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jbichapitti: I think bug 1202054 is invalid but do you want to handle it?02:15
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1202054 in accountsservice (Ubuntu) "PostgreSQL Being Listed on Login Screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120205402:15
pittiGood morning03:30
pittijbicha: looking03:30
pittijbicha: indeed, closed with a comment03:32
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didrockssalut jibel!06:58
jibelSalut didrocks06:59
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seb128good morning desktopers!07:32
didrockshey seb128!07:35
seb128didrocks, hey ;-)07:35
didrocksseb128: I guess we have good reasons to not have gnome-terminal 3.8? :)07:35
seb128didrocks, try asking Laney or jbicha, the new version migrates to gsettings and had some issues IIRC but I didn't look at it, they did07:36
didrocksseb128: mind if I backport the fix for https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=685507?07:36
ubot2`Gnome bug 685507 in general "Tabbed windows resize themselves when unfocused" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]07:36
didrocksseb128: this is really getting on my nerves everyday :p07:36
seb128didrocks, you are welcome to fix desktop bugs ;-)07:37
didrocks\o/07:37
didrocksseb128: you never use tabs in gnome-terminal, I assume?07:37
seb128I do, but I use the default geometry (if that makes a difference)07:38
didrockshum, vcs is at 3.8.4 :/07:38
didrocksah, you don't resize it07:38
seb128somebody started the update but probably didn't end uploading for a reason07:38
seb128no I don't07:38
seb128the default size is good enough for07:38
didrocksok, that's why you don't see that :p07:38
seb128what I'm doing07:39
seb128;-)07:39
didrocksI think I'll just apt-get source && upload07:39
seb128that's the way to go when the vcs has ongoing work07:39
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seb128we should stage those in a update vcs rather than in trunk07:39
seb128but most of the time when we start an update we just do it so we got used to abuse trunk...07:40
didrocksright, and only merge once ready to be uploaded07:40
Laneyhey08:03
seb128Laney, good morning!08:03
Laneyhow are we all?08:03
seb128quite good! you?08:03
Laneygnome-terminal was just waiting for a resolution on the vte.sh issue from my side08:03
Laneyyeah, good!08:03
Laneyooh, something weird is happening on my desktop08:05
seb128weird like?08:05
LaneyI have the default background at the unity greeter08:05
Laneythen log in, corruption under the launcher when it hides08:06
Laneythen the session crashes and I get kicked back to lightdm08:06
seb128urg08:06
seb128we didn't changed a lot recently on the desktop that I can remember08:06
LaneyI could have broken stuff when I was playing with gnome-session yesterday for that bug08:07
seb128yea, that would make sense08:07
seb128don't blame the archive when you can blame the user ;-)08:07
* Laney tinkers08:07
Laneyhad a load of unconfigured packages08:10
seb128that's usually not a good thing as well08:11
Laneywee, much better08:12
seb128what is the inconsistent state of the packaging system then?08:12
Laneysystemd wasn't configured08:12
seb128what happened to your update?08:12
Laneynot sure08:13
sil2100didrocks: I'm slowly unblocking stacks, but this will take a while since I need to get some branches landed ;)08:13
Laneyoh, wait, I remember08:13
Laneyyesterday hud-tools and something else had a file conflict08:13
LaneyI bet that broke it08:13
sil2100Laney: yes, hud-tools and phablet-tools08:13
Laneysil2100: did it get fixed?08:13
sil2100I remember Trevinho poking around for that, not sure if in the end he resolved that conflict ;/08:13
LaneyI pinged sergiusns (however do you spell that?) but he didn't say anything in response08:14
sil2100Trevinho: would know more08:14
sil2100Although not sure why he was the one working on that :D08:14
didrockssil2100: no worry08:15
didrockssil2100: don't touch the platform stack08:15
didrockssil2100: it's a bug in dailies to list powerpc, I've just reproduce it locally08:16
didrocksneed to understand and fix that08:16
didrockssil2100: please do sdk and media stack in priority08:16
didrocksto get this fix landed08:16
sil2100Aye08:17
Laneysil2100: looks like it was indeed fixed https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/phablet-tools/exclude-tests/+merge/17532808:17
Laneycyphermox_: YOU HERO08:17
sil2100didrocks: btw. indicator stack has a failure treshold of 1? Or not?08:18
