[00:46] <michaela> how do i change the clock on the top panel to show 12 hour clock instead of 24 hour clock
[00:47] <Poisoned_Dragon> go into the clock properties.
[00:47] <michaela> ok
[00:47] <michaela> now what
[00:47] <Poisoned_Dragon> there should be a drop box for the clock format
[00:47] <Poisoned_Dragon> Pick one that shows a 12 hour format
[00:48] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh geez... I didn't even ask what desktop environment. sorry
[00:48] <Poisoned_Dragon> I could be giving you the wrong advice
[00:49] <Poisoned_Dragon> lol... I just brain farted.
[00:49] <Poisoned_Dragon> It's xubuntu... duh! It's xfce
[00:49] <Poisoned_Dragon> I'm juggling too many distro help rooms. :)
[01:26] <CyberJuanito> Heelp! A noob here!
[01:26] <Poisoned_Dragon> A question would be more helpful
[01:28] <CyberJuanito> Xubuntu taskbar missing, i try xfce4-panel in "run" dialogue, it appears again, it blinks and is gone again, what do i do?
[01:28] <CyberJuanito> yes, i´m sorry
[01:29] <Poisoned_Dragon> do it in terminal and see if it throws an error
[01:30] <CyberJuanito> ok, lets see
[01:32] <CyberJuanito> yes, oh god so many things, error bus and many "failed" messages
[01:34] <CyberJuanito> "unable to get application list: operacion cancelada (cancelled operation)
[01:35] <CyberJuanito> "indicatorObjetc class does not have an accesible description"
[01:36] <Poisoned_Dragon> jinkies
[01:38] <CyberJuanito> what i did: installed xubuntu, installed updates, installed openoffice, installed chromium, TRY to install propietary stuff (failed), TRY to install vlc (failed), restarted system and got this :(
[01:39] <Poisoned_Dragon> how did they fail?
[01:41] <CyberJuanito> they just stop installing after download and got a message saying they could not be installed, can´t remember the exact sentence of the error, but it looked like generic installation fail
[01:42] <Poisoned_Dragon> type this in terminal: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:42] <Poisoned_Dragon> I want to see if there was an interupted istall
[01:43] <CyberJuanito> right away
[01:43] <Poisoned_Dragon> If it's "fine" There will be no output
[01:45] <CyberJuanito> nothing, just ask for password and then nothing
[01:45] <Poisoned_Dragon> hmm...
[01:45] <Poisoned_Dragon> So, what were you trying to install before vlc?
[01:47] <CyberJuanito> the pack that allows to run flash, mp3, mpg and other stuff
[01:48] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh... Hmm
[01:49] <Poisoned_Dragon> Well, you could try installing it again in terminet using apt-get, if you know the package name.
[01:49] <Poisoned_Dragon> With that said, we need to worry about your panels.
[01:49] <bazhang> xubuntu-restricted-extras is the name
[01:49] <Poisoned_Dragon> ok, try: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:50] <Poisoned_Dragon> See if that pops an error.
[01:50] <CyberJuanito> right away
[01:52] <CyberJuanito> o crap, it got disconected from inet, please wait
[01:56] <CyberJuanito> (lol me talk like robot)
[01:56] <CyberJuanito> ok, downloading
[01:58] <CyberJuanito> e: prior errors apply to /var/cache bla bla bla
[01:58] <CyberJuanito> that message repeated many times
[01:58] <CyberJuanito> with different files i think
[01:58] <Poisoned_Dragon> hmm
[02:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> type this: apt-cache policy xubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> To see if it shows as installed
[02:02] <CyberJuanito> yes sir
[02:02] <Poisoned_Dragon> same with vlc: apt-cache policy vlc
[02:03] <CyberJuanito> says none of them are installed
[02:03] <Poisoned_Dragon> lets see if we can clean out the cache.
[02:03] <CyberJuanito> ok
[02:04] <Poisoned_Dragon> sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove.
[02:05] <CyberJuanito> done
[02:06] <Poisoned_Dragon> try installing xubuntu-restricted-extras again
[02:06] <Poisoned_Dragon> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:07] <CyberJuanito> right away
[02:09] <Poisoned_Dragon> still throwing out errors?
