I have legacy first in uefi , grub boots, and when I have uefi first, windows loads03:22
holsteini think legacy is what you want, as long as that works for you otherwise MidnightNinja03:23
AceMidnightNinja, what version of windows03:23
cipherboyAce, 803:23
MidnightNinjaAce:windows 8, uefi03:23
AceWindows 8 uses a uefi bootloader03:23
cipherboyMidnightNinja, can you boot Win from legacy?03:23
MidnightNinja cipherboy: nope03:23
Ace7 can be made to use a uefi bootloader03:23
MidnightNinjawindows bootmanager pops up and gets angry03:23
Acesecure-boot03:24
MidnightNinjaAce: no visible secure-boot option03:24
cipherboyMidnightNinja, looks like you should configure grub then to insta boot linux, then use bios to switch, lol.03:24
MidnightNinjalol03:24
Aceyou can uefi boot grub by adding the secure-boot keys to the bios03:24
MidnightNinjacipherboy: luckily, lenovo left a bios button on the computer :)03:24
AceMidnightNinja, what kind of computer?03:25
holsteini have a very limited amount of hoops i hop through for windows, personally03:25
MidnightNinjaAce: Lenovo y510p SLI03:25
MidnightNinjato add more insult to injury, ubuntu shows up in the uefi list, but boots grub rescue03:25
Aceyou have to add the secure-boot keys03:25
MidnightNinjawhen it boots from the hard drive, grub loads03:25
MidnightNinjahow would I do that?03:25
Acedepends on the machine03:26
Acebut you are required to be able to...03:26
MidnightNinjaThe other issue that Im unsure about is the fact that all partitions seem to be gpt03:27
MidnightNinjaI dont know if that adds another variable to the mix here03:27
Acenot at all03:28
Aceuefi/secure-boot/windows 8 requre it03:28
AceI wish I wasn't so new to linux03:29
AceI'd be more able to explain how to modify grub...03:29
AceI could tell you anything you want about windows03:29
MidnightNinjaAce: how would I modify grub to boot on my system--I've added nomodeset to the kernel entry in gurb03:31
nuggaHi how to intall ubuntu in my tqblet03:31
Guerrilla_Can anybody help me setup my dual monitors, on lubuntu, do i just go to the video card website or is there more to it.... atm they are just mirroring each other03:31
earmanhello everyone!!!03:32
nuggaGuerilla type this  in terminal  sudo monitor03:32
nuggaEarman i fuck ur dickman03:32
Guerrilla_sudo:monitor command not found03:33
cipherboyGuerrilla_, nugga, fyi... sudo monitor does nothing. Monitor is a part of dmucs, a part of distcc.03:33
cipherboy[sarcasm] iirc, distributed compiling and configuring dual monitors have little in common03:33
varun_MidnightNinja, the wiki page (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI) clearly states that you must install Ubuntu in the same mode as the pre-installed OS (win8) is, (if you want to boot both). It seems you installed Ubuntu in legacy mode.03:33
earmanwhat?03:33
earmanshit03:34
MidnightNinjavarun_: would that cause boot issues at all?03:35
tomreynearman: basically, the hint given to you was wrong. look into what xrandr can do (and watch your words).03:36
varun_MidnightNinja, yes it would. But I don't have personal experience with UEFI, so can't say what kind of issues.03:36
varun_MidnightNinja, are you able to boot normally when BIOS is in legacy mode?03:37
MidnightNinjaI am not able to boot into windows03:37
MidnightNinjaI am unable to boot into ubuntu either, but that is a recurring problem03:37
varun_MidnightNinja, not even when in legacy mode? (ubuntu)03:38
SunStaruse the windows disk to boot, select repair my computer and select start-up repair03:38
MidnightNinjavarun_:ubuntu has never worked on my computer03:38
MidnightNinjaSunStar: never works for me...lol03:39
varun_MidnightNinja, do you have boot-info report uploaded somewhere? If not, use boot-repair to generate it, then give us its pastebin link.03:40
MidnightNinjawill do03:40
roothorickI'm completely at a loss... I put the 12.04 alternate installer on a USB stick, and it boots on every single machine EXCEPT the one I want to actually install on, where I get a generic "please insert a bootable device" message03:45
Konataroothorick, are there any bootable devices to boot from on that machine aside from usb03:46
roothorickpreviously I had the stick set up without a partition table... it tried to boot but I'd get a screenful of "error 0100 reading sector" before I even got the boot menu03:46
roothorickDVD drive... I don't have any DVD-Rs03:46
Konatais there a physical hdd in the machine03:46
roothorickyes03:46
roothorickalready forcibly disabled in the boot order03:46
Konataokay now stupid question time03:47
Konatawhen you plug in the usb drive and power on the computer03:47
Konataand go to boot selection03:47
Konata... does it show up?03:47
Mathisenyes03:47
roothorickwell I can't find a boot menu in this BIOS03:47
roothorickbut I can go into the setup and it shows it and lets me select a boot "mode"03:47
roothorickeverything gives the message except "Force FDD" which just hangs at a blinking cursor03:48
roothorickI'm contemplating pulling the damn hard drive out and using a VM to do the initial install03:48
roothorickdrivers will be messed up but eh03:48
virtytrying to get my VM to talk to the other VM, but when I try to ping or tracepath, instead of going to 192.168.200.20 it goes to the external IP and, of course, that can't find a local IP...03:49
RalliasWoot... fresh upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 makes my grandma able to see lips move on her favorite show.03:50
roothorickyeah, I'm gonna do this the hacky "virtual machine with no disk image" way03:50
roothorickdon't know what else to do03:50
Ralliasroothorick, Eh, the drivers would survive. I've done similar installs in the past.03:50
Mathisenburn it on cd ?03:50
roothorickMathisen: I don't have one available03:51
RalliasUnless you need a custom driver for your video card or wireless card.03:51
roothorickwell, the vidcard in it, I'm pretty sure is too new for nouveau03:51
Ralliasroothorick, Is your network card supported by ubuntu's installer?03:51
roothorickRallias: it's an Intel Pro/1000 series, should be03:51
roothorickyou have a neat trick?03:51
Ralliasroothorick, You could put ubuntu's mini.iso's vmlinuz and initrd.gz in the grub configuration and boot to it.03:52
RalliasI've done it several times... just not with ubuntu/grub203:52
roothorickokay, but how do I boot it?03:53
RalliasHold down the key you use to enter grub.03:53
RalliasI think it's shift... although I may be wrong.03:53
roothorickhow do I boot gcrub?03:53
roothorick*grub03:53
Ralliasroothorick, Grub is the stage before plymouth.03:54
roothorickRallias: I'm aware. But I'm not even getting that far.03:54
Ralliasroothorick, So you are unable to turn your computer on to OS?03:54
cipherboyroothorick, been a while since I worked on the project, but you could look https://github.com/cipherboy/grubiso for a general idea on booting isos off of hard drives... same concept applies to booting USBs from ISOs. Make it ext2/3/4, shove grub on it, copy a iso there, edit the grub.cfg03:54
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roothorickRallias: the farthest I've gotten is grub's stage1 tries to load and barfs all over the screen03:55
RalliasDoes it say something like cannot find hard drive?03:55
roothorickcipherboy: at that point I might as well do the install via VM...03:55
roothorickRallias: "error 0100 reading sector XXXXX" over and over and over again03:55
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roothorickRallias: keep in mind, the same stick boots on my laptop no problem03:56
cipherboyroothorick, btw, are you using secure boot?  as for install via vm, was pointing to it as a general idea as to how to get the iso to boot perhaps.03:56
roothorickcipherboy: machine is so old it doesn't know what secure boot is03:56
Ralliasroothorick, Oh... just read back a bit... sounds like syslinux being an issue.03:56
cipherboyroothorick, good, good. How did you create the usb? LiveUSB or grub to iso boot?03:57
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roothorickcipherboy: the universal USB installer tool for windows03:57
roothorickI'm gonna go with the VM install03:57
Ralliasroothorick, Yes, a VM would be your best option. It sounds like your motherboard doesn't expose your USB drive as an IDE drive during 16bit mode.03:57
roothorickI can remove the vbox additions pretty easily03:57
RalliasYou don't need to install it in the first place.03:58
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nabnhi. i have a couple of folders pinned up on the top bar of my  gnome-classic DE. (i dont know what to call it, i guess it's the menu bar) . there doesnt seem to be a way to remove them. Is there no way of doing that?04:09
wilee-nileenabn, Try the alt key while clicking, for options.04:14
wilee-nileehttp://askubuntu.com/questions/91445/how-do-i-remove-an-icon-from-the-top-panel-in-gnome-fallback-mode04:14
Romewhy do ppl use github?? Ugh, why not just make another module.. Not everybody knows how to use github..!!04:15
RalliasRome, People use github because it's a big name. It doesn't matter if it's good enough, people just like big names. Like microsoft.04:16
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Romewell.. it sucks, cause these ppl updating stuff with github, and im lost  as to wat to do, do i copy and paste> Am i supposed to dl the module over?  ugh. And scared to ask them wtf to do with the github update.. they make u feel like u are a real dummy! Or they say Google. Or READ.. lmao. .. imma just wait till someone i know if online personally so they can explain to me in private.. Dont04:19
Romefeel like being embarrased04:19
FloodBot1Rome: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:19
wilee-nileeRome, This channel is support not rant and swear central, keep the words clean and on topic.04:19
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nabnwilee-nilee, sorry. nothing happens04:24
MidnightNinjacan anyone take a look at this boot info?04:25
MidnightNinjahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5879664/04:25
nabnwilee-nilee, when i right click-> properties, it says launcher properties04:25
holsteinRome: i thik code school has free git lessons http://www.codeschool.com/courses/try-git04:26
MidnightNinjagrub is currently installed to hdd, not efi.  Installed ubuntu wll not boot  after  "running /scripts/init-bottom...done"04:26
MidnightNinjahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5879664/04:26
aaasanyone want to take a stab at my VirtualHost to try and get spike/test/web/app_dev.php to spike/test  (pulled from stackexchange) http://pastebin.com/MqJaFtuX04:26
wilee-nileenabn, The fallback session has been changing, I would look on askubuntu using your release and fall back and your problem, if it were me.04:26
nabnwilee-nilee, thanks. i'll try that out.04:27
wilee-nileeMidnightNinja, this channel would be the last place I looked for UEFI help, the ubuntu forum has excellent help.04:27
MidnightNinjawilee-nille: thanks for the advice.  Ill set up a post there04:28
wilee-nileeMidnightNinja, You want the author of this uefi help thread make sure to have the script you posted in the thread and uefi in the header. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214729504:29
bitbuzzerhi. what is the difference between /usr/bin and /usr/bin/X11?04:32
varun_MidnightNinja, I completely agree with wilee-nilee. Oldfred is the best person I know for troubleshooting UEFI issues.04:33
lauratikai have issues playing this file, totem says Could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file. http://69.175.59.34:8000 what can be wrong??04:36
lauratikaem i conected?04:37
wilee-nileevarun_, Heh, he is the man, in so many ways.04:38
holsteinlauratika: i have only ever used icecast.. i would try a different client to troubleshoot. VLC04:39
varun_old-freind, for boot problems :)04:39
lauratikaholstein: on clementine cant either play it04:40
wilee-nileebitbuzzer, Not really a support question per-say the web might be a better source.04:40
holsteinlauratika: are you sure you set the server up properly?04:40
lauratikaset the server?... this is a link to a radio station. it wont play on any media i have totem and clementine.04:41
p3rf3c7Hi - I'm trying to use the bash "for" function for filenames contained in a file - 1 per line. Some of the file names contain spaces though, so bash executes each part as a seperate for. Is there a way for me to get around this?04:41
MidnightNinjasent pm to old fred04:41
MidnightNinjathanks guys!04:41
MidnightNinjaIm going to turn in for the night.  Thanks for all the help!04:42
holsteinlauratika: i would ask the server maintainer04:42
holsteinlauratika: how are you trying to play it?04:42
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lauratikajust open file either on totem or clementine04:43
holsteinlauratika: says "server full" for me04:43
lauratikaoh, ok so i guess is not working rigth?04:43
holsteinlauratika: that is a server side issue that you will not be able to address client side04:43
lauratikai see, so why totem said i have no permission?04:44
lauratikajust wondering04:44
* holstein shrugs04:44
jtreminioGood evening. Is apt-get really slow for anyone else right now?04:49
Konatadepends, which mirrors are you using jtreminio /04:49
nurowQuestion.. I have installed IceCat, and pinned it to my launcher in Unity. But when I click that icon, it actually creates a second icon on my launcher for the session. If I open the downloads in IceCat, it opens again a THIRD icon on the launcher. How can I fix this?04:50
jtreminioKonata: hmmm … I'm not 100% sure. it's from vanilla ubuntu installs04:53
Konatajtreminio, well04:54
KonataIf you want to check04:54
KonataOpen /etc/apt/sources.list04:54
Konatahttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors04:54
KonataYou may find this URL of great assistance04:54
MesramNo, it's me04:57
cool_boyHello mates !05:01
cool_boyI am on linux 12.04, trying to update but getting error "Requires installation of untrusted packages"05:01
wilee-nileecool_boy, You ad any PPA's05:01
wilee-nileeadd*05:01
cool_boyon terminal I get Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-backports/universe/i18n/Translation-en  Unable to connect to 192.168.0.1:80:05:01
cool_boywilee-nilee: how?05:02
ssfdre38is there a way to send info between 2 servers via ftp or is there another way?05:02
cool_boywilee-nilee: actually i did not understand , what you mean to say?05:02
wilee-nileecool_boy, You might try changing the repo's05:02
wilee-nilee!ppa | cool_boy05:02
ubottucool_boy: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge05:02
cool_boywilee-nilee: No05:02
wilee-nileecool_boy, What you show is not a ppa, I would try a new repo.05:03
cool_boywilee-nilee: how can I try a new repo05:03
cool_boywhat is repo?05:03
wilee-nileecool_boy, Repositories your computer calls for stuff. You can check and change them in the software center-edit-repo's I believe05:04
wilee-nileecool_boy, Some packages may not have keys and be considered untrusted consequently, however if in the ubuntu repos you are safe.05:06
mob001How to check/find Hadware/software RAID is working or not? Please help me on this..05:06
cool_boywilee-nilee: I see edit repo's option nowhere05:06
wilee-nileecool_boy, First tab in software sources has a option, I'm in W8 at the moment so I have to go from memeory here.05:07
Ben64Hi. Ubuntu 12.04, HP Probook 6565b. Broadcom 4313 [14e4:4727]. The wireless worked in the livecd, but not in the install. No wireless networks are found, and it is coming up as either eth0 or eth2, not wlan005:09
PepperoniPizzaBen64, still at it ? :-(05:09
Ben64PepperoniPizza: yep, heh05:09
Ben64if i could just swap out the mini pci-e i would, but apparently HP whitelists certain cards only05:10
oupateddieI can't seem to get a USB flash drive to mount although it is seen by lsusb from command line05:10
wilee-nileeoupateddie, Partition type?05:10
oupateddieProbably FAT16 or 32 and Ubuntu 12.0405:11
oupateddieIt does this with more than one stick05:11
wilee-nileeoupateddie, how are you trying to mount it?05:11
oupateddiePutting into the USB slot05:11
oupateddieThen the system sees the drive/stick but it doesn't come up with filemanager05:11
Random833have you tried mounting it manually with the mount command?05:11
wilee-nileeoupateddie, Have you looked in the left panel in home after plugging in?05:11
oupateddieyep05:12
nurowQuestion.. I have installed IceCat, and pinned it to my launcher in Unity. But when I click that icon, it actually creates a second icon on my launcher for the session. If I open the downloads in IceCat, it opens again a THIRD icon on the launcher. How can I fix this?05:12
wilee-nileesudo mount /dev/sdX/ mnt05:12
PepperoniPizzawilee-nilee, that won't work05:12
oupateddiesdx would be c in this case as there are 2 HDD sdba and sdbb05:13
wilee-nileesudo mount /dev/sdXX/ mnt  heh05:13
PepperoniPizzastill wrong05:13
oupateddielet me see05:13
wilee-nileePepperoniPizza, Then show us oh great one.05:13
wilee-nileelol05:13
PepperoniPizzasudo mount /dev/sdxx /mnt05:13
wilee-nileeah yes well close, lol, no damage done.05:14
PepperoniPizzaif that doesn't work try sudo rm -rf /05:14
PepperoniPizzajk ;-)05:15
wilee-nilee!ops | PepperoniPizza05:15
ubottuPepperoniPizza: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!05:15
wilee-nilee!rm05:15
ubottuThe Unix 'rm' command removes files and directories from the filesystem. It is an extremly powerful tool, and you should not run 'rm' commands unless you fully understand them. Do not run arbitrary 'rm' commands you see online. For a beginning guide on using terminal commands, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal and for a cautionary story about 'rm' see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL_g0tyaIeE05:15
PepperoniPizzacan you calm down kid, I said jk05:15
PepperoniPizzayou know what, don't calm down just enjoy a nice stroke05:15
wilee-nileePepperoniPizza, I'm not a kid and if you post that the ops will be called.05:15
PepperoniPizzaok mr. nilee05:16
oupateddieno medium found on /dev/sdc when I use that command05:16
PepperoniPizzaoupateddie, sudo fdisk -l05:16
elkyPepperoniPizza: please be actually helpful, not "lol lets trick you into deleting your system"05:16
PepperoniPizzaelky, I said jk immediatly after05:17
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PepperoniPizzaoupateddie, it is like /dev/sdc105:17
PepperoniPizzalikely*05:17
oupateddielet me check it seems to be sdd05:17
elkyPepperoniPizza: we are a humourless channel and don't allow that "jk"05:18
PepperoniPizzaelky, thats sad05:18
PepperoniPizzaoupateddie, well you can run sudo fdisk -l to find out what it is05:19
oupateddielet me see now05:19
oupateddieit sees it at sdd05:20
oupateddiebut still can't see it via file manager05:20
cool_boywilee-nilee: here is screen shot of sofrware sources http://postimg.org/image/epth1oo75/ade8cae0/05:20
cool_boyhttp://postimg.org/image/epth1oo75/05:21
PepperoniPizzaoupateddie, is it /dev/sdd1 ?05:21
wilee-nileecool_boy, download from is the option to find the fastest and what repo works for you.05:22
oupateddieyes05:22
cool_boywilee-nilee: I can see global server and india server here05:22
PepperoniPizzaoupateddie, where would you like to mount this drive ?05:22
wilee-nileecool_boy, open the bottom link in dropdown.05:22
oupateddieI have checked on gparted but there seems to be an error as there is no file type and an ! shown05:23
wilee-nileeall the options are on that download from05:23
cool_boywilee-nilee: I can see "main server", "india's server" and "other" options05:23
oupateddiethus the disk seems to be a poblem itself05:23
PepperoniPizzaoupateddie, well try this05:23
wilee-nileeoupateddie, Format it if you need nothing from it in gparted.05:24
PepperoniPizzaoupateddie, does it already have data on it ?05:24
oupateddiewell I have been told there is data on it and I'm trying to get this off the disk05:24
oupateddiebut cannot see anything05:24
oupateddiemight be a virus as it comes from a Windows machine05:25
wilee-nileecool_boy, Other options I believe, which will run find the fastest ping or let you choose another.05:25
cool_boywilee-nilee: well In other options i need to choose one option from the list05:25
cool_boywhich one you suggest?05:25
oupateddieI have found previously that disks do not display anuthing due to some virus of sorts05:26
wilee-nileecool_boy, Yeah, you are just changing the repository somtimes they have problems, you original fail opens here.05:26
wilee-nileeyour*05:26
cool_boywilee-nilee: mine is india's server05:27
wilee-nileeoupateddie, Possible, could be a corrupted partition needing a chkdsk would be my guess.05:27
oupateddiethanks but I'll return it to the client and get the data on another stick which I know is working.... how do you force a mount. I now have another stick which doesn't want to mount at all05:28
wilee-nileecool_boy, Okay, try another, this is a bit of act on your own here to some extent, I have led you to the brook, now yo choose to drink or not. ;)05:28
wilee-nileerun a update after changing is all05:29
varun_cool_boy, the original link you got error with : http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-backports/universe/i18n/Translation-en can you open it in browser? I can here.05:30
cool_boyhere is the result of  "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"  http://pastie.org/814483105:30
cool_boyvarun_: yes I can open05:31
cool_boywell, nothing helped me !05:34
cool_boythanks all05:34
cool_boy:)05:34
varun_cool_boy, that looks normal to me. The "untrusted source" problem occurs with PPAs.05:34
cool_boyvarun_: why I am not able to install updates?05:34
varun_cool_boy, the error message you receive, does it give you details?05:34
cool_boyyou know what, I am not able to ping to the server from where the updates will be installed05:35
varun_which one?05:35
cool_boyit says Connecting to 192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1)05:35
cool_boyand connection time outs05:35
cool_boyprobably it checks on port 8005:35
varun_cool_boy, that is clearly a local address, not a remote server.05:35
cool_boyand it seems local address05:36
Nmbr1cool_boy: unless you changed the protocol in /etc/apt/sourcs.list it is going to try to connect over tcp 8005:36
cool_boyi dont know why it is local05:36
cool_boyNmbr1: I did not change05:36
cool_boyit looks at 80 and server address it looks for is a local address05:36
Nmbr1it looks for a local address?05:36
varun_cool_boy, do you have any PPAs added manually? (Other software tab in Software sources box)05:37
cool_boyNmbr1: yes . 192.168.0.1 is a local address05:37
Kartagisgm05:37
cool_boyvarun_: no i never did05:37
Kartagisgood morning05:37
cool_boyKartagis: Good Morning :)05:37
varun_cool_boy, can you show us "ls -1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d"05:37
Kartagiswhy would icons turn into question mark icons?05:37
Nmbr1cool_boy: unless you are running your own update server at that address or you are updating through a proxy it shouldn't try to contact that address05:37
cool_boyvarun_: http://pastie.org/814484305:38
cool_boyNmbr1: probably it is because I am in a proxy enabled network05:38
cool_boystill I am not sure, it should serach pacakages on a local address05:39
roothorickokay what the hell. I thought the alternate installer was for customizing what's installed? It's pretty much making a full-blown desktop install. I don't need nautilus for this!05:39
varun_cool_boy, what is that "clipgrab-team-ppa-precise.list" for? If not sure, post back "cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/clipgrab-team-ppa-precise.list". Same for the other one also, in the same pastebin link :)05:40
cool_boyvarun_: first one returns05:41
cool_boydeb http://ppa.launchpad.net/clipgrab-team/ppa/ubuntu precise main05:41
cool_boydeb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/clipgrab-team/ppa/ubuntu precise main05:41
cool_boyfor second (.save)05:41
cool_boydeb http://ppa.launchpad.net/clipgrab-team/ppa/ubuntu precise main05:41
cool_boydeb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/clipgrab-team/ppa/ubuntu precise main05:41
Nmbr1cool_boy: that makes more sense05:42
cool_boyNmbr1: yes it makes sense but the local address doesn't05:42
cool_boy:(05:42
varun_cool_boy, what does "nslookup archive.ubuntu.com" return?05:43
roothorickoh whatever, I'll strip the installation once it's up05:44
roothorickaptitude search ~i !~M ftw05:44
sydnerdrageHow does one specify the PPA for a package to install?  I have 2 PPA's with a common package at different versions and I'm a little confused.05:44
cool_boyvarun_: http://pastebin.com/H9gxM8uW05:45
varun_cool_boy, do you have synaptic installed? It would be easier to check proxy settings there.05:48
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cool_boyvarun_: I guess no05:48
cool_boyyou think i should install05:48
varun_cool_boy, No, that's not necessary. I asked because I don't know the commandline way to check that. Perhaps "ls /etc/apt/preferences.d/" ? any output05:49
cool_boyvarun_: no output boss05:50
varun_:(05:50
cool_boyvarun_: for me not possible to install, same problem requires untrusted packages :)05:51
cool_boyvarun_: I guess , I have wasted your enough time05:51
cool_boyThanks  a lot mates05:51
varun_cool_boy, does "apt-get install --print-uris synaptic" return the download links?05:51
varun_npope, we are here to waste time ;P05:52
varun_unless you are tired ;P05:52
cool_boyvarun_:  :D05:52
cool_boythis did something05:52
cool_boyasked me to continue for download 12.7 mb05:53
varun_returned any links at the bottom of output?05:53
cool_boyI pressed Y for install and nothing happened05:53
cool_boydid not install05:53
cool_boyyes05:53
cool_boygot links05:53
cool_boy'http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/sgml-data/sgml-data_2.0.6_all.deb' sgml-data_2.0.6_all.deb 270558 MD5Sum:452b71965d453a7c9e3ee94074f21d9e05:53
cool_boy'http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/docbook-xml/docbook-xml_4.5-7ubuntu1_all.deb' docbook-xml_4.5-7ubuntu1_all.deb 335660 MD5Sum:9197c0c0aa46094ba6e73ac4350af8ec05:53
cool_boy'http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libe/libept/libept1.4.12_1.0.6~exp1ubuntu1_i386.deb' libept1.4.12_1.0.6~exp1ubuntu1_i386.deb 128994 MD5Sum:d52c389f8ad572589aca67f072c9d6cd05:53
cool_boy'http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/r/rarian/librarian0_0.8.1-5_i386.deb' librarian0_0.8.1-5_i386.deb 59208 MD5Sum:5479834d804931af9c825c7cd705d98d05:53
cool_boy'http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/r/rarian/rarian-compat_0.8.1-5_i386.deb' rarian-compat_0.8.1-5_i386.deb 103846 MD5Sum:2568ea639f4de1d4436e35f741d0834205:53
cool_boy'http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/synaptic/synaptic_0.75.9ubuntu1_i386.deb' synaptic_0.75.9ubuntu1_i386.deb 2404832 MD5Sum:1fc22bb2696aa397ed24af57b635ac4105:53
FloodBot1cool_boy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:53
varun_It is not meant to install, just gives you the links which you can use to manually download the packages. cool_boy05:54
Nmbr1try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -d upgrade"05:54
cool_boyvarun_: ok05:54
Nmbr1that will do an update and then download but not install05:54
varun_cool_boy, you can just copy-paste these links in the browser to manually download the packages, Then copy all these packages in a new empty directory.05:54
cool_boyvarun_: same problem05:55
cool_boylocal address05:55
varun_cool_boy, even in downloading?? :-o05:55
cool_boyno05:55
cool_boydownloaded all05:57
cool_boythen?05:57
varun_cool_boy, move them all in a new empty directory on your desktop. Lets name this directory abc.05:57
cool_boyok05:57
cool_boythen?05:57
varun_cool_boy, then in a terminal, do - "cd ~/Desktop/abc && sudo dpkg -i *" to install the packages.05:58
varun_cool_boy, hope there are no errors?05:59
cool_boyOptions marked [*] produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !05:59
cool_boyvarun_: there are06:00
varun_errors??06:00
cool_boydpkg: error: --install needs at least one package archive file argument06:00
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cool_boyi think this abc should be archive file06:00
cool_boyis it?06:00
varun_cool_boy, the abc was the folder name.06:01
cool_boyyes it is but getting error06:01
varun_are you in the directory where the downloaded files are?06:01
varun_in terminal06:01
cool_boyno06:01
varun_then "cd" to it first06:01
cool_boyi guess this is job of cd, is not it06:01
varun_yeah.06:01
cool_boyvarun_: ok06:02
varun_that's why the full command was "cd ~/Desktop/abc && sudo dpkg -i *" (assuming the folder is named "abc" and is on the desktop)06:02
cool_boyvarun_: yes i m in 'abc' directory06:02
varun_ok, now "sudo dpkg -i *"06:03
cool_boyall is fine except eror06:03
cool_boysame errors06:03
varun_are you using "*" in the last?06:03
varun_does "ls" return the package names?06:03
cool_boyyes ls returns packages names06:04
cool_boynot using *06:04
varun_cool_boy, try "sudo dpkg -i ./*" (./ this time)06:04
varun_:|06:04
varun_you need it ;)06:04
varun_the asterisk *06:04
cool_boyvarun_: now is working06:05
cool_boyit is what saying on terminal :P06:05
varun_sounds good so far :)06:05
jnhghyHi, I need to run an .exe app on ubuntu. tried with wine... if I try to run it from the terminal...nothing happens if I right click and run with wine... it works but I have to pass it a parameter for it to do anything....how can I do that?06:06
BuzUVThi there, i want to declare a permanent variable, tryed with export, declare, set it in /etc/enviroment but still doesent work...any tips ?06:06
Ben64jnhghy: might want to try asking in #winehq06:07
varun_cool_boy, when finished, you can open "Synaptic" from dash. Make sure USC is closed when you open synaptic.06:07
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jnhghyBen64: did that before asking here06:07
Ben64jnhghy: well they're the wine support channel06:07
cool_boyvarun_: inslled06:07
cool_boywhat is USC?06:07
Random833jnhghy: what happens if you run wine from the terminal?06:07
HypothesisFroghi06:08
varun_Ubuntu Software Center, cool_boy06:08
Random833(note: i can't help you any further than suggesting that, i'm on my way to bed)06:08
BuzUVTi want to declare a permanent variable, tryed with export, declare, set it in /etc/enviroment but still doesent work...any tips ?06:08
jnhghyRandom833: what do you mean? if I type wine and enter in terminal ... I get the "Usage" info06:08
Random833no06:08
Random833i mean "wine", followed by the path to the exe, followed by the parameter you need to pass it06:09
Random833e.g. wine notepad.exe file.txt06:09
cool_boyvarun_: ok06:09
jnhghyRandom833: then it freezes...06:09
Random833the whole computer?06:09
Random833what do you mean freezes? nothing was running before, how can it freeze?06:10
varun_cool_boy, in synaptic, check "Settings > Preferences > Network tab". Is proxy enabled?06:10
jnhghyRandom833: sorry, wine ... I need to end it with ctrl+c ... and receve: fixme:console:CONSOLE_DefaultHandler Terminating process 8 on event 006:10
Random833maybe you're just not waiting long enough for it to start06:11
Random833anyway, beyond that i have no idea06:11
Random833and i need to go to bed like an hour ago; goodnight06:11
jnhghygn06:11
cool_boyvarun_: direct connection to internet06:11
cool_boyno proxy06:11
cool_boyi should configure proxy server here?06:11
varun_cool_boy, no. It is good as is.06:12
cool_boyfine06:12
varun_cool_boy, what is output of "cat /etc/hosts" ?06:12
mastershakehey guys my terminal is talking and it wont shut the hell up how do i disable this?06:12
seriously_randomare Linux and Windows Steam installations compatible with each other?06:13
histomastershake: what do you meant it's talking?  Did you enable the assistance tools06:13
histoseriously_random: compatible how?06:13
cool_boyvarun_: I get '>'06:13
cool_boyno such file or directory06:13
seriously_randomhisto, can I copy windows Steam folder to linux and start using it?06:14
cool_boyvarun_: sorry i wrote wrong06:14
cool_boyi am getting06:14
cool_boy::1     ip6-localhost ip6-loopback06:14
cool_boyfe00::0 ip6-localnet06:14
cool_boyff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix06:14
cool_boyff02::1 ip6-allnodes06:14
FloodBot1cool_boy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.06:14
varun_cool_boy, no "/etc/hosts" file?? I smell a conspiracy.... hmm.. make sure your doors are locked in the night, as well as in the day..06:15
BuzUVTi want to declare a permanent variable, tryed with export, declare, set it in /etc/enviroment but still doesent work...any tips ?06:15
varun_ok got it.06:15
varun_cool_boy, I'm now suspecting some external proxy or routing configuration on your system. Nothing seems wrong with software sources.06:15
cool_boyvarun_:  yes I am on proxy enabled network06:16
varun_cool_boy, who controls the proxy routes?06:16
Nmbr1can you traceroute the first source and see where it fails? if you are not able to get out of the net to the source address then it is your network administrator that will need to help you get it corrected06:17
varun_cool_boy, you may try the same proxy settings in synaptic. Although I'm not entirely sure what it does, or even if it is meant to address such issues.06:18
varun_cool_boy, plus what Nmbr1 said above ^^06:18
varun_cool_boy, as a quick consolation, if you need to install some specific package, you can use the same "--print-uris" option with apt-get to get the download links, then install it as we did with synaptic.06:20
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Nmbr1cool_boy: you could also take varun_ 's idea of --print-uris and do that for all updates with "> ~/Desktop/links.txt" which will send the uris to a text file and then use wget to download all the packages from the uris in the file.06:21
Nmbr1conceptually you could create a bash file that will replicate the function of apt-get upgrade06:22
cool_boyNmbr1 , varun_ : thanks a lott :)06:22
cool_boyi learnt alot  today  from you  guys !06:23
varun_Nmbr1, that would be 'height of workarounds' ;P06:23
histoseriously_random: I doubt you'd be able to use anything out of the windows folder on linux06:23
varun_cool_boy, welcome anytime :P06:23
Nmbr1no worries , good luck!06:23
Nmbr1varun_: :)06:23
cool_boy:)06:23
