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ChinnoDogAnyone here familiar with Postgres?00:25
ChinnoDogNever mind. I answered my own question.00:31
ChinnoDogI was trying to figure out the Postgres installers.00:31
InHisNameChinnoDog: Nope, been busy while waiting for replies.06:22
rmg51Morning09:33
jacksonmorning rmg5110:41
teddy-dbearMorning peoples, dogs, turkeys and everything else12:07
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ChinnoDogmorning14:23
teddy-dbearo/15:01
ChinnoDogInHisName: Did you fix it now?15:15
ChinnoDogSeems like booting to CLI login is always complicated. I don't want X to start because I have a remote X server. Anyone know how the cleanest way to do this on KDE?18:23
waltmanI think there's some way to change your runlevel during bootup, but I forget how.18:28
waltmanhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpstartHowto # this may help18:31
ChinnoDogI could configure another runlevel but modifying runlevel 2 would work just fine since I want all the normal stuff minus X.18:31
ChinnoDogLooking in etc/rc2.d I don't see a symlink for X or KDE though18:31
waltmanI set my default runlevel to 2, but I'm weird.18:32
ChinnoDogThere is a symlink for S99rc.local that goes to ../init.d/rc.local though. idk what that does18:33
ChinnoDogoh. It runs /etc/rc.local which does nothing by default.18:34
waltmanI think I'm beginning to see how you end up trashing your fstab :)18:35
ChinnoDog:-p18:37
ChinnoDogI only trash the fstab during boot because the valid mount flags for ext4 and btrfs have changed since I originally created notes on how I want to mount them18:38
ChinnoDogI installed Mint KDE and added a mount parameter for ext4 that is apparently no longer valid.18:38
jedijfChinnoDog: kdm.conf18:46
ChinnoDogWouldn't that be called after X is started?18:48
ChinnoDogIf I understand correctly X will start first and then KDE will be launched18:48
jedijfdm18:48
ChinnoDogHowever, I don't want X to start at all. I am going to start KDE from a remote terminal and X will be running there18:48
jedijfits the dm that starts the x18:49
jedijfg k fu etc18:49
ChinnoDogdm = ?18:50
jedijfdispolay manager18:50
jedijfdungeon master18:50
jedijfdisplay18:51
jedijfwaltman: must use debian - ubu has been runlevel vacant for years18:54
ChinnoDogI need to read more on this. ugh.. back to work for now18:54
jedijfnot 6; do a gui18:54
waltmanjedijf: 1) yes 2) huh18:55
jedijfupstart tee shirt ^^^^18:55
jedijfwaltman: no easyy run level control18:57
jedijfby default18:57
waltmanWait, so if my new linux box at home runs ubuntu, I can't go to the command line first?18:58
* waltman is old school18:58
waltmanalso old18:58
jedijfeasily, in the old standard ways - try it18:59
* waltman notes that this is an as-yet unpurchased new linux box :)18:59
jedijfwaltman: when there were alt install cd's, there was an option for cli only install (w/desktop kernel)19:11
jedijfyou could always do what i call a server plus install19:12
ChinnoDogServer install will have a number of other differences from desktop install19:13
ChinnoDogIt used to have a different kernel build. idk if that is still true.19:13
jedijfcorrect - thats why best way was cli only19:13
jedijfChinnoDog: re-read: < jedijf> waltman: when there were alt install cd's, there was an  option for cli only install (w/desktop kernel)19:14
ChinnoDogI used to do this when I first started using Ubuntu because I couldn't / wasn't ready to run Ubuntu on my main PC.19:14
ChinnoDogI ran Ubuntu on a headless workstation and remoted into it. Said workstation did not have much memory and since it was headless I did not need X running most of the time.19:16
jedijfalternate cli only is now 'minimal'19:53
jedijfhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD#A32-bit_PC_.28x86.2919:54
ChinnoDogjedijf: So, a window manager manages windows on the screen, nothing else. But, I don't want that. I don't want any graphical UI to load.22:42
ChinnoDogI am going to use the remote window manager.22:42
ChinnoDogI just want to boot to a command prompt22:42
ChinnoDogOr rather, a CLI login prompt.22:43
ChinnoDogI only ever intend to login at the terminal when my Linux box is borked.22:43
ChinnoDogI did it!23:06
ChinnoDogjedijf: You were right. I edited /etc/init/kdm.conf and set it to not start on runlevel 2.23:07
rmg51http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/boot-into-console-command-line-instead-of-x-549292/23:12
rmg51ChinnoDog: see if that helps ^^23:12
ChinnoDogI already made it work. I am good now. :-) Next challenge is starting KDE remotely.23:18
rmg51k23:19
ChinnoDogIt initializes most of the way and then gets stuck. Not sure if I want the whole thing. Just the task bar would probably be ok.23:19
jedijfChinnoDog: ye of NO faith23:31
ChinnoDogI didn't understand. Now I do.23:32
jedijfChinnoDog: i was driving - couldn't really explain it completely but if you would have looked at file and seen "start on" i was /hoping/ you could of figured it out23:32
jedijfi even through in the #!6 reference23:33
jedijfthrew23:33
jedijfthat rmg51 link would work too23:34
jedijfand is probably the proper sysadminny way to do it23:34
jedijfChinnoDog: also, i said display manager, not window manager - gdm kdm lightdm fudm etc23:35
jedijfcheck the logs23:36
ChinnoDogI believe you23:50

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