[00:00] <knome> jjfrv8, i'm done with the changelog-issue, so if you want to do a merge proposal, feel free to, and i'll try to review ASAP. i was going to be away all weekend, but now it looks like i'm be more or less available
[00:01] <jjfrv8> knome, great.  There should be an MP already there.
[00:01] <knome> oh, ok
[00:01] <knome> i'll look at that tomorrow then
[00:02] <jjfrv8> Cool.  If you approve that, I've got another one ready to push.
[00:02] <knome> you can push that as well (you can have multiple MP's)
[00:02] <jjfrv8> But I thought you said because of the entity changes that it would be too complicated to resolve conflicts.
[00:03] <knome> not "too complicated", just something that takes a bit time
[00:03] <knome> i don't want to slow you down, so just go ahead:)
[00:03] <Unit193> You can also build upon merges.
[00:04] <jjfrv8> Do you want me to delete the one that's there and do one big one?
[00:05] <knome> jjfrv8, if you have all changes in one branch, deleting the current one and proposing a new one is good
[00:05] <jjfrv8> Ok.
[00:05] <knome> and the issue with the entities was that you changed them twice
[00:06] <knome> anything that's as it was in your previous MP shouldn't bring any problems
[00:06] <jjfrv8> Well, yes, I think that's the case.  I just changed more of them as I encountered them in subsequent chapters.
[00:07] <knome> more entities or rechanged same entities?
[00:07] <jjfrv8> More entities
[00:07] <knome> doing several changes in one file doesn't create any conflict in itself
[00:07] <jjfrv8> Ok, then I think we should be good.
[00:08] <knome> i'm certain we are :)
[00:08] <jjfrv8> Good.  Then I'll just submit another MP, leaving the current one there.
[00:08] <knome> thanks
[00:08] <jjfrv8> Thank you.
[00:09] <knome> (and if there is conflicts, i'll just resolve them. that's not a gamebreaker)
[00:17] <knome> ok, i'm off for now
[00:18] <knome> hmm, one more mail
[00:28] <knome> jjfrv8, you have mail
[00:28] <jjfrv8> knome, thank you!
[00:28] <knome> no, thank *you* and welcome :)
[00:33] <knome> now i'm off
[00:33] <knome> have fun everyone!
[00:49] <Unit193> jjfrv8: Congrats!
[00:50] <Unit193> Though, may want to note: NickServ(NickServ@services.): jjfrv8 is not registered.
[00:50] <jjfrv8> Unit193, thanks.  What should I do about that?
[00:52] <Unit193> The normal thing to do is /msg nickserv register passwordhere emailaddress   then you can set it to private and enfore if you like.  It's also recommended to setup certfp or SASL in the client.
[00:56] <jjfrv8> Unit193, back in May when you and knome helped me with the bzr tutorial, you both recommended that I get set up with an irc 'screen'...
[00:57] <jjfrv8> and that we could revisit that later
[00:57] <jjfrv8> so maybe we can do that sometime?
[00:58] <Unit193> Sure!  What client do you currently use?  Are you good with a terminal?
[01:00] <jjfrv8> XChat and intermediate level, maybe.
[01:02] <Unit193> Cool, well if you want, you can use weechat, or irssi.  Pasi, Lyz, and myself all use irssi, and if you have a server/always on computer that'd be the easiest to use.
[01:03] <Unit193> http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi/ is a great resource, I used it a lot before.
[01:03] <jjfrv8> I can look into all of those things. I don't currently have a server but could probably come up with some solution.
[01:04] <Unit193> What you'd do first is start screen by running `screen`, then you can disconnect and reconnect while leaving any applications running inside.
[01:06] <jjfrv8> Okay.  How about if I do some homework and come back and ping you with questions?
[01:07] <Unit193> Sure!  bluesabre recently started out using it too, and I'm sure any of us would be glad to help!
[01:07] <jjfrv8> Great. Thanks.
[01:10] <micahg> pleia2: you probably get a lot of perms from CC membership
[01:11] <pleia2> micahg: yep
[01:11] <micahg> skellat: what don't we have a team for?
[01:13] <micahg> oh, bugs, right
[05:50] <elfy> bluesabre: thanks 
[07:23] <Noskcaj10> Are there any plans to merge the new xfce4 power manager from debian? The current version always suspends when the lid is shut in saucy. If it's not going to be merged soon i'll have to file a bug
[08:05] <ochosi> Noskcaj10: "new" xfce4-powerman? there haven't been really relevant commits in the last 12 months and no new release, so it's either debian-specific patches or different default settings
[08:05] <ochosi> (the only interesting commit imho is the dropping of the custom OSD for a normal notification)
[08:08] <Noskcaj10> I just realised it is just a debian change, it's at https://merges.ubuntu.com/x/xfce4-power-manager/
[08:09] <ochosi> Noskcaj10: if you're referring to the .patch file, then yes, it mostly imports translations and that commit i was referring to
[08:10] <ochosi> and anyway, i'd trust mr_pouit to get us the same patch-goodness if needed in ubuntu as in debian
[08:11] <Noskcaj10> ok. Then i need to find why my laptop doesn't understand the meaning of "lock screen"
[08:11] <ochosi> so you set powerman to lock instead of suspend and it still suspends?
