| ali1234 | is u1db the old thing that got scrapped or the new thing that replaces it? | 00:49 |
|---|---|---|
| MattJ | Why am I awake? | 01:15 |
| penguin42 | temperature | 01:17 |
| MooDoo | morning all | 06:43 |
| diplo | Morning all | 07:03 |
| dwatkins | aloha | 07:04 |
| MooDoo | dwatkins: oi you know that's czajkowski's saying :) lol | 07:08 |
| dwatkins | it is? | 07:10 |
| dwatkins | I just tend to pick a random greeting each day. | 07:10 |
| MartijnVdS | g'morning! | 07:10 |
| dwatkins | goedendag | 07:10 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goedendag ? | 07:13 |
| MooDoo | so how is everyone at the moment? glad it's friday? | 07:20 |
| dwatkins | very glad indeed, it's been a crazy week here in Edinburgh | 07:20 |
| MooDoo | is canonical still doing ubuntu certification with the lpi? | 07:20 |
| dwatkins | MartijnVdS: haha, I meant "good day" in Dutch, of course ;) | 07:21 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: that's what it usually means ;) | 07:21 |
| MartijnVdS | MooDoo: VERY glad it's friday | 07:21 |
| dwatkins | "Good morning, or a scary looking mace thing, depending on the context" | 07:21 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: You only have to worry if you have a French accent, according to apocryphal sources ;) | 07:22 |
| dwatkins | I always thought "apocryphal" meant "contested". | 07:23 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: "of dubious authenticity" | 07:23 |
| dwatkins | ah ok, not far off | 07:23 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: (there's only one source for the "French-stabbing" origins of the Goedendag name) | 07:23 |
| dwatkins | That's ok then, it probably didn't maim too many people... | 07:26 |
| * TheOpenSourcerer starts writing a draft review of some beer... | 07:34 | |
| MartijnVdS | TheOpenSourcerer: yay! :) | 07:34 |
| MartijnVdS | TheOpenSourcerer: positive or negative? | 07:35 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Only tried the Broeders so far - but that was lovely ;-) | 07:35 |
| dwatkins | "draft" ... badum tschhhh..... | 07:36 |
| MooDoo | doooooo | 07:36 |
| MooDoo | dwatkins: careful, you'll get TheOpenSourcerer HOP-ing mad on that one. | 07:37 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | lol - it'll not get published for a while... Need to try the Dark Roast yet and get AlanBell's input too. | 07:37 |
| dwatkins | I think there's a grain of truth to that, MooDoo... | 07:37 |
| * AlanBell input one of the light beers | 07:37 | |
| MooDoo | dwatkins: thanfully the jokes are mild | 07:37 |
| AlanBell | was rather yummy | 07:37 |
| MartijnVdS | MooDoo: Friday-level jokes | 07:38 |
| dwatkins | Just so long as the review isn't gassy. | 07:38 |
| MooDoo | just keep it all low gravity | 07:38 |
| AlanBell | someone got an iPhone handy? | 07:38 |
| AlanBell | want to test something | 07:38 |
| dwatkins | yeah AlanBell - 4S | 07:38 |
| === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk | ||
| brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 08:14 |
| dwatkins | wotcher brobostigon | 08:20 |
| MartijnVdS | \o | 08:20 |
| brobostigon | morning dwatkins | 08:20 |
| brobostigon | morning MartijnVdS | 08:20 |
| === alan_g|EOD is now known as alan_g | ||
| popey | Morning all | 08:44 |
| SuperMatt | morning | 08:45 |
| x98 | hi there i was told here to upgrage to 12.04.1 lts to fix my cpu fan error but it hasn't worked | 08:50 |
| x98 | my laptop now has overheated | 08:50 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all, happy Friday, and happy Soyuz 14 Landing Day! :-D | 08:51 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Shame: http://www.h-online.com/features/The-Final-H-Roundup-1919816.html | 08:52 |
| JamesTait | The H is going away? | 08:54 |
| JamesTait | Didn't fabsh work for them? | 08:54 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/The-H-is-closing-down-1920027.html | 08:54 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | yep | 08:54 |
| JamesTait | fabsh killed The H? :-P | 08:55 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | MartijnVdS: http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2013/07/bier-vandestreek/ | 09:01 |
| === scott__ is now known as smitherz82 | ||
| MartijnVdS | TheOpenSourcerer: Wow, thanks :) | 09:08 |
| MartijnVdS | TheOpenSourcerer: Sent it to my brothers | 09:08 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | They've already picked it up on twitter | 09:08 |
| diplo | Will point my dad at it as well ,he likes strong beers and trying new stuff | 09:10 |
| diplo | Guys, web dev stuff I know is OT but :) | 09:10 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Their shop doesn't work for me - so I don;t think you can actually buy it yet... | 09:11 |
| MartijnVdS | you can send them an email to order if you really want it | 09:11 |
| MartijnVdS | or use the Dutch-language shop | 09:11 |
| diplo | I'm trying to clean up some CSS which has acrued over the years, basically want a way of checking through a CSS file and see if all elements are used in the code | 09:11 |
| diplo | kk, I may order it as a treat. Cheers | 09:12 |
| SuperMatt | awww man, sads to see the H going :( | 09:14 |
| SuperMatt | in chromium, is there a sync alternative that doesn't use google? | 09:22 |
| MooDoo | just rebuilt my vps to ubuntu lts, yay vps o/ lol | 09:38 |
| SuperMatt | my vps is 13.04 | 09:41 |
| brobostigon | debian testing here. | 09:42 |
| MooDoo | don't need to upgrade to the latest version, LTS is fine :D | 09:42 |
| MooDoo | same on my laptop LTS is fine for the moment :d | 09:43 |
| SuperMatt | my vps is 13.04, but my laptop, desktop and *work* pcs are 13.10 | 09:44 |
| SuperMatt | I like to be on the edge | 09:44 |
| MooDoo | heh | 09:44 |
| MooDoo | well seeing as my vps just runs a minecraft server and irssi, i don't need anything else :d | 09:45 |
| SuperMatt | oh, mine runs my website, email, etc | 09:45 |
| MooDoo | SuperMatt: yeah I could do that, but I just use works systems and google for mail :D | 09:46 |
| SuperMatt | but I like to run the latest stable releases of stuff | 09:46 |
| SuperMatt | I'm slowly phasing google out of my life | 09:46 |
| MooDoo | SuperMatt: how come? | 09:46 |
| brobostigon | tt-rss :) | 09:46 |
| SuperMatt | just... because | 09:46 |
| SuperMatt | yup, I run tt-rss | 09:46 |
| MooDoo | crappy excuse but i'll not pry ;) | 09:47 |
