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slangasekcjwatson: you haven't been bzr push --overwrite'ing lp:~ubuntu-archive/ubuntu-archive-tools/trunk/, have you?  bzr pull tells me I have extra revisions locally which I swear I've pushed twice before00:43
stgraberslangasek: I usually keep that one mostly up to date on my laptop and I'm not seeing an error when updating it here, what commits are you looking for?00:44
slangasekstgraber: commits from 16 Jun00:45
stgraberslangasek: are you sure you pushed them? I'm not seeing them and I last commited to it in late June and never needed --overwrite since (that I can remember at least)00:46
slangasekno, I'm not sure, but I remember doing so :)00:46
* xnox 's last update from Mar 12th, and bzr pull doesn't complain here =)00:47
slangasekok, the problem was that 'bzr push' pushed to the wrong place, huzzah00:48
xnox --remember for the win! =)00:48
slangasekcjwatson: nevermind, pilot error on my side :)00:49
stgraberah yeah, I often get that when I want a change to be reviewed (so pushing to another branch), then forget to reset the push target00:49
slangasekyep00:49
stgraberthough I use bzr push :parent more and more so I'm sure of where I'm pushing ;) (or confirm with bzr info)00:49
slangasekif bzr lp-propose-merge behavior was more sensible, I would probably be less likely to trip over this00:50
stgraber+100:50
xnoxi never got submit / lp-propose-merge to work properly, seems to always propose against the wrong thing or tell me there "no changes to submit"00:51
xnoxi guess i never understood the concept of submit branch....00:51
slangasekxnox: oh, if you bzr push --remember mybranch and bzr pull --remember :parent, it works, and then you forget you've done this and push everything else to the wrong branch ;P00:52
xnoxdon't do that! =)))) *simples*00:52
slangasekthen I have to open my *browser* to submit an MP!  terrible!00:53
slangasekall this software is conspiring against me00:53
xnoxi usually edit inline, if it gets big: cd ../; mv trunk my-feature-branch; bzr branch lp:project trunk00:53
StevenKslangasek: There's a launchpad plugin for bzr that allows you to submit MPs via the command line01:02
xnox=)))))01:07
slangasekStevenK: yes, and its semantics are terrible, see the preceeding discussion ;)02:17
rbasakDaviey: I thought our conclusion was that you were going to accept facter 1.6.5-1ubuntu1.2 into precise-proposed and I'd then verify 1.6.5-1ubuntu1.1 and 1.6.5-1ubuntu1.2 and the other releases all at once?07:23
Davieyrbasak: right, that is what i thought.07:27
Davieyrbasak: is there a hiccup with that?07:27
rbasakDaviey: it's still in the unapproved queue07:28
Davieyrbasak: Gah07:51
rbasakThank you!08:02
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cjwatson*thunk*09:29
cjwatson^- sound of the Apache 2.4 transition landing in saucy09:29
Laney\o/09:29
cjwatsonThat's 115 fewer packages backed up in -proposed09:29
Laneymany removals?09:30
cjwatsonauth-mysql, auth-pgsql, musicindex09:30
infinityBoth mod_auth_sqls?  Really?  Special.09:31
cjwatsonauth-pgsql has a fix which I managed to wake upstream up to review, so hopefully will return soon09:31
cjwatsonauth-mysql I need to work on09:31
infinitycjwatson: Did you come up with some demotion magic, or just doing manual copies and deletes for now?09:31
infinity(Not like copy and delete is hard)09:32
cjwatsonI committed demote-to-proposed now, but be warned, it's fairly rough due to LP bugs09:33
cjwatsonOne of them (auth-pgsql I think) I was unable to demote properly and had to temporarily remove09:33
cjwatsonNeed to sit down and fix LP ...09:33
infinityHrm?  Quel bugs?09:35
infinityI would have assumed it was just a vaguely atomic copy-with-binaries-and-delete (ie: the exact inverse of what britney does)09:35
cjwatsonSometimes it refuses to copy the binaries due to imaginary conflicts.09:36
infinityOh.  Cute.09:36
cjwatsonThis is especially amusing when the binaries have been removed, in which case neither include_binaries=False nor =True works.09:36
cjwatsonBut whichever one it was failed with some other conflict.09:36
cjwatsonDidn't really feel like debugging it at the time, I'm afraid :)09:37
infinityI could see it failing because of old pubs in -proposed, but I thought copying an identical pub over itself was meant to not trip that.09:37
infinityThe binary removal and include bug is fun, though.09:37
cjwatson<PlainPackageCopyJob to copy package libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql from ubuntu/primary, RELEASE pocket, in ubuntu saucy to ubuntu/primary, PROPOSED pocket, in ubuntu saucy, including binaries>09:38
cjwatsonraised CannotCopy:09:39
cjwatsonlibapache2-mod-auth-pgsql 2.0.3-5build3 in saucy (binaries conflicting with the existing ones)09:39
cjwatsonfor the record09:39
cjwatsonIt does work in some cases, but evidently the conflict checker is mad (which I sort of knew)09:39
infinityFun.  I'd probably just cheat by uploading build4 and removing build3, but that's hardly an intuitive workflow.09:39
cjwatsonI just removed build3 and I'll sync it back in when it's fixed in Debian.09:40
rbasak\o/09:50
rbasakThanks cjwatson!09:50
Davieycjwatson: Super on the apache transition!  Thanks.10:22
infinityScottK: You have a debootstrap in precise-backports whose version trumps the more correct one in -updates.  Do you plan to keep backporting newer versions to cope with that, or should we just remove it and let people who installed it hang?10:59
xnoxcjohnston: rbasak: apache2.4 upgrade doesn't go smooth at all. So apache2.4 postinst tries to checkconfig / restart apache, but the sites and modules are not disabled. Since apache is upgraded first, before modules, the resart fails as it can't load up old mpm_prefork / wsgi / php5 / python. Thus one is stuck with broken unconfigured packages and whoopsie/apport popups going crazy =)12:01
