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wilee-nileelocalh0st, one way. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Exploring_the_Repositories00:00
kickit2well i figured out how to trim the size of the mirror clone down to 40gb.. and from what I read after that it will just get changes.. so I guess I'll just let this do its thing and see how this goes00:00
localh0stkostkon: thanks  wilee-nilee yeah, but it's messy00:02
localh0sti can't see almost all of ppa keys but my system is still downloading it..00:03
wilee-nileelocalh0st, Huh?00:04
localh0stfor example i've got xorg server installed for quantal but.. i've made upgrade to raring00:04
wilee-nileelocalh0st, Your, uh, I will call it an explanation is convoluted.00:05
FiremanEdWhat's the correct channel name for ubuntu-offtopic, #???00:05
localh0sti don't know how to handle it wilee-nilee http://i.imgur.com/1WojNuF.jpg00:05
m-a-d-r-a-k-ealguien haba espanol00:05
wilee-nilee!es00:05
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.00:05
localh0stwilee-nilee: please, take a look at the version of package00:05
wilee-nileelocalh0st, I doubt I can.00:06
wilee-nileehelp00:06
localh0stwilee-nilee: "wersja" ends with quantal so it means it's not up to date, not for my ubuntu version00:07
localh0stand this is it's policy: http://pastebin.com/1fmH9MSv00:08
wilee-nilee!details | localh0st00:08
ubottulocalh0st: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."00:08
wilee-nileeI can't sift through your information as it is.00:09
localh0stwilee-nilee: Im the guy who had the problems while installing synaptics drivers and problems with dependencies. we tolked here some hours ago :P00:09
cuddylierAnyone know why a TCP IP redirect I have setup says 'End of stream' in the minecraft client and then connects fine and then does it again?00:10
wilee-nileelocalh0st, If I could even remember my own name we might have a chance. ;)00:10
localh0stwilee-nilee: I understand you :)00:10
wilee-nileelocalh0st, I'm not your best help here, I can go through our sources if that helps, that seems to be the crux, if you have PPA's make sure they are raring and are offering updates for raring.00:11
localh0stwilee-nilee: but I don't know where to start, it became more difficult nowadays, I used Linux 8 years ago and it was easier, really, now I'm afraid of these drivers with no configuration files :D00:17
localh0stwilee-nilee: it's all I know: http://pastebin.com/D0UW4K3j00:17
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tux1000thanks wilee-nilee, but not can install in my ubuntu 13.4, I have that tarry to it is released (ultrastar deluxe)00:21
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aguitel_how to watch netflix in ubuntu ?00:23
OerHeks!netflix00:24
ubottuIf you use Netflix, there is an unofficial solution for using it in Ubuntu detailed in http://www.compholio.com/netflix-desktop/ - bug reports in https://bugs.launchpad.net/netflix-desktop00:24
martin_hello I need help in ubuntu 12.0400:24
reisiomartin_: hi00:25
martin_I installed Ubuntu 12.04 and the speakers don't work. Before I had 13.04 without problems about sounds.00:25
martin_I re install ubuntu 12.04 and update, and also no sound, only by headphones. Also I tried by Ubuntu Live and doesn't work.00:25
martin_I tried alsamixer, and the sound it's high. and looks like no problem all the configuration, but not are sound by speakers.00:25
reisiomartin_: you downgraded from 13.04 to 12.04?00:25
martin_ I tried editing /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf with options snd-hda-intel model=auto and not. It's strange that also in live cd and re installing ubuntu still not working.00:26
martin_Yes, I downgraded, but erasing all, and installing 12.04 from 000:26
reisiomartin_: why'd you do that00:27
martin_from USB00:27
martin_because with 13.04 my computer reboot all time00:27
peyamHi00:28
reisiohi peyam00:28
martin_hi00:28
reisiohi00:28
peyamIm running a thinkpad mechin and the temperature is not optimized..00:28
semitones_teahallo peeps. I'm trying to mount a tmpfs but I don't understand the different modes. For example, mount -t tmpfs -o size=500M,mode=0744 tmpfs makes it so only root can change it, but it is accessible by everyone. What are the other modes?00:28
peyamfeels like it gets warm pretty fast00:28
martin_I will try now if work the sound form 13.04 live USB :S00:29
tsimpson!chmod | semitones_tea00:29
ubottusemitones_tea: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions00:29
martin_i cant understan how cant work re installing all the SO00:29
reisiopeyam: compared to what?00:29
peyamreisio, what do you mean?00:30
peyamreisio, it is a intel processor and sometimes it goes up to 7000:30
reisiopeyam: warm laptops is not particularly abnormal00:30
peyamreisio, 70 for a intel is always high00:30
semitones_teathankyou tsimpson00:31
martin_sorry, do you know a channel to ask about problems in ubuntu 12.04 LTS?00:31
peyamDo you know a better power manager for XFCE excapt gnome power manager00:32
peyammartin_, well ubuntu is ubuntu.. what is the issue?00:32
reisiomartin_: here00:32
reisiopeyam: Xfce has its own power manager00:32
peyamreisio, im not so happy with it :)00:33
reisiopeyam: how so?00:33
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peyamreisio, it doesnt give the optimal energy modes for my hardware comparing to the factory's power manager00:33
martin_peyam:00:33
martin_I installed Ubuntu 12.04 and the speakers don't work. Before I had 13.04 without problems about sounds.00:33
martin_I re install ubuntu 12.04 and update, and also no sound, only by headphones. Also I tried by Ubuntu Live and doesn't work.00:33
