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SunStarmaking a lampp server for a php based video sharing cms. need budget server for this and ffmpeg video conversion. I was thinking this server: http://www.pricegrabber.com/computers/servers++hp-proliant-dl380-g6-perf-xeon/m-730172506/#_product_details  ::With this video card::  http://www.pricegrabber.com/computers/video-cards++isilence-radeon-hd-7750-h775p1gd-video-card/m-1018343980/?search=hd+7750#_overview00:18
TheLordOfTimeSunStar:  what's your question?00:21
SunStarwrong room sorry00:21
SunStarbut if some one wants to answer,  i'm wondering if that is a good investment00:22
anepanaliptosanyone know how to get linux to be able to use more than 8 dvb tunrse?00:50
anepanaliptosi can see them all in /dev/dvb/adapterX00:50
anepanaliptosbut when i start vdr, it only sees 800:50
dongshow do I use https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/i386/linux-source-3.5.0/3.5.0-23.3502:05
dongsinstalling it results in a 83megs linux-source-3.5.0.tar.bz2 and 2 debian.* dirs.02:06
dongs...02:07
SonikkuAmericadongs: [ bunzip2 linux-blah-blah-blah.tar.bz2 && tar linux-blah-blah-blah.tar ]02:10
dongsSonikkuAmerica: im well aware of that. why is tehre debian dirs and is the .tar.bz2 the shipped kernel or does it need extra patches or some other crap.02:11
SonikkuAmericadongs: It'll pull in binutils, coreutils and bzip2 (if you don't have them) and it recommends gcc, libc-dev and make02:13
dongsSonikkuAmerica: that doesnt answer my question02:23
dongsit appears the .tar.bz is not the shipped kernel.02:23
dongsbut just generic 3.5.0 sources.02:23
dongsI wante whatever source tree thats used to bulid whatever is "3.5.0-23-generic #35~precise1-Ubuntu"02:24
SonikkuAmericadongs: Hence the term linux-source02:24
dongswrong02:24
dongshttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/i386/linux-source-3.5.0/3.5.0-23.35 -> linux-source-3.5.0_3.5.0-23.35_all.deb (81.4 MiB)02:24
dongsthis implies the patches are included.02:24
SonikkuAmericadongs: They won't be written as 3.5.0-23-generic #35, it they'll be written as 3.5.0 because that's the officially assigned number for them.02:25
dongsso how do I turn this into buildable 3.5.0-23-generic #35~precise1-Ubuntu kernel source tree.02:25
dongs-23-generic is patches.02:25
dongswhich are not included in the .tar.bz2.02:26
dongshttp://bcas.tv/paste/results/VxXbAU76.html I would have expected top of properly patched Makefile to be different02:27
dongsif this kernel tree was to be used to build 3.5.0-23.3502:28
dongsso.02:28
dongsand there isn't even a .config02:29
SonikkuAmericaIf you wish to learn how to compile a kernel from source, here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile02:29
dongsi dont need to build a dep of new kernel.02:30
dongsall I want is 1) source tree matching precisely the kernel version dispalyed by uname, which I can build. thats all.02:30
dongsdep=deb02:30
dongsorw ahtever.02:30
dongsit seems there's bits and pieces of .config spread around debian.master/* dir02:32
SonikkuAmericaWell, I dunno anything beyond that.02:34
dongsi wish lunix would stop fucking with official releases of shit so I can just download it and use it02:34
dongsinstead of having to figure out some idiotic distro specific way to do stuff.02:34
SonikkuAmerica!langauge | And FYI, dongs, it's the other way around02:35
ubottuAnd FYI, dongs, it's the other way around: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.02:35
dongs* 1000 for every non-irrelevant distro, and its quickly obvious why no serious manufacturer wants to do drivers for their device in lunix.02:35
dongsso back to my original question02:38
dongswhat is the simplest way to get a buildable kernel source tree for a given ubuntu-patched kernel version.02:38
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dongs Q: what is the simplest way to get a buildable kernel source tree for a given ubuntu-patched kernel version.. I don't want to build a .deb or anything. Just the patched source, which, if built, would result in the binary identical to currently running kernel.05:01
ScottKdongs: apt-get source linux should do it.05:22