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krethanhi06:25
krethandoes anyone know what is wrong with this shell script line:06:26
krethansh $CATALINA_HOME/bin/startup.sh06:27
krethanit drops $CATALINA_HOME value and uses just /bin/startup.sh06:27
somsipkrethan: what does echo $CATALINA_HOME output?06:27
krethan"/usr/local/tomcat"06:28
krethanI have it set above06:28
krethanand then an echo to check that06:28
somsipkrethan: does sh inherit the environment for BASH when it is run? Just a thought...06:28
krethanI'm not sure newbie :P06:29
somsipkrethan: try running without sh06:29
krethank will brb06:30
Kartagiswhy would launchers turn into question mark icons?06:30
Nmbr1krethan: your /bin directory should already be included in $PATH so if you chmod +x /bin/startup.sh you should be able to run startup.sh just by typing "startup.sh" in terminal06:31
krethantrying to create a startup script...06:31
krethansomsip: acting the same way06:32
Nmbr1krethan: if you want to be able to run startup.sh without ".sh" add alias startup ="startup.sh" to your aliases or .bashrc file06:32
krethanwhat does the new line character do to variables in shell scripting?06:34
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varunendraKartagis, did you see this : http://askubuntu.com/a/76344 ?06:41
Kartagisvarunendra: no I hadn't seen it, let me look06:43
Kartagisvarunendra: does this also apply to cairo-dock?06:44
varunendraKartagis, I'm not sure about that, but doesn't cairo dock have its own set of icons? With *some* apps, that problem used to exist before that .desktop file mechanism was introduced in Ubuntu. So it maybe its own issue.06:46
krethanI got it06:46
krethanI am using /bin/su instead of sh and it is working now06:47
pesham new to ubuntu n am loving the experience...wanna be a hardcore linux user....thanx..06:47
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nimeshHi Does anyone know how to stop the black screen when you boot into ubuntu06:52
WarlockStop the black screen?06:52
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wilee-nilee!details | nimesh06:54
ubottunimesh: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."06:54
nimeshWhen it happened I was using 12.04 LTS now I have reverted to 11.10 because it does't happen06:55
wilee-nilee!11.10 | nimesh06:56
al_hello06:56
ubottunimesh: Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) was the fifteenth release of Ubuntu. Desktop support ended on May 9, 2013. See !upgrade, !lts and !eol for more details.06:56
wilee-nilee11.10 is not supported06:56
nimeshI know but the problem was in 12.0406:56
wilee-nileenimesh, Right and you have yet to provide anything that would be helpful, for example what you tried, your graphic setup would be a couple.06:58
WarlockError messages, if any...06:58
nimeshi will look up my graphics06:58
wilee-nileelspci will tell you06:59
goddardwilee-nilee: what is lspci short for?06:59
wilee-nileeno idea06:59
goddardlist system pci06:59
goddard?06:59
al_some news about new xubuntu release?07:00
goddardthat will help me remember it07:00
nimeshit's a sis pcie vga disply aadpter 662/761Gx07:00
goddardnvidia?07:00
nimeshno sis silicon Integrated Systems07:01
nimesh a laptop07:01
varunendranimesh, give us the pastebin link of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 vga"07:01
goddardtime for bed07:01
goddardlater07:01
nimeshthe thing is that it is just a blank screen07:02
nimesh01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter [1039:6330]07:02
nimeshSubsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:0082]07:02
nimeshKernel modules: sisfb07:02
Warlock... pastebin07:03
nimeshlook i am a complete noob what is paste bin07:03
nimeshplz07:03
wilee-nilee!pastebin07:04
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.07:04
nimeshok wait a sec07:04
nimeshhow do i do a screen shot07:05
mm12hey all07:06
HumanSlimehi07:06
mm12how come i cant get the desktop to ship like a cylinder07:06
varunendranimesh, please give us the details of the problem you are having. It may be a graphics issue, although that device as well as the driver seems quite generic type.07:07
nimesh!pastebinit07:07
ubottupastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com07:07
mm12tried compiz07:07
wilee-nileenimesh, I only see a few hits at the ubuntu forums, really without 12.04 installed there is not much that can be done.07:09
anasphow i can install ubuntu phone to alcatel onetouch idol ultra07:10
wilee-nileeanasp, #ubuntu-touch07:11
anaspok07:11
nimeshhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5879942/07:11
nimeshbye i have to go07:12
ezra-sapt-cache show php5-fpm Description part: "Note that MOST Apache users probably want the libapache2-mod-php5 package."   <---- SINNERSSS!!07:13
KriShaNsinif i get a brand new Lenovo thinkpad with windows 7 pro on it. should i even boot into windows the first time. or should i just put the Live USB with raring main desktop in and go into bios menu and boot from usb never even booting into windws ever?07:16
mm12wow ubuntu really neat better then windows 807:16
ActionParsnipKrishanan: I would to resize the NTFS partition07:17
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babinlonstonHi all there any one for helping me , regarding Taking backup my whole server using tar.gz and restore it ...07:17
KriShaNsinso i need to resize the NTFS partition first?07:17
ActionParsnipMm12: depends on needs for which is better really07:17
mm12is epiphany a good web browser07:18
KriShaNsinActionParsnip: but i want a full clean install of Ubuntu07:18
ActionParsnipKrishanan : Win7 can resize its own partitions so I'd use the Microsoft tool to resize a Microsoft file system07:18
KriShaNsinActionParsnip: I dont want to keep windows on the machine07:19
ActionParsnipKrishanan : do you want to use Win7 at all?07:19
KriShaNsinno07:19
KriShaNsinhell no07:19
KriShaNsinso i can just do the full clean install straight away then right?07:19
ActionParsnipKrishanan: aaahh then just boot install media and wipe the NTFS off :)07:19
KriShaNsinyeah cool07:20
ezra-sKriShaNsin, then go ahead and install07:20
ActionParsnipKrishanan : yes absolutely07:20
ActionParsnipMm12: good is a comparison of needs vs what is needed07:20
ActionParsnipMm12: something isn't simply "good" or "bad"07:21
ActionParsnipMm12: think about it07:21
ActionParsnipMm12: I hate firefox web browser but someone else thinks its great. Is firefox a "good" browser?07:23
ActionParsnipMm12: its nonessential07:23
KriShaNsinwhat web browser do you prefer action?07:23
ActionParsnipMm12: install Epiphany and use it as you would any other.  If you like it, use it07:24
ActionParsnipKrishanan : chrome here07:24
ActionParsnipAlthough arora is featuring more07:25
babinlonstonHi all there any one for helping me , regarding Taking backup my whole server using tar.gz and restore it ...07:26
ActionParsnip!backup07:27
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning07:27
iceroot!backup | babinlonston07:27
ubottubabinlonston: please see above07:27
icerootbabinlonston: dont just use tar.gz on a running system, it may result in a corrup backup07:27
babinlonstonok07:27
user123why is direct download 13.04 iso image and torrent file is showing difference in size ? desktop iso is 785mb while torrent is 823mb something....same for 12.04.2 iso and torrent files07:47
zipywith spyware build in :P07:48
zipydunno, never used torrents but arent all torrents bigger?07:48
wilee-nileeuser123, May be the measurement of your torrent client some call 1000mib a gig some say 101207:48
wilee-nileecheck the md5sums07:49
wilee-nileeor eh 102407:50
Deepfriedicewilee-nilee, You are forgiven.07:50
Kartagis!pin07:50
ubottupinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto07:50
user123hmm...but it doesn't matters with the final files on hdd coz the files will be same whether we download them directly or from some torrent or warez etc...so what i'm thinking is to download both the torrent files and iso image and compare their sizes07:51
wilee-nileeuser123, If your using official sources, your are wasting your time.07:52
Deepfriediceuser123, I would use SHA512 rather than filesize, but sure.07:52
Kartagiswhat was 12.04 named?07:52
varunendrauser123, using nautilus, the default file browser?07:52
Kartagis!12.0407:53
ubottuUbuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the current !LTS release of Ubuntu.  Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/120407:53
user123i remember that i had this question in previous releases also....and that time i was suggested herre that maybe any one of the file must be broken and i did md5 and sha and it was same07:53
wilee-nilee!12.04 | Kartagis use the web man07:53
ubottuKartagis use the web man: please see above07:53
wilee-nilee!120407:53
varunendrauser123, nautilus has some bug or something due to which it shows the size larger than actual. It is normal for me now.07:53
chunkyheadvarunendra: which os are you using?07:54
user123varunendra: ohh, i didn't knew about that bug07:54
KartagisI was trying to write a /etc/apt/preferences file07:54
Deepfriedicevarunendra, is it a bug, or just the 2^(10*x) vs 10^(x) thing?07:54
varunendra12.04 LTS, 64 bit, kernel 3.2.0.3607:54
chunkyheadvarunendra: icon sizes can be changed, i guess ctrl+scroll up/down07:55
varunendraDeepfriedice, I suspected that, perhaps it is part of the explanation, but never cared enough to verify.07:55
sabanhow to add domain mydomain.com search mydomain.com to resolv.conf in 12.04???07:55
user123varunendra: your name suggests you are somewhere in saarc ?07:55
varunendrachunkyhead, I'm talking about sizes in bytes :D07:55
chunkyheadvarunendra: oh lol my bad. i thought sizes of icons07:55
varunendrauser123, how so? I'm glorified it seems :D07:56
user123varunendra: lol, hindi ?07:56
varunendrauser123, oh, I thought you meant the organisation saarc. lol. I'm in India, yeah, hindi speaking North Indian :)07:57
llutzsaban: add those lines to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head07:57
llutzsaban: run "sudo resolvconf -u" after that07:57
ActionParsnipllutz: ahh, didn't know that one07:58
llutzActionParsnip: man resolvconf :)07:58
user123varunendra: lol, well i doubt if anybody associated with saarc comes here07:58
ActionParsnipllutz: word07:58
chunkyheaddoes anyone know where does ubuntu store it's cursor theme? i managed to change the theme using unity-tweak-tool and then eversince when my cursor is on the desktop it's displaying default theme and when i hover it on top of an appliaction it displays the current theme. any help with that?07:58
ActionParsnipchunkyhead: tried logging off and on?07:59
varunendrauser123, you never know ;)07:59
sabanidk why you had to change from simple to confusing in 12.04 :/07:59
sabantnx07:59
jtreminiochunkyhead: you actually have to run some command line stuff08:00
user123varunendra: if the person will not be of sound mind then I suppose I'll be wrong :)08:00
chunkyheadActionParsnip: yes i tried, tried restarting, im stuck on this problem from tha past 1 month08:01
chunkyheadjtreminio: i dont wanna run unity --reset command08:01
varunendrauser123, which source did you get the torrent by the way? You should verify its MD5sum if you have even the slightest doubt.08:01
chunkyheadthat will end up reseting alot of add on i've installed jtreminio08:01
user123varunendra: fron ubutnu.com...i hope its trustworthy08:01
jtreminiochunkyhead: http://askubuntu.com/questions/295101/ubuntu-tweak-tool-mouse-cursor-would-not-change-theme08:01
Kartagishrm, I've pinned according to the instructions in !pin. how do I get a pinned package?08:01
user123lol ubuntu.com varunendra08:02
varunendrauser123, if it was an official source, there is no chance of error. Torrents ensure data integrity. Just let it finish to 100%08:02
chunkyheadjtreminio: this should work, let me get back to  you once i am online thru my homePC thanks for the help :D08:02
gartralhey all, i have a conundrum, my mom's netbook is in desperate need of an update past 11.04, but I can't install k3b or any other software to backup her data because her OS is so old, she doesn't have another method of backing up data, so what can I do?08:02
ActionParsnipuser123: did you MD5 test the iso you downloaded?08:03
ActionParsnipgartral: upgrade to 11.10, then to 12.0408:03
ActionParsnipgartral: its going to take a while08:03
ActionParsnipgartral: why is their no backup? Is her data not important to her?08:03
user123no..i have downloaded from torrent08:03
Deepfriedicegartral, tar -cf ?08:03
ActionParsnipuser123: what mdia are you installing with? CD? USB?08:04
gartralActionParsnip: she has 250 MB free on her hdd08:04
nimeshwhich distro is the best for ati redeon 9800 ?08:04
Kartagishrm, I've pinned according to the instructions in !pin. how do I get a pinned package rather than the default?08:05
user123i have not written it in any media....its currently on my desktop08:05
Kartagis!info cifs-utils precise08:05
ubottucifs-utils (source: cifs-utils): Common Internet File System utilities. In component main, is optional. Version 2:5.1-1ubuntu2 (precise), package size 63 kB, installed size 176 kB08:05
user123ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ md5sum Desktop/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso  8d72e2db7e72e13813731eab37a14d26  Desktop/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso varunendra08:05
varunendranimesh, all distros are going to more or less the same kernel hence the same drivers. So doesn't matter really.08:06
gartralActionParsnip: I really want to give her k3b through a PPA or some other backporting method so she can clear up her hdd08:06
nimeshok08:06
sandGorgonhi guys - I have a WD hard disk which is showing logical sector size as 512B vs physical sector size as 4096B. Can someone tell me how to set them both to 4096B ?08:06
ActionParsnipgartral: you may find a PPA, do you not have a dropbox account? Or space on your own PC she can dump her stuff to?08:06
nimeshis there a way to download the ati driver08:06
jtreminioHow would I run two command-line tests? test ! -d foo && -d bar08:07
gartralActionParsnip: my PC is 20 miles away08:07
ActionParsnip!ati | nimesh08:07
ubottunimesh: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto08:07
ActionParsnipgartral: could still run an SSH server and have her connect via SSHFS, secure copy all the way :)08:07
Deepfriedicegartral, what do you need k3b for? (and what is it?)08:07
nimeshi will see08:07
KartagisDeepfriedice: it's a cd burning utility08:07
gartralDeepfriedice: she needs too backup about 10 GB of data08:07
DeepfriediceActionParsnip, I don't think I would use SSHFS like that...08:08
ActionParsnipnimesh: unless its a 2xxx 3xxx or 4xxx ATi, then you want this: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx08:08
ActionParsnipDeepfriedice: why not?08:08
KartagisDeepfriedice: brasero is buggy08:08
ActionParsnipDeepfriedice: its a secure copy over WAN...08:08
qin_jtreminio: /j  #bash08:08
gartralActionParsnip: time, it's a netbook, and not very powerful, it transfers over ssh at about 500kb/s08:08
varunendrauser123, that md5sum is perfect. The image is fine.08:08
ActionParsnipgartral: could buy a 16Gb USB flash drive for the price of a pack of smokes..08:08
DeepfriediceKartagis: I think I would upgrade the OS before trying to install programs for her.08:09
ActionParsnipgartral: you then have a backup and can make periodic copies as you have an extra 6Gb to expand to08:09
gartralActionParsnip: in america? yea right, I spend $4 US on a pack of smokes08:09
KartagisDeepfriedice: I took the liberty to answer for gartral08:10
gartralbrb, she needs human mantinance08:10
ActionParsnipgartral: either way, its stupidly cheap08:10
nimeshok thanz for that info08:10
KartagisI've pinned according to the instructions in !pin. how do I get a pinned package rather than the default?08:10
ActionParsnipnimesh: sudo lshw -C display    will tell you the GPU08:11
tozenhi all! how can i disable to remove directory in ubuntu 12.04? as example ~/Downloads/New. thx08:11
nimeshi'm not in ubuntu at the moment08:11
PistolaHi, I'm having display issues with my Ubuntu 13.04 OS.  The brightness is low and I have tried for the last few months to fix it to no avail.08:12
user123varunendra: hmm...how to check md5 ? i am doing md5sum ---image--- its giving msd5 but when i am doing md5sum -c MD5SUM its giving error08:12
Deepfriedicetozen, What do you mean by "disable to remove directory"?08:13
qin_tozen: man chattr; man chattr08:13
varunendrauser123, just match the md5sum with the official list. I matched yours with mine - was a match.08:13
qin_tozen: lsattr and  chattr commands08:14
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user123varunendra: ok...anyways....I have some issues with wifi router configuration...help ?08:14
tozenDeepfriedice: well i've got files in directory and i want them to be kept om my machine with possibolity to delete only with some passkey or password08:15
varunendrauser123, perhaps. You in the problematic Ubuntu right now?08:15
jwuthere is so many thing happened in this week, a number of chinese linux distro just released.08:16
wooyhey, does ubuntu have read/write capability for NTFS?08:16
DJoneswooy: Yes it does08:16
jwuyes it does08:16
ActionParsnipuser123: your MD5sum is correct08:16
DJones!ntfs | wooy08:16
ubottuwooy: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE08:16
ActionParsnipwooy: yes08:16
Deepfriedicetozen, Your password, or the root password?08:16
ActionParsnipwooy: but Windows cannot write or read Ext4. Funny isn't it08:16
user123varunendra: no...ubuntu and router are perfectly fine....infact its the same router i want to configure through which i am chating with you right now08:16
varunendrauser123, is it the router's configuration or the system's local wifi problem?08:16
wooythats great, thank you guys08:17
user123ActionParsnip: ok thnx :)08:17
wooyActionParsnip: yeah i was missing this feature numerous times08:17
rcmaehlCan someone help me with http://i.imgur.com/4LD4uDQ.png08:17
gartralActionParsnip: another issue, WARNING: Failed to read mirror file08:17
tozenDeepfriedice: my password08:18
gartralher system hasn't been upgraded in forever08:18
ActionParsnipwooy: funny because the Ext4 specification is available to anyone, but theNTFS spec is only known fuly by Microsoft08:18
Deepfriedicercmaehl, Well THAT doesn't look good.08:18
gartralActionParsnip: I really need a way of making her system upgrade08:18
rcmaehlDeepfriedice, You don't say :P08:18
ActionParsnipgartral: yes because the repos for Natty are disabled08:18
ActionParsnip!eol | gartral08:18
ubottugartral: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades08:18
gartralActionParsnip: then how am I supposed to upgrade if I can't back up her data?08:19
user123varunendra: i can configure router in pppoe and bridge mode but not in pppoa and 1483 bridge mode (mer)....i wanna configure it in those 2 modes08:19
Deepfriedicetozen, That actually sounds fairly hard, generally you have full access to all your shit when you log in.08:19
varunendrauser123, you should try #networking then08:19
gartralActionParsnip: thank you for repeating the obvious, what's the fix that allows her too keep 2.5 years of work?08:20
DeepfriediceBest I could suggest is to give ownership to root then only give root write rights.08:20
user123varunendra: its invitation only and i tried ##networking yesterday no use08:20
Nmbr1Deepfriedice: tozen could chown the files or the directory and subfiles/folders to root or a different group08:20
tozenDeepfriedice: so here is no any solution? o_O08:20
Nmbr1Deepfriedice: good call ;)08:20
ActionParsnipgartral: all I can suggest is a backup (which she should have) then reinstall, you can upgrade using the Oneiric alternate ISO too08:20
gartralActionParsnip: HOW the HECK am I supposed to backup her data if she doesn't have burner software?!?!?!?!?!?!08:21
DeepfriediceNmbr1, Yeah, but then you would need root privileges to delete the directory. I guess that's still just your password if your the administrator.08:21
gartralActionParsnip: you know what. Screw it, I'll compress he3r /home and run an upgrade.08:22
Deepfriedicegartral, just package it as an ISO file then directly write it to the disk.08:22
Nmbr1Deepfriedice: yep unless you created a special account for that function and changed the ownership to that account rather than root08:22
DeepfriediceNmbr1, Still not tozen's privileges though.08:23
varunendrauser123, I don't even know what 1483 mode is. Besides, we'd surely be kicked out if we discussed that in here ;P08:23
surjikallol wat:08:23
surjikalhttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/08:23
surjikalthis is a valid url08:23
DeepfriediceWell that's new.08:24
g105bCan someone point me in the right direction for booting a computer via LAN to install 13.04 ?08:24
Kartagissorry for the repetition, but I've pinned according to the instructions in !pin. how do I get a pinned package rather than the default? cifs-utils in raring is buggy08:24
Nmbr1Deepfriedice: why would that be an issue? create a group (rmrights) tozen and the special account (we can call it "rmaccount") are members of. the files will be chown rmaccount:rmgights. rmrights has read access but rmaccount has read/write08:25
DeepfriediceKartagis, I'm not sure I understand you. Surely if you pinned a package then that's the version you have?08:25
ikoniag105b: do a quick search for pxeboot08:25
ikoniaKartagis: are you trying to mix packages between distros ?08:25
g105bikonia: thanks, just needed to know what to search for. May have questions later :)08:25
ikoniag105b: welcome to ask, but that should get you started08:25
Kartagisikonia: that's called pinning, no?08:25
ikoniaKartagis: no08:26
ikoniaKartagis: pinning should be used for versions within the same distro08:26
ikoniaKartagis: mixing package versions from version A and B is not a good move08:26
jlebrechany nice gui sql clients for gnome/kde?08:26
ikoniajlebrech: what SQL software are you trying to connect to ?08:26
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Kartagisikonia: then what to do if cifs-utils in raring is buggy?08:27
user123varunendra: no one is gonna be kicked out lol.....but surely words about the main topic for this channel....anyways lastly, do u know if indian isp's support 1483 and pppoa for individual customers ? and 1483 is dynamic/static ip configuration08:27
ikoniaKartagis: define "buggy"08:27
jlebrechikonia, percona (mysql)08:27
Deepfriedice!raring08:27
ubottuUbuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/ - Release notes: http://ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/13.0408:27
ikoniajlebrech: mysql workbench is a strong gui package08:27
jlebrechikonia, does it have a ppa?08:27
ikoniajlebrech: doesn't need a PPA, it's in the core repos08:27
joontyhey all, what's the best way to diagnose an apt-get update hanging?08:27
ikoniajoonty: where is it hanging ?08:28
Deepfriedicejoonty, reading the log files, probably.08:28
Kartagisikonia: I get Permission denied when I try to write to a smb share. I found a bug for that08:28
ikoniaKartagis: where is the bug?08:28
varunendrauser123, no idea about that. All I know that most ISPs charge extra for static IP. BSNL/MTNL included (although they don't often change IPs even on the normal connections)08:28
Kartagisikonia: one sec08:28
joontyikonia: it seems to be taking forever connecting to security.ubuntu.com08:29
ikoniajoonty: ok, so test that connection08:29
user123varunendra: ok thnx for ur time :)08:29
varunendranp :)08:29
Kartagisikonia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cifs-utils/+bug/111339508:29
ubottuUbuntu bug 1113395 in cifs-utils (Ubuntu) "mount.cifs on 13.04 fails to mount a samba share with 13: Permission Denied" [Undecided,Confirmed]08:29
ikoniaKartagis: ok, thats undecided, and that's failed to mount not "permission denied writing to a share"08:29
ikoniaKartagis: what is your EXACT problem08:30
Kartagisikonia: I connect a smb share through fstab, and I get permission denied when writing to it08:31
ikoniaKartagis: right, so tht is NOT that bug08:31
ikoniaKartagis: that bug is "failed to mount"08:31
joontyikonia: it happens with multiple IP addresses for the same security.ubuntu.com host, hence i interpreted it (quite possibly incorrectly) to not be a connection issue08:31
gartralDeepfriedice: oerhaps you don't understand, she doesn't HAVE an iso burner..08:31
ikoniaKartagis: your attention to detail is shocking again08:31
DeepfriediceKartagis, Did you use the "user" option?08:31
ikoniaDeepfriedice: when you mount the share can you show me the permissions on the file system please.08:32
Deepfriedicegartral, Do you mean a DVD burner, or the software to make ISO images?08:32
ikoniaDeepfriedice: oops sorry, not you08:32
KartagisDeepfriedice: let me show you the line: //mysu-dev/drupal7-dev             /mnt/mysu-dev        cifs        credentials=/root/.mtozses,uid=50028,gid=506    0    008:32
ikoniaKartagis: when you mount the share can you show me the permissions on the file system please.08:32
Kartagisikonia: one sec08:33
ikoniaKartagis: credenticals /root !!!!!08:33
jmarcushi all08:33
ikoniaKartagis: there should be nothing in /root on ubuntu08:33
gartralDeepfriedice: the software to write a dvd iso to a dvd08:33
Kartagisikonia: same thing in my $HOME08:33
ikoniaKartagis: so ?08:33
gartralDeepfriedice: I found a workaround08:33
Kartagisdrwxrwsr-x08:33
ikoniaKartagis: no, show me the permissions,08:34
gartralDeepfriedice: compress /home and run the upgrade as root08:34
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ikoniaKartagis: just run "ls -la /mnt/mysy-dev" and pastebin it please08:34
gartralDeepfriedice: that gave her 4 gb too work with08:34
Kartagisikonia: of the files?08:34
Deepfriedicegartral, I'm pretty sure that most archive tools can make ISO files.08:34
Kartagisone sec08:34
jmarcusDoes anyone knows about installation on cisco UCS with LUN ?08:35
llutzKartagis: ls -ld  /mnt/mysy-dev08:35
Deepfriedicegartral, What did you do with the compressed archive?08:35
gartralDeepfriedice: left it08:35
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Kartagisikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5880106/08:36
Deepfriedicegartral, On the HDD you ran the upgrade on!?08:36
garbageman_hi, need some help with ntp, on ubuntu 10.10  configured a master server and clients, when i ntpq - np i can see there's an offset but it keeps growing instead of getting smaller as docs say, anyone has expirience with this?08:36
ikoniaKartagis: looks at the UID/GID on that08:36
ikoniaKartagis: that UID/GID does not have a user mapped on your system !!!!08:36
Kartagisikonia: those are my values on the remote system08:37
ikoniaKartagis: so ??08:37
ikoniaKartagis: it's your LOCAL system08:37
gartralDeepfriedice: yea, her / and /home are on the same partitiion08:37
Kartagisikonia: there are 3 smb shares, and 1 of them is different, so editing my uid/gid is not an option08:38
Deepfriedicegartral, that doesn't sound particularly safe to me.08:38
ikoniaKartagis: then that is your problem08:38
ikoniaKartagis: not a bug - that's your bad planning08:38
gartralDeepfriedice: well.. it'll work, hopfully08:38
Kartagisikonia: the very same line used to work on 12.0408:39
ikoniaKartagis: again...so08:39
Deepfriedicegartral, is it already running?08:39
gartralDeepfriedice: yep..08:39
gartralDeepfriedice: well.. downloading08:39
Deepfriedicegartral, Well, I hope that the upgrade works fine then.08:40
joontyikonia: found it, the ipv6 addresses don't seem to accept connections, ipv4 work fine08:40
gartralDeepfriedice: well.. I've had good luck in the past...08:40
ikoniajoonty: superb, great find08:40
gartralDeepfriedice: also, her internet SUCKS08:40
Deepfriedicegartral, I probably sound a bit paranoid then: I've never had one work.08:40
gartralDeepfriedice: it's floating between 150kb/s and 300kb/s08:41
joontyikonia: thanks for your help08:42
varunendragartral, mine floats between 3KB/s to 6KB/s here .... ;P08:42
ikoniajoonty: you sorted yourself out, kudos to you08:42
_joeylooking for a free tabbed pdf viewer able to highlight and save highlighted text08:42
varunendraGPRS, with 'crippled' speed..08:42
_joey'tabbed' as in tabs08:42
PistolaCan anyone help me with my display issue?08:44
histoPistola: is this on a laptop?08:45
ActionParsnipgarbageman_: Maverick is EOL and no longer supported08:46
Kartagis*sigh*08:47
Kartagisikonia: is there no other way than editing my uid/gid? and how can I do that for all 3 shares08:48
Kartagis?08:48
Pistolahisto: no it's on a desktop08:49
studioHey guys i've got a problem. Rakkarack doesn't gives a distortion sound. What's wrong with it?08:50
DeepfriedicePistola, What Video card do you have?08:51
Pistolanot sure08:52
histoPistola: adjust your monitor then08:52
studioCome on I need help. It's stops my epic heavy metal recording album.08:52
studioalbum recording*08:52
Pistolawhen I adjust my monitor it leave it to red and after a while hurts my eyes. The dim display is killing me eye sight. I have searched on the forums with little success08:52
ActionParsnipPistola: what video chip?08:54
histoPistola: Is this an LCD screen?08:54
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DeepfriedicePistola, If it's a desktop, I don't see how the OS gets any say over the backlight.08:54
histostudio: what?08:54
studiou know, rakkarack - guitar processor.08:55
histostudio: I'd see if rakkarack has support or forums somewhere08:55
studioDistortion doesn't works. Forums aren't active, sad but true08:55
Pistolahisto: yes it is an LCD screen08:56
Deepfriedicestudio, When was the last version of this program released, and do you have any other audio issues?08:56
histoPistola: Why do you think ubuntu is causing your monitor backlight to not be as bright?08:56
PistolaActionParsnip: I don't know, how do I find out?08:56
DeepfriedicePistola, sudo lshw08:57
ActionParsnipPistola: sudo lshw -C display08:57
Pistolai'm not to good with terminal but i'll try08:57
studioOther effects works good, last version of this sofrware was released in 2010.08:57
histoActionParsnip: He's using an external monitor on a desktop machine afaik you can't control brightness via the display driver that way.08:57
ActionParsnipPistola: its copying and pasting text. What's not to 'be good' at exactly?08:57
XATRIXHi, i always see a red exclamation mark in a system tray, it tells me http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-16072013-115723.php08:58
XATRIXHow can i fix it ?08:58
Deepfriedicestudio, The problem is probably with the program then.08:58
ActionParsnipXATRIX: can you please pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get update08:58
XATRIXI have all the standard repositories that can be reached08:58
PistolaActionParsnip: understanding it08:58
XATRIXActionParsnip: sure, but there's no problem with apt-get update08:58
DeepfriediceSorry guys, I've got to go.08:58
XATRIXIt does updates smooth08:58
studioBut before distribution upgrade it's works nice.08:59
ActionParsnipPistola: we just need the product line08:59
ActionParsnipXATRIX: no warnings or errors?08:59
Pistolaproduct: G84 [GeForce 8600 GT]08:59
ActionParsnipPistola: did you install the nvidia-current package?09:00
XATRIXActionParsnip: http://ur1.ca/enxka09:00
PistolaActionParsnip: not that I'm aware of09:00
ActionParsnipPistola: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current09:00
dakotawulfyPistola use jockey gtk09:00
Pistoladakotawulfy: What is that?09:01
ActionParsnipXATRIX: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage09:01
theadminPistola: It's an old way of installing drivers in Ubuntu, was used up to 12.10. The functionality is built into software-properties-gtk since 13.0409:01
dakotawulfyPistola a driver utility   it will let u select what driver to use for your video card09:02
Pistolais it a program I install?09:02
theadminPistola: If you're using 12.10 or below, it comes preinstalled, search the main menu for "Additional Drivers". If you're on 13.04, you can go to System Settings -> Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers.09:03
surjikalbahh, us.archive.ubuntu.com is ultra slow on linode right now09:03
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XATRIXActionParsnip: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-16072013-120332.php09:03
dakotawulfyPistola open a terminal window and type jockey-gtk   see if it works09:03
PistolaI'm on 13.04, i'll do that now. However, the sudo apt-get install nvidia-current is currently installing09:03
XATRIXActionParsnip: so, i have to run that app ?09:03
theadminPistola: Eh, that does the exact same thing lol09:04
theadminPistola: Just automatically finds drivers for you, but if you already found them no point in using that app09:04
harshadurahi anybody can pls help me with ubottu setup inmy server09:04
histo!details | harshadura09:05
ubottuharshadura: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."09:05
dakotawulfyPistola well see if u have the nvidia  tool on your system09:05
Pistolalol, ok I was following ActionParsnip original instructions. Now what? Should I reboot? (p.s thx heaps for the help guys)09:05
harshadurahisto: i have installed supybot and install the encyopedia plugin on it09:05
histoharshadura: what?09:05
theadminPistola: Yeah, reboot after the driver is installed and it should work magically09:05
harshadurabut seems like it doesnt work as intended09:05
ActionParsnipXATRIX: close that app and software centre, then run the script I gave09:05
ikoniaKartagis: you need to plan things properly/better09:05
XATRIXActionParsnip: On it09:05
histoharshadura: no idea what supybot is09:05
harshadurahisto: ok09:06
ikoniaKartagis: or use a central authentication system such as ldap so all the uid/gid's match09:06
histoharshadura: are you gettw09:06
histoharshadura: are your getting a specific error?09:06
Pistolatheadmin: i feel sarcasm?09:06
Kartagisikonia: my organisation uses ldap09:06
ikoniaKartagis: yes, but you're not using it09:06
theadminPistola: Oh not at all, Ubuntu is great in that way09:06
Kartagisikonia: how do I do that?09:07
theadminPistola: Just saying that on other distros you have to configure stuff yourself often09:07
Pistolaok09:07
theadminPistola: But not on Ubuntu09:07
ikoniaKartagis: its not somethig I can write in 1 line - this is all research you should be doing before you implement things09:07