Laneyalso if you want to fix the same thing in hud tools? :-)08:18
sil2100Laney: yay \o/08:18
didrockssil2100: I think it's 2, with 1 regression, you don't remember where to look at?08:19
sil2100Laney: those tests that are installed... those are unit tests, right?08:19
sil2100didrocks: don't remember... since 2 test failures caused it to fail, but I have been wondering if 1 failure is ok08:19
didrockssil2100: oh, the treshold is 4 with 2% of regressions08:19
didrockssil2100: /var/lib/jenkins/cu2d/history/head/indicators.autopilotrc08:20
didrockson mangers08:20
didrocksmagners*08:20
Laneysil2100: yeah, think so08:20
didrockssil2100: see ratio | ptotal: +0.000 | pskip: +0.000 | pfailures: +0.048 | regressions: +0.04808:20
LaneyI think it was just an accident to have them installed08:21
didrocksI know jibel is cryptic sometimes :p08:21
didrockssil2100: 4.8% of regressions08:21
sil2100;)08:24
sil2100didrocks: thanks for reminding!08:24
sil2100Laney: I'll try fixing that for hud-tools in a moment08:26
Laneycool beans08:27
Laneymlankhorst: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/bike-blog/video/2013/jul/17/man-v-bike-video08:28
Laney(no, no image build failures today :P)08:29
tvoss_pitti, ping08:31
pittitvoss_: hello08:32
didrockssil2100: ok, it was again a .copy() missing, pushing the fix and relaunching platform stack :)08:33
sil2100\o/ :)08:33
didrockssil2100: it seems that sdk stack failed08:35
sil2100didrocks: yes, because of the gallery-app problem08:35
sil2100didrocks: wait for the fix to land08:35
didrockssil2100: ah, the fix is in gallery-app as well?08:35
sil2100didrocks: I have it under control ;)08:35
didrocksok, I'll let you then :p08:36
sil2100didrocks: it's only in gallery-app, siiiince - it's not a BUG, it's a change in the toolkit ;p08:36
didrockshum, ok… ;-)08:36
didrockssil2100: I'm leaving you all the stacks now, just ping me if you need me08:36
sil2100didrocks: are we still having so few powerpc builders ;/ ?08:42
didrockssil2100: yeah, apparently the 3rd one will be racked today in London08:43
didrocksbut yeah, this is delaying to get the fix into distro08:43
didrockssil2100: if it's only blocking us, feel free to skip them08:43
didrockssil2100: then, for proposed -> released, we can ask cjwatson to free the constraint08:43
Laneybah08:46
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LaneyI wonder if indicator-datetime could set XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=Unity itself for launching the g-c-c panel08:47
Laneysince that has OnlyShowIn=Unity that kind of makes sense08:47
Laneylarsu: ^?08:47
seb128Laney, what about fixing that race instead?08:48
Laneyit's not just about the race08:48
Laneyalthough it would stop that being a problem too08:48
seb128we are going to have the same issue with other indicators08:48
seb128I had a gnome-shell locking gnome-screensaver lock screen this week08:49
Laneyyou also get this if you use -applet for example08:49
seb128I guess that's because indicator-session spawned it with the wrong env08:49
larsuLaney: that sounds ... ugly08:49
larsuwhat's the race?08:50
Laneyupstart user sessions starting u-p-s too early08:50
larsutoo early for what?08:50
Laneyfor the env var to be set08:50
Laneybut anyway, fixing that would still leave it borked in non-unity sessions08:50
larsuwait, shouldn't upstart set the right environment when spawning stuff?08:51
Laneygnome-session sets it iirc08:53
larsuright, I thought upstart user session was supposed to replace large parts of gnome-session (but then I haven't really looked into this whole püroblem much)08:54
LaneyHmm, don't know how much of it people want to replace08:55
LaneyI suppose it'd be better to launch the upstream datetime panel in non-unity situations wouldn't it?08:57
Laney(woo, my fan just got delivered)08:57
larsuyeah, and I think that's what we already do08:59
Laneynot quite09:00
Laneyit's protected by #ifdef HAVE_CCPANEL09:01
Laneyotherwise unconditional09:01
Laneylarsu: Also, relatedly - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeAndDate#Phone - we were wondering if that reuses the menumodel from the indicator?09:27
larsuLaney: it doesn't right now, but it could if that makes things easier09:28
larsunot sure what charles' plan is there09:28
Laneylarsu: No, not really - I was just going to look at implementing that one09:28
Laneythe spreadsheet says timedated for that information - is that true?09:29
larsuLaney: yes. But please talk to charles before starting on it09:30
Laneysure09:30