dongsexcept it doesnt05:22
ScottKRight, because linux is also the name of a binary provided by linux-meta.05:25
ScottKInstall the ubuntu-dev-tools package and then pull-lp-source linux $RELEASENAME05:25
ScottKThat will get it, i just checked.05:25
maxbYou could also use 'apt-get source --only-source linux' for a pure apt way of doing it05:26
dongsI want *exact* source used to build whatever uname -r reports.05:28
dongswehn I follow sutff in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/KernelGitGuide or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel it ends up wiht Makefile that doesn't specify exact kernel version.05:29
dongsfor example what i get from git step is http://bcas.tv/paste/results/VxXbAU76.html05:29
dongsthat is NOT 3.5.0-23 or whatever.05:29
ScottKEither what maxb said or what I did should do that.05:34
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yolandajamespage : https://code.launchpad.net/~yolanda.robla/ubuntu/saucy/rrdtool/lua5.2/+merge/17547409:01
rbasakjamespage: golang stripping now removed in Debian as well. The maintainer also dropped golang-dbg as it is empty now, which I missed in Ubuntu. Something to do in the next upload, or are we going to sync at some point?09:12
jamespagerbasak, if we can get infinity's elf header fixup into Debian as well then we can move back to syncs09:13
jamespagerbasak, I'd not spend the buildd cycles just removing the -dbg package for the time being09:13
jamespagerbasak, I'd forgotten todo that09:14
jamespagerbasak, that should go upstream as well if possible09:14
jamespage(might be in golang 1.1.2 which is due in august)09:15
rbasakjamespage: yeah sure, not worth dropping -dbg in a separate upload, but perhaps if we need another one. Is infinity's patch upstream?09:19
jamespageno sure09:20
jamespagenot sure rather09:20
jamespagerbasak, i rebuilt the failed armhf build for juju-core - that now looks OK in saucy09:54
rbasakGreat!09:56
jamespagerbasak, I wonder whether we should not be stripping that binary either09:58
rbasakI'm writing a call-for-testing email for PHP 5.5. Do we have any documentation for users on how to test server things in the development release? Tools like LXC make this easy, so it'd be nice to point to a guide for doing this.10:05
rbasakjamespage: AIUI, we shouldn't be stripping any go binaries at all.10:05
jamespagerbasak, yeah10:05
jamespagerbasak, almost like we heed dh-go10:06
rbasakMaybe even have a lintian warning for that10:06
jamespagetodo all this stuff for us10:06
rbasakThat'd be even better :)10:06
jamespagerbasak, I'll fixup the stripping in the next upload to saucy10:06
jamespage(for juju-core)10:06
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jamespageadam_g, roaksoax: I pushed by openstack-dashboard redux branch to lp:~openstack-charmers/charms/precise/openstack-dashboard/python-redux10:27
jamespageI think I have most things covered; unit testing of hook/contexts/utils is 100%10:28
jamespageadam_g, roaksoax: a few comments - I pushed my unit tests into 'unit_tests' - tests is reserved for integration tests using amulet10:30
jamespageI used '_hooks.py' instead of _relations as I thought this represented its content better10:31
jamespageI also added setup.cfg and .coveragerc to tweak how testing and coverage reporting was done10:31
jamespageadam_g, zul: we need to resync the havana trunk testing PPA from havana staging - there is lots missing now10:59
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jamespagerbasak, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/juju-core/1.11.2-0ubuntu1/+build/478669212:00
jamespagewoot12:00
jamespage\o/12:00
\shtjaalton, ping how do we address the issue of raring/saucy and freeipa client 3.1.x not working with a 3.0.0 server (like on RHEL/CentOS 6)12:13
roaksoaxzul: so conf.d no longer exists in apache2.4?12:14
zulroaksoax:  nope12:14
roaksoaxzul: great! that breaks maas12:14
zulroaksoax:  there is a transition writeup on the debian wiki12:14
roaksoaxzul: do you have a link12:14
roaksoax?12:14
zulyeah gimme a sec12:15
zulroaksoax:  http://wiki.debian.org/Apache/PackagingFor2412:16
roaksoaxzul: thanks!12:16
wiherekhi12:59