harshadurahisto: is there a way to remove sqlite3 and install sqlite209:07
harshadurain ec2 linux server09:07
histoharshadura: you could remove sqlite3 and install sqlite2 from source although I don't know why you want to... Doesn't make much sense09:08
Kartagisikonia: I'm not running the server, I'm just a client09:08
theadminharshadura: I'm pretty sure sqlite3 has all the features sqlite2 did, so I doubt that can cause problems09:08
Kartagisikonia: the admins use ldap09:08
harshadurahisto: in supybot python script it uses sqlite as the import but i have installed sqlite3 in my server09:08
harshaduraso it gives lots of errors09:08
histoharshadura: how did you install supybot from the repos?09:09
XATRIXActionParsnip: http://ur1.ca/enxoo that's the output of09:09
XATRIXIs it ok ?09:09
harshadurahisto: just using setup.py script09:09
vnc786hello all !!!09:09
vnc786can some one help me on this http://pastebin.com/q1wHn7hT  i have tried many solution but that didnt work i also copied all *config files* like status etc from working machine but that to didnt help where as i am able to do installation of packages09:10
histoharshadura: you should probably install the one from the repos as it's already configured to work using the software versions in the ubuntu repos09:10
ikoniaKartagis: are you managing/responsible for the host you are trying to mount the share on ?09:10
histo!info supybot | harshadura09:10
ubottuharshadura: supybot (source: supybot): robust and user friendly Python IRC bot. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.83.4.1.ds-2 (raring), package size 430 kB, installed size 2676 kB09:10
Kartagisikonia: yes09:10
ikoniaKartagis: right, and the other 2 machines you referenced, are you responsible for those ?09:10
harshadura!source09:11
ubottuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html09:11
harshadura!owner09:11
ubottuThis bot is owned by tsimpson and kindly hosted by Rackspace - http://rackspace.com/ - Questions about ubottu should be asked in #ubuntu-bots-team or #ubuntu-bots-devel09:11
Kartagisikonia: all 3 smb shares are supposed to be mounted on 1 client, my computer09:11
harshaduraok ;)09:11
wizrdvnc786: you could try 'sudo apt-get autoremove09:11
ikoniaKartagis: right, so either a.) make your workstation authenticate against the central AD or b.) make your local UID/GID match the network users UID/GID09:12
Pistolaok, the NVIDIA controls have appeared and I have increased power over the display settings09:12
vnc786wizrd: here is the result ---0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.09:12
Pistolathank you all for your help09:12
raventhunderbird: need to move or send rss/atom/... newsy to e-mail adress/account automatically but rules do not help really - any ideas how to do that?09:12
wayleoplop all09:12
publicjohnplop too09:13
wizrdvnc786: after autoremove?09:13
Kartagisikonia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication maybe?09:14
ikoniaKartagis: sure09:14
vnc786wizrd:  1) i am getting wordnet on terminal but  (2) when i did apt-get autoremove wordnet it says it is not installed09:15
studioCome on, I wouldn't start play blues!09:15
wizrdvnc786: autoremove is to purge unneeded files that stay behind09:16
steveccchi all - can anyone point me in the direction of a good guide - I have a hard disk and wish to rsync it to a spare external disk so that I have a backup and ideally I dont want to recopy the hard disk each time but rather keep them in sync09:16
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wizrdso you should use it like: 'sudo apt-get autoremove'09:16
wayleoman rsync ?09:17
Kartagisikonia: there is something I think you should know. everything runs smoothly if I connect through Nautilus. I shouldn't be able to do that if my client isn't authenticated, right?09:17
wizrdlooks like your package of google earth is broken09:17
somanANy simple http sniffer for ubuntu?09:17
Kartagisethereal | soman09:17
niktessoman: wireshark09:17
wayleotcpdump port 8009:17
Kartagis!ethereal | soman09:17
Kartagisright09:17
Kartagis!wireshark | soman09:17
niktessoman: webspy09:18
anthonyI'm in the UK and about to change my internet service provider - I have received the router from talktalk (the service provider) and whilst there are instillation instructions for windows and Mac o/s there is no mention of GNU/linux - does anyone know if I might get any issues or the whereabouts of any tutorials that might assist me connecting my router? _ I am using 12.04LTS09:19
vnc7861] are u saying to type only sudo apt-get autoremove on terminal if so i did that and result is same 2] every time i do some installation it gives me error09:19
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Kartagisikonia: http://paste.debian.net/16322/ <--- and this is the listing09:19
wizrdvnc786: can you tell me which steps you allready did?09:19
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ezra-santhony, most routers get configured through http frontend, so there's no difference in the OS you use to configure it really09:20
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vltanthony: Usually there’s no difference.09:20
wizrdvnc786: autoclean / reinstall of google-earth09:20
anthonydoes that mean it will plug and play ezra-s ?09:20
Kartagisanthony: you will most likely not run into issues09:21
ezra-santhony, routers are independent of the OS you use, unless you are not talking about a router, but a DSL modem or something like that09:21
somanwhy can't I use dumcap? I use 'sudo dumpcap -w sniff' and get error 'The file to which the capture would be saved ("./sniff") could not be opened: Permission denied.'09:22
ezra-santhony, think of a router like a different pc, but this pc is really small and has an embedded OS09:22
anthonyor do I use the discit's a D-Link DSL-3680 router ezra_s09:22
vnc786wizrd:  1] apt-get purge wordnet --which showed me that it will remove 3 wordnet* package 2] but on terminal i m still getting wordnet also my main concerns is that09:23
anthonyit's a D-Link DSL-3680 router ezra_s09:23
ezra-santhony, I don't know that one but I'm sure you can access it with something similar to http://192.168.1.1 from your favourite browser if you need/want any configuring09:23
anthonydo I run the instillation disc then anyway09:23
vnc786how do i remove this error message whereas i can do installation of small packages09:23
ezra-santhony, read the manual first09:23
anthonylol09:23
power_offsoman: try 'tshark'09:23
wizrdvnc786: in the pastbin I see you try to remove google-earth. Now you're talking about wordnet. Do you get there errors on several packages?09:25
somanpower_off: I get such error with tshark09:25
anthonyThanks for the assistance - I understand the basics and can translate the windows instructions - cheers09:27
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drasko__Is possible to scan the network for oter APs when card is in AP mode ? Here are my ifconfig and iwconfig outputs : http://pastebin.com/YZ1y58Ej09:29
drasko__It looks like hostapd is preventing the scan09:30
vnc786wizrd: here is the long version first i installed google earth 64 bit like this dpkg -i googleearth.deb it showed me error(echo $? = 127) but i was getting google-earth on terminal when i type google-earth so i did apt-get remove google-earth which removed google earth but you09:30
vnc786can see in pastbin that there are so many  errors which i want to get rid off09:30
thunder1212hi09:32
thunder1212i have installed ubuntu12.04. i want to install kde what shoul i do?09:32
AlexandreMBMHello! Why no "right click" panels on Gnome Classic (effects less) [Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS]?09:32
AlexandreMBMthunder1212, kubuntu-desktop?09:33
cristian_cHi09:33
cristian_cI can't hear sound from speakers/headphone anymore09:33
DJones!kde | thunder121209:33
ubottuthunder1212: KDE (http://kde.org) is an open community that creates and maintains software including the Plasma desktop.  To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install  kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See  http://kubuntu.org for more information.09:33
thunder1212AlexandreMBM: kde09:33
cristian_cI don't know how to restore it09:34
cristian_cAny ideas?09:34
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thunder1212DJones: will installin kubuntu remove ldm and use kdm instead?09:35
AlexandreMBMcristian_c, if you did kernel update, try to know changes in modules loads09:35
drasko__Is possible to scan the network for oter APs when card is in AP mode ? Here are my ifconfig and iwconfig outputs : http://pastebin.com/YZ1y58Ej09:36
drasko__It looks like hostapd is preventing the scan09:36
DJonesthunder1212: No, if you just install the kde-desktop package, you'll be able to select either option at the login menu09:36
cristian_cAlexandreMBM, no, before is worked with the same kernel09:36
cristian_c:)09:36
cristian_c*it09:36
AlexandreMBMcristian_c, updates others?09:37
cristian_cAlexandreMBM, classic system updates09:37
wizrdvnc786: looks like you installed the package without then needed dependencies. You could try to reinstall it09:37
cristian_cAlexandreMBM, I've found s/pdif out in pavucontrol09:37
thunder1212DJones: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE >> there the third option says it will install kde??09:37
wizrdvnc786: sudo apt-get install --reinstall google-earth09:37
AlexandreMBMcristian_c, see the mixers09:37
cristian_cAlexandreMBM, and some strange controls in alsamixer09:38
AlexandreMBMcristian_c, and if it is a bad contact in plugs09:38
wizrdvnc786: After that do a apt-get remove google-earth09:38
cristian_cAlexandreMBM, in live it works09:38
AlexandreMBMcristian_c, "in live"?09:38
cristian_clive cd09:38
DJonesthunder1212: Thats what you want isn't it? It doesn't remove the desktop you already have installed, it just adds kde as a 2nd desktop09:39
MonkeyDustwizrd  i havent followed, problems with search in geoogle earth?09:39
MonkeyDustvnc786  ^^^^09:39
wizrdMonkeyDust: nah. problems removing after dpkg install09:39
wizrdMonkeyDust: http://pastebin.com/q1wHn7hT09:40
MonkeyDustwizrd  try sudo apt-get autoremove09:40
thunder1212DJones: (iii) kde-plasma-desktop --- This will install the core -- the bare-minimum required-- of KDE. That is, kdebase-apps, kdebase-runtime, kdebase-workspace and kdm.09:41
wizrdMonkeyDust: Has been done09:41
MonkeyDustwizrd  then maybe in synaptic, remove residual config09:41
cristian_cDoes anyone has any ideas?09:41
wizrdps. vnc786 is the one with the trouble09:41
DJonesthunder1212: As it says, that is the minimum for kde, if you want all the kde apps & desktop extras, you have to install one of the other options09:42
MonkeyDustvnc786   then maybe in synaptic, remove residual config09:42
DJonesthunder1212: I don't use KDE so possibly better just asking the channel in general as to the differences between the options09:42
drasko__Is possible to scan the network for oter APs when card is in AP mode ? Here are my ifconfig and iwconfig outputs : http://pastebin.com/YZ1y58Ej09:42
vnc786wizrd: how do i get rid of that all messages OR do i have to remove or reinstall all mention packages in that error09:43
aanhalllo09:43
g105bJust installed 13.04 without a network connection, now when I apt-get update it takes forever. It's been sat there over an hour now trying to update the sources.09:43
wizrdvnc786: usually when you install with apt-get it will install all needed dependencies automatically09:44
amatsukamizi ppl09:44
amatsukamizhow can i intall adminer?09:44
Nmbr1g105b: that will happen, if you aren't getting errors just wait and let it finish. the next time you run it it shouldn't take as long09:44
g105bah ok ... but seriously, over an hour?09:45
wizrdaan: this is an english channel09:45
g105bamatsukamiz: you don't install it, it's just a single script - that's the point.09:45
Nmbr1it could. it will depend on what repositories, your bandwidth, how many packages are installed.....09:46
g105bamatsukamiz: you just download the script and serve it as a normal webpage via your webserver.09:46
g105bNmbr1: hmm, ok I'll wait and see. thanks.09:46
amatsukamizdo i run on terminal  sudo apt-get install adminer?09:46
vnc786wizrd: but package name like lib* xscreen* how can i do that ?09:47
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wizrdvnc786: do what?09:48
wizrdmost lib* are libraries09:48
power_offamatsukamiz: why don't you search first, if its available? try `sudo apt-cache search *adminer*'09:48
wizrdif needed by another package and it needs to be installed it will be installed09:48
wizrdand if you have installed a package with dpkg and it fails on dependencies you could try: 'sudo apt-get install -f'09:49
vnc786wizrd: thanks for reply  honestly speaking i am facing this issue for last couple of month and now i am tried because due to that message coming on my terminal normally packages like htop, etc get installed by apt-get install command but that message keeps coming09:53
amatsukamizthanks ppl its working now09:53
wizrdvnc786: try the last command: sudo apt-get install -f09:54
wizrdIt should reinstall failing dependencies09:54
curatrixHi all I am installing mint onto a friends c700 HP. I normally go for the LTS. Is it worth making the jump to 15 or should I stick with 13?   Votes please09:55
Deepfriedicecuratrix, What's the support period on those?09:56
vnc786wizrd: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.  --here is the result09:56
wilee-nilee!mint > curatrix09:57
ubottucuratrix, please see my private message09:57
k1lcuratrix: you are in the wrong channel for mint support09:57
AlexandreMBMmy answer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/195251/add-to-panel-not-working-in-gnome-classic-on-12-0409:57
* curatrix kicks himself 09:58
curatrixsorry all09:58
wizrdvnc786: check this page out: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9320109:58
wizrdmight help09:58
Deepfriedicevnc786, When did things start to fail?09:58
AlexandreMBMWIN + ALT + Right Click10:00
vnc786Deepfriedice: after i was trying to install team viewer(through ubunut-software-center) but after that i recovered but again it has arised still10:00
AlexandreMBMI did want "Show Desktop". It is OK now.10:00
AlexandreMBMor only ALT + Right Click10:02
Deepfriedicevnc786, What if you just delete everything in /var/apt/cache/ ?10:03
vnc786Deepfriedice: wizrd: i just created new status file in /var/lib/dpkg/ i have mv to old file and apt-get -f install show 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.10:03
vnc786Deepfriedice:  i am on ubuntu 12.04 64 bit & i am not having /var/apt  folder do  you mean /var/lib/apt/ but i cannot find cache folder10:06
Deepfriedicevnc786, My bad. The path is /var/cache/apt/archives/10:08
vnc786Deepfriedice:  got that10:08
vnc786Deepfriedice: yes a part of my troubleshooting i just renamed the /var/cache/apt/archive folder to oldarchive some days ago10:12
Slingi want to permanently add a bunch of IP's (both ipv4 and ipv6, and also some on the lo device) to an ubuntu 12.04 box, and want it boot-proof, what is currently the recommended way to do this?10:12
Slingaliasses in /etc/network/interfaces ?10:12
Ben64what do you mean boot-proof10:12
Slingactually I mean them being applied and removed on ifup and ifdown10:13
vnc786Deepfriedice: do you want me to delete from cache dir or archive dir10:13
Deepfriedicevnc786, Not sure what you mean.10:14
DeepfriediceI just figured getting rid of all the old crap would make finding the problem easier.10:14
Slingi see I can also use IPADDR_START and IPADDR_END for sequences10:14
xeorexHi, I am having difficulties with a new user I created. The command line style is very different than the one for the default ubuntu user. Up and Tab are not working. How can I make the new user user command line with the same style than the default ubuntu user? I don't know how to search this on Google. The results are not I am looking for.10:16
vnc786should i rename cache dir ? because i have already tried with archive dir but that didnt help in oldarchive dir i can see list of packages10:16
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Deepfriedicevnc786, "sudo rm -Rf /var/cache/apt/", but I'm not sure if it will help.10:19
ezra-sxeorex, do a cat /etc/passwd make sure the user is using the shell you are expecting, that is /bin/bash under ubuntu10:19
Deepfriedicevnc786, Hang on.10:20
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Deepfriedicevnc786, Don't do that.10:21
ezra-svnc786, /var/cache/apt/archives is where previously downloaded packages reside so if you need to "re-install" they don't have to be downloaded again, why do you want to remove that?10:21
ActionParsniptried my fixpackage script :)10:21
xeorexezra-s, thanks a lot. Sport on.10:22
xeorexSpot on, even10:22
ezra-shehe10:22
ezra-sI'll try doing some running tonight, thank you :D10:22
vnc786ezra-s: because i am trying to solve this http://pastebin.com/q1wHn7hT for couple of months and now for last 1/2 hour Deepfriedice wizrd  is helping me on that10:24
ezra-slet me check see if I can help10:24
Deepfriedicevnc786, What package management tool do you normally use?10:25
ezra-ssh*t10:25
vnc786ezra-s:  FYI before you proceed i just want to get rid of that packages errors which are coming every time10:26
DeepfriediceAlso, I think I may have just broken my own system now.10:26
zeroXtenwhats the debsecan / yum-plugin-security alternative for ubuntu?10:26
vnc786Deepfriedice: i am always  with apt-get install10:26
ezra-svnc786, I saw that same thing the other day.. if you must know the only way I found to solve it was... sudo apt-get purge each of those mentioned packages and some apt-get -f install in between10:27
g105bNmbr1: hey apt-get update completed, doing it again is just as slow :/10:27
Nmbr1g105b: have you restarted?10:27
g105bNmbr1: yeah10:27
Nmbr1hmm... is it every repository that is slow or only some?10:27
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g105bevery. it keeps on saying "something wicked happened"10:28
ezra-svnc786, until I purged those I couldn't do normaly installing or other operations with packages10:28
wilee-nileeyou can change the repo in software sources, there is a fastest ping option.10:30
Nmbr1g105b: does it say, "Something wicked happened resolving xxx:http"....10:30
vnc786ezra-s: but i can do normal package installation/uninstallation  like htop etc10:30
Nmbr1g105b: if it fails to resolve it could be a problem with dns10:30
ezra-svnc786, lucky you.. but if you still want to get rid of those messages....10:31
vnc786ezra-s: yes10:31
ezra-sapt-get purge thempackages10:31
g105bNmbr1: yeah that's what it says. I can access the internet fine though.10:32
DeepfriediceWell, shit.10:32
Nmbr1g105b: try the second to last solution at http://askubuntu.com/questions/310131/something-wicked-happened-error-in-apt-get10:32
DeepfriediceI'm glad vnc786 didn't follow my advice, I think I just broke apt on my own system.10:32
ezra-sDeepfriedice, ouch10:33
wizrdDeepfriedice: ouch10:33
ezra-slol10:33
vnc786Deepfriedice:  :)10:33
vnc786Deepfriedice:  :(10:33
ezra-svnc786, are you already purging those packages that give the warning?10:33
DeepfriediceYeah, Ouch. apt-get update doest't get beyond "100% [Waiting for headers]"10:34
ezra-sDeepfriedice, that sounds like the old proxy bug in apt10:34
Deepfriediceezra-s, hmm?10:34
g105bNmbr1: worked!10:35
g105bNmbr1: This was a fresh install though ... what could have caused it?10:35
Nmbr1g105b: awesome!10:35
Nmbr1g105b: not sure sometimes things are just messed up10:35
DeepfriediceWait, It just made a bit more progress then stopped. I am confused.10:36
ezra-sDeepfriedice, long ago.. in a certain work location, waiting for headers would last forever ... I was being transparent-proxied to internet, and I had to add a certain options to apt.conf to avoid being cached and thus avoid waiting for headers forever..10:36
Nmbr1g105b: if it was a fresh install there shouldn't be anything missing but i'm glad it works10:36
ezra-sDeepfriedice, let me check my solution from back then, you might be suffering the same10:36
Deepfriediceezra-s, I don't believe am am behind a proxy though....10:36
fosser_josh1synergy segmentation fault when i run synergy -f and gives  error "2013-07-16T11:33:48 WARNING: primary screen unavailable: unable to open screen"10:36
vnc786ezra-s: i tried with wordnet package i did this 1] apt-get purge wordnet which showed me that it will removed wordent pac 2] but i was still getting wordnet in CLI10:37
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ezra-sDeepfriedice, if you are behind a proxy or transparent proxy go to cd /etc/apt/apt.conf.d and then add this in a 80http file - > http://apaste.info/9jts10:38
Deepfriediceezra-s, I'm not behind a proxy. However, it is making occasional progress, so the fault may just be with crappy Telstra internet.10:38
ezra-svnc786, it makes sense.. for some odd reason apt/dpkg thinks the package you installed is empty and there is no resitry of files installed, purge every one of them and then reinstall and then you can remove them for real if needed10:39
ezra-sDeepfriedice, yes, crappy internet , slow mirror ......or you are really being transparent-proxied in this last case what I mentioned is a good solution10:40
Deepfriediceezra-s, scew this, I didn't spend my time setting this up to watch this. I'll just wipe everything and get apt working again.10:42
ezra-s:P10:43
vnc786ezra-s:  thanks for that so wouldn't be nice that i do re-installation considering that i am on this issue for last couple of months :)10:44
moxziehi i am new in this irc10:45
ezra-svnc786, re-installation of "packages", it is not that hard get those names in a single line apt-get purge them and if you really need them do the apt-get install again and if you don't apt-get install apt-get purge again10:45
ezra-safter spending a month this sounds like a 10 minute work10:45
ezra-sbut... do as you please.. ofc10:45
ezra-sIf I were you I would like to know which caused that in the first place too10:46
DeepfriediceOkay, I think I fixed my shit. How's vnc786 doing?10:47
vnc786ezra-s: i am with you what you are saying10:47
vnc786Deepfriedice: i am still there stuck10:48
Deepfriediceokay.10:48
vnc786ezra-s:  considering what you say how can i get every package name from this http://pastebin.com/q1wHn7hT10:51
Deepfriedicevnc786, Do you ever use Synaptic?10:51
vnc786Deepfriedice: what was that which solved the issue ?10:51
vnc786nope10:51
Deepfriedicevnc786, Which issue?10:52
vnc786the one with apt-get ?10:52
Nmbr1vnc786: can you apt-get purge, open synaptic, reinstall all google earth and then remove all google earth?10:52
DeepfriediceNmbr1, Just use the reinstall option.10:53
ezra-svnc786, awk works wonders the names seem to be in position $810:54
ezra-sbut I'm not an expert in awk to make you script right now in 30 seconds for you10:54
g105bHow do I add icons to the unity launcher from terminal?10:54
ezra-syou can copy and paste names manually, they aren't that many ;P10:54
Deepfriedicevnc786, That was just the Australian server being nuts. Once I switched to the main server, everything was fine.10:55
MonkeyDustg105b  plenty tutorials, here's one http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/create-application-launcher-add-icon-to-unity-ubuntu-12-10/10:56
g105bMonkeyDust: I can only find tuts like the one you linked, which doesn't tell me how to do it from the terminal - it requires dragging with the mouse10:57
g105bReally what I'm asking for is where does Unity hold its launcher settings ?10:57
wilee-nileeg105b, some here as well.10:58
ActionParsnipg105b:  xdg-desktop-menu install --novendor /path/to/programname.desktop10:58
wilee-nileehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles10:58
ActionParsnipg105b: source: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197241010:58
MonkeyDustg105b  scroll don, point 2.   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=196286210:59
MonkeyDustdown*11:00
vnc786ezra-s: okay i have got all package name in pac.txt file can i do apt-get purge pac.txt11:02
ActionParsnipvnc786: sudo apt-get install `cat pac.txt`11:02
MonkeyDusti use cat pac.txt|xargs sudo apt-get install11:03
blazemorevnc786: sudo apt-get purge `cat pac.txt` (those are backticks, the key to the left of 1 on my keyboard)11:03
blazemoreMonkeyDust: That works too, so do I actually11:03
blazemoreMonkeyDust: But then I also do "cat filename | grep foo" rather than "grep foo filename"11:04
ezra-svnc786, you can also try something like for i in `cat pac.txt`; do apt-get purge -y $i; done11:04
ezra-s"for...11:05
ezra-sif you have them all in one line that for won't be necessay11:05
Deepfriedicesudo apt-get purge $(cat pac.txt)11:05
ezra-swhile `cat pac.txt` != ""; do11:06
ezra-slol11:06
vnc786ezra-s:  http://pastebin.com/jaihpsR011:06
ikoniaKartagis: you are mounting via nutailus using fuse and your LOCAL user, when you are setting the mount in fstab you are setting it to NON EXISTANT users, do you see the difference ?11:07
Kartagisikonia: yes11:07
ezra-svnc786, mmm, you still getting the warnings after you try to use apt-get for any other operation?11:08
Deepfriedice"Package $WHATEVER is not installed, so not removed", Well that's kinda interesting.11:10
BluesKajHey folks11:11
afflictoHey all. whenever I write code in sublime text 2. I sometimes endup with strange non-utf8 characters. like "Â" and it breaks my code. This never ever happens on windows. why?11:12
ezra-svnc786, hello?11:12
vnc786yes11:12
ezra-svnc786, do you still get the warnings when using apt-get for anything else?11:12
vnc786checked with apt-get install htop11:12
ezra-sand...?11:12
Deepfriedice~~~suspense~~~~11:13
power_offhas anybody tried, `sudo rm -fr /` ?11:14
ezra-sI'm sure he is screwing it up again so he can keep chatting with us :o)11:14
icerootpower_off: stop that11:14
icerootpower_off: and its not working11:14
Deepfriedicepower_off: piss off back to /g/11:15
icerootDeepfriedice: stop that too11:15
vnc786ezra-s:  yes it is giving same error as previously posted in pastebin should i give it to you it is same11:15
ezra-smmmm...11:15
Deepfriediceiceroot, sorry.11:15
Deepfriedicevnc786, What if you tried to install those packages?11:16
ezra-svnc786, select one of those in the warning... do apt-get install on it ... and re-check if it still appears on the list11:16
ezra-sDeepfriedice, yes! I agree :)11:16
vnc786ezra-s:  Deepfriedice : wait i just got i have created new status file in /var/lib/dpkg/ i have restored the old one and now apt-get purge `pac.txt` show that it will remove list of packages11:18
ezra-syou touched /var/lib/dpkg earlier?11:19
ezra-s:O11:19
ezra-syou like to live on the edge that's for sure :P11:19
Ben64you should have mentioned that you messed with important files. also... you shouldn't mess with important files11:19
snufftI've been having an intermittant sound issue in 13.04. is there a way to restart audio?11:19
ezra-syes, /var/lib/dpkg is sacred11:20
Deepfriedicesnufft, just fire up your favourite task manager and kill pulseaudio.11:20
DeepfriediceIt's not a "fix", but it will bring it back if something breaks it.11:21
snufftDeepfriedice, thanks heaps. worked great!11:22
Ben64my solution to audio problems is to remove pulseaudio11:22
snufftDeepfriedice++11:22
snufftBen64, it hasn't quite annoyed me enough to do that just yet :P it probably breaks once every week or so?11:22
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DeepfriediceBen64, Yes, well. Linux Audio.11:22
BluesKajsnufft, install pavucontrol , it will solidfy your input and output settings11:22
Ben64snufft: if it ever does annoy you too much, use "sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio" ... don't do "purge"11:23
vnc786Ben64: was that for me yes i did mention but lost in conversation ezra-s: apt-get purge is removing my other packages which are not in file i fear to proceed ..11:23
ezra-svnc786, if you are in a production machine... review what's going to be removed first11:23
Ben64vnc786: why are you trying to purge all that stuff anyway11:24
ezra-svnc786, I assumed it is a desktop box or that you have full control over it, if you get something you need removed you can always reinstall, but if you are in a procution environment... well, thats offtopic11:24
snufftBluesKaj, thanks heaps :) Installing it now :)11:24
snufftBen64, haha, no worries, will do! Thanks :)11:25
ezra-sBen64, I suggested him that because we was getting warnings about them from dpkg.. like a screwed up installed database, but I didn0t know he had touched /var/lib/dpkg11:25
ezra-sI supposed if you force complete removal database state would return to normal11:26
DeepfriediceI would consider trying to bring dpkg back to a "out of the box" state.11:27
Guest55405Hi, can I remove the global menu WITHOUT breaking the HUD?11:31
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ActionParsnipGuest55405: http://lifehacker.com/5887462/how-to-disable-ubuntus-annoying-global-menu-bar11:33
ActionParsnipGuest55405: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/global-menu-off-switch-wont-land-in-12-0411:34
Guest55405ActionParsnip: Will break the HUD11:34
ActionParsnipGuest55405: break ni what way?11:36
vnc786Deepfriedice:  ezra-s  finally  the bunch of  errors are not coming coming  thanks folks11:39
Deepfriedicevnc786, Awesome!11:39
ezra-svnc786, so.. finally. what did it?11:44
vnc786ezra-s:  now when i do apt-get install <package name> it is not showing this http://pastebin.com/q1wHn7hT11:45
ezra-svnc786, I'm asking.. what did you do to solve it!?11:46
Guest55405ActionParsnip: it does not work11:46
Guest55405simply as that11:46
ActionParsnipGuest55405: so does not show11:46
Guest55405it stops working11:46
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ActionParsnipGuest55405: shows wrong data?11:47
Guest55405ActionParsnip: it does show, but it dont work11:47
Guest55405the HUD shows NOTHING11:47
ActionParsnipGuest55405: so thehud shows but is empty?11:47
ActionParsnip*the hud11:47
Guest55405ActionParsnip: yea11:48
vnc786as  you said  i just put all the packages name in one file and apt-get  purge `cat <file name> `11:48
ActionParsnipGuest55405: clarity is key in IT dude, your OS is a complex piece of software so saying "doesn't work" means near zero11:48
Guest55405ActionParsnip: so, can i remove the global menu without a fucked hud ?11:49
clue_hthe hud on my machine remains empty til i search it Guest5540511:49
clue_hin it/811:49
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Guest55405clue_h: yea, but when i saerch it, it's totally empty11:50
Guest55405if i install the global menu, it works again11:50
ActionParsnipGuest55405: http://askubuntu.com/questions/10481/how-do-i-disable-the-global-application-menu   try the shared library hiding suggested by valadao11:51
Guest55405ActionParsnip: i will11:51
ActionParsnipGuest55405: or remove it as usual then install gnome-do, it does the stuff the hud does11:52
Guest55405gnome-do?11:52
thunder1212i want to increase my laptop battery life in ubuntu 12.0411:52
Guest55405never heard of it11:52
Deepfriedicethunder1212, look into powertop.11:53
thunder1212Deepfriedice: what after that?11:53
Guest55405thunder1212: Install TLP: http://linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-linux-advanced-power-management.html11:53
thunder1212Deepfriedice: and will installing jupiter and lapto-mode tools help?11:53
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MaposHi, I am sorry I am bothering you all, but can anyone recommend me any linux os? I have tested some but I am not satisfied with any of them.11:54
DeepfriediceI've never tried Jupiter, and I don't know as much about laptop-mode as I should11:54
ActionParsnipGuest55405: search the web, very powerful tool is gnome-do11:54
Guest55405Mapos: Ubuntu?11:55
MaposNope :D11:55
ActionParsnipthunder1212: run a lighter DE like LXDE of XFCE, it labours the CPU less and will extend battery life11:55
MaposUbuntu sucks :D11:55
DeepfriediceMapos, This is probably the wrong place for that, but look at Distrowatch and wikipedia pages until you find something you like.11:55
clue_hhmm11:55
ActionParsnipMapos: this is support, please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##cafe-ubuntu11:55
MaposTHx11:55
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thunder1212ActionParsnip: i have installed lxde but there is no power meter in it?11:56
Deepfriedicethunder1212, I will second ActionParsnip's suggestion of a different DE. Unity isn't particularly light, and it make a big difference to battery life.11:56
thunder1212ActionParsnip: or would installing lubuntu be more advisable?11:57
thunder1212Deepfriedice: ok11:57
ActionParsnipthunder1212: do you mean for battery level?11:57
thunder1212Deepfriedice: or install lubuntu?11:57
thunder1212ActionParsnip: yes..11:57
ActionParsnipthunder1212: sure there is, you can add it on the lxpanel11:57
Deepfriedicethunder1212, Lubuntu is just ubuntu with LDXE installed. It makes no difference how you get it.11:57
ActionParsnipthunder1212: you just need the lxde package and you will get the session11:58
Nmbr1_buffer -111:58
thunder1212ActionParsnip: Deepfriedice Ok i have installed the package and i am in the lxde session rightnow. How about gnome-2d with no effects?11:59
DeepfriediceGnome is pretty big these days too.11:59
DeepfriediceI would stick to XFCE, LDXE, or pure WM's if you really wan't to "cut the fat".11:59
ActionParsnipthunder1212: that is lighter too12:00
thunder1212ok ..  guess i will just stick to lxde and i think its litghter than xfce12:00
ActionParsnipthunder1212: it is slightly lighter12:00
thunder1212Deepfriedice: what is pure wm?12:00
ActionParsnipthunder1212: if you right click the panel to add items, there is a battery indicator12:00
ActionParsnipthunder1212: pure wm = running openbox or fluxbox etc on its own, no desktop environment12:01
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thunder1212ActionParsnip: so is it without gui?12:01
ActionParsnipthunder1212: it has a GUI, just no DE. The WM gives you the GUI12:01
thunder1212ActionParsnip: you mean like running openbox only right12:02
ActionParsnipthunder1212: I run just openbox, but I use tint2 as a panel12:02
ActionParsnipthunder1212: yes, just openbox alone. super light12:02
thunder1212ActionParsnip: ok will be back in a minute..12:02
