[06:36] <Kilos> morning weekenders
[07:29] <magespawn> good morning all
[07:35] <Kilos> hi there magespawn 
[08:39] <Kilos> yo kbmonkey 
[08:50] <Kilos> whats with the funny nick monkey 8OWAAKTB2 
[09:07] <Kilos> sjoe net splits day again
[09:08] <Kilos> wb Cantide ThatGraemeGuy Tonberry  and others
[09:08] <Tonberry> hallo
[09:08] <Cantide> hey Kilos et al '-';
[09:09] <Kilos> hehe 
[09:10] <magespawn> still in here today, apart from net spilts
[09:11] <Kilos> tracking working magespawn yay
[09:11] <Kilos> hows things your side?
[09:11] <Kilos> you are starting to get busy like our other geeky types
[09:12] <magespawn> all good, doing some study work
[09:12] <Kilos> good
[09:12] <magespawn> geeky types are always busy, not always with work though
[09:13] <Kilos> no sometimes it slips out that its ingress wars
[09:13] <Kilos> hehe
[09:15] <magespawn> indeed, did some myself recently, do not have any competition out here 
[09:16] <Kilos> just as well or youd also be busy
[09:17] <magespawn> also getting info and lessons on how to write apps for android
[09:18] <Squirm> Morning
[09:18] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[09:18]  * Squirm steps into the conversation
[09:19] <Squirm> I wanted to code Android apps, but then I realised it'd be good if I knew Java, which I don't
[09:19] <Squirm> I guess I'd still like to learn
[09:19] <magespawn> hey Squirm
[09:19] <Squirm> hello magespawn, Kilos 
[09:20] <magespawn> there are a whole bunch of lessons etc available
[09:20] <Squirm> I know. But I think I'd rather learn C first
[09:20] <Squirm> or C++
[09:21] <magespawn> do you know any languages?
[09:22] <Squirm> I knew PHP and Delphi a few years ago, now I code in Python
[09:23] <Squirm> and have done a bit of BASH scripting, not nice though :/
[09:23] <magespawn> well you are ahead of me then, i am still learning python, as my first
[09:23] <magespawn> i did some basic ages ago but that is about it
[09:23] <Squirm> good start
[09:24] <Squirm> I like Python
[09:24] <magespawn> superfly influence
[09:24] <Kilos> lol
[09:24] <Squirm> and if you need help, just shout
[09:25] <Kilos> 	Oracle to halt development of Sun virtualization technologies
[09:25] <Squirm> :/
[09:25] <Squirm> well there goes my VirtualBox
[09:25] <Kilos> oracle really messing up there
[09:26] <magespawn> will do, i was looking for a simple project to watch/participate in, hopefully one that was just starting
[09:26] <Squirm> well, guess it'll still work just no updates coming
[09:26] <magespawn> is the code for that open source?
[09:26] <Squirm> magespawn: that's the problem with me and coding - I need something worthwhile to partake in
[09:26] <Squirm> idk
[09:26] <magespawn> maybe sonebody else will take it up
[09:27] <magespawn> somebody
[09:27] <Squirm> I'd think it quite a common VM technology for desktop machines
[09:27] <magespawn> there is a lot of support from google for android dev
[09:27] <magespawn> so lots of resources
[09:28] <Squirm> licensed under GPL
[09:28] <Squirm> ah, found the code
[09:28] <Squirm> http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.2.16/VirtualBox-4.2.16.tar.bz2
[09:28] <magespawn> now there is a project to run with
[09:28] <Squirm> I wouldn't use it to run my server software on though
[09:31] <Cantide> was the "4 days" countdown for Juju?
[09:31] <Cantide> ( on ubuntu.com) 
[09:33] <magespawn> no idea
[09:33] <Cantide> i was expecting something awesome >.<
[09:34] <Cantide> and then Juju appeared there -.-
[09:52] <magespawn> a well, bit of a let down i take it?
[09:52]  * magespawn has beeen reading the sight
[09:52] <Cantide> yeah
[09:55] <magespawn> it could be interesting to set it up 
[09:55] <Cantide> juju?
