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reisioFrankler: honestly, I think the NSA is just a manifestation of an mplayer process00:01
reisioI'm pretty sure we all live in the mplayer00:01
euxneksto answer my own questions: yes, ubuntu uses iptables still, it's probably easier to just use the CLI to do iptables00:01
reisioeverything uses iptables :)00:02
DYSWthats a bold statement reisio00:02
s1lenceDoes anybody have any ideas as to what the mysterious announcement on ubuntu.com means?00:03
euxneksI bet it's something to do with mobile and desktop interoperability00:03
clue_hmaybe it's to do with ubuntu touch00:03
euxnekss1lence, though this is a discussion that would best be had in ubuntu-offtopic :)00:04
s1lenceThank you euxneks00:04
reisioDYSW: nah00:04
semitoness1lence: make sure to say hi first if you go there00:04
matelotmy desktop is messed up http://i.imgur.com/72XCLka.jpg  how to reset it ?00:06
MoTectry a hammer00:06
MudackMudack here with another problem...i'm about ready to switch back to ubuntu.00:06
MoTecsorry.. wrong channel00:06
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lauratikais there a way to have a different wallpaper on each login account in ubuntu?00:07
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Siberian_Tigermatelot, wow00:07
Siberian_TigerWhat did you do?00:07
reisiolauratika: yup00:07
vader_Anybody know how to change Elinks default image viewer from fbi to fbv? fbi does not work in Screen or fbterm :/00:08
clue_hmatelot, looks kind of abstract00:08
Mudackreisio: I put you in my friends list if that's alright.00:08
lauratikareisio: do you know how?00:08
reisioMudack: :)00:08
reisiolauratika: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/04/wallch-wallpaper-changer-for-gnome-3.html maybe00:09
matelotclue_h:  you see how I have 4 "desktop" thereā€¦pls help00:09
lauratikareisio: but most important will you share this info?00:09
reisiodepends on exactly what you want00:09
Mudackreisio: but unfortunately I have another problem...00:09
reisiothere are a number of ways you could accomplish it00:09
lauratikareisio: to me?00:09
reisiolauratika: yes00:09
MudackI'll brb00:10
lauratikawell, i want to be able to each user has its own wallppaper on the login page, the link you post is about a third application is there a way via terminal perhaps or a GUI?00:10
reisiolauratika: hrmm, you want the wallpaper to be unique to a user? Or to actually change the moment you click a name?00:11
reisiothe former is quite simple00:11
Phoenix1969have I finally reached the ubuntu help channel?00:11
reisioPhoenix1969: yup00:11
MoTecNo.. I'm sorry.. This is the pre-help channel00:11
lauratikabe unique to a user login page00:11
MudackI;m back00:12
semitonesThis is only the limbo level of help00:12
MoTecif your question is deemed actually worth of help you will be fowarded to a secondary channel which will verify your ability to actually receive help.00:12
reisiolauratika: well the login screen handles more than one user00:12
reisiolauratika: how do you want to differentiate?00:12
lauratikaMoTec: LOLMA00:12
Phoenix1969I have the blue windows startscreen where you choose the OS, but the keyboard seems unresponsive & it just counts down from 10 then boots to win800:12
lauratikawith wallpaper00:12
semitonesthere are 7 levels below this one00:12
MoTecsemitones: indeed.. progress has been made!00:13
Mudackreisio: with all the problems i'm having with Musix should I just switch to Ubuntu?00:13
reisiolauratika: so you go to the login screen, choose a user & login, then once logged in you see a user-specific wallpaper? That's what you want?00:13
lauratikaPhoenix1969: you install a dual ubuntu/windows?00:13
Phoenix1969laura, yes00:13
Phoenix1969on same drive00:13
MudackPhoenix1969: What are your Specs?00:13
lauratikano, just on the login screen, each account has their own walpapper00:13
reisioMudack: it's hard to say whether that'd make any difference00:14
Phoenix1969500 gb ssd msi gd658d, core173930k00:14
lauratikaPhoenix1969:ubuntu is your second install00:14
reisioMudack: what trouble are you having now?00:14
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Phoenix1969yes, 2nd00:14
Mudackreisio: Chrome and other installations00:14
reisioMudack: what about them?00:14
Phoenix1969aaah, its the amd 8core00:15
subcooli have a hdd on usb, if i were to use esata plug, would it change the /dev/sd*?00:15
lauratikaPhoenix1969: and is not booting on ubuntu? just windows00:15
lauratikareisio: no, just on the login screen, each account has their own walpapper00:15
reisiosubcool: it very well may00:15
reisiosubcool: you could give it a LABEL or utilize a UUID, though00:16
reisiosubcool: or setup a udev rule to always keep it at /dev/specificName00:16
Phoenix1969right, it has the option at start, but not in bios, in some weird blue windows screen, but keyboard no go00:16
Phoenix1969how to choose ubuntu?00:16
reisiolauratika: that you see when you click on the name?00:16
lauratikareisio: i see the same wallpapper i add to login admin account00:17
MudackReisio: My terminal says that it can't fetch any of the packages i'm requesting and the official websites won't give me a easily running file, and I can't find a system Software Center00:17
lauratikaPhoenix1969: what you mean the option at start but not in bios?00:17
reisiolauratika: do you need to know how to change the wallpaper at all? Or something more complicated?00:17
lauratikaPhoenix1969: do you have the opotion or not to boot into ubuntu?00:17
reisioMudack: tell the channel about the error00:17
MudackPhoenix1969: Do you mean the boot menu?00:18
Phoenix1969it does have the option there indeed, i just am unable to physically choose it00:18
lauratikaresisio: change wallpaper at login for each account, not the wallpaper. but at login. are you following me?00:18
MudackReisio: which channel?00:18
reisiothis one00:18
reisiolauratika: nope00:18
subcoolreisio, well, i base this question off the fact that i have two hdd's on usb in an raid array (raid 000:19
lauratikaPhoenix1969: and keyboard works on wind 8?00:19
Phoenix1969yes00:19
lauratikareisio:is there a way to have a different wallpaper on each login account in ubuntu00:19
reisiosubcool: what for00:19
OerHekslauratika, at login, there is not a way to determin what account is on, you are at the point there is not a account active, so how do you want ubuntu to choose?00:19
reisiolauratika: yes00:19
Mudackreisio: How do I do that? *pounds fist to chest* I want to serve my community!00:19
subcoolreisio, raid 0 -- now id like to switch one of them to a esata cable00:19
reisioMudack: I'm just saying don't put my nick before the message :p more people will be likely to read it00:20
MudackOkay00:20
reisiosubcool: yeah that could be complicated :)00:20
reisiosubcool: you probably don't need or want that raid, though, IMO00:20
subcoolyeah, i need them in a raid 0 right now.00:20
subcoolthey create a larger drive i need.00:20
zykotick9!cookie | reisio00:20
ubottureisio: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!00:20
lauratikaOerHeks: what you talking about?, simple lighdm can have different wallppapers on the login page, and if you change up and down on different accounts login fields wallpaper can change, how i do that?00:20
MudackHey guys, my system software centre seems to be non-existent, my terminal won't fetch packages, and official program websites give too many options, what do I do?00:21
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reisiosubcool: lvm is what you'd want for "a larger drive"00:22
reisioor unionfs or something like that00:22
reisioraid is about high availability00:22
reisioand for most people: lost files :p00:22
subcoolreisio, i dont like lvm very much right now.00:22
Phoenix1969it should work with the up & down arrow keys, and enter to execute...no?00:22
OerHekslauratika, sure, lightdm can have different wallpapers, choose one. but not connected to an account, because an account is not active, so how do you expect ubuntu to know what account is active?00:22
lauratikaPhoenix1969: is this a usb keyboard?00:22
* OerHeks facepalms00:22
reisiosubcool: nobody does :p but it does the job00:22
subcoollol00:22
Phoenix1969usb00:22
reisiolauratika: either lightdm does that or it doesn't, read the lightdm docs00:22
s1lenceMudack, what kind of error message are you getting from apt-get?00:22
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reisiolauratika: if it doesn't do that, it might be simpler to find another DM that does00:23
Mudackuriah@localhost:~$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install skype00:23
MudackGet: 1 http://packages.musix.es lenny Release.gpg [490B]00:23
MudackIgn http://packages.musix.es lenny/main Translation-en_GB00:23
MudackGet: 2 http://packages.musix.es lenny/updates Release.gpg [490B]00:23
MudackIgn http://packages.musix.es lenny/updates/main Translation-en_GB00:23
FloodBot1Mudack: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:23
MudackGet: 3 http://packages.musix.es lenny Release [85.6kB]00:23
MudackGet: 4 http://packages.musix.es lenny/updates Release [3,287B]00:23
MudackIgn http://packages.musix.es lenny Release00:23
Jordan_Usubcool: The device name shouldn't matter to Ubuntu's ability to assemble the array, and if you've use static device names in any configuration files you already have an unreliable configuration.00:23
lauratikaOerHeks: it used to do it, i just dont remember how i did it last time, it has to deal with ubuntu tewak perhaps?00:24
zykotick9Mudack: neither lenny nor musix is ubuntu... just sayin'00:24
MudackGahhh!00:24
s1lencelol00:24
subcooljordan, reisio im just curious..00:24
lauratikaPhoenix1969:did you turn on legacy USB on the bios?00:24
Mudackbtw, didn't mean to flood.....FloodBot was nice to me though.....00:24
s1lenceMudack, I don't really know where to go from here sorry00:25
Phoenix1969no?00:25
lauratikaPhoenix1969: try that up00:26
reisiosubcool: about?00:26
Mudacksilence: it's fine, the .iso for Ubuntu 13.whatever is loaded and in my downloads, see y'all in a bit!00:26
subcoolreisio, if it was possible without a lot of fuss.00:26
Phoenix1969k, brb00:26
reisiosubcool: if what was?00:26
subcoolits working fine now- just thought maybe i could tweak it..00:26
quli_the taskbar in the top and the right disappear all the time, how do I solve this without restarting???00:26
subcoolchanging one of them to esata.00:26
reisiosubcool: it is if you know how your raid hardware/software is setup/configured00:27
lauratika: what you mean disappear00:27
Jordan_Usubcool: Does this array contain your root filesystem?00:27
Phoenix1969worked like a charm instantly, thank you laura00:27
subcoolits bad enough you have to have esata plugged in from the boot.00:27
subcooljordan, no00:27
subcoolim using it has a backup while i test something00:27
subcoolits very temporary00:27
lauratikaPhoenix1969: no prob, it's odd because i assume is a new pc right?00:27
quli_lauratika: you know the bar in the top that says ubuntu desktop00:27
quli_it just disappears00:27
Jordan_Usubcool: Then I don't expect you'll have any problems switching to esata.00:27
quli_well actually not only that00:27
lauratikaquili: what ubuntu version you are using?00:28
quli_the top bar in any program disappears00:28
aaron_I found out more about my broadcom problem with my install. It works in kernel 3.2 but not with 3.8, anyone have any clues as to how I can make wireless work with 3.8?00:28
quli_the part that says file, etc00:28
semitonesWhat command in bash tells you file size?00:28
zykotick9quli_: restart unity, or better yet, restart light dm.  from a virtual console "sudo service lightdm restart" then log in again [i have no idea how to restart unity].00:28
Jordan_Usemitones: du -h /path/to/file00:28
zykotick9semitones: "ls -l" or "ls -sh"00:29
quli_zykotick9: but I have a lot of programs opened00:29
semitonesthanks Jordan_U00:29
quli_zykotick9: will it affect them?00:29
Jordan_Usemitones: You're welcome.00:29
semitoneszykotick9: I tried ls -l but didn't see sizes. I'll try -sh too00:29
zykotick9quli_: ya - you need to restart unity - i don't know how, good luck!00:29
lauratikaquil: you also can try unity --reset00:29
quli_lauratika: can I do that with all the programs opened?00:30
Mudackreisio: *facepalm* I found the Xarchive application. I'm glad I did one last sweep!!!00:30
lauratikaquil: this will restart unity.00:30
reisioMudack: and what do you plan on doing with that? :p00:30
reisioMudack: installing applications from tarballs on distros like Ubuntu is usually doing it wrong00:30
Mudackreisio: at least now I get my programs xD00:31
quli_lauratika: I don't know what is unity, will it affect opened programs?00:31
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irssi-mikemy ctrl alt f keys aren't bringing me to tty00:32
dr_willis!unity00:32
ubottuUnity is the default UI since Ubuntu 11.04.  Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. For a GNOME 2-like experience, see !notunity00:32
reisioif you say so00:32
irssi-mikemeh i'm gonna reboot, maybe it's a glitch.00:33
wNsubcool: whats wrong with lvM?00:33
reisiohe prefers the much more complicated and inappropriate raid :p00:34
wN<3 lvm00:34
w30Well, Guys an Gals; I have Unity Tweak Tool, Ubuntu Tweak, and  Tweak Tool installed and I still can't find a way to keep Unity from grabbing the menu bar and sticking it in the top panel. Has any one got any advice? maybe an edit to dconfig?00:34
cuddylierAnyone know a tutorial on how to use a gre tunnel from cnservers and offer it as e.g. remote protection that e.g. javapipe offers?00:34
Phoenix1969so, after choosing ubuntu at the startscreen, it came up & said completing installation.... screen went blank...computer still on... 5 mins now...... that normal?00:35
dr_willisw30:  disable the global menu feature00:35
irssi-mikeyup, it was a glitch.00:35
w30dr_willis, how? in what? where?00:35
dr_willisw30:  askubuntu.com or webupd8  blog site has guides00:35
tapperw30: windows snapping in unity tweat00:36
tapper*tweak00:36
dr_willisglobal menu  moves the menu from the app window into the top panel. its rather easy to disable i revall00:37
semitonesWhat could cause a file to show up in ls, but not be stat'ed by cp, and not readable by du?00:37
quli_Starting gtk-window-decorator compiz (decor) - Warn: No default decoration found, placement will not be correct compiz (decor) - Warn: No default decoration found, placement will not be correct00:37
quli_seems to be working but takes it's long time00:37
tapperw30: sorry misread your post00:37
devmedoohelp me please00:38
semitonesls -sh says it's 12K, but du doesn't see it, cp can't copy it, what is going on with that file?00:38
devmedooi have a problem00:38
quli_this unity --reset, do I need to stop it? cause it doesn't give me the prompt back00:38
devmedooinstalling ybyntu00:38
devmedoohelp me plzz?00:39
Phoenix1969screen still blank after it said "Finishing installation"....  how long typically on a fast system?00:39
devmedooi have a problem installing ubuntu00:39
quli_ybyntu?00:39
dr_willisquli_:  should have used a  & at the end..  ttr a   ctrl-z  then "bg"  in the twrminal00:39
devmedoosorry wrong typed00:39
quli_ubunty00:39
bazhangdevmedoo, ask an actual question00:39
devmedoook , sorry00:39
quli_dr_willis: so how do I stop it now?00:40
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devmedoowhen i choose ubuntu inside windws and click continue the dvd ejected & windows starts00:40
dr_willisagain...    ctrl-z      then  "bg"    command00:40
bazhangdevmedoo, wubi?00:41
devmedoono , dvd00:41
bazhang!wubi | devmedoo00:42
ubottudevmedoo: Wubi allows you to install or uninstall Ubuntu 12.04 LTS from within Windows ( version 7 or earlier ) in a simple and safe way. Wubi is INCOMPATIBLE with UEFI, Windows 8 Certified computers, and Windows RAID arrays. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for more information. File wubi bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug00:42
dr_willisquli_:  then use the exit   command to close the terminal   NOT the clise button00:42
devmedooubottu , i want ubuntu 13.04 so wubi is no longer supported00:42
Kitt3ndevmedoo, either use a virtual machine or install it00:43
devmedoo??00:43
dr_willisubuntu inside  windows is wubi... som somthi g is confused here00:43
Kitt3ndevmedoo, if you just want to test Ubuntu, download Virtualbox (it's free) and install Ubuntu inside of it.00:43
dr_willisunless you ment   alongside..  not inside00:44
devmedoono , iwant to use some wifi tools so virtual box i can't use it + ( i have laptop )00:44
bazhangdevmedoo, is this ubuntu or backtrack00:44
Kitt3n^00:44
devmedooubuntu00:44
devmedoo13.04 from official site00:45
bazhangdevmedoo, inside windows is WUBI00:45
dr_willisdevmedoo: so tell us whats it doing exactly...00:45
Kitt3n^00:45
bazhangKitt3n, please stop that00:45
vader_Anybody know how to change Elinks default image viewer from fbi to fbv? fbi does not work in Screen or fbterm :/00:46
arunneed help to mount drives00:46
devmedoommm , when i click install ubuntu from dvd , and choose the wifi , the where " replace windows 7 " " ubuntu inside windows " and the third iforget it00:46
MudackTea is essential, tea is the liquid of the gods, tea is everything, tea is awesome, I love tea00:46
bazhang!ot | Mudack00:47
ubottuMudack: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!00:47
lauratika!ot00:47
dr_willisdevmedoo:  its "alongside"  not "inside"00:47
Mudacksorry wrong channel00:47
JoshMcCulloughhey whats up00:47
devmedoomay be....00:47
Kitt3nMudack, it hpapens. :)00:47
arunsomebody help me00:47
JoshMcCulloughqq - say i did apt-get install ffmpeg, where would the install location be ?00:47
dr_willisdevmedoo:  so does it actually install!00:47
dr_willis?00:48
bazhangarun, ask a question then00:48
Kitt3n!ask | arun00:48
ubottuarun: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience00:48
devmedoonooo , it reboot the laptop and eject dvd00:48
devmedoowhitout install00:48
dr_willisJoshMcCullough:  use     'wich ffmpeg'00:48
JoshMcCulloughty00:48
arunhelp me to mount hard drives00:48
dr_williswhich ffmpeg00:48
Kitt3ndevmedoo, how old is the laptop?00:48
bazhang!fstab | arun00:48
JoshMcCulloughgood thing to know, thanks!00:48
ubottuarun: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions00:48
devmedoohp pavilion g6-1151ex core i5 4gb 500gb00:49
dr_willisdevmedoo:  so it reboots as soon as you select  install alongside windows?00:49
devmedooyeb00:49
devmedooand click continue00:49
w30dr_willis, unsettings does the job, thank you very much  Kind Sir00:49
aruni am new to this, can u tell me detailed info00:49
lauratika!help | lauratika00:49
ubottulauratika, please see my private message00:49
bazhangarun, read the links above00:50
bazhanglauratika, /msg ubottu00:50
lauratikagparted | lauratika00:50
dr_willisw30: you dont need any of those tweak tooks.. its setable on a per app basis if you want to use the shell00:50
w30gotta log out to apply settings.....00:50
bazhanglauratika, please dont do that00:50
lauratika!gparted | lauratika00:50
ubottulauratika, please see my private message00:50
devmedoomr willis?00:50
bazhang!msgthebot | lauratika00:51
ubottulauratika: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".00:51
dr_willisdevmedoo: if the installer is crashing. id redownload and verify the iso and remake rhe boot usb00:51
matelot12.04 w/ Dual monitor (TwinView) ā€” is it possible to have monitors display 2 workspaces ?00:51
devmedooi made the boot from dvd00:51
bazhang!md5 | devmedoo00:52
ubottudevmedoo: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows00:52
dr_willismatelot:  in unity  nit really00:52
Kitt3ndevmedoo, verify that the iso isn't corrupt, and burn it to another DVD00:52
lauratikabazhang: just checking the ! thingy...00:52
dr_willisnot really00:52
bazhanglauratika, check it in /msg00:52
devmedooiso to dvd is same bytes so may be the download00:52
semitonesI have a question for ubuntu's crack team of help experts: What could cause ls to stat a file, but stat cannot stat it?00:53
Kitt3ndevmedoo, it's always a good idea to burn stuff to DVDs slowly too, if you're using a program that you can choose the burning speed with.00:53
devmedooubuntu 64-bit 13.04 = "(823,132,160 bytes)"00:53
devmedooi made it x6!00:54
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Kitt3n!md5 | devmedoo00:54
ubottudevmedoo: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows00:54
clue_hsemitones, when you have no permissions at all lol00:55
clue_hin the file00:55
devmedookitt3n , i'll see00:55
semitonesclue_h: hmm, but it has rw - - permissions00:55
dr_willissemitones: id fsck the filesystem  just to verify the fs is sane00:56
semitonesd'oh. ok. how do you do that on restart again.00:57
devmedoomd5=8D72E2DB7E72E13813731EAB37A14D2600:57
Kitt3ndevmedoo, the ISO is correct, the DVD is faulty00:58
devmedoomd5=8D72E2DB7E72E13813731EAB37A14D26 in iso , dvd is multi file ( extracted00:58
devmedoowhy?00:58
Kitt3ndevmedoo, what program did you use to burn the DVD?00:58
devmedooashmpoo studio00:58
devmedooashampoo00:59
Kitt3ndevmedoo, the easiest solution would be to use a USB stick instead of DVDs, but try the burner included in Windows to burn the iso to a new DVD01:00
devmedookitt3n?01:02
devmedoohere?01:02
apleersdfI have an sd card I'm trying to reformat, it wont allow me to delete any files on it, saying its read only, I will not allow me to unmount disk, therefore unable to format it or do anything else01:02
apleersdfits pretty much locked up01:02
apleersdfI even logged in as root, and still can not get it to unmount or anything01:02
Kitt3ndevmedoo, yes, yes, I am here01:02
apleersdfany ideas on what to do?01:02
dr_willisapleersdf:  use  dd to zero it out  then repartion it01:03
apleersdfwhats the command?01:03
dr_willisive seed sd cards  fail and go  read only01:03
devmedookitt3n01:04
devmedoohere?01:04
Kitt3napleersdf, there might be a locking mechanism on the SD card itself too01:04
Kitt3ndevmedoo, YES, I am here! What is it?01:04
dr_willisor use  fdisk or gparted to repartion it01:04
apleersdfKitt3n: ? like what?01:04
apleersdfI've used this card before, but now I'm just trying to reformat it01:04
Kitt3napleersdf, a little plastic piece that you can move up and down or something.01:05
apleersdfI already checked that Kitt3n, it was the first thing I checked, and checked it a few time after that making sure that isn't the problem01:05
dr_willisused it befor does not prove its not got hw issues now..    could be a switch on it also01:05
dr_willisseen those go bad01:05
dr_willisplug it in.. watch dmesg output to tell what sd#  the device is.. then try formating it via the cli01:07
devmedookitt3n?01:07
devmedoohere?01:07
Kitt3ndevmedoo, what is it? -_-01:07
apleersdfThe card is not seen in gparted01:07
devmedooi lost connection since i said ashampoo burning studio01:08
apleersdfit is seened in disk ulity, but now when I plug in the card, it isn't bringing up the folder like normal01:08
Kitt3ndevmedoo, right, well, the easiest solution is to use a USB stick instead of DVDs, but you could try burn a new DVD with Windows' built-in image burner01:08
dr_willisif the filesystem is currupted that would make sense01:08
dr_willisif gparted does not see the devix01:08
dr_willisdevice.. thats very weird01:09
apleersdfin disk ulity, its not  mounting when plugged in the system anymore (which is odd) cause it would, when I try to mount it in disk ulity, it sais Deamon is inhibited01:09
apleersdfit wont let me do anything, gparted doesn't see it01:09
devmedoohow do you know that the dvd is corrupt?01:09
dr_willisfallback to the cli to see.what the system is seeing.. not the gui tools01:09
Kitt3ndevmedoo, personal experience, DVDs can easily break ...01:10
Kitt3ndevmedoo, virtually, that is.01:10
devmedoommm , ok , is there thing like virtual dvd or something?01:10
dr_willisapleersdf:  if the fs is currupted.. it will refuse to mount it01:10
devmedoobecause my usb had win 8 recovery :) :)01:11
dr_willisapleersdf:  try mounting it by hand. look for error mesages when mounting01:11
louisdkhi01:12
apleersdfcan't find it01:12
apleersdfit says01:12
dr_willishow.are you looking for it!01:12
dr_willis?01:12
apleersdfmount /dev/sde101:12
apleersdf"can't find /dev/sde1" when I "mount /dev/sde1"01:13
devmedoocan i install ubuntu 13.04 with deamon tools??01:13
dr_willisthats an incomplete mount command. ubless you got a fstab entry for it01:13
dr_willis!mount01:13
ubottumount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount01:13
louisdkIf I've Ubuntu 10.04 desktop installed on a machine which is now EOL on the desktop side what'll happen? I assume that I'll not get updates for the desktop packages, but will something be removed from the repo?01:14
dr_willisdevmedoo:  no01:14
devmedoois any alternative to usb and burn dvd?01:14
dr_willisapleersdf:   use    sudo blkid   to see what  devices are.seen01:14
dr_willis!install01:14
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate01:14
Kitt3nlouisdk, you need to update to a newer version of Ubuntu to get support at all01:15
apleersdfseems gparted decided to see the device and allow it to format01:15
dr_willis!netinstall01:15
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate01:15
apleersdfthanks for the help01:15
devmedoois any alternative to usb and burn dvd?01:15
devmedoois any alternative to usb and burn dvd?01:15
vnwilman!pxe01:16
devmedoois any alternative to usb and burn dvd?01:16
Kitt3n!netinstall | devmedoo01:16
ubottudevmedoo: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate01:16
arunsomebody help me to mount hard drives01:17
louisdkkitt3n: Some core packages will still be upgraded I guess? The server edition uses same repos?01:17
Kitt3nlouisdk, EOL means EOL, NO updates.01:17
dr_willisread the urls the bot  gave devmedoo ?01:17
arunsomebody help me to mount drives01:17
dr_willis!mount | arun01:17
ubottuarun: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount01:17
devmedoook dr_willis01:17
dr_willisdevmedoo:  you did verify the  md5 sum of the iso file? and the burnt dvd?01:19
aruni can access all of my hard drives, do i need mount anything?01:19
Kitt3narun, if you can access all your hard drives, you don't need to mount anything?01:20
dr_willisthey are mounted.. if you canaccess thrm01:20
devmedoothe burnt dvd is muli-files ( extracted )01:20
dr_willisdevmedoo:  thats a meaningless statement to me...01:20
aruncan u help me on permissions of my hard drive to another user01:20
dr_willista md5sum is a checksum  you compare to a known good value.. to Prove the data is correct01:21
dr_willisarun and what fs is the hard drive using?01:21
theshark0001I'm using optware packages.  I would like to setup a prv web gui (password protected) for family to upload photographs or even video.  What programs do you recommend?01:21
Kitt3ndevmedoo, click on the iso file and use the 'Windows Disc Image Burner' and burn the ISO to a /NEW/ DVD and try again01:21
aruni guess ntfs01:21
arunhow to check that01:21
dr_willisarun look and verify that....  dont guess.. then if it IS ntfs... check the ntfs-3g docs on making a fstab entry for the device with the  right options..  or just try installing and running the ntfs-config tool ;)01:22
devmedoosorry  ( i'm arabian ) , the dvd have files and folders not an iso01:22
dr_willis!ntfs-3g01:22
ubottuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions01:22
dr_willisdevmedoo:  omce you burn the ISO to the dvd.. you would see files on the dvd.. not a single huge iso file.01:23
devmedooya , so i can't see the md501:23
arunhow to verify that01:23
Psil0cybinHey guys can someone help me I recently updated the kernal to 3.2.0-49-generic-pae and im having problems, Now after the update I sometimes cannot boot into the GUI and instead am given a text console, and its only solved with a restart01:23
dr_willisdevmedoo:  you use a TOOL to calculate the md5sum.. its Not a file on the dvd/iso you look at..01:23
dr_willis!md5 | devmedoo01:24
Psil0cybinhow can I fix this because it only started happening with the new update...and prior to the update it worked perfectly fine01:24
ubottudevmedoo: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows01:24
devmedooi use checksum01:24
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arunhow to verify the file system01:24
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dr_willisarun see what sudo parted -l   says about the device01:24
dr_willisor 'sudo blkid'01:24
devmedooi use checksum calculator01:25
devmedooi use checksum calculator01:25
dr_willisso did the sum match the one at the downloads page?01:25
w30dr_willis, "sudo apt-get remove indicator-appmenu" get the menus back on the application's own window01:26
DeeceDoes anyone know how to get rsyslog to show facilities/levels by name instead of number?01:26
devmedoothe sum ? , i can't make a group files with same mdf01:26
devmedoomd5^01:26
* junktext is eating chicken tikka masala01:26
DeeceI've written a format string for ActionFileDefaultTemplate, but i can only find %syslogpriority% %syslogfacility% as template options01:27
devmedoo...............01:27
devmedoo.............01:27
FloodBot1devmedoo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:27
w30dr_willis, It's wonderful  to have a resource like askubuntu.com thanks for the tip01:27
devmedookitt3n or dr_willis ??01:28
dr_willisdevmedoo:  did you even read the url on md5suming ?01:29
dr_willisw30:  you can disable the global menu on a per app basis.. if you wanted to01:29
devmedooya , i downloaded checksum calculator01:30
devmedoo...w8ing01:30
bazhang!helpme | devmedoo01:31
ubottudevmedoo: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude01:31
devmedoook ....01:31
dr_willisdevmedoo:  and did the sum match the sum given in the md5sum listing file from the ubuntu download web site?01:32
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bazhang!hashes | devmedoo01:32
ubottudevmedoo: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of all downloadable Ubuntu releases01:32
dr_willisand did the sum of the DVD disk match the sum of the ISO file ??01:32
dr_willisi alwyas use torrents.  so i rarely get a bad download.01:32
netlarHi all01:33
Pandeenetlar: hello01:33
devmedooi don't know how to make 2 file to 1 md5 !!!01:33
netlarPandee: Were you the one helping me yesterday?01:34
dr_willisdevmedoo:  i have no idea what you mean by that...01:34
dr_willisyou calcullate the sum on file 1.. look at it.. then compare it to the sum listed in the file..01:34
Pandeenetlar: no i don't believe so01:34
devmedooi mean that the program give my one md5 for the file , so each file in dvd have md501:35
dr_willisI dont use that app.. so no idea of its features.01:35
dr_willisyou want to sum the whatever.iso file.. dont mount it.01:35
bazhangdevmedoo, you dont extract the iso.01:35
netlarShould of remembered his handle01:36
bazhangdevmedoo, you burn the iso to a usb stick or dvd, not extract01:36
dr_williswindows apps treating .iso files as an archive... always lovely.. when its totally wrong.01:36
Random833i tihnk with vista and later you can right click to burn properly01:37
dr_willisi just have some windows app that puts  'md5sum' on the context meni i recall.01:37
dr_willisi always ise infrarecorder to burn the isos   but not used that in ages.01:38
devmedoo_i use checksum01:38
devmedoo_the iso is corrrect md501:38
dr_willismany of the isu burning apps can also calculate the md5sum01:38
devmedoo_the dvd and iso is same bytes01:38
dr_willissame bytes does NOT mean its the same sum.01:38
bazhangdevmedoo_, thats not the problem. the problem is you extracted the files from the iso01:38
devmedoo_bazhang : i didn't , i made dvd by iso with ashampoo burning studio01:39
bazhangdevmedoo_, what software did you use to burn to dvd01:39
dr_willisreburn using some nice simple tool like infrarecorder, or imgburn , or some other known al.01:39
dr_willisapp.01:39
dr_willis!burn01:40
devmedoo_infrarecorder  mmmmm , i'll try01:40
ubottuCD/DVD burning software: k3b (KDE), brasero (GNOME), gnomebaker, xcdroast, wodim (command-line) | To burn ISO files, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto01:40
bazhangdevmedoo_, you md5 the iso BEFORE you burn to dvd01:40
devmedoo_the md5 = 8D72E2DB7E72E13813731EAB37A14D2601:40
bazhangdevmedoo_, not the extracted files , but the iso01:40
vader_ /disconnect01:41
devmedoo_i didn't understand you01:42
dr_willisi think infrarecorder has a 'md5sum' item when you select an iso.. you can caompare to the one given in the file  at the url mentioned above01:43
devmedoo_dr_willis i already checked and it's correct!!!01:44
devmedoo_..................................01:45
bazhangdevmedoo_, stop that01:45
dr_willisdevmedoo_:   then use infrarecorder to burn it to dvd at the slowest speed you can and have it verify the burn01:45
devmedoo_ok01:46
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devmedoo_http://sourceforge.net/projects/infrarecorder/?01:47
devmedoo_??01:47
devmedoo_http://sourceforge.net/projects/infrarecorder/01:47
devmedoo_is there any prog make virtual dvd?01:49
YcareneAnybody use ushare?01:49
dr_williswhy do you even think you need a virtual dvd devmedoo_ ?01:49
dr_willisushare worked well for me the little i used it Ycarene01:50
subcoolwhats the attribute to view ls -l  with the files in gigs or megs01:53
devmedoo_dr_willis : it's 4 am here in egypt :) , how can i buy a blank dvd hhhhhh ^_^01:53
DWSRsubcool: -h01:53
subcoolthanks01:53
dr_willisdevmedoo_:  not my problem..  i always use usb flash drives.01:54
DWSRanyone know how to use sshfs to mount a folder so that it is writable by all users on the system, but the permissions are translated to a single user on the remote side?01:54
devmedoo_dr_willis : i didn't say that is your problem ....01:54
taekHi folks, I seem to have an issue that, when my system boots up, eth0 doesn't connect until a user is logged in, is there away to make it connect at boot?01:56
taekDistro 12.0401:56
varunendradevmedoo_, what is it that you want.01:56
devmedoo_just testing01:56
dr_willistaek:  eth0 is a wired or wireless connection?01:57
taekWired.01:57
dr_willisthats.. very weird taek ..01:57
taekTell me about it, I have OwnCloud running and I can't connect until after a user is logged in01:57
dr_willis_hi , test test.... , i'm not mr_willis01:57
dr_willistaek:  are you using encrypted homes? or encrypted /01:57
taekBtw, this system was distro-upgraded from 10.4.401:58
taekI don't believe so.01:58
taekI don't recall setting it up in that manner initially.01:58
dr_willistaek:  as a dirty 'trick' you could try restarting the networking, or using  'ifup eth0' in /etc/rc.local01:58
dr_willisits possible networking is trying to come up and failing for some reason, then the user login some how retriggers it to try again01:59
dr_willisim not sure what logs would even be logging that.01:59
taekwell I just added the ifup eth002:00
taekabouve Exit 002:00
jribtaek: if you log in at virtual console, does your network become "fixed"?  Also, I would urge you to actually check up on the encryption.  Often times in this channel, "believing" and "recalling" lead troubleshooters down the wrong path ;)02:00
dr_willis_taek: your problem is so miss , get a support from one other than me....02:00
dr_willismight want to do a ifdown eth0   ; sleep 20 ;  ifup eth0   or similer.02:00
taekVirtual Console?02:00
taekI dunno, I use Desktop.02:00
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dr_willisconsole = alt-ctrl-f1 through f602:01
jribtaek: yes, this is for troubleshooting purposes.  I'm asking you to try that.02:01
DWSR(comparatively speaking)02:01
DWSRanyone know how to use sshfs to mount a folder so that it is writable by all users on the system, but the permissions are translated to a single user on the remote side?02:01
dr_willis_jrib: don't make yourself like a pro ....02:02
dr_willisDWSR:  im thinking that would be a neat trick. :) and a possible security nightmare...     since sshfs uses the fuse system.. the fusermount command may have options to allow that.02:02
taekhmm should I logout of unity?02:02
jribtaek: you should place your system in its "broken" state.  Whatever that means (probably reboot).  And then log in through a virtual console.02:03
jribdr_willis: :x02:03
taekhmm okay02:03
taeki'll be back then02:03
jribtaek: if your system remains "broken" after log in at virtual console, check if eth0 is up02:04
taekwill do02:04
dr_willisif its just opencloud failing to startup.. having an encvrypted home could be   a potential issue..02:04
taekbrb02:04
jribtaek: I'm using "broken" to mean "can't connect to opencloud"02:04
dr_willis_to hell02:04
dr_williswow.. trolls using the  freenode web chat to spam us.. how lovely.02:04
azazel91is there a irc that alerts member logins02:04
jribdr_willis_: right, if I had to bet I would bet on your initial guess about encrypted homes02:04
dr_willis_hhhhh , i like joking hhhh02:05
mr_willisya willis my too02:05
dr_willisguess you could set up opencloud to share some unencrypted filesystem as a test also. ;) that way you can verifyu it is working.02:06
cuddylierAnyone know how to see the redirects I have on the program 'redir'?02:07
^jirbok , i'll do it tommorw02:07
taekscreens to be working with the rc.local02:08
taekseems*02:08
taekusing ptty1 right now02:09
mr_willisok good02:09
dr_willisits possible openmcloud is trying to start befor networking is started. or its waiting for networking to start..02:09
taekOwncloud*02:09
taekOwncloud runs in apache2.02:10
dr_willisim lazy and just use dropbox and box.net and ubuntu one ;)02:10
mr_willisok good you know02:10
mr_willis_say welcome to ddos02:10
^jirbsay welcome to ddos02:10
mr_willissay welcome to ddos02:10
dr_willis_say welcome to ddos02:10
dr_willislame trolls are lame.02:10
IdleOnePlease get you clones out02:11
bazhangthere's only ONE Dr.02:11
taekI have a VPS - so I am acoustom to some of the workings. But in a server enviornment eth0 just works without login.02:11
C130RG/server irc.byroe.net02:11
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wilee-nileeThat's the truth02:11
dr_willis'one ban to ban them alll!'  ;P02:11
HACKEDNO IDLEONE02:12
mr_willis_NO IDLEONE02:12
^jirbNO IDLEONE02:12
dr_willis_NO IDLEONE02:12
taekSweet, Thanks for the quick fix mr_willis02:12
dr_willisthat seems weird that the vps is acting that way.02:12
taekNow I can turn this weak/bad boy headless02:12
dr_willis_hhhh , no thanks for hacks02:12
taekThis isn't a VPS, this is a full blown desktop02:12
dr_willisor is this not a VPS?02:12
taekI am just stating, I have a VPS without issues02:12
dr_willisthatw even weirder then02:13
dr_willis_it's a piece of shit02:13
taekExcept..02:13
taekVPS can't update anylonger.02:13
taekBut that will be fixed.02:13
^jirbreally02:13
taekDistro isn't supported any longer, so an upgrade will be in order for sat or sun.02:13
savagejenWhen I run dmesg, it's filled with errors about unknown keycode e03e. They seem to be happening multiple times per second. Not sure what the best course of action is. One blog post I read said I should map the keycode to null.02:13
taekYeah, Ubuntu 10.0.4.4 LTS has been phased out.02:14
dr_willissavagejen:  or edit  /etc/sysconf.cfg (i think) to not be as verbose in its logging. :)02:14
taekOr figure out what the key is that is causing it, and remap it02:14
savagejendr_willis, I'm  less concerned about the logging and more concerned about the cause :)02:14
dr_willisive had dmesg get flooded by  broken hardware befor. (a web cam in my case)02:15
dr_willisnot seen a keyvode flood..02:15
savagejenI don't think it's a key, but I am running on a touch screen laptop, and I have to wonder if it's related to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/109928902:15
ubottuUbuntu bug 1099289 in unity (Ubuntu) "Touch screen stops respoding to clicking after running for a while" [Medium,Confirmed]02:15
dr_willisI bet its that pesky 'anykey' that no one can ever find!02:15
taekWell, it seems to me that either the key got mapped to Null, the keyboard selected setting is incorrect, or the keyboard is just broken.02:16
savagejenubottu, oh, is the problem confirmed to be my touch screen already?02:16
savagejenKeyboard appears to fully function. This is a brand new Lenovo Yoga.02:16
taekAny other input device besides screen and keyboard?02:17
* dr_willis read that as a 'Yoda' and envisioned a Funny green laptop02:17
savagejenI am using a usb wifi nic02:17
Hacked2Here Is The Checkout Baby!!02:17
savagejenI disabled the onboard nic in the bios02:17
savagejenand there's a touch pad mouse02:17
taekIs the trouch screen doing anything it shouldn't?02:17
savagejentaek there's the known bug 109928902:18
ubottubug 1099289 in unity (Ubuntu) "Touch screen stops respoding to clicking after running for a while" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109928902:18
dr_willisare you even using the touchscreen?02:18
savagejenI was!02:18
cuddylierAnyone know how to list the redirects I have made using the program 'redir'?02:18
savagejenbut it's flaky02:18
dr_willis;)  you touched it in  a bad way and it got mad.02:18
taekI wasn't asking about the bug, I was asking about your usage of the touch screen.02:18
savagejenso if I transition the laptop into a tablet to read kindle books, I noticed sometimes the touch screen doesn't respond when I want to turn the page02:18
dr_williscuddylier:  what do you mean by 'redirects'  ?02:19
savagejenso it's annoying that Ii have to turn it over to press the mouse instead02:19
taekThen maybe you have prior said mentionted bug.02:19
savagejenyes, I have experienced that bug02:19
cuddylierdr_willis It's a program which means you can redirect traffic from an IP to another IP on another server box02:19
savagejenbut I am unsure it's related to the message in dmesg02:19
cuddylierapt-get install redir02:19
boethiahhello there. is there a developers channle?02:20
cuddylierBut I can't find much documentation on it, apart from obviously typing 'redir' in SSH which doesn't help much02:20
dr_williscuddylier:  sounds like a ssh tunnle. ;) but i rarely need such things...   at leat not lately02:20
cuddylierYeah, it's a tunneling thing02:20
taekDoes the touch screen work properly in "normal laptop" setup vrs "tablet" setup ?02:20
dr_willisredir --help  ? ;)02:20
savagejentaek, most of the time02:20
dr_willisman redir  ?02:20
taekI am wondering if there's an issue with ubuntu not reading the switch state of the screen02:21
savagejentaek, there's currently no recognition by the laptop of what position the screen is in, which is something I hope to be able to find a way to configure at some point02:21
dr_willisim so used to reading books on my kindle paperwhite.. reading them on a full laptop  would seem  weird.02:21
savagejener, Ubuntu doesn't seem to read the accelerometer I think02:21
cuddylierdr_willis: http://pastebin.com/aXqkjer202:21
taekThat might be where you're getting an the errors from?.02:21
savagejenoh, interesting02:22
taekthe laptop might be sending it as a keypress or some such.02:22
taekI don't know personally, but just throwing  thoughts out.02:22
savagejenI guess, with the ubuntu tablet coming out, I was just hoping ubuntu would have full support of the touch screen interfaces in all of these fancy new ultrabooks02:23
savagejenmaybe with a bit of configuration02:23
taekI figured they would of solved that issue with the invention of Unity.02:23
taekBut different hardwares do things differently02:23
savagejenyeah02:23
wilee-nileetaek, Since you just guessing what about gobl;ins.02:24
savagejenalthough it looks like a bunch of us Ubuntu users have Lenovo Yogas now02:24
taekGoblins are always outside my window!! I am affraind to go out there!02:24
wilee-nileetaek, Somehow I believe that.02:24
dr_willishttp://linux.die.net/man/1/redir       ii would think it may not have such options, just logging options, since it seems to be designed to work as a service02:24
taek:D02:24
taekanyhow, let me get back into desktop mode and out of ptty102:25
savagejenjust use netcat :D02:25
savagejenpipe netcat to netcat02:25
cuddylierdr_willis yeah, just wonder how I'm meant to remove redirects or even see a list lol02:25
dr_williscuddylier:  ;)   it was hard even finding a google hit for docs.. the term 'redir' is a  bit vague02:26
cuddylierYeah lol02:26
cuddylierSuch a good program and exactly what I needed but little docs :(02:26
dr_willis'use the wource luke!' ;)02:26
dr_willissource02:26
taekThat was weird.02:26
taekI got redirected to another channel.02:27
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dr_willisHmm.. i really really have to wonder how durable that Lenovo Yoga Hinge that does all the swiveling is....02:27
TaekHopefully not made from plastic02:27
dr_willisive had to many normal laptop hinges break over the years..02:28
WulframnI played with a display model and it was pretty durable. It stood up to being a display model, after all. =P02:28
TaekI must say, I really dislike Unity.02:28
Taek:-(02:28
dr_willisat least its not an emachine brand. ;)02:28
dr_willisUnity works well for me.02:28
TaekHave to doo too much to get to what you want02:28
WulframnI dislike Unity, too. I haven't used it on a touchscreen, though, so I can't give it a fair shake.02:29
dr_willisthen again i ju,p around so many differnt OS's and desktops on a weekly basis  (or daily basis) it dosent matter what desktop im using02:29
TaekWell, I attempted to stay with Unbutu 10.04.4 as long as I can02:29
TaekThey phased it out.02:29
TaekThere's MATE but.. not developed enough for my usage.02:30
dr_willisthe latest gnome-shell has an offical gnome-2 type mode i belive.. ive not tried it.02:30
WulframnI'm using xfce02:30
dr_willisI can see mate and cinnimon vananishing in the near future02:30
TaekProblem with MATE is.. There don't have enough devs for how many distros they are working on02:30
dr_willismanpower is always the  limiting factor these days it seems02:31
TaekWell, they have maybe one dedicated dev per OS/Distro, and a few floaters..02:32
TaekAs awesome as it would be for them to stay up todate with the distros changes, they arn't able to.02:32
dr_willisits really amazing how few devs are responsible for some of the major apps, and  tools out there.02:32