martin_I tried alsamixer, and the sound it's high. and looks like no problem all the configuration, but not are sound by speakers.00:33
FloodBot1martin_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:33
peyammartin_, is it a 64 or the 32?00:34
martin_3200:34
peyamhmm. have you tried pulseaudio?00:34
peyammartin_, have you updated the distro?00:35
martin_yes, killing and re installing00:35
Ilyahello00:35
martin_but also before install 12.04 from live USB sounds not work by speakers :S00:35
peyamokej. what is the specifications?00:36
Ilyadoes anyone know, will ubuntu touch works on Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9 ?00:37
wilee-nileeIlya, #ubuntu-touch is your place00:39
Ilyawilee-nilee,thanks00:39
wilee-nileeno prob00:39
martin_Yes, I format all the SO and re installing again00:40
peyammartin_, have you looked if you chosen the speaker as default output devices?00:40
martin_peyam How can I look that?00:40
peyammartin_, I use pulseaudio. but you go to pulseaudio and see the ourputs and choose it as default00:41
jonah_does anyone have experience with the HP pavillion sleekbook 15 using ubuntu on it?00:41
peyammartin_, your choose the "Outputs devices" and choose the speaker as default , there is a green icon on the right side00:42
jonah_mine has an AMD proccessor and everytime i enable its driver the system fails.00:42
peyamjonah_, enable what?00:43
jonah_the AMD graphics driver00:43
peyamjonah_, graphic? use the opensource one00:43
jonah_i have tried.. it never worked00:44
jonah_it was insanely slow to the point of it being unusable00:44
peyamjonah_, did you download the driver?00:44
martin_peyam, yes in sounds configuration I see speakers device and headphones device, looks like no problem but no sound from speakers00:44
jonah_no i used the one in the additional drivers00:44
peyammartin_, send a picture.. and ofcourse look at configurations as well00:45
peyamjonah_, and you restard the computer?00:46
Kitt3njonah_, if your card is supported try the AMD Linux drivers from amd.com00:46
semitonestsimpson: if I created a tmpfs directory with mode 744, which should be readable by everyone, why doesn't ls have permission to read it?00:46
tsimpsonsemitones: it can also depend on the permission of the directory that contains it00:47
jonah_yes i restarted00:47
trismsemitones: you need x, 4 is only r00:47
martin_How can I take a picture?00:48
peyamjonah_, strange..00:48
semitonestrism: ls needs x?00:48
Taekmartin_: prtsrn00:48
tsimpsonsemitones: directories needs the x bit set in order to be able to "search" in it00:48
peyammartin_, o.O00:48
semitonestsimpson: oh ok. Is there a way of changing the permissions without umount/mount again00:49
tsimpsonsemitones: the chmod command00:49
semitonestsimpson: ok i'll try00:49
semitonesso sounds like I want the directory to be 77700:50
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Taeksemitones: depends on who the folder belongs too00:50
jonah_its an AMD a6 4455m with Radeon (tm) graphics HD00:50
bekkssemitones: accessing a directory requires "x", so directories should always have r+x=5 at least00:50
semitonesTaek: hmm, it is the /var/lib/quassel folder00:50
Taekand you just want to browse in it semitones ?00:51
bekkssemitones: Most likely, you do not want a directory to have 777, but you want to change user/group instead.00:51
Taekbekks: because of what dir it is, I wouldn't change owner00:51
semitonesTaek: yeah, and before, I had to use sudo to read or write the files in it. I should have looked at what the permissions were beforehand.00:52
liquidstonea00:52
semitonesso sounds like I want 74500:52
Taeksemitones: are you just wanting to browse? if so are you using desktop?00:52
bekkssemitones: Nope.00:52
bekkssemitones: You want 755 (rwx=rwx for owner, 5=rx for group and maybe 5=rx for all the others)00:53
semitonesI'm using bash, this is on a headless 'server'. I want to be able to read the files so I can have a cron job copy them to disk00:53
Taeksemitones: in that case, use sudo -l root00:53
quuxmandoes anybody know XKB config?00:54
Taekand type in your sudo password, you'll be root until you you exdit00:54
TaekIf it's a cronjob you are trying to do, you can setup cronjobs as root.. not recommended but you can00:54
semitoneswell, I don't see a problem changing the read permissions to allow a userlevel cron job00:55
semitonesit isn't sensitive material or anything -- just my irc stuff00:55
TaekAre you the only person with access to the headless machine semitones  ?00:55
semitoneswell i live with a roommate but I don't think he knows linux00:56
Taekthere's a reason why that dir isn't user level accessible00:56
semitonesI think it's because quassel is run as a root level service00:56
Taekthen you don'yt want to change permissions00:56
semitonesso I guess I'll just make a root cron job00:57
semitonesto copy it to disk every minute or so00:57
Taekif you know the script you are going to use for cronjobs, and it's good and safe enough for you, just set it up as root00:57
rypervenchesemitones: sudo chmod 755 /path/to/directory/00:57
semitonesI was just going to do "cp /here /there00:58
semitones:00:58
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semitonesrypervenche: thanks00:58
rypervenchesemitones: 755 is the default permissions for a directory.00:58
TaekI never mess with files outside of /home, /opt, /var/www unless I need to change a config file in etc00:58
TaekI wonder what the proper pronounciation for /etc.. is it Etsee?00:59
rypervencheThat's what I say now. :/00:59
rypervencheI don't like it, but it's fast and my work used to use it.00:59
bekksTaek: "et cetera"01:00
semitonesTaek: i didn't want to mess with these, it's just my disk is very slow, and there were many little database writes, so I mounted a tmpfs on the directory the database lives in01:00
