[00:03] <f00bar80> that's how i created it ln -s  gcc-linaro-4.7-2013.07/INSTALL/index.html /var/www/linaro/index.html , and ls -la shows index.html -> gcc-linaro-4.7-2013.07/INSTALL/index.html , any idea what's wrong ?
[00:03] <SudoAptitude> Hi everybody. Is it possible to limit the RAM-Usage of an application, forcing it to use the SWAP-space for exceeding memory needs?
[00:03] <SudoAptitude> It is a Java-application
[00:03] <holstein> !swapiness
[00:04] <mnemon> f00bar80: what webserver?
[00:05] <holstein> !swap | SudoAptitude
[00:06] <SudoAptitude> It looks like swappiness is determined for the whole system. Can I change it for a specific (Java) application?
[00:06] <SudoAptitude> swappiness on my system is set to 60
[00:06] <holstein> SudoAptitude: i did that a long time ago for something audio related, and i cant find that now
[00:06] <holstein> SudoAptitude: AFAIK, you can, but im not sure
[00:07] <SudoAptitude> Thanks :) Now I know there is a solution and I am sure someone posted it on the interwebs somewhere *searching*
[00:10] <f00bar80> mnemon, apache2
[00:10] <blackshirt> how i can place newline for output in init script, log_daemon_msg "Starting the process" "$NAME"
[00:10] <blackshirt>   iptables_classiffy()
[00:11] <blackshirt> between log_daemon_msg printing and some function there aren't newline break
[00:11] <mnemon> f00bar80: you need to have the follow symlinks enabled and a directory directive for the actual directory
[00:11] <f00bar80> mnemon, how to do so, any guide?
[00:12] <blackshirt> hello, someone help
[00:13] <mnemon> f00bar80: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/core.html#directory and http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/core.html#options ... don't know any tutorials off the top of my head
[00:14] <mnemon> blackshirt: \n is newline
[00:14] <elisa87> hey do you know why -fopenmp is recognized in .c programs but not in .cpp programs when I use it before -o in my Makefile?cc1plus: error: unrecognized command line option "-fopenmp"
[00:16] <mnemon> blackshirt: example: echo -e "\n" (-e needed because otherwise it will disable the \ escaped special characters)
[00:23] <danes> hello, I need help. I cannot mount a harddrive. I get this error: http://pastie.org/8147351
[00:24] <mnemon> elisa87: tried explicitly installing g++ etc.?
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> danes, When was the last time you ran a chkdsk on that partition?
[00:24] <danes> wilee-nilee: I have no idea...
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> danes, If it is not mountable that would be my first thought.
[00:25] <danes> wilee-nilee: can I do anything from linux?
[00:26] <mnemon> danes is it a normal ntfs partition?
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> danes, Not a chkdsk, and fdsk is not advised in general. This is my approach though, there may be others, I have W8 so can run tests in windows if needed.
[00:27] <adamk> danes: There is an ntfsfix program, but personally I'd scan it in Windows
[00:33] <superman_> what is Whoopsie and it is necessary?
[00:34] <mnemon> superman_: it's error reporting daemon, afaik not necessary unless you want to report the errors.
[00:34] <Maple__> Hai there - I forgot to install updates before upgrading; will this have any consequences?
[00:34] <Maple__> it's currently in the middle of it
[00:34] <Maple__> :p
[00:34] <superman_> Maple__, it will probably be fine
[00:35] <Maple__> 'kay, thanks. Just checking. :P
[00:35] <superman_> just update after you upgrade :)
[00:35] <Maple__> Also, second question.
[00:35] <mnemon> Maple__: do you mean apt-get update & upgrade?
[00:44] <user211> hey
[00:45] <penos> herro
[00:46] <Buxi> hey salut
[00:47] <mnemon> hello
[00:47] <user211> :)
[00:47] <user211> i need some mailserver that can encrypt mail locally
[00:48] <user211> was thinking about getting a very cheap vps running linux for just that
[00:49] <user211> but whats important is that mail is encrypted locally
[00:49] <user211> suggestions?
[00:50] <prgCoder> hi guys - I have just set up a test server running ubuntu server 13, but can not run the gui, any ideas?
[00:51] <mnemon> prgCoder: what is the problem with the gui?
[00:51] <mnemon> (error messages etc.)
[00:51] <prgCoder> gui - Graphical User Interface
[00:51] <mnemon> yes ...
[00:51] <prgCoder> I tried to start it with "startx
[00:52] <mnemon> did you install it first?
[00:52] <prgCoder> yep
[00:52] <mnemon> ubuntu-desktop?
[00:52] <prgCoder> server
[00:52] <prgCoder> yes I want the desktop
[00:52] <nevyn> prgCoder: the package ubuntu-desktop
[00:52] <nevyn> not the distribution
[00:53] <mnemon> ^
[00:53] <nevyn> that said.. if you want a gui why did you not just install normal ubuntu
[00:53] <nevyn> the only difference for server really is that it doesn't install the gui
[00:53] <prgCoder> sorry - I want the server version - I want to set up a web server
[00:54] <nevyn> you just said you want a gui
[00:54] <mnemon> nevyn: i think it installs quite a few additional packages too? ... haven't tried installing ubuntu-desktop on server lately though
[00:54] <prgCoder> but I want to configure the settings thru the gui
[00:54] <nevyn> mnemon: it installs many many packages.
[00:54] <nevyn> prgCoder: what software do you imagine configuring in a gui?
[00:54] <nevyn> related to the task of a web server?
[00:55] <mnemon> yeah ... but there used to be a difference between normal installation and just installing ubuntu-desktop on top of server installation.
[00:56] <mnemon> prgCoder: the only configuring you'll be doing in gui for the webserver is graphical text-editor unless you install some panel software
[00:56] <mnemon> so you could just use one locally and the upload the config files to the server
[00:56] <nevyn> and even panel software is mostly web based.
[00:56] <nevyn> isn't it?
[00:56] <mnemon> yeah
[00:56] <mnemon> (the "GUI" would be web interface)
[00:56] <Axelay> Hey
[00:57] <mnemon> hello
[00:57] <Axelay> How are you? :)
[00:57] <nevyn> !hi
[00:57] <mnemon> slightly drunk, and good :>
[00:57] <prgCoder> lol
[00:57] <Axelay> Could I ask some opinions? :D
[00:58] <prgCoder> hey thanks guys
[00:58] <holstein> Axelay: i would use the offtopic channel and go for it
[00:58] <mnemon> 1st rule of irc, don't ask to ask.
[00:58] <prgCoder> nevyn: thanks
[00:58] <mnemon> just ask.
[00:58] <prgCoder> mnemon: thanks
[00:58] <Axelay> Ok, Ubuntu doesnt seem to recognise my webcam
[00:58] <mnemon> prgCoder: np
[00:58] <Axelay> And I need it to work for my program
[00:59] <Axelay> The question is rather ubuntu based, hence why I came here :)
[00:59] <holstein> Axelay: opinions are not, which is why i suggested OT.. if its relevant, go for it
[00:59] <holstein> Axelay: i think the overall consensus is.. ask if you are going to
[01:00] <Axelay> What I'm trying to get to work is a V4l2 camera, My program uses my webcam and takes images from it
[01:00] <prgCoder> my problem was that I am use to another distro providing a desktop interface even though the server version was installed
[01:00] <Axelay> This worked with the LTS ubuntu
[01:00] <Axelay> I upgraded twice to the newest ubuntu
[01:00] <holstein> Axelay: the LTS is still supported
[01:01] <Axelay> And now it doesnt regognize the webcam at all
[01:01] <mnemon> prgCoder: if you want a GUI on the server you could just install ubuntu-desktop or one of the variants(xubuntu, kubuntu etc.)
[01:01] <mnemon> then some remote access program(or use X remoting if in lan ...)
[01:02] <Axelay> What I don't understand is do I have to manually install V4l2 drivers?
[01:02] <Axelay> I can get cheese to recognize the webcam, but the software doesnt, yet it did on the latest :TS
[01:02] <Axelay> on the latest LTS*
[01:03] <prgCoder> mnemon: thanks again - I will iinvestigate
[01:03] <holstein> Axelay: so the system is seeing it then. what application is not? vlc?
[01:03] <Axelay> Its a dissertation project
[01:04] <mnemon> prgCoder: np
[01:04] <Axelay> I'm using a 3rd party software package called imalib which handles the webcam software, and stuff
[01:04] <Axelay> And when I ran it on the LTS it recognised my webcam fine
[01:04] <holstein> Axelay: if i works with applications in ubuntu, then the issue is potentially with the other 'stuff"
[01:04] <holstein> Axelay: the LTS is still supported
[01:05] <Axelay> Recently I've updated ubuntu to the latest and it cannot detect the webcam
[01:05] <Axelay> Oh
[01:05] <Axelay> :\
[01:05] <Axelay> Bugger.
[01:05] <holstein> Axelay: could be the "stuff" you are using supports the LTS, and not 13.04
[01:05] <Axelay> The software i'm using uses the V4l2 interface.
[01:05] <holstein> Axelay: i literally have no idea.. but if you are seeing the cam in cheese, ubuntu is working
[01:05] <mnemon> Axelay: i'd look at the paragraph 3.1 & 3.2 in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[01:05] <holstein> Axelay: you should ask the maintainers of whatever software you are using
[01:06] <Axelay> I supposed that, but I didnt want to annoy him :P
[01:06] <prgCoder> lol
[01:06] <Axelay> And Wanted to ask if it was my stupidity with ubuntu
[01:07] <Axelay> If its because I need LTS, how hard will it be to downgrade?
[01:07] <mnemon> Axelay: you might need to specify which device to use in the software ... somewhat common issue with some hardware + linux.
[01:07] <Axelay> The software uses a config file
[01:07] <Axelay> Which is made during installation
[01:07] <mnemon> Axelay: does the config file specify which device is your webcam?
[01:08] <holstein> Axelay: you dont downgrade.. you fresh install.. its quite easy
[01:08] <mnemon> (/dev/videoX)?
[01:08] <Axelay> Nope, it just specificies picasso, v4l2 etc
[01:08] <histo> !downgrade | Axelay
[01:08] <mnemon> Axelay: which software?
[01:09] <Axelay> It's called imalib. It manipulates images and calculates the euclidean distance and stuff
[01:09] <mnemon> also, do you have /dev/video devices?
[01:09] <Axelay> Yes
[01:10] <histo> Axelay: perhaps the software is addressing the camera by a location that is no longer present in a newer version. A symlink would be able to resolve this if you knew what it was looking for.
[01:10] <Axelay> I don't know what a symlink is lol
[01:10] <Axelay> What is odd that it worked fine in the latest LTS
[01:10] <Strywgr> howto install tdom?
[01:10] <Strywgr> apt-get install tdom?
[01:10] <histo> !info tdom
[01:11] <histo> Strywgr: enable the universe repo and install it using the software center or sudo apt-get install tdom
[01:11] <mnemon> Axelay: do you have a link to the softwares website or something?
[01:11] <Axelay> But I imagine that I may need to reinstall the latest LTS
[01:12] <Axelay> I do, but its private
[01:12] <Axelay> Its a university SVN
[01:12] <mnemon> ah, so it's not a public software?
[01:12] <Axelay> Nope lol
[01:12] <mnemon> kk :)
[01:12] <histo> Axelay: File a bug with the author
[01:12] <prgCoder> can you ask the developer for help?
[01:13] <Axelay> I'm doing that tomorrow lol
[01:13] <mnemon> i'd also check the config file for any references to the device
[01:13] <mnemon> + any additional documentation
[01:13] <Axelay> But I thought I'd ask if it was something easy I could do
[01:13] <Axelay> Done that mnemon
[01:13] <mnemon> kk
[01:14] <Axelay> Is there any V4l2 drivers available that are not delivered with the new ubuntu versions?
[01:20] <tyler> My webcam in my Dell Inspiron n5010 is not working. Any tips?
[01:20] <Guest91820> Doesn't seem to be recognized.
[01:20] <histo> !webcam | tyteen4a03
[01:20] <histo> Guest91820: ^^^^^^
[01:21] <Guest91820> I have already looked at that.
[01:22] <Guest91820> It is not recognized is lscpi or lsusb
[01:22] <anuvrat> hi ...
[01:23] <holstein> Guest91820: are you sure its enabled in the bios?
[01:23] <histo> Guest91820: what kind of camera is it?
[01:23] <histo> anuvrat: hola
[01:23] <anuvrat> I need some help connecting my usb data card, Tata Photon +. lsusb shows, but network manager isn't able to.
[01:23] <Guest91820> holstein: Let me check that.
[01:26] <arowana> Hi All
[01:26] <anuvrat> histo, https://dpaste.de/m9nuP/ shows huawei card ... neither wvdial nor network manager are able to detect it.
[01:26] <anuvrat> detect it as a modem*
[01:28] <arowana> any experience in formatting iPod in Linux?
[01:28] <histo> anuvrat: isn't that a cell modem?
[01:28] <james-ubc> http://i.imgur.com/obAG1uN.png is that normal? my HDD is only 25 GB...
[01:28] <james-ubc> lol
[01:28] <SonikkuAmerica> !info gtkpod | arowana
[01:28] <histo> arowana: You format ipods using the ios software right on the device
[01:29] <arowana> thanks...
[01:29] <arowana> but the prblm is, iPod is showing BIG RED CROSS
[01:29] <arowana> and not able to mount it..
[01:29] <anuvrat> histo, look at huawei, its a data card.
[01:29] <histo> anuvrat: I don't have the card infront of me to look at it
[01:29] <anuvrat> histo, HTC is my phone ... I am charging it via usb
[01:30] <anuvrat> histo, I meant look at the line saying huawei ... thats the data card.
[01:30] <anuvrat> histo, in this file https://dpaste.de/m9nuP/
[01:30] <anuvrat> file* url
[01:31] <histo> anuvrat: yes it's a cell modem
[01:31] <anuvrat> histo, if you say so
[01:31] <tyler_> webcam still not working on dell inspiron n5010. No settings in bios for it.
[01:31] <histo> anuvrat: What are you trying to do exactly? use the internet from your cellular phone?
[01:32] <histo> anuvrat: people on askubuntu suggest that if you can't see it in network manager to configure the connection install modemmanager
[01:33] <histo> tyler_: does it show up in lsusb or lspci??? also does cheese show any output?
[01:33] <anuvrat> histo, modemmanager is already the newest version
[01:33] <tyler_> hitsto: cheese shows nothing, nothing in lsusb or lspci
[01:33] <client> Hello
[01:34] <client> Will the "iconify" tool from Linux Mint work on Xubuntu?
[01:35] <anuvrat> histo, does this mean that I can't use my data card? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/modemmanager/+bug/1167994
[01:36] <petey> can anyone help me with some problems im having resetting mysql password?
[01:36] <anuvrat> histo, but I am using it on another system running fedora 16 ...
[01:36] <petey> no matter what i do, i cant get mysqld to start
[01:36] <petey> it says process is already running
[01:36] <client> petey is this on ubuntu or on a server install?
[01:37] <petey> server install
[01:37] <client> By server, I mean something like LAMP
[01:37] <client> Is it LAMP?
[01:37] <petey> yes
[01:37] <client> or Xampp for Linux?
[01:37] <client> *Note: the 2 are different.
[01:37] <petey> its lamp
[01:38] <petey> trying "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop" says "https://gist.github.com/anonymous/878630fb1b54b575844d"
[01:39] <petey> running "sudo service mysql stop" and trying mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables says "mysqld already running"
[01:39] <petey> sudo service mysql stop actually says unknown service
[01:39] <client> Try: sudo service mysql stop
[01:39] <petey> it says "stop: unknown instance: "
[01:39] <client> oh damn you already tried that
[01:40] <petey> why wont this stupid thing stop
[01:40] <petey> lol, i have never had so much trouble trying to reset a mysql password!
[01:40] <client> You should reset the password in PhpMyAdmin
[01:40] <petey> i dont have phpmyadmin
[01:41] <client> aah damn. I was looking at that as your next solution
[01:41] <client> Petey, your next best bet would be to restart your PC
[01:41] <petey> is there anyway to stop mysqld_safe
[01:41] <client> Don't use LAMP, use Xampp for Linux instead. it's easier to use. Or better yet, do all your dev work in a VM or a dev machine.
[01:42] <client> brb
[01:44] <Rawa> hello :)
[01:52] <naryfa> Hello. Can anyone help me? I've got NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT, and the dash slows down in responsiveness each time I invoke it. The first time it takes about a second to popup, the second time two seconds, then next a few seconds more, after about ten times it takes forever to show up. Anyone knows where to dig?
[01:56] <Rallias> Is there any way to make virt-manager faster?
[01:57] <fishcooker> hello there .. is android apps would be compatible to the ubuntu phone
[01:58] <tgm4883> Rallias, faster?
[01:58] <Rallias> tgm4883, It takes like 5 minnutes between "create" and "customize your vm"
[01:58] <client> possibly fishcooker.
[02:00] <tgm4883> Rallias, I don't recall it taking that long when I use it at work
[02:01] <Rallias> tgm4883, Everything but the VNC console is slow for me.
[02:01] <tgm4883> Rallias, odd. 13.04? System specs?
[02:01] <Rallias> 13.04 on the machine I'm on.
[02:01] <Rallias> Centos 6 on the target machine.
[02:02] <Rallias> I'm running an i3 with 6gb ram, target machine is dual-l5420 w/8g ram
[02:02] <petey> so i ran "mysql -u debian-sys-maint -p"
[02:02] <tgm4883> Rallias, Is it slow even if you create a machine locally?
[02:02] <petey> and got hte server started
[02:02] <petey> now how do i stop it
[02:02] <petey> lol
[02:02] <FloodBot1> petey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:03] <Rallias> tgm4883, I don't have a local vm host.
[02:03] <tgm4883> Rallias, Sorry, I don't recall having any issues with it, even when I used remote hosts
[02:04] <Rallias> I mean, I've had problems with my german server in the past, but I assumed that was because of 100ms ping. Right now I'm on a kansas server with about 20ms ping..
[02:10] <Sakuya> cipherboy: you there?
[02:19] <cipherboy> Sakuya, back
[02:20] <cipherboy> but I will disappear again in 5.
[02:20] <Sakuya> cipherboy: did you find that information on secure boot?
[02:20] <cipherboy> Yep, sorry, thought I got that to you: http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/secureboot.html
[02:21] <cipherboy> It goes through a few possible methods, up to you to choose whichever tickles your fancy. I do not have new enough hardware by a long shot to be able to verify any of the information by doing it myself (luckily), but it was linked to in a few places.
[02:21] <Sakuya> do you know why the ubuntu boot disk seems to have secure boot working though, but not after install, and what Mint does differently?
[02:22] <noidea> Hey, I just moved from ubuntu 10.04 lts to 12.04 lts because I managed to screw it up pretty badly. Is it possible to get the upper unity panel to show the active window's menu at all times without having to move your mouse towards the upper panel?
[02:23] <cipherboy> Sakuya, Sadly, not familiar with mint. Likewise, haven't played around installing Ubuntu for a while...been running stable for a while, and even pushing it hasn't required me to reinstall...
[02:23] <cipherboy> Mint might follow Fedora's path though, not sure.
[02:24] <kelly> hi guys , how can i enable usb in virtualbox ?
[02:24] <Sakuya> Mint is more a customized version of Ubuntu, distro compatible
[02:24] <cipherboy> Sakuya, as I said earlier, I apologize for not having newer hardware... considering some people's horror stories, not sure I want it.
[02:24] <Sakuya> err, apt sources compatible
[02:24] <cipherboy> kelly, you tried vbox addons?
[02:25] <kelly> yup i tried it but it does not work ? cipherboy
[02:25] <cipherboy> Sakuya, ah, I knew it derived, thanks. Might take a wander through google... hitting a few links.
[02:26] <cipherboy> kelly, Hm... getting any errors, or what is the problem there? Gimme a sec to get vbox up.
[02:27] <cipherboy> kelly, what guest os?
[02:27] <kelly> i just installed vbox addons then i pluged the externel usb hard disk
[02:27] <kelly> elementary os
[02:28] <cipherboy> kelly, Hmm. whats under usb in the os config?
[02:28] <kelly> nothing
[02:28] <kelly> it does not show me anything
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> kelly, You add the usb in the virtualbox settings?
[02:29] <kelly> wilee-nilee, : how can i add it ? i just add user to vboxgroup
[02:30] <WACOMalt> Hey folks. I am about to install a windows VM on my server for a few select things. however the server is headless and I need to download the ISO. I am wondering the easiest way to get a graphical web browser running over VNC, without having to install a full desktop UI
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> kelly, open the virtualbox setting it says usb
[02:31] <Mark______> How can I make apache start on bot (Ubuntu 10.04).  It used to work, but we just installed a bunch of patches, and now we have to start Apache manually.
[02:31] <arowana> Hi All
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> kelly, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/31726/mount-usb-devices-in-virtualbox-with-ubuntu/
[02:31] <kelly> wilee-nilee, yes i add it now
[02:32] <kelly> ok ill try it
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> kelly, The link is a bit old but the usb stuff I think is correct.
[02:34] <kelly> yes it works thanx wilee-nilee
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> kelly, Cool, enjoy.
[02:36] <cipherboy> Sakuya, thoughts on the article coming from a UEFI perspective? I mean, more or less boils down to whether the manufacturer actually followed specification.
[02:41] <noidea> Hey, I just moved from ubuntu 10.04 lts to 12.04 lts because I managed to screw it up pretty badly. Is it possible to get the upper unity panel to show the active window's menu at all times without having to move your mouse towards the upper panel?
[02:42] <LucidDreamZzZ> hi installing ubuntu
[02:43] <LucidDreamZzZ> woudl some one be so kind to link insr=tructions for pxe setup
[02:44] <LucidDreamZzZ> it is working but keeps oing to net to fetch packages if i could just fix taht
[02:44] <djapo> flash player works with youtube but for websites that use it interactivly like for example online test the colors and shapes are not drawn well and it looks phased
[02:44] <usr13> LucidDreamZzZ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[02:44] <Ph0bus> riaa hates ubuntu
[02:45] <LucidDreamZzZ> alright thank you usr13
[02:45] <Sakuya> bah
[02:46] <Sakuya> poking around about the secure boot, I did an update in ubuntu.  First I get the failback X error, and weird nouveau errors, so I install nvidia drivers instead since I was going to anyway, now I just get a blank desktop with wallpaper on sign in
[02:48] <Sakuya> cool, nuking the config files worked on that one
[02:50] <zero_coder> hey
[02:51] <zero_coder> usb-imagewriter can't be found in my software repo ubuntu
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> zero_coder, https://launchpad.net/usb-imagewriter  What are you to use it for?
[02:53] <tich_> Hey. I have been working on an essay and just noticed that my spell check isn't activated in libreoffice but it appears from the settings that it should be. any suggestions to get it working?
[02:54] <zero_coder> wilee-nilee, to write raspbian to sd card
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> tich_, which release?
[02:54] <tich_> wilee-nilee, 13.04
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> tich_, libreoffice
[02:55] <tich_> oh. whichever it came with, let me double check
[02:55] <tich_> wilee-nilee, Version 4.0.2.2
[02:56] <kelly> guys how can i set a password for folder sharing on the network from ubuntu to windows 7 , or in another word i need the windows guy access to folder and see it but cant move or copy the files ? how can i do it
[02:57] <wilee-nilee> tich_, should be an answer somewhere here. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=libreoffice+spell+check
[02:57] <zero_coder> wilee-nilee : i installed it
[02:58] <zero_coder> i just have to run the install.sh file , right?
[02:58] <maslen> kelly: Samba
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> zero_coder, No idea never used it.
[02:58] <tich_> wilee-nilee, thanks i will check that out.
[02:58] <maslen> kelly: There are GUI's available as well. You might need to set up the windows machine for it to be compatible
[02:59] <fishcooker> is there any channel for ubuntu phone user?
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> fishcooker, #ubuntu-touch
[03:00] <matheus> hi, I want to buy a cubieboard to run ubuntu 12.04 server, someone can say thats possible?
[03:01] <saiarcot895> tich_: did you install the hunspell dictionaries?
[03:01] <saiarcot895> tich_: at least hunspell-en-us?
[03:01] <tich_> wilee-nilee, thanks. totally solved. it was so easy but it would have taken forever for me to find the problem
[03:02] <tich_> saiarcot895, i found the problem. i don't have the canadian dictionary installed even though it is my default language. i just switched to uk english
[03:08] <Hexagonite> How do you write a bootable .BIN file to a USB?
[03:08] <miandonmenmian> does anyone know how can i change the resolution of the TTY?
[03:08] <holstein> Hexagonite: is that some kind of windows firmware flasher?
[03:08] <holstein> !tty | miandonmenmian
[03:08] <miandonmenmian> it is not supported by my monitor, and it enters saveing power mode
[03:09] <Hexagonite> holstein: It's the Chromium OS .BIN
[03:10] <holstein> Hexagonite: will unetbootin do it?
[03:10] <Hexagonite> holstein: does it write .BIN files though?
[03:10] <miandonmenmian> thanks holstein
[03:10] <holstein> Hexagonite: i would just fire it up and seee
[03:13] <Hexagonite> holstein: does 'dd' work?
[03:14] <WACOMalt> Anyone in here familliar with qemu? I am trying to run a win7 install disk but am getting an error saying my CPU doesnt support x64
[03:14] <holstein> Hexagonite: i mean, dd with dd copy it.. is the image able to be dd copied and boot.. thats the question.. and only the creator could say
[03:14] <WACOMalt> but it does, is there something I need to set manually to enable 64 bit guests in qemu?
[03:14] <holstein> Hexagonite: i would just fire up unetbootin and try it.. shouldnt take a few minutes
[03:15] <Hexagonite> holstein: thanks, I'll try that
[03:18] <WACOMalt> when I run qemu -cpu ? it is not listing any x64 architectures to use
[03:19] <cipherboy> Question. When gParted modifies ntfs partition (resize), will it set it to chkdsk on next boot with Windows?  If not, should I be worried if windows (7) wants to check the disk/
[03:19] <cipherboy> ?
[03:21] <zero_coder> hey
[03:22] <zero_coder> i want to write raspbian image file to an sd card
[03:22] <Jagst3r15> I have a seriours problem
[03:22] <Jagst3r15> global menus not working in ANY program
[03:22] <Jagst3r15> and im on a nearly fresh install of 12.04
[03:22] <LucidDreamZzZ> may i just install my steam?
[03:23] <LucidDreamZzZ> i dont want to sign up right now ubuntu 1 account
[03:24] <LucidDreamZzZ> sorry
[03:24] <LucidDreamZzZ> i already own all linux games i think
[03:24] <LucidDreamZzZ> how may install steam without 'ubuntu 1?'??
[03:24] <Jagst3r15> please anyone
[03:24] <LucidDreamZzZ> whatever it is/called
[03:25] <cipherboy> LucidDreamZzZ, shouldn't you be able to?
[03:25] <somsip> zero_coder: Try this: http://is.gd/GKZ9xI
[03:25] <cipherboy> Jagst3r15, give me like 15 minutes and I will attempt to help you.
[03:25] <Jagst3r15> k
[03:26] <LucidDreamZzZ> there is only 'buy' button i zallready own a unch of games
[03:26] <LucidDreamZzZ> sorry annoying
[03:28] <cipherboy> LucidDreamZzZ, how did you install steam?
[03:29] <LucidDreamZzZ> nevermind i fixed thx
[03:29] <cipherboy> Jagst3r15, Okay, first things first. Did this happen after a update? Did it work in live cd? any graphics drivers?
[03:29] <Jagst3r15> nothing
[03:29] <Jagst3r15> I have installed a few ppas
[03:29] <Jagst3r15> maybe that has messed it up
[03:30] <cipherboy> Jagst3r15, Any packages which might play around with that stuff? Say, theminng or the like?
[03:30] <Jagst3r15> no :(
[03:30] <cipherboy> Hm, it worked on livecd?
[03:30] <Jagst3r15> yes
[03:30] <cipherboy> Are you using "Ubuntu" desktop or "Ubuntu-2d"?
[03:30] <Jagst3r15> regular
[03:31] <Jagst3r15> 12.04
[03:31] <Jagst3r15> what package handles global menus
[03:31] <WACOMalt> Help, I cannot get qemu to use qemu-system-x86_64 as my cpu type for my VM
[03:31] <cipherboy> Regular depends on system, but should I assume the 3d unity then?
[03:31] <Jagst3r15> yes
[03:32] <cipherboy> Jagst3r15, have you tested to see if they work in the 2d version perhaps?
[03:32] <Jagst3r15> let me check
[03:32] <Jagst3r15> brb
[03:32] <otrenav> Hi all. I installed Ubuntu 13.04 on an iMac (8,1) but I can't boot from CD/USB now. I'm not sure if I overwrote the boot sector (?) or if the problem is that I only have a wireless keyboard that might not be recognized soon enough for me to press C or Option. Is there a way to tell the OS to boot from CD next time? Maybe via a command in the terminal? In Mac OS X there's an option in the Pref Pane for this. Is there anything similar in Ubuntu?
[03:32] <LucidDreamZzZ> seriously i am making 'Ubuntu 1' account
[03:32] <LucidDreamZzZ> another goddam password to remember
[03:32] <cipherboy> LucidDreamZzZ, is that really required by Steam for Steam on Linux? O.o?
[03:33] <LucidDreamZzZ> i dont think so i ran it in slack no prob
[03:33] <cipherboy> Where did you get Steam binaries from?
[03:33] <LucidDreamZzZ> t5hat why i ask
[03:33] <LucidDreamZzZ> the wa=hat?
[03:34] <cipherboy> (Steam or a PPA/Ubuntu) ...how did you install Steam, specifically drilling down as to where you got it from?
[03:34] <LucidDreamZzZ> sorry this kb is 2ft above head
[03:34] <bazhang> !enter | LucidDreamZzZ
[03:34] <LucidDreamZzZ> hmm not sure it on desktop
[03:35] <LucidDreamZzZ> i missed apt too much ;p
[03:35] <cipherboy> LucidDreamZzZ, if you got it from some place other than steam (be it PPA or from regular Ubuntu package tree), I would recommend you try getting it from Steam proper to see if that makes a difference (make sure to fully uninstall the other version first!).
[03:35] <Jagst3r15> no luck in 2D
[03:35] <Jagst3r15> cipherboy
[03:35] <cipherboy> Jagst3r15, Okay, package is hud.
[03:35] <Jagst3r15> how do I install?
[03:36] <cipherboy> !info hud | cipherboy, Jagst3r15
[03:36] <cipherboy> Jagst3r15, iirc, should be installed by default though... Quoting the package info "Unity HUD is a heads-up-display interface for controlling the behavior of
[03:36] <cipherboy> applications as well as Unity via typed-in commands. It provides access to
[03:36] <cipherboy> all applications menu via a single central interface, in order to simplify
[03:36] <cipherboy> application usage and make menus more accessible."
[03:37] <cipherboy> Jagst3r15, try a reinstall of the package if it is installed, else install it.
[03:39] <Jagst3r15> cipherboy i am not sure how to reinstall
[03:39] <cipherboy> Jagst3r15, if you want graphical open Synaptic (make sure you run with sudo/gksudo, eg, prompts for password) and search for package, then right click and hit re-install.
[03:39] <cipherboy> ...Assuming Synaptic is installed these days.
[03:40] <cipherboy> Jagst3r15, Else from terminal: sudo apt-get install --reinstall hud
[03:40] <Jagst3r15> sudo apt-get install --reinstall hud
[03:41] <cipherboy> Yep
[03:41] <Jagst3r15> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:41] <cipherboy> Ah, sorry. Make sure you close other package managers (Synaptic/etc)
[03:41] <Jagst3r15> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package hud
[03:43] <cipherboy> Jagst3r15, Odd... `dpkg --list | grep hud`?
[03:43] <Jagst3r15> run this: dpkg --list | grep hud ?
[03:43] <cipherboy> (no backticks. dpkg --list shows packages, grep allows you to filter, in this case, we want to find the packages which contain hud
[03:43] <cipherboy> Yep, sorry)
[03:43] <Jagst3r15> nothing came up
[03:44] <macwolf74> try apt-get update
[03:44] <cipherboy> Ah, good idea, but perhaps he needs to upgrade too to pull in the package...simply updating caches won't do much.
[03:45] <Jagst3r15> should i just upgrade to 12.10?
[03:45] <macwolf74> true
[03:46] <cipherboy> Jagst3r15, the 12.04 LTS is quite fine depending on what you want. It will (supposedly, not on it any more) be the most stable, and supported for quite a while. Personally though, I like to get one thing working before I go and upgrade to the next version. Up to you what you want to do as it is your system; we are just here to give advice on possible routes to solve problems you come to us with.
[03:46] <netlarip> Are the LTS versions of Ubuntu much more stable?
[03:47] <Jagst3r15> cipherboy i was trying to get libreoffice 4.0 and messed up a few things I think
[03:47] <Jagst3r15> maybe that screwed something up
[03:47] <Bayangan> Jagst3r15, just delete lock file and update the repository
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> Jagst3r15, If from a ppa you can use ppa-purge
[03:48] <cipherboy> netlarip, stable == supported longer, and yes, they put more work into fixing existing bugs than pushing new features (supposedly from what I have heard...don't actually track LTS/vs non differences much)
[03:48] <Bayangan> sorry not Jagst3r15 but cipherboy
[03:48] <Bayangan> :)
[03:49] <Jagst3r15> how do I use ppa-purge
[03:49] <netlarip> I am on 13.04 and I just have these misc things go wrong, just wondered if that was because it is not a LTS version
[03:50] <holstein> misc?
[03:50] <netlarip> Errors
[03:50] <cipherboy> Jagst3r15, sorry, not familiar, ask wilee-nilee
[03:50] <netlarip> Screen freezes
[03:51] <Ari-Yang> Jagst3r15, sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> e.g. sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa
[03:51] <Ari-Yang> !ppa-purge
[03:51] <Ari-Yang> ^ Jagst3r15
[03:51] <Jagst3r15> thanks sir
[03:51] <Ari-Yang> you're welcome
[03:51] <netlarip> Not a deal breaker, just wondered
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> netlarip, Using ubuntu since 6.04, never found any more stable than another.
[03:53] <WACOMalt> well if anyone else runs into the issue of qemu not recognising x64 ability, run qemu-system-x86_64 as the command, not just qemu, and not qemu-x86_64
[03:53] <netlarip> I have read that lightdm has some conflicts , not sure
[03:53] <Jagst3r15> I feel like non LTS releases are more or less high quality betas for the next LTS
[03:53] <holstein> netlarip: that could be the particular kernel and your hardware... could be the drivers for your graphics card
[03:53] <holstein> netlarip: if 12.04 works "better", i would use it
[03:54] <holstein> netlarip: the issues can, and most likely are specific to your hardware.. not everyone
[03:54] <netlarip> holstein: Yea maybe I am on open source VGA driver
[03:54] <holstein> netlarip: to answer the question i think you are asking, 13.04 is not freezing on everone's screen. its just you, or your hardware, or your config
[03:55] <netlarip> Think the mesa driver is still a work in progress
[03:55] <cipherboy> Sorry guys, have to drop.
[03:55] <Jagst3r15> c ya
[03:56] <Jagst3r15> anyone else know why my gloabl menus are not working?
[03:56] <cipherboy> Jagst3r15, if somebody can't help you here, find me online in say, 10 hours or so and I might be able to help then.
[03:56] <Jagst3r15> k
[03:56] <Jagst3r15> I purged the ppa with libreoffice 4 and no luck
[03:56] <matheus> hi, I have and Ubuntu desktop and I want to run it as a Server, in other words, I want run the ubuntu in lets say tty1 every time thats possible?
[03:56] <matheus> hi, I have and Ubuntu desktop and I want to run it as a Server, in other words, I want run the ubuntu in lets say tty1 every time thats possible?
[03:57] <netlarip> I have read Mesa 9.1.3 is still being worked on and may still be buggy
[03:57] <cipherboy> matheus, remove lightdm perhaps.
[03:57] <matheus> hi, I have and Ubuntu desktop and I want to run it as a Server, in other words, I want run the ubuntu in lets say tty1 every time thats possible?
[03:57] <matheus> hi, I have and Ubuntu desktop and I want to run it as a Server, in other words, I want run the ubuntu in lets say tty1 every time thats possibles?
[03:57] <usr13> matheus: That's enough.
[03:58] <holstein> !mesa
[03:58] <netlarip> holstein: Huh?
[03:58] <matheus> sorry for the multiples messages, I didn't see them.
[03:58] <holstein> !ati | netlarip
[03:58] <holstein> netlarip: try the propietary ones
[03:59] <matheus> cipherboy: only that and I can solve the problem?
[03:59] <netlarip> holstein: I heard it is better to use open source drivers
[03:59] <lauratika> if i encrypt a file and upload it to ubuntu one, can i retrive and read the file in another pc, or another system?
[04:00] <usr13> matheus: Although you've asked 3 & 1/2 times now, you're still going to have to re-ask but in a different way, (so that we can understand what your question really is).
[04:01] <usr13> matheus: Are you wanting to say that you want text only?  (Console mode only?)
[04:01] <matheus> usr13, yes
[04:01] <holstein> netlarip: "better" is a matter of opinion, and if your desktop is freezing, and the proprietary one 'works'.. i know what my opinion would be
[04:02] <holstein> netlarip: if you want to run open drivers, i would try and plan for that at the time of purchase
[04:02] <matheus> usr13, GUI consome RAM,gpu,etc... So I only need console
[04:02] <usr13> matheus: Highly irregular. Haven't seen this question before.  But, probably just need to uninstall ubuntu-desktop.
[04:03] <netlarip> holstein: Yea made a mistake on the VGA card purchase
[04:03] <usr13> !info ubuntu-desktop | matheus
[04:03] <holstein> netlarip: you can always use the vesa driver.. its open
[04:03] <matheus> usr13, thats the problem. I'm planning to buy my cubieboard, and it doesn't has ubuntu 12.04 server, only desktop
[04:04] <wilee-nilee> lauratika, I use truecrypt across OS's.
[04:04] <usr13> matheus: Probably other stuff as well, (in order to stip down to just a server system), but that's a start.
[04:04] <netlarip> holstein: Not even sure the best VGA card is for linux
[04:04] <matheus> ubottu, thats the problem. I'm planning to buy my cubieboard, and it doesn't has ubuntu 12.04 server, only desktop
[04:04] <matheus> affffffffffffff
[04:05] <lauratika> but i want to encrypt a file and upload it on ubuntu one, but i wonder if pc dies if i will be able to retrive the file again?
[04:05] <thunder1212> hi, how can i  create a windows7 live usb from ubuntu
[04:05] <usr13> matheus: I don't know what "cubieboard" is, so maybe someone else can be of assistance.
[04:05] <holstein> netlarip: "best" is a matter of opinion, and use case. i like intel, since i dont game and the open drivers are usually great
[04:05] <matheus> usr13, its an ARM based computer
[04:05] <usr13> O
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> lauratika, You just need a standalone encryption I would think that will read it with your pass.
[04:05] <matheus> usr13, like raspberry pi
[04:05] <netlarip> holstein: Intel VGA cards?
[04:06] <thunder1212> will dd work
[04:06] <thunder1212> ?
[04:06] <holstein> netlarip: there are no intel add on vga cards that im aware of
[04:06] <usr13> !arm | matheus
[04:06] <matheus> usr13, but with more CPU and RAM
[04:06] <netlarip> holstein: Is there a list of compatible VGA cards?
[04:07] <holstein> netlarip: therefore, you are either using the proprietary ones, which have their own issues, or taking a chance with the open ones. or vesa
[04:07] <holstein> netlarip: sure.. but it changes
[04:07] <holstein> netlarip: what do i do? get the *actual* hardware and run the os on it.. and test
[04:07] <lauratika> so i just need to have the key on the other pc?
[04:07] <holstein> netlarip: save my reciepts.. as you are seeing, 12.04 worked fine for you, and 13.04 not so much
[04:07] <thunder1212> can i create windows7 usb from unetbootin
[04:07] <thunder1212> ?
[04:07] <netlarip> holstein:  guess that is what I am doing
[04:07] <lauratika> wilee-nilee: lets say my HD dies, will i be able to retrive the file.
[04:08] <holstein> thunder1212: if mircosoft allows the creation of a USB for that purpose.. nothing about unetbootin wil prevent that
[04:08] <netlarip> holstein: Do I need to reinstall if I try another VGA card?
[04:08] <holstein> thunder1212: i would look at http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> lauratika, From where, you describe a file encrypted that you can upload and open again, failed HD are a whole other issue.
[04:09] <holstein> netlarip: the drivers are modular.. if you have a proprietary driver installed, i would remove it, and go back to stock, and the new/different card should be pickedup automatically
[04:09] <holstein> netlarip: what would i do? change the card and boot a live CD to test
[04:09] <thunder1212> holstein: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html will this work?
[04:09] <holstein> thunder1212: i dont know.. i dont use windows
[04:10] <holstein> thunder1212: but, its worth a try
[04:10] <netlarip> holstein: So there is no list for cards that work well with linux?
[04:10] <lauratika> i upload to ubuntu one the encrypted file (as i state before) then my HD dies, in another pc i download this file, will i be able in the new or the other pc to read this file?... what i need in order to read the file again.
[04:10] <holstein> netlarip: sure.. but what do you do if its wrong?
[04:10] <holstein> netlarip: there are no gurantees
[04:11] <holstein> netlarip: if i wanted guranteed to work hardware, i would purchase from system76 or similar
[04:11] <netlarip> holstein: As you say keep the receipt
[04:11] <holstein> netlarip: thats what i do
[04:11] <netlarip> holstein: I built my own system
[04:12] <holstein> netlarip: im a audio guy, and i used to read about audio devices working... but, you know, *i* have to be able to make it work.. and i have to be willing to make it work, and each time i want to install
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> lauratika, If you have a encryption that does allows a app to open it, I could do this with truecrypt on the file I have, not the only app that does this.
[04:12] <netlarip> holstein: Thanks
[04:12] <holstein> netlarip: and, i read "this work", and it doesnt with a certain kernel.. or whatever.. its not anyones "fault" but the manufacturer. im just saying, dont trust a list explicitly
[04:13] <lauratika> again what i need in oreder to have an encrypted file uploaded to ubuntu one, this does not include truecrypt, to be able to read it again in another pc?
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> lauratika, You might check on types of encryption that will fit your needs, but yes the file can be accessed using the right app.
[04:13] <netlarip> holstein: But if a card worked in an older kernel version should work in future ones right
[04:14] <kaushal> Hi
[04:14] <holstein> netlarip: why?
[04:14] <kaushal> I have likewise-open application which is an authentication system for Windows AD and I am trying to configure ringswitcher. Does likewise-open support it?
[04:14] <holstein> netlarip: what if something changes that breaks that? as you are experiening?
[04:14] <holstein> experiencing*
[04:14] <netlarip> holstein: Just a little frustrating
[04:14] <holstein> netlarip: i mean, with linux, you *always* get a full money back refund.. but you get no guarantees of support. those should come from the manufacturers
[04:15] <holstein> netlarip: sure.. thats what i suggested handing that off to a 3rd party, like in windows.. like with system76
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> !encryption
[04:15] <holstein> they are paid to make sure you have hardware support
[04:15] <holstein> netlarip: otherwise, its just the community doing what they can with a device that may or may not even be able to be supported
[04:16] <HexChatUser> Hello by looking at this http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-backports/ , I found there is no file named "InRelease" , so thats why i failed at update , why are ubuntu changing InRelease to Release
[04:16] <holstein> netlarip: and, that is getting better all the time, but if you want nvidia or ati, you need to be "flexible" on using closed source rivers
[04:16] <holstein> drivers*
[04:16] <netlarip> holstein: Guess I made a mistake making my own system
[04:16] <holstein> netlarip: yeah?
[04:16] <holstein> netlarip: AFAIK, you havent tried the proprietary drivers
[04:17] <holstein> netlarip: you made a mistake assuming an open driver would support a close proprietary device
[04:17] <netlarip> holstein: Never had luck with them in the past
[04:17] <holstein> netlarip: have you tried it?
[04:17] <holstein> netlarip: i have had bad luck with computers and drivers
[04:17] <netlarip> Not with this computer
[04:18] <holstein> netlarip: some work, some dont.. if you are having issues on an nvidia or ati card, the next step is to try the proprietary drivers
[04:18] <netlarip> holstein: Plus I don't want to make my system unusable
[04:18] <holstein> netlarip: that is what i suggested before, and i still do, and anyone here will agree
[04:18] <holstein> netlarip: im suggesting that this will help. you came here with freezing
[04:18] <HexChatUser> Hello by looking at this http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-backports/ , I found there is no file named "InRelease" , so thats why i failed at update , why are ubuntu changing InRelease to Release
[04:18] <holstein> netlarip: its a blob.. you install, and test.. you can remove it
[04:19] <holstein> netlarip: if 12.04 worked better, its still supported
[04:19] <holstein> im running 12.04 right now
[04:19] <netlarip> holstein: I can go back to open source driver?
[04:19] <holstein> netlarip: you can do whatever you want
[04:19] <kelly> guys i make a backup for the whole hard disk i intalled ubuntu on it using clonezill but now when i tried to restore it in virtualbox it stuck at 82% and now it takes about 1 hour ? any idea or is there any good program to make a backup for the whole system
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> HexChatUser, The channels asks for time frame of reposting about 10 min.
