| manchicken | Is the kubuntu-ppa just KDE stuff? | 01:40 |
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| tsimpson | KDE (SC) and whatever it needs | 01:41 |
| manchicken | I've been running on my VirtualBox at work with no problems at all, but I use my home machine differently, and it's not as easy to roll back my laptop as it is to roll back a virtualbox :) | 01:41 |
| manchicken | Anybody had a chance to review my merge request yet? | 02:11 |
| * ScottK pokes at JontheEchidna ^^^ | 03:04 | |
| manchicken | There's some lovely silliness on #kubuntu right now. | 03:07 |
| ScottK | Oh? | 03:16 |
| juancarlospaco | Uh? | 03:17 |
| manchicken | Holy crap... I forgot that trolling happened on IRC. | 03:27 |
| manchicken | I'm going to have to stop sooner than that. | 03:27 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 03:28 |
| manchicken | I can't do anything to help someone understand that HTML is not a GUI toolkit... I should accept that. | 03:28 |
| juancarlospaco | google QMLWeb and maybe it is | 03:30 |
| juancarlospaco | :) | 03:30 |
| manchicken | It still wouldn't be the toolkit. | 03:30 |
| juancarlospaco | its the markup, and its a toolkit | 03:35 |
| juancarlospaco | lol | 03:35 |
| juancarlospaco | is not THE toolkit | 03:35 |
| juancarlospaco | ia a toolkit | 03:35 |
| juancarlospaco | :P | 03:35 |
| ScottK | There is a reason I don't have out in #kubuntu. | 03:48 |
| ScottK | have/hang | 03:53 |
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| Quintasan | urgh | 08:37 |
| Quintasan | any freaking idea why KDE doesn't have the Set as wallpaper on rightclick on a image file? | 08:38 |
| Quintasan | better yet | 08:38 |
| Quintasan | why it's STILL not there | 08:38 |
| Quintasan | https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105319/ | 08:41 |
| Quintasan | 5 months since last message | 08:41 |
| Quintasan | oh god | 08:41 |
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| BluesKaj | Howdy folks | 11:54 |
| soee | hiho | 12:01 |
| manchicken | Is kwin broken on the kubuntu-ppa? | 12:07 |
| manchicken | Ooh, I think that some of the kwin data may be trashed... | 12:08 |
| tester56 | hi, does anyone know how to export all of the semantic data, apart from copying whole .kde? | 12:09 |
| tester56 | which files/folders are responsible for storing this stuff? | 12:09 |
| tester56 | is nepomuk backup meant to do this? | 12:10 |
| tester56 | i don't want to lose all my tags, ratings etc. when migrating to a new install | 12:10 |
| BluesKaj | do you have a / partition ? | 12:12 |
| tester56 | BluesKaj: i don't get the question | 12:14 |
| BluesKaj | then I don't get what you mean | 12:14 |
| tester56 | how? | 12:14 |
| BluesKaj | where the new install is going | 12:15 |
| tester56 | oh ... on a different ssd | 12:15 |
| manchicken | IS there any cache for kwin that I could delete or something? | 12:15 |
| BluesKaj | you could try dd , tester56 | 12:16 |
| manchicken | I wonder if it's just that the oxygen window decoration isn't instlled... it's not showing up in the picker. | 12:16 |
| tester56 | BluesKaj: I think you miunderstood my question ... | 12:16 |
| tester56 | It's not about backing up my data ... | 12:16 |
| BluesKaj | obviously | 12:16 |
| tester56 | It's about the hidden bits of Akonadi, nepomuk etc. | 12:16 |
| BluesKaj | ok,nm , then I have no idea | 12:17 |
| manchicken | This is the strangest thing... it's like kwin is functioning just fine but without any decorations. | 12:17 |
| tester56 | When I tag somethin in dolphin it gets stored in some place | 12:17 |
| tester56 | i wanted to know where it gets stored and how to migrate it without copying whole .kde directory | 12:17 |
| tester56 | manchicken: pastebin output of kwin --replace & | 12:18 |
| tester56 | manchicken: pastebin output of kwin --replace & | 12:18 |
| tester56 | manchicken: try backing up and deleting .kde/share/config/kwinrc | 12:19 |
| manchicken | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5893903/ | 12:19 |
| tester56 | manchicken: be careful: this will reset all you kwin settings | 12:19 |
| manchicken | Activities as well? | 12:19 |