czajkowskirandom question I know, but does anyone use dropbox and running saucy ?  I do use U1 before people ask but work need dropbox account. however under saucy every time you click the folder dropbox to open it crashes and closes.09:31
czajkowskihmm in order for apport to send it I need to upgrade09:33
czajkowskigir1.2-glib-2.0, libgirepository-1.0-109:33
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sil2100Laney: maybe you have a moment for https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/hud/hud-tools_fix_tests/+merge/175475 ? ;)09:38
seb128czajkowski, I saw a launchpad bug which seems like a nautilus/dropbox segfault yes09:39
seb128czajkowski, not sure we can debug it though, dropbox is closed source09:39
czajkowskifeck :/09:40
czajkowskiqueue more whinging about me not using a mac on my tea09:40
czajkowski*team09:40
czajkowskishall just use the web09:40
czajkowskithanks seb12809:40
seb128czajkowski, it's rather you not using u1 :p09:41
czajkowskino I do use U1, but all the team shares stuff via dropbox :( I've already sent them invites to U1 :)09:41
czajkowskiweb works :)09:42
seb128;-)09:43
seb128ideally we would fix that dropbox/nautilus bug09:43
seb128not sure if that's the new glib it doesn't like09:43
seb128or if that's a bug in dropbox09:43
seb128the bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/119352209:45
ubot2`Ubuntu bug 1193522 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_action_get_name()" [Medium,Confirmed]09:45
Laneysil2100: yep, looks good but I can't approve such things09:45
seb128ok, need to run for a bit09:46
seb128bbl09:46
darkxstseb128, czajkowski, dropbox plugin needs to be rebuilt against new gtk to fix that crash09:47
Laney?!09:47
czajkowskiLaney: you ok?09:52
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darkxstIn some ways it would be nice to have the dropbox plugins in the archives, similar issues seem to happen every time gtk is updated!10:02
sil2100Nooo, LP is dooown10:03
sil2100Oh, ok, up10:03
sil2100didrocks: since you enabled unity-action-api for daily-release, do you know what's the status with unity-action-api-nohud? Is it supposed to be daily-released?10:07
didrockssil2100: I think it's just a different branch, maybe just check with wellark?10:07
sil2100Will do, so I'll leave it as it is for now10:08
sil2100larsu: hi! Maybe you have a moment to review and approve a hud-related merge? https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/hud/hud-tools_fix_tests/+merge/17547510:08
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tkamppetermlankhorst, hi10:13
Laneyctrl r -> power completed to "sudo poweroff" instead of "system-settings power"10:23
LaneyDOH10:23
sil2100didrocks: I have been also thinking about daily-releasing webaccounts-browser-extension - it's lacking any integration tests right now, but there are unit tests10:26
sil2100didrocks: it's already in distro, and I don't know if there are any plans for integration testing10:26
didrockssil2100: maybe check with ken about that one?10:26
sil2100didrocks: should I wait for upstream ?10:26
didrockshe should know more :)10:26
didrockssil2100: for dailies, everything's under control? the media fix is released?10:38
didrockssil2100: not with us? it seems the media stack is ready for 1h+ and it's our first priority so that they can respin the iso :/10:40
didrockssil2100: it's in manual publishing because of sdk in particular10:40
larsusil2100: approved :)10:41
* didrocks reruns sdk stack with latest gallery_app10:42
sil2100didrocks: huuush!10:48
sil2100didrocks: we've been blocked by check jobs ;/10:48
sil2100didrocks: since unity was hogging autopilot10:48
sil2100But now it got unblocked10:48
didrockssil2100: did that block platform and media publishing?10:49
didrocks(they finished 2h and 6h30 ago)10:49
sil2100didrocks: yes, since media check job was waiting for a run ;/10:49
sil2100didrocks: I couldn't publish without AP results, right?10:49
didrockshum, jenkins is showing wrong dates then?10:49
didrocks6 h 48 mn last success10:50
didrocksmaybe it's showing "starting date"10:50
* didrocks looks at the publish job10:50
sil2100hm10:50
didrocksok, finished 40 minutes ago10:50
sil2100Anyway, I do all the stacks now that it's all moving10:50
didrockssil2100: great! keep me posted10:51
didrockssil2100: well, apart from mir*, as you can see, I'm still testing…10:51
sil2100didrocks: you re-ran SDK with check-whole-ppa? Did you make sure that the new gallery-app was built already? :)10:52
