[11:01] <k1l_> stein got too much sparetime, i think
[11:01] <ikonia> he's sending me sad abuse in pm
[11:01] <ikonia> I'm a retarded fucking faggot etc etc
[16:10] <Pici> !info libselinux1
[16:16] <Pici> libselinux is required, even though selinux itself is not.
[16:17] <Pici> troll anyway
[16:17] <IdleOne> what uses libselinux?
[16:17] <Pici> /etc/pam.d/login mentions it.
[16:17] <ikonia> Pici: just about to check this in a bit more detail
[16:17] <Pici> It looks like its just there to probe whether selinux is enabled though.
[16:18] <k1l> its just there because other programs are prepared for using selinux
[16:18] <k1l> and they error if the files are missing
[16:18] <Pici> aye.
[16:18] <k1l> so that doesnt mean its installed or activate
[16:18] <k1l> d
[16:19] <k1l> but when people going mad when they read its from the nsa they are not listening to facts anymore
[16:29] <ikonia> looks like it's simple enough to disable the check for selinux
[16:29] <ikonia> as long as it's disabled via pam it works
[16:30] <ikonia> just testing it now
[16:30] <Pici> that would make sense
[16:32] <k1l> some month ago it was: "wth does ubuntu not use selinux?" now its "wth does ubuntu have a file which name contains selinux?"  :/
[16:32] <Pici> now its all "help help I'm being observed"
[16:32] <ikonia> this is such utter nonsense
[16:33] <ikonia> selinux is excellent, and anoyne thinkig it's spyware needs to get a grip
[16:33] <ikonia> ok - it works if you disable in pam
[16:33] <ikonia> it's not as simple as I'd hoped to disable it
[16:33] <ikonia> but it does work if you do it properly
[16:33] <k1l> yes, i dont think selinux is bad just because its from nsa , too
[16:34] <ikonia> I'm not going to put it on the wiki as I see paranoid fools rushing to make a mess of it
[16:34] <ikonia> also has to be disabled in ssh checks too
[16:34] <ikonia> (assuming you wanted to purge it totally)
[16:35] <Pici> If it does have a backdoor, then all the smart people who have looked at the source haven't found one yet.
[16:36] <ikonia> bottom line - banks use it, it's ok
[16:51] <Pici> NSA
[16:51] <ikonia> the mail guy ?
[16:51] <Pici> semper again
[16:51] <ikonia> ooh
[17:53] <chadthedude> !ops - elky is abusing
[17:53] <chadthedude> !ops
[17:53] <chadthedude> !ops
[17:53] <chadthedude> COMEEEEE
[17:53] <chadthedude> SOMEBODY HELP
[17:53] <chadthedude> !ops
[17:53] <Corey> chadthedude: WHAT?
[17:53] <chadthedude> COREY
[17:53] <chadthedude> COREY, ARE YOU HERE
[17:54] <chadthedude> ANY OP HERE?
[17:54] <Corey> chadthedude: That's about enough.
[17:54] <chadthedude> corey, there is problem
[17:54] <chadthedude> with nickserv
[17:54] <Corey> chadthedude: How is this a #ubuntu-ops issue?
[17:55] <chadthedude> cause this room is full of ops
[17:55] <Corey> Channel ops, yes.
[17:55] <Corey> Network issues in #freenode, please.
[17:55] <Corey> chadthedude: If there's nothing else, please /part
[17:55] <chadthedude> i got banned
[17:55] <chadthedude> in #ubuntu
[17:55] <chadthedude> for abusing an user.
[17:56] <Corey> 10:54:36 -!- Irssi: There does not appear to be anything preventing chadthedude from joining/talking in #ubuntu
[17:56] <chadthedude> sorry
[17:56] <stein> I am stein
[17:56] <stein> k1l banned me
[17:56] <stein> oh i can go there
[17:56] <stein> he banned my ip
[17:56] <stein> i got dynamic ip, so
[17:57] <stein> ban-evading is easy
[17:57] <Corey> stein: That's ill advised.
[17:57] <IdleOne> thanks
[17:57] <stein> but can you tell k1l top stop banning.
[17:57] <k1l> and yet you ban evaid again
[17:57] <stein> k1l banned me, corey.
