[05:41] Good Morning [05:51] morning Mihir_ :) === gusch_ is now known as gusch [07:13] hey gusch, would you have a moment to approve a trivial MR that should fix a bunch of autopilot tests when run on the device? https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/slower-typing/+merge/175745 [07:13] oSoMoN: sure [07:14] oSoMoN: approved [07:14] gusch: thanks! [07:17] oSoMoN: I'm not able to run the tests :( (ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer) [07:18] gusch: yeah, I had the same issue, it’s because phablet-test-run -i doesn’t install openssh-server, you’ll have to install it yourself on the device [07:18] gusch: and then when it asks for the password, use "phablet" [07:21] oSoMoN: Received disconnect from 127.0.0.1: 2: Too many authentication failures for phablet [07:21] oSoMoN: I'll try to run them "manually" on the device [07:22] gusch: can you verify that sshd is running? [07:23] oSoMoN: it's running, but I can't login - but I'll find a way to run the tests [07:30] oSoMoN: ok - fixed ssh (too many private keys ?!?) - tests are finally running [07:30] gusch: cool [07:35] morning timp. When you've got a minute, could you please have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/music-app/fixes-1201094/+merge/175726 ? It looks like a trivial change to fix the content being shown behind the MainView's header, but I want to make sure it's the way to go [08:11] dpm: yes, looks trivial, but to me it seems not like the way to go [08:13] dpm: let me see the music-app to see if there's something else wrong [08:15] perfect, thanks timp! [08:16] is there a command to install all the build-dependencies? [08:16] or should I copy&paste them from debian/control? [08:18] good morning everyone [08:18] :D [08:20] dpm, maybe you know this [08:20] how often jenkins bot does reviews? [08:22] Hi all [08:22] timp, apt-get build-dep music-app [08:23] Hi nik90 :) [08:23] Hey dpm :) [08:24] timp, you'll need to install the app from the daily core apps PPA for that command to work, though [08:24] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/daily [08:24] morning PaoloRotolo :) [08:25] hey dinkometalac, I think it was every 15 mins? I can't really remember, but I think it was around that time [08:25] dpm: I branched the source. It is something I do often for apps, and I guessed there would be a (bzr or apt) command that automatically installs the build-deps for me, since that's something that I need often [08:26] doesn't seem too complicated to write a script for that, so I figured someone must have done it already [08:26] dpm, thanks [08:27] timp, I don't know of any tools. In any case, there are no build deps for music, it's still pure QML. Off the top of my head there is a runtime dependency only on the file manager plugin to scan the music library [08:28] dpm: where do I get qtdeclarative5-nemo-qml-plugin-folderlistmodel ? [08:28] timp, from the core apps PPA ^^ [08:29] you'd expect I use those already ;) === Noskcaj10 is now known as Noskcaj [08:38] timp, the idea is to subtly get you to use them ;) [08:39] popey, seen this already? My jaw literally dropped -> https://plus.google.com/104438618743851678614/posts/g3bCEv5QGvY [08:41] hah [08:41] morning mehow, nice blog post yesterday, that was something else that was jaw-dropping too! [08:41] jppiiroinen: :) [08:41] timp-qtc: \o/ [08:41] timp-qtc: so it really works! ;) [08:41] jppiiroinen: but I miss the icons on the left side in qtc [08:41] playing with the new QtC features timp? ;) [08:41] or rather timp-qtc? [08:41] jppiiroinen: if even I can use it, you must have done something right :D [08:42] timp: i will have to check in the next version if i could group them etcc [08:42] timp: you can have the icons on higher resolution ;) [08:42] yes I just installed a new qtc, and it comes with an irc tab that automatically brings me here :) [08:42] ^dpm [08:43] yeah, that's what I meant, I tried it this morning too :) [08:43] jppiiroinen: dunno, if I click on "Help" there is so much stuff there that I probably won't use it... so we probably should keep it a bit basic with the ubuntu help :) [08:43] dpm: he's good isn't he? ☻ [08:44] hmm.. timp-qtc ..that sounds like "timp cute to see" [08:44] popey, he's