[00:25] Anyone here familiar with Postgres? [00:31] Never mind. I answered my own question. [00:31] I was trying to figure out the Postgres installers. [06:22] ChinnoDog: Nope, been busy while waiting for replies. [09:33] Morning [10:41] morning rmg51 [12:07] Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys and everything else === ssweeny` is now known as ssweeny [14:23] morning [15:01] o/ [15:15] InHisName: Did you fix it now? [18:23] Seems like booting to CLI login is always complicated. I don't want X to start because I have a remote X server. Anyone know how the cleanest way to do this on KDE? [18:28] I think there's some way to change your runlevel during bootup, but I forget how. [18:31] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpstartHowto # this may help [18:31] I could configure another runlevel but modifying runlevel 2 would work just fine since I want all the normal stuff minus X. [18:31] Looking in etc/rc2.d I don't see a symlink for X or KDE though [18:32] I set my default runlevel to 2, but I'm weird. [18:33] There is a symlink for S99rc.local that goes to ../init.d/rc.local though. idk what that does [18:34] oh. It runs /etc/rc.local which does nothing by default. [18:35] I think I'm beginning to see how you end up trashing your fstab :) [18:37] :-p [18:38] I only trash the fstab during boot because the valid mount flags for ext4 and btrfs have changed since I originally created notes on how I want to mount them [18:38] I installed Mint KDE and added a mount parameter for ext4 that is apparently no longer valid. [18:46] ChinnoDog: kdm.conf [18:48] Wouldn't that be called after X is started? [18:48] If I understand correctly X will start first and then KDE will be launched [18:48] dm [18:48] However, I don't want X to start at all. I am going to start KDE from a remote terminal and X will be running there [18:49] its the dm that starts the x [18:49] g k fu etc [18:50] dm = ? [18:50] dispolay manager [18:50] dungeon master [18:51] display [18:54] waltman: must use debian - ubu has been runlevel vacant for years [18:54] I need to read more on this. ugh.. back to work for now [18:54] not 6; do a gui [18:55] jedijf: 1) yes 2) huh [18:55] upstart tee shirt ^^^^ [18:57] waltman: no easyy run level control [18:57] by default [18:58] Wait, so if my new linux box at home runs ubuntu, I can't go to the command line first? [18:58] * waltman is old school [18:58] also old [18:59] easily, in the old standard ways - try it [18:59] * waltman notes that this is an as-yet unpurchased new linux box :) [19:11] waltman: when there were alt install cd's, there was an option for cli only install (w/desktop kernel) [19:12] you could always do what i call a server plus install [19:13] Server install will have a number of other differences from desktop install [19:13] It used to have a different kernel build. idk if that is still true. [19:13] correct - thats why best way was cli only [19:14] ChinnoDog: re-read: < jedijf> waltman: when there were alt install cd's, there was an option for cli only install (w/desktop kernel) [19:14] I used to do this when I first started using Ubuntu because I couldn't / wasn't ready to run Ubuntu on my main PC. [19:16] I ran Ubuntu on a headless workstation and remoted into it. Said workstation did not have much memory and since it was headless I did not need X running most of the time. [19:53] alternate cli only is now 'minimal' [19:54] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD#A32-bit_PC_.28x86.29 [22:42] jedijf: So, a window manager manages windows on the screen, nothing else. But, I don't want that. I don't want any graphical UI to load. [22:42] I am going to use the remote window manager. [22:42] I just want to boot to a command prompt [22:43] Or rather, a CLI login prompt. [22:43] I only ever intend to login at the terminal when my Linux box is borked. [23:06] I did it! [23:07] jedijf: You were right. I edited /etc/init/kdm.conf and set it to not start on runlevel 2. [23:12] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/boot-into-console-command-line-instead-of-x-549292/ [23:12] ChinnoDog: see if that helps ^^ [23:18] I already made it work. I am good now. :-) Next challenge is starting KDE remotely. [23:19] k [23:19] It initializes most of the way and then gets stuck. Not sure if I want the whole thing. Just the task bar would probably be ok. [23:31] ChinnoDog: ye of NO faith [23:32] I didn't understand. Now I do. [23:32] ChinnoDog: i was driving - couldn't really explain it completely but if you would have looked at file and seen "start on" i was /hoping/ you could of figured it out [23:33] i even through in the #!6 reference [23:33] threw [23:34] that rmg51 link would work too [23:34] and is probably the proper sysadminny way to do it [23:35] ChinnoDog: also, i said display manager, not window manager - gdm kdm lightdm fudm etc [23:36] check the logs [23:50] I believe you