ActionParsnipthunder1212: http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tr/contentPics/techrepublic_fluxbox_desktop.jpg   super bare fluxbox session12:03
DeepfriediceAnyway, I'm going to crash for the night.12:05
DeepfriediceNight all.12:05
philuk2000Help! I cant get rid of Apache!!! I remove it but it's still there sitting on port 80 so I cant install lighttpd! I have tried sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2 but it's still listening, I get the webserver installed page back when I http to 127.0.0.1 WHY???12:06
Guest55405ActionParsnip: VALADAO?12:06
Guest55405opps caps12:06
Guest55405ActionParsnip: The file doesnt exists12:09
elitai am unable to access net on ubuntu which is estabilished on vmware although its showing connection estabilished. can anyone please tell what should i configure besides dhcp and ip?12:10
elitai am unable to access net on ubuntu which is estabilished on vmware although its showing connection estabilished. can anyone please tell what should i configure besides dhcp and ip?12:10
nzeeGetting this "Error: .ini file does not include supervisorctl section" for 'supervisorctl restart all' What am I missing?12:11
bgardnerelita: Can you ping your gateway?12:11
Guest55405ActionParsnip: apt-file found this12:12
Guest55405indicator-appmenu: /usr/lib/indicators3/7/libappmenu.so12:12
Guest55405indicator-appmenu-gtk2: /usr/lib/indicators/7/libappmenu.so12:12
tgagreetings12:12
tgais there a stand alone app that properly supports MTP?12:12
* tga is trying to move files to an Android phone12:12
elita_bgardner, yes12:13
elita_i cannot ping google though12:13
DJonestga: You could look into gMTP although I found it wasn't that good on 12.10 and earlier, I found the best method was to install airdroid on the the phone and then user a web browser in Ubuntu12:14
bgardnerelita_: Can you ping 74.125.225.211 ?12:14
xroHi, i just configurer a bonding... Is that normal i get  the ip address in bond0 and eth0 (eth1 is down for the moment)?12:14
xroI use actif-backup type12:14
bgardnerphiluk2000: Did you reboot yet?12:15
tgaDJones: I was hoping for something like android file transfer for OSX12:15
elita_bgardner, no12:15
ikoniaxro: they are not down - but they won't have IP's12:15
HumanSlimere-pet12:15
DJonestga: Since 13.04 I've not needed a standalone app, I just use Nautilus now that the drivers have been updated12:15
sarahkittyRhythmbox tells me I need some mpeg decoder to run .mp3 files... What can I put into the terminal to fix this?12:15
tgaDJones: 13.04 here, and when I try to write a file to the phone I get 'Back end doesn't support this'12:16
DJonestga: I've no idea what would be comparable to that OSX app12:16
bgardnerelita_: Are you certain that your gateway is correctly configured?12:16
elita_yes i checked ipconfig|less and it was automatically configured by dhcp12:16
MonkeyDustsarahkitty  install restricted-extras12:16
DJonestga: I've not come across that, it might be worth filing a bug, what android version/phone is it, I use a Galaxy S3 and haven't had any issues12:16
xroikonia, my status is : bond0 up with an IP, eth0 up with an IP , eth1 not connected for the moment... Is that normal bond0 & eth0 have an IP ? in actif-backup mode12:17
tgaDJones: GNex 4.2.2 here12:17
elita_i used the same gateway that i was using on windows12:17
bgardnerelita_: No, I mean are you certain the the machine indicated as your gateway is in fact operating as a gateway?12:17
ikoniaxro: no12:17
sarahkittyThank you12:17
xroikonia, what i thought... have you an idea why?12:17
bgardnerelita_: Okay.  Can you ping other hosts on your local network?12:18
elita_bgardner, i did not get you. the gateway is given by the service provider12:18
ikoniaxro: come on, how can I have any idea why when you've given me zero information12:18
ikoniaxro: my toes hurt, do you know why ?12:18
xroikonia, you probably walk on something ....12:18
ikoniaxro: how do you know, I've given you no information12:18
BluesKajtga, check out Cantata , think there's a ppa12:18
ikoniaxro: if you want ehlp, you'll need to provide details12:19
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tgaBluesKaj: thanks, checking it out12:19
DJonestga: I'm afraid I can't offer any other suggestions12:19
xroikonia, i did exactly --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding  and changed lacp by actif-backup12:19
tgaDJones: thanks anyway12:19
elita_bgardner, yes12:19
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ikoniaxro: pastebin your interfaces file12:20
BluesKajtga, I see it in the package manager12:20
bgardnerelita_: Can you ping the nameserver provided by your ISP?12:20
ikoniabgardner: what does "ping" prove ?12:20
thunder1212ActionParsnip: hi12:21
tgaBluesKaj: uh Cantata is a MPD client, what does it have to do with MTP file transfers12:21
bgardnerikonia: Ping proves network connectivity and configuration, which the user is asking about.12:21
ikoniabgardner: no it doesn't12:21
ikoniabgardner: ICMP is not a poof of connectivity or lack of it12:22
xroikonia --> http://dpaste.com/130526912:22
bgardnerikonia: You want to take over here?12:22
elita_bgardner, i am using ubuntu on vmware. d only connected host is my windows os12:22
thunder1212ActionParsnip: i am in openbox session12:22
elita_bgardner, yes i can ping gateway and dns12:22
ikoniabgardner: not really12:22
xroikonia, looks good no?12:22
BluesKajtga, http://news.softpedia.com/news/Cantata-1-0-0-Music-Player-Gets-a-Cover-Manager-and-Better-MTP-Support-350877.shtml12:22
ikoniaxro: looks pretty sane12:22
thunder1212ActionParsnip: a panel with important apps is required12:23
tgaBluesKaj: gotcha, thanks!12:23
ikoniaxro: a stupid question, but have you rebooted since, I'm wondering if there is something like a dhcp client keeping your other cards active as stand alone cards12:23
bgardnerikonia: Kind of sounds like it.  Otherwise please let me diagnose here.12:23
xroikonia, nop... i just did a networking restart12:23
ikoniaxro: maybe worth it, just to get a clean sane platform12:24
elita_bgardner, what should i do?12:24
xroikonia, boring... i'll get a downtime....12:24
bgardnerelita_: Does 'host www.google.com' return an answer?12:24
ikoniaxro: I'm sorry what ?12:24
elita_nope12:24
elita_bgardner, no .12:25
bgardnerelita_: Okay, please do 'host www.google.com | pastebinit' and give me the link it hands you.12:25
Guest55405ActionParsnip: nopp, the HUD stops working,. not completly, though. alteratives for the network, calander etc are still showing up... but for FF, Nautilus, gimp and other apps, no12:25
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user123how to unload wl module from memory12:26
xroikonia, one more thing... in actif-backup, the backup interface never communicate, right?12:27
dinnahz it possible  2 install Skype on ubuntu??12:27
ikoniaxro: think of it as a hot standby12:28
xroikonia, yes... but i really need it like that... the standby must never communicate as the actif is working....12:29
ikoniaxro: what do you mean communicte ? ?? communicate with what ?12:29
Nmbr1dinnah: http://bit.ly/16Gh52f12:29
ikoniaNmbr1: don't use things like that please12:30
ikoniaNmbr1: help him - or don't12:30
dinnahNubr1:cant i do dat wit command?12:30
mumpitze1!skype | dinnah12:31
ubottudinnah: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga12:31
elita_bgardner, cannot copy paste nor give the link as i dont have net on ubuntu12:31
elita_bgardner, cannot copy paste nor give the link as i dont have net on ubuntu12:32
Nmbr1ikonia: please see pm12:32
mumpitze1elita_: you can make a screenshot of your VMWare session. and if your gateway is right, and your dns too, then it's not a ubuntu problem but a router a VMWare problem12:33
bgardnerelita_: mumpitze1 is right - it sounds like your Ubuntu installation is not the issue.12:36
elita_bgardner, for host www.google.com  command its showing the ip of google and its ipv6 address.12:38
mm12hey wsup all12:39
bgardnerelita_: Okay, that's a successful connection.  You said you couldn't reach the internet, what exactly is your issue?12:39
mumpitze1bgardner: that only means he is reaching his local DNS server12:40
JyZyXELhow do i enable a Wireless when NetworkManager says "Wireless disabled by hardware switch"12:40
bgardnermumpitze1: Hence my followup question...12:40
elita_bgardner,if i ping www.google.com i get host not found.12:40
wasanzythe latest ubuntu 13.04 doesn't come with the latest Gnome desktop environment?12:40
wasanzyI can't install gnome extensions12:41
ActionPa1snipwasanzy: not the very latest, no12:41
mumpitze1JyZyXEL: via rfkill for example. and looking for an actuall wlan switch on the notebook12:41
JyZyXELthere is no wlan switch on the laptop12:41
JyZyXELjust an empty space where the switch is supposed to be12:41
mumpitze1JyZyXEL: notice the word "and": it's important12:41
saiarcot895wasanzy: 13.04 has GNOME 3.612:41
JyZyXELso i can use rfkill instead12:41
bgardnerelita_: Can you get to www.google.com (or other site) with Firefox?12:42
saiarcot895wasanzy: 3.8 just missed the cutoff, but there is a PPA you can install 3.8 from12:42
saiarcot895wasanzy: https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome312:43
JyZyXELmumpitze1: it says Hard blocked: Yes12:43
mm12is ubuntu taking over windows 812:43
ActionPa1snipmm12: no, its not a race....12:44
wasanzysaiarcot895: so how can I install that? I just installed Gnome environment and I can't install any extension12:44
elita_bgardner, nope, now i tried host www.google.com  again  and i am getting  host www.google.com .localdomain not found: 3( NXDOMAIN)12:44
wasanzyok will check that out12:44
dinnahmm12:...yeah it is.12:44
ActionPa1snipmm12: how does one OS overtake another.....12:45
ActionPa1snipmm12: an OS is a tool for a job.12:45
saiarcot895wasanzy: first, add the PPA (sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3)12:45
ironsightwhen one os meets another os, the fierce mating ritual begins...12:45
mm12lol12:46
saiarcot895wasanzy: also, note that support for that will be in #ubuntu-gnome12:46
wasanzyoh ok12:46
mm12i just started using ubuntu i think its super12:46
bgardnerelita_: As mumpitze1 and I noted earlier, this sounds like your Ubuntu installation is not the issue.  It is probably time to start reviewing your VMWare configuration.  If you need help with that, you can always go to #vmware.12:47
ActionPa1snipmm12: thats great :)12:48
mm12only one problem....12:48
wasanzydoes ubuntu has driver for beat? my laptop has it which works well in windows but not on ubuntu12:48
mm12when i try to log into the boot menu i cant log into windows12:48
mm12only ubuntu...12:49
ironsightmm12: Did you overwrite your windows partition?12:49
ironsightif so, ouch12:49
elita_bgardner, i was facing the same problem on ubuntu which is estabilished with windows.12:49
ActionPa1snipmm12: what is the output of:  sudo update-grub; sudo fdisk -l12:49
blazemoremm12: When you did the installation, did you choose "Install alongside Windows" or did you choose "overwrite..."12:49
ActionPa1snipmm12: use http://pastie.org to host the output please12:49
blazemoremm12: perhaps it's worded "use entire disk"12:49
ActionPa1snipblazemore: we'll soon see :)12:49
mm12ok one sec12:49
blazemoreActionPa1snip: Why pastie and not paste.ubuntu?12:50
JyZyXELhow do i unblock hard blocked wifi?12:50
mm12http://paste.ubuntu.com/5874448/12:50
mm12no its on another driver12:51
ActionPa1snipblazemore: just habit, plus the URL is shorter12:51
mm12windows is on my 256 ssd corsair drive and ubuntu is on the 1 terra drive12:51
elita_mumpitzel, what should i do. i am facing the same problem on ubuntu which is estabilished on partition. can you please tell how to configure vmware?12:52
bgardnerelita_: I'm not sure I understand you.  What do you mean the same problem 'established with windows'?12:52
ActionPa1snipmm12: if you run:  sudo update-grub   do you see the Windows OS listed?12:52
dinnahmm12:-tryn 2 undastand bt i cnt...12:52
elita_bgardner,using wubi i installed ubuntu along with windows in one of the drives.12:53
mm12i have to get into ubuntu for first one sec..12:53
mm12brb12:54
user123how to get brcmsmac module work on ubuntu 12.10 ? Broadcom BCM 4313 wifi adapter12:55
bgardnerelita_: Okay, so you're saying you installed Ubuntu via Wubi and had this network connectivity issue, then installed a new copy of Ubuntu under VMWare and both Ubuntu installations had the same connectivity issue?12:56
elita_bgardner, yes.12:56
ActionPa1snip!broadcom12:56
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx12:56
wasanzysaiarcot895: (sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3) will add the repository for me to install the latest gnome? so do I have to remove the previous or it will upgrade it?12:56
ActionPa1snipwasanzy: it will just update it. we cannot support the gnome from that ppa here12:57
user123ActionPa1snip: motive is to increase speed....i tested ralink adapter and its giving double the speed12:58
saiarcot895wasanzy: you will still have to run sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:58
BobBallHowdy :) My graphics card struggles with the window zooming effect when switching windows or desktops; how can I disable it?  I'm using 12.04.213:00
sydnerdrageEvening all.  How does one go about installing a PPA built for precise on my raring box?  purely terminal install btw.13:00
ActionPa1snipsydnerdrage: that will cause a big mess13:00
blazemoresydnerdrage: Once you added it, go into /etc/apt/sources.list.d/repo-name.list and change "precise" to "raring" but prepare for potentially major breakage13:01
ikoniano you don't just do that13:01
ikoniayou don't just blindly change names on the repos13:01
bgardnerelita_: Okay, on your WINDOWS machine, do this command: 'ipconfig /all > output.txt'  Then take the file 'output.txt' that gets created and go to paste.ubuntu.com and put the contents on there for us.13:01
blazemore> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5874448/13:01
blazemoreignore ^13:01
psilowhat does "blindly" mean in that context, haha13:01
psilosydnerdrage: you can add the backports repositories, that's the only clean way to do it.13:02
pip__If I install AMD drivers using additional drivers in 13.04 do I need to run aticonfig --initial -f to be able to check temps & fan speeds?13:03
mm12Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.5.0-36-generic13:03
mm12Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-36-generic13:03
mm12Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.5.0-23-generic13:03
mm12Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-23-generic13:03
mm12Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bi13:03
FloodBot1mm12: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:03
sydnerdrageAhh damn. Thanks anyway.13:03
sydnerdrageMight have to wait for a PPA to be built for raring then, apache2.4 and libapache2-mod-fcgid only seems to be built for precise to my knowledge13:04
mm12http://paste.ubuntu.com/5880748/13:04
San1ty_Will this repo work on ubuntu? http://docs.ajenti.org/man/install/debian.html (The developer says it does, but is there any way to be sure?)13:05
ActionPa1snipsydnerdrage: could contact the maintainer to see if they are interested in Raring at all13:05
mm12http://paste.ubuntu.com/5880748/13:05
wasanzywhat is so good about gnome?13:06
ikoniasydnerdrage: is there a genuine reason you need apache 2.4 ?13:06
ActionPa1snipwasanzy: its the default in Ubuntu, people see that when they first use the OS and get used to it, my guess13:09
elita_bgardner,  http://fpaste.org/25653/73980121/13:09
mm12ActionPa1snip, ive posted it13:10
ActionPa1snipmm12: looks like its just not detected. Try:  sudo os-prober; sudo update-grub13:11
wasanzyActionPa1snip: so apart from that, nothing so special than other desktops?13:11
ActionPa1snipmm12: if its not seen then I have no idea. I don't dual boot]13:11
bgardnerelita_: Now in your VMWare Ubuntu, do 'ifconfig', then take a screenshot using your Windows host and upload that screenshot using http://imagebin.org/?page=add13:11
elita_bgardner, i am unable to take screenshot from windows . only from ubuntu13:17
ActionPa1snipwasanzy: they are just different, with different functionalities13:17
wasanzyok13:18
bgardnerelita_: Can you move files between Ubuntu and your VMWare host?13:19
elita_bgardner  no,why is the screenshot not working on windows when vmware is on?13:20
bgardnerelita_: Because VMWare captures that key.13:20
elita_there must be a way to uncapture it, right?13:21
bgardnerelita_: That's a VMWare question, which I don't use, so I don't know the answer.13:21
elita_okay, is it okay if i just write the output? only the required data?13:22
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kishorhello13:23
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sydnerdrageNo reason other than new project to be released on 2.4 in a while - prefer to upgrade now than migrate mid-dev.   Might contact them then. Thanks!13:23
theadminelita_: You can stop the key capture by hitting Ctrl-Alt, methinks13:23
kishori want help regarding upstart deamon in ubuntu13:24
el_blazemore!ask | kishor13:24
ubottukishor: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:24
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mustmodifyIs there a way to say ... grep A union grep B?13:24
mustmodifylike, I want to know what files have content A and also content B?13:24
bgardnerelita_: Sure, go ahead13:24
blazemoremustmodify: cat file | grep A | grep B13:24
theadminmustmodify: cat file | grep A | grep B13:24
ActionPa1snipmustmodify: grep A file | grep B13:24
blazemoretheadmin: snap13:24
ActionPa1snipwaste of a cat13:25
MonkeyDustmeow13:25
theadminActionPa1snip: True I guess13:25
blazemoreActionPa1snip: I always pipe cat to grep, just makes more sense to me conceptually13:25
mustmodifyOK But those solutions assume that content is on the same line, right?13:25
mustmodifyI'm saying anywhere in the file.13:26
kishori am trying to execute a script which i have saved as /etc/init/myscript.conf,     script is ,13:26
kishorstart on startup13:26
elita_inet= 192.168.191.13413:26
elita_bgardner, broadcast id 192.168.191.255 mask 255.255.255.0  this is on vmware13:27
blazemoremustmodify: Not sure I follow, you want to search a directory of files and recieve a list of those files which contain the strings "A" and also "B" ?13:27
kishorstart on startup      exec echo "Current date:-" $(date) > /tmp/myscript.out      This script is not working.   Why??13:27
mustmodifyblazemore: yes13:28
ActionPa1snipkishor: why the 'exec' command?13:29
bgardnerelita_: Okay, it looks like your network configuration inside VMWare is one private network type (192.168.*) while your actual local network is another private network type (172.16.*) - that's going to be a VMWare-specific issue that we don't support here.13:29
ActionPa1snipkishor: does the user running the script have write access to the file?13:29
bgardnerelita_: You should take this question to #vmware13:29
mustmodifyblazemore: I know that a file somewhere uses "7.hours" and also at some point "puts" but apparently they aren't on the same line, as I've already looked for that.13:29
elita_bgardner, on ubuntu which is installed with windows inet=172.16.58.30  default gateway= 172.16.58.1 subnet 255.255.254.013:29
kishoryes have access to file13:29
jribmustmodify: so grep for A, then run through the resulting files and grep for B in them13:30
kishorexec command to respond to the emited event by upstart13:30
bgardnerelita_: I can't comment on the Wubi install, I don't have any experience with Wubi.13:30
ActionPa1snipkishor: I'd ask in #bash too13:31
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kishoryes, same script is working with   "start on runlevel 2"  event.13:33
mustmodifyjrib? so is it grep "A" . -rl | xargs grep "B"13:33
jribmustmodify: like this:    grep -Rl a . | while read file; do grep b "$file"; done13:33
jribmustmodify: sure, that works too.13:33
elita_bgardner, in vmware there is a router that connects the network13:33
alenahey who can help me to fix problems with skype on ubuntu?13:34
jribmustmodify: you might have some issues with spaces in filenames with your xargs like that13:34
kishorActionPalsnip : Why it is not working with start on startup  ?13:34
mustmodifyjrib: something went crazy but then I put back in -rl at the end and it was better. Thanks.13:34
bgardnerelita_: I understand the concept, but this channel is Ubuntu support and your question is a VMWare question.  You'll have much better luck with the #vmware support channel.13:35
mustmodifyjrib: But I still don't see the expected file. :S13:35
jribmustmodify: if you use xargs, add -Z option to grep and -0 option to xargs13:35
adamkalena: Unles syou tell us what problems you are talking about, no one will be able to help you :-)13:35
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alenai just cant call ppl13:35
jribmustmodify: maybe look at list results for just grep A and just grep B, see if there is a short one, then investigate with brain :)13:35
alenawhen i call person the programme closes13:36
SonoyHello13:36
adamkalena: If you run 'skype' in a terminal, and try to call someone, do you get any error when skype closes?13:36
alenaem... u r asking hard stuff13:37
kishorActionPalsnip : Why it is not working with start on startup  ?13:37
adamkalena: No, not really.13:37
adamkalena: Launch gnome-terminal and run skype.13:37
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adamkalena: Then try to call someone and see if there's an error in the terminal.13:37
elitabgardner, okay thanks but no one is heping in vmware channel13:39
alenaadamk  wait i will try dont go anywher13:39
adamkalena: Just bear in mind that skype is proprietary software.  It's quite possible we will not be able to figure out why it's crashing or stop it.13:40
alenai tried to call and it has failed and closed13:41
adamkalena: And did an error display on the terminal where you launched skype?13:42
alenano i guess13:42
pranavhow to restart my workspace after crash event without quiting my programs in unity13:42
adamkalena: You guess? Either you did or you didn't.  Just look in the terminal where you started skype and see if there's an error message.13:43
alenawait i dont understand13:45
alenai should write skype in terminal?13:45
alenaor13:45
ActionPa1snipalena: could try renaming the skype config folder13:45
alenahow should i do it?13:46
alenaPS write step by step for dump13:46
ActionPa1snipcan anyone with skype check the $HOME and $HOME/.config folders for the skype folder.13:46
wasanzyhow do I enable hibernate?13:47
theadminActionPa1snip: Is ~/.Skype (with a capital S, yes)13:47
ActionPa1sniptheadmin: thanks13:47
ActionPa1snipalena: in terminal, run:  mv ~/.Skype ~/.Skype_old13:47
ActionPa1snipalena: then launch skype13:47
alenahere no such file or cataloge13:49
ActionPa1snipalena: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue13:50
alenawait13:52
alenafirst thing worked13:52
alenathank you13:52
ActionPa1snipalena: yay13:52
alena:)13:52
alenawoah13:52
ActionPa1snipalena: i guess you got no output from the first command, then reran13:52
ActionPa1snipalena: in Linux, if you get no output then it worked13:53
ActionPa1snipalena: no news is good news13:53
alenammm i  guess i will never uderstand how to work with linux13:53
alenawindows much easier13:53
ActionPa1snipalena: its just different, you'll learn13:54
blazemoreI disagree, but then I spend a lot more time on Linux than I do on Windows13:54
ActionPa1snipalena: the folder held the config for skype13:54
blazemorealena: It's more a matter of what you're used to13:54
ActionPa1snipalena: you renamed the folder and ran the app, as there was no config folder, it generated default configs13:54
theadminalena: You could also open a file manager, enable showing hidden files and delete the .Skype folder yourself, it just takes longer to explain13:54
ActionPa1snipalena: works in Windows for some apps too13:54
alena0_013:55
ActionPa1snipalena: and what theadmin said13:55
ActionPa1snipalena: this method of settings storage enables easy backup of settings as you just put the folder back in place13:55
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alenauh hum..13:56
ActionPa1snipalena: how easy is it to restore a full set of settings in Outlook, from a blank install13:56
ActionPa1snipalena: ?13:56
alenaask it theadmin i think he knows13:57
blazemorelol13:57
theadminI don't even remember how Outlook *looks*13:57
ActionPa1snipalena: its fairly complex, compare this to Thunderbird where you simply drop in your backed up ~/.mozilla folder and you are ready to go, no mess13:57
anoneehi room, trying to sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers- 'uname -r' but getting "Virtual packages like 'linux-headers' can't be removed. E: Unable to locate package uname -r  what's going on?13:57
theadminI never used it, only opened it once by accident13:57
theadminlol13:57
ActionPa1snipanonee: use backticks, not apostrophes13:58
theadminanonee: You want `, not ' for that purpose13:58
ActionPa1sniptheadmin: we have it at work13:58
theadminanonee: Or $(command)13:58
alenathank you for help13:58
anoneethank you all. why backticks btw?13:58
icerootanonee: and dont use a whitespace there  linux-headers-`uname -r`13:58
icerootanonee: backticks because you want to execute the string inside, '' will just quote a string13:59
anoneeyes,13:59
anoneeI know that13:59
ActionPa1snipanonee: its like parenthasis in maths :)13:59
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ActionPa1snipanonee: run:  uname -r   that will replace the backtick part as it is ran first14:00
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anoneethank you all14:00
anoneejust one more thing14:00
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anoneeno, no more things for now, that was great, thank you all14:01
anonee:)14:01
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anoneeOMG ubuntu!14:01
anonee:D14:01
ActionPa1snipanonee: nice site for news14:01
anoneePeace...14:02
readyjarAnyone running 13.04 in a vm?14:03
SonikkuAmericaHooray, Verizon's joined Ubuntu Touch Advisory Council!14:03
readyjarAnd seeing much less performance than running physically?14:03
theadminSonikkuAmerica: A while ago actually14:03
SonikkuAmerica(inb4 !touch but that's good noews)14:03
SonikkuAmerica(*news)14:03
theadminreadyjar: You may want to enable 3D acceleration as Unity has currently somewhat limited 2D support14:03
ActionPa1snipreadyjar: that will happen, the hardware is virtualized14:04
ActionPa1snipreadyjar: or run LXDE or XFCE :)14:04
readyjartheadmin: Yea already did that14:04
saiarcot895SonikkuAmerica: it's the first major US wireless network, I think14:04
readyjarActionPa1snip: I just installed lxde, still pretty sketchy14:04
ActionPa1snipreadyjar: install xfce4, log off and try the XFCE session14:04
SonikkuAmericasaiarcot895: I'm surprised AT&T didn't sign on yet, but Deutsche-T (T-Mobile's parent) did14:05
readyjarActionPa1snip: I'll give that a try. I may just need to find a distro better suited for vm though :(14:05
saiarcot895SonikkuAmerica: they have Apple to worry about; but then again, Verizon carries the iPhone as well14:05
ActionPa1snipreadyjar: puppy liny, tinycore, damnsmall linux, xpud14:05
ActionPa1snipreadyjar: slitaz14:05
SonikkuAmericasaiarcot895: So does Straight Talk! (But we're going !ot)14:06
ActionPa1snipreadyjar: crunchbang14:06
SonikkuAmericareadyjar: DSL14:06
blazemorereadyjar: crunchbang14:06
readyjarActionPa1snip: I hear about crunchbang a lot recently14:06
blazemorereadyjar: That's because it's awesome, I used it full-time at work for 6 months14:06
readyjarHave some programmer friends who live by it14:06
tnimreadyjar:  I have a server and desktop instance in vm... no problem.14:07
readyjarbrb trying xfce14:07
blazemoreIt gets out your way, especially on a laptop14:07
tnimreadjar: but neither under heavy load14:07
readyjarHmm14:08
readyjarStill rendering windows pretty poorly14:08
readyjarDragging them around definitely causes some trails14:09
Equinox3how many games do you guys see on your ubuntu steam?14:09
theadminEquinox3: All those that I own and those that run on Linux?14:10
blazemoreEquinox3: 214:10
blazemoreEquinox3: It depends how many you bought...14:10
Equinox3ah ok14:10
Equinox3i don't have any. :P14:11
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blazemoreEquinox3:  I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question14:12
Equinox3blazemore: i was just wondering if it'd show all the games playable on linux14:13
blazemoreEquinox3: It will in the store14:13
Equinox3i meant linux games14:13
blazemoreEquinox3: Open Steam, look in the store14:13
Equinox3the store has it all, but on the linux games there's only one14:14
DestinyAwaitsIs Ubuntu 13.04 better then previous release?14:14
blazemore!best | DestinyAwaits14:14
ubottuDestinyAwaits: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.14:14
blazemoreDestinyAwaits: It has newer software than previous releases14:14
ActionPa1snipDestinyAwaits: depends. I think its not so good as its only supported til January 2014....depends on needs14:14
Equinox3DestinyAwaits: try it on a live cd, if everything works, you should be good with it14:15
readyjarYup gnome seems to be the best performing DM, surprisingly14:15
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blazemoreEquinox3: You have to buy the game before you can play it14:16
DestinyAwaitsThanks Guys for all your advice14:16
DestinyAwaits:)14:16
DestinyAwaitsThis is what I needed 7% downloaded14:16
blazemoreEquinox3: You can buy them here http://store.steampowered.com/browse/linux/14:16
DestinyAwaits:)14:16
Equinox3got it. blazemore :)14:16
Equinox3thanks14:16
DestinyAwaitsI was surfing and I got to know there there are performance fixes etc dunno if that is correct14:18
readyjarWell unity isn't too far behind gnome14:18
DestinyAwaitsthat is the reason i asked14:18
ActionPa1snipreadyjar: you use Gnome when you run Unity. Unity doesn't replace Gnome14:19
readyjarHmm really? Because I've always read they are replacements for one another14:19
blazemorereadyjar: You read wrong then sadly14:20
pranavok, the enter in my numpad is more accessible then top-right small pg-down. is there anyway i can override the numpad-enter button to perform as pageDown in ubuntu ?14:20
theadminreadyjar: Unity uses a lot of GNOME's stuff14:20
readyjarWeird. Seems to be everywhere I read talks about them as separate entities14:20
wilee-nileereadyjar, Unity replaced gnome 2 is what you have read.14:21
EntricularUnity is horrible14:21
EntricularThat is why i use Linux Mint14:21
pranavits awesome14:21
SonikkuAmericaEntricular: No one said you had to use it14:21
EntricularGnome214:21
theadminEntricular: And nobody cares what you use :P This is offtopic here14:22
SonikkuAmerica!ot | Entricular14:22
ubottuEntricular: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:22
EntricularSonikkuAmerica, Until Ubuntu provides a better solution then I will use Linux Mint14:22
blazemoreEntricular: Fill your boots. What's your point?14:22
wilee-nileeEntricular, mint is ubuntu14:22
SonikkuAmericaEntricular: Have you even tried the other flavors?14:22
SonikkuAmerica!flavors | Entricular14:23
ubottuEntricular: !Kubuntu and !Xubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with KDE and Xfce (respectively) installed as default, instead of Unity. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio,  !Mythbuntu, and !Lubuntu14:23
EntricularSonikkuAmerica, No I have not14:23
SonikkuAmericaEntricular: Then how can you make that judgment?14:23
SonikkuAmericaBesides, wilee-nilee is right (unless you're using LMDE)14:23
EntricularSonikkuAmerica, The best Linux hasn't been invented yet14:23
wilee-nileeif your using cinnamon that is gnome 3 forked14:23
EntricularSonikkuAmerica, Why do you like LMDE ?14:23
EntricularBecause it's based on Debian is that right14:24
SonikkuAmericaEntricular: Whoever said I did?14:24
Entricularso is Ubuntu14:24
EntricularLMDE, i never tried14:24
PiciLadies, Gentlemen, can we please keep this channel open for support. Opinions can be discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic.14:25
SonikkuAmerica!ot | AGAIN14:25
ubottuAGAIN: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:25
readyjarSorry for starting a flame war here14:25
EntricularI would like to try LMDE someday but I like Linux Mint right now14:25
kos_exit14:26
DestinyAwaitsOne question14:26
blazemorekos_: /quit14:26
theadminEntricular: Go to the Mint channels then, will you? You can tell clem how great Mint is if you like it. Please keep this ontopic here, though, for Ubuntu support questions only.14:26
DestinyAwaitsIs Juju comes pre installed with Ubuntu? or there is a seprate installer?14:26
theadminDestinyAwaits: I think you have to apt-get install juju, at least on the desktop version14:26
DestinyAwaitsok14:27
DestinyAwaitsYes Downloading the Desktop release14:27
DestinyAwaitsnow14:27
kos_You speak to russia14:27
ActionPa1snip!info juju14:27
ubottujuju (source: juju): next generation service orchestration system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 13 kB, installed size 64 kB14:27
ActionPa1snip!ru | kos_14:27
ubottukos_: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.14:27
Entricularkos_, Who is Russia ?14:28
kos_Здесь кто нибудь говорит на Русском?14:30
theadminkos_: /join #ubuntu-ru и нажмите Enter. Там русские.14:30
kos_Спасибо14:31
DestinyAwaitsActionPa1snip: Thanks14:31
ActionPa1snipDestinyAwaits: any time14:31
sh_ahmedHi guys, my usb flash drive is not working today, it is not even getting recognized.14:33
sh_ahmedEverything was good till yesterday.14:33
sh_ahmedHow can i dig into what has happened?14:34
cipherboysh_ahmed, recognized how? does it show up in `sudo fdisk -l`?14:34
ActionPa1snipsh_ahmed: when you last unplugged it, did you safe remove it before physically unplugging it?14:34
sh_ahmedIt doesn't show up in 'lsusb'14:34
cipherboyalso, when you plug it in, check dmesg: `dmesg | tail -n 30` and you might see something.14:34
sh_ahmedActionpa1snip, no14:34
ActionPa1snipsh_ahmed: then you are mistreating your hardware14:35
ActionPa1snipsh_ahmed: is it NTFS based?14:35
ActionPa1snipsh_ahmed: If it is, then shove it in a Windows system and run a full chkdsk. Then safely remove the device and wait til you are told you can unplug it. Then remove and you'll probably find it's ok.14:36
