[00:01] <reisio> Frankler: honestly, I think the NSA is just a manifestation of an mplayer process
[00:01] <reisio> I'm pretty sure we all live in the mplayer
[00:01] <euxneks> to answer my own questions: yes, ubuntu uses iptables still, it's probably easier to just use the CLI to do iptables
[00:02] <reisio> everything uses iptables :)
[00:02] <DYSW> thats a bold statement reisio
[00:03] <s1lence> Does anybody have any ideas as to what the mysterious announcement on ubuntu.com means?
[00:03] <euxneks> I bet it's something to do with mobile and desktop interoperability
[00:03] <clue_h> maybe it's to do with ubuntu touch
[00:04] <euxneks> s1lence, though this is a discussion that would best be had in ubuntu-offtopic :)
[00:04] <s1lence> Thank you euxneks
[00:04] <reisio> DYSW: nah
[00:04] <semitones> s1lence: make sure to say hi first if you go there
[00:06] <matelot> my desktop is messed up http://i.imgur.com/72XCLka.jpg  how to reset it ?
[00:06] <MoTec> try a hammer
[00:06] <Mudack> Mudack here with another problem...i'm about ready to switch back to ubuntu.
[00:06] <MoTec> sorry.. wrong channel
[00:07] <lauratika> is there a way to have a different wallpaper on each login account in ubuntu?
[00:07] <Siberian_Tiger> matelot, wow
[00:07] <Siberian_Tiger> What did you do?
[00:07] <reisio> lauratika: yup
[00:08] <vader_> Anybody know how to change Elinks default image viewer from fbi to fbv? fbi does not work in Screen or fbterm :/
[00:08] <clue_h> matelot, looks kind of abstract
[00:08] <Mudack> reisio: I put you in my friends list if that's alright.
[00:08] <lauratika> reisio: do you know how?
[00:08] <reisio> Mudack: :)
[00:09] <reisio> lauratika: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/04/wallch-wallpaper-changer-for-gnome-3.html maybe
[00:09] <matelot> clue_h:  you see how I have 4 "desktop" there…pls help
[00:09] <lauratika> reisio: but most important will you share this info?
[00:09] <reisio> depends on exactly what you want
[00:09] <Mudack> reisio: but unfortunately I have another problem...
[00:09] <reisio> there are a number of ways you could accomplish it
[00:09] <lauratika> reisio: to me?
[00:09] <reisio> lauratika: yes
[00:10] <Mudack> I'll brb
[00:10] <lauratika> well, i want to be able to each user has its own wallppaper on the login page, the link you post is about a third application is there a way via terminal perhaps or a GUI?
[00:11] <reisio> lauratika: hrmm, you want the wallpaper to be unique to a user? Or to actually change the moment you click a name?
[00:11] <reisio> the former is quite simple
[00:11] <Phoenix1969> have I finally reached the ubuntu help channel?
[00:11] <reisio> Phoenix1969: yup
[00:11] <MoTec> No.. I'm sorry.. This is the pre-help channel
[00:11] <lauratika> be unique to a user login page
[00:12] <Mudack> I;m back
[00:12] <semitones> This is only the limbo level of help
[00:12] <MoTec> if your question is deemed actually worth of help you will be fowarded to a secondary channel which will verify your ability to actually receive help.
[00:12] <reisio> lauratika: well the login screen handles more than one user
[00:12] <reisio> lauratika: how do you want to differentiate?
[00:12] <lauratika> MoTec: LOLMA
[00:12] <Phoenix1969> I have the blue windows startscreen where you choose the OS, but the keyboard seems unresponsive & it just counts down from 10 then boots to win8
[00:12] <lauratika> with wallpaper
[00:12] <semitones> there are 7 levels below this one
[00:13] <MoTec> semitones: indeed.. progress has been made!
[00:13] <Mudack> reisio: with all the problems i'm having with Musix should I just switch to Ubuntu?
[00:13] <reisio> lauratika: so you go to the login screen, choose a user & login, then once logged in you see a user-specific wallpaper? That's what you want?
[00:13] <lauratika> Phoenix1969: you install a dual ubuntu/windows?
[00:13] <Phoenix1969> laura, yes
[00:13] <Phoenix1969> on same drive
[00:13] <Mudack> Phoenix1969: What are your Specs?
[00:13] <lauratika> no, just on the login screen, each account has their own walpapper
[00:14] <reisio> Mudack: it's hard to say whether that'd make any difference
[00:14] <Phoenix1969> 500 gb ssd msi gd658d, core173930k
[00:14] <lauratika> Phoenix1969:ubuntu is your second install
[00:14] <reisio> Mudack: what trouble are you having now?
[00:14] <Phoenix1969> yes, 2nd
[00:14] <Mudack> reisio: Chrome and other installations
[00:14] <reisio> Mudack: what about them?
[00:15] <Phoenix1969> aaah, its the amd 8core
[00:15] <subcool> i have a hdd on usb, if i were to use esata plug, would it change the /dev/sd*?
[00:15] <lauratika> Phoenix1969: and is not booting on ubuntu? just windows
[00:15] <lauratika> reisio: no, just on the login screen, each account has their own walpapper
[00:15] <reisio> subcool: it very well may
[00:16] <reisio> subcool: you could give it a LABEL or utilize a UUID, though
[00:16] <reisio> subcool: or setup a udev rule to always keep it at /dev/specificName
[00:16] <Phoenix1969> right, it has the option at start, but not in bios, in some weird blue windows screen, but keyboard no go
[00:16] <Phoenix1969> how to choose ubuntu?
[00:16] <reisio> lauratika: that you see when you click on the name?
[00:17] <lauratika> reisio: i see the same wallpapper i add to login admin account
[00:17] <Mudack> Reisio: My terminal says that it can't fetch any of the packages i'm requesting and the official websites won't give me a easily running file, and I can't find a system Software Center
[00:17] <lauratika> Phoenix1969: what you mean the option at start but not in bios?
[00:17] <reisio> lauratika: do you need to know how to change the wallpaper at all? Or something more complicated?
[00:17] <lauratika> Phoenix1969: do you have the opotion or not to boot into ubuntu?
[00:17] <reisio> Mudack: tell the channel about the error
[00:18] <Mudack> Phoenix1969: Do you mean the boot menu?
[00:18] <Phoenix1969> it does have the option there indeed, i just am unable to physically choose it
[00:18] <lauratika> resisio: change wallpaper at login for each account, not the wallpaper. but at login. are you following me?
[00:18] <Mudack> Reisio: which channel?
[00:18] <reisio> this one
[00:18] <reisio> lauratika: nope
[00:19] <subcool> reisio, well, i base this question off the fact that i have two hdd's on usb in an raid array (raid 0
[00:19] <lauratika> Phoenix1969: and keyboard works on wind 8?
[00:19] <Phoenix1969> yes
[00:19] <lauratika> reisio:is there a way to have a different wallpaper on each login account in ubuntu
[00:19] <reisio> subcool: what for
[00:19] <OerHeks> lauratika, at login, there is not a way to determin what account is on, you are at the point there is not a account active, so how do you want ubuntu to choose?
[00:19] <reisio> lauratika: yes
[00:19] <Mudack> reisio: How do I do that? *pounds fist to chest* I want to serve my community!
[00:19] <subcool> reisio, raid 0 -- now id like to switch one of them to a esata cable
[00:20] <reisio> Mudack: I'm just saying don't put my nick before the message :p more people will be likely to read it
[00:20] <Mudack> Okay
[00:20] <reisio> subcool: yeah that could be complicated :)
[00:20] <reisio> subcool: you probably don't need or want that raid, though, IMO
[00:20] <subcool> yeah, i need them in a raid 0 right now.
[00:20] <subcool> they create a larger drive i need.
[00:20] <zykotick9> !cookie | reisio
[00:20] <lauratika> OerHeks: what you talking about?, simple lighdm can have different wallppapers on the login page, and if you change up and down on different accounts login fields wallpaper can change, how i do that?
[00:21] <Mudack> Hey guys, my system software centre seems to be non-existent, my terminal won't fetch packages, and official program websites give too many options, what do I do?
[00:22] <reisio> subcool: lvm is what you'd want for "a larger drive"
[00:22] <reisio> or unionfs or something like that
[00:22] <reisio> raid is about high availability
[00:22] <reisio> and for most people: lost files :p
[00:22] <subcool> reisio, i dont like lvm very much right now.
[00:22] <Phoenix1969> it should work with the up & down arrow keys, and enter to execute...no?
[00:22] <OerHeks> lauratika, sure, lightdm can have different wallpapers, choose one. but not connected to an account, because an account is not active, so how do you expect ubuntu to know what account is active?
[00:22] <lauratika> Phoenix1969: is this a usb keyboard?
[00:22]  * OerHeks facepalms
[00:22] <reisio> subcool: nobody does :p but it does the job
[00:22] <subcool> lol
[00:22] <Phoenix1969> usb
[00:22] <reisio> lauratika: either lightdm does that or it doesn't, read the lightdm docs
[00:22] <s1lence> Mudack, what kind of error message are you getting from apt-get?
[00:23] <reisio> lauratika: if it doesn't do that, it might be simpler to find another DM that does
[00:23] <Mudack> uriah@localhost:~$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install skype
[00:23] <Mudack> Get: 1 http://packages.musix.es lenny Release.gpg [490B]
[00:23] <Mudack> Ign http://packages.musix.es lenny/main Translation-en_GB
[00:23] <Mudack> Get: 2 http://packages.musix.es lenny/updates Release.gpg [490B]
[00:23] <Mudack> Ign http://packages.musix.es lenny/updates/main Translation-en_GB
[00:23] <FloodBot1> Mudack: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:23] <Mudack> Get: 3 http://packages.musix.es lenny Release [85.6kB]
[00:23] <Mudack> Get: 4 http://packages.musix.es lenny/updates Release [3,287B]
[00:23] <Mudack> Ign http://packages.musix.es lenny Release
[00:23] <Jordan_U> subcool: The device name shouldn't matter to Ubuntu's ability to assemble the array, and if you've use static device names in any configuration files you already have an unreliable configuration.
[00:24] <lauratika> OerHeks: it used to do it, i just dont remember how i did it last time, it has to deal with ubuntu tewak perhaps?
[00:24] <zykotick9> Mudack: neither lenny nor musix is ubuntu... just sayin'
[00:24] <Mudack> Gahhh!
[00:24] <s1lence> lol
[00:24] <subcool> jordan, reisio im just curious..
[00:24] <lauratika> Phoenix1969:did you turn on legacy USB on the bios?
[00:24] <Mudack> btw, didn't mean to flood.....FloodBot was nice to me though.....
[00:25] <s1lence> Mudack, I don't really know where to go from here sorry
[00:25] <Phoenix1969> no?
[00:26] <lauratika> Phoenix1969: try that up
[00:26] <reisio> subcool: about?
[00:26] <Mudack> silence: it's fine, the .iso for Ubuntu 13.whatever is loaded and in my downloads, see y'all in a bit!
[00:26] <subcool> reisio, if it was possible without a lot of fuss.
[00:26] <Phoenix1969> k, brb
[00:26] <reisio> subcool: if what was?
[00:26] <subcool> its working fine now- just thought maybe i could tweak it..
[00:26] <quli_> the taskbar in the top and the right disappear all the time, how do I solve this without restarting???
[00:26] <subcool> changing one of them to esata.
[00:27] <reisio> subcool: it is if you know how your raid hardware/software is setup/configured
[00:27] <lauratika> : what you mean disappear
[00:27] <Jordan_U> subcool: Does this array contain your root filesystem?
[00:27] <Phoenix1969> worked like a charm instantly, thank you laura
[00:27] <subcool> its bad enough you have to have esata plugged in from the boot.
[00:27] <subcool> jordan, no
[00:27] <subcool> im using it has a backup while i test something
[00:27] <subcool> its very temporary
[00:27] <lauratika> Phoenix1969: no prob, it's odd because i assume is a new pc right?
[00:27] <quli_> lauratika: you know the bar in the top that says ubuntu desktop
[00:27] <quli_> it just disappears
[00:27] <Jordan_U> subcool: Then I don't expect you'll have any problems switching to esata.
[00:27] <quli_> well actually not only that
[00:28] <lauratika> quili: what ubuntu version you are using?
[00:28] <quli_> the top bar in any program disappears
[00:28] <aaron_> I found out more about my broadcom problem with my install. It works in kernel 3.2 but not with 3.8, anyone have any clues as to how I can make wireless work with 3.8?
[00:28] <quli_> the part that says file, etc
[00:28] <semitones> What command in bash tells you file size?
[00:28] <zykotick9> quli_: restart unity, or better yet, restart light dm.  from a virtual console "sudo service lightdm restart" then log in again [i have no idea how to restart unity].
[00:28] <Jordan_U> semitones: du -h /path/to/file
[00:29] <zykotick9> semitones: "ls -l" or "ls -sh"
[00:29] <quli_> zykotick9: but I have a lot of programs opened
[00:29] <semitones> thanks Jordan_U
[00:29] <quli_> zykotick9: will it affect them?
[00:29] <Jordan_U> semitones: You're welcome.
[00:29] <semitones> zykotick9: I tried ls -l but didn't see sizes. I'll try -sh too
[00:29] <zykotick9> quli_: ya - you need to restart unity - i don't know how, good luck!
[00:29] <lauratika> quil: you also can try unity --reset
[00:30] <quli_> lauratika: can I do that with all the programs opened?
[00:30] <Mudack> reisio: *facepalm* I found the Xarchive application. I'm glad I did one last sweep!!!
[00:30] <lauratika> quil: this will restart unity.
[00:30] <reisio> Mudack: and what do you plan on doing with that? :p
[00:30] <reisio> Mudack: installing applications from tarballs on distros like Ubuntu is usually doing it wrong
[00:31] <Mudack> reisio: at least now I get my programs xD
[00:31] <quli_> lauratika: I don't know what is unity, will it affect opened programs?
[00:32] <irssi-mike> my ctrl alt f keys aren't bringing me to tty
[00:32] <dr_willis> !unity
[00:32] <reisio> if you say so
[00:33] <irssi-mike> meh i'm gonna reboot, maybe it's a glitch.
[00:33] <wN> subcool: whats wrong with lvM?
[00:34] <reisio> he prefers the much more complicated and inappropriate raid :p
[00:34] <wN> <3 lvm
[00:34] <w30> Well, Guys an Gals; I have Unity Tweak Tool, Ubuntu Tweak, and  Tweak Tool installed and I still can't find a way to keep Unity from grabbing the menu bar and sticking it in the top panel. Has any one got any advice? maybe an edit to dconfig?
[00:34] <cuddylier> Anyone know a tutorial on how to use a gre tunnel from cnservers and offer it as e.g. remote protection that e.g. javapipe offers?
[00:35] <Phoenix1969> so, after choosing ubuntu at the startscreen, it came up & said completing installation.... screen went blank...computer still on... 5 mins now...... that normal?
[00:35] <dr_willis> w30:  disable the global menu feature
[00:35] <irssi-mike> yup, it was a glitch.
[00:35] <w30> dr_willis, how? in what? where?
[00:35] <dr_willis> w30:  askubuntu.com or webupd8  blog site has guides
[00:36] <tapper> w30: windows snapping in unity tweat
[00:36] <tapper> *tweak
[00:37] <dr_willis> global menu  moves the menu from the app window into the top panel. its rather easy to disable i revall
[00:37] <semitones> What could cause a file to show up in ls, but not be stat'ed by cp, and not readable by du?
[00:37] <quli_> Starting gtk-window-decorator compiz (decor) - Warn: No default decoration found, placement will not be correct compiz (decor) - Warn: No default decoration found, placement will not be correct
[00:37] <quli_> seems to be working but takes it's long time
[00:37] <tapper> w30: sorry misread your post
[00:38] <devmedoo> help me please
[00:38] <semitones> ls -sh says it's 12K, but du doesn't see it, cp can't copy it, what is going on with that file?
[00:38] <devmedoo> i have a problem
[00:38] <quli_> this unity --reset, do I need to stop it? cause it doesn't give me the prompt back
[00:38] <devmedoo> installing ybyntu
[00:39] <devmedoo> help me plzz?
[00:39] <Phoenix1969> screen still blank after it said "Finishing installation"....  how long typically on a fast system?
[00:39] <devmedoo> i have a problem installing ubuntu
[00:39] <quli_> ybyntu?
[00:39] <dr_willis> quli_:  should have used a  & at the end..  ttr a   ctrl-z  then "bg"  in the twrminal
[00:39] <devmedoo> sorry wrong typed
[00:39] <quli_> ubunty
[00:39] <bazhang> devmedoo, ask an actual question
[00:39] <devmedoo> ok , sorry
[00:40] <quli_> dr_willis: so how do I stop it now?
[00:40] <devmedoo> when i choose ubuntu inside windws and click continue the dvd ejected & windows starts
[00:40] <dr_willis> again...    ctrl-z      then  "bg"    command
[00:41] <bazhang> devmedoo, wubi?
[00:41] <devmedoo> no , dvd
[00:42] <bazhang> !wubi | devmedoo
[00:42] <dr_willis> quli_:  then use the exit   command to close the terminal   NOT the clise button
[00:42] <devmedoo> ubottu , i want ubuntu 13.04 so wubi is no longer supported
[00:43] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, either use a virtual machine or install it
[00:43] <devmedoo> ??
[00:43] <dr_willis> ubuntu inside  windows is wubi... som somthi g is confused here
[00:43] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, if you just want to test Ubuntu, download Virtualbox (it's free) and install Ubuntu inside of it.
[00:44] <dr_willis> unless you ment   alongside..  not inside
[00:44] <devmedoo> no , iwant to use some wifi tools so virtual box i can't use it + ( i have laptop )
[00:44] <bazhang> devmedoo, is this ubuntu or backtrack
[00:44] <Kitt3n> ^
[00:44] <devmedoo> ubuntu
[00:45] <devmedoo> 13.04 from official site
[00:45] <bazhang> devmedoo, inside windows is WUBI
[00:45] <dr_willis> devmedoo: so tell us whats it doing exactly...
[00:45] <Kitt3n> ^
[00:45] <bazhang> Kitt3n, please stop that
[00:46] <vader_> Anybody know how to change Elinks default image viewer from fbi to fbv? fbi does not work in Screen or fbterm :/
[00:46] <arun> need help to mount drives
[00:46] <devmedoo> mmm , when i click install ubuntu from dvd , and choose the wifi , the where " replace windows 7 " " ubuntu inside windows " and the third iforget it
[00:46] <Mudack> Tea is essential, tea is the liquid of the gods, tea is everything, tea is awesome, I love tea
[00:47] <bazhang> !ot | Mudack
[00:47] <lauratika> !ot
[00:47] <dr_willis> devmedoo:  its "alongside"  not "inside"
[00:47] <Mudack> sorry wrong channel
[00:47] <JoshMcCullough> hey whats up
[00:47] <devmedoo> may be....
[00:47] <Kitt3n> Mudack, it hpapens. :)
[00:47] <arun> somebody help me
[00:47] <JoshMcCullough> qq - say i did apt-get install ffmpeg, where would the install location be ?
[00:47] <dr_willis> devmedoo:  so does it actually install!
[00:48] <dr_willis> ?
[00:48] <bazhang> arun, ask a question then
[00:48] <Kitt3n> !ask | arun
[00:48] <devmedoo> nooo , it reboot the laptop and eject dvd
[00:48] <devmedoo> whitout install
[00:48] <dr_willis> JoshMcCullough:  use     'wich ffmpeg'
[00:48] <JoshMcCullough> ty
[00:48] <arun> help me to mount hard drives
[00:48] <dr_willis> which ffmpeg
[00:48] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, how old is the laptop?
[00:48] <bazhang> !fstab | arun
[00:48] <JoshMcCullough> good thing to know, thanks!
[00:49] <devmedoo> hp pavilion g6-1151ex core i5 4gb 500gb
[00:49] <dr_willis> devmedoo:  so it reboots as soon as you select  install alongside windows?
[00:49] <devmedoo> yeb
[00:49] <devmedoo> and click continue
[00:49] <w30> dr_willis, unsettings does the job, thank you very much  Kind Sir
[00:49] <arun> i am new to this, can u tell me detailed info
[00:49] <lauratika> !help | lauratika
[00:50] <bazhang> arun, read the links above
[00:50] <bazhang> lauratika, /msg ubottu
[00:50] <lauratika> gparted | lauratika
[00:50] <dr_willis> w30: you dont need any of those tweak tooks.. its setable on a per app basis if you want to use the shell
[00:50] <w30> gotta log out to apply settings.....
[00:50] <bazhang> lauratika, please dont do that
[00:50] <lauratika> !gparted | lauratika
[00:50] <devmedoo> mr willis?
[00:51] <bazhang> !msgthebot | lauratika
[00:51] <dr_willis> devmedoo: if the installer is crashing. id redownload and verify the iso and remake rhe boot usb
[00:51] <matelot> 12.04 w/ Dual monitor (TwinView) — is it possible to have monitors display 2 workspaces ?
[00:51] <devmedoo> i made the boot from dvd
[00:52] <bazhang> !md5 | devmedoo
[00:52] <dr_willis> matelot:  in unity  nit really
[00:52] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, verify that the iso isn't corrupt, and burn it to another DVD
[00:52] <lauratika> bazhang: just checking the ! thingy...
[00:52] <dr_willis> not really
[00:52] <bazhang> lauratika, check it in /msg
[00:52] <devmedoo> iso to dvd is same bytes so may be the download
[00:53] <semitones> I have a question for ubuntu's crack team of help experts: What could cause ls to stat a file, but stat cannot stat it?
[00:53] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, it's always a good idea to burn stuff to DVDs slowly too, if you're using a program that you can choose the burning speed with.
[00:53] <devmedoo> ubuntu 64-bit 13.04 = "(823,132,160 bytes)"
[00:54] <devmedoo> i made it x6!
[00:54] <Kitt3n> !md5 | devmedoo
[00:55] <clue_h> semitones, when you have no permissions at all lol
[00:55] <clue_h> in the file
[00:55] <devmedoo> kitt3n , i'll see
[00:55] <semitones> clue_h: hmm, but it has rw - - permissions
[00:56] <dr_willis> semitones: id fsck the filesystem  just to verify the fs is sane
[00:57] <semitones> d'oh. ok. how do you do that on restart again.
[00:57] <devmedoo> md5=8D72E2DB7E72E13813731EAB37A14D26
[00:58] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, the ISO is correct, the DVD is faulty
[00:58] <devmedoo> md5=8D72E2DB7E72E13813731EAB37A14D26 in iso , dvd is multi file ( extracted
[00:58] <devmedoo> why?
[00:58] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, what program did you use to burn the DVD?
[00:58] <devmedoo> ashmpoo studio
[00:59] <devmedoo> ashampoo
[01:00] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, the easiest solution would be to use a USB stick instead of DVDs, but try the burner included in Windows to burn the iso to a new DVD
[01:02] <devmedoo> kitt3n?
[01:02] <devmedoo> here?
[01:02] <apleersdf> I have an sd card I'm trying to reformat, it wont allow me to delete any files on it, saying its read only, I will not allow me to unmount disk, therefore unable to format it or do anything else
[01:02] <apleersdf> its pretty much locked up
[01:02] <apleersdf> I even logged in as root, and still can not get it to unmount or anything
[01:02] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, yes, yes, I am here
[01:02] <apleersdf> any ideas on what to do?
[01:03] <dr_willis> apleersdf:  use  dd to zero it out  then repartion it
[01:03] <apleersdf> whats the command?
[01:03] <dr_willis> ive seed sd cards  fail and go  read only
[01:04] <devmedoo> kitt3n
[01:04] <devmedoo> here?
[01:04] <Kitt3n> apleersdf, there might be a locking mechanism on the SD card itself too
[01:04] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, YES, I am here! What is it?
[01:04] <dr_willis> or use  fdisk or gparted to repartion it
[01:04] <apleersdf> Kitt3n: ? like what?
[01:04] <apleersdf> I've used this card before, but now I'm just trying to reformat it
[01:05] <Kitt3n> apleersdf, a little plastic piece that you can move up and down or something.
[01:05] <apleersdf> I already checked that Kitt3n, it was the first thing I checked, and checked it a few time after that making sure that isn't the problem
[01:05] <dr_willis> used it befor does not prove its not got hw issues now..    could be a switch on it also
[01:05] <dr_willis> seen those go bad
[01:07] <dr_willis> plug it in.. watch dmesg output to tell what sd#  the device is.. then try formating it via the cli
[01:07] <devmedoo> kitt3n?
[01:07] <devmedoo> here?
[01:07] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, what is it? -_-
[01:07] <apleersdf> The card is not seen in gparted
[01:08] <devmedoo> i lost connection since i said ashampoo burning studio
[01:08] <apleersdf> it is seened in disk ulity, but now when I plug in the card, it isn't bringing up the folder like normal
[01:08] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, right, well, the easiest solution is to use a USB stick instead of DVDs, but you could try burn a new DVD with Windows' built-in image burner
[01:08] <dr_willis> if the filesystem is currupted that would make sense
[01:08] <dr_willis> if gparted does not see the devix
[01:09] <dr_willis> device.. thats very weird
[01:09] <apleersdf> in disk ulity, its not  mounting when plugged in the system anymore (which is odd) cause it would, when I try to mount it in disk ulity, it sais Deamon is inhibited
[01:09] <apleersdf> it wont let me do anything, gparted doesn't see it
[01:09] <devmedoo> how do you know that the dvd is corrupt?
[01:09] <dr_willis> fallback to the cli to see.what the system is seeing.. not the gui tools
[01:10] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, personal experience, DVDs can easily break ...
[01:10] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, virtually, that is.
[01:10] <devmedoo> mmm , ok , is there thing like virtual dvd or something?
[01:10] <dr_willis> apleersdf:  if the fs is currupted.. it will refuse to mount it
[01:11] <devmedoo> because my usb had win 8 recovery :) :)
[01:11] <dr_willis> apleersdf:  try mounting it by hand. look for error mesages when mounting
[01:12] <louisdk> hi
[01:12] <apleersdf> can't find it
[01:12] <apleersdf> it says
[01:12] <dr_willis> how.are you looking for it!
[01:12] <dr_willis> ?
[01:12] <apleersdf> mount /dev/sde1
[01:13] <apleersdf> "can't find /dev/sde1" when I "mount /dev/sde1"
[01:13] <devmedoo> can i install ubuntu 13.04 with deamon tools??
[01:13] <dr_willis> thats an incomplete mount command. ubless you got a fstab entry for it
[01:13] <dr_willis> !mount
[01:14] <louisdk> If I've Ubuntu 10.04 desktop installed on a machine which is now EOL on the desktop side what'll happen? I assume that I'll not get updates for the desktop packages, but will something be removed from the repo?
[01:14] <dr_willis> devmedoo:  no
[01:14] <devmedoo> is any alternative to usb and burn dvd?
[01:14] <dr_willis> apleersdf:   use    sudo blkid   to see what  devices are.seen
[01:14] <dr_willis> !install
[01:15] <Kitt3n> louisdk, you need to update to a newer version of Ubuntu to get support at all
[01:15] <apleersdf> seems gparted decided to see the device and allow it to format
[01:15] <dr_willis> !netinstall
[01:15] <apleersdf> thanks for the help
[01:15] <devmedoo> is any alternative to usb and burn dvd?
[01:15] <devmedoo> is any alternative to usb and burn dvd?
[01:16] <vnwilman> !pxe
[01:16] <devmedoo> is any alternative to usb and burn dvd?
[01:16] <Kitt3n> !netinstall | devmedoo
[01:17] <arun> somebody help me to mount hard drives
[01:17] <louisdk> kitt3n: Some core packages will still be upgraded I guess? The server edition uses same repos?
[01:17] <Kitt3n> louisdk, EOL means EOL, NO updates.
[01:17] <dr_willis> read the urls the bot  gave devmedoo ?
[01:17] <arun> somebody help me to mount drives
[01:17] <dr_willis> !mount | arun
[01:17] <devmedoo> ok dr_willis
[01:19] <dr_willis> devmedoo:  you did verify the  md5 sum of the iso file? and the burnt dvd?
[01:19] <arun> i can access all of my hard drives, do i need mount anything?
[01:20] <Kitt3n> arun, if you can access all your hard drives, you don't need to mount anything?
[01:20] <dr_willis> they are mounted.. if you canaccess thrm
[01:20] <devmedoo> the burnt dvd is muli-files ( extracted )
[01:20] <dr_willis> devmedoo:  thats a meaningless statement to me...
[01:20] <arun> can u help me on permissions of my hard drive to another user
[01:21] <dr_willis> ta md5sum is a checksum  you compare to a known good value.. to Prove the data is correct
[01:21] <dr_willis> arun and what fs is the hard drive using?
[01:21] <theshark0001> I'm using optware packages.  I would like to setup a prv web gui (password protected) for family to upload photographs or even video.  What programs do you recommend?
[01:21] <Kitt3n> devmedoo, click on the iso file and use the 'Windows Disc Image Burner' and burn the ISO to a /NEW/ DVD and try again
[01:21] <arun> i guess ntfs
[01:21] <arun> how to check that
[01:22] <dr_willis> arun look and verify that....  dont guess.. then if it IS ntfs... check the ntfs-3g docs on making a fstab entry for the device with the  right options..  or just try installing and running the ntfs-config tool ;)
[01:22] <devmedoo> sorry  ( i'm arabian ) , the dvd have files and folders not an iso
[01:22] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[01:23] <dr_willis> devmedoo:  omce you burn the ISO to the dvd.. you would see files on the dvd.. not a single huge iso file.
[01:23] <devmedoo> ya , so i can't see the md5
[01:23] <arun> how to verify that
[01:23] <Psil0cybin> Hey guys can someone help me I recently updated the kernal to 3.2.0-49-generic-pae and im having problems, Now after the update I sometimes cannot boot into the GUI and instead am given a text console, and its only solved with a restart
[01:23] <dr_willis> devmedoo:  you use a TOOL to calculate the md5sum.. its Not a file on the dvd/iso you look at..
[01:24] <dr_willis> !md5 | devmedoo
[01:24] <Psil0cybin> how can I fix this because it only started happening with the new update...and prior to the update it worked perfectly fine
[01:24] <devmedoo> i use checksum
[01:24] <arun> how to verify the file system
[01:24] <dr_willis> arun see what sudo parted -l   says about the device
[01:24] <dr_willis> or 'sudo blkid'
[01:25] <devmedoo> i use checksum calculator
[01:25] <devmedoo> i use checksum calculator
[01:25] <dr_willis> so did the sum match the one at the downloads page?
[01:26] <w30> dr_willis, "sudo apt-get remove indicator-appmenu" get the menus back on the application's own window
[01:26] <Deece> Does anyone know how to get rsyslog to show facilities/levels by name instead of number?
[01:26] <devmedoo> the sum ? , i can't make a group files with same mdf
[01:26] <devmedoo> md5^
[01:26]  * junktext is eating chicken tikka masala
[01:27] <Deece> I've written a format string for ActionFileDefaultTemplate, but i can only find %syslogpriority% %syslogfacility% as template options
[01:27] <devmedoo> ...............
[01:27] <devmedoo> .............
[01:27] <FloodBot1> devmedoo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:27] <w30> dr_willis, It's wonderful  to have a resource like askubuntu.com thanks for the tip
[01:28] <devmedoo> kitt3n or dr_willis ??
[01:29] <dr_willis> devmedoo:  did you even read the url on md5suming ?
[01:29] <dr_willis> w30:  you can disable the global menu on a per app basis.. if you wanted to
[01:30] <devmedoo> ya , i downloaded checksum calculator
[01:30] <devmedoo> ...w8ing
[01:31] <bazhang> !helpme | devmedoo
[01:31] <devmedoo> ok ....
[01:32] <dr_willis> devmedoo:  and did the sum match the sum given in the md5sum listing file from the ubuntu download web site?
[01:32] <bazhang> !hashes | devmedoo
[01:32] <dr_willis> and did the sum of the DVD disk match the sum of the ISO file ??
[01:32] <dr_willis> i alwyas use torrents.  so i rarely get a bad download.
[01:33] <netlar> Hi all
[01:33] <Pandee> netlar: hello
[01:33] <devmedoo> i don't know how to make 2 file to 1 md5 !!!
[01:34] <netlar> Pandee: Were you the one helping me yesterday?
[01:34] <dr_willis> devmedoo:  i have no idea what you mean by that...
[01:34] <dr_willis> you calcullate the sum on file 1.. look at it.. then compare it to the sum listed in the file..
[01:34] <Pandee> netlar: no i don't believe so
[01:35] <devmedoo> i mean that the program give my one md5 for the file , so each file in dvd have md5
[01:35] <dr_willis> I dont use that app.. so no idea of its features.
[01:35] <dr_willis> you want to sum the whatever.iso file.. dont mount it.
[01:35] <bazhang> devmedoo, you dont extract the iso.
[01:36] <netlar> Should of remembered his handle
[01:36] <bazhang> devmedoo, you burn the iso to a usb stick or dvd, not extract
[01:36] <dr_willis> windows apps treating .iso files as an archive... always lovely.. when its totally wrong.
[01:37] <Random833> i tihnk with vista and later you can right click to burn properly
[01:37] <dr_willis> i just have some windows app that puts  'md5sum' on the context meni i recall.
[01:38] <dr_willis> i always ise infrarecorder to burn the isos   but not used that in ages.
[01:38] <devmedoo_> i use checksum
[01:38] <devmedoo_> the iso is corrrect md5
[01:38] <dr_willis> many of the isu burning apps can also calculate the md5sum
[01:38] <devmedoo_> the dvd and iso is same bytes
[01:38] <dr_willis> same bytes does NOT mean its the same sum.
[01:38] <bazhang> devmedoo_, thats not the problem. the problem is you extracted the files from the iso
[01:39] <devmedoo_> bazhang : i didn't , i made dvd by iso with ashampoo burning studio
[01:39] <bazhang> devmedoo_, what software did you use to burn to dvd
[01:39] <dr_willis> reburn using some nice simple tool like infrarecorder, or imgburn , or some other known al.
[01:39] <dr_willis> app.
[01:40] <dr_willis> !burn
[01:40] <devmedoo_> infrarecorder  mmmmm , i'll try
[01:40] <bazhang> devmedoo_, you md5 the iso BEFORE you burn to dvd
[01:40] <devmedoo_> the md5 = 8D72E2DB7E72E13813731EAB37A14D26
[01:40] <bazhang> devmedoo_, not the extracted files , but the iso
[01:41] <vader_>  /disconnect
[01:42] <devmedoo_> i didn't understand you
[01:43] <dr_willis> i think infrarecorder has a 'md5sum' item when you select an iso.. you can caompare to the one given in the file  at the url mentioned above
[01:44] <devmedoo_> dr_willis i already checked and it's correct!!!
[01:45] <devmedoo_> ..................................
[01:45] <bazhang> devmedoo_, stop that
[01:45] <dr_willis> devmedoo_:   then use infrarecorder to burn it to dvd at the slowest speed you can and have it verify the burn
[01:46] <devmedoo_> ok
[01:47] <devmedoo_> http://sourceforge.net/projects/infrarecorder/?
[01:47] <devmedoo_> ??
[01:47] <devmedoo_> http://sourceforge.net/projects/infrarecorder/
[01:49] <devmedoo_> is there any prog make virtual dvd?
[01:49] <Ycarene> Anybody use ushare?
[01:49] <dr_willis> why do you even think you need a virtual dvd devmedoo_ ?
[01:50] <dr_willis> ushare worked well for me the little i used it Ycarene
[01:53] <subcool> whats the attribute to view ls -l  with the files in gigs or megs
[01:53] <devmedoo_> dr_willis : it's 4 am here in egypt :) , how can i buy a blank dvd hhhhhh ^_^
[01:53] <DWSR> subcool: -h
[01:53] <subcool> thanks
[01:54] <dr_willis> devmedoo_:  not my problem..  i always use usb flash drives.
[01:54] <DWSR> anyone know how to use sshfs to mount a folder so that it is writable by all users on the system, but the permissions are translated to a single user on the remote side?
[01:54] <devmedoo_> dr_willis : i didn't say that is your problem ....
[01:56] <taek> Hi folks, I seem to have an issue that, when my system boots up, eth0 doesn't connect until a user is logged in, is there away to make it connect at boot?
[01:56] <taek> Distro 12.04
[01:56] <varunendra> devmedoo_, what is it that you want.
[01:56] <devmedoo_> just testing
[01:57] <dr_willis> taek:  eth0 is a wired or wireless connection?
[01:57] <taek> Wired.
[01:57] <dr_willis> thats.. very weird taek ..
[01:57] <taek> Tell me about it, I have OwnCloud running and I can't connect until after a user is logged in
[01:57] <dr_willis_> hi , test test.... , i'm not mr_willis
[01:57] <dr_willis> taek:  are you using encrypted homes? or encrypted /
[01:58] <taek> Btw, this system was distro-upgraded from 10.4.4
[01:58] <taek> I don't believe so.
[01:58] <taek> I don't recall setting it up in that manner initially.
[01:58] <dr_willis> taek:  as a dirty 'trick' you could try restarting the networking, or using  'ifup eth0' in /etc/rc.local
[01:59] <dr_willis> its possible networking is trying to come up and failing for some reason, then the user login some how retriggers it to try again
[01:59] <dr_willis> im not sure what logs would even be logging that.
[02:00] <taek> well I just added the ifup eth0
[02:00] <taek> abouve Exit 0
[02:00] <jrib> taek: if you log in at virtual console, does your network become "fixed"?  Also, I would urge you to actually check up on the encryption.  Often times in this channel, "believing" and "recalling" lead troubleshooters down the wrong path ;)
[02:00] <dr_willis_> taek: your problem is so miss , get a support from one other than me....
[02:00] <dr_willis> might want to do a ifdown eth0   ; sleep 20 ;  ifup eth0   or similer.
[02:00] <taek> Virtual Console?
[02:00] <taek> I dunno, I use Desktop.
[02:01] <dr_willis> console = alt-ctrl-f1 through f6
[02:01] <jrib> taek: yes, this is for troubleshooting purposes.  I'm asking you to try that.
[02:01] <DWSR> (comparatively speaking)
[02:01] <DWSR> anyone know how to use sshfs to mount a folder so that it is writable by all users on the system, but the permissions are translated to a single user on the remote side?
[02:02] <dr_willis_> jrib: don't make yourself like a pro ....
[02:02] <dr_willis> DWSR:  im thinking that would be a neat trick. :) and a possible security nightmare...     since sshfs uses the fuse system.. the fusermount command may have options to allow that.
[02:02] <taek> hmm should I logout of unity?
[02:03] <jrib> taek: you should place your system in its "broken" state.  Whatever that means (probably reboot).  And then log in through a virtual console.
[02:03] <jrib> dr_willis: :x
[02:03] <taek> hmm okay
[02:03] <taek> i'll be back then
[02:04] <jrib> taek: if your system remains "broken" after log in at virtual console, check if eth0 is up
[02:04] <taek> will do
[02:04] <dr_willis> if its just opencloud failing to startup.. having an encvrypted home could be   a potential issue..
[02:04] <taek> brb
[02:04] <jrib> taek: I'm using "broken" to mean "can't connect to opencloud"
[02:04] <dr_willis_> to hell
[02:04] <dr_willis> wow.. trolls using the  freenode web chat to spam us.. how lovely.
[02:04] <azazel91> is there a irc that alerts member logins
[02:04] <jrib> dr_willis_: right, if I had to bet I would bet on your initial guess about encrypted homes
[02:05] <dr_willis_> hhhhh , i like joking hhhh
[02:05] <mr_willis> ya willis my too
[02:06] <dr_willis> guess you could set up opencloud to share some unencrypted filesystem as a test also. ;) that way you can verifyu it is working.
[02:07] <cuddylier> Anyone know how to see the redirects I have on the program 'redir'?
[02:07] <^jirb> ok , i'll do it tommorw
[02:08] <taek> screens to be working with the rc.local
[02:08] <taek> seems*
[02:09] <taek> using ptty1 right now
[02:09] <mr_willis> ok good
[02:09] <dr_willis> its possible openmcloud is trying to start befor networking is started. or its waiting for networking to start..
[02:09] <taek> Owncloud*
[02:10] <taek> Owncloud runs in apache2.
[02:10] <dr_willis> im lazy and just use dropbox and box.net and ubuntu one ;)
[02:10] <mr_willis> ok good you know
[02:10] <mr_willis_> say welcome to ddos
[02:10] <^jirb> say welcome to ddos
[02:10] <mr_willis> say welcome to ddos
[02:10] <dr_willis_> say welcome to ddos
[02:10] <dr_willis> lame trolls are lame.
[02:11] <IdleOne> Please get you clones out
[02:11] <bazhang> there's only ONE Dr.
[02:11] <taek> I have a VPS - so I am acoustom to some of the workings. But in a server enviornment eth0 just works without login.
[02:11] <C130RG> /server irc.byroe.net
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> That's the truth
[02:11] <dr_willis> 'one ban to ban them alll!'  ;P
[02:12] <HACKED> NO IDLEONE
[02:12] <mr_willis_> NO IDLEONE
[02:12] <^jirb> NO IDLEONE
[02:12] <dr_willis_> NO IDLEONE
[02:12] <taek> Sweet, Thanks for the quick fix mr_willis
[02:12] <dr_willis> that seems weird that the vps is acting that way.
[02:12] <taek> Now I can turn this weak/bad boy headless
[02:12] <dr_willis_> hhhh , no thanks for hacks
[02:12] <taek> This isn't a VPS, this is a full blown desktop
[02:12] <dr_willis> or is this not a VPS?
[02:12] <taek> I am just stating, I have a VPS without issues
[02:13] <dr_willis> thatw even weirder then
[02:13] <dr_willis_> it's a piece of shit
[02:13] <taek> Except..
[02:13] <taek> VPS can't update anylonger.
[02:13] <taek> But that will be fixed.
[02:13] <^jirb> really
[02:13] <taek> Distro isn't supported any longer, so an upgrade will be in order for sat or sun.
[02:13] <savagejen> When I run dmesg, it's filled with errors about unknown keycode e03e. They seem to be happening multiple times per second. Not sure what the best course of action is. One blog post I read said I should map the keycode to null.
[02:14] <taek> Yeah, Ubuntu 10.0.4.4 LTS has been phased out.
[02:14] <dr_willis> savagejen:  or edit  /etc/sysconf.cfg (i think) to not be as verbose in its logging. :)
[02:14] <taek> Or figure out what the key is that is causing it, and remap it
[02:14] <savagejen> dr_willis, I'm  less concerned about the logging and more concerned about the cause :)
[02:15] <dr_willis> ive had dmesg get flooded by  broken hardware befor. (a web cam in my case)
[02:15] <dr_willis> not seen a keyvode flood..
[02:15] <savagejen> I don't think it's a key, but I am running on a touch screen laptop, and I have to wonder if it's related to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1099289
[02:15] <dr_willis> I bet its that pesky 'anykey' that no one can ever find!
[02:16] <taek> Well, it seems to me that either the key got mapped to Null, the keyboard selected setting is incorrect, or the keyboard is just broken.
[02:16] <savagejen> ubottu, oh, is the problem confirmed to be my touch screen already?
[02:16] <savagejen> Keyboard appears to fully function. This is a brand new Lenovo Yoga.
[02:17] <taek> Any other input device besides screen and keyboard?
[02:17]  * dr_willis read that as a 'Yoda' and envisioned a Funny green laptop
[02:17] <savagejen> I am using a usb wifi nic
[02:17] <Hacked2> Here Is The Checkout Baby!!
[02:17] <savagejen> I disabled the onboard nic in the bios
[02:17] <savagejen> and there's a touch pad mouse
[02:17] <taek> Is the trouch screen doing anything it shouldn't?
[02:18] <savagejen> taek there's the known bug 1099289
[02:18] <dr_willis> are you even using the touchscreen?
[02:18] <savagejen> I was!
[02:18] <cuddylier> Anyone know how to list the redirects I have made using the program 'redir'?
[02:18] <savagejen> but it's flaky
[02:18] <dr_willis> ;)  you touched it in  a bad way and it got mad.
[02:18] <taek> I wasn't asking about the bug, I was asking about your usage of the touch screen.
[02:18] <savagejen> so if I transition the laptop into a tablet to read kindle books, I noticed sometimes the touch screen doesn't respond when I want to turn the page
[02:19] <dr_willis> cuddylier:  what do you mean by 'redirects'  ?
[02:19] <savagejen> so it's annoying that Ii have to turn it over to press the mouse instead
[02:19] <taek> Then maybe you have prior said mentionted bug.
[02:19] <savagejen> yes, I have experienced that bug
[02:19] <cuddylier> dr_willis It's a program which means you can redirect traffic from an IP to another IP on another server box
[02:19] <savagejen> but I am unsure it's related to the message in dmesg
[02:19] <cuddylier> apt-get install redir
[02:20] <boethiah> hello there. is there a developers channle?
[02:20] <cuddylier> But I can't find much documentation on it, apart from obviously typing 'redir' in SSH which doesn't help much
[02:20] <dr_willis> cuddylier:  sounds like a ssh tunnle. ;) but i rarely need such things...   at leat not lately
[02:20] <cuddylier> Yeah, it's a tunneling thing
[02:20] <taek> Does the touch screen work properly in "normal laptop" setup vrs "tablet" setup ?
[02:20] <dr_willis> redir --help  ? ;)
[02:20] <savagejen> taek, most of the time
[02:20] <dr_willis> man redir  ?
[02:21] <taek> I am wondering if there's an issue with ubuntu not reading the switch state of the screen
[02:21] <savagejen> taek, there's currently no recognition by the laptop of what position the screen is in, which is something I hope to be able to find a way to configure at some point
[02:21] <dr_willis> im so used to reading books on my kindle paperwhite.. reading them on a full laptop  would seem  weird.
[02:21] <savagejen> er, Ubuntu doesn't seem to read the accelerometer I think
[02:21] <cuddylier> dr_willis: http://pastebin.com/aXqkjer2
[02:21] <taek> That might be where you're getting an the errors from?.
[02:22] <savagejen> oh, interesting
[02:22] <taek> the laptop might be sending it as a keypress or some such.
[02:22] <taek> I don't know personally, but just throwing  thoughts out.
[02:23] <savagejen> I guess, with the ubuntu tablet coming out, I was just hoping ubuntu would have full support of the touch screen interfaces in all of these fancy new ultrabooks
[02:23] <savagejen> maybe with a bit of configuration
[02:23] <taek> I figured they would of solved that issue with the invention of Unity.
[02:23] <taek> But different hardwares do things differently
[02:23] <savagejen> yeah
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> taek, Since you just guessing what about gobl;ins.
[02:24] <savagejen> although it looks like a bunch of us Ubuntu users have Lenovo Yogas now
[02:24] <taek> Goblins are always outside my window!! I am affraind to go out there!
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> taek, Somehow I believe that.
[02:24] <dr_willis> http://linux.die.net/man/1/redir       ii would think it may not have such options, just logging options, since it seems to be designed to work as a service
[02:24] <taek> :D
[02:25] <taek> anyhow, let me get back into desktop mode and out of ptty1
[02:25] <savagejen> just use netcat :D
[02:25] <savagejen> pipe netcat to netcat
[02:25] <cuddylier> dr_willis yeah, just wonder how I'm meant to remove redirects or even see a list lol
[02:26] <dr_willis> cuddylier:  ;)   it was hard even finding a google hit for docs.. the term 'redir' is a  bit vague
[02:26] <cuddylier> Yeah lol
[02:26] <cuddylier> Such a good program and exactly what I needed but little docs :(
[02:26] <dr_willis> 'use the wource luke!' ;)
[02:26] <dr_willis> source
[02:26] <taek> That was weird.
