[06:09] morning peeps [06:15] morning Kilos [06:15] hi superfly all good? [06:15] hi Xethron [06:16] yah [06:16] good [06:37] hi [06:37] hi bomberman [07:04] yo JoTraGo [07:17] tumbleweed: [07:17] hi Vince-0 zeref [07:17] hi Kilos [07:34] hi Kilos [07:54] Morning everyone [07:54] hi mazal [07:54] Kilos: By the way, mazal on freenode told me "tell Kilos dankie" 32 seconds ago [07:54] hi psyatw [07:54] More oom [07:55] Maaz: You are so cute [07:55] mazal: I already know stuff about You [07:55] kry gou jou kubuntu iso [07:55] No not me !! [07:55] Silly bot [07:55] hi Kilos [07:55] hehe [07:55] hi mazal [07:55] Kilos, I think I will tonight , must add data first [07:55] Hi psyatw [07:56] Then maybe I get time this weekend to install [07:56] cant you get it at work [07:56] I can [07:56] and dont forget all the 12.04 packages [07:56] Don't like adding data on work account though , more difficult to use up data here [07:57] ai! [07:57] Oh but wait ! I forgot , with my new ISP topups roll over :-) [07:57] Gonna get on it now ;-) [07:57] hehe [07:59] Oom het nou 'n ding begin met die K saam [07:59] ek hou daarvan [08:01] net met unity is desktop voor my, my kde ene moet ek altyd soek [08:01] Gonna bother you a lot for help with K [08:01] as jy instaleer is dit daar maar ek het iets gedoen nou is dit begrawe [08:02] Ok , download started [08:13] good day ubuntu-za [08:13] hi magespawn ` [08:13] Morning magespawn [08:14] Oom Kilos , looks like it won't be finished before I go home. But is ok , won't have time tonight anyways [08:14] wow thats a poor intenet you got [08:15] Yeah at work it's a little 384k. ETA jumps between 5 and 6 hours [08:16] i thougt all the lines got upgrade automatically [08:16] if it can run at 350 it will be done before hometime [08:16] Only residential [08:16] Just another way Telkom cashes in [08:17] Company lines you still have 384k at entry level and must pay more for faster line [08:17] eish [08:17] skelms [08:18] but thats a govt institution [08:18] Irrelevant [08:18] Is still not residential [08:18] For them it's a company account [08:19] ai! [08:19] ADSL data prices is really good , but the Telkom side with the lines is plain daylight robbery. Especially if you look at the price jumps between the lines [08:25] i want somebody to explain to me why we pay more for faster speed, is the the excange connection? [08:29] hi tonberry352_ [08:29] http://mybroadband.co.za/news/broadband/82233-adsl-prices-south-africa-vs-developed-nations.html [08:39] zeref: hi [08:39] sorry, been ignoring this channel a bit [08:41] hi tumbleweed hows things going by you? [08:42] not so bad [09:16] tumbleweed: I'm trying to upload to my ppa via dput, i get No host ppa found in config. [09:17] in the dput file I've put in http://pastebin.com/psGtPAC2. [09:17] but i still get that error. [09:18] btw, i'm on a debian machine. [09:18] zeref: install dput-ng [09:21] ok, now i get running allowed-distribution: check whether a local profile permits uploads to the target distribution [09:21] `precise' not in the codename group [09:25] zeref: pastebin? [09:25] I don't see any codename restriction in /etc/dput.d/profiles/ppa.json [09:27] I dont understand. [09:28] zeref: oh, I hadn't read your dput configuration properly [09:28] that should have worked with old dput too [09:29] but dput-ng can use the ppa:zerefs/ppa syntax [09:29] which means that you don't need to put every PPA you use into your .dput.cf [09:33] ok, so with regards to the precise in the codename group? [09:35] zeref: I can't explain that [09:35] but it would help if you pastebinned your changes file, the command line, and output [09:37] hi all [09:38] magespawn: it's hard to draw any conclusions out of that report because you need to look at the overall quality of service [09:38] hi charl [09:38] magespawn: you also need to take into consideration reliability, uptime, protocol shaping, time-of-the-day, etc [09:39] magespawn: talking about "advertised" speed is nonsense [09:39] hi Kilos :) [09:39] hi charl [09:39] still seems like we are on the high end of the prices [09:40] for example, i have a 60mbps connection from ziggo, costs me 50 euro per month, but i have no data limits or shaping and consistent speed all through the day [09:40] and near 100% uptime [09:40] so even though the speed is disappointing, it's not a bad connection [09:42] 60mbps , dissapointing :-o , Shees what should we say ? [09:43] well with ftth you usually start at around 100mbps and go upwards but we don't have ftth (yet) where i live [09:44] for "normal" terms 60mbps is lagging behind