Taekhmm, I wonder if I can install irssi-scripts02:33
dr_willismost of the webcam drivers i hear are done by like a small group of people. 2-3?    with one guy doing most of them02:33
Taekand use them while irssi is running.02:33
dr_willisIve swithed over to weechat in stead of irssi these days. ;)02:33
qinTaek: You can just download them to #/.irssi02:33
Taek~/.irssi...02:34
qinyup02:34
qinto lazy to shift02:34
Taekhahaha02:34
dr_willisbbl.02:35
TaekNice02:35
Taeknicklist screen02:35
Taekworks02:35
Taek:D02:35
Taektoo used to mirc.02:35
qinTaek: how it looks like with 15 hundreds of bots in channel?02:36
TaekNow to get ubuntu running on my linksys router!02:36
TaekLooks fine.02:36
qinTaek: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Linksys02:37
TaekIt amazes me how developers can cram a linux distro onto a 8MB flash drive with everything they need to run the router.02:37
Taekqin I already have DD-WRT on my linksys02:37
gabash#Beginner02:38
Taekbut it's foobar! I may have to reflash it02:38
qinTaek: why ubuntu would be better?02:38
TaekWhy Not, Ubuntu server, ubuntu Desktop, Ubuntu Router, Ubuntu Laptop, Ubuntu cellphone, ubuntu netbook, ubuntu tablet02:38
qingabash: You do not need # here..02:38
TaekUbuntu kids?!02:38
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qinTaek: Yeah, pity that ubuntu do not cook and stuff.02:39
Taekget a smart programmer and engineering tech to build a system of robots ran on ubuntu.. sure you could02:39
TaekI mean, I have a friend who's house is basically ran on ubuntu02:40
Taekcontrols the light, they reprogrammed their fridge. alarm system, garage.02:40
Taekout door water sprinkler system02:40
TaekAlso programmed with android/iOS to remote control it02:41
TaekPretty nifty stuff.02:41
TaekToo bad he wouldn't wouldn't release the src !02:42
nimdAHK_anyone here use teamviewer?02:42
TaekI use.02:42
nimdAHK_my "setup offline access" option is missing02:42
TaekWhat good is using teamviewer in offline access mode?02:42
nimdAHK_s/offline/unattended02:42
nimdAHK_it's supposed to be under "connection"02:43
soni1877how to get netgear g54 wireless adapter working on ubuntu 64bit?02:43
nimdAHK_but the option is just not present, Taek02:43
Taekwhich version?02:43
nimdAHK_802:43
TaekInstalled or running as "run" mode?02:44
soni1877it is connecting properly but internet speed drops to almost zero frequently02:44
nimdAHK_installed02:44
nimdAHK_with the daemon on02:44
Taeklet me install and atake a look02:44
TaekI am normally using windows02:44
nimdAHK_Taek: http://i.imgur.com/2FHVn7r.png02:45
nimdAHK_(yes, I refreshed the password...)02:46
varunendrasoni1877, please show us pastebin link of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net"02:46
dr_willissoni1877:  check what chipset and module its using and check askubuntu.com  there may be some known isdues02:46
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soni1877http://pastebin.com/KbWFw2GP02:48
TaekExtras -> Options -> Advance -> Advance Networking Settings (TeamViewer server) Configure02:49
Taekshould do the trick for you02:49
nimdAHK_so I can't add it to my account?02:50
nimdAHK_like I did with all my other machines?02:50
TaekI assume after you cofigure it, you should beable to do so02:50
Taekalso note, since TeamViewer for (LOinux) runs in Wine - It might not actually have the ability to do it.02:51
TaekLinux*02:52
nimdAHK_Yeah I noticed the bundled wine02:52
nimdAHK_it's just interesting that the option is completely removed without a mention on the internet02:53
Taekthat's what happens when a big company like teamviewer decide to go the lazy route and not actually make a linux specific software02:54
Taekinstead just use windows emulation02:54
soni1877varunendra: http://pastebin.com/KbWFw2GP02:55
TaekHonestly I am happy TeamViewer even works on linux through wine, the horrors you have to go through to get alot apps to run on it period is bad enough.02:55
Psil0cybinHey guys can someone help me I recently updated my computure through the update manager, and now when i try and boot into ubuntu i sometimes get a blackscreen or i get booted into the text only console, and cannot access the GUI. This only started happening after the update....and i have to restarted 3 or 5 times to get into the GUI02:56
Psil0cybinhow can i diagnose and fix this error02:56
Psil0cybinor do i keep using the older kernal?02:56
TaekJust my guess, but have you updated the video driver?02:56
Psil0cybinI might have i updated everything it wanted to update02:57
Psil0cybinCederview i think is the driver that got updated02:57
Psil0cybinbut i tried reinstalling it, it worked for a few boots and now its doing it again02:57
TaekNever heard of cederview.02:57
Psil0cybinits for an acer aspire one02:57
Psil0cybinone second let me go to the package manager02:58
Psil0cybinand tell u exatly02:58
TaekIntel Atom Processor?02:58
Psil0cybinyes02:58
TaekD250 ?02:58
Psil0cybinD270-162802:58
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Psil0Cybincedarview-drm02:58
Psil0Cybini think was the package02:59
TaekIf I remember correctly, in my Acer Aspire One (D250) it used an Intel based chipset for the video02:59
varunendrasoni1877, sorry, I missed that it was a usb device. We instead need to see "lsusb" (pastebin link again). Even better maybe if you post a detailed report following this post : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1235038502:59
Psil0CybinTo be honest i am not really sure :P I just know usually i allow every update, and nothing goes wrong, I am kinda new to Ubuntu thats why i want to learn how to diagnose it02:59
Psil0Cybinbut you think its the driver?02:59
TaekIt's a possiblity03:00
Taekwhen you get access to the gui again, try checking with the Additionhal Drivers03:00
wilee-nileePsil0Cybin, Is it nvidia and did you load it from them?03:00
Psil0Cybinits Intel i belive wilee-nilee and im in the GUI now03:00
Psil0Cybinthats how i got in to talk to you guys03:00
Psil0CybinYea03:00
TaekI am pretty sure it's an intel based video chipset03:00
Psil0CybinI went to propietary drivers03:01
Psil0Cybini have both selected03:01
Psil0Cybindrm driver for Intel GMA50003:01
Psil0Cybinand Intel Cedarview graphics driver03:01
TaekOnly one should be activated03:01
TaekTry the GMA500 Driver03:01
Psil0Cybinso take off Intel Cedarview Graphical Driver03:01
Psil0Cybin?03:01
Psil0Cybinlike remove it03:01
Psil0Cybin?03:01
Taekselect the GMA500 Driver and click activate03:01
Taekit will deactivate the other03:01
Psil0Cybinthey are both activated03:01
Psil0Cybini only see03:02
Psil0Cybinremove for both03:02
Taekthen deselect the ceder one03:02
Taekerr Select the ceder driver and click deactivate03:02
Taekand then restart the laptop, it should work fine after03:02
wilee-nileePsil0Cybin, might be relevant. http://askubuntu.com/questions/290515/how-to-install-intel-cedarview-drivers-on-ubuntu-12-10-or-13-0403:02
Psil0Cybinokay :) thanks will try it now03:02
Psil0CybinOkay im going to book mark that site too :) incase that doesnt work03:02
Taek:D03:02
Psil0Cybinlet me try it and ill let you guys know03:03
RahoulHi, what is the proper syntax to add a whole subnet to a table using iproute? ip rule add 192.168.1.0/24 does not seem to work :)03:03
Psil0Cybini love this IRC channel :) the sexyest thing on the net03:03
Taek:D03:03
Taekused to use my acer aspire one for network drive bys03:03
Taek:D03:03
Psil0Cybinhahaah thats what this one is for03:04
Psil0Cybini just love how small it is03:04
TaekThen my wife got ahold of it and burnt it out!03:04
Taekwonder why byobu reports my CPU as 2x0.7GHz at some points.03:05
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* Taek afk mode03:07
Rahoulhello?03:08
Rahoul:)03:08
Psil0CybinOkay Taek when i deactivated the Intel Cedarview graphix it deactivated everything so I am reactivating the drm driver for the Intel GMA50003:09
WACOMaltAnyone in here familliar with qemu? I am getting terrible speeds on my windows guest and I assume it's due to the network settings in qemu. I havent changed anything fromt he default and although I get about 40Mbps upload on linux I get about 70Kbps on the windows guest03:16
TaekWhy use qemu?03:17
WACOMaltbecause the server is headless03:17
TaekNot that it really matters in your choice, jut curious.03:17
WACOMaltand I was told it was the fastest03:17
deezedhey guys! I cant connect to a wpa wireless connection if there is any special caracther here, like Ć© or Ć³. Do you know what can I do?03:17
TaekAll my experiences with qemu have been horrible03:17
WACOMaltthe server is headless and qemu gives you a vnc server directly to control the VM with03:17
WACOMaltit runs great aside from the network speed issue03:17
Taekis it running on a dedicated server?03:18
TaekFYI all my experiences with qemu have been on windows afaik.03:19
deezed hey everyone, I'm trying to connect here to a wireless wpa2 connection which the password has special characters like "Ć©" but I'm not allowed to connect,. Do you know what can I do?03:21
TaekChange the wifi password?03:21
deezedI cant, its from my girlfriend's house, and her mate wont like it03:22
nimdAHKsounds like you and the router are using different encodings03:22
Taek^03:23
deezednimdAHK: maybe...do you know how can I figure it out?03:23
TaekFirst off, figure out what enconding you're using?03:23
TaekI believe most routers use UTF-8 .03:23
nimdAHKtry a different network manager too03:23
TaekThen again I am in U.S. so everything here is simplified.03:24
deezednimdAHK: like which one?03:24
nimdAHKgotta catch 'em all?03:24
deezedTaek: true03:24
nimdAHKwicd maybe03:24
deezednimdAHK: ok, I'll try!03:24
deezednimdAHK: thanks03:24
nimdAHKyw, good luck!03:24
ristrahi, i am trying to get my wifi to work on 12.0403:25
TaekNetwork Adapter Chipset?03:25
usr13ristra: So what is the problem?03:25
ristraat some point, I think I messed up my /etc/network/interfaces file03:25
TaekPastebin?03:25
ristrait doesn't have a wlan on it03:25
ristraokie, hold on, i ll pastebin it03:25
usr13ristra: iwconfig  #What does that say?03:26
TaekNo wLan? add it?.03:26
ristrausr13 it only list eth0 and lo03:26
TaekIs it a PCI(e) or USB Adapter ristra03:27
usr13What wifi device do you have?  ( lspci )03:27
ristraTaek, yeap that is the idea but since I am very new (i cant stress the @very@ enough!) I was wondering if it add it on a specific position or something03:27
TaekWhat brand is it ristra ?03:27
pozso i have installed the lastest version of backports from here: http://drvbp1.linux-foundation.org/~mcgrof/rel-html/backports/03:27
ristratoshiba satellite c85503:27
usr13ristra: Wait, what does iwconfig say?   iwconfig | pastebinit    #Show us URL03:27
pozand now my usb wireless chip wont work03:28
varunendraristra, pastebin the report generated by wireless_script : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1235038503:28
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ristrahttp://pastebin.com/Fk1qLZzK here is my interfaces files03:28
pozanyone have any ideas03:28
varunendrathat script will show almost everything (secure) wifi related. Everyone.03:28
pozit is like ubuntu doesnt even see the usb wireless dongle03:28
varunendrapoz, do you have a wired connection now?03:29
kmystanybody able to help with some routing issues? trying to route three networks and running into an issue where i can only ping some things03:29
pozi am using my laptops built in wireless card03:29
pozthe usb wireless card was working before i installed the backports03:30
pozit is like the driver or somthing was over written and now it wont detect that it is plugged in03:30
ristrahttp://pastebin.com/NTfLdeFt  has my interfaces file and the report from iwconfig03:30
varunendrapoz, we need to see "lsusb" and "nm-tool" output.03:30
pozokay, one sec03:31
ristrafirst question i guess is : can i just add wlan  to interfaces file?03:31
usr13ristra: lspci | pastebinit  #send url03:31
TaekHopefully LSUSB sees it and can give us a chipset O.o03:31
ristrausr13 here it is http://pastebin.com/XKiDSgm103:32
ristrathe network controller is there03:32
pozvarunendra, here are the results of both commends: http://pastebin.com/1d97dT3103:32
TaekTwo wifi adapters03:33
TaekOne Atheros and another Realtek03:33
pozthis seems to be the usb wireless dongle Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8192CU 802.11n WLAN Adapte03:33
TaekNeed to run a special driver for it03:33
Taekwell I consider it special;03:34
TaekI forgot what it was called, but you need to run the bcwrapper?03:34
TaekI think that's it03:34
soni1877http://pastebin.com/e0xdrMM403:34
Taekoh wait, that's for broadcom03:34
soni1877varunendra: http://pastebin.com/e0xdrMM403:34
varunendrapoz, you are using WPA/WPA2 mixed mode in the router. Not always a problem but more than often it is. Try changing it to pure WPA2-PSK (AES) only. No TKIP, no mixed mode.03:35
usr13ristra: 12.04?  Fully updated?03:35
ristrausr13: it was a fresh install until I started trying to fix this issue03:36
ristraI tried several different solutions I found online03:36
usr13ristra: 12.04 Desktop?  Is it fully updated?03:36
pozvarunendra, this problem is independent of the router03:36
ristraand I just run the updater so yet, fully updated03:36
pozi can not get ubuntu to detect my usb wireless card03:36
ristra280+  updated modules03:36
usr13ristra: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade03:36
ristraok, i ll run that, hold on03:37
ristraand thanks by the way :)03:37
ristraall is upgraded03:38
deezedhey guys I'm trying to connect to my girlfriend's wireless network, but I can't! First I thought it was because the password had special characters, but its not. And the funniest part is that windows can connect!!!03:38
varunendrasoni1877, try - "sudo modprobe -rfv rtl8192cu" ..... then ......... "sudo modprobe -v rtl8192cu swenc=Y" . See if it improves the connectivity.03:38
deezeddo you know what can I do?03:38
Taekdeezed: what wireless encryption mode is it running in?.03:39
ristrais it ok to change my /etc/network/interfaces to this: http://pastebin.com/uisvwSV1   ?03:39
deezedTaek: wpa203:39
varunendrapoz, for a detailed report : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1235038503:39
Taekwpa2?03:40
deezedTaek: yes03:40
usr13ristra: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200598103:42
deezedTaek: is there maybe any driver I could install?03:42
Taekdeezed: does it return any errors? or just bad password?03:42
deezedTaek: just connection failed03:43
usr13deezed: iwlist <wifi-name-here> -scan03:44
Taekdeezed: I don't see why you would have an issue honestly03:45
ristra_i broke it but I managed to get back hurra03:45
deezedTaek: neither do I!!! thats the point. I cant figure it out03:45
usr13deezed: scratch the -   just iwlist wifi-device-name scan03:46
Taekshouldn't it be iwlist wifi-ssid scan?03:46
usr13deezed: first do   iwconfig   and tell us what it says.03:47
deezedusr13: ok, so now what do I do?03:47
deezedthe access point is not-associated03:47
usr13deezed: Open a terminal and type   iwconfig   and hit enter03:47
MoonlightningI think I broke my kernel. I have a half-installed kernel package and /boot is too full to do anything.03:47
pozhere is the results of the wireless script: http://pastebin.com/WYbu5xMe03:48
deezedusr13: I did and dont know if there is something uncommon03:48
MoonlightningI'm...pretty sure I don't need all these kernels. xP Is there something I can run to autoremove no longer needed kernel packages?03:48
pozcan some one help me find out what happend to wlan1?03:48
usr13deezed: What is the essid of your AP?03:48
deezedusr13: "casa do caralho"03:48
pozit use to be my usb wireless dongle, but after I installed backports from here http://drvbp1.linux-foundation.org/~mcgrof/rel-html/backports/ it stoped working03:49
usr13deezed: iwconfig wlan0 essid "casa do caralho"03:49
usr13deezed: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "casa do caralho"03:49
deezedusr13: ok03:50
deezednow what?03:50
deezeddoes anyone know what can I do next to access this wireless here?03:51
ristra_http://pastebin.com/iiLH46bs  how do I know which wlan to add?  it is not recognizing wlan003:52
wilee-nileeMoonlightning, You have a boot partition?03:53
MoonlightningYes?03:53
wilee-nileeMoonlightning, Ah generally not needed, however the ubuntu-tweak app has a janitor app that will clean up the extra kernels and other stuff.03:54
wilee-nileeMoonlightning, Ubuntu tweak is in a PPA.03:55
TaekOld kernels should be removable with apt-get auto-remove03:55
Taekapt-get autoremove03:55
wilee-nileeNot rue but can be done from the cli03:55
wilee-nileetrue*03:55
MoonlightningI did autoremove03:55
MoonlightningIt didn't remove any of the kernels :(03:55
TaekYou can try with Ubuntu Tweak as wilee-nilee suggested.03:56
MoonlightningI only have a CLI though03:56
wilee-nileeMoonlightning, If you want a nice gui use the tweak, can be done from the terminal or synaptic as well.03:56
wilee-nileethe tweak gets the configs as well, nice little app really03:57
MoonlightningWhat's the name of the package?03:57
wilee-nileeubuntu tweak it is in a ppa03:57
wilee-nileehttp://ubuntu-tweak.com/ Or you can download the deb03:58
wilee-nileehere is the ppa be sure to load the key use the read about installing to get the key with the load.03:59
wilee-nileehttps://launchpad.net/~tualatrix/+archive/ppa03:59
MoonlightningAgh03:59
MoonlightningCan't I just do it with apt-get? >.<03:59
TaekManually delete it okay :D03:59
wilee-nileeMoonlightning, After loading the resorce yes, it is not in the ubuntu repos04:00
MoonlightningAfter what?04:00
pozreal simple question, say i downloaded a driver and there is a install.sh file... how do i use this to install the driver?04:00
Taekyou add the ppa04:00
MoonlightningTaek: yeah, looks like I"m gonna be doing that04:00
Taekpoz sudo ./file.sh04:00
Taekor sudo file.sh04:01
Taekone of those04:01
tux1000hi04:01
pozwell i tryed sudo install.sh04:01
pozdid not work04:01
Taekthen try sudo ./install.sh04:01
MoonlightningGrrrrrrrrr. If I just `sudo apt-get remove` everything except the latest two kernels, I should be fine, right?04:01
Taekif neither, sudo sh install.sh04:01
pozsudo ./install.sh04:02
pozsudo: ./install.sh: command not found04:02
pozsudo sh install.sh worked04:02
pozthank you04:02
Nimblelol04:02
Nimbleyou probably needed to do "chmod +x ./install.sh"04:02
Phoenix1969black screen when booting into ubuntu first time... after choosing the os at the blu startup screen04:03
wilee-nileeMoonlightning, dpkg -l | grep linux-image  to see kernels then sudo apt-get purge04:03
Moonlightning`sudo apt-get purge` all but the latest two kernels?04:03
wilee-nileebe careful is all I will say04:03
MoonlightningI was trying, but I kinda don't have time to muck around with PPAs x.x04:03
wilee-nileemost keep two sets yeah04:03
wilee-nileeMoonlightning, The ppa would be one command to load a update and install run the app and all done.04:04
MoonlightningCan I get a copypastable command, or04:04
tux1000install ultrastar deluxe in ubuntu 13.404:04
Moonlightning...ooookay, manually `apt-get purge`ing kernels, here I go.04:05
wilee-nilee!details | tux100004:05
ubottutux1000: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."04:06
TaekIn that order?!?!?04:06
TaekOh man , I think I did it wrong04:06
tux1000i am running Ubuntu 13.4 of 64 bits04:07
Taekmine was issue @CLRF distro ##04:07
anoneehello everyone04:07
Taek`Elloo04:07
wilee-nileetux1000, took me 3 seconds to find this. http://askubuntu.com/questions/286583/how-can-i-install-ultrastar-deluxe-in-ubuntu-13-0404:07
wilee-nileenever heard of the game04:08
TaekShould be installing steam instead04:08
MoonlightningI got warnings about broken symlinks under /boot04:08
Taeksymlinks is link files04:09
Taeksimilar to shortcuts in windows04:09
MoonlightningI know what a symlink is. XD04:09
pozanyone know how to get ubuntu to recognize a wireless usb dongle?04:09
Taek:D04:09
tux1000this is the problem, it is not repository, the repository not official is for 12.10 and 12.404:09
Taekpoz I believe someone answered you already.04:09
MoonlightningIs there a command I can run to check if the system is bootable as it is now?04:10
MoonlightningI'm kinda scared to shut down. XD04:10
pozit has not solved my problem04:10
TaekYou ran the cmdline code the person gave you about 5/10 mins ago?04:10
TaekI believe it was to install a driver.04:11
pozcmdline?04:11
anoneeI'm trying to modify a program's icon in the notification area of GNOME Classic panel. I tried altering /usr/share/icons but to no avail... somebody told me that the icon reference is in /usr/share/applications/<appname> but what I'm finding there is icon=<icon> but not a path to where the icon file is... any help is appreciated04:11
pozthe install.sh thing?04:11
wilee-nileepoz, when you post something are are talking with someone use their nick, you had a pro helper got as far as posting their script but did n ot direct it at them with their nick.04:11
TaekNo. poz04:11
pozi installed the driver from the manufactuing website, but the wireless usb dongle still does not work04:11
Taekanonee: did you look in /usr/share/applications for the icon itself that was listed in the file?04:12
wilee-nilee!who | poz04:12
ubottupoz: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)04:12
pozi understand04:12
Moonlightning[open query] Is there a command I can run to check if the system is bootable as it is now?04:12
poztaek, maybe i missed it as I was restarting my computer04:12
anoneeTaek I don't understand, you mean the .desktop file contains an icon?!04:13
wilee-nileepoz, Cool we want you to succeed. ;)04:13
Taekyou said there was a file you looked into in /usr/share/applications/04:13
Taekanonee*04:13
Taekanonee: did you happen to look for the icon file in the same folder with the file you retrieved the icon name from04:14
wilee-nileeMoonlightning, run sudo update-grub04:16
anoneeTaek /usr/share/applications contains .desktop files, they contain something like this:04:16
ascidia001whats the general ubuntu chat name?04:16
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Moonlightningwilee-nilee: I don't have grub04:16
anoneeTaek Exec=tomboy --search04:16
anoneeIcon=tomboy04:16
anoneeStartupNotify=true04:16
anoneeTerminal=false04:16
FloodBot1anonee: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:16
MoonlightningI have yaboot; grub doesn't support ppc x.x04:16
wilee-nileeMoonlightning, Is this a wubi install?04:16
Moonlightningwilee-nilee: No, it's a standard Ubuntu Server installation04:16
Taekanonee: I am aware of what's in there04:17
Taekdo you know the location of the icon you want to use?04:17
wilee-nileeMoonlightning, Never heard of yaboot, there must be a autoload or file to check the boot.04:17
anoneeTaek that was just an example, there's still more 9 lines...04:17
Moonlightningargh04:17
wilee-nileeMoonlightning, Your answers are probably here. http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/yaboot-howto/04:18
Taekanonee: did you logout/in after making your icon change?04:18
anoneeOh sorry Taek, then what do you suggest? it says: icon=tomboy but where is tomboy?!04:18
Pepperonipizzaim trying to copy one large dir + sub dirs to another, but I don't want to overwrite existing files only copy the new ones, will cp -rvn do that ?04:18
anoneeTaek no actually, and sorry, I'll try and let u know if any04:19
TaekOkay :D04:19
anoneethank you Taek04:19
ntzrmtthihu777I don't suppose anyone here has a tutorial on how to create a package like flashplugin-installer or oracle-java7-installer, one that just downloads something and installes it for you?04:20
Moonlightning[open query] Isn't there just some apt-get command to redo all the...whatever it normally does when you install|remove kernels?04:20
TaekMoonlightning: I believe not.04:21
MoonlightningAaaaargh.04:21
TaekI could be wrong, but I am pretty certain there isn't.04:21
* Moonlightning installs an older kernel then. >.<04:21
Pepperonipizzawhat does portupgrade -a do ?04:21
Taekportupgrade --?04:22
Taekportupgrade -?04:22
Taekportupgrade --help04:22
Taektry those04:22
ntzrmtthihu777or man portupgrade :P04:22
Taekthat too04:22
Taekthought that would be too much for him/her, ntzrmtthihu77704:23
ntzrmtthihu777lol, I say jump in both feet first XD04:24
Taekand hurt your jewels?04:24
Taek(for a guy that is)04:24
* Taek <- guy04:25
ntzrmtthihu777lol XD04:25
wilee-nileeTaek, This is a family channel.04:25
Pepperonipizzawhy does cp -rvn /dir /newdir  -- clobber stuff I thought it wasn't supposed to04:25
DarkAceLaptopis there something similar to /timer command (hexchat) that I can use in the command line?04:25
DarkAceLaptopbasically, something that will execute a command after an amount of time04:26
wilee-nileeDarkAceLaptop, There is #xchat for help as well, I use hexcaht same basic apps.04:26
TaekDarkAceLaptop: Have you tried "Sleep(600)" or "Sleep 600"04:27
anoneeTaek I just did, no joy. I expected this cuz I restarted the program before.04:27
DarkAceLaptophmm04:27
TaekPretty common using sleep04:27
wilee-nileeDarkAceLaptop, Can you be specific, that is a vague decription at least to me.04:27
Taekanonee: did you modify the icon in /usr/share/icons/default/ ?04:27
Taekor in just a random folder?04:28
wilee-nileea like refrence only means something to someone who knows what you are talking about.04:28
Moonlightningwelp04:28
DarkAceLaptopah, thanks Taek04:28
MoonlightningIf it comes down to it, I should be able to boot using this old kernel04:28
DarkAceLaptopwilee-nilee, sleep is just what I was looking for04:28
Moonlightningrebooting now, wish me luck :P04:28
wilee-nileeah cool04:28
TaekMoonlightning: G/L04:28
TaekDarkAceLaptop: It's a pretty common command in alot of scripting languages04:29
ntzrmtthihu777so no-one knows about that?04:29
anoneeTaek no! I did a search for the program name and there were icons only in the hicolor theme, although I'm not using this theme, but these were the icons that I modified! but I'll check now.04:29
wilee-nileentzrmtthihu777, Not really needed in linux per-say04:29
wilee-nileeplenty of package types and loaders already04:30
ntzrmtthihu777wilee-nilee: I'm doing this for the non-techs, lol.04:30
TaekDarkAceLaptop: FYI sleep in most scripting languages pauses the script for the given amount of time specified prior to continuing on04:30
DarkAceLaptopyeah, so 'sleep 500; command'04:31
wilee-nileentzrmtthihu777, Ah, adding to the confusion, you go then. ;)04:31
TaekDarkAceLaptop: 500 devided by 6004:31
TaekShould tell you how long it will pause for in seconds04:31
DarkAceLaptopis there a way of asking a program to exit, or is that what kill does?04:31
TaekEXIT 004:32
Taekin most cases DarkAceLaptop04:32
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TaekEXIT or EXIT 004:32
lotuspsychjeDarkAceLaptop: theres one that can kill apps after memory limit too04:32
Taekdepends on the language you're scripting in04:32
lotuspsychjeforget its name04:32
DarkAceLaptopas in, a command via terminal04:32
anoneeTaek guess what! the default directory only contains index.theme and it says inherit=DMZ-White and DMZ-White has only cursors. how can you explain that?!04:32
Pepperonipizzatrying to copy files without overwriting but cp -rvn is overwriting... any ideas ?04:32
ntzrmtthihu777Pepperonipizza: cp -rvnc?04:32
Pepperonipizzantzrmtthihu777: whats c ?04:33
Taekanonee: Not a clue, dpn'04:33
Taekdon't think I could explain even if I knew haha04:33
Pepperonipizzai don't see a c in the manpage04:33
TaekPepperonipizza: you might be using a wrong switch04:33
ntzrmtthihu777wilee-nilee: lol, just want something simple for the minecraft modders on linux so they can install techne without pulling their hair out :P04:33
Taektechne?04:34
PepperonipizzaTaek: well -n is no clobber = no overwrite I though04:34
wilee-nileentzrmtthihu777, I understand.04:34
ntzrmtthihu777wilee-nilee: I got it working manually, but not everyone using linux is that techie :P04:35
TaekPepperonipizza: try with -i instead of in04:35
Taek-n *04:35
Taeksee if will work with interactive overwrite requests04:35
PiyushBin dd command the base size is refers to page size in memory of the block to be written on harddisk ?04:35
PepperonipizzaTaek: if I have to answer every time its gonna take a week its like 400gb of files04:36
wilee-nileentzrmtthihu777, I could not code my way out of a thin paper bag, and an armchair user, just a bit obsessed is all. ;)04:36
TaekPepperonipizza: try with a compule of files04:36
Taeknot all04:36
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varunendraPepperonipizza, take a look at rsync (man rsync).04:36
PepperonipizzaTaek: yes its asking04:36
TaekPepperonipizza: you are correct though -n is supposed to not allow overwriting04:37
Pepperonipizzavarunendra: ok so rsync -rv -- but what switch is like -n on cp ?04:38
Pepperonipizza---ignore-existing04:38
Pepperonipizzak04:38
ntzrmtthihu777Pepperonipizza: maybe -u ? it only copies when the new file is newer than the destination04:38
varunendraPepperonipizza, I haven't used it via command line myself, just read about it sometimes.04:39
Pepperonipizzaseems like neithero ne works04:40
Pepperonipizzawtf04:40
aoglobalentneed some newbie help, can any one be of service?04:40
ntzrmtthihu777!ask | aoglobalent04:40
ubottuaoglobalent: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:40
wilee-nilee!language > Pepperonipizza04:41
ubottuPepperonipizza, please see my private message04:41
Pepperonipizzaoh grow up dude04:41
Pepperonipizzahonestly you fucking troll04:41
holsteinPepperonipizza: i do appreciate your help here, but you cant use that language here, please04:42
aoglobalento.k., I just did a fresh install of Ubuntu's latest version. I have not used Linux in apx 4 years, so I am very "green" to this all. I am installing catalyst for my 7990's. It is taking a bit, but needless to say it is workjing thus far... That being said what I need to know is how to access my repositories?04:42
Pepperonipizzavarunendra: ntzrmtthihu777 itseems like using both -u and --ignore-existing is working04:42
holsteinaoglobalent: what repositories do you have?04:43
Taekaoglobalent: repositories for what?04:43
wilee-nileeaoglobalent, name the actual install, what are your repositories.04:43
holsteinaoglobalent: ppa's?04:43
TaekUbuntu Software Center if you need to look for something aoglobalent.04:43
happyfacehow can I login to a mounted linux volume? I have a /mnt/wontBoot filesystem with a broken image and I want to login as root and fix it04:43
aoglobalentahhh04:43
aoglobalentok04:44
anoneeTaek could the icon be inside the application like in windows?04:44
holsteinhappyface: i usually just hit it with a live CD04:44
Pepperonipizzahappyface: chroot ?04:44
happyfacePepperonipizza: yeah chroot, that's it! thanks04:44
Taekanonee: Not all icons are inside their applications in windows. but there is a possiblity.04:44
holstein!chroot04:44
ubottuA chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot04:44
aoglobalentI am running a dual core because this is a mining Rig and needless to say, I needed to run one Linux box for various reasons.. That being said, can I find CGMiner in the repos?04:44
Pepperonipizzahappyface: np ;-D04:44
Taekaoglobalent: most things like that are not in the Official Ubuntu Repos, but you can look to see04:45
aoglobalentI believe that is why it is taking so long for these ATI drivers to be installed... I mean this thing has been going for about 20 minutes now :/04:45
aoglobalentgot yah04:45
aoglobalentTaek, thanks allot for the help :)04:46
Pepperonipizzaaoglobalent: 7990's in linux, what for lol?04:46
wilee-nileeaoglobalent, It is in the saucy universe04:46
Taekaoglobalent: I just did a search, CGMiner is not there - you'll probably have to compile it from source04:46
aoglobalentMining04:46
Pepperonipizzaahh.04:46
aoglobalentCrypto Coin Mining04:46
PepperonipizzaI thought mining wasn't really profitable anymore04:46
wilee-nileehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cgminer/3.3.1-104:46
alex_Okay so what's with the 4 days thing on Ubuntu's homepage?04:47
ntiyhey. I am trying to do something like: ssh host "do smth | awk '{print $1}' " and it does not work. AWK part does not seem so process output of smth and print only first column. Instead I get full output. Can someone explain why?04:47
TaekOh, it's in the extras..04:47
aoglobalentwell, that is what they say, but I say dif....04:47
aoglobalentI am not even fully operations yet, and I am mining Coins no problem...04:47
aoglobalentThe problem has become the Asic Miners Really04:47
aoglobalentThey have taken the difficulty levels through the roof04:47
aoglobalentbut there are alt Coin's, etc....04:48
TaekAsic?.04:48
aoglobalentYUP04:48
wilee-nileealex_, HOw about a link to it or some details.04:48
aoglobalentthey are a type of Mining Chip04:48
aoglobalentI am not to clear on the whole story to be honest, but essentialy there are new mining machines that do 10x more than GPU's with 10X less power consumption04:48
alex_wilee-nilee: http://www.ubuntu.com/04:49
Taekntiy I don't think you can run a command on the same line as ssh host directly04:49
aoglobalentThe Power consumption on these baby's ios the problem....04:49
vijuHello, how do I check what new version of the update is available for a package?04:49
Pepperonipizzaif I had 7990's i'd game on them haha.04:49
Taekviju: update manager.04:49
wilee-nileealex_, they might know better in #ubuntu-touch04:49
ntiyTaek: you definitely can do ssh host 'hostname'04:50
TaekI didn't say you couldn't ntiy04:50
ntiyTaek: what did you mean then?04:50
Taekntiy: I don't believe you can run a command in the same line with the ssh host command04:50
vijuTaek: I am looking for thunderbird update, in update manager there's nohing is listed about Thunderbird04:51
TaekBasically what you are doing is running two commands in the same line04:51
Taekviju http://www.mozzila.com/thunderbird04:51
Taekshould do it04:51
ntiyam I not running one command on a remote host?04:51
Taekmis-spelling lol04:51
Taekviju:  sorry about that link - correctly -> http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/04:52
wilee-nileeviju, Wot does not like that link, what thnderbird do you ahve and what do you want.04:52
wilee-nileesecond link is okay, not sure why one would not use the repos.04:53
TaekWhy is it everytime I stand up - my wife's cat runs for dear life!04:53
Taekwilee-nilee: the person wishes to check version04:53
steve__I was just trying to update my Ubuntu to 12.04 and I got an error saying it could not import a module during Installing the uprades part of the download04:54
wilee-nileeTaek, The repos have the same versions in 24 hrs or less.04:54
Taeksteve__: to which version are you updating?04:54
vijuI'll check that Taek .   wilee-nilee my msn mails are not being fetched since april but it used to work pulling out some data, so when I check out that it's downloading same old mails from the past and now I have lots of duplicates. Someone suggested downloading a newer version should help solve the problem.04:54
steve__I rebooted it and got stuck at a command line that say (initramfs)04:54
steve__Taek: 12.0404:55
Taeksteve__: from 12.04 to which?04:55
steve__also says BusyBox v1. 13.304:55
wilee-nileeviju, What doe the help in yuour thunderbird show as a version?04:55
steve__Taek no from 10 to 1204:56
TaekWeird, I just did it couple of days ago without issue04:56
Taekfrom 1.04.4 to 12.0404:56
Taek10.04.4 to 12.0404:56
steve__yep04:56
Taekhow did you initiate the upgrade?04:56
vijuwilee-nilee: 17.0.604:57
steve__USB04:57
TaekHmm04:57
steve__I installed it onto the ram first04:57
TaekSomehow somewhere it's possible that the USB drive got disconnected.04:57
wilee-nileeviju, Only thing newer is 17.0.7, I doubt the problem is a upgrade needed, have you asked in ##windows as far as any changes to MSN.04:57
ntiythere is my answer if anyone is wondering:  ssh host "do smth | awk '{print \$1}' "04:58
ntiythanks all04:58
steve__then installed 10.04.4 onto the system successfully then just tried to upgrade04:58
Taekntiy: :D04:58
wilee-nilee!eol | steve__ look at eol upgrades04:58
ubottusteve__ look at eol upgrades: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades04:58
Taeksteve__: sorry I don't have any idea how to possibly help04:58
vijuwilee-nilee: I am doing it now04:59
wilee-nileesteve__, This is a desktop right?04:59
TaekUsually if something like that happens to me, I just download the latest distro or the one I want and install fresh04:59
steve__wilee: yep04:59
wilee-nileeviju, Cool I see you there.04:59
steve__I'm just going to uimage another USB stick04:59
steve__and try it again05:00
wilee-nileesteve__, Cool the dektop is eol, the server is not, just wanted to be sure we were on the same page.05:00
Taek10.04.4 is EOL..05:00
wilee-nileesteve__, What is the problem with a 12.04 install?05:00
xmetal=)) just noticed a hickup in my idea ... i need to apply a bios upgrade to a laptop that cant  boot to usb devices (flash drive or cdrw/dvdrw) .. was going to use my old portable A:Drive (3x5 disc)05:00
xmetalbut that is USB too05:00
Taekwilee-nilee: his upgrade failed hard during install of one of the packages05:00
wilee-nileeTaek, The server is not though05:00
xmetal=))05:00
sodacrunchif you are on Ubuntu, and you have Ruby 1.9 installed and you want 2.0, can you apt-get update ruby, or remove ruby and then specifically install 2.0?05:01
Taekwilee-nilee: that's weird, repos are missing for me!05:01
steve__wilee:  it got an error while in dkconf05:01
Taeklet me check something05:01
wilee-nileesteve__, On the 12.04 install?05:01
steve__wilee:  during the upragding stage of the installation05:01
steve__yes05:02
wilee-nileesteve__, So why not just install 12.04?05:02
Taekwhat the!!!.. now I can't login.. permission denied (pubkey)05:02
steve__I was trying to install 12.0405:02
wilee-nileeand what happened?05:02
xmetalsometimes i find a "fresh install" is better05:02
TaekWhy would I get a permissions died (pubkey)05:03
Taekwhen attempting to ssh05:03
TaekUnless.. my pub keys didn't stay!05:03
steve__during the installation it got an error in the usr/bin file while setting up dkconf05:04
wilee-nileesteve__, Did you check the sum of the ISO?05:04
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steve__wilee: no05:04
netlarI am using the AMD driver, should I be blacklisting the open source driver?05:05
wilee-nileesteve__, It is rather unusual for it to just error out in a install, going to a eol to upgrade is a bad idea, use the mini netload maybe.05:05
wilee-nileeor check the sum and or download 12.04 again in the torrent maybe.05:06
vigoosI have lost my ubuntu password. I tried resetting the password from recovery mode. Still it throws up an error and im stuck05:09
Taekoh my bad wilee-nilee seems I am running 11.04 not 10.04.405:09
vigoosI have lost my ubuntu password. I tried resetting the password from recovery mode.05:10
wilee-nileeTaek, Heh, it happens, check the eol upgrades if you mve up.05:11
wilee-nileemove*05:11
vigoosanyone has any solution?05:11
Taek12.04 is like 2016 or 2017.05:11
wilee-nileevigoos, what link did you use to try the recovery?05:11
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wilee-nileevigoos, And what happened.05:12
vigooshttp://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-forgotten-ubuntu-password-in-2-minutes-or-less/05:12
vigoosit threw up an error saying password unchanged05:12
Taeki'll be already with 12.04 until year 201705:12
tracekillSo, is UEFI pretty much the death sentence for dual booting that it seems to be?05:13
tracekillOr rather SecureBoot?05:13
jdaleHi05:13
lotuspsychje!uefi | tracekill05:14
ubottutracekill: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI05:14
wilee-nileevigoos, Have you set a root password, besides having the user password?05:14
jdaleHi05:14
Taekhmm I forgot how to do multiple irc servers with irssi :(05:15
goddardTaek: you could just use multiple tabs05:16
wilee-nileetracekill, Many dualboot with the safeboot, it is just a learning exspeience for some I think.05:16
wilee-nileetracekill, here is more info that is probably helpful. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214729505:17
tracekillYeah, I literally just now got it (somewhat) working on my Acer M5-583P-6428. Is there somewhere I can put the caveats I ran into?05:17
wilee-nileetracekill, YOu could add them to that thread I posted for the author to look at.05:18
wilee-nileeNot sure its open is all05:18
TaekWhoia Just got an error about lssb_re;ease05:18
Taeklsb_release05:19
TaekWhat would cause this: lsb_release crashed with IOError in getstatusoutput(); [Errno 10] No child Processes05:20
PepperonipizzaTaek: isn't it lsb_release -a05:21
TaekI dunno05:21
TaekUbuntu error window05:21
Taek"Sorry, Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced and internal error."05:22
Taekone of those windows05:22
Taekupgrade did horrible from 10.04.4 to 12.0405:23
vigoos_anyone knows how to reset the password from grub?05:24
Taekman I might just go streight to 13.04 at this time05:24
sodacrunchI am scared05:24
irssi-mikeI had no mouse after installing nvidia drivers so i did modprobe psmouse proto=imps and it came back but now I realize that even under settings it appears that I can't adjust the sensitivity of it (it's extremely slow) and i'm wondering how to get my mouse back permanently and change the senstivity?05:25
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irssi-mikepretty please05:25
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xmetalthat reminds me .. i just (never saw/messed with it before) saw gfxboot (have to find what that does and how to use it ... ) as well as (i think i have this right) grub-image (to boot ISO's?)05:27
xmetaljust noticed that in the description05:27
wilee-nileesodacrunch, Some general info. http://askubuntu.com/questions/261329/package-for-ruby-2-0-on-precise05:28
wilee-nileexmetal, You can boot ISO dfrom grub on a install, and there are handfuls of usb loaders many of which allow multiple ISO's05:29
TaekI wonder, that person that wanted to make a deb for minecraft, why he/she just not make a install.run script05:30
wilee-nileeseemed like an imagined need anyway, learning the ways everyone uses seems like more functional learning situation05:32
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aoglobalenthow do I check if my catlayst - sti drivers are installed?05:34
Taekwell, an install.run script is just basically a sh script with binary data attached to it (file.tar.gz) and can be adapted to different distros and version between them05:34
aoglobalentI just went to the ATI site and downloaded the drivers05:34
aoglobalentI walked away from my comp and it froze my screen and am not sure if my drivers finished installing05:35
aoglobalentHOW can I check?05:35
Taekhmm I don't know that answer aoglobalent05:35
Taekmaybe wilee-nilee  ??05:35
wilee-nileeTaek, I get some 3rd parties that are sh scripts yeah no biggie to install.05:36
wilee-nileeHonestly I suspect the gamers need another type of help, lol05:37
* wilee-nilee ducks05:37
sodacrunchthanks wilee-nilee05:37
* sodacrunch sighs05:37
wilee-nileesodacrunch, seems to be a time to yell at the ruby developers.05:38
sodacrunchwilee-nilee: hmmm true05:38
Taekaoglobalent: you could try this05:41
Taekegrep -i " connected|card detect|primary dev" /var/log/Xorg.0.log05:41
paindeerhi05:41
Pepperonipizzadoes anyone know if I make a partition using parted on linux w/ type ufs is it ufs or ufs2 ?05:43
Taekaoglobalent: you can try installing sysinfo and see if that tells you want's going on05:45
sodacrunchgoo05:50
sodacrunchgoodnight friends05:50
Taek<3 AMD05:58
Taekthey make drivers for linux unlike that of intel05:58
Taekerr nvidia05:58
farbod##xbox06:01
kingbeastI've never had a problem with any Intel graphics I have ever used, even the old ones.06:12
Calinoui have kernel panics 1) randomly when booting, 2) often when my CPU is at full load, on xubuntu 13.0406:13
Calinoui heard 3.8.0-19 kernel was problematic, is this true?06:13
Calinoubut i usually don't crash at idle06:13
wilee-nileeCalinou, you should have 3.8.0.2606:13
Calinoui'll hope for the update manager to not fuck up my PPA-provided nvidia driver then06:14
kingbeast!language06:14
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.06:14
Calinousorry06:14
feeverI'm having choppy then failing sound with wine on 12.04. PulseAudio works fine for everything else. It's just sound on wine. I've been having trouble finding others with the exact same issue. Audio device is Radeon HD 4000 series.06:15
feeverthe kernel module is snd-hda-intel06:17
wilee-nileefeever, Have you stopped by #winehq06:17
feeverwilee-nilee, not yet, will do.06:17
feeverwilee-nilee, that's not the channel06:18
wilee-nileefeever, For?06:18
feeverwine channel06:18
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wilee-nileefeever, Funny I was just there and there info link is the eine website.06:19
wilee-nileewine*06:19
Calinou:/ can't update through the GUI update manager06:19
Calinoucomplains about unauthentified software sources06:19
wilee-nileeTopic for #winehq is: Wine end user support http://www.winehq.org feever06:19
ikoniaCalinou: what does ?06:20
feeverwilee-nilee, typo in channel name, sorry06:20
wilee-nileefeever, it happens. ;)06:20
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Calinoumaybe it's relevant but when I do sudo apt-get update I get these warnings:06:20
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Calinouerm, I tried uncommenting all my PPAs06:21
ikoniaCalinou: what's the actual problem06:22
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Calinou<Calinou> i have kernel panics 1) randomly when booting, 2) often when my CPU is at full load, on xubuntu 13.0406:22
Calinoualso had this on 12.10, with two different RAMs and storages.06:22
Calinou(but I never had it on booting)06:22
Calinoualso read somewhere ubuntu hates SSDs06:22
ikoniaCalinou: ok, that's just wrong06:22
Calinouand that's why I crash sometimes on boot06:22
ikonianope06:22
ikoniathere is zero chance of that being the case06:23
Calinoui read the 3.8.0-19 kernel was panicky06:23
ikonianope06:23