wiherekyesterday I was installing ruby and I created a file .bash_profile12:59
zuljamespage:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/ceilometer/ceilometer-tests/+merge/175553 <-- part 1 for enabling the tests in ceilometer13:05
jamespagezul, btw I noticed this earlier13:06
jamespagepython-oslo.config:13:07
jamespage  Installed: 1:1.2.0a3-1ubuntu113:07
jamespagezul, 1.2.0 will be challenging13:07
jamespage:-)13:07
jamespage(~)13:07
zuljamespage:  nnnngnnnnh13:09
jamespagezul, https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/python-cinderclient/1.0.4/+merge/17556313:40
zuljamespage:  you did dch --release && debcommit --release correct?13:41
jamespagezul, missed the last one - done now and pushed13:42
zuljamespage:  thanks13:42
jamespagezul, and https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/python-cinderclient/re-enable-trunk/+merge/17556613:52
zulyolanda:  can you get python-swiftclient 1.5.0  ready for upload?13:53
jamespagerestores fixes back fro trunk.13:53
zuljamespage:  +113:53
jamespagezul, no new upstream release of glanceclient - should I push the current snapshot in the changelog?13:55
zuljamespage:  yeah we should have the dep8 tests available for wider use13:55
yolandazul, oh, i did an MP for 1.4.0-2, has it changed to 1.5?13:56
zulyolanda:  yeah i rejected the MP for 1.4.0-2 we dont merge openstack stuff from debian, can you get the new tarball from pypi and get 1.5.0 MP ready13:57
yolandazul, ok13:58
koolhead17hi all13:59
jamespagehey koolhead1714:05
koolhead17howdy jamespage14:05
koolhead17hello zul :)14:07
zulhi14:08
yolandazul, having some problems building, seems that isn't cleaning properly: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5887688/14:18
zulyolanda:  can you add python-d2to1 an python-pbr to the build depends and try again14:19
koolhead17jamespage: am waiting for your signal to start testing havana pkgs :D14:19
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yolandazul, they are in the build-depends already14:20
jamespagekoolhead17, well havana1 is all in the Cloud Archive already14:20
jamespagekoolhead17, we are working towards havana2 right now14:20
zulyolanda:  wha?14:20
jamespagenext week for landing inthe cloud-archive14:20
zulyolanda:  *sigh* ill have a look14:20
koolhead17jamespage: cool. will start deploying & testing it per package then14:21
jamespagezul, yolanda: just install those packages locally or build the source package with '-nc'14:21
jamespagebzr bd -S -- -nc14:21
yolandalet me try14:22
yolandaworks14:22
yolandai will have to be used to build with -nc14:22
stethoCan anyone point me to some instructions for setting up a PXE server to install 12.04 - I've found some instructions for doing it on 8 or 9 which I can't get to work and the few bits I've found on 12.04 don't work because the file structure on the ISOs uses aliases which seems to break the TFTP server. To clarify - it's not the setting up of the PXE server I need help with, it's the adding 12.04 Server to it.14:27
rbasak8 or 9?14:31
rbasakstetho: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/ for amd64 netboot kernel and initrd. Just get those loaded. Setting up PXE/TFTP isn't Ubuntu-specific at all.14:32
rbasakThere's a pxelinux.cfg example there too14:32
rbasakOr if you don't want to do it by hand, use maas :)14:32
jamespagezul, https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/python-glanceclient/havana2/+merge/17559014:32
stethorbasak - that's the problem - I've used that but it doesn't work. I have a PXE server that installs Centos, VMWare and Ubuntu 10 but I can't get 12.04 to work. (Or 13 for that matter). From the ISOs I get file not found error which are evidently because the ISOs use symbolic links to directories like boot-screens. Getting the files from the apt repo that you've linked to gives me "violation errors" during the boot up even if everything is 777 and owned 14:38
stethotftpd. As I said - never had these problems with other versions. I'm missing some magical step somewhere.14:38
rbasakstetho: try writing a minimal pxelinux.cfg directly, pointing directly to the TFTP paths for the kernel and initrd files you've downloaded. Then there can't be any symlink issues.14:40