[04:19] <holstein> kelly: i use clonezilla
[04:20] <HexChatUser> wilee-nilee: is that an answer for my question? if its not im going to ignore that
[04:20] <netlarip> holstein: It works for the most part
[04:20] <kelly> holstein, could guide me how can i make a backup ?
[04:20] <holstein> netlarip: then, enjoy it.. otherwise, to address the freezing, instal an appropriate driver
[04:20] <holstein> !ati
[04:20] <netlarip> holstein: Ok and thanks
[04:20] <kelly> maybe i did something wrong
[04:21] <wilee-nilee> kelly, This a clone from you computer not another vbox?
[04:21] <holstein> kelly: this is not really a clonezilla support venue, but i just followed the prompts
[04:21] <holstein> kelly: it could take a while in VM.. ive never resorted to VM like that
[04:21] <kelly> yes i make a backup for my system and save it to an external hard disk
[04:22] <wilee-nilee> kelly, Try #vbox you can't just insert that into a virtual.
[04:22] <kelly> i followed this video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzxL95GmmYk
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> there is a process I believe.
[04:23] <holstein> it should restore though, and then throw an error
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> that vid is from vm to vm, why they don't just use the vdi in a bigger container is a mystery here.
[04:25] <thunder1212> holstein: cant i use dd?
[04:26] <holstein> thunder1212: if microsoft allows that, but its not our iso, friend.. you have to ask microsoft how to boot he product they create
[04:27] <holstein> thunder1212: i would try the tool i linked
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> thunder1212, I do an extract to a ntfs with a bootflag or the multisystem app at pendrivelinux.
[04:30] <thunder1212> wilee-nilee: i am on ubuntu
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> thunder1212, Me to.
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> all done in ubuntu
[04:31] <thunder1212> wilee-nilee: ok from ubuntu i have to create bootable usb windows7
[04:31] <lolcat> thunder1212: Why would anyone want to?
[04:31] <holstein> thunder1212: did the tool work?
[04:31] <thunder1212> holstein: unetbootin did not
[04:32] <thunder1212> holstein: wilee-nilee http://cloud101.eu/blog/2012/03/24/create-a-windows-7-live-disk-from-ubuntu-linux/ how about this
[04:32] <xmetal> i hae to say i haven't used ubuntu in a bit (it is on my old laptop though the fact that it cant boot to USB is the only reason i haevn't switched distro's ) though i just tried Mint again
[04:32] <xmetal> i am very impressed
[04:32] <holstein> thunder1212: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> thunder1212, And I said how I do it, this is basically offtopic, I can't walk you through, the info I gave is clear.
[04:32] <xmetal> Pendrivelinux would be the way to go, as it has been said
[04:32] <thunder1212> lolcat: not for me!!
[04:32] <holstein> thunder1212: that is the tool i have been asking about, friend.. have you tried it?
[04:32] <xmetal> Pendrivelinux's app is actually pretty straight forward
[04:37] <HexChatUser> Hello by looking at this http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-backports/ , I found there is no file named "InRelease" , so thats why i failed at update , why are ubuntu changing InRelease to Release
[04:37] <wilee-nilee> thunder1212, I am trying the tool from holstein's link seems to be loading a usb fine.
[04:38] <Surye> I just rebooted my system for the first time in about 6 months after applying the latest updates. Running 10.12, and now it boot cycles immediately after grub. If I pick an older kernel, it sits on a message about the initd image. I can boot to a live usb system and mount the system fine (RAID5). I have no error messages, or logs, or any idea where to go with this. I have run an fsck and everything looks good
[04:38] <holstein> running 12.10?
[04:38] <Surye> yes
[04:39] <Surye> that's what I meant
[04:39] <Surye> Quantal
[04:39] <holstein> just one older kernel?
[04:39] <Surye> several
[04:39] <holstein> choose the very first one
[04:39] <Surye> that's the one that reboots
[04:39] <holstein> Surye: the very last one, then
[04:39] <holstein> the oldest
[04:40] <Surye> it sits on that error on any other one
[04:41] <holstein> Surye: what error?
[04:41] <Surye> not error
[04:41] <holstein> Surye: what message?
[04:41] <Surye> It says building initrd image or something, I can check it when I reboot again here
[04:41] <Surye> on the livecd checking out some things
[04:42] <holstein> Surye: im about to leave, but im going to drop *exactly* whatever error you say into search and go from there
[04:42] <holstein> Surye: start by getting that exact message
[04:42] <Surye> okay, thanks
[04:44] <HexChatUser> Hello by looking at this http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-backports/ , I found there is no file named "InRelease" , so thats why i failed at update , why are ubuntu changing InRelease to Release
[04:45] <LucidDreamZzZ> ok thank you for the video fixes, excellent Ubuntu
[04:46] <jtreminio> Evening all. I want to setup a cron job to rm everything in /tmp every 10 minutes. However, this would require the cron job have root access. Is there a premade program to do this other than cron/
[04:47] <Bumptious> @jtreminio there is a root level cron, I think?
[04:47] <HexChatUser> yes just add the root
[04:48] <HexChatUser> */10 * * * * root rm -rf /tmp
[04:48] <Bumptious> run crontab -e as root/sudo, I think that works
[04:48] <HexChatUser> Hello by looking at this http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-backports/ , I found there is no file named "InRelease" , so thats why i failed at update , why are ubuntu changing InRelease to Release
[04:49] <jtreminio> thanks guys. I didn't know if running cron as root was acceptable or not
[04:49] <HexChatUser> jtreminio: i dont know if thats a sarcasm, but ubuntu does have root , just sudo with your primary user password
[04:49] <kboodu> jtreminio: Just remember you have the "root" user running jobs.  Are you sure you don't want to run it as your user with sudo rm -rf /tmp?
[04:51] <somsip> jtreminio: if you really want to do this, create a cronjob for root by 'sudo crontab -e' and make sure the job is rm -rf /tmp/* and not rm -rf /tmp
[04:51] <insGadget> i am wondering if for Ubuntu or Linux, do i need to follow this idea of having to have a firewire port and a video capture card to get hd video onto my laptop? the certain camera have hd video like the go pro hero 2 and 3 where i can take a sd card out of the camera and then put into my card reader slot and tehn have the hd video on my pc for editing purposes that way? can app like Avidemux do this?
[04:57] <jtreminio> HexChatUser: no, I was serious. I don't know if running cron as root is something that happens often.
[04:57] <jtreminio> kboodu: wouldn't it require password or adding user to sudo files as nopassword?
[04:58] <vnc786> what and how should i do ? resize partition ? i have got whole 750GB HDD with ext3 partition
[04:58] <vnc786> #/dev/sdb1            2048  1465149167   732573560   83  Linux
[04:58] <kboodu> jtreminio: Depends on how your system is setup.  You can also add the command directly to the sudoers file (with your username).
[04:59] <kboodu> jtreminio: Something like this in your sudoers file: tj   pc023 = NOPASSWD: rm -rf /tmp/*
[05:00] <kboodu> jtreminio: (Replace values as appropriate)
[05:00] <sere> insGadget: the HD comes from the source.. as long as your computer can do the graphics part of it resolution, etc.. there are many programs to edit the videos depending on what you wanna do.. avidemux,handbrake,avconc
[05:02] <vnc786> now i am on ubuntu 12.04 64bit i have some data on hard disk
[05:02] <insGadget> sere: so I can take the sd card from the "whatever-camera" in this case a go pro hero 3 which is mp4 , and then it is technically still hd video on my pc? and i can edit it with these programs? I am not sure why this website is saying i need a video capture card to get the video from the "source" to my pc. so my question is , is the sd card or direct usb from this camera the same thing?
[05:03] <HexChatUser> Hello by looking at this http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-backports/ , I found there is no file named "InRelease" , so thats why i failed at update , why are ubuntu changing InRelease to Release
[05:04] <kboodu> HexChatUser: What are you looking for specifically that you're looking for "InRelease?"
[05:05] <HexChatUser> kboodu: https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/998539_381996445256046_1290543620_n.jpg
[05:06] <kboodu> HexChatUser: You're not resolving us.archive.ubuntu.com.  So it can't even find InRelease
[05:08] <kboodu> HexChatUser: And that shouldn't be "InRelease" I don't think.  I think it's just plain "Release" (as I can see the file)
[05:08] <sere> insGadget: your video files are saved on the SD when you plug use the usb you are copying files from the over to the computer.. when you use the SD you are taking the source video files and mounting them from your computer.. from there you would probably need to demux to to edit or just rencode ..
[05:08] <sere> from the SD
[05:10] <insGadget> sere: all i want to do is, take a video from the camera, transfer that video to my pc, and then edit that video using one of those apps, and then upload that video to my website. is this possible if i have 8gb ram and i7 core then?
[05:12] <sere> insGadget: yup
[05:13] <insGadget> sere: roger that.
[05:14] <bluezone> i think i should throw this mac out the window instead of attempting to install ubuntu on it :S
[05:14] <bluezone> wireless networks arent even being detected on live cd
[05:19] <wilee-nilee> bluezone, lspci will tell you graphic info you need.
[05:20] <wilee-nilee> doh wireless
[05:22] <netlar> To install the binary video driver, I should do this from Addition Drivers right?  I am on 13.04
[05:28] <nurow> Question.. I have an application installed via PlayOnLinux, which is located on my main hard drive. But I want that application to be able to download files to my second hard drive. But if I go to set the download location inside of the application, it can only see its WINE container. What can  I do?
[05:31] <kelly> guys i want to make a backup for the whole hard disk in this picture what should i choose the the driver that i want to save a backupt on it or the driver i installed the ubuntu in it ?
[05:31] <kelly> http://i.imagebanana.com/img/uji56ygk/Screenshotfrom20130717083013.png
[05:32] <lolcat> kelly: driver?!
[05:32] <lolcat> kelly: Hardrive, ie drive. A driver is a piece of software
[05:33] <lolcat> kelly: also that is the one you are storing it on
[05:34] <kelly> sorry i mean  i want to make a backup for the whole hard disk in this picture what should i choose the the the hard disk that i want to save a backupt on it or the hard disk i installed the ubuntu in it ?
[05:34] <lolcat> kelly: You choose the harddrive you wish to store the backup to.
[05:35] <kelly> thank you so much :) sorry for my english it is not my native language
[05:35] <lolcat> Not mine either, but I take care to articulate me in a way that enables others to fully comprehend what I am trying to convey.
[05:36] <kelly> localhost, : should i format the harddrive i wish to store the backup into it ?
[05:36] <lolcat> kelly: Uhm, that depends. What is currently on the harddrive you wish to store the backup on?
[05:39] <kelly> localhost, it sasy : partclone fail ,
[05:48] <mayanksuman> Does anybody know the local iit kharagpur repository address?
[05:52] <gribouille> hi
[05:53] <gribouille> when using LVM for /, do we have to put /boot on a separate partition?
[05:57] <ashwith> 123
[05:57] <bluezone> ^_^
[05:57] <ashwith> hi
[05:57] <nurow> hmmmmmm, so, I've noticed my new laptop is getting hella slow wifi connectivity (5MBit or less of my 100MBit service). Where would I begin troubleshooting that?
[06:01] <we1c0me> topic
[06:01] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu support
[06:01] <netlar> I do not have a xorg.conf file, I only have a xorg.conf.failsafe file, is that a problem?
[06:02] <netlar> Just seems kind of strange to me
[06:03] <wilee-nilee> !xorg
[06:03] <wilee-nilee> !xorgconf
[06:04] <subhojit777> I am having trouble in setting up virtual host in apache2 fast-cgi php5-fpm. Please help
[06:04] <wilee-nilee> !details | subhojit777 for the channel, help means nothing
[06:06] <gxx> host key verification failed, reinstalled the os on the server
[06:06] <gxx> how to I make my laptop remove the old data of the old os on the server?
[06:08] <gxx> nevermind
[06:08] <gxx> found the file I was looking for to delete
[06:09] <gxx> don't know why we need to keep a log of places we ssh into
[06:09] <gxx> this aint no dns server
[06:09] <gxx> no point to have
[06:09] <subhojit777> I am trying to set up virtual host in apache2 fastcgi php5-fpm. I can access my local web sites through local host. I have followed the instructions given in this link http://www.howtoforge.com/using-php5-fpm-with-apache2-on-ubuntu-12.04-lts for installing and instructions in this link https://alexcabal.com/installing-apache-mod_fastcgi-php-fpm-on-ubuntu-server-maverick/ for vhost setup. But it is not working for me. I get 430 access denied error w
[06:09] <subhojit777> hen I try to access vhost.
[06:09] <FloodBot1> subhojit777: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:10] <netlar> Anyway, wish you guys would help
[06:10] <blazemore> netlar: You don't need xorg.conf but you can put stuff in it if you want
[06:11] <kboodu> netlar: What's your problem?
[06:11] <netlar> kboodu: I am trying to follow the instructions in installing the fglrx drivers
[06:12] <netlar> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:12] <netlar> And they talk about backing up the xorg.conf file and then
[06:13] <netlar> doing sudo aticonfig --initial
[06:13] <kboodu> netlar: If you don't have an xorg.conf file, you can bypass that step.  Most systems auto configure X for you.
[06:14] <netlar> kboodu: But I should to that aticonfig step right?
[06:14] <kboodu> Yes.
[06:14] <kboodu> netlar: The point of backing up the xorg.conf is IF you had special configuration, you would save it if something went wrong.
[06:15] <netlar> kboodu: Just concerns me a little since it says that it is creating a fresh xorg.conf file
[06:15] <gribouille> when using LVM for /, do we have to put /boot on a separate partition?
[06:15] <kboodu> netlar: Then you could restore it.
[06:15] <netlar> kboodu: I just had a xorg.conf.failsafe file
[06:15] <netlar> But I did back that up
[06:15] <kboodu> netlar: It (the aticonfig) SHOULD generate a new xorg.conf so it loads the driver specific that the aticonfig will use.
[06:16] <kboodu> netlar: That's ok that you backed it up, but it's unnecessary.
[06:16] <netlar> kboodu: But in the steps sound like you need to generate the new xorg.conf file yourself before rebooting
[06:17] <kboodu> Nothing else should touch the "failsafe" version.  (If nothing else, you can copy xorg.conf.failsafe to xorg.conf and reboot / restart X to get a "good" X configuration (with minimal effects)
[06:17] <kboodu> netlar: the aticonfig will generate a xorg.conf file
[06:17] <kboodu> netlar: err, SHOULD generate one.  (I don't have that utility).
[06:18] <netlar> kboodu: It says to run sudo amdconfig --initial before rebooting
[06:18] <kboodu> netlar: You should run the appropriate command in step 6 before rebooting.
[06:19] <kboodu> Not sure if you should run aticonfig, amdconfig or which option.  Might require a couple different runs to experiment and get a "good" version.
[06:19] <netlar> ok
[06:19] <kboodu> netlar: You might have to reboot to a console to "fix" it if your first attempt doesn't work.
[06:19] <netlar> kboodu: that is what scares me a little, not sure if something goes wrong how to recover
[06:21] <kboodu> netlar: Boot to a console only OR press <CTRL><ALT><F1> to start a console session (you can do that now and switch back with <CTRL><ALT><F7>)
[06:22] <netlar> Ok, well here I go
[06:22] <kboodu> netlar: Good Luck
[06:23] <LucidDreamZzZ> hey one thing, when i try to start TF2 i am getting exact same error as before and google is no help
[06:23] <kboodu> LucidDreamZzZ: What is TF2?
[06:23] <kboodu> LucidDreamZzZ: And what error do you get?
[06:23] <LucidDreamZzZ> Failed to create GL context.  Using the latest ppa drivers on the current LTS with intel hd3000
[06:24] <LucidDreamZzZ> team fortress 2
[06:24] <LucidDreamZzZ> but i can play other HL game ok
[06:24] <LucidDreamZzZ> hl2*
[06:24] <gxx> Should you sudo apt-get update & upgrade daily on an LTS, is it just better to not to any updates to keep your system more stable?
[06:25] <LucidDreamZzZ> gxx depends i guess
[06:25] <LucidDreamZzZ> if they are security/network related i would apply them
[06:26] <gxx> well how do you just apply the security/network ones without them all with update/upgrade?
[06:26] <kboodu> gxx: Tjat
[06:26] <kboodu> gxx: That's dependent on how update you want/need to be.
[06:26] <LucidDreamZzZ> someone else knows better though im pretty sure you can just keep updating
[06:26] <kboodu> LucidDreamZzZ: I'm seeing a message on teh steam community from Jul 11 about this
[06:27] <LucidDreamZzZ> really??
[06:27] <LucidDreamZzZ> ok imma have a look
[06:27] <kboodu> LucidDreamZzZ: I googled TF2 "failed to create gl context"
[06:27] <kboodu> http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/0/864973123149397753/
[06:27] <LucidDreamZzZ> yeah exactly
[06:27] <gxx> mainly on a system, that is a daily desktop, home-use, private network, that needs to be stable and not have problems
[06:27] <LucidDreamZzZ> ok great thank you
[06:27] <kboodu> That was first hit.  There are others.  ;)
[06:28] <kboodu> gxx: It's all on how comfortable you are.  I do frequent updates on my work laptop, home desktop and home servers (usually daily to a couple times a week).
[06:28] <kboodu> So it's up to you....
[06:28] <LucidDreamZzZ> yeah.. ok i was hoping for something intel specific but may be a clue it has nothing to do
[06:28] <kboodu> LucidDreamZzZ: But they seem to reference LTS 12.04.2
[06:29]  * kboodu wonders if some patch is interfering with TF2.
[06:29] <gxx> I'm just worried that I'll end up doing an update/updrade one day and just have massive problems, making the system unstable, and requiring to reload the OS
[06:29] <daya> gxx: which version are you upgrading
[06:29] <kboodu> gxx: Hmm.  That would be a pretty rare occurrence.  You'd have had to have done something pretty unique to cause that I think
[06:29] <gxx> the LTS
[06:30] <gxx> 12.04
[06:30] <netlar> I think I have a problem , I cannot run the aticonfig
[06:30] <daya> gxx: yeah I am doing the same,
[06:30] <kboodu> gxx: Standard systems are tested pretty carefully to ensure no impact occurs.
[06:30] <LucidDreamZzZ> hey some guy in that exact post has intel graphics, so this might be help.  kboodu thank you very much
[06:30] <kboodu> LucidDreamZzZ: np.
[06:30] <netlar> kboodu: It did not create the xorg.conf file
[06:30] <daya> gxx: LTS 10.04 to 12.04 with Alternate CD
[06:30] <gxx> I've just had problems after problems with 13.04 being unstable, people here said I had a hardware problem
[06:30] <kboodu> netlar: Did you create it as root?
[06:30] <netlar> I did it as sudo
[06:31] <kboodu> and no file was generated?  hmmm.
[06:31] <gxx> but when I switch to linux mint LTS, everything was stable, and then switched to 12.04 ubuntu LTS
[06:31] <daya> gxx: whats your upgrade method, do-release-upgrade?
[06:31] <kboodu> gxx: Are you having a specific problem, or jsut asking the question?
[06:31] <gxx> They sent me to the the hadware channel, saying I might have a had ssd or motherboard issue, and from what I grathered, it wasn't a hardware problem, but 13.04 causing all the problems
[06:31] <netlar> kboodu: aticonfig: No supported adapters detected
[06:32] <gxx> just asking question
[06:32] <netlar> that is the message I go
[06:32] <netlar> got
[06:32] <gxx> on what will be the most stable
[06:32] <kboodu> netlar: Maybe you don't have an ATI card.  Did you try the amdconfig option?
[06:32] <netlar> kboodu: Yes both
[06:32] <netlar> I have an Radeon HD 7750
[06:32] <gxx> Things I can do or not do (like updates) to keep my system stable, not asking for help about relating to problems, just giving examples
[06:32] <kboodu> netlar: Waht about aticonfig ---adapter=all
[06:33] <netlar> kboodu: aticonfig: No supported adapters detected
[06:33] <kboodu> gxx: Again, it's a matter of prference.  Or you could hold off on installing an update and see if anyone in the community raises an issue.
[06:34] <LucidDreamZzZ> i dont think this is Ubuntu bug
[06:34] <kboodu> netlar...Is your video card supported for the drviers?
[06:34] <LucidDreamZzZ> probably Valve
[06:34] <netlar> I have no idea kboodu
[06:35] <kboodu> netlar: What version of Ubuntu again?
[06:35] <netlar> 13.04
[06:36] <gxx> How likely, if I do no updates/upgrades from a fresh LTS install, am I really be at risk security wise of 'spryware' or being hacked on a home private network?
[06:36] <daya> I have upgraded 10.04 to 12.04 (LTS), with Alternate CD, but it doesn't upgrade the kernel , is there any option in the cdrom upgrade to upgrade the kernel too.
[06:36] <xmetal> i have just re-tried Mint 14 (last one i tried was identical to Ubuntu ... about the time of 9.04)
[06:36] <xmetal> i am very impressed
[06:36] <g0d1ess> how code it be?
[06:37] <g0d1ess> try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:37] <g0d1ess> it should upgrade your kernel
[06:37] <kboodu> netlar: What driver did you want to use?  Proprietary?
[06:38] <gxx> kboodu: How likely, if I do no updates/upgrades from a fresh LTS install, am I really be at risk security wise of 'spryware' or being hacked on a home private network? Such has a website with spyware or being hacked?
[06:38] <daya> g0d1ess: But I am in need for offline upgrade, so seeking the way from the cdrom upgrade itself
[06:38] <netlar> kboodu: I want to use the open source, but been having some problems
[06:38] <xmetal> i would put Mint on my old laptop but i cant get the dang thing to boot anything via USB (the internal cd/dvd drive is bad too)
[06:38] <kboodu> gxx: That really depends on your usage.
[06:38] <netlar> kboodu: screen freezes , not often but it does
[06:39] <kboodu> netlar: Screen freezes with Proprietary or Open Source?
[06:39] <netlar> kboodu: sometiems I get the low graphics message when I boot too
[06:39] <netlar> kboodu: with the open source
[06:39] <daya> g0d1ess: any idea?
[06:39] <gxx> kboodu: could you give me examples of things I would do that could put me at risk, I mean, are people really wasting their time coding spyware on websites for ubuntu, or a hacker to waste time hacking a linux machine, when most people are using windows and are easier?
[06:39] <dr_willis> xmetal:  Mint has its own support channels.
[06:39] <FileAComplaint> anyway of getting ubuntu 12.04 to boot and run via external HD?
[06:40] <kboodu> netlar: Hmm.  Sounds like it is an issue with that driver.
[06:40] <kboodu> netlar: But not 100% positive.  Searches are inconsistent regardign where the issue is.
[06:40] <dr_willis> FileAComplaint:  it can work that way.
[06:40] <netlar> kboodu: Well I have read that Mesa is still a work in progress for that card
[06:40] <kboodu> gxx: It depends on the websites you visit.
[06:41] <dr_willis> FileAComplaint:  install same as to an internal  hd.
[06:41] <kboodu> no system is 100% secure and there are zero day exploits.  You can go a couple of weeks without patching (maybe).  You have to weigh risks
[06:41] <kboodu> netlar: PM?
[06:41] <lolcat> kboodu: zfs has NEVER had any zero day exploits
[06:41] <gxx> basic websites, no shady stuff really, I just have a hard time believing someone would code spyware for like 0.01% of computers that run linux, vs the 99% of computers running windows
[06:41] <netlar> Sure
[06:42] <kboodu> gxx: Agreed
[06:42] <aeon-ltd> gxx: also it may work as a surprise attack
[06:42] <g0d1ess> MSG daya download the newest kernel in www.kernel.org
[06:43] <aeon-ltd> gxx: general public used to think macs were really secure now they are less so, let's say steam + maybe a linux steammbox gets released then linux users increase = more potential targets
[06:43] <gordonjcp> gxx: what's far more likely is that people write malware that runs in the browser
[06:43] <gxx> I think if I have a good firewall then I shouldn't have a problem, why types of firewalls are people running infront of ubuntu/linux computers? Are firewalls worth the effort for the seriuty advantages then just having linx with no firewall?
[06:44] <kboodu> gxx: OpenWRT.  :)
[06:44] <gordonjcp> gxx: in general Linux computers connected directly to the Internet vastly outnumber Windows machines, and there doesn't seem to be a real problem
[06:44] <gordonjcp> gxx: you don't need a firewall unless you're doing something deeply odd
[06:45] <gordonjcp> gxx: are you running a server?
[06:45] <gxx> gordonjcp: yea I know most web servers are running linux/debian but they tend to have professionals that keep it safe
[06:45] <gxx> I'm not running a server outside of my lan, I have servers in my lan I play around with, but nothing anyone on the internet can connect to
[06:46] <kboodu> gxx: Any firewall / router should add a good level of protection for you.  It MAY NOT be necessary.  But YOU have to weigh the risks
[06:46] <gxx> I have a few raspberry pies for sandboxes, and  a few other older desktops, but nothing that I'm running on where users can connect
[06:46] <lolcat> gxx: You dont need professionals
[06:47] <gordonjcp> gxx: so if you're behind a NAT router - like any perfectly ordinary home broadband router - you do not need a firewall
[06:47] <gordonjcp> gxx: at that, you don't need one on Windows either
[06:47] <lolcat> gordonjcp: That is not true
[06:47] <gordonjcp> lolcat: what's not true?
[06:47] <lolcat> a NAT router offers virtually NO protection
[06:47] <gordonjcp> lolcat: uhm
[06:47] <lolcat> Consumer routers are usually full of poorley written outdated software
[06:47] <gordonjcp> lolcat: you cannot see any device behind it from the Internet
[06:48] <lolcat> Id strongly urge anyone using NAT to stop, and use proper routing and protectiong
[06:48] <gordonjcp> lolcat: [citation needed]
[06:48] <lolcat> gordonjcp: Security through obscurity
[06:48] <gordonjcp> no, security through *not having a path to the target device*
[06:48] <gordonjcp> it's pretty simple
[06:48] <gxx> I was thinking if its worth the money to build a router, get something with a ivy bridge celeron/ dual nics motherboard computer to run pfsence (whatever its called) as a router/firewall
[06:49] <gordonjcp> gxx: overkill
[06:49] <gordonjcp> gxx: what have you got lying around
[06:49] <gordonjcp> gxx: the only advantage to using a modernish machine for that would be power consumption - get a wee 10W Atom board or something
[06:50] <gxx> Anything I have laying around uses too much power to run 24/7, I have two raspbery pis, but they only offer 100mb nic which is slow, plus they only have one nic
[06:50] <lolcat> gxx: Ivy bridge on a router, that is SO silly
[06:50] <kboodu> gxx: A second NIC can be added through USB
[06:50] <gxx> well, its a $80 motherboard, that has a celeron ivy bridge cpu, with dual nics
[06:50] <kboodu> gxx: But now we're moving OT.
[06:51] <gordonjcp> 100M ethernet is fine
[06:51] <gxx> yea, but the nics are only 100mb, I have a 30mb connection, and pretty sure it won't be able to handle the traffic or speed
[06:51] <dr_willis> Too bad the  raspberry pi  don't have better specs.   :)
[06:51] <gordonjcp> gxx: how fast is your Internet connection?
[06:51] <gxx> 30
[06:51] <gxx> 35*
[06:51] <gxx> With downloads maxing at about 4.5mbs
[06:51] <gordonjcp> gxx: so you don't actually need more than a 100M ethernet port, for the red interface...
[06:52] <gordonjcp> the *real* problem with the Raspberry Pi is that its onboard ethernet is really a USB device, and it's slow as balls
[06:53] <gxx> We have a few users, maxing out our connection with gaming/downloads/etc alot of the time, and I think a raspberry pi will end up slowing down after a few hours of maxing out
[06:53] <neo2> What happens in Ubuntu when you start a program which takes more ram than what's available?
[06:53] <kboodu> Lets stay on topic please
[06:53] <dr_willis> ! Swap
[06:55] <gordonjcp> neo2: eventually you start to use more and more swap space on disk, and things slow down
[06:55] <aeon-ltd> gordonjcp: why would they design the rpi like that? did they not think having 3 usb io would cause bottlenecks?
[06:56] <gordonjcp> neo2: when you've run out of RAM *and* swap space, something gets chosen to be taken out the back of the farm and shot.
[06:56] <neo2> ubottu, gordonjcp, my experience is things get frozen until many programs get evaporated and the desktop is flushed as well..
[06:56] <gordonjcp> aeon-ltd: cost, and part count
[06:56] <neo2> gordonjcp, how poetic :P
[06:57] <Guerrilla_> if i have an i7 processor and 8 gigs ddr3 ram
[06:57] <Guerrilla_> is swap file necessary?
[06:57] <Guerrilla_> not to mention a pretty beasty ATI radeon GPU
[06:57] <gordonjcp> Guerrilla_: it's a good idea to have it
[06:57] <Guerrilla_> well i don't did i fail
[06:57] <Guerrilla_> just installed
[06:58] <gordonjcp> Guerrilla_: you didn't set up a swap space?
[06:58] <neo2> Guerrilla_, allocate some 1GB swap...
[06:58] <Guerrilla_> is there a way to do that in lubuntu somewhere?
[06:58] <gordonjcp> Guerrilla_: it's not trivially easy
[06:58] <gordonjcp> Guerrilla_: you need to resize an existing partition to make some room, create a swap partition and add it
[06:59] <gordonjcp> Guerrilla_: there's documentation on the wiki on how to do that though
[06:59] <Guerrilla_> should i add it to the root folder
[06:59] <Guerrilla_> i set my root, where i installed lubuntu to about 10gigs of space
[06:59] <gordonjcp> no, it's a seperate partition and hasn't got a filesystem you can mount
[06:59] <tasos77> hello
[06:59] <Guerrilla_> and then i have home folder
[06:59] <Guerrilla_> for the remainder
[06:59] <gordonjcp> Guerrilla_: hah, you've got pretty near as much RAM as disk
[07:00] <Nahiyan> Does ubuntu have curl by default?
[07:00] <gordonjcp> Guerrilla_: don't worry about it for now.  If stuff starts acting really weird, consider adding it
[07:00] <Guerrilla_> when i open the taks manager im not even using a whole gig of ram
[07:00] <tasos77> i installed ubuntu an i have a question
[07:00] <Guerrilla_> so far im at 902MB of 7977 MB
[07:00] <kboodu> tasos77: Ask your question
[07:01] <Guerrilla_> im thinking i'll be fine without it tbh
[07:01] <Nahiyan> I normally use lie 400MB
[07:01] <Nahiyan> like*
[07:01] <Nahiyan> without a browser
[07:01] <gordonjcp> Guerrilla_: I've got 4GB, about 0.5GB free and about 300k in swap
[07:01] <Guerrilla_> im streaming a two hour long video
[07:01] <tasos77> my computer has 2 partitions
[07:01] <Nahiyan> dammit chromium :P
[07:01] <gordonjcp> later, all
[07:01] <Nahiyan> gordonjcp, bye
[07:01] <tasos77> the linux swap
[07:01] <kboodu> gordonjcp: Later
[07:01] <tasos77> and the ext4
[07:01] <Nahiyan> gordonjcp, he means never
[07:02] <Nahiyan> (it's a trap)
[07:02] <Guerrilla_> i was under the impression that with 8 gigs of ddr3 i'll be fine with no swap file
[07:02] <tasos77> i want to resize ext4 to create and one ntfs partition
[07:02] <kboodu> Guerrilla_: You may be.  Depends on what you run and how much RAM you're using (not buffers..those will be freed by the OS as needed)
[07:03] <tasos77> can i do this?
[07:03] <Guerrilla_> cool
[07:03] <Nahiyan> tasos77, you'll have to reboot into a LiveCD like ubuntu's installer
[07:03] <aeon-ltd> tasos77: using gparted
[07:03] <Guerrilla_> well im waiting for a game called shroud of the avatar
[07:03] <Guerrilla_> and something tells me that it wont even max my ram out
[07:03] <wilee-nilee> Guerrilla_, No hibernate is all and use.
[07:03] <Guerrilla_> when i start playing
[07:03] <kboodu> wilee-nilee: +1
[07:03] <Guerrilla_> yeah i don't hybernate
[07:03] <Guerrilla_> i just lock screen
[07:09] <bazhang> tasos77, do NOT attempt this on a running system. thus the reason for a LIVE cd
[07:10] <tasos77> can i use ubuntu iso disk???
[07:10] <tasos77> with the option try ubuntu
[07:10] <bazhang> tasos77, yes. the LIVE cd
[07:11] <wilee-nilee> tasos77, You have to boot it, you can from grub if you have no discs or usb's
[07:14] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[07:14] <libin> hello~~everyone~
[07:14] <dagjomar_> d
[07:15] <libin> I can't connet to my PC  with putty...
[07:16] <tasos77> bazhand i asked if i can do this with ubuntu disc not the live cd
[07:17] <dr_willis> libin:  you do have a ssh server installed?
[07:17] <dr_willis> tasos77:  the ubuntu desktiop cd is a live cd.
[07:17] <dr_willis> gparted also has its own   live cd.  which is smaller then a ubuntu cd.
[07:18] <bazhang> tasos77, the ubuntu cd = live cd
[07:18] <tasos77> ok asks cause i already have ubuntu disk
[07:18] <dr_willis> the ubuntu desktop cd - may or may not include gparted by default.. i dont recall. if not you can easially install it.
[07:18] <bazhang> tasos77, yes, we told you that several times now
[07:18] <bazhang> it does
[07:18] <dr_willis> and you WILL want to be sure the filesystems you are messing with are UNMOUNTED befor trying to use gparted on them
[07:19] <bazhang> the installer removes it upon installation
[07:19] <libin> My operating system is Ubuntu 13.04   ,I can 't connect to it with ssh tools. What should I do?
[07:19] <dr_willis> libin:  you did install the ssh server?
[07:19] <tasos77> what is ynmounted?
[07:19] <dr_willis> !mount | tasos77
  yes
[07:20] <dr_willis> you do not resize or 'partion' a filesystem thats in use (mounted)
[07:20] <libin> libin@libin-H61-S3:/etc$ sudo  netstat -nap |grep -i sshd
[07:20] <libin> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      811/sshd
[07:20] <libin> tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN      811/sshd
[07:20] <dr_willis> libin:  can you do a 'ssh locallhost;' on the server?
[07:20] <dr_willis> oops no ;
[07:21] <tasos77> i want to resize ext4 partition
[07:21] <dr_willis> tasos77:  so use the Ubuntu live cd,  or the gparted live cd.. and resize it..
   yes,I can connect .'ssh locallhost;' on the server
[07:22] <dr_willis> where is this ext4 normally mounted to tasos77 ?
[07:22] <dr_willis> libin:  and the machine using putty is where exactly?
[07:22] <emx> how do i add a directory to nautilus / "places"? CTRL+D doesn't do the trick.
[07:22] <dr_willis> local lan?  internet?
[07:22] <libin> local lan
[07:23] <vnwildman> tasos77: may use resize2fs
[07:23] <emx> local lan, local local area network...? ;)
[07:23] <libin> I want to know  what firewall used by Ubuntu 13.04
[07:23] <dr_willis> libin:  and you are giving putty the IP# od the ssh server?
[07:23] <nathanbz> can you order by case ?
[07:23] <dr_willis> libin:  none is tiurned on by default
[07:24] <dr_willis> !firewall
[07:24] <nathanbz> so like case x = y field1 else field2 ?
[07:24] <Slart> !firewall | libin
[07:24] <nathanbz> so sort by field1 if x =y else sort by field2 ?
[07:24] <Slart> oops
[07:24] <libin> how to disable the firewall
[07:25] <dr_willis> libin:  its NOT enabled by default.. did you enable it?
[07:25] <libin> no
[07:25] <dr_willis> libin:  can the windows machine pintg the ip# of the linux box?
[07:25] <dr_willis> ping
[07:26] <tasos77> ok i used ubuntu cd and have opened gparted
[07:26] <Galixy> hey
[07:26] <libin> I'm sorry
[07:26] <libin> Can't ping  Ubuntu host...
[07:27] <dr_willis> libin:  you did use the ip#? not the hostname?
[07:27] <libin> use ip
[07:27] <dr_willis> can the linux box ping the windows pc? can both ping the router  and outside websites?
[07:28] <libin> libin@libin-H61-S3:/etc$ ping 192.168.0.134
[07:28] <libin> PING 192.168.0.134 (192.168.0.134) 56(84) bytes of data.
[07:28] <libin> 64 bytes from 192.168.0.134: icmp_req=1 ttl=128 time=85.0 ms
[07:28] <libin> 64 bytes from 192.168.0.134: icmp_req=2 ttl=128 time=2.80 ms
[07:28] <FloodBot1> libin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:29] <Arashi> I have some questions, but I warn that I'm a n00b. I believe I'm running 11.04 and I keep getting stuck on purple screen. Whenever I try recovery mode, my comp freezes after "loading initial ramdisk". And yes, I started with Windows @.@ .
[07:29] <dr_willis> linux can ping windows, windows cant ping linux... points to the windows firewall blocking stufff to me...
[07:30] <Arashi> hmm... I'll try to get into my Windows partition and see if I can fix anything with that
[07:30] <dr_willis> !11.04
[07:30] <libin> But  my windows  can ping other linux server ...
[07:31] <dr_willis> Arashi:  i suggest  either upgradeing if you can, or a clean install of a newer release.
[07:31] <dr_willis> libin:  can the 2 linux boxs ssh to each other?
[07:32] <libin> ubuntu can ssh other.
[07:32] <libin> CentOS can't ssh Ubuntu
[07:32] <dr_willis> double check your firewall - be sure it has no rules..    'sudo iptables --list'   ( i recall)
[07:33] <libin> problems occurred in the ubuntu PC ,I guess.
[07:33] <dr_willis> and what error does centos give>
[07:33] <dr_willis> ssh -vvv linuxbox     should give some verbose error info
[07:33] <libin> ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.61 port 22: No route to host
[07:34] <dr_willis> hmm. whats the ip of the centos box?
[07:34] <Wh1plash> If you ifconfig it what does it show?
[07:34] <libin> 192.168.0.163
[07:34] <libin> The same network.
[07:34] <Guerrilla_> if  i were to go to the ATI radeon website, would it help me setup the dual monitor thingy
[07:34] <dr_willis> and the ip of the linux bix IS in fact 192.168.0.61/
[07:35] <Guerrilla_> at the moment on a fresh install of lubuntu 64bit, it just mirrors itself
[07:35] <steveccc> hi all - whats the best way to sync 1 hard disk with a backup one (this is a data disk and not the os partition). I dont want live mirroring but to be able to connect it periodically to sync files
[07:35] <timfrost> libin: all netmask 255.255.255.0?
[07:35] <libin> yes,IP addr is OK.
[07:35] <dr_willis> Guerrilla_:  There are ati/fglrx drivers in the repos.. better to try those first. befor trying the drivers from teh ati web site
[07:35] <Guerrilla_> so do a synaptic package for ati
[07:35] <Wh1plash> I came into this late but iptables has been checked and verified that the ssh rules are in place?
[07:35] <Guerrilla_> drivers?? dr_willis
[07:36] <libin> I guess ubuntu firewall stop it.
[07:36] <dr_willis> Guerrilla_:  yes....
[07:36] <Guerrilla_> kk thanks man
[07:36] <Wh1plash> if you can ssh in the console to localhost then it sounds like a firewall issue
[07:36] <dr_willis> !ati
  yes,Ubuntu use iptables?
[07:37] <dr_willis> double check your firewall - be sure it has no rules..    'sudo iptables --list'       <---------------- libin   yes.. it can.
[07:37] <dr_willis> ufw and gufw are a front end to the iptables commands.
[07:37] <Wh1plash> libin: Yep
[07:38] <Wh1plash> As dr_willis said ufw and gufw are useful and make things much easier
  There are no rules
[07:38] <dr_willis> sudo iptables --flush                  cleans out all rules. :) but  thats about the extent of my firewall-fu-skiolls
[07:39] <Guerrilla_> dr_willis, when i go to synaptic package manager there is a few xserver-xorg-video-ati things that are already checked, does that mean i already have them?
[07:39] <Wh1plash> if you do a sudo ufw status what do you see?
[07:39] <aeon-ltd> iptables commands are a pain to remember though
[07:40] <gurpinder> hi!! I accidently deleted my .deb files in  /var/cache/apt/archives/. Is there any way to recover these. Please Help!!!
[07:40] <dr_willis> Guerrilla_:  yes. but the FGLRX drivers are repackaged from teh ati site, its whats needed for full use of many ati cards. the  'addational-drivers' tool is normally used to install the fglrx drivers
[07:40] <libin> libin@libin-H61-S3:/etc$ sudo ufw
[07:40] <libin> ERROR: not enough args
[07:40] <dr_willis> 'sudo uft status'
[07:40] <aeon-ltd> you forgot status
[07:40] <Guerrilla_> dr_willis, should i search for FGLRX drivers
[07:40] <libin> libin@libin-H61-S3:/etc$ sudo ufw status
[07:40] <libin> 状态：不活动
[07:41] <libin> Do you understand Chinese?
[07:41] <libin> dr_willis
[07:41] <dr_willis> Guerrilla_:  you shoul be using the 'addational-drivers' tool  like the guides say.    Depending on your  rlease the tool may be in a tab under the 'software-sources' tool. or runable via 'jockey-gtk'
[07:42] <vnwildman> libin: $ LANG=C sudo ufw status
[07:42] <libin> inactive
[07:42] <gurpinder> hello.. Please can anyone help me!!  I accidently deleted my .deb files in  /var/cache/apt/archives/. Is there any way to recover these. Please Help!!!
[07:42] <Wh1plash> libin: sudo ufw enable
[07:42] <dr_willis> cant just rranslate one line to us  :)
[07:43] <Wh1plash> sudo ufw allow ssh
[07:43] <timfrost> gurpinder: that shouldn't be a problem - that is where apt stores .deb files before installing them.  apt will fetch an y required files again
[07:43] <dr_willis> gurpinder:  use apt-get to redownload them basically
[07:44] <libin> Has been added.
[07:45] <gurpinder> timfrost: actually , I want to copy a  .deb file from there to my USM drive.But its empty!!
[07:45] <dr_willis> gurpinder:  use apt-get to redownload the package !!!!!!!
[07:46] <Guerrilla_> okay dr_willis, i just changed to Using video driver for the amd graphics accelerators from fglrx (proprietary)
[07:46] <Guerrilla_> was that the right decision?
[07:46] <dr_willis> if you want touse the fglrx drivers.. yes
[07:46] <Guerrilla_> that's what i'll need for dual monitor setup correct?
[07:46] <Guerrilla_> thanks again bro
[07:46] <dr_willis> I dont use ati.. it may or may not be needed.
[07:46] <dr_willis> bbl
[07:46] <Guerrilla_> kk
[07:47] <Guerrilla_> well trial and error is linux
[07:47] <Guerrilla_> lol
[07:47] <Guerrilla_> ill get it working
[07:47] <Guerrilla_> thanks for the info boss man
[07:47] <FloodBot1> Guerrilla_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:47] <gurpinder> dr_willis: Thank you . But couldn't get what that means... do you maen apt get * package ??
[07:48] <Guerrilla_> yeah
[07:48] <Guerrilla_> how do i check pms from xchat
[07:49] <dustindikes> :quit
[07:50] <Guerrilla_> sorry bro, i dunno how to see my privates
[07:50] <wilee-nilee> Guerrilla_, Should show in panel I believe, I have that off.
[07:50] <Guerrilla_> it's weird, i have to click users, in the bottom left hand corner just to see the chatroom list of people
[07:50] <vnwildman> gurpinder: try http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec to recovery del file
[07:51] <Guerrilla_> it said that somebody pmed me
[07:51] <wilee-nilee> vnwildman, Your suggesting to run testdisk for a lost deb?
[07:51] <Guerrilla_> but it didnt show up on the sidebar underneath #ubuntu
[07:51] <pagios_> ello, how can i make a modprobe card=2 when rebooting , the kernel is doing a modprobe card=19 by default would like to overwrite that
[07:54] <gurpinder> vnwildman:  Thank you, but i think its something different. that software is still there in my system . the thing is that i can't just find my .deb file in that path:- /var/cache/apt/archives/
   Thank you for your help.
[07:55] <wilee-nilee> gurpinder, If you know the name and it does not return by running a update, debs are on the web if you know the name quite often.
[07:58] <dr_willis> gurpinder:  once you install the .deb  you dont need the   .deb file any more... it will get auto cleaned out after a time
[07:58] <dr_willis> apt-get has a download option  if you know the package name
[08:00] <gurpinder> Okay, thank you all. but if i wanna copy  .deb file from one system to  another. how can I do that then ??
[08:01] <aeon-ltd> gurpinder: cp /path/to/file /path/to/destination
[08:01] <HypothesisFrog> Hi. I started a transfer across two computers via samba a couple of days ago, using Thunar file manager. I canceled. It still appears to be in the process of cancelling, two days later.
[08:01] <aeon-ltd> gurpinder: use to tab to autocomplete and reduce errors
[08:06] <dr_willis> gurpinder:  on a small lan, you may want to set up an apt-cacher-ng server on  one machine, and let it cache allthe packages/downloads for the rest of the lan
[08:07] <huzoubache> 我来了
[08:07] <gurpinder> aeon-ltd,dr_willis,  I ran a command : dpkg --get-selections.  It says youtube-dl is already installed in your system. But I can't find a complete .deb package anywhere in my system!!