[17:57] <stein> k1l banned me again, omg.
[17:57] <stein> corey, how can i solve this?
[17:57] <IdleOne> first, stop evading bans
[17:58] <k1l> stein: what about you stick to the rules first?
[17:58] <k1l> stein: ban evading will not make us remove a ban
[17:58] <k1l> !guidelines | stein
[17:58] <stein> i'll ban-evade anyway
[17:58] <stein> with some other name
[17:58] <stein> and other proxy
[17:58] <stein> your ban are useless
[17:58] <stein> lol
[17:58] <IdleOne> nice of you for telling us and staff
[17:59] <k1l> m(
[18:00] <k1l> stein: it could be so easy for all of us, if you were not playing the little haxx0r kiddie
[18:00] <stein> I am not pretending to be a little haxx0r skiddie, you lil fuckfaggot.
[18:00] <stein> learn to speak english.
[18:00] <stein> I can easily evade your silly bans.
[18:00] <stein> I can change my alias
[18:00] <stein> and I got thousands & thousands of
[18:00] <stein> proxies, ssh-tunnelling servers
[18:00] <k1l> but as long as you show that behaviour and will not stick to the guidelines i see no point in letting you back into the channel
[18:01] <stein> k1l, who cares about the fucking guidelines
[18:01] <stein> i can evade
[18:01] <stein> easily
[18:01] <stein> you'll never know who I am
[18:01] <stein> lol
[18:01] <stein> why isn't swearing allowed?
[18:01] <Corey> Then I'm afraid the ban won't be lifted any time soon.
[18:01] <stein> how old are you, guys. exactly? 12?
[18:02] <stein> corey, I can lift the fucking bans myself
[18:02] <k1l> stein: that behaviour you just showed is not welcome in the channel. so please stay out. if you want to discuss your ban you are free to join here
[18:02] <stein> your bans suck
[18:02] <stein> k1l, how about you suck my cock
[18:02] <stein> i can evade the ban
[18:02] <stein> 1. ill change my alias
[18:02] <stein> 2. ill get a proxy
[18:08] <Corey> So unconstructive.
[18:08]  * Corey pokes at xnox 
[19:57] <k1l> who is your daddy? :)
[20:00] <Pici> and what does he do
[20:00] <IdleOne> You know who he is. He gave you goats.
[20:05] <guntbert> sorry that edit request was completely bogus
[21:41] <k1l> ah, that mighty "i dont have a ubuntu but it works now" effect
[22:51] <xnox> Corey: hi
[22:54] <ikonia> xnox: can anyone else help you ?
[22:54] <Corey> Hi.
[22:54] <ikonia> ahh Corey is here
[22:54] <Corey> Usually. :-)
[22:54] <Corey> xnox: Just wondering why you're idling here. :-)
[22:55] <xnox> Corey: i idle on all channels I join, that's a default for my irc proxy =)
[22:55] <ikonia> I think the question is why have you joined #ubuntu-ops
[22:55] <Corey> xnox: Ah. See /topic :-)
[22:55]  * xnox is ubuntu-core-dev and ubuntu-developer and thus i have a long list of #ubuntu-* channels i idle on.
[22:55] <ikonia> yes, but why #ubuntu-ops
[22:56] <xnox> ikonia: something like 3 weeks ago there was a spammer i requested to be looked at.... but yeah. no active reason to be here.
[22:56] <ikonia> ahhh
[22:56] <ikonia> you joined to report a problem and it's auto-rejoined
[22:57] <xnox> ikonia: why is the policy to remove idlers from here?
[22:57] <xnox> the channel is logged anyway....?!
[22:57] <LjL> well that's mostly why the channel is logged, so people who ask "why can't i look at what you do" can be pointed at the logs :P
[22:58] <IdleOne> xnox: trolls travel in packs.
[22:58] <xnox> =))) and people with duplicate nicks here are clearly on active duty =)))
[22:59]  * xnox was quietly minding my own business until Corey poked me =)
[23:00] <IdleOne> those people are meant to be here. it isn't a question of how many clients you have. I am fine with you idling here but the policy is that only people who need to be here are in here