didrockssil2100: just a little bit too early, it seems it was built but wasn't published (despite what launchpad told), I rerun it :p10:53
sil2100didrocks: since Apps was blocked on Friends, and Friends was blocked on unity autopilot ;p10:53
sil2100ACK :)10:53
sil2100didrocks: you free for some packaging ACKs?10:54
didrockssil2100: sure, I'm waiting for u-s-c to be published10:54
sil2100didrocks: platform stack: http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Platform/job/cu2d-platform-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_powerd_0.13+13.10.20130718-0ubuntu1.diff and http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Platform/job/cu2d-platform-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_qtubuntu_0.52+13.10.20130718-0ubuntu1.diff10:56
sil2100didrocks: besides stylistic issues, it's ok to me10:56
didrockssil2100: +1 for me as well10:57
didrockssil2100: ok, mirslaves don't seem to run fine, I wonder if the machines are not dead with the previous unity run10:57
didrockssil2100: hum, same on ati10:57
didrocksI think it's not that, something doesn't start then…10:57
sil2100hmm, I think jibel needs to help out here ;/10:58
didrockssil2100: let me kill those10:58
didrockssil2100: otto support killing :)10:58
sil2100didrocks: in the meantime, http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Friends/job/cu2d-friends-head-3.0publish/99/artifact/packaging_changes_friends_0.2.0+13.10.20130718-0ubuntu1.diff <- friends!10:58
didrockssil2100: just want to unblock for sdk/apps running10:58
didrockssil2100: ack for friends :)10:59
didrockssil2100: for indicators, maybe bump the regression triggers?11:00
didrockssil2100: seeing how the stack is dealing anyway…11:00
sil2100hmm ;/ I think that might be a good idea, since the second run has even more failures11:00
sil2100didrocks: maybe I could publish  the stack anyway?11:00
didrockssil2100: that as well11:00
sil2100Those clearly seem to be AP issues, not regressions11:01
sil2100Then I bump the thresholds a bit11:01
didrockssil2100: yeah, for mislaves, it seems to be the stack having issues (maybe the lightdm version?), the other tests are running11:01
didrockssil2100: great, thanks!11:01
sil2100didrocks: in the meantime, I'll fix phone config, as it's missing packages it seems ;/11:03
didrockssil2100: ah ok, and media is ok?11:04
sil2100didrocks: yes, published - it was waiting on manual publications of other stacks11:04
sil2100No packaging issues11:04
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didrocksgreat :)11:04
sil2100didrocks: https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/cupstream2distro-config/fix_extra_pkgs_phone/+merge/175534 <- I'll redeploy ;)11:09
didrockssil2100: approved11:10
sil2100didrocks: hmmm, I got this error when trying to run publish for indicators (without force):11:13
sil2100http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Indicators/job/cu2d-indicators-head-3.0publish/117/console11:13
didrockssil2100: maybe they change something in the bzr config? try to redeploy the stack without -S, it should reset the destination as the right one11:13
didrockssil2100: what you need I guess is             cmd = ["bzr", "config", "-d", "lp:{}".format(current_branch.unique_name), "public_branch={}".format(lpb)]11:14
sil2100didrocks: you mean, I should redeploy or republish the stack again?11:14
didrockssil2100: well, redeploying is setting the right bzr config11:15
didrockssil2100: I bet upstream changed their bzr config without fixing that11:15
sil2100Ok11:15
sil2100SDK yay \o/11:17
didrocksyep :)11:17
didrocksI think apps is almost there11:17
sil2100didrocks: http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/SDK/job/cu2d-sdk-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_ubuntu-ui-toolkit_0.1.46+13.10.20130718-0ubuntu1.diff <- looks ok to meh!11:17
didrockssil2100: yeah, it's in the distro, in universe and delivered by the same stack, fine as well! :)11:18
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sil2100didrocks: btw. is the archive ready for ubuntu-geoip? ;)11:20
didrockssil2100: it's already in main apparently, maybe it needs to check the packaging diff :)11:22
didrockssil2100: or we can add to one stack and wait to be in manual publication, as you wish11:22
didrockssil2100: run check-mir on it11:22
didrockssil2100: as it's in main, all build-deps should be in main11:22
didrockssil2100: apps passed!11:24
didrockssil2100: is publishing indicators better now?11:24
sil2100\o/11:24
didrockssil2100: ah, phone seems to have failed because the machine was rebooting11:24