| tester56 | manchicken: only kwin settings ... but i am pretty sure it won't help as there seems indeed to be a problem with decoration: look at the line "KWin: The default decoration plugin is corrupt and could not be loaded. | 12:20 |
| tester56 | " | 12:20 |
| manchicken | Yay | 12:21 |
| tester56 | manchicken: try another decoration ... | 12:21 |
| tester56 | like Laptop for e.g. | 12:21 |
| manchicken | Yeah... | 12:22 |
| tester56 | and does it get loaded? | 12:22 |
| manchicken | w00t | 12:22 |
| manchicken | I had to replace kwin again | 12:22 |
| tester56 | and now the decoration works? | 12:23 |
| manchicken | Yeah | 12:23 |
| manchicken | Though many of them don't seem to have a window shade icon. Curse them... | 12:24 |
| tester56 | which decoration are you using now? | 12:25 |
| manchicken | NewAir | 12:26 |
| tester56 | and what does not work? | 12:26 |
| manchicken | So it looks like the package in the PPA breaks the default decoration. | 12:26 |
| tester56 | could be ... i don't use the ppa | 12:26 |
| manchicken | The default one, I don't know the name of the default one. I started with default 13.04 and then last night - since I hadn't had trouble with the PPA at work - I installed the PPA on my laptop. | 12:27 |
| tester56 | The library /usr/lib/kde4/kwin3_oxygen.so has no API version | 12:27 |
| manchicken | That leads me to believe that it's oxygen :) | 12:28 |
| tester56 | yeah it is oxygen | 12:28 |
| manchicken | I'm gonna bounce X, see if activities start behaving without kwin being crashed and replaced. | 12:29 |
| manchicken | Sweet. | 12:31 |
| tester56 | manchicken: try to start the guest session and see if things work there to be sure it is not config related | 12:45 |
| BluesKaj | manchicken, ?? | 12:45 |
| manchicken | Back | 12:45 |
| tester56 | manchicken: if things don't work simply purge the ppa | 12:45 |
| BluesKaj | wth was that ? | 12:45 |
| manchicken | The theme messed up my other settings, so I had to change some stuff around and restart K, now I'm good I think. | 12:46 |
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| yofel | tester56: when it comes to akonadi, it stores the data in .local/share/akonadi/ (or whatever else $XDG_DATA_HOME is set to), nepomuk's virtuoso database is in .kde/share/apps/nepomuk/repository/main/data/virtuosobackend/ but I don't know if that's all | 13:12 |
| tester56 | yofel: i have found a nice method: in any pim application for e.g. kmail you have a menu entry "Export Kmail Data" (under tools) ... now you can export them .. you need to install mysql-client-5.5 though otherwise you get an error | 13:14 |
| yofel | ah, nice | 13:14 |
| tester56 | yofel: but do you know how nepomuk backups works? | 13:14 |
| tester56 | i can't get it working :-( | 13:15 |
| yofel | not really, I never tried | 13:15 |
| tester56 | I want wo export all my nepomuk data ... but the files seem empty | 13:15 |
| tester56 | i wen to systemsettings / Desktop Search / Backup /Manual Backup and typed in a zip archive name | 13:16 |
| tester56 | it says: successfully exported but ark can't see any files inside the zip | 13:16 |
| tester56 | it seems empty .. gunzip does nothing (it's gzip compressed) | 13:17 |
| tester56 | does it work for you? | 13:17 |
| yofel | trying | 13:20 |
| tester56 | thx :-) | 13:21 |
| yofel | typical... http://paste.kde.org/pdfaa4edc/ | 13:23 |
| shadeslayer | ohai | 13:23 |
| yofel | next try | 13:23 |
| tester56 | yofel: are you using 4.11? | 13:25 |
| yofel | yes, on 13.10 | 13:25 |
| tester56 | i have never got that crash ... so basically you can't even export? | 13:26 |
| yofel | well, now it didn't crash. But it didn't export anything useful either :S | 13:26 |
| tester56 | what did it export? | 13:26 |
| yofel | a 4K file with nothing human readable inside | 13:27 |
| tester56 | mine has 1,2 kb | 13:27 |
| tester56 | how did you determin the content? | 13:28 |
| tester56 | i can't even see whats inside | 13:28 |
| tester56 | looks like nothing | 13:28 |
| tester56 | yofel: ? | 13:34 |
| yofel | opnened it in vim. But all I see is 4KiB of garbage. | 13:35 |
| tester56 | the zip file? or did you use another format? | 13:35 |