TaekI thought so bekks01:00
rypervenchesemitones: So your database is only in RAM nonw?01:00
rypervenchenow*01:00
semitonesrypervenche: yes, it could go at any second01:00
rypervenchesmart..01:00
semitonesrypervenche: that's why I'm going to make a cron job to copy it every minute or so, which is better than every second or so01:01
semitones"sudo crontab"01:01
rypervencheSounds like more read/write, lol.01:01
Taeksemitones: if you mounted it, as read only, you shouldn't have a problem, but if you need to delete the files, you can re-mount it as read/write temporarily01:01
semitonesthe database needs to be read/write always, or else I could do that01:02
semitonesrypervenche: it is more r/w, but less often.01:02
Taekis there a specific folder for just the database files?01:02
lorddeltahello? My X server has hung; any clues how to restart it?01:02
semitonesTaek: there is only one database file, and it lives in that /var/lib/quassel folder01:02
Taekyou can chmod 755 for that single file.01:02
Taekinstead of the whole foldwer01:03
semitonesi think the folder is supposed to be 755 anyhow. most folders are that way01:03
Taekif that doesn't work, chmod 77701:03
Taeksemitones: if it was installed that way, then it should be that way :D01:03
rypervenchePeople need to stop 777ing...01:04
Taeksemitones: I assume youi used apt-get to install it?01:04
semitonesyup!01:04
Taeksemitones: then it's the way it should be01:04
semitonesrypervenche: lol :)01:04
cliff777Hello, I'm having trouble booting ubuntu on my PC...I sometimes get the low graphics mode error, sometimes just a black screen. If it helps, I am using an AMD 7770 video card and the latest driver downloaded from amd.com01:04
Taekcliff777: Can you gain access to the desktop at all, if so try uninstalling the driver and using a different onwe01:05
semitoneswell sudo crontab didn't do anything. I guess I need to find out how to actually make root cronjobs rather than guess about it01:05
cliff777Taek: no, I have no access to the desktop at all...however I can access command line01:05
FoxyRK9Hello01:05
semitonesah it's sudo crontab -e01:06
TaekHmm not sure how one would remove a graphics card driver from the command line01:06
TaekNever had that issue before.01:06
semitonesTaek: you have to depmod or something01:06
Kitt3ncliff777, try the open source driver01:06
semitonesi forget. it's unloading a kernel module one way or another01:06
TaekKitt3n: he/she is asking how to uninstall the driver via command01:06
FoxyRK9I run 12.04 LTS x64 on my HP Pavillion Laptop and had to reinstall, now everytime I reinstall the OS it's slow, doesn't want to load or gives me a kernel panic.01:06
cliff777kitt3n, anyway I can uninstall the other driver and install the new one via command line?01:07
cliff777he ;)01:07
reisioFoxyRK9: reinstalling an OS is not usually a perfectly sensible course of action01:07
Kitt3ncliff777, the open source driver should overwrite the amd driver automatically01:07
Taekreisio: I do it all the time :D01:07
FoxyRK9well the OS gave me a kernel panic before and will not load01:07
Kitt3nreisio, except when the kernel stops working completely01:07
reisioTaek: makes you not perfectly sensible :p01:08
FoxyRK9I tried to use knoppix to recieve my data01:08
reisioKitt3n: even then it's rather a waste of time to reinstall01:08
cliff777kitt3n, how can I get the open-source driver? apt-get ?01:08
Kitt3nreisio, heh, once the kernel would just NOT boot, so I had to reinstall, like..3 times -.-01:08
Taekreisio: if the system doesn't boot, how else are you to use it?.01:08
Kitt3ncliff777, yes, use apt-get01:08
reisioTaek: by fixing it01:08
FoxyRK9Now its acting as before01:08
reisioyou can always fix it01:08
cliff777apt-get amd-driver?01:09
reisioand your older working kernel should remain regardless01:09
Kitt3ncliff777, actually, just try "sudo apt-get install fglrx"01:09
Taekreisio: not on a fresh install :D01:09
TaekNo older kernel available then.01:09
reisioTaek: on a fresh install, reinstalling is even less sensible, as it'd be doing the same thing over again01:09
cliff777kitt3n alright I will try that, and get back to you ;) thank you!01:10
Taekcliff777: Are you able to boot into recovery mode?01:10
semitonesOK so this is important. If I write a cron entry that's just all like */5 * * * * cp /var/lib/quassel/blah.sqlite ~/backup/, could that hose my system if something goes wrong?01:10
cliff777Taek, yes01:10
TaekOnce logged in, check the logs to see why the kernel is panicing01:10
Taekand then go from there01:10
Kitt3nAMD is a pain until you get it working ..01:10
rypervenchesemitones: Use full paths and not ~01:10
cliff777Yeah I've noticed....01:10
semitonesgood call01:10
cliff777kinda wishing I went with Nvidia now01:11
reisiosemitones: the most it could do is copy over a file named 'blah.sqlite' in ~/backup/01:11
Kitt3ncliff777, GOD no01:11
FoxyRK9The installer is past the tutorial now and is acting as it did the first time I installed ubuntu01:11
TaekI have AMD, no issues with drivers from AMD website01:11
Kitt3nMe too01:11
semitonesrypervenche: ok, well i'm ok with that01:11
alamihello, why i can't play wmv, i have mplayer smplayer vlc totem, and no one can open wmv for me01:11
rypervenchesemitones: Also use -f01:11
cliff777specifically what log should I check?01:11
reisiosemitones: add -n and the most it could do is copy a file there if one doesn't already exist01:11
rypervenchesemitones: And put > /dev/null 2>&1 at the end01:11
semitoneswhat is the 2>&1 part?01:11
Taekcliff777: dmesg perhaps?01:11
rypervenchesemitones: Makes stderr go into the output as well.01:12
FoxyRK9different question, On a different computer I have all my files. Music ad pictures01:12