[08:08] <blazemore> Could anyone explain the difference between the nvidia-310 (recommended), nvidia-310-updates and nvidia-313-updates? I'm not used to nVidia (only fglrx) and my instinct is just to go with the latest one
[08:12] <Jordan_U> gurpinder: That's normal.
[08:17] <Karven> Anyone on line ?
[08:17] <ikonia> Karven: many people
[08:19] <dr_willis> its over 9000!  well on the server..
[08:19] <aeon-ltd> it seems weird people ask to check
[08:21] <dr_willis> then leave.  ;-)
[08:21] <Karven> :-)
[08:22] <qwebirc2047> test
[08:23] <dr_willis> test passed
[08:24] <Wh1plash> Solid C
[08:24] <dr_willis> č?
[08:24] <Wh1plash> That too
[08:37] <Kartagis> anyone worked with aegisub?
[08:37] <Guest50584> I need a windows to linux translation, what's the equivalent to Start>run
[08:38] <Guest50584> i just want to start vlc without leaving a terminal open.. i'm aware of ctrl z
[08:38] <MagePsycho> hi guys
[08:38] <MagePsycho> #!/bin/bash
[08:38] <MagePsycho> PROJECTNAME=secret
[08:38] <MagePsycho> echo $PROJECTNAME
[08:38] <MagePsycho> echo $PROJECTNAME-$(date +"%Y-%m-%d")
[08:38] <FloodBot1> MagePsycho: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:38] <MagePsycho> 2nd one deosn't work why?
[08:38] <Mathisen> ehm.. Guest50584 runing a command in the terminal
[08:38] <Kartagis> Guest50584: try alt+f2
[08:38] <DJones> Guest50584: You can do Alt & F2
[08:38] <Guest50584> cool cool thank you
[08:39] <Kartagis> Guest50584: I thought VLC had a GUI, which you can point and click
[08:40] <MagePsycho>  echo $PROJECTNAME-$(date +"%Y-%m-%d") is not printing project name
[08:40] <Znoosey> irssi-mike: if you really want to run it from command line you can end the command with &
[08:41] <Karven> How to change the size of the swap partition?
[08:41] <DJones> MagePsycho: If thats a bash script you may be better asking in #bash (could be ##bash)
[08:41] <Kartagis> MagePsycho: it does for me. did you maybe forget to export PROJECTNAME?
[08:42] <MagePsycho> #!/bin/bash
[08:42] <MagePsycho> PROJECTNAME=secret
[08:42] <aeon-ltd> Karven: gparted
[08:42] <irssi-mike> Znoosey: that's one i used to know
[08:43] <irssi-mike> Znoosey: ty
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> MagePsycho: ask in #bash too
[08:45] <Karven> I can't install gparted.
[08:46] <Karven> It says:Source can't be used.
[08:46] <shahan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5883477/
[08:46] <berryciderspider> guys i've just got a new desktop (Radeon 7750, AMD FX), didn't come with an os so i installed ubuntu, tried to run TF2 and im getting glitched output (semi repeating sound, really laggy graphics. I assume this is due to the graphics card (driver issue)?, although im not certain. The pc came with an amd driver, but it seems to be for windows (exe). What are you thoughts?
[08:46] <shahan> some packages are not downloading
[08:47] <keithjasper> interesting hack related question. I have a new install ubuntu 12.04 install, which I know the username and password for (not super user) and I forgot to install SSHd on it, its in my datacenter, can I some how hack it to install SSH?
[08:47] <aeon-ltd> keithjasper: not suspicious at all...
[08:48] <keithjasper> aeon-ltd: yea I know :(
[08:48] <keithjasper> its 10 miles away from me without remote hands lol
[08:48] <shahan> I am using the Main Server
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> keithjasper: you'll need a smarthands request
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> keithjasper: is there any remote access?
[08:49] <keithjasper> bugger lol thats what I thought … time for a drive later. I was supposed to install ssh but managed to forget
[08:49] <keithjasper> ok… lets switch it up a bit, how can i make a custom install script for ubuntu so that it automatically installs certain packages. :) so I don't make the mistake in future :)
[08:51] <tasos77> how can i unmount a partition?
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> keithjasper: sure, you can use a bash script
[08:51] <keithjasper> amount /mountedfolder
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> tasos77: sudo umount /mont/point
[08:51] <tasos77> ok
[08:51] <keithjasper> ActionParsnip: would I install this script separately, or would it be built in to auto run during installtion
[08:52] <babinlonston> Have 3 ubuntu servers all those ubuntu servers want to be backuped whole system not only filesystem  , and i want to be moved to a centos server were we use it as a file server , Ubuntu server have the IP address 192.168.1.55, 192.168.1.52,192.168.1.50 it want to be backuped in 192.168.1.15 /home/sysadmin/backup, And how can i restore it if there is a server crash
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> keithjasper: just copy it over somehow and run it, or put it on a persistance if you use USB to install
[08:52] <Skullclown> hey, I did a dist-upgrade on a headless ubuntu desktop server and now when connecting via xrdp and using Chromium, everything is purple. the colors are distorted and it's purple/pink-ish. this only happens on Chromium and Chrome. on Firefox and Midori, everything works fine - except for Flash. when there's Flash on the page, that flash part is distorted purple/pink as well and the image jumps
[08:52] <Skullclown> all over the place, it's broken.
[08:53] <Skullclown> I'm not the best at linux but I've obviously already tried reinstalling the browsers + flash plugin, also removing all plugins and using clean browsers
[08:53] <Walex> Skullclown: that's a very bizarre situation.
[08:53] <keithjasper> ActionParsnip: yea it would be on a USB stick so ideally want to build it into installed, something similar to RedHar Kickstart
[08:53] <tasos77> not working
[08:53] <Skullclown> Walex: it is. I did not expect it and I can't fix it
[08:53] <Walex> Skullclown: are you sure it is not just a compression artifact?
[08:54] <tasos77> i write sudo umount /dev/sda6
[08:54] <Walex> Skullclown: the other possibility is some sort of weird OpenGL thing
[08:54] <tasos77> and says not found
[08:54] <Skullclown> Walex: absolutely sure, it's near impossible
[08:54] <keithjasper> tasos77: no   - amount /place/where/dev/sda6/is/mounted
[08:54] <keithjasper> umount*
[08:55] <Skullclown> Walex: Chrome and Chromium are both entirely bugged, even the UI is purple/pink, but Firefox's UI is fine, only Flash doesn't work on Firefox
[08:55] <tasos77> ??
[08:55] <Walex> Skullclown: it is not a browser issue, it is either a virtual X server issue or a remote protocol access issue
[08:55] <tasos77> place where?
[08:55] <Walex> Skullclown: the 'dist-upgrade' probably upgraded the virtual X server
[08:55] <Skullclown> Walex: but isn't it weird that it only happens on these browsers? in this specific cases?
[08:56] <keithjasper> tasos77: if /dev/sda6 is mounted at /tmp you would do - sudo mount /tmp    check you mount command to see where it is mounted
[08:56] <Skullclown> these *
[08:56] <Walex> Skullclown: different browsers use different rendering approaches.
[08:56] <berryciderspider> guys i've just got a new desktop (Radeon 7750, AMD FX), didn't come with an os so i installed ubuntu, tried to run TF2 and im getting glitched output (semi repeating sound, really laggy graphics. I assume this is due to the graphics card (driver issue)?, although im not certain. The pc came with an amd driver, but it seems to be for windows (exe). What are you thoughts?
[08:56] <aeon-ltd> Walex: even for the UI? nothing is shared?
[08:57] <Skullclown> Walex: I do have a list of packages that was upgraded, want me to link them?
[08:57] <keithjasper> berryciderspider: ATI website for latest linux drivers?
[08:57] <aeon-ltd> berryciderspider: install drivers? try all options
[08:57] <Walex> aeon-ltd: yes, even for the UI. It could be the app uses XRENDER/GLX for everything
[08:57] <Walex> berryciderspider: almost certaintly your graphics are not being ccelerated.
[08:57] <nomike> hi
[08:58] <keithjasper> berryciderspider: also are you using WINE to run TF2 or do you have the linux native installed?
[08:58] <tasos77> i wrote sudo mount /tmp
[08:58] <Walex> berryciderspider: I have a 7850 with the proper AMD/ATi accelerated drivers, and I cannot play TF2 because the drivers don't have some moderately obscure OpenGL feature that the Source engine needs. I can play HL-era games though.
[08:58] <tasos77> and did nothing
[08:58] <Skullclown> Walex: I had to search through dpkg.log to find the packages because I didn't think of writing down all packages that would be upgraded.. since I thought it would go fine, like always
[08:58] <Skullclown> Walex: but here goes http://pastebin.com/JrYH1NXv
[08:58] <tasos77> at gparted iwant to delete partition /den/sda6
[08:59] <berryciderspider> keithjasper: how can i accelerate it?
[08:59] <keithjasper> berryciderspider: installing the official ATI drivers
[08:59] <Walex> berryciderspider: however as <keithjasper> says you might want to try the MS-Windows version of Steam under GNU/Linux using Wine. I use Crossover which is Wine with some nicer packaging and GUI.
[08:59] <tasos77> what write in terminal to unmount it?
[09:00] <nomike> I have a local workstation in my office and I'm looking for a way to use it remote. I have access to it via SSH when using another host as jumpstation which serves well for most purposes (I'm a unix sysadmin). But when I need to access internal websites or use our ticketing tool I need to have some kind of remote console.
[09:00] <Walex> nomike: thanks for letting us know.
[09:01] <berryciderspider> Walex: ok ill give that a shot
[09:01] <nomike> I enabled Remote-Desktop sharing and at the moment I'm using VNC to connect to it, but as my computer in work has two big screens and at home I only have a 12" Thinkpad this is very uncomfortable.
[09:01] <nomike> Do you have any better solution for that?
[09:01] <Skullclown> Walex: could you look through the package list to see if you can find anything? At this point, any help is really appreciated.
[09:01] <Walex> nomike: sure, just create a new virtual session with the right siz
[09:02] <Walex> Skullclown: I looked at the package list and there is no X or Chromium or xrdp upgrade, so it might be a compression artifact
[09:02] <Walex> Skullclown: or perhaps you have in a different way enabled some kind of "cute" graphics option
[09:02] <berryciderspider> Walex: just to check, are these the right drivers? http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English
[09:03] <Walex> pwd
[09:03] <Skullclown> Walex: I didn't change anything aside from dist-upgrade, nothing at all (except for apt-get update right before that).
[09:03] <Walex> berryciderspider: depends what you mean by "right". If use the Ubuntu-packaged drivers
[09:03] <Walex> Skullclown: hard to believe....
[09:04] <Walex> Skullclown: also, why are you using 'xrdb' and not VNC on a virtual screen
[09:04] <nomike> oops....whatever..
[09:04] <Skullclown> Walex: well, it's true..
[09:04] <Nanor> Hi, I installed a package when I wasn't in a virtualenv, how can I remove it?
[09:04] <Walex> berryciderspider: there are very nice pages that explain which drivers to use for Steam/TF2 under GNU/Linux.
[09:05] <Walex> berryciderspider: there are very nice pages that explain which drivers to use for Steam/TF2 under Ubuntu specifi cally
[09:05] <nomike> Walex, the problem is that I'm also running VMWare Player with a WIndows 7 VM on my Workstation beacause I need to run some software which is windows only (e.g. ticketing tool)
[09:05] <Skullclown> Walex: I don't know? As I said, I'm not the best with Linux so I just installed xrdp following a tutorial. When connecting to xrdp, it's via sesman-Xvnc in the dropdown, default choice
[09:05] <nomike> So if I open a new session, the Windows VM will still reside on the old one on the local screen
[09:06] <urbanslug> Anyone recommend a channel which I can ask about software development in general
[09:06] <abetusk> I updated some packages and afterwards it asked me to reboot.  Now it just gives me a dark screen and hangs.  I can boot into recovery mode but anything else just freezes the machine.  I think I have 12.04 installed.  Any suggestions would be welcome
[09:07] <nomike> Isn't there something like Remote Desktop? So when you login remotely you just hijack the current local session and it get's adapted to the rdesktop-viewers window size? Something like M$ is doing in Windows?
[09:07] <Walex> berryciderspider: look for the x-swat x-updates repo instructions
[09:07] <Walex> nomike: yes, VNC, and you can create virtual X sessions of the size you want
[09:08] <urbanslug> Anyone recommend a channel which I can ask about software development
[09:08] <nomike> I know, but how do I transfer a program running on a local X session to a new VNC-X-Session
[09:08] <Walex> nomike: you cannot...
[09:08] <nomike> urbanslug, do you have a general question or is it language dependend? In the latter case I would reccomend #c++, #python, #java, etc.
[09:08] <Walex> nomike: however, if you use the 'xvnc' session you can share your existing X session, but then it will be full size.
[09:09] <Skullclown> Walex: is xrdp not a good option? Or is VNC just that much better? xrdp is easy because it works with remote desktop (windows), does that also work with VNC?
[09:09] <irssi-mike> nomike: doesn't have to be linux either, used to use Putty on my windows laptop to control my playstation with x session
[09:09] <urbanslug> nomike general
[09:09] <urbanslug> nomike are you a dev? Maybe you can help.
[09:09] <Ben64> !alis | urbanslug
[09:09] <Walex> urbanslug: this is not the right channel.
[09:10] <Walex> urbanslug: if you have web-related devel questions try #web
[09:10] <nomike> All my system's run on linux. My Office workstationnormaly too, but I installed linux and converted the windows to a VM. I hate working with that unergonomic OS...
[09:10] <Ben64> is the bot down?
[09:10] <DJones> urbanslug: If its UBuntu specific maybe ask in #ubuntu-devel
[09:10] <Ben64> there we go, much lagged
[09:10] <DJones> Ben64: Just a go slow :)
[09:11] <Walex> Skullclown: both 'xrdp' and VNC do a nice job, but there are corner cases.
[09:11] <Walex> Skullclown:  if one does something strange, try the other.
[09:11] <nomike> how about FreeNX? Is this worth trying?
[09:12] <Walex> nomike: it is rather faster but far more complicated
[09:13] <nomike> btw. What's this remote login feature lightdm offers?
[09:13] <Walex> nomike: Skullclown: one of the advantages of VNC is that is comes with a native VNC/X server so you can run a virtual X session remotely. of the size you want
[09:13] <Walex> nomike: don't know but sounds like XDMCP
[09:13] <anonee> hi, I'm trying to add a bookmark using the Bookmarks menu or by pressing Ctrl+D but to no avail... (nautilus 3.4.2 in GNOME 3.4 fallback mode) can you please help me?
[09:14] <nomike> XDMCP would be a preferred option (if it's over SSH it's encrypted and compressed, so that's no problem) but I think it was abandoned some releases ago, wasn't it?
[09:14] <samertm> hmmm
[09:14] <samertm> does ubuntu detect plugged in microphones automatically?
[09:14] <Walex> Skullclown: I am saying corner case/compression/... because Unity etc. under Ubuntu rely critically on accelerated OpenGL/XRENDER/GLX and that can be difficult to provide remotely in a nice way.
[09:15] <nomike> samertm, depends on the hardware but generally yes
[09:15] <anonee> yes it does samertm
[09:15] <samertm> kk thx
[09:15] <Walex> nomike: XDCMP is not a remote graphics protocol, it is a remote management protocol for X sessions.
[09:15] <anonee> hi, I'm trying to add a bookmark using the Bookmarks menu or by pressing Ctrl+D but to no avail... (nautilus 3.4.2 in GNOME 3.4 fallback mode) can you please help me?
[09:15] <Walex> nomike: it relies on the X protocol over the  network to do the remote login.
[09:16] <nomike> I know, I've used it in the past. In GDM you could select an option to connect to a remote host, enter a hostname/IP and then you where presented with that host's GDM greeter
[09:17] <Guerrilla_> So i've got the my dual monitor setup to actually not mirror each other finally
[09:17] <Guerrilla_> but now i have a watermark in the lower right hand corner that says AMD unsupported hardware
[09:17] <Guerrilla_> i have an ati radeon Radeon HD 5750
[09:17] <Guerrilla_> GPU , any suggestions,
[09:17] <Guerrilla_> perhaps i have the wrong driver?
[09:18] <nomike> What I'm doing at the moment is to login to my WS using VNC and the first thing I do is open the system settings and enable screen mirroring. Then i'm able to work.
[09:18] <Walex> Skullclown: Chromium IIRC also uses OpenGL as mentioned: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Chromium-gets-GPU-acceleration-1069131.html
[09:18] <Tim2> hi
[09:18] <Walex> Guerrilla_: it depends entirely on which version of which AMD/ATi driver you have installed
[09:19] <Guerrilla_> ah, well i installed lubuntu the 64 bit version
[09:19] <Walex> nomike: sure, in that way your VNC session is the same as your console X session, including the size.
[09:19] <Guerrilla_> and on the ati website, there is an option for linux 86 / and linux 86 / 64
[09:19] <Guerrilla_> any ideas on which would be the proper one
[09:19] <Walex> nomike: the other possibility is for you to create a virtual VNC session of the right size.
[09:20] <nomike> VNC however has optimizations built in to only send updates for screen--regions where stuff actually changed (instead of sending the whole screen contents all the time). But when I'm running the Windows VM VNC doesn't know about individual controls inside the VM. It only sees one big bitmap which is constantly refreshed as a whole.
[09:20] <Walex> nomike: this would be distinct from the X session you use from your WS console.
[09:20] <nomike> true
[09:20] <Walex> nomike: that must be because the VNC server inside the VM is doing a bad job
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> !ati | Guerrilla_
[09:21] <nomike> wait a second, I think I have an idea...let me check something...
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> nomike: what is the purpose of the remote connection? VNC may not even be needed as a sleeker solution may exist
[09:21] <Walex> nomike: the other possibility is that when you login to your workstation you use an 'xrandr' command to change the size of your console X session to one compatible with your laptop screen
[09:22] <Guerrilla_> okay im downloading the correct driver from the website now
[09:22] <Ben64> don't get the website version
[09:23] <nomike> ActionParsnip: We have a windows-based ticketing tool which runs on a VMWare on my ubuntu workstation. Additionally we have some Intranet Websites which are only available from inside (and sometimes only work in IE, but most of the time FF is enought)
[09:23] <Ben64> Guerrilla_: look at the link that ubottu gave you above
[09:23] <Eit8> hi, I'm trying to switch from legacy driver solution to open drivers form my ati hd4xxx but I'm getting a black screen at boot, can someone help me pls...I can't understand what's going on with my drivers
[09:23] <Guerrilla_> i did man
[09:23] <Guerrilla_> but i know the actual GPU make and model
[09:24] <Guerrilla_> i just downloaded from the ATI site
[09:24] <Guerrilla_> the one for linux
[09:24] <MagePsycho> how to mv or rm the file which has \r in the name
[09:24] <MagePsycho> mv secret\r-.tar.gz didn't work
[09:25] <Guerrilla_> it gave me a file that says amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13-4-x86.x86_64.run
[09:25] <Ben64> Guerrilla_: well good luck, that method of installation is not supported here
[09:25] <Guerrilla_> okay
[09:25] <Guerrilla_> well fudge man
[09:25] <Guerrilla_> im just trying to get the right install
[09:25] <DJones> MagePsycho: Have you tried using tab completion to fill in the filename? eg "mv secre" and then press tab
[09:26] <MagePsycho> DJones that's not autocompleting
[09:26] <Ben64> MagePsycho: might need \\r or \\\r
[09:26] <Ben64> and the dashes mess up stuff too...
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> nomike: so no web UI you can use etc?
[09:28] <Guerrilla_> Please guys help me out here
[09:28] <Guerrilla_> i just want to make sure everything is current with my ATI drivers for my Radeon HD 5750
[09:29] <Ben64> Guerrilla_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:30] <nomike> ActionParsnip: Well, for the ticketing tool there is a web UI, but it's hardly useable at all and it really only work's well in IE. In Firefox and other browsers there is lot's of stuff which just doesn't work.
[09:31] <Guerrilla_> so when i download a driver from the site, per se, how would i go about installing it
[09:31] <Guerrilla_> it just gives me a bunch of text, when i try to open it
[09:31] <nomike> However I just found out, that VMWare player has a built in VNC-Server. So I could connect directly to my windows VM from outside to do any windows specific tasks. That's at least a bit better.
[09:31] <Mathisen> Guerrilla_,  sh name.run
[09:31] <Ben64> Guerrilla_: remember when i said that method is not supported here? well it still isn't supported here.
[09:31] <Guerrilla_> is it a bad idea to do that or something?
[09:31] <Ben64> sometimes, yeah
 mv secret\\\r-tar.gz ../ -> not working
 mv secret\\r-tar.gz ../ -> not working
 mv "secret\r-tar.gz" ../  -> not working
[09:32] <Guerrilla_> even though it said it was for linux
[09:32] <Guerrilla_> its still a bad idea?!?
[09:32] <Ben64> you can try it, but you can't come here for help with it
[09:32] <Sling> _MagePsycho: what are you trying to do?
[09:32] <Mathisen> im using the ati drivers no problem here
[09:32] <Sling> _MagePsycho: also, what do you mean with 'not working'
[09:32] <Ben64> _MagePsycho: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/delete-remove-files-with-inode-number.html
[09:33] <Eit8> exit
[09:34] <Mathisen> Guerrilla_, you will ne the linux headers installed to install the drivers ... >> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:34] <Guerrilla_> well it just concerns me that i have AMD unsupported hardware water marks, on the lower right hand corner of each of my monitors
[09:34] <Guerrilla_> that wasn't there, until i used catalyst control center
[09:34] <Guerrilla_> which is pretty odd to me
[09:35] <Ben64> Guerrilla_: try something easier first, like sudo apt-get install fglrx-updates
[09:35] <samertm> does anyone here have experience of /etc/udev/rules.d?
[09:35] <samertm> for hotplugging usb devices
[09:35] <Guerrilla_> kk
[09:35] <Guerrilla_> let me run that
[09:35] <nomike> Is there a way to install IE on linux (like with wine or that wine-based-game installer (have just forgotten it's name)?
[09:35] <Guerrilla_> okay its downloading ben
[09:36] <Guerrilla_> ben64,  when doing a DL via terminal will it automatically go to my /home partition
[09:36] <Guerrilla_> because when i installed lubuntu, i made one partition of roughly 30mb for the OS it self and the other 500 for home
[09:36] <Ben64> Guerrilla_: depends what you're downloading
[09:37] <Guerrilla_> aka one small partition for / , the larger portion for /Home
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> Guerrilla_: 30Mb, not Gb?
[09:37] <Guerrilla_> 30gp
[09:37] <Guerrilla_> gb
[09:37] <Guerrilla_> okay install is complete
[09:37] <Guerrilla_> shoudld i restart?
[09:37] <Ben64> yep
[09:38] <Guerrilla_> one quick question ben64
[09:38] <Guerrilla_> when i want to download something to the larger partition
[09:38] <Guerrilla_> which is my home partition
[09:38] <Guerrilla_> for games, software videos etc.
[09:38] <CoolCoder> Where to get link to download ubuntu? I need to install with windows 7. No wubi.exe please.
[09:39] <Guerrilla_> how would i go about doing that
[09:39] <Ben64> CoolCoder: ubuntu.com
[09:39] <DJones> CoolCoder: www.ubuntu.com
[09:39] <Ben64> Guerrilla_: normally stuff you do as your own user ends up in /home
[09:39] <Guerrilla_> ah so i assume system specific things, go into the \ partition
[09:40] <Guerrilla_> such as GPU stuff etc. ben64
[09:40] <fraser_> CoolCoder: Do you want to install inside windows? or beside windows?
[09:41] <CoolCoder> I am always getting a link to download ubuntu desktop and everytyime when I burn ISO it will be wubi. I have a wubi installation. Its taking lots of space and wired. Up on advice, Someone told me the issues was because of wubi and get a new version of standalone ubuntu. I am searching for that link where I can install on windows 7(I ahve a windows OS, I dont want to loose it) fraser_:
[09:42] <Guerrilla_> Coolcoder, i have restart real quick, but if you have a flash drive thats large enough, use universal USB iso maker, and put the image on a USB stick... thats the easy way
[09:42] <Guerrilla_> sometimes you may have to use GPARTED first to get your ext4 filesystem setup first
[09:42] <DJones> CoolCoder: Just download the ubuntu iso from the website, it may include the wubi.exe file, but as long as you burn it to dvd/usb and boot up with it, it'll let you install alongside windows without using wubi
[09:42] <Guerrilla_> and if for whatever reason it just goes straight to win 7 after the install, hold shift after restarting, and it will give you grub window to choose which OS to go to
[09:43] <Guerrilla_> brb
[09:43] <CoolCoder> DJones: Is that only possible to make dual boot  with wubi?
[09:43] <fraser_> CoolCoder: You want to go to ubuntu.com and download the .iso file.  You'll need that, regardless.  Then you'll want to download UniversalUsbInstaller to install in onto a usb flash drive.  Boot your computer with the flash drive plugged-in, and follow the instructions.  Ubuntu can install itself beside Windows, and will give you a choice every time to start the computer as to which OS you'd like to use
[09:45] <DJones> CoolCoder: No, I've never used wubi, as far as I know, wubi is included on the install media by default, but it doesn't get used unless you're already running windows and install ubuntu within windows using wubi
[09:45] <Guerrilla_> okay Ben64 looks like it worked brother
[09:45] <Guerrilla_> watermark is now gone
[09:45] <Guerrilla_> :D
[09:46] <Guerrilla_> and i suppose all drivers are installed as well
[09:46] <DJones> CoolCoder: How are you trying to install Ubuntu?
[09:46] <Guerrilla_> so things are good to go now?
[09:46] <CoolCoder> fraser_: I have installed earlier the same way ubuntu 11.x version. But I was having so many issues on space like 40GB is always filled. I have raised this issues to many ubuntu forums. Most of them answerd that, the reason is because I am using wubi installation and which is not the right way to install ubuntu. They adviced me to download and install another standard version. Confused now
[09:46] <CoolCoder> DJones: I have installed earlier from wubi file
[09:47] <CoolCoder> I mean wubi installer
[09:48] <fraser_> CoolCoder: If you install the way I mentioned, you'll be installing plain ol' ubuntu.  It should work totally fine!  If you're running out of space, you can shrink the size of your Windows partition to get more space
[09:48] <zipy> hey, i have an usb stick which is still still transfairing files (blinking) even if it said dd complete does someone know why it is like this?
[09:48] <zipy> -still
[09:48] <zipy> :P
[09:49] <nopresnik> zipy: lol, to me, flashing lights on USB sticks don't mean shit to me
[09:49] <DJones> CoolCoder: ok, just download the desktop iso from the website and burn it to a dvd or onto a usb stick, then put the dvd in the drive or plug the usb stick in, then reboot the computer, it should then startup the normal Ubuntu installer so that you can install alongside windows (this will need you create disk partitions to install on by either shrinking your windows partition or using free space if you already have it)
[09:49] <llutz> zipy: OS writes slower to USB than it read the data, so it's still writing
[09:49] <verses_> hi
[09:50] <_MagePsycho> any help on how to read file with \r in the name?
[09:50] <verses_> I can't login to unity 2D , although I changed to unity 2D on the login scree. any idea?
[09:50] <Ben64> _MagePsycho: i already gave you a link for that
[09:51] <zipy> nopresnik, when i look in multiload, it also says disk write
[09:51] <_MagePsycho> Ben64 which link can you send once
[09:51] <qiyong> what's the default tool to configure runlevel services?
[09:51] <Ben64> _MagePsycho: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/delete-remove-files-with-inode-number.html
[09:51] <zipy> so its still transfairing
[09:51] <zipy> with fullspeed
[09:51] <Gilligan94> verses_: I didn't think unity 2d was still supported, what version are you on?
[09:51] <llutz> _MagePsycho: less "foo\rbar"
[09:51] <verses_> Gilligan94, it's a ubuntu 12.04
[09:51] <zipy> llutz, ah so the dd status in terminal is the read data status only?
[09:52] <zipy> *red
[09:52] <Ben64> zipy: no, but the writes are getting cached
[09:53] <_MagePsycho> rm -i secret\r-.tar.gz is not working
[09:53] <llutz> _MagePsycho: rm "foo\rbar"
[09:53] <_MagePsycho> rm: cannot remove `secretr-.tar.gz': No such file or directory
[09:53] <Ben64> _MagePsycho: read the page better
[09:54] <zipy> Ben64, so when the last read for caching is done it says complete while write is still active. did i understand this correctly?
[09:54] <Ben64> zipy: no.. it finished writing everything to cache, so its job is done
[09:54] <zipy> hmm how can i find out how big the cache is
[09:54] <Ben64> not sure
[09:55] <llutz> zipy: issue "sudo sync", when that finished, cached writes should be done (usb shouldn't be blinking anymore)
[09:55] <qiyong> what's the default tool to configure runlevel services?
[09:56] <zipy> ye im just thinking of how to figure out when its really done if i have usb devices without leds if in ssh for example
[09:56] <llutz> zipy: force a sync and you'll be fine
[09:57] <zipy> how do i do that
[09:57] <zipy> rsync?
[09:57] <llutz> zipy: "sudo sync"
[09:57] <llutz> rsync hs nothing to do with that
[09:58] <zipy> so after dd shows done i simply sudo sync after?
[09:58] <zipy> i have to try taht out :D
[09:58] <zipy> thx
[09:58] <llutz> zipy: if you write on mounted media, mount those with "sync" option (won't do with dd)
[09:58] <llutz> *with dd writing on raw devices
[10:00] <lawnchair> im trying to install ubuntu (12 or 13) and the installer crashes the same way for both versions: "console-setup-linux breaks console-setup" - has anyone ever seen this before?
[10:00] <qiyong> what's the default tool to configure runlevel services?
[10:00] <llutz> !runlevel | qiyong
[10:01] <llutz>  Info about upstart at http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[10:01] <verses_> !unity2d
[10:01] <verses_> !unity
[10:01] <qiyong> what's the default tool to configure runlevel services? like rcconf update-rc.d
[10:01] <verses_> !notunity
[10:02] <qiyong> llutz: what about /etc/rc2.d ?
[10:02] <the-newsman> i got a VM contain ubuntu (SWEET), its webgoat is a local server that works at port 8080 however my browser cannot connect to this local host, any suggestions ?
[10:02] <llutz> qiyong: there is none atm, "sysv-rc-conf" might work (despite the name). you want to read about upstart and how it works, it has a wrapper for the old sysv-scripts
[10:02] <Guerrilla_> big thanks to Ben64
[10:02] <Guerrilla_> I appreciate ya bud
[10:02] <ddssc> how do I add a user to a group?
[10:03] <llutz> ddssc: sudo adduser user group
[10:03] <qiyong> llutz: is rcN.d still used?
[10:03] <llutz> qiyong: ... you want to read about upstart and how it works, it has a wrapper for the old sysv-scripts
[10:05] <the-newsman> i got a VM contain ubuntu (SWEET), its webgoat is a local server that works at port 8080 however my browser cannot connect to this local host, any suggestions ?
[10:05] <the-newsman> any helper ?
[10:05] <kiwis> hello anybody help me... how can i fix wifi(showing error device not managed)
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> the-newsman: can you ping the server?
[10:08] <the-newsman> ActionParsnip the server and the client r on the same VM
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> the-newsman: is there an access restriction in the server?
[10:08] <Skullclown> Walex2?
[10:09] <the-newsman> i dunno. i just downloaded the VM from the web and i followed the isntructions.
[10:09] <llutz> kiwis: do you have any "iface wlanX" entries in /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:09] <the-newsman> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwilliams.comp.ncat.edu%2FIA_visualization_labs%2FCase%2520Studies%2Fapplication_security%2Fcross_sitescript.html&ei=iFPmUfGQM8zXsgbcpoDgBA&usg=AFQjCNFn5nI8DuEgBw-0apEINohDZe3ooA&sig2=zk9g9QynWOOYg_sUiPVwRg&bvm=bv.49405654,d.Yms
[10:10] <kiwis> llutz: no
[10:10] <the-newsman> ActionParsnip here is the website i got this vm from http://williams.comp.ncat.edu/IA_visualization_labs/Case%20Studies/application_security/cross_sitescript.html
[10:10] <AaddeRammer> the-newsman, what is the output of the 'ifconfig' command? (without quotes)
[10:10] <AaddeRammer> what kind of addresses or interfaces do you see?
[10:10] <AaddeRammer> i think you only have a localhost interface, no "real" network interface
[10:11] <AaddeRammer> since it a vm
[10:11] <the-newsman> AaddeRammer can i query u ?
[10:12] <AaddeRammer> looking at the website I think they only made it available on localhost on purpose
[10:13] <AaddeRammer> because it's about hacking / testing security
[10:13] <llutz> if srever + client are inside the same VM, there is no need for more than lo
[10:13] <AaddeRammer> llutz, exactly
[10:13] <kiwis> hello anybody help me... how can i fix wifi(showing error device not managed)
[10:13] <llutz> (given that "server" listens on ALL ifaces)
[10:13] <the-newsman> AaddeRammer look at that http://pastebin.com/KsRuebrd
[10:17] <llutz> the-newsman: " sudo lsof -i :8080" shows your server listening on that port?
[10:17] <_MagePsycho> Can you guys reply at http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/83351/unable-to-move-or-delete-file-with-r-in-the-name
[10:17] <blazemore> kiwis: What wireless device do you have, and what Ubuntu version are you using?
[10:17] <the-newsman> llutz it gave nothing at all, i got the promprt back
[10:18] <llutz> the-newsman: theres your answer why the client cannot connect. the server doesn't even run
[10:20] <day> how do i find a mainboard with proper linux support? T_T googling for the chipnames (mainly sound and network) doesnt give me good results
[10:20] <verses_> _MagePsycho, why can't you delet with just  -  rm filename?
[10:21] <Sling> _MagePsycho: try find . -inum `ls -i filename | awk '{print $1}'` -delete
[10:21] <Sling> and just tab-complete the filename
[10:21] <Sling> (but foo\\rbar should reference a file named 'foo\rbar')
[10:22] <llutz> _MagePsycho: just doublequote the filename
[10:22] <SwedeMike> _MagePsycho: use "?" instead, rm secret?-.tar.gz
[10:22] <SwedeMike> _MagePsycho: or mv in taht case...
[10:23] <_MagePsycho> not working any of them
[10:24] <Sling> _MagePsycho: 'not working' is not a good answer
[10:24] <llutz> _MagePsycho: what is the filename exactly?
[10:24] <verses_> just tell me one thing guys - is it any worth waiting for my unity 2D to work or should I go back? since yesterday , I can't login to untiy 2D
[10:24] <Sling> say what you tried, and what happened exactly
[10:24] <blazemore> kiwis: What wireless device do you have, and what Ubuntu version are you using?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> verses_: what happens if you log in to the 2D session
[10:24] <Ben64> _MagePsycho: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/delete-remove-files-with-inode-number.html
[10:25] <Ben64> _MagePsycho: this is the last time i'm giving you the link, read it, it works
[10:25] <verses_> ActionParsnip, I get the same plain unity istead of unity 2D
[10:26] <verses_> a day before I had changed to plain unity ( I am not sure what is called ) just to get rid of chrome crashes, but yesterday when I tried to use unity 2D through login screen it logged me in right, but it was all plain unity
[10:26] <mersadkhan> after installing amd fglrx on ubuntu12.04.2 and restart it the amd catalist say that it cant find any amd driver. i have amd4200 and a amd 5000 hybrid !any body van help!
[10:28] <verses_> _MagePsycho, if none of them is working , time's now to check it's permission
[10:28] <blazemore> mersadkhan: How did you install fglrx?
[10:29] <mersadkhan> from additional driver
[10:29] <mersadkhan> from terminal
[10:29] <mersadkhan> even from  amd  site
[10:29] <blazemore> Well which?
[10:29] <blazemore> mersadkhan: Did it complete sucesfully, or did you get an error message during the installation?
[10:29] <mersadkhan> the non free
[10:29] <mersadkhan> all of them have same problem
[10:30] <mersadkhan> after restart i cant access my hardware
[10:30] <blazemore> Is your card supported?
[10:30] <mersadkhan> yes
[10:30] <verses_> mersadkhan, a humble request my friend , just type it on one line
[10:31] <_MagePsycho> mv $'secret\r-.tar.gz' ../ is working like a charm
[10:32] <k1l_> mersadkhan: can you install the fglrx from the official ubuntu repos and show the whole output from "apt-get install fglrx" on the terminal on a pastebin?
[10:32] <k1l_> mersadkhan: also make sure you got the right kernel headers installed
[10:32] <mersadkhan> i do it before
[10:32] <mersadkhan> the result was same
[10:33] <k1l_> mersadkhan: but im not sure if that hybrid cards are supported anyway. im not a fglrx guy
[10:33] <blazemore> mersadkhan: Is it a laptop? What model of laptop is it?
[10:33] <mersadkhan> yes
[10:33] <killer> heey
[10:33] <mersadkhan> hp
[10:33] <blazemore> mersadkhan: hp make a lot of laptops...
[10:33] <killer> gma 3600 chipset , is  i supported yet?
[10:33] <sandGorgon> is anybody here using the liquorix kernel ? I'm getting kernel boot panic on 12.04
[10:34] <blazemore> mersadkhan: What model laptop is it?
[10:34] <mersadkhan> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series]
[10:34] <mersadkhan> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Madison [Radeon HD 5000M Series]
[10:34] <mersadkhan> its my result of graphics models
[10:35] <k1l_> mersadkhan: again: if you pastebin the ouptput from that install people in here could see if errors occur
[10:36] <mersadkhan> There was a problem initializing Catalyst Control Center Linux edition.  It could be caused by the following.
[10:36] <mersadkhan> No AMD graphics driver is installed, or the AMD driver is not functioning properly.
[10:36] <mersadkhan> Please install the AMD driver appropriate for you AMD hardware, or configure using aticonfig.
[10:36] <mersadkhan> this is my amd catalist pm
[10:37] <blazemore> mersadkhan: Is this installed from AMD's website?
[10:37] <mersadkhan> no
[10:37] <k1l_> !nopaste | mersadkhan
[10:37] <mersadkhan> from aditional driver
[10:37] <blazemore> mersadkhan: where did you install it from?
[10:37] <blazemore> OK
[10:37] <k1l_> mersadkhan: do you even listen to what i told you?
[10:38] <mersadkhan> ok k1l
[10:38] <k1l_> i think i will use my tome for something better if you dont listen to me anyway :/
[10:38] <blazemore> mersadkhan: Can you please paste the result of running the command "sudo apt-get install fglrx" (without quotes) on the command-line into http://paste.ubuntu.com - nobody is going to ask you again or help you until you do it
[10:38] <mersadkhan> i get it
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> mersadkhan: what is the output of: cat /etc/iisue
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> mersadkhan: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[10:38] <blazemore> ActionParsnip: mersadkhan: cat /etc/issue
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: way ahead of you ;)
[10:38] <blazemore> 1 second ahead of me :P
[10:41] <mersadkhan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5883761/
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> mersadkhan: there is a known issue with 2xxx 3xxx and 4xxx ATi GPUs and 12.04
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> mersadkhan: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[10:42] <blazemore> That can possibly be fixed by updating to 13.04 and using the fglrx legacy driver
[10:42] <mersadkhan> i use them
[10:43] <blazemore> mersadkhan: But if you need to use 12.04 I guess you're using the open source driver
[10:43] <mersadkhan> but after aticofig --initial -f
[10:43] <mersadkhan> and restart i just have a black screen
[10:43] <blazemore> !nomodeset | mersadkhan
[10:44] <blazemore> mersadkhan: Scroll down to "How to permanently set kernel boot options on an installed OS"
[10:47] <mersadkhan> ok i will read this guides. thanks.they are new
[10:47] <_MagePsycho> how to read xml tag value from xml file using ssh?
[10:55] <subhojit777> I am having trouble in setting up vhost in apache2 fastcgi php5-fpm. I am using Ubuntu 13.04. Details can be seen here http://paste.ubuntu.com/5883788/
[10:56] <ikonia> subhojit777: when have you mixed instructions
[10:57] <ikonia> subhojit777: it should be as simple as installing the package php5-fpm
[10:58] <subhojit777> ikonia, I followed the instructions as given in the second link for setting up vhost. I get 403 error
[10:59] <ikonia> subhojit777: 1.) why are you not using the official ubuntu instructions 2.) why are you using instructions not for your version 3.) have you looked at what a 403 error is and then looked in the http logs ?
[11:00] <stein> lol
[11:00] <Mayne> guys
[11:01] <blazemore> ikonia: did you just ban stein for saying "lol" ?
[11:01] <ikonia> blazemore: no
[11:02] <k1l_> blazemore: no, he banned him because he is ban-evading and dissturbing the channel over and over again
[11:04] <subhojit777> ikonia, I did not looked into the official docs.. I will check the official docs. I always thought that installing applications in 13.04 are more or less same as in Ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10. I checked the logs apache logs and php error log but nothing there
[11:14] <ecoste__> .
[11:14] <ecoste__> Hello
[11:14] <macwolf74> hi there
[11:14] <Dinosaurio> How to close a X session (F7) from a tty?
[11:15] <ezra-s> kill it
[11:15] <LucidDreamZzZ> thanks Ubuntu i just wasted about 5 hours playing my favorite game
[11:15] <ezra-s> Dinosaurio, if you are using default ubuntu "sudo stop lightdm" will close it too
[11:16] <afflicto> Hello everyone. Has anyone had issues with strange characters showing up when programming? I'm using sublime text and sometimes my PHP code breaks due to these invisible characters "showing up".
[11:16] <Dinosaurio> ezra-s: and to start again, "start" and go to alt+F7, right?
[11:16] <ezra-s> LucidDreamZzZ, playing your favourite game is not a waste of time
[11:16] <ezra-s> Dinosaurio, to start it back, "sudo start lightdm"
[11:16] <LucidDreamZzZ> going to be tough to do work though now ;p
[11:17] <ezra-s> Dinosaurio, or "sudo restart lightdm" for both
[11:17] <ezra-s> LucidDreamZzZ, I played Don't Starve for over 60 hours already on Ubuntu too :P
[11:18] <LucidDreamZzZ> hehe i'll have to check it out, was playing hl2dm
[11:19] <ezra-s> It took me much efford to stop playing it, hooks badly
[11:19] <LucidDreamZzZ> only 6cents on my account i bought some tf2 stuff
[11:20] <LucidDreamZzZ> still cannot play that its Valves fault
[11:20] <ezra-s> afflicto, have you tried dos2unix?
[11:20] <afflicto> ezra-s: what's that?
[11:20] <ezra-s> LucidDreamZzZ, why not? I can play all valve games without problems
[11:21] <ezra-s> afflicto, a terminal tool to convert windows carriage returns to unix
[11:21] <ezra-s> windows as everything does that different too
[11:22] <LucidDreamZzZ> i dunno its a glitch in tf2 that i cannot start it it say GL error
[11:22] <ezra-s> LucidDreamZzZ, I very much doubt so, then probably is drivers not correctly installed, which gpu do you use?
[11:22] <xormor> Linux laptoppi-HP-G62-Notebook-PC 3.8.0-26-generic #38-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 17 21:46:08 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
[11:22] <xormor> is this a good system?
[11:23] <afflicto> ezra-s: I created and wrote the file on linux tho?
[11:23] <joshu_> I'm looking for someone to help me build a custom ubuntu for a laptop thin client solution with a few requirements.
[11:23] <LucidDreamZzZ> i can play other hl2 based game like hl2dm
[11:23] <LucidDreamZzZ> intel hd3000
[11:23] <ezra-s> afflicto, then it could be an encoding problem
[11:23] <LucidDreamZzZ> get over 200 fps
[11:23] <afflicto> ezra-s: I'm saving it as UTF-8.
[11:23] <ezra-s> afflicto, which is your native language?
[11:23] <macwolf74> xormor ? what exactly do you need help with
[11:23] <ezra-s> or the locale specified in your ubuntu?
[11:24] <ezra-s> maybe it has something to do with it
[11:24] <afflicto> ezra-s: I have a norwegian keyboard layout. But ubuntu is displaying English UK.
[11:24] <Dinosaurio> Hi, Unity doesn't work, when I open my session it just shows the wallpaper
[11:24] <Dinosaurio> any idea of how to force it to open?
[11:24] <macwolf74> ctrl+alt+t and try type in unity
[11:24] <ezra-s> afflicto, could it be norwegian characters that show like you described?
[11:25] <ezra-s> Dinosaurio, you broke something, which Ubuntu version are you using?
[11:25] <Dinosaurio> ezra-s: 12.04
[11:25] <joshu_> I'm thinking about using Ubuntu mini and lightdm if anyone has time to chat
[11:25] <afflicto> ezra-s: I don't think so. It's similar to the norwegian "Å" but the character showing up is "Â". Dno if you can see it. (I can't see it in the source code)
[11:26] <LucidDreamZzZ> Valve likes to break stuff they eventually might hopefully fix, but as long as hl2dm works
[11:26] <Dinosaurio> wow, I also don't have "close" and those buttons
[11:26] <Dinosaurio> it seems that compiz doesn't work
[11:26] <macwolf74> welp
[11:27] <ezra-s> I see A circle on top
[11:27] <ezra-s> A ^ on top
[11:27] <xormor> macwolf74: should I dist-upgrade?