| SuperMatt | there's no real reason for it, but I mostly got fed up with relying on others for my stuff | 09:47 |
| brobostigon | i run owncloud also, so stores contacts, calendar etc. | 09:47 |
| popey | SuperMatt: wise | 09:47 |
| MooDoo | SuperMatt: I know how you feel on that one :d | 09:47 |
| SuperMatt | of course, I do have to rely heavily on a single company to provide my vps | 09:47 |
| SuperMatt | but that's unavoidable | 09:49 |
| MooDoo | SuperMatt: get a server at home :D | 09:49 |
| SuperMatt | heh | 09:49 |
| SuperMatt | naw | 09:49 |
| SuperMatt | I'm happy with the company I'm with because my friend works for them | 09:50 |
| MooDoo | SuperMatt: ah! :) | 09:50 |
| popey | hah, i used to run popey.com from a compaq proliant at home | 09:50 |
| diplo | never had issues with ports popey ? | 09:52 |
| popey | nope | 09:52 |
| popey | but that was years ago | 09:52 |
| SuperMatt | I'm paying £30 a month for 40gigs of disk and 1gig of ram | 09:54 |
| SuperMatt | and it's pretty swift | 09:54 |
| MooDoo | just got 2gb 50gb 1 core, that'll do for me. | 09:54 |
| SuperMatt | well, you need all that ram for minecraft ;) | 09:55 |
| MooDoo | lol | 09:55 |
| JamesTait | http://www.bigv.io/prices ftw. | 09:56 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | SuperMatt: About £40 >> http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_rootserver/ex4 | 09:56 |
| MooDoo | you use them TheOpenSourcerer ? | 09:56 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | We use Hetzner yes. | 09:57 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Have 4 servers there at the moment. | 09:57 |
| SuperMatt | how... how are they making any money off that? | 09:57 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | They've just introduced some new ones... http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produktmatrix/rootserver-produktmatrix-ex/ | 09:57 |
| SuperMatt | what's the catch? | 09:58 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | None we have found. | 09:58 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | They are root servers, i.e. h/w so we look after everything on top. | 09:58 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | They keep the metal working and the network working. | 09:58 |
| SuperMatt | sure | 09:58 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Been using them for a couple of years now. | 09:59 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | A couple of minor network outages in that time but nothing serious. | 09:59 |
| SuperMatt | but surely the cost of procurement, networking equiptment, electricity and connectivity cost more than that? | 09:59 |
| diplo | TheOpenSourcerer: Ordering mine next month for work | 09:59 |
| MooDoo | i've heard so many people talking about them, can't be that bad then | 09:59 |
| diplo | SuperMatt: I do wonder the same, but I guess that's their problem :) | 09:59 |
| diplo | If it's good enough for TheOpenSourcerer, I guess it's worth a try, our current reseller causes me headaches | 10:00 |
| diplo | Only thing I'm not looking forward to is looking after it, got quite a workload atm | 10:00 |
| SuperMatt | poor thing | 10:01 |
| diplo | My only issue is that I need a web hosting panel for other staff | 10:01 |
| diplo | Trying a few out atm | 10:01 |
| SuperMatt | at the moment, I'm just messing around with name servers | 10:01 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | They've just upped the bandwidth limits too - from 5TB / mnth to 20 TB | 10:02 |
| MooDoo | diplo: cpanel is the easiest i've foind. | 10:02 |
| MooDoo | found | 10:02 |
| * TheOpenSourcerer hates all of them | 10:03 | |
| diplo | Yeah, but to buy a license it's quite expensive | 10:03 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Plesk is evil. | 10:03 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Cpanel is just crap. | 10:03 |
| diplo | I'd rather not TheOpenSourcerer, but staff aren't that great | 10:03 |
| MooDoo | i hate plesk | 10:03 |
| popey | hmm, i quite like the idea of having my own server | 10:03 |
| MooDoo | it's not crap it does what it's supposed to and seems quite handy | 10:03 |
| MooDoo | not that I have a cp on this box | 10:03 |
| AlanBell | it doesn't provide adequate separation between customers | 10:04 |
| MooDoo | popey: me too, i just got this vps via work. | 10:04 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | MooDoo: We have a customer for whom we look after some VMs. They run CPanel. | 10:04 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | It is crap. | 10:04 |
| MooDoo | in your oppinion :p | 10:04 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | In my *experience* | 10:04 |
| MooDoo | then again i'm only seeing it from a 1 customer / 1 cpanel point of view. | 10:04 |
| diplo | Looking at trying http://ajenti.org | 10:06 |
| diplo | Tried ISPConfig3 and Webmin/VirtualMin | 10:07 |
| MooDoo | then again why use a cp if you know what you're doing via command line. | 10:07 |
| diplo | I do MooDoo, other 17 staff don;t, they're worried if I or my colleague leave they may be a little screwed | 10:08 |
| MooDoo | lol | 10:08 |
| MooDoo | then you need to train them :D :p | 10:08 |
| diplo | They do stuff just to get it working, don't document *anything* | 10:08 |
| diplo | I've documented more in the last 3 years than all of them have in 17 years :/ | 10:08 |
| MooDoo | diplo: that's rubbish | 10:08 |
| MooDoo | and their own fault if anything goes wrong. | 10:09 |
| AlanBell | it isn't that it is a GUI that is a problem, that is fine | 10:09 |
| diplo | It is, it sucks.. but they are all using my documentation now | 10:09 |
| diplo | AlanBell: More that it does things non standard ? | 10:09 |
| MooDoo | quit and see what happend ;) | 10:09 |
| brobostigon | most of my documentation of my vps's are either in my head, or on several dozen post-it notes. not good. | 10:09 |
| diplo | That was m,y problem with a lot of them | 10:09 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | This is quite a good idea too. You can bid for old tin that customers have stopped using: https://robot.your-server.de/order/market | 10:09 |
| MooDoo | brobostigon: if it's your vps it doesn't matter, when it's a companies that's where the problems occur | 10:10 |
| brobostigon | MooDoo: yes, certainly. | 10:10 |
| diplo | http://www.phpmyfaq.de/ started using this now, used to have ODT's etc everywhere, preferring this | 10:10 |