[08:12] <Noskcaj10> both lock and "do nothing". It always suspends, sometimes without a lock, and it perma-crashes the network connection
[08:12] <ochosi> yeah, i've seen that networking issue before as well
[08:13] <ochosi> not sure what that's related to
[08:13] <Noskcaj10> It's caused by both closing the lid and leaving the laptop too long for me, i'll look for a bug after i eat some pizza
[08:14] <ochosi> have you checked whether it happens both on AC and on battery?
[08:26] <Noskcaj10> it does
[08:27] <ochosi> and it doesn't happen with debian? 
[08:30] <Noskcaj10> idk, i don't even know why i'm running 13.10 on my only working PC
[08:30] <ochosi> hehe
[08:30] <ochosi> well that problem with suspend also exists on 13.04, so no worries ;)
[09:06] <bluesabre> I could probably do the merge, I'll be doing thunar sometime soon
[09:16] <knome> come on bzr!
[09:16] <knome> what is "pending merge tips" supposed to mean and how do i "resolve" that?
[09:17] <knome> oh right, i just needed a commit
[09:18] <knome> stupid bzr and bzr docs not telling me that
[09:49] <Noskcaj10> knome, bzr explorer does tell you that, if you need a workaround
[16:06] <pleia2> http://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-at-project-community-computers-in-milwaukee/ published :)
[16:13] <lderan> ooo
[17:22] <bluesabre> pleia2: awesome!
[17:23] <pleia2> very inspiring!
[17:23] <pleia2> this is why we do what we do
[17:24] <bluesabre> indeed
[17:24] <bluesabre> do we have other orgs lined up for the xubuntu at... series?
[17:24] <pleia2> knome has one
[17:25] <pleia2> looking for more
[17:25] <pleia2> so if you know of any.. :)
[17:25] <bluesabre> technically, my church uses xubuntu for the kiosks, but they are just running fullscreen flash websites, so I don't think that quite counts :D
[17:27] <pleia2> it's neat, but yeah if it's not actually using any of Xfce..
[18:31] <slickymaster_> good evevning all
[18:31] <Unit193> slickymaster_: Hello.
[18:32] <bluesabre> hey slickymaster_
[18:32] <slickymaster_> Unit193, bluesabre :)
[18:32] <slickymaster_> bluesabre, congrats on the Mugshot
[18:33] <slickymaster_> bluesabre, also thanks for replying so fast to the bug
[18:33] <bluesabre> sure thing
[18:39] <elfy> bluesabre: what do you need from me about this mugshot thing? looks like you've done a call to test it 
[18:39] <elfy> hi slickymaster_ 
[18:40] <slickymaster_> elfy, have been trying to contact you to no avail
[18:41] <elfy> slickymaster_: I work odd hours ;)
[18:41] <elfy> I have read all you've said though 
[18:41] <slickymaster_> but I saw you already are aware of what I wanted to talk with you
[18:41] <elfy> yep - how far have you got? 
[18:43] <slickymaster_> I've got the test finished. I'll do what Noskcaj told me by the time I get home
[18:44] <bluesabre> elfy, I guess nothing at this point :D
[18:45] <elfy> slickymaster_: ok - so if you push it again from a new uptodate branch with your changes I'll get it done as soon as I see it
[18:45] <elfy> bluesabre: lol
[18:46] <slickymaster_> elfy, that's my plan. Let's us see if I can beat the damn Spanish witches ;)
[18:47] <elfy> lol
[18:51] <slickymaster_> got go guys, cy
[18:52] <elfy> cya slickymaster_ 
[19:34] <knome> pleia2, you around?
[19:40] <bluesabre> oh, pleia2?
[19:40] <bluesabre> pleia2 was around earler
[19:40] <bluesabre> not sure where pleia2 went
[19:40] <bluesabre> :D
[19:40] <knome> haha
[19:48] <pleia2> packing for trip
[19:48] <knome> aha, are you available for some time at some point?
[19:49] <JCD> cu
[19:49] <pleia2> not really, leaving here in 40 minutes then airplanes and things
[19:49] <knome> uegh, ok
[19:49] <knome> when are you around the next time?
[19:50] <pleia2> uh, july 29th? :)
[19:50] <knome> (ok for not having time now, but let's schedule some ASAP)
[19:50] <knome> awww!
[19:50] <pleia2> after cls and oscon I'm flying across the country for a wedding
[19:50] <knome> in that case, do you think you have 5minutes at some point to set up the wikipage for the article series?
[19:50] <pleia2> sure
[19:50] <knome> ok, ta
[19:51] <knome> i'll send an email to tero when we've set that up
[19:51]  * pleia2 adds to todo list
[19:51] <knome> (and please notice, in this case, they aren't really using xubuntu for all their machines, he's just promoting it on his classes and telling people to use that)
[19:52] <knome> (so some of the questions aren't appropriate as they are now, but need some tweaking - which is why i wanted to chat with you)
[19:52] <pleia2> sure, I think a variety of stories is good
[19:52] <pleia2> I figure the questions will change to cater to the org
[19:52] <pleia2> I just made them up
[19:52] <knome> heh
[23:47] <shawnb> knome, did the documentation get completely finished?
[23:48] <knome> shawnb, jack is in good progress for the 12.04 SRU to be done
[23:48] <knome> shawnb, you can always look at the current documentation and improve that though :)
[23:59] <shawnb> I think I will; when do you guys work on saucy?
[23:59] <knome> ongoing, feel free to start whenever you feel like it