ikoniayou seem to be reading a lot of random made up information06:23
Calinouit's not overheating, my CPU hardly hits 55Ā°C at load06:24
Calinousame for graphics card06:24
ikoniaalways good to know and check06:24
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wilee-nileeCalinou, Sounds like you might develop a critical thinking process, double check what you read, I run ubuntu on a SSD with o problems.06:38
Calinoui'm not asking for ops dissing me here 8)06:39
wilee-nileeCalinou, Nobodies dissing you that critical thinking is what you learn in academia.06:40
wilee-nileedid not mean to anyway. ;)06:40
taekcustom minecaft launcher yay06:41
Calinouavoid from using them, especially if they're not open source06:43
taekCalinou: are you talking to me?06:43
Calinouyes06:44
taekLaucnher command? not sure what to call it06:45
taekShortcut to launch it?06:45
taekApplication Launcher06:46
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Taeksince in my ubuntu enviornment, while click on the Minecraft.jar - it opens in Archive pogram06:47
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mohawkIs there any reson to fear Ubuntu, is the Canonical dev team safe? what if they dont like us or get mad at us? thats kinda scary to think about.06:47
Calinoumake a .sh that uses java -Xms1G -jar minecraft.jar06:47
Taekso instead of having to open terminal and continue to use it to play, I made a app launcher06:47
Calinoumohawk: they are safe06:47
Calinouand if you're using steam or a proprietary driver right now, you're being hypocritic 8)06:48
ikoniawhat ?06:48
Calinoupeople complain about ubuntu, and they use tons of proprietary stuff.06:48
Calinouonce i even saw people using skype06:48
TaekI have an actual icon to click on the side to launch minecraft, Calinou06:48
Calinouit's just a .sh script or a .desktop file06:49
ikoniaCalinou: his question has NOTHING to do with propritary software, you appear to have real issues reading information given to you06:49
Calinouno i'm relating both06:49
ikoniaCalinou: this is nothing to do with propitary software, please help people with the questions they ask, not your weak attempts to be negative about things06:50
Taekikonia: I wasn't asking a question haha06:50
ikoniaTaek: who said you where ?06:50
TaekJust stating.06:50
ikoniathanks for that random bit of info06:50
Calinoudoes anyone have any idea why does my problem occur?06:51
ikoniaCalinou: what have you done to investigate it ?06:51
Calinoutried with several RAMs already, tried resetting BIOS settings06:52
ikoniathat is just random06:52
ikoniawhat have you actually done to investigate it06:52
TaekWhat's your issue Calinou  ?06:52
Alegreyatrol06:52
Calinoukernel panics (or freeze + reboot) when I use 100% CPU, or sometimes when booting or logging in06:53
Calinouwhat do you mean by "actually done to investigate it"?06:53
TaekANd you are certain this is caused by ram?.06:53
ikoniaCalinou: well, what have you done to look at the problem / diagnose it, find a pattern/rule out a pattern06:53
Calinouno? i'm actually thinking it's a software issue06:53
ikoniaCalinou: the odds are it is a software issue06:54
Calinoui get this problem since i built my PC in march06:54
Alegreyaits caused by cat fur in the cpu fan06:54
ikoniaAlegreya: stop it now06:54
Calinouno, i even changed the thermal paste recently, to no avail06:54
ikoniaAlegreya: help with real help, or be quiet06:54
TaekCalinou: have you attempted to try with an alternate OS, windows perhaps?06:54
ikoniaCalinou: ok, so lets look at it a bit logically06:54
ikoniaCalinou: what's your current OS ?06:54
Calinouxubuntu 13.04 64 bit06:54
ikoniaCalinou: ok, you said you built this PC in march correct ?06:55
Calinouyes06:55
afflicto_Hey all, I recently did "sudo apt-get remove compiz" by accident. What should I do?06:55
ikoniaCalinou: has ubuntu 13.04 always been the OS on it (doubtful as 04 is after march)06:55
Calinouused to use xubuntu 12.10 64 bit on it06:55
aeon-ltdafflicto: install it again?06:55
ikoniaafflicto_: re-install it ?06:55
ikoniaCalinou: ok, in the short time you used 12.10 - did you have this problem ?06:55
Alegreyaaccident...06:55
CalinouIIRC, only when 100% CPU is used, not when booting06:56
TaekYou don't accidently remove compiz in terminal..06:56
ikoniaCalinou: ok, so there is still a panic though, so for at least one root cause, you can stop thinking abou things like kernel as they are different between the two versions06:56
afflicto_I was gonna remove copmiz-settings-manager thing xD06:56
ikoniaagreed ?06:56
Taekikonia: Agreed.06:56
ikoniaTaek: ok, so the first thing I heard early was "disable all my PPA's"06:57
ikoniaTaek: oops, sorry not you06:57
TaekHAHAH06:57
ikoniaCalinou: the first thing I heard earlier is "disable all my PPA's"06:57
ikoniaCalinou: PPA's are not supported/maintained by the ubuntu core dev team, and often are just terrible software,06:58
Calinourelevant: http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1286311 (french)06:58
lenzHey guys! I'd like to install a linux-based OS on a piece of hardware that I have here.. It's a JayBook 9901 (one of those tiny chinese netbooks) and it has a VIA M8505 processor, which is ARM-based. How do I find out which debian image I should download?06:58
Calinouikonia: nvidia-319 isn't available in official ubuntu repos06:58
ikoniaCalinou: to work this through, (you'll hate this) I suggest a CLEAN 13.04 install, with no PPA's installed at all, no 3rd party06:58
ikoniaCalinou: ahhhh and it's abinary kernel module06:58
ikoniaCalinou: I think we see a nice suspect06:58
Calinouhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/116998406:59
ubottuUbuntu bug 1169984 in Ubuntu Desktop Tests "3.8.0-18 HDMI/DisplayPort audio regression: Either oops or opening device fails with -ENODEV" [Undecided,New]06:59
ikoniaCalinou: I suggest a clean install with NO PPA's installed, run it with the vesa xorg driver and monitor it to see if you get the panics under load06:59
ikoniaCalinou: are you having that bug / error ?06:59
TaekI would also like to add, if the issues continues try a something such as windows or perhaps debian.06:59
Calinoulikely06:59
CalinouI see that snd_hda thingy07:00
ikoniaCalinou: no, are you getting it, yes/no07:00
TaekTo see if the High CPU issue continues07:00
ikoniaCalinou: that's a sound card module unloading, that means nothing07:00
CalinouI am seeing it07:00
ikoniaCalinou: sorry, you appear to be approaching this randomly rather than actually analysing your problem07:00
ikoniacan't help while you just guess at things and try to link them to random bugs07:01
ikoniawe've already shown with 12.10 it's not the kernel at this root cause, and you agreed, yet your linking to kernel bugs07:01
ikoniacan't be bothered wasting more time on this,07:01
Calinoudidn't have it at booting, just when CPU is at load07:02
ikoniaCalinou: you still had a kernel panic, you've got to address one at a time07:03
ikoniarather than scatter gun07:03
feevermohawk, as long as they don't load spyware by default on the main distro, I think the Ubuntu team may be ok. As soon as someone sees some kind of spyware though, who knows.07:04
feeveroh wait...07:04
mohawkIs there any reson to fear Ubuntu, is the Canonical dev team safe? what if they dont like us or get mad at us? thats kinda scary to think about.his ip address. i am stupid and have no defense for high technology attacks.07:06
Calinouneither nouveau nor vesa are solutions to me, too07:06
ikoniamohawk: you've already asked that07:06
ikoniamohawk: you've already been told "no reason to fear, use it. If you don't trust them, don't use it"07:06
ikoniaCalinou: what do you mean "solutions"07:06
aeon-ltdmohawk: you crazy man, should you fear the electric companies? gas? ISPs? banks?07:06
Calinoudrivers which provide what my card can provide07:06
mohawkfeever: no I meant that my cousin is mentally ill and rants on irc with my computer and didnt want to make the dev team mad at my ip address because i have no way to deal with high technology07:07
ikoniaCalinou: it is "trouble shooting", to find the problem07:07
aeon-ltdmohawk: then they will ban you and not care unless you forcibly removed the ban07:07
feevermohawk, http://www.pcworld.com/article/2013315/ubuntu-linuxs-amazon-integration-gets-a-thumbs-down-from-the-eff.html07:07
ikoniaCalinou: sorry, can't help you, you don't to listen, you can't approach this logically, and you've already made up your mind07:07
Calinoubye anyway, for now07:08
Calinoualso, i am listening07:08
Frank81Realy big trouble ! i cant use apt-get remove coz it fails07:10
ikoniaFrank81: you'll need to explain clearer than that if you want help07:10
ikoniaFrank81: the answer with the same ammount of detail is "fix it"07:10
aeon-ltdFrank81: post the exact message here if it fits on one line, if not pastebin07:10
Frank81http://pastebin.de/3541207:12
Frank81since i am not sure what the exact fail is :d there are many07:13
Frank81but it would be enought to get that out of the package management so that i can reinstall it07:13
TaekFrank81: are you using "sudo apt-get remove" ?07:13
Frank81i did a fail and added a deb wezzy repo07:13
Frank81ya i use sudo taek07:14
Frank81but i can do a sudo su -07:14
Frank81when you think it helps07:14
TaekHave you tried with "sudo apt-get purge package-name"07:14
auronandaceFrank81: never mix debian repos with ubuntus, things will break badly07:14
Taek^07:15
Frank81auronand good point07:15
Frank81oh i am so tiered :(07:15
Frank81why is it so hard to get a fast webserver running07:15
aeon-ltdFrank81: try nginx?07:16
Frank81maybe i simply re install the whole server07:16
Frank81aeon-ltd not fast enought and to bugy and to much changes07:16
Alegreyahttp://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/201307/page12.html07:16
Frank81many reason for don't using nginx07:16
AlegreyaFrank8107:16
Frank81nginx is a fake at all apache-mpm-event is the same with fast cgi07:17
Alegreyaare you sniff my connection?07:17
Frank81and is even faster with the right setting07:17
Frank81Alegreya: good point but i am far behind that ^^07:17
Alegreyapython -m SimpleHTTPServer 8080 Serving HTTP on 0.0.0.0 port 808007:17
Frank81i cant run such webservers with 5000 + hits per minut07:18
Frank81Alegreya and php has a httpd in too07:18
Frank81but realy thx for the nice trys07:18
auronandaceFrank81: openbsd are in the process of replacing apache with nginx in their base system, if its good enough for openbsd then maybe your assessment of nginx needs to be re-evaluated07:18
Frank81auronand nope they simply make it simply07:19
Frank81i benchmarked the whole last week07:19
Alegreyahttp://www.howtoforge.com/installing-lighttpd-with-php5-php-fpm-and-mysql-support-on-ubuntu-13.0407:19
Alegreyayou have been reading this?07:19
Frank81LightHTTPD Apache all versions and Configs ( Round about 15 usefull setups) nginx and even LiteSPEED httpd07:19
Frank81ya i am familary with that07:20
Frank81but any how i messed some stuff up07:20
aeon-ltdFrank81: are you running mysql while trying to remove it?07:20
Frank81maybe i need to reinstall whole server07:20
Frank81aeon-ltd: good point stoped it now but still same fail07:21
Frank81i repaired the repositorys so i now simply need to get it done to install the original packeges over the debian once07:21
Sazpaimoncan anyone please confirm if the latest bcmwl drivers support the new 802.11ac cards?07:23
Frank81i need to get it out of the management07:23
Frank81thats the solution but i don't know how07:23
kidxI need help07:26
lenzHey guys! I'd like to install a linux-based OS on a piece of hardware that I have here.. It's a JayBook 9901 (one of those tiny chinese netbooks) and it has a VIA M8505 processor, which is ARM-based. How do I find out which debian image I should download?07:26
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kidxSteam keeps saying the driver needs to be updated i am on the latest07:27
auronandace!arm | lenz07:27
ubottulenz: ARM is a specific (RISC) processor architecture used in a variety of applications such as handhelds and networkdevices. For more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM . For ARM specific support, stop by the #ubuntu-arm channel.07:27
kidxhow do i get the latest ati experimental07:27
xyzhi07:27
Evahello, I have installed 13.04 and use two screens. I did set up put compiz plugin to enable window viewport switching via keyboard. When I start a gnome-terminal, open a new tab and then switch workspace, the gnome-terminal window is moved to my primary screen (remaining in the same workspace). Anyone experience something like this ?07:27
aeon-ltdkidx: like this? http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Quantal_Installation_Guide#Installing_Catalyst_Manually_.28from_AMD.2FATI.27s_site.29_BETA.2FEXPERIMENTAL07:29
Taeklenz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM#How_do_I_install_Ubuntu_on_my_device07:30
aeon-ltdkidx: or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve#AMD.2BAC8-ATI_Graphics07:30
dayMy onboard soundcard is a ALC889A and im having trouble with my mic. Its very quiet(already checked alsamixer etc..) and i get small random soundfragments (clicking,shirping etc.). Ive a similar problem with windows, if i use the build in drivers. I guess the linux driver has a similar bug :/07:30
kidxdoes tefanclub ubuntu installer work here07:30
kidxhttp://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/ubuntu-amd-catalyst-install07:31
kidxdoes that work on 12.0407:32
kidxand will it work for me i need somthing simple07:32
dr_willisits not officially  supported do we dont know07:32
dr_willisthe  addational-driver tool is the standard way07:33
kidxyea but i am not geting the latest drivers07:33
Taekkidx you can grab the Official driver from amd directly, I've just done it myself not to long ago07:33
dr_willis!latest07:33
ubottuPackages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.07:33
kidxit will work for steam and stuff there07:33
kidxwhat i get the beta07:34
TaekI was just playing TF2 about 10/15 minutes ago kidx07:34
kidxyea what drivers07:34
Taekusing the latest beta driver for my setup07:34
kidxbeta or no07:34
kidxok07:34
kidxill dl beta from amd07:34
TaekPlease make sure to obtain the latest official driver from amd for your hardware.07:35
TaekOnce you download it chmod +x file.run07:35
Taekdouble click on the file and select run in terminal07:35
kidxi am getting beta 13.6 is this correct07:36
Taekdepends on your device kidz07:36
Taekis it a desktop or laptop kidx07:37
ikoniakidx: why are you not using the versions provided by ubuntus package manager ?07:37
kidxcasue it not updating correctly07:38
ikoniaupdating what ?07:38
kidxand i was told to go to amd site to get the updated one07:38
kidxmy drivers07:39
ikoniakidx: why ?07:39
ikoniawhat's wrong with the version in the ubuntu packages ?07:39
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kidxi am just gon install it form amd07:39
ikoniawhy ?07:39
ikoniait has more risk/maintenance07:39
kidxi just told you the additional driver manager is not updatig my drivers to the laters grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr07:39
TaekWell for me ikonia, there's four options in the additional driver app, and neither one stats which version they are.07:39
ikoniakidx: why do you want the latest ?07:40
ikoniakidx: what's wrong with the version in the repo07:40
TaekOutdated maybe?07:40
kidxcasue steam is asking for it07:40
kidxlol07:40
kidxkeeps asking to update07:40
ikoniaoutdated ?? what does that even mean07:40
kidxask steam07:40
ikoniakidx: what is steam asking for exactly07:40
Taekasking to update the video card driver.07:41
kidxto update my graphic drivers07:41
kidxlol07:41
TaekI just went thjrough it myself07:41
Equinox3some water to create steam?07:41
ikoniakidx: does it say a specific version, or does it say there is a problem ?07:41
kidxi am getting the amd driver from the site07:41
TaekIt states a speciofic version07:41
ikoniaEquinox3: not helpful07:41
ikoniaTaek: is that version later than the version ubuntu packages provide07:41
kidxwhy cant i just get beta 13.607:41
ikoniakidx: what's stopping you ?07:42
kidxhow do i check07:42
ikoniacheck what ?07:42
devmedooohow can i boot ubuntu install from iso in windows 7???07:42
TaekI never checked the package manager, just used the additional driver app07:42
Equinox3kidx, where did you install steam from07:42
ikoniaTaek: does that not list the version it's installing ?07:42
Taekand since that doesn't diosplay a version for each driver (4 listed) I went the save way07:42
Taeksafe*07:42
kidxfrom a file called a deb07:42
ikoniaTaek: are you running 13.04 ?07:42
TaekNo07:42
ikoniaTaek: 12.04 ?07:42
Taek12.0407:42
kidxfrom a site called steampowered07:42
kidxyes 12.0407:43
ikoniaTaek: be worth logging a bug for an LTS release to get the package updated to a compatible version if it's too old07:43
Frank81is there a way to make a package unregonized by the package manager07:43
ikoniaFrank81: what do you mean ?07:43
Frank81ikonia used the package manager installed something07:43
TaekI just went to amd's website and downloaded and installed myself ikonia07:43
Frank81now packagemanager should think its not installed07:43
Frank81thats it07:43
ikoniaFrank81: that's just foolish, if you used the package manager to install it, it will of course know it's installed (and should do, or it would be a bug)07:44
Frank81args07:44
Frank81i know what i am asking thx for trying07:44
ikoniaFrank81: why don't you explain the problem, it may be clearer then07:44
Taekkidx do you know what your videocard is?07:44
Frank81ikonia07:44
devmedooohow can i install ubuntu from iso ( internal harddesk )07:44
kidxyes07:45
Frank81i made a 100% clear question07:45
kidxHD577007:45
Taekdesktop?07:45
Frank81it is foolish to re discuse why i ask that07:45
Frank81but thx07:45
ikoniaFrank81: yes, and it's a foolish thing to request, to use the package manager to install software but not track that it's installed - that's the point of the package manager07:45
devmedooohow can i install ubuntu from iso ( internal harddisk )07:45
Frank81ikonia a package manager is software07:45
Frank81software has fails07:45
Frank81so i need to fix the fails07:45
Taekkidx it's a desktop right?07:45
ikoniaFrank81: hang on, so you are saying it's installed something and it DOESN'T think it's installed07:46
farbodjoin #xbox07:46
Frank81nope07:46
wilee-nileedevmedooo, Do you have a linux install with grub now?07:46
Frank81that would be the goal07:46
Frank81to fix the problem07:46
ikoniaFrank81: that is not a bug07:46
farbodjoin /#xbox07:46
ikoniaFrank81: that is how it's expected to work07:46
kidxyes07:46
kidxdesktop07:46
ikoniaFrank81: if you install software via the package manager, the package manager has to track it07:46
Frank81ya07:46
Frank81and now he installed wrong software07:46
Frank81wrong depends and all that07:46
Frank81and now that needs to get fixed07:47
Taekkidx -> http://is.gd/8wN0A107:47
Frank81the way to fix that is install the right packages again07:47
ikoniaFrank81: ok, so a package has the wrong depencies ?07:47
Frank81over the existing once07:47
ikoniadependencies even07:47
kidxall i know is the aditional driver is not installing the upto date driver07:47
Frank81THE SOLUTION is making itĀ“+07:47
Frank81sorry i can't talk about it07:47
Frank81makes me too angry07:47
ikoniaFrank81: you can't talk about it ???07:47
Taekkidx the link for the latest of your card driver is at this link -> http://is.gd/8wN0A107:47
ikoniaFrank81: how can we help you then ?07:47
devmedooowilee-nilee , what ? i don't know what is grub , the ubuntu version is 13.04 and i want make boot from iso file & along side windows 707:47
Frank81ya else i punch my walls and break my heands07:47
Frank81hands and so on07:47
ikoniaFrank81: is this on ubuntu or debian ?07:48
Frank81ubuntu07:48
ikoniaFrank81: then why are you asking in #debian ?07:48
Frank81 coz ubuntu is debian based and here is no one that knows what i whant07:48
ikoniaFrank81: explain the problem, I'm sure it can be fixed,07:48
devmedooowilee-nile : here??07:48
Frank81ikonia i am sure too07:49
Frank81the problem is that i need to install the right package07:49
ikoniaFrank81: what you want doesn't sound like a solution, but if you explain the problem, I'm sure it's not a problem to fix it07:49
Frank81but there is a wrong07:49
Frank81that can't be removed07:49
devmedooowilee-nilee...07:49
ikoniaFrank81: what's the software package ?07:49
ikoniaFrank81: lets take a look07:49
Frank81lol mysql-server-5.507:49
wilee-nileedevmedooo, you need it on a dvd or a usb then07:49
ikonia!info mysql-server07:49
ubottumysql-server (source: mysql-5.5): MySQL database server (metapackage depending on the latest version). In component main, is optional. Version 5.5.31-0ubuntu0.13.04.1 (raring), package size 11 kB, installed size 114 kB07:49
ikoniaFrank81: ok, so what version of ubuntu is this ?07:50
Frank81raring07:50
Frank81and the package manager is the same07:50
mohawkis it normal after install to have under "other devices" 151 Gb block device /dev/mapper/ubuntu-vg-root & 8.5 block device /dev/mapper/ubuntu-vg-swap_1 ?07:50
Frank81it don't matters07:50
ikoniaFrank81: what ?07:50
ikoniaFrank81: same as what ?07:50
* Taek afk mode07:50
Frank81ikonia thx for trying to help me07:50
devmedooocan't i make it from hardware disk? + i tried make with the integrated wubi and i have error : " The request is not supported. "07:51
ikoniaFrank81: hang on - just give me the info07:51
Frank81but i know you can't solve that07:51
ikoniawhat ???07:51
Frank81i am not as unskilled as you think07:51
ikoniayou've not given me any info,07:51
LanserHey guys, I am installing Ubuntu thru a LiveUSB, and I am using unetbootin, but it's stuck at 15%, at filesystem.squashfs? Is 'ufw' blocking something?07:51
Frank81and the ways you try to ask makes me knowing that07:51
ikoniaFrank81: what ???? I'm asking for the information to help you07:51
Frank81but you can't07:51
Lionthinkerhi everyone, can someone help me with Ubuntu One? I'm having problems07:51
Frank81the right info would be a file path07:51
kidxnow this is saying a previous driver was installed when i uninstalled it07:51
ActionParsnipLanser: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?07:51
Frank81where he writes down the package infos07:51
ikoniaFrank81: no-one can help you unless you give me the information07:52
Frank81of the installed packages07:52
Frank81nothing else07:52
guest120280954what is the name of the ntfs scan disk tool with ntfsprogs. need to lift some pics with a live disc but puter wasnt shut down right07:52
LanserActionParsnip: How can I do that?07:52
kidxnow i am stuck07:52
ActionParsnip!md5 | Lanser07:52
ubottuLanser: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows07:52
kidxwish this would work07:52
ActionParsnipLanser: how did you know that the file you used was consistent and complete?07:52
tracekillHuh. First time I've actually had Ubuntu not be able to find my wireless adapter (Intel).07:52
devmedoooi have a problem installing ubuntu i hope any supporter interseted help me........07:52
ActionParsnipdevmedooo: just ask07:52
Frank81or a command to make it simply not manage the package anymore07:52
ikoniaFrank81: just explain the problem07:52
ikoniaFrank81: the package manager will NOT ignore a package07:53
devmedoooi tried install ubuntu 13.04 with the integrated wubi and i have error : " The request is not supported. "07:53
LanserActionParsnip: I torrented it.07:53
ikoniaFrank81: so if you give us the info, I'm sure we can fix it07:53
Frank81ikonia then re install is the way i need to go07:53
Frank81but i think the package manger simply writes a file07:53
kidxi cant get the video drivers installed07:53
Frank81thats it07:53
ikoniaFrank81: so the package is mysql-server07:53
Frank81but ok then i simply start my migration to aws07:53
devmedoooActionParsnip:i tried install ubuntu 13.04 with the integrated wubi and i have error : " The request is not supported. "07:53
ikoniaFrank81: you're running ubuntu 13.04, correct ?07:54
Frank81and re install whole stack07:54
Frank81ikonia ya i was running that07:54
Lionthinkeranyone know things about Ubuntu sync function?07:54
ikoniaFrank81: are you not running it now ?07:54
ikoniaFrank81: what are you running now ?07:54
Frank81but now i think for a other linux maybe07:54
kidxi tried to installl the latest driver but i cant get them to install07:54
ikoniaFrank81: fine, ok, we can't help you, you don't want to give informaiton07:54
Frank81ubuntu is good for desktop07:54
ikoniaFrank81: please stop asking for help unless you are willing to give the information you are being asked for07:54
ActionParsnipLanser: still worth checking, torents have good checking :). You could try updating the installer app in the live cd to see if it helps07:54
Frank81ikonia no problem07:54
devmedooohey , 2 supporters not answering me , plzz07:55
dr_willisi thought wubi was dropped in 13.0407:55
Frank81i am not going to ask anything about that anymore07:55
LanserFrank81: Why are you being dramatic over support channels?07:55
Equinox3devmedooo: whats the prob07:55
Lanserikonia: He's trolling.07:55
devmedoooi tried install ubuntu 13.04 with the integrated wubi and i have error : " The request is not supported. "07:55
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kidxcan any one help me at all07:55
Frank81Lanser coz i sayed the problem here07:55
Frank81even made a pastbin07:55
Equinox3from an iso?07:55
Lanserapply your question, kidx07:55
ikoniaLanser: let it go, he's been told not to ask for help unless he's willing to give info07:55
wilee-nilee!patience > devmedooo07:55
ubottudevmedooo, please see my private message07:55
Equinox3did you extract that iso07:55
ikoniahe wo'nt give info - so won't be allowed to discuss it07:55
devmedooook wilee-niee07:56
devmedooonilee^07:56
kidxI cant get the latest driver working i tried to do it manually but it tells me another driver is installed?07:56
devmedooonow wubi.exe is in iso file07:56
wilee-nileedevmedooo, Do you have to install a wubi, it is basically not supported and can be troublesome.07:56
Equinox3right so you have to either the whole iso file to a folder07:56
Equinox3or use something like unetbootin to mount iso to a flash drive07:57
devmedoooso , how can i reun ubuntu alongside ( without losing ) windows 7?07:57
dr_williskidx:  remove any other fglrx drivers from the repos first07:57
devmedooorun^07:57
kidxhow do i dothis07:57
kidxi am fairly new07:57
kidxwelll to ubuntu07:57
Equinox3devmedooo: get unetbootin, and a 8gb flash drive. use unetbootin to make a bootable iso07:57
dr_williskidx with the addational-drivers tool07:57
wilee-nileedevmedooo, Make a dvd or usb with the ISO, use the windows disk manager to resize it leaving a unallocated space and install ubuntu there from the booted media07:58
kidxalready did this07:58
Taekkidx open dash home and type additional07:58
Equinox3then boot into ubuntu live, and start installation with side by side option07:58
kidxshow none installed07:58
devmedooohow wilee-nilee??07:58
dr_williskidx:  did you reboot?07:58
kidxyup07:58
dr_willisno idea then07:58
Equinox3devmedooo: search for unetbootin07:58
Taekdoes it show any drivers in the additional drivers app kidx?07:59
wilee-nileedevmedooo, I just said how I'm not sure I can be more clear, you might look for more info to get orientated.07:59
kidxhow do i look for that07:59
devmedoooEquinox3: My Flash Drive Is Bootable with win8 , so i can't add ubuntu.... , is there a way i boot ubuntu from iso file ?07:59
Taekopen the additional drivers app07:59
Taekdash home -> Additional Drivers08:00
kidxall i see is three things there08:00
Lionthinkerhi, I have a sync problem for Ubuntu one?08:00
Equinox3devmedooo: you can't boot from an iso file08:00
Taekclick on each one until the [Activate] button turns to deactivate, then click on the button08:00
kidxI tried to install the experimental and nothing its out dated casue steam asks for it to be updated08:00
kidxthey are all deactivated08:01
Equinox3you can create win8 bootable usb later, if you want to run ubuntu you'll have to format it and mount the iso on it08:01
Lionthinkerubuntu one, sync problem files don't correlate08:01
daywhats exactly the difference between ac'97 and high definition audio? It looks like realtek provides both for the ALC889A08:01
TaekNot sure then kidx08:01
kidxill try again08:01
Equinox3devmedooo: or burn a cd with the iso08:01
Taekkidx: Unless you manually installed one prior08:01
devmedoooequinox3 : with any program?08:02
Equinox3yes, like poweriso08:02
kidxok is the driver on the site upto date08:02
TaekOn the website, yes08:02
kidxthe additional app is not working right drivers are out dated for me08:02
kidxill reboot now and try again08:02
TaekOkay08:03
wilee-nileeEquinox3, ubuntu wont fit on a cd08:05
Equinox3wilee-nilee: ah right. DVD :P08:06
wilee-nilee;)08:06
LionthinkerCan someone help me with sync problems of Ubuntu one08:06
dr_willisLionthinker:  there is the #ubuntu-one channel    i belive08:07
TaekI don't use Ubuntu One - I have my own storage system08:07
stubday: On my motherboard, I select which API the onboard sound uses in the BIOS.08:07
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daystub: oh boy...that might change everything.... i didnt know thats possible :/ i just thought soundcard needs a specific driver done08:08
Lionthinkerdr_willis, there's no one there08:09
TaekLionthinker: Sure there is08:10
Lionthinkertaek help..08:11
TaekIs there a channel for skype08:11
TaekLionthinker: I don't use Ubuntu One - I have my own system I use.08:11
Equinox3should be08:11
TaekWhich is not fully implemented yet.08:11
ActionParsnipTaek: if you are having issues in skype under ubuntu you can ask here08:12
LanserTaek: what is wrong with skype?08:12
TaekSkype sucks.08:12
ActionParsnipLanser: everything :)08:12
dr_willisother then the fact MS owns it now?08:12
LanserActionParsnip: oh you08:12
TaekAnyhow, any possible way to hide offline users?08:12
Lanserdr_willis: oh yes.08:12
TaekIn the skype contact list that is.08:12
Lanserdr_willis: also, M$ has ganged up with NSA so I wouldn't recommend anyone to use Skype.08:12
ActionParsnipTaek: http://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Hide-Offline-Contacts/td-p/6792008:12
Equinox3lol Taek, skype doesn't work on mine. some ia32-lib dependencies cannot be installed08:12
TaekActionParsnip: that's why I opted to run 32bit :D08:13
ActionParsnipTaek: www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJMs4RhrEls08:13
Lanser32bit>64bt, Taek.08:13
ActionParsnipTaek: the 64bit releases are multiarch so it will install, just uses a lot of extra space08:13
Equinox3why is that Lanser?08:13
LanserEquinox3, I'll have Google explain that to you.08:13
ikoniaLanser: no don't08:13
ActionParsnipTaek: http://portal2portal.blogspot.co.uk/2010/10/skype-on-linux-hiding-off-line-contacts.html08:13
ikoniaLanser: you explain it08:13
ActionParsnipTaek: guess how I am findingall these links.....08:14
Equinox332 bits cannot compile kernels as far as i remember08:14
dr_willisEquinox3:  huh?08:14
Equinox3not that i'm compiling.08:14
Lanserwho cares, we have our own opinions.08:14
ActionParsnipEquinox3: what?08:14
ikoniaEquinox3: it can compile 32bit software, sure08:14
ikoniaLanser: right - so please keep your random ones out08:15
Lanseroh alright, ikonia.08:15
ActionParsnipEquinox3: how do you think the devs make the ubuntu 32bit kernel for updates?08:15
ikoniaEquinox3: why are you compiling kernels ?08:15
ikoniaEquinox3: is there a problem with the one ubuntu provides for you ?08:15
ActionParsnipPeople got some weird ideas08:16
TaekActionParsnip: none of those work08:17
Taekthat last one worked!08:18
TaekCtrl+u while the contacts list is active08:18
ActionParsnipTaek: again, guess how I was finding those links..?08:19
LanserActionParsnip: What are your thoughts on rape? Should people teach men NOT to rape? or should women protect themselves?08:19
Equinox3duckduckgo?08:19
ActionParsnipEquinox3: not this time :)08:19
ActionParsnipLanser: that is offtopic here08:19
Lansercome to #ubuntu-offtopic08:19
TaekActionParsnip: I did a google search everything I found didn't work, I didn't see that link08:20
ActionParsnipTaek: search for 'skype hide offline users'08:20
TaekI didn't want a bunch of mac and windows threads appearing08:21
TaekI search for "hide offline contacts for skype in linux"08:21
Taeknet some good ones, but none of those worked08:21
daystub: hm apparently the ac'97 vs hd audio bios setting is just for the fronpanel (they use different connectors, depending on what you want to use)08:32
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dorudI'm wondering what is Quasi? (http://www.quasinetwork.com/quasi-vs-vpn/), I've read the page but could not understand what is, can anybody illustrate it? (it's non-free an supports linux 'n windows)08:43
x98hi there i was told here to upgrage to 12.04.1 lts to fix my cpu fan error but it hasn't worked08:47
dorudIs it a proxy app as in Ultrasurf, freegate, Tor, YourFreedom, etc?08:48
x98my laptop now has overheated08:50
dorudx98: what is your laptop graphic card?08:51
x98i don't know much but it is a standard sis one08:52
newky_Hi. I am trying to copy a large video file from my computer to my phone (attached via a USB cable and mounted as an external drive). I copy and paste the file to the drive and it copies all the way up to the last megabyte or so and then it hangs indefinitely. I've tried everything at my disposal to fix this problem. Pleas ehelp.08:52
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dorud$ sudo lshw -class video08:52
blazemorenewky_: How long does "indefinitely" mean?08:52
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newky_forever, theoretically08:53
NeoKarnanewky_,  same problem here.08:53
blazemorenewky_: I mean, how long did you leave it?08:53
newky_in the past I have left files copying for hours and nothing changed.08:53
NeoKarnanewky_,  it is  related to permissions.08:53
newky_and the rest of the file copies over in a few seconds. These are around 100 megabytes ish08:53
dorudx98: run this command and paste its output to www.paste.ubuntu.com: sudo lshw -class video08:53
newky_ah, so I have to run Nautilus as root?08:54
newky_I should mention, I'm using the MATE desktop if that08:54
newky_If that's relevant information08:54
dorudnewky_: try cp in command line08:54
newky_will that show an error?08:55
blazemorenewky_: If you're using the mate desktop, you might be using nemo, not nautilus08:55
vedicHey guys, I am trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 64bit ISO using unetbootin to my server. I see the UNetbooin menu and tried the default option. It select country, detects keyboard but after that asks for CD. I don't have CD drive working. How to ensure Unetbootin installs from USB stick?08:55
newky_I want a solution that doesn't involve using the command line.08:55
blazemorenewky_: Oh OK. Good luck then :)08:55
newky_Also, I checked. It's definitely nautilus. Does mainline Ubuntu still use Nautilus08:55
blazemoreyes08:56
newky_okay, let me rephrase that08:56
newky_I'm okay with using the command line to FIX the problem08:56
blazemoreAhh OK08:56
blazemoreYou don't want to have to use the command line forever to copy files to your phone08:56
newky_I just don't want it to be the only way I can copy files to my phone from here on out08:56
blazemoreYeah I get you :)08:56
newky_exactly08:56
newky_until now, I've just been booting into Win7 to copy things08:56
blazemoreIt might be worth using the command line to try copying the file first, to see if it works08:56
newky_and I'm getting really tired of it08:56
NeoKarnanewky_,  try using nautilus as blazemore  said right now. Because using nautilus didn't work for me.08:57
blazemoreUnderstandable08:57
dorudnewky_: the video file size?08:57
newky_I've been using nautilus08:57
newky_uh, let's see here, dorud08:57
newky_428 MBs.08:57
newky_but it happens with smaller videos too08:57
newky_last video was 184 MBs08:58
dorudthis is not a large file08:58
newky_indeed08:58
newky_like I said, it copies over and then it hangs on the last megabyte or so08:58
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newky_and the copying window just sits there08:58
Reckuhello!08:58
blazemorenewky_: It'd definitely be useful to try using the "cp" program from the command line. Do you know how to do that?08:59
newky_yep08:59
NeoKarnanewky_,  please try copying using nautilus right now. See if that works.08:59
dorudplease try cp, if it works, it's nautilus problem, if not, it's a system problem!08:59
newky_hang on a minute08:59
blazemoreOK well try it, and see what happens08:59
newky_NeoKarna: I already used nautilus. The problem is happening when I use Nautilus.08:59
blazemoreIt's more a matter of, it probably will do the same thing, but might give an error08:59
newky_right, troubleshooting09:00
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NeoKarnanewky_,  I had the very same problem too ! I searched like hell on the internet but no results ! Try using cp as blazemore  suggests09:00
newky_okay, working on it09:01
dorudnewky_: 1. test it by cp 2. run nautilus and copy it normally, view the terminal output09:01
newky_I just noticed a new problem09:01
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newky_I was trying to copy a text file from my desktop to my phone, but it won't let me copy from my desktop at all09:01
dorud*2. run nautilus from terminal ...09:01
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newky_well, nevermind, different problem09:01
newky_okay yeah09:02
ReckuCan I force override to usb modem's integrated memory so I can put inside09:02
Reckuthe ubuntu's driver package (the modem is MW-U3500 - WiMax) - to avoid moving additional flash drive with me every time I'm trying to use the modem on Ubuntu Machine09:02
newky_this only seems to affect the larger movie files. The text file copied fine09:03
newky_anyway, trying the cp command now09:03
dorudnewky_: and also try running nautilus from terminal; report here09:04
newky_dorud: gotcha09:04
newky_cp command seems to be working09:05
newky_it's still copying09:05
newky_taking a while to copy, that's worrying09:05
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newky_nope, still hanging on the last MB. Same problem09:06
Reckunewky, do you have write permissions09:07
newky_correction09:07
dorudnewky_: what is your phone? what is its system file? may you check the video permissions?09:07
newky_it seems to have copied the whole file, but it will not play09:07
newky_write permissions for what?09:07
Reckufor phone device09:07
newky_I have a Droid Razr09:07
dorudboth for phon and the file09:07
newky_file system is FAT09:07
newky_I'm guessing FAT32?09:08
dorudthe video file permission?09:08
newky_wouldn't that throw some kind of "nope, wrong permissions" error?09:08
newky_read and write for me09:09
NeoKarnanewky_, yeah !09:09
newky_but it says read only for the "group permissions". I'm a noob with permissions.09:09
Reckugroup doesn't matters when your user have full permissions09:09
ReckuI suppose it has09:09
newky_okay09:10
newky_I have a feeling it's not a permission error. I just feel like it'd give an error before it even copied the file09:10
dorudbe sure it's not excutable.09:10
newky_by the way, cp sort of worked, but it hung too. It seems to have copied the whole file, judging by the file size, but the file I copied to my phone is unreadable09:11
Reckucan you try to make an empty file in the phone09:11
newky_unplayable rather09:11
newky_I copied a text file to it earlier. This is only happening with the video files09:11
Reckutry with 'touch test.txt'09:11
snugglisnt it just the usb write-ahead that takes a while to write all bytes?09:11
newky_it worked09:12
snugglhow long did you wait?09:12
newky_I can create files on the drive09:12
newky_In the past when I've had this problem, I have waited hours and hours and it didn't finish. It should only take a few seconds to copy a file of this size.09:12
Reckuwhat's the size of the video file09:12
dorudnewky_: for the current time, zip the video and copy it on your droid phone, extract it.09:12
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snugglnewky_: add the sync option to fstab can solve it09:12
newky_Recku: 428 MB09:13
snugglnewky_: then it will behave like windows, including the corruption on fail =)09:13
newky_dorud: I will try that09:13
Reckudo you have smaller file to check if it works09:13
newky_snuggl: why would I want that? :P09:13
snugglnewky_: windows is set to write in real time, so the copy process is in sync with what you see in your UI09:14
fishcookeri have ubuntu 10.04 netbook version09:14
snugglthen you will see the actual end time of the copy, not just when the OS has queued the writes.09:14
Reckusnuggl is right09:15
NeoKarnanewky_,  please post your question in askubuntu too. This is a common problem. Ubuntu is not so good with phones I guess.09:15
dorudnewky_: I think it's a mounting problem! may mount it manually somewhere else?!09:15
fishcookerhow to strip down the size .. because i want to modify the from gui to commandline only09:15
dorud*may you09:15
snugglfishcooker: use apt-get to remove the packages you dont want09:15
newky_hm, Perhaps I should just take the SD card out of my phone and put it into my machines card reader...09:15
snugglor the software GUI thingie09:15
fishcookeresp the gui one snuggl09:16
NeoKarnanewky_,  I used a different phone to do the job but that didn't work for me. Hope it works for you !09:16
fishcookerany pointer?09:16
snugglfishcooker: any pointer for what?09:16
snugglfishcooker: just remove the ones you dont want09:16
fishcookerthe package?09:16
newky_also, I zipped the file and tried to copy it. Same problem, except it's hanging much earlier. at 386 MBs ouot of 42709:16
snugglfishcooker: remove _all_ packages you dont want09:17
fishcookerTT09:17
snugglfishcooker: all the graphical ones09:17
Reckunewky, how do you mount the phone09:17
snugglfishcooker: start with X and see what goes with it09:17
fishcookerthat's it snuggl09:17
newky_whoa. Seems to have resolved. I think that might have worked09:17
newky_still no reason it shoudl take tha tlong09:17
fishcookeri just want to make sure it will be safe snuggl and fast09:18
snugglnewky_: check dmesg for errors09:18
snugglthat slow might be the USB controller dropping to 1.009:18
newky_Recku: I just plug the phone into my computer with a cable and let it automount09:18
snuggljust type "dmesg" in a console09:18
snuggland look for suspicious USB things09:18
newky_snuggl: no, it's not. It copies the rest of the file at normal speed and then it hangs at a certain point close to the end.09:18
ReckuMTP doesn't allow to write just as that easily09:18
Reckuyour phone is with android right?09:19
snugglnewky_: thats no reason not to check the error log09:19
newky_Droid Razr09:19
newky_Recku: yes09:19
supermanis there software that allows you to copy contacts from your android phone?09:19
newky_snuggl: I was saying that at your suggestion that it might be dropping to USB 109:19
Reckuso you have to use google's development of MTP client just wait for a while to find it out09:20
newky_ah, what does that mean?09:20
dr_willisyou can export your contacts to a file on android.09:20
xmetalhmm09:21
nonohow can i search expressions like {P} on google? or other searche engines?09:21
dr_willisi use airdroid on my android phones. faster for me than a  usb csble09:21
Reckunewky, try gMTP it works with earlier versions of android as I don't know which is used in your situations09:22
Recku*situation09:22
newky_I have android 4.1 on my phone09:22
newky_what exactly is gMTP and how do I use it?09:23
dr_willis!mtp09:23
newky_also, I tried to copy the file using nautilus running in root and it has the same problem09:23
dr_willisnewer android phones show up as mtp devices.09:23
supermanis the min specs for Ubuntu 1GHz and 1GB of RAM?09:23
dr_willismtp support is still a bit of a  work in progress for linux09:24
newky_ah, okay09:24
newky_out of curiosity and scholarly interest, what exactly is MTP?09:24
dr_williseasiest way to get files to/from your android device is to install airdroid on the android device and use the wireless networking and your local network router.09:24
Hejkki_media transfer protocol09:24
dr_willissomthing transport protacal09:24
dr_willis;)09:24
newky_mobile?09:25
ReckugMTP is a client for transferring file between your PC and Phone's, tablet's or whatsoever MTP device09:25
dr_willislook itup on wikipedia perhaps?09:25
newky_Must be somewhere on the USB stack.09:25
dr_willis;)09:25
supermanin the past Linux users use to call Windows XP bloated even though it could run on a Pentium 2 lol09:25
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newky_Ah, I remember the days when XP was bloated. It's a fairly lightweight system on todays computers!09:26
newky_anyway, I'll try that09:26
newky_if that doesn't work, then I guess I'll just take the SD card out and put it in my PC.09:26
dr_willisXP is still bloated.09:26
dr_willisnewky_:  or try airdroid like i suggested09:27
dr_willisUSB cable transfers seem to suck whenever i try them09:27
newky_I'll look into it. Thanks for the idea.09:27
newky_anywho. Thanks for your help everyone09:27
Reckudr_willis there is a google's project for easier transfer to mtp based memory09:28
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dr_willisRecku:  i havent even been trying to use mtp since ive started using airdroid. ;)09:28
Reckuand all you have to do with their client is to mount the device and then just use nautilus but i forgot the name09:28
dr_willistheres scripts out to mount mtp devices and so forth..  but i dont bother with them any moar.09:29
Reckuok here it is09:30
ReckuGo-mtpfs09:30
newky_what's that?09:30
dr_willisa gui tool for  mounting mtp devices09:30
Reckunewky, look up here http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/how-to-mount-android-40-ubuntu-go-mtpfs.html09:31
newky_thank you09:31
dr_willisthat guide is a little out of date. so may not be 100% accurate for the newer releases09:31
Hejkki_internet is out of date09:32
