[17:59] <Mish> New update  with the icons ---  https://www.wuala.com/Mishrito/Icons/?key=CRBaTkk2DEln
[18:37] <zequence> Mish: Not bad. The colors look nice
[18:38] <zequence> I had to think for a moment what the arrow was, until I realized it was a flash
[18:38] <zequence> So, it didn't hit me like lightning
[18:39] <zequence> And thought he pen is well made, for some reason I had difficulty seeing it as such
[18:39] <Mish> you mean seeing it in the 16x16 version right?
[18:39] <Mish> or do you mean recognizing it (cause that was supposed to be a pencil :))
[18:39] <zequence> The brush for graphics is also a little bit hard to make out
[18:40] <zequence> Ah, yes. Pencil, sorry
[18:40] <Mish> I tried to choose shapes and objects that were non-invasive
[18:40] <zequence> If the brush had some hairs or something, a bit split, maybe it would be clearer?
[18:40] <Mish> and bring the main focus on the cololurs
[18:40] <Mish> but the shapes neep to be recognizable too
[18:40] <zequence> I think with the text, the icons would work fine
[18:41] <Mish> main trouble I had was with the pencil
[18:41] <Mish> I'm preparing a screenshot with them in the menus
[18:41] <zequence> But, if one wants to be pedantic, things could always be improved :)
[18:41] <Mish> also tried to keep similar colours separate
[18:42] <Mish> yes definitely, I'd like some feedback
[18:53] <Mish> screenshot -- https://www.wuala.com/Mishrito/Icons/?key=CRBaTkk2DEln
[19:11] <Mish> screenshot in a dark theme  --- https://www.wuala.com/Mishrito/Icons/?key=CRBaTkk2DEln
[19:33] <zequence> Mish: I still suspect white foreground would look better. Did you try that?
[19:34] <zequence> Otherwise, the bg colors look nice on both
[19:34] <Mish> ok I'll do lighter foregrounds as well
[23:26] <GNUdru> what's the thinking on Mir/XMir for Ubuntu Studio?
[23:32] <zequence> GNUdru: We don't have our own DE, so it's not really up to us
[23:33] <GNUdru> do you get it from Xubuntu?
[23:35] <zequence> GNUdru: Yeah, basically. The XFCE desktop we have is originally imported from Xubuntu
[23:36] <zequence> and we still follow their work somewhat
[23:36] <zequence> Currently we are working at becoming DE agnostics, which would further remove us from that 
[23:36] <GNUdru> zequence: according to http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/07/11/%23xubuntu-devel.html it looks very iffy
[23:37] <zequence> GNUdru: May I ask the reason to your inquiry?
[23:37] <GNUdru> interesting, how is DE agnostisticism accomplished?  
[23:38] <GNUdru> trying to plan ahead for what distro to focus on and recommend to other digital artists.  generally i like Xubuntu quite a bit
[23:41] <GNUdru> i've been enjoying Ubuntu Studio 12.04.1 . i took a glance at Ubuntu Studio 10.04.x some time back and was intrigued and then came back to it.  its pretty cool IMO
[23:47] <zequence> GNUdru: We are looking at how we can support more than one DE. And it may happen that we end up having no DE setup of our own, aside from artwork, and a few other things
[23:54] <GNUdru> that might be good zequence if it allowed U-S to focus on its strong points and let the upstreams do their thing.  less duplication of effort