[02:11] <CyberJuanito> geez..it was doin it so good.. but at the end "error: leyendo el fichero info del paquete (reading info file? of package). Error input/output
[02:12] <Poisoned_Dragon> hmm....
[02:12] <CyberJuanito> e: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[02:12] <CyberJuanito> Poison...
[02:12] <CyberJuanito> Poison_Dragon, THANK YOU for taking the time sir,but i have to go now :( i´ll try to do fix it with what you have said to me ;)
[02:13] <CyberJuanito> Poisoned*
[02:13] <Poisoned_Dragon> k
[02:13] <Poisoned_Dragon> sorry I wasn't more helpful
[02:14] <CyberJuanito> you helped me, thanks
[04:17] <shakti> Hello
[04:17] <shakti> I am using Xubuntu 12.04
[04:18] <shakti> i uninstalled my network manger after my internet stopped responding
[04:18] <shakti> and now I am unable to get it back
[04:18] <shakti> as no form of internet works on my system anymore
[04:18] <shakti> the numerous blogs/tutorials I read
[04:19] <shakti> all demand an active internet connection to apt-get newtwork manager
[04:19] <shakti> is there any alternative
[04:19] <shakti> ???
[04:19] <shakti> Please help
[04:22] <holstein> shakti: get what back? the network manage? why did you remove it? and how did you remove it?
[04:22] <shakti> yes the network manager
[04:22] <shakti> my internet had stopped working
[04:23] <shakti> and was not being connected to wifi or lan
[04:23] <holstein> shakti: i gathered that, from when you said "my internet stopped working" above
[04:23] <holstein> shakti: how did you remove it?
[04:23] <shakti> sudo apt-get remove --purge NetworkManager
[04:23] <holstein> shakti: what i was getting at was, why did you remove that as a "fix" ? did you read a guide?
[04:24] <shakti> yes
[04:24] <shakti> only to realize that the guide in its later part mentioned
[04:24] <shakti> that I would need to re-install using an active internet connection
[04:25] <shakti> and now I am screwed
[04:25] <holstein> shakti: what guid?
[04:25] <holstein> guide*
[04:25] <shakti> it was on some blog
[04:26] <shakti> is there anything that can be done to restore my internet
[04:26] <holstein> shakti: what would you like to do? download the packages from the internet? and install? or manually set up the connetion?
[04:27] <holstein> shakti: yes.. plenty
[04:27] <holstein> shakti: you can always reinstall
[04:27] <shakti> thanks you are a savior
[04:27] <holstein> shakti: you can use a live CD to generate download scripts easily via synaptic
[04:27] <holstein> shakti: you can manually setup the wired connection
[04:28] <shakti> I don't have a live cd
[04:28] <shakti> I used a USB for installation
[04:28] <shakti> can I still do it
[04:29] <holstein> shakti: live media then... cd or whatever.. you know that when i say "live CD", important part there is that you can connect to the internect from it, correct? not that it be on a Cd
[04:29] <holstein> shakti: doesnt matter what you run the live CD iso from
[04:29] <shakti> I am a newbie
[04:29] <shakti> I didn't know that
[04:29] <shakti> moreover I am a little panicked
[04:30] <shakti> have a college deadline to meet
[04:30] <holstein> this is something pretty "light" that i did with a piano player
[04:30] <shakti> and the mean machine won't work
[04:30] <holstein> i call it newage
[04:30] <holstein> http://www.rstrio.com/skyjazzcd.html
[04:30] <holstein> new-age
[04:30] <holstein> shakti: sorry.. wrong channel
[04:31] <shakti> I have the live cd then
[04:31] <shakti> please guide me how to do it
[04:32] <holstein> shakti: synaptic, as i have guided, generates download scripts
[04:33] <shakti> i am really sorry to bother you like this
[04:34] <shakti> but i don't understand what you mean
[04:34] <shakti> I mean from where can I access synaptic
[04:35] <holstein> shakti: i would install it onto the live CD.. but its just one way to do it
[04:35] <holstein> shakti: this is relevant http://askubuntu.com/questions/974/how-can-i-install-software-or-packages-without-internet-offline
[04:42] <shakti> tried installing keryx
[04:42] <shakti> fails to install on my system a
[04:43] <shakti> and the synaptic manager fails to starts
[04:43] <holstein> shakti: you'll need to define "fails"
[04:43] <holstein> shakti: in depth
[04:45] <shakti> keyrx depends on python-support (>=0.90.0) however Package python-support is not installed
[04:45] <shakti> dpkg: eroor processing keryx (--install)
[04:45] <holstein> shakti: you'll need to manually grab those dependanies as well
[04:45] <shakti> dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[04:45] <holstein> shakti: if you are not online
[04:45] <shakti> okay
[04:45] <holstein> shakti: right.. you are not online
[04:45] <shakti> yes
[04:46] <holstein> so, the package manager cant automatically resolve dependencies for you from the repo
[04:46] <holstein> shakti: why not connect to a netork manuallly?