| MooDoo | rhanks for that TheOpenSourcerer didn't know about that | 10:10 |
| diplo | Get my server here on Monday, so going to boot up some VM's to test and make a decision on a panel or just very good documentation | 10:11 |
| MooDoo | diplo: big powerful box? | 10:12 |
| AlanBell | diplo: a bit, the big issue is separation, it also tries to do too much of the DNS stuff, and does email etc | 10:13 |
| diplo | Hand me down from the company that owns us, but fairly powerful.. not seen it or been given specs | 10:13 |
| MooDoo | diplo: cool, I want a big server for vmware | 10:14 |
| AlanBell | there is a rather nice core i7 980ex with SSD for €78/month there | 10:14 |
| diplo | yeah, we have them in nottingham but nobody again knows what they're doing and also if the line drops I can't work on them | 10:14 |
| MooDoo | diplo: give me lots of money and I'll go look after them for you ;) | 10:15 |
| MooDoo | lol | 10:15 |
| AlanBell | we also find that with cpanel everyone continues to not know what they are doing :) | 10:15 |
| MooDoo | I suppose it does bring out the laziness in people :) | 10:15 |
| diplo | Basically, each staff member knows how to do there thing, they never look for whats causing an issue they just reinstall etc | 10:15 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | s\there\their | 10:16 |
| diplo | Never helps, so with my documentation I've added issues part to the bottom, issues that occur and how to resolve in common cases | 10:16 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | s\whats\what's | 10:16 |
| MooDoo | diplo: they need a kick up the jacksy :d | 10:16 |
| diplo | heh :P | 10:16 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 10:16 |
| diplo | TheOpenSourcerer, I type badly when typing fast. | 10:16 |
| MooDoo | morning diplo | 10:16 |
| MooDoo | morning davmor2 even :D | 10:16 |
| * diplo slaps own wrist | 10:16 | |
| diplo | MooDoo: They do! | 10:17 |
| MooDoo | diplo: i've got a good size 11, what's the address ;) | 10:17 |
| diplo | Colwick trading estate :) | 10:17 |
| diplo | I know where it is, if you saw the *serveR* room you'd laugh :) | 10:18 |
| MooDoo | diplo: i know it's colwick i was teasing :D | 10:18 |
| * TheOpenSourcerer might have found some sport for next Sunday: https://twitter.com/BOYCEYSPIZZA/status/357472308358680576/photo/1 | 10:20 | |
| AlanBell | go for it! | 10:20 |
| MooDoo | awesome, i'd have a go at that :d | 10:21 |
| diplo | I'm not sure I can handle hot stuff like I used to | 10:22 |
| MooDoo | ghost chilli is nice | 10:22 |
| diplo | About to start making currys again soon, so will see how I get on with them first | 10:22 |
| MooDoo | bhut jolikia mash is a stable part of my weekend bacon cob routine :D | 10:23 |
| * TheOpenSourcerer needs to prepare his food plan.. Wife and kids go to France for a week next Thursday. | 10:23 | |
| diplo | how come you're not going TheOpenSourcerer ? | 10:24 |
| brobostigon | bachelor life for a week, | 10:24 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | They are camping. I do not camp | 10:24 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Would rather stick Bhut Jolokias in my eyeballs | 10:24 |
| brobostigon | i like my bath too much, i dont camp either. | 10:24 |
| diplo | hah, taking my kids camping next month. Love it | 10:24 |
| MooDoo | going to bakewell this weekend with the family :D | 10:25 |
| brobostigon | i should try glamping, | 10:25 |
| MooDoo | lol | 10:25 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Having said that, I *might* camp at the West Dean Chilli fiesta this year, but just one night and a little one-man tent jobby. | 10:26 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: Nice | 10:26 |
| SuperMatt | http://www.infoworld.com/d/data-center/nine-traits-of-the-veteran-network-admin-222513 | 10:27 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: handing having rents with a van sometimes ;) | 10:27 |
| === Hornet- is now known as Hornet | ||
| davmor2 | MooDoo: indeed, if the mother-in-law wasn't in hospital we would of gone off to Shropshire this weekend | 10:29 |
| MooDoo | :( | 10:29 |
| brobostigon | would most agree, that the when the charge light on a camera is red, it is charging? | 10:30 |
| MooDoo | brobostigon: flashing? or just on | 10:31 |
| brobostigon | MooDoo: just on, | 10:31 |
| popey | I would read the manual to find out | 10:31 |
| brobostigon | i cant find the manual. | 10:32 |
| MooDoo | +1, what camera brobostigon ? | 10:32 |
| davmor2 | popey: pffff call yourself a man the manual went in the trash with the box ;) | 10:32 |
| popey | I meant - get a pdf | 10:32 |
| davmor2 | popey: at least you are sounding like a geek now :D | 10:33 |
| brobostigon | MooDoo: it is one of my dads cheap digital cameras, it says, traveler dv-500, on the caseing. | 10:33 |
| davmor2 | brobostigon: get the pdf from the manufacturers website | 10:33 |
| brobostigon | davmor2: good point, yes. | 10:33 |
| MooDoo | pah ah video camera | 10:34 |
| brobostigon | yes. | 10:35 |
| MooDoo | the don't have a historical page, try this one. | 10:35 |
| MooDoo | http://www.traveler-service.de/cms/index.php?id=downloads-traveler-dv550hd-uk0 | 10:35 |
| brobostigon | MooDoo: thank you, i just foundthat same page myself also. | 10:36 |
| davmor2 | brobostigon: did you hear the disdain from MooDoo for it not being a stills camera then :D | 10:36 |
| brobostigon | davmor2: it can take pictures also, it is both. | 10:36 |
| MooDoo | brobostigon: a blinking light confirms charding a stable light is when it's completed. | 10:37 |
| MooDoo | brobostigon: "You must use the supplied AC charger or USB cable.camera must be turned OFF; a blinking | 10:37 |
| MooDoo | light confirms charging, but the light is steady when charging has been completed." | 10:37 |
| brobostigon | stable of any colour ? | 10:38 |
| MooDoo | brobostigon: that's from the 550 manual, i know nothing more :p | 10:38 |
| brobostigon | MooDoo: i am looking in the 5000 manual right now. | 10:38 |
| MooDoo | thought you said it was a 500? | 10:39 |
| MooDoo | did I miss a 0? | 10:39 |
| MooDoo | lol | 10:39 |
| brobostigon | MooDoo: i think we both did abit, i think i did correct myself. | 10:39 |
| MooDoo | brobostigon: i'm blind :F | 10:40 |
| MooDoo | :F | 10:40 |
| MooDoo | arrrgh can't type either. | 10:40 |
| brobostigon | ohwell, thats both of us then. | 10:40 |
| brobostigon | :( | 10:40 |