[02:27] <taek> I got redirected to another channel.
[02:27] <dr_willis> Hmm.. i really really have to wonder how durable that Lenovo Yoga Hinge that does all the swiveling is....
[02:27] <Taek> Hopefully not made from plastic
[02:28] <dr_willis> ive had to many normal laptop hinges break over the years..
[02:28] <Wulframn> I played with a display model and it was pretty durable. It stood up to being a display model, after all. =P
[02:28] <Taek> I must say, I really dislike Unity.
[02:28] <Taek> :-(
[02:28] <dr_willis> at least its not an emachine brand. ;)
[02:28] <dr_willis> Unity works well for me.
[02:28] <Taek> Have to doo too much to get to what you want
[02:29] <Wulframn> I dislike Unity, too. I haven't used it on a touchscreen, though, so I can't give it a fair shake.
[02:29] <dr_willis> then again i ju,p around so many differnt OS's and desktops on a weekly basis  (or daily basis) it dosent matter what desktop im using
[02:29] <Taek> Well, I attempted to stay with Unbutu 10.04.4 as long as I can
[02:29] <Taek> They phased it out.
[02:30] <Taek> There's MATE but.. not developed enough for my usage.
[02:30] <dr_willis> the latest gnome-shell has an offical gnome-2 type mode i belive.. ive not tried it.
[02:30] <Wulframn> I'm using xfce
[02:30] <dr_willis> I can see mate and cinnimon vananishing in the near future
[02:30] <Taek> Problem with MATE is.. There don't have enough devs for how many distros they are working on
[02:31] <dr_willis> manpower is always the  limiting factor these days it seems
[02:32] <Taek> Well, they have maybe one dedicated dev per OS/Distro, and a few floaters..
[02:32] <Taek> As awesome as it would be for them to stay up todate with the distros changes, they arn't able to.
[02:32] <dr_willis> its really amazing how few devs are responsible for some of the major apps, and  tools out there.
[02:33] <Taek> hmm, I wonder if I can install irssi-scripts
[02:33] <dr_willis> most of the webcam drivers i hear are done by like a small group of people. 2-3?    with one guy doing most of them
[02:33] <Taek> and use them while irssi is running.
[02:33] <dr_willis> Ive swithed over to weechat in stead of irssi these days. ;)
[02:33] <qin> Taek: You can just download them to #/.irssi
[02:34] <Taek> ~/.irssi...
[02:34] <qin> yup
[02:34] <qin> to lazy to shift
[02:34] <Taek> hahaha
[02:35] <dr_willis> bbl.
[02:35] <Taek> Nice
[02:35] <Taek> nicklist screen
[02:35] <Taek> works
[02:35] <Taek> :D
[02:35] <Taek> too used to mirc.
[02:36] <qin> Taek: how it looks like with 15 hundreds of bots in channel?
[02:36] <Taek> Now to get ubuntu running on my linksys router!
[02:36] <Taek> Looks fine.
[02:37] <qin> Taek: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Linksys
[02:37] <Taek> It amazes me how developers can cram a linux distro onto a 8MB flash drive with everything they need to run the router.
[02:37] <Taek> qin I already have DD-WRT on my linksys
[02:38] <gabash> #Beginner
[02:38] <Taek> but it's foobar! I may have to reflash it
[02:38] <qin> Taek: why ubuntu would be better?
[02:38] <Taek> Why Not, Ubuntu server, ubuntu Desktop, Ubuntu Router, Ubuntu Laptop, Ubuntu cellphone, ubuntu netbook, ubuntu tablet
[02:38] <qin> gabash: You do not need # here..
[02:38] <Taek> Ubuntu kids?!
[02:39] <qin> Taek: Yeah, pity that ubuntu do not cook and stuff.
[02:39] <Taek> get a smart programmer and engineering tech to build a system of robots ran on ubuntu.. sure you could
[02:40] <Taek> I mean, I have a friend who's house is basically ran on ubuntu
[02:40] <Taek> controls the light, they reprogrammed their fridge. alarm system, garage.
[02:40] <Taek> out door water sprinkler system
[02:41] <Taek> Also programmed with android/iOS to remote control it
[02:41] <Taek> Pretty nifty stuff.
[02:42] <Taek> Too bad he wouldn't wouldn't release the src !
[02:42] <nimdAHK_> anyone here use teamviewer?
[02:42] <Taek> I use.
[02:42] <nimdAHK_> my "setup offline access" option is missing
[02:42] <Taek> What good is using teamviewer in offline access mode?
[02:42] <nimdAHK_> s/offline/unattended
[02:43] <nimdAHK_> it's supposed to be under "connection"
[02:43] <soni1877> how to get netgear g54 wireless adapter working on ubuntu 64bit?
[02:43] <nimdAHK_> but the option is just not present, Taek
[02:43] <Taek> which version?
[02:43] <nimdAHK_> 8
[02:44] <Taek> Installed or running as "run" mode?
[02:44] <soni1877> it is connecting properly but internet speed drops to almost zero frequently
[02:44] <nimdAHK_> installed
[02:44] <nimdAHK_> with the daemon on
[02:44] <Taek> let me install and atake a look
[02:44] <Taek> I am normally using windows
[02:45] <nimdAHK_> Taek: http://i.imgur.com/2FHVn7r.png
[02:46] <nimdAHK_> (yes, I refreshed the password...)
[02:46] <varunendra> soni1877, please show us pastebin link of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net"
[02:46] <dr_willis> soni1877:  check what chipset and module its using and check askubuntu.com  there may be some known isdues
[02:48] <soni1877> http://pastebin.com/KbWFw2GP
[02:49] <Taek> Extras -> Options -> Advance -> Advance Networking Settings (TeamViewer server) Configure
[02:49] <Taek> should do the trick for you
[02:50] <nimdAHK_> so I can't add it to my account?
[02:50] <nimdAHK_> like I did with all my other machines?
[02:50] <Taek> I assume after you cofigure it, you should beable to do so
[02:51] <Taek> also note, since TeamViewer for (LOinux) runs in Wine - It might not actually have the ability to do it.
[02:52] <Taek> Linux*
[02:52] <nimdAHK_> Yeah I noticed the bundled wine
[02:53] <nimdAHK_> it's just interesting that the option is completely removed without a mention on the internet
[02:54] <Taek> that's what happens when a big company like teamviewer decide to go the lazy route and not actually make a linux specific software
[02:54] <Taek> instead just use windows emulation
[02:55] <soni1877> varunendra: http://pastebin.com/KbWFw2GP
[02:55] <Taek> Honestly I am happy TeamViewer even works on linux through wine, the horrors you have to go through to get alot apps to run on it period is bad enough.
[02:56] <Psil0cybin> Hey guys can someone help me I recently updated my computure through the update manager, and now when i try and boot into ubuntu i sometimes get a blackscreen or i get booted into the text only console, and cannot access the GUI. This only started happening after the update....and i have to restarted 3 or 5 times to get into the GUI
[02:56] <Psil0cybin> how can i diagnose and fix this error
[02:56] <Psil0cybin> or do i keep using the older kernal?
[02:56] <Taek> Just my guess, but have you updated the video driver?
[02:57] <Psil0cybin> I might have i updated everything it wanted to update
[02:57] <Psil0cybin> Cederview i think is the driver that got updated
[02:57] <Psil0cybin> but i tried reinstalling it, it worked for a few boots and now its doing it again
[02:57] <Taek> Never heard of cederview.
[02:57] <Psil0cybin> its for an acer aspire one
[02:58] <Psil0cybin> one second let me go to the package manager
[02:58] <Psil0cybin> and tell u exatly
[02:58] <Taek> Intel Atom Processor?
[02:58] <Psil0cybin> yes
[02:58] <Taek> D250 ?
[02:58] <Psil0cybin> D270-1628
[02:58] <Psil0Cybin> cedarview-drm
[02:59] <Psil0Cybin> i think was the package
[02:59] <Taek> If I remember correctly, in my Acer Aspire One (D250) it used an Intel based chipset for the video
[02:59] <varunendra> soni1877, sorry, I missed that it was a usb device. We instead need to see "lsusb" (pastebin link again). Even better maybe if you post a detailed report following this post : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[02:59] <Psil0Cybin> To be honest i am not really sure :P I just know usually i allow every update, and nothing goes wrong, I am kinda new to Ubuntu thats why i want to learn how to diagnose it
[02:59] <Psil0Cybin> but you think its the driver?
[03:00] <Taek> It's a possiblity
[03:00] <Taek> when you get access to the gui again, try checking with the Additionhal Drivers
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> Psil0Cybin, Is it nvidia and did you load it from them?
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> its Intel i belive wilee-nilee and im in the GUI now
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> thats how i got in to talk to you guys
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> Yea
[03:00] <Taek> I am pretty sure it's an intel based video chipset
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> I went to propietary drivers
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> i have both selected
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> drm driver for Intel GMA500
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> and Intel Cedarview graphics driver
[03:01] <Taek> Only one should be activated
[03:01] <Taek> Try the GMA500 Driver
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> so take off Intel Cedarview Graphical Driver
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> like remove it
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[03:01] <Taek> select the GMA500 Driver and click activate
[03:01] <Taek> it will deactivate the other
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> they are both activated
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> i only see
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> remove for both
[03:02] <Taek> then deselect the ceder one
[03:02] <Taek> err Select the ceder driver and click deactivate
[03:02] <Taek> and then restart the laptop, it should work fine after
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> Psil0Cybin, might be relevant. http://askubuntu.com/questions/290515/how-to-install-intel-cedarview-drivers-on-ubuntu-12-10-or-13-04
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> okay :) thanks will try it now
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> Okay im going to book mark that site too :) incase that doesnt work
[03:02] <Taek> :D
[03:03] <Psil0Cybin> let me try it and ill let you guys know
[03:03] <Rahoul> Hi, what is the proper syntax to add a whole subnet to a table using iproute? ip rule add 192.168.1.0/24 does not seem to work :)
[03:03] <Psil0Cybin> i love this IRC channel :) the sexyest thing on the net
[03:03] <Taek> :D
[03:03] <Taek> used to use my acer aspire one for network drive bys
[03:03] <Taek> :D
[03:04] <Psil0Cybin> hahaah thats what this one is for
[03:04] <Psil0Cybin> i just love how small it is
[03:04] <Taek> Then my wife got ahold of it and burnt it out!
[03:05] <Taek> wonder why byobu reports my CPU as 2x0.7GHz at some points.
[03:07]  * Taek afk mode
[03:08] <Rahoul> hello?
[03:08] <Rahoul> :)
[03:09] <Psil0Cybin> Okay Taek when i deactivated the Intel Cedarview graphix it deactivated everything so I am reactivating the drm driver for the Intel GMA500
[03:16] <WACOMalt> Anyone in here familliar with qemu? I am getting terrible speeds on my windows guest and I assume it's due to the network settings in qemu. I havent changed anything fromt he default and although I get about 40Mbps upload on linux I get about 70Kbps on the windows guest
[03:17] <Taek> Why use qemu?
[03:17] <WACOMalt> because the server is headless
[03:17] <Taek> Not that it really matters in your choice, jut curious.
[03:17] <WACOMalt> and I was told it was the fastest
[03:17] <deezed> hey guys! I cant connect to a wpa wireless connection if there is any special caracther here, like é or ó. Do you know what can I do?
[03:17] <Taek> All my experiences with qemu have been horrible
[03:17] <WACOMalt> the server is headless and qemu gives you a vnc server directly to control the VM with
[03:17] <WACOMalt> it runs great aside from the network speed issue
[03:18] <Taek> is it running on a dedicated server?
[03:19] <Taek> FYI all my experiences with qemu have been on windows afaik.
[03:21] <deezed>  hey everyone, I'm trying to connect here to a wireless wpa2 connection which the password has special characters like "é" but I'm not allowed to connect,. Do you know what can I do?
[03:21] <Taek> Change the wifi password?
[03:22] <deezed> I cant, its from my girlfriend's house, and her mate wont like it
[03:22] <nimdAHK> sounds like you and the router are using different encodings
[03:23] <Taek> ^
[03:23] <deezed> nimdAHK: maybe...do you know how can I figure it out?
[03:23] <Taek> First off, figure out what enconding you're using?
[03:23] <Taek> I believe most routers use UTF-8 .
[03:23] <nimdAHK> try a different network manager too
[03:24] <Taek> Then again I am in U.S. so everything here is simplified.
[03:24] <deezed> nimdAHK: like which one?
[03:24] <nimdAHK> gotta catch 'em all?
[03:24] <deezed> Taek: true
[03:24] <nimdAHK> wicd maybe
[03:24] <deezed> nimdAHK: ok, I'll try!
[03:24] <deezed> nimdAHK: thanks
[03:24] <nimdAHK> yw, good luck!
[03:25] <ristra> hi, i am trying to get my wifi to work on 12.04
[03:25] <Taek> Network Adapter Chipset?
[03:25] <usr13> ristra: So what is the problem?
[03:25] <ristra> at some point, I think I messed up my /etc/network/interfaces file
[03:25] <Taek> Pastebin?
[03:25] <ristra> it doesn't have a wlan on it
[03:25] <ristra> okie, hold on, i ll pastebin it
[03:26] <usr13> ristra: iwconfig  #What does that say?
[03:26] <Taek> No wLan? add it?.
[03:26] <ristra> usr13 it only list eth0 and lo
[03:27] <Taek> Is it a PCI(e) or USB Adapter ristra
[03:27] <usr13> What wifi device do you have?  ( lspci )
[03:27] <ristra> Taek, yeap that is the idea but since I am very new (i cant stress the @very@ enough!) I was wondering if it add it on a specific position or something
[03:27] <Taek> What brand is it ristra ?
[03:27] <poz> so i have installed the lastest version of backports from here: http://drvbp1.linux-foundation.org/~mcgrof/rel-html/backports/
[03:27] <ristra> toshiba satellite c855
[03:27] <usr13> ristra: Wait, what does iwconfig say?   iwconfig | pastebinit    #Show us URL
[03:28] <poz> and now my usb wireless chip wont work
[03:28] <varunendra> ristra, pastebin the report generated by wireless_script : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[03:28] <ristra> http://pastebin.com/Fk1qLZzK here is my interfaces files
[03:28] <poz> anyone have any ideas
[03:28] <varunendra> that script will show almost everything (secure) wifi related. Everyone.
[03:28] <poz> it is like ubuntu doesnt even see the usb wireless dongle
[03:29] <varunendra> poz, do you have a wired connection now?
[03:29] <kmyst> anybody able to help with some routing issues? trying to route three networks and running into an issue where i can only ping some things
[03:29] <poz> i am using my laptops built in wireless card
[03:30] <poz> the usb wireless card was working before i installed the backports
[03:30] <poz> it is like the driver or somthing was over written and now it wont detect that it is plugged in
[03:30] <ristra> http://pastebin.com/NTfLdeFt  has my interfaces file and the report from iwconfig
[03:30] <varunendra> poz, we need to see "lsusb" and "nm-tool" output.
[03:31] <poz> okay, one sec
[03:31] <ristra> first question i guess is : can i just add wlan  to interfaces file?
[03:31] <usr13> ristra: lspci | pastebinit  #send url
[03:31] <Taek> Hopefully LSUSB sees it and can give us a chipset O.o
[03:32] <ristra> usr13 here it is http://pastebin.com/XKiDSgm1
[03:32] <ristra> the network controller is there
[03:32] <poz> varunendra, here are the results of both commends: http://pastebin.com/1d97dT31
[03:33] <Taek> Two wifi adapters
[03:33] <Taek> One Atheros and another Realtek
[03:33] <poz> this seems to be the usb wireless dongle Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8192CU 802.11n WLAN Adapte
[03:33] <Taek> Need to run a special driver for it
[03:34] <Taek> well I consider it special;
[03:34] <Taek> I forgot what it was called, but you need to run the bcwrapper?
[03:34] <Taek> I think that's it
[03:34] <soni1877> http://pastebin.com/e0xdrMM4
[03:34] <Taek> oh wait, that's for broadcom
[03:34] <soni1877> varunendra: http://pastebin.com/e0xdrMM4
[03:35] <varunendra> poz, you are using WPA/WPA2 mixed mode in the router. Not always a problem but more than often it is. Try changing it to pure WPA2-PSK (AES) only. No TKIP, no mixed mode.
[03:35] <usr13> ristra: 12.04?  Fully updated?
[03:36] <ristra> usr13: it was a fresh install until I started trying to fix this issue
[03:36] <ristra> I tried several different solutions I found online
[03:36] <usr13> ristra: 12.04 Desktop?  Is it fully updated?
[03:36] <poz> varunendra, this problem is independent of the router
[03:36] <ristra> and I just run the updater so yet, fully updated
[03:36] <poz> i can not get ubuntu to detect my usb wireless card
[03:36] <ristra> 280+  updated modules
[03:36] <usr13> ristra: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:37] <ristra> ok, i ll run that, hold on
[03:37] <ristra> and thanks by the way :)
[03:38] <ristra> all is upgraded
[03:38] <deezed> hey guys I'm trying to connect to my girlfriend's wireless network, but I can't! First I thought it was because the password had special characters, but its not. And the funniest part is that windows can connect!!!
[03:38] <varunendra> soni1877, try - "sudo modprobe -rfv rtl8192cu" ..... then ......... "sudo modprobe -v rtl8192cu swenc=Y" . See if it improves the connectivity.
[03:38] <deezed> do you know what can I do?
[03:39] <Taek> deezed: what wireless encryption mode is it running in?.
[03:39] <ristra> is it ok to change my /etc/network/interfaces to this: http://pastebin.com/uisvwSV1   ?
[03:39] <deezed> Taek: wpa2
[03:39] <varunendra> poz, for a detailed report : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[03:40] <Taek> wpa2?
[03:40] <deezed> Taek: yes
[03:42] <usr13> ristra: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2005981
[03:42] <deezed> Taek: is there maybe any driver I could install?
[03:42] <Taek> deezed: does it return any errors? or just bad password?
[03:43] <deezed> Taek: just connection failed
[03:44] <usr13> deezed: iwlist <wifi-name-here> -scan
[03:45] <Taek> deezed: I don't see why you would have an issue honestly
[03:45] <ristra_> i broke it but I managed to get back hurra
[03:45] <deezed> Taek: neither do I!!! thats the point. I cant figure it out
[03:46] <usr13> deezed: scratch the -   just iwlist wifi-device-name scan
[03:46] <Taek> shouldn't it be iwlist wifi-ssid scan?
[03:47] <usr13> deezed: first do   iwconfig   and tell us what it says.
[03:47] <deezed> usr13: ok, so now what do I do?
[03:47] <deezed> the access point is not-associated
[03:47] <usr13> deezed: Open a terminal and type   iwconfig   and hit enter
[03:47] <Moonlightning> I think I broke my kernel. I have a half-installed kernel package and /boot is too full to do anything.
[03:48] <poz> here is the results of the wireless script: http://pastebin.com/WYbu5xMe
[03:48] <deezed> usr13: I did and dont know if there is something uncommon
[03:48] <Moonlightning> I'm...pretty sure I don't need all these kernels. xP Is there something I can run to autoremove no longer needed kernel packages?
[03:48] <poz> can some one help me find out what happend to wlan1?
[03:48] <usr13> deezed: What is the essid of your AP?
[03:48] <deezed> usr13: "casa do caralho"
[03:49] <poz> it use to be my usb wireless dongle, but after I installed backports from here http://drvbp1.linux-foundation.org/~mcgrof/rel-html/backports/ it stoped working
[03:49] <usr13> deezed: iwconfig wlan0 essid "casa do caralho"
[03:49] <usr13> deezed: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "casa do caralho"
[03:50] <deezed> usr13: ok
[03:50] <deezed> now what?
[03:51] <deezed> does anyone know what can I do next to access this wireless here?
[03:52] <ristra_> http://pastebin.com/iiLH46bs  how do I know which wlan to add?  it is not recognizing wlan0
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> Moonlightning, You have a boot partition?
[03:53] <Moonlightning> Yes?
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> Moonlightning, Ah generally not needed, however the ubuntu-tweak app has a janitor app that will clean up the extra kernels and other stuff.
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> Moonlightning, Ubuntu tweak is in a PPA.
[03:55] <Taek> Old kernels should be removable with apt-get auto-remove
[03:55] <Taek> apt-get autoremove
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> Not rue but can be done from the cli
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> true*
[03:55] <Moonlightning> I did autoremove
[03:55] <Moonlightning> It didn't remove any of the kernels :(
[03:56] <Taek> You can try with Ubuntu Tweak as wilee-nilee suggested.
[03:56] <Moonlightning> I only have a CLI though
[03:56] <wilee-nilee> Moonlightning, If you want a nice gui use the tweak, can be done from the terminal or synaptic as well.
[03:57] <wilee-nilee> the tweak gets the configs as well, nice little app really
[03:57] <Moonlightning> What's the name of the package?
[03:57] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu tweak it is in a ppa
[03:58] <wilee-nilee> http://ubuntu-tweak.com/ Or you can download the deb
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> here is the ppa be sure to load the key use the read about installing to get the key with the load.
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> https://launchpad.net/~tualatrix/+archive/ppa
[03:59] <Moonlightning> Agh
[03:59] <Moonlightning> Can't I just do it with apt-get? >.<
[03:59] <Taek> Manually delete it okay :D
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> Moonlightning, After loading the resorce yes, it is not in the ubuntu repos
[04:00] <Moonlightning> After what?
[04:00] <poz> real simple question, say i downloaded a driver and there is a install.sh file... how do i use this to install the driver?
[04:00] <Taek> you add the ppa
[04:00] <Moonlightning> Taek: yeah, looks like I"m gonna be doing that
[04:00] <Taek> poz sudo ./file.sh
[04:01] <Taek> or sudo file.sh
[04:01] <Taek> one of those
[04:01] <tux1000> hi
[04:01] <poz> well i tryed sudo install.sh
[04:01] <poz> did not work
[04:01] <Taek> then try sudo ./install.sh
[04:01] <Moonlightning> Grrrrrrrrr. If I just `sudo apt-get remove` everything except the latest two kernels, I should be fine, right?
[04:01] <Taek> if neither, sudo sh install.sh
[04:02] <poz> sudo ./install.sh
[04:02] <poz> sudo: ./install.sh: command not found
[04:02] <poz> sudo sh install.sh worked
[04:02] <poz> thank you
[04:02] <Nimble> lol
[04:02] <Nimble> you probably needed to do "chmod +x ./install.sh"
[04:03] <Phoenix1969> black screen when booting into ubuntu first time... after choosing the os at the blu startup screen
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> Moonlightning, dpkg -l | grep linux-image  to see kernels then sudo apt-get purge
[04:03] <Moonlightning> `sudo apt-get purge` all but the latest two kernels?
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> be careful is all I will say
[04:03] <Moonlightning> I was trying, but I kinda don't have time to muck around with PPAs x.x
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> most keep two sets yeah
[04:04] <wilee-nilee> Moonlightning, The ppa would be one command to load a update and install run the app and all done.
[04:04] <Moonlightning> Can I get a copypastable command, or
[04:04] <tux1000> install ultrastar deluxe in ubuntu 13.4
[04:05] <Moonlightning> ...ooookay, manually `apt-get purge`ing kernels, here I go.
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> !details | tux1000
[04:06] <Taek> In that order?!?!?
[04:06] <Taek> Oh man , I think I did it wrong
[04:07] <tux1000> i am running Ubuntu 13.4 of 64 bits
[04:07] <Taek> mine was issue @CLRF distro ##
[04:07] <anonee> hello everyone
[04:07] <Taek> `Elloo
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> tux1000, took me 3 seconds to find this. http://askubuntu.com/questions/286583/how-can-i-install-ultrastar-deluxe-in-ubuntu-13-04
[04:08] <wilee-nilee> never heard of the game
[04:08] <Taek> Should be installing steam instead
[04:08] <Moonlightning> I got warnings about broken symlinks under /boot
[04:09] <Taek> symlinks is link files
[04:09] <Taek> similar to shortcuts in windows
[04:09] <Moonlightning> I know what a symlink is. XD
[04:09] <poz> anyone know how to get ubuntu to recognize a wireless usb dongle?
[04:09] <Taek> :D
[04:09] <tux1000> this is the problem, it is not repository, the repository not official is for 12.10 and 12.4
[04:09] <Taek> poz I believe someone answered you already.
[04:10] <Moonlightning> Is there a command I can run to check if the system is bootable as it is now?
[04:10] <Moonlightning> I'm kinda scared to shut down. XD
[04:10] <poz> it has not solved my problem
[04:10] <Taek> You ran the cmdline code the person gave you about 5/10 mins ago?
[04:11] <Taek> I believe it was to install a driver.
[04:11] <poz> cmdline?
[04:11] <anonee> I'm trying to modify a program's icon in the notification area of GNOME Classic panel. I tried altering /usr/share/icons but to no avail... somebody told me that the icon reference is in /usr/share/applications/<appname> but what I'm finding there is icon=<icon> but not a path to where the icon file is... any help is appreciated
[04:11] <poz> the install.sh thing?
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> poz, when you post something are are talking with someone use their nick, you had a pro helper got as far as posting their script but did n ot direct it at them with their nick.
[04:11] <Taek> No. poz
[04:11] <poz> i installed the driver from the manufactuing website, but the wireless usb dongle still does not work
[04:12] <Taek> anonee: did you look in /usr/share/applications for the icon itself that was listed in the file?
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> !who | poz
[04:12] <poz> i understand
[04:12] <Moonlightning> [open query] Is there a command I can run to check if the system is bootable as it is now?
[04:12] <poz> taek, maybe i missed it as I was restarting my computer
[04:13] <anonee> Taek I don't understand, you mean the .desktop file contains an icon?!
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> poz, Cool we want you to succeed. ;)
[04:13] <Taek> you said there was a file you looked into in /usr/share/applications/
[04:13] <Taek> anonee*
[04:14] <Taek> anonee: did you happen to look for the icon file in the same folder with the file you retrieved the icon name from
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> Moonlightning, run sudo update-grub
[04:16] <anonee> Taek /usr/share/applications contains .desktop files, they contain something like this:
[04:16] <ascidia001> whats the general ubuntu chat name?
[04:16] <Moonlightning> wilee-nilee: I don't have grub
[04:16] <anonee> Taek Exec=tomboy --search
[04:16] <anonee> Icon=tomboy
[04:16] <anonee> StartupNotify=true
[04:16] <anonee> Terminal=false
[04:16] <FloodBot1> anonee: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:16] <Moonlightning> I have yaboot; grub doesn't support ppc x.x
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> Moonlightning, Is this a wubi install?
[04:16] <Moonlightning> wilee-nilee: No, it's a standard Ubuntu Server installation
[04:17] <Taek> anonee: I am aware of what's in there
[04:17] <Taek> do you know the location of the icon you want to use?
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> Moonlightning, Never heard of yaboot, there must be a autoload or file to check the boot.
[04:17] <anonee> Taek that was just an example, there's still more 9 lines...
[04:17] <Moonlightning> argh
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> Moonlightning, Your answers are probably here. http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/yaboot-howto/
[04:18] <Taek> anonee: did you logout/in after making your icon change?
[04:18] <anonee> Oh sorry Taek, then what do you suggest? it says: icon=tomboy but where is tomboy?!
[04:18] <Pepperonipizza> im trying to copy one large dir + sub dirs to another, but I don't want to overwrite existing files only copy the new ones, will cp -rvn do that ?
[04:19] <anonee> Taek no actually, and sorry, I'll try and let u know if any
[04:19] <Taek> Okay :D
[04:19] <anonee> thank you Taek
[04:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> I don't suppose anyone here has a tutorial on how to create a package like flashplugin-installer or oracle-java7-installer, one that just downloads something and installes it for you?
[04:20] <Moonlightning> [open query] Isn't there just some apt-get command to redo all the...whatever it normally does when you install|remove kernels?
[04:21] <Taek> Moonlightning: I believe not.
[04:21] <Moonlightning> Aaaaargh.
[04:21] <Taek> I could be wrong, but I am pretty certain there isn't.
[04:21]  * Moonlightning installs an older kernel then. >.<
[04:21] <Pepperonipizza> what does portupgrade -a do ?
[04:22] <Taek> portupgrade --?
[04:22] <Taek> portupgrade -?
[04:22] <Taek> portupgrade --help
[04:22] <Taek> try those
[04:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> or man portupgrade :P
[04:22] <Taek> that too
[04:23] <Taek> thought that would be too much for him/her, ntzrmtthihu777
[04:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> lol, I say jump in both feet first XD
[04:24] <Taek> and hurt your jewels?
[04:24] <Taek> (for a guy that is)
[04:25]  * Taek <- guy
[04:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> lol XD
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> Taek, This is a family channel.
[04:25] <Pepperonipizza> why does cp -rvn /dir /newdir  -- clobber stuff I thought it wasn't supposed to
[04:25] <DarkAceLaptop> is there something similar to /timer command (hexchat) that I can use in the command line?
[04:26] <DarkAceLaptop> basically, something that will execute a command after an amount of time
[04:26] <wilee-nilee> DarkAceLaptop, There is #xchat for help as well, I use hexcaht same basic apps.
[04:27] <Taek> DarkAceLaptop: Have you tried "Sleep(600)" or "Sleep 600"
[04:27] <anonee> Taek I just did, no joy. I expected this cuz I restarted the program before.
[04:27] <DarkAceLaptop> hmm
[04:27] <Taek> Pretty common using sleep
[04:27] <wilee-nilee> DarkAceLaptop, Can you be specific, that is a vague decription at least to me.
[04:27] <Taek> anonee: did you modify the icon in /usr/share/icons/default/ ?
[04:28] <Taek> or in just a random folder?
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> a like refrence only means something to someone who knows what you are talking about.
[04:28] <Moonlightning> welp
[04:28] <DarkAceLaptop> ah, thanks Taek
[04:28] <Moonlightning> If it comes down to it, I should be able to boot using this old kernel
[04:28] <DarkAceLaptop> wilee-nilee, sleep is just what I was looking for
[04:28] <Moonlightning> rebooting now, wish me luck :P
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> ah cool
[04:28] <Taek> Moonlightning: G/L
[04:29] <Taek> DarkAceLaptop: It's a pretty common command in alot of scripting languages
[04:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> so no-one knows about that?
[04:29] <anonee> Taek no! I did a search for the program name and there were icons only in the hicolor theme, although I'm not using this theme, but these were the icons that I modified! but I'll check now.
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> ntzrmtthihu777, Not really needed in linux per-say
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> plenty of package types and loaders already
[04:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nilee: I'm doing this for the non-techs, lol.
[04:30] <Taek> DarkAceLaptop: FYI sleep in most scripting languages pauses the script for the given amount of time specified prior to continuing on
[04:31] <DarkAceLaptop> yeah, so 'sleep 500; command'
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> ntzrmtthihu777, Ah, adding to the confusion, you go then. ;)
[04:31] <Taek> DarkAceLaptop: 500 devided by 60
[04:31] <Taek> Should tell you how long it will pause for in seconds
[04:31] <DarkAceLaptop> is there a way of asking a program to exit, or is that what kill does?
[04:32] <Taek> EXIT 0
[04:32] <Taek> in most cases DarkAceLaptop
[04:32] <Taek> EXIT or EXIT 0
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> DarkAceLaptop: theres one that can kill apps after memory limit too
[04:32] <Taek> depends on the language you're scripting in
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> forget its name
[04:32] <DarkAceLaptop> as in, a command via terminal
[04:32] <anonee> Taek guess what! the default directory only contains index.theme and it says inherit=DMZ-White and DMZ-White has only cursors. how can you explain that?!
[04:32] <Pepperonipizza> trying to copy files without overwriting but cp -rvn is overwriting... any ideas ?
[04:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> Pepperonipizza: cp -rvnc?
[04:33] <Pepperonipizza> ntzrmtthihu777: whats c ?
[04:33] <Taek> anonee: Not a clue, dpn'
[04:33] <Taek> don't think I could explain even if I knew haha
[04:33] <Pepperonipizza> i don't see a c in the manpage
[04:33] <Taek> Pepperonipizza: you might be using a wrong switch
[04:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nilee: lol, just want something simple for the minecraft modders on linux so they can install techne without pulling their hair out :P
[04:34] <Taek> techne?
[04:34] <Pepperonipizza> Taek: well -n is no clobber = no overwrite I though
[04:34] <wilee-nilee> ntzrmtthihu777, I understand.
[04:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nilee: I got it working manually, but not everyone using linux is that techie :P
[04:35] <Taek> Pepperonipizza: try with -i instead of in
[04:35] <Taek> -n *
[04:35] <Taek> see if will work with interactive overwrite requests
[04:35] <PiyushB> in dd command the base size is refers to page size in memory of the block to be written on harddisk ?
[04:36] <Pepperonipizza> Taek: if I have to answer every time its gonna take a week its like 400gb of files
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> ntzrmtthihu777, I could not code my way out of a thin paper bag, and an armchair user, just a bit obsessed is all. ;)
[04:36] <Taek> Pepperonipizza: try with a compule of files
[04:36] <Taek> not all
[04:36] <varunendra> Pepperonipizza, take a look at rsync (man rsync).
[04:36] <Pepperonipizza> Taek: yes its asking
[04:37] <Taek> Pepperonipizza: you are correct though -n is supposed to not allow overwriting
[04:38] <Pepperonipizza> varunendra: ok so rsync -rv -- but what switch is like -n on cp ?
[04:38] <Pepperonipizza> ---ignore-existing
[04:38] <Pepperonipizza> k
[04:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> Pepperonipizza: maybe -u ? it only copies when the new file is newer than the destination
[04:39] <varunendra> Pepperonipizza, I haven't used it via command line myself, just read about it sometimes.
[04:40] <Pepperonipizza> seems like neithero ne works
[04:40] <Pepperonipizza> wtf
[04:40] <aoglobalent> need some newbie help, can any one be of service?
[04:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ask | aoglobalent
[04:41] <wilee-nilee> !language > Pepperonipizza
[04:41] <Pepperonipizza> oh grow up dude
[04:41] <Pepperonipizza> honestly you fucking troll
[04:42] <holstein> Pepperonipizza: i do appreciate your help here, but you cant use that language here, please
[04:42] <aoglobalent> o.k., I just did a fresh install of Ubuntu's latest version. I have not used Linux in apx 4 years, so I am very "green" to this all. I am installing catalyst for my 7990's. It is taking a bit, but needless to say it is workjing thus far... That being said what I need to know is how to access my repositories?
[04:42] <Pepperonipizza> varunendra: ntzrmtthihu777 itseems like using both -u and --ignore-existing is working
[04:43] <holstein> aoglobalent: what repositories do you have?
[04:43] <Taek> aoglobalent: repositories for what?
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> aoglobalent, name the actual install, what are your repositories.
[04:43] <holstein> aoglobalent: ppa's?
[04:43] <Taek> Ubuntu Software Center if you need to look for something aoglobalent.
[04:43] <happyface> how can I login to a mounted linux volume? I have a /mnt/wontBoot filesystem with a broken image and I want to login as root and fix it
[04:43] <aoglobalent> ahhh
[04:44] <aoglobalent> ok
[04:44] <anonee> Taek could the icon be inside the application like in windows?
[04:44] <holstein> happyface: i usually just hit it with a live CD
[04:44] <Pepperonipizza> happyface: chroot ?
[04:44] <happyface> Pepperonipizza: yeah chroot, that's it! thanks
[04:44] <Taek> anonee: Not all icons are inside their applications in windows. but there is a possiblity.
[04:44] <holstein> !chroot
[04:44] <aoglobalent> I am running a dual core because this is a mining Rig and needless to say, I needed to run one Linux box for various reasons.. That being said, can I find CGMiner in the repos?
[04:44] <Pepperonipizza> happyface: np ;-D
[04:45] <Taek> aoglobalent: most things like that are not in the Official Ubuntu Repos, but you can look to see
[04:45] <aoglobalent> I believe that is why it is taking so long for these ATI drivers to be installed... I mean this thing has been going for about 20 minutes now :/
[04:45] <aoglobalent> got yah
[04:46] <aoglobalent> Taek, thanks allot for the help :)
[04:46] <Pepperonipizza> aoglobalent: 7990's in linux, what for lol?
[04:46] <wilee-nilee> aoglobalent, It is in the saucy universe
[04:46] <Taek> aoglobalent: I just did a search, CGMiner is not there - you'll probably have to compile it from source
[04:46] <aoglobalent> Mining
[04:46] <Pepperonipizza> ahh.
[04:46] <aoglobalent> Crypto Coin Mining
[04:46] <Pepperonipizza> I thought mining wasn't really profitable anymore
[04:46] <wilee-nilee> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cgminer/3.3.1-1
[04:47] <alex_> Okay so what's with the 4 days thing on Ubuntu's homepage?
[04:47] <ntiy> hey. I am trying to do something like: ssh host "do smth | awk '{print $1}' " and it does not work. AWK part does not seem so process output of smth and print only first column. Instead I get full output. Can someone explain why?
[04:47] <Taek> Oh, it's in the extras..
[04:47] <aoglobalent> well, that is what they say, but I say dif....
[04:47] <aoglobalent> I am not even fully operations yet, and I am mining Coins no problem...
[04:47] <aoglobalent> The problem has become the Asic Miners Really
[04:47] <aoglobalent> They have taken the difficulty levels through the roof
[04:48] <aoglobalent> but there are alt Coin's, etc....
[04:48] <Taek> Asic?.
[04:48] <aoglobalent> YUP
[04:48] <wilee-nilee> alex_, HOw about a link to it or some details.
[04:48] <aoglobalent> they are a type of Mining Chip
[04:48] <aoglobalent> I am not to clear on the whole story to be honest, but essentialy there are new mining machines that do 10x more than GPU's with 10X less power consumption
[04:49] <alex_> wilee-nilee: http://www.ubuntu.com/
[04:49] <Taek> ntiy I don't think you can run a command on the same line as ssh host directly
[04:49] <aoglobalent> The Power consumption on these baby's ios the problem....
[04:49] <viju> Hello, how do I check what new version of the update is available for a package?
[04:49] <Pepperonipizza> if I had 7990's i'd game on them haha.
[04:49] <Taek> viju: update manager.
[04:49] <wilee-nilee> alex_, they might know better in #ubuntu-touch
[04:50] <ntiy> Taek: you definitely can do ssh host 'hostname'
[04:50] <Taek> I didn't say you couldn't ntiy
[04:50] <ntiy> Taek: what did you mean then?
[04:50] <Taek> ntiy: I don't believe you can run a command in the same line with the ssh host command
[04:51] <viju> Taek: I am looking for thunderbird update, in update manager there's nohing is listed about Thunderbird
[04:51] <Taek> Basically what you are doing is running two commands in the same line
[04:51] <Taek> viju http://www.mozzila.com/thunderbird
[04:51] <Taek> should do it
[04:51] <ntiy> am I not running one command on a remote host?
[04:51] <Taek> mis-spelling lol
[04:52] <Taek> viju:  sorry about that link - correctly -> http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/
[04:52] <wilee-nilee> viju, Wot does not like that link, what thnderbird do you ahve and what do you want.
[04:53] <wilee-nilee> second link is okay, not sure why one would not use the repos.
[04:53] <Taek> Why is it everytime I stand up - my wife's cat runs for dear life!
[04:53] <Taek> wilee-nilee: the person wishes to check version
[04:54] <steve__> I was just trying to update my Ubuntu to 12.04 and I got an error saying it could not import a module during Installing the uprades part of the download
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> Taek, The repos have the same versions in 24 hrs or less.
[04:54] <Taek> steve__: to which version are you updating?
[04:54] <viju> I'll check that Taek .   wilee-nilee my msn mails are not being fetched since april but it used to work pulling out some data, so when I check out that it's downloading same old mails from the past and now I have lots of duplicates. Someone suggested downloading a newer version should help solve the problem.
[04:54] <steve__> I rebooted it and got stuck at a command line that say (initramfs)
[04:55] <steve__> Taek: 12.04
[04:55] <Taek> steve__: from 12.04 to which?
[04:55] <steve__> also says BusyBox v1. 13.3
[04:55] <wilee-nilee> viju, What doe the help in yuour thunderbird show as a version?
[04:56] <steve__> Taek no from 10 to 12
[04:56] <Taek> Weird, I just did it couple of days ago without issue
[04:56] <Taek> from 1.04.4 to 12.04
[04:56] <Taek> 10.04.4 to 12.04
[04:56] <steve__> yep
[04:56] <Taek> how did you initiate the upgrade?
[04:57] <viju> wilee-nilee: 17.0.6
[04:57] <steve__> USB
[04:57] <Taek> Hmm
[04:57] <steve__> I installed it onto the ram first
[04:57] <Taek> Somehow somewhere it's possible that the USB drive got disconnected.
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> viju, Only thing newer is 17.0.7, I doubt the problem is a upgrade needed, have you asked in ##windows as far as any changes to MSN.
[04:58] <ntiy> there is my answer if anyone is wondering:  ssh host "do smth | awk '{print \$1}' "
[04:58] <ntiy> thanks all
[04:58] <steve__> then installed 10.04.4 onto the system successfully then just tried to upgrade
[04:58] <Taek> ntiy: :D
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> !eol | steve__ look at eol upgrades
[04:58] <Taek> steve__: sorry I don't have any idea how to possibly help
[04:59] <viju> wilee-nilee: I am doing it now
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> steve__, This is a desktop right?
[04:59] <Taek> Usually if something like that happens to me, I just download the latest distro or the one I want and install fresh
[04:59] <steve__> wilee: yep
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> viju, Cool I see you there.
[04:59] <steve__> I'm just going to uimage another USB stick
[05:00] <steve__> and try it again
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> steve__, Cool the dektop is eol, the server is not, just wanted to be sure we were on the same page.
[05:00] <Taek> 10.04.4 is EOL..
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> steve__, What is the problem with a 12.04 install?
[05:00] <xmetal> =)) just noticed a hickup in my idea ... i need to apply a bios upgrade to a laptop that cant  boot to usb devices (flash drive or cdrw/dvdrw) .. was going to use my old portable A:Drive (3x5 disc)
[05:00] <xmetal> but that is USB too
[05:00] <Taek> wilee-nilee: his upgrade failed hard during install of one of the packages
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> Taek, The server is not though
[05:00] <xmetal> =))
[05:01] <sodacrunch> if you are on Ubuntu, and you have Ruby 1.9 installed and you want 2.0, can you apt-get update ruby, or remove ruby and then specifically install 2.0?
[05:01] <Taek> wilee-nilee: that's weird, repos are missing for me!
[05:01] <steve__> wilee:  it got an error while in dkconf
[05:01] <Taek> let me check something
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> steve__, On the 12.04 install?
[05:01] <steve__> wilee:  during the upragding stage of the installation
[05:02] <steve__> yes
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> steve__, So why not just install 12.04?
[05:02] <Taek> what the!!!.. now I can't login.. permission denied (pubkey)
[05:02] <steve__> I was trying to install 12.04
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> and what happened?
[05:02] <xmetal> sometimes i find a "fresh install" is better
[05:03] <Taek> Why would I get a permissions died (pubkey)
[05:03] <Taek> when attempting to ssh
[05:03] <Taek> Unless.. my pub keys didn't stay!
[05:04] <steve__> during the installation it got an error in the usr/bin file while setting up dkconf
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> steve__, Did you check the sum of the ISO?
[05:04] <steve__> wilee: no
[05:05] <netlar> I am using the AMD driver, should I be blacklisting the open source driver?
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> steve__, It is rather unusual for it to just error out in a install, going to a eol to upgrade is a bad idea, use the mini netload maybe.
[05:06] <wilee-nilee> or check the sum and or download 12.04 again in the torrent maybe.
[05:09] <vigoos> I have lost my ubuntu password. I tried resetting the password from recovery mode. Still it throws up an error and im stuck
[05:09] <Taek> oh my bad wilee-nilee seems I am running 11.04 not 10.04.4
[05:10] <vigoos> I have lost my ubuntu password. I tried resetting the password from recovery mode.
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> Taek, Heh, it happens, check the eol upgrades if you mve up.
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> move*
[05:11] <vigoos> anyone has any solution?
[05:11] <Taek> 12.04 is like 2016 or 2017.
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> vigoos, what link did you use to try the recovery?
[05:12] <wilee-nilee> vigoos, And what happened.
[05:12] <vigoos> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-forgotten-ubuntu-password-in-2-minutes-or-less/
[05:12] <vigoos> it threw up an error saying password unchanged
[05:12] <Taek> i'll be already with 12.04 until year 2017
[05:13] <tracekill> So, is UEFI pretty much the death sentence for dual booting that it seems to be?
[05:13] <tracekill> Or rather SecureBoot?
[05:13] <jdale> Hi
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | tracekill
[05:14] <wilee-nilee> vigoos, Have you set a root password, besides having the user password?
[05:14] <jdale> Hi
[05:15] <Taek> hmm I forgot how to do multiple irc servers with irssi :(
[05:16] <goddard> Taek: you could just use multiple tabs
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> tracekill, Many dualboot with the safeboot, it is just a learning exspeience for some I think.
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> tracekill, here is more info that is probably helpful. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[05:17] <tracekill> Yeah, I literally just now got it (somewhat) working on my Acer M5-583P-6428. Is there somewhere I can put the caveats I ran into?
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> tracekill, YOu could add them to that thread I posted for the author to look at.
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> Not sure its open is all
[05:18] <Taek> Whoia Just got an error about lssb_re;ease
[05:19] <Taek> lsb_release
[05:20] <Taek> What would cause this: lsb_release crashed with IOError in getstatusoutput(); [Errno 10] No child Processes
[05:21] <Pepperonipizza> Taek: isn't it lsb_release -a
[05:21] <Taek> I dunno
[05:21] <Taek> Ubuntu error window
[05:22] <Taek> "Sorry, Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced and internal error."
[05:22] <Taek> one of those windows
[05:23] <Taek> upgrade did horrible from 10.04.4 to 12.04
[05:24] <vigoos_> anyone knows how to reset the password from grub?
[05:24] <Taek> man I might just go streight to 13.04 at this time
[05:24] <sodacrunch> I am scared
[05:25] <irssi-mike> I had no mouse after installing nvidia drivers so i did modprobe psmouse proto=imps and it came back but now I realize that even under settings it appears that I can't adjust the sensitivity of it (it's extremely slow) and i'm wondering how to get my mouse back permanently and change the senstivity?
[05:25] <irssi-mike> pretty please
[05:27] <xmetal> that reminds me .. i just (never saw/messed with it before) saw gfxboot (have to find what that does and how to use it ... ) as well as (i think i have this right) grub-image (to boot ISO's?)
[05:27] <xmetal> just noticed that in the description
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> sodacrunch, Some general info. http://askubuntu.com/questions/261329/package-for-ruby-2-0-on-precise
[05:29] <wilee-nilee> xmetal, You can boot ISO dfrom grub on a install, and there are handfuls of usb loaders many of which allow multiple ISO's
[05:30] <Taek> I wonder, that person that wanted to make a deb for minecraft, why he/she just not make a install.run script
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> seemed like an imagined need anyway, learning the ways everyone uses seems like more functional learning situation
[05:34] <aoglobalent> how do I check if my catlayst - sti drivers are installed?