didrockssil2100: maybe after the reboot request, we should add a sleep 60 in the otto job11:25
didrocksjibel: ^11:25
sil2100didrocks: checking apps!11:25
* didrocks cancels ati as we'll need to reload for intel anyway11:26
sil2100didrocks: eh, I blew it and re-ran the indicators stack instead of just the publish job ;p No problem though!11:26
sil2100didrocks: http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Apps/job/cu2d-apps-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_share-app_0.12~+13.10.20130718-0ubuntu1.diff <- ACK?11:26
sil2100Looks like a valid fix for autopilot package11:26
didrockssil2100: did you stop the indicators check?11:26
didrockssil2100: maybe no need to rerun once again autopilot, or as you wish :)11:26
didrockssil2100: yeap, for binNMUing11:26
sil2100didrocks: I cancelled it ;p11:26
didrocksoh, it's my fix11:27
didrockseven more valid then :p11:27
didrockssil2100: you didn't cancel the autopilot-saucy-daily-release though11:27
didrocksand it started :p11:27
sil2100didrocks: right, will do that now - btw. is it safe?11:27
sil2100To cancel the autopilot job?11:27
didrockssil2100: should be yeah, jibel worked on that11:27
jibeldidrocks, which job, there is already a 30s wait before rebooting11:28
didrocksjibel: let me get it, once sec11:29
sil2100didrocks: indicators published! \o/11:29
didrockssil2100: great, was that config issue then :)11:29
didrocksjibel: that one: http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/autopilot-saucy-daily_release/496/label=autopilot-intel/console11:29
sil2100didrocks: the webapps stack still has some problems though, will have to look into what's up11:30
sil2100robru probably knows more about that11:30
sil2100didrocks: but I guess the most important stacks are handled now11:31
didrockssil2100: I'm rerunning phone right now11:32
sil2100didrocks: wait!11:33
sil2100Why?11:33
sil2100It passed!11:33
didrockssil2100: it *just* passed :p11:33
sil2100Ah11:33
sil2100;)11:33
didrocks18s ago11:34
didrocks1911:34
didrocks2011:34
didrocks :)11:34
didrockssil2100: sounds like you can manually publish it :)11:34
sil2100It said 2 min here ;p Or something!11:34
didrocksnot for publish11:34
sil2100Puuublissheeed11:34
didrockssil2100: basically, we need to look at the jobs timestamp11:34
didrocks(and the one which failed/starts)11:34
didrocksthe time is the time the job was started11:34
didrocksso head was started 3 minutes ago now11:34
didrocksand we went to publish 1 min ago11:35
didrocks(and right, it's confusing :p)11:35
didrockssil2100: I'll continue to fight on the mir side while you finish the cleanups and so on :)11:36
didrockssil2100: I hope xnox can help you with the header thing as he promised :)11:36
sil2100didrocks: right! Ok :) Good luck!11:36
didrocksthanks!11:36
sil2100I'll be going to lunch soon though, but good to have the good stacks all ok11:36
didrockssil2100: yeah ;)11:36
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jibelsil2100, FTR http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/autopilot-saucy-daily_release/496/label=autopilot-intel/console is bad luck, jenkins successfully scheduled a job, during the few seconds available before the machine reboots after its daily upgrade.11:46
jibelsil2100, I'll add a quiet period to guard against that11:46
seb128Laney, do you work on the phone settings? (just reading appdevel backlog)12:08
Laneyyeah12:08
seb128ok12:08
LaneyTried to ping you but you were offline12:08
Laney:-)12:08
seb128Laney, please update the blueprint ;-)12:08
LaneyNext question will be where to get the dial pad / contact chooser from12:08
seb128Laney, and thanks for working on it!12:08
Laneysure12:08
seb128hehe12:08
seb128I was just about to ask about that12:08
seb128did you try talking to whoever is doing lp:phone-app about that?12:09
Laneynot yet12:09
seb128is the dialpad the same there?12:09
seb128we need at least one in system-settings to share between bluetooth and phone (and maybe others)12:09
Laneyit's not the same as the design12:10
Laneybut in principle, if you can replace the dial button with set and cancel, would probably be alright12:10
Laneydepends how reusable it is of course12:11
Laneybp-ed12:12
* Laney lunches12:12
seb128Laney, enjoy12:20
seb128Laney, btw do you plan to work on backends or just UI for those? we should perhaps put a warning in the UI for things that don't actually work12:21
seb128Laney, some people on #ubuntu-touch got confused by the carrier name being wrong yesterday, which made me think that we don't want to mislead users thinking they deactivated e.g 3g when they didn't12:22