| brobostigon | wow, the manual says it has motion detection, amazing. | 10:41 |
| SuperMatt | I wonder, has anyone had much trouble with dejadup? I'm thinking of using it to back up some of my stuff, but I do kinda worry about it only keeping "updates" | 10:48 |
| popey | eh? | 10:50 |
| popey | it's just like rsnapshot / time machine / rdiff-backup | 10:50 |
| SuperMatt | yeah, but I mean... I worry about losing the first file, which means the backup is broken completely | 10:52 |
| popey | you could worry about losing any file in any backup | 10:53 |
| MooDoo | if you're worried about that, why not just use rsync to another drive/server? | 10:53 |
| SuperMatt | I guess | 10:54 |
| SuperMatt | I guess I get a little too paranoid | 10:54 |
| MooDoo | me too why is why i rsync to a server and then rsync the server to a nas lol | 10:55 |
| SuperMatt | I might just give dejadup a bash | 10:56 |
| davmor2 | SuperMatt: Keep 1 manual backup (have a look at the server guide for a good script) and then keep a regular dejadup backup, If you aren't happy with what you get from dejadup you can always rebase from the manual | 10:56 |
| MooDoo | SuperMatt: just get davmor2 to set it up for you, he's nice like that ;) | 10:58 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: no! and me and nice in the same sentence don't make me set czajkowski on you | 10:58 |
| SuperMatt | Oh I know what I'm doing with rsync, et all | 10:59 |
| SuperMatt | you should see some of the scripts I've made in the past | 10:59 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: she's not interested in me, she might however stab you completely :D | 10:59 |
| SuperMatt | but I'm just thinking of a low thrills, minimum interaction alternative | 10:59 |
| davmor2 | SuperMatt: the thing with dejadup is it is convenient | 11:00 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: script + cron then you don't have to worry about running anything manually :D | 11:00 |
| SuperMatt | these days I look more for confenience than awesomeness | 11:01 |
| MooDoo | or what the heck, be a rebel and don't make backups...;) | 11:01 |
| SuperMatt | nooooooo | 11:02 |
| SuperMatt | no no no no no | 11:02 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: My point was if you wanted to try dejadup and weren't sure you could run a test, but have a manual backup initially, so that if dejadup couldn't restore etc you had an alternate backup that could | 11:02 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: okey cokey :D | 11:02 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: and play with code on production | 11:02 |
| SuperMatt | I'm talking about backs for home, btw | 11:03 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: playing with code on production is right though? I thought that's what you should be doing, i've been advising people to do that ;) | 11:03 |
| SuperMatt | my work backup solution is a set of python scripts which scans a folder for the last version of a backup, and then does a hard linked backup of the latest data. When that's done, it then removes the oldest backup, all based on variables configured in json files | 11:04 |
| MooDoo | I just use cp -Rv ;) | 11:04 |
| MooDoo | i meant Ru | 11:05 |
| SuperMatt | that's not bad | 11:05 |
| SuperMatt | but the hard linked method is pretty cool, because you get snapshots of each sync and you can restore directly to that version | 11:06 |
| SuperMatt | copying across only one file, or all of them | 11:06 |
| popey | i just run rsnapshot on a server and it pulls from all my machines every 6 hours | 11:07 |
| penguin42 | SuperMatt: Depending on the data have you considered pushing it into a git repo? | 11:07 |
| popey | neuro: that lazy delete thing isn't working out so well.. | 11:08 |
| SuperMatt | it's all my music and phots | 11:08 |
| popey | neuro: 6 of them sat there | 11:08 |
| neuro | how slow/full is the storage you're using? :( | 11:08 |
| popey | should probably half the number of backups I am doing to give the deletes a chance to happen | 11:08 |
| SuperMatt | standard hdds, not full at all ;) | 11:08 |
| SuperMatt | I've just added 4TB | 11:08 |
| SuperMatt | to my previous 6TB | 11:08 |
| neuro | not you, ya tube :) | 11:09 |
| popey | 12x2TB 7200rpm jobbies | 11:09 |
| popey | btrfs volume, not too full | 11:09 |
| popey | but it's a microserver so IO is a little starved | 11:09 |
| SuperMatt | oh | 11:09 |
| popey | think I'll suspend the job for a bit, wait for it to settle then restart it with fewer jobs | 11:09 |
| popey | less frequent | 11:09 |
| neuro | shame | 11:09 |
| popey | its not a quick box | 11:10 |
| neuro | i know | 11:10 |
| popey | and backing up boxes which have lots of files | 11:10 |
| popey | 0 */2 * * * /usr/bin/rsnapshot hourly | 11:10 |
| neuro | tho i do my backups to a microserver | 11:10 |
| neuro | yeesh, really? | 11:10 |
| popey | maybe change that to */4 ? | 11:10 |
| neuro | neuro@saratoga:~$ sudo grep hourly /etc/cron.d/rsnapshot | 11:11 |
| neuro | 0 */4* * *root/usr/bin/rsnapshot hourly | 11:11 |
| popey | hah | 11:11 |
| popey | done! | 11:11 |
| popey | will suspend them for the day and let the deletes happen though | 11:11 |
| neuro | unless you're desperate for the data to be updated that often, every 4 hours works for me | 11:11 |
| popey | yeah | 11:11 |
| neuro | my hourlies are done in about 75 minutes | 11:12 |
| neuro | + 20 for the delete | 11:12 |
| neuro | and that's backing up to 2x1TB USB2 in a raid1 md config | 11:12 |
| neuro | argh, i've run out of cold cherry 7up in my wee office fridge | 11:14 |
| SuperMatt | :( | 11:14 |
| MooDoo | neuro: beoff with you to the shops | 11:15 |
| SuperMatt | lemon fanta is my drink of choice | 11:15 |
| neuro | nah, i still have 8 cans left | 11:15 |
| neuro | just not cold | 11:15 |
| davmor2 | neuro: you wee in an office fridge is that not unhygienic? | 11:20 |
| neuro | tsk | 11:20 |
| neuro | i have a wee, as in small, fridge | 11:21 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: he's scottish you know that :d | 11:21 |
| davmor2 | neuro: I know that, it's just fun :D | 11:21 |
| neuro | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13137/Photo%2019-07-2013%2012%2019%2036.jpg | 11:21 |
| neuro | wow, that came out blurrier than i thought it would | 11:22 |
| SuperMatt | wait stop! | 11:22 |
| SuperMatt | why did that jpg load SIDEWAYS? | 11:22 |