i feel [09:44] tumbleweed: http://pastebin.com/ADq6qgP8 [09:44] well that would be about R650.00, i currently pay about R640.00 for 1Mbps no data limits withn the fair usage and port shaping during the day [09:44] the fastest my exchange can handel is 4mbps [09:44] but that will almost double the cost [09:45] magespawn: "fair use" is not "uncapped", that's complete nonsense marketing [09:45] uncapped means no data limits, period. [09:45] "fair use" is just a nice term coined to say "we won't entirely cut you off but watch yourself" [09:46] zeref: try without that ppa block in your .dput.cf (or just move that file out of the way entirely) [09:46] well i have not it it yet, but with that speed i have practical limits to how much i can get anyway [09:46] yeah that's a hidden benefit :) [09:57] There's no such thing as uncapped in SA [10:01] they could rather do it like in belgium, give people 300gb or 400gb per month, should be enough for most people anyway [10:01] and that be the end of it [10:17] It has begun :( Peak temp day before yesterday - 44degC, yesterday 46degC and today it spiked to 55degC... [10:17] send lots not_found [10:17] so its too much to steal and make a diffs [10:20] if I could export it we could have been rich :p [10:21] not_found: where the heck do you live, the desert? [10:21] charl: yup [10:22] and it is only the beginning of the second week of Ramadan so the guys fasting are having a tough time of it... [10:47] hehe [10:48] too hot too eat anyway [10:48] charl, hes in the UAE [10:48] how about a drink of water... to hot for that? :p [10:50] but all kidding aside, 55 is silly hot :/ [10:51] and then at night it stays about 33degC and humidity at even sillier levels... [10:51] silly summer [10:51] * not_found is looking at https://www.system76.com/laptops/model/galu1 ... [10:52] if only I could convince myself it is worth all that money :/ [10:58] whew [10:59] not_found, any reply from the job seeking? [11:06] it is still in the planning phase uncle Kilos... got a man on the inside so once he is convinced I should "officially [11:06] apply I will [11:06] ah [11:07] but at least I have a better CV now (perhaps) so I can send it out to random other jobs... [11:07] good [11:09] ah ok, i get it [11:09] yeah that's desert temperatures all right [11:09] not my thin - it's 25 degrees here and already too hot for my taste [11:10] *thing [11:10] lol [11:22] :) [11:23] zeref: you get anywhere? [11:31] not_found: i like the look of the 14" but with the system specs i would take it would be $1619.00 [11:32] which would be about R16000, so pricey to say the least [11:38] tumbleweed: nope, I'll just upload it via my ubuntu machine [11:38] till i can figure it out [11:39] the dput-ng maintainers are very friendly and chatty on IRC [11:44] magespawn: I hear you... I would like to have 16gb ram and a microSSD + 1tb drive and perhaps a spare battery :/ [11:44] to much money :( [11:49] morning [11:49] hmm [11:49] afternoon [11:49] time flies when you're on leave :/ [11:50] lo Squirm [11:50] +1 [11:50] but once you are back at work all the time comes back :/ [11:52] not_found: it is unfortunately true :/ [11:52] though it seems to happen for a longer time than the time you were on leave [11:55] like it is breeding... bunny rabbit time :( [11:55] http://antiprism.eu/ [11:55] so there a parite party in SA yet? [11:56] *pirate [11:57] never mind, I see all they have is a Facebook page >.< [11:58] there is a religion, in Sweden(ofcourse) [11:58] Kopatheism(I think it is spelled) [11:59] copyism [11:59] Kopimism [12:08] wow awesome! https://www.change.org/petitions/eu-parliament-and-eu-commission-stop-mass-surveillance-protect-our-data-and-our-whistleblowers [12:09] signed immediately :) [12:09] still shows 0 supporters for me :p [12:10] it says Signed [12:10] with 37,673 supporters 12,327 NEEDED [12:10] for me [12:10] i don't know how this works exactly [12:12] extremely interesting: http://www.islandsofresilience.eu/ [12:18] why so long... looks like work :/ [12:18] :p [12:18] i just scanned through most of it [12:19] Mr. v Niekerk, your vote has been counted, we thank you - NSA [12:19] ? [12:20] >.