[09:56] <magespawn> well, a cloud system across multiple physical machines
[09:56] <Cantide> '-';
[09:56] <Cantide> if there were 9 machines
[09:56] <Cantide> would it be cloud 9?
[09:56]  * Cantide hides
[09:57] <magespawn> http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud busy reading here
[09:57] <magespawn> lol @ Cantide
[09:57]  * Cantide clicks
[09:59]  * magespawn tries to smack Cantide with a trout and misses
[10:00]  * Cantide eats the trout
[10:00] <Cantide> i should get lunch
[10:00] <Cantide> brb
[10:00] <magespawn> lunch is a most excellent idea
[10:00]  * magespawn goes for lunch bbl
[10:11]  * Cantide invites everyone over for biltong and coffee
[10:12] <Cantide> strangest lunch ever :D
[10:12] <Kilos> yummy
[10:12] <Kilos> biltong always good
[10:12] <Cantide> yeah.. but not for a meal :p
[10:13] <Cantide> it was just in my room, and i am lazy.. so..
[10:13] <Kilos> best meal ever
[10:16] <Kilos> hi Mezenir 
[10:24] <Kilos> yo mazal 
[10:25] <mazal> Middag oom
[10:33] <magespawn> afternoon
[10:34] <magespawn> friend of mine like biltong and chocolate
[10:34] <magespawn> does anyone have experince with line bonding?
[10:36] <magespawn> typos all over the place today
[10:43] <Squirm> magespawn: what lines are you looking to bond?
[10:43] <Squirm> I know we've recently bonded 4 lines through mweb
[10:45] <Squirm> though Telkom being Telkom, our sync rates are terrible, terrible enough to warrant us only using 3 of those 4 lines :/
[10:45] <Squirm> stupid exchange is the bottleneck afaik
[10:47] <mazal> Anybody know what the package cairo is ?
[10:47] <mazal> I'm trying to leant to compile an app from source , but I get an unmet dependency 'cairo' , and apt-get doesn't know it
[10:47] <mazal> learn even
[10:50] <Kilos> i seen a libcairo
[10:50] <Kilos> look in synaptic and see what its for
[10:55] <Squirm> "The Cairo 2D vector graphics library DirectFB build"
[10:55] <Squirm> libcairo-directfb2
[10:55]  * Squirm shrugs
[10:56]  * Squirm wonders what it's worth trying to attach his phone to his quadcopter and flying it via the live stream...
[10:56] <Kilos> eish
[10:56] <Kilos> fones are expensive
[11:04] <magespawn> Squirm: i was wondering if the added cost is justified with added speed?
[11:06] <magespawn> to bond say 4 * 4 mb lines?
[11:10] <magespawn> might actually be cheaper to go another route
[11:21] <Squirm> you basically pay for 4 lines
[11:21] <Squirm> and the modem
[11:22] <Squirm> and your lines sync at the speed of the slowest line. so if one of your lines sync at say 3meg, they all sync at 3meg
[11:22] <Squirm> I don't know the exact cost though
[11:24] <magespawn> ty will have to look into then
[11:24] <magespawn> home time later all
[11:27] <Squirm> bbl too
[12:16] <Squirm> so what's everyone up to this lovely Saturday afternoon?
[13:51] <not_found> o/
[14:19] <Kilos> hi not_found 
[14:20] <not_found> uncle Kilos, how are you (except cold)?
[14:20] <Kilos> lol good ty lad , and you?
[14:24] <not_found> always good thanks :)
[14:24] <not_found> the wife, daughter and I are all doing karate now :p
[14:24] <Kilos> great
[14:24] <Kilos> do they do karate in ahab lands
[14:24] <not_found> the daughter is going for her first grading (for yellow belt) and she has only been doing this for a month now :)
[14:25] <not_found> sure, it is a sport after all :)
[14:25] <Kilos> thought they did date throwing
[14:25] <not_found> camel tossing
[14:25] <Kilos> lol
[14:25] <Kilos> what style 
[14:25] <not_found> the arabs have a wide interest but really like football the most
[14:26] <not_found> one of nuvolari's hero's with the helicopters is from the UAE
[14:26] <not_found> style of karate? Shotokan...