cliff777Taek, and I would find that where?01:12
FoxyRK9is there a program like WMP that syncs all my muic automatically?01:12
Taekcliff777: almost always log files are in /var/log01:12
reisioFoxyRK9: syncs?01:12
FoxyRK9Synchronize01:12
reisioFoxyRK9: between what?01:12
cliff777thank you all I will try these and report back01:13
Taekcliff777: check dmsg and syslog01:13
FoxyRK9the Music library on my computer and the Mp3 player01:13
reisioFoxyRK9: yes, lots of apps do that01:13
reisioincluding one that comes with Ubuntu, IIRC01:13
FoxyRK9I tried rhythmbox drag and drop ut it only makes files on the MP3 I want them into folders01:13
thufirfrom simple xwindows, I'm using firefox.  how can I get to the menu for firefox?  Can't seem to click on them.01:13
alamihello, why i can't play wmv, i have mplayer smplayer vlc totem, and no one can open wmv for me01:14
reisio!restricted01:14
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:14
Taekalami: Have you installed the media codecs?01:14
wilee-nileealami, wmv is a container I believe and MS to boot I have seen few play, however you can convert them to a format that does. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wmv01:14
alamiTaek:do you mean w64codecs?01:14
FoxyRK9is there an off topic Ubuntu channel?01:15
Taekas reisio has reported - above01:15
reisioFoxyRK9: /msg alis list *ubuntu*01:15
wilee-nileeFoxyRK9, #ubuntu-offtopic01:15
semitonesrypervenche: ok, but if I want it to constantly overwrite the backup file with the newer version, I should have -f, not -n.01:15
rypervenchesemitones: That's what I typed.01:15
Taek-y -f --force-yes01:15
Taekis what I normally do :D01:15
thufiralso, just using xwindows, how can I move the windows around?01:16
semitonesthat is so many flags01:16
Taekbut always works semitones ;D01:16
semitoneswhy would I need -f though?01:16
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semitonesi'd rather it fail then mess something up01:16
rypervenchesemitones: Because otherwise it will ask you if you want to overwrite it and since this is a cronjob it won't work.01:16
semitonesoooh ok01:17
Taek-f install dependencies I beliefe01:17
rypervencheTaek: We're talking about cp.01:17
TaekOh.. thought it was for apt-get01:17
TaekMy fault01:17
semitonesrypervenche: so this is what I have: */2 * * * * cp -f /var/lib/quassel/quassel-storage.sqlite /home/pi/varcopy/lib/quassel/  > /dev/null 2>&1 and it should copy every 2 minutes this way01:19
rypervenchesemitones: Yep.01:20
rypervenchesemitones: It's still a very crappy work around. You should look into bettering your database writes.01:20
cuddylier_What is the best way to forward TCP traffic connecting to a server box to another IP?01:21
semitonesrypervenche: yeah... 2 minutes of lost database is pretty sketchy. I heard there is a better database than sqlite called 'postgresql,' but also that it might be too resource-intensive for my hardware01:21
rypervenchesemitones: Yes, I would use that myself. I was just messing with postgres today :) I'll help you if you like.01:22
Kitt3nThere's also MySQL01:22
rypervencheI'm not sure quassel has MySQL support or not. I don't have a USE flag for it in Gentoo.01:22
semitonesKitt3n: I think quassel works pretty well with postgres, I don't really know databases well01:22
Kitt3nNever used Postgres myself, only ever needed MySQL01:23
Taek^01:23
rypervenchePostgres is for winners :) I'll end it there though. This is for help, not chat.01:23
TaekMySQL all the way.01:23
reisioheh01:23
reisioMySQL is discontinued01:23
reisioand postgresql was always better anyways :p01:23
* rypervenche high fives reisio.01:23
reisiorypervenche: yes indeed01:23
Kitt3nI don't really care *rolls eyes*01:24
cliff777hello again01:24
reisiohello again right now01:24
reisioKitt3n: yeah but I don't really care more :p01:25
cliff777is the line in /var/log/dmesg   init: failsafe main process (874) killed by TERM signal   anything to worry about?01:25
TaekGenerally it just means something got killed01:25
Taekan app ended01:26
Taekclosed, shutdown due to restart.01:26
cliff777ok so nothing with graphics?01:26
farleyboa noite senhoresa01:26
farleysenhores01:26
Taekwell unless you know what the process was, no way to tell01:26
cliff777ok, and the last line of the log was about eth0 (ethernet) not ready01:26
Taekcliff777: that's normal on boot up.01:27
Taekmean it probably didn't get a DHCP lease from the router before it wanted it01:27
cliff777ok01:27
cuddylier_What is the best way to forward TCP traffic connecting to a server box on a specific IP to another IP?01:29
FoxyRK9no that was an old computer01:34
rypervenchecuddylier_: iptables01:35
cuddylierrypervenche Do you know of a good guide to do that?01:35
bazhangcuddylier, #netfilter01:37
cuddylierbazhang Do you know of a guide on how to use that to do what I want?01:38
rypervenchecuddylier: I don't know of one off hand, but we can help you out with the syntax. Do you know iptables at all?01:39
bazhangcuddylier, the channel I gave you knows a lot about iptables and the like. why not ask there01:39
cuddylierAhh01:39
cuddylierOkay01:39
sarthorUsing linux, laptop toshiba VGA "Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller", How to check if my VGA is working properly or not?01:42
sarthorduring moving any windows via mouse here and there, moment shows some jumps01:43
Jordan_Usarthor: What version of Ubuntu are you using?01:43
lorddeltaSo, any ideas?01:44
sarthorJordan_U: I hope you will not ask me for "ask in LM channel", I am using Linux Mint 15.01:44
Jordan_Usarthor: That is exactly what I will ask you to do. This channel is for Ubuntu support only.01:44
bazhang!mintsupport | sarthor01:44