> [12:21] not_found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came... [12:22] i don't know where you come from but in europe we have democracy [12:23] they have that in the US too (aparently) [12:23] *apparently [12:23] right... :P [12:23] well we all see how that's going [12:24] and you are sure that big buddy UK isn't in on some surveillance action? [12:24] I know that France has been exposed to be harvesting info from phone calls , text messages etc.... [12:25] just how far does the rabbit whole go... [12:25] hole [12:25] sheese [12:25] not_found: http://pastebin.com/NTJvUZdJ [12:25] you start pulling on a thread and the whole thing unravels [12:26] http://www.businessinsider.com/the-guardian-wayne-madsen-nsa-scoop-2013-6 [12:27] thing is now everyone knows it is happening... what will happen? Perhaps it just becomes legal now or the new systems are done even more covert... [12:28] anyhow I would love to see all of the petitions flying around actually making something happen... would be refreshing [12:29] the pirate party, as controversial as they are, has lead a bunch of things in europe so far [12:29] well good for them then :) [12:31] messed up world - http://www.change.org/petitions/release-my-son-justin-carter-being-prosecuted-for-a-facebook-comment [12:32] scary that [12:35] i'm off, have a good day all [12:39] finally got my quadcopter working properly [12:39] Squirm: camera and you can use a phone to control it? [12:40] not_found: got a proper quadcopter, not one of these little au drone things [12:41] and have mounted my keychain camera [12:41] doesn't take the best of video, but soon I'll have my autopilot and attach a Hero 3 [12:41] ah cool [12:42] not_found: http://www.youtube.com/MrSquirm [12:43] @work so no tubes for me... sorry [12:43] later then :P [12:45] perhaps :) [12:54] Bye all , have a nice evening [12:57] afternoon all [12:58] not_found: reading the backscroll, i know the uk border police can seize your electonic device on entry, and reatind the data indefinately [12:59] they have to return the device thoug [12:59] h [13:04] and now I read how many agencies are working on algorithms to pre-determine things like people likely to commit a crime etc... Minority Report is upon us... [13:04] * not_found is going home now and staring at his Windows PC wondering who is staring back >.< [13:04] bye [13:42] hmm [13:42] not a bad video [13:42] though the camera is lacking [15:16] hehe inetpro werk jy darem nou [15:16] uh [15:17] hehe [15:17] huis toe gaan tyd man [15:19] hi [15:19] hi theblazehen [15:19] Kilos: ai, jy's seker reg [15:19] altyd [16:25] hi mazal [16:25] wat pla nou === Cantide is now known as CantideAFK [16:47] mazal, ping [16:58] * Squirm yawns [17:01] Reported an ADSL fault on Tuesday. Telkom came and (seemingly) fixed it today. [17:02] seeminly? [17:02] hehe [17:02] they actually inna bad way [17:03] their tracking service aint working either [17:03] if you try go to the home page you get a 404 error [17:10] Kilos, pong [17:10] ha [17:10] if i am right you gotta be careful with boot-repair from another drive hey [17:10] And the score is 1 - 1 in the final and deciding set [17:11] it will always want to boot from there after running it [17:11] Kilos, how you mean ? [17:11] huh? [17:12] ok i have tried it with 2 drives installed and if i remove the first drive i cant boot from the second one [17:12] Oh you mean if I do a grub repair ? [17:12] ya the boot-repair tool [17:12] Then grub is on the first drive [17:12] One must just be sure where you point it [17:12] i saw you say you want to install boot-repair to the external [17:13] Ya , but will still point repair to sda1 if needed [17:13] rahter run fsck from the external i think [17:13] ok lemme know [17:13] As long as grub goes to sda and you don't remove sda you will be ok [17:14] ya but will the external then still be bootable after it [17:14] Yes , external is sdb [17:14] ok [17:14] And as long as you don't point to it , it will be left alone [17:15] Sam as booting from cd [17:15] i run boot-repair with nothing else plugged in [17:15] morning [17:15] hi trender [17:15] yo [17:15] One must just not confuse your drives and be sure where you point. Same as with an install really [17:15] Lo trender [17:15] ok [17:16] lo mazal [17:17] Anything else you can think of for that install Kilos ? [17:17] If I knew how to compile I would add Redo , but don't know compiling [17:17] no if its a repair drive then you dont need much more [17:17] fsck fixes lots [17:17] I really can't think of anything else [17:18] did you get kde? [17:18] I hope so [17:18] ah its at work [17:18] Was still busy when I left [17:19] did you wget it [17:19] With this new plan though will take a bit longer to get to that plan [17:19] or use windows to download [17:19] Downthemall , firefox [17:19] ah [17:20] I kinda like downthemall , just wish it could schedule [17:20] hehe [17:20] Is always my first firefox plugin I add [17:36] coff* coff* getright === CantideAFK