[04:46] <shakti> is there any way I can connect my machine to my friends ad-hoc network manually and then install all these packages
[04:47] <holstein> shakti: manually
[04:47] <holstein> shakti: thats what im asking.. why are you not just connecting manually?
[04:47] <shakti> I don't know how to?
[04:48] <shakti> I am technically challenged
[04:48] <shakti> i have tried lshw -C network and it says networking-disabled
[04:49] <holstein> shakti: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[04:49] <holstein> shakti: can you not wire it up?
[04:50] <shakti> no I have only wifi access in my dorm
[04:53] <holstein> shakti: then, the link i gave explains how to manually set it up
[04:53] <holstein> shakti: also, the live usb you have should have the pacakges you need on it
[04:55] <shakti> thanks
[04:55] <shakti> I am really grateful for your help
[04:56] <shakti> I might have to disturb you
[04:56] <shakti> if I get stuck
[04:56] <shakti> thus, my apologies in advance
[05:33] <xubuntu864> hello I have a question. How do I open the desktop and software center in xubuntu 13.04? I am a total newbie.
[05:34] <xubuntu864> I can get bittorrent to open up but cant get further that there.
[05:40] <xubuntu864> Is someone able to help me?
[05:42] <holstein> xubuntu864: the desktop directory can be found in the filemanager
[05:42] <holstein> xubuntu864: you should see the package manager in the menu as well
[05:47] <xubuntu864> I am obviously in a learning curve problem. I can see the bit torrent screen but cant figure out what to do next.
[05:49] <holstein> xubuntu864: what bit torrent screen?
[05:49] <holstein> xubuntu864: im not understanding how bit torrent is relating to this question
[05:50] <xubuntu864> bittorrent is the only screen I can get to open from the dvd I burned.
[05:50] <xubuntu864> Or perhaps it is trying to open the file I want
[05:51] <holstein> xubuntu864: what dvd?
[05:52] <xubuntu864> I have an old xp machine and want to install xubuntu on it as os from disc.
[05:53] <holstein> xubuntu864: ok.. and you have installed?
[05:54] <xubuntu864> not that I can see. I can get torrent movie files to work.
[05:57] <xubuntu864> windows crashed mixing os files all over the hard drive so it no longer works as it should. That is why I want to get rid of xp altogether and just run a linux program.
[05:59] <xubuntu864> when I boot up it first opens in windows then the bit torrent screen opens but there is no option to install xubuntu anywhere.
[06:00] <holstein> xubuntu864: torrent movie files?
[06:01] <holstein> xubuntu864: if you have bad hardware, linux wont "fix" it
[06:01] <holstein> xubuntu864: from what you are describing, i would want to backup my data from the hard drive, and test it
[06:01] <holstein> xubuntu864: what im asking is, do you have xubuntu installed?
[06:02] <xubuntu864> I am going to assume that I have not.
[06:03] <holstein> xubuntu864: you can "recover" your data using a xubuntu live CD..
[06:04] <xubuntu864> It is late and I am going to bed. I will try again tomorrow. thank you for your responses. I will think about what you said.
[06:05] <holstein> xubuntu864: cheers
[06:11] <kRush> can anyone explain to me why enumerating /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail reduces the available entropy?
[06:29] <jack_2> Hey guys
[09:44] <jarnos> Are session crashes common to you? I get one usually when logging out and session cannot remember applications properly.
[09:45] <jarnos> This kind of issue has been present on Xfce since many Xubuntu releases.
[10:13] <HypothesisFrog> hi. It's very annoying. I have a panel that's just stopped autohiding. No explanation.