| SuperMatt | oh wait, I know | 11:22 |
| neuro | because i had my phone held up in landscape mode" | 11:22 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperMatt: because of its exif! | 11:22 |
| SuperMatt | the exif data has rotated it | 11:22 |
| neuro | :) | 11:22 |
| SuperMatt | TECHNOLOGY! | 11:22 |
| SuperMatt | it'll never catch on | 11:22 |
| MartijnVdS | neuro: aww, cute fridge :) | 11:23 |
| neuro | yeah, i likes it | 11:23 |
| neuro | holds 6 330ml cans | 11:23 |
| MartijnVdS | holds just enough beer for an afternoon of work ;) | 11:23 |
| neuro | or 2 330ml cans and a 500ml bottle of irn bru shoved in diagonally | 11:23 |
| SuperMatt | your mistake was not putting new cans back in when you drank the old cans | 11:23 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperMatt: You're a genius! | 11:23 |
| neuro | yes, thank you captain obvious :) | 11:23 |
| MooDoo | blast from the past :D - http://www.flickr.com/photos/jgbeezer/2689182642/in/photostream/ | 11:24 |
| MartijnVdS | lugradians | 11:24 |
| neuro | the fridge in less cramped, more beery days: http://www.flickr.com/photos/neuro/293997137/ | 11:25 |
| neuro | that old crappy switch is off to the right of the first pic now, replaced by an hp procurve. TECHNOLOGY! | 11:26 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: man that is but the best photo is this one http://www.flickr.com/photos/8038433@N06/2701522887/ | 11:27 |
| neuro | christ, i never realised how hairy mrben is/was | 11:28 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: you git | 11:28 |
| davmor2 | neuro: we didn't call him Chewie for the fun of it | 11:28 |
| neuro | i can beat that pic tho | 11:29 |
| neuro | probably nsfw: http://www.flickr.com/photos/neuro/2682684128/in/set-72157606256950381 | 11:29 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: revenge is sweet ;) http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1328/799483638_b8983eddbd.jpg?v=0 | 11:29 |
| neuro | AAAAAAAAH! | 11:29 |
| neuro | forgot about that | 11:29 |
| MooDoo | hehe | 11:30 |
| MartijnVdS | neuro: time for some brain bleach | 11:30 |
| bigcalm | Gah. I'm really struggling with how network routing works | 11:30 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: that was Chris Debona's first image walking into LRL for sponsorship to take it to the states :) | 11:30 |
| MooDoo | lol ha ha hah a | 11:30 |
| MooDoo | wasn't to bad an image then | 11:31 |
| MooDoo | i'm waiting for gong a thong uukpc edition, popey style ;) | 11:31 |
| neuro | NOOO | 11:31 |
| MooDoo | EXTREAME GONG A THONG :D | 11:31 |
| neuro | oh the humanity | 11:31 |
| Dave2 | RMS should do it | 11:32 |
| neuro | *gag* | 11:32 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: Why? It's numbers, cables, and boxes :) | 11:32 |
| neuro | Dave2: thanks, nearly brought my breakfast back up there | 11:32 |
| Dave2 | yw | 11:33 |
| bigcalm | I have a VPN set up from a Rackspace firewall to an ADSL router. I'm trying to route traffic from a box connected to the ADSL router to a server connected to the Rackspace firewall | 11:33 |
| bigcalm | And I can't work out how | 11:33 |
| davmor2 | Dave2: Could you stay where you are the men in white coats are on their way, and they'll only have to dart you if you move | 11:34 |
| neuro | i'll move YOUR dart | 11:34 |
| MooDoo | get Jono to do it instead....he wouldn't mind ;) | 11:35 |
| bigcalm | # ip route add ip_address_of_server/32 via 192.168.5.1 dev eth0 | 11:35 |
| bigcalm | RTNETLINK answers: No such process | 11:35 |
| bigcalm | 192.168.5.1 being the ip address that the VPN has assigned to the ADSL router for the VPN connection | 11:35 |
| neuro | grrr, time to lart chrome ... "GPU Process 1.3GB" | 11:36 |
| neuro | bigcalm: does your machine have an IP on the same subnet? | 11:36 |
| neuro | why not just route via the LAN-facing IP, and let the router's routing table sort it out? | 11:37 |
| bigcalm | neuro: no, it has an ip address of 192.168.1.4 | 11:37 |
| neuro | ip route add ip_addr_server/32 via 192.168.1.1 dev eth0 or whatever | 11:37 |
| bigcalm | Right, tried that, it's stalling when I run mtr ip_address_of_server | 11:37 |
| neuro | which perhaps means the router is misconfigured | 11:37 |
| bigcalm | :| | 11:38 |
| neuro | think about it | 11:38 |
| bigcalm | Do I need to add a route do the box if the default route is via the router any way? | 11:38 |
| neuro | if you use the VPN-side IP of the router in a route, how does the machine get to that VPN-side IP? | 11:38 |
| bigcalm | I'm happy for the router to do the routing :) | 11:39 |
| neuro | can you ping the VPN IP on the router from rackspace? | 11:39 |
| neuro | or vice versa? | 11:39 |
| bigcalm | I've removed the route I added to the local box. Running mtr on the rackspace ip address shows packets being sent/received in the VPN's management screen | 11:41 |
| bigcalm | So that's working | 11:41 |
| neuro | what happens if you try to hit the rackspace VPN IP from the box? | 11:42 |
| bigcalm | The IP seems to be the same as its public ip | 11:43 |
| bigcalm | The only other rackspace IP I see is that of the firewall | 11:43 |
| neuro | don't you have a 192.168.5 IP on the other end? | 11:44 |
| mungbean | why do they put those pull-tabs on the corner of bacon packets? nbody has ever successfully opened a packet with one | 11:46 |
| neuro | lies | 11:46 |
| * popey wonders if mungbean is trying out his new stand up comedy routine on us | 11:47 | |
| mungbean | lol. | 11:47 |
| mungbean | just tried it for the millionth time. one day... | 11:47 |
| mungbean | friday = bacon day | 11:48 |
| mungbean | at home doing daddy duty today while wifey has a day off | 11:48 |
| mungbean | going tough after < 5hr sleep | 11:48 |
| MooDoo | 5 hours is about the norm for me lol | 11:49 |
| mungbean | have a lol at an email MS sent me about the surface | 11:49 |
| mungbean | http://pastebin.com/GaBedKiz | 11:49 |
| mungbean | Why is Microsoft making such an aggressive Surface RT offer to education now? | 11:50 |
| mungbean | A. Microsoft has a long tradition of offering special pricing to education customers. Microsoft’s mission in education is to help schools, students and educators realise their full potential. | 11:50 |
| mungbean | not a firesale of 6M device then | 11:50 |
| popey | yeah, touchpad all over again | 11:50 |
| popey | but nobody wants them | 11:50 |