[14:26] <Kilos> lol
[14:26] <Kilos> aha
[14:27] <not_found> when I was a wee lad I went up to green belt in Goju-kai... now I am a little white belt struggling to do an hours excercise :p
[14:27] <Kilos> great that the family is all doing it
[14:27] <Kilos> lol
[14:27] <not_found> I was dragged kicking and screaming :p
[14:31] <Kilos> is the sensei and arab?
[14:33] <kbmonkey> hi Kilos 
[14:33] <kbmonkey> hi not_found 
[14:33] <not_found> Kilos: nope, indian
[14:33] <Kilos> yo kbmonkey 
[14:33] <not_found> hiya kbmonkey :)
[14:33] <Kilos> ah
[14:35] <not_found> just read this http://science.slashdot.org/story/13/07/20/1311204/muon-neutrino-to-electron-neutrino-oscillation-conclusively-shown and now my brain hurts >.<
[14:37] <Cantide> ahhhhhh
[14:37] <Cantide> http://phandroid.com/2013/07/19/ubuntu-edge-smartphone-leak/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
[14:37] <Cantide> i wonder how true this is :)
[14:39] <not_found> been speculating about this yesterday when I saw the post on the planet...
[14:39] <not_found> if it is true it is looking good!
[14:40] <not_found> some more light reading :p http://test.ubuntu-discourse.org/t/countdown-gone/596
[14:40]  * Cantide clicks
[14:40] <Cantide> it needs a bit less bezel though :/
[14:46] <not_found> I guess it all depends on the specs etc... but I suspect the edge swiping is easier with some bezel as opposed to the full screen of some newer phones
[14:47] <Cantide> yeah, good point
[14:48] <Cantide> still, about half that on the top and bottom would be nice :)
[14:48] <Squirm> Cantide: it's like the S3 though
[14:49] <Squirm> looks like the same amount on the top and the sides
[14:49] <Cantide> hmm
[14:49] <Cantide> true that..
[14:49] <Cantide> the S3 just hides it better :p
[14:49] <Squirm> yes
[14:49] <Squirm> I think the rounded corners hide it more
[14:50] <not_found> always difficult to judge from pictures IMO
[14:50] <Squirm> and there is the front camera, led and proximity sensor in front
[14:50] <Squirm> so it's kind of broken up
[14:50] <Cantide> yup
[14:50] <Cantide> and used
[14:50] <Cantide> seems to have a purpose at least
[14:50] <Cantide> but empty bezel looks like wasted space
[14:50] <Cantide> just imho :p
[14:50] <Squirm> reminds me of the HTC
[14:50] <Cantide> yeah
[14:50]  * Squirm still waits for Ubuntu Touch for his S3
[14:50] <Squirm> :/
[14:51] <not_found> everything is working now for S3 except making calls :p
[14:51] <not_found> the gsm side of things broken
[14:51] <Squirm> On the Ubuntu website I also saw the hardware volume control is not working
[14:52] <not_found> ah not sure about that... was looking at a ROM that is on xda-devs...
[14:52] <Cantide> heh
[14:52] <Squirm> Both cameras work properly, as well as the flashlight. No video recording
[14:52] <Cantide> anything for the S4 yet?
[14:52] <Squirm> not_found: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/i9300
[14:52] <not_found> I am pretty sure that the info and stuff on xda will be more up to date
[14:52] <Squirm> Cantide: nothing here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[14:53]  * not_found @ work so can't go there now
[14:53] <Squirm> not_found: probably
[14:53] <not_found> it is in the i9300 sub forum someplace
[14:54] <Squirm> http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2068
[14:56] <Squirm> looks good though
[14:56] <not_found> sri lanka is smacking the proteas around today :(
[14:56] <Cantide> this is why i watch rugby instead >_>
[14:57] <not_found> ah yes, sri lanka suck at rugby
[14:57] <not_found> then again the proteas too
[14:57] <Cantide> <_<
[14:58] <not_found> ^_^
[14:58] <Kilos> lol
[15:06] <not_found> really stoked to see Valve put their money where their mouths are and supporting Linux so much thus far :) - I will be playing a lot of Dota 2 just to show support (oh and it is an awesome game)
[15:09] <Cantide> i bought a humble bundle and play the games on steam
[15:09] <Cantide> compiz crashes now and then though -.-
[15:12] <not_found> yup, I also got steam codes for all the humble games...