amazing [08:45] popey, I'm looking forward to jono seeing this, he'll run out of adjectives [08:46] dpm, I saw it on the phone. my thought was: looks totally sweet, a pity I have no idea what it's useful for :-] [08:46] jppiiroinen: the api docs are online? we could use local docs for that [08:47] haha [08:47] timp: ah true, lets change that [08:47] timp: raise a bug to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins [08:49] timp, playing with the actions, it seems there're some bugs in listing actions in the HUD and hiding per-page actions [08:49] jppiiroinen: ok, done https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins/+bug/1202977 [08:49] Ubuntu bug 1202977 in Ubuntu QtCreator Plugins "Install API docs locally instead of using online docs" [Undecided,New] [08:49] I don't always see all actions without searching [08:49] and the don't hide as I would expect [08:49] kalikiana: I think that's a bug in HUD not updating properly [08:50] hmm no Wellark here? [08:50] timp, any idea if there's a way to double-check, say enforce an update to see that it's not a uitk bug? [08:51] kalikiana: not that I know of. Let's ask Wellark [08:51] Good morning all, happy Friday, and happy Soyuz 14 Landing Day! :-D [08:51] timp, k [08:56] dpm: does music-app automatically play all mp3s from my ~/Music? (it is emtpy for me, so the app doesn't doe anything) [09:00] timp, yeah, it reads everything that's in there. Try putting a few mp3's or ogg's there [09:01] * timp downloading some.. [09:01] I don't need local music anymore because of spotify [09:02] 10:44 < jppiiroinen> hmm.. timp-qtc ..that sounds like "timp cute to see" [09:02] jppiiroinen: ^ so I should make that my default irc name ;) === popey changed the topic of #ubuntu-app-devel to: http://developer.ubuntu.com | App development on Ubuntu: how to do it & how to make it better | HackDays! http://bit.ly/12Ux0vM | Fri 20th July is File Manager App HackDay! http://bit.ly/18ofcdL | File Manager App Bugs: http://bit.ly/12AJ6a9 | File Manager App Blueprint: http://bit.ly/17pzjHn [09:03] timp: i used spotify on my ubuntu touch phone from the command line ☻ [09:03] popey: which calendar app are you using? you always seem to get the dates wrong [09:03] wtf! [09:03] popey: oh that's awesome :) I should try that === popey changed the topic of #ubuntu-app-devel to: http://developer.ubuntu.com | App development on Ubuntu: how to do it & how to make it better | HackDays! http://bit.ly/12Ux0vM | Fri 19th July is File Manager App HackDay! http://bit.ly/18ofcdL | File Manager App Bugs: http://bit.ly/12AJ6a9 | File Manager App Blueprint: http://bit.ly/17pzjHn [09:04] I notice now that the calendar when I click the time in ubuntu, is Sun-Sat.. I prefer Mon-Sun for an ordering.. [09:05] i think i look at the hackday page and read what the date is into a buffer in my head, then some process decides that "Well, you need to add one, because it's tomorrow now" and I manually increment it. [09:05] why does the calendar start at Sunday? [09:06] Sunday is part of the weekEND so that is not logical for me [09:06] timp, very soon you might be able to stream music from U1 too :) [09:06] dpm: the same way as with spotify? or do I have to buy the tracks individually first? [09:06] timp, this is probably a setting that needs to be set in system-settings and then the calendar/weather guys can read it from there [09:07] timp, essentially you can stream any music you put in your Ubuntu one folders [09:08] not sure about streaming music from friends' shares. It's not spotify-like in any case [09:08] but I prefer listening to my own music anyway :) [09:08] music app crashes for me immediately after loading my mp3s :s [09:09] timp, you'd be surprised, people have totally different ideas about the start of a week in different countries [09:09] kalikiana: they are wrong! [09:09] ;) [09:09] kalikiana: I can imagine that, but I would like the option to be configurable then [09:10] http://xkcd.com/386/ [09:10] I don't think I have been to a country where they don't call sat+sun the weekend [09:10] dpm: haha :) [09:10] timp, I would assume it will be in time settings, it exists as a placeholder [09:10] timp, you should go to Egypt, then :) [09:10] dpm: for some reason, I know this url by heart http://xkcd.org/303/ [09:10] but we use qml now, dammit ;) [09:11] timp, hahaha, I actually looked at that one again a couple of days ago [09:11] dpm: I think now is not the best time to do that :) [09:11] indeed [09:11] dpm: there are t-shirts of that one :) [09:11] http://store.xkcd.com/products/compiling :) [09:13] timp, I need that shirt!!! [09:14] kalikiana: this may be your lucky day then, it is for sale! :) [09:14] :) [09:15] hmm $15 shipping [09:16] dpm: who is working on music-app? [09:16] dpm: when I run it from qtc it quits immediately after starting http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5890180/ [09:17] dpm: don't judge me for the music, I downloaded a random album [09:17] one that I also have legally on a cd of course ;) [09:17] timp, yeah, yeah, same excuse... "I'm compiling", right? ;) [09:18] maybe I like the music, but I cannot judge since I didn't hear it yet :) [09:18] ah I do like "blurred lines". At least the original video clip [09:19] :) [09:19] timp, I think you've run into bug 1200513 - same happened to me this morning: try if 'bzr revert -r -2', I got that version to work [09:19] Launchpad bug 1200513 in Ubuntu Music App "Music app segfaults upon start" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1200513 [09:19] timp, "have it on cd" is becoming a faint excuse since there's no reason to buy any new cd's… [09:19] have it in u1music is more realistic [09:19] kalikiana: what's the excuse nowadays? "I also bought it on iTunes on my mac"? [09:20] timp, maybe I should start saying "I have it on floppy" to counter the easily outdated storage reference :-D [09:29] timp, did you have any luck with the previous revision of the music app? [09:29] dpm: yes, r61 seems to work [09:29] dpm: except that it doesn't make any sound [09:30] dpm: perhaps something is missing from the dependencies? defaultServiceProvider::requestService(): no service found for - "org.qt-project.qt.mediaplayer" [09:30] timp, you'll need to install the gstreamer plugin on the desktop [09:30] dpm: why is it not in the dependencies in debian/control? [09:30] yeah, we didn't want to install it on the phone and weren't sure how to handle the dependencies [09:31] dpm, what didn't you want to install on the phone? [09:31] ha, I was just about to ping you :) [09:31] * dpm can summon seb128 with the power of thought [09:32] dpm: ok now I have sound :) [09:32] dpm: libqt5multimedia5-plugins helped [09:32] seb128, could you give us some advice on this? We're not really packaging experts. On the desktop the music app needs the fluendo plugin to play mp3's, but it's not required on the phone. What's the best way to handle dependencies in debian/control in these cases? [09:33] timp, ah, that's news to me, I probably had it installed already and just needed the gstreamer plugin [09:34] I am guessing I had gstreamer already, but libqt5multimedia5 was missing [09:34] dpm, the issue there is not the plugin, I hit the same issue yesterday [09:34] you should probably depends on qtdeclarative5-qtmultimedia-plugin [09:34] which should depends on the libplugin [09:35] dpm, otherwise, the way we have been dealing with codecs in the past is to install them on demand from the app when needed [09:35] dpm, e.g rb's music store was prompting you to install the fluendo codec on first use if you tried to play a mp3 [09:36] dpm: I can make r61 crash also https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1200513 [09:36] Ubuntu bug 1200513 in Ubuntu Music App "Music app segfaults upon start" [Critical,Triaged] [09:36] yeah, although it's going to be trickier to install things from within a qml app [09:38] seb128, it seems the music app already depends on qtdeclarative5-qtmultimedia-plugin - shall we just add a dependency on libqt5multimedia5-plugins then? [09:40] dpm, I'm not familiar enough with that stack to say, to me it looks like you are just using qtdeclarative5-qtmultimedia-plugin ... which should bring on the required plugins [09:41] dpm, I hit the same issue with system settings yesterday when adding the sound preview feature [09:41] dpm, imho it's qtdeclarative5-qtmultimedia-plugin that should get the depends [09:41] dpm, but check with somebody who knows qtmultimedia better [09:42] seb128, so you think I should file a bug to request qtdeclarative5-qtmultimedia-plugin to depend on libqt5multimedia5-plugins ? [09:42] yes [09:42] seems like to me that qtdeclarative5-qtmultimedia-plugin doesn't work out of the box currently [09:42] it doesn't make sense to start adding that depends in every qml apps using qtmultimedia [09:45] dpm: I think adding those clip: true lines in music-app should not be needed. The Page should clip it automatically [09:45] dpm: but I'll discuss it with Kaleo, he is handling https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+bug/1201094 [09:45] Ubuntu bug 1201094 in Ubuntu Weather App "App content visible behind tab header" [High,In progress] [09:49] thanks timp [09:50] seb128, ok, filed bug 1202996 and assigned it to Timo, hoping this is the right place [09:50] Launchpad bug 1202996 in qtmultimedia-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "qtdeclarative5-qtmultimedia-plugin needs to depend on libqt5multimedia5-plugins" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1202996 [09:51] dpm, thanks [09:53] dpm: timi is on holidays for at least another week [09:53] *timo [09:54] I know, it's not a big deal of a bug [09:54] ok [09:58] we can also workaround it easily by adding a temporary depends to the music app if we wnt [09:59] yeah [10:00] oSoMoN: can you check https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/qtubuntu-camera/camera-always-new-texture-on-connect/+merge/175774 [10:03] gusch: sure, in a moment [10:04] oSoMoN: thx [10:12] gusch: approved [10:14] oSoMoN: cool thx [10:29] popey, for the rss reader, do you see any issue in using http://ctrlq.org/rss/ to search for rss feeds? [10:30] no [10:30] we talked about it in the meeting last night [10:31] so we've already got a decision on that, cool === om26er is now known as om26er|away === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:11] mehow, can you reassign yourself to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+bug/1198868 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+bug/1198823 ? an app developer assigned himself to the UX task by mistake, and I don't have permissions to re-assign you to it [11:11] Ubuntu bug 1198868 in Ubuntu UX "[Calculator app] Need more space for calculation labels" [Medium,Triaged] [11:11] Ubuntu bug 1198823 in Ubuntu UX "[Calculator app] Not obvious how to add a label to a calculation" [Low,Fix committed] === om26er|away is now known as om26er [11:18] dmp: I will do it as soon as Jon is back cause for some reason I cannot assign anyone else apart from myself :L [11:21] mehow, oh you wanted to assign it to someone else? In that case you've got the same permissions problem as I've got. You might want to ask John Lea or Nick Tait to add you to the team, as they seem to be the admins: [11:21] https://launchpad.net/~unity-design-team/+members#active [11:23] ok I think Nick is adding me to the list right now so I should be able to re assign it soon [11:42] timp, would you mind adding a comment to the MP you reviewed this morning? You mentioned that the fix was not the best approach and that it might need Kaleo to look over it. The reason I'm asking is because one of the music guys have already approved the MP (but not top-approved yet) and it might be worth telling them to hold on until there is a better fix: https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/music-app/fixes-1201094/+merge/175726 [11:46] dpm: ok, commented. [11:47] danielholm, o/ [11:47] ahayzen-mobile: hey man [11:47] ahayzen-mobile: how are you? [11:47] perfect, thanks timp, that's exactly what we needed [11:47] danielholm, Is there a meeting tonight? [11:48] ahayzen-mobile: I think soo [11:48] ahayzen-mobile: I'll try the be there [11:48] hey ahayzen-mobile, danielholm, how are you guys? [11:48] danielholm, gd thx just having lunch :-) [11:48] meeting at what time ? [11:48] ahayzen-mobile, I'll send you invites to the Music meetings [11:48] dpm: I'm rather well, thank you. and you? [11:48] good good :) [11:48] I've been loving the activity on the music app [11:49] and being able to use it! [11:49] it looks awesome, btw [11:49] danielholm, how