| neuro | does it say "LOLZ WE SUCK BARGAINS MUCH CHEAPNESS HAHA NO DO NOT BUY IPAD ZOMG BAD BY SURFAZZZZ LOOK CHEEP NOT MANY UKPS DDOOOOOOOO IIIIIITTTT!" | 11:50 |
| popey | if they were 100 quid, they'd fly off the shelves | 11:50 |
| neuro | s/touchpad/playbook/ | 11:51 |
| mungbean | £133+VAT | 11:51 |
| mungbean | i might tile my bathroom with them | 11:51 |
| neuro | i see what you did there | 11:51 |
| popey | I think I'll pass on your generous offer | 11:52 |
| popey | I vowed not to buy any more phones/tablets till an ubuntu one appears | 11:52 |
| mungbean | i wouldn't buy one for any money | 11:53 |
| mungbean | or maybe a £20 limit if it runs kindle app | 11:53 |
| mungbean | the trouble with doing wife swap for a day is that you are doing a job that you haven't learned the timing and efficiencies, hence wifey says HA! told you | 11:54 |
| neuro | err, ok? | 11:54 |
| popey | my wife is at the park with the kids | 11:55 |
| popey | having a picnic (booboo) | 11:55 |
| mungbean | i'm not saying its easy, far from it. but it makes it look worse when i'[m always running late | 11:55 |
| neuro | right, updates application time, brb | 11:59 |
| mungbean | just realised i've hardly opened a single letter addressed to me since the start of 2013 | 12:02 |
| mungbean | i just put it in my inpile | 12:02 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| mungbean | dota2 looks meh | 12:09 |
| neuro | woo security updates ftw | 12:10 |
| neuro | well, security update, singular | 12:11 |
| MooDoo | silly question, anyone read this? - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ubuntu-Certified-Professional-Study-Guide/dp/0071591109/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1374238752&sr=8-4&keywords=ubuntu+certification | 12:59 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| neuro | yes, i can read that | 13:04 |
| neuro | it's in English, right? | 13:04 |
| neuro | seriously though, it's almost 5 years old | 13:05 |
| neuro | no way is it up-to-date for either ubuntu or LPIC | 13:05 |
| shauno | I don't believe that certification exists anymore. that's how out-of-date 2008 is | 13:07 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: http://i.imgur.com/IiO5aBa.png | 13:40 |
| SuperMatt | pfft | 13:42 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: O' be..have, groovy baby | 13:42 |
| MooDoo | :) | 13:42 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea | ||
| === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g | ||
| arc__ | anyway when i upgraded to 12.04 i lost all of my packages and they where compatible with 12.04.1 so i am confused | 14:40 |
| popey | arc__: lost packages? | 14:43 |
| arc__ | yeah it had an error when installing/upgrading saying that can't restore all packages | 14:44 |
| MooDoo | wow it does go quiet in here on a friday afternoon :D | 15:02 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: they are all parttimers so they can go drinking in the sun on a friday | 15:03 |
| MooDoo | lol | 15:04 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Wow! Australia 97-7 lol | 15:08 |
| popey | speak for yourself davmor2 ☻ | 15:08 |
| * popey is dogfooding | 15:08 | |
| TheOpenSourcerer | davmor2: Some of us are still working | 15:08 |
| davmor2 | popey: Oh so you are at the pub ircing on your phone then right ;) | 15:08 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | But the beer is definitely starting to call loudly | 15:09 |
| davmor2 | TheOpenSourcerer: I'll be working till 21:00 | 15:09 |
| popey | davmor2: haha! kinda! | 15:09 |
| popey | I am setting up ssh keys etc on phone so it's ready for travel next week | 15:10 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I'll be drinking way beyond that! | 15:10 |
| davmor2 | popey: when do you head off? | 15:10 |
| popey | sunday | 15:10 |
| davmor2 | popey: and when you see Jono, "Dave says 'Owamya LOSER" | 15:11 |
| popey | i dont think i could do your accent justice | 15:12 |
| MooDoo | popey: just screw up your face and say it, you'll be about right ;) | 15:12 |
| davmor2 | popey: in all seriousness, tell jono all the best for marks talk that he is doing, I hope he does it justice :) | 15:13 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | 104-8! | 15:14 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Australia are collapsing | 15:14 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | (muffled gafaw) | 15:14 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | W00t! 104-9 | 15:22 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Need 58 runs to avoid the follow on. ROTFLOL | 15:23 |
| bigcalm | I can see clouds. Woohoo! | 15:30 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: Finally, a place to store your data/backups ;) | 15:35 |
| bigcalm | :P | 15:43 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Yay! Australia all out | 15:50 |
| MartijnVdS | "Computerphile" about the Unix revolution: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rPPqm44xLs | 15:58 |
| popey | thanks MartijnVdS | 16:00 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: beautiful history :) | 16:01 |
| popey | might download these and put on phone for watching on the flight | 16:04 |
| popey | haha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcR7ylW-Gok | 16:19 |
| popey | i know him! | 16:19 |
| popey | he brought his cabinet to lugradio | 16:20 |
| bigcalm | Oh I miss Defender | 16:23 |
| popey | i remember playing R-Type Leo on that very cabinet at LRL | 16:25 |
| directhex | i still want a neo geo, but i don't have money or space | 16:26 |
| directhex | hell, i lack the space for an xbox one or ps4, which are higher priority if we're honest | 16:26 |
| mungbean | can anyone recommend a good strimmer? | 16:45 |
| popey | i like mine | 16:52 |
| popey | http://www.amazon.co.uk/diy-tools/dp/B00518BPHS one of them i think | 16:53 |
| davmor2 | mungbean: depends do you actually want to own one or is it a one off strim? | 16:55 |
| davmor2 | mungbean: if it's a one off strim look up a local hireshop | 16:58 |
| mungbean | own a cheap but ok one | 16:58 |
| mungbean | are the v cheap ones worse than useless? | 16:59 |
| davmor2 | mungbean: in that case the decent cheap ones are all around a £100 | 16:59 |
| mungbean | :( | 16:59 |
| mungbean | more than my lawnmower | 17:00 |
| davmor2 | mungbean: well you can buy a cheap electric one but your emphasis seem to be on decent :P | 17:01 |