Hejkki_most of the information there09:32
dr_willisor if  you got a wireless router your phone and pc both connect to, theres dozens of ways to transfer stuff over wireless09:32
LanserLife is like a box of......rm -rf / commands.09:33
jpdsLanser: No.09:33
dr_willisthat command dosent really work any more  (as written) these days. ;P09:33
Reckuok guys I've question now :D09:34
ReckuIs there a way to force writing over write protected internal memory (it's about usb modem)09:34
dr_willisa USB 3g modem?09:34
Recku4g modem but yes simmilar09:34
Reckuthe model is mw-u350009:35
dr_willisif its physically write protected. i would doubt it09:35
ReckuAll I want is to insert linux driver package09:35
dr_willisit could also be presenting the storage as a cdrom device09:35
Reckuwith root privileges doesn't work09:35
Reckuyes that's how it presents it09:36
dr_willisthe u3 usb fllash drives used that trick ages ago..  they were specially partioned.09:36
Reckuone volume as Audio cd and other volume as USB storage09:37
sannehi09:38
Reckuso can I around that trick09:38
bhalashI hated those U3 pen drives with a passion.09:38
dr_willisi UN-U3'd many of them in the past09:38
bhalashI want to store data, not mess with hidden crapware. Aye, I did the same. Didn't stop people buying them though. :p09:38
sannehello09:39
sannehello09:39
dr_willismost people i knew dident even know what the u3 stuff was..09:39
bhalashThey started to figure out when the software autoran when they plugged it in. It was a good intro to Linux, actually. I showed them how to find and destroy the partition using fdisk and other tools.09:40
Reckudr_willis, how I can reformat the USB mass storage volume09:41
dr_willisRecku:  no idea. it may destroy it if you try09:41
dr_willisRecku:  see if fdisk can partion it...09:41
dr_willisif its physically write protected.. you may not even be able to fdisk it09:42
bhalashWhat does fdisk -l /dev/whatever say?09:42
Reckuwell I wouldn't lost anything the device will still works --- just without the windows driver :D09:42
Reckuinside the memory09:42
ReckuI've already tried with fdisk09:42
dr_willisRecku:  you are assuming fdisk wont destroy it.. it might..09:42
bhalashRecku09:42
bhalashPlug in the disk and do dmesg | grep Protect09:43
dr_willisif fdisk cant write to it. then i would say its got a physical switch on it.09:43
bhalashIt will let you know if it is write protected09:43
Reckuyes, bhalash09:43
bhalashYou can use hdparm to /maybe/ turn it off09:44
bhalashhdparm -r0 /dev/whatever09:44
Reckuhdparm or sdparm?09:44
bhalashsdparm or hdparm as appropriate :)09:45
Reckuok I'll check with that :)09:45
Aaruniis it just me, or is Ubuntu 12.04 64bit quite unstable ?09:46
bhalashI've had no problems whatsoever.09:46
bhalashWhat kind of instability?09:46
fox__Hello. I had some issues with 12.04 actually too.09:46
nonois anyone able to get any result for any search on this site? http://www.symbolhound.com/09:46
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k1l!ot | nono09:47
ubottunono: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!09:47
Aarunibhalash: it randomly hangs, and is somewhat slower than the 32bit version I have got running on another machine09:47
nonok1l: maybe it's an ubuntu issue, because apparently it's working fine on windows09:47
fox__Yeah.09:47
fox__okay, first off.. can anyone even read my text?09:48
Aarunifox__: yeah, you're visible09:48
fox__Thanks, I've been in and out of a few rooms and no one's replied at all.09:48
dr_willis  if we say no..  ;-)09:48
bhalashThat could be one of a host of problems. I had some driver problems early on (Nvidia Optimus) that caused hands, but it was eventually ironed out. Performance and stability has been fine for me since. Been using Ubuntu 64-bit for ~18 months now.09:48
BaribalHi. In the contexts of RAID, what is a degraded drive?09:49
bhalashWho is fox__? Did fox__ say something? I can't see.09:49
Aarunibhalash: I'm using on a new HP machine, radeon graphics.09:49
joseph_show entries to add solivitacap.org as virtual host to unbuntu 13.10 apache2...localhost show correct test page..trying to go to solivitacap.org times out.trying to reach my server09:49
dr_willisyou are running 13.10 on it?09:49
joseph_yes09:50
fox__I've had such a headache with 12.04 both 64bit and 32. Random hangs and apport going nuts apparently reporting it's self to it's self.09:50
bhalashAaruni, do you have a spare machine? Does the 64-bit machine keep locking?09:50
Aarunibhalash: I have another Dell, with 32bit on it, and no spare partition09:51
bhalashIt is a kernel-panic-oh-shit-reboot crash, or a silently-lock-up crash?09:51
jattrandom hangs->hardware problems most of the time09:51
Aarunibhalash: I think XORG crashes. because its working fine, and then suddenly, it stops working. I then need to pull the plug (or because its  a laptop, long press the power key)09:51
jattbad memory, overheating09:52
bhalashThat sounds like a driver problem. Interesting way to fix it: SSH in from another machine and see if the locked up machine responds.09:52
Aarunijatt: none of that. new laptop. barely a week old09:52
bhalashTest memory too09:52
bhalashhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash09:52
Aarunibhalash: that's a nice way to test it. but I will have to first install ssh server, right? sudo apt-get install sshd ?09:53
elihi09:53
bhalashapt-get install openssh-server09:53
fox__13.04 works better for me now. I just keep getting this message telling me a problem was detected.09:53
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Guest29840I'm new to linux09:53
Aaruniok, back after reboot, just installed some updates.09:53
Guest29840I have problem with gparted09:53
Guest29840anyone can help me?09:53
bhalashWhat's the problem, Guest29840?09:54
Guest29840I wanna create a logical partition09:54
Guest29840when I check the partitions in gparted09:54
bhalashAaruni, if you SSH in and the machine responds fine, it probably is a video driver issue. They are usually the culprit.09:55
Guest29840I get error icon near extended partition09:55
bhalashI wound up installing a SSH client on my iPhone while I was solving my own problem. :D09:55
joseph_need help adding virtual host domain solivitacap.org to ubuntu server 13.10 apache2 server09:56
bhalashGuest29840, Have you tried using fdisk directly?09:56
Guest29840I wanna use fdisk09:56
Guest29840but I think there is some warnings with extended partition09:57
bhalashWell. Can you do me a favour and run fdisk -l and drop the output into paste.ununtu.com?09:57
Guest29840yeah just a min09:57
blazemoreHow can I use head/tail to get all but the first line of a file?09:57
bhalashAll /but/ the first line?09:58
bhalashcat file | head | tail -n 909:58
blazemoreYes09:58
blazemoreerr no09:58
dr_williscat and tail have  options for that10:00
nibbler_blazemore: sed would be the tool of choice i believe10:00
dr_willislike Ā±110:00
Guest29840can I pm u bhalash?10:00
blazemoreGot it - tail -n+210:00
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nibbler_blazemore: sed '1d' < file10:02
blazemoreEven better nibbler_ :)10:03
joseph_need help adding virtual host domain solivitacap.org to ubuntu server 13.10 apache2 server10:03
blazemoreIs there a better way to add up the total space used across all filesystems than df | tail -n+2 | awk '{s+=$3} END {print s}'10:05
blazemoreI feel like there ought to be10:05
arun_my hardrives are not shown in terminals, what to do?10:11
arun_somone help me10:12
bhalasharun_ More information please.10:12
arun_my hard drive is not shown in terminals10:12
arun_im using xbuntu10:13
arun_i can access all my partitions10:13
auronandacearun_: what exactly are you doing to try to see your harddrives in the terminal?10:14
bhalash^10:14
arun_i want to give permission to other users10:15
arun_to access my partitions10:15
auronandace!fstab | arun_10:16
ubottuarun_: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions10:16
nibbler_arun: sudo fdisk -l10:16
arun_what will it do?10:16
bhalashIt will list your partitions10:16
arun_i want give permission to a user10:17
nibbler_blazemore: your solution to the df problem looks very good to me, i doubt there is anything better10:17
nibbler_blazemore: maybe df --total is better :p10:18
varunendraarun_, permissions are set on the mount points. To see the mount points, use the command : mount | grep '/dev/sd'10:19
vadraoHi all, I have two battery's. One built in and the other Slice battery. Ubuntu first drains the Slice battery which is ofcourse the default behavior. But after it drains the Slice battery, it says that battery has reached critical state and shutdowns the computer. It does not use the builtin battery. How can remedy this?10:20
varunendraarun_, it will show only those partitions that are mounted. If the desired partition is not mounted, you will need to mount it first (partitions included in fstab are automatically mounted at startup)10:20
arun_i cannot identify which are mounted10:20
arun_but i can access all of my drives10:21
bhalashcat /etc/mtab10:21
varunendraarun_, can you access the partitions (their contents) which you wish to grant permissions on?10:21
varunendraarun_, are you able to access them right now?10:21
arun_yes10:22
arun_varunendra, i wish to grant access to named new volume10:22
varunendraarun_, please give us the pastebin link to the output of : mount | grep '/dev/sd'10:23
arun_http://paste.ubuntu.com/5890340/10:23
arun_i will give wait10:23
arun_i think i gave, right10:24
blazemorenibbler_: derp10:24
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arun_varun, did u saw the link?10:25
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varunendraarun_, what kind of permissions do you wish to grant on that mount point?10:25
arun_i wish to give 2 partition to read write10:26
LucidDreamZzZzTHANK U VALVE!!10:26
arun_to all users10:26
LucidDreamZzZzfixed tf210:26
Hejkki_ 10:26
varunendraarun_, permanently? Means on every boot?10:27
arun_yes10:27
varunendra!fstab | arun_ then read the guide on fstab :10:28
ubottuarun_ then read the guide on fstab :: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions10:28
joshuhi if anyone is familiar with lightdm and ubuntu mini and has time to help me with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2163132 please let me know ;)10:29
varunendraarun_, basically, you need to add entries for these mount points/partitions in the /etc/fstab file, with appropriate permissions/masks. The guide will show you in detail how to do that.10:30
arun_thanks varun10:30
arun_thanks ubottu10:31
ActionParsnipjoshu: have you tried other DMs?10:31
varunendrano problem  ! :)10:31
joshuActionParsnip DMs?10:31
ActionParsnipjoshu: instead of lightdm.....10:32
ActionParsnipjoshu: gdm? xdm? slim?10:32
blazemoremdm \o/10:32
joshuActionParsnip I haven't tried no. I'm looking for help with the whole thing not just the DM whether it be lightdm or something else.10:33
SDISnot familiar soory10:34
SDISsorry10:34
blazemorejoshu: Keep lightdm installed, install  a super lightweight WM like Openbox. Let network manager handle your multiple connections and VPN.10:35
LucidDreamZzZzhaha someone saying linux is easier for noobs than ever10:35
ActionParsnipLucidDreamZzZz: it is, back in the day it was not so simple as it is now10:36
ActionParsnipLucidDreamZzZz: same with windows10:36
LucidDreamZzZzit just keeps getting more complex and bloaty10:36
ActionParsnipLucidDreamZzZz: bloat is nothing to do with ease of use10:36
ActionParsnipLucidDreamZzZz: is it?10:37
blazemoreIgnore him ActionParsnip10:37
ActionParsnipblazemore: I have time :)10:37
LucidDreamZzZz'back int he day' there was next step (macos x) running stabily on Redhat (free)10:37
blazemoreYou know why he's in here, I know why he's in here10:37
LucidDreamZzZzit was always easy10:37
ActionParsnipLucidDreamZzZz: for the average user, not so easy10:37
ActionParsnipLucidDreamZzZz: although, depends when your 'back in the day' is. I'm talking 2002/310:38
LucidDreamZzZzif redhat wasnt easy enough there was mandrake or debian10:38
LucidDreamZzZzjust saying how many ways are there now to start x?10:38
LucidDreamZzZzlol10:38
ActionParsnipLucidDreamZzZz: ever had to compile a kernel to make your CD burner work?10:38
ActionParsnipLucidDreamZzZz: cos I have10:39
LucidDreamZzZzanother point you make for me, i wouldnt spend time rolling my own kernel these days10:39
ActionParsnipLucidDreamZzZz: I'm sure thats super easy for teh guy on the street, right?10:39
LucidDreamZzZzits too damn complicated now10:39
ActionParsnipLucidDreamZzZz: you HAD to to make some hardware work10:39
blazemoreLucidDreamZzZz: I've seen desktop Linux improve leaps and bounds over the last 10 years in terms of hardware compatibility, usability, and general out-of-the-box experience10:39
LucidDreamZzZzi used to build gento stage 1 box or roll my opwn, whatever10:40
joshublazemore so starting with ubuntu mini is a good idea?10:40
vadraoHi all, I have two battery's. One built in and the other Slice battery. Ubuntu first drains the Slice battery which is ofcourse the default behavior. But after it drains the Slice battery, it says that battery has reached critical state and shutdowns the computer. It does not use the builtin battery. How can remedy this?10:40
LucidDreamZzZznow gentoo doesnt even offer stage 1 and nobody rolls their own unless they absoolutely have to10:40
blazemorevadrao: One thing to do would be to stop Ubuntu from shutting down / hibernating your computer on low battery. You can do this in power options10:41
LucidDreamZzZzthe only thing is yes hardware support is marginally better, nobody ever built without checking hardware compatibility list10:41
ActionParsnipLucidDreamZzZz: Gentoo stage1 instals arent supported now, or advised10:41
LucidDreamZzZzso thats a non-issue10:41
ActionParsnipLucidDreamZzZz: it was though, now its a whole tonne easier10:42
ActionParsnipLucidDreamZzZz: which you said is not the case and it was always easy.10:42
ActionParsnipLucidDreamZzZz: right>10:42
blazemoreLucidDreamZzZz: Do you have an Ubuntu related support question?10:43
LucidDreamZzZzthe other thing is there is a web browser that is stable, that was something that was lacking in Linux you almost had to use IE 4 to use the Internet10:43
ActionParsnipLucidDreamZzZz: you haven't answer my simple question10:43
LucidDreamZzZzand that is no lie10:43
ActionParsnipLucidDreamZzZz: or blazemore's10:43
LucidDreamZzZzyeah it hasnt gotten any simpler10:44
LucidDreamZzZzthat question?10:44
vadraoblazemore: In that case it shows this red empty battery on the top right hand corner. Simple things like this should be seemless10:44
ActionParsnipLucidDreamZzZz: but it really has, 'normal' users can install and use Ubuntu with minimal issue, lots of hardware works out of the box. I have given you examples of how this is the case10:45
blazemorevadrao: It's not particularly simple; a dual battery configuration can't necessarily be expected to work out the box. What specific model of laptop is it?10:45
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LucidDreamZzZzi mean really i still have to set up a xorg.conf????10:45
LucidDreamZzZzok whatever its easier now10:45
LucidDreamZzZz:)10:45
ActionParsnipLucidDreamZzZz: the kernel has come in leaps and bounds and companies are starting to make Linux drivers which were not around previously10:45
blazemoreLucidDreamZzZz: I haven't touched my xorg.conf for 3 years10:46
ActionParsnipLucidDreamZzZz: then your screen is not reporting EDID as it should, or is reporting it wrong10:46
vadraoblazemore: Its the latest Sony Vaio Duo 11 ultrabook which is a Slider10:46
LucidDreamZzZzkernel is (very) monolithic10:46
ActionParsnipLucidDreamZzZz: the screen should reports its access and udev will setup the screen on the fly, if your doesn't then xorg.conf is needed10:46
blazemorevadrao: Do you have a model number?10:46
blazemoreLucidDreamZzZz: You read that on the Internet somewhere and you are like "omg monolithic = bloat = A Bad Thing"10:47
vadraoYes10:47
ActionParsnipLucidDreamZzZz: I need one myself as my res goes insanely tiny with a very high DPI, so I have to setup the screen10:47
blazemoreLucidDreamZzZz: Do you know what it means for a kernel to be "monolithic"? It's not a derogatory term...10:47
vadraoblazemore: The model number is SVD1121C5EB10:47
LucidDreamZzZzsometimes i still need that file for monitor settings, xrandr having 3 totally different versions doesnt help much as i have no clue how to use them anymore as it melted my brain10:47
k1lLucidDreamZzZz: do you have an actual technical ubuntu issue? this is not the channel for general chatter (or ranting)10:47
LucidDreamZzZzik i was probably using monolithic duall meaning other menaing is large??10:48
LucidDreamZzZzthat could be wrong checking websters10:48
Gilligan94_how can i get wine 1.6?10:49
LucidDreamZzZzno not really i am just glad Ubuntu has steam and updated drivers, thank you!10:49
ActionParsnipLucidDreamZzZz: again, its your screen10:49
ikoniaGilligan94_: it's not in the stable ubuntu repos, you'd need to use a 3rd party repo - but use it at your own risk10:49
blazemorevadrao: I believe it's not currently supported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-power/+bug/88088110:49
ubottuUbuntu bug 880881 in indicator-power (Ubuntu) "Power indicator does not combine multiple battery status" [Medium,Triaged]10:49
ActionParsnipGilligan94_: try the wine ppa10:49
blazemorevadrao: But as a workaround, you can stop it from shutting itsself down10:49
blazemorevadrao: You might just have to live with the incorrect battery indicator :\10:49
Gilligan94_ActionParsnip: I have the wine ppa installed but for some reason it just installs 1.4.110:49
blazemoreGilligan94_: Is Wine 1.6 in the repository yet?10:50
Gilligan94_blazemore: not sure10:50
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blazemoreGilligan94_: It is... try running apt-get update first10:50
ActionParsnipGilligan94_: did you check the versiojn on the PPA?10:50
blazemoreGilligan94_: sudo apt-get install wine1.610:50
vadraoblazemore: Thanks for letting me know about that bug. I will check it out and it looks like I have to live with that until a solution is foun10:51
blazemoreGilligan94_: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=raring10:51
Aarunibhalash: back after update. my wi-fi driver broke, that took a long time to fix..10:51
ActionParsnipGilligan94_: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue10:51
Gilligan94_ActionParsnip: elementary OS Luna \n \l10:51
ActionParsnipGilligan94_: not supported here10:51
Gilligan94_blazemore: I have that PPA added10:52
ActionParsnipGilligan94_: this is ubuntu suport10:52
Gilligan94_I'm aware10:52
joshuI'm willing to pay for help if someone is interested in helping me with my custom ubuntu setup10:52
ActionParsnipGilligan94_: then why are you asking here10:52
k1lGilligan94_: then talk to the elementary support how to get wine 1.610:52
ikoniajoshu: don't need to pay, just ask and if people can help they will10:52
LucidDreamZzZzyes according to websters monolithic means HUGE or MASSIVE10:52
Aarunijoshu: lol ? I'll help you for free, if I can10:52
bhalashAaruni: Make sure you set up a SSH server too so you can still get in if it locks.10:52
k1l!ot | LucidDreamZzZz10:52
ubottuLucidDreamZzZz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!10:52
ActionParsnipGilligan94_: elementary support is entirely separate from Ubuntu's. Just like every other 'ubuntu based' distro you can name10:52
greyhatpythonhey guys i installed a game called Stunt Rally from Playdeb.net now i want to uninstall it since my onboard intel graphic Card is not supporting it. How to uninstall it?10:53
Aarunibhalash: doing that now10:53
ActionParsnipgreyhatpython: use software centre10:53
blazemoregreyhatpython: Open the Ubuntu Software Centre, search for Stunt Rally10:53
greyhatpythonThe Software Center is showing not found for that name.10:53
k1ljoshu: provide some details. no need for paying in here10:53
ActionParsnipgreyhatpython: playdeb is just another repo and installing from it and uninstalling apps from it is no different to the apps from the official repos10:53
ikoniaprobably because you installed it with dpkg -i10:53
joshuikonia Aaruni hi guys instead of putting everything here I posted on ubuntuforums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216313210:53
greyhatpythonYes but the ubuntu software center is not showing it10:54
bugtraqgood10:54
blazemoregreyhatpython: How did you install it?10:54
greyhatpythonI am sure it's in my system i don't know where to locate and how to uninstall10:54
blazemoregreyhatpython: How you uninstall it depends completely on how you installed it10:54
greyhatpythonI installed via ubuntu software center from the apt link i got from playdeb.net10:54
ActionParsnipgreyhatpython: if you run:  dpkg -l | egrep -i 'stunt|rally'    you will see the package name10:55
ikoniajoshu: you can do that with a standard ubuntu install and a startup script10:55
blazemoreDid you download a .deb file?10:55
blazemoregreyhatpython: ^10:55
hamedI have question about mpich2!10:55
blazemorejoshu: Your setup isn't nearly as complicated as you think it is. Network Manager handles your network config for you, and then you can just run an rdp client on startup after a short delay10:56
greyhatpythonOk i got this output : ii  stuntrally                                2.0-1~getdeb2~quantal                  i386         Rally game with stunt elements10:56
greyhatpythonii  stuntrally-data                           2.0-1~getdeb2~quantal                  all          Rally game with stunt elements (data package)10:56
greyhatpythonii  stuntrally-tracks                         2.0-1~getdeb1                          all          Rally game with stunt elements (tracks package)10:56
ikoniajoshu: looks pretty ill thought out though10:56
blazemore!ask | hamed what is your question?10:56
ubottuhamed what is your question?: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:56
ActionParsnipgreyhatpython: sudo apt-get --purge remove stuntrally stuntrally-data stuntrally-tracks10:56
Aarunijoshu: sorry, I can't help you there..10:56
joshuAaruni no worries thanks ;)10:57
greyhatpythonok i will try but explain me the command how you got it?10:57
hamedI install mpich2 and mpich3 on my system.  I have error symbol missing after run the my mpi program10:58
greyhatpythonok i got it it's the package name you said to remove10:58
joshuikonia how's it "ill thought out"? what would you do?10:58
ActionParsnipgreyhatpython: read your own output, then read the commadn I gave10:58
ikoniajoshu: bottom line, you can do what you want with a standard ubuntu install and some login / startup scripts10:59
greyhatpythonunderstood!!!!10:59
greyhatpythonThanks a lot ActionParsnip10:59
ActionParsnipgreyhatpython: np man10:59
hamedI think installing mpich2 and mpich3 same time is problem and I want to remove them completely; but I can't!!11:01
Aarunihamed: sudo apt-get purge ?11:01
joshuikonia I understand but in terms of keeping the system minimal as the OS itself will just be a thin client then using a standard install is too much, no?11:02
hamedI didn't get it: sudo apt-get purge ? Please explain more!?11:03
Aarunihamed: sudo apt-get purge <package_name>11:04
Aaruniremoves packages, and their configuration files11:04
hamedI make them from source code11:04
Aarunioh, then I don't know11:04
jpdshamed: Right, then the package manager isn't going to help and you'll have to do it by hand.11:05
hamedBut How? where is the paths of mpich* ? Because there are many *mpi* file in my /usr dir.11:06
jpdshamed: That's something we can't help with.11:07
harry /nick entertainer081511:07
harry-.-11:07
hamedThanks11:07
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ActionParsnipharry: without the leading space11:08
entertainer0815yeah I know thx ActionParsnip11:08
ActionParsnipentertainer0815: np :)11:08
snpresenthello,there11:09
entertainer0815Hey can somebody help me with my printer? I try to load a ppd unter settings. My Windowmanager is gnome. But everytime when I save the settings nothing is changed11:12
ActionParsnipentertainer0815: what printer?11:13
entertainer0815Brother DCP-J315W11:13
ActionParsnipentertainer0815: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue11:13
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ikoniajoshu: I think you need to think about what you believe a thin client actually is11:13
entertainer0815Ubuntu 13.0411:13
ActionParsnipentertainer0815: did you check the Brother website for driver deb files, they do make them...11:13
entertainer0815yeah I have installed drivers11:14
entertainer0815the ppd is in /etc/cups/ppd/11:14
entertainer0815the GTK-GUI for the printer settings don't work. I tried to load the right ppd but nothing happens11:15
entertainer0815so can i do this in terminal too?11:15
entertainer0815I must just change the path to the ppd11:15
ActionParsnipentertainer0815: http://pastie.org/815535911:15
entertainer0815ActionParsnip, I did this ...11:16
ActionParsnipentertainer0815: if you delete the printer from Ubuntu and power off the printer, then reboot and have the printer attached, it should pickup11:17
entertainer0815ah ok11:17
ActionParsnipentertainer0815: if not then use:  http://localhost:631  and add it there11:17
entertainer0815let me try this11:17
salty-horsehey. I moved my hard drive (the one I boot from) to a new machine. now kswapd takes 100% cpu for long periods of time. it did not happen on the old machine. any idea what could be the cause and how to fix it?11:18
joshuikonia I think I understand what a thin client is as I've worked with wyse thin clients. But creating a solution myself is what I'm trying to do and although I understand that I can just do a standard install of ubuntu on a laptop and create some scripts, it's not exactly what I want.11:18
ikoniajoshu: yes, and a wyse system is nothing like what you are suggesting11:19
ikoniajoshu: have you looked at something like lubuntu ?11:19
ActionParsnipor xpud11:20
ikoniajoshu: haveyou looked at ltsp ?11:20
ActionParsnipor puppy11:20
ikoniapuppy ?11:20
ikoniawhat has that got to do with it ?11:20
joshuikonia a wyse system with WTOS allows remote updating, shadowing, configuration, automatic vpn, all but using usb modems11:21
ikoniajoshu: I think ltsp would probably tick at least %70 of your needs out of the box11:21
joshuikonia i have looked at ltsp, but that's quite different if I understand it connects to an ubuntu server. I chatted with some people on the #ltsp channel and they suggested ubuntu mini + lightdm that's why I've mentioned it in my post.11:22
ActionParsnipikonia: its a good OS for thin clients11:22
ikoniaActionParsnip: it's terrible11:22
ikoniaActionParsnip: it's old and dated11:22
ikoniait's totally unmaintained apart from crazy unsupportable stuff like "slacko"11:23
ikoniajoshu: you're starting to get into building your own custom spin/distro at that point11:23
ActionParsnipikonia: http://puppylinux.org/main/Download%20Latest%20Release.htm  march 2013, only 1 month younger than Raring11:23
Johnny_Linuxhuh, slacko worked prety good for me, on a eeepc11:23
ikoniaActionParsnip: and look at what is is "slacko"11:23
ikoniaActionParsnip: it's just taking software from slackware11:23
ActionParsnipikonia: its still puppy linux though11:24
ikoniaActionParsnip: it's really not11:24
ikoniathere has not been a native puppy build for a long long time11:24
ActionParsnipikonia: how so, its on the official puppy linux and toued as the 'latest release', how is it not puppy?11:24
ikoniabecause puppy is dead and they just re-spin other peoples software in an unstable mess now11:24
ActionParsnipikonia: then why is the puppy site showing it as new, its right there on the page11:25
ikoniaActionParsnip: because it is new11:25
entertainer0815thx ActionParsnip <311:25
ActionParsnipikonia: you said it was old though...11:25
ikoniaActionParsnip: and this is what people in puppy do now,11:25
ActionParsnipentertainer0815: all good?11:25
ikoniaActionParsnip: yes, the last proper puppy standalone OS is old11:25
entertainer0815yeah ActionParsnip11:25
BluesKajHey all11:25
joshuikonia ok and you wouldn't suggest that for this project?11:25
ActionParsnipentertainer0815: yay11:25
entertainer0815sometimes is "turn it off and on again" better :D11:26
ikoniajoshu: the building of a custom distro you mean ?11:26
ActionParsnipentertainer0815: no doubt11:26
ActionParsnipikonia: it doesnt make any sense11:26
ikoniaActionParsnip: it really does11:26
entertainer0815thx and bye :)11:26
joshuikonia yes if that's what it would mean starting with ubuntu mini?11:26
ikoniajoshu: it really depends if you want to build, maintain and support your own ubuntu spin11:26
ActionParsnipikonia: you say puppy is dead but the puppy site shows a release in March, not old11:26
ikoniajoshu: it's not a bad idea, you just need to be aware of what you are getting into11:27
ActionParsnipikonia: doesnt matter what its based on, its still puppy11:27
ikoniaActionParsnip: please look at what puppy releases are now, they are just spins of other distros using the "woof" tool, they are an unstable mess and there is nothing really "puppy" in it any more. The last proper puppy build is old, hence why it's old11:27
ActionParsnipikonia: i wouldnt say so, but lets move on11:28
fugutive221_Hi11:28
fugutive221_Can anyone help me with a touchpad problem on Ubuntu?11:28
ActionParsnipfugutive221_: what make and model system?11:28
ActionParsnipfugutive221_: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue    ?11:29
fugutive221_Toshiba Satellite p870-33511:29
fugutive221_ActionParsnip: Model : Toshiba Satellite p870-33511:30
aliothanyone can help me in resizing partitions?11:30
fugutive221_ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l11:30
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yalexhello is there a way to get thunderbird and firefox to show network shares in Ubuntu 13.04?11:30
greyhatpython<alioth> use Gparted application and make sure to backup data before resizing partition11:31
joshuikonia I think if I had some help then I wouldn't mind going the ubuntu mini route.11:31
aliothI have problem with gparted, I wanna use fdisk11:32
greyhatpythonalioth what happened with gparted11:32
ikoniajoshu: there a lots of system intergrator IT businesses that will build and maintain this sort of thing for you11:32
ikoniajoshu: I think asking people to build this for your commercial needs for free is a bit tall to ask11:33
aliothI wanna resize my extended partition, but I see a warning with that in gparted11:33
greyhatpythonalioth what is the warning you are getting?11:33
joshuikonia absolutely I understand. That's why I mentioned that I was willing to pay for guidance.11:34
aliothLogical Volume Management is not yet supported.11:34
ActionParsnipfugutive221_: tried Fn + F9?11:35
darkowlzzhow do I upgrade vala in ubuntu 12.04? doing `apt-get upgrade` says it's already the newest version11:36
fugutive221_ActionParsnip: I haven't tryed that yet > I will do that just in a moment > what does it do?\11:36
ActionParsnipfugutive221_: its the shortcut to enable/disable the touchpad....11:36
greyhatpythonalioth try opening the gparted app as sudo gparted from the terminal11:36
aliothok11:36
Priceydarkowlzz: Although packages are provided by ubuntu, they are promised to be stable. This means that it might not always be the latest version from the upstream project.11:36
greyhatpythonalioth you need to run the app in root privileges.11:37
ikoniajoshu: check out some of the comerical linux providers11:37
fugutive221_ActionParsnip: I doesn't change anything to the situation ( it changes the volume) For me the enabling/disabling of the touchpad is fn + F5 but that doesn't work to11:38
aliothI got the error again greyhatpython11:38
darkowlzzPricey, thanks, I have vala 0.14 installed, but I need atleast 0.17.4.11:38
xormorwhy don't I hear any sound from my xubuntu 13.04 raring ringtail system?11:38
xormorLinux laptoppi-HP-G62-Notebook-PC 3.8.0-26-generic #38-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 17 21:46:08 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux11:38
xormorI don't hear the sound from YouTube, and not from Facebook's YouTube connection either.11:38
greyhatpythonalioth is it possible to unmount the extended partition and then try to resize?11:38
xormorI had the same problem earlier. I think I restarted something and it worked again.11:38
aliothno the option is unactive11:39
fugutive221_xormor: What if you put the volume about to 50%?11:39
Pricey!info vala11:39
ubottuPackage vala does not exist in raring11:39
alioththere is a warning icon near logical partition11:39
ActionParsnipfugutive221_: try:  sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sleep 4; sudo modprobe psmouse11:39
Pricey!info valac11:39
ubottuvalac (source: vala-0.18): C# like language for the GObject system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.18.1-0ubuntu4 (raring), package size 13 kB, installed size 149 kB11:39
xormorfugutive221_: I will try.11:39
Priceydarkowlzz: What version of ubuntu? raring seems to have 0.18?11:40
darkowlzz12.0411:40
fugutive221_ActionParsnip: I will try that11:40
greyhatpythonalioth the easiest way is to  use a live cd of ubuntu on usb key then install gparted and resize!11:40
aliothI'm using live cd now!11:40
joshuikonia alternatively your suggestion is standard ubuntu with scripts, yes?11:41
aliothgreyhat , actually in information box the status of partition is not mounted!!11:41
xormorfugutive221_: I got it to work. I went to settings and made the Analog Sound output to less than 100%.11:41
xormorfugutive221_: in the Sound Settings.11:41
aliothbut resize/move option is unactive also!!11:42
ikoniajoshu: something light like lubuntu I think would tick your boxes out the box, and with a little set of login scripts would do exactly what you want11:42
darkowlzzPricey, I am on Ubuntu 12.04. Do I have to add raring's source list ?11:42
fugutive221_xormor: I have had a similar problem like you had11:42
tozenalioth: r u using livecd?11:42
greyhatpythonalioth the extended partition is just a swap partition or  you have any data?11:42
aliothtozen yep11:42
ActionParsnipdarkowlzz: no, if you want to upgrade you will need to upgrade to Quantal first, then to Raring11:43
ActionParsnipdarkowlzz: just so you now, Raring is only supported til January 2014 wheras Precise is supported til April 201711:43
tozenalioth: show the screenshot of gparted, please11:43
aliothgreyhat it's Linux LVM partition11:44
aliothtozen just a min11:44
fugutive221_ActionParsnip: Is it the meaning that I reboot the system?11:44
shajud611:44
joshuikonia ok sounds interesting. what about "freezing" lubuntu similar to how wyse thin clients are updated with a new image. and being about to change the few configuration settings remotelyā€¦is that doable or we're back in custom land?11:44
ActionParsnipfugutive221_: no need, is it working11:45
shajuwhat will be in ubuntu 14.0011:45
fugutive221_ActionParsnip: doesn't work11:45
Priceydarkowlzz: No, that could go very badly.11:45
Priceydarkowlzz: You've got a few choices, have you considered upgrading to raring?11:46
aliothtozen I sent11:46
ActionParsnipfugutive221_: are there any bugs reported?11:46
darkowlzzPricey, my internet connection won't support that atm11:46
tozenalioth: where?11:46
MonkeyDustshaju  14.04 will be the next lts, first wait for 13.10 to come out11:46
aliothtozen pm11:47
darkowlzzPricey, ActionParsnip no other way?11:47
greyhatpythonalioth you want to use the entire  lvm partition or shrink it?11:47
Priceydarkowlzz: The other options include rebuilding a raring package for precise... or just installing the precise package... this could go horribly wrong.11:47
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xormorfugutive221_: I think my system had made HDMI the only sound output, I had to "wake up" the analog stereo system.11:48
ActionParsnipdarkowlzz: you could reinstall a clean install of Raring11:48
shajuMonkeyDust ok11:48
fugutive221_ActionParsnip: On my computer: No. I'm looking on the internet for those11:48
aliothgreyhatpython I wanna decrease size of it and create a new logical partition, because I have no free space for new one11:48
tozenalioth: send the link here, please11:49
ActionParsnipfugutive221_: I suggest you report a bug11:49
darkowlzzActionParsnip, but that would require downloading Raring first.11:50
darkowlzzActionParsnip, Pricey can't I build valac from source?11:50
darkowlzzhow about ^ ?11:50
Priceydarkowlzz: Sure, that's another option.11:51
hePtkj linux11:51
shajuUbuntu 13.04 makes my laptop burn!! any alternative for Jupiter  Power Management11:51
darkowlzzPricey, ActionParsnip thanks, I am cloning vala :)11:53
ActionParsnipshaju: do you use a switchable GPU (nvidia + intel)?11:53
aliothtozen http://s3.picofile.com/file/7852892040/Screenshot_1.png11:53
Priceydarkowlzz: Make sure you don't install it over the top of Ubuntu's version, that could get messy. Use /opt or /usr/local or osmething similar.11:54
shaju<ActionParsnip> AMD11:54
ActionParsnipshaju: which AMD GPU do you have?11:54
ActionParsnipshaju: sudo lshw -C display       will tell you11:54
ActionParsnipshaju: it will also tell you the driver in use11:55
shajuActionParsnip: AMD Radeon HD 6470M (1 GB DDR3 dedicated)11:56
ActionParsnipshaju: what does it say after:  driver=11:56
greyhatpythonalioth this should help you out. http://tinyurl.com/3ndm8bj11:56
b80905is emacs installed by default on ubuntu?11:56
ActionParsnipb80905: i dont believe so, no11:57
ActionParsnipb80905: vi is though ;)11:57
b80905ActionParsnip: that sucks, i was gonna switch from vi to emacs11:57
shajuActionParsnip sorry Battery Down !11:57
ActionParsnipb80905: then install it.....11:57
ActionParsnipshaju: what does it say after:  driver=11:57
b80905ActionParsnip: i wonder why it is not installed by default11:58
alioththanks greyhatpython11:58
ActionParsnipb80905: no idea11:59
aliothgreyhatpython thanks11:59
greyhatpythonyou welcome alioth!11:59
MonkeyDustb80905  to keep the .iso small, some packages have been left out, emacs may be among them11:59
lotuspsychje!info emacs | b8090511:59
ubottub80905: emacs (source: emacs-defaults): GNU Emacs editor (metapackage). In component main, is optional. Version 45.0 (raring), package size 1 kB, installed size 25 kB11:59
xormorb80905: sudo apt-get install emacs11:59
xormorb80905: I use joe, less hassle.11:59
xormorb80905: sudo apt-get install joe11:59
b80905ActionParsnip: is there a distro which comes with emacs installed12:00
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ActionParsnipb80905: i'd imagine so, yes12:00
MonkeyDustb80905  installing emacs is easier than switching distros, i guess12:00
ActionParsnipb80905: why does it have to be default?12:01
b80905ActionParsnip: for it is a gnu software12:01
lotuspsychjehow can i see if xchat lags on me or not12:04
ActionParsniplotuspsychje: have a chat with ubottu12:05
junktext_You could run two different IRC clients at the same time.12:05
ActionParsnipsend a few requests to her, see if she responds in a timely way, obviosly dont go to crazy12:05
junktext_See if one is slower than the other.12:06
Johnny_Linuxping12:06
MonkeyDustlotuspsychje  and if she says "mayb", it means "no"12:06
dv-wtf12:06
lotuspsychjeno /lag trigger somewhere?12:06
darkowlzzPricey, it looks like I need valac 0.12 to build vala12:09
MonkeyDustlotuspsychje  130+ people in #xchat, better ask there12:09
lotuspsychjeMonkeyDust: oh yes, tnx they might know12:10
Maxouillehello12:11
Ygrecanybody knows how a proxy/socks server responds ?12:11
Ygrecfor instance proxy's respond to GET http://12:12
Ygrecright ?12:12
Ygrecit will respond 200 ok12:12
MonkeyDustYgrec  this channel is for ubuntu support only, type         join ##networking12:13
MonkeyDustwith a slash12:13
Ygrecthanks12:13
lotuspsychje!cookie | MonkeyDust12:17
ubottuMonkeyDust: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!12:17
lotuspsychjeMonkeyDust: xchat/view/network meters did the trick :p12:18
aliothgreyhatpython I tried commands described in that link, but I got error again12:19
poisonlenevo g580 bluetooth not working help please12:20
aliothHow should I resize my logical partition... help meee12:22
flan_suseAnyone here have Shank and use a game controller?12:22
joseph_can someone give exact entries to add virtual host solivitacap.org on ubuntu 13.10 apache2 server12:22
MonkeyDustjoseph_  #ubuntu+1 for 13.10 support12:23
lotuspsychjealioth: gparted?12:23
flan_suseI bought mine from the Humble Bundle, and the game runs fine with nice performance. But the pause and guard actions use the same button on my controller!12:23
flan_suseI use the joydev module.12:23
aliothno lvm or fdisk12:23
aliothlotuspsychje no lvm or fdisk12:24
joseph_MonkeyDust what is #ubuntu+1?   another channel?12:24
lotuspsychje!13.10 | joseph_12:25
ubottujoseph_: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+112:25
Left_Turnhey i have a hard drive partitioned into 2. 1 for my OS, the 2nd for my files. is it possible to install ubuntu OS in the 2nd partition and be able to boot it from start up even with all the other files next to it on the same drive12:26
Johnny_Linuxdoes saucy salamander come with any side orders ?12:26
Hejkki_Left_Turn: if the filesystem is ext2, ext3 or other supported by linux installation12:27
Hejkki_fat32 not ok12:27
Left_Turnoh god how do i find that out12:27
Hejkki_sudo fdisk -l if you are on Linux12:28
Left_Turnwindows:(12:28
darkowlzzPricey, ActionParsnip there is a vala ppa :) https://launchpad.net/~vala-team/+archive/ppa12:28
lotuspsychjeLeft_Turn: how about you make ubuntu as you 'only' Os :p12:28
Hejkki_then probably your filesystem is fat32 or ntfs, not suitable for linux installation12:28
Left_Turni have too much important data:(12:28
Left_Turnoh no:(12:28
Hejkki_you can insert another hard drive?12:29
poisonI have lenevo ideapad g580 laptop, installed ubuntu 10.04, laptop's bluetooth not working. sugessions please12:29
Left_Turnan external one? yes i guess12:29
Hejkki_Left_Turn: you can resize and add another partition maybe12:29
lotuspsychjeLeft_Turn: backup your windows data and format whole drive with ubuntu12:29
Left_Turnoh on the same hrd drive?12:29
Hejkki_during ubuntu installation, you can resize and add another partition12:30
Left_Turnlotuspsychje thats not possible... its too big12:30
jagosixGood morning people.12:30
Left_TurnHejkki_ i can add another paritition from my fat32 and turn it into an ext2?12:31
jagosixI have an ambir 8201 scanner. works great in windows.. Need to setup in Linux. any suggestions?12:31
jagosixoops 820i12:31
Hejkki_Left_Turn: you can resize the fat32 or ntfs to be smaller and add a new partition after that12:31
Left_Turnoh ok i see12:32
Hejkki_Left_Turn: that's how i have it currently. i have windows 7 on ntfs, i have fat32 for my files and i have linux on ext4 partition12:33
Priceydarkowlzz: Even better!! I hadn't thought to search for that.12:33
Left_Turnoh i need it like that too Hejkki_... im just searching for some tips to help me12:33
jagosixmy partitions are ntfs, hfs+, ext4 and ext312:34
jagosixfat32 on exist on some of my usb thumb drives12:35
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ActionParsnipjagosix: if you run:  lsusb   you can use the 8 character hex ID to find guides12:42
DarkAceLaptophow do I get my OpenGL version?12:46
boichevDarkAceLaptop, glxinfo | grep "OpenGL version"12:48
boichevDarkAceLaptop, if you don't have glxinfo -> sudo apt-get install mesa-utils12:48
DarkAceLaptopthanks!12:49
joliwhats the counter at ubuntu.com about?12:51
jolidoes anyone knows?12:52
ranticjoli: IYou can assume it's related to their efforts with their phone and  tablets12:53
jolirantic: ok, thank you for the input12:54
jagosixActionparsnip - ok once thats done (lsusb) then what ?12:55
jagosixit's not showing up in Bus device listing12:59
xormorlsbush13:00
DarkAceLaptopis there a command that I can use in the command line to make my computer hibernate?13:03
MonkeyDustDarkAceLaptop  pm-hibernate13:04
DarkAceLaptoplemme try it13:04
MonkeyDustDarkAceLaptop  pm means power management13:04
DarkAceZMonkeyDust: that just turned my computer off ā”(Ā“āˆ€ļ½€)ā”Œ13:06
DarkAceZoh wait what13:07
DarkAceZit booted up into that session, though13:07
DarkAceZweird13:07
DarkAceZit's a different hibernate than what pressing fn+f5 does13:08
DarkAceZprobably a more power-saving one13:08
DarkAceZanyway, gotta run13:08
MonkeyDustDarkAceZ  or do you mean suspend, it's not the same13:09
DarkAceZah, yeah, maybe that's what it is13:10
DarkAceZpm-suspend?13:10
anoneehello everyone13:16
Caseyhaving issues deleting a folder in root, can someone help?13:16
ranticCasey: What's the folder, what command are you entering and what error are you getting? Try to provide more information when asking a question.13:17
anoneeCasey open a terminal, sudo rm -r <folder>13:17
Caseyrantic: lol nevermind for some reason it deleted after it said there was no such directory...odd13:18
Caseysorry to waste anyones time13:18
anoneerantic I have a program that has an icons the notification area and in GNOME menu, I wanna change that icon, I tried a lot of things but no joy... have you ever encountered something like this?13:20
Caseyrantic: ok better question, how do you undelete data you just accidentally deleted using the rm -rf command _-_13:20
Casey-_-***13:20
anoneerantic, Casey, I think you should use photorec13:21
Caseyrantic: the folder was in the /mnt/  folder on a raid 1 ext313:21
ActionParsnipCasey: use your backups13:23
anoneeActionParsnip are you the one that pulled his hair yesterday trying to help me with the icons issue?13:24
emper0rtouch test; chattr +i test  -> operation not allowed while flags are put in test13:24
emper0rany idea?13:24
CaseyActionParsnip: can you give me a little more explanation?  I was using this as backups but wanted to delete one folder that should not have been on the drive, but instead it deleted all the folders on the drive -_-13:24
psiloemper0r: only root can set that flag13:25
emper0rwith root same error13:25
emper0rroot@emperor:~# chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf13:25