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Laneyseb128: well, where we have backends to use...13:32
seb128Laney, I think you might be able to get the carrier through qtsystems...13:32
LaneyI don't know how I'm supposed to check it works13:33
seb128but I don't have a phone with active sim to try13:33
seb128we need kenvandine to help there ;-)13:33
kenvandinesure :)13:34
kenvandineLaney, got any code for me to test?13:34
seb128NetworkInfo->networkName seems it might do what we want13:34
seb128kenvandine, wait, I will try to cook a small example13:34
kenvandineawesome13:34
kenvandineQt or QML?13:35
seb128qml13:35
Laneydo you have a qtsystems api reference?13:36
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seb128Laney, no, I'm trying to guess from the source/.h :/13:45
seb128kenvandine, Laney: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5887585/13:45
seb128but no clue what I'm doing :p13:45
Laneysad13:45
seb1280 is the device number13:45
Laneythere doesn't even appear to be an api reference online anywhere13:45
* kenvandine tries13:46
kenvandinewoorks13:47
kenvandineworks13:47
seb128carrier name included? ;-)13:47
kenvandinetech: 313:47
kenvandinegsm on: 613:47
kenvandinename T-Mobile13:47
kenvandineyes13:47
seb128\o/13:47
Laneynice13:47
* seb128 files mp for carrier name13:47
seb128Laney, if that's ok with you?13:47
Laneywhat are those numbers?13:47
Laneysure13:47
kenvandineis there an enum or something that explains those numbers?13:48
LaneyI think it's probably sensible for certain things to be left to those who have appropriate devices13:49
kenvandineannoying... qtcreator doesn't have any completion for the system info api13:49
Laneyin terms of getting things done efficiently13:49
kenvandineindeed13:49
Laneyhmm, there's a doc/ in qtsystems orig tarball13:50
seb128not sure, I'm looking at src/systeminfo/linux/qnetworkinfo_linux.cpp13:50
seb128.h as well13:51
Laneysuch weird source package names13:51
kenvandinehttp://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/qtmobility/qml-networkinfo.html13:52
kenvandinelooks like 6 is "Home Network"13:52
kenvandinethose aren't current docs13:52
kenvandinebut probably similar13:52
seb128yeah13:53
kenvandinehttp://qt.developpez.com/doc/5.0-snapshot/qml-qtsysteminfo1-networkinfo/13:54
kenvandine5.0 docs13:55
Laneynice13:55
seb128great13:55
seb128kenvandine, Laney: I'm going to send the mp after the meeting that start in 4 minutes13:56
seb128I hope the hangout is not going to break my laptop again :p13:56
kenvandinehehe13:56
Laneyuse your phone13:57
Laneythey're totally the best hangout clients13:57
kenvandineanything else device specific that i should work on?13:57
seb128Dell sent a tech today to change some parts in the laptop13:57
seb128I sort of want to test if that did it13:57
seb128kenvandine, the panel is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Networking?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=phone-settings-cellular.png13:58
Laney"all of that stuff"13:58
seb128I will just send the carrier stuff since I've it done13:58
seb128if you want to pick on the other ones feel free13:58
kenvandineseb128, do you have a branch already that has the UI?13:59
kenvandineor starting from scratch?13:59
Laneytrunk!13:59
seb128kenvandine, trunk13:59
seb128;-)13:59
kenvandinecool!13:59
seb128even the daily14:00
Laneydoesn't look like qtsystems lets us do everything though14:00
LaneyI guess it's read only14:01
kenvandinethe switches won't use this API14:01
kenvandinethose should use the network indicator stuff14:01
kenvandineright?14:01
Laneyyeah, I guess that'll provide that14:02
Laneydon't know how to do the "Manually" bit14:02
kenvandinetrue14:02
kenvandinei guess that will be a cyphermox_ thing :)14:02
kenvandinecyphermox_, i assume the carrier choice stuff will use network manager?14:02
seb128ok, meeting tim14:02
seb128e14:02
* seb128 starts hangout14:02
seb128let's see if Laney has sound this week14:03
seb128cyphermox_, want to join the settings call?14:05
seb128larsu, we just lost you14:11
seb128when you froze14:11
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seb128yeah, laptop handled then hangout fine this week!14:32
Laneywoot14:32
Laneyfirefox?14:33
Laneyphwoar, my phone is hot not14:33
Laneynow14:33
tkamppetermlankhorst, I have tested the new Saucy X from x-staging PPA.14:34
seb128Laney, no, chromium, I didn't dare trying firefox14:35
seb128that was having issues on its own without the laptop ones14:35