[05:34] <Taek> well, an install.run script is just basically a sh script with binary data attached to it (file.tar.gz) and can be adapted to different distros and version between them
[05:34] <aoglobalent> I just went to the ATI site and downloaded the drivers
[05:35] <aoglobalent> I walked away from my comp and it froze my screen and am not sure if my drivers finished installing
[05:35] <aoglobalent> HOW can I check?
[05:35] <Taek> hmm I don't know that answer aoglobalent
[05:35] <Taek> maybe wilee-nilee  ??
[05:36] <wilee-nilee> Taek, I get some 3rd parties that are sh scripts yeah no biggie to install.
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> Honestly I suspect the gamers need another type of help, lol
[05:37]  * wilee-nilee ducks
[05:37] <sodacrunch> thanks wilee-nilee
[05:37]  * sodacrunch sighs
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> sodacrunch, seems to be a time to yell at the ruby developers.
[05:38] <sodacrunch> wilee-nilee: hmmm true
[05:41] <Taek> aoglobalent: you could try this
[05:41] <Taek> egrep -i " connected|card detect|primary dev" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:41] <paindeer> hi
[05:43] <Pepperonipizza> does anyone know if I make a partition using parted on linux w/ type ufs is it ufs or ufs2 ?
[05:45] <Taek> aoglobalent: you can try installing sysinfo and see if that tells you want's going on
[05:50] <sodacrunch> goo
[05:50] <sodacrunch> goodnight friends
[05:58] <Taek> <3 AMD
[05:58] <Taek> they make drivers for linux unlike that of intel
[05:58] <Taek> err nvidia
[06:01] <farbod> ##xbox
[06:12] <kingbeast> I've never had a problem with any Intel graphics I have ever used, even the old ones.
[06:13] <Calinou> i have kernel panics 1) randomly when booting, 2) often when my CPU is at full load, on xubuntu 13.04
[06:13] <Calinou> i heard 3.8.0-19 kernel was problematic, is this true?
[06:13] <Calinou> but i usually don't crash at idle
[06:13] <wilee-nilee> Calinou, you should have 3.8.0.26
[06:14] <Calinou> i'll hope for the update manager to not fuck up my PPA-provided nvidia driver then
[06:14] <kingbeast> !language
[06:14] <Calinou> sorry
[06:15] <feever> I'm having choppy then failing sound with wine on 12.04. PulseAudio works fine for everything else. It's just sound on wine. I've been having trouble finding others with the exact same issue. Audio device is Radeon HD 4000 series.
[06:17] <feever> the kernel module is snd-hda-intel
[06:17] <wilee-nilee> feever, Have you stopped by #winehq
[06:17] <feever> wilee-nilee, not yet, will do.
[06:18] <feever> wilee-nilee, that's not the channel
[06:18] <wilee-nilee> feever, For?
[06:18] <feever> wine channel
[06:19] <wilee-nilee> feever, Funny I was just there and there info link is the eine website.
[06:19] <wilee-nilee> wine*
[06:19] <Calinou> :/ can't update through the GUI update manager
[06:19] <Calinou> complains about unauthentified software sources
[06:19] <wilee-nilee> Topic for #winehq is: Wine end user support http://www.winehq.org feever
[06:20] <ikonia> Calinou: what does ?
[06:20] <feever> wilee-nilee, typo in channel name, sorry
[06:20] <wilee-nilee> feever, it happens. ;)
[06:20] <Calinou> maybe it's relevant but when I do sudo apt-get update I get these warnings:
[06:21] <Calinou> erm, I tried uncommenting all my PPAs
[06:22] <ikonia> Calinou: what's the actual problem
 i have kernel panics 1) randomly when booting, 2) often when my CPU is at full load, on xubuntu 13.04
[06:22] <Calinou> also had this on 12.10, with two different RAMs and storages.
[06:22] <Calinou> (but I never had it on booting)
[06:22] <Calinou> also read somewhere ubuntu hates SSDs
[06:22] <ikonia> Calinou: ok, that's just wrong
[06:22] <Calinou> and that's why I crash sometimes on boot
[06:22] <ikonia> nope
[06:23] <ikonia> there is zero chance of that being the case
[06:23] <Calinou> i read the 3.8.0-19 kernel was panicky
[06:23] <ikonia> nope
[06:23] <ikonia> you seem to be reading a lot of random made up information
[06:24] <Calinou> it's not overheating, my CPU hardly hits 55°C at load
[06:24] <Calinou> same for graphics card
[06:24] <ikonia> always good to know and check
[06:38] <wilee-nilee> Calinou, Sounds like you might develop a critical thinking process, double check what you read, I run ubuntu on a SSD with o problems.
[06:39] <Calinou> i'm not asking for ops dissing me here 8)
[06:40] <wilee-nilee> Calinou, Nobodies dissing you that critical thinking is what you learn in academia.
[06:40] <wilee-nilee> did not mean to anyway. ;)
[06:41] <taek> custom minecaft launcher yay
[06:43] <Calinou> avoid from using them, especially if they're not open source
[06:43] <taek> Calinou: are you talking to me?
[06:44] <Calinou> yes
[06:45] <taek> Laucnher command? not sure what to call it
[06:45] <taek> Shortcut to launch it?
[06:46] <taek> Application Launcher
[06:47] <Taek> since in my ubuntu enviornment, while click on the Minecraft.jar - it opens in Archive pogram
[06:47] <mohawk> Is there any reson to fear Ubuntu, is the Canonical dev team safe? what if they dont like us or get mad at us? thats kinda scary to think about.
[06:47] <Calinou> make a .sh that uses java -Xms1G -jar minecraft.jar
[06:47] <Taek> so instead of having to open terminal and continue to use it to play, I made a app launcher
[06:47] <Calinou> mohawk: they are safe
[06:48] <Calinou> and if you're using steam or a proprietary driver right now, you're being hypocritic 8)
[06:48] <ikonia> what ?
[06:48] <Calinou> people complain about ubuntu, and they use tons of proprietary stuff.
[06:48] <Calinou> once i even saw people using skype
[06:48] <Taek> I have an actual icon to click on the side to launch minecraft, Calinou
[06:49] <Calinou> it's just a .sh script or a .desktop file
[06:49] <ikonia> Calinou: his question has NOTHING to do with propritary software, you appear to have real issues reading information given to you
[06:49] <Calinou> no i'm relating both
[06:50] <ikonia> Calinou: this is nothing to do with propitary software, please help people with the questions they ask, not your weak attempts to be negative about things
[06:50] <Taek> ikonia: I wasn't asking a question haha
[06:50] <ikonia> Taek: who said you where ?
[06:50] <Taek> Just stating.
[06:50] <ikonia> thanks for that random bit of info
[06:51] <Calinou> does anyone have any idea why does my problem occur?
[06:51] <ikonia> Calinou: what have you done to investigate it ?
[06:52] <Calinou> tried with several RAMs already, tried resetting BIOS settings
[06:52] <ikonia> that is just random
[06:52] <ikonia> what have you actually done to investigate it
[06:52] <Taek> What's your issue Calinou  ?
[06:52] <Alegreya> trol
[06:53] <Calinou> kernel panics (or freeze + reboot) when I use 100% CPU, or sometimes when booting or logging in
[06:53] <Calinou> what do you mean by "actually done to investigate it"?
[06:53] <Taek> ANd you are certain this is caused by ram?.
[06:53] <ikonia> Calinou: well, what have you done to look at the problem / diagnose it, find a pattern/rule out a pattern
[06:53] <Calinou> no? i'm actually thinking it's a software issue
[06:54] <ikonia> Calinou: the odds are it is a software issue
[06:54] <Calinou> i get this problem since i built my PC in march
[06:54] <Alegreya> its caused by cat fur in the cpu fan
[06:54] <ikonia> Alegreya: stop it now
[06:54] <Calinou> no, i even changed the thermal paste recently, to no avail
[06:54] <ikonia> Alegreya: help with real help, or be quiet
[06:54] <Taek> Calinou: have you attempted to try with an alternate OS, windows perhaps?
[06:54] <ikonia> Calinou: ok, so lets look at it a bit logically
[06:54] <ikonia> Calinou: what's your current OS ?
[06:54] <Calinou> xubuntu 13.04 64 bit
[06:55] <ikonia> Calinou: ok, you said you built this PC in march correct ?
[06:55] <Calinou> yes
[06:55] <afflicto_> Hey all, I recently did "sudo apt-get remove compiz" by accident. What should I do?
[06:55] <ikonia> Calinou: has ubuntu 13.04 always been the OS on it (doubtful as 04 is after march)
[06:55] <Calinou> used to use xubuntu 12.10 64 bit on it
[06:55] <aeon-ltd> afflicto: install it again?
[06:55] <ikonia> afflicto_: re-install it ?
[06:55] <ikonia> Calinou: ok, in the short time you used 12.10 - did you have this problem ?
[06:55] <Alegreya> accident...
[06:56] <Calinou> IIRC, only when 100% CPU is used, not when booting
[06:56] <Taek> You don't accidently remove compiz in terminal..
[06:56] <ikonia> Calinou: ok, so there is still a panic though, so for at least one root cause, you can stop thinking abou things like kernel as they are different between the two versions
[06:56] <afflicto_> I was gonna remove copmiz-settings-manager thing xD
[06:56] <ikonia> agreed ?
[06:56] <Taek> ikonia: Agreed.
[06:57] <ikonia> Taek: ok, so the first thing I heard early was "disable all my PPA's"
[06:57] <ikonia> Taek: oops, sorry not you
[06:57] <Taek> HAHAH
[06:57] <ikonia> Calinou: the first thing I heard earlier is "disable all my PPA's"
[06:58] <ikonia> Calinou: PPA's are not supported/maintained by the ubuntu core dev team, and often are just terrible software,
[06:58] <Calinou> relevant: http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1286311 (french)
[06:58] <lenz> Hey guys! I'd like to install a linux-based OS on a piece of hardware that I have here.. It's a JayBook 9901 (one of those tiny chinese netbooks) and it has a VIA M8505 processor, which is ARM-based. How do I find out which debian image I should download?
[06:58] <Calinou> ikonia: nvidia-319 isn't available in official ubuntu repos
[06:58] <ikonia> Calinou: to work this through, (you'll hate this) I suggest a CLEAN 13.04 install, with no PPA's installed at all, no 3rd party
[06:58] <ikonia> Calinou: ahhhh and it's abinary kernel module
[06:58] <ikonia> Calinou: I think we see a nice suspect
[06:59] <Calinou> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1169984
[06:59] <ikonia> Calinou: I suggest a clean install with NO PPA's installed, run it with the vesa xorg driver and monitor it to see if you get the panics under load
[06:59] <ikonia> Calinou: are you having that bug / error ?
[06:59] <Taek> I would also like to add, if the issues continues try a something such as windows or perhaps debian.
[06:59] <Calinou> likely
[07:00] <Calinou> I see that snd_hda thingy
[07:00] <ikonia> Calinou: no, are you getting it, yes/no
[07:00] <Taek> To see if the High CPU issue continues
[07:00] <ikonia> Calinou: that's a sound card module unloading, that means nothing
[07:00] <Calinou> I am seeing it
[07:00] <ikonia> Calinou: sorry, you appear to be approaching this randomly rather than actually analysing your problem
[07:01] <ikonia> can't help while you just guess at things and try to link them to random bugs
[07:01] <ikonia> we've already shown with 12.10 it's not the kernel at this root cause, and you agreed, yet your linking to kernel bugs
[07:01] <ikonia> can't be bothered wasting more time on this,
[07:02] <Calinou> didn't have it at booting, just when CPU is at load
[07:03] <ikonia> Calinou: you still had a kernel panic, you've got to address one at a time
[07:03] <ikonia> rather than scatter gun
[07:04] <feever> mohawk, as long as they don't load spyware by default on the main distro, I think the Ubuntu team may be ok. As soon as someone sees some kind of spyware though, who knows.
[07:04] <feever> oh wait...
[07:06] <mohawk> Is there any reson to fear Ubuntu, is the Canonical dev team safe? what if they dont like us or get mad at us? thats kinda scary to think about.his ip address. i am stupid and have no defense for high technology attacks.
[07:06] <Calinou> neither nouveau nor vesa are solutions to me, too
[07:06] <ikonia> mohawk: you've already asked that
[07:06] <ikonia> mohawk: you've already been told "no reason to fear, use it. If you don't trust them, don't use it"
[07:06] <ikonia> Calinou: what do you mean "solutions"
[07:06] <aeon-ltd> mohawk: you crazy man, should you fear the electric companies? gas? ISPs? banks?
[07:06] <Calinou> drivers which provide what my card can provide
[07:07] <mohawk> feever: no I meant that my cousin is mentally ill and rants on irc with my computer and didnt want to make the dev team mad at my ip address because i have no way to deal with high technology
[07:07] <ikonia> Calinou: it is "trouble shooting", to find the problem
[07:07] <aeon-ltd> mohawk: then they will ban you and not care unless you forcibly removed the ban
[07:07] <feever> mohawk, http://www.pcworld.com/article/2013315/ubuntu-linuxs-amazon-integration-gets-a-thumbs-down-from-the-eff.html
[07:07] <ikonia> Calinou: sorry, can't help you, you don't to listen, you can't approach this logically, and you've already made up your mind
[07:08] <Calinou> bye anyway, for now
[07:08] <Calinou> also, i am listening
[07:10] <Frank81> Realy big trouble ! i cant use apt-get remove coz it fails
[07:10] <ikonia> Frank81: you'll need to explain clearer than that if you want help
[07:10] <ikonia> Frank81: the answer with the same ammount of detail is "fix it"
[07:10] <aeon-ltd> Frank81: post the exact message here if it fits on one line, if not pastebin
[07:12] <Frank81> http://pastebin.de/35412
[07:13] <Frank81> since i am not sure what the exact fail is :d there are many
[07:13] <Frank81> but it would be enought to get that out of the package management so that i can reinstall it
[07:13] <Taek> Frank81: are you using "sudo apt-get remove" ?
[07:13] <Frank81> i did a fail and added a deb wezzy repo
[07:14] <Frank81> ya i use sudo taek
[07:14] <Frank81> but i can do a sudo su -
[07:14] <Frank81> when you think it helps
[07:14] <Taek> Have you tried with "sudo apt-get purge package-name"
[07:14] <auronandace> Frank81: never mix debian repos with ubuntus, things will break badly
[07:15] <Taek> ^
[07:15] <Frank81> auronand good point
[07:15] <Frank81> oh i am so tiered :(
[07:15] <Frank81> why is it so hard to get a fast webserver running
[07:16] <aeon-ltd> Frank81: try nginx?
[07:16] <Frank81> maybe i simply re install the whole server
[07:16] <Frank81> aeon-ltd not fast enought and to bugy and to much changes
[07:16] <Alegreya> http://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/201307/page12.html
[07:16] <Frank81> many reason for don't using nginx
[07:16] <Alegreya> Frank81
[07:17] <Frank81> nginx is a fake at all apache-mpm-event is the same with fast cgi
[07:17] <Alegreya> are you sniff my connection?
[07:17] <Frank81> and is even faster with the right setting
[07:17] <Frank81> Alegreya: good point but i am far behind that ^^
[07:17] <Alegreya> python -m SimpleHTTPServer 8080 Serving HTTP on 0.0.0.0 port 8080
[07:18] <Frank81> i cant run such webservers with 5000 + hits per minut
[07:18] <Frank81> Alegreya and php has a httpd in too
[07:18] <Frank81> but realy thx for the nice trys
[07:18] <auronandace> Frank81: openbsd are in the process of replacing apache with nginx in their base system, if its good enough for openbsd then maybe your assessment of nginx needs to be re-evaluated
[07:19] <Frank81> auronand nope they simply make it simply
[07:19] <Frank81> i benchmarked the whole last week
[07:19] <Alegreya> http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-lighttpd-with-php5-php-fpm-and-mysql-support-on-ubuntu-13.04
[07:19] <Alegreya> you have been reading this?
[07:19] <Frank81> LightHTTPD Apache all versions and Configs ( Round about 15 usefull setups) nginx and even LiteSPEED httpd
[07:20] <Frank81> ya i am familary with that
[07:20] <Frank81> but any how i messed some stuff up
[07:20] <aeon-ltd> Frank81: are you running mysql while trying to remove it?
[07:20] <Frank81> maybe i need to reinstall whole server
[07:21] <Frank81> aeon-ltd: good point stoped it now but still same fail
[07:21] <Frank81> i repaired the repositorys so i now simply need to get it done to install the original packeges over the debian once
[07:23] <Sazpaimon> can anyone please confirm if the latest bcmwl drivers support the new 802.11ac cards?
[07:23] <Frank81> i need to get it out of the management
[07:23] <Frank81> thats the solution but i don't know how
[07:26] <kidx> I need help
[07:26] <lenz> Hey guys! I'd like to install a linux-based OS on a piece of hardware that I have here.. It's a JayBook 9901 (one of those tiny chinese netbooks) and it has a VIA M8505 processor, which is ARM-based. How do I find out which debian image I should download?
[07:27] <kidx> Steam keeps saying the driver needs to be updated i am on the latest
[07:27] <auronandace> !arm | lenz
[07:27] <kidx> how do i get the latest ati experimental
[07:27] <xyz> hi
[07:27] <Eva> hello, I have installed 13.04 and use two screens. I did set up put compiz plugin to enable window viewport switching via keyboard. When I start a gnome-terminal, open a new tab and then switch workspace, the gnome-terminal window is moved to my primary screen (remaining in the same workspace). Anyone experience something like this ?
[07:29] <aeon-ltd> kidx: like this? http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Quantal_Installation_Guide#Installing_Catalyst_Manually_.28from_AMD.2FATI.27s_site.29_BETA.2FEXPERIMENTAL
[07:30] <Taek> lenz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM#How_do_I_install_Ubuntu_on_my_device
[07:30] <aeon-ltd> kidx: or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve#AMD.2BAC8-ATI_Graphics
[07:30] <day> My onboard soundcard is a ALC889A and im having trouble with my mic. Its very quiet(already checked alsamixer etc..) and i get small random soundfragments (clicking,shirping etc.). Ive a similar problem with windows, if i use the build in drivers. I guess the linux driver has a similar bug :/
[07:30] <kidx> does tefanclub ubuntu installer work here
[07:31] <kidx> http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/ubuntu-amd-catalyst-install
[07:32] <kidx> does that work on 12.04
[07:32] <kidx> and will it work for me i need somthing simple
[07:32] <dr_willis> its not officially  supported do we dont know
[07:33] <dr_willis> the  addational-driver tool is the standard way
[07:33] <kidx> yea but i am not geting the latest drivers
[07:33] <Taek> kidx you can grab the Official driver from amd directly, I've just done it myself not to long ago
[07:33] <dr_willis> !latest
[07:33] <kidx> it will work for steam and stuff there
[07:34] <kidx> what i get the beta
[07:34] <Taek> I was just playing TF2 about 10/15 minutes ago kidx
[07:34] <kidx> yea what drivers
[07:34] <Taek> using the latest beta driver for my setup
[07:34] <kidx> beta or no
[07:34] <kidx> ok
[07:34] <kidx> ill dl beta from amd
[07:35] <Taek> Please make sure to obtain the latest official driver from amd for your hardware.
[07:35] <Taek> Once you download it chmod +x file.run
[07:35] <Taek> double click on the file and select run in terminal
[07:36] <kidx> i am getting beta 13.6 is this correct
[07:36] <Taek> depends on your device kidz
[07:37] <Taek> is it a desktop or laptop kidx
[07:37] <ikonia> kidx: why are you not using the versions provided by ubuntus package manager ?
[07:38] <kidx> casue it not updating correctly
[07:38] <ikonia> updating what ?
[07:38] <kidx> and i was told to go to amd site to get the updated one
[07:39] <kidx> my drivers
[07:39] <ikonia> kidx: why ?
[07:39] <ikonia> what's wrong with the version in the ubuntu packages ?
[07:39] <kidx> i am just gon install it form amd
[07:39] <ikonia> why ?
[07:39] <ikonia> it has more risk/maintenance
[07:39] <kidx> i just told you the additional driver manager is not updatig my drivers to the laters grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[07:39] <Taek> Well for me ikonia, there's four options in the additional driver app, and neither one stats which version they are.
[07:40] <ikonia> kidx: why do you want the latest ?
[07:40] <ikonia> kidx: what's wrong with the version in the repo
[07:40] <Taek> Outdated maybe?
[07:40] <kidx> casue steam is asking for it
[07:40] <kidx> lol
[07:40] <kidx> keeps asking to update
[07:40] <ikonia> outdated ?? what does that even mean
[07:40] <kidx> ask steam
[07:40] <ikonia> kidx: what is steam asking for exactly
[07:41] <Taek> asking to update the video card driver.
[07:41] <kidx> to update my graphic drivers
[07:41] <kidx> lol
[07:41] <Taek> I just went thjrough it myself
[07:41] <Equinox3> some water to create steam?
[07:41] <ikonia> kidx: does it say a specific version, or does it say there is a problem ?
[07:41] <kidx> i am getting the amd driver from the site
[07:41] <Taek> It states a speciofic version
[07:41] <ikonia> Equinox3: not helpful
[07:41] <ikonia> Taek: is that version later than the version ubuntu packages provide
[07:41] <kidx> why cant i just get beta 13.6
[07:42] <ikonia> kidx: what's stopping you ?
[07:42] <kidx> how do i check
[07:42] <ikonia> check what ?
[07:42] <devmedooo> how can i boot ubuntu install from iso in windows 7???
[07:42] <Taek> I never checked the package manager, just used the additional driver app
[07:42] <Equinox3> kidx, where did you install steam from
[07:42] <ikonia> Taek: does that not list the version it's installing ?
[07:42] <Taek> and since that doesn't diosplay a version for each driver (4 listed) I went the save way
[07:42] <Taek> safe*
[07:42] <kidx> from a file called a deb
[07:42] <ikonia> Taek: are you running 13.04 ?
[07:42] <Taek> No
[07:42] <ikonia> Taek: 12.04 ?
[07:42] <Taek> 12.04
[07:42] <kidx> from a site called steampowered
[07:43] <kidx> yes 12.04
[07:43] <ikonia> Taek: be worth logging a bug for an LTS release to get the package updated to a compatible version if it's too old
[07:43] <Frank81> is there a way to make a package unregonized by the package manager
[07:43] <ikonia> Frank81: what do you mean ?
[07:43] <Frank81> ikonia used the package manager installed something
[07:43] <Taek> I just went to amd's website and downloaded and installed myself ikonia
[07:43] <Frank81> now packagemanager should think its not installed
[07:43] <Frank81> thats it
[07:44] <ikonia> Frank81: that's just foolish, if you used the package manager to install it, it will of course know it's installed (and should do, or it would be a bug)
[07:44] <Frank81> args
[07:44] <Frank81> i know what i am asking thx for trying
[07:44] <ikonia> Frank81: why don't you explain the problem, it may be clearer then
[07:44] <Taek> kidx do you know what your videocard is?
[07:44] <Frank81> ikonia
[07:44] <devmedooo> how can i install ubuntu from iso ( internal harddesk )
[07:45] <kidx> yes
[07:45] <Frank81> i made a 100% clear question
[07:45] <kidx> HD5770
[07:45] <Taek> desktop?
[07:45] <Frank81> it is foolish to re discuse why i ask that
[07:45] <Frank81> but thx
[07:45] <ikonia> Frank81: yes, and it's a foolish thing to request, to use the package manager to install software but not track that it's installed - that's the point of the package manager
[07:45] <devmedooo> how can i install ubuntu from iso ( internal harddisk )
[07:45] <Frank81> ikonia a package manager is software
[07:45] <Frank81> software has fails
[07:45] <Frank81> so i need to fix the fails
[07:45] <Taek> kidx it's a desktop right?
[07:46] <ikonia> Frank81: hang on, so you are saying it's installed something and it DOESN'T think it's installed
[07:46] <farbod> join #xbox
[07:46] <Frank81> nope
[07:46] <wilee-nilee> devmedooo, Do you have a linux install with grub now?
[07:46] <Frank81> that would be the goal
[07:46] <Frank81> to fix the problem
[07:46] <ikonia> Frank81: that is not a bug
[07:46] <farbod> join /#xbox
[07:46] <ikonia> Frank81: that is how it's expected to work
[07:46] <kidx> yes
[07:46] <kidx> desktop
[07:46] <ikonia> Frank81: if you install software via the package manager, the package manager has to track it
[07:46] <Frank81> ya
[07:46] <Frank81> and now he installed wrong software
[07:46] <Frank81> wrong depends and all that
[07:47] <Frank81> and now that needs to get fixed
[07:47] <Taek> kidx -> http://is.gd/8wN0A1
[07:47] <Frank81> the way to fix that is install the right packages again
[07:47] <ikonia> Frank81: ok, so a package has the wrong depencies ?
[07:47] <Frank81> over the existing once
[07:47] <ikonia> dependencies even
[07:47] <kidx> all i know is the aditional driver is not installing the upto date driver
[07:47] <Frank81> THE SOLUTION is making it´+
[07:47] <Frank81> sorry i can't talk about it
[07:47] <Frank81> makes me too angry
[07:47] <ikonia> Frank81: you can't talk about it ???
[07:47] <Taek> kidx the link for the latest of your card driver is at this link -> http://is.gd/8wN0A1
[07:47] <ikonia> Frank81: how can we help you then ?
[07:47] <devmedooo> wilee-nilee , what ? i don't know what is grub , the ubuntu version is 13.04 and i want make boot from iso file & along side windows 7
[07:47] <Frank81> ya else i punch my walls and break my heands
[07:47] <Frank81> hands and so on
[07:48] <ikonia> Frank81: is this on ubuntu or debian ?
[07:48] <Frank81> ubuntu
[07:48] <ikonia> Frank81: then why are you asking in #debian ?
[07:48] <Frank81>  coz ubuntu is debian based and here is no one that knows what i whant
[07:48] <ikonia> Frank81: explain the problem, I'm sure it can be fixed,
[07:48] <devmedooo> wilee-nile : here??
[07:49] <Frank81> ikonia i am sure too
[07:49] <Frank81> the problem is that i need to install the right package
[07:49] <ikonia> Frank81: what you want doesn't sound like a solution, but if you explain the problem, I'm sure it's not a problem to fix it
[07:49] <Frank81> but there is a wrong
[07:49] <Frank81> that can't be removed
[07:49] <devmedooo> wilee-nilee...
[07:49] <ikonia> Frank81: what's the software package ?
[07:49] <ikonia> Frank81: lets take a look
[07:49] <Frank81> lol mysql-server-5.5
[07:49] <wilee-nilee> devmedooo, you need it on a dvd or a usb then
[07:49] <ikonia> !info mysql-server
[07:50] <ikonia> Frank81: ok, so what version of ubuntu is this ?
[07:50] <Frank81> raring
[07:50] <Frank81> and the package manager is the same
[07:50] <mohawk> is it normal after install to have under "other devices" 151 Gb block device /dev/mapper/ubuntu-vg-root & 8.5 block device /dev/mapper/ubuntu-vg-swap_1 ?
[07:50] <Frank81> it don't matters
[07:50] <ikonia> Frank81: what ?
[07:50] <ikonia> Frank81: same as what ?
[07:50]  * Taek afk mode
[07:50] <Frank81> ikonia thx for trying to help me
[07:51] <devmedooo> can't i make it from hardware disk? + i tried make with the integrated wubi and i have error : " The request is not supported. "
[07:51] <ikonia> Frank81: hang on - just give me the info
[07:51] <Frank81> but i know you can't solve that
[07:51] <ikonia> what ???
[07:51] <Frank81> i am not as unskilled as you think
[07:51] <ikonia> you've not given me any info,
[07:51] <Lanser> Hey guys, I am installing Ubuntu thru a LiveUSB, and I am using unetbootin, but it's stuck at 15%, at filesystem.squashfs? Is 'ufw' blocking something?
[07:51] <Frank81> and the ways you try to ask makes me knowing that
[07:51] <ikonia> Frank81: what ???? I'm asking for the information to help you
[07:51] <Frank81> but you can't
[07:51] <Lionthinker> hi everyone, can someone help me with Ubuntu One? I'm having problems
[07:51] <Frank81> the right info would be a file path
[07:51] <kidx> now this is saying a previous driver was installed when i uninstalled it
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> Lanser: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[07:51] <Frank81> where he writes down the package infos
[07:52] <ikonia> Frank81: no-one can help you unless you give me the information
[07:52] <Frank81> of the installed packages
[07:52] <Frank81> nothing else
[07:52] <guest120280954> what is the name of the ntfs scan disk tool with ntfsprogs. need to lift some pics with a live disc but puter wasnt shut down right
[07:52] <Lanser> ActionParsnip: How can I do that?
[07:52] <kidx> now i am stuck
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | Lanser
[07:52] <kidx> wish this would work
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> Lanser: how did you know that the file you used was consistent and complete?
[07:52] <tracekill> Huh. First time I've actually had Ubuntu not be able to find my wireless adapter (Intel).
[07:52] <devmedooo> i have a problem installing ubuntu i hope any supporter interseted help me........
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> devmedooo: just ask
[07:52] <Frank81> or a command to make it simply not manage the package anymore
[07:52] <ikonia> Frank81: just explain the problem
[07:53] <ikonia> Frank81: the package manager will NOT ignore a package
[07:53] <devmedooo> i tried install ubuntu 13.04 with the integrated wubi and i have error : " The request is not supported. "
[07:53] <Lanser> ActionParsnip: I torrented it.
[07:53] <ikonia> Frank81: so if you give us the info, I'm sure we can fix it
[07:53] <Frank81> ikonia then re install is the way i need to go
[07:53] <Frank81> but i think the package manger simply writes a file
[07:53] <kidx> i cant get the video drivers installed
[07:53] <Frank81> thats it
[07:53] <ikonia> Frank81: so the package is mysql-server
[07:53] <Frank81> but ok then i simply start my migration to aws
[07:53] <devmedooo> ActionParsnip:i tried install ubuntu 13.04 with the integrated wubi and i have error : " The request is not supported. "
[07:54] <ikonia> Frank81: you're running ubuntu 13.04, correct ?
[07:54] <Frank81> and re install whole stack
[07:54] <Frank81> ikonia ya i was running that
[07:54] <Lionthinker> anyone know things about Ubuntu sync function?
[07:54] <ikonia> Frank81: are you not running it now ?
[07:54] <ikonia> Frank81: what are you running now ?
[07:54] <Frank81> but now i think for a other linux maybe
[07:54] <kidx> i tried to installl the latest driver but i cant get them to install
[07:54] <ikonia> Frank81: fine, ok, we can't help you, you don't want to give informaiton
[07:54] <Frank81> ubuntu is good for desktop
[07:54] <ikonia> Frank81: please stop asking for help unless you are willing to give the information you are being asked for
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> Lanser: still worth checking, torents have good checking :). You could try updating the installer app in the live cd to see if it helps
[07:54] <Frank81> ikonia no problem
[07:55] <devmedooo> hey , 2 supporters not answering me , plzz
[07:55] <dr_willis> i thought wubi was dropped in 13.04
[07:55] <Frank81> i am not going to ask anything about that anymore
[07:55] <Lanser> Frank81: Why are you being dramatic over support channels?
[07:55] <Equinox3> devmedooo: whats the prob
[07:55] <Lanser> ikonia: He's trolling.
[07:55] <devmedooo> i tried install ubuntu 13.04 with the integrated wubi and i have error : " The request is not supported. "
[07:55] <kidx> can any one help me at all
[07:55] <Frank81> Lanser coz i sayed the problem here
[07:55] <Frank81> even made a pastbin
[07:55] <Equinox3> from an iso?
[07:55] <Lanser> apply your question, kidx
[07:55] <ikonia> Lanser: let it go, he's been told not to ask for help unless he's willing to give info
[07:55] <wilee-nilee> !patience > devmedooo
[07:55] <Equinox3> did you extract that iso
[07:55] <ikonia> he wo'nt give info - so won't be allowed to discuss it
[07:56] <devmedooo> ok wilee-niee
[07:56] <devmedooo> nilee^
[07:56] <kidx> I cant get the latest driver working i tried to do it manually but it tells me another driver is installed?
[07:56] <devmedooo> now wubi.exe is in iso file
[07:56] <wilee-nilee> devmedooo, Do you have to install a wubi, it is basically not supported and can be troublesome.
[07:56] <Equinox3> right so you have to either the whole iso file to a folder
[07:57] <Equinox3> or use something like unetbootin to mount iso to a flash drive
[07:57] <devmedooo> so , how can i reun ubuntu alongside ( without losing ) windows 7?
[07:57] <dr_willis> kidx:  remove any other fglrx drivers from the repos first
[07:57] <devmedooo> run^
[07:57] <kidx> how do i dothis
[07:57] <kidx> i am fairly new
[07:57] <kidx> welll to ubuntu
[07:57] <Equinox3> devmedooo: get unetbootin, and a 8gb flash drive. use unetbootin to make a bootable iso
[07:57] <dr_willis> kidx with the addational-drivers tool
[07:58] <wilee-nilee> devmedooo, Make a dvd or usb with the ISO, use the windows disk manager to resize it leaving a unallocated space and install ubuntu there from the booted media
[07:58] <kidx> already did this
[07:58] <Taek> kidx open dash home and type additional
[07:58] <Equinox3> then boot into ubuntu live, and start installation with side by side option
[07:58] <kidx> show none installed
[07:58] <devmedooo> how wilee-nilee??
[07:58] <dr_willis> kidx:  did you reboot?
[07:58] <kidx> yup
[07:58] <dr_willis> no idea then
[07:58] <Equinox3> devmedooo: search for unetbootin
[07:59] <Taek> does it show any drivers in the additional drivers app kidx?
[07:59] <wilee-nilee> devmedooo, I just said how I'm not sure I can be more clear, you might look for more info to get orientated.
[07:59] <kidx> how do i look for that
[07:59] <devmedooo> Equinox3: My Flash Drive Is Bootable with win8 , so i can't add ubuntu.... , is there a way i boot ubuntu from iso file ?
[07:59] <Taek> open the additional drivers app
[08:00] <Taek> dash home -> Additional Drivers
[08:00] <kidx> all i see is three things there
[08:00] <Lionthinker> hi, I have a sync problem for Ubuntu one?
[08:00] <Equinox3> devmedooo: you can't boot from an iso file
[08:00] <Taek> click on each one until the [Activate] button turns to deactivate, then click on the button
[08:00] <kidx> I tried to install the experimental and nothing its out dated casue steam asks for it to be updated
[08:01] <kidx> they are all deactivated
[08:01] <Equinox3> you can create win8 bootable usb later, if you want to run ubuntu you'll have to format it and mount the iso on it
[08:01] <Lionthinker> ubuntu one, sync problem files don't correlate
[08:01] <day> whats exactly the difference between ac'97 and high definition audio? It looks like realtek provides both for the ALC889A
[08:01] <Taek> Not sure then kidx
[08:01] <kidx> ill try again
[08:01] <Equinox3> devmedooo: or burn a cd with the iso
[08:01] <Taek> kidx: Unless you manually installed one prior
[08:02] <devmedooo> equinox3 : with any program?
[08:02] <Equinox3> yes, like poweriso
[08:02] <kidx> ok is the driver on the site upto date
[08:02] <Taek> On the website, yes
[08:02] <kidx> the additional app is not working right drivers are out dated for me
[08:02] <kidx> ill reboot now and try again
[08:03] <Taek> Okay
[08:05] <wilee-nilee> Equinox3, ubuntu wont fit on a cd
[08:06] <Equinox3> wilee-nilee: ah right. DVD :P
[08:06] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[08:06] <Lionthinker> Can someone help me with sync problems of Ubuntu one
[08:07] <dr_willis> Lionthinker:  there is the #ubuntu-one channel    i belive
[08:07] <Taek> I don't use Ubuntu One - I have my own storage system
[08:07] <stub> day: On my motherboard, I select which API the onboard sound uses in the BIOS.
[08:08] <day> stub: oh boy...that might change everything.... i didnt know thats possible :/ i just thought soundcard needs a specific driver done
[08:09] <Lionthinker> dr_willis, there's no one there
[08:10] <Taek> Lionthinker: Sure there is
[08:11] <Lionthinker> taek help..
[08:11] <Taek> Is there a channel for skype
[08:11] <Taek> Lionthinker: I don't use Ubuntu One - I have my own system I use.
[08:11] <Equinox3> should be
[08:11] <Taek> Which is not fully implemented yet.
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> Taek: if you are having issues in skype under ubuntu you can ask here
[08:12] <Lanser> Taek: what is wrong with skype?
[08:12] <Taek> Skype sucks.
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> Lanser: everything :)
[08:12] <dr_willis> other then the fact MS owns it now?
[08:12] <Lanser> ActionParsnip: oh you
[08:12] <Taek> Anyhow, any possible way to hide offline users?
[08:12] <Lanser> dr_willis: oh yes.
[08:12] <Taek> In the skype contact list that is.
[08:12] <Lanser> dr_willis: also, M$ has ganged up with NSA so I wouldn't recommend anyone to use Skype.
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> Taek: http://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Hide-Offline-Contacts/td-p/67920
[08:12] <Equinox3> lol Taek, skype doesn't work on mine. some ia32-lib dependencies cannot be installed
[08:13] <Taek> ActionParsnip: that's why I opted to run 32bit :D
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> Taek: www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJMs4RhrEls
[08:13] <Lanser> 32bit>64bt, Taek.
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> Taek: the 64bit releases are multiarch so it will install, just uses a lot of extra space
[08:13] <Equinox3> why is that Lanser?
[08:13] <Lanser> Equinox3, I'll have Google explain that to you.
[08:13] <ikonia> Lanser: no don't
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> Taek: http://portal2portal.blogspot.co.uk/2010/10/skype-on-linux-hiding-off-line-contacts.html
[08:13] <ikonia> Lanser: you explain it
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> Taek: guess how I am findingall these links.....
[08:14] <Equinox3> 32 bits cannot compile kernels as far as i remember
[08:14] <dr_willis> Equinox3:  huh?
[08:14] <Equinox3> not that i'm compiling.
[08:14] <Lanser> who cares, we have our own opinions.
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> Equinox3: what?
[08:14] <ikonia> Equinox3: it can compile 32bit software, sure
[08:15] <ikonia> Lanser: right - so please keep your random ones out
[08:15] <Lanser> oh alright, ikonia.
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> Equinox3: how do you think the devs make the ubuntu 32bit kernel for updates?
[08:15] <ikonia> Equinox3: why are you compiling kernels ?
[08:15] <ikonia> Equinox3: is there a problem with the one ubuntu provides for you ?
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> People got some weird ideas
[08:17] <Taek> ActionParsnip: none of those work
[08:18] <Taek> that last one worked!
[08:18] <Taek> Ctrl+u while the contacts list is active
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> Taek: again, guess how I was finding those links..?
[08:19] <Lanser> ActionParsnip: What are your thoughts on rape? Should people teach men NOT to rape? or should women protect themselves?
[08:19] <Equinox3> duckduckgo?
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> Equinox3: not this time :)
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> Lanser: that is offtopic here
[08:19] <Lanser> come to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:20] <Taek> ActionParsnip: I did a google search everything I found didn't work, I didn't see that link
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> Taek: search for 'skype hide offline users'
[08:21] <Taek> I didn't want a bunch of mac and windows threads appearing
[08:21] <Taek> I search for "hide offline contacts for skype in linux"
[08:21] <Taek> net some good ones, but none of those worked
[08:32] <day> stub: hm apparently the ac'97 vs hd audio bios setting is just for the fronpanel (they use different connectors, depending on what you want to use)
[08:43] <dorud> I'm wondering what is Quasi? (http://www.quasinetwork.com/quasi-vs-vpn/), I've read the page but could not understand what is, can anybody illustrate it? (it's non-free an supports linux 'n windows)
[08:47] <x98> hi there i was told here to upgrage to 12.04.1 lts to fix my cpu fan error but it hasn't worked
[08:48] <dorud> Is it a proxy app as in Ultrasurf, freegate, Tor, YourFreedom, etc?
[08:50] <x98> my laptop now has overheated
[08:51] <dorud> x98: what is your laptop graphic card?
[08:52] <x98> i don't know much but it is a standard sis one
[08:52] <newky_> Hi. I am trying to copy a large video file from my computer to my phone (attached via a USB cable and mounted as an external drive). I copy and paste the file to the drive and it copies all the way up to the last megabyte or so and then it hangs indefinitely. I've tried everything at my disposal to fix this problem. Pleas ehelp.
[08:52] <dorud> $ sudo lshw -class video
[08:52] <blazemore> newky_: How long does "indefinitely" mean?
[08:53] <newky_> forever, theoretically
[08:53] <NeoKarna> newky_,  same problem here.
[08:53] <blazemore> newky_: I mean, how long did you leave it?
[08:53] <newky_> in the past I have left files copying for hours and nothing changed.
[08:53] <NeoKarna> newky_,  it is  related to permissions.
[08:53] <newky_> and the rest of the file copies over in a few seconds. These are around 100 megabytes ish
[08:53] <dorud> x98: run this command and paste its output to www.paste.ubuntu.com: sudo lshw -class video
[08:54] <newky_> ah, so I have to run Nautilus as root?
[08:54] <newky_> I should mention, I'm using the MATE desktop if that
[08:54] <newky_> If that's relevant information
[08:54] <dorud> newky_: try cp in command line
[08:55] <newky_> will that show an error?
[08:55] <blazemore> newky_: If you're using the mate desktop, you might be using nemo, not nautilus
[08:55] <vedic> Hey guys, I am trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 64bit ISO using unetbootin to my server. I see the UNetbooin menu and tried the default option. It select country, detects keyboard but after that asks for CD. I don't have CD drive working. How to ensure Unetbootin installs from USB stick?
[08:55] <newky_> I want a solution that doesn't involve using the command line.
[08:55] <blazemore> newky_: Oh OK. Good luck then :)
[08:55] <newky_> Also, I checked. It's definitely nautilus. Does mainline Ubuntu still use Nautilus
[08:56] <blazemore> yes
[08:56] <newky_> okay, let me rephrase that
[08:56] <newky_> I'm okay with using the command line to FIX the problem
[08:56] <blazemore> Ahh OK
[08:56] <blazemore> You don't want to have to use the command line forever to copy files to your phone
[08:56] <newky_> I just don't want it to be the only way I can copy files to my phone from here on out
[08:56] <blazemore> Yeah I get you :)
[08:56] <newky_> exactly
[08:56] <newky_> until now, I've just been booting into Win7 to copy things
[08:56] <blazemore> It might be worth using the command line to try copying the file first, to see if it works
[08:56] <newky_> and I'm getting really tired of it
[08:57] <NeoKarna> newky_,  try using nautilus as blazemore  said right now. Because using nautilus didn't work for me.
[08:57] <blazemore> Understandable
[08:57] <dorud> newky_: the video file size?
[08:57] <newky_> I've been using nautilus
[08:57] <newky_> uh, let's see here, dorud
[08:57] <newky_> 428 MBs.
[08:57] <newky_> but it happens with smaller videos too
[08:58] <newky_> last video was 184 MBs
[08:58] <dorud> this is not a large file
[08:58] <newky_> indeed
[08:58] <newky_> like I said, it copies over and then it hangs on the last megabyte or so
[08:58] <newky_> and the copying window just sits there
[08:58] <Recku> hello!
[08:59] <blazemore> newky_: It'd definitely be useful to try using the "cp" program from the command line. Do you know how to do that?
[08:59] <newky_> yep
[08:59] <NeoKarna> newky_,  please try copying using nautilus right now. See if that works.
[08:59] <dorud> please try cp, if it works, it's nautilus problem, if not, it's a system problem!
[08:59] <newky_> hang on a minute
[08:59] <blazemore> OK well try it, and see what happens
[08:59] <newky_> NeoKarna: I already used nautilus. The problem is happening when I use Nautilus.
[08:59] <blazemore> It's more a matter of, it probably will do the same thing, but might give an error
[09:00] <newky_> right, troubleshooting
[09:00] <NeoKarna> newky_,  I had the very same problem too ! I searched like hell on the internet but no results ! Try using cp as blazemore  suggests
[09:01] <newky_> okay, working on it
[09:01] <dorud> newky_: 1. test it by cp 2. run nautilus and copy it normally, view the terminal output
[09:01] <newky_> I just noticed a new problem
[09:01] <newky_> I was trying to copy a text file from my desktop to my phone, but it won't let me copy from my desktop at all
[09:01] <dorud> *2. run nautilus from terminal ...
[09:01] <newky_> well, nevermind, different problem
[09:02] <newky_> okay yeah
[09:02] <Recku> Can I force override to usb modem's integrated memory so I can put inside
[09:02] <Recku> the ubuntu's driver package (the modem is MW-U3500 - WiMax) - to avoid moving additional flash drive with me every time I'm trying to use the modem on Ubuntu Machine
[09:03] <newky_> this only seems to affect the larger movie files. The text file copied fine
[09:03] <newky_> anyway, trying the cp command now
[09:04] <dorud> newky_: and also try running nautilus from terminal; report here
[09:04] <newky_> dorud: gotcha
[09:05] <newky_> cp command seems to be working
[09:05] <newky_> it's still copying
[09:05] <newky_> taking a while to copy, that's worrying
[09:06] <newky_> nope, still hanging on the last MB. Same problem
[09:07] <Recku> newky, do you have write permissions
[09:07] <newky_> correction
[09:07] <dorud> newky_: what is your phone? what is its system file? may you check the video permissions?
[09:07] <newky_> it seems to have copied the whole file, but it will not play
[09:07] <newky_> write permissions for what?
[09:07] <Recku> for phone device
[09:07] <newky_> I have a Droid Razr
[09:07] <dorud> both for phon and the file
[09:07] <newky_> file system is FAT
[09:08] <newky_> I'm guessing FAT32?
[09:08] <dorud> the video file permission?
[09:08] <newky_> wouldn't that throw some kind of "nope, wrong permissions" error?
[09:09] <newky_> read and write for me
[09:09] <NeoKarna> newky_, yeah !
[09:09] <newky_> but it says read only for the "group permissions". I'm a noob with permissions.
[09:09] <Recku> group doesn't matters when your user have full permissions
[09:09] <Recku> I suppose it has
[09:10] <newky_> okay
[09:10] <newky_> I have a feeling it's not a permission error. I just feel like it'd give an error before it even copied the file
[09:10] <dorud> be sure it's not excutable.
[09:11] <newky_> by the way, cp sort of worked, but it hung too. It seems to have copied the whole file, judging by the file size, but the file I copied to my phone is unreadable
[09:11] <Recku> can you try to make an empty file in the phone
[09:11] <newky_> unplayable rather
[09:11] <newky_> I copied a text file to it earlier. This is only happening with the video files
[09:11] <Recku> try with 'touch test.txt'
[09:11] <snuggl> isnt it just the usb write-ahead that takes a while to write all bytes?
[09:12] <newky_> it worked
[09:12] <snuggl> how long did you wait?
[09:12] <newky_> I can create files on the drive
[09:12] <newky_> In the past when I've had this problem, I have waited hours and hours and it didn't finish. It should only take a few seconds to copy a file of this size.
[09:12] <Recku> what's the size of the video file
[09:12] <dorud> newky_: for the current time, zip the video and copy it on your droid phone, extract it.
[09:12] <snuggl> newky_: add the sync option to fstab can solve it
[09:13] <newky_> Recku: 428 MB
[09:13] <snuggl> newky_: then it will behave like windows, including the corruption on fail =)
[09:13] <newky_> dorud: I will try that
[09:13] <Recku> do you have smaller file to check if it works
[09:13] <newky_> snuggl: why would I want that? :P
[09:14] <snuggl> newky_: windows is set to write in real time, so the copy process is in sync with what you see in your UI
[09:14] <fishcooker> i have ubuntu 10.04 netbook version
[09:14] <snuggl> then you will see the actual end time of the copy, not just when the OS has queued the writes.