ubottusarthor: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org01:44
sarthorOK. what is the Command in the latest release of ubuntu to check, Is my VGA is working proper or not?01:46
bazhangsarthor, ask for support in the MINT channel, NOT here01:46
sarthorbazhang: OK. But this time I asked about Ubuntu latest version. OK. Will ask there. Thanks.01:47
benbloomokay, I'm having a lot of trouble and google is no help and other irc's are no help and you guys have always been great to me: is there a way to disable NFS vers2 from nfs-kernel-server? I've got a problem with busybox mounting vers2 when it should try 3 or 4 first on my media player01:50
Jordan_Ubenbloom: What is your end goal? Is your root FS on NFS? On your media player?01:54
benbloomroot FS is on my server. My media player keeps mounting it as vers=2, but there's no way to force the media player to do vers=3 so I'm trying to disallow vers=2 from the server01:56
benbloomI just tried placing NFS_SERVER_VERSMIN=3 in nfs-kernel-server and restarting it01:57
benbloomno help there01:58
virtyxI have a USB wifi adapter (USB ID 0846:9011 according to lsusb) but it doesn't show up in ifconfig. I assume I need to load a module to get it to work, but I'm a bit of a noob and recent Windows convert so I don't actually know where to go from here. I can't seem to come up with a good Google query to get me in the right direction. I would appreciate any pointers!02:02
virtyxIs there like a big driver webpage or something? How can I figure out which thing to load for my... for my thing?02:04
th0rvirtyx, you might start with lspci | grep network. That might put you onto what network adapter you have. Once you know the chipset in the network adapter you can google that to see what module you need loaded.02:06
th0rvirtyx, you need an upper case there....lspci | grep Network02:07
benbloomputting NFS_SERVER_VERSMIN=3 in nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server doesn't actually force nfsd to use minimum vers of 3. Any ideas??02:07
virtyxThanks th0r, I did run that but it only lists a PCI wifi card I have and not the USB key I'm trying to setup02:08
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th0rvirtyx, I did a quick google on the id you posted, and it appears to belong to a bcm4323 chipset, which I think uses the b43 driver (http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=280977)02:10
th0r!broadcom02:11
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx02:11
virtyxth0r: Thanks a ton!02:13
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kairosCan someone help me figure out why I can get gnome terminal to be transparent, but not urxvt?02:15
Jordan_Ukairos: urxvt probably doesn't support transparency. Do you expect it to?02:16
Jordan_Ukairos: And now that I've said that, have you tried http://ctkarch.org/documentation/tutorials/tuto.php?page=urxvt-transpa.xml ? :)02:17
kairosJordan_U: Yes, it does. And yes, I have. If no were the answer to either of those, I wouldn't be here02:21
ntzrmtthihu777hello. I need a bit of in-depth help or a well-detailed guide on how flashplugin-installer, oracle-java7-instaler or the like actually works, as I'm looking to create a similar one for a certain .net program using wine. I can manually do it myself and know all the steps to use, but I'd like to create this for the sake of less technically endowed users.02:21
Jordan_Ukairos: What composite manager are you using? Could you pastebin your ~/.Xdefaults ?02:22
kairosWhatever Ubuntu 12.04 uses by default02:27
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matelothow to find out which DM I'm using (gnome,unity , unity2d...) ?02:28
wilee-nileematelot, What did you install, and what did you add?02:30
matelotwilee-nilee: long forgotten02:30
matelotjust want to know what I'm on right now, it's had to tell from login....same icons02:31
Jordan_Umatelot: I think you mean DE (Desktop Environment). You can tell by looking at the session drop down at the login screen (lightdm/GDM).02:31
matelotJordan_U: yes, but in the dropdown gnome has same icons...so can't tell, I know it's i;m using one of the gnomes02:32
matelotthis is 12.0402:33
wilee-nileematelot, can you run this to confirm the release  lsb_release -a02:33
wilee-nileeDoh 12.04 cool02:33
Jordan_Umatelot: I think you're misunderstanding, because the dropdown I'm talking about is a list of names of Sessions, not icons.02:33
kairosJordan_U: I got it working with xcompmgr02:34
matelotJordan_U: hmmm ok let me see02:34
marawan2ubuntu offtopic02:34
wilee-nilee#ubuntu-offtopic02:34
frankboardhellow everyone, i am a new user of 13.9402:35
kairosWould I want to start xcompmgr in .xinitrc or .xprofiles? Does it matter?02:37
drjeatsif the latest mactel support guide for installing on a macbookpro3,1 is for Maverick, in practice, will attempting to install Raring on one be a painful/impossible endeavor, or is it more that I'll have to troubleshoot or workaround a few extra driver issues?02:38
wilee-nilee!mac02:39
ubottuFor help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages02:39
wilee-nileedrjeats, ^^^^^^02:39
Kitt3nThe best idea is to never touch macs ever, they're designed to not work with anything not designed by Apple.02:40
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ntzrmtthihu777scratch that, I've gotten the info I need in general, but I remember there was some way to create a "blank" debian source package for a base package.02:40
ntzrmtthihu777<word that #ubuntu does not allow> macs!02:40
SonikkuAmericaKitt3n: Now who said it wasn't a good idea to try? We have amd64+mac images that work :)02:41
drjeatsim aware of both the community page (how else would I know the latest guide for my model?) and that Apple isn't friendly. was curious if anyone had first-hand experience to share02:41
