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| herophuong_ | Hi | 06:45 |
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| herophuong_ | I need some help on using juju on local machine | 06:45 |
| herophuong_ | I've followed the get started page on juju.ubuntu.com | 06:45 |
| herophuong_ | but the agent-state of mysql/wordpress keeps on 'pending' | 06:46 |
| herophuong_ | when I manually start the container | 06:46 |
| herophuong_ | it says 'Permission denied - Failed to make / rslave' | 06:46 |
| herophuong_ | what should I do now? | 06:47 |
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| bloodearnest | heya, using pyjuju and lxc, is there anyway to disable using apt-cacher-ng? | 09:52 |
| bloodearnest | is the incoming lxc support for gojuju using it too? | 09:52 |
| bloodearnest | FWIW, adding "Acquire::HTTP::Proxy::private-ppa.launchpad.net "DIRECT";' into /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/97disable-proxy-ppa did what I needed | 10:36 |
| marcoceppi | bloodearnest: I don't think it will, the LXC support is being re-written (and re-architected) but I can't say for sure either way | 12:23 |
| bloodearnest | marcoceppi, ok thanks. Looking forward to trying it out | 12:25 |
| marcoceppi | bloodearnest: it's been a long wait, but I hear it's landing really soon | 12:25 |
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| marcoceppi | Is there anything I need to do in order to get websockets to work in juju-core? | 14:06 |
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| stokachu | using the apache2 charm how would i install files to that instance after deployment? | 14:25 |
| marcoceppi | stokachu: if there isn't a configuration option for like a files repo, then juju scp would be your next bet | 14:31 |
| stokachu | marcoceppi: ok thanks ill look at that | 14:32 |
| noodles775 | Any charmhelpers reviewers able to look at these two MPs? | 14:32 |
| noodles775 | https://code.launchpad.net/~michael.nelson/charm-helpers/ensure_etc_salt_exists/+merge/170546 | 14:32 |
| noodles775 | https://code.launchpad.net/~michael.nelson/charm-helpers/namespace-relation-data/+merge/170575 | 14:32 |
| jcastro | evilnickveitch: both local and azure are landing in 1.11.3 | 14:36 |
| jcastro | we should probably sync with thumper or mramm as far as updating the docs, etc. | 14:36 |
| mramm | well azure is sort of not really there yet | 14:37 |
| mramm | I think | 14:37 |
| evilnickveitch | jcastro, yeah, I saw that. I will have to go back and put in all those references to LXC i took out :) | 14:37 |
| jcastro | oh, I saw it in the release notes draft | 14:37 |
| evilnickveitch | it is in the release notes | 14:37 |
| mramm | it will bootstrap | 14:37 |
| jcastro | oh, we should be explicit about that then | 14:37 |
| mramm | but it will not deploy services or something like that | 14:37 |
| evilnickveitch | okay, we should mention it as experimental | 14:38 |
| mramm | I will check in and make sure the notes get updated | 14:38 |
| jcastro | I mean we could just mark it tech preview or something | 14:39 |
| jcastro | evilnickveitch: can you mail cheney and try to coordinate landing the docs at about the same day he releases? We should do a nice announcement, etc. | 14:42 |
| evilnickveitch | jcastro, ack# | 14:42 |
| marcoceppi | mramm: what's the version schema, shouldn't a new provider bump to 1.12.0 ? | 14:43 |
| mramm | x.odd are development releases | 14:44 |
| mramm | x.even are stable releases | 14:44 |
| mramm | major version upgrades have some some sort of backwards incompatibility in API | 14:45 |
| marcoceppi | mramm: awesome, thanks! | 14:46 |
| ehg | hi guys, what should happen when i assign an elastic IP to an ec2 instance? should goju pick it up? | 14:57 |
| marcoceppi | ehg: unit-get public-address will work, but it might not properly appear in the status output, I believe the public address is cached in that output | 14:59 |
| marcoceppi | basically, everything will work. Only juju status might not reflect the change | 14:59 |
| ehg | marcoceppi: ah ok. i'm asking because we rebooted an instance and it lost its elastic ip, just wondering if that's juju doing it, or something we're doing wrong | 15:02 |
| marcoceppi | ehg: no, that's actually something that EC2 does | 15:02 |
| marcoceppi | IIRC | 15:02 |
| ehg | ah - thanks :) | 15:02 |
| * ehg <-- ec2 n00b | 15:03 | |
| ehg | is there any way to clear the juju cache? | 15:03 |