[11:27] <Dinosaurio> abt udea of how to open compiz?
[11:27] <Dinosaurio> any idea*
[11:27] <macwolf74> xormor, what edition? and for what?
[11:27] <ezra-s> Dinosaurio, there is a program called unsettings, that could revert unity to defaults, but I'm not sure if it works for ubuntu 12.04
[11:28] <ezra-s> other than that and you don't have anything to lose I would go to my ~/ dir and start removing all config files related to unity
[11:28] <ezra-s> ~/.config/whatever... etc
[11:28] <afflicto> ezra-s: I checked the character on wikipedia and no it's not used in nowegian.
[11:28] <inad922> hellol
[11:28] <xormor> macwolf74: xubuntu 13.04 raring ringtail. I use irssi, Facebook and YouTube. And I program small mathematical programs in C++.
[11:28] <ezra-s> afflicto, then I don't know what could it be other than that :(
[11:29] <inad922> How can I change the session that starts on login?
[11:29] <macwolf74> you're already on the latest version
[11:29] <Dinosaurio> ezra-s: will it work ?
[11:29] <inad922> on 13.04
[11:29] <xormor> macwolf74: ok, thanks.
[11:29] <afflicto> ezra-s: hm ok. It's incredibly annoying as I keep re-writing entire lines all the time. :\
[11:29] <macwolf74> inad922, go to the login screen, and click the ubuntu logo on the top right of your username, select a session
[11:30] <inad922> macwolf74, thx
[11:30] <ezra-s> afflicto, have you tried another editor just to check?
[11:31] <afflicto> ezra-s: no but I could.
[11:32] <inad922> macwolf74, I probably phrased it wrong. I wanted to change the window manager
[11:32] <ezra-s> afflicto, doesn't hurt to check something else ;)
[11:32] <afflicto> ezra-s: but it happens seemingly at random tho so I dno.
[11:32] <inad922> I've already added to xsessions and stuff...
[11:32] <ezra-s> afflicto, you type and suddenly those chars appear out of nowhere?
[11:32] <macwolf74> inad922, what desktop environment?
[11:32] <Dinosaurio> ezra-s: ok I did what you said, but using a command "unity --reset". It works perfectly now. Thank you very much! :-)
[11:33] <inad922> macwolf74, awesome
[11:34] <afflicto> ezra-s: yes. And I can't see them in the source code. they show up in PHP's error messages tho.
[11:34] <ezra-s> Dinosaurio, ohh, didn't know about that one.. so easy.. lol, thanks for letting me know
[11:34] <inad922> brb
[11:35] <codephobic> hi
[11:35] <ezra-s> afflicto, so if they are no there as you type and just show in php error messages it could be the lang settings inside the php code itself
[11:35] <ezra-s> I'm guessing though
[11:35] <ezra-s> trying to think of the parts involved from where you code to where you see those messages
[11:35] <ezra-s> I guess those are when you access the website, etc..
[11:37] <codephobic> I'm looking to upgrade my AMD/ATI Radeon HD 3000 on-board graphics to a Radeon HD6670. I was wondering if anybody to confirm that this card is fully supported by the latest Xorg and Ubuntu.
[11:37] <codephobic> Is there a "HCL" that I can refer to before making any purchases?
[11:37] <afflicto> ezra-s: I think it's probably me pressing keys which does nothing on windows but has a function on ubuntu. Since I type quite quickly, I sometimes hold down certain keys while pressing others which usually doesn't create any extra character. Soemthing like that. I dno.
[11:39] <ezra-s> afflicto, a sensible editor should show them up
[11:43] <iceroot> !hcl | codephobic
[11:43] <codephobic> thanks iceroot
[11:46] <fu3L> I am looking to get a vps for setting up a shell acount for irc(eggdrop,psybnc) should i get openvz or kvm? And what os should i go for debian/ubuntu/centos?
[11:46] <codephobic> iceroot, unfortunately the HCL is out of date (and discontinued).
[11:48] <AaddeRammer> fu3L, doesn't really matter which distro. It needs to be one you are most familiar with
[11:48] <AaddeRammer> personally no experience with openvz, only kvm or xen
[11:49] <AaddeRammer> but any virtual solution is good enough for your needs I think
[11:49] <fu3L> oh ok if i go for kvm its double the price of the openvz
[11:51] <andybrine> afternoon everyone
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> andybrine: howdy
[11:52] <andybrine> does anyone know of any good transcription software for ubuntu?
[11:53] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[11:53] <AaddeRammer> hola BlueEagl1
[11:53] <AaddeRammer> BlueShark,
[11:53] <AaddeRammer> crap
[11:55] <BluesKaj_> hi AaddeRammer , too many of us blues nicks
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> the bluezzzz
[11:55] <AaddeRammer> hehe, indeed
[11:57] <inad922> hello
[11:57] <andybrine> is blueshark the name of some software/
[11:57] <andybrine> ?
[11:57] <superman_> alt sysrq commands don't seem to work on Lubuntu, how do i make it work?
[11:58] <DJones> !info blueshark
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> andybrine  you mean wireshark?
[11:58] <inad922> If I have an  email address a@b.com and the server's name is c.com and a user name "user" how do I configure thunderbird not try to log in as user@c.com but just as user?
[11:58] <andybrine> im not sure, im just looking for a program to transcribe speech to tech
[11:59] <andybrine> text*
[12:00] <greenie> uhm, hello?
[12:00] <compdoc> greenie, youre only allowed one question, so thanks
[12:01] <greenie> well crap
[12:01] <greenie> guess i blew that one already
[12:01] <compdoc> jk :)
[12:01] <greenie> lol
[12:02] <AaddeRammer> :)
[12:02] <greenie> okay so, i apparently destroyed my apt somehow when i tried installing some updates through the update manager
[12:03] <greenie> all i get now when i try to install anything is Setting up apt (0.8.16~exp12ubuntu10.11) ... ERROR: Can't find the archive-keyring Is the ubuntu-keyring package installed?
[12:03] <greenie> halp? D:
[12:03] <greenie> oh, and i'm using 12.04
[12:04] <ezra-s> greenie, go to terminal and type "sudo apt-get -f install" paste the output in a pastebin website
[12:06] <greenie> http://pastebin.com/Ps1mijPU there ya go :)
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> greenie: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> !info ubuntu-keyring
[12:07] <ezra-s> greenie, did you manually touch anything under /etc/apt?
[12:08] <greenie> i'm way too incompetent to actually try and manually do anything, so no :D
[12:08] <ezra-s> heheh
[12:09] <greenie> and the output of cat /etc/issue is: Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[12:09] <ezra-s> greenie, go here http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/all/ubuntu-keyring/download select a mirror and download the .deb file
[12:09] <ezra-s> after that
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> greenie: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-keyring
[12:09] <ezra-s> sudo dpkg -i ubuntu-keyring......
[12:09] <ezra-s> I assumed apt-get would not work
[12:09] <ezra-s> but still
[12:10] <fishcooker> i've 50-1000 costumized ubuntu client... i have one master server that will give update to the client if they want to
[12:10] <fishcooker> how to make it happen?
[12:10] <Sling> fishcooker: what kind of update?
[12:10] <greenie> okay, i'll try that and report back then ezra
[12:11] <fishcooker> sorry *50-100 client
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> fishcooker  ask in #ubuntu-server
[12:11] <AaddeRammer> fishcooker, run a local ubuntu mirror
[12:11] <fishcooker> copy and extract the new apps on the server to the client, Sling
[12:11] <AaddeRammer> or something like puppet
[12:12] <fishcooker> every change on the server will be clone to the client if they want to update
[12:12] <fishcooker> just like on demand update
[12:12] <ezra-s> strange that I don't see apt......---10.11 version in packages.ubuntu.com for precise.. maybe not updated?
[12:12] <greenie> ezra: thank you so much! it worked :D
[12:12] <AaddeRammer> fishcooker, do you also want to install extra packages centrally?
[12:12] <ezra-s> greenie, I'm glad
[12:13] <Sling> fishcooker: puppet is probably best for distributing packages/configurations like that
[12:13] <Sling> just make a manifest that says 'expect package foo'
[12:13] <fishcooker> what kind of extra package AaddeRammer?
[12:13] <Sling> (ask in #puppet for details)
[12:14] <AaddeRammer> fishcooker, running a local ubuntu mirror will give you the control to push updated packages to your clients. You need to set your clients to run automatic updates so they fetch it every day / week / etc
[12:14] <marco> hello
[12:15] <fishcooker> Sling: AaddeRammer i've seen this kind of update on openwrt box
[12:15] <fishcooker> i just want to implement the mechanism on ubuntu
[12:15] <fishcooker> is it possible to do that on bashscript
[12:16] <fishcooker> or should i take it on other programming language?
[12:16] <ezra-s> bash can do almost anything but pointers hehe
[12:16] <AaddeRammer> exactly
[12:16] <ezra-s> well, not so much
[12:17] <ezra-s> but with the help of other unix programs...
[12:17] <fishcooker> phpcli? ezra-s
[12:17] <fishcooker> or perl :-D
[12:18] <ezra-s> fishcooker, depends on taste.. I am not a developer just a "tryer" but I use bash for many tasks at work, very helpful
[12:20] <fishcooker> that's good ezra-s :-)
[12:21] <ezra-s> and it saves lots of time, LOTS
[12:21] <ezra-s> bash helps me being here helping so to speak hehehe
[12:22] <greenie> which is greatly appreciated ;-)
[12:23] <ddssc> why does xinput change my goddam device number every time I restart my computa?
[12:24] <ezra-s> lol
[12:26] <fishcooker> btw thankyou for quick response Sling, ezra-s, AaddeRammer and the others
[12:30] <greenie> so while i am here anyway: which distro would you guys recommend for an old atom netbook with 1 GB ram?
[12:32] <DJones> greenie: I'd try lubuntu/xubuntu on that
[12:32] <usr13> greenie: The one you like the best.
[12:32] <BluesKaj_> gee ubuntu should run ok with 1G
[12:32] <BluesKaj_> greenie,^
[12:32] <fl_smitty88> Xubuntun or lubuntu the latter of which i run on a inspiron w1750 with 8gb of ram no issues BlueEagl1
[12:33] <fl_smitty88> Xubuntun or lubuntu the latter of which i run on a inspiron w1750 with 8gb of ram no issues Blueskey
[12:33] <bgardner> greenie: I run Xubuntu on an atom netbook with 2Gb, runs well.
[12:33] <greenie> what about flash videos?
[12:33] <ecoste> Dota2 doesn't start, Amnesia crashes on load.
[12:33] <ecoste> Thanks Ubuntu.
[12:33] <usr13> greenie: What about them?
[12:34] <ecoste> What's the difference between Ubuntu and Xubuntu?
[12:34] <BluesKaj_> greenie, including flash video , 1G should suffice
[12:34] <fl_smitty88> greenie, apt-get -y install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:34] <greenie> well, they're slow to begin with in xp for an atom netbook, and they take a lot more resources under linux
[12:34] <usr13> !xubuntu-desktop | ecoste
[12:34] <greenie> at least that was my impression
[12:35] <fl_smitty88> fluxbox might be a good alternate to the other  des i recommended
[12:35] <usr13> ecoste: xubuntu runs xfce4 for it's desktop environment, ubuntu uses unity.
[12:35] <menace> 2
[12:35] <usr13> !xubuntu | ecoste
[12:36] <greenie> but hey, as long as it boots fast, runs libreoffice fast and handles the whole power management shenanigans as well as xp does i'm happy
[12:36] <ecoste> ubottu: thx
[12:36] <bgardner> greenie: My experience with flash video on my xubuntu netbook has been very good.
[12:37] <fl_smitty88> what kind of hard driver capacity are we talking her BlueKey?
[12:37] <greenie> well i tried that last time with an amd gpu about 2 years ago. might be it wasn't just that optimized at the time
[12:38] <BluesKaj> fl_smitty88,  I'm not the guy with the question
[12:39] <fl_smitty88> Sorry Blueskaj
[12:40] <BluesKaj> fl_smitty88, np
[12:40] <irssi-mike> !su
[12:40] <ecoste> !sudo
[12:40] <usr13> ecoste: see   ^^^^^
[12:40] <ecoste> First time using IRC, have no idea how bots work ):
[12:41] <usr13> ecoste: You did it correctly but ubottu does not repeat herself.
[12:42] <ecoste> How do you determine the gender of the bot?
[12:42] <usr13> ecoste: Try /msg ubottu !ubuntu   #Or what ever, for private message.
[12:42] <usr13> !gender
[12:42] <ecoste> Heh
[12:43] <usr13> !ubottu > ecoste
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> ecoste  the bot is always right, hence female
[12:47] <usr13> Needless to say, ubottu is very intelligent.  She is our best friends here on #ubuntu.
[12:47] <lapache> Bonjour, je ne suis pas mauvais en linux mais je ne vois pas comment je peux installer ubuntu vers un disque sata depuis ma debian ... Pouvez vous m'aiguiller ?
[12:47] <DJones> !fr | lapache
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[12:48] <ecoste> !fr
[12:48] <lapache> Sorry guys
[12:48] <DJones> lapache: No worries
[12:50] <usr13> lapache: doesn't matter if it's sata or ide
[12:50] <fl_smitty88> Hey guys is there a ubuntu advocacy channel
[12:50] <usr13> fl_smitty88: #ubuntu-offtopic   I think
[12:50] <fl_smitty88> 'advocacy
[12:52] <kostkon> fl_smitty88, #ubuntu-marketing
[12:52] <BluesKaj> never thought someone would create a factoid for ubottu even having a gender ...bots are clones , they can replicate themselves hence they are both male and female ...so the maintainers should remove that gender bias factoid :)
[12:52] <lapache> yeah but i want to do this using ubuntu iso, i know i can use debootstrap but my debian dont have this package up-to-date enough for having the "precise" ou "quantal" choice
[12:53] <DJones> fl_smitty88: There is #ubuntu-community-team That may be a channel that has what you want, or can point you to the right channel
[12:54] <usr13> BluesKaj: I suppose they may do that if she ever admits she's wrong about something.  ;)
[12:55] <usr13> lapache: What version do you have installed now?
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> lapache  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[12:57] <usr13> ?
[12:58] <lapache> MonkeyDust, Debian 6.0
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> lapache  better ask advice in the debian channel on how to create a chroot, i guess
[13:01] <usr13> Debian 6.0.0 was initially released on February 6th, 2011 and has been superseded by Debian 7.0
[13:02] <thunder1212> holstein: hi
[13:02] <thunder1212> holstein: i was successful in creating the usb bootable windows with copying the files.. any way i can do something similar for ubuntu?
[13:03] <thunder1212> holstein: or any linux distro?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: unetbootin
[13:03] <k1l_> thunder1212: easiest way is to dd the iso onto a usb-stick
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> thunder1212  multisystem
[13:04] <thunder1212> MonkeyDust: what is multisystem?
[13:04] <usr13> thunder1212: Why not just install to a USB drive and configure as you see fit.
[13:06] <usr13> thunder1212: But I suppose you could use something like clonezilla
[13:06] <thunder1212> ActionParsnip: but can i copy the files from iso (after mounting ) to the usb and make the usb bootable ?
[13:07] <verses_> k1l_, does that make USB stick bootable?
[13:08] <k1l_> verses_: yep
[13:08] <SonikkuAmerica> thunder1212: Nope. You would need to create a bootsector, which a dd or usb-creator-{gtk,kde} can do.
[13:09] <olivier_bK> somebody her use daemontool for application ?
[13:09] <usr13> thunder1212: See:  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu  or http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-with-windows
[13:10] <thunder1212> SonikkuAmerica: but i created a windows 7 usb from ubuntu today
[13:10] <SonikkuAmerica> thunder1212: Using Unetbootin, I presume?
[13:10] <thunder1212> SonikkuAmerica: no by just copying the files
[13:11] <SonikkuAmerica> thunder1212: And it didn't boot, I would assume?
[13:11] <usr13> thunder1212: Why don't you just install to USB?
[13:11] <rantic> good morning
[13:12] <thunder1212> SonikkuAmerica: i installed w7 using that usb on a laptop..
[13:12] <rantic> thunder1212: What's your problem? I'm late to the party
[13:12] <thunder1212> rantic: there is no problem just disscussion
[13:13] <k1l_> thunder1212: what is wrong with using dd or using the usb-creator?
[13:15] <LucidDreamZzZ> hey anyone have any luck running hammer editor?
[13:16] <LucidDreamZzZ> for hl2
[13:17] <rantic> LucidDreamZzZ: I did :D
[13:17] <LucidDreamZzZ> rantic, under Linux?
[13:18] <LucidDreamZzZ> ii have some mapping to do and i havent even try yet
[13:18] <rantic> LucidDreamZzZ: It's been awhile but yes, under Ubnutu
[13:18] <LucidDreamZzZ> well, that's encouraging
[13:18] <LucidDreamZzZ> really ok
[13:19] <LucidDreamZzZ> hmm i try tomorrow then, going sleep thanks
[13:20] <rantic> LucidDreamZzZ: Dream lucidly.
[13:29] <fishcooker> i have ubuntu netbook how to switch to server edition without clean install
[13:29] <fishcooker> is it possible
[13:29] <fishcooker> because the netbook 10.04 is not stable here
[13:35] <zero_coder> hey
[13:40] <jjavaholic> I still have a problem with a datetime indicator that isn't working how can I debug the problem?
[13:41] <Raziel2p> I want to prevent apache from booting at startup but still need the init.d script - what do I do?
[13:42] <ikonia> Raziel2p: it doesn't use the init.d script
[13:42] <ikonia> Raziel2p: the jobs been moved to upstart
[13:42] <zero_coder> hey.
[13:44] <jonathas> hi, i have a question about launchpad, someone can answer?
[13:44] <Raziel2p> ikonia: I see - which loads the conf files in /etc/init ?
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> fishcooker: add the boot option:  text
[13:44] <ikonia> Raziel2p: depends on the job, but yes
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> jonathas: ask in #launchpad
[13:44] <jonathas> ok
[13:44] <pesh> hi every1...
[13:45] <Sling> every1 is not in atm, can we help? :)
[13:45] <Raziel2p> ikonia: okay - I can't seem to find a conf file in /etc/init related to apache2 though
[13:46] <pesh> sure..programming..u in?
[13:46] <Sling> pesh: this is not a recruitment channel
[13:48] <pesh> ok...thanx...
[13:49] <Jalexm> I'm having issues installing Ubuntu 13.04 along side Windows 8
[13:50] <Jalexm> Anyone?
[13:51] <xeberdee> I'm running 12.04 LTS. SSH connection is very slow over LAN. So I followed this guide http://www.techpage3.com/2012/04/fix-for-slow-ssh-connection.html. It didn't work, so I set the two parameters back. Now I get connection refused - ssh is running, I deleted the entire contents of both users .ssh directories. Connection refused?
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> xeberdee: try connecting with compression enabled
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> xeberdee: do you connect to SSH using keys?
[13:52] <blazemore> xeberdee: Have you tried "ssh -vvv server" to see more verbose output?
[13:53] <xeberdee> ActionParsnip: I have one server I connect to with a key
[13:53] <ashish> gnome 3.8 willl not work in ubuntu12.04? i m not able to install in ubuntu12.04
[13:54] <xeberdee> ActionParsnip: compression something to add to sshd_config?
[13:54] <xeberdee> blazemore: not yet I'll try
[13:55] <blazemore> xeberdee: If you can't understand the output and it's still failing, put the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[13:57] <saiarcot895> Guest26575: I'm guessing it won't work, since (I believe) 12.04 has gnome 3.4
[13:57] <saiarcot895> Guest26575: if you do manage to install it, there is likely to be portions that won't work/will be broken
[13:57] <Guest26575> ya i m using 3.4 but was interested to use latest gnome
[13:57] <Guest26575> ok thanks :)
[13:58] <saiarcot895> Guest26575: you might want to ask over at #ubuntu-gnome
[13:58] <xeberdee> blazemore: nothing special - just port 22 connection refused. netstat says it's listening. 5 mins ago it was working - maybe UseDNS no has had some static effect...
[13:58] <Guest26575> i m new here may i know how to open that channel?
[13:58] <Captain_Proton> anyone know if in 13.04 you can make empathy popup ims? there use to be something you uncheck but I do not see it anymore
[13:59] <saiarcot895> Guest26575: try /join #ubuntu-gnome
[14:00] <blazemore> xeberdee: can you do "telnet hostname 22" ?
[14:00] <seriously_random> how to participate here: https://friendly.ubuntu.com/participate/ if I have Xubuntu, what package do I need to install?
[14:01] <xeberdee> blazemore: looks like port 22 - telnet: unable to connect to remote host
[14:01] <blazemore> OK so nothing is listening on port 22 there, xeberdee
[14:02] <blazemore> xeberdee: On the machine you're trying to connect *to*, can you do "ssh localhost" ?
[14:02] <xeberdee> tcp        0      0 *:ssh                   *:*                     LISTEN
[14:02] <blazemore> That doesn't look right
[14:02] <blazemore> I am not hugely familiar with netstat but I think there should be a 22 in there if it's ssh
[14:02] <blazemore> xeberdee: On the machine you're trying to connect *to*, can you do "ssh localhost" ?
[14:03] <xeberdee> blazemore: can connect by locahost
[14:03] <saiarcot895> seriously_random: I think only ubuntu is supported
[14:03] <saiarcot895> seriously_random: have you checked to see if you have System Testing or Ubuntu Friendly?
[14:03] <blazemore> xeberdee: OK so that means SSH daemon (server) is running, but a firewall or something is blocking access to it from another computer
[14:03] <blazemore> xeberdee: Can you ping the target machine OK? "ping target" from your source machine
[14:04] <seriously_random> saiarcot895, what package is it part of? No I don't see it anywhere in default Xubuntu installation
[14:04] <xeberdee> blazemore: that's wierd. I only changed PAM and sshd_config settings.
[14:05] <blazemore> xeberdee: If you can't ping the target, it's a networking issue
[14:05] <Jagst3r15> On a fresh install of ubuntu my brightness keys ar enot working
[14:05] <xeberdee> blazemore: shutting down the client machine :)
[14:05] <blazemore> xeberdee: If you can ping it, but can't reach port 22 with telnet, it's a firewall issue
[14:05] <Jagst3r15> Dell XPS l501x
[14:06] <OerHeks> seriously_random, i don't think Xubuntu has that testing routine > http://xubuntu.org/contribute/qa/
[14:06] <saiarcot895> seriously_random: checkbox and checkbox-qt
[14:07] <xeberdee> blazemore: I can ping it
[14:07] <xeberdee> blazemore: and I had a samba share mounted too
[14:08] <Captain_Proton> anyone know if in 13.04 you can make empathy popup ims? there use to be something you uncheck but I do not see it anymore
[14:08] <zipy> can i mount imaages within 2 partitions in it?
[14:09] <Captain_Proton> xeberdee, stupid ? but did you install ssh?
[14:10] <xeberdee> Captain_Proton: not stupid - but yes
[14:10] <seriously_random> saiarcot895, thanks
[14:10] <Captain_Proton> xeberdee, ok did you install failtoban or ssh monitor
[14:11] <blazemore> Jagst3r15: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1636959&p=10196162#post10196162
[14:12] <Jagst3r15> blazemore that safe to add ppa?
[14:12] <xeberdee> Captain_Proton: neither - I'm nopt sure what those packages are
[14:13] <Captain_Proton> xeberdee, fail2ban will ban IPs there fail auth more then 3 times
[14:13] <Captain_Proton> fro server and machine that are on the internet
[14:14] <blazemore> Is it OK to format your entire drive (eg. mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb) rather than make a partition table?
[14:15] <blazemore> I mean for a data drive not for an installation target obviously
[14:15] <xeberdee> Captain_Proton: don't have either
[14:15] <Frogging|work> Where does stderr go?
[14:16] <Captain_Proton> xeberdee, you said you change the pam and ssh_config. what di you change in there?
[14:16] <blazemore> Frogging|work: To the terminal by default
[14:16] <Frogging|work> blazemore: Even in 13.04
[14:16] <Frogging|work> ?
[14:16] <blazemore> Frogging|work: Yes, when you run a command in the terminal, you'll see both stdout and stderr unless you redirect them
[14:17] <Frogging|work> Okay
[14:17] <Frogging|work> Thanks
[14:18] <xeberdee> Captain_Proton: SSH was very slow to connect - I tried a guide which suggested that it was due to reverse DNS and system info. Changes in sshd_config = UseDNS no + comment out session optional pam_motd.so in pam.d/sshd
[14:18] <hrezaei> Hi people!
[14:18] <Semper> Anyone know how to get a display of the CPU core temps for all cores? (AMD K10)
[14:19] <hrezaei> how can I install synaptic package manager on 13.04
[14:19] <Semper> I don't need the canned lm-sensors install FAQ as I have checked.
[14:19] <Captain_Proton> xeberdee, di you reboot or restart openssh
[14:19] <Captain_Proton> d*
[14:19] <blazemore> Semper: just type "sensors"
[14:19] <Semper> hrezaei, http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/linux-tips/ubuntu/install-synaptic-package-manager-in-ubuntu-13-04/
[14:19] <rantic_> hrezaei: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[14:20] <Semper> blazemore, that does not work. Not only does it display only one K10 reading. That reading is wrong.
[14:20] <xeberdee> Captain_Proton: restarted both machines client and server with change. No luck - could not log into ssh at all. Set params back and rebooted both.
[14:20] <blazemore> Semper: Have you installed lm-sensors and run sensors-detect ?
[14:20] <Semper> That is a performance and cooling adjusted temperature according to the kernal module. i.e. that is not a physical temperature.
[14:20] <Semper> Yes and yes,
[14:20] <Semper> it is still wrong.
[14:21] <Captain_Proton> xeberdee, and still no luck?
[14:21] <blazemore> Semper: Does a module for your CPU's thermal sensor exist?
[14:21] <Semper> Yes.
[14:21] <blazemore> Semper: Does it have documentation?
[14:21] <xeberdee> Captain_Proton: nope
[14:21] <Semper> Under ubuntu I would have to recheck.
[14:22] <Semper> It is a FX 8120 octacore.
[14:22] <Captain_Proton> xeberdee, If it were me id sudo apt-get remove --purge ssh < check make sure /etc/ssh is empty then sudo apt-get install shh
[14:22] <Semper> I need to know and monitor all core temperatures as I suspect it is getting overheat on one core and causing cut outs.
[14:23] <Archanaut> Hey guys im a windows 8 user looking to possibly go to Ubuntu. Can anyone point me towards an article or website that can explain to me which version I should use? I can't decide on whether to go with 12.04 or 13.04
[14:23] <xeberdee> Captain_Proton: I'm thinking along the same lines - but then again it looks like there is some static info somewhere for PAM
[14:23] <blazemore> Archanaut: IMO, use 13.04 if you're in doubt. it has better hardware support
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> !sensors | Semper
[14:24] <Semper> ubottu, I have already done this.
[14:24] <Semper> ActionParsnip, even.
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> Archanaut: get 12.04, it is LTS and supported til April 2017, 13.04 is only supported til Jan 2014
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> Archanaut: 12.04 is also designed with stability in mind ;)
[14:24] <Semper> lm sensors is installed and displays one K10 temperature which I know for a fact is not a physical temperature.
[14:24] <Semper> it is a performance metric
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> Semper: thats all I know, maybe others can advise
[14:25] <blazemore> Semper: Can you please pastebin the output of "cat /etc/modules /etc/sensors*.conf
[14:25] <Semper> and it ain't lisiting every core.
[14:25] <xeberdee> Captain_Proton: I don't know why MOTD has really anything to do with PAM
[14:25] <Semper> one minute blazemore
[14:25] <Captain_Proton> xeberdee, maybe bt if PAM is broke that would not stop the ssh demon from running
[14:26] <xeberdee> Captain_Proton: yes - I'm not keen on messing with PAM
[14:26] <hrezaei> rantic_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5884408/
[14:26] <WACOMalt> Hey folks, how can I open a port on a Virtual Machine (a windows 7 VM in qemu) to the outside network? Need port 5009 to direct in to the VM
[14:26] <WACOMalt> I am on Ubuntu server
[14:27] <Semper> blazemore, http://pastebin.com/cEXNy33z
[14:27] <Semper> Cheers for the help.
[14:27] <xeberdee> Captain_Proton: I reckon ssh is fine and PAM is broke for some reason
[14:28] <Semper> fyi that is a ubuntu server on 12.04
[14:28] <blazemore> Semper: I don't see anything likely-looking in /etc/modules... try this
[14:28] <xeberdee> Captain_Proton: ssh runs on local machine, but I am refused acces to 22 and I'm running no firewall.
[14:28] <Captain_Proton> xeberdee, Here is my pam.d/sshd    -  http://pastebin.com/x8Bj4aQ4
[14:28] <blazemore> Semper: echo coretemp | sudo tee -a /etc/sensors
[14:28] <blazemore> Semper: sudo modprobe coretemp
[14:28] <Semper> coretemp is not present
[14:29] <Semper> or at least I had tried that already
[14:29] <Captain_Proton> xeberdee, back up ours and paste mine in reboot see if it works
[14:29] <Semper> Yup: "FATAL: Error inserting coretemp (/lib/modules/3.2.0-49-generic/kernel/drivers/hwmon/coretemp.ko): No such device
[14:29] <Semper> "
[14:29] <swordsmanz> is there a way to apt-get every available package in repo's ?
[14:29] <blazemore> swordsmanz: You can't do that, nor do you want to
[14:29] <blazemore> swordsmanz: some packages can't be installed alongside others
[14:30] <swordsmanz> what about just most of them ?
[14:30] <Semper> not to mention the download would take about 50 days
[14:30] <Semper> swordsmanz, you cannot simply install everything :P
[14:30] <blazemore> Semper: And you've *definitely* installed the package "lm-sensors" ?
[14:30] <greenie> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQwNTY *jumps around like little girl*
[14:30] <swordsmanz> I'm sure there used to be a way to install everything with debian :P
[14:30] <WACOMalt> Anyone here familiar with opening ports to a qemu VM?
[14:31] <blazemore> swordsmanz: No, it is not possible
[14:31] <blazemore> swordsmanz: some packages can't be installed alongside others
[14:31] <Semper> blazemore, with certainty http://pastebin.com/P4Ccc6nW
[14:32] <Semper> WACOMalt, that would be using UFW I think
[14:32] <xeberdee> Captain_Proton: I don't have this line: session    optional     pam_motd.so  motd=/run/motd.dynamic noupdate
[14:32] <swordsmanz> hmm so what would one do if one wanted ALL the software ?
[14:32] <Semper> WACOMalt, as far as I could tell with my last install,  pretty sure the install added default rules to UFW
[14:32] <compdoc> WACOMalt, did you use a bridge for the VM? all ports are open
[14:32] <Semper> ^
[14:33] <Captain_Proton> xeberdee, Ok is it working now?
[14:33] <xeberdee> Captain_Proton: maybe I did CTRL+K and deleted it..
[14:34] <Captain_Proton> xeberdee, :)
[14:34] <xeberdee> Captain_Proton: sec
[14:35] <WACOMalt> compdoc, not sure. I didnt change anything from qemu's default
[14:35] <WACOMalt> but it certainly doesnt seem that way, I set up an ftp server listening on 5009 and it isnt accepting connections
[14:36] <compdoc> WACOMalt, sounds like youre using the kvm virtual network, and that your guests use a different ip address range than the host. thats going to be difficult to work with
[14:36] <WACOMalt> the ip address on the VM appears to be in the 10.0.2.XX range
[14:36] <WACOMalt> well, Id prefer to set it up this way as I dont want the whole VM open to the network, only specific ports
[14:37] <seanz> Good day, humans. Can someone help me understand how to get a newer version of a package in Ubuntu?
[14:37] <WACOMalt> I just found that qemu can forward ports on it's own, "qemu -m 384 -redir tcp:3389::3389 windows.img"
[14:37] <WACOMalt> but I'm not sure if that has to be in the launch command for the VM or if that is run after launch
[14:37] <rantic> seanz: Hi seanz, what were you interested in gettnig?
[14:37] <seanz> The repositories that are set on the distro include a slightly older version than I need.
[14:38] <seanz> git 1.10.
[14:38] <seanz> rantic: ^ ^ ^
[14:38] <compdoc> ok, then sounds like you have it set up that way. You'll need to research opening ports on the host to the guest to allow traffic. sorry, but I'm not much help with that. I use bridges, and a seperate nic for the guests
[14:39] <rose_> help
[14:39] <rose_> TP-Link TL-WN8200ND
[14:39] <rose_> drive
[14:40] <Jagst3r15> Why is there language fragmentation in Ubuntu?
[14:40] <rantic> seanz: You're presumably at version 1.8.x right?
[14:40] <sanman> seanz: typically if the version of a packe you are looking for isn't in the official repos you have two options, look for a third party repo with updated packages, or build from source
[14:40] <seanz> rantic: Sorry, I misspoke. I'm at 1.7.9, but I need 1.8,.
[14:40] <greenie> i don't verstehen was tu talking about
[14:40] <seanz> rantic: Oh duh - I could just build from source.
[14:41] <seanz> rantic: I think I wanted to avoid that.
[14:41] <greenie> seriously though, what do you mean by language fragmentation
[14:41] <rose_> TP-Link TL-WN8200ND
[14:41] <rose_> drive
[14:41] <rose_> help
[14:41] <rose_> ubuntu 13.04
[14:41] <seanz> rantic: However, if I find a third party repo, I may end up needing to upgrade a bunch of other packages, wouldn't I?
[14:41] <rantic> seanz: Yeah more than likely ... hm
[14:41] <rantic> seanz: Ubuntu repositories should haveversion 1.8
[14:42] <seanz> rantic: I'm on 12.04 LTS.
[14:42] <seanz> rantic: I don't know if that makes a difference.
[14:42] <sanman> seanz: that could very well be why you have the older version
[14:43] <sanman> seanz: if version 1.8 is pretty new you more than likely won't find it in 12.04
[14:43] <seanz> sanman: That's what my experience has shown so far.
[14:43] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5884464/
[14:44] <rantic> seanz: Yeah it pushed version 1.8.1.2 on 13.04
[14:44] <sanman> seanz: sometimes in cases like this I make a chroot'ed install of a newer version of ubuntu and get the package I want in there
[14:44] <seanz> sanman: That sounds like a lot of work. Is it?
[14:44] <sanman> seanz: it's a bit complicated to go through if you've never done it though
[14:45] <seanz> Does it work with the system at large?
[14:45] <sanman> I usually script something out to use the version from the chroot
[14:45] <rantic> seanz: https://launchpad.net/~git-core/+archive/ppa
[14:45] <rantic> seanz: That PPA is an option
[14:46] <seanz> rantic: Wow, thanks. You and sanman have been hugely helpful. I'll try the ppa as my first option - see how tough that is to work with.
[14:46] <rantic> seanz: It should be as easy as adding it, updating your repository list and issuing an upgrade.
[14:47] <seanz> rantic: That would be the ideal solution. I've done similar things before and have gotten myself in trouble with related package upgrades, though.
[14:47] <sanman> seanz: if you ever want to look at building a chroot ubuntu actually has instructions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[14:47] <basiclas-> Hi all, I broke my software index. repairs fail and give me this(3 different errors separated by /// ): http://pastebin.com/zYaQtKw0
[14:47] <seanz> sanman: Thanks. I'll keep that link, because I may want to at some point.
[14:50] <Entvex> hello is sftp per default for Ubuntu 10.04 ?
[14:50] <Entvex> hello is sftp not allowed per default for Ubuntu 10.04 ?
[14:51] <seanz> rantic: Very nice! I've added that PPA, and now git shows an upgrade to 1.8.3!
[14:51] <rantic> seanz: Awesome.
[14:52] <seanz> rantic: They were being held at their current state, but I override that, so I'm hoping the upgrade goes smoothly.
[14:52] <Jagst3r15> Where is skype in 12.04?
[14:52] <Jagst3r15> Its not in the USC anymore?
[14:52] <holstein> !skype
[14:52] <seanz> rantic: Looks like the upgrade went smoothly.
[14:52] <seanz> rantic: Thanks again to you and sanman.
[14:52] <seanz> Problem solved.
[14:52] <holstein> Jagst3r15: i grab the deb from the skype site
[14:53] <Jagst3r15> yes but why not in uSC
[14:53] <rantic> seanz: No problem. You'll usually only run into issues with PPA's if they rely on a large amount of dependencies, but something like GIT should be painless.
[14:53] <seanz> In this case it was definitely painless.
[14:53] <seanz> I just need to be sure and note it in our install docs.
[14:54] <farbod> addle: you are always online?
[14:54] <k1l> Jagst3r15: its in the partner repo. due to the licences
[14:54] <Jagst3r15> how to enable that?
[14:55] <WACOMalt> for anyone in the same boat as me, in qemu, to open ports or remap, simply add -redir tcp:INPORT::OUTPORT to your qemu line
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> WACOMalt: post it on a qemu wiki if you can find one :)
[14:56] <k1l> Jagst3r15: did you even read the advises given to you?
[14:56] <WACOMalt> lol, yeah if I can find one
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> WACOMalt: or similar, spread knowledge
[14:56] <k1l> Jagst3r15: if so, read them again, the solution was altready linked to you
[15:00] <greenie> is anyone of you dabbling around with source engine games on an AMD gpu right now? if so, any recommendations for the driver to use?
[15:00] <WACOMalt> ActionParsnip, that I can do
[15:00] <WACOMalt> thanks for the help folks, I'm out!
[15:01] <greenie> catalyst 13.4 has horribad input lag :S
[15:01] <xeberdee> Captain_Proton: solved...
[15:01] <rantic> greenie: You're running these games natively through steam or wine?
[15:01] <greenie> natively
[15:03] <rantic> greenie: I won't lie I didn't have the issues you described
[15:03] <greenie> seems it's fixed in the upcoming 13.6 release, but that's still a few weeks away
[15:03] <xeberdee> Captain_Proton: I was actually using openssh! not ssh. Removed openssh-server, reconfigured the eth interface with a new address. Thanks for your help tho.
[15:04] <greenie> what gpu do you have rantic?
[15:04] <rantic> greenie: Primarily I use a GTX 460 but my server machine runs a 7570
[15:05] <rantic> greenie: I tested half life 2 and cs source around the time steam came out of beta and they ran great
[15:05] <greenie> hm... 5670 here. but i googled around a bit and it seems to be a issue for some people when they play source games with 13.x drivers. especially when they use the flashlight
[15:06] <Frogging|work> When I compile something from source and it goes to a place like /opt/program/bin/, how do I allow it to be called globally (like any other command)?
[15:06] <Pearce> greenie: maybe you should get a better card.
[15:06] <greenie> yeah if you used the driver that ships with ubuntu atm you were probably using 12.something :D
[15:06] <rantic> Frogging|work: You'll need to add it to your path
[15:07] <greenie> maybe i should, but not until star citizen pearce
[15:07] <greenie> haha
[15:07] <Frogging|work> rantic: Okay
[15:07] <rantic> Frogging|work: If you're unfamilair with the process you can throw /opt/program/bin into your bashrc or export PATH=$PATH:/opt/program/bin
[15:07] <Pearce> Lol, I was only kidding.
[15:08] <Frogging|work> Aight, thanks
[15:08] <Captain_Proton> xeberdee, no problem!  :)
[15:08] <greenie> just thought i'd ask around here to save me the whole "trying out the drivers one by one" thing
[15:08] <wasanzy> where can I hv hp beat driver for ubuntu?
[15:09] <Frogging|work> rantic: And how do I get the terminal to reload it?
[15:09] <Jagst3r15> how do I remove skype .deb
[15:09] <Frogging|work> (I added the folder to the path and the programs still don't work"
[15:10] <rantic> Frogging|work: can you paste the output of echo $PATH please?
[15:10] <Frogging|work> It's on my other PC, but I did do that command and it is indeed there at the end
[15:10] <rantic> Jagst3r15: You mean you've installed it or just remove the file from your system?
[15:10] <Jagst3r15> rantic I just installed skype from skype.com
[15:11] <Jagst3r15> but I cannot see it in the software center
[15:11] <MagePsycho> Guys, can anyone reply on this issue: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/83385/parse-xml-to-get-node-value-in-bash-script
[15:11] <Jagst3r15> I need to remove it
[15:11] <rantic> Jagst3r15: It wouldn't be in the software center, do you have synaptic?
[15:11] <HRezaei> How to resolve dependencies for apt-get install ?
[15:11] <Jagst3r15> yes
[15:11] <greenie> press ctrl+alt+t and type in skype?
[15:11] <Frogging|work> rantic: Nvm, I'll just reopen the terminal
[15:12] <rantic> Frogging|work: It should have worked ... you could try logging in/out to reset the session but seems uneccessary
[15:12] <Frogging|work> rantic: I reopened the terminal and it's disappeared from my PATH (I did echo $PATH)
[15:12] <wasanzy> any beat driver?
[15:12] <Jagst3r15> synaptic will show it sir?
[15:12] <basiclas-> Hi all, I broke my software index. repairs fail and give me this(3 different errors separated by /// ): http://pastebin.com/zYaQtKw0
[15:13] <rantic> Jagst3r15: It _should_
[15:13] <zipy> hey i got an initscript which works well when i manually start running it, but on boot, it shows it is starting but if i check, the daemon istn running
[15:13] <basiclas-> how do I repair the index?
[15:13] <greenie> have you tried removing the 3rd party ppas?
[15:14] <tyler_d> anyone here any good with expect?
[15:15] <k1l> tyler_d: no one is good with nothing :)   just ask a specific question
[15:15] <basiclas-> greenie: ah ok, how would i do that? what is the list file called?
[15:16] <greenie> uhm, no idea. i usually manage those via the synaptic package manager :D
[15:16] <rantic> basiclas-: /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:16] <greenie> rantic to the rescue!
[15:16] <rantic> basiclas-: But you should really do this from the Software & Updates application
[15:17] <k1l> basiclas-: why do you have debian sources included in a ubuntu release at all?
[15:17] <rantic> basiclas-: Are you using Ubuntu or an Ubuntu variant like Kubutnu?
[15:18] <k1l> basiclas-: open the software and updates programm and remove the debian sources from the 3rd party tab
[15:19] <bhek> Anybody who uses Guake terminal on Ubuntu 13.04 have a fix for the sides of the terminal not going all the way to the side of the screen?
[15:19] <k1l> basiclas-: and remove that ubun-tor PPA. it diesnt have precise packages so its useless anyway
[15:21] <zipy> hey i got an initscript which works well when i manually start running it, but on boot, it shows it is starting but if i check, the daemon istn running
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> greenie: PPAs are added in /etc/apt/sources.list.d in files there. You can remove PPAs by deleting the relevant file(s) there
[15:22] <DigeratiW> any of you use CONKY on ubuntu
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> zipy: how are you calling it at boot?
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> DigeratiW: many do
[15:22] <k1l> DigeratiW: some do
[15:22] <greenie> i could use # to uncomment them as well though, right?
[15:22] <DigeratiW> its like a fancy desktop info widget
[15:23] <DigeratiW> how do I add my ip address to it
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> DigeratiW: we know what it is, what is your question
[15:23] <DigeratiW> how do I add my ip address to it
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> DigeratiW: which one, WAN or LAN?
[15:23] <DigeratiW> lan
[15:23] <zipy> ActionParsnip, its in init.d and it gives me an echo starting ... ok
[15:23] <zipy> at boot
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> DigeratiW: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=15394
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> DigeratiW: http://conky.sourceforge.net/variables.html  fill your boots
[15:24] <DigeratiW> thnks I get to reading
[15:24] <rantic> zip/clear
[15:24] <rantic> oh I fail.
[15:26] <basiclas-> k1l: rantic: I'm using a preinstalled linux on a purpose built laptop
[15:26] <basiclas-> standard ubuntu as far as I am aware
[15:27] <DigeratiW> done, fixed thanks
[15:27] <k1l> basiclas-: what does "lsb_release -a &&uname -a" give you? (in a pastebin please)
[15:29] <raven> how to move rss news to imap without postfix/sendmail/...
[15:29] <Vec_> This might be a silly question, but is there a way to see if this bug is fixed for ubuntu 13.04 or CUPS 1.6.3? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1032456
[15:29] <greenie> half a test page saves ink though ^^
[15:29] <Vec_> herp derp
[15:30] <basiclas-> k1l: http://pastebin.com/3ZYv3ibA
[15:30] <Vec_> Seemingly i can downgrade, as some "USB backend"-thing was added to CUPS later than 1.5.3. But i'm wondering if it's fixed in newer versions, and more importantly, how can i accuratly figure that out myself?
[15:31] <k1l> basiclas-: please show a "ls -al /et/apt/sources.list.d" in a pastebin too
[15:31] <dustindikes> PAGE UP
[15:35] <basiclas-> k1l: Im never gonna use that zend server, guess ill remove that too, here you go - http://pastebin.com/VbFm6W79
[15:35] <Frogging|work> Is it considered bad practice to simply symlink compiled programs into a place like /usr/local/bin?
[15:35] <sud0man> Movie Error:  Bin: [decode],6, A Audio Video Interleave (AVI) demuxer plugin is required to play this stream, but not installed. - Why am I getting this error? Am I missing something?