Laneyheh14:35
Laneyhuge MP is huge14:36
seb128which one?14:37
* seb128 has a stack of small mp coming14:37
Laneylanguage UI14:37
seb128oh14:37
seb128reminds me that I should have another look to ev's one14:37
seb128or if somebody wants to ack it feel free14:37
Laney"using GSettings to store the settings that we're setting"14:40
* Laney rewords that sentence14:40
sil2100kenvandine: ping!14:52
sil2100kenvandine: are you around?14:52
sil2100kenvandine: would you mind if I enable webaccounts-browser-extension for daily release? It has no integration tests, but mardy said it would be hard to create such14:52
kenvandinesyre14:54
kenvandinesure14:54
sil2100\o/14:54
Laneyseb128: did you mean to advise Ev to keep a plugins/diagnostics/ directory?14:55
seb128Laney, no, I didn't think about the directory structure when I reviewed, just about the icons14:56
seb128Laney, ideally it should move under plugins/privacy ... as a subdir there might make sense14:56
Laneyyes14:56
LaneyI'll review the content and fix that if it's ok otherwise14:57
seb128Laney, thanks14:58
seb128Laney, so did you say that you were emailing -phone about the settings stuff or should I?14:59
* seb128 got confused14:59
LaneyI emailed /you/ with a draft!14:59
seb128ah14:59
* seb128 checks email14:59
seb128Laney, looks good to me, not sure if we want to mention ringtone ... but I can reply with that15:00
seb128stuff like flight mode or rotation lock don't seem to have a "natural owner"15:00
Laneyyep15:00
seb128where ringtone can be seen as a phone-app setting15:00
Laneysent15:04
seb128great15:05
sil2100didrocks: https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/cupstream2distro-config/daily_release_stuff/+merge/175603 <- ;)15:27
sil2100didrocks: with this there will be only one daily_release: False that's not documentated15:27
sil2100didrocks: since Wellark seems AFK15:27
didrockssil2100: everything is already in distro?15:29
didrocksno need for prenewing?15:29
sil2100didrocks: ah, indicator-location needs preNEWing (almost forgot!), but  webaccounts-browser-extension packages are in distro already15:29
sil2100didrocks: I discussed with Ted and kenvandine and we decided to release it as it is - it doesn't have sufficient integration tests, but it's not used anywhere yet and still waiting for its 'prime time'15:30
sil2100didrocks: so it's safe as it is now15:30
didrockssil2100: ok, need to preNEWing, don't have the time right now TBH ;)15:31
didrockssil2100: start on unity-mir meanwhile maybe?15:31
sil2100didrocks: no problem, the branch can wait ;)15:31
sil2100didrocks: what branches are those for unity-mir ;p?15:32
didrockssil2100: racarr is upstream15:33
sil2100unity-system-compositor?15:33
didrockssil2100: no no, unity-mir15:41
sil2100Ok, I'll poke Robert about it then ;)15:42
sil2100(I don't want to disturb)15:42
mhr3seb128, found a screen recorder that works in s?15:58
seb128mhr3, I didn't try again is grecordmydesktop still broken?15:59
ricotzmhr3, kazam ;)16:00
mhr3seb128, ricotz, neither works for me16:00
ricotzmhr3, then maybe plain avconv16:01
seb128Laney, you said you were reviewing ev's work and the language panel right?16:29
Laneyyes / no :P16:29
seb128Laney, let me know if you want me to have a look16:29
seb128ok, I'm going to review the language one then16:30
Laneysure16:30
Laneydon't hesistate to get a second review if you want one16:31
seb128let's see16:33
seb128my guess is that I'm going to find at least nitpicks so we can get another reviewer for the second iteration ;-)16:33
seb128(same as with ev's one)16:33
seb128time for some exercice, bbl16:37
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Laneyok, I'm off17:11
LaneyTomorrow I'll poke about there being a dialer widget and look at starting a gsettings-touch-schemas package or so, then make some settings persist17:12
Laney\o17:12
sil2100o/17:18
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mterrydesrt, heyo!  I remember some talk about an accountsservice patch to allow arbitrary key/value settings.  Did that ever progress?17:35
sil2100didrocks: hm, quick question!17:36
sil2100didrocks: when and how are the *.ignore files cleaned up?17:36
sil2100didrocks: those that get created by cu2d-skip17:36
didrockssil2100: everyday or everytime you rebuild a full stack17:37
didrocks(without specifying packages)17:37
desrtmterry: ya.  it's landed upstream and in the distro already17:37
didrockssil2100: it's mv <dir> <dir>.bak17:38