ntzrmtthihu777Kitt3n: oh hey, tis you! how you doing?02:41
Kitt3nIt's a fight against the most greedy "computer" company that exists.02:42
Kitt3nntzrmtthihu777, I know it's off-topic (no one's talking anyway) I am good, good~02:42
SonikkuAmericaKitt3n: The fight has been successful with the introduction of the Ubuntu UEFI interfaces :)02:43
Jordan_Udrjeats: My recommendation would be to try the *non* +mac DVD image, as an actual DVD preferably, and see what works and what doesn't in the live session. If everything seems to work, then ignore most if not all of the Mac guides (last I checked there was a lot of bad advice in them unfortunately).02:44
Kitt3nSonikkuAmerica, Okay?02:44
kairosWould I want to start xcompmgr in .xinitrc or .xprofiles? Does it matter?02:45
SonikkuAmericaKitt3n: (Although my VBox EFI testing has produced an X server that has been brutally clobbered into mush.)02:45
drjeatsJordan_U: Exactly the sort of info I was hoping to hear. Thank you very much :)02:45
ntzrmtthihu777w00t! just passed 40k views!02:46
Jordan_Udrjeats: You're welcome.02:47
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frankboardjoin #linuxba02:52
wilee-nileedrjeats, Glad you got help, however I have never used an apple computer, nor do I know what is available, but knew the bot had info, and cannot read your mind, or where you have searched, if you want to convey info then do it.03:04
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drjeatswilee-nilee: ah, sorry for being prickly about it. I appreciate you thinking to point me toward the bot's info. no hard feelings?03:06
luckybunnyhey guys. I'm thinking of dusting off my old computer and using it again fairly soon. The thing is, I had my /home partition on a separate hard disk, that now resides (permanently) in my new computer. I don't want to take it out and use it in my old computer. I'm just wondering how my old computer will react to being woken up and not being able to find the familar sdb1 mounted at /home03:09
ntzrmtthihu777luckybunny: you could just remove it from the fstab, lol. and it will give an error message at plymouth for skipping mounting or manual recovery.03:10
luckybunnywill that cause problems, or will it just create a fresh, empty /home for itself?03:11
ntzrmtthihu777luckybunny: /home already exists, you just had the hdd mounted ontop of it.03:12
wilee-nileeluckybunny, You will have to clone the original and use it to run the OS on the old one or install a new OS.03:12
ntzrmtthihu777luckybunny: you may want to copy your .files in ~ from sdb1 to your main hdd, as these contain most of your per-user configuration files.03:13
wilee-nileeluckybunny, I have a feeling whatever is there is end of life possibly.03:15
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luckybunnyspeaking of plymouth... I might start from scratch with it, tbh. It's only for the sake of 2 weeks of having an extra machine, and the HDD issue, along with the fact that it's running Precise... probably quicker, easier and just as useful to just clean install Raring03:16
luckybunnyuh.. that's nothing to do with plymouth lol03:16
luckybunnythe 'speaking of plymouth' was about something else03:17
DuxHello, I am trying to get ubuntu installed alongside windows. I have the version I would like to install, but I do not remember how to get the files into my USB drive, I know I used a program from their website but I cant find it, anyone know what it is called?03:17
ntzrmtthihu777Dux: unetbootin, I bet.03:18
luckybunnyI have been having a mysterious lack of boot splash due to having messed with plymouth a long time ago. It worked, I tried to change the splash screen, and it has never worked since. Not even the default settings03:18
MichaelPwhats the channel for 13.10... in typing something wrong i think03:18
ntzrmtthihu777luckybunny: heh, I completely got rid of the xubuntu splash, I like seeing whats going on behind the scenes :P03:18
wilee-nileeMichaelP, #ubuntu+103:19
kellyhello guys , can i ask here about Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition03:19
wilee-nileeDux, Many use unetbootin, what is the windows release?03:19
MichaelPwilee-nilee: yep i was typing it in wrong... i was doing ubuntu-next03:19
Duxwin 7 64bit03:20
wilee-nileeMichaelP, Logical try.03:20
SonikkuAmericantzrmtthihu777: You like seeing the dmesg input fly across (really down) your screen? ")03:20
SonikkuAmerica* :)03:20
luckybunnyntzrmtthihu777: yes, that's about all i got working lol. For the longest time, I was just looking at a purple screen with plain text Ubuntu XX.XX... after realising there was almost no chance I'd get a splash screen back, I switched it out for none03:20
wilee-nileeDux, Cool, the new W8 setups are gpt uefi just making sure you basically okay for a regular install.03:20
luckybunnyso now I get all the info03:20
ntzrmtthihu777SonikkuAmerica: I love it :P03:22
ntzrmtthihu777SonikkuAmerica: only thing I would change is the text color, you know how?03:22
Jordan_Ukelly: If it's running Ubuntu you can ask Ubuntu support questions.03:22
DuxThank you guys.03:23
kellyJordan_U: i don't buy it until now , is there a new update from Dell XPS 13 Developer ?03:23
Jordan_Ukelly: This is #ubuntu, the support channel for the Ubuntu GNU/Linux distribution. While the computer you're asking about comes with Ubuntu, that doesn't make this channel Dell support. For questions about Dell's hardware offerings ask dell.03:27
moondogquestion: do you (anyone) think that lubuntu is more closely compatible with ubuntu than say linux mint?03:28
wilee-nileemoondog, Lubuntu is the ubuntu core with the lubuntu de mint is the ubuntu core with the mint de03:29