[09:15] <Recku> snuggl is right
[09:15] <NeoKarna> newky_,  please post your question in askubuntu too. This is a common problem. Ubuntu is not so good with phones I guess.
[09:15] <dorud> newky_: I think it's a mounting problem! may mount it manually somewhere else?!
[09:15] <fishcooker> how to strip down the size .. because i want to modify the from gui to commandline only
[09:15] <dorud> *may you
[09:15] <snuggl> fishcooker: use apt-get to remove the packages you dont want
[09:15] <newky_> hm, Perhaps I should just take the SD card out of my phone and put it into my machines card reader...
[09:15] <snuggl> or the software GUI thingie
[09:16] <fishcooker> esp the gui one snuggl
[09:16] <NeoKarna> newky_,  I used a different phone to do the job but that didn't work for me. Hope it works for you !
[09:16] <fishcooker> any pointer?
[09:16] <snuggl> fishcooker: any pointer for what?
[09:16] <snuggl> fishcooker: just remove the ones you dont want
[09:16] <fishcooker> the package?
[09:16] <newky_> also, I zipped the file and tried to copy it. Same problem, except it's hanging much earlier. at 386 MBs ouot of 427
[09:17] <snuggl> fishcooker: remove _all_ packages you dont want
[09:17] <fishcooker> TT
[09:17] <snuggl> fishcooker: all the graphical ones
[09:17] <Recku> newky, how do you mount the phone
[09:17] <snuggl> fishcooker: start with X and see what goes with it
[09:17] <fishcooker> that's it snuggl
[09:17] <newky_> whoa. Seems to have resolved. I think that might have worked
[09:17] <newky_> still no reason it shoudl take tha tlong
[09:18] <fishcooker> i just want to make sure it will be safe snuggl and fast
[09:18] <snuggl> newky_: check dmesg for errors
[09:18] <snuggl> that slow might be the USB controller dropping to 1.0
[09:18] <newky_> Recku: I just plug the phone into my computer with a cable and let it automount
[09:18] <snuggl> just type "dmesg" in a console
[09:18] <snuggl> and look for suspicious USB things
[09:18] <newky_> snuggl: no, it's not. It copies the rest of the file at normal speed and then it hangs at a certain point close to the end.
[09:18] <Recku> MTP doesn't allow to write just as that easily
[09:19] <Recku> your phone is with android right?
[09:19] <snuggl> newky_: thats no reason not to check the error log
[09:19] <newky_> Droid Razr
[09:19] <newky_> Recku: yes
[09:19] <superman> is there software that allows you to copy contacts from your android phone?
[09:19] <newky_> snuggl: I was saying that at your suggestion that it might be dropping to USB 1
[09:20] <Recku> so you have to use google's development of MTP client just wait for a while to find it out
[09:20] <newky_> ah, what does that mean?
[09:20] <dr_willis> you can export your contacts to a file on android.
[09:21] <xmetal> hmm
[09:21] <nono> how can i search expressions like {P} on google? or other searche engines?
[09:21] <dr_willis> i use airdroid on my android phones. faster for me than a  usb csble
[09:22] <Recku> newky, try gMTP it works with earlier versions of android as I don't know which is used in your situations
[09:22] <Recku> *situation
[09:22] <newky_> I have android 4.1 on my phone
[09:23] <newky_> what exactly is gMTP and how do I use it?
[09:23] <dr_willis> !mtp
[09:23] <newky_> also, I tried to copy the file using nautilus running in root and it has the same problem
[09:23] <dr_willis> newer android phones show up as mtp devices.
[09:23] <superman> is the min specs for Ubuntu 1GHz and 1GB of RAM?
[09:24] <dr_willis> mtp support is still a bit of a  work in progress for linux
[09:24] <newky_> ah, okay
[09:24] <newky_> out of curiosity and scholarly interest, what exactly is MTP?
[09:24] <dr_willis> easiest way to get files to/from your android device is to install airdroid on the android device and use the wireless networking and your local network router.
[09:24] <Hejkki_> media transfer protocol
[09:24] <dr_willis> somthing transport protacal
[09:24] <dr_willis> ;)
[09:25] <newky_> mobile?
[09:25] <Recku> gMTP is a client for transferring file between your PC and Phone's, tablet's or whatsoever MTP device
[09:25] <dr_willis> look itup on wikipedia perhaps?
[09:25] <newky_> Must be somewhere on the USB stack.
[09:25] <dr_willis> ;)
[09:25] <superman> in the past Linux users use to call Windows XP bloated even though it could run on a Pentium 2 lol
[09:26] <newky_> Ah, I remember the days when XP was bloated. It's a fairly lightweight system on todays computers!
[09:26] <newky_> anyway, I'll try that
[09:26] <newky_> if that doesn't work, then I guess I'll just take the SD card out and put it in my PC.
[09:26] <dr_willis> XP is still bloated.
[09:27] <dr_willis> newky_:  or try airdroid like i suggested
[09:27] <dr_willis> USB cable transfers seem to suck whenever i try them
[09:27] <newky_> I'll look into it. Thanks for the idea.
[09:27] <newky_> anywho. Thanks for your help everyone
[09:28] <Recku> dr_willis there is a google's project for easier transfer to mtp based memory
[09:28] <dr_willis> Recku:  i havent even been trying to use mtp since ive started using airdroid. ;)
[09:28] <Recku> and all you have to do with their client is to mount the device and then just use nautilus but i forgot the name
[09:29] <dr_willis> theres scripts out to mount mtp devices and so forth..  but i dont bother with them any moar.
[09:30] <Recku> ok here it is
[09:30] <Recku> Go-mtpfs
[09:30] <newky_> what's that?
[09:30] <dr_willis> a gui tool for  mounting mtp devices
[09:31] <Recku> newky, look up here http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/how-to-mount-android-40-ubuntu-go-mtpfs.html
[09:31] <newky_> thank you
[09:31] <dr_willis> that guide is a little out of date. so may not be 100% accurate for the newer releases
[09:32] <Hejkki_> internet is out of date
[09:32] <Hejkki_> most of the information there
[09:32] <dr_willis> or if  you got a wireless router your phone and pc both connect to, theres dozens of ways to transfer stuff over wireless
[09:33] <Lanser> Life is like a box of......rm -rf / commands.
[09:33] <jpds> Lanser: No.
[09:33] <dr_willis> that command dosent really work any more  (as written) these days. ;P
[09:34] <Recku> ok guys I've question now :D
[09:34] <Recku> Is there a way to force writing over write protected internal memory (it's about usb modem)
[09:34] <dr_willis> a USB 3g modem?
[09:34] <Recku> 4g modem but yes simmilar
[09:35] <Recku> the model is mw-u3500
[09:35] <dr_willis> if its physically write protected. i would doubt it
[09:35] <Recku> All I want is to insert linux driver package
[09:35] <dr_willis> it could also be presenting the storage as a cdrom device
[09:35] <Recku> with root privileges doesn't work
[09:36] <Recku> yes that's how it presents it
[09:36] <dr_willis> the u3 usb fllash drives used that trick ages ago..  they were specially partioned.
[09:37] <Recku> one volume as Audio cd and other volume as USB storage
[09:38] <sanne> hi
[09:38] <Recku> so can I around that trick
[09:38] <bhalash> I hated those U3 pen drives with a passion.
[09:38] <dr_willis> i UN-U3'd many of them in the past
[09:38] <bhalash> I want to store data, not mess with hidden crapware. Aye, I did the same. Didn't stop people buying them though. :p
[09:39] <sanne> hello
[09:39] <sanne> hello
[09:39] <dr_willis> most people i knew dident even know what the u3 stuff was..
[09:40] <bhalash> They started to figure out when the software autoran when they plugged it in. It was a good intro to Linux, actually. I showed them how to find and destroy the partition using fdisk and other tools.
[09:41] <Recku> dr_willis, how I can reformat the USB mass storage volume
[09:41] <dr_willis> Recku:  no idea. it may destroy it if you try
[09:41] <dr_willis> Recku:  see if fdisk can partion it...
[09:42] <dr_willis> if its physically write protected.. you may not even be able to fdisk it
[09:42] <bhalash> What does fdisk -l /dev/whatever say?
[09:42] <Recku> well I wouldn't lost anything the device will still works --- just without the windows driver :D
[09:42] <Recku> inside the memory
[09:42] <Recku> I've already tried with fdisk
[09:42] <dr_willis> Recku:  you are assuming fdisk wont destroy it.. it might..
[09:42] <bhalash> Recku
[09:43] <bhalash> Plug in the disk and do dmesg | grep Protect
[09:43] <dr_willis> if fdisk cant write to it. then i would say its got a physical switch on it.
[09:43] <bhalash> It will let you know if it is write protected
[09:43] <Recku> yes, bhalash
[09:44] <bhalash> You can use hdparm to /maybe/ turn it off
[09:44] <bhalash> hdparm -r0 /dev/whatever
[09:44] <Recku> hdparm or sdparm?
[09:45] <bhalash> sdparm or hdparm as appropriate :)
[09:45] <Recku> ok I'll check with that :)
[09:46] <Aaruni> is it just me, or is Ubuntu 12.04 64bit quite unstable ?
[09:46] <bhalash> I've had no problems whatsoever.
[09:46] <bhalash> What kind of instability?
[09:46] <fox__> Hello. I had some issues with 12.04 actually too.
[09:46] <nono> is anyone able to get any result for any search on this site? http://www.symbolhound.com/
[09:47] <k1l> !ot | nono
[09:47] <Aaruni> bhalash: it randomly hangs, and is somewhat slower than the 32bit version I have got running on another machine
[09:47] <nono> k1l: maybe it's an ubuntu issue, because apparently it's working fine on windows
[09:47] <fox__> Yeah.
[09:48] <fox__> okay, first off.. can anyone even read my text?
[09:48] <Aaruni> fox__: yeah, you're visible
[09:48] <fox__> Thanks, I've been in and out of a few rooms and no one's replied at all.
[09:48] <dr_willis>   if we say no..  ;-)
[09:48] <bhalash> That could be one of a host of problems. I had some driver problems early on (Nvidia Optimus) that caused hands, but it was eventually ironed out. Performance and stability has been fine for me since. Been using Ubuntu 64-bit for ~18 months now.
[09:49] <Baribal> Hi. In the contexts of RAID, what is a degraded drive?
[09:49] <bhalash> Who is fox__? Did fox__ say something? I can't see.
[09:49] <Aaruni> bhalash: I'm using on a new HP machine, radeon graphics.
[09:49] <joseph_> show entries to add solivitacap.org as virtual host to unbuntu 13.10 apache2...localhost show correct test page..trying to go to solivitacap.org times out.trying to reach my server
[09:49] <dr_willis> you are running 13.10 on it?
[09:50] <joseph_> yes
[09:50] <fox__> I've had such a headache with 12.04 both 64bit and 32. Random hangs and apport going nuts apparently reporting it's self to it's self.
[09:50] <bhalash> Aaruni, do you have a spare machine? Does the 64-bit machine keep locking?
[09:51] <Aaruni> bhalash: I have another Dell, with 32bit on it, and no spare partition
[09:51] <bhalash> It is a kernel-panic-oh-shit-reboot crash, or a silently-lock-up crash?
[09:51] <jatt> random hangs->hardware problems most of the time
[09:51] <Aaruni> bhalash: I think XORG crashes. because its working fine, and then suddenly, it stops working. I then need to pull the plug (or because its  a laptop, long press the power key)
[09:52] <jatt> bad memory, overheating
[09:52] <bhalash> That sounds like a driver problem. Interesting way to fix it: SSH in from another machine and see if the locked up machine responds.
[09:52] <Aaruni> jatt: none of that. new laptop. barely a week old
[09:52] <bhalash> Test memory too
[09:52] <bhalash> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash
[09:53] <Aaruni> bhalash: that's a nice way to test it. but I will have to first install ssh server, right? sudo apt-get install sshd ?
[09:53] <eli> hi
[09:53] <bhalash> apt-get install openssh-server
[09:53] <fox__> 13.04 works better for me now. I just keep getting this message telling me a problem was detected.
[09:53] <Guest29840> I'm new to linux
[09:53] <Aaruni> ok, back after reboot, just installed some updates.
[09:53] <Guest29840> I have problem with gparted
[09:53] <Guest29840> anyone can help me?
[09:54] <bhalash> What's the problem, Guest29840?
[09:54] <Guest29840> I wanna create a logical partition
[09:54] <Guest29840> when I check the partitions in gparted
[09:55] <bhalash> Aaruni, if you SSH in and the machine responds fine, it probably is a video driver issue. They are usually the culprit.
[09:55] <Guest29840> I get error icon near extended partition
[09:55] <bhalash> I wound up installing a SSH client on my iPhone while I was solving my own problem. :D
[09:56] <joseph_> need help adding virtual host domain solivitacap.org to ubuntu server 13.10 apache2 server
[09:56] <bhalash> Guest29840, Have you tried using fdisk directly?
[09:56] <Guest29840> I wanna use fdisk
[09:57] <Guest29840> but I think there is some warnings with extended partition
[09:57] <bhalash> Well. Can you do me a favour and run fdisk -l and drop the output into paste.ununtu.com?
[09:57] <Guest29840> yeah just a min
[09:57] <blazemore> How can I use head/tail to get all but the first line of a file?
[09:58] <bhalash> All /but/ the first line?
[09:58] <bhalash> cat file | head | tail -n 9
[09:58] <blazemore> Yes
[09:58] <blazemore> err no
[10:00] <dr_willis> cat and tail have  options for that
[10:00] <nibbler_> blazemore: sed would be the tool of choice i believe
[10:00] <dr_willis> like ±1
[10:00] <Guest29840> can I pm u bhalash?
[10:00] <blazemore> Got it - tail -n+2
[10:02] <nibbler_> blazemore: sed '1d' < file
[10:03] <blazemore> Even better nibbler_ :)
[10:03] <joseph_> need help adding virtual host domain solivitacap.org to ubuntu server 13.10 apache2 server
[10:05] <blazemore> Is there a better way to add up the total space used across all filesystems than df | tail -n+2 | awk '{s+=$3} END {print s}'
[10:05] <blazemore> I feel like there ought to be
[10:11] <arun_> my hardrives are not shown in terminals, what to do?
[10:12] <arun_> somone help me
[10:12] <bhalash> arun_ More information please.
[10:12] <arun_> my hard drive is not shown in terminals
[10:13] <arun_> im using xbuntu
[10:13] <arun_> i can access all my partitions
[10:14] <auronandace> arun_: what exactly are you doing to try to see your harddrives in the terminal?
[10:14] <bhalash> ^
[10:15] <arun_> i want to give permission to other users
[10:15] <arun_> to access my partitions
[10:16] <auronandace> !fstab | arun_
[10:16] <nibbler_> arun: sudo fdisk -l
[10:16] <arun_> what will it do?
[10:16] <bhalash> It will list your partitions
[10:17] <arun_> i want give permission to a user
[10:17] <nibbler_> blazemore: your solution to the df problem looks very good to me, i doubt there is anything better
[10:18] <nibbler_> blazemore: maybe df --total is better :p
[10:19] <varunendra> arun_, permissions are set on the mount points. To see the mount points, use the command : mount | grep '/dev/sd'
[10:20] <vadrao> Hi all, I have two battery's. One built in and the other Slice battery. Ubuntu first drains the Slice battery which is ofcourse the default behavior. But after it drains the Slice battery, it says that battery has reached critical state and shutdowns the computer. It does not use the builtin battery. How can remedy this?
[10:20] <varunendra> arun_, it will show only those partitions that are mounted. If the desired partition is not mounted, you will need to mount it first (partitions included in fstab are automatically mounted at startup)
[10:20] <arun_> i cannot identify which are mounted
[10:21] <arun_> but i can access all of my drives
[10:21] <bhalash> cat /etc/mtab
[10:21] <varunendra> arun_, can you access the partitions (their contents) which you wish to grant permissions on?
[10:21] <varunendra> arun_, are you able to access them right now?
[10:22] <arun_> yes
[10:22] <arun_> varunendra, i wish to grant access to named new volume
[10:23] <varunendra> arun_, please give us the pastebin link to the output of : mount | grep '/dev/sd'
[10:23] <arun_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5890340/
[10:23] <arun_> i will give wait
[10:24] <arun_> i think i gave, right
[10:24] <blazemore> nibbler_: derp
[10:25] <arun_> varun, did u saw the link?
[10:25] <varunendra> arun_, what kind of permissions do you wish to grant on that mount point?
[10:26] <arun_> i wish to give 2 partition to read write
[10:26] <LucidDreamZzZz> THANK U VALVE!!
[10:26] <arun_> to all users
[10:26] <LucidDreamZzZz> fixed tf2
[10:26] <Hejkki_>  
[10:27] <varunendra> arun_, permanently? Means on every boot?
[10:27] <arun_> yes
[10:28] <varunendra> !fstab | arun_ then read the guide on fstab :
[10:29] <joshu> hi if anyone is familiar with lightdm and ubuntu mini and has time to help me with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2163132 please let me know ;)
[10:30] <varunendra> arun_, basically, you need to add entries for these mount points/partitions in the /etc/fstab file, with appropriate permissions/masks. The guide will show you in detail how to do that.
[10:30] <arun_> thanks varun
[10:31] <arun_> thanks ubottu
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> joshu: have you tried other DMs?
[10:31] <varunendra> no problem  ! :)
[10:31] <joshu> ActionParsnip DMs?
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> joshu: instead of lightdm.....
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> joshu: gdm? xdm? slim?
[10:32] <blazemore> mdm \o/
[10:33] <joshu> ActionParsnip I haven't tried no. I'm looking for help with the whole thing not just the DM whether it be lightdm or something else.
[10:34] <SDIS> not familiar soory
[10:34] <SDIS> sorry
[10:35] <blazemore> joshu: Keep lightdm installed, install  a super lightweight WM like Openbox. Let network manager handle your multiple connections and VPN.
[10:35] <LucidDreamZzZz> haha someone saying linux is easier for noobs than ever
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> LucidDreamZzZz: it is, back in the day it was not so simple as it is now
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> LucidDreamZzZz: same with windows
[10:36] <LucidDreamZzZz> it just keeps getting more complex and bloaty
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> LucidDreamZzZz: bloat is nothing to do with ease of use
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> LucidDreamZzZz: is it?
[10:37] <blazemore> Ignore him ActionParsnip
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: I have time :)
[10:37] <LucidDreamZzZz> 'back int he day' there was next step (macos x) running stabily on Redhat (free)
[10:37] <blazemore> You know why he's in here, I know why he's in here
[10:37] <LucidDreamZzZz> it was always easy
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> LucidDreamZzZz: for the average user, not so easy
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> LucidDreamZzZz: although, depends when your 'back in the day' is. I'm talking 2002/3
[10:38] <LucidDreamZzZz> if redhat wasnt easy enough there was mandrake or debian
[10:38] <LucidDreamZzZz> just saying how many ways are there now to start x?
[10:38] <LucidDreamZzZz> lol
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> LucidDreamZzZz: ever had to compile a kernel to make your CD burner work?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> LucidDreamZzZz: cos I have
[10:39] <LucidDreamZzZz> another point you make for me, i wouldnt spend time rolling my own kernel these days
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> LucidDreamZzZz: I'm sure thats super easy for teh guy on the street, right?
[10:39] <LucidDreamZzZz> its too damn complicated now
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> LucidDreamZzZz: you HAD to to make some hardware work
[10:39] <blazemore> LucidDreamZzZz: I've seen desktop Linux improve leaps and bounds over the last 10 years in terms of hardware compatibility, usability, and general out-of-the-box experience
[10:40] <LucidDreamZzZz> i used to build gento stage 1 box or roll my opwn, whatever
[10:40] <joshu> blazemore so starting with ubuntu mini is a good idea?
[10:40] <vadrao> Hi all, I have two battery's. One built in and the other Slice battery. Ubuntu first drains the Slice battery which is ofcourse the default behavior. But after it drains the Slice battery, it says that battery has reached critical state and shutdowns the computer. It does not use the builtin battery. How can remedy this?
[10:40] <LucidDreamZzZz> now gentoo doesnt even offer stage 1 and nobody rolls their own unless they absoolutely have to
[10:41] <blazemore> vadrao: One thing to do would be to stop Ubuntu from shutting down / hibernating your computer on low battery. You can do this in power options
[10:41] <LucidDreamZzZz> the only thing is yes hardware support is marginally better, nobody ever built without checking hardware compatibility list
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> LucidDreamZzZz: Gentoo stage1 instals arent supported now, or advised
[10:41] <LucidDreamZzZz> so thats a non-issue
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> LucidDreamZzZz: it was though, now its a whole tonne easier
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> LucidDreamZzZz: which you said is not the case and it was always easy.
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> LucidDreamZzZz: right>
[10:43] <blazemore> LucidDreamZzZz: Do you have an Ubuntu related support question?
[10:43] <LucidDreamZzZz> the other thing is there is a web browser that is stable, that was something that was lacking in Linux you almost had to use IE 4 to use the Internet
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> LucidDreamZzZz: you haven't answer my simple question
[10:43] <LucidDreamZzZz> and that is no lie
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> LucidDreamZzZz: or blazemore's
[10:44] <LucidDreamZzZz> yeah it hasnt gotten any simpler
[10:44] <LucidDreamZzZz> that question?
[10:44] <vadrao> blazemore: In that case it shows this red empty battery on the top right hand corner. Simple things like this should be seemless
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> LucidDreamZzZz: but it really has, 'normal' users can install and use Ubuntu with minimal issue, lots of hardware works out of the box. I have given you examples of how this is the case
[10:45] <blazemore> vadrao: It's not particularly simple; a dual battery configuration can't necessarily be expected to work out the box. What specific model of laptop is it?
[10:45] <LucidDreamZzZz> i mean really i still have to set up a xorg.conf????
[10:45] <LucidDreamZzZz> ok whatever its easier now
[10:45] <LucidDreamZzZz> :)
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> LucidDreamZzZz: the kernel has come in leaps and bounds and companies are starting to make Linux drivers which were not around previously
[10:46] <blazemore> LucidDreamZzZz: I haven't touched my xorg.conf for 3 years
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> LucidDreamZzZz: then your screen is not reporting EDID as it should, or is reporting it wrong
[10:46] <vadrao> blazemore: Its the latest Sony Vaio Duo 11 ultrabook which is a Slider
[10:46] <LucidDreamZzZz> kernel is (very) monolithic
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> LucidDreamZzZz: the screen should reports its access and udev will setup the screen on the fly, if your doesn't then xorg.conf is needed
[10:46] <blazemore> vadrao: Do you have a model number?
[10:47] <blazemore> LucidDreamZzZz: You read that on the Internet somewhere and you are like "omg monolithic = bloat = A Bad Thing"
[10:47] <vadrao> Yes
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> LucidDreamZzZz: I need one myself as my res goes insanely tiny with a very high DPI, so I have to setup the screen
[10:47] <blazemore> LucidDreamZzZz: Do you know what it means for a kernel to be "monolithic"? It's not a derogatory term...
[10:47] <vadrao> blazemore: The model number is SVD1121C5EB
[10:47] <LucidDreamZzZz> sometimes i still need that file for monitor settings, xrandr having 3 totally different versions doesnt help much as i have no clue how to use them anymore as it melted my brain
[10:47] <k1l> LucidDreamZzZz: do you have an actual technical ubuntu issue? this is not the channel for general chatter (or ranting)
[10:48] <LucidDreamZzZz> ik i was probably using monolithic duall meaning other menaing is large??
[10:48] <LucidDreamZzZz> that could be wrong checking websters
[10:49] <Gilligan94_> how can i get wine 1.6?
[10:49] <LucidDreamZzZz> no not really i am just glad Ubuntu has steam and updated drivers, thank you!
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> LucidDreamZzZz: again, its your screen
[10:49] <ikonia> Gilligan94_: it's not in the stable ubuntu repos, you'd need to use a 3rd party repo - but use it at your own risk
[10:49] <blazemore> vadrao: I believe it's not currently supported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-power/+bug/880881
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Gilligan94_: try the wine ppa
[10:49] <blazemore> vadrao: But as a workaround, you can stop it from shutting itsself down
[10:49] <blazemore> vadrao: You might just have to live with the incorrect battery indicator :\
[10:49] <Gilligan94_> ActionParsnip: I have the wine ppa installed but for some reason it just installs 1.4.1
[10:50] <blazemore> Gilligan94_: Is Wine 1.6 in the repository yet?
[10:50] <Gilligan94_> blazemore: not sure
[10:50] <blazemore> Gilligan94_: It is... try running apt-get update first
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> Gilligan94_: did you check the versiojn on the PPA?
[10:50] <blazemore> Gilligan94_: sudo apt-get install wine1.6
[10:51] <vadrao> blazemore: Thanks for letting me know about that bug. I will check it out and it looks like I have to live with that until a solution is foun
[10:51] <blazemore> Gilligan94_: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=raring
[10:51] <Aaruni> bhalash: back after update. my wi-fi driver broke, that took a long time to fix..
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> Gilligan94_: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[10:51] <Gilligan94_> ActionParsnip: elementary OS Luna \n \l
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> Gilligan94_: not supported here
[10:52] <Gilligan94_> blazemore: I have that PPA added
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Gilligan94_: this is ubuntu suport
[10:52] <Gilligan94_> I'm aware
[10:52] <joshu> I'm willing to pay for help if someone is interested in helping me with my custom ubuntu setup
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Gilligan94_: then why are you asking here
[10:52] <k1l> Gilligan94_: then talk to the elementary support how to get wine 1.6
[10:52] <ikonia> joshu: don't need to pay, just ask and if people can help they will
[10:52] <LucidDreamZzZz> yes according to websters monolithic means HUGE or MASSIVE
[10:52] <Aaruni> joshu: lol ? I'll help you for free, if I can
[10:52] <bhalash> Aaruni: Make sure you set up a SSH server too so you can still get in if it locks.
[10:52] <k1l> !ot | LucidDreamZzZz
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Gilligan94_: elementary support is entirely separate from Ubuntu's. Just like every other 'ubuntu based' distro you can name
[10:53] <greyhatpython> hey guys i installed a game called Stunt Rally from Playdeb.net now i want to uninstall it since my onboard intel graphic Card is not supporting it. How to uninstall it?
[10:53] <Aaruni> bhalash: doing that now
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> greyhatpython: use software centre
[10:53] <blazemore> greyhatpython: Open the Ubuntu Software Centre, search for Stunt Rally
[10:53] <greyhatpython> The Software Center is showing not found for that name.
[10:53] <k1l> joshu: provide some details. no need for paying in here
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> greyhatpython: playdeb is just another repo and installing from it and uninstalling apps from it is no different to the apps from the official repos
[10:53] <ikonia> probably because you installed it with dpkg -i
[10:53] <joshu> ikonia Aaruni hi guys instead of putting everything here I posted on ubuntuforums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2163132
[10:54] <greyhatpython> Yes but the ubuntu software center is not showing it
[10:54] <bugtraq> good
[10:54] <blazemore> greyhatpython: How did you install it?
[10:54] <greyhatpython> I am sure it's in my system i don't know where to locate and how to uninstall
[10:54] <blazemore> greyhatpython: How you uninstall it depends completely on how you installed it
[10:54] <greyhatpython> I installed via ubuntu software center from the apt link i got from playdeb.net
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> greyhatpython: if you run:  dpkg -l | egrep -i 'stunt|rally'    you will see the package name
[10:55] <ikonia> joshu: you can do that with a standard ubuntu install and a startup script
[10:55] <blazemore> Did you download a .deb file?
[10:55] <blazemore> greyhatpython: ^
[10:55] <hamed> I have question about mpich2!
[10:56] <blazemore> joshu: Your setup isn't nearly as complicated as you think it is. Network Manager handles your network config for you, and then you can just run an rdp client on startup after a short delay
[10:56] <greyhatpython> Ok i got this output : ii  stuntrally                                2.0-1~getdeb2~quantal                  i386         Rally game with stunt elements
[10:56] <greyhatpython> ii  stuntrally-data                           2.0-1~getdeb2~quantal                  all          Rally game with stunt elements (data package)
[10:56] <greyhatpython> ii  stuntrally-tracks                         2.0-1~getdeb1                          all          Rally game with stunt elements (tracks package)
[10:56] <ikonia> joshu: looks pretty ill thought out though
[10:56] <blazemore> !ask | hamed what is your question?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> greyhatpython: sudo apt-get --purge remove stuntrally stuntrally-data stuntrally-tracks
[10:56] <Aaruni> joshu: sorry, I can't help you there..
[10:57] <joshu> Aaruni no worries thanks ;)
[10:57] <greyhatpython> ok i will try but explain me the command how you got it?
[10:58] <hamed> I install mpich2 and mpich3 on my system.  I have error symbol missing after run the my mpi program
[10:58] <greyhatpython> ok i got it it's the package name you said to remove
[10:58] <joshu> ikonia how's it "ill thought out"? what would you do?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> greyhatpython: read your own output, then read the commadn I gave
[10:59] <ikonia> joshu: bottom line, you can do what you want with a standard ubuntu install and some login / startup scripts
[10:59] <greyhatpython> understood!!!!
[10:59] <greyhatpython> Thanks a lot ActionParsnip
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> greyhatpython: np man
[11:01] <hamed> I think installing mpich2 and mpich3 same time is problem and I want to remove them completely; but I can't!!
[11:01] <Aaruni> hamed: sudo apt-get purge ?
[11:02] <joshu> ikonia I understand but in terms of keeping the system minimal as the OS itself will just be a thin client then using a standard install is too much, no?
[11:03] <hamed> I didn't get it: sudo apt-get purge ? Please explain more!?
[11:04] <Aaruni> hamed: sudo apt-get purge <package_name>
[11:04] <Aaruni> removes packages, and their configuration files
[11:04] <hamed> I make them from source code
[11:04] <Aaruni> oh, then I don't know
[11:05] <jpds> hamed: Right, then the package manager isn't going to help and you'll have to do it by hand.
[11:06] <hamed> But How? where is the paths of mpich* ? Because there are many *mpi* file in my /usr dir.
[11:07] <jpds> hamed: That's something we can't help with.
[11:07] <harry>  /nick entertainer0815
[11:07] <harry> -.-
[11:07] <hamed> Thanks
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> harry: without the leading space
[11:08] <entertainer0815> yeah I know thx ActionParsnip
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> entertainer0815: np :)
[11:09] <snpresent> hello,there
[11:12] <entertainer0815> Hey can somebody help me with my printer? I try to load a ppd unter settings. My Windowmanager is gnome. But everytime when I save the settings nothing is changed
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> entertainer0815: what printer?
[11:13] <entertainer0815> Brother DCP-J315W
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> entertainer0815: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[11:13] <ikonia> joshu: I think you need to think about what you believe a thin client actually is
[11:13] <entertainer0815> Ubuntu 13.04
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> entertainer0815: did you check the Brother website for driver deb files, they do make them...
[11:14] <entertainer0815> yeah I have installed drivers
[11:14] <entertainer0815> the ppd is in /etc/cups/ppd/
[11:15] <entertainer0815> the GTK-GUI for the printer settings don't work. I tried to load the right ppd but nothing happens
[11:15] <entertainer0815> so can i do this in terminal too?
[11:15] <entertainer0815> I must just change the path to the ppd
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> entertainer0815: http://pastie.org/8155359
[11:16] <entertainer0815> ActionParsnip, I did this ...
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> entertainer0815: if you delete the printer from Ubuntu and power off the printer, then reboot and have the printer attached, it should pickup
[11:17] <entertainer0815> ah ok
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> entertainer0815: if not then use:  http://localhost:631  and add it there
[11:17] <entertainer0815> let me try this
[11:18] <salty-horse> hey. I moved my hard drive (the one I boot from) to a new machine. now kswapd takes 100% cpu for long periods of time. it did not happen on the old machine. any idea what could be the cause and how to fix it?
[11:18] <joshu> ikonia I think I understand what a thin client is as I've worked with wyse thin clients. But creating a solution myself is what I'm trying to do and although I understand that I can just do a standard install of ubuntu on a laptop and create some scripts, it's not exactly what I want.
[11:19] <ikonia> joshu: yes, and a wyse system is nothing like what you are suggesting
[11:19] <ikonia> joshu: have you looked at something like lubuntu ?
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> or xpud
[11:20] <ikonia> joshu: haveyou looked at ltsp ?
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> or puppy
[11:20] <ikonia> puppy ?
[11:20] <ikonia> what has that got to do with it ?
[11:21] <joshu> ikonia a wyse system with WTOS allows remote updating, shadowing, configuration, automatic vpn, all but using usb modems
[11:21] <ikonia> joshu: I think ltsp would probably tick at least %70 of your needs out of the box
[11:22] <joshu> ikonia i have looked at ltsp, but that's quite different if I understand it connects to an ubuntu server. I chatted with some people on the #ltsp channel and they suggested ubuntu mini + lightdm that's why I've mentioned it in my post.
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: its a good OS for thin clients
[11:22] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: it's terrible
[11:22] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: it's old and dated
[11:23] <ikonia> it's totally unmaintained apart from crazy unsupportable stuff like "slacko"
[11:23] <ikonia> joshu: you're starting to get into building your own custom spin/distro at that point
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: http://puppylinux.org/main/Download%20Latest%20Release.htm  march 2013, only 1 month younger than Raring
[11:23] <Johnny_Linux> huh, slacko worked prety good for me, on a eeepc
[11:23] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: and look at what is is "slacko"
[11:23] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: it's just taking software from slackware
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: its still puppy linux though
[11:24] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: it's really not
[11:24] <ikonia> there has not been a native puppy build for a long long time
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: how so, its on the official puppy linux and toued as the 'latest release', how is it not puppy?
[11:24] <ikonia> because puppy is dead and they just re-spin other peoples software in an unstable mess now
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: then why is the puppy site showing it as new, its right there on the page
[11:25] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: because it is new
[11:25] <entertainer0815> thx ActionParsnip <3
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: you said it was old though...
[11:25] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: and this is what people in puppy do now,
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> entertainer0815: all good?
[11:25] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: yes, the last proper puppy standalone OS is old
[11:25] <entertainer0815> yeah ActionParsnip
[11:25] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:25] <joshu> ikonia ok and you wouldn't suggest that for this project?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> entertainer0815: yay
[11:26] <entertainer0815> sometimes is "turn it off and on again" better :D
[11:26] <ikonia> joshu: the building of a custom distro you mean ?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> entertainer0815: no doubt
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: it doesnt make any sense
[11:26] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: it really does
[11:26] <entertainer0815> thx and bye :)
[11:26] <joshu> ikonia yes if that's what it would mean starting with ubuntu mini?
[11:26] <ikonia> joshu: it really depends if you want to build, maintain and support your own ubuntu spin
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: you say puppy is dead but the puppy site shows a release in March, not old
[11:27] <ikonia> joshu: it's not a bad idea, you just need to be aware of what you are getting into
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: doesnt matter what its based on, its still puppy
[11:27] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: please look at what puppy releases are now, they are just spins of other distros using the "woof" tool, they are an unstable mess and there is nothing really "puppy" in it any more. The last proper puppy build is old, hence why it's old
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: i wouldnt say so, but lets move on
[11:28] <fugutive221_> Hi
[11:28] <fugutive221_> Can anyone help me with a touchpad problem on Ubuntu?
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> fugutive221_: what make and model system?
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> fugutive221_: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue    ?
[11:29] <fugutive221_> Toshiba Satellite p870-335
[11:30] <fugutive221_> ActionParsnip: Model : Toshiba Satellite p870-335
[11:30] <alioth> anyone can help me in resizing partitions?
[11:30] <fugutive221_> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[11:30] <yalex> hello is there a way to get thunderbird and firefox to show network shares in Ubuntu 13.04?
 use Gparted application and make sure to backup data before resizing partition
[11:31] <joshu> ikonia I think if I had some help then I wouldn't mind going the ubuntu mini route.
[11:32] <alioth> I have problem with gparted, I wanna use fdisk
[11:32] <greyhatpython> alioth what happened with gparted
[11:32] <ikonia> joshu: there a lots of system intergrator IT businesses that will build and maintain this sort of thing for you
[11:33] <ikonia> joshu: I think asking people to build this for your commercial needs for free is a bit tall to ask
[11:33] <alioth> I wanna resize my extended partition, but I see a warning with that in gparted
[11:33] <greyhatpython> alioth what is the warning you are getting?
[11:34] <joshu> ikonia absolutely I understand. That's why I mentioned that I was willing to pay for guidance.
[11:34] <alioth> Logical Volume Management is not yet supported.
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> fugutive221_: tried Fn + F9?
[11:36] <darkowlzz> how do I upgrade vala in ubuntu 12.04? doing `apt-get upgrade` says it's already the newest version
[11:36] <fugutive221_> ActionParsnip: I haven't tryed that yet > I will do that just in a moment > what does it do?\
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> fugutive221_: its the shortcut to enable/disable the touchpad....
[11:36] <greyhatpython> alioth try opening the gparted app as sudo gparted from the terminal
[11:36] <alioth> ok
[11:36] <Pricey> darkowlzz: Although packages are provided by ubuntu, they are promised to be stable. This means that it might not always be the latest version from the upstream project.
[11:37] <greyhatpython> alioth you need to run the app in root privileges.
[11:37] <ikonia> joshu: check out some of the comerical linux providers
[11:38] <fugutive221_> ActionParsnip: I doesn't change anything to the situation ( it changes the volume) For me the enabling/disabling of the touchpad is fn + F5 but that doesn't work to
[11:38] <alioth> I got the error again greyhatpython
[11:38] <darkowlzz> Pricey, thanks, I have vala 0.14 installed, but I need atleast 0.17.4.
[11:38] <xormor> why don't I hear any sound from my xubuntu 13.04 raring ringtail system?
[11:38] <xormor> Linux laptoppi-HP-G62-Notebook-PC 3.8.0-26-generic #38-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 17 21:46:08 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
[11:38] <xormor> I don't hear the sound from YouTube, and not from Facebook's YouTube connection either.
[11:38] <greyhatpython> alioth is it possible to unmount the extended partition and then try to resize?
[11:38] <xormor> I had the same problem earlier. I think I restarted something and it worked again.
[11:39] <alioth> no the option is unactive
[11:39] <fugutive221_> xormor: What if you put the volume about to 50%?
[11:39] <Pricey> !info vala
[11:39] <alioth> there is a warning icon near logical partition
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> fugutive221_: try:  sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sleep 4; sudo modprobe psmouse
[11:39] <Pricey> !info valac
[11:39] <xormor> fugutive221_: I will try.
[11:40] <Pricey> darkowlzz: What version of ubuntu? raring seems to have 0.18?
[11:40] <darkowlzz> 12.04
[11:40] <fugutive221_> ActionParsnip: I will try that
[11:40] <greyhatpython> alioth the easiest way is to  use a live cd of ubuntu on usb key then install gparted and resize!
[11:40] <alioth> I'm using live cd now!
[11:41] <joshu> ikonia alternatively your suggestion is standard ubuntu with scripts, yes?
[11:41] <alioth> greyhat , actually in information box the status of partition is not mounted!!
[11:41] <xormor> fugutive221_: I got it to work. I went to settings and made the Analog Sound output to less than 100%.
[11:41] <xormor> fugutive221_: in the Sound Settings.
[11:42] <alioth> but resize/move option is unactive also!!
[11:42] <ikonia> joshu: something light like lubuntu I think would tick your boxes out the box, and with a little set of login scripts would do exactly what you want
[11:42] <darkowlzz> Pricey, I am on Ubuntu 12.04. Do I have to add raring's source list ?
[11:42] <fugutive221_> xormor: I have had a similar problem like you had
[11:42] <tozen> alioth: r u using livecd?
[11:42] <greyhatpython> alioth the extended partition is just a swap partition or  you have any data?
[11:42] <alioth> tozen yep
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> darkowlzz: no, if you want to upgrade you will need to upgrade to Quantal first, then to Raring
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> darkowlzz: just so you now, Raring is only supported til January 2014 wheras Precise is supported til April 2017
[11:43] <tozen> alioth: show the screenshot of gparted, please
[11:44] <alioth> greyhat it's Linux LVM partition
[11:44] <alioth> tozen just a min
[11:44] <fugutive221_> ActionParsnip: Is it the meaning that I reboot the system?
[11:44] <shaju> d6
[11:44] <joshu> ikonia ok sounds interesting. what about "freezing" lubuntu similar to how wyse thin clients are updated with a new image. and being about to change the few configuration settings remotely…is that doable or we're back in custom land?
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> fugutive221_: no need, is it working
[11:45] <shaju> what will be in ubuntu 14.00
[11:45] <fugutive221_> ActionParsnip: doesn't work
[11:45] <Pricey> darkowlzz: No, that could go very badly.
[11:46] <Pricey> darkowlzz: You've got a few choices, have you considered upgrading to raring?
[11:46] <alioth> tozen I sent
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> fugutive221_: are there any bugs reported?
[11:46] <darkowlzz> Pricey, my internet connection won't support that atm
[11:46] <tozen> alioth: where?
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> shaju  14.04 will be the next lts, first wait for 13.10 to come out
[11:47] <alioth> tozen pm
[11:47] <darkowlzz> Pricey, ActionParsnip no other way?
[11:47] <greyhatpython> alioth you want to use the entire  lvm partition or shrink it?
[11:47] <Pricey> darkowlzz: The other options include rebuilding a raring package for precise... or just installing the precise package... this could go horribly wrong.
[11:48] <xormor> fugutive221_: I think my system had made HDMI the only sound output, I had to "wake up" the analog stereo system.
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> darkowlzz: you could reinstall a clean install of Raring
[11:48] <shaju> MonkeyDust ok
[11:48] <fugutive221_> ActionParsnip: On my computer: No. I'm looking on the internet for those
[11:48] <alioth> greyhatpython I wanna decrease size of it and create a new logical partition, because I have no free space for new one
[11:49] <tozen> alioth: send the link here, please
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> fugutive221_: I suggest you report a bug
[11:50] <darkowlzz> ActionParsnip, but that would require downloading Raring first.
[11:50] <darkowlzz> ActionParsnip, Pricey can't I build valac from source?
[11:50] <darkowlzz> how about ^ ?
[11:51] <Pricey> darkowlzz: Sure, that's another option.
[11:51] <hePtk> j linux
[11:51] <shaju> Ubuntu 13.04 makes my laptop burn!! any alternative for Jupiter  Power Management
[11:53] <darkowlzz> Pricey, ActionParsnip thanks, I am cloning vala :)
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> shaju: do you use a switchable GPU (nvidia + intel)?
[11:53] <alioth> tozen http://s3.picofile.com/file/7852892040/Screenshot_1.png
[11:54] <Pricey> darkowlzz: Make sure you don't install it over the top of Ubuntu's version, that could get messy. Use /opt or /usr/local or osmething similar.
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[11:54] <ActionParsnip> shaju: which AMD GPU do you have?
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> shaju: sudo lshw -C display       will tell you
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> shaju: it will also tell you the driver in use
[11:56] <shaju> ActionParsnip: AMD Radeon HD 6470M (1 GB DDR3 dedicated)
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> shaju: what does it say after:  driver=
[11:56] <greyhatpython> alioth this should help you out. http://tinyurl.com/3ndm8bj
[11:56] <b80905> is emacs installed by default on ubuntu?
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> b80905: i dont believe so, no
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> b80905: vi is though ;)
[11:57] <b80905> ActionParsnip: that sucks, i was gonna switch from vi to emacs
[11:57] <shaju> ActionParsnip sorry Battery Down !
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> b80905: then install it.....
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> shaju: what does it say after:  driver=
[11:58] <b80905> ActionParsnip: i wonder why it is not installed by default
[11:58] <alioth> thanks greyhatpython
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> b80905: no idea
[11:59] <alioth> greyhatpython thanks
[11:59] <greyhatpython> you welcome alioth!
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> b80905  to keep the .iso small, some packages have been left out, emacs may be among them
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> !info emacs | b80905
[11:59] <xormor> b80905: sudo apt-get install emacs
[11:59] <xormor> b80905: I use joe, less hassle.
[11:59] <xormor> b80905: sudo apt-get install joe
[12:00] <b80905> ActionParsnip: is there a distro which comes with emacs installed
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> b80905: i'd imagine so, yes
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> b80905  installing emacs is easier than switching distros, i guess
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> b80905: why does it have to be default?
[12:01] <b80905> ActionParsnip: for it is a gnu software
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> how can i see if xchat lags on me or not
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: have a chat with ubottu
[12:05] <junktext_> You could run two different IRC clients at the same time.
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> send a few requests to her, see if she responds in a timely way, obviosly dont go to crazy
[12:06] <junktext_> See if one is slower than the other.
[12:06] <Johnny_Linux> ping
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  and if she says "mayb", it means "no"
[12:06] <dv-> wtf
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> no /lag trigger somewhere?
[12:09] <darkowlzz> Pricey, it looks like I need valac 0.12 to build vala
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  130+ people in #xchat, better ask there
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: oh yes, tnx they might know
[12:11] <Maxouille> hello
[12:11] <Ygrec> anybody knows how a proxy/socks server responds ?
[12:12] <Ygrec> for instance proxy's respond to GET http://
[12:12] <Ygrec> right ?
[12:12] <Ygrec> it will respond 200 ok
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> Ygrec  this channel is for ubuntu support only, type         join ##networking
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> with a slash
[12:13] <Ygrec> thanks
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | MonkeyDust
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: xchat/view/network meters did the trick :p
[12:19] <alioth> greyhatpython I tried commands described in that link, but I got error again
[12:20] <poison> lenevo g580 bluetooth not working help please
[12:22] <alioth> How should I resize my logical partition... help meee
[12:22] <flan_suse> Anyone here have Shank and use a game controller?
[12:22] <joseph_> can someone give exact entries to add virtual host solivitacap.org on ubuntu 13.10 apache2 server
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> joseph_  #ubuntu+1 for 13.10 support
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> alioth: gparted?
[12:23] <flan_suse> I bought mine from the Humble Bundle, and the game runs fine with nice performance. But the pause and guard actions use the same button on my controller!
[12:23] <flan_suse> I use the joydev module.
[12:23] <alioth> no lvm or fdisk
[12:24] <alioth> lotuspsychje no lvm or fdisk
[12:24] <joseph_> MonkeyDust what is #ubuntu+1?   another channel?
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> !13.10 | joseph_
[12:26] <Left_Turn> hey i have a hard drive partitioned into 2. 1 for my OS, the 2nd for my files. is it possible to install ubuntu OS in the 2nd partition and be able to boot it from start up even with all the other files next to it on the same drive
[12:26] <Johnny_Linux> does saucy salamander come with any side orders ?
[12:27] <Hejkki_> Left_Turn: if the filesystem is ext2, ext3 or other supported by linux installation
[12:27] <Hejkki_> fat32 not ok
[12:27] <Left_Turn> oh god how do i find that out
[12:28] <Hejkki_> sudo fdisk -l if you are on Linux
[12:28] <Left_Turn> windows:(
[12:28] <darkowlzz> Pricey, ActionParsnip there is a vala ppa :) https://launchpad.net/~vala-team/+archive/ppa
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> Left_Turn: how about you make ubuntu as you 'only' Os :p
[12:28] <Hejkki_> then probably your filesystem is fat32 or ntfs, not suitable for linux installation
[12:28] <Left_Turn> i have too much important data:(
[12:28] <Left_Turn> oh no:(
[12:29] <Hejkki_> you can insert another hard drive?