zuljamespage:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/ceilometer/ceilometer-fix-tests/+merge/17559614:41
yolandazul: https://code.launchpad.net/~yolanda.robla/ubuntu/saucy/python-swiftclient/1.5.0/+merge/17559214:41
zulyolanda:  you didnt propose against the lp:~ubutnu-server-dev/python-swiftclient/havana branches14:43
yolandaoh14:43
yolandayou are right14:44
yolanda-1 for me :(14:44
yolandabut zul, then 1.5.0 version is already merged14:47
yolandalatest changelog: python-swiftclient (1:1.5.0.2.gc460ebf-0ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low14:47
yolandai just push to saucy?14:47
zulyolanda:  yes change the 1:1.5.0.2.gc460ebf-0ubuntu1 to 1:1.5.0-0ubuntu1 and then change the UNRELEASED to saucy14:48
yolandazul, shorter MP: https://code.launchpad.net/~yolanda.robla/python-swiftclient/havana_1.5.0/+merge/17559914:59
hadifarnoudwhen I ssh to my ubuntu box, I get ^[[A^[[B^[[C^[[D for arrow keys. how can I fix it?15:15
RoyKhadifarnoud: on the console?15:18
hadifarnoudyes RoyK. using OSX terminal15:18
RoyKtry "echo $TERM"15:18
RoyKI use OS X and ti works well15:19
hadifarnoudxterm-256color15:19
hadifarnoudI guess it's my server15:19
RoyKwhat shell are you using?15:19
hadifarnoudworks fine on any other server15:19
hadifarnoudzsh15:19
hadifarnoudon local15:19
hadifarnoudbash on server15:19
RoyKhm... works for me15:20
hadifarnoudRoyK: correction15:20
hadifarnoudI'm not using bash on server15:20
hadifarnoudwhen I typed "bash"15:21
hadifarnoudeverything's fine15:21
RoyKwhich shell are you using on the server?15:21
RoyKtry ps $$15:21
hadifarnoud13195 pts/1    Ss     0:00 -sh15:22
RoyKif it shows dash or -sh, then you're using dash, which is a minimal shell enabled by default for some rather bizarre reason15:22
RoyKso chsh -s /bin/bash (or zsh if you like)15:22
zuljamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/ceilometer/ceilometer-fix-tests/+merge/17559615:23
hadifarnoudthanks RoyK. after a relogin it worked15:23
RoyKhadifarnoud: you can change the default in /etc/adduser.conf with the DSHELL setting15:25
RoyKor variable, that is15:25
hadifarnoudok15:25
RoyKdash is useless IMHO15:25
hadifarnoudyeah. that's why I use zsh locally15:29
hadifarnoudanyone has experience with git deploy? it's kind of painful to ssh into server and git pull.15:38
rbasakssh into server and git pull? Why not just use git push? I use a tiny post-receive hook to keep the working directory at the far end synced with master.15:39
zulyolanda:  i pushed swiftclient 1.5.0....thanks15:44
yolandazul, easy one15:44
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jsonperlPatrickdk, jemalloc is amazing15:54
jsonperlwent from slowly creeping up above 1gb per server, to a solid 300mb without growth15:55
jsonperli put it in production on every machine15:55
patdk-wknice15:55
jsonperlnow to see if it magically fixes my other problem15:56
gyre007are there any quirks I should be aware of before setting up Striped LVM logical volume ?16:09
gyre007or...has anyone ever st this up ?16:12
gyre007*set16:12
jamespagezul: https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/python-neutronclient/havana2/+merge/17562916:22
zuljamespage:  if python-neutronclient is a new binary then the epoch is not needed isnt it?16:23
jamespagezul, I was pondering that myself16:23
zuljamespage:  i dont think it does16:24
jamespagezul, no - it is because we provide a transitional package for python-quantumclient16:24
zuljamespage:  ok16:24
jamespageotherwise the binary upload would be rejected post build16:24
zulgotcha16:24
zuljamespage:  +116:25
zulwh00t ceilometer down to 17 failures16:28
brendandare the instructions here intended to work in raring: https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/getting-started.html#test?16:34
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jcastroyep16:43
jcastrobrendand: which part isn't working for you?16:43
brendandjcastro, in the version of juju i got, generate-config doesn't exist16:44
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jcastrocan you ensure that `juju-core` is installed and not `juju`?16:46
brendandjcastro, aha16:47