is now known as Cantide [17:42] http://www.ubuntu.com/ [17:42] is it just me [17:42] or will there be an announcement in 4 days? [17:42] 'o' [17:42] hi Cantide [17:42] hello Kilos :) [17:53] trender, that's a Win app [18:32] Cantide I think it will be Ubuntu phone related again. Pc and phone sharing something [18:32] yeah, probably [18:33] i am curious :) [18:34] " At the moment, the developers are working on developing, strengthening and refining Unity 8, Ubuntu converged component that will unite phones, desktops, tablets and TVs via a modern, polished and user-friendly look & feel. " [18:34] An extract from an Iloveubuntu blog post [18:35] Think it has something to do with it , that unite part [18:36] i'm dying to see Unity 8's desktop mode [18:36] but i believe they're focusing on the mobile versions at the moment [18:36] Yeah unfortynately [18:36] Everything is about mobile and the desktops don't get love [18:38] yeah T-T [18:38] well, i am quite keen to get my hands on it :) [18:38] maybe my next phone? :D [18:38] Maybe that will be the day I invest in a smartphone [18:39] So far I been old-school with phones [18:40] I'm going horizontal [18:40] Night everyone [18:40] night mazal [18:40] sleep tight [18:41] Dankie , lekker slaap oom [18:41] dankie [18:41] night mazal [18:41] ... [18:41] i was too slow -.- [18:41] hehe [18:59] good morning [18:59] morning inetpro [19:00] * inetpro stretches his self [19:00] what's up in Ubuntu land? [19:00] quiet [19:01] don't like this surfaces word [19:01] huh? [19:01] The line where // two surfaces meet [19:02] what are you talking about [19:02] what surfaces are bugging you [19:02] Kilos: 18/07 19:42:13 http://www.ubuntu.com/ [19:02] just related to touch, i guess [19:02] so phone + tablet perhaps? [19:03] ai! [19:03] haha [19:04] that site tells me it wants to use cookies [19:04] but i see that page so wassup [19:04] dont it like opera [19:05] Cantide: looks like Kilos doesn't know about MS Surface [19:05] how is everyone this eve? [19:05] ah, right :p [19:05] hey Squirm :) [19:05] hmm... [19:05] Squirm: good and yeah self [19:05] * Cantide is very well ty [19:05] good ty Squirm [19:05] tomorrow is my last day at FNB '-'v [19:06] Cantide: good or bad? [19:06] good :) [19:06] moving onto bigger / better things [19:06] nice :) [19:06] Cantide: sounds interesting [19:06] (in a few weeks / months ) [19:07] so i will rest a bit and troll IRC for a few weeks :) [19:07] not bigger // better [19:07] I think I'm going to be stuck at Treverton next year [19:07] bigger and better i meant [19:07] not a bad thing, but not where I want to go :P [19:07] :p [19:07] start working towards where you want to go [19:08] I have been, was hoping it'd happen this year, but alas [19:08] Cantide: hopefully you will stay in the *nix world [19:08] i sure will :) [19:08] my brother just built a beast of a machine [19:09] and installed Ubuntu on it [19:09] he had to recompile the kernel to get his mouse to work [19:09] so if he can do that, i have no excuse :) [19:09] nice [19:10] i'm really looking forward to Ubuntu with Unity 8 [19:10] and Ubuntu Touch.. [19:10] so yeah, i'm not going anywhere fast :p [19:10] I'm waiting for Ubuntu Touch [19:11] few things not 100% with the S3 [19:12] oh, did you try loading it on there? [19:12] * inetpro noticed talk about Ubuntu Edge [19:12] what is Ubuntu Edge? [19:13] Cantide: not yet [19:13] Squirm, but surely they won't really focus on supporting existing devices too much [19:13] oh, their smartphone [19:13] i meant the Nexus was used to test it out [19:13] mean * [19:13] people are working on ports [19:14] and now they're preparing it for specific hardware that it will launch on [19:14] yeah, but that's been rather quiet lately, hasn't it? [19:15] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/i9300 [19:17] * Cantide clicks [19:18] Cantide: Canonical next Smartphone dubbed Ubuntu Edge, 2013 end launch expected http://www.thegeeksclub.com/36233-canonical-smartphone-dubbed-ubuntu-edge-2013-launch-expected/ [19:18] * Cantide clicks again [19:20] oh, cool :) [19:21] Squirm, I see - not really worth trying just yet :/ [19:21] yep [19:24] night all. sleep tight [19:27] i'm out, too [19:27] good night! [19:32] eish [19:32] * inetpro wanted to give him yet another link [19:32] Surface Pro Is Not Restricted To Windows 8, Can Run Other OSes http://www.windows8update.com/2013/02/07/surface-pro-is-not-restricted-to-windows-8-can-run-other-oses/ [20:09] boredom [20:14] hmm, I signed up for a google account 29th of July 2007 === space is now known as Space