sh_ahmedunfortunately, I don't use that safe removal mode14:37
sh_ahmedIt was FAT32. By flash drive, I meant a pen drive14:37
bluefoxxxProftpd isn't chroot()ing properly and I don't get why.14:37
bluefoxxxthe logs say it chroot() successfully, but my client has access to / instead of the chroot() path14:37
bluefoxxx/proc/[pid]/root points to /14:37
sh_ahmedI don't use windows btw. So can't check right now. Is there any other method?14:37
auronandacesh_ahmed: you don't just unplug usb sticks, they need to be safely unmounted first14:38
readyjarHow do you check what all repos you have added?14:38
adamkYeah, but pulling out a flash drive without unmounting shouldn't cause it not to be recognized by the OS...  It might hose the filesystem, but should still show up in lsusb.14:39
Reg_Reg20714:39
sh_ahmedauronandace, that means my usb stick is briked? :O14:39
adamksh_ahmed: Check the output of 'dmesg' when you insert the device and see if the kernel registers anything...14:39
adamksh_ahmed: Sounds like the drive or the USB controller might be damaged.  Could be a driver issue, instead, but that seems really really unlikely.14:40
sh_ahmedadamk, thanks, I'll try that one.14:40
jilebedevHello. I've a line in my crontab like this: "* * * * * php -f script.php &>>/var/log/scriptlogfile" However, stdout and stderr are not redirected to a logfile and instead are emailed to me (well, to my local account). What am I doing wrong?14:41
adamksh_ahmed: I would definitely try the device in another computer, and try another USB device in the same port.14:41
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BlueEaglejilebedev: I am not sure what the & is doing placed there.14:42
* mecool :)14:42
jilebedevBlueEagle: & to redirect both stdout and stderr to a logfile.14:42
sh_ahmedadamk, Now it's being recognized, strange.14:42
readyjarOk how do I actually delete entries from /etc/apt/sources.list.d ?14:42
BlueEaglejilebedev: Ahh. Then I learned something new. Thanks.14:42
theadminreadyjar: Just rm the files?14:43
ActionParsnipreadyjar: they are just files, delete them as you wish14:43
jilebedevreadyjar: highly sensible idea to mv them to a backup location instead of rm'ing them :)14:43
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sh_ahmedAnyway, thanks guys.14:43
theadminjilebedev: Put that in a script, the cron syntax is not the same as the sh syntax so that redirection probably won't work14:43
readyjarAh I get it now. Tried to delete via vim not realizing it was a directory. Didn't know you could vim a directory14:44
jilebedevtheadmin: can't I just /bin/sh --execute `php -f script.php` &>>logfile    ?14:44
theadminjilebedev: ...well... you could try, but I don't really see the point, scripts are easier to manage imo14:44
adamksh_ahmed: Could be a flaky usb controller or usb port. Or the drive itself could be flaky.  Either way, back up whatever is on that device and stop just pulling it out of the computer.14:44
sh_ahmedadamk: problem again,14:44
BlueEaglejilebedev: 2nd hit on google was: 5 * * * * /dir/php /dir/process_fns.php >> /dir/dump.txt 2>&114:45
sh_ahmedwhenever I try to unmount using disk utility, it is saying the disk is not mounted.14:45
sh_ahmedsame error when I try to unmount it through nautilus/marlin also.14:45
jilebedevBlueEagle: Yep, that's the "old" way of redirecting the streams. & refers to both file descriptors 1 and 2. It's available in later versions of bash.14:45
jilebedevBoth are correct, just & more convenient than remembering which fd is 1 and which one is 2.14:46
ActionParsnipsh_ahmed: is it NTFS based, my link died?14:47
sh_ahmedActionParsnip, it is not ntfs based, it is FAT3214:47
BlueEaglejilebedev: Well, if it works. ;)14:48
ActionParsnipsh_ahmed: then you especially need to eject properly, get it checked under windows14:48
sh_ahmedOkay. I don't use windows, I can't check that right now.14:48
sh_ahmedAs far as I can see, read and write operations are happening.14:49
Penol-im trying to install HVR-930C USB DVB-C card, but i wont work, any tips?14:53
ActionParsnipPenol-: run:  lsusb   use the 8 character hex id to find guides14:53
Penol-ActionParsnip: 2040:b130 ?14:54
mojtabaHi, Is Adobe Acrobat reader secure?14:54
mojtabaI had lots of problems with Adobe products in windows era.14:55
auronandacemojtaba: haha, adobe secure? you are joking right?14:55
mojtabaauronandace: I mean what will happen if I install it in ubuntu?14:55
sh_ahmedmojtaba, well I use evince, it works well and secure too. Is there any reason you want to use adobe reader specifically?14:55
stevejbhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/320681/after-upgrading-from-12-10-to-13-04-virtualbox-vms-are-unstable14:56
auronandacemojtaba: it will work but up to you if you want adobe's software on your computer14:56
mojtabaRecently I was filling an important form, which needs adobe.14:56
stevejbif anyone can glance at that, that would be extremely helpful14:56
vadraoHi all, I have two specific questions regarding installing Ubuntu on UEFI and GPT enabled ultrabook.14:57
vadrao1) When installing Ubuntu, should we explicitly choose "device for boot loader installation" as /dev/sda or /dev/sda3 (EFI partition)?14:57
Reg_has anyone seen this object error in win 7 that wont go away when you try to close it?14:57
vadrao2) How would I uninstall or install another distro on the same partition. Previously, we just used to reformat it. Now because the keys are stored in EFI partition, how do we remove them.14:57
auronandace!uefi | vadrao14:58
ubottuvadrao: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI14:58
mojtabaWhat should I do to prevent it from spying or whatever, if I forced to have it on my laptop?14:58
cfhowlettmojtaba, don't use it.14:58
cfhowlettmojtaba, or use a virtual machine and put it there.14:58
mojtabacfhowlett: Actually I must fill a form which is for embassy, and it just opens with adobe. :X14:59
cfhowlettmojtaba, virtual machine will work.  I run virtualbox with distros all the time15:00
vadraoauronandace: How would I remove ubuntu and install another distro on top of it?15:00
mojtabacfhowlett: My laptop is very slow. :(15:00
vadraobecause the keys are stored in EFI partition, how do we remove them.15:00
auronandacevadrao: i've never used efi15:00
mojtabaIs there anyway to prevent it from doing wrong things on my laptop? e.g. setting firewall, ...15:00
adamkmojtaba: No one here can guarantee that Adobe's proprietary software isn't going to do something to your machine...  It is proprietary, after all.15:01
cfhowlettmojtaba, well, assuming you don't have Top secret clearance and you're not auctioning off launch codes, I'd say, fill out the form and delete the ADOBE products when finished15:01
mojtabaadamk: Ok, how can I delete it? I have installed it unfortunately. (I am a newbie.15:02
cfhowlettmojtaba, sudo apt-get purge adobe*15:02
mojtabacfhowlett: I run the command, but it is still in my desktop.15:03
mojtabacfhowlett: I have installed it from a .bin file15:04
sh_ahmedcheck your /opt, it might be there.15:04
ActionParsnipmojtaba: you'll probably need the same file to remove, o look in /opt somewhere to see if there is a removal script15:04
mojtabaActionParsnip: Still I have the original downloaded file (.bin)15:05
mojtabahow can I use it?15:06
djonohello all im having troubles transferring files from ubuntu to usb. it says its done transferring but the file becomes corrupted and only partial file is actually transfered15:07
darrell09thomasneed help ubuntu 12.04 lts every time it up dates and then reboots seems theres a problem a few times cant get onto ubuntu from login screen as the update has removed the ubuntu desktop and i had to reinstall it so how can i sort it when it updates this problem dont happen again15:07
pznubuntu 13.04. I connected to ethernet, it got 192.168.1.22. then I modify dhcpd.conf of the server to give me a fixed address 192.168.1.33; when I connect I see an DHCPREQUEST package asking for 192.168.1.22 and since this is a valid address in range, the server answers ACK15:09
pznhow can I fix this DHCP request package?15:09
cuddylierWhy would a ubuntu screen not allow me to type in it eventhough it's active?15:09
wilee-nileedarrell09thomas, first guess is you have added something to your sources, a update wont remove the desktop unless you have caused it in some way.15:09
mojtabaActionParsnip: Still I have the original downloaded file (.bin) how can I use it to remove the Adobe??15:10
wilee-nileedjono15:13
djonoyes willee-nilee15:13
wilee-nileedjono, This a file more than 4 gigs and a fat32 usb?15:13
djonowilee-nilee most are under 4gb but the usb stick is ntfs. ive had worse problems using fat3215:14
wilee-nileedjono, YOu checked if the hidden trash is empty?15:15
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djonowilee-nilee yes the hidden trash is always empty. i try the cp method the grsync and luckybackup method for transferring and all the same.15:16
wilee-nileedjono, Not sure then here.15:16
varunendradjono, even the smaller files get corrupted?15:17
djonovarunendra. i'd say 1 out of 20 will be corrupted. bigger than 700 1 and 3 that it is corrupted15:18
varunendrahave you checked the drive on other computers / OS? Sounds like a corrupt flash memory /drive to me.15:19
ActionParsnipmojtaba: check in /opt I believe it adds an uninstall script there15:19
ActionParsnipmojtaba: is it acrobat reader you want removing?15:19
mojtabaActionParsnip: yes15:20
djonovarunendra. yes i have. no problems. the transfers work in windows. but in ubuntu it just always hit or miss15:20
djonosometimes i get false readings where it says its done copying but only the some of the file would be transferred.15:21
mojtabaActionParsnip: There is a file in /opt/Adobe/Reader9/bin/UNINSTALL15:21
ActionParsnipmojtaba: sudo apt-get purge adobereader-enu; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove15:21
ActionParsnipmojtaba: maybe15:21
varunendradjono, what kind of drive is it? USB HDD? Flash thumb drive?15:22
mojtabaActionParsnip: E: Unable to locate package adobereader-enu15:22
djonovarunendra. usb flash drive15:22
wilee-nileedjono, Have you had windows run a check on it?15:24
varunendradjono, have you tried reformatting the drive? Could be a corrupt partition table (not sure how windows handles it then)15:24
djonoon me buddies computer. the usb drive is fine. even bought a new one and same thing. i don't run windows on me computer. i always format through gparted15:25
darrell09thomasplease help everytime i try to upgrade ubuntu i keep getting this (  * SECURITY UPDATE: log file poisoning via mod_rewrite (LP: #1188069)15:25
darrell09thomas    - debian/patches/CVE-2013-1862.patch: properly escape items in15:25
darrell09thomas      modules/mappers/mod_rewrite.c.15:25
darrell09thomas    - CVE-2013-186215:25
darrell09thomas  * SECURITY UPDATE: denial of service via MERGE request15:25
FloodBot1darrell09thomas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1188069 in apache2 (Ubuntu Saucy) "apache2 mod_rewrite CVE 2013-1862" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118806915:25
ubottumod_rewrite.c in the mod_rewrite module in the Apache HTTP Server 2.2.x before 2.2.25 writes data to a log file without sanitizing non-printable characters, which might allow remote attackers to execute arbitrary commands via an HTTP request containing an escape sequence for a terminal emulator. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2013-1862)15:25
ActionParsnipdarrell09thomas: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue15:26
wilee-nileedarrell09thomas, First is was a update that removes the desktop, you trying to upgrade a broken system?15:26
varunendradjono, something is not normal there. I'm using all sort of drives for more than a year with many distros, never had a problem with ntfs on Linux.15:27
darrell09thomashttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5881191/15:27
ActionParsnipdarrell09thomas: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue15:27
djonovarunendra its not only ntfs its also fat 32. its a new computer as well. same thing happened on me old system15:28
darrell09thomasUbuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l15:29
djonothe transfers seem fast but only partial file copy even when it says its finished. when the transfer is slow whenever it decides to be slow the outcome is better15:29
darrell09thomasUbuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l15:29
djonovarunednra is there a way to check?15:29
varunendraCheck what?15:30
darrell09thomasi keep getting this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5881191/  when i try to upgrade how can i sort this problem out please without reinstalling ubuntu 12.04lts15:30
mojtabaActionParsnip: E: Unable to locate package adobereader-enu15:30
djonowhy its nor normal15:30
genialHello, I need some help here. I've installed Ubuntu Server on a machine which has a NIC which the installation didn't have the drivers to. I've located the drivers on the internet, but they require making, and I can't apt-get the build-essentials. Any tips?15:31
blazemoregenial: What is the nic?15:31
ActionParsnipmojtaba: according to a site I found, the UNINSTAL dir you found should contain an uninstall script, or the UNINSTALL thing you named is the thing to run15:31
genialblazemore: JMicron JMC26015:32
ActionParsnipgenial: use a usb storage, I believe build essential is on the install DVD but may be on the install CD too...15:32
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genialAh ActionParsnip, I didn't think of using the CD as a repository - I'll give that a shot! Thanks.15:34
varunendradjono, since you say it's same on another computer too, I'm not sure what to suggest. Just thinking.... I have a worked on a whole network of Ubuntu/Mint running computers. Never faced such problems. Except that it very often takes a long time to actually 'Finish' a large copy on flash drives.15:34
djonovarunenra. maybe the me problem would get worked. just cannot go back to winblows after a 3 year hatious15:35
mojtabaActionParsnip: could you please let me know how should I run it?15:36
wasanzyhello still not getting the extensions, how do I know the version of Gnome installed?15:36
wasanzyI know gnome extensions15:36
uvalahello, it's been 42 days since choqok hasn't updated. can anyone suggest another client where I can view multiple twitter accounts?15:36
uvalaI mean, with usual functions15:37
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killerspec_hi all is it possible to join a windows work I am running pinguy and windows 715:38
wilee-nileekillerspec_, Pinguy is not supported here. ;)15:39
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killerspec_ok using ubuntu with windows 7 can I join the work group on my ubuntu system15:40
wilee-nileetry #PinguyOS you are not running ubuntu15:41
Guest55405Can I inactive the Global Menu without breaking the HUD? Gnome-Do only works for certain applications (not as many as the Uinty Hud does).15:41
ActionParsnipmojtaba: in a terminal, prefixed with sudo15:41
wilee-nileeGuest55405, Have you considered the other desktops?15:42
icerootKartagis: sure, with wine, have a look at #winehq for joining nt-domains (samab3) or ad-domains (samba4)15:42
icerootKartagis: sorry wrong nick15:42
Guest55405wilee-nilee: I love Unity, except the global menu and the amazon ads15:43
Guest55405the amazon ads is easy to remove15:43
mojtabaActionParsnip: Thank you very much. Get rid of it. (Is there any left overs like in windows?)15:43
Guest55405but the global menu isn't15:43
mojtabaany registery, or whatever?15:43
qwebirc91412?15:44
qwebirc91412Can anybody help me in solving my ubuntu problem ?15:44
ActionParsnipmojtaba: no idea, its Adobe's thing. I'd imagine its ok15:45
wilee-nileeqwebirc91412, You want us to guess, state it.15:45
genialThanks ActionParsnip, you're a champ! Using the CD as a repo I got it built and installed successfully! :)15:46
qwebirc91412I have ubuntu installed on my pc but now I want to install windows 7, how can I do this without losing my data ?15:46
Fernseherhey linuxians15:47
wilee-nileeqwebirc91412, back it up to begin with15:47
qwebirc91412currently i dont have any external media for backup ?15:47
Fernseherbuy one15:47
FernseherIs there an ubuntu-wiki like the arch one??15:48
Fernsehercounldn't find one on duckduckgo15:48
saiarcot895Fernseher: besides wiki.ubuntu.com ?15:48
jribFernseher: http://help.ubuntu.com/community15:49
AlexBellhi are James Page, Miguel Landaeta, tony mancill, or Jakub Adam on IRC?15:50
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wilee-nilee!ot > AlexBell15:50
ubottuAlexBell, please see my private message15:50
Fernseherok, besides wiki.ubuntu.com which seems to be an terrible "wiki"15:51
jribAlexBell: I suggest finding their irc handles and checking15:51
AlexBellwilee-nilee: it's not off topic. they are package managers.15:51
PiciAlexBell: Depending what you need from them, #ubuntu-motu might be the best place to start.15:51
AlexBelldoes anyone know any of their handles?15:51
wilee-nileeFernseher, Both OS have multiple wiki's on many subjects.15:51
PiciAlexBell: They're on their launchpad pages.15:51
AlexBellPici: awesome!15:52
columbHow  to make HDD with ubuntu bootable? Installed ubuntu from wubi. Windows and ubuntu is on separated  HDDs.15:52
Fernseherhmpf15:53
wilee-nileecolumb, wubi boots through the windows bootloader, you have a wubi file on a second HD, not a partitioned install which would boot independently.15:53
laoluubuntu image for raspberry, anyone?15:54
laoluanyone?15:54
ikonialaolu: can you please try to phrase stentences15:54
k1llaolu: not possible, because its armv6 and ubuntu supports just armv7 an newer15:54
ikonialaolu: what good is saying "anyone" - none15:54
laoluthanks.15:54
ikonialaolu: ask a clear question.15:54
laoluI am looking for an ubuntu image for rapberry pie, anyone?15:55
Picilaolu: There is none.15:55
laoluwoops15:55
k1llaolu: #ubuntu-arm15:55
FernseherxD15:55
ActionParsnipcolumb: Wubi is not a real install, it installs to an image stored i NTFS15:55
laoluthanks kil...15:55
ikonialaolu: "does anyone know if there is or were I can get an ubuntu 13.04 image for a Raspberyy pi"15:55
ikonialaolu: "rather than raspberry image anyone"15:55
columbNo way to make it bootable with grub?15:56
laoluthanks for the english lesson Ikonia:)15:56
Fernsehercookies, anyone? xD15:56
ActionParsnipcolumb: the wubi installer will ad what is needed to the Windows boot loader and the system can boot the image if needed15:56
wilee-nileecolumb, it does already sort of from the windows boot, but no not a straight grub boot.15:56
ikonialaolu: it's not funny,15:56
laolukil, i hope the installation is as staright forward as rapbian and so?15:56
k1llaolu: please re-read what i told you.15:57
blazemorelaolu: There is currently no way to run Ubuntu on a Raspberry Pi15:57
k1llaolu: there is no chance of having a ubuntu image because the ARM cpu is not supported15:57
ActionParsniplaolu: http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads15:57
rantick1l: So how am I running ubuntu server arm edition right now..15:58
laoluok, i see, you got that right, thanks, really appreciate your help15:58
ranticlaolu: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/arm15:58
blazemorerantic: Some ARM is supported, but not the one in Raspberry Pi15:58
k1lrantic: laolu for further arm specific questions please change to #ubuntu-arm15:58
rantick1l: Oh, my apologies15:58
laoluthanks blaze, neither are we sure they are planning for it, ok kil15:58
laoluwill do15:59
ActionParsniplaolu: you wont get adobe flash on the pi either, you will need arm based (open source) alternatives15:59
AlexBellI need the apt-key for this rep http://nightly.openerp.com/7.0/nightly/deb/ how do I find it and install it?15:59
laolunot looking for that action...thanks for ur concern15:59
FernseherI think the ubuntu forum should raise money to protect pengiuns16:00
ActionParsnipAlexBell: if you run:   sudo apt-get update   you will get a GPG KEY missing warning, what is the 16 character hex value with it?16:00
k1l!ot | Fernseher16:01
ubottuFernseher: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:01
saiarcot895Fernseher: penguins is linux16:01
Fernseherlol ok I'll stop16:01
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AlexBellActionParsnip: I'm getting no warning except when trying to upgrade something from that rep16:03
z0\join #ubuntu_ir16:03
cipherboyz0, use forward slash: /join16:03
ActionParsnipAlexBell: what is the warning??16:03
z0tnx:]and sorry16:04
AlexBellWARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! openerp Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y16:04
ActionParsnipAlexBell: install it in terminal, then copy the command you ran adn ALL of the output and pastebin the text please16:04
ss_hazegood morning16:05
maithuhello16:05
anoneegood evening16:05
Peyammorning16:05
cipherboyAfternoon.16:05
anoneelol16:05
anoneehello room, so I did # locale-gen and got hash collision (1734041931)  how can i fix that?16:07
olivier_bKhi16:07
olivier_bKdo you know i can launch daemontool ,16:07
olivier_bK?16:07
ActionParsnipolivier_bK: why would you want to?16:07
blazemoreolivier_bK: How did you install it?16:07
olivier_bKi creat directory with run file16:08
olivier_bKbut my application in the file nginx are not running16:08
ActionParsnipolivier_bK: what are you wanting to achieve? Ubuntu can do lots of the stuff Windows needs 3rd party tools to do16:08
varunendraolivier_bK, I don't think it'll work on Linux. It needs to create a virtual bus which may not be possible on linux for a windows software.16:08
olivier_bKi launch apt-get install ..16:09
ActionParsnipolivier_bK: do you want to mount a CD image (ISO file)?16:09
varunendraolivier_bK, daemontools is not available for Linux as far as I know.16:09
olivier_bKno i just wnt to start nginx16:09
olivier_bKsvc -d /etc/service/*16:09
olivier_bKsvc: warning: unable to control /etc/service/nginx: supervise not running16:09
blazemoreolivier_bK: sudo service nginx start16:10
blazemoreI think by "daemontool" he meant like... upstart. Not DaemonTools :P16:11
olivier_bKi dont need to launch sudo service nginx start he be launched by daemontool normaly no ?16:11
blazemoreolivier_bK: What do you mean by "daemontool"?16:11
ActionParsnipolivier_bK: you do know what daemontools is...right?16:11
varunendraYeah, figured that now ;P blazemore16:11
blazemoreolivier_bK: So you are having problems trying to install nginx?16:12
usr13anonee: suod apt-get install localepurge  #And try again.16:12
olivier_bKi know  he launch everything what he have in the directory /etc/service/*16:12
blazemoreolivier_bK: What are you trying to do?16:12
ActionParsnipolivier_bK: daemontools is a virtual CD software for Windows16:12
anoneeusr13 localpurge ?16:13
Pici!info daemontools | ActionParsnip16:13
blazemoreolivier_bK: Without using the word "daemontool", what are you *actually* trying to do? Install a web server?16:13
ubottuActionParsnip: daemontools (source: daemontools): a collection of tools for managing UNIX services. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.76-3ubuntu3 (raring), package size 71 kB, installed size 396 kB16:13
ActionParsnipoh, sorry, my mistake16:13
usr13!info localpurge | anonee16:13
blazemoreOh wow... TIL16:13
ubottuanonee: Package localpurge does not exist in raring16:13
ActionParsnipPici: thanks :)16:13
PiciActionParsnip: np16:13
usr13!info localepurge | anonee16:14
ubottuanonee: localepurge (source: localepurge): Reclaim disk space removing unneeded localizations. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.3 (raring), package size 32 kB, installed size 133 kB16:14
anoneeOMG bots :D16:14
usr13anonee: (spelling error)16:14
ActionParsnipanonee: several16:14
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ActionParsnipolivier_bK: is supervise running ok?16:14
anoneebut I'm not using raring, btw how on earth would someone act in this case in raring?!16:15
ActionParsnipanonee: ubottu is great, she saves us a lot of effort16:15
blazemoreShe?16:15
ActionParsnip!she16:15
ActionParsnip!gender16:15
ubottuyes, I can confirm I am a female bot :)16:15
blazemoreI'll take your word for it lol16:15
anoneehehehe16:15
anonee:)16:16
nimeshhi can someone help me when i boot into ubuntu 12.04 lts it just goes to a black screen and i can't login16:20
antonio_heloooooooooooo16:21
jaredlylooks like the keyserver's down... Anyone have status?16:21
antonio_list???????????????16:21
ActionParsnipjaredly: try a different key server16:21
Slingantonio_: what?16:21
Slingalso, this is a channel, not a list16:21
antonio_ok16:21
jaredlyI'I've tried a couple16:21
jaredlyall fail with "keyserver error"16:21
AlexBellActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/f48ePEbX16:21
jaredlycould that happen if there's problems with my proxy?16:21
antonio_I would like to know how it works16:21
antonio_I would like to know how this program works16:21
antonio_???16:21
usr13anonee: What program?16:21
usr13anonee: list?  see  man list16:21
SlingI think he means IRC16:21
usr13antonio_: man list16:22
Peyamantonio_: what program?16:22
theadmin!list | antonio_16:22
ubottuantonio_: theadmin: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».16:22
usr13(sorry anonee, wrong nick)16:22
anoneeusr13 that was a smile, something we humans do sometimes even when it's not the right time16:22
Peyamhaha16:22
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ActionParsnipAlexBell: there are scripts to import keys from PPAs you haven't imported them for16:24
AlexBellActionParsnip: like?16:25
ActionParsnipAlexBell: can't find it right now. I suggest you contact the PPA maintainer16:27
AlexBellit isn't a ppa16:28
AlexBellnow he left16:28
AlexBellit is a debian rep16:29
gordonjcpAlexBell: what exactly are you trying to do?16:29
AlexBellgordonjcp: get rid of:16:29
AlexBellWARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! openerp Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y16:29
gordonjcpAlexBell: when you added the OpenERP PPA, did you follow all the steps?16:32
gordonjcpAlexBell: you should have added some keys16:32
gordonjcpAlexBell: openerp is packaged in 12.04 *anyway* so it shouldn't be an issue16:33
AlexBellgordonjcp: this isn't a ppa. it is the openerp.org package. and its for debian/"ubuntu"16:33
AlexBellI need to use version 7 which isn't in the official repo16:33
cipherboyAlexBell, btw, MIT keyserver is up.16:34
cipherboynot sure what key, but try that one.16:34
Frogging|workWhat happens if /mnt contains folders and something tries to mount something else there?16:34
AlexBellcipherboy: ??16:34
cipherboyAlexBell, , http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=OpenERP&op=index  perhaps?16:34
usr13Frogging|work: You'll have more, (and it will be confusing).16:34
cipherboyOh whoops, wrong user. Jaredly, if you are still here.16:34
jaredlyyeah16:35
fffreet16:35
jaredlyTurns out it was a firewall issue. ;) switching to hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:80 worked16:36
Frogging|workusr13: Will Ubuntu ever automatically mount something like a cd or flash drive directly in /mnt ?16:36
usr13Frogging|work: So, put those directories someplace else, or use another mount point.16:36
jaredlyThanks cipherboy16:36
babinlonstonHow can i backup my 3 ubuntu servers 12.04  to a backupserver which was build with centos 6.4 Any guide16:36
AlexBellcipherboy: thanks how can I find out what key?16:36
Frogging|workOr does it use subfolders?16:36
usr13Frogging|work: It will use /media16:36
Frogging|workAh16:36
Frogging|workForgot :P16:36
Frogging|workThanks16:36
AlexBellthis rep http://nightly.openerp.com/7.0/nightly/deb/16:36
AlexBellChanged-By: Antony Lesuisse <al@openerp.com>16:37
AlexBellcipherboy: he isn't there :(16:39
usr13Frogging|work: But even if you do want to mount something in /mnt, you can just create another sub-directory for it and mount it there.  Right?16:39
cipherboyAlexBell, Indeed, just noticed that myself. Perhaps the website has more info?16:39
AlexBellcipherboy: i wish it did. but it doesn't!16:39
usr13babinlonston: The entire filesystem(s) or _______________ ?16:39
mamtina /join #debian-facile16:40
mamtinaooops16:40
cipherboyAlexBell, Wait, you have a deb downloaded, right? Try running dpkg-sig --list <deb.deb> to see what it turns out16:40
cipherboyCould be that that it is saying unable to authenticate _because_ it isn't signed...hence no key would help you with that.16:41
gordonjcpAlexBell: that's unlikely to work well.  Stick to the official packages ;-)16:41
babinlonstoni want to backup Whole Ubuntu Server , and if there any crash i want to restore it too , after restoring i dont want to face any issue such as grub error  , so how can i backup my /  , except tmp folder and mnt folder16:41
cipherboybabinlonston, why not dd piped to gzip/lzo/xz/etc?16:42
usr13babinlonston: You could do something like: gzip < /dev/hda | ssh remote-machine "cat >system_drive_backup.img.gz"16:43
cipherboythen you could do either backup to an external medium (flash/etc), or remotely, like usr13 suggested.16:43
babinlonstoni dont know that pls guide me USR1316:43
Jezzzhow can I configure tntnet to process cgi script?16:43
babinlonstonis it possible to backup /dev/sda1 like this16:44
punditwhen i download mails with fetchmail they dont get into /var/mail/username and also nowhere else. but fetchmail verbosely tells me that they go to username@hostname. where else can they be?16:45
cipherboybabinlonston, yes you could do just the first partition, but perhaps if you want to avoid grub errors, perhaps an entire drive copy would be best.16:45
usr13babinlonston: dd if=/dev/sda2 | ssh $user@$host 'gzip - > /pub/image.gz'16:45
usr13or sda116:46
babinlonstonok let me try now and let u know too16:46
AlexBellcipherboy: I added the rep to sources.list16:47
cipherboyAlexBell, and do you have a .deb you could test it on?16:47
altermannis there no "btrfs-progs" for ubuntu?16:48
altermannor are they called something else?16:48
cipherboyaltermann, try -tools16:48
altermannthanks16:48
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punditwhen i download mails with fetchmail they dont get into /var/mail/username and also nowhere else. but fetchmail verbosely tells me that they go to username@hostname. where else can they be? PS: I have no $MAIL set, and some exim-configuration, which should not interfere, however16:49
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babinlonstonusr13: its showing some errors16:55
AlexBellcipherboy: I'll download16:56
cipherboybabinlonston, what errors?16:57
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babinlonstonshall i type the command what i used there16:57
cipherboybabinlonston, copy and paste the command and whatever errors you are getting.16:57
gloweHello, need some help with my mobile broadband. Anyone who now something about usb-modeswitch?16:57
meetHi. I shared a folder from the right click option from ubuntu. That folder contains multiple other folders. When I tried accessing it from a lubuntu machine, i got an error while opening an inside folder. What went wrong?16:58
babinlonstondd if=/dev/vda | ssh $babinlonston@192.168.1.6'gzip-> /tmp/image.gz'16:58
cipherboybabinlonston,  You did add a space between 6 and the apostrophe, right?16:59
cipherboylikewise, fairly sure your username does not begin with a $, so perhaps remove that too.16:59
babinlonstonno16:59
SicpI've downloaded 13.04 64-bit version and i burnt the iso, but when trying to boot it i get that Secure boot is not enabled and the DVD doesn't boot17:00
cipherboybabinlonston, then perhaps a better command would look like (on server): dd if=/dev/vda | ssh babinlonston@192.168.1.6 'gzip - > /path/to/resting/place/of/backup.gz'17:01
babinlonstonits shows some like usage: ssh [-12312341234123445456vdfdn] -b bind address ] [-c cipher_spec]17:01
ripplebitguys what's the best general linux distro?17:01
aimrcdsicp, check http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Secure-Boot-Not-Enabled-message-upon-attempt-to-install-Ubuntu/td-p/933473, ive had similar issues17:01
ubukouhey folks.. quick question can i use make a netbook use my ubuntu pc's Cdrom via usb?17:02
SicpWorking with a Lenovo here as well17:02
babinlonstonk17:02
ubukouhey folks.. quick question can i make a netbook use my ubuntu pc's Cdrom via usb?17:02
DJonesripplebit: You're asking in the #ubuntu channel, so any flavour of Ubuntu/kubuntu/lubuntu/xubuntu, if you want general advice, maybe ask in ##linux17:03
ubukouand think its an external one ? i need to use it in bios level.17:03
aimrcdubukou, depends on your bios/hardware capabilities17:04
DJonesripplebit: You could also ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is only for Ubuntu support issues rather than general chat/discussion17:05
ubukouwell its a netbook so im sure it has support for external cdrom via usb aimrcd17:06
cipherboyubukou, let me guess, booting install medium? Why not just boot raw usb?17:06
ripplebitDJones: OK just quickly what do you think of xubuntu?17:06
ubukouaimrcd, is there a software that i can run on ubuntu to make that happen?17:06
DJonesripplebit: I don't use it myself, so I couldn't give you any specific advice on it17:06
ubukoucipherboy,aim its a 7 cd recovery image. how that ? they sold me that and the netbook has no cd rom..17:06
ubukoucipherboy, aimrcd  sony power.17:06
ripplebitDJones thanks anyway17:06
cipherboyubukou, windows 7?17:06
aimrcdubukou, best bet is to just plug and try17:06
cipherboyubukou, there are tools to take cdrom to iso, and iirc, you should be able to burn iso of win7 recovery to usb.17:06
vnhi, how can I mount a network drive so that only root has access and not users?17:06
aimrcdubukou, if you want software, try unetbootin17:06
ubukoucipherboy, aimrcd i ll have the laptop on my hands shortly, yes its windows 7. but it is a propriatary sony software that accually formats and partions your disk the way sony wants it to be.17:06
FloodBot1!netsplit17:07
studiousNET SPLIT!17:07
studiousAHHHHHH17:07
euxnekswuhh17:07
cipherboyubottu, not sure, by you could at least try the usb...they should be fairly generic in layout unless sony created a whole custom install...but highly unlikely, so perhaps the usb boot would work, but not familiar with your specifics.17:07