[15:20] <not_found> another awesome game is awesomenauts :D
[15:21] <Cantide> oh!
[15:21] <Cantide> i play Awesomenauts a lot >_>
[15:28] <not_found> we should play one day Cantide ... I have only played vs AI so far so I have much to learn
[15:28] <Cantide> oh..
[15:28] <Cantide> yeah, i started like that
[15:28] <Cantide> and then against hoomans
[15:28] <Cantide> and the other day i tried AI again... just not the same :p
[15:29] <not_found> yup... need to make the jump vs real I and not AI :p
[15:32] <Cantide> :p
[15:32] <Cantide> do iiiiit
[15:32] <Cantide> the game puts you into level categories
[15:32] <Cantide> so you will play against people of similar skill
[15:34] <Squirm> not_found: is Dota 2 out on Linux??
[15:34] <Cantide> i believe so, yes
[15:34] <not_found> yup
[15:34] <Squirm> hmm, maybe I'll start playing
[15:34] <not_found> was in beta for a week and now out for last two days
[15:34] <Cantide> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/07/dota-2-now-available-on-steam-for-linux?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG!+Ubuntu!%29
[15:34] <Squirm> tend to get over it quite quickly though
[15:34] <not_found> I installed it a few hours ago and works great
[15:34] <Squirm> hmm
[15:35] <Squirm> big download though
[15:35] <not_found> Squirm: Clan-ZA
[15:35] <Squirm> so may have to wait till tomorrow
[15:35] <not_found> yup... it is big
[15:35] <Squirm> not_found: I'm useless
[15:35] <not_found> join the club :D
[15:35] <Squirm> I used to play, few years back. but things change a lot, then they hit Dota 2 and things CHANGED
[15:35] <not_found> I am also still on AI opponents in Dota... lots of time to learn
[15:35] <not_found> loved the original
[15:36] <Squirm> I enjoyed Dota 2 though
[15:36] <Squirm> just need to learn everything again. A lot of recipes have changed :/
[15:39] <not_found> just about everything is different (except the concept)
[15:40] <not_found> need to send a mail on the mailing list and see if we can get 10 guys together to play a bit :) (or at least 5)
[15:40] <Squirm> yeah, I'll let you know when I've tried it out
[15:41] <Squirm> I have a whole pile of invites if anyone needs
[15:42] <not_found> not needed anymore... game is officially released
[15:42] <not_found> I also had something like 15 of them...
[15:50] <Squirm> cool
[15:52] <not_found> watched a game that was being played live from the interface and because some of the players had custom HUD's and announcers I had access to them for the duration of the time I was watching.... was awesome to have to announcer be from the game Bastion :D
[15:54] <not_found> oh and if anyone here is a mechwarrior fan google mechwarrior tactics...
[15:57] <Cantide> titanfall looks good :)
[15:59] <not_found> haven't heard of it yet (will check it out when possible)
[16:00] <not_found> nice thing of mechwarrior tactics is it is using unity in a browser to it *should* work in Linux (I haven't tried yet but will soon)
[16:04] <Squirm> I played Mechwarrior who knows how long ago
[16:05] <not_found> well this is based on the figurines and is a turn based strategy game...
[16:06] <Squirm> hmm
[16:06] <not_found> for a laugh search youtube for mechwarrior tactics total biscuit vs angry joe :)
[16:06] <not_found> gives a good indication of the game
[16:34] <inetpro> good evening
[16:34] <not_found> inetpro: alo
[16:34] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[16:35] <inetpro> ehlo not_found, Kilos
[16:35] <inetpro> what's happening in here today?