| marcoceppi | ehg: what do you mean by juju cache? | 15:03 |
| marcoceppi | For the juju status output? | 15:03 |
| ehg | and juju ssh | 15:03 |
| marcoceppi | Ah, I believe if you just use juju ssh <machine-number> instead of the service/unit denomination it'll use the correct address | 15:04 |
| marcoceppi | Otherwise, not that I know of | 15:04 |
| ehg | i seem to remember juju picking up the elastic public address, i can't remember what i did to get it to do that, maybe restarting some jujud | 15:05 |
| marcoceppi | ehg: it's possible, I've not really bothered too much with that though. I know the machines output will have the correct address, just the unit's public-address isn't updated (this was also several versions of juju ago that I came across it, haven't dug much in to it since) | 15:06 |
| ehg | marcoceppi: fair enough. i'll search for/open a bug - thanks :) | 15:07 |
| jcastro | hey evilnickveitch | 15:28 |
| jcastro | any thoughts on the developer.u.c resyndication? | 15:28 |
| jcastro | for the docs etc? | 15:28 |
| evilnickveitch | jcastro, tbh i haven't looked at it yet, busy rewriting the author docs | 15:30 |
| jcastro | ok | 15:31 |
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| jcastro | charmers sync up on G+ in 10 minutes! | 15:49 |
| jcastro | I'll be updating ubuntuonair.com too for people who want to follow along | 15:49 |
| pavel | jcastro, hello, can you give me a link? | 15:50 |
| jcastro | I am firing it up now | 15:50 |
| jcastro | I'll paste it in here in a minute | 15:50 |
| pavel | jcastro, ok thanks | 15:51 |
| arosales | jcastro, any way developer.u.c can just pull from the docs bzr branch? | 15:52 |
| jcastro | yeah probably | 15:52 |
| jcastro | I think I might just selectively pull | 15:52 |
| arosales | that we it is just happens with out us having to maintain another location. | 15:52 |
| arosales | s/we/way/ | 15:53 |
| jcastro | don't worry, I'll make sure we don't do that | 15:53 |
| jcastro | anything I figure out will be based on one canonical location of the docs | 15:53 |
| arosales | jcastro, much appreciated | 15:53 |
| jcastro | 15:54 | |
| arosales | evilnickveitch, fyi for Azure it probably won't need any changes to the docs yet. I"ll confirm with the red squad, but I don't think it is ready for the docs just yet. | 15:54 |
| jcastro | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/4e37f79d5ad469b475340d826e93cf3df4d64227?authuser=0&hl=en | 15:54 |
| jcastro | for anyone wanting to participate today ^^^^ | 15:54 |
| jcastro | in about 5 minutes | 15:54 |
| jcastro | everyone else if you just want to listen in on the charm meeting you'll just go to ubuntuonair.com | 15:55 |
| marcoceppi | http://pad.ubuntu.com/7mf2jvKXNa | 15:58 |
| kirkland | fyi, 404: https://juju.ubuntu.com/Interfaces/mount | 16:31 |
| kirkland | I'm trying to use nfs and the mount interface | 16:32 |
| kirkland | there's a number of pages that link to that address | 16:32 |
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| bbcmicrocomputer | marcoceppi: thanks for reviewing the liferay charm :) | 17:05 |
| marcoceppi | bbcmicrocomputer: no problem! | 17:05 |
| jcastro | evilnickveitch: where do people file bugs on the maas docs? | 17:07 |
| evilnickveitch | jcastro, the MAAS docs are included in the source, so they just file them on the project page | 17:08 |
| evilnickveitch | jcastro, why? do you have a bug? | 17:10 |
| jcastro | someone pinged me | 17:10 |
| jcastro | He's filing a bug | 17:10 |
| evilnickveitch | cool | 17:11 |
| jcastro | https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1202314 | 17:17 |
| _mup_ | Bug #1202314: discrepancy between docs and behavior <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1202314> | 17:17 |
| jcastro | evilnickveitch: ^ | 17:18 |
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| jcastro | http://blog.scraperwiki.com/2013/07/17/weve-migrated-to-ec2/ | 17:54 |
| jcastro | \o/ and they're using Juju! | 17:54 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: Awesome! | 17:56 |
| arosales | go ScraperWiki ! | 18:22 |
| arosales | jcastro, thanks for the link | 18:22 |
| * marcoceppi compiles latest juju, looks forward to local! | 18:25 | |
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| stokachu | marcoceppi: local w/lxc? | 18:34 |
| marcoceppi | stokachu: local lxc and juju-core! | 18:40 |
| stokachu | marcoceppi: nice! let us know how it goes i may try it out | 18:41 |