aimrcdubukou, honestly, you shouldn't have issues the bios should recognize the cdrom as external storage17:08
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ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit17:08
ubottucipherboy: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:08
ubukoucipherboy, aimrcd i ll google them and see if i can find anything to fit my needs. until i have the laptop on my hands i cant know what will work. i hope that a simple have disk on an external harddrive will work and i wont have to use ubuntu pc as an external cd rom drive.17:08
studiousnetplits are Freenode earthquakes17:09
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Guest37623in linux why softwares are dificult to install17:09
babinlonstoncipherboy will this take all drives backup in VDA17:09
studiousthe tsunami comes soon after with the net join17:09
ubukouaimrcd, cipherboy i think ill there will be some problems cause its 7 cds. the installation will promt me to "insert disk 5/6/7"17:10
aimrcdGuest37623: not sure how to help you.  do you need help with specific software?17:10
babinlonstonand how can i restore the backuped datas to any drive vda  or sda17:10
cipherboybabinlonston, yes. Might take a while depending on size. 6mb/s for me on raw hard drive copy, but hopefully yours will be faster.17:10
aimrcdubukou: if you're using an exteral CD drive via usb, it shouldn't be a problem.  during boot, the bios will likely recognize the drive17:11
babinlonstonWow Superb cipherboy and please let me know how can i restore it to a sda or vda17:11
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d1gitalI've set up rssh on ubuntu server, and users attempting to log in, but blocked from shell access by rssh, are still being shown the System Information message.  How can I remove this?17:12
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cipherboybabinlonston, To restore, you have to take the server down and manually image the disk. Perhaps a hard drive swap or something of the sort.17:13
babinlonstoncant understand :(17:14
holsteinbabinlonston: i literally copy data over with a filemanager from a live CD.. grsync is an easy GUI for using rsync17:15
d1gitalbtw, /etc/ssh/sshd_config:PrintMotd no17:15
babinlonstonoh ok fine fine17:16
usr13babinlonston: To place the image on the [new] drive: gzip -d < image.gz | dd of=/dev/sda217:16
cipherboybabinlonston, well to recover, you cannot just do it "live", ie, while the system is running off of that hard disk. You would need to either to boot from a live medium (cd/etc) and do the disk image there, or perhaps pull out the hard drives and put them in another computer.17:16
d1gitalfound it; edited /etc/pam.d/sshd17:16
babinlonstonok17:16
cipherboyusr13, issue though is he is doing this live...sounds like he is imaging root of running server, which will work (in theory, hopefully) for the backup, but not necessarily for the restore.17:17
usr13babinlonston: you should look into using rsync17:20
babinlonstonok17:20
holsteini agree, and grsysnc is "easy" babinlonston , if you prefer a GUI17:21
babinlonstonno i want CLI , cos in office only have CLI :(17:21
babinlonstonand just now its finished there was a file in my desktop 10 GB file as backup.gz17:22
cipherboybabinlonston, is it only a 10GB hard drive?17:22
cipherboyOr rather, what is the size of the hard drivE?17:23
babinlonstonno its virtual machine17:23
cipherboyAh, explains. 10GB might be about right then.17:23
babinlonstonits 15 GB17:23
cipherboythen reimaging it should be easy.17:23
usr13babinlonston: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/09/rsync-command-examples/17:23
babinlonston:(17:23
babinlonstonk17:24
olivier_bKhow to install a software in busybox?17:26
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Frogging|workWhat happened to Nautilus? It's changed, and it's bad.17:27
holsteinFrogging|work: "bad" is a matter of opinion.. do you have a support question?17:27
Frogging|workWell, what happened to it? Why is it changed?17:28
Frogging|workFor example, I can't type into the window anymore and have it highlight files that start with what I typed17:28
Frogging|workMaybe there's an alternative file manager?17:28
navetzHi, I have an amazon ec2 ubuntu instance running. When I ssh into my instance I am attempting to ftp into another server to do create a backup script. I am not able to ftp into the server, I keep getting 426 Transfer failed. I've googled for a long time and haven't found the solution yet17:29
navetzam I possibly missing some ftp configs in ubuntu?17:30
Suryeis there any way in byobu to DC all other sessions? I hate leaving it on at home connected and having a tiny screen at work and having to manually kill off the ssh session17:30
Suryekirkland: if you're around specificly since I see you in the man page :)17:30
kirklandSurye: I added Alt-F6 to do that, in a recent byobu version17:31
Suryekirkland: Awesome, I'll see about updating. Thanks17:31
cipherboynavetz, why not use sftp?17:31
kirklandSurye: added in 5.3817:31
navetzcipherboy: it's not my server i'm trying to ftp into17:32
cipherboynavetz, I realize that. Perhaps check types?17:33
navetzcipherboy: what do you mean by types? I think i've found it might be an amazon ec2 security group thing17:33
Sakuyahey, all17:33
whoeverhi all, i need some assistance, i have a logiteck quickcam 5000pro but the  ubuntu seems to forget about it after a while. for example, if i restart my box , i can run my webcam, but if i say wait an hour after closeing cheeser or running gstreamer-properties, the webcam is never found17:34
SakuyaI can't seem to get Ubuntu to boot with secure boot enabled.  The installer boots fine, but it refuses to boot into the install unless I disable secure boot17:34
Sakuyaand secure boot seems to work in Mint, any ideas?17:34
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FloodBot1!netsplit17:35
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ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit17:37
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cipherboynavetz, ah, whoops, forgot about those. Possibly thinking of file transfer types (iirc, doesn't ftp support like ascii and binary), but take a look at security groups.17:37
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navetzcipherboy: i will, but i'm pretty lost right now lol17:38
Sakuyadunno if this got through with the netsplit...17:38
SakuyaI can't seem to get Ubuntu to boot with secure boot enabled.  The installer boots fine, but it refuses to boot into the install unless I disable secure boot, but it works fine in Mint, any ideas?17:38
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cipherboynavetz, sorry, my bad. did security groups fix it?17:41
WACOMalt_Hey folks. I am running wine in a headless environement, trying to install Mono21017:42
cipherboySakuya, I was just looking into that the other day for a user, let me see if I can dig up the link. What system though?17:42
WACOMalt_when I run winetricks mono210 I get errors about xserver17:42
navetzcipherboy: nope not yet. I'm not sure which ports I need to open for ftp.17:42
SakuyaRunning on an Alienware M17x R417:42
cipherboynavetz, iirc, isn't it 21?17:42
cipherboyyeah, 21 is ftp17:43
navetzcipherboy: yes, I have 21 open17:43
roothorickWACOMalt_: wine pretty much requires an X server of some description. said X server need not necessarily be on the local machine -- look into X forwarding via SSH17:43
navetzcipherboy: but I think they use some other ones for acknowledgement17:43
WACOMalt_roothorick, alas. I have done that before and it is certainly way too much effort for my end.17:44
WACOMalt_Thanks for the answer though17:44
cipherboySakuya, http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/secureboot.html17:44
roothorickWACOMalt_: there's X servers that act as simply a VNC/RDP server but they're even more work to set up...17:44
verses_hi17:44
ocxhello17:44
ocxi am tring to compile my new kernel and getting this error: http://pastebin.com/HkHbidd917:44
WACOMalt_roothorick, Yeah, I'm on windows, so hosting an XServer here is gonna be a pain :P doable, but a pain. the server is ubuntu obviously17:45
cipherboyWACOMalt_, roothorick could you tunnel X over say, ssh?17:45
WACOMalt_I could, but again Id still need an xserver running locally on windows17:45
verses_I can't boot into ubuntu 2d desktop. I am using 12.04 and recently I had to switch to ubuntu plain. What could be the issue?17:45
verses_Every time I login it17:46
roothorickWACOMalt_: they make X servers for windows...17:46
cipherboyTrue.17:46
roothorickwhich, yeah, it is a bit of setup17:46
WACOMalt_they do, and they all are terrible17:46
WACOMalt_:)17:46
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verses_Every time I login , it's the same ubuntu plain desktop  I see17:46
WACOMalt_Im just gonna make a small windows VM for this purpose, it'll be easier and run better17:46
cipherboyWACOMalt_, have the reverse option, create tiny vm of linux and do the reverse too.17:47
roothorickWACOMalt_: if your proc has VT-x/AMD-V it may actually be faster too17:47
Questhi, does this pen http://www.amazon.com/Genius-Wireless-Pen-Mouse/dp/B004R1PWCO   works on linux and will it show the writing on the desktop in some paint application as live as i draw?17:47
cipherboyGood point.17:47
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roothorickWACOMalt_: protip: QEMU. VirtualBox / VMWare are an utter BITCH to set up on a headless machine, and QEMU is faster anyway17:47
verses_hello bazhang17:48
WACOMalt_ok I'll keep that in mind17:48
WACOMalt_thank you roothorick and cipherboy17:48
SakuyaI was just wondering how well qemu/kvm worked versus vbox and vmware17:48
verses_bazhang , I hope you can find me the solution for this - I can't boot into ubuntu 2d desktop. I am using 12.04 and recently I had to switch to ubuntu plain. What could be the issue?17:48
WACOMalt_actually thats another question.. on a headless server, with say, qemu, I install windows 7, how do I control it?17:48
WACOMalt_or would I need to install windows server of some sort and have that be headless as well?17:49
roothorickSakuya: it's easier to setup generally, if you like CLI. It's also significantly faster for CPU and I/O heavy stuff. Primary downside? Graphics acceleration is completely nonexistent.17:49
roothoricki.e. it can't run gnome-shell or unity, period17:49
roothoricktoo slow for even llvmpipe17:49
roothorickas a rule, QEMU for servers, VirtualBox for desktops17:50
vnwhy not vmware for servers17:50
WACOMalt_that costs money doesnt it?17:51
roothorickvn: QEMU is straight-up open source, and might actually be faster17:51
vnblah...if its a criteria, ok17:51
roothorickit kinda surprises me how snappy my W7 VM on my server is17:51
WACOMalt_so for a headless server what flavor of windows should I be installing?17:52
WACOMalt_windows server 2008 ?17:52
vnE_WRONGCHANNEL17:52
WACOMalt_windows headless server running in qemu on UBUNTU17:52
roothorickWACOMalt_: hope you've got plenty of RAM... anything newer than XP / Server 2K3 will really struggle with <2GB17:52
WACOMalt_E_ThereIsNoRightChannel17:52
roothorickWACOMalt_: that said, I'm running W7 Ultimate and the lack of graphic support doesn't seem to affect it much. No aero but the UI is still pretty fast17:53
WACOMalt_is this in a graphical environment or headless?17:53
roothorickheadless, using QEMU's built-in VNC server17:54
WACOMalt_aahh so thats how it works17:54
WACOMalt_ok cool I'll do win7 then17:54
WACOMalt_thanks folks for the help17:54
Questdo i need a tablet like http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000LEI95I    or just a pen like  http://www.amazon.com/Genius-Wireless-Pen-Mouse/dp/B004R1PWCO    . whats the difference in _functionality_17:54
roothorickI custom-compiled it on debian though17:54
WACOMalt_Ok, I'm off17:55
WACOMalt_cya and thasnks folks17:55
roothorickQuest: I would not trust that pen. It's not going to detect hand movements that take the point off the paper.17:55
roothorickQuest: also the pen will never know its position, only whether it is moving. Tablets will pick up absolute position, even when the pen isn't making contact17:56
Questroothorick,  hm17:57
Questwhat about finger mouse?17:57
WACOMalt_one more question roothorick, should I do x64 or x86 windows? I havent done much virtualization, and dont know how it handles that17:58
roothorickQuest: if you want to do any kind of graphical/drawing work you will very very much so want a full-blown tablet17:58
roothorickWACOMalt_: on the host, check the flags in /proc/cpuinfo. Let me look up the thing17:58
WACOMalt_how.. do I check those flags? :X17:59
Questroothorick,  ok so the tablet link i pasted is good?17:59
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WACOMalt_4 cores17:59
roothorickQuest: I'm not really sure about quality. I only know the theory and I know there's been a certan rebellion against Wacom because their pens have questionable pressure sensitivity18:00
roothorick*certain18:00
roothorickWACOMalt_: under "flags", if you have "svm" or "vmx" use 64bit, otherwise 32bit18:00
roothorickWACOMalt_: also if you have the right flag pass --enable-kvm to qemu18:01
asdfmanHow do I install wine on my Ubuntu 12.10 x64 desktop?18:01
WACOMalt_ok I have VMX listed18:01
asdfmanI'm a windows user..18:01
verses_asdfman, have you tried sudo apt-get install wine?18:01
ocxguys, i am not able to update my ubunt...18:01
ocxW: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic-security/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]18:01
ocxlike 50 erris of such wuen doign ap-get update18:02
asdfmanverses yes but that returned an error saying Some applications could not be installed. Ended with "the following packages have unmet dependencies : wine:depends:wine1.4"18:02
ikoniaocx: it means that repo is not responding18:02
ocxwhat to do?18:02
ikoniaocx: well, you're using karmic18:02
ikoniaocx: so he's probably removed the repo18:02
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ocxand?18:03
ikoniaocx: karmic is end of life, so probably been deleted from that repo18:03
bazhang!eolupgrades | ocx18:03
ubottuocx: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades18:03
WACOMalt_is there a way using wget or curl to download a file from a page that does redirection? For example a site like download.php&id=117218:03
ikoniaWACOMalt_: It should follow it18:04
asdfmanverses_ yes but that returned an error saying Some applications could not be installed. Ended with "the following packages have unmet dependencies : wine:depends:wine1.4"18:04
verses_asdfman, I am not sure what that is  as I am also a normal user, what you can do is -           sudo apt-get update      and try the above command again   :)18:04
WACOMalt_ikonia, this is my path: https://fp-pr1.ds.microsoft.com/TransferFile/FileTransfer.dll?Cmd=1&MN=1354406671&Dir=1&Mode=0&Off=0&TS=71CFB061-C40B-40EF-8EC4-0D9CF2378B49&CVN=5,0,0,3218:04
ocxikonia: 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu18:04
ikoniaOxDeadC0de: so ?18:04
ikoniaocx: so ? I didn't ask for your kernel version18:04
verses_asdfman,  I know how frustrating it is to wait for hours and no one pays attention to your question , that's what I am dealing right now18:04
ocxthought that would helphyuo18:05
Blizzbobvirtual machine of ubuntu lagging: is the reason, that the .vdi is on an external usb 2.0 harddrive ??18:05
ikoniaocx: I've already told you the problem18:05
Piciocx: The version of Ubuntu that you are using is no longer supported, and has not been supported since 2011.18:05
ikonia!wine | asdfman18:05
ubottuasdfman: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu18:05
ocxok18:05
ocxits ubuntu 12,0518:05
ocx0418:05
ikoniaocx: youre repos are pointing at karmik18:06
ikoniakarmic even18:06
Piciocx: What does the output of lsb_release -d say?18:06
asdfmanikonia h....how do I open the software center?18:07
asdfmanthank you verses_18:07
ikoniaasdfman: https://help.ubuntu.com may give you an overview on the basics of using ubuntu18:08
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asdfmanthank you ikonia18:09
ikoniahope that helps18:10
verses_how often should I repeat my question?18:10
ikoniaverses_: 15 minutes or so18:10
verses_do you know why I can't login into unity2d Desktop? I am using ubuntu12.0418:11
verses_it takes me to plain desktop18:11
WACOMalt_is there any CLI web browser that supports logging into websites? I have triend links elinks and w3m on technet.microsoft.com18:12
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WACOMalt_all say I need to enable javascript18:12
ciatronHello, I was thinking of buying an ultrabook (maybe the samsung ativ book 9 plus or the sony vaio pro 13), can you please tell me how is the support for touchscreen on ubuntu?18:13
ikoniaWACOMalt_: I don't think thats the login, I think that's all the plugins/activeX objects failing18:13
WACOMalt_isnt activex only IE?18:13
ikoniaWACOMalt_: yes18:13
WACOMalt_cause I use the site all the time on a graphical linux via chrome18:13
verses_could be javascript18:13
WACOMalt_so.. not activex18:13
ikoniaWACOMalt_: you seem to be missing the point of what I'm saying18:13
WACOMalt_which is?18:14
ikoniaWACOMalt_: it won't be the login it's self, it will be the objects within the website not designed for text based browsers18:14
WACOMalt_the page displays fine aside from being able to log in, so that seems unlikely to me18:14
ikoniaWACOMalt_: well, considering I've logged into multiple basic sites with lynx, I suspect you're mistaken,18:15
ikoniaWACOMalt_: but if this is such a problem, I'd suggest not using a text based browser and use a fully supported graphical one18:15
WACOMalt_on a headless server, eh?18:15
ikoniaWACOMalt_: use a remote session sure, or download elsewhere and move to the server18:16
WACOMalt_its completely possible that you are right, Its just that the page specifically tells me that its javascript issue18:16
ikoniaWACOMalt_: javascript....there you go18:16
ikoniaWACOMalt_: not the login18:16
WACOMalt_yeah like I said...18:16
WACOMalt_"<WACOMalt_> all say I need to enable javascript"18:16
ikoniaWACOMalt_: so that's your problem, text based browsers won't support that18:16
WACOMalt_elinks says it does, but it doesnt18:17
riazguyz.. please help me.. i dont like this side bar in ubuntu 12.10... help me to rollback this into old pannelsremove18:17
ikoniaWACOMalt_: may not support the version of the script18:17
WACOMalt_well if that's that, then I'll give up on this approach. Thanks for the help18:17
WACOMalt_just my local internet is crap, didnt want to have to download 3GB file and send it from myself to the server18:17
WACOMalt_that will take all day18:17
a5m0where can i find runuser? i have coreutils installed but runuser is still not found?18:20
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mireyahel18:21
mireyahelp18:21
mireyahello18:22
Pici!ask18:22
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:22
verses_!patience18:23
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/18:23
mireyaspanish18:23
mireyahiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii !!18:23
DJones!es | mireya18:23
ubottumireya: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.18:23
mireyaok gracias18:24
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Sector_0hey18:27
steinDoes anybody know webcamstudio/gstreamer here?18:27
steinANYBODY?!18:27
steinMovie Error:  BaseSrc: [filesrc1],3, Resource not found.18:27
steinMovie Error:  BaseSrc: [filesrc1],3, Resource not found.18:27
steinwhat does this error mean?18:27
FloodBot1stein: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:28
steinI am trying to play a movie in webcamstudio but it doesn't show up, it gives me this error.18:28
steinit's an .avi18:28
ciatronHello, I was thinking of buying an ultrabook (maybe the samsung ativ book 9 plus or the sony vaio pro 13), can you please tell me how is the support for touchscreen on ubuntu? should i expect any issues?18:29
steinciatron, do you know webcamstudio18:29
trisma5m0: runuser looks like a fedora patch, it isn't in upstream coreutils (and coreutils removed su anyway which it was based upon)18:29
ciatronstein: no18:30
ciatronstein: can't help you mate18:30
stein:(18:30
T4CFantasywhat gpus do you guys have18:30
bazhang!ot | T4CFantasy18:31
ubottuT4CFantasy: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:31
T4CFantasyyes i know but you guys can answer these questions while noone is asking for help18:31
Sector_0I've noticed that before I first install the proprietary ATI binary for my ati radeon 5500hd redwood...the help box for the icons at the side are black, and after I installed the proprietary driver, it turns gray and looks a little different, but I had some issues with the driver and I (think) I fixed it and now the box is black again18:31
bazhangT4CFantasy, dont ask here18:31
verses_I asked for help ! so please ...18:32
Sector_0is this some kinda of graphic feature that is only enable when a 'decent' graphics card is enabled?18:32
Sector_0and if so does that mean that the proprietary driver isn't installed correctly?18:32
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a5m0trism: that is unfortunate, can you suggest any alternatives for running commands from a shell script run as root?18:35
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OerHeksa5m0, you can run a script as root, not some commands from that script, it is all, or none, AFAIK. see http://askubuntu.com/questions/153402/run-bash-script-as-root18:37
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a5m0OerHeks: unless you could use the runuser command :/18:39
a5m0or maybe calling some subscripts with different setuid?18:39
OerHeksa5m0, trism explained why you cannot.18:39
a5m0OerHeks: "could use"18:40
a5m0i am suprised about them removing su though, since that seems to still work on all my boxes18:41
Picia5m0: no one has removed su.18:42
Alucard__Hello  - i desperatly need some input  .. i tried ubuntu 13.04 on a live usb - my system is a windows 7 system. I pressed install ubuntu  (no option to have it dualboot) and came to the install process of setting timer. Realized i want to have it dual boot - took back all the way to live cd again.. then i tried to boot up windows - and it seems my mbr is gone.18:43
a5m0Pici: just quoting trism " and coreutils removed su anyway which it was based upon "18:43
Alucard__This is my fixk my mbr log - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5881745/18:43
Alucard__can anyone help me  .. how do i fix my mbr and get back to my windows .. so i can dual boot win/ubuntu18:45
dhavalhi18:48
mariusz_ave18:49
dhavali had an question18:50
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mariusz_?18:50
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Pici!ask18:50
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:50
dhavalwhere to report root exploit18:50
mariusz_!patience18:51
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/18:51
k1ldhaval: file a bug. but besides using irc as root isnt suggested either18:51
k1l!bug | dhaval18:51
ubottudhaval: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.18:51
dhavalthanks18:52
nurowhallos. Question. What is the easiest way to create an icon in the Unity launcher bar for a WINE application? I've tried searching for it and dragging and dropping it, but it disappears after I reboot18:53
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steinsuck my cock, nurow18:53
skeuomorfguys, so I read that the new kernel (version 3.10) is out and that it has support for AMD hybrid graphics, I have Ubuntu 12.10 with 3.5.0-36-generic kernel, I wanna upgrade my kernel to 3.10, how do I do that without breaking anything in my system?18:53
Xaseroncan i dd the ubuntu server iso directly to an usb stick?18:54
nurowwow18:54
nurowstein, what is your problem?18:54
k1lnurow: he got already kicked out. dont mind the trolls18:54
nurowk18:55
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trisma5m0: su is still available, ours is in the shadow source package, I mean upstream coreutils removed their su18:55
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OerHeksXaseron, sure, sudo dd if=/path/to/your.iso of=/dev/sd[THAT 1 LETTER]18:56
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lmatI have an external monitor hooked up to my laptop. How do I find its output name from xrandr?18:59
lmatxrandr only shows LVDS :(18:59
przemekhello do you know hot to set in megaraid bios, single HDD to be visible in ubuntu? i have raid 0 and i have added one more HDD19:00
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przemekand i want to see this disk like a single19:00
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lmatDoes xrandr read xorg.conf ? How do they cooperate ? If I set a setting in xrandr, is it reflected in xorg.conf ?19:03
vlad_starkovQuestion: Having RAID1 on 12.04 I just found out that sdb is failed now. `ls /dev/ | grep sdb` show only sdb, but it should show sdb sdb1 sdb2. Anyone know what's going on?19:10
sl3axHi to all. How can i set the default webcam to use in flash websites , if I have more than one?19:10
nurowhallos. Question. What is the easiest way to create an icon in the Unity launcher bar for a WINE application? I've tried searching for it and dragging and dropping it, but it disappears after I reboot19:11
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Spee_derHmmmm19:13
bladernr_Question: can someone clue me in how to turn OFF this stupid click to launch thing in Unity? If I have to search for an app I installed, and I then Click on that app, I don't think I really need to click a separate Launch button, launching is kind of implied.19:14
Voican i *execute* java commands in the terminal (System.out.println("hallo world"))19:14
* bladernr_ is running saucy, FWIW19:14
FuchsVoi: indirectly. You have to compile it (javac or similar) and then have java execute the resulting class file. You can technically put that in one single line, but it's a bit hacky. Why?19:15
icerootVoi: not like you do with bash scripts19:15
Fuchs(if you are looking for a dynamic interpreter such as python offers: no, since java is not an interpreted language)19:15
Voiok thanks19:15
k1lbladernr_: for unstable support better ask in #ubuntu+119:16
gonfimy hosting provider gave me a static ip for my vbox vm, and a mac address so they route the traffic directly to it. anyone familiar with that?19:16
gonfii follow their guide for setting this up but fail19:16
netlarIs there a detailed guide for the inner workings of Ubuntu?19:18
trisma5m0: though it seems runuser is in upstream util-linux now, so if bug 1012081 gets fixed before oct, might show up in saucy (as an aside)19:18
ubottubug 1012081 in util-linux (Ubuntu Raring) "util-linux needs updating to 2.22+" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101208119:18
bazhang!manual | netlar19:18
ubottunetlar: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/19:18
bazhang!rute | netlar and this19:19
ubottunetlar and this: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com19:19
Spee_DerGood day everyone.... ..19:19
Jagst3r15I do not understand this19:20
Jagst3r15I added the ppa to add source in software sources19:21
Jagst3r15https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/sublime-text-219:21
Jagst3r15now what??19:21
netlarThanks, I want to get to know all the details of the OS, not just a broad overview19:21
icerootnetlar: "all" the details is alot19:21
nurowhallos. Question. What is the easiest way to create an icon in the Unity launcher bar for a WINE application? I've tried searching for it and dragging and dropping it, but it disappears after I reboot19:22
netlariceroot: I know, just want to really dive in. I know I can just get to know linux in general, but really want to know the specifics of this distro19:22
netlarWant to try to be an expert of my own OS as it were19:23
Jagst3r15please anyone?19:23
Spee_DerJagst3r15 now that you added the source, I'm not sure if you are in a terminal or not, but if in terminal sudo apt-get update19:23
Voiim running 04.13 with gnome3 and alt+tab reacts quite slowly, is that normal?19:23
Jezzzhow can I show the boot services log?  they fly by too quickly at startup and I think one of them is throwing an error.19:23
icerootnetlar: then install the system and start hacking around with the system19:23
holsteinnurow: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles#Adding_a_.desktop_file_to_the_Unity_Launcher http://askubuntu.com/questions/13758/how-can-i-edit-create-new-launcher-items-in-unity-by-hand19:23
Spee_DerJagst3r15 sorry I am slow at typing....19:23
netlariceroot: yes I know, been doing that, but also do not want to be poking around in the dard19:24
holsteinJezzz: ppa's are not officially supported.. what is the issue?19:24
holsteinJezzz: sorry19:24
holsteinJagst3r15: ^^19:24
Jezzz:)19:24
netlardark*19:24
icerootnetlar: apt-get is a good start to know something about debian/ubuntu specific19:24
Jagst3r15now I should see Sublime Text in the software center?19:24
icerootnetlar: unity and upstart are ubuntu-specific, so you should also have a look19:24
netlariceroot: That will tell me about this distro?19:25
icerootnetlar: ?19:25
netlarapt-get19:25
iceroot!apt | netlar19:25
ubottunetlar: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE)19:25
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icerootnetlar: for details see "man apt-get"19:25
holsteinJagst3r15: there are detailed instructions at http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/sublime-text-2-ubuntu-ppa.html19:25
netlarok thanks19:25
Spee_DerJagst3r15 I think yes. I have added several PPA's for me needs and requirements as needed for development....19:26
isiah_sI am installing a driver from source, where should I extract the tarball?19:26
holsteinJagst3r15: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sublime-text sublime-text-dev19:27
Spee_Der<<-- is on the phone with customer again....19:27
holsteinisiah_s: i would follow the instructions at the site where you got the package.. what are you installing that is not in the stock repos?19:27
k1l!ppa | Jagst3r1519:27
ubottuJagst3r15: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge19:27
isiah_sholstein: I am installing a NIc card that is brand new and supports some features out of the norm such as iscsi offloading. After speaking to applications they told me that the only way is to build from source.19:28
holsteinisiah_s: then, they should provide you support? correct?19:29
holsteinisiah_s: otherwise, you can pastebin a readme if you need help parsing the data19:29
tasos77can i ask please?19:29
Picitasos77: don't ask to ask, just ask.19:30
isiah_sholstein: its a timezone thing, I cant reach them now. I thik I shoudl extrat it into a junk folder for now and see the README file for a proper location. Would that work?19:30
holsteinisiah_s: sounds like a great start19:30
tasos77hello19:30
rantic1tasos77: Hi19:31
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tasos77i cant run kde partition on ubuntu19:31
rantictasos77: Ubuntu or Kubuntu? and what do you mean by can't run? nothing happens at all? an error message pops up?19:31
tasos77i have problem with the password and i starts without administrative privileges19:32
tasos77ubuntu19:32
tasos77but i am administrator19:32
holsteintasos77: http://askubuntu.com/questions/24006/how-do-i-reset-a-lost-administrative-password19:32
tasos77i know my password19:33
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tasos77i can authenticate to install programs19:33
xjrnim trying to learn what restrictions /etc/init.d/couchdb would impose on couchdb that would cause repeatable apparent memory constraints that do not occur when running the same program manually19:33
k1ltasos77:  it should be the same password as your users password19:33
rantictasos77: That's authentication with gksu, which is probably set to sudo mode -- it doesn't mean you're acting as root19:33
holsteintasos77: sounds like you dont have a problem19:34
tasos77yes i enter my user password but not works19:34
rantictasos77: It says it's wrong?19:34
tasos77how i find root password?19:34
holsteintasos77: then, you can recover it, via the link i gave19:34
k1ltasos77: there is no root password in ubuntu19:35
tasos77so why kde asks for it?19:35
tasos77kde partition19:35
bekksKDE doesnt. KDE asks for the password of the administrative user.19:35
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tasos77are u sure beks?19:36
holsteintasos77: try it and see19:36
tasos77administrative user is the same as the administrator?19:37
bekkstasos77: I am.19:37
tasos77i enter my password but it says cant run command...19:38
holsteintasos77: what command?19:38
bekkstasos77: Whats the full and exact message?19:38
iceroottasos77: administrator is very user which is allowed to use sudo. and sudo will grant you root-access but you can not login as root directly, just start something as root with sudo19:38
ranticsudo != root, stop confusing him19:39
k1lwhere sudo should not be used for GUI programs. and not for everyprogram19:39
icerootrantic: there is nothing wrong in my example19:39
icerootrantic: as i said, sudo will grant you root-access19:39
tasos77what i have to write on terminal to run kde partition?19:40
iceroottasos77: you are talking about gparted?19:40
tasos77i want resize one partition with kde partition program19:40
ranticI think he's talking about KDE Partition Manager, or PartitionMan IIRC19:41
holsteinif we are clarifying, what is a KDE partition? one that has a kubuntu install on it?19:41
tasos77yes rantic19:41
tasos77kde partion manager19:41
tasos77partition19:41
rantictasos77: The terminal command to run it should be partitionmanager19:41
tasos77sudo partionmanager ? to type?19:42
Jagst3r15any idea how to execute a run.sh file>19:42
iceroottasos77: gksudo gparted   and when gparted is not installed (command not found) install it first with sudo apt-get install gparted19:42
rantictasos77: Could you first try running 'partitionmanager' and if that fails, 'gksu partitionmanager'19:42
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ranticgksudo* sorry19:42
icerootJagst3r15: chmod +x filename  and then ./filename19:42
netlarIs it bad to have ppa's?19:42
holsteinor is it kdesu ?19:42
ranticnetlar: Nope19:43