emper0rchattr: La operaciĆ³n no estĆ” soportada mientras se estaban leyendo las banderas en /etc/resolv.conf13:25
emper0rerror (spanish version)13:26
anoneeActionParsnip I found this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/how-to-use-ubuntu-mono-panel-icons-with-others-icon-sets13:27
Caseyanonee: do you have the repository for13:28
Caseyphotorec13:28
anoneeCasey it's in the universe repo i guess just wait a sec plz13:28
Caseyanonee: I checked but couldnt find it, nor on google13:29
emper0rpsilo: got error using /etc/resolv.conf13:29
Caseyanonee: nevermind, I found it13:30
Caseythanks13:30
anoneeCasey you wanna recover the whole folder right?13:30
Caseyanonee: correct13:30
ActionParsnipCasey: if it is a backup, just rerun a full backup to recreate the data13:31
* riex having sweaty balls today13:31
CaseyActionParsnip: I am very new to linux so my skills on here are limited13:32
ActionParsnipemper0r: just add the lines you want in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head13:32
ActionParsnipCasey: but you said it was only the backup drive, surely the live data stands, right?13:32
CaseyActionParsnip: yes on like 8 other hard drives.13:32
anoneeCasey if you have a backup you don't need photorec13:33
ActionParsnipCasey: then you can recreate the data13:33
CaseyActionParsnip: this was to consolidate all of those drives (some on computers that are no longer in this state) and then create a backup of the backup, I was only touching this to take it out of EXT4 and move it to NTFS13:34
ActionParsnipCasey: ntfs? really...13:34
ubairnew user .. any help ??13:34
anoneeubair please don't ask to ask questions, just go ahead, p.s. I'm not a bot13:35
CaseyActionParsnip: yes, Hirens does not see ext4 HDD's and I can't clone to my backup drives.13:35
CaseyActionParsnip: 90% of my work is one a windows machine so it just works out better for me.13:36
ranticubair: Be specific when asking for help13:37
Caseyis on windows machines**13:37
Caseyanonee: I have photorec installed, how to you start this puppy?13:38
anoneeCasey what kind of backup do u have?13:38
rickycwhat is the preferred language to develop apps in ubuntu, qt?13:39
Caseyanonee: the word backup is being loosely, I should be saying "copy"13:39
^MikeIs there not a package for bugzilla any more?13:39
Caseyanonee: for HDD Images, I use Ghost32, off of Hirens.13:39
anoneeyou have a copy of your data on ext4, some of them is lost, and you wanna copy the whole stuff to ntfs right?13:40
xkerneli'm looking for private cloud software build my own cloud13:40
MonkeyDustxkernel  try owncloud13:40
blazemorexkernel: owncloud13:40
xkernelMonkeyDust, blazemore do you think its better to create owncloud or to install each service as standalone like mail server, file server ,etc..  I'm talking about 1 server machine13:41
MonkeyDustxkernel  better ask in #ubuntu-server13:41
blazemorexkernel: It depends on what you want from it. It can be better to install everything yourself because then you know 100% what you are running13:41
Caseyanonee: overall goal: to take all info off of the raid 1 ext4's move it to a temp HDD. Reformat the ext4's to NTFS. Problem: For some reason I did not have permissions on my hard drives to just right-click delete, so I had to go in as root and delete the folder that did not need to come over. Thus I deleted all data :(13:42
anoneeCasey now for the lost folder, read this http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec to know how to use photorec, note: always be sure to recover to a different partition, and the rest is gonna be easier I think it can be done by a # cp command13:44
Caseythe raid1 ext4's are still intact, and I haven't formated or touched them since I deleted the whole folder inside the raid 113:44
Caseyanonee: I've used it in the past off of a cd in bootup, so I'll be ok there, I just didnt know how to start the program in linux, lol.13:45
anoneeCasey I don't remember too there's a tool in photorec called, let me check13:45
JayProhey guys... having issues with ant. i type "ant -version" and i get the message "unable to locate tools.jar. Expected to find it in /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386 ....".  I go to /usr/lib/jvm and i see folders for java 1.7 and java 7.  I try sudo update-alternative --config java and i get "there is only one alternative..... nothing to configure"13:45
tiouuuumon0 is on channel -1, but the AP uses channel 1 can someone help13:46
Caseyanonee: how do you even get the program to come up? I've installed via the USC but when I search for it in Dash Home it does not appear.13:46
anoneeCasey just go to the shell and # photorec13:47
tiouuuumon0 is on channel -1, but the AP uses channel 1 can someone help13:47
Caseyanonee: thanks!13:47
kgalahassahow can I install skype on ubuntu 12.10? which source can i use?13:47
anoneeCasey dont recover to the same hdd!13:48
luo#ubuntu ChanServ13:48
MonkeyDustkgalahassa  try activating the 3rd partner source, then install it13:48
Caseyanonee: I know, I do a lot of data recovery with GetItBack NTFS and Fat32, no stranger to all of this, but I feel like a newb when it comes to linux :p13:49
tiouuuucan someone help with this error: mon0 is on channel -1, but the AP uses channel 1 can someone help13:49
Caseyanonee: thanks for looking out bud :)13:49
ActionParsnipkgalahassa: skype.com or Ubuntu partner repo13:49
anoneeCasey yw13:49
anoneenow I need to change this icon lol13:50
luo#ubuntu who can tell me how to use this  I am newcomer13:50
anoneeif I don't change it I will die just looking at it13:50
SnowieHi all. I see alot of oldish complex walkthroughs for android mtp on ubuntu. on 12.04 lts, what is the best option without modifying my SS Note 2 I want access to all in the Gallery app on the phone. gMTP will not find my device and often just crash.13:50
Piciluo: How to use what?13:50
luoI am the first time to use this browser13:51
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MonkeyDustluo  what is your ubuntu related question?13:52
tiouuuucan someone help with this error: mon0 is on channel -1, but the AP uses channel 1 can someone help13:52
Caseyanonee: and let the recovery begin....13:52
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RxDxPlease... I am deploying a mesh network... Each router has 2 NICs (network interface cards), one for the backbone and another is an access point (AP) for clients connect.. Now I have DHCP-server installed on each router, so I have multiples subnetworks (one subnetwork for each AP)... How can I have just one DHCP offering IPs for every AP?13:52
luoI here and  all I can do is nothing13:52
anoneeCasey good luck!13:52
Guest60883how to install drivers of amd 4000 series display in ubuntu13.0413:53
anoneeCasey just to make sure http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec13:53
anoneeCasey I mean this http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec_Step_By_Step13:53
tgaryHi! Is there a way, to install ttf version of the Liunx Libertine font in Ubuntu 13.10? (How?)13:53
anoneeCasey nobody wants to help me change this icon13:53
SnowieRxDx: isnt that literally as simple as having all on the same subnet and just setting one dhcp server? just manually specify the ip for each ap, and let the one dhcp do the rest13:54
Slarttgary: isn't Libertine in the repositories? (apt-cache search libertine)13:54
RxDxSnowie, thats exactly what I want13:54
Slart!info fonts-linuxlibertine | tgary13:55
ubottutgary: fonts-linuxlibertine (source: fonts-linuxlibertine): Linux Libertine family of fonts. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.1.3-1 (raring), package size 12467 kB, installed size 23516 kB13:55
RxDxSnowie, I just dont know how to set up just ONE dhcp-server for distribute IP for every APs13:55
tgarySlart: There is fonts-linuxlibertine, but it contains only the OpenType version, and not the True Type Font version.13:55
Slarttgary: aahh.. I see13:55
anoneeubottu you've given me some links to help changing an icon yesterday. let's see how smart you are?13:56
ubottuanonee: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:56
anoneeubottu but you're not stupid though13:56
ubottuanonee: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:56
anoneeOMG ubottu!13:56
SnowieRxDx: i see, so im not sure of your specifics, but in the 'router' software youve got running your 2 NIC, cant you disable dhcp on all but one, and manually set the IP for the AP side on each. Dhcp should then be available to all that connect.13:57
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ActionParsnipanonee: she only reposnds to triggers, not intelligent13:57
ranticActionParsnip: That's what they said about Skynet13:57
ActionParsniprantic: ha!13:58
Slarttgary: this might be an option if you can't find an easier way. http://www.stuermer.ch/blog/convert-otf-to-ttf-font-on-ubuntu.html13:58
RxDxSnowie, actually, my routers softwares is Debian Linux... My scenario is.. One backbone formed by the router (the backbone address is 192.168.0.X, where X is the number of the mesh router)... and each mesh router has another wireless interface that I is running HostAPD (to transform it into an AP)13:59
tgarySlart: Ok, I've downloaded from SF and imported to my app.. I don't know why this 8MB is not included in Ubuntu.13:59
RxDxthe backbone IPs is set manually.. but the AP IPs should be delivery automactly with dhcp13:59
Slarttgary: I have no idea either14:00
tgarySlart: (It is in the official linux libertine sourceforge page, no need to convert.)14:00
tgarySlart: Thanks the help!14:00
Slarttgary: you're welcome14:00
Caseyanonee: what icon are you trying to change?14:00
RxDxbut I want to provide transparent handoff between the mesh routers...14:00
blazemoreRxDx: Try #ubuntu-server or ##networking (the latter is unaffiliated with Ubuntu)14:01
SnowieRxDx: Ahh, yeah, that i dont think i can help with, the handoff. other than that, enable dhcp on just one router, so one router would be the gateway address for all ohter routers, and all other devices connected to those routers also. do you get what i mean?14:02
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Snowieany simple mtp for android solutions other than "upgrade to 13.04"?14:04
RxDxSnowie, I got.. but look whats my problem.. Actually I already have one gateway (mesh router1 for example)... but the traffic flows between wlan0 (which is 192.168.0.X, i mean, has a mesh topology) but the clientis another  network... it is 192.168.1.X so I can send requests through 192.168.0.1 but it doesnt comes to 192.168.1.114:05
anoneeCasey it's an app i don't think you know it it's called minbar it's for prayer times. I'm afraid it's like in windows when it's taken from inside the exe or dll, however I still think that hopefully not!14:05
anoneeubottu i18n locales14:06
anoneeubottu i18n locales you told me yesterday when I asked if you were single!14:06
ubottuanonee: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:06
anoneelol14:07
anoneeCasey! ubottu needs recovery!14:07
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JayProhey guys... having issues with ant. i type "ant -version" and i get the message "unable to locate tools.jar. Expected to find it in /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386 ....".  I go to /usr/lib/jvm and i see folders for java 1.7 and java 7.  I try sudo update-alternative --config java and i get "there is only one alternative..... nothing to configure" ..anyone?14:10
ActionParsnipJayPro: try the Webupd8 PPA for Oracle Java14:11
JayProwhat do you mean.. what is that?14:12
MonkeyDustJayPro  start from the beginning, what are you trying to achieve14:13
JayProim trying to install ofbiz to test it out... before i do, i was checking to see if java, subversion, and ant is installed correctly14:13
MonkeyDust!find ofbiz14:14
ubottuPackage/file ofbiz does not exist in raring14:14
JayProso... java and subversion checks out...14:14
JayProbut ant can not locate java tools14:15
JayProi've removed java and ant...then reinstalled ant, which also installed java...still i get the same error...not being able to locate java tools14:17
linux_hackstry setting up the java in path environment variable14:18
linux_hacksor also it should work by setting up the JAVA_HOME export parameters14:19
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JayProlinux_hacks okay ummm...let me google that..14:21
linux_hacksyou mean to set java_home14:21
JayProyeah i dont know what that means..14:21
linux_hacksok run this command14:22
linux_hacksexport JAVA_HOME='' location of java where it is installed14:22
linux_hacksto the parent directory not to the bin directory14:22
JayPro/usr/lib/jvm? there's like 5 java folders14:23
linux_hacksrun ls14:23
linux_hacksand copy the stack trace to pastebin14:23
Guest29752Hey guys does anyone know how to dd the android sdcard filesystem out so I can use scalpel/other data recovery software on it?14:23
kchenguehello gus14:24
kchengueguys14:24
ActionParsnipGuest29752: what is the output o:  cat /etc/issue14:24
Guest29752"\n \l"14:25
ActionParsnipGuest29752: ok, try:  lsb_release -sc14:25
s4ckhi14:25
s4ckanybody here14:25
s4ckhello14:25
s4cki need help very fast14:25
s4ckplz help14:25
FloodBot1s4ck: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.14:25
ActionParsnipGuest29752: what is output please?14:25
Picis4ck: just ask14:25
s4ckpici: i try install ubuntu 13.04, but it say14:25
s4ckbut it give me black screen14:26
s4ckpici: ubuntu not good14:26
s4ckpici: installer not work14:26
ActionParsnips4ck: what video chip do you use?14:26
s4ckActionParsnip: who are you14:26
s4ckpici: help me14:26
ezra-slol14:26
ActionParsnips4ck: why does that matter?14:26
s4ckinstaller not working14:26
Picis4ck: stop pressing enter every 2 words.14:26
ActionParsnips4ck: what video chip do you use?14:26
s4ckActionParsnip: how do i check it14:26
s4cki use linux.....14:26
ActionParsnips4ck: does the system have a working OS presently?14:27
s4ckyes actionparsnip, of course14:27
ActionParsnips4ck: not of course, it could be a new HDD and you want to install to it14:27
ActionParsnips4ck: there is no 'of coure' about it14:27
s4ckactionparsnip: my hdd is 600gb14:27
ActionParsnips4ck: what OS are you running presently14:27
ActionParsnips4ck: your HDD is irrelevant right now14:28
s4ckactionparsnip: ubuntu 914:28
s4ckupdatemanager giving me black screen14:28
ezra-snow it's update manager, not an installation...14:28
ActionParsnips4ck: ok run: sudo lshw -C display14:28
Guest29752@ActionParsnip: Sorry, /etc/issue is "Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l"14:29
ActionParsnips4ck: there is no ubuntu 9, there is ubuntu 9.04 and ubuntu 9.1014:29
s4ckactionparsnip; now installer work, thanks14:29
MoPacHello; I have a question about folder-mounted devices in general and cifs in particular. I have some folders on a NAS mounted on login via fstab, and for the most part it's great how transparent it is. However, I'm wondering if there is any simple way for a program to see that a folder is so mounted and what the IP is?14:29
s4ckmagic happened14:29
MoPacMy issue is specifically with the fact that CrashPlan can't throttle the LAN traffic between my laptop and the NAS folders because it just sees it as a local folder, not a LAN destination. I wanted to suggest to CrashPlan that they add functionality to discriminate, but I don't know if there is a ready way for an application to check.14:29
s4cknow its working14:29
s4cknob lack screen14:29
s4ckbut i have 1 more question, actionparsnip. are u knowing v4l2loopback?14:29
ActionParsnipGuest29752: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/06/mount-nexus-4-on-ubuntu   all I know14:29
s4ckhow can I create virtual webcam and stream videos from it?14:30
ActionParsnips4ck: never heard of it14:30
ActionParsnips4ck: why is this so time critical?14:30
ezra-sMoPac, if you want to monitor traffic SMB uses the tcp/ip stack you just monitor destination ip:port and traffict to/from it14:30
s4ckany operator here14:31
s4ck!ops - i need cloak14:31
ubottus4ck: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:31
ActionParsnips4ck: why is this so time critical?14:31
s4ck!ops14:31
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!14:31
s4ckhello, i need cloak14:31
MonkeyDusts4ck  ask in #freenode14:31
s4ckmonkeydust, ok14:31
IdleOnes4ck: needing a cloak isn't a channel emergency.14:31
BluesKajs4ck, join #freenode for cloaking14:31
DJoness4ck: You need to join #freenode to ask about a cloak14:31
s4ckcannot get cloak from here?14:31
Picis4ck: don't abuse the ops trigger.14:31
ActionParsnips4ck: why did you want help urgently for just an install please?14:31
MoPacezra-s: So an application would actually have to send data to a folder, then do traffic monitoring and determine statistically or something that "hey, that was my traffic, this folder must be remote"?14:31
s4ckdjones, how can i get /ubuntu/ one?14:31
IdleOne!membership > s4ck14:32
ubottus4ck, please see my private message14:32
kgalahassahow can I install skype on ubuntu 12.10? which source can i use?14:32
DJones!skype | kgalahassa14:32
MonkeyDust!skype14:32
ubottukgalahassa: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga14:32
Guest29752@ActionParsnip I already have the phone mounted using go-mtpfs, but trying to dd /media/MyAndroid doesnt word (I should mention I have no idea how to dd either but this guide indicated I should - http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/15869/how-can-i-recover-a-deleted-file-on-android)14:32
s4ckwho is founder of ubuntu14:32
s4ckfounder of ubuntu come to this channel?14:33
blazemore!ot | s4ck14:33
ubottus4ck: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:33
ezra-sMoPac, I don't know how " CrashPlan" works but if it is as you say it monitors activity to throttle bandwitdh usage or so I understoot, which better way than checking network traffic itself?14:33
yeatskgalahassa: http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/ - I would guess that the 12.04 version would probably work fine14:33
k1l_s4ck: see the bots message in query14:33
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ActionParsnips4ck: try asking one question then get that resolved, rather than machine gunning questions14:33
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ezra-ss4ck, Marck ShuttleWorth is the head of Ubuntu now14:34
JayProlinux_hacks http://pastebin.com/NebHgP2614:34
MoPacezra-s: I'm pretty sure CrashPlan actually works by knowing in advance: this is a backup to a LAN destination, this is a backup to a WAN destination, or this is a backup to a local folder. It then throttles the rates based on your settings, not by monitoring its own traffic and then determining that it's sending data over LAN or WAN14:34
s4ckezra-s: does he come to irc?14:34
blazemoreezra-s: Sorry but you're wrong, Mark Shuttleworth stepped down as CEO of Canonical in December 200914:34
linux_hacksnow java_home should be set to /usr/lib/jum/default-java14:34
ActionParsnips4ck: "15:25 < s4ck> i need help very fast"   <- why?14:34
k1l_!ot | s4ck14:35
ubottus4ck: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:35
arc__i was told here to upgrade my ubuntu so my cpu fan will work but it was just some paper stuck in there14:35
MoPacezra-s: So I was wondering if Ubuntu's mounting system - cifs or whatnot - created some kind of ready list of mounts and IPs that other apps can read14:35
s4ckActionParsnip: my ubuntu was having black screen, i thought all my data will be removed14:35
blazemorearc__: Fantastic :D14:35
ezra-sblazemore, ohh.. my bad, I assumed he remained that way as he is still the one who does the talking publicaly, my bad14:35
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jpdsMoPac: fstab/GIO gvolume ?14:36
arc__yeah thanz all you irc guy out there14:36
ezra-sMoPac, no clue14:36
blazemorearc__: To be fair, when we help people we tend to assume they've already checked the obvious things like "nothing is physically stuck in my computer"14:36
BluesKajmy bad , my bad ..gawd , can't you guys speak english14:36
Ace[Laptop]hi all, does anyone know of a method of installing ubuntu-minimal that supports UEFI booting (mini.iso does not work, no uefi support)14:36
MoPacjpds: Sorry, I'm a bit to green to follow -- I know the fstab file but not GIO gvolume14:37
arc__yeah i just ask a lapto tech guy at my school14:37
MoPacezra-s: thanks for thinking about it anyway14:37
ActionParsnips4ck: no, an installer not running will not toch your data. You should also have a backup if your data is important14:37
Sazpaimoncan anyone please confirm if the latest bcmwl drivers support the new 802.11ac cards?14:37
s4ck*touch14:37
ezra-sBluesKaj, are you talking to me?14:37
s4ckactionparsnip, you make lots of english grammatical mistakes....14:37
BluesKajin general ezra-s , you're not the onlky one14:38
BluesKajerr only14:38
linux_hacksJayPro: did you do this  java_home should be set to /usr/lib/jum/default-java14:38
MonkeyDusts4ck  stick to support questions, please14:38
blazemores4ck: typographical errors, not spelling mistakes. I doubt he thinks it's spelled "toch", it's more likely he just typed it incorrectly14:38
arc__anyway when i upgraded to 12.04 i lost all of my packages and they where compatible with 12.04.1 so i am confused14:38
ezra-sBluesKaj, but I can use informal language If I want, or not?14:39
ashish_my ubuntu 12.04 system heating too much. its dell m101z14:39
s4ckblazemore: please shut up14:39
k1l_s4ck: please stick to the technical ubuntu support in here (see the messages the bot gave you)14:39
jpdsMoPac: It's an interface to what GNOME knows about mountpoints.14:39
s4ckok k1l_14:39
blazemoreThanks k1l_14:39
MoPacjpds: thanks14:40
arc__ashish_ is there anything stuck in your fan14:40
BluesKajezra-s, informal isn't always est for those who don't understand English idioms and vernaculars as well you do.14:40
ashish_nothing. my fan is working file. initially i installed 13.04 but there was not driver supportd to amd display manager so i install 12.04 with fglrsx drivers its its too hot14:41
ezra-sBluesKaj, english is not my native language, I use what I usually hear, "my bad" was used a lot when I lived in US14:41
JayProlinux_hacks yeah did not work14:41
BluesKajno matter14:41
netlarGood morning all14:41
ezra-s:P14:41
linux_hacksdo you have any special reason to use openjdk14:41
BluesKajmy bad is poor English even by US standards14:42
linux_hacksgenerally I would  install sun jdk and use ant download and configure system14:42
ezra-sBluesKaj, well you weren't there hearing "it ain't" all day long :P14:42
BluesKajmy bad isn't "cool" , it's dumbing down , that's all14:43
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JayProlinux_hacks i just want to use ofbiz.... checked tutorials on installing ofbiz on ubuntu and it was asking for for them - http://rmahmadur.wordpress.com/2013/06/03/installation-of-ofbiz-on-ubuntu-12-04/14:43
* ezra-s erases "my bad" as requested14:43
linux_hacksok..so do this..14:44
drasko_HI all. Boot process hangs here : [   13.184419] init: upstart-udev-bridge state changed from starting to pre-start14:44
drasko_for a quite long time. How to debug thi ?14:45
drasko_*this?14:45
blazemoredrasko_: Does it boot eventually?14:45
drasko_yeap14:45
drasko_but after 2 minutes14:46
drasko_meanwhile no console output14:46
drasko_untill login prompt, which appears, as I said, around 2 min after14:46
blazemoredrasko_: Can you please run the command: " sudo apt-get install bootchart pybootchartgui -y " (without the quotes). BootChart is a utility which helps find bottlenecks in the boot process14:47
blazemoredrasko_: Once you've done that, reboot and let me know14:47
drasko_blazemore, I already have bootchart installed14:47
xormor"compassionate conservative" is bad English :D14:47
drasko_and I booted with it14:47
blazemoreOh OK show me your bootchart them :)14:47
blazemore*then14:47
drasko_but I can not find bootstrap.tgz14:47
drasko_*bootchart.tgz14:47
blazemoredrasko_: It's a png image in /var/log/bootchart14:47
ezra-shehe14:47
drasko_blazemore, I do not have pybootchartgui14:48
p0wn3dDoes anyone know a published list of updates you receive by date from the update manager?14:48
drasko_just bootchart14:48
Ace[Laptop]hi all, does anyone know of a method of installing 13.04 ubuntu-minimal that supports UEFI booting (mini.iso does not work, no uefi support)14:48
blazemoredrasko_: Are there any files in /var/log/bootchart ?14:49
SemperGentlemen, when I open a remote SSH session with xforwarding and start the DE14:49
Semperis it meant to migrate the session from the PC I am sshing from?14:49
drasko_blazemore, yes actually... I just saw tgz14:49
drasko_let me analyze it14:49
blazemoredrasko_: You need pybootchartgui to turn that into a png14:49
p0wn3dI found it ubuntuupdates.org14:49
drasko_yeap, I know ;)14:49
drasko_I have this on my host14:50
drasko_(I run ubuntu on ARM target, and have no GUI there)14:50
ashish_my ubuntu system is heating too much with 12.04 and fglrx drivers14:51
ashish_i installed tlp and zram also. its normal temp is 95C14:51
mar77ihello #ubuntu14:51
blazemoreSemper: No, it will work for new individual applications (try xeyes as the standard test example)14:51
mar77iboss said we'll import these users with dots in their login names. also, they should be able to log in with these and new users should also be created with dots from gui.14:52
mar77ia quick google didn't turn up too much useful info so I came here...14:53
blazemoreI don't understand your question mar77i14:53
h00kashish_: are your fans running? Does it heat up that much with any other OS? consider checking heatsinks for blockages14:53
Okitainmar77i: run?14:53
blazemoreEveryone in here now is going to be "check your fan for paper" with every overheating issue :P14:53
blazemore314:53
ashish_ya my fan is working fine. in windows system was ok14:53
h00kblazemore: it's not a bad troubleshooting step.14:54
blazemoreh00k: I know, but one assumes that the end user has checked this sort of thing for themselves before coming to IRC :P14:54
blazemoreor at least, one used to be able to assume14:55
mar77ito get precise, this must have to do with that NAME_REGEX variable. where is that set?14:55
ashish_is there is any way to identify the issue or because of which reason system is heating at this level?14:56
ashish_i m using gnome3.4 with ubuntu12.0414:56
Ace[Laptop]does anyone know of a 13.04 that supports both the minimal install and uefi booting?14:56
Ace[Laptop]*13.04 iso14:56
h00kblazemore: I assume little :(14:57
saiarcot895ashish_: you can try using top to see what process is using the most CPU14:57
saiarcot895ashish_: I'm assuming it's the CPUs that are overheating14:57
h00kblazemore: /query for a good story -->14:58
ashish__gnome cell is using 50-60, it may be the reason of heating?14:58
JayProthanks for the help, linux_hacks!!!14:58
linux_hacksyou're welcome.14:59
mar77ihmm, I found the /etc/adduser.conf file, but adding the dot into the character list didn't help.14:59
saiarcot895ashish__: If that process is using the most CPU, I would say that's the cause14:59
ashish__so what can i do to check it??????15:00
OkitainAce[Laptop]: can you switch it off?15:01
ashish__ubuntu11.10 was woring very well with my system15:01
saiarcot895ashish__: is that the name of the process as it appears in top?15:01
blazemoreashish__: What laptop are you on?15:01
Ace[Laptop]Okitain: switching it off will disable  a feature I'd like to test, intel's rapid start15:02
ashish__dell m101z15:02
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Ace[Laptop]Okitain: it also signficantly increases my boot time15:02
ashish__saiarcot895, i didnt get what u r asking and how to check15:02
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OkitainAce[Laptop]: you can try to install ubuntu and then retroactively switch the efi bootloader on.15:03
saiarcot895ashish__: open a terminal and type in top; the process using the most CPU will appear at the top, and the name of the process will appear on the right side15:03
Ace[Laptop]Okitain: that's an interesting thought15:03
ashish__saiarcot895,_ ya its gnome cell15:04
Ace[Laptop]Okitain: I wonder how up to date this is --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Converting_Ubuntu_into_EFI_mode15:04
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OkitainAce[Laptop]: seems good enough as it has SecureBoot in.15:05
mar77iactually, changing the value in /etc/adduser.conf has no effect at all... how so?15:06
blazemoremar77i: "man /etc/adduser.conf"15:06
saiarcot895ashish__: I can't find anything about gnome_cell or gnome-cell on the internet15:07
Ace[Laptop]Okitain: I guess that's my best option, it's a bit disappointing that the real installer isn't flexible enough to just install a minimal system if requested15:07
saiarcot895ashish__: the only suggestion I have is to kill the process, either from within top or by using pkill15:07
ashish__sorry its gnome-shell15:07
Ace[Laptop]Okitain: I'm a bit surprised ubuntu needs more than one install iso at all, other distros manage to do one that supports all the different install types15:07
OkitainAce[Laptop]: if you want, you can turn to the dark side and just use Fedora.15:07
saiarcot895ashish__: that makes more sense15:08
ashish__i m really very sorry15:08
Ace[Laptop]Okitain: I can't stand the package management15:08
saiarcot895ashish__: in that case, don't kill the process15:08
mar77iblazemore: funny15:08
xormorsudo apt-get install packagename15:08
blazemoremar77i: I wasn't trying to be funny...?15:08
mar77iblazemore: /etc/adduser.conf contains a default regex with a backslashed end of line anchor \$... but it looks like the shell doesn't try to expand a dollar char at the end of the string leaving the backslash in there and passing the actual "...\$" to the regex engine which then expects user names to end with '$'...15:10
OkitainAce[Laptop]: There is Mageia, openSUSE, etcetera...15:10
saiarcot895ashish__: I'm guessing it has something to do with graphics15:10
saiarcot895ashish__: can you run "glxinfo | grep direct" and tell me what it says?15:10
OkitainReally, I can't help but feel it's all a clusterfuck done specifically so that linux would have trouble.15:11
DarkDexhey guys15:11
Ace[Laptop]Okitain: those are all rpm based, the only non-ubuntu I've considered is debian15:11
DarkDexis there a way to download torrents off the cli?15:11
ActionParsnipDarkDex: sure, transmission has a cli interface15:11
ashish__saiarcot895, the glxinfo not installed15:11
mar77iblazemore: my current regex in /etc/adduser.conf line 85: NAME_REGEX="^[a-z][-a-z0-9_.]*$" # works15:11
BluesKaj!language > Okitain15:11
ubottuOkitain, please see my private message15:11
Ace[Laptop]Okitain: and if I use debian, I lose all the PPA stuff15:11
DarkDexActionParsnip: Is it ok if I pm you man?15:11
ActionParsnipDarkDex: sure, ive not done it but I know it can be done15:12
BluesKajashish__, install mesa-utils15:12
OkitainDarkDex: there is also rtorrent.15:12
Ace[Laptop]DarkDex: deluge has a cli too, also, rtorrent is an awesome command-line-only program15:12
ashish__BluesKaj, ya i m installing15:12
ashish__saiarcot895, direct rendering: Yes15:13
ashish__    GL_EXT_copy_buffer, GL_EXT_copy_texture, GL_EXT_direct_state_access,15:14
vakahi15:14
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vakai am a java developer and want to contribute to open source15:14
vakalet me know a good entry point15:14
Okitainvaka: try forking TuxGuitar.15:15
saiarcot895ashish__: not sure what it is then15:15
ActionParsnipvaka: contact projects using java and offer your services15:15
saiarcot895ashish__: do you have nividia or amd/ati graphics or intel graphics?15:15
OkitainMaybe not so much of "entry" but at least it needs it.15:15
sanavalis --list #host15:16
ashish__saiarcot895, its ati/amd15:16
vakai am not sure which projects i can get into15:16
vakacan you give me a link where i can register15:16
saiarcot895ashish__: you can try installing the proprietary drivers to see if that changes anything15:16
vakaif any15:17
sanavhello , is their any IRC for support on free-web host ? I found problem in sign up .15:17
saiarcot895ashish__: I believe you have to go into Software Sources, into the Additional Drivers tab, and install the drivers there15:17
ashish__saiarcot895, i have already installed fglrx drivers15:17
saiarcot895ashish__: did you have the same problem before installing the fglrx drivers?15:18
ashish__saiarcot895, ya i have same problem before it15:19
saiarcot895ashish__: not sure what it is then, sorry about that15:22
holsteinashish__: what were you using in 11.10? gnome2?15:23
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ashish__it was unity15:27
ashish__sory that time i was new in linux15:27
ashish__it was default disply manager.15:28
holsteinashish__: im just going to propose you might have a "better" experience in something that doesnt require 3d.. such as xfce/xubuntu15:28
ashish__holstein, its surely prob of gnome?15:29
holsteinashish__: i didnt say, or mean to imply that15:30
holsteinashish__: its likely related to the graphics driver support,, where you are troubleshooting.. and, you may not get support for your device for inux15:30
ashish__holstein, i just asked because i like gnome. if there is no alternate way that i have to use lxde15:30
holsteinashish__: if you have tried all the drivers that are available15:30
holsteinashish__: the alternative is to purchase hardware with better linux support15:31
holsteinashish__: lxde/lubuntu doesnt require 3d either15:31
ashish__holstein, this laptop was shipped with ubuntu10.10 only15:31
holsteinashish__: what were the support terms? have you tried all the drivers available?15:32
ashish__holstein, so i dont think drivers should be the issue15:32
holsteinashish__: if you have tried all the drivers, and they are not acceptable, then the drivers *are* the issue15:33
rosco_yhow do you set your mouse-buttons so you can click on the top border of a window to send it to the back of other windows?15:33
ashish__ya i installed fresh driver now it shows VISA 88015:33
holsteinashish__: vesa15:33
holstein?15:33
drasko_on boot, linux hangs there: [    2.601529] drivers/rtc/hctosys.c: unable to open rtc device (rtc0)15:33
drasko_then waits for a long time15:33
ashish__it shows in system setting, overview VISA:RS880M15:34
blazemoredrasko_: Like I said, show me your bootchart15:35
holsteinashish__: is the performance acceptable? i wouldnt worry much about the labels15:35
netlarHow can I find out the chipset of my bluetooth?  It is built into the motherboard, it is not a usb adapter.15:35
blazemorenetlar: lspci15:35
drasko_blazemore, this bootchart does not tell me much. Where can I send it ?15:36
ashish__holstein, performance is ok, only heatin issue but its too much now 98C15:36
blazemoredrasko_: However you want... I like imgur15:36
netlarblazemore: Not sure which one it is from this list15:36
blazemorenetlar: They should be named by date/time - just send me the most recent one15:36
holsteinashish__: that might be as good as it gets.. you can ask the product vendor for more specific support, or try and file a bug with the creator of the driver you are using15:37
holsteinashish__: i would try and confirm that that is the tempreature.. could be reporting the temp incorrectly15:37
holsteinashish__: i have an invidia card that gets hot, and i deal with it, since i want to use linux15:37
ashish__i m using lm sensor fr it15:37
netlarblazemore: Here: http://pastebin.com/27He60Fi15:38
holsteinashish__: sure.. and im not saying its reporting incorrectly, but it could be15:38
ashish__holstein, so i have to file bug. no other solution right now?15:39
Hekukuokahcan I write ubuntu app for ubuntu phone with python?15:39
holsteinashish__: have you tried all the drivers available for your device?15:39
blazemorenetlar: Looks like you have the AR9462 wireless module, which is manufactured by Atheros, and provides both WiFi and Bluetooth on your motherboard.15:39
ashish__holstein, ya i have tried15:39
whoeverashish__: what device, and what is the prob15:39
holsteinashish__: aldo, dont assume its getting hot from one source15:40
ashish__whoever, its del m101z with ubuntu12.04, gnome desktop, fglrx drivers for ati/amd15:40
netlarblazemore: thanks, Is there a driver for it?15:40
tyteen4a03Hi, trying to install nvidia drivers using this guide: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-ringtail-nvidia.html but I followed all the way to modprobe bit and it tells me nvidia_update is missing. am I missing something?15:41
holsteinashish__: you have tried what?15:41
ashish__holstein, yaa that what i want to know, only one reason should nt be15:41
whoeverashish__: so what is the card model15:41
holsteinashish__: i dont understand "holstein, yaa that what i want to know, only one reason should nt be"15:41
drasko_blazemore, http://imgur.com/uWLo8HF15:41
ashish__amd readon 4000series15:42
netlarblazemore: Think I found it15:42
blazemorenetlar: What version of Ubuntu are you using?15:42
holsteinashish__: have you tried the ppa steam suggests? have you tried 13.04? have you tried just using the open driver? why are you not using the opensource driver?15:42
saiarcot895holstein: he's on the fglrx proprietary drivers, and he had the same problem with the opensource driver15:42
joelmosomething is wrong with my apt-get, i get this error message i need to run `apt-get -f install`15:42
holsteinsaiarcot895: heat15:42
holstein?15:42
ActionParsnipashish__: did you use the legacy fglrx ppa?15:42
ashish__holstein, only display drivers are may not be the reason fr this much heating15:42
afflictoHow do I flush dns on ubuntu?15:43
saiarcot895holstein: yes15:43
joelmobut when i do that i get 'dpkg returned error'15:43
netlarblazemore I am on 13.0415:43
joelmoerror code 115:43
holsteinashish__: i have 2 machines here where only the display driver are the issue for the heat15:43
ActionParsnipafflicto: restart networking is one way, or reset dnsmasq15:43
netlarblazemore: I think it is the driver ath9k15:43
saiarcot895holstein: based on top, the process taking the most CPU is gnome_shell15:43
ashish__ActionParsnip, ya i used15:43
afflictoActionParsnip: reset dnsmasq?15:44
blazemorenetlar: It is15:44
netlarblazemore: I do not see it in synapic15:44
ashish__ubuntu13.04 xserver doesnt support my driver sp i downgrade to 12.0415:44
whoeverashish__: amd /vision tek cards in my experience will run hotter then you expect, it got to whare i had so many other probs with those cards i had to go to nvidex15:44
holsteinashish__: 12.04 is not supporting your driver.. have you tried the ppa? or 13.04 first hand?15:45
ActionParsnipafflicto: sudo service dnsmasq restart15:45
ActionParsnipashish__: 12.04 is LTS anyway, much better iimho15:45
doafterthinkhi,all15:45
bjoswaldAgreed15:45
holsteinashish__: if the vendor of your product does not support you, then you will need to experiment and troubleshoot15:45
netlarblazemore: I am on this page: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/Atheros15:45
ActionParsnipashish__: you could try an xorg.conf file to specify settings in the x server15:46
netlarblazemore: But should it be in the repository?15:46
blazemorenetlar: Generally you should try to find Ubuntu-specific solutions. Is your problem that your wireless is working but your bluetooth isn't?15:46
ashish__holstein, fisrt i use 13.04. in that no proper driver or fglrx driver support is there as fglrx not upgraded with new xorg so i downgrade to 12.04 and installed fglrrx15:46
holsteinashish__: if you had "proper" 12.04 support, you wouldnt be here15:47
netlarblazemore: yes exactly, nothing pairs up with the bluetooth15:47
holsteinashish__: have you tried the PPA that steam suggests?15:47
blazemorenetlar: Are you dual-booting with Windows?15:47
netlarblazemore: No I am not15:47
ashish__ActionParsnip, how to do that15:47
blazemorenetlar: Does your laptop have a hardware switch for bluetooth?15:47
ActionParsnipashish__: with lots of cursing and swearing15:48
ashish__holstein,please explain. i used ppa for installing drivers15:48
netlarblazemore: this is a desktop, no switch15:48
ActionParsnipashish__: its a very well documented file15:48
holsteinashish__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve#AMD.2BAC8-ATI_Graphics15:48
tyteen4a03Hi, trying to install nvidia drivers using this guide: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-ringtail-nvidia.html but I followed all the way to modprobe bit and it tells me nvidia_update is missing. am I missing something?15:48
ashish__holstein, i also called dell, i got the response that we ship laptop with ubuntu but dont provide any support for it15:49
holstein!nvidia | tyteen4a03 this is the guide i use15:49
ubottutyteen4a03 this is the guide i use: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto15:49
MoPacHello; I have a question about files or lines that can protect or override settings files. Example: in the ambience theme, I always want "colorize scrollbar" changed from false to true, and I hate having to manually do it every time that theme file has been replaced during an update.15:49
tyteen4a03holstein, oh thank you, will have a look15:50
MoPacOther example: I hate the shine on the launcher icons and have made icons that are blank. But they keep getting replaced during updates15:50
ActionParsniptyteen4a03: once you have nvidia-current installed just reboot. I assume you do not have a switchable GPU15:50
holsteinMoPac: i would try and find the config and back it up15:51
ashish_ActionParsnip, please give me the link of that file15:51
holstein!xorgconf15:51
ubottuThe /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is deprecated, but sometimes may still be needed to pass values to specific drivers. Generic xorg.conf generation: http://ubottu.com/y/xorgconf - ATI/AMD ( fglrx driver ) specific: http://ubottu.com/y/atiamd - NVidia ( nvidia driver )specific: http://ubottu.com/y/nvidia man xorg.conf for file structure and syntax.15:51
holsteinashish__: ^15:51
blazemoreMoPac: Make a copy of the themes you are editing, and call them MyTheme or MyIcons or whatever, then the updates won't overwrite them15:51
ActionParsnipashish_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/15:52
MoPacblazemore: holstein: I guess I was hoping that it might be possible to just protect certain files or certain lines of settings while letting updates work on other ones.  I didn't want to lock myself into today's version of everything forever if I could help it15:53
netlarblazemore: So ath9k was merged into the kernal.  That is why I do not see a seperate package for it?15:53
blazemorenetlar: Yes, ubuntu includes the ath9k module by default15:53
tyteen4a03ActionParsnip, oh yes, I don't15:54
fugutive221Hi everybody15:54
tyteen4a03ActionParsnip, in that case, thanks15:54
MoPacblazemore: holstein: I do have backups of my edited images and notes about my edited lines so that I can redo them when needed, but it's just gotten to be a pain15:54
holsteinMoPac: blazemore 's suggestion sounds like the first thing i would try... then make copies as needed of the config to recover15:54
netlarblazemore: huh, so bluetooth on my system should be supported15:54
fugutive221ActionParsnip: Still have the problem15:54
blazemorenetlar: Yeah, should be... which makes it more difficult to diagnose15:54
blazemore!bluetooth | netlar I assume you've been through this?15:55
ubottunetlar I assume you've been through this?: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup15:55
netlarblazemore: Does it matter that it is 4.0?15:55
blazemorenetlar: What is 4.0, sorry?15:55
holsteinfugutive221: if you direct the specifics of the "problem" to the entire channel, other volunteers may be able to help15:55
netlarblazemore: My bluetooth15:55
blazemoreIs 4.0 a bluetooth protocol version? (Sorry I don't know much about bluetooth itsself)15:55
tyteen4a03another issue - My cursor is flashing when I point to some locations, how do I fix that?15:55
tyteen4a03blazemore, yes15:55
fugutive221I have the following problem: I installed 13.04 and after a month the touchpad stopped working. How to solve this ?15:55
netlarblazemore: Yes, latest protocol15:56
blazemorefugutive221: You almost certainly disabled the touchpad by accident, by hitting a keyboard shortcut (usually Fn + a function key)15:56
netlarblazemore: Maybe I need to install the bluez package?15:56
holsteinfugutive221: i would try a live CD to be sure the hardware isnt broken.. i would try booting an older kernel, if an update seems to have broken it.. i agree blazemore ^^ about confirming the on/off switch15:57
fugutive221blazemore: I tryed that and it didn't solve the problem15:57
blazemorenetlar: bluez is just an application for managing bluetooth connections I believe... You could certainly try installing it15:57
blazemorefugutive221: Does the trackpad work if you boot from a LiveCD?15:57
linux_hacksfugutive221: were you able to use your touchpad with live cd ?15:57
blazemorefugutive221: Or any other OS on your machine?15:57
netlarblazemore: Just those instructions sent by the bot talks about it15:57
fugutive221holstein: I tried a live USB and have the same problem (even with lower versions such as: 12.10)15:57
Ace544Hello:15:57
blazemoreOK fugutive221 what model of laptop is it?15:57
Ace544I have a question if someone is available to help.15:58
linux_hacksAce544..just shoot15:58
holsteinfugutive221: then, the issue is not related to the operating system, it seems. if no other OS sees it, or a live CD15:58
Ace544Thanks linux_hacks!15:58
fugutive221blazemore: itĀ“s a Toshiba Satellite P870-33515:58
fugutive221holstein: the touchpad works fine in Windows15:58
tyteen4a03another issue - My cursor is flashing when I point to some locations, how do I fix that?15:59
Ace544I wrote to a USB flash Drive the Ubuntu OS and I installed it. Now I can't access my flash drive to use it for my files. How do I fix it?15:59
razzledazzlewhy does Windows share keep asking me for credentials?15:59
razzledazzlenothing works, even I supplied Windows username and password :|15:59
blazemoreAce544: You can use the Disk utility in Ubuntu to format the flash drive15:59