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| jcastro | marcoceppi: LXC report please! | 18:59 |
| jcastro | also, liferay | 18:59 |
| marcoceppi | meeting | 18:59 |
| jcastro | hey marcoceppi | 19:22 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: yo | 19:22 |
| jcastro | kirkland wants to do shared NFS storage like we do for wordpress for his charm | 19:22 |
| kirkland | marcoceppi: howdy | 19:22 |
| marcoceppi | kirkland: o/ | 19:23 |
| kirkland | marcoceppi: yeah, I need a basic charm, that uses NFS, for read/write shared filesystem storage across all units | 19:23 |
| marcoceppi | kirkland: WordPress implements the "mount" interface http://jujucharms.com/interfaces/mount which is provided by the nfs charm (and a few others not in the store yet) | 19:24 |
| marcoceppi | kirkland: did you just need an example, or did you have a question in particular? | 19:24 |
| kirkland | marcoceppi: I'd like a charm to clone, as a template | 19:25 |
| kirkland | marcoceppi: and then modify to my needs | 19:25 |
| kirkland | marcoceppi: how do I branch the wordpress charm? | 19:25 |
| marcoceppi | kirkland: if you have charm-tools installed you can use `charm get wordpress` otherwise you can use bazaar with `bzr branch lp:charms/wordpress` | 19:26 |
| marcoceppi | The WordPress charm is mildly confusing in it's setup. It's the result of pushing bash to it's limits as a language | 19:26 |
| kirkland | marcoceppi: is there a simpler charm that uses nfs for me to start from, then? | 19:28 |
| marcoceppi | OwnCloud might be a better example of a more wholistic view on how to handle the mount interface http://jujucharms.com/charms/precise/owncloud though it doesn't do a very good job of data preservation (ie, if the mount relation is broken there's really no data recovery and the mount point isnt removed) | 19:28 |
| marcoceppi | kirkland: owncloud is the only other charm that's actually in the store that uses the mount interface, so it's your next bet | 19:29 |
| jcastro | nfs shared storage seems like something we would do as a "cookbook snippet" kind of thing for charm authors | 19:30 |
| melmoth | actually, there are others http://jujucharms.com/interfaces/mount | 19:30 |
| marcoceppi | melmoth: those aren't actually reviewed though, so not "officially" in the charm store | 19:31 |
| marcoceppi | Definitely exist as examples, but take them as you would a grain of salt | 19:32 |
| kirkland | jcastro: yeah, I would think nfs and mysql should be the two brain dead simple integration points | 19:35 |
| jcastro | there's ceph in there too if you want to totally use a naval cannon on a nail. | 19:36 |
| AskUbuntu | Is it possible to use Juju without having sudo access on local machine? | http://askubuntu.com/q/321252 | 19:38 |
| jcastro | heh, timely question | 19:39 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: got juju-core compiled, about to give local access a go | 19:39 |
| jcastro | marcoceppi: save your history so we can use that as the docs for local | 19:40 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: ack | 19:40 |
| jcastro | marcoceppi: toss it in an etherpad when you're done, I'd like to try it too | 19:42 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro et all, here's the compile instructions: http://pad.ubuntu.com/rzudQRvsmw | 19:43 |
| jcastro | on it now! | 19:47 |
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| marcoceppi | jcastro: havent' gotten it to work for me yet | 19:53 |
| marcoceppi | but those are the compile instructions | 19:53 |
| jcastro | I am still downloading | 19:53 |
| kirkland | marcoceppi: okay, I've written my charm; it's in a directory locally; what's the current syntax for deploying from my local directory? | 20:06 |
| kirkland | error: Environments configuration error: /home/kirkland/.juju/environments.yaml: environments.openstack.default-image-id: required value not found | 20:06 |
| kirkland | meanwhile, juju also told me that that was deprecated | 20:07 |
| marcoceppi | kirkland: what version of juju are you using, what provider are you using? | 20:07 |
| marcoceppi | `juju version` (or `juju --version`) | 20:07 |
| kirkland | marcoceppi: ii juju-core 1.11.2-3~1414~raring1 amd64 Juju is devops distilled | 20:07 |
| kirkland | wait | 20:07 |
| kirkland | kirkland@x230:~/src/charms$ which juju | 20:08 |
| kirkland | /usr/bin/juju | 20:08 |
| kirkland | kirkland@x230:~/src/charms$ what-provides juju | 20:08 |