bekksholstein: In KDE, its kdesu19:43
bekksnetlar: Depends. They arent supported in here.19:43
tasos77sorry cant understand...19:43
netlarrantic: as long as I trust them right?19:43
icerootnetlar: they are not supported, you have to trust the software which is coming from there and it can break your system because it will mess up dependencies19:43
k1l!ppa | netlar19:43
ubottunetlar: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge19:43
tasos77plzz because i dont know commands does anyone know exactly what to write?19:44
ranticnetlar: PPA's can be thought of as firefox add-on or chrome extensions. Obviously some can break things ... but for the most part you're safe.19:44
bekkstasos77: You just have been told the commands, dont you? :)19:44
netlarHow about the conky manager? Is that ok?19:44
ranticnetlar: Absolutely.19:45
holsteinnetlar: "ok" and "good" are going to be matters of opinion.. would i run a conky ppa? sure.. are ppa's a potential risk? yes19:45
Spr1ngI'm investigating setting up an FTP server but not sure which program to go with.  Anybody have any suggestions on a decent FTP server service that is easy to administer?19:46
ranticnetlar: You're usually fairly safe with a PPA that well known ... especially one that provides it's source. We don't have nearly as many risks in the open source community because we can actually see if malicious code has been put forward.19:46
Spr1ngRunning 12.10 LTS19:46
holsteinSpr1ng: can you use ssh?19:46
Spr1ngyea19:46
netlarrantic: Got to love that19:46
holsteinSpr1ng: thats what i would do.. ssh server, and connect sftp or whatever19:46
ranticSpr1ng: vsftpd19:46
k1lSpr1ng: dont use ftp, that is old and insecure. use sftp with the ssh service19:47
AaronMT!gutsy19:47
ubottuUbuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) was the seventh release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 18th, 2009. See !eol and !upgrade for more details.19:47
Spr1nghmmm never heard of that before....19:47
Spr1ngI'll read up a bit before diving in.19:47
k1l!sftp | Spr1ng19:48
ubottuSpr1ng: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)19:48
ranticSpr1ng: I like Holsteins suggestion better unless this is a private network, then I'd recommend ftp for greater performance19:48
holsteinyeah, if its on a local lan, you might not care about ftp issues19:48
Spr1ngIt'll be web-based so security is a good thing to have in place.  I'm liking this suggestion so far but need to understand how it works.19:49
ranticnetlar: A good rule of thumb is not to add any PPA's that don't seem to have a following of a few hundred users ... and it never hurts to simply google them and see if someone mentioned something badi n the past19:49
ranticSpr1ng: Then you'd absolutely want to go with holsteins suggestion of SSH. The long story short is that FTP  transfers data unencrypted (even your passwords), whilst SSH encrypts this communication. There are other differences but that would be the main differential between the two.19:50
Spr1ngrantic: That's some solid info.19:50
PettyHey guys, could somebody help me, I got a really hard problem19:52
ranticSpr1ng: If I could recommend: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openssh-server.html, that should point you in the right direction.19:52
Spr1ngrantic: Awesome, I do have SSH access to my server so this sounds like a solid solution.19:52
vltPetty: I can help: You need a quite good solution.19:53
dak0Hello, how can I check when my Ubuntu OS is installed?19:54
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rantic_dak0: Do you mean when you first installed Ubuntu or when the install process completed?19:54
PettyI did install ubuntu 13-04 and now my computer keeps shutting down all time19:55
rantic_Petty: Hm?19:55
dak0rantic_: to be more specific I want to know how many years passed since I switched over linux19:55
rantic_dak0: The only option I see is checking the age of your file system19:55
PettyI just moved into Linux so a friend of mine recommended me to install Ubuntu, I download and install the lastest versin which is 13-0419:56
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PettyAnd now my lapt shuts down... all time!19:56
dak0rantic_: Right click > Propertis but I can't see date there19:56
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dak0Petty: Are you sure the Laptop is not overheating?19:57
ranticdak0: Try tune2fs -l /dev/sdXX  | grep cr19:57
serePetty: when does it shutdown?19:57
ranticdak0: Where sdXX is the hard drive and partition you originally installed on19:57
Pettyfirst time around 15 minutes after turning on... since then less than that19:58
wilee-nileePetty, You sure its not suspending?19:58
dak0rantic: sorry for being stupid not sure where is installed19:59
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serePetty: does it seem to work ok before the shutdown? are you getting any erros?19:59
ranticdak0: That's alright, would you mind running fdisk -l for me19:59
ranticdak0: You can PM me the results19:59
PettyIt works good before the shutdown and no, i don't get any error, it just turns off20:00
dak0rantic: Ok, thank you20:00
PettyCompletely, not even a suspention20:00
wilee-nileePetty, Or more than likely turning off the screen, look in brightness to see how it is set.20:00
vlad_starkovQuestion: Can faulty power supply unit be cause of SATA HDD failure?20:01
serePetty: it sounds like an overheating issue to me20:01
Dr_willisfaulty power can cause all sorts of weirdness20:02
Dr_willisas can overheating20:02
vlad_starkovok20:02
serevlad_starkov: yea20:03
Pettysere I had windows 7 before and it never happened to me, I guess you migth be right, how can I check the heat out?20:05
PettyIm totally new on Ubuntu, I just know pretty few things...20:05
vlad_starkovI've got one of 2 hdds failed in RAID1. And I can't see smartctl output of the failed HDD.20:05
dak0Petty: open terminal ( ctrl+alt+T) type: sensors20:06
bekksvlad_starkov: How man disks do you have in your RAID1?20:06
vlad_starkovbekks: just 220:07
dak0rantic: Are you still around20:07
bekksvlad_starkov: Then your RAID1 is dead now.20:07
vlad_starkovbekks: yep, I have only 1 alive HDD20:07
bekksvlad_starkov: Ah, "one of two" :)20:07
bekksvlad_starkov: Whats the exact command you are using to get HDD info?20:07
vlad_starkovbekks: I don't understand how it could happened as I changed both HDD to the new ones just 1 month ago...20:08
vlad_starkovsudo smartctl -a /dev/sdb20:08
brahmanaHi all20:08
bekksvlad_starkov: Did you ever hear "dead on arrival"? :)20:08
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brahmanaHow can I list all the available updates from command line?20:08
bekksvlad_starkov: And whats the output of that command?20:09
vlad_starkovbekks: http://pastebin.com/UnwBy8LL20:09
bekksvlad_starkov: That disk is dead, let it go, Jim.20:10
k1lbrahmana: "sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get upgrade"20:10
vlad_starkovbekks: hmm...20:10
brahmanak1l: I don't want to upgrade, I want to _list_ the available updates20:10
brahmana/s/upgrade/update20:11
vlad_starkovbekks: how could it happened? Am I lucky guy having "dead arrived" HDD?20:11
k1lbrahmana: well it lists the packages that will be updated and you can press "n" to abbort20:11
bekksvlad_starkov: How does it happend that something electronical breaks. It just does. And since the disk was working for about a month, it wasnt a DOA.20:12
brahmana:)20:12
brahmanak1l: That indeed is the case, but I am looking for something that I can use in a script20:12
serevlad_starkov:  if it was put close to a big enough magnet will do the trick20:13
euxneksbekks, vlad_starkov: it's better to have the HDD fail in the first month than to have it fail after a year also, generally if a HDD is going to fail, it's going to fail near the beginning of life or end of life20:13
vlad_starkovsere: no magnets20:13
bekkssere: That magnet must have been very big, and very strong. Like the ones used in labs, or particle physics. At home, you wont find a magnet strong enough.20:14
euxneksvlad_starkov, google did some neat statistics regarding HDD death, and in general, iirc, if a HDD is going to fail it will do so either at the end of expected life or near the beginning of installation.20:14
vlad_starkoveuxneks: OK. I have not so much experience with HDDs. Is really true that HDDs are about to fail in first month some times??20:14
euxneksvlad_starkov, it's not so common but I've heard that happening.20:15
vltHDDs fail.20:15
vlad_starkovbekks: this HDD is installed on server20:15
euxneksvlad_starkov, it's better that it failed earlier than later too :)20:15
bekksvlad_starkov: Thats irrelevant. Everything electronical may fail.20:15
euxneksvlad_starkov, it's probably covered by a 1-2 year warranty at least, so you should be able to get another one with RMA20:16
vlad_starkovOK. So how can I check the status of the last one which is still alive?20:16
brahmanaWhen I run apt-get upgrade some packages (Kernel packages to be precise) were held back. Why?20:16
vlad_starkoveuxneks: I bought this WD just a month ago. They provide 5 years warranty.20:16
euxneksvlad_starkov, don't take it as a fact that all HDDs will fail on you, I've had a 320GB chugging along for like 7 years.20:16
serebekks: true.. but you never know.. i have em some lying around for disabling security cams20:16
euxneksbrahmana, you can install those with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade20:16
bekkssere: A security camera isnt a harddisk.20:17
vlad_starkoveuxneks: ok20:17
serebekks: never said it was20:17
vlad_starkovThank you guys for helping me.20:17
vlad_starkovQuestion: how can I check the status of the last one which is still alive?20:17
euxneksvlad_starkov, also I would consider you a bit lucky because it failed early. There was probably a defect or shipping problem or something like that - it should be covered under warranty :)20:17
brahmanaeuxneks: aah.. those packages affect the install state of other packages I suppose..20:17
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bekks0716 221255 < sere> vlad_starkov:  if it was put close to a big enough magnet will do the trick20:17
bekkssere: You implied it could be done with a magnet lying around somewhere :)20:18
euxneksvlad_starkov, disk utility on the GUI should be able to look at the SMART data on the disk if it's reasonably new20:18
bekkseuxneks: The HDD is broken, it does not respond to data requests correctly anymore.20:18
euxneksbekks, vlad_starkov was inquiring about the other drives that are still alive though20:19
vlad_starkoveuxneks: http://pastebin.com/XeQ2CfeF20:19
bekkseuxneks: And the drive in question is dead.20:19
euxneksbekks, yeah20:19
serebekks: they can and i have some that will.. i agree that it is very unlikely for the AVERAGE person to have them.. just trying to throw everything out there.. you never know :)20:20
lonewulf85cipherboy, Do you remember yesterday when you were trying to help me with my lack of 3d unity log in?20:21
euxneks194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   121   112 < that isn't actually the temperature it reached is it?20:21
bekkssere: So which magnetic field do the strongest of them have, for you?20:22
bekkseuxneks: Thats a raw value. As all values shown by smartctl.20:22
euxneksah20:23
euxneksyeah I just saw the raw value20:23
tmsHey, anybody know off hand how to kill a pane in byobu? I expected it to be ctrl-a x, but it's not :(20:23
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MonkeyDu1ttms  ctrl a + k20:24
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tmsMonkeyDu1t:  <320:24
euxneksbekks, so what in that output said the HDD is dead?20:24
bekkseuxneks: 0716 220932 < vlad_starkov> bekks: http://pastebin.com/UnwBy8LL20:25
euxneksoh, I'm looking at sda's smart data20:25
euxnekshah20:26
vlad_starkovbekks: euxneks: sda is alive, sdb is dead.20:26
euxneksyeah I can see that now :D20:26
tmsohhh no no20:26
tmsI take back my <3!20:26
tmsI don't want to kill the entire window20:26
tmsjust a single pane that's become unresponsive20:26
FloodBot1tms: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:26
tms(I deleted the VM I was sshe'd into. Also, sorry.20:27
serebekks: i have only gone up to " 10 Tesla " ..20:27
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vlad_starkoveuxneks: bekks: how do you evaluate smartctl output of sda, is it ok?20:28
bekksvlad_starkov: Yes. You can also run a smartctl self test.20:29
cuddylierI am trying to bind IPs to my ubuntu server box but I keep getting the following errors: http://pastebin.com/8xA0hZJN and my /etc/network/interfaces file contains: http://pastebin.com/RZJzgxua When I try to add IPs on a different gateway it just shows the errors for eth12 and 13 as see earlier in this sentence.20:29
kirklandtms: ctrl-f620:29
vlad_starkovbekks: what is self test? Can I run it on live system?20:29
bekksvlad_starkov: Its described in the man page of smartctl20:30
Puma1337I'm looking for some software the tracks computer inventory.  for example which computers are assigned to which people and what hardware they contain but I haven't been able to find anything that matches what I need.  does anyone have any suggestions?20:30
euxneksvlad_starkov, if you're using a GUI you can get some more user friendly information by running the smart tests with Disk Utility20:30
ranticPuma1337: How is this Ubuntu? :o20:31
Puma1337rantic, its not but people who use ubuntu generally have good information =)20:31
wilee-nileetms, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Byobu20:31
ranticPuma1337: Fair enough ... i've used OCS Inventory with a great deal of success20:31
vlad_starkovbekks: ok20:32
Puma1337rantic, awesome thanks i'll take a look -- i knew #ubuntu could help me haha20:32
vlad_starkoveuxneks: I'm on console :-)20:32
euxneksvlad_starkov, ah20:33
vlad_starkoveuxneks: bekks: do you recommend to use `dd if=/dev/sda of=/tmp/sda.image` for disk backup?20:33
bekksvlad_starkov: No. That will take ages. Specify a block size sized as the cache of your disk.20:34
euxneksalso if tmp is on sda, won't that cause problems?20:34
bekksvlad_starkov: Or even use mbuffer, since that will work asynchronously.20:34
vlad_starkoveuxneks: you're right20:34
euxneksvlad_starkov, bekks I'd mount the HDD inside of a liveCD and make a backup to some other disk if I wanted to make a full disk backup20:35
euxneksvlad_starkov, there are probably better ways to do it though20:35
vlad_starkovI have another serve online in the same network, I'd like to make backup of sda for insurance.20:35
bekkseuxneks: Which is impossible in some situations, in terms of downtime.20:35
euxneksvlad_starkov, I just backup things like images and movies, everything else I can recreate in case of disk failure20:35
bekks!backup | vlad_starkov20:35
ubottuvlad_starkov: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning20:35
euxneksbekks, vlad_starkov is this a server or something?20:35
euxneksvlad_starkov, bekks speaks the truth!20:36
bekkseuxneks: I dont know. But he's using RAID1 at least.20:36
vlad_starkovIt is remote server20:36
euxneksoh20:36
bekksvlad_starkov: Then you cant boot a live cd :)20:36
vlad_starkovyep20:36
bekksvlad_starkov: That means "No, I cant".20:37
bekksvlad_starkov: So your dd approach is pointless since it will be inconsistent.20:37
euxneksbekks speaks the truth!20:37
vlad_starkovbekks: Ok, sorry for my language)20:37
PettyDid I say that I installed Ubuntu on a lapt?20:37
vlad_starkovbekks: I'll inspect your links20:38
bekksvlad_starkov: I just wanted to clarify :) You're language is pretty good, I'm not a native speaker either.20:38
euxneksvlad_starkov, you are both understandable - I am a native speaker20:38
euxneks+bekks20:38
PettyIm still having that annoying trouble20:38
vlad_starkoveuxneks: ok that's fine)20:38
bekkseuxneks: :D20:39
_joeyhow do i supress warnings in terminal after starting executable manually?20:39
euxneksvlad_starkov, can you visit that server?20:39
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vlad_starkovIf I have another exactly the same server, can I move hdd from old server to the new one? Will it work by default?20:39
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bekksvlad_starkov: It may, it isnt guaranteed.20:40
vlad_starkoveuxneks: sure I can. It's 00:40AM in Moscow, I think I can visit data center now.20:40
_joeythe good old tar (tape archive) is the best way to back the system20:40
euxneksvlad_starkov, the hdd which is dead cannot be revived20:40
vlad_starkov_joey: where to get one?)20:40
bekks_joey: Sometimes its not, in terms of inconsistency.20:41
_joeyit's a default application20:41
bekksvlad_starkov: "tar" is TapeARchiver :)20:41
_joeygnu is very consistent20:41
euxneksvlad_starkov, who set up the server for you?20:41
vlad_starkoveuxneks: I think that it could be hardware problem somewhere else in the server, may be this is power fault or motherboard sata controller...20:41
bekks_joey: But the backup maybe not. tar a large filesystem, and write some data onto areas which where already tar'ed. There it goes, your gnu consistency.20:42
vlad_starkoveuxneks: me20:42
euxneksvlad_starkov, if this is the second fried HDD in a row, you may be correct20:42
_joeytar can do incremental backups20:42
_joeytar is the best!20:42
vlad_starkoveuxneks: yepp20:42
vlad_starkoveuxneks: so I have to migrate to another physical server.20:43
bekks_joey: Which will not avoid inconsistency. As I already stated. In some situations, tar is useless.20:43
euxneksvlad_starkov, sounds like it20:43
_joeybekks: you don't make any sense. I mean the way you write doesn't make any sense20:43
MonkeyDu1t_joey  rsync -a makes incremental backups, too20:43
_joeyare you saying tar can not handle large datasets?20:43
bekks_joey: No one said that. I said: it may lead to data inconsistency.20:44
_joeyrsync is CPU intensive20:44
bekks_joey: And thats widely known.20:44
_joeywhich inconsistencies20:44
vlad_starkoveuxneks: what should be my strategy for migrating to the new server?20:44
wigumswhen installing ubuntu 12.04 will it offer to use my wired connection? i see it does ask for wifi but i only have wired20:44
euxneks_joey, vlad_starkov wanted to backup his root HDD20:44
bekks_joey: I gave you an example.20:44
_joeyI back up my fs on which /root is mounted too20:44
euxneks_joey, not just /root but /20:45
MonkeyDu1twigums  generally, ethernet is integrated in every modern OS, so it should work out of the box20:45
_joeybekks: you are rediculous who are using buzz words without understanding the terms20:45
wigumsi mean during the install in order to fetch new pkgs and such?20:45
_joeyeuxneks: you just stated root fs20:45
euxneksvlad_starkov, someone else will have to help you with the migration strategy20:45
bekks_joey: If you dont want to understand, or dont have any clue what data consistency is in terms of backups, please dont argue. Thanky you.20:45
MonkeyDu1twigums  yes, ethernet does not need special configuration, as opposed to wifi20:45
wigumsty20:45
euxneks_joey, yeah, root filesystem as in / <-- what do you call that?20:46
_joeybekks: it's not me who doesn't want to understand , it's you who heard the term inconsistent and unable to understand it20:46
vlad_starkoveuxneks: oh sure.20:46
bekks_joey: I've seen people like you losing there job after stating "no, you dont get that term right, we have a consistent backup". Good luck. EOD.20:46
guntbert_joey: move on please20:46
vlad_starkoveuxneks: bekks: thanks for help!20:46
_joeylet's see, what exactly do you mean by inconsistent in the context of backing up fs using tar , bekks ?20:47
euxneksvlad_starkov, sorry :\ I don't want to give advice and have you lose your data :)20:47
bekks_joey: I already gave you an example, and this discussion is EOD. Move on.20:47
_joeyyou didn't20:47
vlad_starkoveuxneks: it's ok20:47
benji_Hi All.20:47
_joeybekks: exactly, you have no idea as I suspected20:47
ranticbenji_: hI20:47
guntbert_joey: back to ubuntu support please20:47
ikonia_joey: do'nt be rude20:47
bekks_joey: Whatever. Finally move on.20:47
ikonia_joey: just bceause he chooses not to help doesn't mean he has no clue, so drop the attitude20:48
CRC43I want to pinpoint the default font that handles Thaana (Dhivehi) (Maldivian) language. Any help?20:48
benji_Was wondering if someone could give some advice... :)20:48
* _joey yawns20:48
euxneksbenji_, don't ask to ask, just ask :)20:48
benji_;)20:48
benji_Well, I am pretty much looking for a project that will better my Linux knowledge which ideally has a focus on some sort of networking20:49
ikoniabenji_: if you have a read of https:/help.ubuntu.com - it explains the basics of using ubuntu, however some the examples it shows you would be a good learning experience anyway ?20:50
euxneksbenji_, you want to contribute to OSS?20:50
holsteinbenji_: move something in the command line.. something simple i did was irssi for chat in screen20:50
steinWARNING: erroneous pipeline: no element "ffmpegcolorspace"20:50
steinwhat package do I need to solve this?20:50
benji_Well, I am using irssi in command line if that is what you mean?20:50
steinbenji_, WARNING: erroneous pipeline: no element "ffmpegcolorspace"20:50
steinhow can I solve this, bro.20:51
ikoniastein: stop20:51
steinikona, which gstreamer package do I need?20:51
ikoniastein: sorry - I'm not helping you, I'm telling you to stop repeating and singling out users20:51
steinI am sorry.20:51
ikoniastein: ask a CLEAR question to the channel and wait for someone in the channel to respond.20:51
steinWARNING: erroneous pipeline: no element "ffmpegcolorspace" - Which gstreamer package do I need to solve this?20:51
ikoniastein: ok, so also letting people know what version of ubuntu you are using would help20:52
benji_is that what you meant holstein?20:52
steinikonia: ubuntu 12.0420:52
ikoniastein: ok, now wait for someone to offer some help20:52
steinalrighty20:53
holsteinbenji_: i meant what i said.. that i used chat as an excuse to further my use of the command line. but running screen and irssi.. otherwise, you can share *exactly* what you are looking to learn20:53
k1lstein: you were already abusive today and got a ban for that. i consider you re read the guidelines and come back if you want to stick to them20:53
k1l!guidelines > stein20:53
ubottustein, please see my private message20:53
steinI apologize, k1l.20:53
guntbertbenji_: have a look at what ikonia sent you, if you have questions ask here, but keep in mind that *this* channel is for support and not for general discussions - you can visit #ubuntu-offtopic though20:54
benji_Ok, no problem.  Thanks for your help and patience :)20:54
adamnewbornhello20:57
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adamnewborncan anybody help me access an unpartitioned section of my hd so ubuntu can use it?20:58
Dr_willisyou would partion and format it using a tool like gparted then mount it adamnewborn20:58
Dr_willis!partition20:59
ubottuFor help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes l - For partitioning programs see !GParted, or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap20:59
adamnewbornok great20:59
Jaykay!ops20:59
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!20:59
bennypr0fanehello, updates is offering my an upgrade for Gnome shell: 3.8.2-1ubuntu2~raring1   installed version is: 3.8.2-1ubuntu2~raring2  is it just me, or is this actually a *downgrade*?20:59
adamnewbornthanks20:59
CRC43How can I find out what the default font for my local language is?21:01
euxneksCRC43, where is the font applied?21:02
euxneksCRC43, it's likely the ubuntu font family if it's the fonts used in the windows and icons21:03
CRC43euxneks: System21:03
euxneksa terminal?21:03
CRC43euxneks:  No. Folders naming etc...21:04
adamnewbornok so in GParted I have a partition in file system "extended" roughly 15 GiB. Any tips how i can make unbuntu see that? currently i have 4 GiB to work with21:04
CRC43euxneks:  Does ubuntu have every language in a single font file?21:04
LajjlaGood media player that isn't Amarok or at the very least doesn't leak memory?21:04
euxneksCRC43, they have a font file that defines glyphs of a large set of languages21:04
euxneksCRC43, do you want to change it or do you just want to know where it is on your system?21:05
lonewulf85adamk, Remember that issue that I was having yesterday with only having the ubuntu-2d option when I went to log in21:05
CRC43euxneks: Where can I find the file responsible /usr/share/Fonts/ ???21:05
CRC43euxneks: Yeah, I want to share the file with someone.21:06
ranticLajjla: VLC :d21:06
euxneksCRC43, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts#Manually21:06
euxneksCRC43, but the ubuntu font is downloadable if I recall correctly21:06
euxnekshttp://font.ubuntu.com/ CRC4321:06
lauratikapc restarts by itself and the message i get on a black screen sane network saned. anyone know what this is about?21:06
Lajjlarantic, I mean for music though.21:07
LajjlaVLC's music support isn't that great.21:07
CRC43euxneks: Okay. Many thanks. ;)21:07
lonewulf85Lajjla, Yeah VLC sucks for audio21:07
euxneksCRC43, glad to help I like fonts :)21:08
euxneksLajjla, maybe try clementine? http://www.clementine-player.org/21:08
jonesyI'm running 13.04 in a virtual box vm so I can run google directory sync (which, in spite of being written in java, doesn't run on osx :/). I'm finding the default desktop to be beyond unusably slow. Is there something I can change (preferably from within a terminal) to help?21:09
lonewulf85jonsey, Running ubuntu inside vmware really slows it down I do not think there is a way to speed it up any.21:10
jonesydamn.21:10
euxneksjonesy, maybe try lxde or xfce if you need a GUI21:10
holstein!nounity21:10
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, from 12.10 an up install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package. From 11.04 to 12.04, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic21:10
bennypr0fane... and should I perform that upgrade? I may have triggered it by a manual apt-get update21:11
ripplebithow do i wipe a usb that has partitions on it? Im getting errors in disk utility\21:11
holsteinthough, xfce or lxde would be preferable jonesy21:11
holsteinripplebit: i use gparted21:11
euxneksripplebit, I also use gparted21:11
ripplebitholstein: what command?21:11
jonesyxfce would work fine. I'll go that route. Just figured there might be some way to ease up on all the fancy rendering & stuff. Thanks for the input, all.21:11
AlanBelljonesy: there is21:11
euxneksjonesy, np21:11
holsteinripplebit: its a GUI.. i use gksudo gparted, and slect the device21:11
lonewulf85jonesy, Research wubi that work grate.21:12
holsteinselect*21:12
datnickmy external monitor does not work.I have a hybrid laptop intel and nvidia.the strange this is that it recognizes my monitor and when i am trying to use the monitor it seems i don't know that is working,i mean when i click on some opened program it does not appear on the laptop desktop,but the external display is not working at all,like nothing is connected21:12
AlanBelljonesy: inside the guest install virtualbox-guest-x1121:12
Lajjlaeuxneks, I so hate it when sites change their language based on IP or cookies or whatever with no clear way to change it back to English21:12
LajjlaJust because I'm on a Dutch PC doesn't mean I actually speak the langauge21:12
bennypr0fanejonesy I'd definitely go for lxde, it's even lighter21:12
euxneksLajjla, oh hah21:12
AlanBelljonesy: that means the guest will be able to use the hardware accelleration of the host graphic card, full openGL21:13
euxneksLajjla, hrm... scroll to the bottom of the page21:13
AlanBellif you check the appropriate box on the VM settings as well that is21:13
euxneksjonesy, AlanBell gives good advice if you haven't installed that stuff yet21:13
LajjlaOh yeah, thanks21:14
jonesyinteresting. Looking into that now. Thanks!21:14
LajjlaI was ctrl+f'ing for 'langauge' and 'taal'21:14
matt444Hi, my /dev/sda2 is mounted at /.  I've created a /dev/sda1 that I need mounted at /boot21:15
AlanBelljonesy: I have not tried that with an OS X host, but that certainly works for ubuntu in ubuntu, I think it should work fine21:15
matt444do I just copy the files over?21:16
euxneksLajjla, if you want to go old school try XMMS21:16
euxnekslike, OLD SCHOOL: http://www.xmms.org/21:16
euxneksAlanBell, jonesy I can confirm an ubuntu guest works just fine in an OS X host with the guest additions installed. At least, it did about half a year ago21:17
blackwolf__Morning World !21:19
jarvis1111a21:21
Lajjlaclemintine seems to work fine thus far, let's see if it starts to rapidly assimilate all my technological destinctiveness like Amarok did21:22
jarvis1111z21:22
ikoniajarvis1111: please stop that21:23
jarvis1111sorry, had it in a background window. didn't realize I was typing21:23
Dr_willismatt444,  created a /dev/sda1 ? You mean you partioned sda1? If you want sda1 mounted to /boot/ then you use the proper mount command, or alter your /etc/fstab21:24
Dr_willismatt444,  the use of a /boot/ partion is getting a little outdated these days. ive rarely seen it needed. except in special cases21:25
matt444Dr_willis: special case indeed, my /boot has to be fat32 so that I can install refind on it21:26
ikoniaerr no21:26
ikonia /boot shoud not be fat21:26
jose_holaaa21:26
matt444ikonia: has to be21:27
Dr_willisrefind?21:27
Dr_willisnever heard of refind.21:27
matt444boot manager21:27
kelly_hello guys21:28
ikoniaseems stupid21:28
matt444Macbooks won't boot without it21:28
ikoniado you mean refit ?21:28
* Dr_willis was guessing 'refit'21:28
matt444yes, refit21:28
matt444refit was abandoned21:28
matt444refind is the successor21:28
ikoniarefit doesn't need /boot to be dat21:28
ikoniafat21:28
kelly_is there anyway to download videos with Firefox browser not only youtube site21:28
matt444refind does21:28
MagicarpDoes the kernel affect the performance of a video card that uses the propitiatory blob driver?21:28
ikoniathen it has a massive bug21:28
holsteinkelly_: that will depend on content, and legalality largely21:29
Dr_williskelly_,  numerous video downloader extensions for firefox depending on  the sites21:29
euxneksrefind is a fork for refit: http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/21:29
bekksGoogle doesnt say a word about refind and macos :)21:29
euxneksbekks, http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/21:29
bekkseuxneks: Yeah, you just posted that :)21:29
euxneksbekks, didn't know if you saw that ;P21:29
ripplebithow do i mount an iso to my usb?21:30
ripplebitmount image.iso /dev/sdb doesn't seem to work21:30
bekksripplebit: mounting an iso to an USB doesnt make any sense. Do you want to copy that ISO onto the USB?21:30
wilee-nileekelly_, I like video download helper.21:31
ripplebitbekks: yeah i meant copy21:31
ripplebitis it just cp .iso /dev/sdb?21:31
ikoniano21:31
ikoniayou need to mount the disk21:31
ikoniathen copy the iso to the file system on the disk21:31
matt444So how should I approach this? mount /dev/sda1 to /mnt/temp, copy /boot over there, then add to the fstab?21:32
matt444that it?21:32
bekksIf you want tit to be bootable, you have to create a bootable usb device using that iso.21:32
ripplebitikonia: how do i mount my usb?21:32
ikoniamatt444: grub will need updating too21:32
ikoniaripplebit: normally mounts on the desktop when you login21:32
euxneksmatt444, where did you read that refind needs fat?21:33
ripplebitikonia: so ll i need to do is copy the iso?21:33
Pendrag0n1I am in the middle of the cryptmount cryptsetup man page, and I've come across the master-key argument.  I know I can have a mount file that is unlocked by 1 key and 1 of many passwords.  But now I am thinking that perhaps I can generate 1 password and 1 key for each of my staff that could unlock a cryptdrive, each unique to each staff member.  Is this correct?21:33
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ikoniaripplebit: I've just told you what you need to do21:33
ripplebitikonia: you said i needed to mount usb, which you knew was mounted. I was just clarifying21:34
matt444euxneks: it tells you when you try to install it21:34
matt444/boot/efi doesn't seem to be on a VFAT filesystem. The ESP must be21:34
matt444mounted at //boot or //boot/efi and it must be VFAT! Aborting!21:34
ikoniaripplebit: I didn't say I know it was mounted21:34
ripplebitsorry, implied.21:35
ripplebitanyway, i appreciate the help21:35
ikoniaripplebit: if you open nautilus you'll see if it's mounted21:35
Sakuyabah, something came up21:35
Sakuyadid anyone come up with an answer about not being able to boot secure boot when mint does?21:36
matt444what options should i use in fstab for my /boot ?21:37
ikoniamatt444: same as any other file system21:37
ikoniause another ext4 one as an example21:37
Dhello everyone21:39
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Guest53651can i ask Q ?21:39
ikoniaGuest53651: if it's about ubuntu, sure21:39
RedactedHashis there any backport for OpenSSH 6.2 on 13.04? Tried to build it myself but the build process fails on an undefined reference to consolekit_register.21:39
ikoniaRedactedHash: any reason you need that ?21:40
beandogRedactedHash: is there a dev package for consolekit?21:40
ikoniaRedactedHash: is there a problem with openssh on 13.04 ?21:40
Guest53651yes it's. how i can add repo to my ubuntu 13.04  WITHOUT synaptic OR ubuntu software center ?21:40
ikoniaGuest53651: what type of repo do you want to add ?21:40
RedactedHashikonia, edge case... need "AuthenticationMethods"21:40
Guest53651ppa type !21:40
ikoniaGuest53651: a PPA, a 3rd party ?21:40
ikonia!ppa | Guest5365121:40
ubottuGuest53651: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge21:40
Guest53651i mean from launchpad.net21:40
beandogRedactedHash: Oh my gosh, I saw that feature ... that is so awesome.21:41
beandogRedactedHash: Gimme one sec, lemme look at it21:41
Guest53651hosntly i dont even know what 3d party mean all i know is i want to add it to my repository lol21:41
ikonia!addppa | Guest5365121:41
ubottuGuest53651: Since Ubuntu 9.10, a !ppa can be added using a single command «  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name » See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20PPAs for more details21:41
RedactedHashbeandog, muchas gracias21:41
beandogde nada21:41