[12:29] <poison> I have lenevo ideapad g580 laptop, installed ubuntu 10.04, laptop's bluetooth not working. sugessions please
[12:29] <Left_Turn> an external one? yes i guess
[12:29] <Hejkki_> Left_Turn: you can resize and add another partition maybe
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> Left_Turn: backup your windows data and format whole drive with ubuntu
[12:29] <Left_Turn> oh on the same hrd drive?
[12:30] <Hejkki_> during ubuntu installation, you can resize and add another partition
[12:30] <Left_Turn> lotuspsychje thats not possible... its too big
[12:30] <jagosix> Good morning people.
[12:31] <Left_Turn> Hejkki_ i can add another paritition from my fat32 and turn it into an ext2?
[12:31] <jagosix> I have an ambir 8201 scanner. works great in windows.. Need to setup in Linux. any suggestions?
[12:31] <jagosix> oops 820i
[12:31] <Hejkki_> Left_Turn: you can resize the fat32 or ntfs to be smaller and add a new partition after that
[12:32] <Left_Turn> oh ok i see
[12:33] <Hejkki_> Left_Turn: that's how i have it currently. i have windows 7 on ntfs, i have fat32 for my files and i have linux on ext4 partition
[12:33] <Pricey> darkowlzz: Even better!! I hadn't thought to search for that.
[12:33] <Left_Turn> oh i need it like that too Hejkki_... im just searching for some tips to help me
[12:34] <jagosix> my partitions are ntfs, hfs+, ext4 and ext3
[12:35] <jagosix> fat32 on exist on some of my usb thumb drives
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> jagosix: if you run:  lsusb   you can use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[12:46] <DarkAceLaptop> how do I get my OpenGL version?
[12:48] <boichev> DarkAceLaptop, glxinfo | grep "OpenGL version"
[12:48] <boichev> DarkAceLaptop, if you don't have glxinfo -> sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[12:49] <DarkAceLaptop> thanks!
[12:51] <joli> whats the counter at ubuntu.com about?
[12:52] <joli> does anyone knows?
[12:53] <rantic> joli: IYou can assume it's related to their efforts with their phone and  tablets
[12:54] <joli> rantic: ok, thank you for the input
[12:55] <jagosix> Actionparsnip - ok once thats done (lsusb) then what ?
[12:59] <jagosix> it's not showing up in Bus device listing
[13:00] <xormor> lsbush
[13:03] <DarkAceLaptop> is there a command that I can use in the command line to make my computer hibernate?
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> DarkAceLaptop  pm-hibernate
[13:04] <DarkAceLaptop> lemme try it
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> DarkAceLaptop  pm means power management
[13:06] <DarkAceZ> MonkeyDust: that just turned my computer off ┐(´∀｀)┌
[13:07] <DarkAceZ> oh wait what
[13:07] <DarkAceZ> it booted up into that session, though
[13:07] <DarkAceZ> weird
[13:08] <DarkAceZ> it's a different hibernate than what pressing fn+f5 does
[13:08] <DarkAceZ> probably a more power-saving one
[13:08] <DarkAceZ> anyway, gotta run
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> DarkAceZ  or do you mean suspend, it's not the same
[13:10] <DarkAceZ> ah, yeah, maybe that's what it is
[13:10] <DarkAceZ> pm-suspend?
[13:16] <anonee> hello everyone
[13:16] <Casey> having issues deleting a folder in root, can someone help?
[13:17] <rantic> Casey: What's the folder, what command are you entering and what error are you getting? Try to provide more information when asking a question.
[13:17] <anonee> Casey open a terminal, sudo rm -r <folder>
[13:18] <Casey> rantic: lol nevermind for some reason it deleted after it said there was no such directory...odd
[13:18] <Casey> sorry to waste anyones time
[13:20] <anonee> rantic I have a program that has an icons the notification area and in GNOME menu, I wanna change that icon, I tried a lot of things but no joy... have you ever encountered something like this?
[13:20] <Casey> rantic: ok better question, how do you undelete data you just accidentally deleted using the rm -rf command _-_
[13:20] <Casey> -_-***
[13:21] <anonee> rantic, Casey, I think you should use photorec
[13:21] <Casey> rantic: the folder was in the /mnt/  folder on a raid 1 ext3
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Casey: use your backups
[13:24] <anonee> ActionParsnip are you the one that pulled his hair yesterday trying to help me with the icons issue?
[13:24] <emper0r> touch test; chattr +i test  -> operation not allowed while flags are put in test
[13:24] <emper0r> any idea?
[13:24] <Casey> ActionParsnip: can you give me a little more explanation?  I was using this as backups but wanted to delete one folder that should not have been on the drive, but instead it deleted all the folders on the drive -_-
[13:25] <psilo> emper0r: only root can set that flag
[13:25] <emper0r> with root same error
[13:25] <emper0r> root@emperor:~# chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
[13:25] <emper0r> chattr: La operación no está soportada mientras se estaban leyendo las banderas en /etc/resolv.conf
[13:26] <emper0r> error (spanish version)
[13:27] <anonee> ActionParsnip I found this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/how-to-use-ubuntu-mono-panel-icons-with-others-icon-sets
[13:28] <Casey> anonee: do you have the repository for
[13:28] <Casey> photorec
[13:28] <anonee> Casey it's in the universe repo i guess just wait a sec plz
[13:29] <Casey> anonee: I checked but couldnt find it, nor on google
[13:29] <emper0r> psilo: got error using /etc/resolv.conf
[13:30] <Casey> anonee: nevermind, I found it
[13:30] <Casey> thanks
[13:30] <anonee> Casey you wanna recover the whole folder right?
[13:30] <Casey> anonee: correct
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> Casey: if it is a backup, just rerun a full backup to recreate the data
[13:31]  * riex having sweaty balls today
[13:32] <Casey> ActionParsnip: I am very new to linux so my skills on here are limited
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> emper0r: just add the lines you want in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> Casey: but you said it was only the backup drive, surely the live data stands, right?
[13:32] <Casey> ActionParsnip: yes on like 8 other hard drives.
[13:33] <anonee> Casey if you have a backup you don't need photorec
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> Casey: then you can recreate the data
[13:34] <Casey> ActionParsnip: this was to consolidate all of those drives (some on computers that are no longer in this state) and then create a backup of the backup, I was only touching this to take it out of EXT4 and move it to NTFS
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> Casey: ntfs? really...
[13:34] <ubair> new user .. any help ??
[13:35] <anonee> ubair please don't ask to ask questions, just go ahead, p.s. I'm not a bot
[13:35] <Casey> ActionParsnip: yes, Hirens does not see ext4 HDD's and I can't clone to my backup drives.
[13:36] <Casey> ActionParsnip: 90% of my work is one a windows machine so it just works out better for me.
[13:37] <rantic> ubair: Be specific when asking for help
[13:37] <Casey> is on windows machines**
[13:38] <Casey> anonee: I have photorec installed, how to you start this puppy?
[13:38] <anonee> Casey what kind of backup do u have?
[13:39] <rickyc> what is the preferred language to develop apps in ubuntu, qt?
[13:39] <Casey> anonee: the word backup is being loosely, I should be saying "copy"
[13:39] <^Mike> Is there not a package for bugzilla any more?
[13:39] <Casey> anonee: for HDD Images, I use Ghost32, off of Hirens.
[13:40] <anonee> you have a copy of your data on ext4, some of them is lost, and you wanna copy the whole stuff to ntfs right?
[13:40] <xkernel> i'm looking for private cloud software build my own cloud
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> xkernel  try owncloud
[13:40] <blazemore> xkernel: owncloud
[13:41] <xkernel> MonkeyDust, blazemore do you think its better to create owncloud or to install each service as standalone like mail server, file server ,etc..  I'm talking about 1 server machine
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> xkernel  better ask in #ubuntu-server
[13:41] <blazemore> xkernel: It depends on what you want from it. It can be better to install everything yourself because then you know 100% what you are running
[13:42] <Casey> anonee: overall goal: to take all info off of the raid 1 ext4's move it to a temp HDD. Reformat the ext4's to NTFS. Problem: For some reason I did not have permissions on my hard drives to just right-click delete, so I had to go in as root and delete the folder that did not need to come over. Thus I deleted all data :(
[13:44] <anonee> Casey now for the lost folder, read this http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec to know how to use photorec, note: always be sure to recover to a different partition, and the rest is gonna be easier I think it can be done by a # cp command
[13:44] <Casey> the raid1 ext4's are still intact, and I haven't formated or touched them since I deleted the whole folder inside the raid 1
[13:45] <Casey> anonee: I've used it in the past off of a cd in bootup, so I'll be ok there, I just didnt know how to start the program in linux, lol.
[13:45] <anonee> Casey I don't remember too there's a tool in photorec called, let me check
[13:45] <JayPro> hey guys... having issues with ant. i type "ant -version" and i get the message "unable to locate tools.jar. Expected to find it in /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386 ....".  I go to /usr/lib/jvm and i see folders for java 1.7 and java 7.  I try sudo update-alternative --config java and i get "there is only one alternative..... nothing to configure"
[13:46] <tiouuuu> mon0 is on channel -1, but the AP uses channel 1 can someone help
[13:46] <Casey> anonee: how do you even get the program to come up? I've installed via the USC but when I search for it in Dash Home it does not appear.
[13:47] <anonee> Casey just go to the shell and # photorec
[13:47] <tiouuuu> mon0 is on channel -1, but the AP uses channel 1 can someone help
[13:47] <Casey> anonee: thanks!
[13:47] <kgalahassa> how can I install skype on ubuntu 12.10? which source can i use?
[13:48] <anonee> Casey dont recover to the same hdd!
[13:48] <luo> #ubuntu ChanServ
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> kgalahassa  try activating the 3rd partner source, then install it
[13:49] <Casey> anonee: I know, I do a lot of data recovery with GetItBack NTFS and Fat32, no stranger to all of this, but I feel like a newb when it comes to linux :p
[13:49] <tiouuuu> can someone help with this error: mon0 is on channel -1, but the AP uses channel 1 can someone help
[13:49] <Casey> anonee: thanks for looking out bud :)
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> kgalahassa: skype.com or Ubuntu partner repo
[13:49] <anonee> Casey yw
[13:50] <anonee> now I need to change this icon lol
[13:50] <luo> #ubuntu who can tell me how to use this  I am newcomer
[13:50] <anonee> if I don't change it I will die just looking at it
[13:50] <Snowie> Hi all. I see alot of oldish complex walkthroughs for android mtp on ubuntu. on 12.04 lts, what is the best option without modifying my SS Note 2 I want access to all in the Gallery app on the phone. gMTP will not find my device and often just crash.
[13:50] <Pici> luo: How to use what?
[13:51] <luo> I am the first time to use this browser
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> luo  what is your ubuntu related question?
[13:52] <tiouuuu> can someone help with this error: mon0 is on channel -1, but the AP uses channel 1 can someone help
[13:52] <Casey> anonee: and let the recovery begin....
[13:52] <RxDx> Please... I am deploying a mesh network... Each router has 2 NICs (network interface cards), one for the backbone and another is an access point (AP) for clients connect.. Now I have DHCP-server installed on each router, so I have multiples subnetworks (one subnetwork for each AP)... How can I have just one DHCP offering IPs for every AP?
[13:52] <luo> I here and  all I can do is nothing
[13:52] <anonee> Casey good luck!
[13:53] <Guest60883> how to install drivers of amd 4000 series display in ubuntu13.04
[13:53] <anonee> Casey just to make sure http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
[13:53] <anonee> Casey I mean this http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec_Step_By_Step
[13:53] <tgary> Hi! Is there a way, to install ttf version of the Liunx Libertine font in Ubuntu 13.10? (How?)
[13:53] <anonee> Casey nobody wants to help me change this icon
[13:54] <Snowie> RxDx: isnt that literally as simple as having all on the same subnet and just setting one dhcp server? just manually specify the ip for each ap, and let the one dhcp do the rest
[13:54] <Slart> tgary: isn't Libertine in the repositories? (apt-cache search libertine)
[13:54] <RxDx> Snowie, thats exactly what I want
[13:55] <Slart> !info fonts-linuxlibertine | tgary
[13:55] <RxDx> Snowie, I just dont know how to set up just ONE dhcp-server for distribute IP for every APs
[13:55] <tgary> Slart: There is fonts-linuxlibertine, but it contains only the OpenType version, and not the True Type Font version.
[13:55] <Slart> tgary: aahh.. I see
[13:56] <anonee> ubottu you've given me some links to help changing an icon yesterday. let's see how smart you are?
[13:56] <anonee> ubottu but you're not stupid though
[13:56] <anonee> OMG ubottu!
[13:57] <Snowie> RxDx: i see, so im not sure of your specifics, but in the 'router' software youve got running your 2 NIC, cant you disable dhcp on all but one, and manually set the IP for the AP side on each. Dhcp should then be available to all that connect.
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> anonee: she only reposnds to triggers, not intelligent
[13:57] <rantic> ActionParsnip: That's what they said about Skynet
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> rantic: ha!
[13:58] <Slart> tgary: this might be an option if you can't find an easier way. http://www.stuermer.ch/blog/convert-otf-to-ttf-font-on-ubuntu.html
[13:59] <RxDx> Snowie, actually, my routers softwares is Debian Linux... My scenario is.. One backbone formed by the router (the backbone address is 192.168.0.X, where X is the number of the mesh router)... and each mesh router has another wireless interface that I is running HostAPD (to transform it into an AP)
[13:59] <tgary> Slart: Ok, I've downloaded from SF and imported to my app.. I don't know why this 8MB is not included in Ubuntu.
[13:59] <RxDx> the backbone IPs is set manually.. but the AP IPs should be delivery automactly with dhcp
[14:00] <Slart> tgary: I have no idea either
[14:00] <tgary> Slart: (It is in the official linux libertine sourceforge page, no need to convert.)
[14:00] <tgary> Slart: Thanks the help!
[14:00] <Slart> tgary: you're welcome
[14:00] <Casey> anonee: what icon are you trying to change?
[14:00] <RxDx> but I want to provide transparent handoff between the mesh routers...
[14:01] <blazemore> RxDx: Try #ubuntu-server or ##networking (the latter is unaffiliated with Ubuntu)
[14:02] <Snowie> RxDx: Ahh, yeah, that i dont think i can help with, the handoff. other than that, enable dhcp on just one router, so one router would be the gateway address for all ohter routers, and all other devices connected to those routers also. do you get what i mean?
[14:04] <Snowie> any simple mtp for android solutions other than "upgrade to 13.04"?
[14:05] <RxDx> Snowie, I got.. but look whats my problem.. Actually I already have one gateway (mesh router1 for example)... but the traffic flows between wlan0 (which is 192.168.0.X, i mean, has a mesh topology) but the clientis another  network... it is 192.168.1.X so I can send requests through 192.168.0.1 but it doesnt comes to 192.168.1.1
[14:05] <anonee> Casey it's an app i don't think you know it it's called minbar it's for prayer times. I'm afraid it's like in windows when it's taken from inside the exe or dll, however I still think that hopefully not!
[14:06] <anonee> ubottu i18n locales
[14:06] <anonee> ubottu i18n locales you told me yesterday when I asked if you were single!
[14:07] <anonee> lol
[14:07] <anonee> Casey! ubottu needs recovery!
[14:07] <anonee> OK bye room.
[14:10] <JayPro> hey guys... having issues with ant. i type "ant -version" and i get the message "unable to locate tools.jar. Expected to find it in /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386 ....".  I go to /usr/lib/jvm and i see folders for java 1.7 and java 7.  I try sudo update-alternative --config java and i get "there is only one alternative..... nothing to configure" ..anyone?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> JayPro: try the Webupd8 PPA for Oracle Java
[14:12] <JayPro> what do you mean.. what is that?
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> JayPro  start from the beginning, what are you trying to achieve
[14:13] <JayPro> im trying to install ofbiz to test it out... before i do, i was checking to see if java, subversion, and ant is installed correctly
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> !find ofbiz
[14:14] <JayPro> so... java and subversion checks out...
[14:15] <JayPro> but ant can not locate java tools
[14:17] <JayPro> i've removed java and ant...then reinstalled ant, which also installed java...still i get the same error...not being able to locate java tools
[14:18] <linux_hacks> try setting up the java in path environment variable
[14:19] <linux_hacks> or also it should work by setting up the JAVA_HOME export parameters
[14:21] <JayPro> linux_hacks okay ummm...let me google that..
[14:21] <linux_hacks> you mean to set java_home
[14:21] <JayPro> yeah i dont know what that means..
[14:22] <linux_hacks> ok run this command
[14:22] <linux_hacks> export JAVA_HOME='' location of java where it is installed
[14:22] <linux_hacks> to the parent directory not to the bin directory
[14:23] <JayPro> /usr/lib/jvm? there's like 5 java folders
[14:23] <linux_hacks> run ls
[14:23] <linux_hacks> and copy the stack trace to pastebin
[14:23] <Guest29752> Hey guys does anyone know how to dd the android sdcard filesystem out so I can use scalpel/other data recovery software on it?
[14:24] <kchengue> hello gus
[14:24] <kchengue> guys
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> Guest29752: what is the output o:  cat /etc/issue
[14:25] <Guest29752> "\n \l"
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Guest29752: ok, try:  lsb_release -sc
[14:25] <s4ck> hi
[14:25] <s4ck> anybody here
[14:25] <s4ck> hello
[14:25] <s4ck> i need help very fast
[14:25] <s4ck> plz help
[14:25] <FloodBot1> s4ck: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Guest29752: what is output please?
[14:25] <Pici> s4ck: just ask
[14:25] <s4ck> pici: i try install ubuntu 13.04, but it say
[14:26] <s4ck> but it give me black screen
[14:26] <s4ck> pici: ubuntu not good
[14:26] <s4ck> pici: installer not work
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> s4ck: what video chip do you use?
[14:26] <s4ck> ActionParsnip: who are you
[14:26] <s4ck> pici: help me
[14:26] <ezra-s> lol
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> s4ck: why does that matter?
[14:26] <s4ck> installer not working
[14:26] <Pici> s4ck: stop pressing enter every 2 words.
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> s4ck: what video chip do you use?
[14:26] <s4ck> ActionParsnip: how do i check it
[14:26] <s4ck> i use linux.....
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> s4ck: does the system have a working OS presently?
[14:27] <s4ck> yes actionparsnip, of course
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> s4ck: not of course, it could be a new HDD and you want to install to it
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> s4ck: there is no 'of coure' about it
[14:27] <s4ck> actionparsnip: my hdd is 600gb
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> s4ck: what OS are you running presently
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> s4ck: your HDD is irrelevant right now
[14:28] <s4ck> actionparsnip: ubuntu 9
[14:28] <s4ck> updatemanager giving me black screen
[14:28] <ezra-s> now it's update manager, not an installation...
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> s4ck: ok run: sudo lshw -C display
[14:29] <Guest29752> @ActionParsnip: Sorry, /etc/issue is "Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l"
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> s4ck: there is no ubuntu 9, there is ubuntu 9.04 and ubuntu 9.10
[14:29] <s4ck> actionparsnip; now installer work, thanks
[14:29] <MoPac> Hello; I have a question about folder-mounted devices in general and cifs in particular. I have some folders on a NAS mounted on login via fstab, and for the most part it's great how transparent it is. However, I'm wondering if there is any simple way for a program to see that a folder is so mounted and what the IP is?
[14:29] <s4ck> magic happened
[14:29] <MoPac> My issue is specifically with the fact that CrashPlan can't throttle the LAN traffic between my laptop and the NAS folders because it just sees it as a local folder, not a LAN destination. I wanted to suggest to CrashPlan that they add functionality to discriminate, but I don't know if there is a ready way for an application to check.
[14:29] <s4ck> now its working
[14:29] <s4ck> nob lack screen
[14:29] <s4ck> but i have 1 more question, actionparsnip. are u knowing v4l2loopback?
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest29752: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/06/mount-nexus-4-on-ubuntu   all I know
[14:30] <s4ck> how can I create virtual webcam and stream videos from it?
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> s4ck: never heard of it
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> s4ck: why is this so time critical?
[14:30] <ezra-s> MoPac, if you want to monitor traffic SMB uses the tcp/ip stack you just monitor destination ip:port and traffict to/from it
[14:31] <s4ck> any operator here
[14:31] <s4ck> !ops - i need cloak
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> s4ck: why is this so time critical?
[14:31] <s4ck> !ops
[14:31] <s4ck> hello, i need cloak
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> s4ck  ask in #freenode
[14:31] <s4ck> monkeydust, ok
[14:31] <IdleOne> s4ck: needing a cloak isn't a channel emergency.
[14:31] <BluesKaj> s4ck, join #freenode for cloaking
[14:31] <DJones> s4ck: You need to join #freenode to ask about a cloak
[14:31] <s4ck> cannot get cloak from here?
[14:31] <Pici> s4ck: don't abuse the ops trigger.
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> s4ck: why did you want help urgently for just an install please?
[14:31] <MoPac> ezra-s: So an application would actually have to send data to a folder, then do traffic monitoring and determine statistically or something that "hey, that was my traffic, this folder must be remote"?
[14:31] <s4ck> djones, how can i get /ubuntu/ one?
[14:32] <IdleOne> !membership > s4ck
[14:32] <kgalahassa> how can I install skype on ubuntu 12.10? which source can i use?
[14:32] <DJones> !skype | kgalahassa
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> !skype
[14:32] <Guest29752> @ActionParsnip I already have the phone mounted using go-mtpfs, but trying to dd /media/MyAndroid doesnt word (I should mention I have no idea how to dd either but this guide indicated I should - http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/15869/how-can-i-recover-a-deleted-file-on-android)
[14:32] <s4ck> who is founder of ubuntu
[14:33] <s4ck> founder of ubuntu come to this channel?
[14:33] <blazemore> !ot | s4ck
[14:33] <ezra-s> MoPac, I don't know how " CrashPlan" works but if it is as you say it monitors activity to throttle bandwitdh usage or so I understoot, which better way than checking network traffic itself?
[14:33] <yeats> kgalahassa: http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/ - I would guess that the 12.04 version would probably work fine
[14:33] <k1l_> s4ck: see the bots message in query
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> s4ck: try asking one question then get that resolved, rather than machine gunning questions
[14:34] <ezra-s> s4ck, Marck ShuttleWorth is the head of Ubuntu now
[14:34] <JayPro> linux_hacks http://pastebin.com/NebHgP26
[14:34] <MoPac> ezra-s: I'm pretty sure CrashPlan actually works by knowing in advance: this is a backup to a LAN destination, this is a backup to a WAN destination, or this is a backup to a local folder. It then throttles the rates based on your settings, not by monitoring its own traffic and then determining that it's sending data over LAN or WAN
[14:34] <s4ck> ezra-s: does he come to irc?
[14:34] <blazemore> ezra-s: Sorry but you're wrong, Mark Shuttleworth stepped down as CEO of Canonical in December 2009
[14:34] <linux_hacks> now java_home should be set to /usr/lib/jum/default-java
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> s4ck: "15:25 < s4ck> i need help very fast"   <- why?
[14:35] <k1l_> !ot | s4ck
[14:35] <arc__> i was told here to upgrade my ubuntu so my cpu fan will work but it was just some paper stuck in there
[14:35] <MoPac> ezra-s: So I was wondering if Ubuntu's mounting system - cifs or whatnot - created some kind of ready list of mounts and IPs that other apps can read
[14:35] <s4ck> ActionParsnip: my ubuntu was having black screen, i thought all my data will be removed
[14:35] <blazemore> arc__: Fantastic :D
[14:35] <ezra-s> blazemore, ohh.. my bad, I assumed he remained that way as he is still the one who does the talking publicaly, my bad
[14:36] <jpds> MoPac: fstab/GIO gvolume ?
[14:36] <arc__> yeah thanz all you irc guy out there
[14:36] <ezra-s> MoPac, no clue
[14:36] <blazemore> arc__: To be fair, when we help people we tend to assume they've already checked the obvious things like "nothing is physically stuck in my computer"
[14:36] <BluesKaj> my bad , my bad ..gawd , can't you guys speak english
[14:36] <Ace[Laptop]> hi all, does anyone know of a method of installing ubuntu-minimal that supports UEFI booting (mini.iso does not work, no uefi support)
[14:37] <MoPac> jpds: Sorry, I'm a bit to green to follow -- I know the fstab file but not GIO gvolume
[14:37] <arc__> yeah i just ask a lapto tech guy at my school
[14:37] <MoPac> ezra-s: thanks for thinking about it anyway
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> s4ck: no, an installer not running will not toch your data. You should also have a backup if your data is important
[14:37] <Sazpaimon> can anyone please confirm if the latest bcmwl drivers support the new 802.11ac cards?
[14:37] <s4ck> *touch
[14:37] <ezra-s> BluesKaj, are you talking to me?
[14:37] <s4ck> actionparsnip, you make lots of english grammatical mistakes....
[14:38] <BluesKaj> in general ezra-s , you're not the onlky one
[14:38] <BluesKaj> err only
[14:38] <linux_hacks> JayPro: did you do this  java_home should be set to /usr/lib/jum/default-java
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> s4ck  stick to support questions, please
[14:38] <blazemore> s4ck: typographical errors, not spelling mistakes. I doubt he thinks it's spelled "toch", it's more likely he just typed it incorrectly
[14:38] <arc__> anyway when i upgraded to 12.04 i lost all of my packages and they where compatible with 12.04.1 so i am confused
[14:39] <ezra-s> BluesKaj, but I can use informal language If I want, or not?
[14:39] <ashish_> my ubuntu 12.04 system heating too much. its dell m101z
[14:39] <s4ck> blazemore: please shut up
[14:39] <k1l_> s4ck: please stick to the technical ubuntu support in here (see the messages the bot gave you)
[14:39] <jpds> MoPac: It's an interface to what GNOME knows about mountpoints.
[14:39] <s4ck> ok k1l_
[14:39] <blazemore> Thanks k1l_
[14:40] <MoPac> jpds: thanks
[14:40] <arc__> ashish_ is there anything stuck in your fan
[14:40] <BluesKaj> ezra-s, informal isn't always est for those who don't understand English idioms and vernaculars as well you do.
[14:41] <ashish_> nothing. my fan is working file. initially i installed 13.04 but there was not driver supportd to amd display manager so i install 12.04 with fglrsx drivers its its too hot
[14:41] <ezra-s> BluesKaj, english is not my native language, I use what I usually hear, "my bad" was used a lot when I lived in US
[14:41] <JayPro> linux_hacks yeah did not work
[14:41] <BluesKaj> no matter
[14:41] <netlar> Good morning all
[14:41] <ezra-s> :P
[14:41] <linux_hacks> do you have any special reason to use openjdk
[14:42] <BluesKaj> my bad is poor English even by US standards
[14:42] <linux_hacks> generally I would  install sun jdk and use ant download and configure system
[14:42] <ezra-s> BluesKaj, well you weren't there hearing "it ain't" all day long :P
[14:43] <BluesKaj> my bad isn't "cool" , it's dumbing down , that's all
[14:43] <JayPro> linux_hacks i just want to use ofbiz.... checked tutorials on installing ofbiz on ubuntu and it was asking for for them - http://rmahmadur.wordpress.com/2013/06/03/installation-of-ofbiz-on-ubuntu-12-04/
[14:43]  * ezra-s erases "my bad" as requested
[14:44] <linux_hacks> ok..so do this..
[14:44] <drasko_> HI all. Boot process hangs here : [   13.184419] init: upstart-udev-bridge state changed from starting to pre-start
[14:45] <drasko_> for a quite long time. How to debug thi ?
[14:45] <drasko_> *this?
[14:45] <blazemore> drasko_: Does it boot eventually?
[14:45] <drasko_> yeap
[14:46] <drasko_> but after 2 minutes
[14:46] <drasko_> meanwhile no console output
[14:46] <drasko_> untill login prompt, which appears, as I said, around 2 min after
[14:47] <blazemore> drasko_: Can you please run the command: " sudo apt-get install bootchart pybootchartgui -y " (without the quotes). BootChart is a utility which helps find bottlenecks in the boot process
[14:47] <blazemore> drasko_: Once you've done that, reboot and let me know
[14:47] <drasko_> blazemore, I already have bootchart installed
[14:47] <xormor> "compassionate conservative" is bad English :D
[14:47] <drasko_> and I booted with it
[14:47] <blazemore> Oh OK show me your bootchart them :)
[14:47] <blazemore> *then
[14:47] <drasko_> but I can not find bootstrap.tgz
[14:47] <drasko_> *bootchart.tgz
[14:47] <blazemore> drasko_: It's a png image in /var/log/bootchart
[14:47] <ezra-s> hehe
[14:48] <drasko_> blazemore, I do not have pybootchartgui
[14:48] <p0wn3d> Does anyone know a published list of updates you receive by date from the update manager?
[14:48] <drasko_> just bootchart
[14:48] <Ace[Laptop]> hi all, does anyone know of a method of installing 13.04 ubuntu-minimal that supports UEFI booting (mini.iso does not work, no uefi support)
[14:49] <blazemore> drasko_: Are there any files in /var/log/bootchart ?
[14:49] <Semper> Gentlemen, when I open a remote SSH session with xforwarding and start the DE
[14:49] <Semper> is it meant to migrate the session from the PC I am sshing from?
[14:49] <drasko_> blazemore, yes actually... I just saw tgz
[14:49] <drasko_> let me analyze it
[14:49] <blazemore> drasko_: You need pybootchartgui to turn that into a png
[14:49] <p0wn3d> I found it ubuntuupdates.org
[14:49] <drasko_> yeap, I know ;)
[14:50] <drasko_> I have this on my host
[14:50] <drasko_> (I run ubuntu on ARM target, and have no GUI there)
[14:51] <ashish_> my ubuntu system is heating too much with 12.04 and fglrx drivers
[14:51] <ashish_> i installed tlp and zram also. its normal temp is 95C
[14:51] <mar77i> hello #ubuntu
[14:51] <blazemore> Semper: No, it will work for new individual applications (try xeyes as the standard test example)
[14:52] <mar77i> boss said we'll import these users with dots in their login names. also, they should be able to log in with these and new users should also be created with dots from gui.
[14:53] <mar77i> a quick google didn't turn up too much useful info so I came here...
[14:53] <blazemore> I don't understand your question mar77i
[14:53] <h00k> ashish_: are your fans running? Does it heat up that much with any other OS? consider checking heatsinks for blockages
[14:53] <Okitain> mar77i: run?
[14:53] <blazemore> Everyone in here now is going to be "check your fan for paper" with every overheating issue :P
[14:53] <blazemore> 3
[14:53] <ashish_> ya my fan is working fine. in windows system was ok
[14:54] <h00k> blazemore: it's not a bad troubleshooting step.
[14:54] <blazemore> h00k: I know, but one assumes that the end user has checked this sort of thing for themselves before coming to IRC :P
[14:55] <blazemore> or at least, one used to be able to assume
[14:55] <mar77i> to get precise, this must have to do with that NAME_REGEX variable. where is that set?
[14:56] <ashish_> is there is any way to identify the issue or because of which reason system is heating at this level?
[14:56] <ashish_> i m using gnome3.4 with ubuntu12.04
[14:56] <Ace[Laptop]> does anyone know of a 13.04 that supports both the minimal install and uefi booting?
[14:56] <Ace[Laptop]> *13.04 iso
[14:57] <h00k> blazemore: I assume little :(
[14:57] <saiarcot895> ashish_: you can try using top to see what process is using the most CPU
[14:57] <saiarcot895> ashish_: I'm assuming it's the CPUs that are overheating
[14:58] <h00k> blazemore: /query for a good story -->
[14:58] <ashish__> gnome cell is using 50-60, it may be the reason of heating?
[14:58] <JayPro> thanks for the help, linux_hacks!!!
[14:59] <linux_hacks> you're welcome.
[14:59] <mar77i> hmm, I found the /etc/adduser.conf file, but adding the dot into the character list didn't help.
[14:59] <saiarcot895> ashish__: If that process is using the most CPU, I would say that's the cause
[15:00] <ashish__> so what can i do to check it??????
[15:01] <Okitain> Ace[Laptop]: can you switch it off?
[15:01] <ashish__> ubuntu11.10 was woring very well with my system
[15:01] <saiarcot895> ashish__: is that the name of the process as it appears in top?
[15:01] <blazemore> ashish__: What laptop are you on?
[15:02] <Ace[Laptop]> Okitain: switching it off will disable  a feature I'd like to test, intel's rapid start
[15:02] <ashish__> dell m101z
[15:02] <Ace[Laptop]> Okitain: it also signficantly increases my boot time
[15:02] <ashish__> saiarcot895, i didnt get what u r asking and how to check
[15:03] <Okitain> Ace[Laptop]: you can try to install ubuntu and then retroactively switch the efi bootloader on.
[15:03] <saiarcot895> ashish__: open a terminal and type in top; the process using the most CPU will appear at the top, and the name of the process will appear on the right side
[15:03] <Ace[Laptop]> Okitain: that's an interesting thought
[15:04] <ashish__> saiarcot895,_ ya its gnome cell
[15:04] <Ace[Laptop]> Okitain: I wonder how up to date this is --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Converting_Ubuntu_into_EFI_mode
[15:05] <Okitain> Ace[Laptop]: seems good enough as it has SecureBoot in.
[15:06] <mar77i> actually, changing the value in /etc/adduser.conf has no effect at all... how so?
[15:06] <blazemore> mar77i: "man /etc/adduser.conf"
[15:07] <saiarcot895> ashish__: I can't find anything about gnome_cell or gnome-cell on the internet
[15:07] <Ace[Laptop]> Okitain: I guess that's my best option, it's a bit disappointing that the real installer isn't flexible enough to just install a minimal system if requested
[15:07] <saiarcot895> ashish__: the only suggestion I have is to kill the process, either from within top or by using pkill
[15:07] <ashish__> sorry its gnome-shell
[15:07] <Ace[Laptop]> Okitain: I'm a bit surprised ubuntu needs more than one install iso at all, other distros manage to do one that supports all the different install types
[15:07] <Okitain> Ace[Laptop]: if you want, you can turn to the dark side and just use Fedora.
[15:08] <saiarcot895> ashish__: that makes more sense
[15:08] <ashish__> i m really very sorry
[15:08] <Ace[Laptop]> Okitain: I can't stand the package management
[15:08] <saiarcot895> ashish__: in that case, don't kill the process
[15:08] <mar77i> blazemore: funny
[15:08] <xormor> sudo apt-get install packagename
[15:08] <blazemore> mar77i: I wasn't trying to be funny...?
[15:10] <mar77i> blazemore: /etc/adduser.conf contains a default regex with a backslashed end of line anchor \$... but it looks like the shell doesn't try to expand a dollar char at the end of the string leaving the backslash in there and passing the actual "...\$" to the regex engine which then expects user names to end with '$'...
[15:10] <Okitain> Ace[Laptop]: There is Mageia, openSUSE, etcetera...
[15:10] <saiarcot895> ashish__: I'm guessing it has something to do with graphics
[15:10] <saiarcot895> ashish__: can you run "glxinfo | grep direct" and tell me what it says?
[15:11] <Okitain> Really, I can't help but feel it's all a clusterfuck done specifically so that linux would have trouble.
[15:11] <DarkDex> hey guys
[15:11] <Ace[Laptop]> Okitain: those are all rpm based, the only non-ubuntu I've considered is debian
[15:11] <DarkDex> is there a way to download torrents off the cli?
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> DarkDex: sure, transmission has a cli interface
[15:11] <ashish__> saiarcot895, the glxinfo not installed
[15:11] <mar77i> blazemore: my current regex in /etc/adduser.conf line 85: NAME_REGEX="^[a-z][-a-z0-9_.]*$" # works
[15:11] <BluesKaj> !language > Okitain
[15:11] <Ace[Laptop]> Okitain: and if I use debian, I lose all the PPA stuff
[15:11] <DarkDex> ActionParsnip: Is it ok if I pm you man?
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> DarkDex: sure, ive not done it but I know it can be done
[15:12] <BluesKaj> ashish__, install mesa-utils
[15:12] <Okitain> DarkDex: there is also rtorrent.
[15:12] <Ace[Laptop]> DarkDex: deluge has a cli too, also, rtorrent is an awesome command-line-only program
[15:12] <ashish__> BluesKaj, ya i m installing
[15:13] <ashish__> saiarcot895, direct rendering: Yes
[15:14] <ashish__>     GL_EXT_copy_buffer, GL_EXT_copy_texture, GL_EXT_direct_state_access,
[15:14] <vaka> hi
[15:14] <vaka> i am a java developer and want to contribute to open source
[15:14] <vaka> let me know a good entry point
[15:15] <Okitain> vaka: try forking TuxGuitar.
[15:15] <saiarcot895> ashish__: not sure what it is then
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> vaka: contact projects using java and offer your services
[15:15] <saiarcot895> ashish__: do you have nividia or amd/ati graphics or intel graphics?
[15:15] <Okitain> Maybe not so much of "entry" but at least it needs it.
[15:16] <sanav> alis --list #host
[15:16] <ashish__> saiarcot895, its ati/amd
[15:16] <vaka> i am not sure which projects i can get into
[15:16] <vaka> can you give me a link where i can register
[15:16] <saiarcot895> ashish__: you can try installing the proprietary drivers to see if that changes anything
[15:17] <vaka> if any
[15:17] <sanav> hello , is their any IRC for support on free-web host ? I found problem in sign up .
[15:17] <saiarcot895> ashish__: I believe you have to go into Software Sources, into the Additional Drivers tab, and install the drivers there
[15:17] <ashish__> saiarcot895, i have already installed fglrx drivers
[15:18] <saiarcot895> ashish__: did you have the same problem before installing the fglrx drivers?
[15:19] <ashish__> saiarcot895, ya i have same problem before it
[15:22] <saiarcot895> ashish__: not sure what it is then, sorry about that
[15:23] <holstein> ashish__: what were you using in 11.10? gnome2?
[15:27] <ashish__> it was unity
[15:27] <ashish__> sory that time i was new in linux
[15:28] <ashish__> it was default disply manager.
[15:28] <holstein> ashish__: im just going to propose you might have a "better" experience in something that doesnt require 3d.. such as xfce/xubuntu
[15:29] <ashish__> holstein, its surely prob of gnome?
[15:30] <holstein> ashish__: i didnt say, or mean to imply that
[15:30] <holstein> ashish__: its likely related to the graphics driver support,, where you are troubleshooting.. and, you may not get support for your device for inux
[15:30] <ashish__> holstein, i just asked because i like gnome. if there is no alternate way that i have to use lxde
[15:30] <holstein> ashish__: if you have tried all the drivers that are available
[15:31] <holstein> ashish__: the alternative is to purchase hardware with better linux support
[15:31] <holstein> ashish__: lxde/lubuntu doesnt require 3d either
[15:31] <ashish__> holstein, this laptop was shipped with ubuntu10.10 only
[15:32] <holstein> ashish__: what were the support terms? have you tried all the drivers available?
[15:32] <ashish__> holstein, so i dont think drivers should be the issue
[15:33] <holstein> ashish__: if you have tried all the drivers, and they are not acceptable, then the drivers *are* the issue
[15:33] <rosco_y> how do you set your mouse-buttons so you can click on the top border of a window to send it to the back of other windows?
[15:33] <ashish__> ya i installed fresh driver now it shows VISA 880
[15:33] <holstein> ashish__: vesa
[15:33] <holstein> ?
[15:33] <drasko_> on boot, linux hangs there: [    2.601529] drivers/rtc/hctosys.c: unable to open rtc device (rtc0)
[15:33] <drasko_> then waits for a long time
[15:34] <ashish__> it shows in system setting, overview VISA:RS880M
[15:35] <blazemore> drasko_: Like I said, show me your bootchart
[15:35] <holstein> ashish__: is the performance acceptable? i wouldnt worry much about the labels
[15:35] <netlar> How can I find out the chipset of my bluetooth?  It is built into the motherboard, it is not a usb adapter.
[15:35] <blazemore> netlar: lspci
[15:36] <drasko_> blazemore, this bootchart does not tell me much. Where can I send it ?
[15:36] <ashish__> holstein, performance is ok, only heatin issue but its too much now 98C
[15:36] <blazemore> drasko_: However you want... I like imgur
[15:36] <netlar> blazemore: Not sure which one it is from this list
[15:36] <blazemore> netlar: They should be named by date/time - just send me the most recent one
[15:37] <holstein> ashish__: that might be as good as it gets.. you can ask the product vendor for more specific support, or try and file a bug with the creator of the driver you are using
[15:37] <holstein> ashish__: i would try and confirm that that is the tempreature.. could be reporting the temp incorrectly
[15:37] <holstein> ashish__: i have an invidia card that gets hot, and i deal with it, since i want to use linux
[15:37] <ashish__> i m using lm sensor fr it
[15:38] <netlar> blazemore: Here: http://pastebin.com/27He60Fi
[15:38] <holstein> ashish__: sure.. and im not saying its reporting incorrectly, but it could be
[15:39] <ashish__> holstein, so i have to file bug. no other solution right now?
[15:39] <Hekukuokah> can I write ubuntu app for ubuntu phone with python?
[15:39] <holstein> ashish__: have you tried all the drivers available for your device?
[15:39] <blazemore> netlar: Looks like you have the AR9462 wireless module, which is manufactured by Atheros, and provides both WiFi and Bluetooth on your motherboard.
[15:39] <ashish__> holstein, ya i have tried
[15:39] <whoever> ashish__: what device, and what is the prob
[15:40] <holstein> ashish__: aldo, dont assume its getting hot from one source
[15:40] <ashish__> whoever, its del m101z with ubuntu12.04, gnome desktop, fglrx drivers for ati/amd
[15:40] <netlar> blazemore: thanks, Is there a driver for it?
[15:41] <tyteen4a03> Hi, trying to install nvidia drivers using this guide: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-ringtail-nvidia.html but I followed all the way to modprobe bit and it tells me nvidia_update is missing. am I missing something?
[15:41] <holstein> ashish__: you have tried what?
[15:41] <ashish__> holstein, yaa that what i want to know, only one reason should nt be
[15:41] <whoever> ashish__: so what is the card model
[15:41] <holstein> ashish__: i dont understand "holstein, yaa that what i want to know, only one reason should nt be"
[15:41] <drasko_> blazemore, http://imgur.com/uWLo8HF
[15:42] <ashish__> amd readon 4000series
[15:42] <netlar> blazemore: Think I found it
[15:42] <blazemore> netlar: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[15:42] <holstein> ashish__: have you tried the ppa steam suggests? have you tried 13.04? have you tried just using the open driver? why are you not using the opensource driver?
[15:42] <saiarcot895> holstein: he's on the fglrx proprietary drivers, and he had the same problem with the opensource driver
[15:42] <joelmo> something is wrong with my apt-get, i get this error message i need to run `apt-get -f install`
[15:42] <holstein> saiarcot895: heat
[15:42] <holstein> ?
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> ashish__: did you use the legacy fglrx ppa?
[15:42] <ashish__> holstein, only display drivers are may not be the reason fr this much heating
[15:43] <afflicto> How do I flush dns on ubuntu?
[15:43] <saiarcot895> holstein: yes
[15:43] <joelmo> but when i do that i get 'dpkg returned error'
[15:43] <netlar> blazemore I am on 13.04
[15:43] <joelmo> error code 1
[15:43] <holstein> ashish__: i have 2 machines here where only the display driver are the issue for the heat
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> afflicto: restart networking is one way, or reset dnsmasq
[15:43] <netlar> blazemore: I think it is the driver ath9k
[15:43] <saiarcot895> holstein: based on top, the process taking the most CPU is gnome_shell
[15:43] <ashish__> ActionParsnip, ya i used
[15:44] <afflicto> ActionParsnip: reset dnsmasq?
[15:44] <blazemore> netlar: It is
[15:44] <netlar> blazemore: I do not see it in synapic
[15:44] <ashish__> ubuntu13.04 xserver doesnt support my driver sp i downgrade to 12.04
[15:44] <whoever> ashish__: amd /vision tek cards in my experience will run hotter then you expect, it got to whare i had so many other probs with those cards i had to go to nvidex
[15:45] <holstein> ashish__: 12.04 is not supporting your driver.. have you tried the ppa? or 13.04 first hand?
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> afflicto: sudo service dnsmasq restart
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> ashish__: 12.04 is LTS anyway, much better iimho
[15:45] <doafterthink> hi,all
[15:45] <bjoswald> Agreed
[15:45] <holstein> ashish__: if the vendor of your product does not support you, then you will need to experiment and troubleshoot
[15:45] <netlar> blazemore: I am on this page: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/Atheros
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> ashish__: you could try an xorg.conf file to specify settings in the x server
[15:46] <netlar> blazemore: But should it be in the repository?
[15:46] <blazemore> netlar: Generally you should try to find Ubuntu-specific solutions. Is your problem that your wireless is working but your bluetooth isn't?
[15:46] <ashish__> holstein, fisrt i use 13.04. in that no proper driver or fglrx driver support is there as fglrx not upgraded with new xorg so i downgrade to 12.04 and installed fglrrx
[15:47] <holstein> ashish__: if you had "proper" 12.04 support, you wouldnt be here
[15:47] <netlar> blazemore: yes exactly, nothing pairs up with the bluetooth
[15:47] <holstein> ashish__: have you tried the PPA that steam suggests?
[15:47] <blazemore> netlar: Are you dual-booting with Windows?
[15:47] <netlar> blazemore: No I am not
[15:47] <ashish__> ActionParsnip, how to do that
[15:47] <blazemore> netlar: Does your laptop have a hardware switch for bluetooth?
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> ashish__: with lots of cursing and swearing
[15:48] <ashish__> holstein,please explain. i used ppa for installing drivers
[15:48] <netlar> blazemore: this is a desktop, no switch
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> ashish__: its a very well documented file
[15:48] <holstein> ashish__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve#AMD.2BAC8-ATI_Graphics
[15:48] <tyteen4a03> Hi, trying to install nvidia drivers using this guide: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-ringtail-nvidia.html but I followed all the way to modprobe bit and it tells me nvidia_update is missing. am I missing something?
[15:49] <ashish__> holstein, i also called dell, i got the response that we ship laptop with ubuntu but dont provide any support for it
[15:49] <holstein> !nvidia | tyteen4a03 this is the guide i use
[15:49] <MoPac> Hello; I have a question about files or lines that can protect or override settings files. Example: in the ambience theme, I always want "colorize scrollbar" changed from false to true, and I hate having to manually do it every time that theme file has been replaced during an update.
[15:50] <tyteen4a03> holstein, oh thank you, will have a look
[15:50] <MoPac> Other example: I hate the shine on the launcher icons and have made icons that are blank. But they keep getting replaced during updates
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> tyteen4a03: once you have nvidia-current installed just reboot. I assume you do not have a switchable GPU
[15:51] <holstein> MoPac: i would try and find the config and back it up
[15:51] <ashish_> ActionParsnip, please give me the link of that file
[15:51] <holstein> !xorgconf
[15:51] <holstein> ashish__: ^
[15:51] <blazemore> MoPac: Make a copy of the themes you are editing, and call them MyTheme or MyIcons or whatever, then the updates won't overwrite them
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> ashish_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/
[15:53] <MoPac> blazemore: holstein: I guess I was hoping that it might be possible to just protect certain files or certain lines of settings while letting updates work on other ones.  I didn't want to lock myself into today's version of everything forever if I could help it
[15:53] <netlar> blazemore: So ath9k was merged into the kernal.  That is why I do not see a seperate package for it?