r u? Is it at 1900 utc? [11:49] nice to hear! I feel the same way. It's been very much going on. [11:49] 19.30 UTC I think [11:50] dpm ,can you update me with calc app meetings ? [11:50] I'd like to test filemanager-app but I don't understand what "org.nemomobile.folderlistmodel 1.0" is... [11:50] Mihir, sure, do you want me to send you an invite? [11:50] danielholm, So 2030 BST :-) I'll see if I can be there [11:50] danielholm, ahayzen-mobile, I've been recently badly bitten by bug 1200513 , can you guys reproduce it as well? [11:50] Launchpad bug 1200513 in Ubuntu Music App "Music app segfaults upon start" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1200513 [11:50] yeah , that would be great.. [11:51] and what would be the procedure to be a part of core team member for an app ? [11:51] dpm, I have never got that :-/ [11:51] ahayzen-mobile: I was wrong, it was 19:00 UTC [11:51] danielholm, np [11:52] ahayzen-mobile, hm weird, both timp and I were experiencing the same problem, and balloons as well [11:53] dpm, maybe down to the actual files u have? [11:54] ahayzen-mobile, it could be, but reverting to one bzr revision earlier fixes the problem [11:54] so I'm not really sure [11:54] Strange [12:01] danielholm, any idea y after clearing the artist model appending does not appear to work? [12:02] danielholm, the todo item in the code. [12:02] ahayzen-mobile: unfortunately not... [12:03] danielholm, even just removing one row fails:-/ cause the artist page would then be functional === ara is now known as Guest69887 [12:04] danielholm, I'll have another go tonight [12:05] ahayzen-mobile: I'm not enteirly certain what it is we're talking about. is it a new bug or something you are working on? [12:07] danielholm, it is a todo in the current code...filterartist or something.. [12:08] aha okej [12:08] ahayzen-mobile: so the filtering doesnt work like it should? [12:09] danielholm, LibraryListModel.qml [12:10] danielholm, filterartisttracks read the todo that explains the issue [12:11] ahayzen-mobile: in the blueprints? [12:11] danielholm, in the code [12:12] danielholm, sorry it is a code comment not a work item, should have been clearer [12:12] ahayzen-mobile: thats alright [12:12] :) [12:13] danielholm, any ideas? I'll investigate later if u can't think of anything [12:14] ahayzen-mobile: I'm sorry but I have no ideas how that file works :P [12:14] ahayzen-mobile: well, not more then you do anyway [12:14] danielholm, np [12:15] danielholm, anyway gtg have a good day and speak later [12:16] dpm.. how are we gonna resolve the UI bugs , as you mentioned it needs to be modify Blue prints [12:16] ahayzen-mobile: alright. take care, talk to you later [12:19] ckpringle: When you have time, can you take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1202626 and let us about the design decision regarding them [12:19] Ubuntu bug 1202626 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "[pageStack] show the wrong toolBar when going back from a Tab" [Undecided,Confirmed] [12:19] It is essentially about having pagestack inside a tab === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:49] Kaleo: what's your opinion on this? https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/music-app/fixes-1201094/+merge/175726 [12:49] Kaleo: should the clipping be done in the apps or in uitk? [13:21] hmm [13:36] nik90: hey [13:37] nik90: ok so I'm a little confused following that thread however let me explain what I understand - there is a bug generated by navigating a page stack from a tabbed view, that the toolbar does not switch back to the correct one when you go to another tab and back (ish) [13:38] nik90: of course there should be the ability to have page stack from a tabbed view [13:38] the header must change upon going into the page stack, therefore the tabs are not available [13:38] the toolbar should always be the correct toolbar for the view (obviously) ? [13:39] hi rickyc [13:39] hi [13:39] you've written an app of some kind? [13:39] small weather app [13:40] and you want to test it out on a device? [13:40] yes I have no idea how to get it on a device :x [13:40] ok, do you have a device running ubuntu phone? [13:40] I have an android phone [13:41] no not currently sir [13:41] I have a nexus 4 [13:41] so really there's a few options. [13:41] if you want you can flash a device yourself with ubuntu touch.. [13:42] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install details how you do that [13:42] we have an SDK (based on qtcreator) which should make it easy to deploy your app on to the device [13:42] alternatively if you wanted to make the code available somewhere we could try packaging it up and we could try it out on a device [13:42] we don't have an "app store" yet [13:42] yes I have used the SDK [13:42] so it's all a bit manual [13:42] oh great [13:43] I think I can try it out, I will follow that link above [13:43] very excited to see it live :D [13:43] great [13:43] give us a shout if you get stuck [13:43] will do [13:43] thanks for your help [13:43] np [13:46] opoey qt supports webapp integration right? [13:46] popey [13:48] Not tried it myself.. [13:49] * popey looks around for someone who will know for sure [13:49] kalikiana: do you know ^^ ? [13:49] I am really good with html5 [13:49] but qt ehh [13:49] ☻ [13:50] ckpringle: I just saw your messages [13:51] nik90|office: no probs [13:51] In essence what you descrbed s correct [13:51] Is it okay from design point to have a pagestack inside a tab? [13:52] also my internet is terrible, so do not be suprised to see me dc and rejoin [13:52] :) [13:53] ckpringle: so the clock tab will have 2 pages inside it. One for the world clock list and another page to show the clock. Since there are 2 pages in the tab, I will be using a pagestack to switch between them [13:53] hmm [13:54] How would I go about avoiding a binding loop with a bidirectional property map? In this case a GSettings boolean key on to a Switch [13:55] Laney, you mean having a switch show a property's value but change the property when clicked? [13:55] and also react to the key being changed externally [13:58] Laney, here's what I use for the switch or checkbox: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5890855/. I'll see about watching the property for changes [13:59] yes that give you a loop if something else changes it [14:00] Laney: where's the loop? [14:00] Laney, what do you mean? I can't think of how that would loop [14:00] if checked == false, and you set it to false again, onCheckedChanged is not triggered [14:00] it is only triggered when the new value actually differs from the old [14:01] that happens if someone else sets the gsettings key to true [14:01] then checked becomes true, and then propertyToWatch = true is executed. And it stops there since nothing changes [14:02] Laney, if someone else sets the key, then it should fire onCheckedChanged and reset the checked property to true, and then stop [14:02] Laney, but then it isn't bound to the key, so you'll need a connection to watch the key: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5890860/ (I think that is right, I haven't tried it) [14:03] file:///usr/share/settings/system/qml-plugins/flight-mode/EntryComponent.qml:31:14: QML CheckBox: Binding loop detected for property "checked" [14:03] Laney, what LP branch is that from? ubuntu-system-settings? [14:03] no branch [14:04] Laney, could you pastebin the file? [14:04] sec [14:04] you'll need to install lp:gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas [14:07] Laney, I'm probably not going to try running the actual file, I just want to look at it so I can make a test file on my own. [14:09] hmm [14:09] I added an onChanged handler and it made the loop go away [14:09] Laney, great [14:09] not really [14:10] it only works because that unsets the checked: ... that I had before [14:10] why doesn't the normal property binding work? [14:11] Laney, you mean that it is no longer bound to the property? That might be a place you could use a Connections instance. [14:11] CheckBox has: onClicked: checked = !checked [14:11] so when you click, I guess the binding is broken [14:12] it seems tricky [14:12] Laney, can't you use something like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5890860/ [14:12] iBelieve: yes, that's essentially what it does [14:12] but it's still dirty isn't it? [14:13] timp: Switch too? [14:13] yeah, it seems more