ikoniaRedactedHash: I'd be very suprised if there was an offical pacakge as it's not fixing a security bug21:41
Guest53651uhhhh ok thank you so much buddy. so... aafter i type that command in terminal should i do something after that ?21:42
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ikoniaGuest53651: what command ?21:43
euxneksikonia, it's probably the add-apt-repository command for adding a ppa21:43
RedactedHashikonia, I would too... its a nice feature addition but its really only great for edge cases like mine where I want to implement two factor as well as keys21:43
nimdAHKcan someone help me mount my ntfs partition on startup?21:43
beandogRedactedHash: You're running it on 13.04?21:43
Dr_willis!ntfs-3g | nimdAHK21:43
ubottunimdAHK: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions21:43
nimdAHKI know the general idea, edit /etc/fstab etc21:43
ikoniaeuxneks: why don't you let the person I'm asking which command he's typing tell me which command he's typing21:43
Guest53651sudo add-apt-repo... command, should i do something after that ?21:43
nimdAHKDr_willis: no, it works21:43
nimdAHKI want specifically to mount it on system boot21:44
ikoniaGuest53651: have you considered reading the URL that was given to you21:44
ikoniaGuest53651: so you can see exactly how it works21:44
RedactedHashbeandog, yup. but right now it only challenges for two factor with passworded login... want to make it a require for keys as  well21:44
Guest53651ok... ikonia << thanks buddy <321:44
SimoneHello, I'm Italian and I would like an Italian server, but I can not find any. you could direct me to a site or something similar? Thanks in advance21:44
RedactedHash<< paranoid as shit, lol21:44
ikonia!it | Simone21:44
ubottuSimone: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)21:44
ikoniaRedactedHash: that language isn't welcome here21:44
beandogRedactedHash: I mean, are you building it on 13.0421:44
RedactedHashikonia, sorry -_-21:45
ikoniaRedactedHash: not a problem, thank you21:45
RedactedHashbeandog, affirmative21:45
beandogkk21:45
beandogRedactedHash: What are you passing to configure ?21:45
SierraARSo, I've turned lubuntu 12.04 into a wenbserver. Not sure if I should feel accomplished or not.21:45
RedactedHashbeandog, same build opts as 13.10.21:45
beandogRedactedHash: what do you mean21:45
ikoniaRedactedHash: you'll find a few dependencies missing21:45
RedactedHashikonia, already resolved deps.21:46
ikoniaRedactedHash: are you sure21:46
RedactedHashikonia, moderately? lol21:46
beandogRedactedHash: Can you pastebin it for me real fast?21:46
bennypr0faneI can't believe noone can answer me. was something wrong with my question?21:46
holsteinbennypr0fane: let me scroll up and find it.. and you can try being patient21:46
beandogbennypr0fane: I don't even see your question21:46
RedactedHashbeandog, will do... few mins tho... on tech support call with a client21:47
beandogwhy is this not building with pamy by default ... silly thing21:47
beandogRedactedHash: kk21:47
holstein16:59 < bennypr0fane> hello, updates is offering my an upgrade for Gnome shell: 3.8.2-1ubuntu2~raring1   installed version is:  3.8.2-1ubuntu2~raring2  is it just me, or is this actually a *downgrade*?21:47
bennypr0faneholstein yes, that21:48
trismbennypr0fane: what is: apt-cache policy gnome-shell;21:49
bennypr0faneholstein: I'm patient alright. It's just that if nobody answers a question by this time (10-15 minutes) in a channel this crowded, nobody will.21:50
bennypr0faneso I wanted to check whether I was maybe asking wrong21:50
holsteinbennypr0fane: answers are not "guaranteed".. i know what i would do.. upgrade, test, revert if necessary21:50
holsteinbennypr0fane: look at my sources to see if any PPA's are causing issues.. try the policy suggestiong that trism made... etc21:51
trismbennypr0fane: you misread, it appears to be 3.8.3-1ubuntu2~raring121:51
trismbennypr0fane: looking at the gnome ppa21:51
ikoniaPPA what a surprise21:51
euxneksbennypr0fane, according to this: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/gnome_3/raring/main/base/gnome-shell raring2 is the more recent version21:52
euxnekserr21:52
euxneksI mean raring21:52
euxneksraring121:52
euxneksoh wait. ignore me. I'm an idiot21:52
bennypr0fanetrism, euxneks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5882337/21:52
ikoniawell that PPA is going to cause conflicts21:53
ikoniaenjoy !21:53
trismbennypr0fane: yeah, 3.8.2 -> 3.8.321:53
Ampelbeinbennypr0fane: yeah, 3.8.3 is higher than 3.8.221:53
bennypr0faneikonia what conflicts?21:53
holsteinyup.. 3.8.2-1ubuntu2~raring2 is older than 3.8.3-1ubuntu2~raring121:53
ikoniabennypr0fane: the gnome3 PPA with the gnome packages in the ubuntu core rpeo21:53
ikoniarepo21:53
ikoniaas you are seeing now21:54
bennypr0faneikonia yes, why will it cause coonflicts? what kind of conflicts?21:54
AmpelbeinThere is no conflict. bennypr0fane just misread the version number.21:54
ikoniabecause they are building packages which will conflict and dependencies which will conflict with the core repos21:54
holsteinyup.. you are on your own with the PPA's you use, by default21:55
lethargicLionhelp please21:55
bennypr0faneAmpelbein, I did not. I have raring2 installed, raring1 is being offered as an upgrade?21:55
euxneksbennypr0fane, Installiert:           3.8.2-1ubuntu2~raring221:56
euxneks  Installationskandidat: 3.8.3-1ubuntu2~raring121:56
beandogRedactedHash: I'm in the bg, just ping me when you get back; better yet, run ./configure with your opts, tee it to a file, and pastebin it for me21:56
euxneks3.8.3 > 3.8.221:56
SierraARbennypr0fane: Because the suggested updrade is version 3.8.3, and you currently have 3.8.221:56
SierraARUpgrade*21:56
Ampelbeinbennypr0fane: In my world 3.8.3 is higher than 3.8.2. I live on planet earth. Don't you?21:56
bennypr0faneoooooooh21:56
bennypr0faneapparently not21:56
ikoniabennypr0fane: why are you even using this PPA ?21:56
bennypr0fanedangit21:57
lethargicLionI have a text file with a few hundred lines of text that looks like this-> 7/11/13  123456789         going all the way down to the bottom, how do i cat | cut all the dates out of this text file? and also any number that comes after the middle set of numbers?21:57
ikoniabennypr0fane: why are you not using the stable packages provided by ubuntu21:57
holsteinbennypr0fane: you are not looking at the version #'s21:57
SierraARI'm assuming the raring1, raring2 may be something similar to 'Revision 1' or a hotfix or something of the sort21:57
AmpelbeinlethargicLion: with awk21:57
holsteinbennypr0fane: 3.8.2-1ubuntu2~raring2 is older than 3.8.3-1ubuntu2~raring121:57
bennypr0faneikonia there's a story to that, wnna hear it?21:57
ikoniabennypr0fane: not really, just seems like you have little idea how to manage it and it's going to cause you pain21:58
lethargicLioni have read the man files on awk and cat and cut, but im still not sure how to do this21:58
ikoniabennypr0fane: just wondered if there was a reason for it21:58
bennypr0faneholstein: that brain knot of mine was just untied. just a gazillion more to go21:58
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bennypr0faneikonia yes21:58
bennypr0faneikonia to remove it would mean to go back to Gnome 3.6, which might be a good idea, if it's gonna cause me less pain then dealing with the problems od this ppa21:59
bennypr0fanebut you kinda never know that in advance, do you?22:00
kelly_guys i need another video player , i tried vlc , totem but i want to try new one22:00
histokelly_: mplayer?22:00
holsteinkelly_: search a package manager and install what you like22:00
euxnekskelly_, mplayer is a great video player22:00
RedactedHashbeandog, http://pastebin.com/vjqxPBqu22:01
lethargicLionI have a text file that has dates in 01/01/1995 format going down several hundred lines and after each date is a couple of spaces and a set of numbers, how do i just take away the dates only?22:01
beandogRedactedHash: just drop --with-consolekit22:01
kelly_gnome mplayer = mplayer right ? euxneks22:01
bennypr0faneikonia for instance, if I purge that ppa, it means I'll have to do all the customizing I went through on this version again, from scratch, which is considerably painful to me.22:01
histolethargicLion: can you paste a sample of the text file to pastebin?22:01
holstein!info mplayer22:02
ubottumplayer (source: mplayer): movie player for Unix-like systems. In component universe, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc4.dfsg1+svn34540-1ubuntu4 (raring), package size 2599 kB, installed size 5111 kB22:02
lethargicLionhisto sure22:02
holsteinkelly_: ^22:02
ikoniabennypr0fane: just carry on, I don't care that you're using the PPA, that's totally up to you22:02
RedactedHashbeandog, I'll give that a try... any potential ramifications?22:02
histolethargicLion: you could probably just use the cut command and specify whatever deliminator is in your file22:02
beandogRedactedHash: eh.  you'll probably be fine.  What are you gonna do, pubkey + pam password auth?22:02
bennypr0faneikonia I know that, thanks. just answering yr question22:02
euxnekskelly_, gnome mplayer yeah22:02
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RedactedHashbeandog, yup... pubkey + google-authenticator via PAM22:02
beandogRedactedHash: yah you'll probably be fine22:03
beandogRedactedHash: however, I'd recommend installing it in a different prefix so you have two versions22:03
euxneks!info gnome-mplayer22:03
ikoniabennypr0fane: didn't ask a question beyond "was there a reason" you said "yes, but you don't want to know", I confirmed you are correct22:03
ubottugnome-mplayer (source: gnome-mplayer): GTK+ interface for MPlayer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.8-1 (raring), package size 432 kB, installed size 1776 kB22:03
kelly_euxneks, but it does not work when i open videos with gnome mplayer there is only black screen22:03
beandogRedactedHash: but that's totally up to you22:03
bennypr0fanesee guys, mine was actually an easy question, like I thought. Just my bad reading22:03
lethargicLionhttp://pastebin.com/eMsDtFpz22:03
bennypr0fanethanks22:04
euxnekskelly_, do all videos not play or is it just some?22:04
RedactedHashbeandog, I'll give it some thought... poke arounda bit and figure out from there. Thanks  for the help... I've gotta go pick up my fiancee so I'll be on later. Thanks so much.22:04
kelly_all mp4 files22:04
histolethargicLion: try cut -f 1 somefile.txt22:04
beandogRedactedHash: gl man22:04
euxnekskelly_, does vlc not play it either?22:05
histolethargicLion: cut -d ' ' -f 1 whatever.txt22:05
kelly_vlc working very well22:06
lethargicLionok22:06
lethargicLionthat scrolled just the dates22:06
lethargicLionhow do i remove them from the text file22:06
lethargicLion:P22:06
histolethargicLion: basically telling it to use space as the deliminator and to grab just the first field from eache line22:06
beandoglethargicLion: cat foo | awk '{print $1}'22:06
beandogoh, remove them22:06
beandoguse sed.22:06
beandog:)22:06
beandogOr just use cut to get all but the first.22:06
beandogcat foo | cut -d " " -f 2-22:07
beandogdone22:07
euxnekskelly_, perhaps you need to install the correct codecs then. Install the gstreamer bad and ugly plugins22:07
kelly_ok22:07
lethargicLionawesome dude22:07
histolethargicLion: how do you remove what from the list?22:07
lethargicLionyou are so smart :22:07
euxnekskelly_, I'm just guessing though, good luck :D22:08
lethargicLionthe number past the dates22:08
lethargicLioni outputed them to a file22:08
lethargicLionit worked!22:08
lethargicLioni did > output.txt22:08
FloodBot1lethargicLion: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:08
histobeandog: that's excessive use of cat there22:08
* beandog shrugs22:08
SierraARIf it works, it works?22:08
Jagst3r15where can I download the latest Nvidia drivers im on Ubun tu 12.0422:08
beandogright22:08
lethargicLionit sure did and i would have neve figured that out22:08
beandogtheres multiple ways to do it, anyway22:08
histolethargicLion: cut -d ' ' -f 2- somefile.txt > somenewfile.txt would get everything but the first column22:09
euxneks!info nvidia22:09
ubottuPackage nvidia does not exist in raring22:09
ripplebitguys i wiped my usb and now unetbootin can be read22:09
SierraARJagst3r15: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us22:09
SierraARJagst3r15: Might be able to find drivers compatible with Ubuntu in the Linux option of the OS dropdown22:09
da_miJagst3r15: You can also try apt-get install nvidia-graphics-drivers22:10
OerHeksSierraAR, those drivers are unsupported here, advise the driver utility22:10
Jagst3r15OerHeks this way? apt-get install nvidia-graphics-drivers22:10
SierraAROerHeks: K, sorry.22:10
superman_is it safe to completely remove Zeitgeist from Ubuntu, i don't want my actions being recorded by Ubuntu, such as files opened, websites visited, conversations hold with other people... etc22:11
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tigrangsuperman_, zeitgeist is local only22:13
wilee-nileesuperman_, You can turn off the history, and your description of what it does is not accurate.22:13
superman_tigrang, yeah, but i still don't really require what it is giving me, from my understanding it is suppose to improve user experience on ubuntu, just like how google improves user experience by logging everything you do and cater the google experience for you22:14
OerHeksJagst3r15,just type "restricted" in dash and the tool will show up in 12.0422:15
Jagst3r15OerHeks I see no tool22:15
nedbatI'm trying to measure how many machine instructions are executed by a program.  Is this something valgrind can do?  Or another tool?  Just a total count of instructions would be fine, more detail is ok too.22:16
euxneksnedbat, what, like assembly instructions?22:17
nedbateuxneks: yes.22:17
Dr_willisruns 100000000 nop instructions per second! :)22:17
euxneksnedbat, I don't know if that is possible but I will bow out at this point; I have no clue either way22:18
Jordan_Unedbat: gdb would probably be the place to look. What is your end goal?22:18
Dr_williswith multi core &  multithreaded  stuff.. I would be impressed if it was possible.. be even more impressed if there was an actual reason for  counting. ;)22:18
nedbatJordan_U: end goal is settling a debate about "how many instructions are executed when Python does 'print x'"22:18
nedbatDr_willis: that might not count as an actual reason! :)22:18
ripplebitwhy can i not format my usb?22:19
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OerHeksJagst3r15, you can find it in system settings too.22:19
Dr_willisripplebit,  just a guess.. you are not root, you are doing it wrong, or its bad and not partioned correctly...22:19
superman_i'm curious, has anyone removed Zeitgeist without "breaking" Ubuntu?22:19
Jordan_U!details | ripplebit22:19
ubotturipplebit: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."22:19
tigrangsuperman_, pretty sure you can disable the logging under privacy settings22:19
Jagst3r15OerHeks it says no are in use22:19
Jagst3r15but I have Nvidida22:19
superman_i found this removal tutorial regarding Zeitgeist http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200010822:20
Jagst3r15im 200% sure I have nvidia graphics :)22:20
OerHeksJagst3r15, choose one of the provided drivers etc22:20
netlarI am getting this message in dmesg: systemd-hostnamed[4076]: Warning: nss-myhostname is not installed. Changing the local hostname might make it unresolveable. Please install nss-myhostname!22:20
Jagst3r15I dont see any sir22:20
Jagst3r15it is blank!22:20
superman_tigrang, i'm not sure where to find these privacy settings22:20
ripplebitI have a problem with formatting my usb stick (which i deleted on gparted earlier). I try to apply a partition table but i get an error which i will post22:20
netlarIs that something to be concerned over?22:20
tigrangunder system settings22:20
amarhi22:20
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historipplebit: There error may be of use22:21
historipplebit: also the parted -l output would help22:21
ripplebithttp://dpaste.com/1306422/22:21
Cam!anyone > cam22:22
ubottuCam, please see my private message22:22
euxneksripplebit: "Device or resource busy" usually means the device is already mounted22:22
historipplebit: is /dev/sdb1 unmounted?22:22
Cam!poll22:22
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.22:22
Cam!details22:22
ubottuPlease give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."22:22
ripplebityes it is mounted22:22
Cam!gq22:22
ubottuAre you sure your question allows us to help you? Please read http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html to understand how to ask a 'better' question.22:22
histo!botabuse > Cam22:22
ubottuCam, please see my private message22:22
Camhisto, "See also !details, !gq, and !poll."22:23
CamIt should probably mention that in there too.22:23
histoCam: What?22:23
Jordan_Uripplebit: You need to unmount it then.22:23
Cam!anyone > histo22:23
ubottuhisto, please see my private message22:23
Camlook what it says at the end.22:23
euxneksripplebit, you need to unmount it before you can partition it :)22:23
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ripplebitah ok thanks guys22:23
histoCam: read the botabuse factoid22:24
Camhisto, I did.22:24
histoCam: then knock it off22:24
CamI would recommend adding it to the !anyone command though.22:24
histoCam: then suggest an update to the factoid22:24
Camhisto, relax, it told me to see them also.22:24
histoCam: yes and if you read the botabuse factoid you wouldn't be reading them in channel is what I'm trying to explain to you.22:24
Camhisto, yes but I read that factoid AFTER I ran those commands.22:25
histoCam: you can /msg ubottu somefactoid22:25
CamMaking it hard for me to uh... you know... go back in time and change things.22:25
roothorickso, I'm chrooted into a minimal install on a hard drive in a USB enclosure, I want to put GRUB on it without hosing my local machine, how do?22:25
Dr_willisthe update-grub command has an option to tell it where to put grub at.22:25
Dr_willis!grub222:25
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub222:25
Dr_willisyou would want to put it on the MBR of the USB hd.22:26
Dr_willisie: sdb or sdc22:26
Jordan_Uroothorick: Assuming you've properly setup your chroot by bind mounting /dev/, /proc/, and /sys/, "grub-install /dev/sdX" though you might also want to run "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" to make sure that the grub-pc package is configured to install grub to the correct drive (select a drive with space bar, continue with Enter).22:28
roothorickJordan_U: as long as this HDD will boot, I can go back and do it properly later22:29
roothorickJordan_U: thanks though22:29
nedbatLooks like "perf stat" will show instructions executed, but on my VirtualBox ubuntu, it says, "<not supported>" for instructions.  What do I need to do to get the stats?22:29
tasos77hello22:45
tasos77!22:45
holsteintasos77: ? whats up?22:46
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tasos77hi holstein22:46
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tasos77im reading ubuntu forums22:46
TechmanWhat the heck happened?22:46
TechmanDid I get kicked from this channel?22:46
tasos77its very difficult to use command line22:46
holsteinTechman: no.. not intenctionally, at least.. lots of splits right now22:47
tasos77one question22:47
TechmanThe flood bots is telling me that I'm not cloaked22:47
Techman*now22:47
TechmanAnd I already was cloaked22:47
holsteinTechman: you might need to -re-auth22:48
TechmanI am authed22:48
craigbass1976I can't figure out how to keep an sshfs mount alive.  Is there some magic ServerAliveInterval and ServerAliveCountMax numbers that will keep the connection alive?  I keep losing it and having to reopen any of the php files that I had open.22:48
Techmanjust whoised myself22:48
tasos77on ubuntu terminal when i process a file it says ^x for exit22:48
holsteinTechman: you might need to do it again.. i would just be patient as freenode puts out fire22:48
tasos77where do i write it?22:48
holsteintasos77: control X22:48
tasos77^ = control?22:49
DrekiSo my new room mate and I just got a comcast internet connection. Over my objection, we got a comcast modem-router combo device. But I am having trouble connecting to it with my Xubuntu laptop. I believe it may have something to do with the fact that you are required to connect using WPS. Has anyone else had this problem?22:50
holsteintasos77: try it..22:50
holsteinDreki: no, i have not22:51
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holsteinDreki: i typically setup all the routers on my own, to fit my needs22:51
wilee-nileeDreki, Hard to believe wep only. http://customer.comcast.com/help-and-support/internet/setting-up-wireless/22:51
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Drekiwilee-nilee: it isn't wep. Its WPS (wifi protected setup.)22:52
funkyheyllooo22:52
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funkywhere can I take daily linux classes?22:53
funkyfrom start22:53
holsteinfunky: try your local school.. or search online22:53
Drekifunky: maybe a local university22:53
funkyI though there is some famous once22:53
b14d3Hi all. Had a hard drive failure, restored to another hard drive from a .tar backup I had made, after the restore I get stuck at "Loading Operating System...." and it can't seem to go farther than that22:53
funkysay they get group of 20 and start22:54
marawan2hello people, do you know any good apps on the lubuntu software center22:55
funkyfor what?22:55
holsteinfunky: for literally the answer to the question you asked.. daily classes for linux22:55
ripplebitguys when i use unetbootin to put an xubuntu image onto usb and boot my computer, it says 'missing operating system'22:57
longwuyuan hi, please help, Raring on macbookpro, fan speed high, macfanctld not doing its thing22:58
holsteinripplebit: it?22:58
ripplebitholstein: the desktop22:58
holsteinripplebit: what i would do is, confirm the md5 of the downloaded iso.. format the stick before making it, and try again22:58
ripplebitholstein: how do i confirm an md5?22:58
longwuyuanripplebit:install to usb corrupted22:58
holstein!md5 | ripplebit22:59
ubotturipplebit: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows22:59
maslenIs it possible to use wget to download and save the first X bytes of each file? If yes, how do I do that23:02
Ubuh-Huntuhuse a script23:02
Ubuh-Huntuhpython, tcl etc23:02
maslenWhy would I want to write a script if wget has that functionality?23:03
partounian_Hey guys, I have a folder on a linux FTP server and it can not delete it nor rename it, any suggestions? I believe it is because of "\\\'s" in the name.23:03
tasos77thanks holstein!23:05
armstriI am having trouble with my ethernet connection in 12.04.  It seemed to work ok when I was running the livecd, but once installed it is not connecting to my router.23:05
tasos77sudo password and administrator password is the same?23:06
tasos77ive read this:Remove Password Prompt For sudo23:07
tasos77IconsPage/IconDialog-Warning1.png23:07
tasos77If you disable the sudo password for your account, you will seriously compromise the security of your computer. Anyone sitting at your unattended, logged in account will have complete Root access, and remote exploits become much easier for malicious crackers.23:07
FloodBot1tasos77: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:07
tasos77ok23:07
tasos77what is password prompt?23:07
holsteintasos77: its the prompt where you put the password in.. usually looks like this23:08
holsteinpassword:23:08
Slarttasos77: a password prompt is just the "enter your password now" thing..23:08
holsteinand you enter a password ^23:08
tasos77ok23:08
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tasos77sorry holstein for asking stubid things but i installed ubuntu today..23:11
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armstrianybody good with ethernet configuration? I am having trouble getting my system connected to my router.  It worked on the live disk, but once installed it won't connect23:14
holsteinarmstri: wifi? i would remove saved wifi access points and try again23:14
longwuyuanarmstri: look at output of "dmesg" for possible hints on interface events23:15
armstripredator117: Its ethernet, and I have messed with turning off ipv6 but to no avail23:15
holsteinarmstri: if you took updates during the install, you could have a newer kernel that is breaking support for your hardware23:16
RedactedHashbeandog, well, that was an exercise in futility.... removing consolekit opened up a whole new bag of worms. Know if anybody has had luck switching to 13.10 and not completely10 and not breaking NX server?23:16
armstriholstein: oh... I did take updates.23:16
armstriholstein: Should I just go ahead and reinstall the livecd?23:16
holsteinarmstri: thats a long shot "fix"... i mean, in theory, assuming that is the issue.. you reinstall, and dont take updates.. the network works.. you upgrade and its broken23:17
holsteinarmstri: you would then have an idea where to start.. but i would troublshoot with logs etc before that23:18
armstriholstein: Yeah that makes sense.  What should I be looking at in the dmesg output?23:18
holsteinarmstri: you can always pastebin it.. im not sure i would know23:19
beandogRedactedHash: dunno man, I wouldn't even pass *any* of the config options you had, except --with-pam and then put it in a separate prefix like /usr/local/openssh and just test it.23:19
longwuyuanarmstri: step1 = remove cable, step2 = type "dmesg -c", step3 = connect cable, step4 = type "dmesg ", step5 = pastebin the output of dmesg23:20
RedactedHashbeandog, I might try that in a few minutes... was trying to get it to compile into a deb. Probably biting off more than I can chew there.23:20
beandogRedactedHash: Yah, one step at a time.23:20
armstrilongwuyuan: ok cool, will do23:21
longwuyuanarmstri: wait for a while between step3 & step423:22
columbCould somebody help with bash? I need to select latest backup (.zip archive) and compare it with earlier backup to validate it (newer should be larger) and move it to somewhere.23:23
longwuyuanhelp. anyone on here using raring or quantal on macbookpro23:23
armstrilongwuyuan: ok I will23:23
longwuyuanraring on macbookpro…fan speed high….disk read/write almost freezes host23:24
maslencolumb: Look into rsync23:24
armstrilongwuyuan: there are only two entries in the log.  The first says eth0:link up (using the forcedeth driver) and the second says eth0: link becomes ready23:26
aaasso i can log into to another comptuer over my network using hostname in my brower because of samba winbind tells the network it's name and my other machine knows this because of the broadcast....i want two virtualhosts in apache (servername1, servername2) this works fine if I tell the hosts file in windows the ip for servername2... is there a way to have samba broadcast two hostnames so I don't have to modify the hosts file for all my other comp23:26
aaasuters (mobile devices)?23:26
RedactedHashbeandog, i'll give it a shot.23:26
columbmaslen, I don't need it on daily basis. Only in emergency situations.23:27
longwuyuanarmstri: step1 = open a terminal and type "tail -f /var/log/syslog", step2 = open another terminal and type "dhclient eth0", step3 = see new messages in syslog to know ip stuff (your card seems fine)23:28
longwuyuanhelp. anyone using raring or quantal on macbookpro23:29
holstein!macbook | longwuyuan is what i refer to23:30
ubottulongwuyuan is what i refer to: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages23:30
holsteinlongwuyuan: i gave up on it around 10.04.. too much hassle..23:30
zipyis it possible to rename a file to its old name when accidently changed by a programm?23:31
nieehi folks :) any one to help me pls? after restart my pc, i view this messages "device descriptor read 64 error 110" and after that not want to star again! any one to know how to fix this problem?23:31
JuulI need zipy only if you know the new and old names23:31
Juuloops23:31
zipyi know the new names but not the old23:32
Juulzipy, what kind of files?23:32
beandogRedactedHash: kk gl man, I'm outtas23:32
zipyfolders23:32
zipygot moved and renamed23:32
RalliasUhm... I have 48 instances of /sbin/zfs-fuse running and I don't have any ZFS filesystems on my machine... what are they doing?23:33
cipherboyzipy, stayed on same device?23:33
zipyyes23:33
zipyext423:33
cipherboyHm, typically the filesystem won't actually "move" them anywhere, it will simply modify the name descriptors/path, hence reducing time on the operation.23:33
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Juulcipherboy, but the name and path is exactly what zipy needs, and that has been lost23:34
longwuyuanholstein: i am newbie. what is "!macbook"23:34
holsteinlongwuyuan: its giving a link to the wikis for macbook support23:34
Juulzipy, any chance you can identify what they used to be based on their content?23:34
longwuyuanis it a irc channel23:34
zipyright i need the old folder names ^^23:34
holstein!macbook23:34
ubottuFor help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages23:34
longwuyuanaah ok23:34
holsteinlongwuyuan: ^^ the community pages.. its where i start.. not saying you will get a "fix" there23:35
longwuyuani have exhausted 99% hits23:35
cipherboyJuul, exactly; if it had moved across devices, there is a slim chance that it would have stayed in place on the old drive. ; zipy, Hence, if you did not know the old names, would be fairly hard. Depending on the type of program, (say, if it was a script of sorts), you might be able to look at it to determine what it changed what to, but other than that, probably not.23:35
longwuyuanholstein:thnx23:35
longwuyuanholstein: longshot i guess to hope someone here using it23:35
zipyi think it just used the mv cmd23:36
holsteinlongwuyuan: hang around.. i know folks do23:36
funkyhey folks I made new user and I plan to add him to group that can access 2 folders23:36
funkyI plan to add root to same group. is it safe?23:36
cipherboyzipy, Do you have the name of the program?23:36
JuulI need some kernel modules that appear to not be in any ubuntu packages in 12.10 and 13.04. I'm surprised to see that ubuntu does not include all modules (?). Can this really be true?23:36
Juulthe modules are l2tp_eth and l2tp_netlink23:37
holsteinJuul: dont be "surprised".. check and see if they are there, if not, they are not23:37
armstrilongwuyuan: Im not quite sure what I am looking for. Does this paste help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5882565/23:38
cipherboyJuul, yeah, typically it includes modules for the more main line, not for everything... generally people who need specialized support either build the module or the kernel....building a complete entire kernel results in a huge library and takes quiet a bit of compilation time.23:38
funkycan user be in two groups?23:38
aguitelhow to see panoramio photos in google earth ?23:38
zipycipherboy, i think sth like bulkrename23:38
cipherboyfunky, yep, easily.23:38
zipyor some kind of a mass renamer tool23:38
nieeoff thx for the support. may be the time, i need to go to slackware!23:39
cipherboyzipy, try looking in bash history then for what you did?23:39
zipyit was folders with pictures with the date place in it23:39
Juulach, got disconnected23:39
Juulnot sure my question got through23:39
longwuyuanarmstri: there is no dhcp server via eth0 interface. when you were on lived, were you using eth0 or wlan0(wifi/wireless)23:39
zipycipherboy, the prob is i didnt do that, i just got my external hdd returned like that -.-23:40
RedactedHashbeandog, interestingly with just --with-pam it builds perfectly. Was kinda hoping to build it into a full-fledged deb... but that doesn't seem probable.23:40
longwuyuanniee: please state problem here. i didn't see23:41
armstrilongwuyuan: there is no wifi card in the desktop, so I had to have been using eth023:41
cipherboyzipy, Hmm.... Unless you had a backup / general idea of what happened, probably not much to do, but it wouldn't hurt to check with testdisk I suppose on the off chance that it works.23:41
zipyguess i have to rename the folders manually23:41
nieelongwuyuan: after restart my pc, i view this messages "device descriptor read 64 error 110" and after that not want to star again! any one to know how to fix this problem?23:42
zipyye i thought of testdisk too but i think it only restores the data without names ?23:42
longwuyuanarmstri: boot from lived and compare logs23:42
zipyespecially folders :(23:42
cipherboyIt restores data without names, yes, but when you are browsing a filesystem, it shows names.23:42
zipyk i give it a try, thx23:43
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armstriok will do23:43
cipherboyzipy, Hence you could get some idea possibly of what it was supposed to be like, and write down a mapping to use to rename.  Another spare idea which likely won't lead to results is checking the hidden trash directory (usually ._Trash* something in the root of the drive)23:44
longwuyuanniee: research. for example http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=104991423:44
nieeok tnc23:44
nieetnx*23:44
zipyhm i try to recover with testdisk first23:45
zipyor photorec?23:45
cipherboytestdisk, but neither should modify the disk unless you tell it to.23:45
cipherboyzipy,  And I wouldn't actually have it modify the disk, I would keep a (physical/gedit window/etc) list of what you want to change to what, then you can do it.23:46
funkycipherboy: I used chown -R someuser:somegroup home/ to give user access to some dir inside www23:50
funkyinstead it changed all dir and files to him23:50
funkyok my syntaxt type23:51
funkytype23:51
funkytypo23:51
funky:D23:51
funkyfixed23:51
FloodBot1funky: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:51
Nogbitis there a room for general ubuntu discussion vs. this support room?23:51
armstrilongwuyuan: of course it doesnt work on the livecd now23:52
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f00bar80i've tried to create a symbolic link for /root/linaro/install/ in /var/www , but got 403 when tried to access it , any comment ?23:55
SonikkuAmericaNogbit: #ubuntu is for support, #ubuntu-discuss is for on-topic discussion about Canonical's plans for Ubuntu, and #ubuntu-offtopic is our break room.23:55
Nogbitthanks Son23:55

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