[00:00] Whose Line Is It Anyway is starting up on The CW with Aisha Tyler hosting... [00:16] Yay for being dumb- Deb channels were OFTC- yay people in channel :D [00:40] Sorry, you didn't know Debian was an OFTC kid? [00:42] 19:39 * MarkDude is saving a shirt we make for Paul, Im sure he will wear it. [00:42] MarkDude: I would wear it :D [00:52] * MarkDude did know this but apprently forgot [00:53] The channel being invite only thru me off. [00:54] Then again, Im already on Mozilla, Freenode, and Undernet- its been a while since I have done oftc- I added one more network. Next I redo this all with ZNC server [00:56] Do what I do, have several Irssi running on different servers. :P [00:57] I have Coldfront and Freenode networks in this one, OFTC and conformal in another, Freenode and Mozilla in another. :P [00:58] irssi can connect to a few networks [00:58] mine does :> [00:59] Yes I have been meaning to set up irssi for 2+ years [00:59] Mine does too, I just like to spread them out. :D [00:59] I have half of ZNC set up already [01:00] !channelnames [01:00] :D [02:24] srandby: Hello! [02:24] Unit193: Hello. [02:24] I plan to be at the meeting on Thursday. [02:25] Great! Going to OLF? [02:25] Yes. [02:27] How does one enter this room from a non-browser client? [02:28] What client? Just open it up, connect to Freenode, and /join #ubuntu-us-oh [02:28] Every time I try, I get that the room is by invitation only. Using Pidgin. [02:29] #ubuntu-us-oh, or #ubuntu-us-ohio? [02:29] I'll check. [02:30] There isn't anything that'd block it from joining here, but -ohio isn't used. [02:31] I had #ubuntu-us-ohio for some unknown reason. [02:32] I'm going to leave the room, change my Pidgin settings, and reconnect. [02:32] OK. [02:34] Hello again. [02:35] Howdy, you made it! [02:35] Hello Scott Randby [02:35] skellat: Hello [02:37] I looked at the agenda for Thursday. What UbuCon is the agenda referring to? OLF? [02:37] srandby: Yep [02:37] We have space [02:37] Cool [02:37] I wrangled a commitment out of Moose [02:37] I need to get commitments from presenters [02:38] Or at least leads for presenters [02:38] What sort of presentations? [02:38] That's pretty open [02:38] And discussed at the last meeting [02:38] Lemme dig that up [02:39] Crap [02:39] Not in the last meeting notes [02:40] I looked at those awhile ago but didn't see it mentioned. However, I'm willing to submit an idea or two on Thursday. [02:40] Ah, the list of initial ideas is here: http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/node/155 [02:40] [ Burning Circle Episode 121 | Ubuntu Ohio ] - https://j.mp/15EqB6P [02:40] There's a transcript to that where I have a bulleted list [02:41] GamingServer usage -- Flavor Highlights -- Highlights about finishing up Saucy Salamander for release -- Thoughts looking forward to the next Long Term Support release -- Reflections on the changes wrought by the virtual Ubuntu Developer Summit paradigm -- Ways we need to work within the cultures found in Ohio to expand Ubuntu deployment [02:42] srandby: You use Mainbuntu, right? [02:42] Unit193: I use Xubuntu. [02:42] \o/ [02:42] \o/ [02:43] Okay, I'm pretty new to IRC. What does \o/ mean? [02:43] My hands are raised and if this were in person I'd be jumping up and down cheering [02:44] \ is an arm, o is the head, and / is another arm, so it's a happy person. [02:44] Okay. I've been using Xubuntu for 2 or 3 years. [02:45] Unity drove me crazy. [02:46] I lack hardware that Unity supports [02:46] LOL [02:46] That, and I never really used it, I was never a fan of Gnome. [02:47] (I did have 6.10 or .04 installed, but that was the last one.) [02:47] The only thing that took me awhile to get used to was the lack of tabs in Xfce. [02:48] Tabs in Xfce? [02:48] Thunar? It has it now, and I use thunar and pcmanfm. [02:48] Sorry, Thunar. [02:49] thunar & pcmanfm have both grown quite a bit over the past few releases [02:49] I'm still using Xubuntu 12.04. [02:50] I haven't had time to update. [02:50] I need full disk encryption. [02:50] Nothing wrong with that. There is a documentation backport project underway to get some great offline documentation into 12.04. [02:50] Ah, I stick to current, while it may not be a good idea with my hardware, I can't stand stale applications. [02:51] I don't get into dealing with the sharp, pointy end of the development spearhead until we get closer to testing time [02:52] * skellat is using Xubuntu 13.04 at the moment [02:54] I'd like to update to 13.04. [02:55] You'd have to go with 12.10, then 13.04. [02:55] Yeah [02:55] The Kubuntu folks talk about a single dist-upgrade jump method but Xubuntu doesn't support that [02:56] (Officially) [02:56] My system isn't really on the "supported" side of things anymore. [02:56] I'd rather do a fresh install. [02:57] Ah, cool. Makes sense, depending on the person. [02:57] But I have to study how full disk encryption works now. [02:57] Unit193: Old hardware isn't supported? [02:58] There was a colloquy about that in #xubuntu-devel earlier today [02:58] srandby: Heh, sure as heck doesn't seem like it, but I'm talking about held packages from precise/quantal, kernel from a non-Ubuntu source, and extra repos (own and all.) [02:59] That is, own repos and a couple others. (PPA and real repo.) [03:00] I'm not sure I understand, but I'm not a programmer or system admin. I'm just a user. [03:02] Hrm, I'm sometimes not good at being clear too. [03:02] skellat: Colloquy about full disk encryption? [03:02] Nope. Old hardware. [03:02] It seems like Mir/XMir is a push by Mainbuntu to make a lot of things obsolete. [03:03] (Really shouldn't get into a Mir argument here, though. :P ) [03:03] It all has to fit on a smartphone. [03:04] Yep [03:04] Pretty sure wayland does, or is intended on doing that. [03:04] And no Emacs (or vi) [03:04] But in many cases hardware is being made obsolete. I just had to move my BeagleBoard-xM to upstream Debian since desktop armhf support is being spun down. [03:06] This makes me wonder about the fate of Xubuntu. [03:06] Xubuntu is strong [03:06] Well, Xubuntu isn't geared towards "old" hardware, but Xfce isn't planning on Mir right now, no. [03:07] Good. It is hard for semi-technical people like me to change. [03:07] Same here. [03:08] My backup plan involves Debian, though. [03:08] I've thought about Debian too. [03:08] (Not sure pure Debian, or a handy setup like Siduction.) [03:10] You could see if XMir works on your system, of if it falls back to Xorg right now too if you'd like. :P [03:11] I have a Lenovo ThinkPad X230. What do you think? [03:12] Just added Siduction to my distro list. [03:12] Generally speaking, if it's intel graphics it has a shot in the dark. [03:12] AntiX is a nice lightweight one too. [03:13] If you have a spare USB key, Unit193 has an ISO you can write to it to take a shot with [03:13] skellat: Or, if you know how to install software, you can use grml-rescueboot. [03:14] I don't have time to experiment right now. [03:14] It's okay [03:15] Oh, sure. [04:55] ARGH: http://starbeacon.com/local/x316296897/Motorized-wheelchairs-on-streets-draw-council-s-eye [04:55] [ Motorized wheelchairs on streets draw council’s eye » Local News » The Star Beacon; Ashtabula, Ohio ] - https://j.mp/15kHRy5 [11:30] Good morning. [14:43] Morning [16:41] thafreak: not any more, but I acknowledge and appreciate the sentiment