| tester56 | i could not find documenation for this backup application ... how should it be handled? | 13:36 |
| yofel | I didn't see where I could set the format, I just choose a file and pressed next | 13:39 |
| yofel | hm, if I don't press finish, it keeps filling my xsession-errors with | 13:40 |
| yofel | 15:39:24 nepomukbackup(2530)/kio (KDirListerCache) KDirListerCache::processPendingUpdates: "/tmp/_CACHE_CLEAN_" | 13:40 |
| yofel | it's stuck on my firefox cache that I put into /tmp o.O | 13:40 |
| yofel | anyway, warrants a bug report | 13:43 |
| yofel | later anyway | 13:43 |
| * yofel off | 13:43 | |
| * apachelogger_ looks at JontheEchidna | 15:31 | |
| * apachelogger_ mentions https://code.launchpad.net/~manchicken/kubuntu-debug-installer/kubuntu-debug-installer/+merge/174915 | 15:31 | |
| * apachelogger_ leaves again | 15:31 | |
| * genii sips and ponders this manchicken | 15:32 | |
| tester56 | yofel, are you here again? | 15:51 |
| Riddell | bonsoir a paris | 16:23 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 16:25 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: where are you? | 16:31 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: Munich | 16:31 |
| Riddell | ooh, home of the large Kubuntu rollout :) | 16:31 |
| shadeslayer | indeedly :) | 16:31 |
| Riddell | quick find a government office and take a sneaky look | 16:31 |
| shadeslayer | haha | 16:32 |
| shadeslayer | can't get out of the airport | 16:32 |
| shadeslayer | hm | 16:38 |
| shadeslayer | flight in another hour | 16:38 |
| shadeslayer | maybe I should go and check boarding | 16:39 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: you didn't upload RC1 :( | 16:46 |
| Riddell | didn't I? | 16:47 |
| shadeslayer | don't see RC1 in http://pad.lv/u/kde4libs | 16:48 |
| shadeslayer | it seems you didn't upload kde4libs? :O | 16:48 |
| tester56 | yofel: i tried exporting and importing on another install (with same home content) and the tags were not found | 16:49 |
| yofel | file a bug please | 16:49 |
| tester56 | yofel: what should i write about: writing it does not work is not enough ... | 16:50 |
| tester56 | i can't debug that stuff :-( | 16:50 |
| yofel | well, vHanda_ will know more, but for starters you could enable kdebug output just for nepomuk* and attach the log to the report about backups being incomplete | 16:51 |
| tester56 | yofel: okay thanks for your help | 16:52 |
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| littlegirl | Hey there, I just filed a bug report at https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=315380 on a bug that's apparently already considered resolved even though I can still consistently repeat it. When I asked the KDE people why it's considered resolved they said the software is obsolete. I'm just curious why there's obsolete software in the LTS. (: | 18:04 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 315380 in general "Rekonq "crashes" when closing application." [Crash,Resolved: unmaintained] | 18:04 |
| littlegirl | Oh, and hi. I haven't been in here in a while. (: | 18:05 |
| maco | presumably it wasnt obsolete when it was put into the LTS | 18:15 |
| maco | if it has gone obsolete since then, it falls to the distro to maintain it | 18:15 |
| maco | though if it's in universe, not main, it still might not get much attention | 18:15 |
| Quintasan | littlegirl: Look, the bugreport says everything, 0.x branch is deprecated | 18:26 |
| Quintasan | littlegirl: I do not think we can update packages there now. | 18:26 |
| Quintasan | But I'm wondering if we don't actually have an update in ppa | 18:26 |
| yofel | newest is in the backports PPA | 18:26 |
| yofel | and 1.0 in precise-backports | 18:27 |
| yofel | I think that was about what we were able to do | 18:27 |
| littlegirl | Okay, thanks, that makes sense. (: | 18:31 |
| juancarlospaco | for some reason kubuntu its not installing on SSD right now :( | 21:56 |
| ahoneybun | hey guys | 22:27 |
| * genii immediately suspects a Vertex2 | 22:35 | |
| Riddell | hi ahoneybun | 23:49 |
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