| kirkland | juju-core: /usr/bin/juju | 20:08 |
| kirkland | kirkland@x230:~/src/charms$ juju --version | 20:08 |
| kirkland | juju 0.7 | 20:08 |
| kirkland | ??? | 20:08 |
| marcoceppi | kirkland: that explains that | 20:08 |
| marcoceppi | and jcastro says update-alternatives aren't important | 20:08 |
| kirkland | marcoceppi: shouldn't those two conflict? | 20:08 |
| roaksoax | i think jamespage is handling the packaging | 20:09 |
| roaksoax | now | 20:09 |
| kirkland | jamespage: ! | 20:09 |
| kirkland | :-) | 20:09 |
| kirkland | marcoceppi: okay, I'm purging juju and juju-0.7 | 20:10 |
| marcoceppi | kirkland: no, you'll want to do this: `sudo update-alternatives --config juju` | 20:10 |
| marcoceppi | just select the proper juju version, 0.7 and 1.X can live side by side | 20:11 |
| kirkland | marcoceppi: shouldn't I be able to just purge it? | 20:11 |
| marcoceppi | kirkland: technically, maybe. I'm not sure how the packaing works entirely | 20:11 |
| kirkland | kirkland@x230:~/src/charms$ sudo update-alternatives --config juju | 20:11 |
| kirkland | update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for juju | 20:11 |
| marcoceppi | kirkland: heh | 20:11 |
| kirkland | marcoceppi: I'm reinstalling | 20:11 |
| roaksoax | purging it should work | 20:11 |
| marcoceppi | kirkland: ack | 20:11 |
| kirkland | okay, I'm going now | 20:11 |
| marcoceppi | update-alternatives worked at one point | 20:11 |
| kirkland | marcoceppi: okay -- now, I'm ready to deploy my charm from my local directory | 20:13 |
| kirkland | marcoceppi: and i'm on: kirkland@x230:~/src/charms$ juju version | 20:14 |
| kirkland | 1.11.2-raring-amd64 | 20:14 |
| marcoceppi | kirkland: can you just give me the output of pwd from inside your charm's source directory? | 20:14 |
| kirkland | marcoceppi: /home/kirkland/src/charms/john | 20:14 |
| marcoceppi | kirkland: so, if your charm is named "john", you'll need to add a series directory between charms and john, /home/kirkland/src/charms/precise/john | 20:15 |
| marcoceppi | as this'll be a local repository now | 20:15 |
| kirkland | okay | 20:16 |
| marcoceppi | aftera a successful bootstrap, you'll need to run the following: | 20:16 |
| kirkland | marcoceppi: k | 20:16 |
| marcoceppi | `juju deploy --repository /home/kirkland/src/charms local:john` which will default to the LTS series (precise) and look for the john charm in the "local" repository defined as /home/kirkland/src/charms | 20:17 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: there's a patch needed to get bootstrap working | 20:18 |
| * marcoceppi ducks | 20:18 | |
| kirkland | marcoceppi: okay, good, deployed | 20:24 |
| kirkland | marcoceppi: and I deployed nfs | 20:24 |
| kirkland | marcoceppi: now I need to add the relation? | 20:24 |
| marcoceppi | kirkland: now you should just need to `juju add-relation nfs john` | 20:24 |
| marcoceppi | You can inspect the deployments by shelling directly in to them with juju ssh john/0 or juju ssh nfs/0 (<service>/<unit num>) | 20:25 |
| marcoceppi | there's a log in /var/log/juju/unit*.log that shows you the hook output if you need to debug things | 20:25 |
| kirkland | marcoceppi: okay, nice, I have john and nfs up, related, and john has mounted the nfs volume | 20:27 |
| marcoceppi | kirkland: nice! | 20:27 |
| marcoceppi | kirkland: what you can do now is `juju add-unit john` you'll get another john unit (john/1) and when it spins up it'll be mounted to the same NFS point | 20:28 |
| kirkland | marcoceppi: right | 20:28 |
| marcoceppi | each subsequent unit will get the same relation stuff, etc | 20:28 |
| kirkland | marcoceppi: that's the idea ;-) | 20:28 |
| marcoceppi | kirkland: sweet, let us know if you have any other questions! | 20:28 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: http://i.imgur.com/RfhvxBv.png | 20:41 |
| thumper | jcastro: morning | 20:56 |
| thumper | jcastro: there are a few rough edges with the local provider | 20:56 |
| jcastro | thumper: wanna hop on G+ and sync up? | 20:56 |
| thumper | jcastro: in particular addressing, but also the containers don't restart with the machine yet | 20:57 |
| thumper | sure | 20:57 |
| thumper | jcastro: you start one? | 20:57 |
| jcastro | yeah one sec | 20:57 |
| jcastro | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/b99ee2ffdc84a9d7b0fb2eb8e45c88e1c65c771c?hl=en | 20:57 |
| jcastro | marcoceppi: ^^^ | 20:58 |
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