jcastro\o/ that should sort you out16:47
brendandjcastro, i gave in to the temptation to just apt-get install juju without reading the installation section :/16:48
jcastroyeah, that's a common problem16:48
jcastrounfortunate package rename16:48
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zuljamespage:  shit...apache2 2.4 transition for horizon (just remembered)17:19
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Davieyzul: What is the current status on h-2 in saucy?17:27
zulDaviey:  we should be ready for tomorrow17:27
Davieyzul: super.  Please can you give me a shout if it looks like it won't happen?17:28
zulDaviey:  yep17:28
Davieyta17:28
zuljamespage/adam_g: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/horizon/apache-transition/+merge/17564117:29
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koolhead17w0ahh one of the first mails in list from zul :)17:39
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resnoi have a server thats toppping out on its amount of space, in the past. i expanded the space and then booted the server in livecd and used gparted to add more space... is this a good method?18:31
MindsEyeresno, that's a great method. also consider formatting the drive for more space18:32
resnoformatting or an erasing the content i need?18:33
resnoas in*18:33
resnoits in a vm, so the host server has the space18:33
lindomarI need help with crontab18:48
lindomarVc pode me ajudar com o crontab?18:50
sarnoldlindomar: you can ask here (best in english) -- or try in #ubuntu-pt if you want..18:51
jsonperlresno: if you're using LVM you can resize it while running19:00
resnojsonperl: i am not using crontab19:01
breed111Hi guys, I have been looking all over for this answer, and it is driving me crazy.  I have cloud-init on 12.04.2 aws and the ulimit from /limits.conf is not being applied on cloud-final script... It's really driving me crazy, is pam_limits not loaded in cloud-init, where should i increase nofiles limits for cloud-init scripts?19:16
sarnoldbreed111: if they're shell scripts, can you just add the appropriate 'ulimit' command in place?19:17
sarnoldbreed111: if they are upstart scripts, you can manage limits 'natively': http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#limit19:17
breed111@sarnold, i tried that ulimit in shell script, but it is launching a twistd daemon from the shell, and I don't think the twistd daemon is inheriting the limits19:18
breed111sarnold: I'll try that again19:19
sarnoldbreed111: does the script run as root? a process needs CAP_SYS_RESOURCE to raise its hard limits19:21
breed111sarnold: the script runs as sudo -i -u ubuntu19:22
breed111hmm19:23
sarnoldbreed111: aha, check /etc/pam.d/sudo, make sure the pam_limits is in the call stack somewhere..19:23
breed111sarnold: this is what the pam.d/sudo looks like - http://pastebin.com/BHKHkLAD19:25
breed111sarnold: this method / script used to do find in 11.04, but we upgraded server to 12.04 and now does not19:26
breed111ok i am putting in session required pam_limits19:27
MindsEyewhat can I do with ubuntu server?19:27
sarnoldbreed111: hrm, I don't see any pam_limits.so in my /etc/pam.d/common-* files -- I think it's just not there.19:27
sarnoldbreed111: yeah, sounds like a good idea.19:28
breed111sarnold: thanks19:28
sarnoldbreed111: (have a root shell open while testing!)19:28
breed111sarnold: that worked thanks - how would a root shell open help tho?19:32
sarnoldbreed111: so that if you break something you have a command line available to fix it. :)19:32
breed111:_)19:33
sarnoldBTDT, now I recommend it to folks fiddling with PAM and AppArmor policies on login services, fiddling with firewall rules, etc. :)19:33
resnowhen setting up a authoritative name server, do you self host or pay a company?20:11
ScottKUnless you know what you're doing, pay someone.20:11
resnowho do you suggest?20:12
sarnoldmany registrars offer it as a service20:12
resnowe presently use netwokr soltuions, but i kinda distrust doing that20:12
resnoi read they were ddos recently20:13
sarnoldresno: see also e.g. http://www.gandibar.net/post/2012/03/02/DNSSEC-at-Gandi20:13
