| BobJonkman | azend: The usual thing when folks with a common interest get together. Argue politics, religion and sport, and maybe the topic of common interest too. Drink coffee if there's coffee, eat egg rolls if there's egg rolls. | 01:02 |
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| azend | I can argue :D | 02:42 |
| BobJonkman | azend: So, gotta date and/or venue in mind? I'm hoping you'll say 8:00pm on Thursday, 25 July to coincide with the IRC meeting... | 03:03 |
| azend | Thursdays are curry night at the Pennywhistle :) | 03:05 |
| azend | BobJonkman: maybe then I can finally make the wiki page :P | 03:13 |
| BobJonkman | azend: Is curry night at the Pennywhistle an obstacle to holding Ubuntu Hour, or an excuse to hold one? | 03:14 |
| azend | bit of both | 03:14 |
| BobJonkman | :p that doesn't help! | 03:15 |
| azend | curry night means that it will be busier but there will be unlimited curry! :) | 03:15 |
| azend | I think it will be fun | 03:15 |
| BobJonkman | ...and don't let the lack of an Ubuntu Hour prevent you from creating a Wiki page | 03:16 |
| azend | meeting is at 7? | 03:16 |
| BobJonkman | OK! | 03:16 |
| BobJonkman | or was that a question? | 03:16 |
| azend | question :P | 03:16 |
| azend | when is the meeting? | 03:16 |
| * BobJonkman checks the wiki | 03:16 | |
| azend | that's on the wiki? | 03:17 |
| BobJonkman | 7:00pm EDT | 03:17 |
| azend | man I've really got to check that out | 03:17 |
| azend | alright | 03:17 |
| azend | 7-9 at the pennywhistle pub | 03:17 |
| BobJonkman | The meeting announcement and agenda are on the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings/Next | 03:17 |
| BobJonkman | Yay! Will you add this to the Ubuntu-ca LoCo page? | 03:18 |
| BobJonkman | http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-ca | 03:19 |
| azend | sure | 03:19 |
| BobJonkman | multi-Yay! | 03:19 |
| azend | assuming I don't break the launchpad sso this time :P | 03:19 |
| BobJonkman | Uh oh. What did you do? | 03:19 |
| azend | I have no idea | 03:20 |
| azend | last time it took me like 5 tries to log in | 03:21 |
| azend | each time I would log in successfully and then it would think I'm not logged in | 03:21 |
| BobJonkman | The login goes through multiple pages of redirects. Sometimes it's slow | 03:21 |
| BobJonkman | Need to have cookies turned on, I think. | 03:21 |
| BobJonkman | And maybe Javascript. | 03:21 |
| BobJonkman | The SSO has to preserve state from one page to another, across multiple sites | 03:22 |
| azend | yeah I expect that | 03:24 |
| azend | it just didn't like me | 03:24 |
| * azend pretends to be a web dev | 03:25 | |
| azend | you guys have met at Cafe Pyrus eh? | 03:27 |
| azend | is it any good? | 03:27 |
| BobJonkman | I like Pyrus - good food (all vegetarian), but too exotic for some Ubuntu Hour attendees | 03:32 |
| BobJonkman | Also, the one Ubuntu Hour we've had there it was pretty loud. | 03:32 |
| BobJonkman | And the signage outside was invisible, so one person wandered around for a long time, and finally called me. Turns out it was right across the street. | 03:33 |
| BobJonkman | But I'll go back there. Maybe not for Ubuntu Hour, but definitely for lunch or a snack or just to sit in a cool place with good (if loud) music | 03:34 |
| BobJonkman | Also, they have electrical outlets under the tables against the wall. Good for laptops and electric razors | 03:34 |
| azend | BobJonkman: last time I went to Pyrus they were out of pretty much everything on the menu and totally screwed up my change | 03:45 |
| azend | Just wondering how other people felt about it | 03:45 |
| BobJonkman | I think Pyrus has a strong following among a small(ish) population | 03:48 |
| BobJonkman | So those who like it, like it very much. | 03:49 |
| azend | BobJonkman: event posted and email sent | 03:53 |
| BobJonkman | Saw the e-mail. Great! | 03:53 |
| azend | now all we need is ze pictures! | 03:54 |
| BobJonkman | I can take some fuzzy camera shots. @laurelrusswurm will probably bring her camera | 04:03 |
| BobJonkman | s/camera shots/phonecam shots/ | 04:04 |
| azend | I wonder if we can bang out an ubuntu phone app in that time | 04:09 |
| azend | I don't know anything about ubuntu phone dev though | 04:09 |
| BobJonkman | I suspect any codefest would take more time, at least four or five hours | 04:17 |
| BobJonkman | And even then my experience is that you only end up with a proof-of-concept, not a usable product. | 04:17 |
| azend | we could make a smiley face app | 04:18 |
| azend | whenever you click the screen, a smiley face appears :) | 04:18 |
| BobJonkman | And if you're not familiar with the dev tools or environment you may not have more than a dummy mockup | 04:18 |
| azend | that is true | 04:18 |
| BobJonkman | Yup, like a smiley face. That took an experienced professional developer like dscassel a few hours to do, when learning the Android development environment. | 04:19 |
| azend | yeah but android is a pain in the ass | 04:19 |
| azend | I've done android dev and it isn't very intuitve | 04:20 |
| azend | The dev tools alone take an hour or more to download on a fast connection | 04:20 |
| BobJonkman | I really need to get back into coding | 04:20 |
| BobJonkman | I frittered away a chance to learn OS development from singpolyma | 04:21 |
| BobJonkman | He's running a course at Kwartzlab every thursday in July and August. | 04:21 |
| azend | I heard | 04:21 |
| azend | sounds intense and awesome | 04:21 |
| BobJonkman | I wouldn't mind seeing an Android development env | 04:23 |
| BobJonkman | Something you could show off? | 04:23 |
| azend | maybe another time | 04:23 |
| BobJonkman | :) | 04:23 |
| BobJonkman | OK... | 04:23 |
| azend | I hear they're changing around the tooling a bit | 04:24 |
| azend | moving stuff over to IntelliJ | 04:24 |
| BobJonkman | ??? Never heard of that | 04:24 |
| azend | it looks pretty cool but it does a lot of stuff for you | 04:24 |
| azend | I'm not sure how OK I am with that | 04:24 |
| azend | convenient yes butm when you have to track down a bug, you don't know where to look | 04:25 |
| BobJonkman | That's the kind of "helpful" that leads to code bloat | 04:25 |
| azend | yup | 04:26 |
| azend | and if everyone does the exact same thing, why force them to write it every time | 04:28 |
| azend | just integrate a great version into the sdk in the first place | 04:28 |
| azend | or find a reason not to need it | 04:28 |
| BobJonkman | When everyone does the exact same thing, that's what code libraries are for | 04:29 |
| BobJonkman | OK, I'm calling it a night. | 04:32 |
| BobJonkman | "It's a night" | 04:32 |
| BobJonkman | :) | 04:32 |
| azend | This isn't a night! | 04:35 |
| azend | 3AM is a night ;) | 04:35 |
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