holsteinfugutive221: but, you cant get any live CD to use it?15:59
fugutive221holstein: I could try16:00
linux_hacksfugutuve221:  were you able to enable and disable in Mouse options ?16:00
fugutive221holstein: but has it another effect than a live USB?16:00
ActionParsniprazzledazzle: does your windows pc have a password?16:00
blazemorefugutive221: Could you please post the output of running the command "lspci -v" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com16:00
ActionParsniprazzledazzle: sorry, windows account?16:00
holsteinfugutive221: when i read "I tried a live USB and have the same problem (even with lower versions such as: 12.10)" that made me think you have tried live CD's16:00
razzledazzleActionParsnip, yes it does, I used it but it doesn't work16:00
linux_hacksfugutive221: honestly speaking the flash drive should be able to show as any USB stick16:01
linux_hacksthe list of files16:01
fugutive221holstein: No I tried live USB16:01
razzledazzleUbuntu share works perfectly with it though16:01
holsteinfugutive221: oh.. i see.. you are tring USB and i said CD.. that is irrelevant.. the live environment was waht i was going for.. USB/cd.. whatever16:01
linux_hackssorry that was meant to Ace54416:01
fugutive221blazemore: where should I paste it?16:02
razzledazzlebut not the other way, blank password, Windows credentials, Ubuntu credentials, nothing work, even the Domain name is in all caps16:02
blazemorefugutive221: http://paste.ubuntu.com16:02
linux_hacksAce544: restart system and connect the flash drive to see if it shows like any USB stick... for the files16:02
fugutive221blazemore: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5891245/16:02
explodesHoly crap16:02
explodesI used googles instructions here: http://www.chromium.org/tips-and-tricks-for-chromium-os-developers#TOC-Making-sudo-a-little-more-permissive16:02
explodessudo broke, I get: sudo: effective uid is not 0, is sudo installed setuid root?16:03
ActionParsniprazzledazzle: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue    and whet version of Windows are you connecting to?16:03
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explodeswhenever I run 'sudo x"16:03
blazemorefugutive221: Could you please do the same for "lsusb -v" ?16:03
Sazpaimoncan anyone please confirm if the latest bcmwl drivers support the new 802.11ac cards?16:03
Ace544It doesn't show as a drive or anything when I put it in the usb port. I can reboot and select it to install again, but I want to erase it and use it for my files again.... It wont let me access it.16:03
ActionParsnipexplodes: is this a VPS?16:03
Guest27232just now i rum power top and the output is Top causes for wakeups:16:03
bugtraqjoined16:03
Guest27232  71.5% (1157.9)   [Rescheduling interrupts] <kernel IPI>16:03
Guest27232   8.5% (137.1)   swapper/016:03
Guest27232   6.9% (112.5)   swapper/116:03
Guest27232   4.6% ( 74.2)   [ohci_hcd:usb3, ohci_hcd:usb4, fglrx[0]@PCI:1:5:0]16:03
FloodBot1Guest27232: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:03
razzledazzleits this ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l16:04
razzledazzleand yes Windows 716:04
explodesActionParsnip: No16:04
rosco_yHow do you set your mouse-buttons so you can click on the top border of a window to send it to the back of other windows?16:04
Guest27232floodBot sory i dont have sorry16:04
fugutive221blazemore: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5891252/16:04
ActionParsnipexplodes: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue16:04
fugutive221blazemore: The output was too long for the terminal16:04
razzledazzleversion 6.1 (Build 7600) to be precise16:05
ActionParsniprazzledazzle: do you have a firewall blocking the traffic?16:05
fugutive221holstein: feel free too help ;)16:05
ActionParsniprazzledazzle: http://www.7tutorials.com/how-access-windows-7-shared-folders-ubuntu16:05
blazemorefugutive221: Could you please do the same for "xinput list" ?16:05
linux_hacksAce544: can you try formatting the drive from gparted or any other disk manager?16:05
Guest27232ActionParsnip, have u seen my output if u have any idea. this is ashish16:05
markoAnybody real here16:06
explodesActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l16:06
blazemore!ask | marko16:06
fugutive221blazemore: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5891254/16:06
ubottumarko: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:06
Ace544I tried but I can't find it. I even tried to on my windows machine.16:06
razzledazzlethanks for the link ActionParsnip, I'll see if it works16:06
markoI need help with hacker16:06
ActionParsnipGuest27232: all I can suggest is use xorg.conf file16:06
ActionParsniprazzledazzle: http://askubuntu.com/questions/134249/connecting-to-windows-7-shares-from-12-0416:06
holsteinfugutive221: you cant get *any* live version of an operating system to use the touchpad?16:06
markoIs it possible to go through somebody  computer if i have their  Ip16:07
linux_hacksAce544: then I would think there is some problem with flash drive16:07
blazemorefugutive221: When you first asked your question, you said it used to work, is that true?16:07
ActionParsnipexplodes: http://askubuntu.com/questions/299384/ubuntu-sudo-not-working16:07
blazemore!ot | marko16:07
ubottumarko: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:07
fugutive221holstein: Do you mean Windows or another version of Ubuntu than 13.04 (the current version I'm using at the moment)16:07
ActionParsnipexplodes: boot to root recovery mode and set the file straight16:07
blazemorefugutive221: try gconftool-2 --set --type boolean /desktop/gnome/peripherals/touchpad/touchpad_enabled true16:07
holsteinfugutive221: *any* live operating system16:08
fugutive221blazemore: indeed it used to work for a month or so16:08
ActionParsnipexplodes: sounds like you chowned the file to your user, am I right?16:08
fugutive221holstein: sorry, but could you be more specific16:08
Ace544linux_hacks: It will work when I boot... I have Ubuntu ISO on it now. I can't get into it to access anything.16:08
holsteinfugutive221: sure.. do you run *any* live operating system and have the touchpad work?16:08
mhrwhich is the simple and best GUI manager for a bash script? I want to create a GUI for a bashscript in Ubuntu 12.04 32 bit.16:08
markoI'm not getting any help :(16:08
Ace544Except through the boot menu.16:08
ActionParsnipmhr: there is no single best anything for any situation]16:09
explodesActionParsnip: *I* didnt.16:09
blazemoremhr: IMO Zenity http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/make-your-scripts-user-friendly-zenity16:09
linux_hacksAce544:well do the destructive method: try again going to install ubuntu..then format the pen drive..16:09
fugutive221holstein: it works on Windows but not on any Ubuntu version (as far as I know) I run some test on serveral versions of Ubuntu16:09
ActionParsnipmhr: if you want to run a bash script, use a terminal16:09
Wulframnmarko, You want to know if it is possible to hack into someone's computer if you have their ip address? 1) That is not an Ubuntu related question, which is what this room is for and 2) we don't really do stuff like that.16:09
blazemoremhr: It's certainly simple, and almost certainly is what you want16:09
WulframnLike, at all16:09
explodesActionParsnip: and the permission on /usr look just fine16:09
ActionParsnipexplodes: well someone has, it needs setting back16:09
Ace544linux_hacks: How do I do that?16:09
ActionParsnipexplodes: use root recovery and set it right16:09
explodesk16:10
explodes15minutes16:10
linux_hacksAce544: use the same flash drive to boot..16:10
markowulframn i just want to know if it is possible to do that things , if there exist any program i may find it after16:10
holsteinmarko: this is not really an ubuntu support question that i read. what are you trying to do? remote support?16:10
ldurosis ubuntu.com unresponsive?16:10
linux_hacksAce544: once you get to the place where you are formatting the disks..then select the pendrive to get formatted.16:10
ldurostrying to get my hands on a ubuntu 12.04 server iso16:10
markoholstein im new here i dont know  much about this site16:10
mhrActionParsnip, I want to have a GUI to take inputs etc. which in turn executes bash script for processing.16:10
ActionParsniplduros: www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com16:10
ActionParsnip!server16:10
ubottuUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server16:10
fugutive221blazemore: It still isn working?16:11
blazemorelduros: According to a bot in another channel, ubuntu.com is up16:11
fugutive221blazemore: or should I first restart the system?16:11
lduroshmm16:11
ldurosweird16:11
fugutive221blazemore: is not working*16:11
holsteinmarko: whats your question?16:11
mhrblazemore, ok I will look into zenity16:11
ActionParsnipmhr: zenity is decent16:11
ActionParsniplduros: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise16:12
markoHolstein My question is easy can i hack somebody computer if i  know their ip16:12
blazemoremarko: Yes you can. Now, on your way.16:12
holsteinmarko: this is not a "hacking" channel.. i would go to networking or security venues16:12
icerootmarko: you should learn what hacking means and dont waste our time with such stupid questions16:12
DJonesmarko: Thats not something you'll get help with here16:12
markoLol calm down people  i just wanted to know16:13
icerootmarko: have a look at google for example at "kernel hacker" or "richard stallman" so see what hacking means16:13
ActionParsnipone more script kid for the pile16:13
icerootActionParsnip: +116:13
holsteinmarko: when you /join a channel, check the /topic , and you'll know what is on topic for the channels you are in16:13
localh0stI still can't handle this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2163761&p=12737437#post1273743716:14
markokernel hacking is   for linux i use xp holstein ok16:14
localh0stCan anyone take a look?16:14
mhrthanks ActionParsnip and blazemore. will go through zenity16:14
holstein!ot | marko16:14
ubottumarko: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:14
blazemorelocalh0st: try this:16:14
blazemorelocalh0st: "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install"16:14
fugutive221blazemore: would it help if I deleted Ubuntu from my system, to let it work again?16:15
blazemorefugutive221: You mean a nice, clean, reinstall? I *always* advocate a lovely fresh install16:15
linux_hacksAce544: As final resort.. try this16:15
linux_hackshttp://www.ehow.com/how_7184106_format-flash-drive-ubuntu.html16:15
localh0stblazemore: makes no difference16:15
fugutive221blazemore: Ok thanks for your time and help!16:16
fugutive221holstein: Thanks for your time and help16:16
holsteinfugutive221: good luck.. i know its frustrating tracking that kind of thing down16:16
fugutive221holstein: thanks16:16
fugutive221holstein: It is frustrating indeed16:17
holsteinfugutive221: the live media is a way of isolating the operating system.. in theory, the live CD should act as a fresh install will16:18
blazemorelocalh0st: What is the output of running the above command, please? Use http://paste.ybyty.com16:18
blazemorelocalh0st: http://paste.ubuntu.com rather...16:18
fugutive221holstein: Would there be a difference then in a Live USB and Live CD ?16:18
holsteinfugutive221: no16:18
blazemorefugutive221: no16:18
fugutive221Ok: Got it ?16:19
holsteinfugutive221: when i say "live CD" i mean live.. from whatever source.. CD, DVD, USB.. your phone.. live is the point, not the media16:19
fugutive221I think I will stop with chatting now and enjoy the weather here :D16:19
fugutive221Bye!16:19
holsteinfugutive221: good plan.. me too16:19
explodes1How do I drop into a terminal on the live cd?16:20
krzwhats a good stat monitor? im looking for something like conky, lighter that sits on the taskbar16:20
blazemoreexplodes1: open a terminal app, or ctrl+alt+F516:20
irreverantI know this is Ubuntu but can anyone tell me the difference between knopper.net/knoppix and knoppix.net?16:21
explodes1blazemore: From the LIVE CD16:21
explodes1From Grub16:21
opsssHi folks :)) anyone to help me pls? After intall MATE Desktop to my Ubuntu 13.03, not inposible to login. Any ideas how to fix this?16:21
razzledazzleActionParsnip, I solved it. added "client lanman auth = yes" and "client ntlmv2 auth = no" in the /etc/samba/smb.conf file. But I read that this is for older version of Windows and I even have enabled 128-bit encryption on there.16:21
k1l_irreverant: better ask the knoppix support or ##linux16:21
blazemoreexplodes1: put the word "recovery"on the kernel line16:22
krzanyone?16:22
k1l_opsss: see the linux mint support since MATE is not supported by the ubuntu community16:22
blazemore!patience | krz16:23
ubottukrz: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/16:23
opsssok k1l_ how to used classic gnome to my ubuntu ?16:23
holsteink1l_: not much lighter than conky16:23
wilee-nileeopsss, closest is the fallback16:23
k1l_krz: multiload systemmonitor indicator?16:23
k1l_opsss: xubuntu for example. or the gnome-fallback/-classic16:24
krzk1l_: is that the name of the software?16:25
ActionParsniprazzledazzle: I see, funky stuff. Glad you got the gold16:25
wilee-nileeopsss, if your running 13.04 cinnamon is in the repos16:25
localh0stblazemore: http://pastebin.com/qfP7p5L216:25
bryant203is there a good way to increase the framerate of my monitor? it's quite laggy and moving the mouse leaves trails. running ubuntu 13.04 on dell xps over hdmi.16:25
matematikaaditI don't have any idea whether my gnome-terminal support 256 colors or not.16:25
razzledazzle:D16:26
opsssk1l_, wilee-nilee to "fallback" inposible to edin menu/bar and how to edit. i want to add more applications for my panel.16:26
explodes1Booting with the Ubuntu CD, I'm at the screen that says "Install Ubuntu Server." How do I drop into a terminal? ALT+CTRL+F1 doesn't work...16:26
localh0stblazemore: i see this package contains my dependencies: http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-13.04/ubuntu-main-amd64/xserver-xorg-core_1.13.3-0ubuntu6_amd64.deb.html  , but it's already installed16:26
wilee-nileeopsss, You know of the alt key in that scenario right?16:26
aegisHi all.  I'm experiencing DNS leaks on my VPN because while the resolvconf package pulls the DNS servers for my VPN it simply adds them to my current list of DNS servers and if the new ones fail it eventually leaks out my local BIND9 DNS server.  Any ideas how to tackle this?16:27
opssswilee-nilee, no, i dont know for alt :)16:27
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wilee-nileeopsss, I was helping another and discovered that as far as adding to panel...etc.16:28
drasko_blazemore, any ideas on : http://i.imgur.com/83CLoKi.png16:28
blazemoredrasko_: I'm about to go home actually (half five yay) but hopefully someone else can look at your bootchart and help you diagnose your slow boot time16:29
wilee-nileeopsss, I have not messed with the fallback but I think it is alt-rightclick16:29
drasko_actually I am interested why Bootchart starts at 15s16:30
drasko_that;s too late16:30
ankan_hey, where can i find my drivers of msi ms-7507 for my ubuntu 12.10 studio16:30
drasko_I can see that after this line : [    2.609761] EXT4-fs (mmcblk0p1): mounting ext3 file system using the ext4 subsystem16:30
drasko_there is about 5 sec hang16:30
skutr34Hi. I just installed Ubuntu 13.04, and I am having trouble connecting to my WiFi network. Connecting to the network takes a long time, if it does work. Most of the time however, the connection fails. Can someon please help?16:30
opssswilee-nilee, my english is not good and i don`t undrastand eyrifing, but "alt-rightclick" work only move the panel from left and right, not for add another panel or application.16:31
localh0stwhile apt-get update: http://pastebin.com/MZ5bhqva blazemore16:31
Nmbr1skutr34: can you connect to your WiFi with other devices? ##networking might be a better place to ask if it is not Ubuntu specific.16:31
skutr34Nmbr1: Yes. I can. I have determined that it is Ubuntu specific, and that it might be because of my Realtek chip16:32
drasko_anyone any ideas about extremely slow boot process ?16:32
krzk1l_: is it system load indicator?16:33
trismopsss: you have to click on open space in the panel to add a new applet (you can't alt+right click another applet, because that shows different options)16:33
wilee-nileeopsss, The video I saw had the user adding apps like gnome 2, but honestly gnome 2 is dead, and adaptation is why we are not roaming the savannah with spears. ;)16:33
k1l_krz: indicator multiload16:34
nedbatI have a memory-intensive python program that uses subprocess.Popen to spawn subprocesses.  It fails on the fork() with an OSError indicating out of memory.  I thought fork() would use copy-on-write, so the fork() itself wouldn't use a lot of additional memory.  What am I missing?16:34
k1l_krz: see this: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/indicator-multiload-update-brings.html16:35
ezra-snedbat, you probably chose the wrong channel, have you tried #python ?16:35
Nmbr1skutr34: which realtek chip do you have?16:35
skutr34Nmbr1: I cannot recall. What is the command?16:36
nedbatezra-s: I have, but it's the fork() call that's running out of memory.  I'm trying to understand in which circumstances will fork() copy the pages instead of marking them as copy-on-write?16:36
Nmbr1skutr34: lspci -nn | grep 'Wireless'16:36
opsssok tnx for help trism wilee-nilee :)16:36
explodes1mount: mouting /dev/sda1 on /mnt/x failed: No such file or directory16:37
skutr34Nmbr1:  Ralink corp. RT5390 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe [1814:5390]16:37
explodes1I did "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/explod16:37
nedbatwhen does fork() actually copy memory pages, rather than just marking them as copy-on-write?16:39
ffiohow can i built ubuntu distro from scratch ?16:40
sixyearsofdreams@.@16:41
sixyearsofdreamshow can you built it huh16:41
k1l_ffio: do you mean you want to install a minimal system and then install what you want? go with the minimal install :)16:41
sixyearsofdreamsnope16:41
Nmbr1skutr34: are you trying to connect to an 802.11a AP with your Realtek 5390 (a/b/g/n)?16:41
sixyearsofdreamshe wants scratch ;d16:41
skutr34Nmbr1: I just installed the linux-firmware-nonfree package. Does that have ralink firmware in it?16:41
Nmbr1skutr34: not sure - from doing some searches this seems to be a driver specific not Ubuntu specific issue16:42
skutr34Nmbr1: I am not sure. I do not have much networking experience.16:42
ffiok1l_: i want to built it from scratch starting from ground zero.16:42
rblsthello all16:42
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Nmbr1skutr34: i'm sorry i can't help much on this one, if no one else can offer any suggestions i would try ##networking16:42
skutr34Nmbr1: I can connect fine on Windows.16:42
k1l_ffio: then read about "linux from scratch" . but that is too offtopic for this channel16:43
rblstkernel headers in /usr/src have eaten up almost 50% of my inodes; do i really need the kernel headers to be there?16:43
skutr34Nmbr1: Okay. I will do a reboot just for giggles and see if it does anything.16:43
sixyearsofdreamsffio16:43
ffiok1l_: ok16:43
sixyearsofdreamsyou better have some good coding background :D16:43
ffiosixyearsofdreams: in which lang ?16:43
sixyearsofdreamslinux from scratch isnt easy16:43
ffiosixyearsofdreams: ok16:44
sixyearsofdreamsffio: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/16:44
ffiosixyearsofdreams: :)16:44
sixyearsofdreamslike k1l_ said, best place to start :)16:44
ffiothanks k1l_ and sixyearsofdreams :)16:44
Nmbr1skutr34: see if the solution here (for a different version) works for you http://askubuntu.com/questions/178547/connection-drops-out-regularly-with-a-ralink-rt280016:44
Nmbr1skutr34: there was also an LP ticket opened for Ubuntu and RT5390 3 months ago. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/117375916:45
ubottuUbuntu bug 1173759 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu 13.04 can detect wi-fi but can't connect" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:45
explodesWhen I start up with an Ubuntu Server 13.04 CD, how do I drop into terminal?16:46
explodesInto any shell...16:47
yeatsexplodes: Alt-F2 (through F7)16:47
explodesyeats: None of those combos worked16:48
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trismnedbat: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1367373/python-subprocess-popen-oserror-errno-12-cannot-allocate-memory/13329386#1332938616:48
DesyncHello, are there any directly affiliated ubuntu people in here16:49
icerootexplodes: its ctrl + alt + f1 to access tty1 not ctrl + f116:49
iceroot!ask | Desync16:49
ubottuDesync: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:49
yeatsiceroot: from a GUI, yes16:49
nedbattrism: can you answer questions I have about that answer?16:49
yeatsin the debian installer environment, Alt-F1 through F7 should function16:50
tubaguy50035Hello all.  I have an Ubuntu VM on a VMWare cluster.  We're trying to restore a backup and the restored VM is hanging on "init: udev-fallback-graphics main process terminated".  Any thoughts what that might be?16:51
yeatsexplodes: what's your end goal, are you trying to install? rescue a system? etc.16:51
trismnedbat: would depend on the question I suppose16:51
nedbattrism: I thought fork() would mark pages as copy-on-write, because usually an execve is about to happen, so they'll never need to be actually copied.  Clearly, that's a naive understanding, because something else is happening here.  Can you explain the fuller picture?16:53
backboxgetting really bored of linux problems someone can help me i have a ubuntu that i modified by adding kali tools to it.. the aircrack works perfectly but when i try backbox in live mode from a usb key i cant do injections...16:53
sixyearsofdreamswhats backbo16:53
sixyearsofdreamsx16:53
wilee-nileebackbox, none of that is supported here.16:54
backboxbackbox 3.0516:54
trismnedbat: it is not necessarily about copy-on-write, the kernel still need to allocate structures during the fork which takes memory too16:54
backboxis a pentest tool16:54
nedbattrism: but I assume that memory is relatively small, no?16:55
krzcan i do sudo apt-get install for two different applications? i.e. can i isntall 2 different applications at a time?16:55
wilee-nileekrz, Yes16:55
Mathisenapt-get install name name name name name16:55
yeatskrz: you can 'sudo apt-get install app1 app2...'16:55
Mathisenas many as you like16:55
krzwell i meant in two terminal windows16:55
Desyncas far as the future of ubuntu to the consumer/business market, what are they planning to do in regards to integration/support for running certain critical applications (i.e. - Quickbooks with payroll for whatever latest calendar year it may be)? It seems to be the main thing keeping a majority of small business users from making the transition from microsoft. Myself being on of those in that possible customer base for their advanced suppo16:55
Desyncrt they sell.16:55
krznow in one line16:55
krznow=not16:56
wilee-nileekrz, no16:56
yeatskrz: nope16:56
MonkeyDustDesync  that's for #ubuntu-offtopic16:56
Desyncthank you16:56
trismnedbat: plus there is the overcommit policy: sysctl vm.overcommit_memory; which on my ubuntu system is set to 0, so it makes choices about how much memory it allows you to overcommit16:56
trismnedbat: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/vm/overcommit-accounting16:58
nedbattrism: if I can read between the lines here: overcommiting means the fork() is alerting the OS that it will eventually need X pages, and if there aren't X pages available, it gets an out of mem error even without copying, but if I change this setting, it will let it continue?16:58
trismnedbat: yes you could try setting it to 1 and see what happens16:58
trismnedbat: may not work too well16:59
nedbattrism: understood (and assumed!) :)16:59
nedbattrism: thanks16:59
krzwhy isnt postgres 9.2 available in ubuntu package manager (apt-get)?17:00
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febLeyWhere is the panel to set the mouse acceleration?17:02
wilee-nileekrz, Think about that question for a momoent.17:02
krzwilee-nilee: done17:02
wilee-nileelol17:02
jman074Hello everyone17:03
wilee-nileefebLey, Might it be mouse & touchpad?17:03
egolostanyone having issues having to delete cookies to get into facebook with the 12.04.2 LTS?17:03
egolostOn both firefox and chrome.17:04
kostkonkrz, you could have a look at the ubuntu update policy if you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates17:04
febLeywilee-nilee not there anymore =/17:04
wilee-nileefebLey, what release?17:04
febLey13.0417:04
wilee-nileeand desktop17:04
ZalTrying to upgrade a package. "apt-cache policy <package>" shows "Installed: 1.85-001, Candidate 1.85-002", but "apt-get install --reinstall <package>" tries to reinstall 001 instead of upgrading to 002. I've never seen this behavior before, can anyone tell me what might be causing it?17:04
febLeysure17:04
wilee-nileefebLey, Hmm it's in mine17:04
febLeyi only have pointer speed and double click17:05
kostkonZal, try cleaning your package cache and then retry, by giving:  sudo apt-get clean17:05
krzkostkon: ty17:05
wilee-nileefebLey, pointer speed is acceleration I believe it is just very developed I think.17:06
Zalkostkon, thanks, same result though, apt-get install uses the older package.17:06
jman074so im playing a game online and got to a certain point and a message from adobe popped up asking to allow or deny to save information on my computer. so for some reason i can't click on allow or deny! what do i do17:06
febLeywilee-nilee hmm17:07
kostkonZal, are you getting any errors when trying to isntall your updates?  sudo apt-get upgrade17:07
febLeyseems like this is it17:07
wilee-nileefebLey, sorry not very developed17:07
BluesKajkrz, look for postresSQL in the software center17:07
febLeywilee-nilee but can't i set the mouse sensivity seperate from the acceleration?17:08
Zalkostkon, I haven't tried "upgrade" yet, just "install --reinstall". What confuses me is that "install --reinstall" has always upgraded for me in the past, as far as I know.17:08
Zalkostkon, that said, this is a new version of ubuntu for me, so apt-get may be acting differently than I expect17:09
BluesKajkrz, my mistake , postgresSQL , rather17:09
wilee-nileefebLey, Not sure really, not an area I have had to tweak that often.17:09
kostkonZal, maybe there are some dependency problems with that package17:09
kostkonZal, try doing a sudo ap-get update and then try again17:10
Zalkostkon, could be, but in my case no attempt is made to install the new package at all. I did "update" a few times already, and "apt-cache policy" does see the newer candidate.17:10
kostkonZal, that's strange yeah17:11
kostkonZal, is the newer version coming from the same repo?17:11
Zalkostkon, ok, well thanks for verifying the strangeness :-) Yes, same repo, same priority, later version number.17:11
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kostkonZal, official ubuntu repo? then you could try changing your mirror17:12
jman074 so im playing a game online and got to a certain point and a message from adobe popped up asking to allow or deny to save information on my computer. so for some reason i can't click on allow or deny! what do i do17:12
Zalkostkon, no, this is my own repo, custom package17:12
danielboston26jman074:  ive seen that same issue17:13
kostkonZal, oh. then i suppose you need to check again what deps have you set for that package17:13
danielboston26appears to be an adobe bug17:13
jman074danielboston26 any luck with it17:13
Zalkostkon, well, the thing is, those deps are never checked because apt never tries to install it17:13
danielboston26jman074:  its happened to me on mac and windows17:13
abuscuscan you x11 forward mac applications?17:13
kostkonZal, and if they are satisfiable by taking into account the package vers in the repos and in your own repo17:14
kostkonZal, hmm17:14
Zalwierd, right?17:14
danielboston26jman074:  the only way ive found around it is to change premissions in the adobe preferances17:14
kostkonZal, nevertheless, i believe something is wrong with your pacakge ;)17:14
danielboston26jman074:  is there such a thing on linux?17:14
danielboston26jman074:  on the mac its in system preferances17:14
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jman074danielboston26 ive told it to allow but other then that i don't know.17:15
danielboston26jman074:  it could be the same on windows it might be a website17:15
Zalkostkon, there *is* something wrong with the older package, that's why I rebuilt it and tried to install the new one. Maybe something about that confused debconf/apt. (I've also purged debconf for that package)17:15
xanguajman074: so you mean a flash gameĀæ the inability to check those buttos is a fix that is never gonna be fixed; you can install adobe-flashplugin fron software center wich install a gtk settings manager for flash17:15
kostkonZal, hmm17:15
danielboston26jman074:  can you click cancel?17:15
jman074danielboston26 i can't click anything17:16
kostkonZal, so both are coming from your own repo17:16
danielboston26t only wants to save cookies to your system17:16
Zalkostkon, yes17:16
danielboston26jman074: if you can get into adobe preferances either allow all or tell it to stop bothering you17:16
danielboston26jman074: thats how i fixed it17:16
Zalkostkon, and apt-cache policy sees both!17:16
Zaldefinitely losing some beard over this one17:17
danielboston26jman074: you can try complaining to adobe but idk how succesful you will be17:17
danielboston26jman074:  that bug has been around fore awhil17:17
kostkonZal, try killing the old one :P17:17
kostkonZal, remove it from your repo17:17
jman074danielboston26 im looking at my options in there again. theres suppose to be a way you can manually select the allow button but pushin something with tab then hit enter but i don't remember17:17
danielboston26jman074: do you know if you have the current vesion of flash?17:17
kostkonZal, oh what am i saying sorry17:17
Zalkostkon, hm, that actually worked: removing the package and then running apt-get install got me the new package17:18
kostkonZal, eer i don't know what else to suggest. i havent really setup my own repo, apart from using ppas17:18
Zalnutty17:18
Zalkostkon, thanks for your help, I'm not sure I understand what's going on, but some progress is better than none :-)17:19
kostkonZal, lol it was simple after all17:19
kostkonZal, indeed17:19
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Zalyeah, but I need to upgrade in place as well. I'll have to figure out what happened somehow.17:19
Zalperhaps if the older package doesn't fail to install then the new one will be used next time.17:20
kostkonZal, probably17:20
Zalkostkon, cool, appreciate the conversation/debugging17:20
BenjaminRHHey. I'm having an odd problem with a fresh install of 13.04 on a new laptop.17:20
kostkonZal, no probs :)17:21
linux_hacksBenjaminRH: Whats that17:21
BenjaminRHWhen I boot up, Ubuntu skips showing grub at all, and the screen goes black. If I close the lid (to put it to sleep) then wake it up again, everything works fine.17:21
BenjaminRHI've got an nvidia discrete card and an integrated intel one, with optimus, which might be a culprit. Bumblebee can't seem to find the card and nothing shows up in additional drivers, but lspci finds it17:22
holsteinBenjaminRH: i like to call that a "work-around" ;)17:22
sveinseWhat going on with the ubuntu.com website? It soooo slow. All others respond quickly17:23
linux_hackswell.. Nvidia card has problem but it shouldn't be problem with Ubuntu atleast17:23
holsteinBenjaminRH: you'll need to purge whatever PA's to do an constructive support here.. you might prefer to just go with the bumblebee team17:23
venkathas anybody tried beaker test automation tool in ubuntu17:23
BenjaminRHholstein: PA?17:23
holsteinBenjaminRH: ppa's17:24
BenjaminRHholstein: this is another fresh install, it shouldn't have any17:24
holsteinBenjaminRH: i didnt know bumblebee was added to the repos, sorry17:25
BenjaminRHah17:25
BenjaminRHoh hang on17:26
BenjaminRHI take that back. It seems I did add x-swat17:28
michoo_hello17:28
BenjaminRHAlright. Let me reinstall and try that again17:28
michoo_how can i configure my wireless in ubuntu 13.04????17:28
holsteinBenjaminRH: ppa's arent officiay supported, which is a drag for you since you need those packages likely for the dula GPU17:28
michoo_plz help17:28
holsteindual*17:28
holstein!wifi17:29
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs17:29
holsteinmichoo_: ^^17:29
BenjaminRHholstein: i have no problem just disabling the second gpu entirely.17:29
michoo_yes its wifi17:29
BenjaminRHholstein: I have no idea how to do that, though17:29
holsteinBenjaminRH: sure.. but, you need support for it, AFAIK.. thats the way mine works17:29
holsteinBenjaminRH: there is not bios switch for mine17:29
BenjaminRHholstein: or mine17:29
arooni-mobilei just ran the SMART long test; and disk utility reports i have 2179 pending sectors;  i think this is 'bad sectors'.  all other hard drive tests pass.  is this hard drive going to die soon?17:30
wilee-nileearooni-mobile, How would we know?17:33
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wilee-nileealll HD's die eventually it is not as if they inform you.17:34
michoo_my /etc/network/interfaces is empty17:34
wilee-nileearooni-mobile, being backed up is your insurance if it happens.17:35
wilee-nileemichoo_, Can you identify the card?17:35
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michoo_i have pavillion tx200017:36
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netlarInteresting, just read this http://blog.projectnibble.org/2010/08/08/how-ubuntus-broken-bluetooth-support-came-to-be/17:36
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wilee-nileemichoo_, Lok at the link you will notice tons of links, in order t get help here we need exact hardware.17:37
netlarSeems to be lots of problems with bluetooth17:37
michoo_i wanna try backports but i cant find it for 13.0417:38
wilee-nileemichoo_, If you just randomly try to fix this you will most likely not get it done, you have to start with identifying the wireless hardware period.17:39
* mecool :)17:40
netlarWhy is Ubuntu not using Bluez 5?17:41
michoo_its Broadcom17:41
wilee-nilee!broadcom | michoo_17:42
ubottumichoo_: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx17:42
michoo_bcmwl517:43
bhearsumwhere can i find the list of _actual_ dns servers being used? /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf points at dnsmasq, and /var/lib/misc/dnsmasq.leases is empty on my system...17:43
bhearsumas is /etc/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.conf17:43
michoo_broadcom  bcmwl517:44
netlarMaybe they will be including Bluez 5 in 13.10?17:46
wilee-nileemichoo_, Take a look at the last bot link, generally this channel does not do everything for you, if you can't do it then you may find someone who will try to help you, but those people can be hard to find at times. ;)17:46
wilee-nileeempathy is a scarce commodity17:47
marlinc:o the teaser was removed from the Ubuntu website17:47
wilee-nileemarlinc, The 4 days until one?17:48
marlincYup17:48
wilee-nileemarlinc, I figured it was stallman was god and shutleworth his child17:49
trismnetlar: bug 116278117:49
ubottubug 1162781 in bluez (Ubuntu) "bluez package out of date, 5.3 is available" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116278117:49
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marlincLol :P17:49
wilee-nileelinus is the holy ghost17:50
BluesKajbhearsum, your modem/router is probly autoseet to your ISP's dns server, and setting it to the google dns might be your best bet if you use network manager to mange your connections17:50
bhearsumBluesKaj: right...but how do i see what it _is_ set to?17:50
bhearsumi'm trying to help debug an issue with my local network17:50
BluesKajbhearsum, can you access your modem/router settings ?17:51
netlartrism: Thanks17:51
bhearsumBluesKaj: no - i'm on a corporate network17:51
bhearsumand part of what i'm debugging is what the dhcp server is giving me17:51
anoneehello folks! is it normal that on GNOME Applications menu if I right-click an item it just opens? just like when i left-click it? and why when I drag any item to the desktop it makes a link there, except for home, I had to make a link using terminal, one last question: is it OK to make a hard link to my home folder on my desktop? or the overlapping will cause problems to some apps?17:52
wilee-nileeanonee, What release and what desktop?17:53
anoneewilee-nilee its 12.04.2 GNOME Classic 3.4 (fallback mode)17:53
wilee-nileeanonee, dconfeditor has the add home..etc17:54
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randomperson3089Hi there! Funny question, can I install Ubuntu without X at all?17:55
wilee-nileeno17:55
wilee-nileeas a server yes17:55
trismanonee: the right click to mess with items in the Applications menu was removed a while ago, now it is just a regular menu, and you can right click all of those17:55
wilee-nileerandomperson3089, There are a ton of light desktops if that is your general goal.17:56
BluesKajbhearsum, so what is your network issue and how does it relate to dns ?17:57
anoneetrism I've heard the same but for the panel, now I have to <Super>+<Alt>+right-click to modify or delete something, but even this is not working on menu items :(17:57
bhearsumBluesKaj: my issue is that i'd like to know what dns servers are actually being used to resolve things17:57
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BluesKajbhearsum, check /etc/resolv.conf17:59
bhearsumBluesKaj: that points at 127.0.1.1, which is dnsmasq...17:59
trismanonee: if you are using the compiz fallback session that's true, compiz can capture that sequence, so it is kind of buggy17:59
trismanonee: it works fine with just alt+right click in the metacity session17:59
BluesKajthere are no nameservers listed there , bhearsum ?17:59
bhearsumBluesKaj: nameserver 127.0.1.118:00
trismanonee: oh sorry I misread that, again the code was removed to modify the menu items at all18:00
trismanonee: they are just normal menu items now18:00
BluesKajbhearsum, what about network manager18:00
k1l_randomperson3089: do a server install18:01
trismanonee: https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-panel/commit/?id=c1ab7e84f6478a826a746d5999d95f2fcbe13d4f18:01
SuperLagAny of you use do OCR with your Ubuntu installs? if so, what do you use?18:01
bhearsumBluesKaj: which part of NetworkManager? the section associated with my current connection has nothing in it18:02
wilee-nilee!any | SuperLag18:02
wilee-nilee!anyone18:02
ubottuA high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.18:02
anoneetrism i see, so how can i tell where this item is taking its icon from (for example), btw I added a "scripts" item to the right-click menu and I'm dragging an item to the desktop, right-clicking that item to know where it's taking it's icon from, but the script is showing only the icon name but no path, which is useless... any idea?18:03
anoneeits*18:04
AnninhaOi18:05
AnninhaOIi18:05
AnninhaOlƔ18:05
randomperson3089Hmm.. there is no X in server install? I thought there was...18:05
k1l_randomperson3089: no18:05
trismanonee: it will come from the current icon theme if it is just a name, though it can be a bit challenging to find since themes can inherit from each other, so you may need to search through several to find the icon18:06
yann2Hi guys! About 10 hours ago there was a big teaser on ubuntu.com about "Two surfaces coming together" or something like that, with an announcement like "4 days left". Now it's just gone? So no announcement? :'(18:08
anoneetrism I've gone through all the inheritance way but no joy, I'm dealing with a special case, but what about the page link you sent I'm new to this, is it a script that I can use to add back that function?18:08
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p0lym47h#help18:08
trismanonee: no that's just the commit that removed the functionality, it would technically be possible to add it back, but I think it would still be broken for gtk3 so not much use without further work18:09
trismanonee: which icon are you looking for?18:10
anoneetrism it's called minbar it's for prayer times18:11
SuperLagwilee-nilee: as you can see.... I *did* ask my question.18:12
wilee-nileeSuperLag, No that was a poll, and off topic.18:12
wilee-nilee!poll18:12
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.18:12
SuperLagwilee-nilee: it's not a poll. jesus.18:12
SuperLagwilee-nilee: I've never done OCR on a Linux box. I'm wondering what works.18:12
QnDhi all - does anyone know a good netstat graphical monitor for gnome...  I need to also log port connections without IPT18:13
medoohey guys , what software should i use to make usb ( ubuntu install )18:13
wilee-nileeSuperLag, the channel makes th e rules it is pretty straight forward this is support, state a problem if you have one not a drama fest.18:13
trismanonee: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/128x128/apps/minbar.png is that the icon?18:13
reisiomedoo: from Windows?18:13
medoowindows 718:13
reisiomedoo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#From_Windows18:13
SuperLagwilee-nilee: I just did. For the second time. Your rudeness is unbecoming.18:14
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reisioSuperLag: tesseract, ocrad18:14
medooreisio : from a day ago 2 supporters give me a name of another one !18:14
QnD<- did alot of work with tesseract18:15
SuperLagreisio: are those just backends, and they require some front end to work, as well?18:15
SuperLagQnD: ^^18:15
kostkon!unetbootin | medoo18:15
ubottumedoo: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent18:15
medooi tried unebootine and say to me BOOTMGR not found18:15
wilee-nileeSuperLag, top of a OCR ubuntu google search https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OCR18:15
kostkonmedoo, ah18:15
medoois there alternative to unetbootin18:16
reisioSuperLag: if they're any good they're backends, yes18:16
reisiomedoo: think I just gave you one18:16
medoo?18:16
medooi think there's one called onforecorder or something18:17
reisiowhy think when you can query your package manager18:17
gribouillehi18:17
reisiohi gribouille18:17
gribouilleI have want to install several ubuntu versions on lvm volumes, do I ahve to create several /boot partitions?18:18
SuperLagOh yeah. Speaking of querying package managers. I see apt-cache search queries both name and description by default. There's also a switch to query name only. Can you query the description only?18:18
QnDif u want to PM me I have a ton of info on tesseract,  API and training aswell18:18
reisiogribouille: you don't even have to create one18:18
reisiogribouille: but why install several18:18
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reisioSuperLag: if you can't with apt-cache, you no doubt can with some other tool18:19
gribouillereisio, because I don't to upgrade in place18:19
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SuperLagreisio: I'm wasn't aware there were other options.18:19
gribouillereisio, do you mean there is no need of /boot partitions?18:19
medoo!help18:19
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:19
SuperLagQnD: done.18:19
wilee-nileemedoo, What is your goal here?18:20
reisiogribouille: in general, yes, no need18:20
medooi wanna a program for USB install ubuntu ( in windows )18:20
wilee-nileemedoo, Take a look at pendrivelinux there are several, and be sure to check the sum on the ISO.18:21
medoo?18:21
reisiomedoo: you've already been given several18:21
medoo??18:21
wilee-nileemedoo, a ? means nothing.18:21
medoomeans what you are talking about18:21
holsteinmedoo: i use unetbootin.. used to use it in windows18:22
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wilee-nilee!attitude | medoo18:22
ubottumedoo: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines18:22
gribouillereisio, but I recently installed raring, and the installer used lvm, but it created a separate /boot partition18:22
holsteinmedoo: we are talking about suggestions to the question you asked.. pendrivelinux and unetbootin18:22
SuperLagholstein: interesting. I thought unetbootin was just a Linux util.18:22
QnDsuperLag ????18:22
medoounerbootin as a made with , give me BOOTMGR not found18:22
holsteinSuperLag: i used to use it in windows..18:22
SuperLagQnD: sent you a PM18:22
reisiogribouille: probably just convention for that version18:22
arc__hi i have a question when i upgraded i lost all of my packages18:22
holsteinmedoo: i format before each use..18:22
reisioarc__: there should be a log in /var/ you can use to get them back18:23
wilee-nileearc__, How did you upgrade?18:23
euxneksmedoo, also make sure the iso you're using is a liveCD18:23
holsteinmedoo: if the stick is bad, or the iso is bad, the software wont "fix" it18:23
gribouillereisio, how do I do If I want to put everything on lvm?18:23
QnDok18:23
arc__i use a live usb and the upgrade install18:23
reisiomanually, no doubt18:23
SuperLagreisio: that's going to suck for him. :)18:23
reisioyeah, but so will wasting time doing multiple installs, too18:24
arc__where in /var/ will the log be18:24
SuperLagreisio: agreed18:24
david_Hello everyone, quick question: I'm installing Ubuntu on a netbook that has two ssd disks: one with 4GB and another with 8GB. Can I create two logical partitions with the two disks both with mount point on / ?18:24
wilee-nileearc__, I guess there is s option to save your stuff, I am not sure of it myself, are you backed up?18:24
gribouillereisio, do you mean choose the volume for / manually?18:24
arc__if this help it said in the upgrade unable to restore packages18:25
medooholstein : i'm trying now , thanks for resonable answer...18:25
localh0sthow can i restore my all repositories to default?18:25
localh0sti want to delete all additional ppa's etc18:25
holstein!ppapurge | localh0st18:25