[15:36] <Frogging|work> So that they're available to all users including sudo
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> sud0man: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> Frogging|work: sudo isnt a user
[15:36] <Frogging|work> I know
[15:36] <Frogging|work> But I want to be able to use it with the sudo command
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> Frogging|work: " all users including sudo "
[15:36] <Frogging|work> I should've worded it better :P
[15:36] <ecoste> .
[15:37] <sud0man> ActionParsnip, i am now installing it,.
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Frogging|work: if a user can run it, they can run it with sudo too
[15:37] <rose_76> hi all
[15:37] <rose_76> TP-Link TL-WN8200ND
[15:37] <rose_76> drive
[15:37] <rose_76> help
[15:37] <rose_76> ubuntu 13.04
[15:37] <FloodBot1> rose_76: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:38] <k1l> !ppa-purge | basiclas-
[15:38] <Frogging|work> ActionParsnip: No. It's in /opt/owfs/bin, so I had to add that to /etc/environment. But that doesn't work with sudo because sudo resets PATH to secure_path (which is in sudoers which I probably shouldn't mess around with)
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> rose_76: what wifi chip does it use
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> Frogging|work: could always add it (safer not to, as you say)
[15:39] <redtape|renegade> Is popeycam off-access at the moment or some`it ? :: http://popey.com/webcam/ ::
[15:39] <rose_76> ActionParsnip, http://www.tp-link.us/products/details/?categoryid=240&model=TL-WN8200ND
[15:39] <Frogging|work> ActionParsnip: Or should I just symlink the contents of /opt/owfs/bin to somewhere like /usr/local/bin or /usr/bin (or anywhere else that's already part of secure_path
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> Frogging|work: I use the symlink method, is it a GUI app?
[15:40] <Frogging|work> Nope
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> rose_76: doesnt tell us the chip
[15:40] <tyler_d> my expect script (called from bash) does not pass in the password --> http://pastebin.com/WbCPyEVL
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> rose_76: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network      do you see the wifi adapter?
[15:41] <rose_76> ActionParsnip, ok
[15:41] <jrib> tyler_d: why are you using expect with ssh?  Why not use password-less ssh keys?
[15:41] <tyler_d> jrib: I have multiples(over 1000) servers that don't have keys implimented
[15:41] <Frogging|work> ActionParsnip: Okay, that's what I'll do then. Thanks :)
[15:41] <Frogging|work> the new file manager is such a piece of crap
[15:42] <rantic> Frogging|work: :o
[15:42] <jrib> tyler_d: so implement keys?
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> Frogging|work: which one, there are lots
[15:42] <Frogging|work> ActionParsnip: It's called "Files". It's kind of a stripped-down version of Nautilus
[15:42] <basiclas-> ubottu: I would love to install ppa-purge I can't install/remove anything,
[15:42] <jrib> tyler_d: anyway, I don't know about your expect issue, but my advice is that you use keys instead
[15:43] <Frogging|work> The one included by default with Ubuntu 13.04
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> Frogging|work: ahh yes, i dont use it these days, too slow
[15:43] <tyler_d> jrib: I do not have the power to impliment keys as they are not mine...
[15:43] <xeon123> the content of the /tmp is deleted when the OS is rebooted?
[15:43] <jrib> tyler_d: you have the root password
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> xeon123: if its in tempfs then yes
[15:43] <rose_76> ActionParsnip,  capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix vpd bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
[15:43] <rose_76>        configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8169 driverversion=2.3LK-NAPI duplex=full firmware=rtl8168e-3_0.0.4 03/27/12 ip=192.168.1.111 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes port=MII speed=100Mbit/s
[15:43] <rose_76>        resources: irq:43 ioport:c000(size=256) memory:f2104000-f2104fff memory:f2100000-f2103fff
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> xeon123: you can check by running:  mount
[15:43] <rantic> xeon123: Usually.
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> rose_76: please use a pastebin
[15:44] <basiclas-> k1l: did you get the link?
[15:44] <rose_76> ActionParsnip, ok
[15:44] <jrib> tyler_d: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4780893/use-expect-in-bash-script-to-provide-password-to-ssh-command
[15:44] <sud0man> I have installed ubuntu-restricted-tools, thanks to ActionParsnip but now it gives me, Missing element: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder.
[15:44] <sud0man> how can I solve this particular situation? Am I missing something again?
[15:44] <Semper> blazemore, did you find anything on grabbing the temp for each core?
[15:45] <k1l> !appeals > sud0man
[15:45] <rose_76> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5884636/
[15:45] <rose_76> ActionParsnip, HELP
[15:46] <Semper> Did sud0man do something?
[15:46] <basiclas-> Whenever I try to install anything with apt-get, I see >  skype : Depends: skype-bin but it is not installable
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> rose_76: you only have a wired connection there, is it USB based?
[15:46] <jrib> basiclas-: output of « dpkg --print-foreign-architectures » ?
[15:46] <rose_76> ActionParsnip, YES
[15:46] <rose_76> ActionParsnip, lan
[15:47] <k1l> basiclas-: yes, remove at least the tor PPA that got no precise packages.
[15:47] <Semper> k1l, did I miss something with sud0man?
[15:47] <k1l> basiclas-: and i would remove the debian sources from the /etc/apt/sources.list too
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> rose_76: what is the output of:  lsusb
[15:48] <rose_76> ActionParsnip, ok
[15:48] <basiclas-> jrib: http://pastebin.com/q4mXp8qj
[15:48] <k1l> Semper: he was abusive and disturbing the last days and is now ban evading just because he needs help
[15:48] <jrib> basiclas-: what ubuntu version is this?
[15:48] <Semper> Fair enough.
[15:48] <Semper> Anyone know of anyway to get Ubuntu displaying each individual core temperature?
[15:49] <skrusty> hi, just installed ubuntu-desktop and i get the desktop lgin screen fine, but then it locks up, for about 2 minutes and then i get the screen but the graphics are really out, like there's a grid overlay on the screen or something - it's hard to explain
[15:49] <rose_76> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5884647/
[15:49] <skrusty> any ideas? :/
[15:49] <basiclas-> jrib: 12.04
[15:49] <Semper> skrusty, does it login but leave the login screen on the background?
[15:49] <Semper> but you can use applications?
[15:49] <k1l> basiclas-: can you show a "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" please?
[15:49] <skrusty> it looks like it
[15:49] <skrusty> it's hard to see
[15:49] <Semper> It might be
[15:49] <Semper> disabled desktop icons
[15:49] <skrusty> i can see "remote login" still
[15:49] <jrib> basiclas-: do you know anything about that error?  Pastebin /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch
[15:49] <Semper> that caused the login screen to stick on mine
[15:49] <Semper> make sure they're enabled
[15:50] <Semper> tis a bug that hasn't been dealt with yet
[15:50] <skrusty> how do i do that sorry? config change?
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> rose_76: 2357:0100   is teh ID of the wifi, use it to find guides online
[15:50] <Semper> if it is that
[15:50] <nommer> Why does pulseaudio periodically break when running certain windows applications concurrently with an mp3 file, but only sometimes, defying all logic?
[15:50] <basiclas-> k1l: i removed the sole source that had the full string 'debian' in it, do i remove any source beginning with deb or not?
[15:50] <Semper> erm one sec
[15:50] <nommer> Why does pulseaudio periodically break when running certain windows applications concurrently with an mp3 file, but only sometimes, defying all logic?
[15:50] <nommer> I am forced to stop the mp3
[15:50] <nommer> and restart the windows app
[15:50] <rose_76> ActionParsnip, no :(
[15:50] <k1l> basiclas-: can you show the file?
[15:51] <Semper> You can edit it using the unity tweak tool.
[15:51] <Semper> You still using unity?
[15:51] <nommer> Did you guys hear my question
[15:51] <skrusty> Semper: me?
[15:51] <nommer> Semper: thanks for volunteering your time for free, can i ask you a question about UBUNTU?
[15:51] <basiclas-> jrib: multiarch just returns 'foreign-architecture i386'
[15:52] <jrib> basiclas-: and my first question?
[15:52] <Semper> yeah skrusty
[15:52] <hoodoowoo> I've been setting up a new machine that has not played nice with Ubuntu.  I've booted and installed (via the -server iso as the only working route) to a workable setting, and have finally managed to get the proprietary drivers of nvidia working.  Yay, but by 2.5 days of work.
[15:52] <Semper> nommer, go for it
[15:52] <basiclas-> brb
[15:52] <hoodoowoo> However, in the ensuing apt-get remove and apt-get install storm, I seem to have removed unity.  That is, when I login through the unity-greeter interface, I'm presented with a blank desktop.  What package do I install to get it back?
[15:52] <skrusty> i wans't using any dekstop manager before
[15:52] <basiclas-> jrib: i know nothing about errors
[15:52] <Semper> hmm
[15:53] <skrusty> i just apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[15:53] <Semper> that will be unity skrusty
[15:53] <jrib> basiclas-: delete /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch
[15:53] <Semper> I think unity tweaker needs to be installed.
[15:53] <skrusty> ok
[15:53] <Semper> So fire up the app center
[15:53] <nommer> Why does pulseaudio periodically break when running certain windows applications concurrently with an mp3 file, but only sometimes, defying all logic?
[15:53] <skrusty> Semper: two mins (thanks by the way)
[15:53] <Semper> software center that is
[15:53] <nommer> Why does pulseaudio periodically break when running certain windows applications concurrently with an mp3 file, but only sometimes, defying all logic? @ semper
[15:53] <jrib> basiclas-: afterwards, pastebin contents of /var/lib/dpkg/arch
[15:53] <nommer> sometimes it works fine
[15:53] <Semper> what windows apps?
[15:53] <Semper> are you using WINE?
[15:53] <hoodoowoo> skrusty: you may be interested in this Wikipedia explanation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_(user_interface)
[15:53] <nommer> It doesnt matter the apps, its apps that have sound
[15:53] <nommer> Sometimes the windows apps sound will just break
[15:54] <Semper> windows as in microsoft?
[15:54] <Semper> or windows as in desktop applications?
[15:54] <basiclas-> k1l: http://pastebin.com/M22Wqay6
[15:54] <nommer> Yes i run some of their softwares on my UBUNTU
[15:54] <nommer> But periodically the sound in their applications will just break
[15:54] <nommer> defying all logic
[15:54] <Semper> Well nommer that is a question for WINE gurus I think.
[15:54] <nommer> I believe i am being harassed
[15:54] <Semper> It will depend on a lot of things.
[15:54] <basiclas-> jrib: that file did not exist
[15:54] <nommer> i think it depends on the government not leaving me alone
[15:55] <nonzj> hello, (kubuntu) i made a mistake and uninstalled some services which were enabling me to Sleep/Hibernate, now i don't have these buttons anymore; instead i sleep my computer by using the command: "dbus-send --system --print-reply     --dest="org.freedesktop.UPower"     /org/freedesktop/UPower     org.freedesktop.UPower.Suspend", but when i come back the screen is not locked; so, how can i restore the sleep/hibernate button, or how can
[15:55] <nommer> do you think thats possible?
[15:55] <jrib> basiclas-: what file?
[15:55] <Semper> Unlikely nommer
[15:55] <Semper> more likely that WINE isn't fully compatible with the windows progams and is having some issues.
[15:55] <nommer> Semper:  They hover a drone over my house every night, transmit dreams of joining the marine corps, or of them murdering my family, shock my entire body with microwave energy until sometimes i cant breathe, all because i said the wrong thing online
[15:55] <slartibartfast19> I'm trying to choose between the new MacBook Air (the 12 hour battery life/Haswell 1.7Ghz i7) and a MacBook Pro with a 2.9Ghz i7; I'll mainly be using Ubuntu under parallels; anybody know if the Air will cause any issues, with the new chip and slower Ghz?
[15:56] <nommer> Then harass me via microwave voices about my computer usage
[15:56] <Semper> I suggest asking people who know more about running your apps under wine.
[15:56] <nommer> So i think i should ask gov employees
[15:56] <nommer> Instead of wine dev
[15:56] <nommer> dont u
[15:56] <rantic> huh
[15:56] <Semper> In which case nommer, I would suggest seeing a mental health specialist.
[15:56] <k1l> basiclas-: commenting with # is fine. but you can activate that partner repo again
[15:56] <jrib> !ot | nommer
[15:56] <nommer> I have semper, he says im fine
[15:56] <nommer> slightly depressed
[15:56] <ikonia> nommer: enough with this nonsense please
[15:56] <nommer> Ok
[15:56] <nommer> sorry about the Nonsense
[15:56] <ikonia> nommer: we support ubuntu here - keep to that topic please.
[15:56] <nommer> ok
[15:56] <Semper> Well, unless it is related to Ubuntu stum!
[15:56] <FloodBot1> nommer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:57] <nommer> Ok, is there a ubuntu iso without selinux?
[15:57] <nommer> pre installed?
[15:57] <k1l> yep
[15:57] <ikonia> nommer: ubuntu doesn't use selinux by defualt
[15:57] <ikonia> default even
[15:57] <nommer> I know it doesnt use it
[15:57] <nommer> But its on there
[15:57] <nommer> why?
[15:57] <ikonia> nommer: I don't believe it's installed by default
[15:57] <Semper> Try visiting  wineHQ and checking your apps for issues.
[15:57] <nommer> Its not installed then why are the files present
[15:57] <nommer> for selinux
[15:57] <nommer> ?
[15:57] <ikonia> it's in the repos but I don't think it's part of the default
[15:57] <ikonia> nommer: which files ?
[15:57] <ikonia> (it maybe installed by default)
[15:57] <nommer> I have selinux folders
[15:57] <nommer> in my default installs
[15:57] <jrib> nommer: be specific.
[15:58] <nommer> That is prettys epcific
[15:58] <nommer> specific*
[15:58] <jrib> nommer: give a full path...
[15:58] <k1l> !enter > nommer
[15:58] <nommer> sure
[15:58] <ikonia> !info selinux
[15:58] <Semper> which ISO, which installer what path.
[15:58] <ikonia> it's in universe
[15:58] <ikonia> I doubt that's a default install
[15:58] <nommer> it is
[15:58] <Semper> ikonia, is it part of apparmour?
[15:58] <ikonia> Semper: no
[15:58] <Semper> in which case I have no idea how it got on there.
[15:58] <nommer> My defualt install has selinux folders.  One moment plase
[15:59] <nommer> it was default in /etc/selinux
[15:59] <nommer> right therei n /etc/selinux
[15:59] <ikonia> nommer: what files are there ?
[15:59] <nommer> semanage.conf
[15:59] <nommer> if i looked harder im sure id find the selinux.so files
[15:59] <nommer> so whats the deal
[16:00] <nommer> ?
[16:00] <nommer> why is there a selinux folder in /etc/selinux and a semanage.conf file if its default not installed
[16:00] <nommer> ?
[16:01] <k1l> nommer: could you please tone it dont to a technical and not emotional level?
[16:01] <nommer> Emotional?
[16:01] <nommer> I'm being highly technical here
[16:01] <ikonia> nommer: I don't believe it's default, I'm just checking, hold on please.
[16:01] <nommer> Could i get an answer
[16:01] <nommer> sure
[16:01] <ikonia> nommer: it's a universe package, so I'd be surprised if it was part of the default instlal
[16:01] <k1l> nommer: you are going mad because its from the NSA. thats it.
[16:01] <nommer> No, I'm mad because its present on my hard drive
[16:01] <nommer> And i was told it wasn't going to be in the install
[16:01] <Johnny_Linux> we'll considering all the nsa has done, id be concerned too
[16:02] <nommer> Thank you johnny
[16:02] <jrib> nommer, k1l, ikonia: passwd seems to depend on libsemanage1.  I'm not familiar with it but it seems to just be able to manage selinux; it's not selinux itself
[16:02] <nommer> Jrib
[16:02] <nommer> If you delete the selinux.so
[16:02] <nommer> even though its not present
[16:02] <nommer> supposeldy
[16:02] <nommer> guess swhat
[16:02] <FloodBot1> nommer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:02] <nommer> you cant login
[16:02] <ikonia> nommer: stop now please.
[16:02] <jrib> nommer: what on earth are you talking about?  And stop with the enter key please
[16:02] <k1l> !enter | nommer
[16:02] <kunji> On my MSI gx60 Ubuntu seems to only boot every other time.  The other times it freezes on the purple loading screen (during plymouth?).  Powering off via the power button and back on again lets it boot reliably on the second try.  I haven't noticed anything suspicious in the logs, but I haven't busted out a fine toothed comb or anything yet.  If anyone has a good lead on where I should start looking into this it would be helpful. Could eve
[16:03] <ikonia> jrib: yeah, looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features#SELinux
[16:03] <nommer> Im saying even though selinux is not installed , you can't log into ubuntu without the files being present, the login script is dependent upon SELINUX
[16:03] <blazemore> nommer: I think you're being deliberately confrontational. Do you have an actual question, that has an answer which will satisfy you?
[16:03] <nommer> Am i wrong?
[16:03] <nommer> That is my question blazemore
[16:03] <ikonia> nommer: yes, you are very wrong
[16:03] <nommer> Ok how?
[16:03] <jrib> nommer: you're being vague again, saying "the files".
[16:03] <blazemore> nommer: Yes you are wrong, that is the answer :)
[16:03] <ikonia> nommer: what file did you delete
[16:03] <nommer> Ok i deleted the file selinux.so.1
[16:03] <ikonia> nommer: where is that
[16:03] <nommer> Without se linux being installed
[16:03] <jrib> nommer: full path.
[16:03] <nommer> And then
[16:03] <nommer> i couldnt log into my hd
[16:03] <blazemore> !enter | nommer
[16:04] <jrib> nommer: if you don't stop pressing enter, we're just going to remove you from the channel.
[16:04] <jrib> basiclas-: what file did not exist?
[16:04] <jrib> libselinux1 seems to be installed too but that seems to just provide some sort of api for selinux apps
[16:05] <basiclas-> jrib: /var/lib/dpkg/arch
[16:05] <Johnny_Linux> he probably wanted to know is se linux was installed and or activated
[16:05] <k1l> iirc ubuntu is preparated to be used with selinux. but its not installed or working. same for debian
[16:05] <Johnny_Linux> nice
[16:05] <ikonia> k1l: I'm just checking now, I'll confirm it in a few minutes
[16:05] <jrib> basiclas-: « dpkg --version; uname -a; lsb_release -a » on a pastebin please
[16:06] <Johnny_Linux> i feel better on that note, and no, i dont trust nsa, look at what they did to windows.
[16:06] <jrib> k1l: right, that seems to be the case
[16:06] <basiclas-> jrib: http://pastebin.com/JpQyAkai
[16:06] <k1l> so other programs maybe need selinux for special actions (like passwd and apparmor or ufw) and that for there are some files to prepare for that case. but you still need to install selinux to make that go active
[16:07] <jrib> basiclas-: I told you to delete /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch
[16:07] <nommer> WHy was i kicked out?
[16:07] <jrib> nommer: because you didn't stop abusing the enter key
[16:07] <nommer> I was asking about why SELINUX is required to log into ubuntu even if its not installed, if you delete the selinux which is not installed supposedly you cannot log in.
[16:07] <nommer> Why is this?
[16:08] <jrib> nommer: I will no longer comment on your questions until you stop being vague
[16:08] <blazemore> nommer: The next thing you say better be the full path of the file you deleted
[16:08] <ikonia> nommer: as I said, I don't believe that is the case, if you hold on I'll run a test case with you
[16:08] <SteveBell1> absolute noob question. don't hit me… when in xbmc it starts in fullscreen. what's the key command to toggle it to window view?
[16:08] <k1l> nommer: i kicked you because you didnt stop to flood the channel with your enter
[16:08] <k1l> !enter > noom
[16:08] <Johnny_Linux> gotchya k1l , i hope you appreciate the initial concern, we out her like ubuntu for its user ability and general security.
[16:08] <blazemore> SteveBell1: backslash \
[16:08] <k1l> !enter > nommer
[16:08] <basiclas-> jrib: ok done
[16:09] <jrib> basiclas-: output of « dpkg --print-foreign-architectures » ?
[16:09] <lolcat> Is there an easy way to migrate my ubuntu from my ssd to my harddrive that allready contains file?
[16:09] <blazemore> SteveBell1: It took me ages to find that myself, and I found it by accident one day
[16:09] <k1l> Johnny_Linux: there is no need to go mad just because the NSA is mentioned anywhere. stick to the facts and give the people some time to exxplain
[16:09] <nommer> I'm not going to search for the selinux.so file for you -- it is the file that the login script is dependent upon.  You already know this.
[16:09] <blazemore> lolcat: You could just shrink the partition on the hard-drive, and install Ubuntu into the free space
[16:09] <nommer> Im asking why its required for the login script
[16:09] <ikonia> nommer: you deleted the file
[16:09] <ikonia> nommer: which file did you delete
[16:09] <nommer> selinux.so.1
[16:09] <ikonia> nommer: I'm about to test it
[16:09] <ikonia> nommer: where is that file
[16:10] <basiclas-> jrib: don't know if you're interested in this but, everytime i try to install/remove/upgrade i get skype : Depends: skype-bin but it is not installable
[16:10] <nommer> I don't know.
[16:10] <Johnny_Linux> i wasnt going mad, but, i do know how and what the nsa is about, but, again, thanks for the reply.
[16:10] <jrib> basiclas-: yep, that's what we are about to fix
[16:10] <blazemore> lolcat: You wouldn't be "migrating" it though
[16:10] <SteveBell1> blazemore: backslash sign is on the key next to the number zero at the top row. so shift ctrl that key?!?
[16:10] <lolcat> blazemore: Why mess with partitions? Can't I just copy the system files, install grub and then reboot?
[16:10] <blazemore> SteveBell1: oh...
[16:10] <SteveBell1> netbook...
[16:10] <blazemore> SteveBell1: I don't know, on a UK keyboard it's just its own key without any modifiers
[16:10] <jimmyjam> can you guys help me get TF2 running on my new desktop? Getting major image glitches when i try to play, everything freezes, then loads really slowly. HD 7750, FX4100. Thank you
[16:10] <SteveBell1> ah man. this is hard stuff :P
[16:11] <cipherboy> nommer, ikonia, find/grep reports it is in /lib/arch-linux-gnu/libselinux.so.1
[16:11] <basiclas-> jrib: ok so i ran dpkg --print-foreign-architectures , no output, is that ok?
[16:11] <blazemore> lolcat: In my experience, the effort required moving Ubuntu from one hard drive / computer to another is far more than just doing a fresh installation and spending a little bit of time setting it back up
[16:11] <nommer> yes cipherboy
[16:11] <nommer> my question now is
[16:11] <nommer> how can i log into my ubuntu after deleting it
[16:11] <jrib> basiclas-: that's fine.  Now we're going to enable multiarch with i386 for you.  You're on amd64, correct?
[16:12] <cipherboy> nommer, ikonia, also interesting to note: lsof | grep 'selinux.so.1'...look at how many processes use it
[16:12] <nommer> are there alternative login scripts?
[16:12] <ikonia> nommer: stop
[16:12] <basiclas-> jrib: derrrr, how do i check?
[16:12] <ikonia> nommer: I'm doing the user test now
[16:12] <lolcat> blazemore: how is cp -ax * /media/something more work than a reinstall?
[16:12] <nommer> Ikonia im asking cipherboy a question is that ok with you sir/
[16:12] <ikonia> nommer: you deleted a file - which file did you delete and from which directory
[16:12] <blazemore> lolcat: Wait, what exactly do you want to do?
[16:12] <ikonia> nommer: no - it's not as you're just repeating the same thing over and over
[16:12] <nommer> Im talking to cipherboy
[16:12] <nommer> Cipherboy -
[16:12] <jrib> basiclas-: uname -a actually tells us, so I just checked and you are indeed on amd64.  Now let's tell dpkg to also let you install i386 packages.  Issue the command: « dpkg --add-architecture i386 »
[16:12] <nommer> Is there a way to remove selinux.so and replace the login script dependent on it
[16:12] <basiclas-> jrib: 64 bit yes, amd or not i dont remember
[16:13] <blazemore> lolcat: You currently have a PC with two hard drives: an SSD and a hard drive. Ubuntu is installed on the SSD, and there is one partition on the other drive with data on it?
[16:13] <nommer> So i can use my ubuntu?
[16:13] <jrib> blazemore: amd64 is just the name of the architecture
[16:13] <lolcat> blazemore: Yes, I think the SSD is failing so I want to trim it and run badblocks
[16:13] <blazemore> lolcat: You want it to end up such that Ubuntu is installed on the hard drive along with your data, and the SSD is empty
[16:13] <lolcat> blazemore: yes
[16:13] <blazemore> lolcat: You can do both of those without harming your data, but do a backup first
[16:13] <ikonia> nommer: I'll tell you once I've done the test
[16:13] <lolcat> so I can TRIM the SSD and then run badblocks
[16:13] <basiclas-> jrib: ok done
[16:13] <ikonia> nommer: where are you removing the file from
[16:13] <lolcat> blazemore: Do share why I can't
[16:14] <blazemore> lolcat: Yes if your SSD supports TRIM. The Arch Wiki is a good resource
[16:14] <k1l> nommer: your question was explained while you were kicked because of flooding with your enter key
[16:14] <jrib> basiclas-: now run « sudo apt-get update »
[16:14] <blazemore> I said you *can* do both of those, lolcat :)
[16:14] <k1l> !irclogs | nommer
[16:14] <nommer> im removing the NSA SELINUX.SO.1 file from my hard drive and when i do it then i can't log into ubuntu but ubuntu says its not installed
[16:14] <blazemore> nommer: Why are you avoiding the question "Where is selinux.so.1 located?"
[16:14] <ikonia> nommer: this is the file time I'll ask you before I ban you
[16:14] <basiclas-> jrib: ok done
[16:15] <k1l> Johnny_Linux: see who is again going mad?
[16:15] <ikonia> nommer: where is the file you are deleting located
[16:15] <Semper> /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libselinux.so.1
[16:15] <Semper> ^
[16:15] <nommer> yes
[16:15] <ikonia> Semper: I'm not aksing you
[16:15] <jrib> basiclas-: output of « apt-cache policy skype{,-bin} » ?
[16:15] <Johnny_Linux> lol, dont point the finger at me
[16:15] <Semper> That is using a great great deal of processes
[16:15] <blazemore> What version of Ubuntu are you using, nommer ?
[16:15] <ikonia> nommer: where is the file you are deleting located
[16:15] <SteveBell1> no one knows how to toggle fullscreen  / window mode?
[16:16] <skrusty> Semper: removing the stock nvidia drivers and installing nvidia's own seems to have fixed it
[16:16] <nommer> ikonia : /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libselinux.so.1
[16:16] <k1l> nommer: its not activated nor installed. but other programs are prepared to work with selinux. so there are some files on your system. but again its not installed and not activated
[16:16] <ikonia> nommer: and one final question, can you show me the output of "uname -a" please
[16:16] <Semper> Weird skrusty.
[16:16] <basiclas-> jrib: http://pastebin.com/GL4LBZYM
[16:16] <skrusty> yeah :/
[16:16] <Semper> Nice you got a fix though.
[16:16] <k1l> nommer: so stop going mad on reading selinux is from NSA
[16:16] <nommer> k1l and ikonia:  That doesnt make sense if i can't log into ubuntu after deleting it
[16:16] <blazemore> SteveBell1: I just googled "XBMC keyboard shortcuts" and clicked this. I'm sorry Google isn't working for you :( but here you go http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Keyboard
[16:16] <ikonia> nommer: and one final question, can you show me the output of "uname -a" please
[16:16] <nommer> It obviously is installed and rquired
[16:16] <skrusty> yeah, just thought i'd let ya know, cheers anyway! :)
[16:16] <nommer> required*
[16:16] <nommer> No, I don't trust you now.
[16:16] <ikonia> nommer: I'm about to test it for you - answer the questions
[16:16] <nommer> you lied to me.
[16:16] <k1l> nommer: obviously you are not listening
[16:16] <blazemore> lol nommer
[16:17] <SteveBell1> blazemore: found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts but that doesn't mention fullscreen
[16:17] <k1l> for the logs: again: some other programs are prepared for using selinux and need those files.
[16:17] <blazemore> SteveBell1: It's an XBMC keyboard shortcut, not Ubuntu
[16:17] <kunji> Well, I figured it was a longshot, I'm heading out, but if anyone thinks of anything about booting every other time, I'll be checking the logs tonight so just putting it here will be fine even though I'll be gone a while.
[16:17] <jrib> blazemore: alright, you should be able to get apt-get to install skype-bin now
[16:17] <blazemore> Not me jrib
[16:18] <jrib> basiclas-: alright, you should be able to get apt-get to install skype-bin now (sorry blazemore )
[16:18] <Semper> What is libselinux.so.1 ?
[16:18] <jrib> !info libselinux1
[16:18] <Semper> So it is a required package, what does it do?
[16:19] <Semper> Since it has its fingers in every process.
[16:19] <Pici> Semper: No one said that.
[16:19] <Jagst3r15> How do you install ruby on ubuntu
[16:19] <Johnny_Linux> Jagst3r15,  synaptics
[16:19] <basiclas-> jrib: http://pastebin.com/u4qJNL5i
[16:19] <basiclas-> thats the error i recieved
[16:20] <Semper> In component main, is required.
[16:20] <jrib> basiclas-: what command caused this and what was the full output?
[16:20] <blazemore> Semper: It's the SeLinux libraries, basically provides an interface to selinux
[16:20] <martianlobster> how to I open the software center ?
[16:20] <Semper> What's that mean then Pici
[16:20] <blazemore> Semper: But selinux isn't installed in Ubuntu
[16:20] <k1l> Semper: other programs are prepared to work with selinux. they error if that files are deleted. that doesnt mean selinux is installed or activated
[16:20] <Semper> Just wondering why is has fingers in many pies is all.
[16:20] <basiclas-> jrib: http://pastebin.com/scpKh4rj
[16:21] <Pici> Semper: pam is configured to use selinux if it exists, but it uses the shared libraries to determine that. So if you remove them, like nommer did, login will fail.
[16:21] <blazemore> martianlobster: Click the Ubuntu button in the top left corner, search for "software" and you should see the software centre icon come up in the search results
[16:21] <ikonia> Semper: what fingers does it have it's pies in
[16:21] <basiclas-> everything's in there :)
[16:21] <martianlobster> blazemore: thanks!
[16:21] <k1l> Semper: that is the concept of selinux or other security plans
[16:21] <Semper> lsof | grep 'selinux.so.1'
[16:21] <k1l> Semper: just think of what a firewall get the fingers on
[16:21] <ikonia> Semper: that's just open files
[16:21] <jrib> basiclas-: you have no idea why this comes up?  Did you do anything before to try to fix your skype issues?
[16:21] <blazemore> Off home now, goodbye all, and good luck with your problems
[16:22] <greenie> have a good one
[16:22] <basiclas-> jrib: i dont have skype issues per se. It works fine, I just cant install remove or upgrade anything else. Its always that skype error message about skype-bin
[16:22] <jrib> basiclas-: in the meantime, pastebin « apt-cache policy libglib2.0-0 »
[16:24] <mregg> Hi - I'm trying to move from MSAccess to MySQL. Is there a recommended form editor for MySQL (apart from Base)?
[16:24] <basiclas-> jrib: http://pastebin.com/MzhXc2Uv
[16:25] <Semper> awful lots got that file open then
[16:26] <jrib> basiclas-: is this an upgrade from 11.10?
[16:27] <basiclas-> jrib: I recieved this computer about 1.5 months ago, it had preinstalled linux 12.04 (it's a zareason)
[16:28] <jrib> basiclas-: I see.  It's strange because the multiarch setup changed in 12.04 and that file you had from before was a remnant from pre-12.04 days
[16:28] <basiclas-> jrib: it was 'brand new' from them
[16:29] <jrib> basiclas-: what's output of « apt-cache policy dpkg ».  Also, here is a relevant bug I haven't finished reading through https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/1015329
[16:29] <basiclas-> i saw some dates in a file somewhere dating back from last summer, so i guess it's been in storage for a while :)
[16:29] <jrib> basiclas-: what's in /var/lib/dpkg/arch?
[16:30] <Semper> ikonia, any reason why so many processes have that file open?
[16:30] <ikonia> it's checked as part of pam
[16:30] <ikonia> that seems to be the core thing
[16:31] <basiclas-> jrib: http://tny.cz/32e9e473
[16:32] <jrib> basiclas-: erm, right this dpkg isn't even from precise repositories it seems
[16:32] <Semper> strange
[16:32] <basiclas-> in /arch, amd64
[16:32] <jrib> basiclas-: did you have debian repositories enabled?
[16:32] <Semper> its still an se library that shouldnt be there surely?
[16:32] <basiclas-> i386
[16:32] <basiclas-> sorry so that was in /arch amd64
[16:32] <basiclas-> i386
[16:32] <basiclas-> teh fuck :D they were both in arch, ,
[16:33] <basiclas-> jrib: i will check
[16:33] <IdleOne> basiclas-: Please don't swear in here
[16:33] <jrib> basiclas-: that dpkg version is exactly what's in debian wheezy currently
[16:34] <basiclas-> IdleOne: ok sorry
[16:34] <k1l> jrib: he had some debian sid sources active
[16:34] <ironhalik> Is there a command line version of nautilus 'Extract here'? I mean, universal extracting command that would take care of bz2, gunzips etc
[16:35] <basiclas-> jrib: with regards to checking debian sources, im not sure how to read the source lists
[16:35] <jrib> !info unp | ironhalik
[16:35] <basiclas-> hmm
[16:36] <jrib> basiclas-: if you have random packages (including dpkg) now coming from debian repositories, I would suggest just reinstalling
[16:36] <Vec_> I'm having some trouble, my server has apparantly been trying to send mails every minute since some time.. I have nullmailer installed for the sole reason of mailing me logwatch logs, which works.. I'm not sure what my server is trying to send? Please take a look.. http://pastebin.com/gZrUJsL1
[16:36] <ironhalik> thanks a lot jrib
[16:36] <ironhalik> saved me all those -xvzf's ;>
[16:36] <jrib> ironhalik: you can omit "z" with tar now (it's smart) :D
[16:37] <ironhalik> jrib: "smart" ;>
[16:37] <ironhalik> not as smart as unp, it seems ;>
[16:37] <daftykins> Vec_: the log suggests the subdomain box.vecbox.com does not exist
[16:37] <tony98> ciao
[16:37] <ikonia> Vec_: I suspect you are being hit with scatter back spam
[16:38] <ikonia> it looks like you've got a messed up mail server config and have configured it to relay so you have a route out and getting scatter back spam
[16:38] <tony98> !list
[16:38] <Vec_> daftykins: Sure, but that means that some program is trying to send mail with that configuration -- im not sure where to start in figuring that out.
[16:38] <daftykins> ah ok
[16:39] <Vec_> ikonia: As far as me messed up the mailconfig that might be the case. However, logwatch and fail2ban sends me mails with no problem.
[16:39] <ikonia> Vec_: errr that means nothing
[16:39] <ikonia> Vec_: it looks like it's scatter back spam
[16:39] <basiclas-> haha ok
[16:39] <ikonia> your ISP will not welcome them geting blacklisted
[16:40] <mm12> hi everyone
[16:40] <Vec_> ikonia: Im not sure what you mean exactly :x
[16:40] <X-Sleepy-X> mm12: hi
[16:40] <basiclas-> i guess so,
[16:40] <basiclas-> well thanks for trying :)
[16:41] <ikonia> Vec_: I send a mail to fake@yourdomain.com with a reply to address of james@mydomain.com - fake@yourdomain.com doesn't exist, so the mail server bounces it to james@mydomain.com - thus spamming james through your mail server
[16:41] <mm12> hi iam trying to set the fan speed for my gigabyte 7970..and its giving me response.
[16:41] <mm12> Please run 'aticonfig --initial' first or modify your configuration file manually and run aticonfig again.
[16:41] <ikonia> Vec_: I suspect you are running null mailer as root ?
[16:41] <mm12> Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:41] <mm12> Saving back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.original-0
[16:41] <mm12> aticonfig: Writing to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' failed. Permission denied.
[16:42] <X-Sleepy-X> mm12: perhaps you can run the command with sudo
[16:42] <basiclas-> jrib: do you suggest i use the 12.04 disk provided by zareason or just a clean one from ubuntu?
[16:42] <mm12> sudo what u mean
[16:42] <X-Sleepy-X> mm12: put sudo in front of the command
[16:42] <mm12> sudo aticonfig --initial
[16:43] <X-Sleepy-X> yea
[16:43] <jrib> basiclas-: yeah, you can checksum the disc to make sure it's ok and then use it.  Or if you want something more recent (but not LTS), you can use 13.04
[16:43] <Vec_> ikonia: Oh. i c. But how is that a likely scenario? I dont really understand. This just seems like i've missconfigured some package on my server to send mails from "root@box.vecbox.com" (which does not exsist) -- vecbox.com however, does.
[16:43] <mm12> thanks X-Sleepy-X
[16:43] <ikonia> Vec_: what do you mean how is that likely, it's a well known spam tactic
[16:43] <X-Sleepy-X> mm12: yw :)
[16:45] <nottura> I got a new Nvidia card. a gtx460. I have the gtx 260 in the machine already. would I reinstall the drivers, or update the configuration files for the new card ?
[16:45] <daftykins> neither
[16:45] <daftykins> just turn off, swap, boot
[16:45] <ikonia> Vec_:  if you believe it's a process on your machine, check the crontab, clear the mail queue, shutdown processes and find the one sending mail
[16:45] <nottura> it does work, but i experienced some obvious issues. so i am trying to troubleshoot before i do anything
[16:45] <Vec_> ikonia: I've installed nullmailer yes, if it runs as root or not i have no clue. Im pretty new at this.
[16:46] <daftykins> nottura: what happened?
[16:46] <nottura> hmm, ok. card must be somehow damaged. froze in game at a very high fps a couple times. MB seemed hot. and on a couple of reboots, it sad soft error CPU core 3 not responding
[16:47] <nottura> i am soret of scared to stick it back in and try to get to the bottom of it
[16:48] <Vec_> ikonia: Im pretty certain its a process on my system trying to send a mail.. my root crontab has MAILTO="", my fail2ban works with mail, my logwatch works with mail. I have rsnapshot installed, but i'm not sure if that program wants to send mail by default
[16:48] <nottura> gtx470 supposedly runs hot. maybe i pushed it to hard
[16:48] <nottura> too*
[16:48] <Eagleman> Is there a way to setup ubuntu as an "tor" gateway, so if i set my default route to that machine, all data will be "anonimized"
[16:49] <Semper> Eagleman, socks proxy
[16:49] <Semper> probably
[16:49] <paolo65> !list
[16:50] <daftykins> Eagleman: tor isn't actually that secure
[16:50] <greenie> what's secure these days..
[16:50] <Eagleman> What do you suggest then
[16:50] <Semper> daftykins, talking about the fact tor is saturated with NSA nodes?
[16:51] <ikonia> Vec_: why are you sure it's a program on your machine ?
[16:51] <greenie> i would suggest pulling the ethernet cable and go live in the woods with the wolves :)
[16:51] <Eagleman> lol
[16:52] <Vec_> ikonia: It just makes sense.. Look at the log; something on my machine tries to send mails with a wrong address which is a default one "root@host.domain.com"
[16:53] <ikonia> Vec_: sorry you're not applying logic
[16:53] <daftykins> Semper: no, that endpoints can sniff egressing data
[16:53] <ikonia> Vec_: does this happen at regular intervals ?
[16:53] <Vec_> ikonia: I've probably derped and not configured it to be root@vecbox.com"
[16:53] <jiffe98> is there a good way to do something like an 'apt-get -y upgrade' that would answer yes to the initial question asking if I want to proceed but no the questions such as configuration file changes?
[16:53] <ikonia> Vec_: is vecbox.com your domain
[16:53] <Semper> daftykins, ah
[16:53] <Semper> well only if you don't use SSL
[16:53] <Vec_> ikonia: :/ Every minute, i just went into /var/spool/nullmailer/queue and deleted the 2 messages that were there (since 9.july) (they were logwatch logs...)
[16:53] <Vec_> ikonia: vecbox.com is mine yessir
[16:53] <Semper> I thought you were talking about being identified if you acted anonymously
[16:53] <ikonia> Vec_: ahhh ok,
[16:54] <kusu> hi
[16:54] <Semper> i.e. not sending personally identifying material
[16:54] <kusu> how do u dual boot ubuntu with win xp?
[16:54] <ikonia> Vec_: what's in the content of the messages, does it giveyou a clue ?
[16:54] <Vec_> ikonia: Please bear with me, im so confused with linux and explaining this stuff still that i leave out key information..
[16:54] <Semper> kusu, google wubi
[16:54] <Semper> it will make it really easy for you to try it
[16:54] <kusu> wubi???
[16:54] <Semper> yes
[16:54] <Semper> WUBI
[16:54] <greenie> with wubi you can install linux within windows
[16:54] <greenie> kinda
[16:55] <jimmyjam> can you guys help me get TF2 running on my new desktop? Getting major image glitches when i try to play, everything freezes, then loads really slowly. HD 7750, FX4100. Thank you
[16:55] <Semper> greenie, not kinda
[16:55] <Semper> you can
[16:55] <Vec_> ikonia: tbh, since it was 9july it probably tried sending them before i got the configuration done OR SOMETHING (tm) and then been stuck spamming those mails ever since.. I deleted them from the spool now without reading (it was from logwatch@vecbox.com so its just log summarys)
[16:55] <ikonia> Vec_: is there not more mails being created ?
[16:56] <OerHeks> kusa after installation ubuntu, hold shift @ boot to select win xp or ubuntu
[16:56] <kusu> do i select partitions manually to install ubuntu or do i delete win xp partitions if i wanna dual boot ubuntu with win xp?
[16:56] <Vec_> ikonia: Checking now, btw whats the "move to bottom of page"-command in less?
[16:56] <greenie> kusu: with wubi you can circumvent that
[16:56] <ikonia> Vec_: there isn't one that I'm aware of
[16:56] <greenie> it just stores all the linux data into sort of an image file
[16:56] <greenie> on your ntfs partition
[16:57] <saiarcot895> Vec_: besides the end key
[16:57] <OerHeks> kusa, you get an option to install side by side, and to decrease a partition to make space
[16:57] <Vec_> ikonia: Ok. I checked the logs now, and 18:51 was the last error trying to send mail. Ill wait a few more minutes and check again
[16:57] <ikonia> Vec_: ok, I'm stepping away from my desk for a few minutes
[16:57] <Jagst3r15> how would I run this script sirs? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5713887
[16:58] <Jagst3r15> I have the file on my desktop
[16:58] <Vec_> saiarcot895: end and home does not work in less (im trying it as we speak)
[16:58] <jimmyjam> anyone know how to install drivers for my HD 7750?
[16:58] <Jagst3r15> sh compass-app-shortcut-creator.sh does not work
[16:59] <shahan> I have upgrade with "sudo apt-get upgrade" from the Main Server as source. but it cannt fetch 864KB of data and for this all those of 233MB data are not installing. what can I do now? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5884852/
[17:00] <shahan> its ubuntu 12.04 32bit
[17:00] <shahan> I have upgrade with "sudo apt-get upgrade" from the Main Server as source. but it cannt fetch 864KB of data and for this all those of 233MB data are not installing. what can I do now? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5884852/
[17:00] <wiredmind> Jagst3r15: tried chmod +x compass-app-shourtcut-creator.sh && ./compass-app-shortcut-creator.sh
[17:00] <greenie> shahan: did you run apt-get update?
[17:00] <euxneks> shahan, try switching mirrors
[17:01] <shahan> ya I treid
[17:01] <greenie> then what eux said
[17:01] <shahan> tried euxneks
[17:01] <Jagst3r15> wiredmind it says no such file or directory
[17:01] <wiredmind> what does pwd say?
[17:02] <Jagst3r15> oh
[17:02] <kusu> do i select partitions manually to dual boot ubuntu with win xp?
[17:02] <Jagst3r15> you spelled shortcut wrong it works now ;)
[17:02] <wiredmind> Jagst3r15: good
[17:02] <shahan> any idea to install all those downlooaded stuff?
[17:03] <saiarcot895> shahan: switch to the main Ubuntu mirror, run "sudo apt-get update", and then try installing it
[17:03] <euxneks> shahan, you can install local packages with dpkg install but try the ubuntu mirror: http://askubuntu.com/questions/104695/how-do-i-change-mirrors-in-ubuntu-server-from-regional-to-main
[17:03] <jimmyjam> anyone know how to install drivers for my HD 7750?
[17:03] <Jagst3r15> it works :)
[17:03] <euxneks> shahan, what saiarcot895 said
[17:03] <Jagst3r15> thanks!
[17:03] <shahan> euxneks: I tried all those staff.
[17:03] <saiarcot895> !ati | jimmyjam
[17:03] <SirRock> Can someone help me out installing a program?
[17:04] <jimmyjam> cheers
[17:04] <basiclas-> jrib: what was the last version before the amazon ads integration?
[17:04] <SirRock> I just switched to Ubuntu and I don't know exactly how to work the terminal
[17:05] <k1l> SirRock: just describe your issue
[17:05] <shahan> SirRock: which version of ubuntu you are using now?
[17:05] <SirRock> I installed a program called  "protege" and the installer ran, but now I can't find the program.