xnoxcjwatson: ^12:01
xnoxi had to manually disable all my sites, revert default config, comment out all LoadModules from their *.load files. Then configure apache2, finish off upgrade, re-enabled sites/modules.12:01
* xnox would have thought such dance would be done automagically by apache upgrade.12:02
cjwatsonI can't look at it today.  Hopefully somebody else can12:04
cjwatsonIt's the server team's problem anyway, surely :)12:04
* cjwatson was just helping with the package-level migration12:04
* xnox will probably write to apache2 maintainers12:41
rbasakxnox: my test upgrade worked ok when it was still in -proposed. I'll see if I can reproduce what you're seeing.13:05
xnoxrbasak: just upgrading with default site enabled works fine. it's just i actually had php5, wsgi, python modules installed, enabled and used by my site. (just tiny webapps / single file scripts, nothing fancy)13:07
rbasakxnox: what do we need to do to fix that? All the modules packages to Conflicts: apache2 (<< 2.4)?13:09
rbasakHmm, that wouldn't help actually. New apache with old modules would still be permitted then.13:09
xnoxrbasak: i think that apache2.4 shouldn't restart apache, nor run check-config on upgrade from apache2.2, if modules have not been upgraded yet. but then i'm not sure what will restart apache2 after all modules are upgraded.... we don't quite have post-apt-get-run. maybe a trigger or something like that?!13:13
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slangasekcjwatson: apache2 \o/14:33
mdeslaurapache2 \o/15:00
ScottKinfinity: Sigh.  I don't plan newer backports.  I guess I should fix it.  Thanks for pointing it out.15:25
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jamespageDaviey, re python-neutronclient - that will replace python-quantumclient going forwards and has the appropriate transitional package16:32
jamespagecan you do the NEW acceptance and the main inclusion wiggle?16:32
Davieyjamespage: I'd like it to have an ack from mterry or another MIR'er before processing it16:32
jamespageDaviey, ok16:32
DavieyI have happy to NEW it, but not promote it until it's had a nominal agreement from them16:33
jamespageDaviey, can you reject that NEW package please16:42
jamespagejust spotted an autopkg test issue I may as well solve now rather than later16:42
Davieyjamespage: You said that, seconds after i accepted it16:43
jamespagearggghhhhhh16:43
Daviey^^16:43
jamespagenm16:43
jamespageguess its later then!16:43
Davieyjamespage: I am leaving neutronclient binaries in NEW.  By accepting, i'll introduce the transitional package to main.17:21
cjwatsonCan't you override it to universe if that's what you want?17:23
Davieycjwatson: python-quantumclient is a current package.  This upload has a transitional package which replaces that17:24
DavieySo it will make the current python-quantumclient non-installable17:24
DavieyAs this is essentially a project rename, a quick OK from ~ubuntu-mir was what i was looking for before accepting the binaries17:26
Davieycjwatson: Have another idea?17:26
cjwatsonrenames don't normally require MIR approval17:32
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infinityDaviey: It doesn't requre an MIR, but whoever accepted it should have accepted it to main, not universe. :/18:37
jbichacould an AA look into promoting init-system-helpers? bug 119942218:41
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1199422 in init-system-helpers (Ubuntu) "[MIR] init-system-helpers" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119942218:41
infinityjbicha: As to your wondering about why it's not on component mismatches, you want the much scarier-looking http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.txt18:42
jbichaooh, much nicer18:43
infinityjbicha: And promoted.18:44
stgrabercan someone process that one? (grub signed binary in Unapproved)^20:08
stgraberslangasek: ^20:10
infinityI can.20:12
infinitystgraber: Don't foget a matched grub-signed upload.20:13
infinitystgraber: With my recent change, that should actually block migration until you do.  I hope.20:13
stgraberinfinity: we'll see soon enough ;)20:14
stgraberthanks20:14
ScottKIs it safe to have more than one copy of sru-release running at the same time?20:19
infinityScottK: Define "safe".20:19
ScottKsru-release for KDE SC 4.10.5 packages is up to 15 minutes, and it was only a partial set.20:19
infinityScottK: If multiple SRUs reference the same bug, you'll hit closure races (bug filed for that, but not fixed), and half your copies might fail.20:20
ScottKI'd like to make sure the set always gets released in the same publisher run and with the increased number of packages in 4.11, I wonder if it will get done if it's done one at a time.20:20
infinityScottK: And given our speedups in the publisher, she odds of landing that many things in one cycle are slim.20:21
infinityScottK: You might have to live with the idea that they won't.20:21
ScottKHow often is it running now?20:21
* infinity is also reminded that he needs to send out a "look, it's faster" email.20:21
infinityScottK: Every 5m, at the fastest, realistically, between 10 and 20.20:21
ScottKOK.  That was 17, so I guess it won't.20:21
infinityScottK: Basically, it *tries* to run every 5, but average runs are 10-20, depending on what's publishing.20:22
ScottKYes, that would be good to know.20:22
ScottKRight.20:22
Davieyinfinity: I agree it doesn't require a full MIR, but i simply asked for a quick ack.  It seemed reasonable.20:51

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