wilee-nileethere both basically ubuntu03:29
moondogI see... I was thinking Linux Mint had other differences besides just the DE03:29
ntzrmtthihu777moondog: they are like 99% the same, just like different ethnic groups :P03:30
wilee-nileemoondog, there is a debian mint though03:30
Jordan_Umoondog: It does. You misunderstood wilee-nilee's comment.03:30
wilee-nileeI was not real clear sorry about that.03:30
moondogs'ok03:30
Jordan_Umoondog: All of the official Ubuntu flavors use the same repositories, with the only difference being the default set of installed packages. Mint uses different repositories, and is not supported here because of that.03:31
moondogI realize the DE is different... but I would have thought lubuntu to be pretty much the same core... whereas linux mint would have more under the covers things different03:31
moondogah ok03:31
moondogcool03:31
moondogso it sounds like my assumptions were correct03:32
moondogI appreciate you answering in spite of the fact that it was a bit off-topic03:33
ntzrmtthihu777moondog: basic gist: if you want help in this channel, use {lu,xu,u}buntu :P03:33
ntzrmtthihu777*ku, thats what I forgot :P03:33
moondogntzrmtthihu777: more of a philosophical question :)03:34
rsvpwhen I write /dev/shm/foo.txt -- surprisingly it appears as /run/shm/foo.txt -- any ideas why this is happening??03:35
Dr_willisbecause theres a link from /run to /dev for the file  woul;d be my guess03:36
Dr_willistheres a movement to move stuff to /run/   i cant recall why03:36
Dr_willissomthing about being able to have / on a read only filesystem. and keep ./run/ somewhere else. (its to late at night for me to rember the details of ehre i saw that at)03:37
wilee-nileemoondog, Funny thing though with ubuntu and mint is mint does use some ubuntu repos I believe and cinnamon is in the ubuntu repos in 13.04, and there are PPA's that provide for both, it is bit of a funky situation for some users.03:38
Dr_willisi thought mint used all the ubuntu repos. and added their own. or do they just sort of clone the ubuntu repos and make changes, keeping their own mirrors?03:39
wilee-nileeDr_willis, I thought they used them, but have not seen a sources.list for mint, I would like to.03:39
moondoghmm, let me take a look03:40
Dr_willisI dont really use mint. ;) so never paid attention to it03:40
wilee-nileemoondog, If your running mint show us your cat /etc/apt/sources.list in a pastebin, spill it dude. ;)03:40
moondoglooks like a mix of ubuntu sources and linuxmint03:41
moondogok03:41
benbloomi cant get NFS version 3 working. I'm losing my mind with this!! nfs2 and nfs4 work. but no nfs3. can someone help?03:41
wilee-nileeDr_willis, I tried cinnamon a couple of days ago, having unity and the shell the install was like 3 packages very small, and not a bad desktop, I removed it though.03:42
kairosMy boot appears to have stuck at "Stopped Read required files in advance"03:42
devslashhas anyone here had experience with ssh'ing into ubuntu touch ?03:42
wilee-nileedevslash, I would ask in #ubuntu-touch maybe03:42
Dr_willisi would think you would install the ssh server, and ssh in as normal.03:43
orangerobotis there any way to find out what file in /dev corresponds to a pendrive I have plugged in?03:43
moondoghttp://pastebin.com/rNKWswJg03:43
wilee-nileethe touch needs a chroot to mess with it I believe03:43
moondognot used pastebin before03:43
moondoghopefully that worked03:43
wilee-nileemoondog, Thats great thanks yeah the ubuntu repos thar they be in a pirate voice03:44
benbloommoondog: there's a great program on apt called pastebinit you can just pipe directly to it and it gives you back a link03:45
Dr_willisorangerobot,  sudo blkid, sudo fdisk -l, or check dmesg output after plugging it in03:45
devslashwilee-nilee, there isnt anyone talking in that channel03:49
moondogI installed Linux Mint last week... my plan was to move to lubuntu this weekend... with the goal of better direct compatibility with ubuntu03:50
moondogjust because I'm anal that way03:50
Campfirehello my question is before ubuntu even starts whats that called03:50
wilee-nileedevslash, I noticed that, it was just a suggestion, I figured they would know maybe, during the day US it is more busy, just as info.03:50
Dr_willis'better direct compatibility'   Sounds like a marketing buzzword03:50
orangerobotDr_willis: thanks... blkid was very useful03:50
moondogyeah03:50
Dr_willisCampfire,   you mean the GRUB bootloader/menu?03:51
Campfireyeah maybe before that though03:51
Dr_willisthere really is nothing befor GRUB.. except the PC post screen/info03:51
Dr_willispower up -> post -> loads the MBR -> loads grub -> loads the os.03:52
devslashwilee-nilee, i am having trouble with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#SshAccess at the part where it says to do su - phablet it says unknown id03:52
CampfireDR_willis  ok grub boot loader it is03:53
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Campfiresomehow there are 3 oses to choose from there03:54
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Campfirebrb toilet03:54
Dr_willisCampfire,  thts its job. to let you select the os.03:54
Dr_willis!grub203:54
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub203:54
Campfireok i,m back03:57
Campfirety for so far help03:57
Campfireok so after bios splash screen you have the grub boot loader03:57
Campfirescreen then you can do cmd or load the os or do recovery if i,m correct03:58
Campfirepoint i,m i,m trying to learn the terminoligy and processes before the distro strats03:59
jackdethSince you are on the subject of GRUB, I'm in a bind and need help. Let me know when you have a break in the current discussion and I will explain. It's rather lengthy and I don't wish to intrude.03:59