[17:06] <SirRock> I see the folder and a bunch of files for it, but i click on the script and it doesn't work
[17:06] <SirRock> 13.04
[17:06] <SirRock> I think
[17:06] <shahan> SirRock: go to terminal and type protege
[17:06] <SirRock> says command not found
[17:07] <saiarcot895> SirRock: how did you install it?
[17:07] <SirRock> http://protege.stanford.edu/download/protege/4.0/installanywhere/
[17:07] <SirRock> I went to linux instructions and typed in sh ./install_protege_4.0.2.bin
[17:07] <shahan> SirRock: have you install it by Ubuntu Software Center?
[17:08] <SirRock> Nah, I'll go see if its in there
[17:08] <saiarcot895> SirRock: it's not in the Software Center
[17:08] <k1l> SirRock: did you load anything from the webpage or did you use the programs that ubuntu ships?
[17:08] <saiarcot895> SirRock: did you follow the instructions on the page?
[17:09] <euxneks> shahan, have you tried sudo apt-get clean
[17:09] <SirRock> I followed the instructions on the page. I installed some program that lets me open the terminal in that folder with a right click, but besdies that nothing else
[17:09] <Vec_> ikonia: The trying to send mail outward with wrong sender address seized now that i removed 2 mails from the nullmailer's spool. It was hammering every minute, and now its been quiet for a good 10 minutes so i assume its all well now.
[17:09] <OerHeks> SirRock, that is an old version see > http://protege.stanford.edu/download/protege/4.3/installanywhere/Web_Installers/
[17:09] <shahan> euxneks: no
[17:09] <euxneks> shahan, that might help?
[17:10] <SirRock> OOOO
[17:10] <shahan> euxneks: okey. let me chk
[17:10] <euxneks> if that doesn't work then maybe try sudo apt-get update --fix-missing
[17:10] <euxneks> shahan, though I think you've probably already tried that eh? :)
[17:10] <saiarcot895> SirRock: at any rate, after you download it, in the terminal, type in "sh ./install_protege_4.3.bin" (without the quotes)
[17:11] <SirRock> I'm downloading that now. but I see the scripts for protege, but every time i click on them it just opens up a text editor
[17:11] <shahan> euxneks: no. I didnt tried it before.
[17:11] <shahan> euxneks: what will it do my systme?
[17:11] <saiarcot895> SirRock: try opening up the Dash (start menu key or the Ubuntu icon at the top left corner) and typing in Protege
[17:11] <euxneks> shahan, it might fix it, I doubt it would cause any problems
[17:12] <SirRock> I tried that and only the folder and file named protege pop up
[17:13] <samba35> how do i access ubuntu  server from another ubuntu server over Internet with gui
[17:13] <OerHeks> SirRock, if you installed correct, http://localhost:8080/webprotege/ >>>  http://protegewiki.stanford.edu/wiki/WebProtegeAdminGuide
[17:13] <jaenie> i dont think I'm running a firewall, but i cannot connect to the mysql server on my desktop.  I started up ufw and allowed 3306/tcp but i still cannot make a simple connection (like $ telnet host 3306)
[17:13] <jaenie> is there some default firewall running?
[17:13] <jrib> !vnc | samba35
[17:14] <SirRock> LIke, I found the file. It says it's a shell script "(application/x-shellscript)" but it won't run, is there a program i'm supposed to open it with?
[17:14] <samba35> thanks
[17:15] <Semper> Anyone got any idea how to monitor the temperature of individual CPU cores?
[17:15] <kelly> hi guys
[17:15] <saiarcot895> !sensors | Semper
[17:15] <Semper> For the last time
[17:15] <kelly> i want to use clonezilla ,
[17:15] <kelly> if i want to make a backup for linux , should i format the external harddrive as the same file system i use in linux like ext4 ? the external harddrive i have now with ntfs file﻿ system
[17:15] <Semper> I know and have installed lm-sensors
[17:15] <Semper> it does not detect cores
[17:15] <Semper> acpi -t also does not work
[17:16] <saiarcot895> Semper: the reading itself is dependent on your hardware
[17:16] <k1l> Semper: which mainboard-cpu is it? or laptop?
[17:16] <Semper> FX 8120
[17:16] <Semper> AMD Octacore
[17:16] <SirRock> Is there a way I can post screenshots or share my screen to show what I'm doing?
[17:16] <Semper> it does have the sensors as far as I know
[17:17] <greenie> you can use pastebin and/or an image hoster
[17:17] <Semper> The AMD kernel module is not reporting the physical temperatures according to documentation.
[17:17] <samba35> jrib, can you pls tell me which is best vnc server
[17:17] <jrib> samba35: read the wiki and use the one that you want
[17:18] <Semper> samba35, SSH
[17:18] <Semper> :P
[17:18] <QTPieMan> how to get sleep and hibernate?
[17:18] <samba35> ok
[17:18] <samba35> thanks
[17:18] <Semper> Use SSH in order to remotely use the desktops
[17:18] <Semper> vastly superior to any VNC.
[17:18] <samba35> Semper, can you pls give some more details
[17:19] <QTPieMan> any help here?
[17:19] <Semper> Getting a guide
[17:19] <LucidDreamZzZ> ssh has nothing to do w vnc
[17:19] <greenie> kelly: i don't think it matters much
[17:19] <saiarcot895> QTPieMan: I believe sleep is equivalent to suspend
[17:19] <greenie> as long as it's not fat32 ;)
[17:19] <kelly> greenie, BTW , sometimes i get partclone faild ? but this error message happen when i want to make a backup from ubuntu in vbox to externel harddrive
[17:20] <QTPieMan> saiarcot895: yup suspend
[17:20] <hbeck> hey folks. I am getting intermittent connectivity to stuff on my LAN, just upgraded the motherboard and I am suspecting driver issues for the on-board ethernet. Here's a paste of lspci and lsmod (relevant parts): http://paste.ubuntu.com/5884910/
[17:20] <Semper> This should help: http://narnia.cs.ttu.edu/drupal/node/132
[17:21] <BenjaminRH> Hey guys. I'm having some trouble installing 13.04 on a new Toshiba Satellite S70 (dual-boot with Windows 8). Anybody have any experience with that?
[17:21] <saiarcot895> QTPieMan: as for hibernate, see https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html
[17:21] <SirRock> saircot895: Here's what I have so far: http://postimg.org/image/jc3k7pjfl/. I click on the Protege script and it won't run. I type the command in the terminal and it can't find it
[17:21] <hbeck> found some posts saying there may be some issues since the 8169 driver is being used instead of 8168. Would that be responsible for ping, ssh, etc. connections working in and out
[17:21] <hbeck> ?
[17:21] <greenie> hm no idea, didn't try that yet
[17:21] <QTPieMan> saiarcot895: ok
[17:21] <Semper> k1l, I am pretty sure I could get individual core temperatures with speedfan / coretemp in windows.
[17:21] <OerHeks> SirRock, if you installed correct, http://localhost:8080/webprotege/ >>>  http://protegewiki.stanford.edu/wiki/WebProtegeAdminGuide
[17:22] <BenjaminRH> My major initial problem is that the screen is completely dark. If I hold it up to the light and squint at an angle, I can just make out the install window. Function brightness keys don't seem to do anything.
[17:22] <SirRock> I'll try this now
[17:22] <holstein> BenjaminRH: i have seen that
[17:23] <LucidDreamZzZ> this is #ubuntu
[17:23] <BenjaminRH> holstein: have you seen any solutions? :)
[17:23] <holstein> BenjaminRH: i actually have an EEEpc like that, intel hardware surprisingly.. i can use totally different function keys
[17:23] <LucidDreamZzZ> hbeck, what symptoms
[17:23] <holstein> BenjaminRH: also, this happens are reboot, from the bios screen or where ever
[17:24] <LucidDreamZzZ> try blacklisting the module you do not want to load
[17:24] <BenjaminRH> holstein: yep. that's my problem
[17:24] <shahan> euxneks:  sudo apt-get clean has removed all stff i downloaded :(
[17:24] <holstein> BenjaminRH: its affecting the bios screen?
[17:24] <Semper> BenjaminRH, get it fully installed and use brightness config
[17:24] <Semper> if it affects the bios
[17:24] <Semper> it is most likely a broken screen
[17:24] <BenjaminRH> Semper: I can't see anything to install it, unfortunately
[17:24] <Semper> you must have a broken screen
[17:24] <BenjaminRH> the screen certainly isn't broken, Windows runs find
[17:24] <BenjaminRH> fine*
[17:24] <holstein> BenjaminRH: you could have a bad backlight
[17:24] <hbeck> LucidDreamZzZ: Ethernet comes up "ok" but connectivity is in and out. Ping will get "destination host unreachable" for a while, then work, then fail again
[17:24] <Semper> even on the lowest brightness setting you should be able to see it
[17:24] <shahan> now it asks for downloading 288MB again
[17:25] <hbeck> this is just from one local box to another
[17:25] <BenjaminRH> Semper: maybe it's a combination of the backlight not being on and the brightness at 0 or 1?
[17:25] <holstein> BenjaminRH: when it was happening to me, i would pull the battery and unplug
[17:25] <LucidDreamZzZ> hbeck, thats exactly what i was not hoping for :(
[17:25] <matban> guys just installed the ati driver for my HD 7750, TF2 running better than before but it's still lagging quite a bit. what can i do?
[17:25] <holstein> BenjaminRH: but, i found the odd function key combo as well
[17:25] <chadthedude> Hello guys, this script is coded in which language? http://pastebin.com/0cw2c8QW
[17:25] <Semper> matban, is it the AMD Prop driver?
[17:26] <BenjaminRH> holstein: ooh! What's the function key combo?
[17:26] <holstein> BenjaminRH: what i usually do in those situations is remove the hard drive so i can force power off and test without damaging anything
[17:26] <chadthedude> http://pastebin.com/0cw2c8QW <--- Which language this script is coded in?
[17:26] <holstein> BenjaminRH: quite random
[17:26] <chadthedude> holstein: sir, http://pastebin.com/0cw2c8QW <--- Which language this script is coded in?
[17:26] <LucidDreamZzZ> hbeck, i would keep trying in here idk, but blacklisting the module that is not supposed to load might fix
[17:26] <saiarcot895> !patience | chadthedude
[17:26] <kelly> how to extract gz via terminal ?
[17:26] <BenjaminRH> chadthedude: javascript
[17:26] <holstein> chadthedude: i would try a programming channel
[17:26] <BenjaminRH> chadthedude: that's a greasemonkey script
[17:26] <chadthedude> benjaminrh, .js extension?
[17:26] <BenjaminRH> chadthedude: yep
[17:26] <BenjaminRH> chadthedude: .user.js
[17:26] <chadthedude> how can I execute it?
[17:26] <LucidDreamZzZ> hbeck, keep asking in here someone probably has same issue
[17:27] <BenjaminRH> chadthedude: check out greasemonkey if you're in firefox, or tampermonkey if in chrome
[17:27] <chadthedude> BenjaminRH, come to #gstreamer as this is ubuntu-only.
[17:27] <chadthedude> come to #gstreamer and help my ass, man.
[17:27] <BenjaminRH> lol
[17:27] <holstein> !language | chadthedude
[17:27] <matban> Semper: is was the open source one, xorg. I just followed the instructions on the page. Are there tests I can run to confirm which it was for you?
[17:27] <chadthedude> this is a ubuntu-support channel, we'll get banned by holstein.
[17:27] <Semper> should be
[17:27] <holstein> chadthedude: i am just a volunteer making a request.. thanks for your consideration
[17:27] <Semper> Google how to check which driver it is
[17:28] <Semper> if it isn't fglrx
[17:28] <chadthedude> holstein; volunteers are kind.
[17:28] <hbeck> LucidDreamZzZ: hooray... I'll have to see if it is an issue windows-side also (hardware issue or driver issue)
[17:28] <Semper> try their proprietary driver
[17:28] <LucidDreamZzZ> fglrx?
[17:28] <LucidDreamZzZ> hbeck, yeah not sure hmm
[17:28] <Semper> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Catalyst#Linux
[17:29] <hbeck> google finds several threads talking about the drivers with the NIC in question
[17:29] <LucidDreamZzZ> hbeck, try blacklisting see if it loads the 'correct' one instead ? dunno
[17:29] <SirRock> OerHeks: I tried "mkdir /data/webprotege" but the terminal says no such file. What should I do?
[17:30] <hbeck> LucidDreamZzZ: yup, thanks. Will try that as well as seeing if I can get the proprietary drivers in there.
[17:31] <LucidDreamZzZ> im not the best to ask but it might be worth a shot
[17:32] <matban> Semper: is this right? http://linuxhelp.150m.com/ati/ati.htm
[17:32] <LucidDreamZzZ> hmm gtg, hth
[17:32] <LucidDreamZzZ> hbeck, good luck network flakiness worst issue
[17:32] <Semper> Similar but not up to date
[17:32] <Semper> pretty sure you can install it from software centre.
[17:33] <martinny> hello, is there a way to have a raid6 over network or some sort of filesystem with redundancy with multiple physical boxes?
[17:33] <Semper> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[17:33] <Semper> martinny, that is unlikely
[17:34] <Semper> but not impossible
[17:34] <matban> Semper: it recommended using the open source version, which is what i did: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[17:34] <Semper> Yeah I know.
[17:34] <martinny> Semper: whats the best way to have a expandable FS?
[17:35] <Semper> That open source documentation must be pretty old to think that opensource is still better surely.
[17:35] <wabash> Where can I find a list of packages and versions that are in the repos for Ubuntu 13.04, 13.10?
[17:35] <Semper> they've been working on their own driver making it better for ages.
[17:35] <Semper> wabash, use synaptic package manager
[17:35] <Pici> wabash: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[17:35] <wabash> Semper: In 13.10? I don't have that installed yet!!   :)
[17:36] <wabash> Pici: Ok, thank you. It's an online database of sorts?
[17:36] <Pici> wabash: yes
[17:36] <wabash> pici: ok thanks. Looking at it now.
[17:36] <Semper> martinny, I don't know but generally NFS with RAID is a enterprise class hardware and software job.
[17:36] <matban> Semper: so I should install the flgrx driver?
[17:36] <Semper> I am not an expert however.
[17:36] <Semper> matban, try it at least
[17:36] <Semper> it *should* be better.
[17:36] <Semper> but it isn't "free open source"
[17:37] <matban> Semper: also what about this guide? http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Raring_Installation_Guide#Installing_Catalyst_Manually_.28from_AMD.2FATI.27s_site.29_BETA.2FEXPERIMENTAL
[17:37] <Semper> matban, that seems accurate and correct
[17:38] <matban> Semper: ok thanks
[17:42] <quadHelix> Is there a trick to get pdo-mysql working in 12.04?  I have the pertinent packages installed and updated, but cakephp and composer are complaining they are not present
[17:43] <ikonia> quadHelix: where are they looking
[17:43] <quadHelix> ikonia, i assumed /etc/php5/apache2
[17:44] <quadHelix> ikonia, i commented out the line in the ini file to get composer to download plugins.  Now it is saying it really needs the PDO tho :(
[17:44] <ikonia> quadHelix: what package did you install for pdo ?
[17:44] <quadHelix> ikonia pdo-mysql?
[17:44] <ikonia> quadHelix: that package doesn't appear to exist
[17:44] <ikonia> !info pdo-mysql
[17:44] <quadHelix> ikonia, correction: php5-msyql
[17:45] <quadHelix> !info php5-mysql
[17:45] <bcows> if I do sudo killall <ps name> and it runs without error but the process is still listed under the "ps" command what am I doing wrong ?
[17:45] <quadHelix> ikonia, it was complaining about mysqlnd and odbc too
[17:46] <ikonia> quadHelix: looks fine to me
[17:46] <ikonia> quadHelix: just installed it myself
[17:46] <quadHelix> ok ty ikonia
[17:47] <sarcasticsimba> Hey there! Does anyone know how I'd go about setting the screen resolution larger than 1024x768? (I'm running ubuntu in a VM)
[17:47] <theadmin> bcows: I think "killall" defaults  to sending SIGTERM, which means the apps are responsible for finishing up themselves, they are just told "please finish". Try with -KILL
[17:47] <adamk> sarcasticsimba: Do you know if you are using the vmware Xorg driver?
[17:48] <sarcasticsimba> adamk: I'm using virtualbox, so I don't think I've got that driver installed.
[17:48] <Sicp> first off, try VMWare's "VMWare Player"
[17:48] <Sicp> excellent stuff, no extra baggage and really fast
[17:49] <sarcasticsimba> Is it free or open source?
[17:49] <Sicp> free.
[17:49] <adamk> sarcasticsimba: OK, so are you using the vboxvideo driver?
[17:49] <adamk> VirtualBox is fine.  If it doesn't what you need, there's no reason to switch.
[17:49] <bcows> ah thanks theadmin!, that worked
[17:49] <Sicp> I think VirtualBox is crap
[17:49] <adamk> does, not doesn't.
[17:49] <Sicp> that's why I switched, but yes..no reason for you to do the same
[17:50] <sarcasticsimba> adamk: The only graphics drivers I've got installed should be the nvidia ones I installed after setting up the VM
[17:50] <Ekushey> Sicp: but vmware isn't free
[17:50] <Sicp> VMWare Player is
[17:50] <sarcasticsimba> And I'm not a fan of anything Windows; this is for a thing I need to do for work.
[17:50] <adamk> sarcasticsimba: You can't use the nvidia drivers in a virtualbox vm. virtualbox virtualizes its own GPU.
[17:50] <adamk> sarcasticsimba: Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[17:50] <theadmin> sarcasticsimba: You just need to install the guest additions: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-dkms
[17:50] <Sicp> https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/free#desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_player/5_0
[17:51] <sarcasticsimba> adamk: Huh, I see. I'll get right on that, thank you!
[17:53] <quadHelix> I am viewing phpinfo(); and it says the ini file is processed but it contains no other reference to the PDO
[17:54] <Captain_Proton> is it possible to have empathy pop message in 13.04
[17:55] <theadmin> Captain_Proton: pop? Do you mean pop3? If so, Empathy is not an e-mail client, sorry, try Thunderbird, Evolution, KMail... etc
[17:55] <BenjaminRH> perhaps you meant a notification?
[17:55] <Captain_Proton> Yes
[17:55] <theadmin> Ah... Captain_Proton, I think it shows notifications by default, maybe you unchecked that in settings?
[17:55] <BenjaminRH> I thought there was some way to add apps to the whitelist
[17:56] <Captain_Proton> theadmin, yes I lloked for it but I do not see it in the new vrs
[17:57] <sarcasticsimba> adamk: It keeps telling me "Permission Denied" when I try to access that log.
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> Captain_Proton: geary can notify new emails too i think
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> !info geary | Captain_Proton
[17:58] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Empathy is of IM client, not e-mail (which is what I said in my first reply to him/her)
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: oh ok
[17:59] <kelly_> what would you guys recommend as a media manager/player for large libraries ?
[17:59] <Captain_Proton> lotuspsychje, thanks but I am looking to empathy do a toster popup thing. in older version you could uncheck use notification. but I think they removed it in 13.04. So i am loking for hack or something
[18:00] <BenjaminRH> kelly_: Clementine for Music? Or Audacious for Music? and maybe XMBC?
[18:00] <theadmin> Captain_Proton: Empathy does display notifications for me. Are you sure you have notify-osd installed?
[18:01] <theadmin> !info notify-osd
[18:01] <rantic> kelly_: I've heard a lot of people rave about clemintine and nightingale
[18:01] <rantic> clementine8
[18:01] <OerHeks> rantic +1 clementine is awesome
[18:02] <kelly_>  I used to use gmusicbrowser
[18:02] <kelly_> noise can't handle 150GB of music unfortunately :(
[18:02] <euxneks> nightingale?
[18:02] <euxneks> anyone have a link? First I've heard of nightingale
[18:02] <rantic> euxneks: http://getnightingale.com/
[18:03] <BenjaminRH> not nightingale :(
[18:03] <euxneks> rantic, thanks
[18:03] <BenjaminRH> Audacious is the best for music imho
[18:03] <Ari-Yang> kelly_, mpd is good, Music Player Daemon. and a front-end gui like gmppc, sonata, and others
[18:03] <Ari-Yang> !mpd
[18:03] <rantic> BenjaminRH: Audacious is nice but she explicitly asked for something to manage large libraries ... I wouldn't feel duacious would be best for that
[18:04] <rantic> goodness I can't type today
[18:04] <Ari-Yang> kelly_, http://www.musicpd.org/
[18:04] <sarcasticsimba> @adamk: pastebin.com/8Vj403SM
[18:05] <BenjaminRH> rantic: I manage quite a large library with Audacious
[18:05] <BenjaminRH> rantic: but I see your point
[18:06] <kelly_> thank you guys
[18:06] <euxneks> is audacious installed by default on ubuntu now?
[18:06] <abhi_> Hi everyone . I have installed ubuntu (12.04 LTS 32bit ) on windows 7 machine ( With deleting windows 7 ) . It worked fine but I have released that I am using 64bit system , so I installed 12.04 LTS 64bit by deleting 32bit install (using CD) . But =after install I am unable to boot , I am getting error 1962 (No operating system found) . I have tired Boot - repair and here is my past bib - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5884554/
[18:06] <euxneks> apparently I've installed it already :P
[18:06] <kenlik> my ubuntu is 12.10 and i'm has java installed as "java -version" works and shows java version "1.7.0_21" OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.3.9) (7u21-2.3.9-0ubuntu0.12.10.1) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.7-b01, mixed mode)
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> !info audacious | euxneks
[18:07] <quadHelix> ikonia:  what is the contents of your /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini for the [Pdo] and [Pdo_msyql] sections?  My driver is there but apache is not loading it, and I did not see the driver in mods-available.
[18:07] <abhi_> I have searched ubuntu forum could not find any help and I am new user cannot post before completing 25 posts . Please help ( My system is ThinkCentre
[18:07] <kenlik> but http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp doesn't show the machine informations; so how to solve it?
[18:08] <kenlik> my browser is Google Chrome 27.0.1453.110
[18:08] <Captain_Proton> abhi_, is there anything on there you want to keep like docs or music?
[18:08] <quadHelix> abhi_ have you tried reloading the 64 bit OS again?  when asked how you want to partition your disks pick the option that says something like "let ubuntu decide" and "will destroy data"
[18:08] <theadmin> kenlik: is icedtea-7-plugin installed?
[18:08] <abhi_> @captain_proton I do not want to keep anything
[18:09] <theadmin> kenlik: And, in chrome://plugins, is it enabled?
[18:09] <abhi_> @quadHelix I have tired reinstalling ubuntu twice but i got same result
[18:09] <Captain_Proton> abhi_, Like quadHelix said wipe and reinstall
[18:10] <nasir> how do i password protect an app?
[18:10] <abhi_> @Captain I have done that , but install i get Error 1962 :No operating system found - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5884554/
[18:11] <BenjaminRH> abhi_: boot off a live-usb, use gparted to formate the entire drive, then reinstall using the live usb
[18:11] <kenlik> theadmin, not. i'll install icedtea-7-plugin; is it an ubuntu package, right?
[18:11] <theadmin> kenlik: Yup
[18:12] <abhi_> @BenjaminRH I should not use the DVD ? ( which i burned ) but use a usb ?
[18:12] <BenjaminRH> abhi_: the dvd is fine too
[18:12] <BenjaminRH> I assumed you were using a usb
[18:12] <theadmin> abhi_: DVDs are slow, so if you're fine with waiting like 10 minutes for it to load, yeah :D
[18:13] <Semper> *I have LM SENSORS* Anyone know how to get the individual core temperatures of a FX 8120?
[18:13] <abhi_> @BenjaminRH @theadmin Do I burn the GParted on same DVD or different one ?
[18:14] <BenjaminRH> abhi_: I think Ubuntu has a built in thing that lets you reformat the drive. Disk management, or something
[18:14] <theadmin> abhi_: Uh, GParted is included in the Ubuntu dvd, you just run it (select "Try Ubuntu" on the startup screen and search for it in the Dash)
[18:14] <BenjaminRH> theadmin: gparted comes with Ubuntu now?
[18:14] <theadmin> BenjaminRH: Used to for ages. But the installer doesn't install it on the target system, it's only on the live media which kinda makes sense
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> Semper: maybe apt-cache search sensors might help to find any other toolz
[18:15] <BenjaminRH> theadmin: ahh. That does make sense
[18:15] <prawnsalad> hi, using ufw, how can i see the current default action?
[18:15] <abhi_> @theadmin @BenjaminRH Thanks , I will do that now and let you know the results ( b/w i borrowed a usb now)
[18:16] <kelly_> can i use geray mail for gmail account , there is a strange problem i put the email and password then when i click add it said username or password is incorrect but when i log to the gmail account via browner it works !!!
[18:16] <vk> Hi, so I'd like to resize my ubuntu window. I'm sarcasticsimba from before, but for some reason I guess I wasn't logged out...?
[18:17] <Semper> perhaps
[18:17] <sarcasticsimba> Oh, there we go.
[18:17] <Semper> spent bloody ages trying to find something
[18:18] <abhi_> @BenjaminRH do I need to change the boot mode to UEFI ? or not needed?
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> Semper: did you look here if yours is listed? http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/Configurations
[18:19] <Semper> I know it is since LM sensors is listing k10
[18:21] <kenlik> theadmin, thanks in advance it solve the problem ;)
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> Semper: how about this url: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[18:22] <kenlik> theadmin, i just check these option from ubuntu software center, and wait a few minutes ...
[18:22] <BenjaminRH> anybody know how to set nomodeset when installing 13.04 from a live-usb?
[18:22] <quadHelix> does anybody have a working LAMP install?  if yes, could you tell me what you have listed under the Mysql section?  My phpinfo() contains only 4 references to mysql and all are inii files.
[18:22] <[cannibalera]> Guys, I'm doing a server database with mysql and redhat, and would like to know what are the parameters you can change to create a partition to store the bank.
[18:23] <auronandace> !nomodeset | BenjaminRH
[18:23] <theadmin> [cannibalera]: Redhat... is waaaay not Ubuntu.
[18:23] <BenjaminRH> auronandace: thanks! I didn't realize the problem was popular enough to put it in the bot :)
[18:23] <[cannibalera]> theadmin, sorry, is CentOS ;)
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | quadHelix
[18:24] <Semper> yup re did it but it made no change
[18:24] <theadmin> [cannibalera]: Still. Go to their channels.
[18:24] <quadHelix> ubottu - i know what it is... what I dont know is why my phpinfo has no references to mysql
[18:25] <quadHelix> ubottu - ty for link i go read
[18:25] <quadHelix> :)
[18:25] <prawnsalad> hi, using ufw, how can i see the current default action?
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> !ufw | prawnsalad
[18:27] <kelly_> guys  what is imap username ? and smtp username ?
[18:28] <kelly_> where can i find these settings ?!
[18:28] <euxneks> kelly_, usually you set those in the options of your email client
[18:29] <LucidDreamZzZ> imap username and smtp username are your email address
[18:29] <euxneks> kelly_, imap username is the name you use to log into the mail server to get your emails, and the smtp username is the name you use to authenticate to a server to send emails
[18:29] <LucidDreamZzZ> full email address with the @
[18:29] <Semper> lotuspsychje, Asus board, not listed in their wiki
[18:30] <ner0x> Any simple way to add a script for startup/shutdown?
[18:30] <LucidDreamZzZ> cron job
[18:30] <Semper> M5A78L-M/USB3
[18:30] <kelly_> ok what is the imap password and smtp password ? my gmail password right ?!
[18:30] <Semper> yes
[18:30] <LucidDreamZzZ> yea
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> !cron | ner0x
[18:30] <euxneks> kelly_, generally, yes. Are you setting up an email client?
[18:31] <ner0x> lotuspsychje: Even if it has to be run from root?
[18:31] <kelly_> yes
[18:31] <LucidDreamZzZ> hmm good point
[18:31] <LucidDreamZzZ> rly?
[18:31] <ner0x> What about /etc/init.d/ or something like rc.local ?
[18:32] <LucidDreamZzZ> sudo user can run cron without pw?
[18:32] <euxneks> kelly_, if you want your email client to log into gmail and sent emails via gmail's smtp server then yes, it would be your gmail username and password.
[18:32] <LucidDreamZzZ> security hole
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> !info xsensors | Semper
[18:33] <Semper> I'll try it
[18:33] <Semper> but I have no GUI
[18:33] <BenjaminRH> auronandace: thanks very much for that nomodeset link. Solved all my problems :)
[18:33] <theadmin> LucidDreamZzZ: Nope... Not like you can edit the systemwide crontab without the password, right? So, if you add the command there, why would it have to ask for password everytime?
[18:33] <LucidDreamZzZ> yeah i guess
[18:34] <LucidDreamZzZ> yeah u need pw to edit jobs right
[18:34] <Semper> over ssh
[18:34] <Semper> it still gives only one temp
[18:34] <LucidDreamZzZ> hate this sudo
[18:34] <bitbyte> hey guys I'm on ubuntu server and for life of me can't remember how to display current drives cause I'm trying to setup my stab any ideas
[18:34] <LucidDreamZzZ> just let me have root i will be ok
[18:34] <bitbyte> I'm trying frisk but can't remember how to print the drive table not part ion table
[18:34] <euxneks> LucidDreamZzZ, sudo su -
[18:34] <LucidDreamZzZ> sfdisk -d
[18:35] <LucidDreamZzZ> yea that is retarded
[18:35] <LucidDreamZzZ> sudo su
[18:35] <LucidDreamZzZ> iknow to do it but meh
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> Semper: hmm are you sure you have several?
[18:35] <euxneks> LucidDreamZzZ, ah
[18:35] <meowlulzcat> any good c++ book suggestions
[18:35] <Semper> I built the machine, I know it has 8 cores.
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> !ot | meowlulzcat
[18:35] <Semper> I am also fairly sure it reported them in coretemp/speedfan.
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> Semper:maybe the the ##hardware channel aswell to findout more about your issue?
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> *try
[18:36] <Semper> indeed
[18:36] <LucidDreamZzZ> i usually have to do exactly that because im not sure how to use pipes with sudo
[18:37] <TheCompWiz> can someone tell me why when I have 2 interfaces both with gateways defined... I do not get two default gateways?
[18:38] <LucidDreamZzZ> only 1 default, but you can use 'metric'
[18:38] <LucidDreamZzZ> then it wil prioritize, not perfect but all we have
[18:38] <TheCompWiz> LucidDreamZzZ: I know this... and have done such... but only one interface's gateway definition applies.  (specifically the first one to come up)
[18:38] <TheCompWiz> only ONE default route is added for some dumb reason.
[18:39] <xentity1x> Hi I'm having trouble accessing my tty shells on a lenovo 530w with an nvidia quadro k2000m graphics card. Anyone else have this problem?
[18:39] <xentity1x> They're black but I can enter commands
[18:39] <LucidDreamZzZ> hmm, i have two gateways as well but not set up for second one yet
[18:40] <TheCompWiz> LucidDreamZzZ: if you ifup both interfaces... only the 1st gateway will be added to the routing table.
[18:40] <TheCompWiz> or rather... the gateway of the first interface to be brought up.
[18:40] <LucidDreamZzZ> xentity1x, if it works at all you are lucky, check hardware compatability list
[18:40] <dufa> hello! I ran into a problem where the default ubuntu video player (totem) prompts an error when trying to play video prom a dvd.
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> !info vlc | dufa
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> dufa: install vlc mate it can play them all
[18:41] <LucidDreamZzZ> TheCompWiz, man ip you should be able to add gateways?? hmm
[18:42] <dufa> will chech it out
[18:42] <dufa> check*
[18:42] <abhi_> @theadmin I have followed your instructions , I have run the gpart and then installed ubuntu again but I am getting same error
[18:42] <abhi_> what should i do ?
[18:43] <theadmin> abhi_: Um, what's the error?
[18:43] <xentity1x> luciddreamzzz, you mean check to see if my graphics card is supported? Where do I do that?
[18:43] <TheCompWiz> LucidDreamZzZ: I can manually add them... that's not the issue... it's just annoying that using the "interfaces" file doesn't work.
[18:43] <LucidDreamZzZ> right that is where i would do it too, hmm
[18:43] <LucidDreamZzZ> xentity1x, one sec i try to find a link
[18:44] <LucidDreamZzZ> !x
[18:44] <LucidDreamZzZ> hmm
[18:44] <TheCompWiz> not just that... but creating a sub-interface on a bridge tries to create a 2nd bridge... rather than just the sub.
[18:44] <abhi_> @theadmin Error 1962: No operating system found .. Press any key to repeat boot sequence
[18:44] <theadmin> abhi_: Err, wut?... I dunno, sorry. Looks weird.
[18:45] <LucidDreamZzZ> !hardware
[18:45] <LucidDreamZzZ> tbere ya go xentity1x ^
[18:45] <lotuspsychje> abhi_:did you look at the uefi trigger?
[18:46] <xentity1x> thanks
[18:46] <xentity1x> so its not supported
[18:46] <abhi_> I am unable to boot ubuntu 12.04 LTS (64 bit) after installing it over Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (32bit) ( I made mistake installing 32bit first) ( ThinkCentre)
[18:46] <LucidDreamZzZ> yeah vesa driver might work
[18:46] <abhi_> @lotuspsychje what is uefi trigger ?
[18:46] <lolcat> What cp flags to copy my full install?
[18:46] <LucidDreamZzZ> but yrmv
[18:46] <xentity1x> is this for the nouveau drivers?
[18:46] <LucidDreamZzZ> -a?
[18:46] <xentity1x> im using the proprietary.
[18:46] <xentity1x> Am I out of luck?
[18:47] <TheCompWiz> abhi_: is the server 64-bit capable? ... are you wiping the disk?  you can't install on-top-of 32-bit.
[18:47] <Deepj> meowlulzcat :  the book by stroustrup
[18:47] <abhi_> @TheCompWiz yes it is capable , I have wiped the disk
[18:48] <abhi_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5884554/  - Boot repair
[18:48] <TheCompWiz> abhi_: is the bios configured for 64-bit? ... some have options to turn it off.
[18:48] <LucidDreamZzZ> xentity1x, good q i reallydont kjnow then check nvidia.com maybe hmm
[18:48] <xentity1x> thanks
[18:48] <LucidDreamZzZ> did you get the correct binary?
[18:48] <dufa> lotuspsychje, seems the problem was with missing libdvdread for reading scrambled video, everything works now. even got vlc. thx bye
[18:48] <LucidDreamZzZ> there are like 3
[18:49] <zebaoth> i have problems with radeon drivers
[18:49] <abhi_> @TheCompWiz it is configured
[18:49] <TheCompWiz> abhi_: what is the exact error?
[18:49] <LucidDreamZzZ> zebaoth, join the club
[18:50] <LucidDreamZzZ> what ereors
[18:50] <abhi_> Erro 1962: No Operating System Found
[18:50] <LucidDreamZzZ> brb
[18:50] <abhi_> Error* When I try to boot
[18:50] <TheCompWiz> ... then you didn't complete the install... or grub failed.
[18:51] <abhi_> @TheCompWiz I think grub failed , how do I fix that
[18:51] <TheCompWiz> install grub
[18:51] <csdco> What defines an "obsolete package"?
[18:52] <TheCompWiz> when a package is replaced by another package that does the same job.
[18:53] <csdco> Okay, thanks.
[18:53] <LucidDreamZzZ> damn garry's mod crash...
[18:53] <LucidDreamZzZ> say not enough memory i have 16gb
[18:53] <csdco> I was nervous to remote "134 obsolete packages" if obsolete just meant they were no longer in the repository or something.
[18:53] <LucidDreamZzZ> i can play singleplayer tho
[18:53] <csdco> remove**
[18:54] <TheCompWiz> csdco: what were you doing?
[18:54] <bitbyte> any of you guys able to help with a apt problem
[18:54] <csdco> a release upgrade
[18:54] <csdco> TheCompWiz: @
[18:54] <theadmin> csdco: That's perfectly fine then, you can remove them safely
[18:54] <LucidDreamZzZ> yeah edit /etc/default/grub, then run grub2-update or whatever
[18:54] <theadmin> csdco: Happens all the time
[18:54] <TheCompWiz> dist upgrade? or just update?
[18:54] <bitbyte> i keep doing sudo apt-get upgrade and it keeps saying no packages
[18:54] <csdco> theadmin: thanks
[18:54] <csdco> TheCompWiz: dist
[18:55] <csdco> bitbyte: you tried sudo apt-get update first?
[18:55] <TheCompWiz> call me old-fashioned... but I still like to nuke-pave between dists. :D
[18:55] <bitbyte> yeh I've run update first and runs fine
[18:55] <csdco> TheCompWiz: Right on.
[18:55] <bitbyte> keep getting this http://pastebin.com/PJF012mW
[18:55] <LucidDreamZzZ> i had a horrible time dist-upgrade a while back
[18:56] <LucidDreamZzZ> never again
[18:56] <bitbyte> the web min dependencies i can live with but it apt-get install isn't returning any results
[18:56] <bitbyte> i.e. i get same as above on sudo apt-get install vsftpd
[18:56] <TheCompWiz> webmin? ... you're fired.
[18:56] <LucidDreamZzZ> haha
[18:57] <LucidDreamZzZ> webmin ok if preinstalled otherwise not worth effort setting it all up
[18:57] <bitbyte> well its a home server and i liked the way it displays the users and groups :P
[18:57] <LucidDreamZzZ> i likethe icons too
[18:57] <LucidDreamZzZ> yea
[18:57] <bitbyte> mainly used it for trouble shooting issues with deluge
[18:58] <bitbyte> but yeh at the moment apt-get seems broken as it returns no results
[18:58] <conscientia> the automatic grub is nice for setting up multiple distros
[18:58] <cantelope> Can someone please take a look at this and explain whats happening? I am trying to reinstall apache because it refused to parse php, but apache WONT uninstall :(
[18:58] <cantelope> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5885232/
[18:58] <LucidDreamZzZ> i like their isp config thing for pay, but then you might as well get plesk or cpanel or whatever
[18:59] <LucidDreamZzZ> is it called apache2?
[18:59] <LucidDreamZzZ> that is just the configs
[18:59] <theadmin> cantelope: It's removed...
[18:59] <LucidDreamZzZ> i thought
[19:00] <cantelope> theadmin: then why does the service start, and respond to http requests
[19:00] <LucidDreamZzZ> ^
[19:00] <theadmin> cantelope: Now you can also remove the no longer required packages with 'apt-get autoremove', like it told you.
[19:01] <Eagleman> WIll this run once every two weeks in a cronjob? expr `date +\%W` \% 2 > /dev/null || screen -d -m -S Esxi-Backup /scripts/to/run
[19:01] <huehue> help
[19:01] <conscientia> You could try whereis for looking around
[19:02] <bitbyte> so any ideas why apt-get upgrade isn't working ? ?
[19:02] <LucidDreamZzZ> whoami
[19:02] <LucidDreamZzZ> lol brb
[19:02] <huehue> i've got broken packages...
[19:02] <cantelope> theadmin: what part of apache is removed by that if it still can start and function?
[19:03] <LucidDreamZzZ> i have to play video game
[19:03] <conscientia> that needs dkpg-reconfigure
[19:03] <theadmin> cantelope: I am quite sure that "apache2" is just a metapackage that doesn't actually *do* anything, it just depends on the actual server packages
[19:03] <Elisha> Hello people, I have problem with Ubuntu's network, I have set static IP, but reconfigures itself over DHCP to different IP in the background, how is that possible?
[19:03] <theadmin> cantelope: So do the autoremove thing
[19:05] <cantelope> theadmin: okay, I did that and that got rid of it (seemingly), but then I installed php5 (which autoinstalls apache again) and my php files still download rather than parse. Is there something else I need to do to flush out the old config completely? I know from other clean installs that installing php5 works out of the box for a dev environment
[19:05] <theadmin> cantelope: sudo a2enmod php5 ?
[19:06] <cantelope> theadmin: "Module php5 already enabled"
[19:06] <theadmin> cantelope: ...huh.
[19:06] <theadmin> cantelope: Well, you could try purging it altogether ("remove" doesn't get rid of config files, so: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove apache2 )
[19:06] <conscientia> is there somewhere you can track modules?
[19:07] <theadmin> cantelope: Then you can reinstall and get the default configs back
[19:08] <TheCompWiz> Elisha: when configuring the static IP... did you forget to shutdown the interface first before making changes? .... perhaps dhclient is still running on that interface.
[19:08] <LucidDreamZzZ> i think the package is apache, not apache2
[19:08] <theadmin> LucidDreamZzZ: Nope
[19:08] <LucidDreamZzZ> idk tho
[19:08] <LucidDreamZzZ> no?
[19:08] <theadmin> LucidDreamZzZ: "apache" is yet *another* metapackage, lol
[19:08] <Elisha> TheCompWiz: that might be the case yes
[19:08] <theadmin> LucidDreamZzZ: Doesn't matter which you write
[19:08] <cantelope> theadmin: still giving me the same behavior... :\ strange
[19:08] <LucidDreamZzZ> wow haha theadmin :)
[19:09] <Elisha> TheCompWiz: though I did do restart of networing service
[19:09] <theadmin> cantelope: Odd... well... I dunno really :(
[19:09] <Eagleman> How can i run a cronjob every 2 weeks?
[19:09] <TheCompWiz> ps ax |grep dhclient3  & kill the process if you see one listening on your interface
[19:09] <cantelope> theadmin: thanks for the help
[19:09] <conscientia> vixie-cron or crontab maybe is a good idea for cron issues
[19:11] <coventry> When I add or remove my yubikey, "udevadm monitor --udev" reports many interleaved "add" and "remove" events.  E.g. <http://pastebin.com/gXNkEW0d>.  Is there a udev-related way to prevent this from happening?  It's something I have to work around to securely use my yubikey to lock and unlock my screensaver.  (Ubuntu 13.04)
[19:11] <Elisha> TheCompWiz: yes, there was a dhclient running, thanks
[19:11] <TheCompWiz> :)
[19:12] <netlar> When I use find I keep getting gvfs, why is that?
[19:12] <netlar> I am not even looking for that
[19:12] <Elisha> I had problem with restarting networking service yesterday, so I deleted the ip addr del ... because it wouldn't do it otherwise
[19:12] <coventry> Or an un-udev-related way?  (I copy-and-pasted that question from #udev, where it has been languishing for a while. :-)
[19:14] <Pici> netlar: How are you using find?
[19:14] <netlar> Pici: find -name "nameoffile"
[19:15] <babinlonston> there are 100 files which name was start with _babinnotes_ to _babinnotes99_ how can i remove the _ underscores from all the 100 files and rest want to be as it is ... please help which command will remove all the _ s
[19:15] <Pici> netlar: and how are you 'getting gvfs'?
[19:15] <felixsamora> identify via /msg NickServ f3lixthecat
[19:15] <DJones> felixsamora: New password time
[19:15] <netlar> Pici: find: `./.gvfs': Permission denied
[19:15] <LucidDreamZzZ> hahaa
[19:16] <felixsamora> yep
[19:16] <LucidDreamZzZ> going to play hl2dm
[19:16] <saiarcot895> babinlonston: you'll need to have a for loop, and in it, you can use the mv command
[19:16] <netlar> Pici: I do not get that if I run in sudo
[19:16] <Spookydad> Does anyone know how I can get the app Creator from Simplify3d to find my USB port?
[19:17] <babinlonston> how can i use mv for all 100 files , did i want to use it one by one ?
[19:17] <netlar> Pici: I guess it is a protected file in my home directory, think I answered my own question, thanks
[19:17] <Spookydad> pronterface finds it as /dev/ttyUSB0 but Creator can't find it
[19:17] <r0bert> hello
[19:17] <Pici> netlar: its because of the way that gvfs works.  You can append 2>/dev/null to the end of your command to point stderr to /dev/null
[19:18] <coventry> netlar: It is trying to enter that directory, but it is owned by root.  Don't worry about it, unless you think the file you're searching for could be under that directory.
[19:18] <felixsamora> DJones: done :-)
[19:18] <Pici> babinlonston: assuming you want to remove all underscores from those files: rename 's/_//g' *babinnotes*
[19:18] <coventry> Pici: I don't think that behavior has much to do with gvfs.  It is strictly a matter of filesystem permissions and the way "find" works.
[19:18] <netlar> coventry: I was just more curious, was not seeing that in any of the tutorials I have been watching
[19:19] <Pici> coventry: yes, but the permissions thing has to do with the way gvfs works.
[19:19] <coventry> netlar: no worries.
[19:19] <r0bert> hello all. can somebody help me ? i installed 2 ntfs drives from a windows pc with movies. i created a share but i can't access it from windows 7 or other notebook
[19:19] <babinlonston> yes i want to remove all _ from files will this help me rename 's/_//g' *babinnotes*
[19:20] <Pici> babinlonston: yes, that is why I said it.
[19:20] <netlar> Pici: so gvfs is for the gnome file system
[19:20] <babinlonston> ok wait let me try and give u the result sir
[19:21] <Pici> netlar: yes, gnome's virtual file system thing.
[19:22] <netlar> Pici: I was not sure what you were talking about with the /dev/null stuff
[19:22] <Pici> netlar: That was just to make your find command not show you the errors that it was getting from not being able to access those paths.