desrtmterry: see the 'org.mydm.*' files in http://cgit.freedesktop.org/accountsservice/tree/doc for an example of how to use it17:39
sil2100didrocks: ah, ok, so the whole stack directories are moved, yes?17:39
mterrydesrt, oh swell.  changelog didn't call it out, and I didn't look deeper17:39
mterrydesrt, thanks!17:39
desrtmterry: what are you adding?17:40
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mterrydesrt, nothing yet.  I *might* add a key related to the demo of edge hints on first-boot17:41
mterry(for the phone)17:41
desrtmterry: it's our intention that our current patches for various things like wallpaper, message-count, etc. be migrated over to this interface eventually17:42
desrtif you're mucking around in that area, .... ;)17:42
mterrydesrt, true17:42
desrtwould be nice to nuke some accountservice patches17:42
mterrydesrt, though the beauty of this is that my new keys don't need to bother the accountsservice package  :)17:42
desrtprecisely17:43
desrtbut we still have some old patches there for things before we had this interface17:43
mterryYeah I know17:43
desrtwould be nice to lose those17:43
mterryIf I'm feeling fancy, I'll look at 'em17:43
desrtthanks17:43
desrt(you're always feeling fancy, so this is a high chance)17:44
mptlarsu, hey, remember when Super+M used to open the messaging menu? If that code still exists, then bug 558581 is related to bug 1201679.17:49
ubot2`Launchpad bug 558581 in indicator-applet (Ubuntu) "Indicator-applet forcibly overrides Super+m key combo" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55858117:49
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1201679 in unity (Ubuntu) "ibus' Super+Space shortcut (usually) doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120167917:49
larsumpt: super+m opens the dash for me...17:51
larsuoh, music lens I guess17:51
larsuI'm not aware that super+m ever openend the messaging menu17:51
mptlarsu, exactly. The Dash is trumping the messaging menu in the same way as it's trumping IBus.17:51
mptBut maybe we should just drop Super+M for the messaging menu.17:52
larsumpt: right now the messaging menu doesn't listen to that combo, so I guess it's already dropped :)17:53
larsumaybe _because_ people wanted it for the dash?17:54
* didrocks waves good evening18:10
seb128chrisccoulson, Laney: wth with your country: http://static.pcinpact.com/images/bd/news/136132.png18:17
seb128safari > i.e > chrome > firefox18:17
chrisccoulsonwhat can i say, we've got more money than sense here in the UK ;)18:18
seb128(that's from http://www.atinternet.fr/en/documents/google-chrome-on-the-verge-of-becoming-leader-in-europe/)18:18
davmor2seb128: you got to understand the ignorance of the masses in the UK,  if it's shiny it good, the shiniest products are always the best, and the best shinies are mad be apple, and why install a browser when there is one right there ;)19:01
attentemlankhorst, hey19:37
larsuhm, why do we have gnutls at 3.0.11+really2.12.23-1ubuntu2 ?19:44
* larsu can't compile gnome-settings-daemon master19:44
larsu(which needs >= 3.0)19:44
mdeslaurlarsu: because of licensing issues. gnutls 3.x is in the "gnutls28" package19:47
larsumdeslaur: in saucy? I don't seem to have it.19:47
mdeslaurlarsu: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnutls2819:48
mdeslaurlarsu: problem is, gnome-settings-daemon is in main, and gnutls28 is in universe19:48
larsumdeslaur: hm. Can I just force-install the deb?19:52
mdeslaurlarsu: it can be installed in parallel I believe. now you've got me curious, what uses gnutls in gnome-settings-daemon?19:53
seb128larsu, sudo apt-get install libgnutls28-dev?19:53
larsumdeslaur: I have no idea, configure fails :)19:53
larsuseb128: ah, of course!19:54
mdeslaurperhaps I'm blind...I don't see anything in there related to gnutls...19:55
* mdeslaur looks some more19:55
larsumdeslaur: oops, it was glib-networing, my bad (me is jhbuilding too much tonight)19:56
larsuseb128, mdeslaur: works now, thanks for your help!19:56
seb128yw!19:56
seb128larsu, interesting info though, it means we are going to hit issues with the next update19:56
larsu:)19:57
mdeslaurthey can't even legally link glib-networking, which is GPL 2 to gnutls 3.x which is LGPL320:02
mdeslauroh, maybe it's gpl2+20:03
mdeslauranyway20:03
* mdeslaur goes away20:03
jbichalarsu: I filed https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=704503 for you :)21:19
ubot2`Gnome bug 704503 in network "Reconsider glib-networking dependency on gnutls 3.0" [Critical,Unconfirmed]21:19
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