[16:35] <not_found> waffles
[16:35] <Kilos> min
[16:35] <inetpro> not_found: ooh nice
[16:36] <not_found> :)
[16:36]  * inetpro very hungry now
[16:36] <not_found> lol
[16:37] <inetpro> and even feels like I need some extra waffles today after doing a bit of plumbing in the house
[16:38] <not_found> everything is better with waffles
[16:38] <inetpro> had to replace a +40 year old leaking stop valve in the roof
[16:39] <not_found> nice it lasted that long
[16:40] <inetpro> yep, and I hope the new one will last as long as well
[16:41] <not_found> dunno, they don't make stop valves like they used too :p
[16:41] <inetpro> quite a mission to replace without proper tools
[16:41] <inetpro> not something I do everyday
[16:42] <not_found> I guess not
[16:42] <Kilos> top valve?
[16:42] <inetpro> at least all is sorted again 
[16:42] <Kilos> that pressure thing above a geyser?
[16:43] <inetpro> Kilos: yep one of those taps by the geyser
[16:43] <Kilos> ah
[16:43] <Kilos> well done
[16:43] <Kilos> jack of all trades
[16:43]  * not_found doesn't know a top valve from a stop valve
[16:43]  * not_found did see a geyser once
[16:44] <inetpro> damn thing started dripping when I had to close and open the valve a few days ago 
[16:46] <inetpro> been running up and down on a daily basis to make sure the bucket didn't fill up
[16:47] <not_found> :)
[16:47] <Kilos> ai!
[16:49] <inetpro> superfly: Happy Birthday sir! 
[16:50] <Kilos> oh my, every thing of the best superfly 
[16:50] <not_found> ah yes...
[16:51] <not_found> best for the day and the year superfly :)
[16:51] <not_found> where is the cake?!
[16:52] <Kilos> hmm... coffee and cake could be good
[16:53] <inetpro> Kilos: do you perhaps know a glue or silicon that I can use to fix the inside of an old tap? Have this tap with a small ridge inside causing a small leak which the rubber is not closing properly
[16:53] <Cantide> superflyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy~ happy birthday :)
[16:54] <Kilos> some times you can make a tool you push down in there and chew the ridge even again
[16:54] <inetpro> if I turn it hard enough it stops leaking but the kids can't close it properly
[16:54] <Kilos> try just reface the ridge
[16:55] <inetpro> and to replace the tap I would have to break the washbasin
[16:55] <Kilos> eish
[16:55] <inetpro> very difficult to get in there
[16:56] <Kilos> oh ya you need a kinda bobbejaan with a swivel neck
[16:56] <inetpro> refacing the ridge sounds like what I need to do, but how?
[16:56] <Kilos> so you can work from under it
[16:57] <Kilos> i once ground a big drill bit to fit in the hole with a shoulder to trim the edge
[17:00]  * inetpro wbb
[17:01] <Kilos> also maybe one of those boring tools for making big holes in trees with the adjustable cutting edge
[17:01] <Kilos> ai!
[17:05] <Kilos> or even gringing stone you fit in the front of a drill
[17:05] <Kilos> with a flat base
[17:06] <Kilos> grinding
[17:10] <Squirm> inetpro: you can replace the washer
[17:10] <Squirm> the little rubber piece in the tap
[17:11] <Kilos> oh ya but sometimes there is a tiny groove in the ridge Squirm 
[17:11] <Kilos> actually weird but water wears it away if there is a slow lek
[17:39] <inetpro> Squirm: https://plus.google.com/114254397525521567468/posts/KGiTAGuRPQJ
[17:40] <inetpro> I replaced the rubber
[17:41] <Kilos> inetpro, is there a tiny dip or groove in the ridge?
[17:41] <inetpro> Kilos: you can see it clearly in that fhoto
[17:42] <Kilos> i cant man
[17:42] <Kilos> just some darker patches
[17:43] <inetpro> hmm... where are you looking?
