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NoSoundum.. Hi I installed xubuntu and I have no audio.. help??05:32
SunStaropen a terminal window and type lspci and look to see if you can spot what kind of audio  chip it is05:56
SunStar....delayed reaction05:57
Poisoned_DragonXfce has a panel applet that hides and restores programs on the desktop. Is there a terminal command equivalent or is this applets feature integrated into the panel?06:02
syn-ackGood evening guys. I have a Sony Viao VGN-Z610Y and I'm having an issue with trying to get my Plantronics Back beat 903+ stereo headset to pair and connect to the Pulse Audio Sink. This computer, has the Intel C2D/Centrino chipset in, running a completely up to date system and I have the output of my logs here: http://pastebin.com/uSABj7Kv06:05
syn-ackBasically, what it'll do through the interface, when I've got the headset in pairing mode is simple; it'll get to the device selection context, and when I try to assign it to the audio/headset sink, it reports back "Stream Failed"06:07
syn-ackNow the log is showing a "Cancel Device Pair" due to invalid Params, but what params would it be missing?06:08
syn-ackThen it shows a Permission Denied and Connection failed.06:09
syn-ackOR another thing it'll ask me for, is a password.. How the heck is that supposed to be done. I've been been going round and round with this for a couple weeks now and it's driving me insane.06:10
syn-ackNow, I know this works, as I was able to do it in Windows 7. I just can't figure out why it's not liking it here...06:11
syn-ackDoes Xubuntu not support HSP and A2DP?06:12
Yotsonwhich open-jdk version is recommended? openjdk-6 or -7?08:45
DeepfriediceYotson, What are you running?08:45
Yotsonxubuntu, firefox and an assortment java apps.08:46
Yotsonwas that what you were asking? :)08:46
DeepfriediceNo, What OS? 12.04? 13.04?08:47
Sysinewer 7 would be my first recommendation08:47
Yotsonlatest lts version, 12.04 iirc.08:47
DeepfriediceThen 6 is "officially" recommended, but I'd go with 7.08:48
Yotsonhmmm. installed -7, including the iced tea plugin. firefox seems to hang on java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp08:50
Yotsoni'll get rid of -7 and try for -6 instead. :)08:50
DeepfriediceYeah, that sounds reasonable...08:51
Yotsonah, not hanging btw. just painfully slow.08:51
Sysisounds like web java08:52
DeepfriediceIf 7 is slow, I doubt 6 will be quicker.08:52
Yotsonwell slow. seemingly hanging for a couple of minutes isn't really slow. it not functional. lol08:53
DeepfriediceI doubt there is a magic fix: try 6, if that's slow either put up with 7 or look into sunjava.08:55
Yotsoncorrect Deepfriedice. same behavior. Asking to run an applet, doesn't matter what i choose. keeps asking the question.09:04
Yotsoni'll read up on the sun version.09:05
dom_hello!09:15
Yotsono/09:15
dom_i've got a problem with firefox and youtube. i have reinstalled ff, turned on and off various add-ons, nothing help09:16
dom_youtube still doesnt work. the area, where the player should be displayed is just plain white09:17
nukkeare you sure you have adoble flash installed?09:18
dom_yes, that is what firefox and synaptic tells me09:18
dom_i installed xubuntu on this computer few days ago and this problem is since the beggining09:18
nukketry sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer inside a terminal09:19
dom_also, other online players doesnt work too - like those on bandcamp.com and such09:19
dom_whereas bandcamp works on midori, but YT still doesnt09:19
nukkebandcamp's player is flash-based.09:19
Yotsonalmost forgot. thanks Deepfriedice, Sysi.09:21
YotsonDeepfriedice, Sysi. added duinsoft.nl ppa, ...., installed oracle/sun version. all is fine. \o/09:23
dom_so, any ideas how to solve my YT problem?09:26
nukkedom_: try running the following command in a terminal: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer09:26