ubottulocalh0st: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: Ā« sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> Ā» ā€“ For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html18:25
wilee-nileelocalh0st, http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/18:26
holsteinlocalh0st: you can just overwrite the sources, but that wont automatcially downgrade packages AFAIK18:26
wilee-nileearc__, So no backups?18:26
localh0styeah, but there is a problem..18:26
reisiogribouille: sufficeth to say it can be done18:28
localh0stholstein: wilee-nilee http://pastebin.com/77n7SQ6r18:28
reisiogribouille: what do you want LVM for? What do you want multiple installs for?18:28
david_Can two diferent logical partitions have the same mount point ?18:28
reisiodavid_: sure18:29
holstein!ppapurge | localh0st again, this is what i would try to use to purge the ppa that is an issue18:29
ubottulocalh0st again, this is what i would try to use to purge the ppa that is an issue: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: Ā« sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> Ā» ā€“ For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html18:29
david_so if I do that I'll see both partitons as one?18:29
reisiodavid_: no, by default one will mount over the other18:29
anoneetrism sorry I got disconnected, so any idea about how to downgrade from kernel 3.9 to 3.5 or anything between?18:29
arc__no there is no backups18:29
reisiodavid_: and you'll only see the last mounted18:29
arc__only xp18:29
wilee-nileelocalh0st, You running in root or just running the terminal on root?18:29
reisiodavid_: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UnionFS#Other_implementations18:30
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TaekMorning folks.18:30
reisiomornin'18:30
localh0stteriminal on root wilee-nilee18:30
localh0stwilee-nilee: sudo su18:31
anoneeTaek it's evening here, so peace 24/718:31
wilee-nileelocalh0st, cool not a good practice.18:31
wilee-nileeespecially sudo su18:31
david_reisio that is what I want, thanks18:31
wilee-nileeuse sudo and sudo -i but sudo is all you need18:31
david_I want the system to see both disks as one18:32
KurlonAfternoon all.  I'm playing with an old G4 that's hampered by a Rage 128 video card.  The last step to getting it fully working is building a modified version of the mesa-legacy package out of the xorg crach pushers team PPA.18:32
reisiodavid_: lvm could manage it from another direction as well, depends on what you're up to which is best no doubt18:32
anoneeTaek how to downgrade the linux kernel? I have 3.9 and want anything below maybe 3.5 is fine... dunno18:32
Kadgjmrtjmwtignore this, testin'18:32
KurlonIs there a walkthrough on how to pull down the src package, tweak, and kickoff a build I could check out?18:32
Taekanonee: for what purpose?18:33
holstein!ppc | Kurlon18:33
ubottuKurlon: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ18:33
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wilee-nileearc__, I don't know of any way to get what you missing, which you have not really described, in the circumstances you used, I would suggest though starting a backup schema in general.18:33
abuscusgnome-do alternatives?18:33
KurlonYup, fully aware it's no longer officially supported.  Hence why I'm dabbling under the hood with power tools. :D18:33
wilee-nileeabuscus, synapse is nice18:34
david_reisio the netbook has two sdd's one with 4gb and another with 8gb and I would like make only one 12gb disk, nothing too fancy18:34
semen_dickmanYooooo18:34
arc__all my package have gone after upgrade18:34
anoneeTaek installing vmware player it seems incompatible, also there are some crashes and I wanna check if they could disappear if i downgrade18:34
holstein!info kupfer | anonee18:34
ubottuanonee: kupfer (source: kupfer): fast and lightweight desktop summoner/launcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0+v208-2 (raring), package size 810 kB, installed size 2862 kB18:34
semen_dickmanWaaazuppp mugggaz18:34
holsteinabuscus: ^^18:34
abuscusthanks18:34
reisioabuscus: http://alternativeto.net/software/launchit/?platform=linux18:34
holsteinsorry for the accidental highlight anonee18:34
semen_dickmanUbottu u sin of s bitch18:34
reisiodavid_: lvm might be more appropriate, do some reading18:35
anoneenvm holstein18:35
david_reisio thanks !18:36
anoneecan anyone give me any info about how to downgrade my kernel from 3.9?18:36
Taekanonee: http://askubuntu.com/questions/257617/how-can-i-upgrade-the-ubuntu-12-04-2-kernel-to-3-5-0-2318:36
hermatizeanyone want to do a side job installing this on Ubuntu, pm me :: https://code.grnet.gr/projects/flowspy/repository/revisions/9f54980ac91d1540c085c04f3ede44ffa66aa03f/entry/README.txt18:37
holsteinabuscus: any package manager really.. assuming you have the kernel in your sources you want18:37
anoneeTaek this is upgrade18:38
MonkeyDustanonee  the current kernel is 3.8, how did you get 3.9? if it was a PPA, delete it18:38
k1l_anonee: how come you have a 3.9 kernel?18:38
Taekanonee: I don't think there is away to do what you want.18:39
anoneeMonkeyDust how can i delete it? yes it's a PPA, should I just remove the corresponding PPA line? and then? k1l?18:39
Taeknot without messing some thing up seriously18:40
k1l_!ppa-purge | anonee18:40
ubottuanonee: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: Ā« sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> Ā» ā€“ For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html18:40
devmedoi have a problem > i made an usb install ubuntu 13.04 with unetbootin , then when i go to step 3 and select ubuntu inside windows 7 , click continue , laptop reboot and windows starts , i've checked the iso ( it's md5 is correct )18:40
Taekanonee: why not try to use VirtualBox by Oracle?18:40
anoneereally Taek?18:40
wilee-nileedevmedo, Can you boot the live cd and take a screen shot of gparted and imagebin it?18:40
anoneeTaek it's slow, I'm currently using it btw, and trying wine but there r some serious language problems, I'm trying to understand more about locales...18:41
wilee-nileedevmedo, YOu still trying a wubi or a partitioned install?18:41
TaekWell what are you trying to do with said virtual software?18:42
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devmedowille-nilee : i made usb install ..... , the live ubuntu is working18:42
sveinseI have a laptop with two disks, and win7 lives on sda and ubuntu (12.10) on sdb. Since ubuntu, windows has been installed and overwriten the MBR. I'd like to grub to install MBR on /dev/sdb ONLY. How can I do that within the Ubuntu scheme?18:42
wilee-nileedevmedo, So wubi is different than a partitioned install, so we need to isolate your goal here.18:42
sveinseI find no reference to which disk(s) to install grub to in /etc/defaults/grub18:43
tlopezwhat is a good software to rip subtitles from DVDs18:43
devmedowilee-nilee : what do you mean?18:44
BluesKajsveinse, actually not a good idea , grub works fine on the mbr of sda , just do sudo os-prober then sudo update-grub18:44
devmedowilee-nilee : ubuntu 13.04 has no wubi18:44
devmedoso i made usb18:44
wilee-nileedevmedo, A install inside of windows is called a wubi it is just a file in windows and the disc does not install it. A partitioned install is in a partition.18:45
Sazpaimoncan anyone please confirm if the latest bcmwl drivers support the new 802.11ac cards?18:45
holsteinSazpaimon: not without a device in front of me to test with... i would just fire it up and see18:45
tlopezwhat is a good software to rip subtitles from DVDs18:45
devmedowilee-nilee : install inside windows appeard in step 3 in ubuntu install!!18:45
holstein!patience | tlopez18:46
ubottutlopez: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/18:46
sveinseBluesKaj, I had grub on sda before. But since sdb with Ubuntu is removable, taking the disk away confuses grub on sda and unables me to boot windows.18:46
MonkeyDusttlopez  first hit, ogmrip, it's in the repos http://www.my-guides.net/en/guides/linux-dvd-video/how-to-rip-dvd-subtitles-to-srt-in-linux18:46
Sazpaimonholstein, I just purchased a new broadcom 11ac adapter for my laptop and am just trying to guage my expectations18:46
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tlopezMonkeyDust: I need the sub file18:46
tlopeznot video file18:46
spillerei have a bunch of image files named with the danels18:46
SazpaimonI've read that the BCM4360 chip that comes in the newer macbook pros is supported by this driver, but the chip in mine is BCM435218:46
holsteinSazpaimon: sure.. plug it in and try it... and save the reciept.. i have my expecations where they have always been for broadcom.. not very high18:46
devmedo!patience | devmedo18:47
ubottudevmedo, please see my private message18:47
wilee-nileedevmedo, IT can be confusing if you are new user, the wubi setup is basically been put in no support anymore, so we generally try to get people to do a standard install, it is easier to deeal with and more stable.18:47
spillerei have a bunch of image files named with the date, as 2013-07-18_19-06-05.jpeg, how can I get all of them and make a video?18:47
hermatizeanyone want to do a side job installing this on Ubuntu, pm me :: https://code.grnet.gr/projects/flowspy/repository/revisions/9f54980ac91d1540c085c04f3ede44ffa66aa03f/entry/README.txt18:47
Sazpaimonthe only difference is the 4360 is 3x3 and the BCM4352 is 2x218:47
holstein!broadcom | Sazpaimon18:47
ubottuSazpaimon: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx18:47
MonkeyDusttlopez  read the blue title, what does it say18:47
sveinseI set up sdb to have higher bootpri than sda in BIOS. sdb comes with grub and can load linux and win7 from sda. However sda still needs to use the vanilla win bootloader18:47
devmedowilee-nilee beleive me it's not wubi!!!!!18:47
wilee-nileehermatize, That is considered spam to the channel, and very off topic.18:47
anoneeTaek they're arabic programs mostly. for example there's one program called Quran searcher it works great on XP and 7, and I wanna make it work here, I'm trying hard to make it work on wine because you know it's gonna be the same system, not a virtual environment, however, I compared vmware to vbox under windows XP and 7 hosts and I have to say vmware is a lot faster, I like vbox's options and flexibility, and the ease of use more than vmware but vmware is stil18:47
anoneel better because it's really faster I don't know what they're doing exactly but it's a great work18:47
Sazpaimonmy biggest concern is that there doesnt appear to be XP drivers for BCM4352, so if it doesn't work, I can't even use ndiswrapper :/18:48
mjaykdevmedo: I agree with you there is no wubi for 13.04 etc, but just thought could it be possible to upgrade -d a 12.04 wubi install ?18:48
mjaykdevmedo: just a thought, but you are correct18:48
MonkeyDusttlopez  nvm, it's no longer in the repos, just tried18:48
holsteinSazpaimon: just try it, friend.. you should be able to load that module on the live CD18:48
Sazpaimonholstein, I'll have to build it actually18:48
BluesKajsveinse, then remove the sda disk , then use you live media ubuntu disk or usb stick and run sudo grub-install /dev/sdb , then when you reinsert the the removable drive , do sudo update -grub in ubuntu18:48
wilee-nileedevmedo, Right, however you described a install in windows that would be a wubi. What I am trying to do here is disciver exactly what type of install you want that is the jist here, then we can move to installing.18:49
QnDthe bcm43xx has alot of info on that chipset via BackTrack.  they actually explain it well.  please excuse the distro reference18:49
wilee-nileediscover*18:49
QnDit is ubuntu based however18:49
Sazpaimonbcmwl 6.30.223.30 is staged to be in 13.10, which of course isnt out yet, so i'll need to backport it18:49
holsteinSazpaimon: there are live 13.10 iso's i would try as a test for that before doing too much work18:50
devmedomjayk : wubi in 12.04 not working correctly the in-folder iso trick is not working , i mean that i've downloaded also 12.04 LTS iso18:50
Sazpaimonlooks like it was published into saucy 19 days ago, so I'm guessing a nightly livecd will give me an answer then18:51
wilee-nileemjayk, There is a wubi for 13.04, the both of you are misinformed, and might ask proper questions to get actual help.18:51
mjaykwilee-nilee: there is not im sorry18:51
Sazpaimoni'll see in a couple weeks, getting it from china so I'll have to wait for it to arrive18:51
holsteinmjayk: i would do what i would do for *any* upgrade.. make proper backups, and be prepared for failure18:52
devmedowilee-nilee give me the download!18:52
mjaykholstein: i dont understand you sorry18:52
spillereis there a good way to create video out of images?18:52
blazemorespillere: Do you mean like a photo slideshow? Or a fast movie where each image is one frame?18:53
holsteinmjayk: i thought you were asking if you can upgrade a 12.04 if it is a wubi install? correct?18:53
wilee-nileedevmedo, http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/   mjayk look at the bottom link.18:53
mjaykholstein: yes so someone thought they installed 13.04 via wubi :), that was my thought18:53
devmedook , i'll try and answer you18:53
holsteinmjayk: no matter what answer i read, or get here, from anyone, i would backup my data, on *any* installation of any OS before upgrading18:53
spillereblazemore: a time lapse video. i was trying ffmpeg, but iy says its deprecated18:54
spillereblazemore: and cant find a command to do it18:54
holsteinmjayk: the upgrade should work, but you should always have a backup and plan for failure18:54
mjaykholstein: sorry i dont see how anything to do with data backing regardless of the installation type relates in any way to my question lol18:54
wilee-nileemjayk, Ubuntu officailly does not support the 13.04 wubi, however they asked for those that would, the user bcbc the only real helper in that app slipped that in for 13.04.18:55
holsteinmjayk: whats the question? can you upgrade you 12.04 intall? sure.. and you are encouraged to backup, regardless of wubi or not18:55
sveinseBluesKaj: I ran grub-install on /dev/sdb and booted into ubuntu. I didn't have to run update-grub to get it to work. Does this imply that update-grub never decides on installing MBR and bootloaders anywhere, it merely updates grub.cfg?18:55
holsteinmjayk: there will be no "sure, you are guaranteed success with your wubi install of 12.04.. nothind bad will happen"18:55
sveinseBluesKaj: So thanks18:56
mjaykholstein: the question was - can you upgrade wubi 12.04 to 13.04 , the answer would be yes, no , maybe18:56
kostkonspillere, tried this? https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/photofilmstrip/18:56
holsteinmjayk: the answer is the same as it it were *any* os.. have backups and do the upgrade18:56
devmedowilee-nilee it gave me " the request not supported "18:56
blazemorehaha kostkon I was just about to link that18:56
spillerekostkon: i only have access to the terminal :)18:56
kostkonblazemore, :P18:56
mjaykholstein: the answer has nothing to do with backups :)18:56
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holsteinmjayk: "can" is not eh problem.. you are looking for a "this wont break" answer18:56
blazemorespillere: ffmpeg will work18:56
holsteinthe*18:56
Guest22086is this a good place to get some ubuntu firefox flash player help?18:56
blazemore!ask | Guest2208618:57
ubottuGuest22086: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:57
holsteinmjayk: it "should" be fine, and no one can guarantee that18:57
Guest22086okay lol18:57
reisiospillere: way to cross post :p18:57
mjaykholstein: the question was related to a user who was on 13.04 and said he installed via wubi, as you can tell the upgrade HAS been performed so backup options are pretty useless18:57
wilee-nileedevmedo, I'm not sure how to run it, I tried wubi a couple of years ago as many needed help, buthave not kept up with it.18:57
kostkonspillere, apt-cache policy photofilmstrip? what does it say? also check apt-cache policy videoporama18:57
holsteinmjayk: so, whats the issue with the 13.04 install?18:57
kostkonspillere, oh you mean no gui right18:57
devmedowilee-nilee : so there's alternative to wubi?18:58
wilee-nileedevmedo, For best help on it though stsrt a thread at the ubuntu forums with wubi in the header and bcbc will drop by your best helper in it.18:58
devmedoto make along side windows 718:58
spillerekostkon: yeah, only ssh into terminal :)18:58
devmedowilee-nilee ;  anyforu ms don't help18:58
reisiodevmedo: yes there is18:58
devmedoreisio : plzz what?18:58
holsteinmjayk: the upgrade obviously worked, and you are trying to see if the upgrade caused the issue? it could have, and not had anything to do with the wubi.. there is not enough information to say18:58
blazemoredevmedo: The normal Ubuntu installer can resize your Windows partition and install Ubuntu into the newly created free space18:58
reisiodevmedo: why not just install Ubuntu the normal way?18:58
devmedowhen i come to step 3 and countinue and reboot and doesn't install!!18:59
reisiodevmedo: the normal way that happens?18:59
devmedoyes18:59
arc__i have put it on there http://askubuntu.com/questions/321990/packages-gone-in-upgrade18:59
devmedoand i've checked md518:59
reisiothat sounds like a fundamental problem with your hardware and the installer, then18:59
wolftuneso, I'm moving to a new computer, different particular make and model. Is there a reason to do somethign different than copying over my whole /home folder? Are there certain settings I might not want copied over?19:00
reisiobasically no matter what installation process you use, it all ends up using the same scripts19:00
wilee-nileedevmedo, Yes the alongside is standard, however you really want to have a unallocated space first by using the windows partitioner the disk mange to resize windows. But there are limitations on types and amounts of partitions on a single HD, so to get to the matter directly boot the live cd take a screen shot of gparted and imagebin it. This is for a standard install not a wubi.19:00
reisiodevmedo: what happens when you reboot?19:00
holsteinwolftune: grab it all, and test.. and remove anything that becomes problematic19:00
wolftuneholstein: so it'll be pretty safe?19:00
devmedoi have laptop hp pavilion g6-1151ex , core i5 , 4gb memory , 500gb hd + reisio : the windows starts19:00
reisiodevmedo: course it does, that OS was installed by a professional who had that specific hardware in mind19:01
wolftuneAny reason to hesitate like where I know things are different, such as the wireless drivers and vid drivers? Anything in /home touch those?19:01
reisiodevmedo: so you install Ubuntu, reboot, and only Windows boots?19:01
holsteinwolftune: it'll be as safe as it is.. the data is yours, so the safeness will be from you and the apps you run19:01
PandeeI am trying to install GASP for python, and some of the steps don't show up in my version of ubuntu. Can anyone hint to me where to look for the highlighted steps? http://pastebin.com/tWL7sBfx19:01
devmedono ubuntu doesn't begain install19:01
wolftuneholstein: I meant not really "safe" but like, avoiding bugginess19:01
reisiodevmedo: you'll have to be more specific19:01
devmedostep 4 is the begain of installtion19:02
wolftunelike maybe there's advantages to trying to be picky to be clean19:02
holsteinwolftune: if you have "buginess", remove the config, a new one will spawn, and test19:02
wolftunebut I'm pretty good, had no bugs before19:02
saiarcot895Pandee: for step a, use the Start Menu/Dash and type in Software & Sources19:02
wolftuneok, better to do it that way than to try to guess one-by-one as I move things over19:02
wolftunethanks19:02
devmedostep 3 is the choose of replace windows 7 , instal inside windows 7 , and the third idon't remember19:02
holsteinwolftune: i would just put them all over, and move out things that are problematic..19:03
reisiodevmedo: you'll have to be more specific :/19:03
devmedoinstall^19:03
reisiodevmedo: "it doesn't work" is hard to debug19:03
Pandeesaiarcot895: the only thing that comes up is the Ubuntu Software Center19:03
reisioyou've got to say at what point it doesn't work, and how19:03
saiarcot895Pandee: what version are you using?19:03
Pandeesaiarcot895: 12.0419:04
devmedoreisio : how more specific??! , i said that when i go step 3 and click countinue , the laptop reboots19:04
Pandeesaiarcot895: LTS19:04
devmedostep 3 i'll gave you an example for it19:04
reisiodevmedo: try the minimal install image, then19:04
saiarcot895Pandee: If you type in Software, you don't get Software Sources?19:04
devmedohttp://assets.ubuntu.com/sites/ubuntu/511/u/img/download/desktop-1204-install-4.jpg19:04
QnDsorry superlag connection dropped... sent you info in PM and my email if u need any help19:05
devmedono i can't make an original image19:05
devmedoit's an example19:05
Pandeesaiarcot895: no i dont19:05
devmedoand it gave me inside not alongside19:05
reisiodevmedo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD19:05
wilee-nileereisio, If I might interject devmedo has never done this and will need a helper all through this first install, there is a lot of missing underatnding.19:06
saiarcot895Pandee: actually, I'll stop you there because in his PPA (https://launchpad.net/~mattva01/+archive/ppa), he doesn't have any software available specifically for 12.04 (Precise)19:06
wilee-nileeunderstanding*19:06
saiarcot895Pandee: so even if you add that, you won't get anything19:06
reisiowilee-nilee: the channel isn't going anywhere19:06
devmedowilee-nilee : no comment19:06
saiarcot895Pandee: you have python-gasp in the repos19:06
saiarcot895!info python-gasp | Pandee19:07
ubottuPandee: python-gasp (source: python-gasp): procedural Python graphics library for beginning programmers. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.4-1build1 (raring), package size 61 kB, installed size 153 kB19:07
saiarcot895Pandee: you can just do "sudo apt-get install python-gasp"19:07
wilee-nileereisio, Right however we have not even seen if this is a oem with 4 primaries to start with, just saying install with this is irresponsible in this context, we know of no backups as of yet.19:07
Pandeesaiarcot895: okay, i'll give that a try19:07
wolftuneholstein: what's the best command here? I shouldn't copy over the old stuff via sudo should I? And should I do anything to first remove the existing stuff in /home from the system install?19:08
starkillerhello XD19:08
devmedoreisio : i'm disappointed from ubuntu linux , i thought that is more easy , i made install from 6 months but by vm....19:08
Pandeesaiarcot895: It seems that it's installed already - "python-gasp is already the newest version."19:09
wilee-nileereisio, I respect your help of course, but the user is flailing in not understanding good help to begin with a bad situation for them to make sure they still have a working OS.19:09
Pandeesaiarcot895: But when I try to import it to VIM it says it's not installed19:09
reisioit's not irresponsible19:09
holsteinwolftune: you can use something like rsync.. there is a nice gui.. grsync19:09
reisioif you have the time to type up an explicit step-by-step tome of what he should do, by all means do so19:09
holstein!info grsync | wolftune19:09
ubottuwolftune: grsync (source: grsync): GTK+ frontend for rsync. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.3-1ubuntu1 (raring), package size 147 kB, installed size 635 kB19:09
reisioI don't have that kind of time, I am however sitting here19:09
reisioand answering questions19:09
wolftuneholstein: yeah, I'm using the backintime GUI for that, but I don't have it set on the new machine, have never used it to bring things back, but ok, I'll do that19:09
Pandeesaiarcot895: I'll have to look into vim more. Thanks for your help saiarcot89519:10
holsteinwolftune: i would just move them, and deal with permissions afterwards, if needed19:10
holstein!chown | wolftune19:10
ubottuwolftune: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions19:10
starkillerI have  win 7/xubuntu dual boot,, would it hurt to install xubuntu in another partition again for repair purposes ?19:10
wilee-nileereisio, I do not do that generally, however you decided to chime in that is great I was just trying to give you some context not passively be aggressive as you are now19:10
mjaykstarkiller: no shouldn't do19:10
devmedostarkiller : how do you made dual boot!!19:10
holsteinwolftune: backintime probably does a great job and uses rsync as well19:10
devmedostarkiller : i'm from yesterday trying to do19:11
yeats!dualboot | devmedo19:11
ubottudevmedo: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot19:11
reisiothis is just text, waste of time trying to psychoanalyze it19:11
QnDbye all19:11
devmedoyeats : nothing helps19:11
ngomesquestions related to openntp , where to ask ?19:11
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reisiongomes: maybe #openbsd19:12
devmedoi have a " the request is not supported " in wubi & in live one when i go to this step http://assets.ubuntu.com/sites/ubuntu/511/u/img/download/desktop-1204-install-4.jpg and click countine the laptop reboots , and windows starts19:13
ngomesreisio, why in openBSD ? Oo19:13
k1l_devmedo: dont use wubi19:13
devmedok1l_ : the live one didn't work19:13
ngomesgotta go , later19:14
k1l_just dont use wubi. it will break either ubuntu or windows. or both. and its very hard to support19:14
reisiongomes: for openntpd?19:14
ngomesreisio, yes19:14
wilee-nileedevmedo, You most likely have 4 primary partitions already, if you would take a screen shot of goparted on the live cd we can get to what is needed. 4 primary partitions is the limit19:14
devmedok1l_ L here?19:14
reisiongomes: it's basically an OpenBSD project19:15
devmedoscreen shot how?19:15
ngomesreisio, ok , maybe ill ask there gotta go now ,thanks19:15
reisioadios19:15
k1l_devmedo: what is the disk /partition cheme you got there?19:15
wilee-nilee!screenshot | dev19:15
ubottudev: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.19:15
wilee-nileeImagebin | devmedo put the iamge here.19:15
wilee-nilee!Imagebin | devmedo put the iamge here.19:16
ubottudevmedo put the iamge here.: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.19:16
devmedok1l_ i have 5 disks and with c:/ it is 6 , i made a partition for ubuntu19:16
devmedo5 partition19:16
k1l_devmedo: is it windows dynamic disk?19:16
wilee-nileedevmedo, Hmm sounds like a uefi setup or now dynamic19:16
devmedoyah all dynamic19:16
k1l_devmedo: there we have the problem19:17
devmedomm what i do?19:17
k1l_devmedo: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/179215/why-cant-i-install-ubuntu-or-wubi-on-a-dynamic-disk-the-request-isnt-suppor19:17
k1l_first answer lists the solutions19:17
devmedohow to Convert the dynamic disk to basic19:18
Pandeesaiarcot895: in case you were curious i found software sources. It had to be downloaded first.19:18
saiarcot895Pandee: you had to download Software Sources? that's strange19:19
beni-hi guys, I'm a software developer, our company sells B2B software. We want to have an online platform, where our customers can log in and get access to the software they purchased, updates (if they are paying the subscription), access to documentation etc. Are there any such applications in the Ubuntu repository?19:19
devmedok1l_ ??19:19
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delinquentmeanyone in here running an ubuntu system as their primary OS ... on a Mac Book Pro along side OSX and windoez?19:20
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saiarcot895beni-: there's a paid apps section in the Ubuntu Software Center where people can buy apps, and redownload them later if necessary19:20
delinquentmeSpecifically I'm curious as I REALLY love the mac hardware ... but im totally uninterested in OSX for development19:20
saiarcot895beni-: it's not a subscription model, though19:20
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devmedo!help19:20
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:20
devmedo!alert19:21
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devmedo!ask19:21
jdale!help19:21
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:21
jdale!ask19:21
jdalehm19:21
jdale!aptience19:21
jdaleoh well19:21
FloodBot1jdale: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:21
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wilee-nileejdale, whats up poindexter19:21
jdalenothing much19:22
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saiarcot895beni-: as to specific applications that do this, I don't know of any19:22
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devmedohow to Dual Boot Ubuntu 13.04 and Windows 7 *NOT WUBI*19:23
holstein!dualboot | devmedo19:24
ubottudevmedo: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot19:24
beni-saiarcot895: the Software Center is only for Ubuntu-applications, right? So I could not put up binaries for other systems? And can I limit who can access my binaries? We have sales people who sell the application, and once the customer purchases they should get a login to such a software system.19:24
devmedoholstein not working!!19:24
devmedoi have a " the request is not supported " in wubi & in live one when i go to this step http://assets.ubuntu.com/sites/ubuntu/511/u/img/download/desktop-1204-install-4.jpg and click countine the laptop reboots , and windows starts19:24
holsteindevmedo: you cant get to the links?19:24
devmedonot working , imean when i made what was said not working19:25
k1l_devmedo: why start over again?19:25
k1l_i told you what the problem is19:25
yeatsdevmedo: there are many many web tutorials on this - a quick web search of "dual boot ubuntu and windows" will reveal them19:25
holsteindevmedo: whats not working? shrinking the partition?19:25
saiarcot895beni-: no, you cannot put up binaries for other systems there; the apps will be listed publically on the Ubuntu Software Center, so anyone who pays the price and buys it will have access19:25
k1l_the windows dynamic discs are not compatible with anything other than windows19:25
holsteink1l_: OH, i see19:25
devmedoAll : What i do to make it basic!!19:25
k1l_so revert that, get a spare disk to install ubuntu and grub onto or keep ubuntu in a vm19:26
holsteindevmedo: you would nee a basic hardware setup, and you dont have that19:26
holsteinneed*19:26
devmedowhat i do?19:26
kostkonbeni-, the info is here:  http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/19:26
wachpwnskican I run a program as a user as an upstart service?19:26
devmedoWhat i DO?19:27
k1l_devmedo: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/26829-convert-dynamic-disk-basic-disk.html19:27
isiah_sI am looing to run a program that generates an output file. I am concerned that the output file will be too large. I wish to limit how large the file can be to say 95% of available memory. So, if before the program started I had 100Gb unused, I would like to program to be killed once the output file reaches 95Gb. I am looking at ulimit for this, does anyone have a better suggestion?19:27
devmedok1l_ sure??19:27
beni-saiarcot895, kostkon: thanks, seems like the Ubuntu Software Center is not really what I'm looking for :-(19:27
k1l_devmedo: but talk with the windows support for that windows related problem. that is not a ubuntu support issue19:27
kostkonwachpwnski, not yet, but soon http://ifdeflinux.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/upstart-user-sessions-in-ubuntu-raring.html19:27
devmedoyea , it's in Ubuntu Install!!19:27
kostkonbeni-, :/19:27
k1l_devmedo: no!19:27
holsteindevmedo: sure, but its the windows setup that is preventing the installation19:27
devmedoI want ubuntu to work along side windows 719:28
k1l_its the windows which ruins the PC for other OS. so its a windows problem.19:28
wilee-nileedevmedo, backup windows before you do anything.19:28
holsteindevmedo: can you access the information about making your hard drive appropriately configured for the dual boot?19:28
holsteindevmedo: i understand you want to dual boot, but you hardware configuration is not allowing that19:28
devmedohow to change it without losing any fies19:29
devmedofiles19:29
holsteindevmedo: most setups, you just click that option in the insatller, and it works19:29
k1l_devmedo: read the links!19:29
holsteindevmedo: no one can guarantee that.. that is why "back up your files" is suggested, in case you lose data19:29
k1l_devmedo: and make sure you have a backup19:29
devmedok1l_ Idon't have..19:29
holsteindevmedo: you dont have the link?19:29
holsteindevmedo: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/26829-convert-dynamic-disk-basic-disk.html here it is again19:30
devmedoi don't have backup19:30
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k1l_devmedo: we are done here. you got that link from me. noo need for further questions19:30
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yeatsdevmedo: sounds like you're pretty well out of your depth here - I would suggest doing some research on PC hardware basics, Windows, and Ubuntu before proceeding with this - or find a friend who can help19:30
holsteindevmedo: you'll want a backup, since *all* hard drives will evenutally fail. its good practice to have a backup or a clone, and know how to restore19:30
elijahHey guys, how would I debug notify-send stop working from time to time? I use it for irssi and notifications just stop showing up after a while, the ding is still happening though, manually sending something to notify-send <argument> on the cli is the closest I can test/debug, no worky.19:31
saiarcot895devmedo: or at least have a copy of your important files someplace else19:31
devmedowtf 5 who would answer hhhhhhh19:31
holsteindevmedo: you have a special hardware case, friend.. that prevents an easy solution from the ubuntu installer to work without preperation19:33
devmedoif i make wubi in 12.04 it'll work?19:33
k1l_devmedo: no19:33
k1l_no with that harddisk setup19:34
devmedo:/19:34
holsteindevmedo: your hard drive has restrictions19:34
k1l_its that windows dynamic harddisc setup which doesnt allow any other OS than windows19:34
devmedok1l_ fu** win19:34
k1l_devmedo: so scroll back up and read the link i gave you how to convert that setup to a basic setup. or stick to win-only19:35
holstein!language | devmedo19:35
ubottudevmedo: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.19:35
devmedoi made ** :)19:35
holsteindevmedo: if you dont want windows, wipe the drive, and install linux only19:35
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devmedois there a way to make wireless work in vm19:35
wilee-nileedevmedo, the helpers here work within a do no harm context, consequently we have to stop at some point so you don't harm yourself.19:36
kwokhi19:36
yeatsdevmedo: the vm will use the host's network connection19:36
holsteindevmedo: the networking passes through in vm19:36
kwokare andriod phone easy to hack19:36
holstein!ot | kwok19:36
ubottukwok: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:36
kostkonkwok, wrong channel19:36
k1l_devmedo: no need for wirdeless in a wm. it uses the network from that base system19:36
devmedovm makes Wireless TO Lan , no i need wireless19:37
kwokbut andriod uses the same kernel19:37
kwokright19:37
wilee-nileekwok, There are 3 android channels19:37
kwoklinux19:37
k1l_devmedo: please get the facts right19:37
holsteindevmedo: as several people stated, the networking passes through in VM. from the host to the guiest19:37
holsteinguest*19:37
k1l_!alis > kwok19:37
ubottukwok, please see my private message19:37
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devmedoholstein : ??19:38
k1l_devmedo: you dont need wireless in a vm19:38
devmedowilee-nilee: yah no harmfull :"devmedo: please get the facts right "19:38
holsteindevmedo: you are asking if you can have wireless in virtualization, and the answer, as stated is, you pass the networking of the host OS to the guest19:38
devmedoholstein : how ?19:39
holsteindevmedo: i use virtualbox, and i use the GUI menu for "networking" to pass the networking connection of the host to the guest19:39
wilee-nileedevmedo, That does not harm, I will just put you back in ignore where you belong.19:39
devmedowilee-nilee : yah please , i will see a good supporter like "holstein" help me19:40
holsteindevmedo: please stay on topic, or go to #ubuntu-offtopic.. thanks19:41
devmedoholstein : mm , i'll download it it and see19:41
isiah_sdemedo: if you want to attach a VM to network interface it will depend on what virtualization manager you use. I use libivrt a great deal and what the guides recommend is you create what is called a virtual bridge. To the outside world the VM will have its own ip and mac address making it effectively as real as any stand-alone physical computer.19:41
m_tadeuI'm having trought setting distcc to work...it's not finding other hosts. does anyone know why?19:41
devmedoholstein: does i said  no harmfull ? no , wilee-nilee....19:41
holsteindevmedo: you are welcome to review the /topic ..thanks for your patience and consideration of the guideline and other volunteers19:42
isiah_sdevmedo: for example I am on a VM right now running on a computer that is connected over wireless. This chat client is running that way.19:43
daurnimatorHow can one publish a  package compiled with different flags?19:43
devmedoisiah_s : i know but ubuntu gets it with a virtual lan , no i need a real wifi19:43
holsteindevmedo: you need a network connection, and you can get that.. you can get a "real" IP with the bridged connection19:44
devmedoshortly i want to try my wifi to see it can be hacked or not19:45
holsteindevmedo: try a security channel for that, please19:45
devmedonono , the topic here is not the hacking19:45
devmedothe topic about making guest os ( ubuntu ) recives wifi19:46
holsteindaurnimator: what do you mean by "publish" ?19:46
isiah_sI dont suppose anyone knows how to set the physical memory ouse by a process that is run by root? I am a little stuck on this one19:46
holsteindevmedo: recieves networking*19:46
holsteindevmedo: you can always run the distro from a live CD or USB stick19:46
devmedonot understanding , i mean when i connect to ubuntu the shown in ubuntu is lan not wifi19:47
daurnimatorholstein: as in have in a ppa/eventually get into main repos19:47
devmedoholstein : as we said i have problem with hardware confing19:47
holsteindaurnimator: create a PPA, but i would go upstream to debian to get it in the repos19:47
devmedoso ican't make ubuntu in my computer along side19:47
holsteindevmedo: you dont need to. you can install to a USB stick, or run the distro live from USB19:48
daurnimatorholstein: what I'm really asking is: theres a program currently in the repos; but I (+ my users) need it with a different set of compile time flags; would it be against the rules to have 2 variants of the one program in the official repos?19:48
devmedoholstein : i'm taking myself to don't make harmfull words hhhhhh , in live one when i go to this step http://assets.ubuntu.com/sites/ubuntu/511/u/img/download/desktop-1204-install-4.jpg and click countine the laptop reboots , and windows starts19:49
k1l_devmedo: we had that part, didnt we?#19:49
holsteindaurnimator: not sure.. i would ask in a dev channel.. i think as long as the names are different for the PPA, it should work and you can test19:49
OerHeksdevmedo, sounds like a flaky download, did you check the iso?19:49
devmedoyah i checked md519:49
holsteindevmedo: *dont* *install* the os.. just use it live19:50
devmedoholstein : can i use it live with installing some programes?19:50
k1l_OerHeks: its his windows dynamic disks that are not comaptible19:50
holsteindevmedo: or, use a different destination to install, such as a USB drive or USB stick19:50
holsteindevmedo: yes19:50
devmedoi tried DVD and USB19:50
holsteindevmedo: you can install into the live session, or create persistence, or install to USB or a USB hard drive19:50
k1l_devmedo: not installing!19:50
OerHeksah, maybe windows is in Fastboot. or dynamic disk, that could be it, k1l_19:50
k1l_devmedo: you cant use your harddisks as long as they are dynamic windows things19:51
holsteinbut, as was suggested, you could install to a USB stick or another drive19:51
k1l_devmedo: that was explained 10 times now to you. stop asking that again19:51
anoneehello everyone19:51
devmedok1l_ firstly i didn't ask , i asked how to make wifi in guest os in vm19:52
devmedosee the history19:52
k1l_devmedo: no, you did ask again.19:52
devmedo( when i was told )19:52
holsteindevmedo: you dont do that.. you dont "make wifi in guest" in vm.. you just share the networking of the host OS19:52
holsteindevmedo: you dont have to install the OS in VM or on the machine.. you can just run it live.. *not* installing *anything*19:53
devmedohow to make wifi work " not virtual lan "19:53
wachpwnskikostkon: what is a good way I can start a process as a specified user on boot? cron?19:53
Phoenix1969aloha....   got a Q:   Ububtu 13.01 just installed.. When I choose to boot ubuntu on the bios, I get this: http://i.imgur.com/b7yVmlP.jpg19:53
devmedoholstein : it's so slow in live19:53
anoneedevmedo just right-click the USB devices icon in vbox guest window and the wifi will go to the guest19:53
holsteindevmedo: you dont, friend.. that *is* your network. you bridge the connect and get a real IP19:53
OerHeksdevmedo, if your host is using Wifi, your "virtual lan" uses that wifi too.19:53
guntbertdevmedo: virtualization software doesn't present "real hardware" to the guest, I know of non that would present a wireless interface19:53
k1l_devmedo: either you make the suggested solutions or you keep it live without installing19:53
holsteindevmedo: if you want to do penetration testing, you'll want a native solution.. such as the live CD.. or a specific live penetration testing OS19:53
holsteindevmedo: you can do a lot of testing on your network from inside VM with a real network IP.. from a live CD.. which is a known compromise in speed19:54
devmedoi'll try live cd , thank you19:55
holsteindevmedo: try a live CD for a penetration OS if thats what you want... kali linux or whatever.. that is not supported here19:55
devmedoholstein : what do you mean?19:56
anoneekl1 can you please explain this to me? remember the icon I tried everything to change, it finally changed by itself after 3 or 4 reboots, how can you explain that? is there an icon cash for ubuntu just like in windows? and why does all other icons refresh immediately like for example when I installed faenza icon pack or manually change an icon... any ideas?19:56
holsteindevmedo: just what i said, friend19:56
devmedoi'll install aircrack-ng19:56
holsteindevmedo: its an if statement, so if the if statement applies to you, check it out19:56
holsteindevmedo: this is not a penetration testing support channel or OS..19:57
wachpwnskiwhat is a good pastebin cli tool?19:57
devmedoholstein : can i install software in live cd ?19:57
wachpwnskii remember wgetpaste or something19:57
tga2greetings19:57
Piciwachpwnski: pastebinit19:57
guntbert!pastebinit | wachpwnski19:57
ubottuwachpwnski: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the Ā« pastebinit Ā» package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com19:57
isiah_ssorry why exactly are you using a wifi cracking password tool?19:57
wachpwnskiisiah_s: probably research?19:57
tga2I am having trouble getting an Atheros AR9462 wifi working in 13.0419:58
k1l_isiah_s: to test "his" wifi. but its not supported in here anyways19:58
tga2does anyone have any suggestions of things to try?19:58
holsteindevmedo: as i said, yes.. you can install software into the live enviroment19:58
tga2it starts connecting to the network and then just disconnects19:58
isiah_stga2: was it working at any given point?19:58
tga2isiah_s, first time booting ubuntu on this laptop, a Samsung 5 series19:59
holsteindevmedo: try not to ask the same questions over.. if you need to, refer back to the channel history19:59
tga2I did try some of the module options I found on forums, but no magical solution19:59
devmedoholstein : ok...19:59
isiah_stga2: ok, if you run it over ethernet does it function?19:59
guntbertdevmedo: if you want to install software and keep it a USB (with persistence) is the solution19:59
tga2isiah_s, IĀ“m on ethernet now, how does that help with wifi20:00
tga2isiah_s, ethernet is a rtl, works fine20:00
devmedowhat?20:00
tga2wifi is an Atheros AR9462, not so happy20:00
VitaoDoidaopeople, anybody know any alternative for vyzex and battery 3 ? i need to make use of my akai mpd26 on my linux. may anobody help me, please?20:00
devmedoi'll try live cd20:00
isiah_stga2: I want to make sure your conenction itself is fine. I am trying to isolate the problem down20:00
tga2oh, ok20:00
anoneelol20:01
holsteindevmedo: are you having trouble understanding the term "persistence" ? it allows changes made to your live environment "persist"20:01
tga2connection is fine, the card works, sees the networks, but when I try to connect to wpa2 it does things for a while then stops20:01
isiah_stga2: can you ping your local host? in the command like type ping 127.0.0.120:01
tga2yeah, like I said, I`m on ethernet now20:01
holsteindevmedo: if you install into the live CD or usb, and reboot, those chages are gone.. persistence would make thos changes persist20:01
netlarWhen you do the ! with a word ubottu comes up?20:01
danielelogout20:01
k1l_!bot > netlar20:01
ubottunetlar, please see my private message20:01
devmedoholstein: i don't want it persistence20:01
isiah_stga2: create a second ifcfg for wifi20:01
guntbertdevmedo: do as you please - but when using a live CD (as opposed to a live USB with persistence) you will have to install/configure the software every time you boot20:02
devmedook20:02
holsteindevmedo: then, as it is also an if statement, if you dont want it, dont use it20:02
anoneek1l_ sorry if i bothered you20:02
devmedook thank you all , i'll try20:02
devmedobye20:02
tga2isiah_s, itĀ“s all default network manager now20:02
isiah_stga2: I always end up removing network manager. Let me see if I can find a step-by-step guide on setting up a second ifcfg for wifi20:03
suigeneris!grub20:04