[17:44] <Kilos> lol everywhere
[17:44] <inetpro> look on the inside ring, there's a brownish gap at about 00:02
[17:45] <inetpro> or perhaps even 00:01 until almost 00.05
[17:47] <Kilos> those darker patches?
[17:47] <Kilos> where is the thread you screw the tap down with
[17:48] <inetpro> Kilos: no this is looking from above with the tap removed
[17:49] <inetpro> the tap get's screwed on there
[17:49] <Kilos> so the inside ring is where the seal surface is
[17:50] <inetpro> yebo yes
[17:50] <Kilos> how deap is it worn away?
[17:50] <Kilos> deep
[17:50] <inetpro> the rubber should be flush on top of that inside ring
[17:51] <inetpro> if I turn the tap hard it closes properly
[17:51] <inetpro> at least 1mm
[17:51] <Kilos> so that ridge that seals is not smooth and level?
[17:52] <inetpro> yep
[17:52] <Kilos> ok
[17:52] <inetpro> but you gave me a good idea
[17:52] <Kilos> how big is the centre whole
[17:53] <inetpro> should be able to grind it smooth
[17:53] <inetpro> eish, didn't measure
[17:53] <inetpro> need to find something that will fit in there
[17:54] <Kilos> ya but you must have a centre piece to hole the tool straight up
[17:54] <Kilos> yes
[17:54] <Kilos> listen now
[17:54] <Kilos> i wish i knew how to draw on the pc
[17:55] <Kilos> you get a wooden rod bigger than the hole
[17:55] <Kilos> then make the first bit the size of the hole
[17:55] <Kilos> then put sandpaper on the shoulder and spin it in the whole
[17:56] <Kilos> you get the idea
[17:56] <Kilos> ??
[17:56] <inetpro> ahh
[17:57] <inetpro> the outside of the tap is about 30mm
[17:57] <Kilos> another idea
[17:57] <Kilos> where the seal goes on
[17:58] <Kilos> put sandpaper in place of the seal and try it that way
[18:01] <Kilos> or make the wooden tool so it comes through the top of the tap to centralise it
[18:06] <inetpro> that inside ring is between 15 - 18mm
[18:10] <Kilos> do you get the idea though inetpro ?
[18:10] <inetpro> need something like this: http://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_17497.jpg
[18:11] <Kilos> hi Dreen 
[18:11] <Dreen> Hi
[18:11] <Kilos> no inetpro those sand on the outside
[18:11] <inetpro> ahh
[18:12] <Kilos> is there a thing like paint in ubuntu
[18:12] <Kilos> then ill try draw something
[18:13] <not_found> inkscape
[18:13] <inetpro> Kilos: and this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3Pk-Pack-Silverline-Circular-Grinding-Wheel-Set-9Mm-10Mm-15Mm-Heavy-Duty-Tools-/400484602474
[18:13] <inetpro> ?
[18:14] <not_found> also I think there is something called tuxpaint but I never used it
[18:14] <Kilos> yeah inetpro you just have to make sure its 100% upright all the time
[18:15] <inetpro> hmm... sounds tricky
[18:16] <Kilos> well if you wobble you dont have it the same depth all the wat around
[18:17] <inetpro> true
[18:18] <Kilos> if you can get one of those stones with a shaft that just fits through the top of the tap that will hold it steady
[18:21] <inetpro> thanks Kilos, will see whether I can find a tool during the week so I try fix it next weekend
[18:21] <Kilos> ok
[18:21] <Kilos> good luck
[18:21] <Kilos> hi charl 
[18:21] <charl> hi Kilos :)
[18:21] <charl> what's up
[18:22] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[18:22]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[18:22] <Kilos> ty not_found dunno how peeps draw straight lines though
[18:22] <Kilos> not much charl 
[18:22] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[18:22] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto
[18:23] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee please
[18:23] <Maaz> inetpro: Okay
[18:24] <Kilos> inkscape too sensitive to draw with
[18:24] <not_found> it should have a line tool...
[18:24] <not_found> oh well :)
[18:25] <Kilos> all those things take practise to get to know not_found 
[18:25] <not_found> yup
[18:26] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl, Kilos and inetpro!