Abraham_Zapruderciao a tutti avrei bisogno di alcune info su xubuntu, specificatamente sulla procedura di installazione09:31
dom_nukke, i did it. terminal told me that flash is already in the newest version09:34
nukkedom_: inside Firefox, go to Add-on Manager > Plugins09:35
nukkemake sure shockwave flash is enabled09:35
dom_nukke, it is09:36
nukkedom_: you could try reinstalling flash. run the following (exactly like it is): sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-installer && sudo apt-get autoremove09:43
nukkeafterwards, run this command: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras09:43
nukkemake sure firefox is closed09:43
dom_nukke, in progress, thank you09:49
dom_ok, i did the first thing09:49
dom_then installed restricted extras09:50
dom_again got message, that it's already installed (well, i DID install them yesterday)09:50
nukkedom_: try just installing flash, then. sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer09:51
dom_nukke, yeah, i just tried to run yt and bandcamp. it didnt work but at least asked me to intall plugins. so let's do this! :D09:51
dom_nukke, damn, still doesnt work. flash installed and im back at the very beggining :(09:57
stoeptegeldo i need to be aware of any warnings when i want to install xubuntu on a UEFI BIOS? Are there other things to be taken care of while installing, like the new GPT MBR?12:25
stoeptegelwhat do i need to be aware of?12:26
JohnRobertxubuntu is great13:16
JohnRobert:)13:16
michaelstzexit13:27
stoeptegelJohnRobert: quite, isn't it13:48
JohnRobertyes, I recently wiped win7 off my thinkpad t420s13:49
JohnRobertit's insanely faster.13:49
JohnRobertfastest computer I've ever used now.. surfing the web is all kinds of new fastness :)13:50
[0gb_us]You can also mostly kiss viruses goodbye on Xubuntu. It has better security.14:01
SonikkuAmericaIt also works the best with Wine, according to my tests.14:02
JohnRobert:p14:06
JohnRobertwell I've used various distros in the past14:06
JohnRobertbut I think xubuntu is my fave14:06
stoeptegel+114:09
SonikkuAmericaIf I had a widescreen laptop I'd be using Ubuntu GNOME, but since I don't here I am.14:09
JohnRobertI like the simplicity of xubuntu14:10
JohnRobertmuch nicer desktop imo14:10
JohnRobertnon of that weird stuff14:10
[0gb_us]Yeah, for sure. Unity and GNOME are a bit wacky.14:12
Peyamguys15:01
Peyamwhat is the default double cllicking speed in xubutu?15:01
Peyamdubble*15:02
Pici*double15:02
Peyamreally?15:02
PeyamI though double was "double" in programming15:03
Peyamanyway.. what is the normal double clicking speed?15:03
Peyamby default15:03
PeyamTime and Distace15:03
elfy250ms and 5px I think15:07
Peyamthanks15:08
DriedOrangeI want to use the mail watcher panel applet for xfce. However it uses an old version of gnutls (used for TLS with gmail) that apparently has a security vulnerability. (no idea if it's anything serious though). Anyway, I'm wondering how I would go about replacing  old version of gnutls with new? old was preinstalled in xubuntu 13.04, new is available  in repository. don't dare to remove old because of some other pakages which would15:42
DriedOrangealso get removed with it.15:42
brainwashDriedOrange: can you please share source of your information (cve report,..)?15:50
luc04_FRsalut, il y a des francais ici ?16:04
luc04_FR#channel16:06
nikolamluc04_FR, hi, see "-fr" channels on freenode16:07
nikolam#ubuntu-fr-party , #ubuntu-fr  etc :P16:08
Pici!fr16:08
ubottuNous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.16:08
nikolamluc04_FR, maybe you could make xubuntu-fr ? :P16:09
luc04_FRok tank you16:09
nikolamthere is xubuntu-es already :p16:11
DriedOrangebrainwash, I saw it on the gnutls website: http://www.gnutls.org/security.html#GNUTLS-SA-2013-216:15
brainwashDriedOrange: and did you also read the changelog for the ubuntu packages?16:25
brainwashhttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/140841524/gnutls26_2.12.23-1ubuntu1_2.12.23-1ubuntu1.1.diff.gz16:25
brainwashso you shouldn't be affected by the vulnerability unless you did not update the package to the latest version (security update)16:28
DriedOrangebrainwash, oh thanks for that. As the recommendation on the gnutls website said to upgrade to gnutls 3.x I thought 2.x hadn't been updated.16:30
DriedOrangebrainwash, well well, it sorted itseld out. Thanks16:31
BMBiehleris there a different lock screen than just the screensaver?17:03
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xubuntu704hey19:52
djGrotheHello, after I upgraded to 13.04, now the graphics are in 16 bit, or maybe it's 8 bit. What should I do?20:10
Unit193djGrothe: Hello, can you tell us what card you have?20:17
djGrotheIt's something from Intel, beyond that, I don't know20:17
Unit193If you have the same card I'm thinking of, that's by design in SNA accel.20:18
djGrotheIt was never like this before20:18
Unit193https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1173649  I have a xorg.conf file to "correct" it for myself, you can look at the reasons and see if you want it.20:19
ubottuUbuntu bug 1173649 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "incorrect color depth - intel graphics card" [Undecided,Opinion]20:19
Unit193(One in the bug didn't help me.)20:19
djGrotheso... what should I do?20:21
Unit193You gain speed by leaving it at this bit depth, but you can "correct" it with http://paste.openstack.org/show/10yZETqTK71uJ9d28zYB as your /etc/X11/xorg.conf20:23
djGrothethere is no "xorg.conf" in /etc/X1120:28
bekksdjGrothe: You can create it then.20:28
djGrothepermission denied20:29
bekksYou have to use sudo or gksu.20:31
djGrothebekks: what command to create a file, then?20:32
bekksdjGrothe: What command did you just use?20:32
djGrothenothing, trying the gui20:32
bekksWhat exactly are you trying in the GUI?20:32
djGrotheto create a file!20:33
bekkshow?20:33
djGrotheright-click \ create document20:33
djGrothebekks?20:37
bekksdjGrothe: You can just start your favourite text editor with gksu and save that file.20:38
xubuntu711hey there20:45
djGrothebekks: the file is there with the paste in it, but now I have to restart my computer20:45
djGrothe?20:45
bekksYou just need to restart X.20:45
djGrothex?20:46
Unit193You can sudo service lightdm restart, or reboot, either one.20:46
xubuntu711is there any of the admins here  today i found a bug in the last update20:47
djGrotheok, thanks a lot for the help!20:47
xubuntu711help please20:48
holstein!ask | xubuntu71120:48
ubottuxubuntu711: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:48
Unit193xubuntu711: What bug?  Did you check on Launchpad for a bug report against it?20:48
xubuntu711no where is it20:49
bekks"launchpad.net"20:49
xubuntu711i am new20:49
holsteinxubuntu711: what bug?20:49
holsteinxubuntu711: what is the question?20:49
xubuntu711DHcp is gone broken20:50
bekksBEcause...? What happens when you do what exactly?20:50
holsteinxubuntu711: its working fine here.. what is the issue?20:50
xubuntu711was working three weeks ago before the last update now it  is not20:50
bekksIts not working? Sitting on the couch? Demonstrating for more money?20:51
holsteinxubuntu711: so, you updated 3 weeks ago, and then, after 3 weeks, it stopped?20:51
bekksWhat exactly is happening when doing what exactly?20:51
xubuntu711no i tryed to use wirerless and have not been able to gett it to connect to the out side world from my laptop20:52
bekksAnd how do you know its DHCP thats not working?20:53
xubuntu711i can ping there router20:53
bekksThen DHCP is working, if you can ping the router.20:53
bekksVEry obviously.20:53
holsteinwho is "they".. maybe "they" have a problem on the router20:54
xubuntu711maybe20:54