[15:53] <blazemore> netlar: Yes, ubuntu includes the ath9k module by default
[15:54] <tyteen4a03> ActionParsnip, oh yes, I don't
[15:54] <fugutive221> Hi everybody
[15:54] <tyteen4a03> ActionParsnip, in that case, thanks
[15:54] <MoPac> blazemore: holstein: I do have backups of my edited images and notes about my edited lines so that I can redo them when needed, but it's just gotten to be a pain
[15:54] <holstein> MoPac: blazemore 's suggestion sounds like the first thing i would try... then make copies as needed of the config to recover
[15:54] <netlar> blazemore: huh, so bluetooth on my system should be supported
[15:54] <fugutive221> ActionParsnip: Still have the problem
[15:54] <blazemore> netlar: Yeah, should be... which makes it more difficult to diagnose
[15:55] <blazemore> !bluetooth | netlar I assume you've been through this?
[15:55] <netlar> blazemore: Does it matter that it is 4.0?
[15:55] <blazemore> netlar: What is 4.0, sorry?
[15:55] <holstein> fugutive221: if you direct the specifics of the "problem" to the entire channel, other volunteers may be able to help
[15:55] <netlar> blazemore: My bluetooth
[15:55] <blazemore> Is 4.0 a bluetooth protocol version? (Sorry I don't know much about bluetooth itsself)
[15:55] <tyteen4a03> another issue - My cursor is flashing when I point to some locations, how do I fix that?
[15:55] <tyteen4a03> blazemore, yes
[15:55] <fugutive221> I have the following problem: I installed 13.04 and after a month the touchpad stopped working. How to solve this ?
[15:56] <netlar> blazemore: Yes, latest protocol
[15:56] <blazemore> fugutive221: You almost certainly disabled the touchpad by accident, by hitting a keyboard shortcut (usually Fn + a function key)
[15:56] <netlar> blazemore: Maybe I need to install the bluez package?
[15:57] <holstein> fugutive221: i would try a live CD to be sure the hardware isnt broken.. i would try booting an older kernel, if an update seems to have broken it.. i agree blazemore ^^ about confirming the on/off switch
[15:57] <fugutive221> blazemore: I tryed that and it didn't solve the problem
[15:57] <blazemore> netlar: bluez is just an application for managing bluetooth connections I believe... You could certainly try installing it
[15:57] <blazemore> fugutive221: Does the trackpad work if you boot from a LiveCD?
[15:57] <linux_hacks> fugutive221: were you able to use your touchpad with live cd ?
[15:57] <blazemore> fugutive221: Or any other OS on your machine?
[15:57] <netlar> blazemore: Just those instructions sent by the bot talks about it
[15:57] <fugutive221> holstein: I tried a live USB and have the same problem (even with lower versions such as: 12.10)
[15:57] <Ace544> Hello:
[15:57] <blazemore> OK fugutive221 what model of laptop is it?
[15:58] <Ace544> I have a question if someone is available to help.
[15:58] <linux_hacks> Ace544..just shoot
[15:58] <holstein> fugutive221: then, the issue is not related to the operating system, it seems. if no other OS sees it, or a live CD
[15:58] <Ace544> Thanks linux_hacks!
[15:58] <fugutive221> blazemore: it´s a Toshiba Satellite P870-335
[15:58] <fugutive221> holstein: the touchpad works fine in Windows
[15:59] <tyteen4a03> another issue - My cursor is flashing when I point to some locations, how do I fix that?
[15:59] <Ace544> I wrote to a USB flash Drive the Ubuntu OS and I installed it. Now I can't access my flash drive to use it for my files. How do I fix it?
[15:59] <razzledazzle> why does Windows share keep asking me for credentials?
[15:59] <razzledazzle> nothing works, even I supplied Windows username and password :|
[15:59] <blazemore> Ace544: You can use the Disk utility in Ubuntu to format the flash drive
[15:59] <holstein> fugutive221: but, you cant get any live CD to use it?
[16:00] <fugutive221> holstein: I could try
[16:00] <linux_hacks> fugutuve221:  were you able to enable and disable in Mouse options ?
[16:00] <fugutive221> holstein: but has it another effect than a live USB?
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> razzledazzle: does your windows pc have a password?
[16:00] <blazemore> fugutive221: Could you please post the output of running the command "lspci -v" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> razzledazzle: sorry, windows account?
[16:00] <holstein> fugutive221: when i read "I tried a live USB and have the same problem (even with lower versions such as: 12.10)" that made me think you have tried live CD's
[16:00] <razzledazzle> ActionParsnip, yes it does, I used it but it doesn't work
[16:01] <linux_hacks> fugutive221: honestly speaking the flash drive should be able to show as any USB stick
[16:01] <linux_hacks> the list of files
[16:01] <fugutive221> holstein: No I tried live USB
[16:01] <razzledazzle> Ubuntu share works perfectly with it though
[16:01] <holstein> fugutive221: oh.. i see.. you are tring USB and i said CD.. that is irrelevant.. the live environment was waht i was going for.. USB/cd.. whatever
[16:01] <linux_hacks> sorry that was meant to Ace544
[16:02] <fugutive221> blazemore: where should I paste it?
[16:02] <razzledazzle> but not the other way, blank password, Windows credentials, Ubuntu credentials, nothing work, even the Domain name is in all caps
[16:02] <blazemore> fugutive221: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:02] <linux_hacks> Ace544: restart system and connect the flash drive to see if it shows like any USB stick... for the files
[16:02] <fugutive221> blazemore: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5891245/
[16:02] <explodes> Holy crap
[16:02] <explodes> I used googles instructions here: http://www.chromium.org/tips-and-tricks-for-chromium-os-developers#TOC-Making-sudo-a-little-more-permissive
[16:03] <explodes> sudo broke, I get: sudo: effective uid is not 0, is sudo installed setuid root?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> razzledazzle: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue    and whet version of Windows are you connecting to?
[16:03] <explodes> whenever I run 'sudo x"
[16:03] <blazemore> fugutive221: Could you please do the same for "lsusb -v" ?
[16:03] <Sazpaimon> can anyone please confirm if the latest bcmwl drivers support the new 802.11ac cards?
[16:03] <Ace544> It doesn't show as a drive or anything when I put it in the usb port. I can reboot and select it to install again, but I want to erase it and use it for my files again.... It wont let me access it.
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> explodes: is this a VPS?
[16:03] <Guest27232> just now i rum power top and the output is Top causes for wakeups:
[16:03] <bugtraq> joined
[16:03] <Guest27232>   71.5% (1157.9)   [Rescheduling interrupts] <kernel IPI>
[16:03] <Guest27232>    8.5% (137.1)   swapper/0
[16:03] <Guest27232>    6.9% (112.5)   swapper/1
[16:03] <Guest27232>    4.6% ( 74.2)   [ohci_hcd:usb3, ohci_hcd:usb4, fglrx[0]@PCI:1:5:0]
[16:03] <FloodBot1> Guest27232: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:04] <razzledazzle> its this ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[16:04] <razzledazzle> and yes Windows 7
[16:04] <explodes> ActionParsnip: No
[16:04] <rosco_y> How do you set your mouse-buttons so you can click on the top border of a window to send it to the back of other windows?
[16:04] <Guest27232> floodBot sory i dont have sorry
[16:04] <fugutive221> blazemore: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5891252/
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> explodes: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:04] <fugutive221> blazemore: The output was too long for the terminal
[16:05] <razzledazzle> version 6.1 (Build 7600) to be precise
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> razzledazzle: do you have a firewall blocking the traffic?
[16:05] <fugutive221> holstein: feel free too help ;)
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> razzledazzle: http://www.7tutorials.com/how-access-windows-7-shared-folders-ubuntu
[16:05] <blazemore> fugutive221: Could you please do the same for "xinput list" ?
[16:05] <linux_hacks> Ace544: can you try formatting the drive from gparted or any other disk manager?
[16:05] <Guest27232> ActionParsnip, have u seen my output if u have any idea. this is ashish
[16:06] <marko> Anybody real here
[16:06] <explodes> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[16:06] <blazemore> !ask | marko
[16:06] <fugutive221> blazemore: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5891254/
[16:06] <Ace544> I tried but I can't find it. I even tried to on my windows machine.
[16:06] <razzledazzle> thanks for the link ActionParsnip, I'll see if it works
[16:06] <marko> I need help with hacker
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> Guest27232: all I can suggest is use xorg.conf file
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> razzledazzle: http://askubuntu.com/questions/134249/connecting-to-windows-7-shares-from-12-04
[16:06] <holstein> fugutive221: you cant get *any* live version of an operating system to use the touchpad?
[16:07] <marko> Is it possible to go through somebody  computer if i have their  Ip
[16:07] <linux_hacks> Ace544: then I would think there is some problem with flash drive
[16:07] <blazemore> fugutive221: When you first asked your question, you said it used to work, is that true?
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> explodes: http://askubuntu.com/questions/299384/ubuntu-sudo-not-working
[16:07] <blazemore> !ot | marko
[16:07] <fugutive221> holstein: Do you mean Windows or another version of Ubuntu than 13.04 (the current version I'm using at the moment)
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> explodes: boot to root recovery mode and set the file straight
[16:07] <blazemore> fugutive221: try gconftool-2 --set --type boolean /desktop/gnome/peripherals/touchpad/touchpad_enabled true
[16:08] <holstein> fugutive221: *any* live operating system
[16:08] <fugutive221> blazemore: indeed it used to work for a month or so
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> explodes: sounds like you chowned the file to your user, am I right?
[16:08] <fugutive221> holstein: sorry, but could you be more specific
[16:08] <Ace544> linux_hacks: It will work when I boot... I have Ubuntu ISO on it now. I can't get into it to access anything.
[16:08] <holstein> fugutive221: sure.. do you run *any* live operating system and have the touchpad work?
[16:08] <mhr> which is the simple and best GUI manager for a bash script? I want to create a GUI for a bashscript in Ubuntu 12.04 32 bit.
[16:08] <marko> I'm not getting any help :(
[16:08] <Ace544> Except through the boot menu.
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> mhr: there is no single best anything for any situation]
[16:09] <explodes> ActionParsnip: *I* didnt.
[16:09] <blazemore> mhr: IMO Zenity http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/make-your-scripts-user-friendly-zenity
[16:09] <linux_hacks> Ace544:well do the destructive method: try again going to install ubuntu..then format the pen drive..
[16:09] <fugutive221> holstein: it works on Windows but not on any Ubuntu version (as far as I know) I run some test on serveral versions of Ubuntu
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> mhr: if you want to run a bash script, use a terminal
[16:09] <Wulframn> marko, You want to know if it is possible to hack into someone's computer if you have their ip address? 1) That is not an Ubuntu related question, which is what this room is for and 2) we don't really do stuff like that.
[16:09] <blazemore> mhr: It's certainly simple, and almost certainly is what you want
[16:09] <Wulframn> Like, at all
[16:09] <explodes> ActionParsnip: and the permission on /usr look just fine
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> explodes: well someone has, it needs setting back
[16:09] <Ace544> linux_hacks: How do I do that?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> explodes: use root recovery and set it right
[16:10] <explodes> k
[16:10] <explodes> 15minutes
[16:10] <linux_hacks> Ace544: use the same flash drive to boot..
[16:10] <marko> wulframn i just want to know if it is possible to do that things , if there exist any program i may find it after
[16:10] <holstein> marko: this is not really an ubuntu support question that i read. what are you trying to do? remote support?
[16:10] <lduros> is ubuntu.com unresponsive?
[16:10] <linux_hacks> Ace544: once you get to the place where you are formatting the disks..then select the pendrive to get formatted.
[16:10] <lduros> trying to get my hands on a ubuntu 12.04 server iso
[16:10] <marko> holstein im new here i dont know  much about this site
[16:10] <mhr> ActionParsnip, I want to have a GUI to take inputs etc. which in turn executes bash script for processing.
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> lduros: www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> !server
[16:11] <fugutive221> blazemore: It still isn working?
[16:11] <blazemore> lduros: According to a bot in another channel, ubuntu.com is up
[16:11] <fugutive221> blazemore: or should I first restart the system?
[16:11] <lduros> hmm
[16:11] <lduros> weird
[16:11] <fugutive221> blazemore: is not working*
[16:11] <holstein> marko: whats your question?
[16:11] <mhr> blazemore, ok I will look into zenity
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> mhr: zenity is decent
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> lduros: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise
[16:12] <marko> Holstein My question is easy can i hack somebody computer if i  know their ip
[16:12] <blazemore> marko: Yes you can. Now, on your way.
[16:12] <holstein> marko: this is not a "hacking" channel.. i would go to networking or security venues
[16:12] <iceroot> marko: you should learn what hacking means and dont waste our time with such stupid questions
[16:12] <DJones> marko: Thats not something you'll get help with here
[16:13] <marko> Lol calm down people  i just wanted to know
[16:13] <iceroot> marko: have a look at google for example at "kernel hacker" or "richard stallman" so see what hacking means
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> one more script kid for the pile
[16:13] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: +1
[16:13] <holstein> marko: when you /join a channel, check the /topic , and you'll know what is on topic for the channels you are in
[16:14] <localh0st> I still can't handle this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2163761&p=12737437#post12737437
[16:14] <marko> kernel hacking is   for linux i use xp holstein ok
[16:14] <localh0st> Can anyone take a look?
[16:14] <mhr> thanks ActionParsnip and blazemore. will go through zenity
[16:14] <holstein> !ot | marko
[16:14] <blazemore> localh0st: try this:
[16:14] <blazemore> localh0st: "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install"
[16:15] <fugutive221> blazemore: would it help if I deleted Ubuntu from my system, to let it work again?
[16:15] <blazemore> fugutive221: You mean a nice, clean, reinstall? I *always* advocate a lovely fresh install
[16:15] <linux_hacks> Ace544: As final resort.. try this
[16:15] <linux_hacks> http://www.ehow.com/how_7184106_format-flash-drive-ubuntu.html
[16:15] <localh0st> blazemore: makes no difference
[16:16] <fugutive221> blazemore: Ok thanks for your time and help!
[16:16] <fugutive221> holstein: Thanks for your time and help
[16:16] <holstein> fugutive221: good luck.. i know its frustrating tracking that kind of thing down
[16:16] <fugutive221> holstein: thanks
[16:17] <fugutive221> holstein: It is frustrating indeed
[16:18] <holstein> fugutive221: the live media is a way of isolating the operating system.. in theory, the live CD should act as a fresh install will
[16:18] <blazemore> localh0st: What is the output of running the above command, please? Use http://paste.ybyty.com
[16:18] <blazemore> localh0st: http://paste.ubuntu.com rather...
[16:18] <fugutive221> holstein: Would there be a difference then in a Live USB and Live CD ?
[16:18] <holstein> fugutive221: no
[16:18] <blazemore> fugutive221: no
[16:19] <fugutive221> Ok: Got it ?
[16:19] <holstein> fugutive221: when i say "live CD" i mean live.. from whatever source.. CD, DVD, USB.. your phone.. live is the point, not the media
[16:19] <fugutive221> I think I will stop with chatting now and enjoy the weather here :D
[16:19] <fugutive221> Bye!
[16:19] <holstein> fugutive221: good plan.. me too
[16:20] <explodes1> How do I drop into a terminal on the live cd?
[16:20] <krz> whats a good stat monitor? im looking for something like conky, lighter that sits on the taskbar
[16:20] <blazemore> explodes1: open a terminal app, or ctrl+alt+F5
[16:21] <irreverant> I know this is Ubuntu but can anyone tell me the difference between knopper.net/knoppix and knoppix.net?
[16:21] <explodes1> blazemore: From the LIVE CD
[16:21] <explodes1> From Grub
[16:21] <opsss> Hi folks :)) anyone to help me pls? After intall MATE Desktop to my Ubuntu 13.03, not inposible to login. Any ideas how to fix this?
[16:21] <razzledazzle> ActionParsnip, I solved it. added "client lanman auth = yes" and "client ntlmv2 auth = no" in the /etc/samba/smb.conf file. But I read that this is for older version of Windows and I even have enabled 128-bit encryption on there.
[16:21] <k1l_> irreverant: better ask the knoppix support or ##linux
[16:22] <blazemore> explodes1: put the word "recovery"on the kernel line
[16:22] <krz> anyone?
[16:22] <k1l_> opsss: see the linux mint support since MATE is not supported by the ubuntu community
[16:23] <blazemore> !patience | krz
[16:23] <opsss> ok k1l_ how to used classic gnome to my ubuntu ?
[16:23] <holstein> k1l_: not much lighter than conky
[16:23] <wilee-nilee> opsss, closest is the fallback
[16:23] <k1l_> krz: multiload systemmonitor indicator?
[16:24] <k1l_> opsss: xubuntu for example. or the gnome-fallback/-classic
[16:25] <krz> k1l_: is that the name of the software?
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> razzledazzle: I see, funky stuff. Glad you got the gold
[16:25] <wilee-nilee> opsss, if your running 13.04 cinnamon is in the repos
[16:25] <localh0st> blazemore: http://pastebin.com/qfP7p5L2
[16:25] <bryant203> is there a good way to increase the framerate of my monitor? it's quite laggy and moving the mouse leaves trails. running ubuntu 13.04 on dell xps over hdmi.
[16:25] <matematikaadit> I don't have any idea whether my gnome-terminal support 256 colors or not.
[16:26] <razzledazzle> :D
[16:26] <opsss> k1l_, wilee-nilee to "fallback" inposible to edin menu/bar and how to edit. i want to add more applications for my panel.
[16:26] <explodes1> Booting with the Ubuntu CD, I'm at the screen that says "Install Ubuntu Server." How do I drop into a terminal? ALT+CTRL+F1 doesn't work...
[16:26] <localh0st> blazemore: i see this package contains my dependencies: http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-13.04/ubuntu-main-amd64/xserver-xorg-core_1.13.3-0ubuntu6_amd64.deb.html  , but it's already installed
[16:26] <wilee-nilee> opsss, You know of the alt key in that scenario right?
[16:27] <aegis> Hi all.  I'm experiencing DNS leaks on my VPN because while the resolvconf package pulls the DNS servers for my VPN it simply adds them to my current list of DNS servers and if the new ones fail it eventually leaks out my local BIND9 DNS server.  Any ideas how to tackle this?
[16:27] <opsss> wilee-nilee, no, i dont know for alt :)
[16:28] <wilee-nilee> opsss, I was helping another and discovered that as far as adding to panel...etc.
[16:28] <drasko_> blazemore, any ideas on : http://i.imgur.com/83CLoKi.png
[16:29] <blazemore> drasko_: I'm about to go home actually (half five yay) but hopefully someone else can look at your bootchart and help you diagnose your slow boot time
[16:29] <wilee-nilee> opsss, I have not messed with the fallback but I think it is alt-rightclick
[16:30] <drasko_> actually I am interested why Bootchart starts at 15s
[16:30] <drasko_> that;s too late
[16:30] <ankan_> hey, where can i find my drivers of msi ms-7507 for my ubuntu 12.10 studio
[16:30] <drasko_> I can see that after this line : [    2.609761] EXT4-fs (mmcblk0p1): mounting ext3 file system using the ext4 subsystem
[16:30] <drasko_> there is about 5 sec hang
[16:30] <skutr34> Hi. I just installed Ubuntu 13.04, and I am having trouble connecting to my WiFi network. Connecting to the network takes a long time, if it does work. Most of the time however, the connection fails. Can someon please help?
[16:31] <opsss> wilee-nilee, my english is not good and i don`t undrastand eyrifing, but "alt-rightclick" work only move the panel from left and right, not for add another panel or application.
[16:31] <localh0st> while apt-get update: http://pastebin.com/MZ5bhqva blazemore
[16:31] <Nmbr1> skutr34: can you connect to your WiFi with other devices? ##networking might be a better place to ask if it is not Ubuntu specific.
[16:32] <skutr34> Nmbr1: Yes. I can. I have determined that it is Ubuntu specific, and that it might be because of my Realtek chip
[16:32] <drasko_> anyone any ideas about extremely slow boot process ?
[16:33] <krz> k1l_: is it system load indicator?
[16:33] <trism> opsss: you have to click on open space in the panel to add a new applet (you can't alt+right click another applet, because that shows different options)
[16:33] <wilee-nilee> opsss, The video I saw had the user adding apps like gnome 2, but honestly gnome 2 is dead, and adaptation is why we are not roaming the savannah with spears. ;)
[16:34] <k1l_> krz: indicator multiload
[16:34] <nedbat> I have a memory-intensive python program that uses subprocess.Popen to spawn subprocesses.  It fails on the fork() with an OSError indicating out of memory.  I thought fork() would use copy-on-write, so the fork() itself wouldn't use a lot of additional memory.  What am I missing?
[16:35] <k1l_> krz: see this: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/indicator-multiload-update-brings.html
[16:35] <ezra-s> nedbat, you probably chose the wrong channel, have you tried #python ?
[16:35] <Nmbr1> skutr34: which realtek chip do you have?
[16:36] <skutr34> Nmbr1: I cannot recall. What is the command?
[16:36] <nedbat> ezra-s: I have, but it's the fork() call that's running out of memory.  I'm trying to understand in which circumstances will fork() copy the pages instead of marking them as copy-on-write?
[16:36] <Nmbr1> skutr34: lspci -nn | grep 'Wireless'
[16:36] <opsss> ok tnx for help trism wilee-nilee :)
[16:37] <explodes1> mount: mouting /dev/sda1 on /mnt/x failed: No such file or directory
[16:37] <skutr34> Nmbr1:  Ralink corp. RT5390 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe [1814:5390]
[16:37] <explodes1> I did "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/explod
[16:39] <nedbat> when does fork() actually copy memory pages, rather than just marking them as copy-on-write?
[16:40] <ffio> how can i built ubuntu distro from scratch ?
[16:41] <sixyearsofdreams> @.@
[16:41] <sixyearsofdreams> how can you built it huh
[16:41] <k1l_> ffio: do you mean you want to install a minimal system and then install what you want? go with the minimal install :)
[16:41] <sixyearsofdreams> nope
[16:41] <Nmbr1> skutr34: are you trying to connect to an 802.11a AP with your Realtek 5390 (a/b/g/n)?
[16:41] <sixyearsofdreams> he wants scratch ;d
[16:41] <skutr34> Nmbr1: I just installed the linux-firmware-nonfree package. Does that have ralink firmware in it?
[16:42] <Nmbr1> skutr34: not sure - from doing some searches this seems to be a driver specific not Ubuntu specific issue
[16:42] <skutr34> Nmbr1: I am not sure. I do not have much networking experience.
[16:42] <ffio> k1l_: i want to built it from scratch starting from ground zero.
[16:42] <rblst> hello all
[16:42] <Nmbr1> skutr34: i'm sorry i can't help much on this one, if no one else can offer any suggestions i would try ##networking
[16:42] <skutr34> Nmbr1: I can connect fine on Windows.
[16:43] <k1l_> ffio: then read about "linux from scratch" . but that is too offtopic for this channel
[16:43] <rblst> kernel headers in /usr/src have eaten up almost 50% of my inodes; do i really need the kernel headers to be there?
[16:43] <skutr34> Nmbr1: Okay. I will do a reboot just for giggles and see if it does anything.
[16:43] <sixyearsofdreams> ffio
[16:43] <ffio> k1l_: ok
[16:43] <sixyearsofdreams> you better have some good coding background :D
[16:43] <ffio> sixyearsofdreams: in which lang ?
[16:43] <sixyearsofdreams> linux from scratch isnt easy
[16:44] <ffio> sixyearsofdreams: ok
[16:44] <sixyearsofdreams> ffio: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/
[16:44] <ffio> sixyearsofdreams: :)
[16:44] <sixyearsofdreams> like k1l_ said, best place to start :)
[16:44] <ffio> thanks k1l_ and sixyearsofdreams :)
[16:44] <Nmbr1> skutr34: see if the solution here (for a different version) works for you http://askubuntu.com/questions/178547/connection-drops-out-regularly-with-a-ralink-rt2800
[16:45] <Nmbr1> skutr34: there was also an LP ticket opened for Ubuntu and RT5390 3 months ago. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1173759
[16:46] <explodes> When I start up with an Ubuntu Server 13.04 CD, how do I drop into terminal?
[16:47] <explodes> Into any shell...
[16:47] <yeats> explodes: Alt-F2 (through F7)
[16:48] <explodes> yeats: None of those combos worked
[16:48] <trism> nedbat: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1367373/python-subprocess-popen-oserror-errno-12-cannot-allocate-memory/13329386#13329386
[16:49] <Desync> Hello, are there any directly affiliated ubuntu people in here
[16:49] <iceroot> explodes: its ctrl + alt + f1 to access tty1 not ctrl + f1
[16:49] <iceroot> !ask | Desync
[16:49] <yeats> iceroot: from a GUI, yes
[16:49] <nedbat> trism: can you answer questions I have about that answer?
[16:50] <yeats> in the debian installer environment, Alt-F1 through F7 should function
[16:51] <tubaguy50035> Hello all.  I have an Ubuntu VM on a VMWare cluster.  We're trying to restore a backup and the restored VM is hanging on "init: udev-fallback-graphics main process terminated".  Any thoughts what that might be?
[16:51] <yeats> explodes: what's your end goal, are you trying to install? rescue a system? etc.
[16:51] <trism> nedbat: would depend on the question I suppose
[16:53] <nedbat> trism: I thought fork() would mark pages as copy-on-write, because usually an execve is about to happen, so they'll never need to be actually copied.  Clearly, that's a naive understanding, because something else is happening here.  Can you explain the fuller picture?
[16:53] <backbox> getting really bored of linux problems someone can help me i have a ubuntu that i modified by adding kali tools to it.. the aircrack works perfectly but when i try backbox in live mode from a usb key i cant do injections...
[16:53] <sixyearsofdreams> whats backbo
[16:53] <sixyearsofdreams> x
[16:54] <wilee-nilee> backbox, none of that is supported here.
[16:54] <backbox> backbox 3.05
[16:54] <trism> nedbat: it is not necessarily about copy-on-write, the kernel still need to allocate structures during the fork which takes memory too
[16:54] <backbox> is a pentest tool
[16:55] <nedbat> trism: but I assume that memory is relatively small, no?
[16:55] <krz> can i do sudo apt-get install for two different applications? i.e. can i isntall 2 different applications at a time?
[16:55] <wilee-nilee> krz, Yes
[16:55] <Mathisen> apt-get install name name name name name
[16:55] <yeats> krz: you can 'sudo apt-get install app1 app2...'
[16:55] <Mathisen> as many as you like
[16:55] <krz> well i meant in two terminal windows
[16:55] <Desync> as far as the future of ubuntu to the consumer/business market, what are they planning to do in regards to integration/support for running certain critical applications (i.e. - Quickbooks with payroll for whatever latest calendar year it may be)? It seems to be the main thing keeping a majority of small business users from making the transition from microsoft. Myself being on of those in that possible customer base for their advanced suppo
[16:55] <Desync> rt they sell.
[16:55] <krz> now in one line
[16:56] <krz> now=not
[16:56] <wilee-nilee> krz, no
[16:56] <yeats> krz: nope
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> Desync  that's for #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:56] <Desync> thank you
[16:56] <trism> nedbat: plus there is the overcommit policy: sysctl vm.overcommit_memory; which on my ubuntu system is set to 0, so it makes choices about how much memory it allows you to overcommit
[16:58] <trism> nedbat: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/vm/overcommit-accounting
[16:58] <nedbat> trism: if I can read between the lines here: overcommiting means the fork() is alerting the OS that it will eventually need X pages, and if there aren't X pages available, it gets an out of mem error even without copying, but if I change this setting, it will let it continue?
[16:58] <trism> nedbat: yes you could try setting it to 1 and see what happens
[16:59] <trism> nedbat: may not work too well
[16:59] <nedbat> trism: understood (and assumed!) :)
[16:59] <nedbat> trism: thanks
[17:00] <krz> why isnt postgres 9.2 available in ubuntu package manager (apt-get)?
[17:02] <febLey> Where is the panel to set the mouse acceleration?
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> krz, Think about that question for a momoent.
[17:02] <krz> wilee-nilee: done
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> lol
[17:03] <jman074> Hello everyone
[17:03] <wilee-nilee> febLey, Might it be mouse & touchpad?
[17:03] <egolost> anyone having issues having to delete cookies to get into facebook with the 12.04.2 LTS?
[17:04] <egolost> On both firefox and chrome.
[17:04] <kostkon> krz, you could have a look at the ubuntu update policy if you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[17:04] <febLey> wilee-nilee not there anymore =/
[17:04] <wilee-nilee> febLey, what release?
[17:04] <febLey> 13.04
[17:04] <wilee-nilee> and desktop
[17:04] <Zal> Trying to upgrade a package. "apt-cache policy <package>" shows "Installed: 1.85-001, Candidate 1.85-002", but "apt-get install --reinstall <package>" tries to reinstall 001 instead of upgrading to 002. I've never seen this behavior before, can anyone tell me what might be causing it?
[17:04] <febLey> sure
[17:04] <wilee-nilee> febLey, Hmm it's in mine
[17:05] <febLey> i only have pointer speed and double click
[17:05] <kostkon> Zal, try cleaning your package cache and then retry, by giving:  sudo apt-get clean
[17:05] <krz> kostkon: ty
[17:06] <wilee-nilee> febLey, pointer speed is acceleration I believe it is just very developed I think.
[17:06] <Zal> kostkon, thanks, same result though, apt-get install uses the older package.
[17:06] <jman074> so im playing a game online and got to a certain point and a message from adobe popped up asking to allow or deny to save information on my computer. so for some reason i can't click on allow or deny! what do i do
[17:07] <febLey> wilee-nilee hmm
[17:07] <kostkon> Zal, are you getting any errors when trying to isntall your updates?  sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:07] <febLey> seems like this is it
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> febLey, sorry not very developed
[17:07] <BluesKaj> krz, look for postresSQL in the software center
[17:08] <febLey> wilee-nilee but can't i set the mouse sensivity seperate from the acceleration?
[17:08] <Zal> kostkon, I haven't tried "upgrade" yet, just "install --reinstall". What confuses me is that "install --reinstall" has always upgraded for me in the past, as far as I know.
[17:09] <Zal> kostkon, that said, this is a new version of ubuntu for me, so apt-get may be acting differently than I expect
[17:09] <BluesKaj> krz, my mistake , postgresSQL , rather
[17:09] <wilee-nilee> febLey, Not sure really, not an area I have had to tweak that often.
[17:09] <kostkon> Zal, maybe there are some dependency problems with that package
[17:10] <kostkon> Zal, try doing a sudo ap-get update and then try again
[17:10] <Zal> kostkon, could be, but in my case no attempt is made to install the new package at all. I did "update" a few times already, and "apt-cache policy" does see the newer candidate.
[17:11] <kostkon> Zal, that's strange yeah
[17:11] <kostkon> Zal, is the newer version coming from the same repo?
[17:11] <Zal> kostkon, ok, well thanks for verifying the strangeness :-) Yes, same repo, same priority, later version number.
[17:12] <kostkon> Zal, official ubuntu repo? then you could try changing your mirror
[17:12] <jman074>  so im playing a game online and got to a certain point and a message from adobe popped up asking to allow or deny to save information on my computer. so for some reason i can't click on allow or deny! what do i do
[17:12] <Zal> kostkon, no, this is my own repo, custom package
[17:13] <danielboston26> jman074:  ive seen that same issue
[17:13] <kostkon> Zal, oh. then i suppose you need to check again what deps have you set for that package
[17:13] <danielboston26> appears to be an adobe bug
[17:13] <jman074> danielboston26 any luck with it
[17:13] <Zal> kostkon, well, the thing is, those deps are never checked because apt never tries to install it
[17:13] <danielboston26> jman074:  its happened to me on mac and windows
[17:13] <abuscus> can you x11 forward mac applications?
[17:14] <kostkon> Zal, and if they are satisfiable by taking into account the package vers in the repos and in your own repo
[17:14] <kostkon> Zal, hmm
[17:14] <Zal> wierd, right?
[17:14] <danielboston26> jman074:  the only way ive found around it is to change premissions in the adobe preferances
[17:14] <kostkon> Zal, nevertheless, i believe something is wrong with your pacakge ;)
[17:14] <danielboston26> jman074:  is there such a thing on linux?
[17:14] <danielboston26> jman074:  on the mac its in system preferances
[17:15] <jman074> danielboston26 ive told it to allow but other then that i don't know.
[17:15] <danielboston26> jman074:  it could be the same on windows it might be a website
[17:15] <Zal> kostkon, there *is* something wrong with the older package, that's why I rebuilt it and tried to install the new one. Maybe something about that confused debconf/apt. (I've also purged debconf for that package)
[17:15] <xangua> jman074: so you mean a flash game¿ the inability to check those buttos is a fix that is never gonna be fixed; you can install adobe-flashplugin fron software center wich install a gtk settings manager for flash
[17:15] <kostkon> Zal, hmm
[17:15] <danielboston26> jman074:  can you click cancel?
[17:16] <jman074> danielboston26 i can't click anything
[17:16] <kostkon> Zal, so both are coming from your own repo
[17:16] <danielboston26> t only wants to save cookies to your system
[17:16] <Zal> kostkon, yes
[17:16] <danielboston26> jman074: if you can get into adobe preferances either allow all or tell it to stop bothering you
[17:16] <danielboston26> jman074: thats how i fixed it
[17:16] <Zal> kostkon, and apt-cache policy sees both!
[17:17] <Zal> definitely losing some beard over this one
[17:17] <danielboston26> jman074: you can try complaining to adobe but idk how succesful you will be
[17:17] <danielboston26> jman074:  that bug has been around fore awhil
[17:17] <kostkon> Zal, try killing the old one :P
[17:17] <kostkon> Zal, remove it from your repo
[17:17] <jman074> danielboston26 im looking at my options in there again. theres suppose to be a way you can manually select the allow button but pushin something with tab then hit enter but i don't remember
[17:17] <danielboston26> jman074: do you know if you have the current vesion of flash?
[17:17] <kostkon> Zal, oh what am i saying sorry
[17:18] <Zal> kostkon, hm, that actually worked: removing the package and then running apt-get install got me the new package
[17:18] <kostkon> Zal, eer i don't know what else to suggest. i havent really setup my own repo, apart from using ppas
[17:18] <Zal> nutty
[17:19] <Zal> kostkon, thanks for your help, I'm not sure I understand what's going on, but some progress is better than none :-)
[17:19] <kostkon> Zal, lol it was simple after all
[17:19] <kostkon> Zal, indeed
[17:19] <Zal> yeah, but I need to upgrade in place as well. I'll have to figure out what happened somehow.
[17:20] <Zal> perhaps if the older package doesn't fail to install then the new one will be used next time.
[17:20] <kostkon> Zal, probably
[17:20] <Zal> kostkon, cool, appreciate the conversation/debugging
[17:20] <BenjaminRH> Hey. I'm having an odd problem with a fresh install of 13.04 on a new laptop.
[17:21] <kostkon> Zal, no probs :)
[17:21] <linux_hacks> BenjaminRH: Whats that
[17:21] <BenjaminRH> When I boot up, Ubuntu skips showing grub at all, and the screen goes black. If I close the lid (to put it to sleep) then wake it up again, everything works fine.
[17:22] <BenjaminRH> I've got an nvidia discrete card and an integrated intel one, with optimus, which might be a culprit. Bumblebee can't seem to find the card and nothing shows up in additional drivers, but lspci finds it
[17:22] <holstein> BenjaminRH: i like to call that a "work-around" ;)
[17:23] <sveinse> What going on with the ubuntu.com website? It soooo slow. All others respond quickly
[17:23] <linux_hacks> well.. Nvidia card has problem but it shouldn't be problem with Ubuntu atleast
[17:23] <holstein> BenjaminRH: you'll need to purge whatever PA's to do an constructive support here.. you might prefer to just go with the bumblebee team
[17:23] <venkat> has anybody tried beaker test automation tool in ubuntu
[17:23] <BenjaminRH> holstein: PA?
[17:24] <holstein> BenjaminRH: ppa's
[17:24] <BenjaminRH> holstein: this is another fresh install, it shouldn't have any
[17:25] <holstein> BenjaminRH: i didnt know bumblebee was added to the repos, sorry
[17:25] <BenjaminRH> ah
[17:26] <BenjaminRH> oh hang on
[17:28] <BenjaminRH> I take that back. It seems I did add x-swat
[17:28] <michoo_> hello
[17:28] <BenjaminRH> Alright. Let me reinstall and try that again
[17:28] <michoo_> how can i configure my wireless in ubuntu 13.04????
[17:28] <holstein> BenjaminRH: ppa's arent officiay supported, which is a drag for you since you need those packages likely for the dula GPU
[17:28] <michoo_> plz help
[17:28] <holstein> dual*
[17:29] <holstein> !wifi
[17:29] <holstein> michoo_: ^^
[17:29] <BenjaminRH> holstein: i have no problem just disabling the second gpu entirely.
[17:29] <michoo_> yes its wifi
[17:29] <BenjaminRH> holstein: I have no idea how to do that, though
[17:29] <holstein> BenjaminRH: sure.. but, you need support for it, AFAIK.. thats the way mine works
[17:29] <holstein> BenjaminRH: there is not bios switch for mine
[17:29] <BenjaminRH> holstein: or mine
[17:30] <arooni-mobile> i just ran the SMART long test; and disk utility reports i have 2179 pending sectors;  i think this is 'bad sectors'.  all other hard drive tests pass.  is this hard drive going to die soon?
[17:33] <wilee-nilee> arooni-mobile, How would we know?
[17:34] <wilee-nilee> alll HD's die eventually it is not as if they inform you.
[17:34] <michoo_> my /etc/network/interfaces is empty
[17:35] <wilee-nilee> arooni-mobile, being backed up is your insurance if it happens.
[17:35] <wilee-nilee> michoo_, Can you identify the card?
[17:36] <michoo_> i have pavillion tx2000
[17:36] <netlar> Interesting, just read this http://blog.projectnibble.org/2010/08/08/how-ubuntus-broken-bluetooth-support-came-to-be/
[17:37] <wilee-nilee> michoo_, Lok at the link you will notice tons of links, in order t get help here we need exact hardware.
[17:37] <netlar> Seems to be lots of problems with bluetooth
[17:38] <michoo_> i wanna try backports but i cant find it for 13.04
[17:39] <wilee-nilee> michoo_, If you just randomly try to fix this you will most likely not get it done, you have to start with identifying the wireless hardware period.
[17:40]  * mecool :)
[17:41] <netlar> Why is Ubuntu not using Bluez 5?
[17:41] <michoo_> its Broadcom
[17:42] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | michoo_
[17:43] <michoo_> bcmwl5
[17:43] <bhearsum> where can i find the list of _actual_ dns servers being used? /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf points at dnsmasq, and /var/lib/misc/dnsmasq.leases is empty on my system...
[17:43] <bhearsum> as is /etc/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.conf
[17:44] <michoo_> broadcom  bcmwl5
[17:46] <netlar> Maybe they will be including Bluez 5 in 13.10?
[17:46] <wilee-nilee> michoo_, Take a look at the last bot link, generally this channel does not do everything for you, if you can't do it then you may find someone who will try to help you, but those people can be hard to find at times. ;)
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> empathy is a scarce commodity
[17:47] <marlinc> :o the teaser was removed from the Ubuntu website
[17:48] <wilee-nilee> marlinc, The 4 days until one?
[17:48] <marlinc> Yup
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> marlinc, I figured it was stallman was god and shutleworth his child
[17:49] <trism> netlar: bug 1162781
[17:49] <marlinc> Lol :P
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> linus is the holy ghost
[17:50] <BluesKaj> bhearsum, your modem/router is probly autoseet to your ISP's dns server, and setting it to the google dns might be your best bet if you use network manager to mange your connections
[17:50] <bhearsum> BluesKaj: right...but how do i see what it _is_ set to?
[17:50] <bhearsum> i'm trying to help debug an issue with my local network
[17:51] <BluesKaj> bhearsum, can you access your modem/router settings ?
[17:51] <netlar> trism: Thanks
[17:51] <bhearsum> BluesKaj: no - i'm on a corporate network
[17:51] <bhearsum> and part of what i'm debugging is what the dhcp server is giving me
[17:52] <anonee> hello folks! is it normal that on GNOME Applications menu if I right-click an item it just opens? just like when i left-click it? and why when I drag any item to the desktop it makes a link there, except for home, I had to make a link using terminal, one last question: is it OK to make a hard link to my home folder on my desktop? or the overlapping will cause problems to some apps?
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> anonee, What release and what desktop?
[17:53] <anonee> wilee-nilee its 12.04.2 GNOME Classic 3.4 (fallback mode)
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> anonee, dconfeditor has the add home..etc
[17:55] <randomperson3089> Hi there! Funny question, can I install Ubuntu without X at all?
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> no
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> as a server yes
[17:55] <trism> anonee: the right click to mess with items in the Applications menu was removed a while ago, now it is just a regular menu, and you can right click all of those
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> randomperson3089, There are a ton of light desktops if that is your general goal.
[17:57] <BluesKaj> bhearsum, so what is your network issue and how does it relate to dns ?
[17:57] <anonee> trism I've heard the same but for the panel, now I have to <Super>+<Alt>+right-click to modify or delete something, but even this is not working on menu items :(
[17:57] <bhearsum> BluesKaj: my issue is that i'd like to know what dns servers are actually being used to resolve things
[17:59] <BluesKaj> bhearsum, check /etc/resolv.conf
[17:59] <bhearsum> BluesKaj: that points at 127.0.1.1, which is dnsmasq...
[17:59] <trism> anonee: if you are using the compiz fallback session that's true, compiz can capture that sequence, so it is kind of buggy
[17:59] <trism> anonee: it works fine with just alt+right click in the metacity session
[17:59] <BluesKaj> there are no nameservers listed there , bhearsum ?
[18:00] <bhearsum> BluesKaj: nameserver 127.0.1.1
[18:00] <trism> anonee: oh sorry I misread that, again the code was removed to modify the menu items at all
[18:00] <trism> anonee: they are just normal menu items now
[18:00] <BluesKaj> bhearsum, what about network manager
[18:01] <k1l_> randomperson3089: do a server install
[18:01] <trism> anonee: https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-panel/commit/?id=c1ab7e84f6478a826a746d5999d95f2fcbe13d4f
[18:01] <SuperLag> Any of you use do OCR with your Ubuntu installs? if so, what do you use?
[18:02] <bhearsum> BluesKaj: which part of NetworkManager? the section associated with my current connection has nothing in it
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> !any | SuperLag
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> !anyone
[18:03] <anonee> trism i see, so how can i tell where this item is taking its icon from (for example), btw I added a "scripts" item to the right-click menu and I'm dragging an item to the desktop, right-clicking that item to know where it's taking it's icon from, but the script is showing only the icon name but no path, which is useless... any idea?
[18:04] <anonee> its*
[18:05] <Anninha> Oi
[18:05] <Anninha> OIi
[18:05] <Anninha> Olá
[18:05] <randomperson3089> Hmm.. there is no X in server install? I thought there was...
[18:05] <k1l_> randomperson3089: no
[18:06] <trism> anonee: it will come from the current icon theme if it is just a name, though it can be a bit challenging to find since themes can inherit from each other, so you may need to search through several to find the icon
[18:08] <yann2> Hi guys! About 10 hours ago there was a big teaser on ubuntu.com about "Two surfaces coming together" or something like that, with an announcement like "4 days left". Now it's just gone? So no announcement? :'(
[18:08] <anonee> trism I've gone through all the inheritance way but no joy, I'm dealing with a special case, but what about the page link you sent I'm new to this, is it a script that I can use to add back that function?
[18:08] <p0lym47h> #help
[18:09] <trism> anonee: no that's just the commit that removed the functionality, it would technically be possible to add it back, but I think it would still be broken for gtk3 so not much use without further work
[18:10] <trism> anonee: which icon are you looking for?
[18:11] <anonee> trism it's called minbar it's for prayer times
[18:12] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: as you can see.... I *did* ask my question.
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> SuperLag, No that was a poll, and off topic.
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> !poll
[18:12] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: it's not a poll. jesus.
[18:12] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: I've never done OCR on a Linux box. I'm wondering what works.
[18:13] <QnD> hi all - does anyone know a good netstat graphical monitor for gnome...  I need to also log port connections without IPT
[18:13] <medoo> hey guys , what software should i use to make usb ( ubuntu install )
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> SuperLag, the channel makes th e rules it is pretty straight forward this is support, state a problem if you have one not a drama fest.
[18:13] <trism> anonee: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/128x128/apps/minbar.png is that the icon?
[18:13] <reisio> medoo: from Windows?
[18:13] <medoo> windows 7
[18:13] <reisio> medoo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#From_Windows
[18:14] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: I just did. For the second time. Your rudeness is unbecoming.
[18:14] <reisio> SuperLag: tesseract, ocrad
[18:14] <medoo> reisio : from a day ago 2 supporters give me a name of another one !
[18:15] <QnD> <- did alot of work with tesseract
[18:15] <SuperLag> reisio: are those just backends, and they require some front end to work, as well?
[18:15] <SuperLag> QnD: ^^
[18:15] <kostkon> !unetbootin | medoo
[18:15] <medoo> i tried unebootine and say to me BOOTMGR not found
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> SuperLag, top of a OCR ubuntu google search https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OCR
[18:15] <kostkon> medoo, ah
[18:16] <medoo> is there alternative to unetbootin
[18:16] <reisio> SuperLag: if they're any good they're backends, yes
[18:16] <reisio> medoo: think I just gave you one
[18:16] <medoo> ?
[18:17] <medoo> i think there's one called onforecorder or something
[18:17] <reisio> why think when you can query your package manager
[18:17] <gribouille> hi
[18:17] <reisio> hi gribouille
[18:18] <gribouille> I have want to install several ubuntu versions on lvm volumes, do I ahve to create several /boot partitions?
[18:18] <SuperLag> Oh yeah. Speaking of querying package managers. I see apt-cache search queries both name and description by default. There's also a switch to query name only. Can you query the description only?
[18:18] <QnD> if u want to PM me I have a ton of info on tesseract,  API and training aswell
[18:18] <reisio> gribouille: you don't even have to create one
[18:18] <reisio> gribouille: but why install several
[18:19] <reisio> SuperLag: if you can't with apt-cache, you no doubt can with some other tool
[18:19] <gribouille> reisio, because I don't to upgrade in place
[18:19] <SuperLag> reisio: I'm wasn't aware there were other options.
[18:19] <gribouille> reisio, do you mean there is no need of /boot partitions?
[18:19] <medoo> !help
[18:19] <SuperLag> QnD: done.
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> medoo, What is your goal here?
[18:20] <reisio> gribouille: in general, yes, no need
[18:20] <medoo> i wanna a program for USB install ubuntu ( in windows )
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> medoo, Take a look at pendrivelinux there are several, and be sure to check the sum on the ISO.
[18:21] <medoo> ?
[18:21] <reisio> medoo: you've already been given several
[18:21] <medoo> ??
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> medoo, a ? means nothing.
[18:21] <medoo> means what you are talking about
[18:22] <holstein> medoo: i use unetbootin.. used to use it in windows
[18:22] <wilee-nilee> !attitude | medoo
[18:22] <gribouille> reisio, but I recently installed raring, and the installer used lvm, but it created a separate /boot partition
[18:22] <holstein> medoo: we are talking about suggestions to the question you asked.. pendrivelinux and unetbootin
[18:22] <SuperLag> holstein: interesting. I thought unetbootin was just a Linux util.