hallynsmoser: hey, just to make sure that what i'm seeing makes sense:  if I start an ubuntu-cloud container with user-data setting password for user ubuntu, and that container does not have networking, then cloud-init will never set the password for user ubuntu, is that right?20:43
smosero.20:43
hallyni.e. if no network, then user-data does not get executed?20:43
smoserit depends.20:43
smoserit could.20:43
smoserjust a minute20:44
hallynk20:44
smoserin /usr/share/lxc/templates/lxc-ubuntu-cloud20:44
smoser        seed_d=$rootfs/var/lib/cloud/seed/nocloud-net20:44
smoserif you make that /var/lib/cloud/seed/nocloud (dropping '-net')20:44
smoserthen it will be found as a local datasource20:45
smoserand will not depend on netowrking at all.20:45
* hallyn tries20:45
smoserbut in the images as they boot is going to block waiting on a eth0 to come up20:46
smoser(due to /etc/network/interfaces having eth0) and portions of boot needing static-networking or the like20:46
hallynsmoser: thanks - the parcelling of network bits is the only thing not yet done for unprivileged contaienr create/start - I just wanted to make sure I wasn't unable to log in due to something else I effed up20:47
smosersince you brought this up..20:47
smoserubuntu-cloudimg-query $release $stream $arch --format "%{url}\n"20:47
hallyn(waiting 120s for upstart :)20:47
smoseryou're waiting for static-networking-emitted20:48
hallynyes20:48
hallynjust saying, after that i can confirm whether i can log in :)20:48
smoseryeah. you could actually add a boothook in user-data to cloud-init that (i think).... fixed that.20:48
smosermaybe20:48
smoserso that eth0 wouldn't show up20:48
smoserbut dont know for sure.20:48
hallyni coudl probably just emit the event :)20:49
hallynsmoser: but what where you going to say about 'ubuntu-cloudimg-query $release $stream $arch --format "%{url}\n"' ?20:49
smoserwell. i was going to say that we could change that to use sstream-sync20:49
smoserbut probably the better thing woudl be to make ubuntu-cloudimg-query use that20:49
smoser(should have said sstream-query, not sstream-sync)20:49
hallynsmoser: good point, if that's doable20:50
hallynas for changes to te template itself, so far I'm still letting utlemming be the owner...20:50
hallynwaiting for him to tell me he has no time20:50
hallynuntil then i don't want to step on toes20:50
smoserwhered we get with cirros?20:51
hallynsmoser: it's upstream20:51
hallyngit://github.com/lxc/lxc has templates/lxc-cirros.in20:51
hallynI actually haven't tested it lately with unprivileged - I"ll test that20:52
hallynwoohoo, i'm logged in20:52
hallyncompletely created/started without privilege20:52
smosernice work hallyn.20:53
hallynoh no, but lxc-cirros is brokewn20:53
smoser$ sstream-query --max=1 http://download.cirros-cloud.net/ ftype=lxc.tar.gz "arch~(x86_64|amd64)" --output-format="%(item_url)s"20:53
smoserhttp://download.cirros-cloud.net/0.3.1/cirros-0.3.1-x86_64-lxc.tar.gz20:53
smoserhttp://download.cirros-cloud.net/0.3.2~pre1/cirros-0.3.2~pre1-x86_64-lxc.tar.gz20:53
hallynhow did that happen.20:53
hallynoO20:53
hallynthat's my eyes glazing over20:54
hallynsmoser: do you want to send a patch for lxc to switch to that?20:54
hallynI need to patch it to recognize '--rootfs'20:54
smosernot rigth now. but, yeah, thats the kind of thing that we want to do.20:54
smoser--rootfs ?20:54
hallynyeah - to specify where the backing store is mounted when the template runs.20:56
hallyn(it's not necessarily the same as lxc.rootfs in the configuration file)20:56
hallynlxc-create always passes it to the templates now.  cirros breaks when it sees it20:56
hallynsmoser: you're such a perfectionist, i figure you'll have som einput on this:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5888828/21:08
smoserlooks good i think. just reaading it.21:11
smosermake sure you got indentation right21:11
smoser(tabs or spaces, whatever i did)21:11
hallynyup i'm using 4 spaces21:14
delinquentmesay i've got a device running on an ubuntu server ... this interface allows people to interact with a device ... and I'd like to only allow one device interaction at a time22:42
delinquentmewhere should this be done?22:43
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