holsteinxubuntu711: i think you are assuming a DHCP bug, from what i am reading20:55
bekksIf you can ping the router, that thing is even working.20:55
xubuntu711my friend who is a systems admin says it is the dhcp it .20:55
holsteinxubuntu711: then, test and confirm that20:56
xubuntu711ok i will20:56
bekksChoose another friend, he has no clue. :)20:56
holsteinxubuntu711: im not saying your friend is wrong.. but, you can test and confirm that... if you can ping the router gateway, the you are getting an IP address20:56
bekksI am saying he is. :)20:56
holsteinbekks: i'm going to wait til xubuntu711 discovers he is ;)20:57
xubuntu711sorry i can not ping there router i said it wrong he just told me20:57
bekksholstein: :D20:57
holsteinxubuntu711: is this your router?20:57
bekksxubuntu711: So did you try to get a DHCP address manually?20:57
xubuntu711no20:57
bekksWhy not?20:57
bekksHow can you tell that DHCP isnt working then?20:58
xubuntu711i amnew i dont know how20:58
bekksWhats your network interface for wifi?20:58
xubuntu711my friend tested it20:58
bekksHow do you know if you dont know how?20:58
holsteinxubuntu711: how? by assigning a manually IP and testing? and the connection works?20:58
xubuntu711he did it and this is my laptop20:59
bekksOr just by running sudo dhclient interfacename20:59
holsteinxubuntu711: did what?20:59
bekksDid he run that command?20:59
xubuntu711i was at the skating rink using there wifi20:59
Sysidoesn't networkmanager break dhclient20:59
bekksxubuntu711: Did your friend run the above command, yes or no?21:00
bekksSysi: No.21:00
bekksSysi: NM uses DHCP.21:00
xubuntu711no21:00
bekksxubuntu711: Then why did you tell us he did try that then?21:01
bekksxubuntu711: Whats the name of your interface for wifi?21:01
xubuntu711orangepanda-guest and ip is 192.168.33.121:04
bekksThats not an answer to my question.21:04
holsteinxubuntu711: if you are on untrusted, unknown networks, you really get what you get.. you cant assume its an issue with the software or hardware21:04
holsteinxubuntu711: i routinely run into issues on public wifi... that are gateway related21:05
holsteinwell, not routinely, but i have *never* had an OS related DHCP bug be the issues21:05
Programmer_chromium will not save as the default browser21:05
Programmer_and how do you update the menu after an application is removed21:05
holsteinProgrammer_: try sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser21:06
xubuntu711ok i will go to mcdonalds and see if i have the same   issue then i will come back here21:06
bekksOr just answer my question...21:06
holsteinProgrammer_: http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu21:06
bekksNo need to eat instead. :)21:06
holsteinxubuntu711: that is not a trusted network either21:06
holsteinxubuntu711: sometimes, i cylce the wifi chip on and off manually as well21:07
xubuntu711i was going to reinstall21:07
holsteinxubuntu711: reinstall what?21:08
xubuntu711xubuntu21:08
Programmer_says google chrome is still installed21:08
holsteinxubuntu711: do what you like, but you are assuming what the issue is without testing21:08
holsteinProgrammer_: what says what?21:08
Programmer_the menu21:08
Programmer_i removed google chrome21:08
bekksxubuntu711: Why dont you just answer my question? :)21:09
holsteinProgrammer_: i would wait til you log out or reboot to really be worried, otherwise, you can edit the menu witht the link i gave21:09
xubuntu711i dont know what that is21:09
holsteinProgrammer_: you should report the issues to the chrome team21:09
bekksxubuntu711: Put the output of the command "ifconfig -a" into a pastebin then, please.21:09
bekksDoesnt seem to be that urgent. :)21:12
djGrothe_Hello, I am having a problem with Steam, it's windows will not display correctly, with half of it's controls plain gray. I asked steam support, but with no reply. Does anyone here know what to do?21:17
holstein!steam21:18