[18:22] <QnD> superLag ????
[18:22] <medoo> unerbootin as a made with , give me BOOTMGR not found
[18:22] <holstein> SuperLag: i used to use it in windows..
[18:22] <SuperLag> QnD: sent you a PM
[18:22] <reisio> gribouille: probably just convention for that version
[18:22] <arc__> hi i have a question when i upgraded i lost all of my packages
[18:22] <holstein> medoo: i format before each use..
[18:23] <reisio> arc__: there should be a log in /var/ you can use to get them back
[18:23] <wilee-nilee> arc__, How did you upgrade?
[18:23] <euxneks> medoo, also make sure the iso you're using is a liveCD
[18:23] <holstein> medoo: if the stick is bad, or the iso is bad, the software wont "fix" it
[18:23] <gribouille> reisio, how do I do If I want to put everything on lvm?
[18:23] <QnD> ok
[18:23] <arc__> i use a live usb and the upgrade install
[18:23] <reisio> manually, no doubt
[18:23] <SuperLag> reisio: that's going to suck for him. :)
[18:24] <reisio> yeah, but so will wasting time doing multiple installs, too
[18:24] <arc__> where in /var/ will the log be
[18:24] <SuperLag> reisio: agreed
[18:24] <david_> Hello everyone, quick question: I'm installing Ubuntu on a netbook that has two ssd disks: one with 4GB and another with 8GB. Can I create two logical partitions with the two disks both with mount point on / ?
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> arc__, I guess there is s option to save your stuff, I am not sure of it myself, are you backed up?
[18:24] <gribouille> reisio, do you mean choose the volume for / manually?
[18:25] <arc__> if this help it said in the upgrade unable to restore packages
[18:25] <medoo> holstein : i'm trying now , thanks for resonable answer...
[18:25] <localh0st> how can i restore my all repositories to default?
[18:25] <localh0st> i want to delete all additional ppa's etc
[18:25] <holstein> !ppapurge | localh0st
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> localh0st, http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[18:26] <holstein> localh0st: you can just overwrite the sources, but that wont automatcially downgrade packages AFAIK
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> arc__, So no backups?
[18:26] <localh0st> yeah, but there is a problem..
[18:28] <reisio> gribouille: sufficeth to say it can be done
[18:28] <localh0st> holstein: wilee-nilee http://pastebin.com/77n7SQ6r
[18:28] <reisio> gribouille: what do you want LVM for? What do you want multiple installs for?
[18:28] <david_> Can two diferent logical partitions have the same mount point ?
[18:29] <reisio> david_: sure
[18:29] <holstein> !ppapurge | localh0st again, this is what i would try to use to purge the ppa that is an issue
[18:29] <david_> so if I do that I'll see both partitons as one?
[18:29] <reisio> david_: no, by default one will mount over the other
[18:29] <anonee> trism sorry I got disconnected, so any idea about how to downgrade from kernel 3.9 to 3.5 or anything between?
[18:29] <arc__> no there is no backups
[18:29] <reisio> david_: and you'll only see the last mounted
[18:29] <arc__> only xp
[18:29] <wilee-nilee> localh0st, You running in root or just running the terminal on root?
[18:30] <reisio> david_: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UnionFS#Other_implementations
[18:30] <Taek> Morning folks.
[18:30] <reisio> mornin'
[18:30] <localh0st> teriminal on root wilee-nilee
[18:31] <localh0st> wilee-nilee: sudo su
[18:31] <anonee> Taek it's evening here, so peace 24/7
[18:31] <wilee-nilee> localh0st, cool not a good practice.
[18:31] <wilee-nilee> especially sudo su
[18:31] <david_> reisio that is what I want, thanks
[18:31] <wilee-nilee> use sudo and sudo -i but sudo is all you need
[18:32] <david_> I want the system to see both disks as one
[18:32] <Kurlon> Afternoon all.  I'm playing with an old G4 that's hampered by a Rage 128 video card.  The last step to getting it fully working is building a modified version of the mesa-legacy package out of the xorg crach pushers team PPA.
[18:32] <reisio> david_: lvm could manage it from another direction as well, depends on what you're up to which is best no doubt
[18:32] <anonee> Taek how to downgrade the linux kernel? I have 3.9 and want anything below maybe 3.5 is fine... dunno
[18:32] <Kadgjmrtjmwt> ignore this, testin'
[18:32] <Kurlon> Is there a walkthrough on how to pull down the src package, tweak, and kickoff a build I could check out?
[18:33] <Taek> anonee: for what purpose?
[18:33] <holstein> !ppc | Kurlon
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> arc__, I don't know of any way to get what you missing, which you have not really described, in the circumstances you used, I would suggest though starting a backup schema in general.
[18:33] <abuscus> gnome-do alternatives?
[18:33] <Kurlon> Yup, fully aware it's no longer officially supported.  Hence why I'm dabbling under the hood with power tools. :D
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> abuscus, synapse is nice
[18:34] <david_> reisio the netbook has two sdd's one with 4gb and another with 8gb and I would like make only one 12gb disk, nothing too fancy
[18:34] <semen_dickman> Yooooo
[18:34] <arc__> all my package have gone after upgrade
[18:34] <anonee> Taek installing vmware player it seems incompatible, also there are some crashes and I wanna check if they could disappear if i downgrade
[18:34] <holstein> !info kupfer | anonee
[18:34] <semen_dickman> Waaazuppp mugggaz
[18:34] <holstein> abuscus: ^^
[18:34] <abuscus> thanks
[18:34] <reisio> abuscus: http://alternativeto.net/software/launchit/?platform=linux
[18:34] <holstein> sorry for the accidental highlight anonee
[18:34] <semen_dickman> Ubottu u sin of s bitch
[18:35] <reisio> david_: lvm might be more appropriate, do some reading
[18:35] <anonee> nvm holstein
[18:36] <david_> reisio thanks !
[18:36] <anonee> can anyone give me any info about how to downgrade my kernel from 3.9?
[18:36] <Taek> anonee: http://askubuntu.com/questions/257617/how-can-i-upgrade-the-ubuntu-12-04-2-kernel-to-3-5-0-23
[18:37] <hermatize> anyone want to do a side job installing this on Ubuntu, pm me :: https://code.grnet.gr/projects/flowspy/repository/revisions/9f54980ac91d1540c085c04f3ede44ffa66aa03f/entry/README.txt
[18:37] <holstein> abuscus: any package manager really.. assuming you have the kernel in your sources you want
[18:38] <anonee> Taek this is upgrade
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> anonee  the current kernel is 3.8, how did you get 3.9? if it was a PPA, delete it
[18:38] <k1l_> anonee: how come you have a 3.9 kernel?
[18:39] <Taek> anonee: I don't think there is away to do what you want.
[18:39] <anonee> MonkeyDust how can i delete it? yes it's a PPA, should I just remove the corresponding PPA line? and then? k1l?
[18:40] <Taek> not without messing some thing up seriously
[18:40] <k1l_> !ppa-purge | anonee
[18:40] <devmedo> i have a problem > i made an usb install ubuntu 13.04 with unetbootin , then when i go to step 3 and select ubuntu inside windows 7 , click continue , laptop reboot and windows starts , i've checked the iso ( it's md5 is correct )
[18:40] <Taek> anonee: why not try to use VirtualBox by Oracle?
[18:40] <anonee> really Taek?
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> devmedo, Can you boot the live cd and take a screen shot of gparted and imagebin it?
[18:41] <anonee> Taek it's slow, I'm currently using it btw, and trying wine but there r some serious language problems, I'm trying to understand more about locales...
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> devmedo, YOu still trying a wubi or a partitioned install?
[18:42] <Taek> Well what are you trying to do with said virtual software?
[18:42] <devmedo> wille-nilee : i made usb install ..... , the live ubuntu is working
[18:42] <sveinse> I have a laptop with two disks, and win7 lives on sda and ubuntu (12.10) on sdb. Since ubuntu, windows has been installed and overwriten the MBR. I'd like to grub to install MBR on /dev/sdb ONLY. How can I do that within the Ubuntu scheme?
[18:42] <wilee-nilee> devmedo, So wubi is different than a partitioned install, so we need to isolate your goal here.
[18:43] <sveinse> I find no reference to which disk(s) to install grub to in /etc/defaults/grub
[18:43] <tlopez> what is a good software to rip subtitles from DVDs
[18:44] <devmedo> wilee-nilee : what do you mean?
[18:44] <BluesKaj> sveinse, actually not a good idea , grub works fine on the mbr of sda , just do sudo os-prober then sudo update-grub
[18:44] <devmedo> wilee-nilee : ubuntu 13.04 has no wubi
[18:44] <devmedo> so i made usb
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> devmedo, A install inside of windows is called a wubi it is just a file in windows and the disc does not install it. A partitioned install is in a partition.
[18:45] <Sazpaimon> can anyone please confirm if the latest bcmwl drivers support the new 802.11ac cards?
[18:45] <holstein> Sazpaimon: not without a device in front of me to test with... i would just fire it up and see
[18:45] <tlopez> what is a good software to rip subtitles from DVDs
[18:45] <devmedo> wilee-nilee : install inside windows appeard in step 3 in ubuntu install!!
[18:46] <holstein> !patience | tlopez
[18:46] <sveinse> BluesKaj, I had grub on sda before. But since sdb with Ubuntu is removable, taking the disk away confuses grub on sda and unables me to boot windows.
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> tlopez  first hit, ogmrip, it's in the repos http://www.my-guides.net/en/guides/linux-dvd-video/how-to-rip-dvd-subtitles-to-srt-in-linux
[18:46] <Sazpaimon> holstein, I just purchased a new broadcom 11ac adapter for my laptop and am just trying to guage my expectations
[18:46] <tlopez> MonkeyDust: I need the sub file
[18:46] <tlopez> not video file
[18:46] <spillere> i have a bunch of image files named with the danels
[18:46] <Sazpaimon> I've read that the BCM4360 chip that comes in the newer macbook pros is supported by this driver, but the chip in mine is BCM4352
[18:46] <holstein> Sazpaimon: sure.. plug it in and try it... and save the reciept.. i have my expecations where they have always been for broadcom.. not very high
[18:47] <devmedo> !patience | devmedo
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> devmedo, IT can be confusing if you are new user, the wubi setup is basically been put in no support anymore, so we generally try to get people to do a standard install, it is easier to deeal with and more stable.
[18:47] <spillere> i have a bunch of image files named with the date, as 2013-07-18_19-06-05.jpeg, how can I get all of them and make a video?
[18:47] <hermatize> anyone want to do a side job installing this on Ubuntu, pm me :: https://code.grnet.gr/projects/flowspy/repository/revisions/9f54980ac91d1540c085c04f3ede44ffa66aa03f/entry/README.txt
[18:47] <Sazpaimon> the only difference is the 4360 is 3x3 and the BCM4352 is 2x2
[18:47] <holstein> !broadcom | Sazpaimon
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> tlopez  read the blue title, what does it say
[18:47] <sveinse> I set up sdb to have higher bootpri than sda in BIOS. sdb comes with grub and can load linux and win7 from sda. However sda still needs to use the vanilla win bootloader
[18:47] <devmedo> wilee-nilee beleive me it's not wubi!!!!!
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> hermatize, That is considered spam to the channel, and very off topic.
[18:47] <anonee> Taek they're arabic programs mostly. for example there's one program called Quran searcher it works great on XP and 7, and I wanna make it work here, I'm trying hard to make it work on wine because you know it's gonna be the same system, not a virtual environment, however, I compared vmware to vbox under windows XP and 7 hosts and I have to say vmware is a lot faster, I like vbox's options and flexibility, and the ease of use more than vmware but vmware is stil
[18:47] <anonee> l better because it's really faster I don't know what they're doing exactly but it's a great work
[18:48] <Sazpaimon> my biggest concern is that there doesnt appear to be XP drivers for BCM4352, so if it doesn't work, I can't even use ndiswrapper :/
[18:48] <mjayk> devmedo: I agree with you there is no wubi for 13.04 etc, but just thought could it be possible to upgrade -d a 12.04 wubi install ?
[18:48] <mjayk> devmedo: just a thought, but you are correct
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> tlopez  nvm, it's no longer in the repos, just tried
[18:48] <holstein> Sazpaimon: just try it, friend.. you should be able to load that module on the live CD
[18:48] <Sazpaimon> holstein, I'll have to build it actually
[18:48] <BluesKaj> sveinse, then remove the sda disk , then use you live media ubuntu disk or usb stick and run sudo grub-install /dev/sdb , then when you reinsert the the removable drive , do sudo update -grub in ubuntu
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> devmedo, Right, however you described a install in windows that would be a wubi. What I am trying to do here is disciver exactly what type of install you want that is the jist here, then we can move to installing.
[18:49] <QnD> the bcm43xx has alot of info on that chipset via BackTrack.  they actually explain it well.  please excuse the distro reference
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> discover*
[18:49] <QnD> it is ubuntu based however
[18:49] <Sazpaimon> bcmwl 6.30.223.30 is staged to be in 13.10, which of course isnt out yet, so i'll need to backport it
[18:50] <holstein> Sazpaimon: there are live 13.10 iso's i would try as a test for that before doing too much work
[18:50] <devmedo> mjayk : wubi in 12.04 not working correctly the in-folder iso trick is not working , i mean that i've downloaded also 12.04 LTS iso
[18:51] <Sazpaimon> looks like it was published into saucy 19 days ago, so I'm guessing a nightly livecd will give me an answer then
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> mjayk, There is a wubi for 13.04, the both of you are misinformed, and might ask proper questions to get actual help.
[18:51] <mjayk> wilee-nilee: there is not im sorry
[18:51] <Sazpaimon> i'll see in a couple weeks, getting it from china so I'll have to wait for it to arrive
[18:52] <holstein> mjayk: i would do what i would do for *any* upgrade.. make proper backups, and be prepared for failure
[18:52] <devmedo> wilee-nilee give me the download!
[18:52] <mjayk> holstein: i dont understand you sorry
[18:52] <spillere> is there a good way to create video out of images?
[18:53] <blazemore> spillere: Do you mean like a photo slideshow? Or a fast movie where each image is one frame?
[18:53] <holstein> mjayk: i thought you were asking if you can upgrade a 12.04 if it is a wubi install? correct?
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> devmedo, http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/   mjayk look at the bottom link.
[18:53] <mjayk> holstein: yes so someone thought they installed 13.04 via wubi :), that was my thought
[18:53] <devmedo> ok , i'll try and answer you
[18:53] <holstein> mjayk: no matter what answer i read, or get here, from anyone, i would backup my data, on *any* installation of any OS before upgrading
[18:54] <spillere> blazemore: a time lapse video. i was trying ffmpeg, but iy says its deprecated
[18:54] <spillere> blazemore: and cant find a command to do it
[18:54] <holstein> mjayk: the upgrade should work, but you should always have a backup and plan for failure
[18:54] <mjayk> holstein: sorry i dont see how anything to do with data backing regardless of the installation type relates in any way to my question lol
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> mjayk, Ubuntu officailly does not support the 13.04 wubi, however they asked for those that would, the user bcbc the only real helper in that app slipped that in for 13.04.
[18:55] <holstein> mjayk: whats the question? can you upgrade you 12.04 intall? sure.. and you are encouraged to backup, regardless of wubi or not
[18:55] <sveinse> BluesKaj: I ran grub-install on /dev/sdb and booted into ubuntu. I didn't have to run update-grub to get it to work. Does this imply that update-grub never decides on installing MBR and bootloaders anywhere, it merely updates grub.cfg?
[18:55] <holstein> mjayk: there will be no "sure, you are guaranteed success with your wubi install of 12.04.. nothind bad will happen"
[18:56] <sveinse> BluesKaj: So thanks
[18:56] <mjayk> holstein: the question was - can you upgrade wubi 12.04 to 13.04 , the answer would be yes, no , maybe
[18:56] <kostkon> spillere, tried this? https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/photofilmstrip/
[18:56] <holstein> mjayk: the answer is the same as it it were *any* os.. have backups and do the upgrade
[18:56] <devmedo> wilee-nilee it gave me " the request not supported "
[18:56] <blazemore> haha kostkon I was just about to link that
[18:56] <spillere> kostkon: i only have access to the terminal :)
[18:56] <kostkon> blazemore, :P
[18:56] <mjayk> holstein: the answer has nothing to do with backups :)
[18:56] <holstein> mjayk: "can" is not eh problem.. you are looking for a "this wont break" answer
[18:56] <blazemore> spillere: ffmpeg will work
[18:56] <holstein> the*
[18:56] <Guest22086> is this a good place to get some ubuntu firefox flash player help?
[18:57] <blazemore> !ask | Guest22086
[18:57] <holstein> mjayk: it "should" be fine, and no one can guarantee that
[18:57] <Guest22086> okay lol
[18:57] <reisio> spillere: way to cross post :p
[18:57] <mjayk> holstein: the question was related to a user who was on 13.04 and said he installed via wubi, as you can tell the upgrade HAS been performed so backup options are pretty useless
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> devmedo, I'm not sure how to run it, I tried wubi a couple of years ago as many needed help, buthave not kept up with it.
[18:57] <kostkon> spillere, apt-cache policy photofilmstrip? what does it say? also check apt-cache policy videoporama
[18:57] <holstein> mjayk: so, whats the issue with the 13.04 install?
[18:57] <kostkon> spillere, oh you mean no gui right
[18:58] <devmedo> wilee-nilee : so there's alternative to wubi?
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> devmedo, For best help on it though stsrt a thread at the ubuntu forums with wubi in the header and bcbc will drop by your best helper in it.
[18:58] <devmedo> to make along side windows 7
[18:58] <spillere> kostkon: yeah, only ssh into terminal :)
[18:58] <devmedo> wilee-nilee ;  anyforu ms don't help
[18:58] <reisio> devmedo: yes there is
[18:58] <devmedo> reisio : plzz what?
[18:58] <holstein> mjayk: the upgrade obviously worked, and you are trying to see if the upgrade caused the issue? it could have, and not had anything to do with the wubi.. there is not enough information to say
[18:58] <blazemore> devmedo: The normal Ubuntu installer can resize your Windows partition and install Ubuntu into the newly created free space
[18:58] <reisio> devmedo: why not just install Ubuntu the normal way?
[18:59] <devmedo> when i come to step 3 and countinue and reboot and doesn't install!!
[18:59] <reisio> devmedo: the normal way that happens?
[18:59] <devmedo> yes
[18:59] <arc__> i have put it on there http://askubuntu.com/questions/321990/packages-gone-in-upgrade
[18:59] <devmedo> and i've checked md5
[18:59] <reisio> that sounds like a fundamental problem with your hardware and the installer, then
[19:00] <wolftune> so, I'm moving to a new computer, different particular make and model. Is there a reason to do somethign different than copying over my whole /home folder? Are there certain settings I might not want copied over?
[19:00] <reisio> basically no matter what installation process you use, it all ends up using the same scripts
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> devmedo, Yes the alongside is standard, however you really want to have a unallocated space first by using the windows partitioner the disk mange to resize windows. But there are limitations on types and amounts of partitions on a single HD, so to get to the matter directly boot the live cd take a screen shot of gparted and imagebin it. This is for a standard install not a wubi.
[19:00] <reisio> devmedo: what happens when you reboot?
[19:00] <holstein> wolftune: grab it all, and test.. and remove anything that becomes problematic
[19:00] <wolftune> holstein: so it'll be pretty safe?
[19:00] <devmedo> i have laptop hp pavilion g6-1151ex , core i5 , 4gb memory , 500gb hd + reisio : the windows starts
[19:01] <reisio> devmedo: course it does, that OS was installed by a professional who had that specific hardware in mind
[19:01] <wolftune> Any reason to hesitate like where I know things are different, such as the wireless drivers and vid drivers? Anything in /home touch those?
[19:01] <reisio> devmedo: so you install Ubuntu, reboot, and only Windows boots?
[19:01] <holstein> wolftune: it'll be as safe as it is.. the data is yours, so the safeness will be from you and the apps you run
[19:01] <Pandee> I am trying to install GASP for python, and some of the steps don't show up in my version of ubuntu. Can anyone hint to me where to look for the highlighted steps? http://pastebin.com/tWL7sBfx
[19:01] <devmedo> no ubuntu doesn't begain install
[19:01] <wolftune> holstein: I meant not really "safe" but like, avoiding bugginess
[19:01] <reisio> devmedo: you'll have to be more specific
[19:02] <devmedo> step 4 is the begain of installtion
[19:02] <wolftune> like maybe there's advantages to trying to be picky to be clean
[19:02] <holstein> wolftune: if you have "buginess", remove the config, a new one will spawn, and test
[19:02] <wolftune> but I'm pretty good, had no bugs before
[19:02] <saiarcot895> Pandee: for step a, use the Start Menu/Dash and type in Software & Sources
[19:02] <wolftune> ok, better to do it that way than to try to guess one-by-one as I move things over
[19:02] <wolftune> thanks
[19:02] <devmedo> step 3 is the choose of replace windows 7 , instal inside windows 7 , and the third idon't remember
[19:03] <holstein> wolftune: i would just put them all over, and move out things that are problematic..
[19:03] <reisio> devmedo: you'll have to be more specific :/
[19:03] <devmedo> install^
[19:03] <reisio> devmedo: "it doesn't work" is hard to debug
[19:03] <Pandee> saiarcot895: the only thing that comes up is the Ubuntu Software Center
[19:03] <reisio> you've got to say at what point it doesn't work, and how
[19:03] <saiarcot895> Pandee: what version are you using?
[19:04] <Pandee> saiarcot895: 12.04
[19:04] <devmedo> reisio : how more specific??! , i said that when i go step 3 and click countinue , the laptop reboots
[19:04] <Pandee> saiarcot895: LTS
[19:04] <devmedo> step 3 i'll gave you an example for it
[19:04] <reisio> devmedo: try the minimal install image, then
[19:04] <saiarcot895> Pandee: If you type in Software, you don't get Software Sources?
[19:04] <devmedo> http://assets.ubuntu.com/sites/ubuntu/511/u/img/download/desktop-1204-install-4.jpg
[19:05] <QnD> sorry superlag connection dropped... sent you info in PM and my email if u need any help
[19:05] <devmedo> no i can't make an original image
[19:05] <devmedo> it's an example
[19:05] <Pandee> saiarcot895: no i dont
[19:05] <devmedo> and it gave me inside not alongside
[19:05] <reisio> devmedo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> reisio, If I might interject devmedo has never done this and will need a helper all through this first install, there is a lot of missing underatnding.
[19:06] <saiarcot895> Pandee: actually, I'll stop you there because in his PPA (https://launchpad.net/~mattva01/+archive/ppa), he doesn't have any software available specifically for 12.04 (Precise)
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> understanding*
[19:06] <saiarcot895> Pandee: so even if you add that, you won't get anything
[19:06] <reisio> wilee-nilee: the channel isn't going anywhere
[19:06] <devmedo> wilee-nilee : no comment
[19:06] <saiarcot895> Pandee: you have python-gasp in the repos
[19:07] <saiarcot895> !info python-gasp | Pandee
[19:07] <saiarcot895> Pandee: you can just do "sudo apt-get install python-gasp"
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> reisio, Right however we have not even seen if this is a oem with 4 primaries to start with, just saying install with this is irresponsible in this context, we know of no backups as of yet.
[19:07] <Pandee> saiarcot895: okay, i'll give that a try
[19:08] <wolftune> holstein: what's the best command here? I shouldn't copy over the old stuff via sudo should I? And should I do anything to first remove the existing stuff in /home from the system install?
[19:08] <starkiller> hello XD
[19:08] <devmedo> reisio : i'm disappointed from ubuntu linux , i thought that is more easy , i made install from 6 months but by vm....
[19:09] <Pandee> saiarcot895: It seems that it's installed already - "python-gasp is already the newest version."
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> reisio, I respect your help of course, but the user is flailing in not understanding good help to begin with a bad situation for them to make sure they still have a working OS.
[19:09] <Pandee> saiarcot895: But when I try to import it to VIM it says it's not installed
[19:09] <reisio> it's not irresponsible
[19:09] <holstein> wolftune: you can use something like rsync.. there is a nice gui.. grsync
[19:09] <reisio> if you have the time to type up an explicit step-by-step tome of what he should do, by all means do so
[19:09] <holstein> !info grsync | wolftune
[19:09] <reisio> I don't have that kind of time, I am however sitting here
[19:09] <reisio> and answering questions
[19:09] <wolftune> holstein: yeah, I'm using the backintime GUI for that, but I don't have it set on the new machine, have never used it to bring things back, but ok, I'll do that
[19:10] <Pandee> saiarcot895: I'll have to look into vim more. Thanks for your help saiarcot895
[19:10] <holstein> wolftune: i would just move them, and deal with permissions afterwards, if needed
[19:10] <holstein> !chown | wolftune
[19:10] <starkiller> I have  win 7/xubuntu dual boot,, would it hurt to install xubuntu in another partition again for repair purposes ?
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> reisio, I do not do that generally, however you decided to chime in that is great I was just trying to give you some context not passively be aggressive as you are now
[19:10] <mjayk> starkiller: no shouldn't do
[19:10] <devmedo> starkiller : how do you made dual boot!!
[19:10] <holstein> wolftune: backintime probably does a great job and uses rsync as well
[19:11] <devmedo> starkiller : i'm from yesterday trying to do
[19:11] <yeats> !dualboot | devmedo
[19:11] <reisio> this is just text, waste of time trying to psychoanalyze it
[19:11] <QnD> bye all
[19:11] <devmedo> yeats : nothing helps
[19:11] <ngomes> questions related to openntp , where to ask ?
[19:12] <reisio> ngomes: maybe #openbsd
[19:13] <devmedo> i have a " the request is not supported " in wubi & in live one when i go to this step http://assets.ubuntu.com/sites/ubuntu/511/u/img/download/desktop-1204-install-4.jpg and click countine the laptop reboots , and windows starts
[19:13] <ngomes> reisio, why in openBSD ? Oo
[19:13] <k1l_> devmedo: dont use wubi
[19:13] <devmedo> k1l_ : the live one didn't work
[19:14] <ngomes> gotta go , later
[19:14] <k1l_> just dont use wubi. it will break either ubuntu or windows. or both. and its very hard to support
[19:14] <reisio> ngomes: for openntpd?
[19:14] <ngomes> reisio, yes
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> devmedo, You most likely have 4 primary partitions already, if you would take a screen shot of goparted on the live cd we can get to what is needed. 4 primary partitions is the limit
[19:14] <devmedo> k1l_ L here?
[19:15] <reisio> ngomes: it's basically an OpenBSD project
[19:15] <devmedo> screen shot how?
[19:15] <ngomes> reisio, ok , maybe ill ask there gotta go now ,thanks
[19:15] <reisio> adios
[19:15] <k1l_> devmedo: what is the disk /partition cheme you got there?
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> !screenshot | dev
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> Imagebin | devmedo put the iamge here.
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> !Imagebin | devmedo put the iamge here.
[19:16] <devmedo> k1l_ i have 5 disks and with c:/ it is 6 , i made a partition for ubuntu
[19:16] <devmedo> 5 partition
[19:16] <k1l_> devmedo: is it windows dynamic disk?
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> devmedo, Hmm sounds like a uefi setup or now dynamic
[19:16] <devmedo> yah all dynamic
[19:17] <k1l_> devmedo: there we have the problem
[19:17] <devmedo> mm what i do?
[19:17] <k1l_> devmedo: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/179215/why-cant-i-install-ubuntu-or-wubi-on-a-dynamic-disk-the-request-isnt-suppor
[19:17] <k1l_> first answer lists the solutions
[19:18] <devmedo> how to Convert the dynamic disk to basic
[19:18] <Pandee> saiarcot895: in case you were curious i found software sources. It had to be downloaded first.
[19:19] <saiarcot895> Pandee: you had to download Software Sources? that's strange
[19:19] <beni-> hi guys, I'm a software developer, our company sells B2B software. We want to have an online platform, where our customers can log in and get access to the software they purchased, updates (if they are paying the subscription), access to documentation etc. Are there any such applications in the Ubuntu repository?
[19:19] <devmedo> k1l_ ??
[19:20] <delinquentme> anyone in here running an ubuntu system as their primary OS ... on a Mac Book Pro along side OSX and windoez?
[19:20] <saiarcot895> beni-: there's a paid apps section in the Ubuntu Software Center where people can buy apps, and redownload them later if necessary
[19:20] <delinquentme> Specifically I'm curious as I REALLY love the mac hardware ... but im totally uninterested in OSX for development
[19:20] <saiarcot895> beni-: it's not a subscription model, though
[19:20] <devmedo> !help
[19:21] <devmedo> !alert
[19:21] <devmedo> !ask
[19:21] <jdale> !help
[19:21] <jdale> !ask
[19:21] <jdale> hm
[19:21] <jdale> !aptience
[19:21] <jdale> oh well
[19:21] <FloodBot1> jdale: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> jdale, whats up poindexter
[19:22] <jdale> nothing much
[19:22] <saiarcot895> beni-: as to specific applications that do this, I don't know of any
[19:23] <devmedo> how to Dual Boot Ubuntu 13.04 and Windows 7 *NOT WUBI*
[19:24] <holstein> !dualboot | devmedo
[19:24] <beni-> saiarcot895: the Software Center is only for Ubuntu-applications, right? So I could not put up binaries for other systems? And can I limit who can access my binaries? We have sales people who sell the application, and once the customer purchases they should get a login to such a software system.
[19:24] <devmedo> holstein not working!!
[19:24] <devmedo> i have a " the request is not supported " in wubi & in live one when i go to this step http://assets.ubuntu.com/sites/ubuntu/511/u/img/download/desktop-1204-install-4.jpg and click countine the laptop reboots , and windows starts
[19:24] <holstein> devmedo: you cant get to the links?
[19:25] <devmedo> not working , imean when i made what was said not working
[19:25] <k1l_> devmedo: why start over again?
[19:25] <k1l_> i told you what the problem is
[19:25] <yeats> devmedo: there are many many web tutorials on this - a quick web search of "dual boot ubuntu and windows" will reveal them
[19:25] <holstein> devmedo: whats not working? shrinking the partition?
[19:25] <saiarcot895> beni-: no, you cannot put up binaries for other systems there; the apps will be listed publically on the Ubuntu Software Center, so anyone who pays the price and buys it will have access
[19:25] <k1l_> the windows dynamic discs are not compatible with anything other than windows
[19:25] <holstein> k1l_: OH, i see
[19:25] <devmedo> All : What i do to make it basic!!
[19:26] <k1l_> so revert that, get a spare disk to install ubuntu and grub onto or keep ubuntu in a vm
[19:26] <holstein> devmedo: you would nee a basic hardware setup, and you dont have that
[19:26] <holstein> need*
[19:26] <devmedo> what i do?
[19:26] <kostkon> beni-, the info is here:  http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/
[19:26] <wachpwnski> can I run a program as a user as an upstart service?
[19:27] <devmedo> What i DO?
[19:27] <k1l_> devmedo: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/26829-convert-dynamic-disk-basic-disk.html
[19:27] <isiah_s> I am looing to run a program that generates an output file. I am concerned that the output file will be too large. I wish to limit how large the file can be to say 95% of available memory. So, if before the program started I had 100Gb unused, I would like to program to be killed once the output file reaches 95Gb. I am looking at ulimit for this, does anyone have a better suggestion?
[19:27] <devmedo> k1l_ sure??
[19:27] <beni-> saiarcot895, kostkon: thanks, seems like the Ubuntu Software Center is not really what I'm looking for :-(
[19:27] <k1l_> devmedo: but talk with the windows support for that windows related problem. that is not a ubuntu support issue
[19:27] <kostkon> wachpwnski, not yet, but soon http://ifdeflinux.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/upstart-user-sessions-in-ubuntu-raring.html
[19:27] <devmedo> yea , it's in Ubuntu Install!!
[19:27] <kostkon> beni-, :/
[19:27] <k1l_> devmedo: no!
[19:27] <holstein> devmedo: sure, but its the windows setup that is preventing the installation
[19:28] <devmedo> I want ubuntu to work along side windows 7
[19:28] <k1l_> its the windows which ruins the PC for other OS. so its a windows problem.
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> devmedo, backup windows before you do anything.
[19:28] <holstein> devmedo: can you access the information about making your hard drive appropriately configured for the dual boot?
[19:28] <holstein> devmedo: i understand you want to dual boot, but you hardware configuration is not allowing that
[19:29] <devmedo> how to change it without losing any fies
[19:29] <devmedo> files
[19:29] <holstein> devmedo: most setups, you just click that option in the insatller, and it works
[19:29] <k1l_> devmedo: read the links!
[19:29] <holstein> devmedo: no one can guarantee that.. that is why "back up your files" is suggested, in case you lose data
[19:29] <k1l_> devmedo: and make sure you have a backup
[19:29] <devmedo> k1l_ Idon't have..
[19:29] <holstein> devmedo: you dont have the link?
[19:30] <holstein> devmedo: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/26829-convert-dynamic-disk-basic-disk.html here it is again
[19:30] <devmedo> i don't have backup
[19:30] <k1l_> devmedo: we are done here. you got that link from me. noo need for further questions
[19:30] <yeats> devmedo: sounds like you're pretty well out of your depth here - I would suggest doing some research on PC hardware basics, Windows, and Ubuntu before proceeding with this - or find a friend who can help
[19:30] <holstein> devmedo: you'll want a backup, since *all* hard drives will evenutally fail. its good practice to have a backup or a clone, and know how to restore
[19:31] <elijah> Hey guys, how would I debug notify-send stop working from time to time? I use it for irssi and notifications just stop showing up after a while, the ding is still happening though, manually sending something to notify-send <argument> on the cli is the closest I can test/debug, no worky.
[19:31] <saiarcot895> devmedo: or at least have a copy of your important files someplace else
[19:31] <devmedo> wtf 5 who would answer hhhhhhh
[19:33] <holstein> devmedo: you have a special hardware case, friend.. that prevents an easy solution from the ubuntu installer to work without preperation
[19:33] <devmedo> if i make wubi in 12.04 it'll work?
[19:33] <k1l_> devmedo: no
[19:34] <k1l_> no with that harddisk setup
[19:34] <devmedo> :/
[19:34] <holstein> devmedo: your hard drive has restrictions
[19:34] <k1l_> its that windows dynamic harddisc setup which doesnt allow any other OS than windows
[19:34] <devmedo> k1l_ fu** win
[19:35] <k1l_> devmedo: so scroll back up and read the link i gave you how to convert that setup to a basic setup. or stick to win-only
[19:35] <holstein> !language | devmedo
[19:35] <devmedo> i made ** :)
[19:35] <holstein> devmedo: if you dont want windows, wipe the drive, and install linux only
[19:35] <devmedo> is there a way to make wireless work in vm
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> devmedo, the helpers here work within a do no harm context, consequently we have to stop at some point so you don't harm yourself.
[19:36] <kwok> hi
[19:36] <yeats> devmedo: the vm will use the host's network connection
[19:36] <holstein> devmedo: the networking passes through in vm
[19:36] <kwok> are andriod phone easy to hack
[19:36] <holstein> !ot | kwok
[19:36] <kostkon> kwok, wrong channel
[19:36] <k1l_> devmedo: no need for wirdeless in a wm. it uses the network from that base system
[19:37] <devmedo> vm makes Wireless TO Lan , no i need wireless
[19:37] <kwok> but andriod uses the same kernel
[19:37] <kwok> right
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> kwok, There are 3 android channels
[19:37] <kwok> linux
[19:37] <k1l_> devmedo: please get the facts right
[19:37] <holstein> devmedo: as several people stated, the networking passes through in VM. from the host to the guiest
[19:37] <holstein> guest*
[19:37] <k1l_> !alis > kwok
[19:38] <devmedo> holstein : ??
[19:38] <k1l_> devmedo: you dont need wireless in a vm
[19:38] <devmedo> wilee-nilee: yah no harmfull :"devmedo: please get the facts right "
[19:38] <holstein> devmedo: you are asking if you can have wireless in virtualization, and the answer, as stated is, you pass the networking of the host OS to the guest
[19:39] <devmedo> holstein : how ?
[19:39] <holstein> devmedo: i use virtualbox, and i use the GUI menu for "networking" to pass the networking connection of the host to the guest
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> devmedo, That does not harm, I will just put you back in ignore where you belong.
[19:40] <devmedo> wilee-nilee : yah please , i will see a good supporter like "holstein" help me
[19:41] <holstein> devmedo: please stay on topic, or go to #ubuntu-offtopic.. thanks
[19:41] <devmedo> holstein : mm , i'll download it it and see
[19:41] <isiah_s> demedo: if you want to attach a VM to network interface it will depend on what virtualization manager you use. I use libivrt a great deal and what the guides recommend is you create what is called a virtual bridge. To the outside world the VM will have its own ip and mac address making it effectively as real as any stand-alone physical computer.
[19:41] <m_tadeu> I'm having trought setting distcc to work...it's not finding other hosts. does anyone know why?
[19:41] <devmedo> holstein: does i said  no harmfull ? no , wilee-nilee....
[19:42] <holstein> devmedo: you are welcome to review the /topic ..thanks for your patience and consideration of the guideline and other volunteers
[19:43] <isiah_s> devmedo: for example I am on a VM right now running on a computer that is connected over wireless. This chat client is running that way.
[19:43] <daurnimator> How can one publish a  package compiled with different flags?
[19:43] <devmedo> isiah_s : i know but ubuntu gets it with a virtual lan , no i need a real wifi
[19:44] <holstein> devmedo: you need a network connection, and you can get that.. you can get a "real" IP with the bridged connection
[19:45] <devmedo> shortly i want to try my wifi to see it can be hacked or not
[19:45] <holstein> devmedo: try a security channel for that, please
[19:45] <devmedo> nono , the topic here is not the hacking
[19:46] <devmedo> the topic about making guest os ( ubuntu ) recives wifi
[19:46] <holstein> daurnimator: what do you mean by "publish" ?
[19:46] <isiah_s> I dont suppose anyone knows how to set the physical memory ouse by a process that is run by root? I am a little stuck on this one
[19:46] <holstein> devmedo: recieves networking*
[19:46] <holstein> devmedo: you can always run the distro from a live CD or USB stick
[19:47] <devmedo> not understanding , i mean when i connect to ubuntu the shown in ubuntu is lan not wifi
[19:47] <daurnimator> holstein: as in have in a ppa/eventually get into main repos
[19:47] <devmedo> holstein : as we said i have problem with hardware confing
[19:47] <holstein> daurnimator: create a PPA, but i would go upstream to debian to get it in the repos
[19:47] <devmedo> so ican't make ubuntu in my computer along side
[19:48] <holstein> devmedo: you dont need to. you can install to a USB stick, or run the distro live from USB
[19:48] <daurnimator> holstein: what I'm really asking is: theres a program currently in the repos; but I (+ my users) need it with a different set of compile time flags; would it be against the rules to have 2 variants of the one program in the official repos?
[19:49] <devmedo> holstein : i'm taking myself to don't make harmfull words hhhhhh , in live one when i go to this step http://assets.ubuntu.com/sites/ubuntu/511/u/img/download/desktop-1204-install-4.jpg and click countine the laptop reboots , and windows starts
[19:49] <k1l_> devmedo: we had that part, didnt we?#
[19:49] <holstein> daurnimator: not sure.. i would ask in a dev channel.. i think as long as the names are different for the PPA, it should work and you can test
[19:49] <OerHeks> devmedo, sounds like a flaky download, did you check the iso?
[19:49] <devmedo> yah i checked md5
[19:50] <holstein> devmedo: *dont* *install* the os.. just use it live
[19:50] <devmedo> holstein : can i use it live with installing some programes?
[19:50] <k1l_> OerHeks: its his windows dynamic disks that are not comaptible
[19:50] <holstein> devmedo: or, use a different destination to install, such as a USB drive or USB stick
[19:50] <holstein> devmedo: yes
[19:50] <devmedo> i tried DVD and USB
[19:50] <holstein> devmedo: you can install into the live session, or create persistence, or install to USB or a USB hard drive
[19:50] <k1l_> devmedo: not installing!
[19:50] <OerHeks> ah, maybe windows is in Fastboot. or dynamic disk, that could be it, k1l_
[19:51] <k1l_> devmedo: you cant use your harddisks as long as they are dynamic windows things
[19:51] <holstein> but, as was suggested, you could install to a USB stick or another drive
[19:51] <k1l_> devmedo: that was explained 10 times now to you. stop asking that again
[19:51] <anonee> hello everyone
[19:52] <devmedo> k1l_ firstly i didn't ask , i asked how to make wifi in guest os in vm
[19:52] <devmedo> see the history
[19:52] <k1l_> devmedo: no, you did ask again.
[19:52] <devmedo> ( when i was told )
[19:52] <holstein> devmedo: you dont do that.. you dont "make wifi in guest" in vm.. you just share the networking of the host OS
[19:53] <holstein> devmedo: you dont have to install the OS in VM or on the machine.. you can just run it live.. *not* installing *anything*
[19:53] <devmedo> how to make wifi work " not virtual lan "
[19:53] <wachpwnski> kostkon: what is a good way I can start a process as a specified user on boot? cron?
[19:53] <Phoenix1969> aloha....   got a Q:   Ububtu 13.01 just installed.. When I choose to boot ubuntu on the bios, I get this: http://i.imgur.com/b7yVmlP.jpg
[19:53] <devmedo> holstein : it's so slow in live
[19:53] <anonee> devmedo just right-click the USB devices icon in vbox guest window and the wifi will go to the guest
[19:53] <holstein> devmedo: you dont, friend.. that *is* your network. you bridge the connect and get a real IP
[19:53] <OerHeks> devmedo, if your host is using Wifi, your "virtual lan" uses that wifi too.
[19:53] <guntbert> devmedo: virtualization software doesn't present "real hardware" to the guest, I know of non that would present a wireless interface
[19:53] <k1l_> devmedo: either you make the suggested solutions or you keep it live without installing
[19:53] <holstein> devmedo: if you want to do penetration testing, you'll want a native solution.. such as the live CD.. or a specific live penetration testing OS
[19:54] <holstein> devmedo: you can do a lot of testing on your network from inside VM with a real network IP.. from a live CD.. which is a known compromise in speed
[19:55] <devmedo> i'll try live cd , thank you
[19:55] <holstein> devmedo: try a live CD for a penetration OS if thats what you want... kali linux or whatever.. that is not supported here
[19:56] <devmedo> holstein : what do you mean?
[19:56] <anonee> kl1 can you please explain this to me? remember the icon I tried everything to change, it finally changed by itself after 3 or 4 reboots, how can you explain that? is there an icon cash for ubuntu just like in windows? and why does all other icons refresh immediately like for example when I installed faenza icon pack or manually change an icon... any ideas?
[19:56] <holstein> devmedo: just what i said, friend
[19:56] <devmedo> i'll install aircrack-ng
[19:56] <holstein> devmedo: its an if statement, so if the if statement applies to you, check it out
[19:57] <holstein> devmedo: this is not a penetration testing support channel or OS..
[19:57] <wachpwnski> what is a good pastebin cli tool?
[19:57] <devmedo> holstein : can i install software in live cd ?
[19:57] <wachpwnski> i remember wgetpaste or something
[19:57] <tga2> greetings
[19:57] <Pici> wachpwnski: pastebinit
[19:57] <guntbert> !pastebinit | wachpwnski
[19:57] <isiah_s> sorry why exactly are you using a wifi cracking password tool?
[19:57] <wachpwnski> isiah_s: probably research?
[19:58] <tga2> I am having trouble getting an Atheros AR9462 wifi working in 13.04
[19:58] <k1l_> isiah_s: to test "his" wifi. but its not supported in here anyways
[19:58] <tga2> does anyone have any suggestions of things to try?
[19:58] <holstein> devmedo: as i said, yes.. you can install software into the live enviroment
[19:58] <tga2> it starts connecting to the network and then just disconnects
[19:58] <isiah_s> tga2: was it working at any given point?
[19:59] <tga2> isiah_s, first time booting ubuntu on this laptop, a Samsung 5 series
[19:59] <holstein> devmedo: try not to ask the same questions over.. if you need to, refer back to the channel history
[19:59] <tga2> I did try some of the module options I found on forums, but no magical solution
[19:59] <devmedo> holstein : ok...
[19:59] <isiah_s> tga2: ok, if you run it over ethernet does it function?
[19:59] <guntbert> devmedo: if you want to install software and keep it a USB (with persistence) is the solution
[20:00] <tga2> isiah_s, I´m on ethernet now, how does that help with wifi
[20:00] <tga2> isiah_s, ethernet is a rtl, works fine
[20:00] <devmedo> what?
[20:00] <tga2> wifi is an Atheros AR9462, not so happy
[20:00] <VitaoDoidao> people, anybody know any alternative for vyzex and battery 3 ? i need to make use of my akai mpd26 on my linux. may anobody help me, please?
[20:00] <devmedo> i'll try live cd
[20:00] <isiah_s> tga2: I want to make sure your conenction itself is fine. I am trying to isolate the problem down
[20:00] <tga2> oh, ok
[20:01] <anonee> lol
[20:01] <holstein> devmedo: are you having trouble understanding the term "persistence" ? it allows changes made to your live environment "persist"
[20:01] <tga2> connection is fine, the card works, sees the networks, but when I try to connect to wpa2 it does things for a while then stops
[20:01] <isiah_s> tga2: can you ping your local host? in the command like type ping 127.0.0.1
[20:01] <tga2> yeah, like I said, I`m on ethernet now
[20:01] <holstein> devmedo: if you install into the live CD or usb, and reboot, those chages are gone.. persistence would make thos changes persist
[20:01] <netlar> When you do the ! with a word ubottu comes up?
[20:01] <daniele> logout
[20:01] <k1l_> !bot > netlar
[20:01] <devmedo> holstein: i don't want it persistence
[20:01] <isiah_s> tga2: create a second ifcfg for wifi
[20:02] <guntbert> devmedo: do as you please - but when using a live CD (as opposed to a live USB with persistence) you will have to install/configure the software every time you boot
[20:02] <devmedo> ok
[20:02] <holstein> devmedo: then, as it is also an if statement, if you dont want it, dont use it
[20:02] <anonee> k1l_ sorry if i bothered you
[20:02] <devmedo> ok thank you all , i'll try
[20:02] <devmedo> bye
[20:02] <tga2> isiah_s, it´s all default network manager now
[20:03] <isiah_s> tga2: I always end up removing network manager. Let me see if I can find a step-by-step guide on setting up a second ifcfg for wifi
[20:04] <suigeneris> !grub
[20:04] <k1l_> Phoenix1969: there is something wrong with your wubi install
[20:04] <guntbert> !askthebot > suigeneris
[20:05] <k1l_> Phoenix1969: but wubi is hard to support. i dont know if anyone knows an answer to this but in general we recommend to make a native intsall
[20:05] <tga2> hmm, how do I get some logs out of networkmanager?
[20:05] <tga2> it just tries the network for a while then gives up, it would be useful to know what it's doing
[20:05] <Phoenix1969> agreed...trying a desktop extraction install...
[20:06] <anonee> k1l_ but i'm curious, why did it take as much reboots.. it doesn't matter anyway if the answer is difficult for me, thank you all anyway.