[19:22] <k1l> netlar: gvfs is the GUI automount stuff
[19:22] <ratek__1> babinlonston, why not test it in a new directory with 3-5 files first
[19:23] <netlar> Pici: ahh ok, thanks
[19:23] <babinlonston> tested with 10 files and not worked for me
[19:23] <babinlonston> just not even showing error
[19:23] <conscientia> could you try access the from a sort of livecd environment and mount the UUID from there in a temorary directory?
[19:23] <conscientia> the share directory I meant
[19:28] <Spookydad> can someone help me with a USB configuration issue?
[19:28] <abhi_> I repaired by GRUB2 - Purging & Reinstalling GRUB 2 then also i get Error 1962 (No operating system found )
[19:28] <abhi_> I am unable to boot after installing ubuntu 12.04LTS 64bit on Thinkcentre
[19:28] <abhi_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5885309/
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> abhi_, This a dual boot and if so with what?
[19:29] <abhi_> @wilee-nilee not dual boot
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> abhi_, No but you have a uefi setuo, hold on
[19:29] <funky> hey folks
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | abhi_
[19:30] <funky> I used iptables -L -n no rules set,  mysql listens on localhost:3306
[19:30] <funky> when I want to connect it rejects
[19:30] <funky> any idea what can it be?
[19:30] <abhi_> @wilee-bilee and @ubottu thanks
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> abhi_, more http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295    http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/secureboot.html  Enjoy.
[19:31] <bitbyte> n vsftpd do you guys know how to define the passwords for users
[19:31] <bitbyte> or the users taken from the ubuntu username list
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> abhi_, Was this a computer with W8 originally?
[19:33] <abhi_> @wile-nilee originally was with Windows 7 then I installed ubuntu 12.04 lts 32bit & was working fine. Then I realised that it is 64 bit machine , so tired to install Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 32bit and getting errors from then
[19:35] <Spookydad> hello
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> abhi_, Did you want the gpt setup?
[19:36] <abhi_> Yes
[19:36] <huehue> can i actually get some help around here or not
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> abhi_, Cool, I figured that.
[19:36] <Jagst3r15> can global menu be backported to ubuntu 12.04 for LibreOffice?
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> huehue, Only by stating your troubles to the channel.
[19:37] <Spookydad> how do I configure my usb ports
[19:37] <SonikkuAmerica> Jagst3r15: Install lo-menubar
[19:37] <mnms> Guys someone ry to compile vim with ruby 2.0 ??
[19:37] <huehue> alright, well basically i tried upgrading my software from 10.04 to 12.04...but it stopped somewhere halfway and said that i have broken packages
[19:38] <ratek__1> babinlonston rename 's/_//g' ... works here, if theres no error, that means it worked
[19:38] <aviraldg> Hey. I'm not sure if this is the right channel, because my problem is likely caused one of several different things. So, I have a Django app running (via the devserver) on a Ubuntu VM and every time I try to hit it, I get a 500 error, plus ERRNO 32 Broken Pipe. A different Django app set up on the same VM works flawlessly. I've tried everything, but this just doesn't work. Help, please!
[19:38] <mnms> Guys someone try to compile vim with ruby 2.0 ??
[19:38] <Jagst3r15> SonikkuAmerica why Canonical cannot backport?
[19:38] <Pici> aviraldg: if its via the devserver you might want to ask in #django
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> aviraldg, For the record help removes some users wanting to help, it does me anyway.
[19:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Jagst3r15: Who knows?
[19:39] <Spookydad> is there a UBuntu beginner's channel?
[19:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Spookydad: #ubuntu-beginners
[19:39] <potatoman> hello?
[19:40] <marcin_m> someone try to compile vim with ruby 2.0 ?
[19:40] <potatoman> I was wondering if anyone could help me with a problem i'm having with terminal
[19:40] <SonikkuAmerica> !anyone
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> potatoman, Stste you issue to the channel. ;)
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> State*
[19:41] <huehue> so...anyone gonna answer my Q
[19:41] <potatoman> thanks! I've been trying to install ubuntu with bastille, which i think may be the source of the issue. For some reason, when I try to open a terminal window it fails to create a child process. could this be a result of some setting in Bastille? after initially saving the settings I didn't have thsi problem. any ideas?
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> huehue, This a desktop release?
[19:42] <huehue> Yes, my PC already came installed with ubuntu, it's not a duel boot or anything
[19:42] <potatoman> it's a desktop release, I got the iso and installed it onto a partition on my PC
[19:42] <wilee-nilee> !eol | huehue read the eol upgrade path
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> huehue, You were in the install portion or download?
[19:43] <Dr_willis> Bastille? - havent heard of that in ages.. why do you really want/need bastille?
[19:43] <Lanser> Hi, I cannot open "Computer", it gives me an error saying "Nautilus cannot open computer location"
[19:43] <potatoman> I'm trying to harden my computer to some degree because I'll be doing some work in cybersec
[19:44] <Lanser> sorry, "Nautilus could not handle computer location"
[19:44] <wilee-nilee> huehue, Can you post the broken packages as well?
[19:44] <huehue> I searched for updates, it gave me the option to update to 12.04 and everything was going as expected, but when i left the computer and came back i saw i was still running 10.04...checked what happened and it said i had broken packages
[19:44] <Lanser> how can I dix this?
[19:44] <Lanser> fix*
[19:44] <Lanser> I cannot open "Computer", it gives me error saying, Nautilus cannot handle computer locations. How can I fix this annoying problem?
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> huehue, lets see two things in a pastebin 1st cat /etc/apt/sources.list   then a sudo apt-get update
[19:45] <huehue> I get this...
[19:45] <huehue> [sudo apt-get install] Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these. The following packages have unmet dependencies: libc6: Depends: libc-bin (= 2.11.1-0ubuntu7.12) but 2.15-0ubuntu10.3 is installed Recommends: libc6-i686 python-louis: Depends: liblouis0 (>= 1.7.0-2) but it is not installable ubuntu-minimal: Depends: libc6-i686 E: Un
[19:45] <Dr_willis> Lanser,  try making a new user. see if they have the same issue.
[19:45] <Lanser> I did, dr_willis.
[19:45] <Lanser> didn't work
[19:46] <potatoman> when terminal opens up at all I get an error like "bash: fork: retry: no child process" several times
[19:46] <Lanser> it's also showing some mount thing
[19:46] <Lanser> the mount is there
[19:46] <Lanser> "??" and "usb"
[19:46] <Lanser> when this thing arrived, the error was triggered.
[19:46] <potatoman> followed by "/user/bin/lesspipe: 1: /user/bash/lesspipe: (and so on)"
[19:46] <Dr_willis> 'some mount thing' ?  be a bit more specific
[19:46] <Lanser> dr_willis: are there any other file managers like nautilus for gnoem?
[19:46] <Dr_willis> Lanser,  theres dozens of file managers out there.
[19:47] <Lanser> which one is the best, dr_willis
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> huehue, Pastebin those two command readouts.
[19:47] <Lanser> alongside nautilus.
[19:47] <Dr_willis> not all handle the special 'places'  that gnome uses.
[19:47] <Dr_willis> Lanser,  try them out and decide for yourself. I tend to j7ust use 'mc' in a terminal window
[19:48] <LucidDreamZzZ> i like rox
[19:48] <Dr_willis> rox-filer has some neat features.. and some weird quirks. ;)
[19:48] <potatoman> Dr_willis: is bastille obsolete? is there any other SELinux-like hardening tool I can use?
[19:48] <LucidDreamZzZ> yes those are features :)
[19:48] <Dr_willis> potatoman,  no idea. Ibe not heard bastille mentioned in years.
[19:48] <Dr_willis> !bastille
[19:48] <Dr_willis> !selinux
[19:48] <LucidDreamZzZ> it generally does exactly what i want
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, So a question, on eol upgrades should one use the eol path given by the bot always, users have been reporting upgrades in the update manager is all.
[19:49] <LucidDreamZzZ> !rox
[19:49] <huehue> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise Release.gpg Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main Translation-en_US Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/restricted Translation-en_US Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/universe Translation-en_US Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/multiverse Translation-en_US Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates Release.gpg [198B] Ign http://u
[19:49] <LucidDreamZzZ> !lilo
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | huehue
[19:49] <huehue> !pastebin
[19:49] <Lanser> I cannot mount anything
[19:49] <LucidDreamZzZ> meh
[19:49] <Dr_willis> wilee-nilee,  if they  are truely EOL and the repos have moved, then they have to do the special stuff the bot says about changeing the sources.list ,
[19:49] <Lanser> I cannot enter any USB
[19:49] <huehue> sorry i don't know what that means or what you want me to do lol...
[19:49] <Lanser> :S
[19:49] <Lanser> my ubuntu is screwed up
[19:50] <Dr_willis> Lanser,  'enter any usb' ?
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> huehue, Look at the bots pastbin info.
[19:50] <Dr_willis> you can alwys try mounting via the commandline.
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> pastebin*
[19:50] <LucidDreamZzZ> these x-update mesa 3 drivers are sooo good
[19:50] <Lanser> dr_willis, I connected my PSP and nothing is popping up
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> huehue, YOU run each command then copy and paste all the read out to the pastebin, seperating the two with a couple of spaces or seperate pastebins.
[19:51] <LucidDreamZzZ> plays like i had hoped
[19:51] <Lanser> ill give you the screenshot, dr_willis
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, Thanks, I wonder if these upgrades offered on eols can be thrown by sources.lists & source.list.d being well customized, lol.
[19:52] <LucidDreamZzZ> s/like/better than
[19:52] <Dr_willis> wilee-nilee,  thats why the big move to using ppas have been pushed so hard. ones sources.list really shouldent be touched much these days
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> yeah
[19:53] <huehue> i have an address for that
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> huehue, giver to us.
[19:54] <huehue> http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu/dists/
[19:54] <huehue> i don't know what that is exactly but
[19:54] <Lanser> My battery was at 01% a few minutes ago, and I had connected a PSP in my computer, and my computer suddenly shutted down (i set this), and then, when I started it again, nautilus says "Nautilus cannot handle computer location", and I cannot connect any USB now. and it shows this: http://i.imgur.com/86amf8G.png
[19:54] <Lanser> dr_willis, http://i.imgur.com/86amf8G.png
[19:55] <wilee-nilee> !ppa | huehue thatb is a ppa.
[19:55] <Dr_willis> Lanser,  could be the label of the filesystem has some weird characters, or its currupted.
[19:56] <Lanser> I connected a kingston usb drive with some files in it, and it doesn't show up, I also tried checking /media, but its all empty there.
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> huehue, Honestly even though your computer is running now are you backed up?
[19:56] <cantelope> How can I prevent a user from logging in via ssh without breaking the ability to log in locally as the user using 'su'
[19:56] <Lanser> my filesystem is corrupted? how can I fix this?
[19:56] <Dr_willis> Lanser,  try mounting it by hand, with use of the mount command.
[19:56] <Dr_willis> !mount | Lanser
[19:56] <Dr_willis> !fsck | Lanser
[19:57] <LucidDreamZzZ> touch /checkdisk
[19:57] <Lanser> dr_willis, WARNING!!!  The filesystem is mounted.   If you continue you ***WILL***
[19:57] <Lanser> cause ***SEVERE*** filesystem damage.
[19:57] <LucidDreamZzZ> hmm
[19:57] <Lanser> should I run fsck anyway?
[19:57] <Dr_willis> Lanser,    you dont fsck one thats IN USE.
[19:57] <Lanser> then?
[19:57] <God_> HELLO EVERYBODY
[19:57] <Dr_willis> fsck if its mounted read only, or if you are on a live cd.
[19:58] <Lanser> I think my filesystem is corrupted
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> God_, get a nick that is respectful.
[19:58] <Lanser> but I don't know what exactly is the problem.
[19:58] <God_> I AM BETTER THAN NOTCH, CREATOR OF MINECRAFT!
[19:58] <LucidDreamZzZ> stfu
[19:58] <God_> No
[19:58] <Dr_willis> Lanser,  then boot a live cd and fsck it. or i think you can fsck from the recovery console.
[19:58] <God_> Cuz I can make circles
[19:58] <LucidDreamZzZ> ok
[19:58] <LucidDreamZzZ> sorry my bad
[19:58] <God_> I CAN MAKE CIRCLES!
[19:58] <Lanser> dr_willis, right now, my distro is screwed up?
[19:58] <LucidDreamZzZ> ok ok
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> LucidDreamZzZ, I will let the ops know of you watch your language and attitude.
[19:59] <guntbert> God_: stop it please
[19:59] <God_> Wilee is a bitch
[19:59] <Dr_willis> Lanser,  you are sort of jumping to conclusions....
[19:59] <Lanser> dr_willis, when I connect a kingston-usb drive with some files in it, it doesn't show anything, no files no anything, /media is all empty.
[19:59] <adamk> Lanser: Or simply unmount the usb drive and run an fsck on it.
[19:59] <LucidDreamZzZ> wildc4rd, ok whatev
[19:59] <Dr_willis> Lanser,  again.. TRY MOUNTING the usb by hand, using the proper MOUNT command...
[19:59] <Lanser> dr_willis: how?
[20:00] <Dr_willis> Lanser,   and try fscking your / partition from a live cd, or recovery console to see if thers any errors
[20:00] <Lanser> I don't have a live cd.
[20:00] <Dr_willis> !mount I gave this to you earlier | Lanser
[20:00] <Lanser> dr_willis, how can I mount a usb?
[20:00] <Dr_willis> !mount | lanser  I gave this to you earlier
[20:00] <LucidDreamZzZ> fsck you
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> !ops | LucidDreamZzZ
[20:00] <LucidDreamZzZ> wildc4rd, chill
[20:01] <kelly_> guys , does geary mail support hotmail ?
[20:01] <Lanser> dr_willis: I am really annoyed, I think my distro is screwed or something
[20:01] <Lanser> this all happened suddenly
[20:01] <Lanser> it was working yesterday
[20:01] <Lanser> it just shutted down
[20:01] <guntbert> !enter | Lanser
[20:02] <Lanser> ill try to restart my computer...
[20:02] <Dr_willis> we offer suggestions.. and they get ignored..
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> yeah, fun huh.
[20:03] <kelly_> any idea guys ?
[20:04] <Dr_willis> check the geary homepage?
[20:04] <Dr_willis> hotmail had a pop3 support feature last i looked.. ages ago.
[20:06] <Lanser> I cannot use any USB.
[20:06] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, I get the pop yahoo in thunderbird by adding android to the server, lol
[20:06] <Lanser> I connected 2 different USBs, and nothing is popping up, like my distro isn't detecting them.
[20:06] <Lanser> although, lsusb shows it detected them
[20:06] <Lanser> but I cannot browse them
[20:06] <Lanser> also, /media is completely empty
[20:07] <IdleOne> Lanser: Please don't hit the enter key every 4 or 5 words
[20:07] <protocol> does ubuntu naturally run a little warm on laptops? I have bumblebee/bbswitch installed to handle my dedicated video, and even when my dedicated video is off, my laptop still runs semi warm (as compared to it running in windows) any thoughts?
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> protocol, install this and set up a conky or something to see actual temps. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> protocol, exact info is what you need
[20:10] <katanaya> protocol, i've found some extensions in chrome run like crap, might check out the system monitor to see if any processes are using a lot of CPU or RAM.
[20:11] <wilee-nilee> Lanser, Do thses usb show in other OS's linux is a bit finicky that partitions are not corrupted.
[20:11] <kelly_> guys i will buy new hdd and install it on my pc , if i format it as ext4 then where can i find it ? i mean i still use my hdd as ntfs and i don't use windows
[20:12] <LucidDreamZzZ> sorry if i offend anyone, young people please use nice civil language
[20:12] <auronandace> !partitioning | kelly_
[20:12] <LucidDreamZzZ> adrenaline goin
[20:13] <Lanzer> Guys, I am having a very severe problem.
[20:13] <Dr_willis> Lanser,  and for the 3rd time.. try mounting via the command line, using the proper mount commands.. its possible its just the gnome auto-mounting system thats having issues
[20:13] <wilee-nilee> !details > Lanzer
[20:13] <Lanzer> dr_willis, trash is not popping up
[20:13] <Lanzer> my filesystem is screwed up
[20:13] <Lanzer> mount cannot fix it
[20:13] <Lanzer> what's the main problem here?
[20:14] <Dr_willis> Lanzer,  then use the rcovery console or a live cd/usb and fsck yoru filesystem
[20:14] <Dr_willis> mount does not 'fix' currupted filesystems.
[20:14] <Dr_willis> and  you are confuseing 2 differnt issues. start with the fscking, then move on to the other issues
[20:14] <Lanzer> 1. When I connect any USB, nothing shows up, /media is empty, 2. I cannot add anything in my gnome-panels, 3. Nautilus says "cannot handle computer location"
[20:14] <Lanzer> dr_willis, I cannot enter any USB, and I don't have a live cd.
[20:15] <Lanzer> my system cannot detect anything
[20:15] <Lanzer> i am stuck
[20:15] <Dr_willis> Lanzer,  1) plug it in.. 2) read up on that !mount factoid. 3) see if it is in fact SEEN by  the dmesg output, 4) mount it via the command line to see if it works
[20:15] <Lanzer> mount what, dr_willis?
[20:15] <Dr_willis> your USB flash drive.
[20:15] <Lanzer> my whole entire distro cannot detect anything
[20:15] <Lanzer> and trash is gone
[20:15] <Lanzer> I rm'd /media
[20:16] <Lanzer> and my trash is gone, how can I restore it?
[20:16] <Dr_willis> so put it back?
[20:16] <Dr_willis> sudo mkdir /media/
[20:16] <Lanzer> I didn't rm it, I just pressed "remove"
[20:16] <Lanzer> how?
[20:16] <Lanzer> trash is gone
[20:16] <Lanzer> i cannot put trash back, nothing is popping up
[20:16] <Dr_willis> any would you rm /media in the first place.. you just trying random stuff?
[20:16] <FloodBot1> Lanzer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:16] <Dr_willis> Lanzer,  use the command line? you dont need the gui at all to  do this stuff.
[20:17]  * Dr_willis is not even sure HOW you would remove /media/ via the GUI.
[20:17] <Dr_willis> or if you even COULD do it as a user.
[20:17] <Lanser> ok, I did "mkdir media"
[20:18] <Dr_willis> that was NOT the command i gave.
[20:18] <Lanser> the question is, how can I make my system detect USBs? and how to fix nautilus? it says "nautilus cannot handle computer location"
[20:18] <Dr_willis>  media and /media are 2 very differnt things  depending on where you are at.
[20:18] <Dr_willis> Lanser,  again.. PLUG IN THE USB FLASH.. run 'dmesg' and verify if it is or is not seen..
[20:19] <Dr_willis> system detecting USB's and gnomes auto-mounting is broken are 2 very differnt 'issues'
[20:19] <Lanser> [  948.734870] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[20:19] <Lanser> [  948.734877] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00
[20:19] <Lanser> [  948.735868] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: disabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
[20:19] <Lanser> [  948.751061]  sdb: sdb1
[20:19] <Lanser> [  948.757618] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[20:19] <FloodBot1> Lanser: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:19] <Dr_willis> there you go.. the SYSTEm does in fact see the USB at sdb1
[20:20] <Dr_willis> sudo mount /dev/sdb1  /media/MAKEADIRCYTORYFORITTOGOINTOFIRST      would mount it.
[20:20] <Lanser> yes now it worked
[20:21] <protocol> hm I guess its not as hot as it feels... the 'sensors' command showed an avg of about 57C
[20:21]  * wilee-nilee turns down their hearing aid
[20:21] <RavAngell> hey guys help me. I've a trouble. I simple want to install john the ripper program in my debian wheezy. I do: sudo apt-get install john. Everything looks like ok. Installation made successful. After that I simply try to execute command: john, but it says: "bash: john: command not found". Even $man john working, but simple typing  john doesnt. What I can do?
[20:21] <Dr_willis> RavAngell,  you mean to be asking in #debian perhaps?
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> RavAngell, For debial see their channel.
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> debian*
[20:21] <RavAngell> thanks
[20:22] <Dr_willis> bash has some rehash/rescan command to rescan the paths to see whats there also..
[20:22] <Lanser> dr_willis, "fat read failed"
[20:22] <Lanser> dr_willis: http://pastebin.com/WPywsFCy
[20:22] <Lanser> http://pastebin.com/WPywsFCy <--- is my distro entirely screwed up?
[20:23] <Dr_willis> Lanser,  and where/what filesystem is on this usb?
[20:23] <Dr_willis> Lanser,  you seem to want to be convinced its 'screwed up'  - so just reinstall if you really really want to keep pushing that idea.
[20:23] <Lanser> I need to fix my current distro.
[20:23] <Lanser> how can I?
[20:24] <Dr_willis> start by running a fsck from the resue/recovery mode - if you think your filesystems are currupted.
[20:24] <Lanser> how can I do that?
[20:24] <Lanser> how can I enter recovery mode?
[20:24] <Dr_willis> its an entry on the grub menu at boot time
[20:24] <adamk> Lanser: What you pasted above does not indicate any problem with your distribution.  the filesystem on your USB device is hosed.
[20:25] <Lanser> adamk: my distro has a few problems now too, it cannot detect USBs all by itself, and it still keeps showing "??" and "usb" even though /media is empty
[20:26] <Lanser> also nautilus says "cannot handle computer location"
[20:26] <adamk> I don't know what you mean by "cannot detect USBs" but all those "FAT-fs (sdb1): Directory bread(block 505) failed" errors show that your filesystem on that device is broken.
[20:26] <Dr_willis>  /media/  shows MOUNTED devices/filesystems.. if none are mounted.. then it would be empty.
[20:27] <Dr_willis> if it cant mount it.. then it wont show up in /media/
[20:27] <Lanser> how can I enter recovery mode?
[20:27] <Dr_willis> its an entry on the grub menu at boot time   ......
[20:28] <Lanser> how can I get the grub menu?
[20:28] <Dr_willis> or make a live-usb/cd     its alwyas a good idea to have one handy
[20:28] <Dr_willis> boot up.. you should see the grub menu.
[20:28] <Lanser> I use compaq.
[20:28] <Dr_willis> or hold SHIFT if its hidden by default
[20:29] <Dr_willis> !recovery
[20:29] <Dr_willis> old factoid. ;)
[20:29] <Dr_willis> Or is it called 'rescue mode' these days? they keep changeing the names.
[20:29] <theadmin> Dr_willis: Nope, "recovery mode" still
[20:30] <Lanser> dr_willis, I cannot install Ubuntu again right now, how can I use my current one to make one?
[20:31] <aninha> Oiiee
[20:31] <Dr_willis> you can make a live-usb/cd from  your Ubuntu OS of course.. if you have the iso downloaded...
[20:31] <Lanser> like, how can I use my current distro to make up a install cd?
[20:31] <Lanser> I don't have any iso downloaded...
[20:31] <Dr_willis> for fscking, you might want to use a smaller live disrto  like the system rescue live cd.
[20:31] <Dr_willis> Lanser,  then you download the iso...
[20:31] <kelly_> is there any difference in performance if i partition the hdd to 5 partitions or just make it 1 partition ?
[20:31] <Dr_willis> kelly_,  cant say ive ever noticed any differance.
[20:32] <kelly_> thank u Dr_willis
[20:32] <Dr_willis> ages ago people woule argud about how one 'end'  of the HD is faster then the other.. but these days - most people dont  care. ;)
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> kelly_, A single HD has 4 primaries total or 3 and a extended for logicals.
[20:32] <Dr_willis>  /  swap and /home  is about all  i use.
[20:33] <zykotic10> kelly_: wilee-nilee with GPT you can have as many primary as you want... just sayin.
[20:33] <Lanser> If I download a .iso of a distro, how can I install it without burning it to a usb or a cd?
[20:33] <Dr_willis> Lanser,  easier to put it on cd/usb
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> kelly_, Make sure you understand the limitations and types of partitions allowed otherwise you may make your partitions dynamic.
[20:34] <aninha> Oii tudo bem?
[20:34] <lauratika> is there a way to not use adobe flash in ubuntu 12.04
[20:34] <Lanser> dr_willis; I can't do that.
[20:34] <Dr_willis> Lanser,  since i imagine setting up grub2 to boot an ISO file - is going to be beyond your skill level
[20:34] <Lanser> so how can I do it without usb/cd?
[20:34] <LucidDreamZzZ> !pxe
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> zykotic10, Yes I know, however hardly anyone here knows what a msdos setup HD is.
[20:34] <Lanser> oh
[20:34] <kelly_> thank you guys so much for the information , i appreciate it
[20:34] <LucidDreamZzZ> i installed with pxe
[20:34] <zykotic10> wilee-nilee: probably true ;)
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> zykotic10, I know the regulars do. ;)
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> lauratika, There is the restricted-extras or the plugin
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> lauratika, Sorry my bad there is gnash and another.
[20:36] <lauratika> what you rekon is better?
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> lauratika, NOt sure I just use adobe.
[20:36] <Dr_willis> given how gnash 'barely' works... ;)
[20:36] <jackw411> evening guys, having a bit of trouble. I'm trying to install lessc on node package manager on this ubuntu machine. Got as far as installing it, when I type 'lessc' into terminal it comes back with suggested usage, when I make it compile the less file in the terminal window, it outputs fine, however, if I try and output the result to a file, both sudo and normal user get permission denied. set the folder executable, changed ownership to root, what else
[20:37] <lauratika> wilee-nilee		
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> lauratika, yes
[20:37] <lauratika> wilee-nile: thanx, Dr_willis: gnash not good?
[20:38] <Dr_willis> lauratika,  if 'barely works' is good enough for you.
[20:38] <theadmin> lauratika: Just "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer" and you'll get Adobe Flash
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> lauratika, The open source flash are well, problematic in general, depends on your tolerance I suppose.
[20:38] <lauratika> Dr_willis: no is not...
[20:38] <theadmin> lauratika: That works the best...
[20:38] <lauratika> theadmin: i dont want to, but thanx.
[20:39] <theadmin> lauratika: Well... That's really the only bearable implementation of Flash. That does work.
[20:39] <lauratika> theadmin. i see
[20:41] <f00bar80> autoconf issue >> http://pastebay.com/1257240 , any idea what's wrong ?
[20:41] <Dr_willis> of course it depends on what you need flash for. ;) there may be alternatives for special cases
[20:41] <sarcasticsimba> *sigh* I installed some Virtualbox guest utilities and now the VM won't boot.
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> sarcasticsimba, Have you checked at #vbox
[20:43] <sarcasticsimba>  wilee-nilee: Not yet, I'll give it a look!
[20:46] <Lanser> dr_willis: how can I mount this usb? http://pastebin.com/5u8nNit0
[20:46] <Lanser> what's the /dev/sd*?
[20:46] <ambedzijus> HEY FLOOD BOTS
[20:47] <lauratika> shu shu!!
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> su, su, sudoing
[20:47] <ambedzijus> MAYBE SOMONE  HAS KEYLOGGER?
[20:48] <ph4sm4> hello
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> hi need support?
[20:50] <ph4sm4> can someone check this out and maybe help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2162935
[20:50] <guntbert> !here | ph4sm4
[20:52] <ph4sm4> well I'm trying to compile my OTserver with the command "cmake .." and I get an error that I don't know how to fix
[20:52] <f00bar80> ppl any comment ?
[20:52] <adamk> ph4sm4: Do you have the libboost and libgmp development packages installed?
[20:52] <eddygordo> hallo
[20:53] <guntbert> hi eddygordo , Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:53] <eddygordo> yes
[20:53] <ph4sm4> @adamk I think so
[20:53] <ph4sm4> I think I downloaded them but it also says I need some GMP file
[20:53] <ph4sm4> Or something like that
[20:54] <eddygordo> i tried to find an italian server but dont work
[20:54] <adamk> ph4sm4: It's a yes or no question :-)  And it's easy enough to determine if the packages are installed with dpkg.
[20:54] <k1l> !it > eddygordo
[20:54] <adamk> ph4sm4: And you shouldn't need to manually download them...  You would use synaptic or apt-get to install them.
[20:55] <eddygordo> thanks
[20:55] <ph4sm4> Yes i did use "sudo apt-get install" but not sure if exactly those files
[20:56] <client> Hello
[20:56] <adamk> ph4sm4: Make sure libboost-dev and libgmp-dev are installed.
[20:56] <client> Can an OS affect the wifi connection?
[20:56] <f00bar80> autoconf issue >> http://pastebay.com/1257240 , any idea what's wrong ?
[20:57] <Enviious> ^
[20:57] <Enviious> The man.
[20:57] <f00bar80> aptitude says i'm using the last version of autoconf
[20:57] <client> can you explain the issue? f00bar80
[20:57] <FroMaster> Anyone know sed? I just can't seem to get the hang of it. I need to search through a file '/tmp/file.log' and replace the word 'FAILED' with 'SUCCESS'
[20:59] <f00bar80> client, autoconf is throughing this error in paste above , i don't what;s wrong with it .. i've tried to run cross-compiler config script
[20:59] <Jagst3r15> anyone here know how to use git-cola
[20:59] <f00bar80> client, and that's the error i got , even when tried autocong -v , got the same error as above
[21:00] <protocol> is 70C a concerning temp when using dedicated video processor?
[21:00] <jrib> FroMaster: and what did you try?
[21:00] <adamk> f00bar80: What version of autoconf is installed?
[21:00] <client> Jagst3r15 are you using the git-cola GUI?
[21:00] <ph4sm4> @adamk Nope they weren't installed, will see if the server works now :)
[21:00] <Jagst3r15> client yes
[21:01] <client> do you know how git works? Jagst3r15
[21:01] <jrib> f00bar80: what are you building?
[21:01] <FroMaster> sed -i 's/FAILED/SUCCESS/' /tmp/file.log
[21:01] <Jagst3r15> sort of
[21:01] <client> protocol fahrenheit?
[21:01] <protocol> celcius
[21:01] <jrib> FroMaster: that will only change the first instance of FAILED on each line.  Add 'g' after the last slash to make it do all instances
[21:01] <f00bar80> jrib, 2.65
[21:02] <lauratika> i can't understand very well how encryting keys works, i alreday create a pair of keys. what should i backup in case this pc gets broken or stollen?
[21:02] <client> Is the processor heating up that much? protocol
[21:02] <jrib> f00bar80: you are building 2.65?  2.65 of *what*?
[21:02] <client> Jagst3r15 the principal should be the same for git-cola. Have you read the documentation?
[21:02] <ph4sm4> I still get an error tough @adamk. LuaJIT do u know if I can install that?
[21:02] <protocol> client: yea (this is a laptop) and this is during gameplay
[21:02] <Jagst3r15> yea
[21:02] <Jagst3r15> I have staged my commits and then pushed to origin
[21:02] <Jagst3r15> nothing happens on github ;(
[21:03] <protocol> or anything that requires the dedicated video processor for graphics
[21:03] <f00bar80> jrib, the autoconf is version 2.65 , i'm trying to build crosstool-ng
[21:03] <Jagst3r15> even though it says success
[21:03] <client> lauratika back up all your information. I doubt most common thieves will know how linux works
[21:03] <adamk> jrib: You have version 2.65 of autoconf installed...  The program you requires 2.67.  Clearly you need a newer version of autoconf.
[21:03] <jrib> f00bar80: see what adamk just said
[21:03] <adamk> f00bar80:  You will either need to find a PPA with a newer version, install a newer version manually yourself, or upgrade Ubuntu.
[21:03] <adamk> jrib: Sorry about that :-)
[21:03] <lauratika> client: not just thieves, but if the HD dies...
[21:03] <client> you probably need to setup a secure connection to GitHub Jagst3r15
[21:03] <BenjaminRH> hey guys. I'm having very weird results after a fresh install dual boot 13.04/windows 8
[21:03] <Jagst3r15> I have sir
[21:03] <f00bar80> adamk, apt-get install autoconf >> autoconf is already the newest version.
[21:04] <adamk> f00bar80: Right, which is why I gave you the options I gave you.
[21:04] <client> lauratika: back up everything. HDDs dont die soon, unless you bought a terrible make.
[21:04] <BenjaminRH> Computer occasionally boots to grub, and after selecting ubuntu in grub it goes to a black screen. Mostly, it skips grub and just goes to the black screen. I just tried closing the computer lid, then opening it again, and now the black screen changed to the normal logins creen
[21:04] <Jagst3r15> I cloned the repo, added my files into, staged them, added a commit message and then pushed then client
[21:04] <jrib> f00bar80: what ubuntu version are you using?
[21:05] <client> nothing happened? Jagst3r15
[21:05] <lauratika> client: doesnt matter what ever happens, then what should i backup in terms of keys?
[21:06] <client> Are you referring to the SSH keys? lauratika
[21:06] <f00bar80> jrib, 10.04
[21:06] <jrib> f00bar80: you are aware 10.04 is no longer supported on the desktop?
[21:07] <MariusIT> any ideea how to bypass this "libssl-doc : Breaks: libssl-dev (< 1.0.0) but 0.9.8o-4squeeze14 is installed
[21:07] <MariusIT> " ?
[21:07] <Jagst3r15> client no :(
[21:07] <jrib> f00bar80: as a bonus, for upgrading to the latest LTS (12.04), you'll receive free access to a version of autoconf greater than 2.67 ;)
[21:07] <ph4sm4> I got a problem I installed luajit but I still get the error "Could NOT find LuaJIT (missing: LUAJIT_LIBRARY LUAJIT_INCLUDE_DIR)"
[21:07] <mercuryrising__> why would ubuntu be mounting all my harddrives as read only? They're being mounted as dr-x------ with my user as the owner?
[21:07] <BenjaminRH> wtf. Now I login (having closed and opened the lid to see the screen), and select the "Brightness and Lock" system setting. The screen goes dark again
[21:08] <wilee-nilee> !language | benjamino
[21:08] <wilee-nilee> BenjaminRH,  ^^^^
[21:08] <BenjaminRH> sorry
[21:08] <wilee-nilee> sorry benjamino
[21:08] <f00bar80> jrib, can i upgrade to 12.04 ?
[21:08] <BenjaminRH> lol
[21:08] <jrib> f00bar80: indeed, see ubottu
[21:08] <BenjaminRH> Now I close and open the lid again, and the screen is displaying again
[21:08] <jrib> !upgrade | f00bar80
[21:09] <lauratika> client: yes
[21:09] <client> ok lauratika, it seems that you can backup your ssh keys.
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> f00bar80, What release are you running as far a as a update from?
[21:09] <client> lauratika see here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/88712/how-do-i-backup-ssh-keys
[21:10] <wad> Is there a way to scan a QR code on my screen, with the OS? It goes to a URL, I'd like to browse to it.
[21:10] <f00bar80> wilee-nilee. 10.04
[21:11] <euxneks> wad, totally, here is a link describing how to do it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22871/software-to-read-a-qr-code
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> !eol | f00bar80 end of life has specific upgrade parameters.
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> f00bar80, I assume this is a desktop, not a server
[21:12] <lauratika> client: lets say i encrypt a file then uploaded to ubuntu one, then from another pc download the file, wjhat i need in order to read such a file?
[21:12] <client> you need to pair the SSH keys lauratika
[21:12] <f00bar80> jrib, is there no way to upgrade from the command line?
[21:12] <trism> ph4sm4: did you install libluajit-5.1-dev (or whatever version is in your ubuntu)
[21:12] <lauratika> client: how can i pair my keys...
[21:12] <ryan95> Hello guys, how do I free up space and my laptop's H.d.D
[21:13] <ryan95> *H.d.D
[21:13] <jrib> f00bar80: there is, it's in the page ubottu linked (look for server upgrade instructions)
[21:13] <f00bar80> jrib, also i want to machine that i only have 1 G of RAM
[21:13] <ryan95> *H.D.D
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> f00bar80, The eol is a command line upgrade read the bots message.
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> f00bar80, This a server?
[21:14] <wilee-nilee> If a server than it is not eol
[21:14] <f00bar80> wilee-nilee, a desktop, but have only ssh access
[21:14] <Jagst3r15> client this is boggling my min
[21:14] <Jagst3r15> mind
[21:16] <euxneks> ryan95, deleting things off your HDD will help free up space. If you want a graphical interface that tells you where the larger files/folders are, try gnome's Disk Usage Utility
[21:16] <euxneks> also known as baobab
[21:17] <ryan95> euxneks: Okay, thanks
[21:17] <adamk> ph4sm4: When building programs from source, you need to make sure you have the necessary -dev packages installed.  They are not installed by default.
[21:19] <Dr_willis> if the program is in the repos, in an older version, the    'sudo apt-get build-deps packagename' can pull in all needed deps i recall to compile the program
[21:20] <Jagst3r15> client oh my god
[21:20] <Jagst3r15> I did not push the button in the left side that says commit -____-
[21:20] <Jagst3r15> it works now :D
[21:21] <ph4sm4> I know I need the right dev packs installed but i don't know what they are named! If I want to install sqlite what im i supposed to write? "sudo apt-get install sqlite
[21:21] <Dr_willis> ph4sm4,  you are trying to recompile sqlite?
[21:21] <afelipesierrar> hi everybody
[21:21] <Dr_willis> !info sqlite
[21:21] <ph4sm4> no I need to install it
[21:21] <mastershake> hey guys im trying to complile something from the source, i installed the proper libraries needed for it, but when i run make, it stops. i took a screenshot of it- http://i.imgur.com/MOUu4ab.png
[21:22] <Dr_willis> ph4sm4,  then why do you need the -dev packages?
[21:22] <adamk> ph4sm4: That's why there are tools like synaptic to help you search through pcakages.
[21:22] <ph4sm4> Im missing it but i dont know the command to install
[21:22] <adamk> Dr_willis: He's compiling something else.
[21:22] <ikonia> ph4sm4: what are you actually trying to build ?
[21:22] <Dr_willis> ph4sm4,  apt-get has tab completion for package names
[21:23] <mastershake> *compile
[21:23] <ph4sm4> Oh im trying to build a tibia server and the only last step is to "cmake .." but i keep getting errors
[21:23] <mastershake> can anybody tell from the screenshot what the issue is?
[21:23] <Dr_willis> !find tibia
[21:24] <afelipesierrar> I have a problem, I installed Ubuntu in virtualbox(while learning the basics) and i can not see the usb archives
[21:24] <Dr_willis> mastershake,  you may want to pastebin text. not images of text. ;)
[21:24] <ikonia> someone needs to make a package of that
[21:24] <ph4sm4> Im going after this tutorial https://github.com/opentibia/server/wiki/Compiling-OTServ-under-Linux-systems
[21:25] <ikonia> there is no OT server package, it needs an MOT request, i'ts not the first time I've seen this request
[21:25] <ikonia> ph4sm4: don't pull from git - use a stable release.
[21:25] <Dr_willis> afelipesierrar,  usb archives? You mean usb flash drives?
[21:26] <afelipesierrar> yes Dr willis
[21:26] <mastershake> Dr_willis: http://pastebin.com/Gdtu7EQW
[21:26] <Dr_willis> afelipesierrar,   theres extra packages to install to enable that feature i recall
[21:26] <ph4sm4> So do anyone know a good tutorial for starting a tibia server on linux? cause I spent 4 hours one night and git was the best one I found
[21:26] <Dr_willis> !vbox | afelipesierrar
[21:26] <ikonia> ph4sm4: you can still use those instructions, just don't download from git, download a stable release
[21:26] <Dr_willis> afelipesierrar,  then extra things you have to do in the settings. its mentioned in the manual i belive
[21:26] <k1l> afelipesierrar: did you install the guest additions?
[21:27] <afelipesierrar> No yet
[21:27] <k1l> do it
[21:27] <afelipesierrar> ok, thanks so much guys
[21:27] <San1ty> is there any way of making a mysql script work with sqlite? some kind of compatibility layer?
[21:27] <Dr_willis> master_of_master,  just a guess - but the code looks in correct. ->   ./arpspoof.c:49:6: error: too many arguments to function 'libnet_get_hwaddr'
[21:27] <k1l> and you need to make the vbox giving the usb-port to ubuntu.
[21:28] <ph4sm4> Alright, but can anyone tell me how to install sqlite dev package?
[21:28] <Dr_willis> !info sqlite-dev
[21:29] <Dr_willis> apt-cache search sqlite dev    - and determine its package name
[21:31] <ph4sm4> THANKS FINALLY
[21:31] <ph4sm4> It works
[21:31] <ph4sm4> LOVE ALL OF U
[21:31] <mastershake> so nobody can make sense of this? http://pastebin.com/Gdtu7EQW
[21:32] <ikonia> mastershake: 1.) what are you trying to build 2.) why are you root !!!!
[21:35] <euxneks> mastershake, I think you're trying to compile something with libs and development libraries that are older(or newer) than the software expects?
[21:35] <euxneks> is dsniff not available in a repo somewhere?
[21:35] <ikonia> euxneks: yes, a function from pcap by the looks of it
[21:36] <trism> !info dsniff
[21:36] <trism> a newer version even
[21:36] <ikonia> I suspect this isn't ubuntu
[21:36] <mastershake> ikonia: dsniff
[21:37] <mastershake> euxneks: just ran an apt-get update, lets see what happens
[21:37] <ikonia> mastershake: 1.) what version of ubuntu 2.) dsniff is in the ubutu repos
[21:37] <ikonia> mastershake: apt-get update wo'nt do anything
[21:37] <k1l> mastershake: are you running root? or is it backtrack or kali?
[21:37] <ikonia> mastershake: this is not ubuntu
[21:37] <mastershake> ikonia: Linux chrubuntu 3.4.0 #1 SMP Wed Jul 3 23:12:07 PDT 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[21:37] <ikonia> mastershake: is this ubuntu
[21:38] <mastershake> k1l: i am root and i am not running kali/bt
[21:38] <ikonia> I do'nt think it is
[21:38] <ikonia> mastershake: I don't think this is an official ubuntu release.
[21:38] <euxneks> oh, chromebook ubuntu
[21:38] <ikonia> mastershake: what is it ??
[21:38] <mastershake> chromebook ubuntu
[21:38] <ikonia> is this an official release ?
[21:38] <ikonia> I don't see it on ubuntu.com
[21:39] <euxneks> i686 though. mastershake, try sudo apt-get install dsniff
[21:39] <cipherboy> ikonia, If I read google correctly, it is a script to install official Ubuntu/Kubuntu/etc.
[21:39] <ikonia> that kernel isn't an official release though
[21:40] <ikonia> and hence "root"
[21:40] <ikonia> mastershake: you know you shouldn't be compiling as root ?
[21:40] <cipherboy> True.
[21:40] <mastershake> ikonia: why is that?
[21:40] <ikonia> mastershake: because it opens security holes
[21:40] <euxneks> mastershake, try "sudo apt-get install dsniff"
[21:40] <ikonia> euxneks: does it point at the official ubuntu repos ?
[21:40] <mastershake> its working now, thanks for the help guys.
[21:41] <euxneks> hahah
[21:41] <euxneks> wut
[21:41] <BenjaminRH> The special function keys (FN+F--) are all screwed up on my fresh install of Ubuntu 13.04. Anybody know how to change that?
[21:41] <euxneks> ikonia, I'm not sure of that but I think chrubuntu (chrome book ubuntu) just installs ubuntu on a chrome book
[21:41] <ikonia> euxneks: I do'nt think it does - look at the kernel
[21:45] <euxneks> ikonia, yeah weird, the chrome ubuntu script is supposed to just download from the ubuntu mirrors according to here: http://chromeos-cr48.blogspot.ca/2013/05/chrubuntu-one-script-to-rule-them-all_31.html
[21:45] <ikonia> I suspect more has happened to this install
[21:45] <euxneks> "To make all of this possible, I've rewritten the ChrUbuntu script to pull packages directly from official ubuntu.com sources rather than utilizing my own pre-configured, static image of an Ubuntu installation."
[21:46] <euxneks> ikonia, I bet you're right
[21:46] <bla> Hello.
[21:46] <ph4sm4> I get a error when I try starting the server..
[21:46] <cipherboy> ikonia, I just got the script, looking through the source seems that it replaces ubuntu's kernel with google's kernel for chromebooks.
[21:46] <GoddeR> If an object named limbs embeds two other objects called foot and hand and they each have the method Pinky. when limbs.Pinky is called what happens?
[21:46] <bla> I can't get direct answer on web - are Ubuntu CD Install images pendrive-bootable if simply written with dd?
[21:47] <ikonia> cipherboy: interesting
[21:47] <ph4sm4> anyone know what this could be?  Error: Unable to load config.lua
[21:47] <ikonia> GoddeR: this isn't an ubuntu question
[21:47] <GoddeR> oh
[21:47] <ikonia> ph4sm4: it can't load that file - is it there ?
[21:47] <GoddeR> wrong channel..
[21:47] <GoddeR> sorry
[21:48] <k1l> bla yes
[21:48] <cipherboy> ikonia, euxneks see: http://pastebin.com/MGijzBMB
[21:49] <euxneks> ph4sm4, it could also be that hte file is not readable, check the permissions if it's there.
[21:49] <bla> k1l, thanks.
[21:49] <Guerrilla_> can anybody help me install UO razor in wine
[21:49] <Guerrilla_> i mean i have it installed
[21:49] <ph4sm4> Its not there
[21:49] <Guerrilla_> butwhen i double click the icon, it does nothing
[21:49] <ikonia> ph4sm4: there you go,
[21:49] <cipherboy> ikonia, euxneks also notice around 268 it does some kernel module stuff.