| mungbean | might borrow my mums.. | 17:01 |
| mungbean | i sort of meant, if i spend 30 quid on an electric one , is it a comple waste? | 17:02 |
| popey | i have no recent experience of electric ones | 17:03 |
| popey | we bought that one 10 years ago, still going strong | 17:03 |
| davmor2 | mungbean: the petrol ones tend to be better. | 17:04 |
| mungbean | my garden is pretty small | 17:05 |
| mungbean | might borrow my mums and go from there | 17:05 |
| popey | mine is small too | 17:06 |
| popey | takes no time at all to mow | 17:06 |
| davmor2 | mungbean: borrow your moms this time, and hire a petrol one next time and see which is less of a faff it will help you decide :) | 17:06 |
| mungbean | astroturf : | 17:07 |
| mungbean | :D | 17:07 |
| davmor2 | concrete | 17:07 |
| popey | heh | 17:08 |
| davmor2 | mungbean: move into a block of flats and you too can have a balcony like mine :D | 17:08 |
| arc__ | hi i have a question when i upgraded i lost all of my packages | 18:10 |
| MartijnVdS | arc__: how did you upgrade? | 18:10 |
| arc__ | via live usb | 18:10 |
| MartijnVdS | so you did a re-install, not an upgrade | 18:10 |
| arc__ | no it had a upgarde button | 18:11 |
| MartijnVdS | And upgrade is done from a running Ubuntu system | 18:11 |
| arc__ | yes | 18:11 |
| MartijnVdS | not from the live USB/CD | 18:11 |
| arc__ | i had 11.10 and i used a live usb to upgrade to 12.04.1 | 18:12 |
| MartijnVdS | you shouldn't have used the live-usb, you should just have clicked "Upgrade" in the security update tool | 18:12 |
| arc__ | if this help it said in the upgrade unable to restore packages | 18:13 |
| MartijnVdS | using the live USB just re-installs the operating system cleanly | 18:13 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: any idea? | 18:13 |
| popey | uh | 18:13 |
| popey | so you say "live usb" you booted from that live usb stick? | 18:13 |
| arc__ | yeah | 18:13 |
| popey | did it finish okay? | 18:14 |
| arc__ | yeah 1 error | 18:15 |
| arc__ | could not restore packages | 18:16 |
| popey | right, so it failed | 18:16 |
| popey | unfortunate | 18:16 |
| popey | so what it does is this.. scan your system for packages it doesn't recognise, and then find all the files and re-package them up.. | 18:17 |
| popey | then delete all the files (except home and etc) and do a clean install | 18:17 |
| popey | then takes those packages it made and puts them back on top | 18:17 |
| popey | thats the bit that failed | 18:17 |
| arc__ | yes | 18:17 |
| popey | now I don't know if those packages are still lurking around somewhere on your filesystem, I don't fully know how that works | 18:17 |
| popey | sorry, I suspect your packages are gone. | 18:18 |
| popey | I'd be interested to know the solution though if they are still around, i've never done that kind of upgrade | 18:18 |
| arc__ | shall i ask in #ubuntu | 18:19 |
| arc__ | usa | 18:19 |
| popey | ok | 18:19 |
| popey | maybe post a question to askubuntu.com with the above detail about how you did the install, I'd be interested in following it | 18:19 |
| arc__ | i will ask in #ubuntu and if no help i will use askubuntu | 18:20 |
| arc__ | I am adding it to ask ubuntu now | 18:27 |
| arc__ | i have put this Hello I did an upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 and all my packages have gone it only showed 1 error that the upgrade was unable to restore packages I am new to ubuntu so any help is good | 18:27 |
| arc__ | anything else to add or to delete before putting it on | 18:28 |
| arc__ | i have put it on there http://askubuntu.com/questions/321990/packages-gone-in-upgrade | 18:58 |
| arc__ | have a look and answer plz | 18:58 |
| puttepop | Hello, any developers here? | 19:18 |
| MartijnVdS | puttepop: developers of what? | 19:22 |
| puttepop | java with gnome bindings | 19:22 |
| MartijnVdS | probably better off asking on their channel specifically | 19:22 |
| puttepop | tried but it seems to be dead | 19:22 |
| MartijnVdS | puttepop: it's on irc.gimp.org, #java-gnome, according to the googles | 19:22 |
| puttepop | yes I know :) | 19:23 |
| * penguin42 has never heard of anyone doing java+gnome | 19:23 | |
| MartijnVdS | the mailinglist is a bit active | 19:23 |
| MartijnVdS | not much, but a little | 19:23 |
| MartijnVdS | doesn't Swing have a GTK+ theme? | 19:23 |
| puttepop | Oh, OK I'll subscribe to that then | 19:23 |
| puttepop | Yes, it does, but I wanted to learn GTK+ and java is my favourite language | 19:24 |
| MartijnVdS | puttepop: try vala, it's written "for" GTK work, and has quite a few Java-ish bits ;) | 19:24 |
| MartijnVdS | and it's actively used by lots of stuff, like Shotwell | 19:25 |
| arc__ | does anynoe know of any good desktop enviroments | 19:25 |
| MartijnVdS | arc__: I rather like the default one in Ubuntu (unity) | 19:25 |
| puttepop | MartijnVdS, what is vala? | 19:25 |
| MartijnVdS | puttepop: https://wiki.gnome.org/Vala | 19:26 |
| arc__ | i need a fast and light one for my laptop not lxde or xcfe | 19:26 |
| puttepop | MartijnVdS, thanks | 19:26 |
| MartijnVdS | arc__: why not those two? | 19:26 |
| arc__ | i want it to look good and light weight | 19:26 |
| puttepop | MartijnVdS, Thanks for the pointer but I'm not interested in learning yet another programming language | 19:27 |
| MartijnVdS | puttepop: it's not that much different from other modern languages | 19:27 |
| MartijnVdS | puttepop: and you should always be learning more languages -- every language you learn has some concept you'll want to re-use in another (and that will make you better as a programmer ;) | 19:28 |
| puttepop | MartijnVdS, If I only had the time | 19:28 |
| MartijnVdS | puttepop: but you do: it's the weekend! | 19:28 |
| puttepop | MartijnVdS, I also like to be a bit social :) | 19:29 |
| MartijnVdS | puttepop: well the vala community is active | 19:29 |
| puttepop | MartijnVdS, OK thanks anyway | 19:30 |
| MartijnVdS | puttepop: np, and good luck finding gnome-java help :) | 19:44 |
| puttepop | MartijnVdS, Cheers :) | 19:44 |
| HoT|2fC^ | hey up :) | 19:53 |
| MartijnVdS | \o HoT|2fC^ | 19:53 |
| HoT|2fC^ | Just ordered my first ever rack mount server :D | 19:53 |
| HoT|2fC^ | I cant wait :) | 19:53 |
| penguin42 | HoT|2fC^: What type of spec? | 19:53 |
| === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away | ||
| HoT|2fC^ | penguin42, its a Dual 2.4GHz Xeon, 3GB, 36.4GB HArd Drive, DVD ROM, with case all for £50 | 19:54 |