[20:06] <suigeneris> guntbert: I thought we were allowed to do that
[20:06] <ikonia> Phoenix1969: look if that file is actually there, I suspect it's not
[20:06] <ikonia> looking at the error code
[20:07] <g3org3s> hey all, how do i remove the camera drivers/disable it for good on ubuntu? it autoinstalled when i was setting up ubuntu
[20:07] <reisio> g3org3s: could blacklist the module/s
[20:07] <reisio> g3org3s: lsmod, probably has 'uvc' in its name
[20:07] <Phoenix1969> it was not there, correct....doing another install
[20:07] <MichaelP> when Mir is shiped with the next release. How is it going to be with ati proprietary drivers ?
[20:07] <blazemore> Hi g3org3s - Can you please paste the result of running the command "lsmod" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and then give me the URL? Thanks
[20:08] <reisio> MichaelP: let me find my crystal ball
[20:08] <guntbert> suigeneris: we usually only invoke ubottu to specific onformation to a person, if we want to investigate and try things we do it in a private message with her
[20:08] <blazemore> MichaelP: Are AMD writing drivers for mir?
[20:08] <g3org3s> reisio it has uvcvideo on 3 lines. how can i blacklist it ?
[20:09] <k1l_> MichaelP: lets fokus on existing issues in here. #ubuntu-mir or #ubuntu+1 for that topic would be better :)
[20:09] <reisio> g3org3s: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[20:09] <reisio> g3org3s: blacklist modulenamehere
[20:09] <MichaelP> blazemore: don't know thats why i was wondering if proprietary drivers was going to work with it.
[20:09] <OerHeks> MichaelP, next release is shipped with xMir, the transit version to Mir
[20:10] <joshu> ikonia hi again
[20:10] <mjayk> OerHeks: is that for sure ?
[20:10] <zorael> What's the CLI tool with which you add/remove loopback dev nodes?
[20:10] <ikonia> joshu: hello
[20:10] <suigeneris> why is apt-get ignoring the ppa?
[20:10] <OerHeks> mjayk, see http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/06/27/mir-plans-in-13-10/
[20:10] <reisio> zorael: mount?
[20:11] <k1l_> suigeneris: did you set it up proberly?
[20:11] <guntbert> suigeneris: did you   sudo apt-get update   afterwards?
[20:11] <zorael> reisio: No, I mean adding dev nodes if there aren't enough /dev/loop*, or assigning a block file to such a node
[20:11] <tga2> so it looks like my card authenticates with the router, then goes 'authenticating by local choice' right away
[20:11]  * tga2 digs some more
[20:12] <reisio> zorael: sounds like udev magick
[20:12] <suigeneris> guntbert: update is ignoring it
[20:12] <suigeneris> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[20:12] <suigeneris> I'm doing this
[20:12] <g3org3s> reisio i have: 1)videobuf2-core  used by uvcvideo,videobuf2_core, 2)videobuf2_vmalloc used by uvcvideo, 3) videodev used by uvcvideo,videobuf2_core ... which one to blacklist ?
[20:12] <reisio> g3org3s: uvcvideo alone would probably manage it
[20:12] <zorael> reisio: Found it; losetup
[20:13] <reisio> zorael: ah, gj
[20:13] <g3org3s> reisio but i have no module called uvcvideo :s
[20:13] <guntbert> suigeneris: !pastebin the output of   sudo apt-get update   please
[20:13] <nightdrever> Hi, I have windows 7 and ubuntu duel boot, http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=14555    id like to reinstall windows without affecting ubuntu (and if possible move ubuntu to start of drive) is it possible if so how?
[20:14] <urmysony> Hi Guys
[20:14] <urmysony> m running ubuntu 13.10
[20:14] <ikonia> urmysony: #ubuntu+1 channel please
[20:14] <reisio> hi
[20:14] <joshu> ikonia the lubuntu option you mentioned earlier today. wasn't clear on how and if possible I would be able to 1) update the OS remotely as if it was a "firmware image" and 2) how I would be able to update/ push or pull configuration changes
[20:14] <reisio> g3org3s: try it
[20:14] <reisio> nightdrever: yes
[20:14] <urmysony> @inkonia Thanks
[20:14] <ikonia> nightdrever: you can't move ubuntu to the start - windows wants to be the first partition for it's 200mb private partition, and it will need the boot sector re-installing
[20:15] <reisio> nightdrever: playing with partitions is not 100% safe, though, so you should make a backup first
[20:15] <k1l_> suigeneris: can you show the whole output from the terminal in a pastebin?
[20:15] <suigeneris> guntbert: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5891935/
[20:15] <suigeneris> k1l_ too
[20:15] <nightdrever> ok how do i delete windows and reinstall then without effecting ubuntu?
[20:15] <g3org3s> reisio blacklist command not found
[20:15] <k1l_> suigeneris: with the commands you added the ppa
[20:15] <ikonia> joshu: ok, so as an "image" it's not going to happen unless you netboot it, and configuration managing is up to you, sync configuration files, use a configuration tool like puppet etc, many options
[20:15] <reisio> g3org3s: it's a line you put into the file I mentioned
[20:15] <reisio> g3org3s: then reboot
[20:16] <celroc> ikonia: I'm not sure, but I don't think Windows needs the first partition, actually.  On my machine, it's the second or third partition
[20:16] <suigeneris> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update
[20:16] <k1l_> suigeneris: "Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release"
[20:16] <g3org3s> reisio ah sry will do that thanks ^^
[20:16] <k1l_> there it is
[20:16] <ikonia> celroc: it makes a temporary small 200mb partition, that it likes to be the first partition on the primary disk
[20:16] <suigeneris> k1l_: but boot-repair is being ignored
[20:17] <guntbert> k1l_: he was talking about the next one, which is indeed "Ign"
[20:17] <k1l_> suigeneris: it doesnt name the PPA by its own
[20:17] <suigeneris> Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net/yannubuntu/boot-repair/ubuntu/ lucid/main Translation-en_US
[20:17] <suigeneris> k1l_:
[20:17] <celroc> ikonia: Huh.  I've had Windows installed on my second partition for quite a while now without any problems that I remember
[20:17] <ikonia> celroc: the actual install can be anywhere
[20:18] <joshu> ikonia ok so updating the OS would either have to be via say a USB stick which replaces the current OS install, or via the OS's own updating mechanism
[20:18] <OerHeks> suigeneris, no bootrepair in that PPA >>> https://launchpad.net/~yannubuntu/+archive/boot-repair  and lucid desktop is EOL
[20:18] <k1l_> suigeneris: what does "sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair" give you?
[20:18] <ikonia> joshu: basically using the OS update tool, from a repository of some sort, yes
[20:18] <k1l_> OerHeks: ah well, didnt think of that easy one
[20:19] <celroc> ikonia: Right, but I think I've had a Linux partition already set up as my first partition when I installed Windows, and it didn't seem to have a problem
[20:19] <suigeneris> k1l_: Couldn't find package boot-repair
[20:19] <ikonia> celroc: there are ways around it, but it does not like the 200mb partition not being the first partition
[20:19] <suigeneris> OerHeks: I'm tryying to re-install grub
[20:20] <k1l_> suigeneris: see OerHeks lucid is out of support for the desktop and the PPA doesnt have any package for lucis
[20:20] <celroc> ikonia: Hmm, Ok.  I'm sorry, I'll stop bothering you about it
[20:20] <ikonia> celroc: no need for sorry
[20:20] <suigeneris> oh that's why
[20:20] <ikonia> celroc: valid comments
[20:20] <celroc> ikonia: ;-)  Thanks
[20:21] <k1l_> suigeneris: if that is a dektop you really should considering going to a supported release
[20:21] <tga2> [ 1782.584391] wlan0: deauthenticating from <router> by local choice (reason=3)
[20:21] <celroc> ikonia: If it's any help, I think I had to (re?)install Windows 7 a while back.  All I really did was format the previous NTFS (WinXP) partition and tell it to install.  It worked without a hitch as far as I can tell
[20:22] <tga2> it looks like my card connects to the router and actually works for a bit, then just deauthenticates
[20:22] <joshu> ikonia the thin client project as I explained earlier..you seem very knowledgable about Ubuntu. Is it something you're capable of doing?
[20:22] <ikonia> celroc: I don't know how that will make / have an impact
[20:22] <tga2> any hints on how to fix this?
[20:23] <ikonia> joshu: errr with effort yes, but I'd look at other options too such as netbooting the OS with local persistance for example, which really would be a thin client, lots of options with pros/cons
[20:24] <celroc> ikonia: I don't remember any real issue with the partitions (I think I already had my Linux partitions set up, unless I'm mistaken).  It didn't seem to throw any errors/problems that I can remember
[20:24] <joshu> ikonia is this something we could discuss more in private with compensation of course?
[20:24] <ikonia> joshu: I think you've not %100 thought out your approach and missed a few things which would need to be addressed then it will narrow down your options a bit more, and move forward from there
[20:24] <suigeneris> k1l_: I'm on 13.04 and trying to re-install grub because I lost it
[20:24] <ikonia> joshu: I'll discuss it a bit more in private sure, but I'm not looking for money
[20:25] <ikonia> celroc: where did it put the 200mb partition
[20:25] <k1l_> suigeneris: your system says its lucid
[20:25] <k1l_> or is it an old stick/cd you are using?
[20:26] <celroc> ikonia: Um.... I really don't remember if it even prompted me about it.  Although, now I'm wondering if my memory is wrong and if I did have to give my first partition the temporary axe....
[20:26] <suigeneris> k1l_: I'm on livecd
[20:26] <ikonia> celroc: it has to have one......
[20:26] <joshu> ikonia what is more convenient for you, PM, Skype or something else?
[20:26] <celroc> ikonia: I must be mistaken, then.  Or my memory is wrong
[20:27] <thufir> I installed xubuntu-desktop   --- how do I get to a GUI desktop now?  I have a text console only.
[20:27] <ikonia> joshu: do you want to talk "now" ?
[20:27] <reisio> thufir: reboot?
[20:27] <ikonia> celroc: who knows
[20:27] <joshu> if possible
[20:27] <thufir> reisio: I did
[20:27] <reisio> thufir: service lightdm start ?
[20:27] <guntbert> suigeneris: in that case the best approach would be to download a Boot repair ISO and boot from that
[20:27] <k1l_> suigeneris: no bootrepais for lucid. but you can use the "oldfashioned" methods: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[20:27] <thufir> reisio: ahhh, forgot about lightdm.
[20:27] <ikonia> joshu: pm me and we can have a short chat, then work out if any more is needed
[20:29] <cipherboy> Hey, so I think this should be obvious to me, but it isn't... Say I set a custom PATH in a bashrc script. I can then run commands from that new path, say they are located in ~/bin. which <command only in ~/bin> returns nothing. How do I change that?
[20:29] <thufir> xubuntu-desktop is xfce?
[20:29] <reisio> thufir: yes
[20:29] <thufir> thnaks
[20:30] <reisio> cipherboy: change what?
[20:30] <thufir> I have an older monitor and need to do something weird, I think, with creating a file /etc/X/...(?) to set the resolution.
[20:30] <thufir> before I can use xfce or other GUI desktop interface
[20:31] <reisio> thufir: try without first
[20:32] <cipherboy> reisio: change it such that the which command searches my full custom path, not just the system global ones.
[20:32] <tga2> tried power management too, no dice
[20:33] <reisio> cipherboy: are you asking how to set a custom PATH?
[20:33] <thufir> reisio: ok, thanks.  my old computer broke somehow, so it's a new computer with the same monitor.
[20:33] <reisio> seemed like you already had that bit figured...
[20:33] <suigeneris> is 10.10 EOL yet?
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> suigeneris, Yes
[20:34] <cipherboy> reisio: No, no, I have the custom path, lol, and programs run. The problem is the which command doesn't actually search my custom path.
[20:34] <BluesKaj> !10.10
[20:34] <reisio> cipherboy: which command?
[20:34] <cipherboy> reisio: Here:
[20:35] <guntbert> reisio: `which` :-)
[20:35] <reisio> guntbert: `type` :p
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> !eol | suigeneris Read if you plan to upgrade
[20:35] <cipherboy> revagomes: http://pastebin.com/zTepq2rv
[20:36] <cipherboy> reisio, not revagomes, sorry.
[20:36] <k1l_> suigeneris: 12.04 is the last one you can get
[20:36] <celroc> cipherboy: I haven't really used the Which command much, but it looks like you might want to set the PATH variable in your shell as well
[20:37] <eedfwchris> Hey guys… why would this UFW rule not allow incoming ssh connections on 22 (eth1 is public)? http://pastie.org/private/mm7cfnu0dwoxtge2gzynzg
[20:37] <cipherboy> celroc: meaning? env lists the modified PATH.
[20:38] <celroc> cipherboy: Oh.  Well, I see you've already done that.
[20:38] <cipherboy> However, the `which` command, isn't detecting it, causing scripts to break occasionally.
[20:38] <trism> cipherboy: do you actually have ~/local/bin in the path, or the full path?
[20:39] <cipherboy> No, full /home/cipherboy/local/bin
[20:39] <trism> cipherboy: I notice if it is using the ~ character bash can find it but which can't
[20:39] <trism> cipherboy: oh don't know then, it is working fine here
[20:41] <cipherboy> trism: Odd. echo $PATH listed it, restarted lightdm and it worked.
[20:42] <celroc> cipherboy: Hmm.... maybe it's one of those things where the user needs to log out of that session for the change to take effect?
[20:42] <cipherboy> celroc: Usually doesn't work like that... First time I have put things in home directory, but usually when I add other paths it works.  Must have been a glitch.
[20:47] <Jordan_U> cipherboy: Is the path you were trying to add /home/cipherboy/local/bin or /home/cipherboy/bin?
[20:48] <cipherboy> Jordan_U: local one.
[20:50] <Jordan_U> cipherboy: When you first joined your example was ~/bin/, and Ubuntu's .profile is configured to add ~/bin/ to $PATH at login (and only at login) if it exists, so if you created ~/bin/ then logged out and back in again it would make sense for binaries in ~/bin/ to now be found.
[20:51] <cipherboy> Jordan_U: Ah, sorry, whoops.
[20:51] <cipherboy> ~/bin was added earlier and works, but ~/local/bin wasn't working for whatever reason.
[20:51] <thufir> I had to boot into safemode (root) after installing lightdm.  can I remove lightdm from safemode?
[20:52] <Jordan_U> thufir: Yes, just "apt-get remove lightdm". lightdm is installed by default though, why were you needing to install it in the first place?
[20:53] <thufir> Jordan_U: to get xubuntu-desktop to work.  after I get a graphical login screen I put in my password but get kicked out the graphical login again.  From past experience with this monitor, I need to make some setting in /etc/X/... to set the resolution (low) I think.  (it's a new computer)
[20:57] <thufir> I can't remove lightdm from safemode because the filesystem isn't read/write.  how can I get a root console with read/write to the filesystem?
[20:57] <thufir> I'm in safemode
[20:58] <explodes> thufir: Boot Live CD and go into Rescue Mode
[20:58] <explodes> Fill out the basics and then hit escape
[20:58] <explodes> Choose "find hard disks" and "find disk drives"
[20:58] <explodes> then choose "Open shell"
[20:58] <thufir> explodes: I don't have a live cd, I have a thumb drive with 13.04 server version.
[20:58] <explodes> that works
[20:58] <explodes> I literally did this 2 hours ago
[20:58] <explodes> w/ 13.04 server
[20:59] <explodes> boot onto that
[20:59] <explodes> and follow what I said. You'll get a shell w/ root
[20:59] <thufir> but I want to boot into the system I installed to remove lightdm.
[20:59] <explodes> you can from the shell
[21:00] <thufir> I looked at the grub entries in rescuemode but wasn't sure how to get to text mode
[21:00] <explodes> Go into rescue mode
[21:00] <explodes> and follow what I said
[21:00] <explodes> I literally did this 2 hours ago
[21:00] <thufir> let me ask in a different way.  in rescue mode there's an option to edit grub.  how can I edit grub from rescue mode so that it boots to console?
[21:02] <explodes> thufir: Oh; No idea
[21:02] <thufir> explodes: that won't let me install/remove software, because it will be the usb stick which is effected, not the hard drive.
[21:04] <Jordan_U> thufir: Just "mount -o remount,rw /" to get the root filesystem writeable.
[21:05] <thufir> Jordan_U: :)   thanks
[21:06] <Jordan_U> thufir: You're welcome.
[21:07] <fernando> hello
[21:07] <Guest8067> holaaa
[21:09] <FfoO> Good evening.
[21:09] <shambat> trying to setup a gentoo guest os on my Ubuntu Server 12.04 by issuing this command: http://dpaste.com/1310930/ I get the following result: http://dpaste.com/1310936/ How do I connect to the guest os? I do not have X on my server.
[21:12] <Zouavman> sups I need helps
[21:12] <Dr_willis> !details
[21:12] <Zouavman> Can I prease has helps for a (probably real easy) issue?
[21:12] <Zouavman> Okay cool
[21:13] <Zouavman> I'm on Xubuntu, trying to install Minecraft on a brand new macheen
[21:13] <Zouavman> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/minecraft-installer-for-ubuntu
[21:13] <Zouavman> But I get stuck at the following site simply because I have no idea how to install the damn installer in the first place :/
[21:13] <kmyst> anybody know about routing different networks?
[21:13] <Zouavman> https://launchpad.net/~minecraft-installer-peeps/+archive/minecraft-installer
[21:13] <Dr_willis> install the installer? Download make it executable  and run it?
[21:14] <Zouavman> Dr_willis, That's the link I'm looking for on launchpad
[21:14] <Dr_willis> oh its a pps.
[21:14] <Dr_willis> ppa
[21:14] <Zouavman> I just don't get it, you'd think the download link would be obvious, yeah?
[21:14] <Dr_willis> You can update your system with unsupported packages from this untrusted PPA by adding ppa:minecraft-installer-peeps/minecraft-installer to your system's Software Sources. (Read about installing)
[21:14] <Zouavman> Dr_willis, would you say that's a pretty dumb idea since the thing is not trusted yeah?
[21:14] <Dr_willis>  You add the 'ppa' to your systems list of sources. then use the package manager tools to install what you want from the ppa
[21:15] <Dr_willis> Zouavman,   ppa's are used all the time. they are by definition not officially supported here.
[21:15] <Dr_willis> !ppa
[21:15] <Zouavman> Hmmm so what command should I type in the command emulator thing?
[21:15] <Dr_willis> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name
[21:15] <emx> how do i make a service to be started during boot?
[21:16] <Dr_willis> using the name the site says
[21:16] <Zouavman> Thanks, I'll try this! :)
[21:16] <Dr_willis> ppa:minecraft-installer-peeps/minecraft-installer
[21:16] <Dr_willis> its documented at that url :) in the guide/tooltip thing
[21:16] <Dr_willis> then sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade , then sudo apt-get install minecraft-installer
[21:17] <Dr_willis> then you run minecraft-installer
[21:18] <Zouavman> K I just did the first one sudo add-apt-repository ppa:...., what next?
[21:18] <Zouavman> Dr_willis, thanks btw for all yer help dawg
[21:18] <Dr_willis> look at the commands i gave above...
[21:18] <Dr_willis> update, upgrade, install, run the thang
[21:19] <Zouavman> oh cool, just "sudo apt-get update" works?
[21:19] <Zouavman> Thanks
[21:19] <Zouavman> I shall try
[21:26] <Zouavman> Dr_willis: It works! Thanks a ton for your help
[21:26] <Zouavman> I don't know if you're a real doctor, but damn it if you done healed my problem
[21:26] <Zouavman> Muchas
[21:26] <Zouavman> And much love
[21:26] <Zouavman> Peace :)
[21:28] <RxDx> I upgraded my GnomeShell, using ppa, on my Ubuntu 13.04 and now my lock screen just freezes (I can unlock it by typing password, but it does not appear on screen)
[21:32] <axexandru>  [00:32] [axexandru(+i)] [3:freenode/#ubuntu(+CLcfjnt #ubuntu-unregged 5:10)] [Act: 1]
[21:32] <axexandru>  [00:32] [axexandru(+i)] [3:freenode/#ubuntu(+CLcfjnt #ubuntu-unregged 5:10)] [Act: 1]
[21:34] <k1l_> RxDx: well, best way is to talk to the PPA maintainers
[21:38] <assadsdfsd> can anyone give me an idea of what this error means? EXT4-fs (sda1): ext4_orphan_cleanup: deleting unreferenced inode
[21:38] <assadsdfsd> is refering to the hard drive or ram?
[21:39] <saintcajetan> Alright pretty much I want to be able to have access to the software I had paid for in the ubuntu store, what is the website where I can retrieve my password if I lost the account?
[21:39] <Dr_willis> sounds like some sort of filesystem curruption on sda1
[21:39] <saintcajetan> I dont think its the same as the ubuntu forum, not sure because there was several different things.
[21:39] <Dr_willis> assadsdfsd,  id be fscking that filesystem to see if any errors get corrected
[21:39] <saintcajetan> There was Ubuntu one and who knows what else I signed up for >.<
[21:39] <assadsdfsd> Dr_willis: well its a fresh install of the OS, disk ulity shows the drive to be perfect health, maybe the (ssd) is bad?
[21:40] <Dr_willis> assadsdfsd,  that dosent mean the filesystem does not have some curruption.
[21:40] <Dr_willis> Disk can be good.. fs has issues.
[21:40] <Dr_willis> fsck it and see.
[21:40] <assadsdfsd> Dr_willis: fsck? how to I do that? command?
[21:40] <wilee-nilee> saintcajetan, Might ask at #ubuntuone
[21:40] <Dr_willis> !fsck
[21:41] <assadsdfsd> Just run "fsck" naked in the terminal?
[21:41] <Dr_willis> you do NOT fsck a filesystem thats in use/mounted read/write - i always use a live-cd for fscking my system.
[21:41] <assadsdfsd> Okay, i'll run a live usb, can you give me the full command to use?
[21:51] <g3org3s> anyone knows how can i exit nano on french keyboard ?
[21:52] <Dr_willis> ctrl-x or ctrl-o  would be my guess
[21:52] <euxneks> what is the default window decorator for unity?
[21:52] <Dr_willis> should show the keycoded at the bottom
[21:52] <Dr_willis> euxneks,  that would be the gtk-decorator i belve.  since theres only like 2 decorators for compiz to use.
[21:52] <g3org3s> Dr_willis lol thanks its writeen ^X .... confusing
[21:53] <Dr_willis> or do you mean what THEME is it using
[21:53] <euxneks> Dr_willis, thanks
[21:53] <Dr_willis> g3kk3r,  ^ = control key
[21:53] <euxneks> no I want to make a theme
[21:53] <Dr_willis> one of the many reasons i feel nano should be replaced
[21:54] <Dr_willis> euxneks,  so i dont get what you are asking then.
[21:54] <euxneks> Dr_willis, you answered my question :) I want to make a theme for window decorations and I needed to know what the default window decorator was for unity and ubuntu
[21:55] <Dr_willis> its for COMPIZ
[21:55] <euxneks> oh, really?
[21:55] <euxneks> oh that's awesome
[21:55] <Dr_willis> compiz uses the gtk-decorator  , theres also emerald and the qt-decorator i recall.
[21:55] <Dr_willis> but the gtk-decorator uses gtk themes
[22:00] <med> hello
[22:00] <JohnathonDoe> Hey
[22:00] <zipper> Running Kubuntu and wondering what this means: Bell in session 'Shell'
[22:01] <zipper> I searched around and discovered that it's a KDE specific notification
[22:02] <saintcajetan> wilee-nilee, thanks lets see if they can help >.<
[22:02] <JohnathonDoe> It's most likely a Konsole notification.
[22:08] <Raydiation> hi, is there a way to circumvent that enter when using sudo add-apt-repository
[22:09] <Raydiation> i need it for a script
[22:09] <Pricey> Raydiation: include '-y'
[22:09] <Raydiation> thanks
[22:09] <Pricey> Raydiation: man add-apt-repository
[22:09] <Raydiation> Pricey: not on ubuntu
[22:09] <Raydiation> its for travis-ci
[22:10] <wilee-nilee> ad134, You can't use the hybrid hibernate in windows and access it from ubuntu period.
[22:10] <Pricey> Raydiation: no man?
[22:10] <dinnah> i hav ma desk top scren conected 2 ma laptop....but i js switch frm 1 scren 2 another.hlp plis.
[22:13] <runnyspot> i'm trying to find directories called tmpxxx in the /tmp directory. `find /tmp/ -maxdepth 1 -type d -name tmp\*` also returns /tmp in addition to the directories i'm looking for
[22:13] <runnyspot> how can i prevent it from returning itself?
[22:13] <runnyspot> find /tmp/* -maxdepth 0 -type d -name tmp\*
[22:13] <runnyspot> i guess is the best soln
[22:14] <Jordan_U> runnyspot: find /tmp/ -maxdepth 1 -type d -name 'tmp???'
[22:15] <Jordan_U> runnyspot: Depending on what your goal is you could also use simply "echo /tmp/tmp*/" .
[22:16] <Jordan_U> runnyspot: What is your end goal?
[22:16] <runnyspot> cron to delete folders in tmp directory that are left behind
[22:17] <euxneks> ok, so I need to convert an emerald theme into something I can use in ubuntu 13.04
[22:17] <euxneks> well, "need" I suppose is subjective
[22:18] <euxneks> I would *like to* convert a theme for use in ubuntu+unity 13.04
[22:18] <runnyspot> i'm actullay dealing with another issue someone might be able to help with, when i run nagios@nagios:~$ crontab -e, i get crontabs/nagios/: fdopen: Permission denied
[22:21] <euxneks> hrm.. maybe someone can tell me where ambiance is stored?
[22:21] <euxneks> the window theme?
[22:22] <wachpwnski> i think it's in shared or something
[22:22] <Jordan_U> runnyspot: "rmdir /tmp/tmp*/" (which will only remove empty directories).
[22:25] <wachpwnski> What is the best practice to run something at startup as a user?
[22:25] <wachpwnski> cron job?
[22:27] <bossman759> Can't you set it as a start up program or are you trying to do something different? wachpwnski
[22:27] <wachpwnski> bossman759: i am on ubuntu server
[22:27] <bossman759> oh ok
[22:27] <bossman759> cron job sounds like a good idea
[22:27] <wachpwnski> when the server starts up I want it to start up a program with dtach
[22:28] <Pricey> wachpwnski: a '@reboot' crontab line seems good for that
[22:28] <bossman759> yeah I'm pretty sure a cron job could do that
[22:29] <wachpwnski> if I want it to run as that user
[22:29] <Raydiation> Pricey: im on archlinux
[22:29] <Raydiation> no manpages for debian stuff
[22:29] <Raydiation> but thanks :)
[22:29] <bossman759> if you're logged in on that user wouldn't run as that user?
[22:30] <Pricey> Raydiation: You're in #ubuntu :(
[22:30] <Raydiation> Pricey: yeah because travis-ci uses ubuntu vms to run CI tests
[22:30] <mathisen> wachpwnski, you could take a look at /etc/rc.d/rc.local
[22:32] <napc> ok, so i'm almost embarrassed to admit this.  I have a relatively new laptop.  the webcam works fine, but i wanted to know what kind it was.  i tried listing with: lshw,lsusb,lspci (all grepping "cam") but nothing listed.  Had to install hwinfo to find out.  Is there some command other than hwinfo to extract webcam info?
[22:33] <Raydiation> napc: there are some graphical tools that give you a lot of info
[22:33] <Raydiation> napc: http://askubuntu.com/questions/31618/how-can-i-find-my-hardware-details
[22:33] <Raydiation> also some command i cant remember, something with bios in it i think
[22:34] <Raydiation> ah right, i was wrong: dmidecode
[22:35] <napc> forgot... tried that one too...
[22:35] <napc> thx... i just thought there was something installed by default.
[22:39] <varunendra> napc, usb-devices
[22:42] <napc> varunendra: yes.  that works. thx to both of you.
[22:42] <varunendra> :)
[22:42] <napc> always another command to learn/know
[22:44] <varunendra> napc, usb-devices is not universal though. I think it only works on some distros like Ubuntu. Same goes for lshw.
[22:45] <cynar_> I dont suppose anyone online either knows about pulse audio, or can point me at a good tutorial?
[22:46] <jhutchins> I can never remember the command to open a file in a gui app from the console.
[22:46] <smw_> cynar_, tutorial to do what?
[22:46] <smw_> cynar_, (although I know so little I doubt I can help you)
[22:47] <varunendra> jhutchins, like "gksu gedit <file>"?
[22:47] <varunendra> or just "gedit <file>"
[22:48] <cynar_> I'm trying to get my head around it for a project
[22:49] <cynar_> it looks able to do the job, but is currently WAY beyond my abilities
[22:49] <cynar_> http://rlab.org.uk/wiki/Jukebox
[22:51]  * cynar_ thinks he hears smw_ flee with a slight wimper
[22:51]  * smw_ looks around
[22:51] <smw_> cynar_, you didn't see my name so I did see you said anything :-P
[22:52] <cynar_> sorry, out of irc habit
[22:52] <quuxman> Is there an xmodmap keysym for ctrl+x?
[22:52] <smw_> cynar_, yep, wait beyond my abilities as well
[22:53] <MeatloafSoaring> I've just set up Ubuntu on my old computer that's got an ATI X800 video card.  I'm seeing some goofy glitches...what drivers should I be using?
[22:53] <smw_> cynar_, try #pulseaudio?
[22:53] <cynar_> thanks for at least looking, it's more than I've gotten from the pulseaudio channel
[22:53] <smw_> cynar_, heh
[22:53] <cynar_> smw_ first place i looked
[22:54] <cynar_>  /asked
[22:54] <holstein> MeatloafSoaring: the better question might be, what hardware should you be using.. but i would just try the drivers available, and use what works best.. the hardware support is different from case to case
[22:56] <MeatloafSoaring> holstein: Well...I'd just like to not see these visual glitches.  I'm not sure if they're being caused by the driver I'm currently using.  I believe I'm using the open source driver
[22:56] <quuxman> What I want is capslock+j/k/l/i be arrow keys, as well as a few other bindings, but have the capslock+<any-other-key> behave as ctl+<other-key>
[22:57] <quuxman> I've got arrow keys with capslock by mapping capslock to mod5, but using that method I need a keysym for ctrl+x
[22:57] <holstein> MeatloafSoaring: just confirm that, and try the other one.. its not a normal feature of the OS, if thats is the concern
[22:57] <quuxman> and all the other ctrl combos I want to save
[23:02] <backjlack> Does anyone happen to know how to get past the "Disk full" error when preparing a custom netboot mini.iso image?
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> backjlack, what disc is full?
[23:03] <backjlack> wilee-nilee: netboot.img
[23:03] <hazardous> hi
[23:03] <hazardous> just wondering is it possible to define the random port range
[23:03] <whoever> quuxman: try http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/6.2/chapter07/console.html
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> backjlack, Not sure I understand.
[23:03] <hazardous> my webserver deals with probably upwards of 50k sockets at a time and sometimes when i restart a daemon it can't bind
[23:03] <quuxman> whoever: I'm using X of course though...
[23:03] <hazardous> because it's in established or wait
[23:04] <quuxman> whoever: loadkeys has no effect in X
[23:04] <Phoenix1969> ok, 2 systems now, same result, aftert installing ubuntu, and rebooting to the os choosing screen, i get the error message \ubuntu\winboot\wubildt.mbr isn't there, but it is... what to try?
[23:05] <quuxman> the general problem is I want capslock to behave as ctrl in most cases, but with 8 key combos, I want it to produce specific keysyms
[23:05] <k1l_> Phoenix1969: screw wubi
[23:05] <whoever> quuxman: settings > keyboard > shortcut
[23:05] <Phoenix1969> k1l, then how to fixx?
[23:06] <holstein> Phoenix1969: you could try a different version with wubi.. 12.04 if you are using 13.04. or just dont use wubi
[23:06] <k1l_> Phoenix1969: as i told before. wubi is very difficult to fix. most supporters in here recommend to make a real install on own partitions
[23:06] <whoever> quuxman: if that doesn't work then you may need to use a key combo to load a custom keymap via script with a toggle state
[23:06] <Phoenix1969> hmm, ok, then try the 12.xx install?
[23:07] <holstein> Phoenix1969: why not do an actual install?
[23:07] <Phoenix1969> how?
[23:07] <holstein> !install
[23:07] <quuxman> whoever: does that actually work? wow, how do you do that
[23:07] <holstein> !dualboot
[23:07] <quuxman> whoever: (making a mod load a different keymap)
[23:07] <Phoenix1969> i tried usb, cd, and from desktop, all same result
[23:08] <whoever> quuxman: what is the end result that you are hoping for ? that ctr + j/k/l work like they do in vim
[23:08] <holstein> Phoenix1969: tried what? dualbooting?
[23:08] <holstein> Phoenix1969: an *actual* install.. not a wubi
[23:08] <quuxman> whoever: yeah, in all apps (except I'm using dvorak so its htnc)
[23:08] <we6jbo> Hi
[23:08] <we6jbo> I have a question
[23:08] <mjayk> I install a program from a .run file and I cannot find it in the apps lens any help appriciated
[23:09] <mjayk> ubuntu 13.04 64 bit
[23:09] <whoever> quuxman: create script use keyboard shortcut to map to that scrip and basted on state of a variable will depend what happens
[23:09] <holstein> mjayk: you would ask the maintainer of the application, or make a custom lanucher
[23:09] <quuxman> whoever: I just want my home keys to be arrow keys with capslock, but capslock to be ctrl for common shortcuts like ctrl+x/v/c/l ...
[23:09] <mjayk> holstein: sorry i dont understand what a maintainer is :) im not that up to date
[23:09] <mjayk> with pc's :)
[23:09] <quuxman> whoever: doesn't sound practical to make a syscall when capslock goes down, and another when it goes up
[23:10] <whoever> quuxman: there is prop a plugin that already does that
[23:10] <Phoenix1969> ok, so partition the drive first?
[23:10] <Phoenix1969> then install to that?
[23:10] <we6jbo> Is there a way to start Empathy in online mode or to manually change Empathy from offline to online at the command prompt?
[23:10] <holstein> mjayk: ubuntu maintains the applications in the repos.. if you downloaded a .run file, it has a creator, and a maintainer.. you can ask them how you are to launch it.. or create a custom launcher
[23:10] <whoever> quuxman: what your describing does not sound practical
[23:10] <mjayk> i know how to launch it
[23:10] <holstein> Phoenix1969: i would literally make a CD, or USB as described at the links i gave, and boot them.. and install
[23:10] <quuxman> whoever: it's very practical. Means I never have to reach for arrow keys, which causes me RSI
[23:10] <mjayk> can i can launch it
[23:11] <zx2> i have USB-VGA adapter as /dev/fb1  whats the best X11 setup
[23:11] <mjayk> i want it to appear in the search when i type "program name" into the dash
[23:11] <whoever> quuxman: you can just create a keyboart shortcut that will capture the key combos too
[23:11] <mjayk> thats the probem
[23:11] <Phoenix1969> i did that, same result, but i did no partition
[23:11] <quuxman> whoever: I already have it totally working by using xmodmap. Only disadvantage is I have to use the normal ctrl key for cut, paste, go to URL bar, etc
[23:11] <holstein> mjayk: and you want a shortcut in the menu.. but the maintainer didnt provide that functionality... so you can ask them for it, or create a custom lanucher
[23:11] <Phoenix1969> i tried usb, cd, and desktop, all same result
[23:11] <whoever> also you can creat shortcuts and map ctrl+k  arrowRight
[23:11] <mjayk> holstein: it has a desktop launcher
[23:12] <mjayk> i want it to appear in the search lens
[23:12] <holstein> mjayk: it might not.. and i dont use lenses.. so, i'll let you wait patiently for another volunteer
[23:12] <whoever> quuxman: then map right ctrl to the left ctrl
[23:12] <holstein> Phoenix1969: you try a normal install? and you get that wubi error you posted?
[23:12] <Phoenix1969> so would partitioning the c drive help that?
[23:12] <thufir> how do you edit grub to boot to console?
[23:13] <quuxman> whoever: I didn't say anything about Control_L vs Control_R... how does that help anything?
[23:13] <mjayk> holstein: that was my question. thnx I guess you just mean someone else idling :)
[23:13] <Phoenix1969> yes, i tried a dozen times on 2 different systems
[23:13] <holstein> Phoenix1969: running the installer will allow you create a dualboot scenario
[23:13] <anonee> Hello ubuntu! so about this icon problem i ran into, I just wanted to tell u how did I resolve it, I just did sudo gtk-update-icon-cache /usr/share/icons/<mytheme>; for more info http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/gutsy/man1/gtk-update-icon-cache.1.html
[23:13] <holstein> mjayk: i mean, not me, since you are highlighting me, and im not going to know anything about adding applications to a lense
[23:13] <Phoenix1969> the dualboot says there are missing mbr files, but they are there
[23:14] <holstein> Phoenix1969: what dual boot?
[23:14] <mjayk> holstein: highlighted due to it being a response as is this :) i didnt highlight you in the original question
[23:14] <Phoenix1969> when you boot the sys, a screen comes up to choose OS
[23:14] <holstein> mjayk: sure.. but, you can not hightlight me anymore, since i cannot help you.. thanks!
[23:14] <whoever> quuxman: you said normal ctrl, which i assume is left ctrl
[23:15] <Phoenix1969> i choose ubuntu, and get instant error missing mbr
[23:15] <mjayk> holstein: same to you thanks again
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> thufir, You might start here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Booting_from_a_serial_console
[23:15] <quuxman> whoever: ah sorry. I meant either control key, in their normal position in the bottom right or left, which sucks
[23:15] <whoever> quuxman: since right and left alt also do different things
[23:15] <holstein> Phoenix1969: you choose ubuntu from grub?
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> thufir, Or actually here the page. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[23:15] <Phoenix1969> yes
[23:16] <whoever> quuxman: each key has a nemaric value that is uniqu you can bind to that if you want l or r ctrl specificly
[23:16] <thufir> wilee-nilee: thanks, I'll check that out in lynx
[23:16] <holstein> Phoenix1969: what do you want? i dont think the wubi installs are expecting grub.. that could be an issue.. i would decide which you want, and troubleshoot it
[23:17] <quuxman> think I know how to do this. Map capslock as ctrl instead of mod5, and use XKB to remap ctrl+<h> to Left keysym, etc
[23:17] <quuxman> whoever: I know :-)
[23:17] <Phoenix1969> I know no uther way, every install comes up that way, how do i avoid grub?
[23:17] <wilee-nilee> thufir, It is pretty straight forward I just forget the mod needed in /etc/default/grub or in the grub menu if you want it per-session.
[23:18] <holstein> Phoenix1969: i didnt say avoid grub.. but wubi is not expecting grub.. so that could be causing the error.. which do you want to use?
[23:18] <Phoenix1969> i dont care, i just want dual boot
[23:18] <holstein> Phoenix1969: either way, i think you have a mess.. from what you are saying, you have a wubi install that is failing, and an actual dualboot scenario that is failing
[23:18] <whoever> quuxman: are we cookin with gas yet ?
[23:18] <holstein> Phoenix1969: i would remove the wubi install, and post the *exact* grub error you are having
[23:19] <Phoenix1969> k... 1 min...
[23:19] <holstein> Phoenix1969: this is an easy tool to use from live CD's that typically fixes most boot issues https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[23:19] <quuxman> whoever: I missed the reference. I'm reading https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/XKB right now. I will have the ultimate keyboard layout soon!!!
[23:19] <Phoenix1969> http://i.imgur.com/jEV8s0y.jpg
[23:20] <Phoenix1969> ill try that
[23:20] <holstein> Phoenix1969: if you want to dual boot, remove that wubi install
[23:20] <madez> Hello everbody. How can I include a kernelmodule into initramfs?
[23:20] <Phoenix1969> how? delete the ubuntu folder on c drive?
[23:21] <quuxman> how does XKB relate to xmodmap?
[23:21] <Phoenix1969> or choose the uninstall wubi
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> Phoenix1969, control panel add remove softwaree
[23:21] <Phoenix1969> k
[23:21] <holstein> Phoenix1969: its removable as an appliction.. but, you should be seeing grub at boot, if you did a dual boot setup
[23:21] <whoever> quuxman: ok, are we making progress
[23:22] <whoever> quuxman: are you sure there isn't a plug in already that does ths
[23:22] <Phoenix1969> the grub shows, but goes straight to error when choose ubuntu
[23:22] <holstein> Phoenix1969: you are showing a windows boot loader there
[23:23] <holstein> Phoenix1969: you should have grub.. and will, if you do a proper dual boot setup
[23:23] <quuxman> whoever: yeah sure. I just have to read the docs on XKB. It makes the xmodmap system obsolete, and is not actually capable of making one key behave as two different modifiers, but XKB easily can do that
[23:23] <quuxman> er, I mean xmodmap is not capable of that
[23:23] <Phoenix1969> just uninstalled from programs& features, now what?
[23:23] <Phoenix1969> try reboot?
[23:23] <quuxman> apparently everybody still uses xmodmap because it's entrenched and simpler
[23:24] <holstein> Phoenix1969: set up the dual boot.. install ubuntu, or if you have already installed it, restore grub
[23:24] <Phoenix1969> or install from cd?
[23:24] <DarthExpeditor> I expanded a FAT16 partition on a thumb drive but when I try to copy files to it I still get the disk full error
[23:24] <holstein> Phoenix1969: if you havent.. install from cd or usb.. or dvd.. or whatever
[23:25] <Phoenix1969> was  done before, should i do again, or try the boot fixer cd?
[23:25] <holstein> Phoenix1969: try whatever fits the scnario we discussed
[23:25] <holstein> Phoenix1969: if you have installed, then restore grub
[23:25] <holstein> Phoenix1969: if you havent.. install the OS
[23:26] <whoever> quuxman: http://askubuntu.com/questions/13108/map-keyboard-arrows-to-shortcuts
[23:26] <meow> sups peoples. :) I just installed xubuntu on a dying PC, and once in a while it keeps "screen of death"-ing
[23:26] <Phoenix1969> ill be trying right now...bb soon...wish me luck...lol
[23:26] <meow> I suspect it's because it's overheating, but I'm wondering if one could find out
[23:27] <meow> what causes the computer to freeze & shut down
[23:27] <DarthExpeditor> I expanded a FAT16 partition on a thumb drive but when I try to copy files to it I still get the disk full error
[23:27] <meow> Anyone remotely interested in solving this mystery?
[23:28] <bekks> DarthExpeditor: How large are the files?
[23:28] <meow> #xubuntu
[23:29] <whoever> quuxman: did you get my last post
[23:29] <holstein> meow: linux wont fix the hardware. i would test the basics.. memory, and the hard drive
[23:29] <aguitel_> how to watch netflix in ubuntu ?
[23:29] <DarthExpeditor> 2.8GB
[23:29] <whoever> quuxman: its alreay been done for you -
[23:30] <kickit2> hello everyone - is it possible to do installs via pxe and NFS (to the local drive).  Everything I find refers to 10.04 or older and it seems that something has changed as it will not accept the local server (ive tried ftp, http, and nfs) as a source complainging of a missing file from a /tmp dir
[23:30] <bekks> DarthExpeditor: thats too big for FAT16.
[23:30] <kickit2> btw - attempting to install 12.04lts
[23:30] <DarthExpeditor> OK. Then this is fucking worthless
[23:30] <holstein> !language | DarthExpeditor
[23:31] <DarthExpeditor> Kinda what I suspected.
[23:31] <bekks> DarthExpeditor: Use FAT32 and watch your language.
[23:31] <DarthExpeditor> Problem that I have is that a vendor gave me an image for their "recovery" software
[23:32] <DarthExpeditor> I'm supposed to run the image onto the flash drive and then copy the recovery image to the drive so it can be restored.
[23:32] <DarthExpeditor> Then I boot off the drive and restore it.
[23:32] <DarthExpeditor> problem is that the "recovery" software image is in FAT16
[23:32] <DarthExpeditor> Tards
[23:32] <DarthExpeditor> Is there a way to convert it?
[23:33] <quuxman> whoever: not exactly what I'm looking for, but thanks
[23:33] <whoever> quuxman: ok, so back at originl idea
[23:34] <quuxman> whoever: yeah, that post suggested using Alt-Gr for the modifier
[23:34] <kickit2> im getting the feeling that there is something missing from the download ISO that is needed for the pxe client to accept the server as a source.  any one know what this is?  I was going to just clone a mirror but thats a 101GB download, which is crazy excessive!
[23:35] <bekks> DarthExpeditor: No. Create a FAT32 filesystem.
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> kickit2, Doesn't the iso have a sum?
[23:36] <DarthExpeditor> Yeah. That's the obvious answer but you missed the part where I told you I was having to use a factory image that is bootable.
[23:37] <bossman759> does anyone know how to completely remove KDE from ubuntu? I've tried looking on askubuntu but what I found didn't actually remove it.
[23:38] <OerHeks> !puregnome
[23:38] <kickit2> wilee-nilee: the checksome matches - I think that there is something physically left out of the iso that the repository has.  the PXE setup boots fine, but when it comes to selecting a source, it refuses to accect the lan server while it will take internet servers..
[23:38] <wilee-nilee> bossman759, Take a look in playing around. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[23:39] <bekks> DarthExpeditor: Well, you just cant copy a file that large onto it.
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> kickit2, Not sure but my suspicion would be your understanding how to set that up.
[23:40] <whoever> quuxman: i assume this is what your looking for /at http://askubuntu.com/questions/254424/how-can-i-change-what-keys-on-my-keyboard-do-how-can-i-create-custom-keyboard
[23:40] <kickit2> wilee-nille:  this link says the same thing, but for 12.10 http://askubuntu.com/questions/204786/unable-to-install-12-10-with-pxe  when doing this, their supposed "50MB" comes back as 101GB. 50MB i can handle.. 101GB and I might as well just let them all install directly over the net with http!
[23:41] <wilee-nilee> kickit2, What aren't you?
[23:42] <kickit2> net as in internet, not lan.. I want to do via LAN.. download the distro once and let the clients grab it from there
[23:43] <MarkusDBX> Anyone who knows which window manager this is? https://downloads.kitenet.net/videos/git-annex/git-annex-assistant-intro.ogv
[23:44] <markovh> how can i tell which source a package is coming from?
[23:46] <wilee-nilee> MarkusDBX, lxds or lubuntu
[23:46] <wilee-nilee> lxde
[23:46] <MarkusDBX> wilee-nilee: thanks
[23:46] <darkblue_b> hi all - I am trying backportage, but it fails at the last step "file or directory not found"  it appears to do wverything else.. I am following htese instructions  http://architects.dzone.com/articles/how-backport-packages-ubuntu
[23:46] <MarkusDBX> the tiling in lxde look smooth
[23:47] <darkblue_b> I am logged into a 12.04 system, pulling ipython from raring
[23:47] <darkblue_b> I named my new PPA ipython-bp
[23:47] <darkblue_b> but I have no idea which step is failing.. the python stack trace does not say
[23:50] <darkblue_b> Please check ipython 0.13.2-2~precise1~ppa1 in file:///tmp/backportpackage-vI8xHm
[23:50] <darkblue_b> the cmd is     backportpackage -u ppa:screenlight/ipython-bp ipython
[23:51] <Pici> darkblue_b: #ubuntu-packaging would probably be a more appropriate place to ask
[23:51] <darkblue_b> oh! didnt know.. ok
[23:52] <rypervenche> darkblue_b: I think the PPA probably also has something to do with it. PPAs are bad :/
[23:58] <localh0st> how can i chec wha'ts the repository source of package ?
[23:59] <kostkon> localh0st, apt-cache policy package_name