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub220:04
k1l_Phoenix1969: there is something wrong with your wubi install20:04
guntbert!askthebot > suigeneris20:04
ubottusuigeneris, please see my private message20:04
k1l_Phoenix1969: but wubi is hard to support. i dont know if anyone knows an answer to this but in general we recommend to make a native intsall20:05
tga2hmm, how do I get some logs out of networkmanager?20:05
tga2it just tries the network for a while then gives up, it would be useful to know what it's doing20:05
Phoenix1969agreed...trying a desktop extraction install...20:05
anoneek1l_ but i'm curious, why did it take as much reboots.. it doesn't matter anyway if the answer is difficult for me, thank you all anyway.20:06
suigenerisguntbert: I thought we were allowed to do that20:06
ikoniaPhoenix1969: look if that file is actually there, I suspect it's not20:06
ikonialooking at the error code20:06
g3org3shey all, how do i remove the camera drivers/disable it for good on ubuntu? it autoinstalled when i was setting up ubuntu20:07
reisiog3org3s: could blacklist the module/s20:07
reisiog3org3s: lsmod, probably has 'uvc' in its name20:07
Phoenix1969it was not there, correct....doing another install20:07
MichaelPwhen Mir is shiped with the next release. How is it going to be with ati proprietary drivers ?20:07
blazemoreHi g3org3s - Can you please paste the result of running the command "lsmod" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and then give me the URL? Thanks20:07
reisioMichaelP: let me find my crystal ball20:08
guntbertsuigeneris: we usually only invoke ubottu to specific onformation to a person, if we want to investigate and try things we do it in a private message with her20:08
blazemoreMichaelP: Are AMD writing drivers for mir?20:08
g3org3sreisio it has uvcvideo on 3 lines. how can i blacklist it ?20:08
k1l_MichaelP: lets fokus on existing issues in here. #ubuntu-mir or #ubuntu+1 for that topic would be better :)20:09
reisiog3org3s: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist20:09
reisiog3org3s: blacklist modulenamehere20:09
MichaelPblazemore: don't know thats why i was wondering if proprietary drivers was going to work with it.20:09
OerHeksMichaelP, next release is shipped with xMir, the transit version to Mir20:09
joshuikonia hi again20:10
mjaykOerHeks: is that for sure ?20:10
zoraelWhat's the CLI tool with which you add/remove loopback dev nodes?20:10
ikoniajoshu: hello20:10
suigeneriswhy is apt-get ignoring the ppa?20:10
OerHeksmjayk, see http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/06/27/mir-plans-in-13-10/20:10
reisiozorael: mount?20:10
k1l_suigeneris: did you set it up proberly?20:11
guntbertsuigeneris: did you   sudo apt-get update   afterwards?20:11
zoraelreisio: No, I mean adding dev nodes if there aren't enough /dev/loop*, or assigning a block file to such a node20:11
tga2so it looks like my card authenticates with the router, then goes 'authenticating by local choice' right away20:11
* tga2 digs some more20:11
reisiozorael: sounds like udev magick20:12
suigenerisguntbert: update is ignoring it20:12
suigenerishttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair20:12
suigenerisI'm doing this20:12
g3org3sreisio i have: 1)videobuf2-core  used by uvcvideo,videobuf2_core, 2)videobuf2_vmalloc used by uvcvideo, 3) videodev used by uvcvideo,videobuf2_core ... which one to blacklist ?20:12
reisiog3org3s: uvcvideo alone would probably manage it20:12
zoraelreisio: Found it; losetup20:12
reisiozorael: ah, gj20:13
g3org3sreisio but i have no module called uvcvideo :s20:13
guntbertsuigeneris: !pastebin the output of   sudo apt-get update   please20:13
nightdreverHi, I have windows 7 and ubuntu duel boot, http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=14555    id like to reinstall windows without affecting ubuntu (and if possible move ubuntu to start of drive) is it possible if so how?20:13
urmysonyHi Guys20:14
urmysonym running ubuntu 13.1020:14
ikoniaurmysony: #ubuntu+1 channel please20:14
reisiohi20:14
joshuikonia the lubuntu option you mentioned earlier today. wasn't clear on how and if possible I would be able to 1) update the OS remotely as if it was a "firmware image" and 2) how I would be able to update/ push or pull configuration changes20:14
reisiog3org3s: try it20:14
reisionightdrever: yes20:14
urmysony@inkonia Thanks20:14
ikonianightdrever: you can't move ubuntu to the start - windows wants to be the first partition for it's 200mb private partition, and it will need the boot sector re-installing20:14
reisionightdrever: playing with partitions is not 100% safe, though, so you should make a backup first20:15
k1l_suigeneris: can you show the whole output from the terminal in a pastebin?20:15
suigenerisguntbert: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5891935/20:15
suigenerisk1l_ too20:15
nightdreverok how do i delete windows and reinstall then without effecting ubuntu?20:15
g3org3sreisio blacklist command not found20:15
k1l_suigeneris: with the commands you added the ppa20:15
ikoniajoshu: ok, so as an "image" it's not going to happen unless you netboot it, and configuration managing is up to you, sync configuration files, use a configuration tool like puppet etc, many options20:15
reisiog3org3s: it's a line you put into the file I mentioned20:15
reisiog3org3s: then reboot20:15
celrocikonia: I'm not sure, but I don't think Windows needs the first partition, actually.  On my machine, it's the second or third partition20:16
suigenerissudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update20:16
k1l_suigeneris: "Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release"20:16
g3org3sreisio ah sry will do that thanks ^^20:16
k1l_there it is20:16
ikoniacelroc: it makes a temporary small 200mb partition, that it likes to be the first partition on the primary disk20:16
suigenerisk1l_: but boot-repair is being ignored20:16
guntbertk1l_: he was talking about the next one, which is indeed "Ign"20:17
k1l_suigeneris: it doesnt name the PPA by its own20:17
suigenerisIgn http://ppa.launchpad.net/yannubuntu/boot-repair/ubuntu/ lucid/main Translation-en_US20:17
suigenerisk1l_:20:17
celrocikonia: Huh.  I've had Windows installed on my second partition for quite a while now without any problems that I remember20:17
ikoniacelroc: the actual install can be anywhere20:17
joshuikonia ok so updating the OS would either have to be via say a USB stick which replaces the current OS install, or via the OS's own updating mechanism20:18
OerHekssuigeneris, no bootrepair in that PPA >>> https://launchpad.net/~yannubuntu/+archive/boot-repair  and lucid desktop is EOL20:18
k1l_suigeneris: what does "sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair" give you?20:18
ikoniajoshu: basically using the OS update tool, from a repository of some sort, yes20:18
k1l_OerHeks: ah well, didnt think of that easy one20:18
celrocikonia: Right, but I think I've had a Linux partition already set up as my first partition when I installed Windows, and it didn't seem to have a problem20:19
suigenerisk1l_: Couldn't find package boot-repair20:19
ikoniacelroc: there are ways around it, but it does not like the 200mb partition not being the first partition20:19
suigenerisOerHeks: I'm tryying to re-install grub20:19
k1l_suigeneris: see OerHeks lucid is out of support for the desktop and the PPA doesnt have any package for lucis20:20
celrocikonia: Hmm, Ok.  I'm sorry, I'll stop bothering you about it20:20
ikoniacelroc: no need for sorry20:20
suigenerisoh that's why20:20
ikoniacelroc: valid comments20:20
celrocikonia: ;-)  Thanks20:20
k1l_suigeneris: if that is a dektop you really should considering going to a supported release20:21
tga2[ 1782.584391] wlan0: deauthenticating from <router> by local choice (reason=3)20:21
celrocikonia: If it's any help, I think I had to (re?)install Windows 7 a while back.  All I really did was format the previous NTFS (WinXP) partition and tell it to install.  It worked without a hitch as far as I can tell20:21
tga2it looks like my card connects to the router and actually works for a bit, then just deauthenticates20:22
joshuikonia the thin client project as I explained earlier..you seem very knowledgable about Ubuntu. Is it something you're capable of doing?20:22
ikoniacelroc: I don't know how that will make / have an impact20:22
tga2any hints on how to fix this?20:22
ikoniajoshu: errr with effort yes, but I'd look at other options too such as netbooting the OS with local persistance for example, which really would be a thin client, lots of options with pros/cons20:23
celrocikonia: I don't remember any real issue with the partitions (I think I already had my Linux partitions set up, unless I'm mistaken).  It didn't seem to throw any errors/problems that I can remember20:24
joshuikonia is this something we could discuss more in private with compensation of course?20:24
ikoniajoshu: I think you've not %100 thought out your approach and missed a few things which would need to be addressed then it will narrow down your options a bit more, and move forward from there20:24
suigenerisk1l_: I'm on 13.04 and trying to re-install grub because I lost it20:24
ikoniajoshu: I'll discuss it a bit more in private sure, but I'm not looking for money20:24
ikoniacelroc: where did it put the 200mb partition20:25
k1l_suigeneris: your system says its lucid20:25
k1l_or is it an old stick/cd you are using?20:25
celrocikonia: Um.... I really don't remember if it even prompted me about it.  Although, now I'm wondering if my memory is wrong and if I did have to give my first partition the temporary axe....20:26
suigenerisk1l_: I'm on livecd20:26
ikoniacelroc: it has to have one......20:26
joshuikonia what is more convenient for you, PM, Skype or something else?20:26
celrocikonia: I must be mistaken, then.  Or my memory is wrong20:26
thufirI installed xubuntu-desktop   --- how do I get to a GUI desktop now?  I have a text console only.20:27
ikoniajoshu: do you want to talk "now" ?20:27
reisiothufir: reboot?20:27
ikoniacelroc: who knows20:27
joshuif possible20:27
thufirreisio: I did20:27
reisiothufir: service lightdm start ?20:27
guntbertsuigeneris: in that case the best approach would be to download a Boot repair ISO and boot from that20:27
k1l_suigeneris: no bootrepais for lucid. but you can use the "oldfashioned" methods: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows20:27
thufirreisio: ahhh, forgot about lightdm.20:27
ikoniajoshu: pm me and we can have a short chat, then work out if any more is needed20:27
cipherboyHey, so I think this should be obvious to me, but it isn't... Say I set a custom PATH in a bashrc script. I can then run commands from that new path, say they are located in ~/bin. which <command only in ~/bin> returns nothing. How do I change that?20:29
thufirxubuntu-desktop is xfce?20:29
reisiothufir: yes20:29
thufirthnaks20:29
reisiocipherboy: change what?20:30
thufirI have an older monitor and need to do something weird, I think, with creating a file /etc/X/...(?) to set the resolution.20:30
thufirbefore I can use xfce or other GUI desktop interface20:30
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reisiothufir: try without first20:31
cipherboyreisio: change it such that the which command searches my full custom path, not just the system global ones.20:32
tga2tried power management too, no dice20:32
reisiocipherboy: are you asking how to set a custom PATH?20:33
thufirreisio: ok, thanks.  my old computer broke somehow, so it's a new computer with the same monitor.20:33
reisioseemed like you already had that bit figured...20:33
suigenerisis 10.10 EOL yet?20:33
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wilee-nileesuigeneris, Yes20:34
cipherboyreisio: No, no, I have the custom path, lol, and programs run. The problem is the which command doesn't actually search my custom path.20:34
BluesKaj!10.1020:34
ubottuUbuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) was the thirteenth release of Ubuntu. !End-Of-Life on April 10th, 2012, see http://ubottu.com/y/maverick for details.20:34
reisiocipherboy: which command?20:34
cipherboyreisio: Here:20:34
guntbertreisio: `which` :-)20:35
reisioguntbert: `type` :p20:35
wilee-nilee!eol | suigeneris Read if you plan to upgrade20:35
ubottusuigeneris Read if you plan to upgrade: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades20:35
cipherboyrevagomes: http://pastebin.com/zTepq2rv20:35
cipherboyreisio, not revagomes, sorry.20:36
k1l_suigeneris: 12.04 is the last one you can get20:36
celroccipherboy: I haven't really used the Which command much, but it looks like you might want to set the PATH variable in your shell as well20:36
eedfwchrisHey guysā€¦ why would this UFW rule not allow incoming ssh connections on 22 (eth1 is public)? http://pastie.org/private/mm7cfnu0dwoxtge2gzynzg20:37
cipherboycelroc: meaning? env lists the modified PATH.20:37
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celroccipherboy: Oh.  Well, I see you've already done that.20:38
cipherboyHowever, the `which` command, isn't detecting it, causing scripts to break occasionally.20:38
trismcipherboy: do you actually have ~/local/bin in the path, or the full path?20:38
cipherboyNo, full /home/cipherboy/local/bin20:39
trismcipherboy: I notice if it is using the ~ character bash can find it but which can't20:39
trismcipherboy: oh don't know then, it is working fine here20:39
cipherboytrism: Odd. echo $PATH listed it, restarted lightdm and it worked.20:41
celroccipherboy: Hmm.... maybe it's one of those things where the user needs to log out of that session for the change to take effect?20:42
cipherboycelroc: Usually doesn't work like that... First time I have put things in home directory, but usually when I add other paths it works.  Must have been a glitch.20:42
Jordan_Ucipherboy: Is the path you were trying to add /home/cipherboy/local/bin or /home/cipherboy/bin?20:47
cipherboyJordan_U: local one.20:48
Jordan_Ucipherboy: When you first joined your example was ~/bin/, and Ubuntu's .profile is configured to add ~/bin/ to $PATH at login (and only at login) if it exists, so if you created ~/bin/ then logged out and back in again it would make sense for binaries in ~/bin/ to now be found.20:50
cipherboyJordan_U: Ah, sorry, whoops.20:51
cipherboy~/bin was added earlier and works, but ~/local/bin wasn't working for whatever reason.20:51
thufirI had to boot into safemode (root) after installing lightdm.  can I remove lightdm from safemode?20:51
Jordan_Uthufir: Yes, just "apt-get remove lightdm". lightdm is installed by default though, why were you needing to install it in the first place?20:52
thufirJordan_U: to get xubuntu-desktop to work.  after I get a graphical login screen I put in my password but get kicked out the graphical login again.  From past experience with this monitor, I need to make some setting in /etc/X/... to set the resolution (low) I think.  (it's a new computer)20:53
thufirI can't remove lightdm from safemode because the filesystem isn't read/write.  how can I get a root console with read/write to the filesystem?20:57
thufirI'm in safemode20:57
explodesthufir: Boot Live CD and go into Rescue Mode20:58
explodesFill out the basics and then hit escape20:58
explodesChoose "find hard disks" and "find disk drives"20:58
explodesthen choose "Open shell"20:58
thufirexplodes: I don't have a live cd, I have a thumb drive with 13.04 server version.20:58
explodesthat works20:58
explodesI literally did this 2 hours ago20:58
explodesw/ 13.04 server20:58
explodesboot onto that20:59
explodesand follow what I said. You'll get a shell w/ root20:59
thufirbut I want to boot into the system I installed to remove lightdm.20:59
explodesyou can from the shell20:59
thufirI looked at the grub entries in rescuemode but wasn't sure how to get to text mode21:00
explodesGo into rescue mode21:00
explodesand follow what I said21:00
explodesI literally did this 2 hours ago21:00
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thufirlet me ask in a different way.  in rescue mode there's an option to edit grub.  how can I edit grub from rescue mode so that it boots to console?21:00
explodesthufir: Oh; No idea21:02
thufirexplodes: that won't let me install/remove software, because it will be the usb stick which is effected, not the hard drive.21:02
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Jordan_Uthufir: Just "mount -o remount,rw /" to get the root filesystem writeable.21:04
thufirJordan_U: :)   thanks21:05
Jordan_Uthufir: You're welcome.21:06
fernandohello21:07
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Guest8067holaaa21:07
FfoOGood evening.21:09
shambattrying to setup a gentoo guest os on my Ubuntu Server 12.04 by issuing this command: http://dpaste.com/1310930/ I get the following result: http://dpaste.com/1310936/ How do I connect to the guest os? I do not have X on my server.21:09
Zouavmansups I need helps21:12
Dr_willis!details21:12
ubottuPlease give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."21:12
ZouavmanCan I prease has helps for a (probably real easy) issue?21:12
ZouavmanOkay cool21:12
ZouavmanI'm on Xubuntu, trying to install Minecraft on a brand new macheen21:13
Zouavmanhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/minecraft-installer-for-ubuntu21:13
ZouavmanBut I get stuck at the following site simply because I have no idea how to install the damn installer in the first place :/21:13
kmystanybody know about routing different networks?21:13
Zouavmanhttps://launchpad.net/~minecraft-installer-peeps/+archive/minecraft-installer21:13
Dr_willisinstall the installer? Download make it executable  and run it?21:13
ZouavmanDr_willis, That's the link I'm looking for on launchpad21:14
Dr_willisoh its a pps.21:14
Dr_willisppa21:14
ZouavmanI just don't get it, you'd think the download link would be obvious, yeah?21:14
Dr_willisYou can update your system with unsupported packages from this untrusted PPA by adding ppa:minecraft-installer-peeps/minecraft-installer to your system's Software Sources. (Read about installing)21:14
ZouavmanDr_willis, would you say that's a pretty dumb idea since the thing is not trusted yeah?21:14
Dr_willis You add the 'ppa' to your systems list of sources. then use the package manager tools to install what you want from the ppa21:14
Dr_willisZouavman,   ppa's are used all the time. they are by definition not officially supported here.21:15
Dr_willis!ppa21:15
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge21:15
ZouavmanHmmm so what command should I type in the command emulator thing?21:15
Dr_willissudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name21:15
emxhow do i make a service to be started during boot?21:15
Dr_willisusing the name the site says21:16
ZouavmanThanks, I'll try this! :)21:16
Dr_willisppa:minecraft-installer-peeps/minecraft-installer21:16
Dr_willisits documented at that url :) in the guide/tooltip thing21:16
Dr_willisthen sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade , then sudo apt-get install minecraft-installer21:16
Dr_willisthen you run minecraft-installer21:17
ZouavmanK I just did the first one sudo add-apt-repository ppa:...., what next?21:18
ZouavmanDr_willis, thanks btw for all yer help dawg21:18
Dr_willislook at the commands i gave above...21:18
Dr_willisupdate, upgrade, install, run the thang21:18
Zouavmanoh cool, just "sudo apt-get update" works?21:19
ZouavmanThanks21:19
ZouavmanI shall try21:19
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ZouavmanDr_willis: It works! Thanks a ton for your help21:26
ZouavmanI don't know if you're a real doctor, but damn it if you done healed my problem21:26
ZouavmanMuchas21:26
ZouavmanAnd much love21:26
ZouavmanPeace :)21:26
RxDxI upgraded my GnomeShell, using ppa, on my Ubuntu 13.04 and now my lock screen just freezes (I can unlock it by typing password, but it does not appear on screen)21:28
axexandru [00:32] [axexandru(+i)] [3:freenode/#ubuntu(+CLcfjnt #ubuntu-unregged 5:10)] [Act: 1]21:32
axexandru [00:32] [axexandru(+i)] [3:freenode/#ubuntu(+CLcfjnt #ubuntu-unregged 5:10)] [Act: 1]21:32
k1l_RxDx: well, best way is to talk to the PPA maintainers21:34
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assadsdfsdcan anyone give me an idea of what this error means? EXT4-fs (sda1): ext4_orphan_cleanup: deleting unreferenced inode21:38
assadsdfsdis refering to the hard drive or ram?21:38
saintcajetanAlright pretty much I want to be able to have access to the software I had paid for in the ubuntu store, what is the website where I can retrieve my password if I lost the account?21:39
Dr_willissounds like some sort of filesystem curruption on sda121:39
saintcajetanI dont think its the same as the ubuntu forum, not sure because there was several different things.21:39
Dr_willisassadsdfsd,  id be fscking that filesystem to see if any errors get corrected21:39
saintcajetanThere was Ubuntu one and who knows what else I signed up for >.<21:39
assadsdfsdDr_willis: well its a fresh install of the OS, disk ulity shows the drive to be perfect health, maybe the (ssd) is bad?21:39
Dr_willisassadsdfsd,  that dosent mean the filesystem does not have some curruption.21:40
Dr_willisDisk can be good.. fs has issues.21:40
Dr_willisfsck it and see.21:40
assadsdfsdDr_willis: fsck? how to I do that? command?21:40
wilee-nileesaintcajetan, Might ask at #ubuntuone21:40
Dr_willis!fsck21:40
ubottufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot21:40
assadsdfsdJust run "fsck" naked in the terminal?21:41
Dr_willisyou do NOT fsck a filesystem thats in use/mounted read/write - i always use a live-cd for fscking my system.21:41
assadsdfsdOkay, i'll run a live usb, can you give me the full command to use?21:41
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g3org3sanyone knows how can i exit nano on french keyboard ?21:51
Dr_willisctrl-x or ctrl-o  would be my guess21:52
euxnekswhat is the default window decorator for unity?21:52
Dr_willisshould show the keycoded at the bottom21:52
Dr_williseuxneks,  that would be the gtk-decorator i belve.  since theres only like 2 decorators for compiz to use.21:52
g3org3sDr_willis lol thanks its writeen ^X .... confusing21:52
Dr_willisor do you mean what THEME is it using21:53
euxneksDr_willis, thanks21:53
Dr_willisg3kk3r,  ^ = control key21:53
euxneksno I want to make a theme21:53
Dr_willisone of the many reasons i feel nano should be replaced21:53
Dr_williseuxneks,  so i dont get what you are asking then.21:54
euxneksDr_willis, you answered my question :) I want to make a theme for window decorations and I needed to know what the default window decorator was for unity and ubuntu21:54
Dr_willisits for COMPIZ21:55
euxneksoh, really?21:55
euxneksoh that's awesome21:55
Dr_williscompiz uses the gtk-decorator  , theres also emerald and the qt-decorator i recall.21:55
Dr_willisbut the gtk-decorator uses gtk themes21:55
medhello22:00
JohnathonDoeHey22:00
zipperRunning Kubuntu and wondering what this means: Bell in session 'Shell'22:00
zipperI searched around and discovered that it's a KDE specific notification22:01
saintcajetanwilee-nilee, thanks lets see if they can help >.<22:02
JohnathonDoeIt's most likely a Konsole notification.22:02
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Raydiationhi, is there a way to circumvent that enter when using sudo add-apt-repository22:08
Raydiationi need it for a script22:09
PriceyRaydiation: include '-y'22:09
Raydiationthanks22:09
PriceyRaydiation: man add-apt-repository22:09
RaydiationPricey: not on ubuntu22:09
Raydiationits for travis-ci22:09
wilee-nileead134, You can't use the hybrid hibernate in windows and access it from ubuntu period.22:10
PriceyRaydiation: no man?22:10
dinnahi hav ma desk top scren conected 2 ma laptop....but i js switch frm 1 scren 2 another.hlp plis.22:10
runnyspoti'm trying to find directories called tmpxxx in the /tmp directory. `find /tmp/ -maxdepth 1 -type d -name tmp\*` also returns /tmp in addition to the directories i'm looking for22:13
runnyspothow can i prevent it from returning itself?22:13
runnyspotfind /tmp/* -maxdepth 0 -type d -name tmp\*22:13
runnyspoti guess is the best soln22:13
Jordan_Urunnyspot: find /tmp/ -maxdepth 1 -type d -name 'tmp???'22:14
Jordan_Urunnyspot: Depending on what your goal is you could also use simply "echo /tmp/tmp*/" .22:15
Jordan_Urunnyspot: What is your end goal?22:16
runnyspotcron to delete folders in tmp directory that are left behind22:16
euxneksok, so I need to convert an emerald theme into something I can use in ubuntu 13.0422:17
euxnekswell, "need" I suppose is subjective22:17
euxneksI would *like to* convert a theme for use in ubuntu+unity 13.0422:18
runnyspoti'm actullay dealing with another issue someone might be able to help with, when i run nagios@nagios:~$ crontab -e, i get crontabs/nagios/: fdopen: Permission denied22:18
euxnekshrm.. maybe someone can tell me where ambiance is stored?22:21
euxneksthe window theme?22:21
wachpwnskii think it's in shared or something22:22
Jordan_Urunnyspot: "rmdir /tmp/tmp*/" (which will only remove empty directories).22:22
wachpwnskiWhat is the best practice to run something at startup as a user?22:25
wachpwnskicron job?22:25
bossman759Can't you set it as a start up program or are you trying to do something different? wachpwnski22:27
wachpwnskibossman759: i am on ubuntu server22:27
bossman759oh ok22:27
bossman759cron job sounds like a good idea22:27
wachpwnskiwhen the server starts up I want it to start up a program with dtach22:27
Priceywachpwnski: a '@reboot' crontab line seems good for that22:28
bossman759yeah I'm pretty sure a cron job could do that22:28
wachpwnskiif I want it to run as that user22:29
RaydiationPricey: im on archlinux22:29
Raydiationno manpages for debian stuff22:29
Raydiationbut thanks :)22:29
bossman759if you're logged in on that user wouldn't run as that user?22:29
PriceyRaydiation: You're in #ubuntu :(22:30
RaydiationPricey: yeah because travis-ci uses ubuntu vms to run CI tests22:30
mathisenwachpwnski, you could take a look at /etc/rc.d/rc.local22:30
napcok, so i'm almost embarrassed to admit this.  I have a relatively new laptop.  the webcam works fine, but i wanted to know what kind it was.  i tried listing with: lshw,lsusb,lspci (all grepping "cam") but nothing listed.  Had to install hwinfo to find out.  Is there some command other than hwinfo to extract webcam info?22:32
Raydiationnapc: there are some graphical tools that give you a lot of info22:33
Raydiationnapc: http://askubuntu.com/questions/31618/how-can-i-find-my-hardware-details22:33
Raydiationalso some command i cant remember, something with bios in it i think22:33
Raydiationah right, i was wrong: dmidecode22:34
napcforgot... tried that one too...22:35
napcthx... i just thought there was something installed by default.22:35
varunendranapc, usb-devices22:39
napcvarunendra: yes.  that works. thx to both of you.22:42
varunendra:)22:42
napcalways another command to learn/know22:42
varunendranapc, usb-devices is not universal though. I think it only works on some distros like Ubuntu. Same goes for lshw.22:44
cynar_I dont suppose anyone online either knows about pulse audio, or can point me at a good tutorial?22:45
jhutchinsI can never remember the command to open a file in a gui app from the console.22:46
smw_cynar_, tutorial to do what?22:46
smw_cynar_, (although I know so little I doubt I can help you)22:46
varunendrajhutchins, like "gksu gedit <file>"?22:47
varunendraor just "gedit <file>"22:47
cynar_I'm trying to get my head around it for a project22:48
cynar_it looks able to do the job, but is currently WAY beyond my abilities22:49
cynar_http://rlab.org.uk/wiki/Jukebox22:49
* cynar_ thinks he hears smw_ flee with a slight wimper22:51
* smw_ looks around22:51
smw_cynar_, you didn't see my name so I did see you said anything :-P22:51
cynar_sorry, out of irc habit22:52
quuxmanIs there an xmodmap keysym for ctrl+x?22:52
smw_cynar_, yep, wait beyond my abilities as well22:52
MeatloafSoaringI've just set up Ubuntu on my old computer that's got an ATI X800 video card.  I'm seeing some goofy glitches...what drivers should I be using?22:53
smw_cynar_, try #pulseaudio?22:53
cynar_thanks for at least looking, it's more than I've gotten from the pulseaudio channel22:53
smw_cynar_, heh22:53
cynar_smw_ first place i looked22:53
cynar_ /asked22:54
holsteinMeatloafSoaring: the better question might be, what hardware should you be using.. but i would just try the drivers available, and use what works best.. the hardware support is different from case to case22:54
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MeatloafSoaringholstein: Well...I'd just like to not see these visual glitches.  I'm not sure if they're being caused by the driver I'm currently using.  I believe I'm using the open source driver22:56
quuxmanWhat I want is capslock+j/k/l/i be arrow keys, as well as a few other bindings, but have the capslock+<any-other-key> behave as ctl+<other-key>22:56
quuxmanI've got arrow keys with capslock by mapping capslock to mod5, but using that method I need a keysym for ctrl+x22:57
holsteinMeatloafSoaring: just confirm that, and try the other one.. its not a normal feature of the OS, if thats is the concern22:57
quuxmanand all the other ctrl combos I want to save22:57
backjlackDoes anyone happen to know how to get past the "Disk full" error when preparing a custom netboot mini.iso image?23:02
wilee-nileebackjlack, what disc is full?23:02
backjlackwilee-nilee: netboot.img23:03
hazardoushi23:03
hazardousjust wondering is it possible to define the random port range23:03
whoeverquuxman: try http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/6.2/chapter07/console.html23:03
wilee-nileebackjlack, Not sure I understand.23:03
hazardousmy webserver deals with probably upwards of 50k sockets at a time and sometimes when i restart a daemon it can't bind23:03
quuxmanwhoever: I'm using X of course though...23:03
hazardousbecause it's in established or wait23:03
quuxmanwhoever: loadkeys has no effect in X23:04
Phoenix1969ok, 2 systems now, same result, aftert installing ubuntu, and rebooting to the os choosing screen, i get the error message \ubuntu\winboot\wubildt.mbr isn't there, but it is... what to try?23:04
quuxmanthe general problem is I want capslock to behave as ctrl in most cases, but with 8 key combos, I want it to produce specific keysyms23:05
k1l_Phoenix1969: screw wubi23:05
whoeverquuxman: settings > keyboard > shortcut23:05
Phoenix1969k1l, then how to fixx?23:05
holsteinPhoenix1969: you could try a different version with wubi.. 12.04 if you are using 13.04. or just dont use wubi23:06
k1l_Phoenix1969: as i told before. wubi is very difficult to fix. most supporters in here recommend to make a real install on own partitions23:06
whoeverquuxman: if that doesn't work then you may need to use a key combo to load a custom keymap via script with a toggle state23:06
Phoenix1969hmm, ok, then try the 12.xx install?23:06
holsteinPhoenix1969: why not do an actual install?23:07
Phoenix1969how?23:07
holstein!install23:07
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate23:07
quuxmanwhoever: does that actually work? wow, how do you do that23:07
holstein!dualboot23:07
ubottuDual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot23:07
quuxmanwhoever: (making a mod load a different keymap)23:07
Phoenix1969i tried usb, cd, and from desktop, all same result23:07
whoeverquuxman: what is the end result that you are hoping for ? that ctr + j/k/l work like they do in vim23:08
holsteinPhoenix1969: tried what? dualbooting?23:08
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holsteinPhoenix1969: an *actual* install.. not a wubi23:08
quuxmanwhoever: yeah, in all apps (except I'm using dvorak so its htnc)23:08
we6jboHi23:08
we6jboI have a question23:08
mjaykI install a program from a .run file and I cannot find it in the apps lens any help appriciated23:08
mjaykubuntu 13.04 64 bit23:09
whoeverquuxman: create script use keyboard shortcut to map to that scrip and basted on state of a variable will depend what happens23:09
holsteinmjayk: you would ask the maintainer of the application, or make a custom lanucher23:09
quuxmanwhoever: I just want my home keys to be arrow keys with capslock, but capslock to be ctrl for common shortcuts like ctrl+x/v/c/l ...23:09
mjaykholstein: sorry i dont understand what a maintainer is :) im not that up to date23:09
mjaykwith pc's :)23:09
quuxmanwhoever: doesn't sound practical to make a syscall when capslock goes down, and another when it goes up23:09
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whoeverquuxman: there is prop a plugin that already does that23:10
Phoenix1969ok, so partition the drive first?23:10
Phoenix1969then install to that?23:10
we6jboIs there a way to start Empathy in online mode or to manually change Empathy from offline to online at the command prompt?23:10
holsteinmjayk: ubuntu maintains the applications in the repos.. if you downloaded a .run file, it has a creator, and a maintainer.. you can ask them how you are to launch it.. or create a custom launcher23:10
whoeverquuxman: what your describing does not sound practical23:10
mjayki know how to launch it23:10
holsteinPhoenix1969: i would literally make a CD, or USB as described at the links i gave, and boot them.. and install23:10
quuxmanwhoever: it's very practical. Means I never have to reach for arrow keys, which causes me RSI23:10
mjaykcan i can launch it23:10
zx2i have USB-VGA adapter as /dev/fb1  whats the best X11 setup23:11
mjayki want it to appear in the search when i type "program name" into the dash23:11
whoeverquuxman: you can just create a keyboart shortcut that will capture the key combos too23:11
mjaykthats the probem23:11
Phoenix1969i did that, same result, but i did no partition23:11
quuxmanwhoever: I already have it totally working by using xmodmap. Only disadvantage is I have to use the normal ctrl key for cut, paste, go to URL bar, etc23:11
holsteinmjayk: and you want a shortcut in the menu.. but the maintainer didnt provide that functionality... so you can ask them for it, or create a custom lanucher23:11
Phoenix1969i tried usb, cd, and desktop, all same result23:11
whoeveralso you can creat shortcuts and map ctrl+k  arrowRight23:11
mjaykholstein: it has a desktop launcher23:11
mjayki want it to appear in the search lens23:12
holsteinmjayk: it might not.. and i dont use lenses.. so, i'll let you wait patiently for another volunteer23:12
whoeverquuxman: then map right ctrl to the left ctrl23:12
holsteinPhoenix1969: you try a normal install? and you get that wubi error you posted?23:12
Phoenix1969so would partitioning the c drive help that?23:12
thufirhow do you edit grub to boot to console?23:12
quuxmanwhoever: I didn't say anything about Control_L vs Control_R... how does that help anything?23:13
mjaykholstein: that was my question. thnx I guess you just mean someone else idling :)23:13
Phoenix1969yes, i tried a dozen times on 2 different systems23:13
holsteinPhoenix1969: running the installer will allow you create a dualboot scenario23:13
anoneeHello ubuntu! so about this icon problem i ran into, I just wanted to tell u how did I resolve it, I just did sudo gtk-update-icon-cache /usr/share/icons/<mytheme>; for more info http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/gutsy/man1/gtk-update-icon-cache.1.html23:13
holsteinmjayk: i mean, not me, since you are highlighting me, and im not going to know anything about adding applications to a lense23:13
Phoenix1969the dualboot says there are missing mbr files, but they are there23:13
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holsteinPhoenix1969: what dual boot?23:14
mjaykholstein: highlighted due to it being a response as is this :) i didnt highlight you in the original question23:14
Phoenix1969when you boot the sys, a screen comes up to choose OS23:14
holsteinmjayk: sure.. but, you can not hightlight me anymore, since i cannot help you.. thanks!23:14
whoeverquuxman: you said normal ctrl, which i assume is left ctrl23:14
Phoenix1969i choose ubuntu, and get instant error missing mbr23:15
mjaykholstein: same to you thanks again23:15
wilee-nileethufir, You might start here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Booting_from_a_serial_console23:15
quuxmanwhoever: ah sorry. I meant either control key, in their normal position in the bottom right or left, which sucks23:15
whoeverquuxman: since right and left alt also do different things23:15
holsteinPhoenix1969: you choose ubuntu from grub?23:15
wilee-nileethufir, Or actually here the page. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub223:15
Phoenix1969yes23:15
whoeverquuxman: each key has a nemaric value that is uniqu you can bind to that if you want l or r ctrl specificly23:16
thufirwilee-nilee: thanks, I'll check that out in lynx23:16
holsteinPhoenix1969: what do you want? i dont think the wubi installs are expecting grub.. that could be an issue.. i would decide which you want, and troubleshoot it23:16
quuxmanthink I know how to do this. Map capslock as ctrl instead of mod5, and use XKB to remap ctrl+<h> to Left keysym, etc23:17
quuxmanwhoever: I know :-)23:17
Phoenix1969I know no uther way, every install comes up that way, how do i avoid grub?23:17
wilee-nileethufir, It is pretty straight forward I just forget the mod needed in /etc/default/grub or in the grub menu if you want it per-session.23:17
holsteinPhoenix1969: i didnt say avoid grub.. but wubi is not expecting grub.. so that could be causing the error.. which do you want to use?23:18
Phoenix1969i dont care, i just want dual boot23:18
holsteinPhoenix1969: either way, i think you have a mess.. from what you are saying, you have a wubi install that is failing, and an actual dualboot scenario that is failing23:18
whoeverquuxman: are we cookin with gas yet ?23:18
holsteinPhoenix1969: i would remove the wubi install, and post the *exact* grub error you are having23:18
Phoenix1969k... 1 min...23:19
holsteinPhoenix1969: this is an easy tool to use from live CD's that typically fixes most boot issues https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair23:19
quuxmanwhoever: I missed the reference. I'm reading https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/XKB right now. I will have the ultimate keyboard layout soon!!!23:19
Phoenix1969http://i.imgur.com/jEV8s0y.jpg23:19
Phoenix1969ill try that23:20
holsteinPhoenix1969: if you want to dual boot, remove that wubi install23:20
madezHello everbody. How can I include a kernelmodule into initramfs?23:20
Phoenix1969how? delete the ubuntu folder on c drive?23:20
quuxmanhow does XKB relate to xmodmap?23:21
Phoenix1969or choose the uninstall wubi23:21
wilee-nileePhoenix1969, control panel add remove softwaree23:21
Phoenix1969k23:21
holsteinPhoenix1969: its removable as an appliction.. but, you should be seeing grub at boot, if you did a dual boot setup23:21
whoeverquuxman: ok, are we making progress23:21
whoeverquuxman: are you sure there isn't a plug in already that does ths23:22
Phoenix1969the grub shows, but goes straight to error when choose ubuntu23:22
holsteinPhoenix1969: you are showing a windows boot loader there23:22
holsteinPhoenix1969: you should have grub.. and will, if you do a proper dual boot setup23:23
quuxmanwhoever: yeah sure. I just have to read the docs on XKB. It makes the xmodmap system obsolete, and is not actually capable of making one key behave as two different modifiers, but XKB easily can do that23:23
quuxmaner, I mean xmodmap is not capable of that23:23
Phoenix1969just uninstalled from programs& features, now what?23:23
Phoenix1969try reboot?23:23
quuxmanapparently everybody still uses xmodmap because it's entrenched and simpler23:23
holsteinPhoenix1969: set up the dual boot.. install ubuntu, or if you have already installed it, restore grub23:24
Phoenix1969or install from cd?23:24
DarthExpeditorI expanded a FAT16 partition on a thumb drive but when I try to copy files to it I still get the disk full error23:24
holsteinPhoenix1969: if you havent.. install from cd or usb.. or dvd.. or whatever23:24
Phoenix1969was  done before, should i do again, or try the boot fixer cd?23:25
holsteinPhoenix1969: try whatever fits the scnario we discussed23:25
holsteinPhoenix1969: if you have installed, then restore grub23:25
holsteinPhoenix1969: if you havent.. install the OS23:25
whoeverquuxman: http://askubuntu.com/questions/13108/map-keyboard-arrows-to-shortcuts23:26
meowsups peoples. :) I just installed xubuntu on a dying PC, and once in a while it keeps "screen of death"-ing23:26
Phoenix1969ill be trying right now...bb soon...wish me luck...lol23:26
meowI suspect it's because it's overheating, but I'm wondering if one could find out23:26
meowwhat causes the computer to freeze & shut down23:27
DarthExpeditorI expanded a FAT16 partition on a thumb drive but when I try to copy files to it I still get the disk full error23:27
meowAnyone remotely interested in solving this mystery?23:27
bekksDarthExpeditor: How large are the files?23:28
meow#xubuntu23:28
whoeverquuxman: did you get my last post23:29
holsteinmeow: linux wont fix the hardware. i would test the basics.. memory, and the hard drive23:29
aguitel_how to watch netflix in ubuntu ?23:29
DarthExpeditor2.8GB23:29
whoeverquuxman: its alreay been done for you -23:29
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kickit2hello everyone - is it possible to do installs via pxe and NFS (to the local drive).  Everything I find refers to 10.04 or older and it seems that something has changed as it will not accept the local server (ive tried ftp, http, and nfs) as a source complainging of a missing file from a /tmp dir23:30
bekksDarthExpeditor: thats too big for FAT16.23:30
kickit2btw - attempting to install 12.04lts23:30
DarthExpeditorOK. Then this is fucking worthless23:30
holstein!language | DarthExpeditor23:30
ubottuDarthExpeditor: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.23:31
DarthExpeditorKinda what I suspected.23:31
bekksDarthExpeditor: Use FAT32 and watch your language.23:31
DarthExpeditorProblem that I have is that a vendor gave me an image for their "recovery" software23:31
DarthExpeditorI'm supposed to run the image onto the flash drive and then copy the recovery image to the drive so it can be restored.23:32
DarthExpeditorThen I boot off the drive and restore it.23:32
DarthExpeditorproblem is that the "recovery" software image is in FAT1623:32
DarthExpeditorTards23:32
DarthExpeditorIs there a way to convert it?23:32
quuxmanwhoever: not exactly what I'm looking for, but thanks23:33
whoeverquuxman: ok, so back at originl idea23:33
quuxmanwhoever: yeah, that post suggested using Alt-Gr for the modifier23:34
kickit2im getting the feeling that there is something missing from the download ISO that is needed for the pxe client to accept the server as a source.  any one know what this is?  I was going to just clone a mirror but thats a 101GB download, which is crazy excessive!23:34
bekksDarthExpeditor: No. Create a FAT32 filesystem.23:35
wilee-nileekickit2, Doesn't the iso have a sum?23:36
DarthExpeditorYeah. That's the obvious answer but you missed the part where I told you I was having to use a factory image that is bootable.23:36
bossman759does anyone know how to completely remove KDE from ubuntu? I've tried looking on askubuntu but what I found didn't actually remove it.23:37
OerHeks!puregnome23:38
ubottuIf you want to remove all !Kubuntu packages or !Xubuntu packages and have a default !Ubuntu system, follow the instructions here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu23:38
kickit2wilee-nilee: the checksome matches - I think that there is something physically left out of the iso that the repository has.  the PXE setup boots fine, but when it comes to selecting a source, it refuses to accect the lan server while it will take internet servers..23:38
wilee-nileebossman759, Take a look in playing around. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/23:38
bekksDarthExpeditor: Well, you just cant copy a file that large onto it.23:39
wilee-nileekickit2, Not sure but my suspicion would be your understanding how to set that up.23:39
whoeverquuxman: i assume this is what your looking for /at http://askubuntu.com/questions/254424/how-can-i-change-what-keys-on-my-keyboard-do-how-can-i-create-custom-keyboard23:40
kickit2wilee-nille:  this link says the same thing, but for 12.10 http://askubuntu.com/questions/204786/unable-to-install-12-10-with-pxe  when doing this, their supposed "50MB" comes back as 101GB. 50MB i can handle.. 101GB and I might as well just let them all install directly over the net with http!23:40
wilee-nileekickit2, What aren't you?23:41
kickit2net as in internet, not lan.. I want to do via LAN.. download the distro once and let the clients grab it from there23:42
MarkusDBXAnyone who knows which window manager this is? https://downloads.kitenet.net/videos/git-annex/git-annex-assistant-intro.ogv23:43
markovhhow can i tell which source a package is coming from?23:44
wilee-nileeMarkusDBX, lxds or lubuntu23:46
wilee-nileelxde23:46
MarkusDBXwilee-nilee: thanks23:46
darkblue_bhi all - I am trying backportage, but it fails at the last step "file or directory not found"  it appears to do wverything else.. I am following htese instructions  http://architects.dzone.com/articles/how-backport-packages-ubuntu23:46
MarkusDBXthe tiling in lxde look smooth23:46
darkblue_bI am logged into a 12.04 system, pulling ipython from raring23:47
darkblue_bI named my new PPA ipython-bp23:47
darkblue_bbut I have no idea which step is failing.. the python stack trace does not say23:47
darkblue_bPlease check ipython 0.13.2-2~precise1~ppa1 in file:///tmp/backportpackage-vI8xHm23:50
darkblue_bthe cmd is     backportpackage -u ppa:screenlight/ipython-bp ipython23:50
Picidarkblue_b: #ubuntu-packaging would probably be a more appropriate place to ask23:51
darkblue_boh! didnt know.. ok23:51
rypervenchedarkblue_b: I think the PPA probably also has something to do with it. PPAs are bad :/23:52
localh0sthow can i chec wha'ts the repository source of package ?23:58
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kostkonlocalh0st, apt-cache policy package_name23:59

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