[21:49] <ph4sm4> but I have no idea where it is and why it would be located there
[21:50] <ikonia> cipherboy: don't trust this - not official build
[21:50] <ikonia> ph4sm4: read the docs
[21:50] <euxneks> cipherboy, interesting
[21:50] <ph4sm4> i have one file named config.lua.dist
[21:50] <cipherboy> ikonia, Good to know for future reference though.
[21:50] <ikonia> cipherboy: very good yes, thank you
[21:51] <ikonia> ph4sm4: ok, so the docs probbly tell you to rename that, have you actually read them ?
[21:51] <cipherboy> np
[21:51] <k1l> !wine | Guerrilla_
[21:51] <BenjaminRH> anybody know of an up-to-date ppa for nvidia Geoforce?
[21:51] <ph4sm4> there is no docs
[21:51] <k1l> BenjaminRH: do you really need a uptodate nvidia?
[21:52] <BenjaminRH> I don't have the drivers at all currently
[21:52] <k1l> BenjaminRH: what is wrong with the nvidia drivers that ship with ubuntu?
[21:52] <k1l> !nvidia | BenjaminRH
[21:52] <cipherboy> ph4sm4, 1) what server? 2) tried copying config.lua.dist to config.lua and trying/modifying/etc that?
[21:52] <BenjaminRH> hmm
[21:52] <BenjaminRH> the proprietary ones are better, surely?
[21:52] <ikonia> BenjaminRH: they are the proprtiary ones
[21:53] <ikonia> BenjaminRH: I'm shocked you don't know this - but you know to try to look for a PPA
[21:53] <BenjaminRH> I don't see any proprietary ones in the software place
[21:53] <jacta> Does anyone knows how to disable touchpad when writing? Can't remember it :\
[21:53] <cipherboy> BenjaminRH, the nvidia-<version number> are the proprietary ones... Assuming you have them installed and not nouveau, you should be using them.
[21:54] <BenjaminRH> cipherboy: that's the thing -- I can't find them. It's a fresh install of ubuntu 13.04, but they're not listed
[21:54] <cipherboy> jacta, should be in gnome-settings (if you are using gnome/unity), I forget exactly where, but either under keyboard, mouse, or touchpad.
[21:54] <cipherboy> BenjaminRH, `dpkg --list | grep nvdia` (without backticks) should list them.
[21:55] <cipherboy> *nvidia
[21:55] <BenjaminRH> cipherboy: I'll try that now, but shouldn't they be listed in the software and updates gui under additional drivers?
[21:55] <ikonia> optimus video card ? running in intel mode
[21:55] <BenjaminRH> yep
[21:55] <ikonia> ahhh there we go
[21:55] <ikonia> optimus card
[21:56] <BenjaminRH> cipherboy: yeah, dpkg didn't turn anything up
[21:56] <BenjaminRH> ikonia: oh?
[21:56] <cipherboy> ikonia, What is the story with those?
[21:56] <ikonia> BenjaminRH: is this an optimus card ?
[21:56] <BenjaminRH> yes
[21:56] <BenjaminRH> ikonia: what does that mean for what I need to do to get that working?
[21:56] <ikonia> cipherboy: they suck and don't work
[21:56] <BenjaminRH> lol
[21:56] <euxneks> haha
[21:56] <ikonia> BenjaminRH: there is software called "bumblebee" to allow you to switch, however I find it a weak solution for a weak implementation of a solution
[21:57] <euxneks> I think the latest nvidia drivers support it don't they?
[21:57] <BenjaminRH> eh, yes if by "optimus card" you mean a geoforce nvidia card with optimus support
[21:57] <ikonia> euxneks: not really no
[21:57] <BenjaminRH> i thought optimus was just the thing that switched it automatically between the integrated and the dedicated card?
[21:57] <ikonia> euxneks: it's not the support, it's the switching that fails
[21:57] <ikonia> hence why he can't see an nvidia card now
[21:57] <BenjaminRH> ah
[21:57] <euxneks> gurgle
[21:57] <Dr_willis> Nvidia has promised to have better support.. ;)   but we have seen nvidia and ati make such promises in the past also.
[21:57] <Jagst3r15> what package handles font rendering in ubuntu?
[21:58] <BenjaminRH> ikonia: so should I go download the drivers from geoforce.com, or try bumblebee?
[21:58] <ikonia> BenjaminRH: I don't mean to be negative about this but my view is pick either intel or nvidia mode - set it if possilbe, then use that as a "static" card
[21:58] <ikonia> BenjaminRH: do not download anything from nvidia.com (don't know why you are looking at geoforce.com)
[21:58] <k1l> BenjaminRH: stop that windows thinking, that you need to download stuff from anywhere on the internet
[21:59] <BenjaminRH> ikonia: because geoforce.com has nvidia geoforce linux drivers ;)
[21:59] <k1l> BenjaminRH: did you acutally read that link the bot gave you?
[21:59] <subcool> how do you dd a directory to make an exactly copy of it
[21:59] <BenjaminRH> k1l: I've just switched to ubuntu after several years with crunchbang and arch, but this is my first time with a separate graphics card
[21:59] <cipherboy> Jagst3r15, not entirely sure, try either libt1-5, linxfont1, or libxft2 perhaps? sorry, not familiar.
[21:59] <subcool> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DriveImaging isnt working for me
[21:59] <ikonia> BenjaminRH: err it appears to be a mining technology website
[21:59] <euxneks> BenjaminRH, I hope you mean geforce.com?
[21:59] <subcool> im moving my home directory.
[21:59] <BenjaminRH> err
[22:00] <BenjaminRH> yes
[22:00] <BenjaminRH> i do mean geforce
[22:00] <BenjaminRH> lol
[22:00] <BenjaminRH> thanks
[22:00] <FloodBot1> BenjaminRH: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:00] <leo_31> MSPs don’t have unlimited budgets for capital expenditures and therefore must invest wisely
[22:00] <leo_31> in developing next-generation solutions.
[22:00] <ikonia> BenjaminRH: nvidia.com for nvida projects - but you shouldn't get anything from there anyway
[22:00] <k1l> BenjaminRH: a ubuntu rule of thumb: first take whats in the official repos
[22:00] <Jagst3r15> cipherboy text is somewhat blurry and its not me :c
[22:00] <ikonia> leo_31: do you have an ubuntu quetion/issue ?
[22:00] <BenjaminRH> k1l: I just checked nodejs from the official repos -- it's several versions behind
[22:00] <Jagst3r15> I keep messing with packages though maybe I shouldn't do that ;p
[22:01] <leo_31> i missed a job interview by phone yesterday. i called today and they sort of agreed that there were some technical problems and thats why we couldnt make it. i asked them to rearrange it. today i didnt get an email. where they lying?
[22:01] <cipherboy> Jagst3r15, looked into graphics driver perhaps?
[22:01] <ikonia> leo_31: do you have an ubuntu quetion/issue ?
[22:01] <k1l> BenjaminRH: again: do you _need_ the latest? i really mean _need_ and not "but i want it"
[22:01] <Jagst3r15> yeah I am investigating now sir
[22:01] <Jagst3r15> I was adding bumblebee
[22:01] <Jagst3r15> and something got borked
[22:01] <BenjaminRH> k1l: for nodejs, yes. For the drivers, no I don't :)
[22:02] <cipherboy> Jagst3r15, that is likely your issue, work backwards from there.
[22:02] <Jagst3r15> k thanks
[22:02] <Jagst3r15> and yes I realize I am creating these issues xD
[22:03] <cipherboy> Speaking of drivers questions, I might as well bring one up... Running on an old dell inspiron 8600 (don't ask why...) has GeForce4 Ti 4200 Go AGP 8x a1 graphics card, never gotten it to work on anything higher than 10.04 due to it requiring the nvidia-96 package. Anyway to get it to run on something newer?
[22:04] <ikonia> cipherboy: support got dropped didn't it ?
[22:04] <subcool> subcool@AMDServer:/media$ dd if=/home/subcool/ of=/media/_home/subcool conv=noerror,sync bs=1024
[22:04] <subcool> dd: opening `/media/_home/subcool': Is a directory
[22:04] <cipherboy> nouveau doesn't support the higher resolution that the monitor supports; moves off the bottom of the screen. Oh, and correction: spare computer is that, not other ones.
[22:04] <ikonia> subcool: you dd to a block device, not a mount
[22:04] <k1l> cipherboy: nvidia drops the support for old cards. solution is to use the free driver
[22:04] <cipherboy> ikonia, iirc, yes to both 10.04 desktop and nvidia-96.
[22:05] <ikonia> cipherboy: you're going to have pain then
[22:05] <cipherboy> Figured as much, tried it briefly from official nvidia, but that failed badly...
[22:06] <BenjaminRH> hmm
[22:06] <subcool> ikonia, i've done it before.. - but how do i do it?
[22:06] <ikonia> subcool: done what before ?
[22:06] <subcool> use dd to clone my home.
[22:06] <subcool> its going to its own drive, so- i can use sdc6
[22:06] <ikonia> subcool: your output needs to be a file
[22:07] <ikonia> subcool: sorry what ?
[22:07] <ikonia> subcool: what are you trying to do ?
[22:07] <subcool> clone my home directory
[22:07] <subcool> im moving it
[22:07] <ikonia> subcool: why are you using DD
[22:07] <subcool> its getting its own partitions
[22:07] <ikonia> that's a terrible solution
[22:07] <subcool> mae sure i get everything
[22:07] <ikonia> it's a very bad idea
[22:07] <ikonia> it's a block copy
[22:07] <ikonia> you want a file system copy
[22:08] <subcool> ikonia, ok... what do you suggest
[22:08] <ikonia> subcool: just tar it up
[22:08] <ikonia> subcool: or copy it somewhere safe
[22:08] <ikonia> dd is a bad idea for what you want
[22:08] <subcool> im not creating a backup
[22:08] <ikonia> subcool: what are you doing then ?
[22:09] <cipherboy> subcool, eg: cp  -prv /home/subcool /new/home
[22:09] <subcool> whatever works..
[22:09] <subcool> i just want EVERYTHING moved
[22:09] <cipherboy> subcool, cp copies versus moves of course, -p to preserve permissions, -r to recursively copy, and -v to be verbose (list everything it is copying)
[22:10] <subcool> i was just about to ask that
[22:10] <subcool> thans
[22:10] <cipherboy> As long as you do it on the folder level and not do something like /home/subcool/* (where * would target only visible directories), you will be fine.
[22:10] <pozori> is Unity in 12.04.2 fixed so that it is actually usable?
[22:10] <ikonia> pozori: that is a weak question
[22:10] <leo_31> i missed a job interview by phone yesterday. i called today and they sort of agreed that there were some technical problems and thats why we couldnt make it. i asked them to rearrange it. today i didnt get an email. where they lying?
[22:11] <ikonia> pozori: it's usable for most people - so why do't you ask abou tthe issue you want
[22:11] <pozori> ikonia: is it still glitchy? is it still slow?
[22:11] <subcool> thans cipherboy ikonia
[22:11] <cipherboy> np
[22:11] <ikonia> pozori: for most people, no
[22:14] <cipherboy> ikonia, thoughts on getting nouveau to work on 13.04? checking libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental once it boots..
[22:14] <ikonia> cipherboy: it depends on your card and it's support
[22:14] <pozori> ikonia: is the Unity on 12.04.2 the same version as it is in 13.04? LTS description says "receives constant updates"
[22:15] <cipherboy> ikonia, "Be aware that this list may be outdated and incomplete. Nouveau aims to support all NVIDIA cards, but no effort is made to document which cards (and BIOSes) actually work, as this is deemed infeasible. Just try it and submit bug reports if it doesn't work. Feel free to edit the page when your card is not listed. "
[22:15] <ikonia> pozori: 12.04 and 13.04 have different versions
[22:16] <cipherboy> ikonia, but what it does say "NV20 family Introduced basic shaders and hardware context-switching. " ..which mine is NV25
[22:16] <ikonia> I'd need to resarch it
[22:17] <cipherboy> k, sorry, worked on that some myself, but not exactly figured anything else that works except what I know: nvidia-96 package which is no longer supported.
[22:20] <subcool> cipherboy, i think it only copied the hidden files
[22:21] <BenjaminRH> anybody know what steps I can take to make the special function keys (FN+F--, like media and brightness) work correctly? They don't seem to function currently. Some of them do random things I haven't figured out yet
[22:21] <subcool> cipherboy, nvm
[22:25] <irreverant> do we have a thunderbird channel?
[22:25] <dysoco> Hello, I need the package "gdk3.0" for compiling a package... anyone knows how can I install this package? I searched with apt-cache but found nothing
[22:25] <dysoco> irreverant: try #thunderbird at irc.mozilla.org
[22:28] <columb> How do I open .folder with nautilus?
[22:28] <obbe> dysoco: GDK is part of GTK, look for libgtk-3-0 and it's development package.
[22:28] <Lanser> I am installing gvfs and it gave me this error checking for DBUS... configure: error: Package requirements (dbus-1) were not met:
[22:28] <Lanser> No package 'dbus-1' found
[22:28] <Lanser> how can I fix this?
[22:28] <iceroot> dysoco: you dont mean gtk?
[22:28] <histo> columb: ctrl+h shows hidden files
[22:28] <columb> Thanks.
[22:28] <Lanser> i did ./configure during the gvfs installation, and it gave me:
[22:28] <Lanser> checking for DBUS... configure: error: Package requirements (dbus-1) were not met:
[22:28] <Lanser> No package 'dbus-1' found
[22:28] <histo> Lanser: install dbus
[22:29] <Lanser> Lanser: dbus isn't in my repo
[22:29] <dysoco> iceroot: actually this is asking for gdk3.0
[22:29] <carif> after a fair amount of googling, i can't see if raring supports the amd radeon hd 7950 (http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7950/Pages/radeon-7950.aspx); i tried the h/w compatability website, but the card isn't listed; is it supported?
[22:29] <histo> !info dbus | Lanser
[22:29] <dysoco> obbe: ah, you were right... it was libgdk-3-dev not libgdk3-dev
[22:29] <dysoco> thanks!
[22:29] <iceroot> dysoco: ah ok, never heard of gdk just gtk
[22:29] <histo> Lanser: should be installed by default
[22:29] <dysoco> iceroot: I guess gdk means Gnome Development Kit or something like that
[22:29] <histo> Lanser: What does "cat /etc/issue" output?
[22:30] <Lanser> histo, I use BackTrack
[22:30] <Lanser> but this is a very critical situation
[22:30] <obbe> GDK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GDK
[22:30] <histo> Lanser: well then ask the backtrack people
[22:30] <Lanser> I need gvfs, or else, if I restart, my system will be gone.
[22:30] <histo> !backtrack | Lanser
[22:32] <akurilin> Is it known yet what kernel version 12.04.3 will be using?
[22:34] <cipherboy> No progress, taking off nomodeset results in higher resolution but lower quality
[22:34] <muslimgirl> salam
[22:34] <cipherboy> (multiple pointers, conky went bad)
[22:34] <ph4sm4> can some help me with my issue? http://pastebin.com/yMW0U3ER
[22:34] <ph4sm4> It is some information at the bottom
[22:35] <nurow> Anyone have experience setting up file associations in FileZilla? It seems no matter what I do I can't get it to work. I've set Ubuntu to default open CSS files in gedit, I've tried adding a like "css /usr/bin/gedit" or "css /usr/bin/gedit -open" but nothing works. I always get the "No program has been associated on your system with this file"
[22:36] <nurow> I found a Debian user having a similar problem, as well: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=702216
[22:36] <cipherboy> And...gpu lock up.
[22:37] <ph4sm4> Can some one help me with this problem!? http://pastebin.com/yMW0U3ER
[22:39] <ikonia> ph4sm4: you've been told what to do 3 times now
[22:39] <cipherboy> ph4sm4, I looked, not sure what I can do to help you other than try creating the config.lua from a known source.
[22:39] <ph4sm4> Im out of ideas! Can anyone help me wit
[22:39] <histo> ph4sm4: why don't you put the config where it wants it
[22:39] <ikonia> ph4sm4: what is not clear ?
[22:40] <ph4sm4> I tried putting it where it wants it but the problem is that path doesnt exist
[22:40] <ikonia> ph4sm4: then create it.....
[22:40] <ikonia> ph4sm4: or look at the man page for how to point it at the right place
[22:40] <ph4sm4> man page?
[22:41] <ikonia> ph4sm4: just create the path
[22:41] <ph4sm4> alright
[22:41] <ph4sm4> let me try
[22:43] <Tamwyn> hello
[22:44] <dysoco> hello Tamwyn
[22:44] <ph4sm4> @ikona it worked! but now im getting another error db.s3db does not exist
[22:44] <ph4sm4> im going to check for that file
[22:45] <nurow> Anyone have experience setting up file associations in FileZilla? It seems no matter what I do I can't get it to work. I've set Ubuntu to default open CSS files in gedit, I've tried adding a like "css /usr/bin/gedit" or "css /usr/bin/gedit -open" but nothing works. I always get the "No program has been associated on your system with this file"
[22:47] <Tamwyn> i've got a question about creating a bootable USB-Stick. I tried to create it with dd but it wasn't bootable. The Tool in Ubuntu wasn't working with this image and Unetbootin wasn't supporting the Version. (I haven't used the version from sourceforge, I used the repos) That was all I tried. I'm using 12.04 and was working with a Fedora 19 image.
[22:47] <Lanser> Hello everybody, many people reported that their Nautilus was screwed up, couldnt mount dicks, couldnt detect anything, and couldnt load trash, I know have the fix for this.
[22:47] <Lanser> this is occured by the installation of glib.
[22:48] <pozori> Tamwyn: sudo dd if=iso-image.iso of=/dev/sdX
[22:49] <Draxelis> what's up with the invites?
[22:49] <Lanser> pozori: dd? are you out of your mind?
[22:49] <Lanser> you're telling newbies to use dd?
[22:49] <pozori> Tamwyn: you most likely put something like /dev/sdc1
[22:49] <pozori> Lanser: that
[22:49] <Tamwyn> pozori: I used this command with a bs=8M at the end
[22:49] <Lanser> Tamwyn, use gparted, dd is way too dangerous.
[22:49] <Lanser> pozori is just out of his mind and recommending dangerous stuff to users.
[22:49] <Tamwyn> Lanser: i hit the right device
[22:49] <Lanser> Tamwyn: use gparted, never, ever use dd.
[22:50] <Lanser> gparted has a GUI, so it's much easier.
[22:50] <pozori> Lanser: please watch your tone, dd is what everyone+dog uses
[22:50] <ph4sm4> Now I got another error "File db.s3db does not exist"  where am I going to get this file from?
[22:50] <Lanser> pozori, I would not recommend newbies to use dd.
[22:50] <Tamwyn> Lanser pozori I had written i used it already
[22:50] <Lanser> oh tamwyn.
[22:50] <ikonia> ph4sm4: youre going to need to read the doumentation/forums on that
[22:50] <pozori> when I was newbie there wasn't anything else
[22:51] <Tamwyn> Lanser: i was able to make sure that this device was the usb-key
[22:51] <pozori> Tamwyn: then check sha-sum of image, is bad use wget next time to get it
[22:51] <Lanser> Tamwyn; did you try dmesg?
[22:51] <andyggeee> hey guys, i'm looking for a recomendation for a model number of a rugged tablet that will do barcode scanning in a warehouse that runs ubuntu.
[22:51] <andyggeee> model/brand
[22:51] <Tamwyn> Lanser: no
[22:52] <Tamwyn> pozori: torrent
[22:53] <lolcat> is sys a real folder with real files?
[22:53] <Lanser> andyggeee: you can always try modeltug.
[22:53] <Lanser> which currently runs the model_ff() module.
[22:53] <andyggeee> Lanser, i've never heard of this
[22:53] <Lanser> I am not sure if it has barcode-scanning.
[22:53] <Lanser> but I did heard it does.
[22:53] <ner0x> What do I need to install to run .jnlp files?
[22:53] <andyggeee> i wil look it up thank you Lanser
[22:53] <Lanser> this was back in 2008, I am not sure if their development is still available.
[22:54] <pozori> Tamwyn: I still suggest you check the hash, then try dd again without defining the blocksum (I don't ever recall setting it except for CD's)
[22:55] <andyggeee> Lanser, i typed: modeltug linux   ... into google and nothing is coming up
[22:56] <Lanser> andyggeee, try looking ffmpegcolorspace.
[22:56] <Lanser> andyggeee, I think you should go for gstreamer for now.
[22:56] <andyggeee> hmmm okay
[22:56] <pozori> Lanser: what else there is other than dd to create bootable sticks of anyhing?
[22:56] <Lanser> you can get a copy of gstreamer from http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/src/
[22:56] <andyggeee> do you know of a tablet that will run ubuntu?
[22:56] <Lanser> android.
[22:57] <ikonia> android isn't a tablet
[22:57] <Lanser> andyggeee; android is the most suitable.
[22:57] <Lanser> oh
[22:57] <andyggeee> anywya, i need a tablet in a warehouse to scan UPC codes...
[22:57] <Varlch> hi
[22:57] <andyggeee> i assume i'd need to buy a usb scanner
[22:58] <ikonia> andyggeee: look at scanner apps for the inbuilt cammer
[22:58] <ikonia> camera
[22:58] <andyggeee> ikonia, will they be as fast as a regular usb scanner?
[22:58] <ikonia> don't see why not
[22:59] <Lanser> andyggeee, I am assuming that you tried out xTablet T8700 bar code scanner?
[22:59] <unclouded> is it possible to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH for everything launched from dash?  I would like /usr/lib/nvidia-experimental-310 to be available to all apps launched from dash.  Making a file in /etc/ld.so.conf.d doesn't seem to help
[22:59] <Lanser> andyggeee: www.ruggedtabletpc.com/accessories/bar-code-scanner/‎
[22:59] <andyggeee> Lanser, assume nothing, this is my first stop after a quick google search which didn't result in much
[22:59] <ikonia> unclouded: you shouldn't need to set ld_library_cache for that
[23:00] <Lanser> ikonia: How can we call an op if an channel is full of trolls?
[23:00] <andyggeee> nice thank uyou ikonia
[23:00] <andyggeee> err i mean thank you lanser
[23:00] <Lanser> #ubuntu is full of trolls when no op is here.
[23:00] <unclouded> ikonia: doesn't seem to work though.  glxspheres is jerky without it, smooth when I launch it with the path on the command line
[23:00] <lolcat> How can I make the grub menu appear once?
[23:01] <k1l> lolcat: left shift
[23:01] <unclouded> i.e. "LD_LIBRARY_PATH=... glxspheres" is smooth
[23:01] <k1l> press it while booting
[23:02] <andyggeee> Lanser, does this thing run ubuntu, the t8700?
[23:02] <Lanser> k1l, have you taken any courses for computer engineering?
[23:02] <Lanser> andyggeee, yes.
[23:02] <andyggeee> Lanser, rock on
[23:03] <Lanser> k1l: I am curious why you guys got all that knowledge.
[23:03] <k1l> Lanser: no, but we have #ubuntu-offtopic for the not suport chatting :)
[23:03] <Lanser> oh alright.
[23:03] <Lanser> k1l, can you give cloaks?
[23:03] <Lanser> i'll come to #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:03] <andyggeee> Lanser, this thing is from 2008
[23:04] <Lanser> andyggeee, that doesn't matter. it still works.
[23:04] <andyggeee> unless i'm confused
[23:04] <andyggeee> hmm i was expecting something a little newer
[23:05] <unclouded> so is there any way to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH for dash, and would apps it launches then inherit it?
[23:05] <andyggeee> Lanser, and it isn't showing up in Google's Shopping...
[23:05] <kboodu> unclouded: You can set that in your .profile with export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=.....
[23:05] <unclouded> I've tried /etc/environment and ~/.pam_environment and they just don't seem to take
[23:05] <k1l> !ot | andyggeee
[23:06] <poz> does anyone have like 20 mins to help me? i have having some update problems
[23:06] <andyggeee> k1l, ah okay thank you
[23:06] <poz> i am currently putting the error messages into a paste bin
[23:06] <unclouded> kboodu: will dash or rather the apps pick it up from ~/.profile?
[23:06] <jtreminio> Hi all. I want to install php5 without all the other stuff (apache, for example). How do I tell apt-get "install only enough to make this work"?
[23:06] <kboodu> unclouded: For a command shell.  Not sure about a cron job.
[23:06] <k1l> poz: just get the details and errorsmessages right and if someone knows the solution he will tell you
[23:06] <Tamwyn> when I'm watching in Gparted for my USB-Key there ist no fs, this could be a reason for the problem
[23:07] <poz> http://pastebin.com/AgJEpVzh
[23:07] <kboodu> unclouded: Anything started from the command line should inherit the environment (unless you do something really unusual)
[23:07] <kboodu> unclouded: See http://linux.die.net/man/1/dash for more info.
[23:07] <poz> can anyone look at that pastebin (http://pastebin.com/AgJEpVzh) and help me with an update problem
[23:08] <k1l> poz: which ubuntu exactly?
[23:08] <poz> ubuntu 12.04 lts
[23:08] <k1l> poz: and can you pastbin a "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[23:08] <unclouded> I think something must be resetting LD_LIBRARY_PATH because even putting it in ~/.profile didn't help.  echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH shows empty from gnome-terminal
[23:08] <kboodu> unclouded: Did you start a new terminal session?
[23:09] <unclouded> sry, realised I'm being confusing.  I meant the "dash" launcher in Unity, not the shell!
[23:09] <unclouded> yes, I logged out and logged back in again
[23:09] <poz> kil: results for  "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d" are here: http://pastebin.com/cTMa710y
[23:09] <kboodu> unclouded: Not the dash launcher.  Then you need to create a shell script and call that to setup the "environment"
[23:10] <zykotic10> jtreminio: try using --no-install-recommends and see if that gives you want you want
[23:10] <kboodu> And run the shell script instead of launching the application.
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> andyggeee, In general polling is off topic, however one never knows someone might know.
[23:10] <andyggeee> wilee-nilee, rock on man
[23:10] <unclouded> kboodu: ah, so no way to set that for anything launched from the Unity dash?
[23:10] <jtreminio> zykotic10: hmmm … "$ sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install php5" still recommends apache
[23:10] <f00bar80> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y , Y: command not found , [7]+  Stopped                 apt-get update && apt-get upgrade <<<<< any comment ?
[23:10] <unclouded> I'd like it set for any app that might use GL
[23:11] <andyggeee> wilee-nilee, i guess asking for hardware recommendations in ubuntu channel made sense to me.
[23:11] <zykotic10> jtreminio: sorry, i don't have any other suggestions.  good luck.
[23:11] <poz> f00bar80, this is also happening to me
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> andyggeee, UNderstandable, I wonder if a android like a nexus 7 might do it.
[23:11] <kboodu> unclouded: Not sure.  Maybe in /etc/profile or something, but that might only work for shell scripts and not executables.
[23:12] <poz> some times I get this: After this operation, 5,120 B of additional disk space will be used.
[23:12] <poz> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
[23:12] <poz> y: command not found
[23:12] <poz> [5]+  Stopped                 sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:12] <poz> [5]+  Stopped                 sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:12] <FloodBot1> poz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:12] <k1l> poz: libxml is gnome stuff. maybe your cinnamon ppa is doing the trouble
[23:12] <f00bar80> ppl any comment ?
[23:12] <kboodu> unclouded: Just be aware that setting something like that globally can impact other programs as well.
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> poz, You have been spanked by the bot. ;)
[23:12] <poz> can i talk now?
[23:13] <poz> cinnamon eh...
[23:13] <poz> anyone else have any ideas?
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> f00bar80, Can you pastebin your apt-get update all the text.
[23:13] <dr_willis> cinnamon can break ubuntu.
[23:13] <holstein> poz: are you using a PPA? if so, try purging it
[23:13] <poz> how can i disable cinnamon?
[23:14] <poz> what does purging it do?
[23:14] <k1l> poz: since cinnamon changes alot of gnome stuff its not that far away that this will cause problems if its from ab PPA
[23:14]  * wilee-nilee tried cinnamon, not bad really
[23:14] <holstein> poz: it removes the unsupported 3rd party sources that could be causing issues
[23:14] <unclouded> kboodu: /etc/profile didn't help.  I guess Unity isn't reading /etc/profile, which perhaps isn't that surprising
[23:14] <dr_willis> !ppa-purge
[23:14] <holstein> !info cinammon
[23:14] <f00bar80> wilee-nilee, http://pastebay.com/1257923
[23:14] <holstein> !info cinnamon
[23:15] <holstein> its in the raring repos poz
[23:15] <kboodu> unclouded: Not too surprising.  I'd wrap relevant programs in a shell script and include the export statement in there.
[23:15] <poz> that sounds like a good idea. can I get into the PPA to save a sources though?
[23:15] <dr_willis> first ive noticed that in the official repos
[23:15] <unclouded> kboodu: OK, looks like that will be the easiest option, even if it's manual work for each new app installed that needs GL
[23:16] <wilee-nilee> f00bar80, Try dist-upgrade
[23:16] <kboodu> unclouded: Not all GL apps may require it.  YMMV.
[23:16] <holstein> poz: the ppa is not supported here, officially
[23:16] <uvala> hello, is there any client to substitute  choqok, for managing twitter accounts?
[23:16] <poz> why not?
[23:16] <holstein> !ppa | poz
[23:17] <poz> oh
[23:17] <poz> will you tell me how to access them?
[23:17] <kboodu> unclouded: Thinking about it..there is an alternative, but it may cause more problems than it solves.
[23:17] <holstein> poz: because the sources are not supported, friend.. is the ppa the issue? i dont know, but a good first stop is to purge it.. if you want cinnamon, i would use raring, since its in the repos by default
[23:18] <jtreminio> for some reason apt-get isn't respecting --no-install-recommends: http://pastebin.com/8BjXkHVB - anyone have any idea why?
[23:18] <unclouded> kboodu: what is it?  it would be sweet to be able to continue to use Unity to launch stuff instead of having to launch it from a console
[23:18] <kboodu> unclouded: You can add it to /etc/ld.so.conf and directory.
[23:18] <poz> what is raring?
[23:18] <poz> !raring
[23:18] <unclouded> kboodu: /etc/ld.so.conf.d/nvidia.conf?
[23:18] <kboodu> unclouded: Just be aware this will be for every program on your system!  So it can lead to other conflicts (and it will make debugging harder).
[23:18] <unclouded> then ldconfig -verbose?
[23:18] <poz> are you suggesting I upgrade to 13.04?
[23:19] <kboodu> unclouded: Yes
[23:19] <wilee-nilee> jtreminio, You are running sudo in root?   ~#
[23:19] <unclouded> weird.  I've already done that and it just doesn't take
[23:19] <kboodu> unclouded: Google that (and make sure you give yourself plenty of notes!)
[23:19] <holstein> poz: you are using 12.04, which doesnt have cinnamon.. 13.04 has cinnamon.. you should do what you like, but i am stating a fact.. cinnamon is in 13.04 and not in 12.04
[23:19] <poz> oh i see
[23:19] <holstein> poz:  i suggested, and still suggest that you purge that ppa and test
[23:19] <poz> i am not sure what cinnamon is
[23:19] <holstein> poz: you mentioned cinnamon
[23:19] <poz> what is the code to purge?
[23:20] <poz> kil mentioned cinnamon
[23:20] <histo> poz: to purge what?
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> jtreminio, What is your OS is this backtrack?
[23:20] <kboodu> unclouded: I think it requies a reload of that file.  I know it's done on reboot but not sure how to "force it" to reload off the top of my head
[23:20] <poz> to purge ppa
[23:20] <histo> !ppapurge | poz
[23:20] <poz> looks easy enough
[23:21] <jtreminio> wilee-nilee: Ubuntu 12.10 (GNU/Linux 3.5.0-17-generic x86_64)
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> jtreminio, Why are you doing this in root first of all, and no sudo mis used in root.
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> is*
[23:21] <jtreminio> wilee-nilee: and yeah, running everything in root. it's all being provisioned by puppet but I've dropped in to manual mode to figure this issue out
[23:22] <unclouded> kboodu: it make no sense.  here's my ld.so.conf.d file: http://pastie.org/8150593
[23:22] <poz> purging is not working
[23:22] <poz> wait
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> jtreminio, Puppet is a good thang I live nearby it however not supported.
[23:22] <unclouded> and I have rebooted.  that really should work
[23:22] <jtreminio> the initial provisioning of a VM by puppet is all done via root
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> jtreminio, Just a heads up is all. ;)
[23:22] <jtreminio> wilee-nilee: this isn't being done by puppet though. I'm SSHed in as root right now, typing everything manually
[23:23] <holstein> poz: run "sudo apt-get update" and pastebin the output
[23:23] <poz> i can not install ppa-purge
[23:23] <mikedm> looking to install ubuntu on an ssd. does swap need to be on a regular hd?
[23:23] <wilee-nilee> jtreminio, Cool, out of my pay range is all.
[23:23] <holstein> mikedm: "need" can be a matter of opinion
[23:23] <jtreminio> gotcha. if I hadn't mentioned puppet at all, and it wasn't being run in root, would you have any suggestions wilee-nilee
[23:23] <dr_willis> mikedm:  i put mine on a normal hdd
[23:24] <holstein> mikedm: this is a nice article by a freind http://wootangent.net/2013/03/dr-strangedrive-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-ssds/
[23:24] <wilee-nilee> mikedm, I would have the swap on the ssd and set up the trim...etc.
[23:24] <dr_willis> since the sdd is so smaller normally
[23:24] <poz> holstein: http://pastebin.com/MDPbc7xm
[23:24] <kboodu> unclouded: Are those directories or files?
[23:24] <wilee-nilee> Mine is 256 gigs though
[23:25] <dr_willis> i rarely hit swap  anyway.  ;-)
[23:25] <zorael> Where can you change the system-wide locale from the terminal?
[23:25] <mikedm> my ssd is 128gb with another 750gb on a sata drive.
[23:25] <unclouded> kboodu: directories.  is this something I'm doing wrong?
[23:25] <wilee-nilee> jtreminio, Not really, sorry. ;)
[23:25] <holstein> poz: you have ppa's added... i would purge them and get back to using ubuntu, and seek support
[23:26] <poz> I do not know how to purge them
[23:26] <holstein> poz: otherwise, you need to contact the maintainers of the  software you are using, which is not ubuntu
[23:26] <poz> install ppa-purge failed
[23:26] <kboodu> unclouded: Not sure...Can you list the libraries loaded in RAM?
[23:26] <mikedm> does anything need to be on another hd?
[23:27] <holstein> poz: you might have to clean up the errors  the PPA's have made to be able to install anything
[23:27] <poz> which is why i am here
[23:27] <holstein> poz: sure, and here is not where you need to be, friend.. we dont support those pacakges
[23:27] <holstein> packages
[23:27] <poz> i broke it and now i do not know how to fix it
[23:27] <holstein> poz: however, you should be able to run "sudo apt-get install ppa-purge" and share errors
[23:28] <unclouded> kboodu: how do I list the libraries loaded in RAM?  I'd like to learn that
[23:28] <holstein> poz: correct, you added 3rd party sources, which are, as stated "use at your own risk" and you risked it, and broke the system
[23:28] <wilee-nilee> poz, did you say what release you are running, the ppa-purge is in a PPA for some releases I believe.
[23:28] <holstein> poz: no a big deal.. but try the command i have.. sudo apt-get install ppa-purge and share results
[23:29] <kboodu> unclouded: sudo ldconfig -p
[23:29] <poz> sudo apt-get install ppa-purge --->  http://pastebin.com/wgfHcagv
[23:29] <kboodu> unclouded: You can grep for the libraries you think you're loading.
[23:30] <psilo> I have a file named -i.  How can I rename it?
[23:30] <holstein> poz: i would start by manually removing libxml2:amd64 libcroco3:amd64 libxml2-utils python-libxml2
[23:30] <poz> sounds like a good idea
[23:30] <poz> and I plan to as soon as I learn how
[23:30] <unclouded> kboodu: will do.  there's 1500 lines otherwise!
[23:31] <holstein> poz:
[23:31] <holstein> ?
[23:31] <psilo> mv '-i'     mv \-i    mv '\-i'    none of these work.
[23:31] <qin> psilo: F2 in nautilus?
[23:31] <unclouded> http://pastie.org/8150612
[23:31] <Ben64> psilo: mv $'-1'
[23:31] <poz> ... learning in progress... (tips welcome)
[23:31] <holstein> poz: sudo apt-get autoremove them
[23:31] <dr_willis> psilo:  rm  '-i'
[23:31] <holstein> poz: sudo apt-get autoremove libxml2:amd64 libcroco3:amd64 libxml2-utils python-libxml2
[23:31] <dr_willis> or  rm --  -i     perhaps
[23:31] <unclouded> I thought it might be because nvidia-current is also installed but there are only experimental libraries in ld.so.cache
[23:31] <holstein> poz: share errors
[23:31] <kboodu> unclouded: Which one(s) are you looking for
[23:32] <psilo> dr_willis: mv -- -i worked, nice.  Should've thought of that, thanks
[23:33] <unclouded> libnvidia-tls.so.310.14 and libnvidia-glcore.so.310.14
[23:33] <poz> hsudo apt-get remove libxml2:amd64 ----> ttp://pastebin.com/wv9jG5Py
[23:34] <BlueProtoman> I'm trying to play Mega Man Unlimited on Ubuntu 13.04.  It runs at adequate speed, but the sound is very slow and choppy.  Any tips?
[23:34] <Ben64> poz: what happens if you try to purge the ppas
[23:34] <Oldbird> psilo: develop an little c program just for call remove() ?
[23:34] <unclouded> maybe I will try running the X server with nvidia-current instead of experimental and see if the problem goes away
[23:34] <holstein> poz: you will need to read, and follow the instructions
[23:34] <poz> Ben64, I can not purge ppas because of this sudo apt-get install ppa-purge --->  http://pastebin.com/wgfHcagv
[23:34] <kboodu> unclouded: Might be the answer.  I'm not sure.
[23:35] <holstein> poz: no, you can, and need to purge, you will need to read, and fix
[23:35] <kboodu> unclouded: Video driver / issues drive me nuts...(as does other hardware problems) - so hard to diagnose
[23:35] <Ben64> poz: "ppa-purge is already the newest version."
[23:35] <Ben64> poz: that means its installed
[23:35] <poz> i see
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> poz, look at the the link for the actual purge command. http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html
[23:37] <poz> I guess the problem is that I am not sure which ppa to purge
[23:38] <wilee-nilee> poz, They are all in /etc/apt/sources.list.d if you want to look.
[23:38] <poz> oh okay, thanks wilee-nilee
[23:39] <dasd9> can you dual boot windows 8 and backtrack?
[23:39] <anonee> OK hello everyone, I tried to # apt-cache search *kernel* but I'm getting E: Regex compilation error. how can I fix this?
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> poz, PPA's are great, but can be trouble if you are not careful is all.
[23:39] <kboodu> anonee: Try just apt-cache kernel
[23:39] <goddard> dasd9: no it screws up the space time continuum
[23:40] <wilee-nilee> !backtrack > dasd9
[23:40] <kboodu> anonee: though you might prefer 'apt-cache search kernel | less'
[23:40] <lauratika> where can i check error logs?
[23:40] <anonee> ty kboodu!
[23:41] <kboodu> lauratika: Which log?  Most logs are in /var/log/
[23:41] <poz> yeah, i am not very careful, I typically run whatever code I can find via google without knowing what it does
[23:41] <wilee-nilee> poz, You might get a backup and cloning setup for such occasions. ;)
[23:41] <netlar> Does Linux support bluetooth 4.0?
[23:41] <lauratika> well pć restrarts by itself with a message that says saned network
[23:41] <goddard> haha
[23:41] <lauratika> want to know what is all about
[23:41] <goddard> netlar: yes
[23:42] <netlar> goddard: I cannot ever connect anything
[23:42] <poz> well I have a desktop and a laptop, my laptop I just mess around with. I dont do it on my desktop unless i know what I am doing
[23:42] <netlar> goddard: Is there a trick to get it working?
[23:42] <goddard> netlar: it would depend on the system and driver support
[23:43] <netlar> goddard: I am on 13.04
[23:43] <kboodu> lauratika: Do you have a scanner plugged in?
[23:43] <goddard> netlar: i mean your actual hardware
[23:43] <netlar> goddard: the bluetooth chipset?
[23:43] <goddard> yes
[23:44] <netlar> goddard: How can I find that out again?
[23:44] <poz> my gf wants me to go help with dinner so I have to go now. thanks for the help everyone has given me so far!
[23:44] <goddard> dont ever help the gf with dinner!
[23:45] <Martijn-NL> Hi everyone - is there an opensource video editting tool for Ubuntu available?
[23:46] <bossman759> Kdenlive Martijn-NL
[23:46] <lauratika> sorry got dicontected... pc keeps restarting for no aparent reason, message sasy network sane
[23:46] <goddard> Martijn-NL: yes
[23:47] <kboodu> lauratika: Do you have a scanner on the network or connected?
[23:47] <goddard> Martijn-NL: a few
[23:47] <goddard> Martijn-NL: look in the software center
[23:47] <Martijn-NL> bossman759: Can you recommendate Kdenlive?
[23:47] <lauratika> kboodu: not at all, not that i know of
[23:47] <goddard> whats a scanner?
[23:48] <goddard> to listen to rf?
[23:48] <kboodu> lauratika: But it says "network sane" in the message
[23:48] <bossman759> I've used it only once and I did the job. I'm not an expert so it may not be After Affects quality but I worked for me.
[23:48] <BlueProtoman> goddard: No, to digitize sheets of paper
[23:48] <kboodu> goddard: I'm thinking a document/photo scanner.
[23:48] <lauratika> yes, scanner server saned network
[23:48] <goddard> oh i thought that was what a 10MP camera was for
[23:48] <lauratika> kboodu: so sorry i have a scanner. actually but is not on
[23:49] <anonee> how can I downgrade to kernel 3.5 ?
[23:49] <kboodu> lauratika: Hmm.  I wonder if you have a driver looking for it?
[23:49] <lauratika> thats why it restarts suddenly out of nothing?
[23:49] <kboodu> lauratika: No idea.  Just guessing.
[23:49] <BlueProtoman> goddard: Difference is, scanners have a bed where you can place the document face-down.  Much better than taking photos of documents.
[23:50] <anonee> sorry, I'll check it out
[23:50] <BlueProtoman> How do I temporarily change my sound system?
[23:50] <lauratika> you mean scanner is in conflict with something?
[23:50] <anonee> bye bye room, thanks kboodu
[23:50] <lauratika> is there any way to check for log errors?
[23:50] <kboodu> lauratika: Not sure.  I'm just guessing.  SANE is normally associated with scanners.
[23:51] <kboodu> lauratika: you can try something like sudo grep -ir sane /var/log/* | less
[23:51] <kboodu> lauratika: But that could generate a lot of messages.  But it might give you somewhere to start.
[23:51] <lauratika> kboodu: thanx
[23:52] <inashdeen> hi there, I am using ubuntu 13.04 on my acer aspire v5-471pg . It was preloaded with windows 8. I manage to install ubuntu without hassle. but ubuntu uefi/grub could not detect my windows 8. how do I add it to the menu? thanks
[23:52] <kboodu> lauratika: You can also check to see if 'ps aux | grep -i sane' shows anything
[23:52] <kboodu> lauratika: Specifically looking for a daemon that might have sane in the name.
[23:52] <lauratika> the odd issue is not even on
[23:53] <kboodu> lauratika: This might be a red herring...but if you reboot right when the message is firing off...
[23:53] <kboodu> lauratika: also, there might be something "interesting" in /var/log/syslog right before each reboot.
[23:53] <lauratika> red herring?
[23:53] <kboodu> lauratika: Again, that's another guess.
[23:54] <kboodu> lauratika: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring
[23:54] <lauratika> sorry i dont know what is a reh herring?
[23:54] <kboodu> lauratika: A fallacy that detracts from the actual issue.  :)
[23:55] <lauratika> kboodu:  hahaha
[23:55] <lauratika> but can find even a pattern when this happens, sometimes is out of nowhere, sometimes im surfing the net, all time scanner is off
[23:56] <philwong> can you effecticley run ubuntu on nvidia?
[23:56] <inashdeen_> hi there, I just installed ubuntu 13.04 on my acer aspire v5-471pg. The problem is, the uefi/boot (ubuntu) cannot detect windows 8. how do i add it to the list? thanks
[23:56] <kboodu> lauratika: If a message appears a few seconds (a few lines) before each reboot, it's something to look at closer.
[23:57] <DuncanNZ> Does anyone here have a Lenovo E531? I've got one on the way and would like to know about any potential compatibility issues
[23:57] <DuncanNZ> (or any others in the E___ series)
[23:57] <lauratika> yes, scanner serves  network:saned
[23:58] <kboodu> lauratika: Is saned running right now?
[23:58] <lauratika> you mean the scanner?, nope
[23:59] <kboodu> Not is the scanner off.  Is the application saned running?
[23:59] <lauratika> lktika kernel: [12931.515013] [UFW BLOCK] IN=tun0 OUT= MAC= SRC=106.154.128.177 DST=172.37.0.101 LEN=79 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=44 ID=8448 PROTO=UDP SPT=3387 DPT=33100 LEN=59
[23:59] <lauratika> this is from the syslog
[23:59] <kboodu> lauratika: ufw is the Ubuntu Firewall