ChinnoDog | Anyone here familiar with Postgres? | 00:25 |
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ChinnoDog | Never mind. I answered my own question. | 00:31 |
ChinnoDog | I was trying to figure out the Postgres installers. | 00:31 |
InHisName | ChinnoDog: Nope, been busy while waiting for replies. | 06:22 |
rmg51 | Morning | 09:33 |
jackson | morning rmg51 | 10:41 |
teddy-dbear | Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys and everything else | 12:07 |
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ChinnoDog | morning | 14:23 |
teddy-dbear | o/ | 15:01 |
ChinnoDog | InHisName: Did you fix it now? | 15:15 |
ChinnoDog | Seems like booting to CLI login is always complicated. I don't want X to start because I have a remote X server. Anyone know how the cleanest way to do this on KDE? | 18:23 |
waltman | I think there's some way to change your runlevel during bootup, but I forget how. | 18:28 |
waltman | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpstartHowto # this may help | 18:31 |
ChinnoDog | I could configure another runlevel but modifying runlevel 2 would work just fine since I want all the normal stuff minus X. | 18:31 |
ChinnoDog | Looking in etc/rc2.d I don't see a symlink for X or KDE though | 18:31 |
waltman | I set my default runlevel to 2, but I'm weird. | 18:32 |
ChinnoDog | There is a symlink for S99rc.local that goes to ../init.d/rc.local though. idk what that does | 18:33 |
ChinnoDog | oh. It runs /etc/rc.local which does nothing by default. | 18:34 |
waltman | I think I'm beginning to see how you end up trashing your fstab :) | 18:35 |
ChinnoDog | :-p | 18:37 |
ChinnoDog | I only trash the fstab during boot because the valid mount flags for ext4 and btrfs have changed since I originally created notes on how I want to mount them | 18:38 |
ChinnoDog | I installed Mint KDE and added a mount parameter for ext4 that is apparently no longer valid. | 18:38 |
jedijf | ChinnoDog: kdm.conf | 18:46 |
ChinnoDog | Wouldn't that be called after X is started? | 18:48 |
ChinnoDog | If I understand correctly X will start first and then KDE will be launched | 18:48 |
jedijf | dm | 18:48 |
ChinnoDog | However, I don't want X to start at all. I am going to start KDE from a remote terminal and X will be running there | 18:48 |
jedijf | its the dm that starts the x | 18:49 |
jedijf | g k fu etc | 18:49 |
ChinnoDog | dm = ? | 18:50 |
jedijf | dispolay manager | 18:50 |
jedijf | dungeon master | 18:50 |
jedijf | display | 18:51 |
jedijf | waltman: must use debian - ubu has been runlevel vacant for years | 18:54 |
ChinnoDog | I need to read more on this. ugh.. back to work for now | 18:54 |
jedijf | not 6; do a gui | 18:54 |
waltman | jedijf: 1) yes 2) huh | 18:55 |
jedijf | upstart tee shirt ^^^^ | 18:55 |
jedijf | waltman: no easyy run level control | 18:57 |
jedijf | by default | 18:57 |
waltman | Wait, so if my new linux box at home runs ubuntu, I can't go to the command line first? | 18:58 |
* waltman is old school | 18:58 | |
waltman | also old | 18:58 |
jedijf | easily, in the old standard ways - try it | 18:59 |
* waltman notes that this is an as-yet unpurchased new linux box :) | 18:59 | |
jedijf | waltman: when there were alt install cd's, there was an option for cli only install (w/desktop kernel) | 19:11 |
jedijf | you could always do what i call a server plus install | 19:12 |
ChinnoDog | Server install will have a number of other differences from desktop install | 19:13 |
ChinnoDog | It used to have a different kernel build. idk if that is still true. | 19:13 |
jedijf | correct - thats why best way was cli only | 19:13 |
jedijf | ChinnoDog: re-read: < jedijf> waltman: when there were alt install cd's, there was an option for cli only install (w/desktop kernel) | 19:14 |
ChinnoDog | I used to do this when I first started using Ubuntu because I couldn't / wasn't ready to run Ubuntu on my main PC. | 19:14 |
ChinnoDog | I ran Ubuntu on a headless workstation and remoted into it. Said workstation did not have much memory and since it was headless I did not need X running most of the time. | 19:16 |
jedijf | alternate cli only is now 'minimal' | 19:53 |
jedijf | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD#A32-bit_PC_.28x86.29 | 19:54 |
ChinnoDog | jedijf: So, a window manager manages windows on the screen, nothing else. But, I don't want that. I don't want any graphical UI to load. | 22:42 |
ChinnoDog | I am going to use the remote window manager. | 22:42 |
ChinnoDog | I just want to boot to a command prompt | 22:42 |
ChinnoDog | Or rather, a CLI login prompt. | 22:43 |
ChinnoDog | I only ever intend to login at the terminal when my Linux box is borked. | 22:43 |
ChinnoDog | I did it! | 23:06 |
ChinnoDog | jedijf: You were right. I edited /etc/init/kdm.conf and set it to not start on runlevel 2. | 23:07 |
rmg51 | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/boot-into-console-command-line-instead-of-x-549292/ | 23:12 |
rmg51 | ChinnoDog: see if that helps ^^ | 23:12 |
ChinnoDog | I already made it work. I am good now. :-) Next challenge is starting KDE remotely. | 23:18 |
rmg51 | k | 23:19 |
ChinnoDog | It initializes most of the way and then gets stuck. Not sure if I want the whole thing. Just the task bar would probably be ok. | 23:19 |
jedijf | ChinnoDog: ye of NO faith | 23:31 |
ChinnoDog | I didn't understand. Now I do. | 23:32 |
jedijf | ChinnoDog: i was driving - couldn't really explain it completely but if you would have looked at file and seen "start on" i was /hoping/ you could of figured it out | 23:32 |
jedijf | i even through in the #!6 reference | 23:33 |
jedijf | threw | 23:33 |
jedijf | that rmg51 link would work too | 23:34 |
jedijf | and is probably the proper sysadminny way to do it | 23:34 |
jedijf | ChinnoDog: also, i said display manager, not window manager - gdm kdm lightdm fudm etc | 23:35 |
jedijf | check the logs | 23:36 |
ChinnoDog | I believe you | 23:50 |
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