| HoT|2fC^ | currently downloading 13.04 ubuntu server for it :) doesnt come untill monday :) | 19:55 |
| penguin42 | HoT|2fC^: OK, cool - you'd be pushed to get the case and PSU for that; is that single socket dual core, or dual socket how many cores? | 19:55 |
| HoT|2fC^ | its 8 cores I think | 19:56 |
| HoT|2fC^ | x2 dual core | 19:56 |
| HoT|2fC^ | xeon | 19:56 |
| penguin42 | well #50 for somewhere between 4 and 8 cores ain't too bad - I mean I assume that's a P4 era xeon, but still | 19:56 |
| HoT|2fC^ | It comes with 2 hotplug psu's case, all of them | 19:56 |
| HoT|2fC^ | P4 yeah | 19:57 |
| HoT|2fC^ | by HP | 19:57 |
| HoT|2fC^ | \o/ | 19:57 |
| penguin42 | what's it going to be called? | 19:57 |
| HoT|2fC^ | Lucy | 19:57 |
| HoT|2fC^ | :-) | 19:57 |
| penguin42 | good good | 19:58 |
| HoT|2fC^ | get spare hard drive caddy to :p | 19:58 |
| penguin42 | yeh that's good they can be pricey - what type drives - wide scsi? | 19:59 |
| HoT|2fC^ | HP ProLiant DL380 it is.. | 19:59 |
| penguin42 | which gen? | 19:59 |
| HoT|2fC^ | G3 mate | 19:59 |
| HoT|2fC^ | is it good ? :o | 20:01 |
| penguin42 | HoT|2fC^: Nod, might want to watch out for drives for it, SCA SCSI drives are a bit scarce/pricey these days | 20:01 |
| HoT|2fC^ | :O | 20:01 |
| HoT|2fC^ | comes with one so im ok :) | 20:01 |
| HoT|2fC^ | 36gb is enuff for now | 20:01 |
| HoT|2fC^ | most data thats going to be going on a hard drive will be my CCTV box recording on a 1TB hard drive an thats going to a switch along wi th the server. | 20:02 |
| penguin42 | now, you going to get a Lak rack for it? | 20:02 |
| HoT|2fC^ | Well not sure its going in the basement could I put it on top of a computer desk for time being ? | 20:02 |
| penguin42 | oh yeh | 20:03 |
| HoT|2fC^ | I would like a rack for it but im cheap so lol | 20:03 |
| HoT|2fC^ | its nice a cool down there so should be fine on temps like in this heat we have :p | 20:03 |
| penguin42 | HoT|2fC^: Oh no, the Lak is an Ikea table that just happens to be exactly the right width for rack kit :-) | 20:03 |
| HoT|2fC^ | ah nice | 20:03 |
| HoT|2fC^ | so its cheaper :p | 20:03 |
| HoT|2fC^ | I was looking at this | 20:03 |
| HoT|2fC^ | http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/server-rack-6U-/200935795183?pt=UK_Computing_Rackmount_Cabinets_Frames&hash=item2ec8b4e9ef | 20:03 |
| HoT|2fC^ | to small or big?? for my 2U G3? | 20:03 |
| penguin42 | http://wiki.eth0.nl/index.php/LackRack | 20:04 |
| HoT|2fC^ | you dutch ? :p | 20:04 |
| penguin42 | no | 20:04 |
| HoT|2fC^ | oh just said .nl at end of domain lol, ah nice thats a good idea | 20:04 |
| HoT|2fC^ | I have a desk down there but the width isnt the same so wouldnt work unless sI boxed it off | 20:05 |
| penguin42 | HoT|2fC^: Watch out for the depth of racks if you're buying one, also did it come with rack mounts? | 20:05 |
| HoT|2fC^ | penguin42 I dont think so :/ | 20:06 |
| HoT|2fC^ | Dimensions (W x D x H): 8.59 x 44.45 x 65.41 cm | 20:06 |
| HoT|2fC^ | Weight: Minimum configuration: 20.41 kg ; Maximum configuration: 27.22 kg | 20:06 |
| penguin42 | oh a light one :-) | 20:07 |
| HoT|2fC^ | :-) | 20:07 |
| shauno | that depth doesn't seem to match up. the ebay link said 310mm deep, those dims are 445mm deep | 20:09 |
| HoT|2fC^ | shauno yeah need a different size its something I would want for it :) | 20:10 |
| HoT|2fC^ | the type of cabbie | 20:10 |
| shauno | I tend to stick to 2-post for short setups. those short racks tend to be for comms cabinets | 20:10 |
| HoT|2fC^ | :o | 20:11 |
| * penguin42 never figured out why they never managed to standardise depth of rack kit | 20:11 | |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: they had to have *something* to disagree over | 20:12 |
| HoT|2fC^ | lol | 20:12 |
| HoT|2fC^ | I dont mind ill put it on the floor and sit on it whilest configuring it lol so really dont mind :) | 20:12 |
| HoT|2fC^ | http://cdn.themetapicture.com/media/funny-cable-mess-server-room.jpg | 20:12 |
| penguin42 | well yeh, but it's really hard to get n vendors kit to fit in the same rack | 20:12 |
| HoT|2fC^ | Glad I dont have to mess around in there lol | 20:12 |
| penguin42 | where n is greater than 0 | 20:12 |
| HoT|2fC^ | so penguin42 will the table trick work then :) I might buy one in black an use that along with a 24port switch | 20:14 |
| MartijnVdS | HoT|2fC^: the IKEA one? Probably | 20:14 |
| MartijnVdS | http://wiki.eth0.nl/index.php/LackRack | 20:14 |
| HoT|2fC^ | so what about the back? how would it support it | 20:14 |
| MartijnVdS | HoT|2fC^: how would you do that in a real rack? | 20:16 |
| HoT|2fC^ | you wouldnt :) | 20:16 |
| MartijnVdS | the same, then | 20:16 |
| HoT|2fC^ | but I mean like how does it hold in the wood lol | 20:16 |
| HoT|2fC^ | remember there metal racks not wood :) | 20:16 |
| MartijnVdS | HoT|2fC^: see that wiki page | 20:16 |
| HoT|2fC^ | Ikea to ouch wouldnt that to crumble | 20:16 |
| MartijnVdS | HoT|2fC^: I think proper wood screws hold better than the flimsy metal I've seen in racks | 20:17 |
| HoT|2fC^ | ah ok :) | 20:17 |
| penguin42 | HoT|2fC^: In a real rack you'd typically have rack rails that bolt front and back for a server | 20:18 |
| MartijnVdS | and have an adjustable back part, so you could put that on the back legs of the table 8-) | 20:19 |
| HoT|2fC^ | cool :D | 20:19 |
| penguin42 | yeh although tend to be adjustable by slightly less than needed for the rack you're trying to put it in | 20:19 |
| HoT|2fC^ | for now its going on my desk raised on something | 20:20 |
| HoT|2fC^ | to let it breath underneight | 20:20 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: to quote one "J. Clarkson": "How hard can it be?" | 20:20 |
| penguin42 | sigh | 20:20 |
| shauno | one thing to watch with the rack lack .. the legs aren't solid all the way down | 20:20 |
| HoT|2fC^ | whos legs arent shauno | 20:21 |
| HoT|2fC^ | :p | 20:21 |
| penguin42 | MartijnVdS: I've used racks with adjustable back rails, and ones that have the back rails split into 4 independently adjustable rails split every 10u or so | 20:21 |
| HoT|2fC^ | only body builders :D | 20:21 |
| HoT|2fC^ | right moff to cool off next to fan :) bb all thanks for all advice! | 20:21 |
| HoT|2fC^ | great help. | 20:21 |
| SuperMatt | hmmm, replacing my fonts with source sans make everything look quite fresh, and beautiful | 20:58 |
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