ubottuValve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their development, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion.21:18
holsteindjGrothe_: other than messing with the drivers, not really21:18
holsteindjGrothe_: steam suggests a PPA for drivers, are you using that? are you on what they suggest? 12.04 or whatever?21:18
djGrothe_13.0421:18
djGrothe_I don't know what a PPA is21:19
holstein!ppa21:20
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge21:20
holsteindjGrothe_: each time i launch steam, or when i did launch it, i had a pop suggesting the ppa i am suggesting21:20
holsteindjGrothe_: AFAIK, steam offically supports 12.0421:20
holsteindjGrothe_: all the ppa information is in that link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve21:21
djGrothe_k, thanks holstein21:23
xubuntu996Hello, I was wondering if xubuntu will install fine on my macbook pro 7,1?21:39
holstein!macbook | xubuntu99621:39
ubottuxubuntu996: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages21:39
holsteintry it live21:39
xubuntu996I've been trying to run it live21:41
xubuntu996but everytime i open the iso, I get "no mountable file systems"21:41
holsteinxubuntu996: open the iso?21:41
xubuntu996yeah the xubuntu iso21:42
holsteinxubuntu996: you can burn the iso to a disk.. using "copy". make a copy with the iso as the source and the disk as the destination21:42
holstein!unetbootin21:42
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent21:42
holstein^^ you can use unetbootin, though i remember having trouble getting a few macs to usb boot, so i used plop from cd, doing the same ISO process above to burn a plop boot cd21:43
xubuntu133!steam21:53
ubottuValve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their development, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion.21:53
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Sarah846Hello?22:12
knome!hello | Sarah84622:13
knomeerr...22:13
knome!hi22:13
ubottuHi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!22:13
Sarah846Hi...sorry, clueless about hwo this goes...22:13
Sarah846I have a query about a video tearing problem and my xubuntu installation22:14
nasirmy skype is not working pls help. i cannot login on the xubuntu app22:20
ThOr101So if I an VNC'd into a server, and the window manager fails (and I'm just a user).. is there a way to restart it? xdm claims it can only be run by root22:49
holsteinThOr101: can you ssh in?22:51
ThOr101Yes22:52
holsteini would ssh in and restart what i need.. or set it up to just forward x -X or whatever22:52
ThOr101And I have a terminal window open through the gui, just none of the minimize, maximize, and other window controls.22:52
holsteinthe gui?22:53
holsteinwhat GUI?22:53
ThOr101Yeah, I have a bunch of people VNC(ing) into the system, so X11 forwarding isn't optimal for this system.22:53
holsteinThOr101: i would argue, a bunch of people vnc-ing in is not optimal22:53
ThOr101Well, it looks like I have X started, just without a window manager.  I'm able to run apps, they just don't seem to have a window manager.22:54
holsteini would use something like nomachine or thinlinc or freenx.. rdp maybe22:54
ThOr101In this case, it beats going to each Mac and Windows box and installing Cygwin and whatever the extra packages are these days for Mac.22:54
holsteinThOr101: VNC forwards the desktop22:54
holsteinThOr101: there are clients for windows and OS for thinlinc, nomachine, freenx...22:55
ThOr101Hmmmmm, that's an interesting point.  I'd rather not use RDP.22:55
ThOr101Yeah.. I like that idea.22:55
holsteindont use it.. but mutiple VNC is a bad idea22:55
holsteinyou want something where the session is forwarded, not a picture of the desktop22:56
holsteintry nomachine22:56
* ThOr101 is already reading some docs. Thanks for the pointer!22:56