[18:26] <Kilos> Maaz, dankie
[18:26] <Maaz> Groot plesier Kilos my vriend
[18:26] <inetpro> Maaz: ty
[18:26] <Maaz> You are welcome inetpro
[18:27] <Kilos> inetpro, we must still try get maaz's data base
[18:27] <Kilos> i wann try make QA know everything maaz does
[18:27] <Kilos> hard work teaching another bot
[18:28] <inetpro> Kilos: you'll have to ask cocooncrash 
[18:29] <inetpro> not sure whether he would be willing to share that
[18:29] <inetpro> he may be using the bot in other channels as well
[18:29] <Kilos> ah
[18:34] <inetpro> Kilos: and I should have posted this thing on G+ earlier
[18:35] <Kilos> have you had more advice?
[18:35] <Kilos> hehe
[18:35] <inetpro> Charlie Kravetz says, "Go to hardware store. Buy tap facing or surfacing tool. It looks like a stem with a large, rough washer on bottom. Use it to smooth the seat inside the tap.﻿"
[18:35] <Kilos> maybe there are modern ways of doing such things
[18:36] <Kilos> oh my
[18:36] <Kilos> look on ebay
[18:36] <not_found> :)
[18:36] <Kilos> or olx
[18:37] <Kilos> whew they now ready make things i had to work out the hard way 30 years ago
[18:37] <Kilos> swines they should let you all sukkel too
[18:39] <inetpro> :-)
[18:39] <inetpro> Kilos: see http://goannaplumbing.com.au/news/changing-a-jumper-valve-or-tap-washer-servicing-a-tap/
[18:40] <inetpro> some very good advice there
[18:41] <Kilos> you okes need the advice man , im old now
[18:42]  * inetpro just sharing the interesting things I find 
[18:43] <Kilos> ty
[18:43] <Kilos> tuxpaint aint as sensitive but 51m download
[18:43] <not_found> wow
[18:43] <Kilos> and makes noises as you draw
[18:43] <Kilos> hehe
[18:44] <inetpro> just don't think I will find these fancy tools here 
[18:44] <not_found> since getting uncapped net I never see how big something is, only how long it will take :)
[18:44] <Kilos> yeah uncapped rocks
[18:46] <Kilos> hehe tuxpaint very lekker
[18:47] <Kilos> talks to you as well
[18:47] <inetpro> what happened with the announcement on ubuntu.com ?
[18:47] <inetpro> or the upcoming announcement?
[18:48] <not_found> http://test.ubuntu-discourse.org/t/countdown-gone/596/16
[18:49] <not_found> I asked the same question...
[18:49] <Kilos> i think they said something about juju here earlier
[18:49] <Kilos> ah
[18:49] <Kilos> juju is voodoo
[18:50] <inetpro> not_found: maybe they got a bit of a shock after seeing Microsoft loosing $34 billion market value in one day?
[18:50] <not_found> lol... have to have that much to loose it
[18:51] <inetpro> well why did they use the word surface in there?
[18:55] <not_found> have you seen the pics of the phone?
[18:56] <Kilos> night guys i go sleep now
[18:56] <Kilos> sleep tight all
[18:57] <inetpro> not_found: I'll believe it when it happens
[18:57] <inetpro> and only then I might get excited
[18:58] <not_found> true... canonical is famous for vapourware
[19:01] <inetpro> will definitely be very interesting if they do launch it
[19:03] <inetpro> it's a very tough market out there
[19:05] <not_found> well they are putting all the eggs in one basket so I really hope so
[19:42] <inetpro> Maaz: tell kilos I found another very interesting story at http://shufti247.blogspot.com/2009/08/dripping-taps.html
[19:42] <Maaz> inetpro: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[21:02] <kbmonkey> what's up
[21:32] <Squirm> kbmonkey: ceiling mainly
[21:33] <kbmonkey> true that Squirm 
[21:34] <kbmonkey> "gotta get up to get down"
[21:34]  * Squirm looks blankly at kbmonkey