[10:14]  * HypothesisFrog has limited screen space
[10:15] <Sysi> run xfce4-panel -r
[10:22] <HypothesisFrog> Sysi ta. That seemed t o do the trick. Got my screen space back now.
[11:14] <thunder1212> hi
[11:14] <baizon> hello thunder1212
[11:14] <baizon> how can i help you?
[14:57] <xubuntu933> any brazilian?
[16:27] <xubuntu829> Total beginner here
[16:28] <xubuntu829> I have used Ubuntu since 2006, but the latest version isn't supported by my old Dell computer's configuration
[16:29] <xubuntu829> I want to switch from Ubuntu to XUbuntu -- preferably loading from a USB thumb drive
[16:29] <xubuntu829> But I want to replace the version of Ubuntu I have on my Ubuntu drive with Xubuntu and keep my dual-boot capability
[16:31] <xubuntu829> Problem is I configured the Dell for Ubuntu so long ago I forgot how it was done, and I'm not a computer geek for a living so I need
[16:31] <xubuntu829> to always start from the beginning
[16:32] <xubuntu829> I'll check back later for any replies
[16:45] <baizon> xubuntu829: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-xfce-xubuntu-on-ubuntu-linux/
[16:53] <xubuntu829> Thanks baizon!
[17:27] <Jedi_Phenix> hi :-(
[18:08] <jack> hello all
[21:42] <Chaser> Hi how do I set a keyboard shortcut to open a new terminal tab. cntrl+shift+t used to work but it stopped working for a while.
[23:29] <meow> Hey, got a quick question if someone is down to solve a minor mystery. :)
[23:29] <knome> !ask
[23:29] <holstein> meow: linux wont fix the hardware. i would test the basics.. memory, and the hard drive
[23:30] <meow> lol sorry y'all, here's the thing: using xubuntu on a dying PC and it keeps "screen of death"-ing if you see what I mean. I suspect it's because the PC's overheating, but I'm wondering if one could find out why the computer keeps shutting down suddenly
[23:30] <meow> aka I'd like an autopsy of my session, if that makes any sense
[23:31] <meow> Holstein: Is there a program built into xubuntu to see those stats by any chance?
[23:33] <holstein> meow: i test those without an operating system running
[23:33] <holstein> meow: the built in memory test.. hard drive tests from live CD's
[23:33] <meow> Interesting
[23:34] <meow> holstein, here's some context: I'm in bed and I'm merely curious as to whether or not aiming my fan at the back of the PC would help it stay alive longer (if not a whole session)
[23:35] <meow> if there's a more complex problem with the PC than just heat (it's also fucking warm today), I'm ready to declare this piece of machinery deceased
[23:35] <holstein> meow: i have no such issues, and you shouldnt either.. you could blow dust out of the PC and "fix" it..
[23:35] <holstein> !language | meow
[23:36] <meow> holstein, anyway there's software to detect the temperature of the CPU/GPU ?
[23:36] <holstein> meow: sure.. but you dont need it, if there is dust in the unit
[23:36] <holstein> meow: have you looked?
[23:36] <meow> Have I looked if there is dust in the hardware?
[23:37] <meow> holstein, shouldn't that be rather difficult if the PC is a laptop?
[23:37] <holstein> meow: they all come apart
[23:38] <knome> more or less..
[23:38] <meow> sheet neega I hadn't even considered opening the poor basterd up. Any way the dust can be removed safely without resorting to surgery?
[23:38] <knome> meow, watch your language, and consider this your last warning
[23:39]  * meow meowwwww
[23:39] <holstein> meow: if you literally buy a can of air and blow it in there, that might help
[23:39] <holstein> meow: try another offtopic channel for general chat
[23:39] <meow> Haha sounds good, thanks for your help holstein !
[23:40] <holstein> meow: you can usually get the straw into one of the holes enough to blow dust out..
[23:41] <knome> or if it's an old laptop and you're ready to even get rid of it, you could just carefully open the screws to get better into it
[23:44] <meow> Hmmm I've been looking around the house for guerilla tools for this mission
[23:44] <meow> And then I got distracted by this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2obH7ugvIsQ
[23:44] <meow> Nice interview knome
[23:44] <knome> thanks - but for general chatter, see #xubuntu-offtopic
[23:45]  * meow meeeoooooowwww