ripplebitguys I need help installing xubuntu. I've downloaded the image twice, burned onto usb, and everytime i get the same error when i try to boot: no operating system. please help23:43
holsteinripplebit: you dont "burn" a usb, so how are you making the stick?23:43
ripplebitholstein: ok i formatted the usb, created a partition (max size), then using unetbootin i put the xubuntu 13.04 image onto the usb, and it creates without error. But then i get the error when trying to boot23:45
holsteinripplebit: a fat32 partition?23:45
ripplebitcorrect23:45
holsteinripplebit: and the md5 sum checked out?23:46
holsteinripplebit: where are you getting what iso?23:46
Unit193What error?23:46
ripplebitfrom the xubuntu website23:46
ripplebitvia ubuntu23:46
ripplebit.org23:46
holsteinripplebit: what link please.. and what iso23:46
ripplebitholstein: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/raring/release/23:47
Unit193Ah, I see.  Did you go into the BIOS and set it to boot from the USB device first?23:47
holsteinyeah, thats is true as well ^^ you must have USB boot capabilities, and have it configured23:47
ripplebitUnit193: all i get is "no operating system", not sure if i can get into bios23:47
holsteinripplebit: you will have to get into the bios23:47
holsteinripplebit: you must be sure.. you must ask the machine to boot the USB.. otherwise, that is likely an error from whatever hard drive it is trying to boot23:48
ripplebitthere doesn't seem to be an option. on my laptop it's f12, but there's no os so can i still access bios?23:48
Unit193F1, F2, F10-12, Esc.  Try those.23:48
holsteinripplebit: there must be, or you must boot a CD23:48
holsteinripplebit: still requires setting that up in the bios, however23:48
SonikkuAmerica*DVD. Xubuntu can't fit on a CD anymore (13.04)23:48
holsteinsure.. *insert optical information here*23:49
SonikkuAmericaGrey eyes, 20/70 vision23:49
SonikkuAmericaXD23:49
holstein;)23:49
ripplebiti must be doing something wrong, cos i got archlinux to boot. but its a new desktop with no os with it.23:50
ripplebitdo i need to extract the iso?23:51
holsteinripplebit: it will be the same as it was for arch23:51
holsteinripplebit: no23:51
ripplebitholstein: i didn't use inetbootin for arch23:51
holsteinripplebit: you need to specifiy what device you want the machine to boot.. just as you did for arch23:51
holsteinripplebit: sure.. whatever you used for arch, that bios booted it.. if that was a CD or whatever23:51
holsteinripplebit: unetbootin is not the issue23:52
ripplebitwell it was the usb, which had a copy of the linux boot image (which worked), so that might be why arch worked, cos i formatted the usb  after that23:52
holsteinripplebit: fact: no matter what you are trying to boot, you need to set that either in the bios or with a popup boot menu23:53
holsteinripplebit: why did arch boot? because you specified to the machine to boot the media23:53
ripplebitright, well im not sure what or how to get the machine to boot the xubuntu image23:54
holsteinripplebit: the same way.. you select the USB as the boot media in the bios, or with a popup from the machine23:54
holsteinripplebit: on my eeepc, i press esc, and select it23:54
holsteinripplebit: or, i go into the bios, and set it as the boot device23:54
ripplebitlol ok i mashy6ed mhy6 kehy6board and igt5 worked! gt5hy6anks ;)23:56
SonikkuAmericaYou're... welcome?23:57
holsteinripplebit: sometimes you have to read it a few times.. to comprehend, or believe, or understand.. or whatever23:57
ripplebitim jusgt5 `used gt5o seingt5 some gt5exgt5 gt5ivingt5 me an opgt5ion of gt5hy6e bios, why6ichy6 i couldn'[-gt5 find.23:58
holsteinripplebit: each bios is different.. you can search for your machine and the bios.. you can try other keyboard presses for a temporary boot-popup.. you can try and read the screen at boot, and see if it says "boot selection press whatever"23:59

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