complicated then it should be [14:13] that's what I'm using [14:13] Laney: Switch is a checkbox with only different visuals [14:13] ah ok [14:13] onClicked: checked = !checked [14:13] epaste [14:13] CheckBox { id: switchItem style: Theme.createStyleComponent("SwitchStyle.qml", switchItem) [14:13] so if I do onClicked: property = !property would that work? [14:13] ^ that's the implementation of Switch :) [14:13] heh [14:14] when you define a new onClicked, the old one is still executed [14:14] oh [14:14] for your case I think it would be handy to remove the CheckBox code executed in onClicked... [14:15] Kaleo, with the current SDK, do you know if it's possible to do the drag and drop as described in the "Moving feeds into a different topic" section in http://design.canonical.com/2013/06/shorts-add-edit-share-adjust/ [14:15] you can introduce your own new boolean that is binded to the external property [14:15] and you never update the new property, just update checkbox when the new property changes, and update the external property when checked changes [14:16] it would work, but it seems that there should be an easier way [14:18] timp: that still loops when I toggle it in dconf-editor :( [14:19] Laney, I think this works the way you want: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5890924/. [14:20] Laney, the switch takes care of changing the checked state and at the same time the custom onClicked: handler changes the property [14:20] iBelieve: it's within a Standard, so I'd have to do that in two places [14:20] Laney, why two places? [14:20] because you can click on the list item too [14:22] lp:~laney/ubuntu-system-settings/gsettingsify === mpt_ is now known as mpt [14:23] Laney, you could use onChecked, but the problem is that it won't change when the gsettings key changes [14:24] you can say onCheckedChanged: propertyToWatch = checked, and have a Connection that does onPropertyToWatchChanged: checked = propertyToWatch [14:24] yep [14:25] I have that (without the Connection though) [14:25] the Connection is there to connect to some external property, outside of your Component. Otherwise you cannot watch it [14:26] GSettings is a child of the Switch already [14:26] so I can just directly access its checked property [14:29] * timp gotta go. [14:29] enjoy your weekend :) [14:29] thanks for your help [14:29] you too! [14:37] ahoy! [14:39] boiko, do you know where is tiago ? nuclearbob wanted some help on getting a bit knowledge about ofono/telepathy [14:40] boiko, or you might be able to help [14:40] om26er: ^ [14:40] om26er: there you go :) [14:40] om26er: salem_ probably has it more fresh in his memory [14:41] salem_, Hey! nuclearbob wanted some help regarding ofono [14:41] nuclearbob, om26er hello [14:42] salem_ hello. I'd like to learn about the ofono API so I can automate sending sms and calls for automated connected device testing in the lab [14:43] nuclearbob, ok. are you using python? [14:47] salem_: yes [14:47] nuclearbob, ok, you may find here many scripts to control and monitor ofono: http://git.kernel.org/cgit/network/ofono/ofono.git/tree/test [14:48] salem_: that looks fantastic, thanks [14:48] nuclearbob, no problem. good luck! [14:52] hi mhall119, have you seen Lucas's Stock Ticker designs :) [14:55] dpm: I was looking at them last night, they're beautiful [14:58] yeah :) [14:59] salem and om26er: that's perfect, I've got sms sending working now, so I can build the automation for that. Thanks! [15:11] dpm: about this MR, I asked to mihir to do font bigger, because in design is bigger [15:11] https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni-123/ubuntu-calculator-app/EditIconMainLabel/+merge/175662 [15:12] WebbyIT, ah, ok, where in the design is that bigger? [15:12] dpm, http://design.canonical.com/wp-content/uploads/keyscreens_calculator1.jpg [15:12] dpm , this one GDHWL-MSONI [15:12] http://design.canonical.com/wp-content/uploads/keyscreens_calculator1.jpg [15:13] WebbyIT, Mihir, these are wireframes, not the final visual designs [15:13] dpm, ah, ok. So, it's my error, sorry Mihir [15:13] Ohhhh :| no problem [15:13] shall i revert back those changes ? [15:14] no worries guys, let me get some more clarity from the design team [15:14]