Campfirei have a break04:00
wilee-nileejackdeth, Many users here, post your problem04:00
jackdethI have a system with 4 Hard Drives. WD 160GB with WinXP, Hitachi 320GB with Win7Ultimate, WD 1TB partitioned in 2 halves just for data, Seagate 500GB for Ubuntu 13.04.04:00
jackdethMy former main OS was the XP drive. The drives started failing. Replaced it with the Win7 drive. Later installed Ubuntu and made dual boot between it and Win7.04:00
jackdethRecently I thought I'd take out the XP drive. But then my system won't boot. I think GRUB must have been put on that drive by default somehow. How can I get GRUB on my Ubuntu drive (or Win7 drive) so I can still boot to Ubuntu/Win7 so I can take that 160gb drive out?04:01
jackdethI read online somewhere you are supposed to be able to put GRUB on both drives so in case one fails it can still boot to the other. Is this correct?04:01
Dr_willisYou cabn have grub on the windows drive or on the linux dedicated drive if you wanted to04:01
Dr_willisyou can put grub on both also..04:01
Dr_willisyou can put grub on a spare usb flash drive if you really wanted to. ;)04:01
Dr_willisI keep grub on the linux drive. in case i ever remove it.. windows boots normally since its untouched04:02
Campfireis grub like the mbr04:02
Dr_willisGrub installs to the MBR04:02
Dr_willisits a bootloader04:02
wilee-nileejackdeth, Down load in ubuntu the bootrepair and run the bootinfo summary only and post its url. When you dual boot windows they combine their boot loader, so removing XP removed part of W7's boot.04:02
wilee-nileemost likely anyway04:02
Jordan_Ujackdeth: Can you currently boot Ubuntu?04:04
Campfirewhat do they call the windows one04:04
Jordan_UCampfire: ntldr for XP, BCD for Windows Vista +.04:05
Campfireok and grub for ubuntu04:05
Campfiremaking sence04:05
Campfireok for grub is grub2 a more advanced version of the mbr04:07
Dr_willisgrub is old.. grub2 is new.04:08
Campfirefor ubuntu04:08
Campfirety04:08
Dr_willislilo is an older bootloader.   syslinux,  is a differnt loader04:08
Dr_willisthe wiki pedia for grub may have info04:08
Campfireok is grub used on most distros04:09
Dr_willisused on all of them as far as i know.04:09
wilee-nileedevslash, I installed touch a couple of times and the ubuntu desktop via phablet but never really messed around with them on my nexus 7 it was not pretty, a couple of months ago anyway.04:09
Dr_willisexcept ones that want to use lilo for some weird reason04:09
devslashits better now. not complete but much better. ive been installing the latest nightly about 102 times per month on average04:09
devslasherr 1-204:10
Nmbr1Campfire: if you are curious about different kinds of bootloaders, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_boot_loaders includes some charts comparing the simlarities and differences between many different bootloaders.04:10
wilee-nileedevslash, Yeah I figured they are coming along, the desktop would be my interest.04:10
wilee-nileeIt ran normally I installed lubuntu04:10
miltonh26does anyone have a solution for the package update error:04:11
miltonh26 W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring_universe_binary-amd64_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch04:11
Campfireok ntlrd  for xp bcd for vista grub and grub 2 for mogority of distros and lilo for syslinux04:11
wilee-nileemiltonh26, This showing as a partial upgrade?04:12
miltonh26yes, the updater is unable to pull repositories04:13
wilee-nileemiltonh26 It happens don't run a partial, it generally is missing dependencies, or other things, I would wait for it to clear to a clear update.04:14
wilee-nileeusually happens in a day or two04:14
ntzrmtthihu777hello, I understand that the dpkg operations are ran as root, but how can I get the user $HOME variable to use in a preinst script?04:14
JackDethI'm terribly sorry. I'm having flaky issues with my internet and keep getting disconnected.04:14
JackDethIf anyone left a response, I did not get it. :-(04:15
miltonh26wilee-nilee: : I've been having the issue on more than one Ubuntu 13.04 for weeks.04:15
miltonh26wilee-nilee: should I do a sudo apt-get clean first? Delete repository files in /var/lib/apt?04:16
wilee-nileeJackDeth, Not sure how the two others feel, but the bootinfo summary from the bootrepair app would help me see what is going on, you can run just that from the app.04:16
Campfirei,m trying to converet my thinking from the way windows and ubuntu uses there os may i ask a fey more questions04:17
JackDethwilee....let's pretend for a moment I'm a total idiot.....because I am.  :-P    How do I do what you just said?04:17
wilee-nileemiltonh26, Yeah try copy and pasting sudo apt-get autoremove ; sudo apt-get auto-clean ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:17
miltonh26wilee-nilee: will do try thanks.04:18
JackDethDo I just click the launcher and type in "Boot Repair"?04:18
JackDethOh. I think I found the app you are referring to.04:18
wilee-nileeJackDeth, Download this app to ubuntu or a live cd and run just the bootinfo summary, it generates a url you can post. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair04:19
Campfireok programs are packages if i,m correct that uses hard ware that are dependentces and rpos that are drivers04:19
wilee-nileemiltonh26, Made one mistake it is  sudo apt-get autoremove ; sudo apt-get autoclean ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:19
JackDethhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5892956/04:20
wilee-nileeJackDeth, When I see this /grldr it looks like pirate ware, not sure here just saying04:21
miltonh26wilee-nilee: yes, I caught that. thx. just ran sudo apt-get update and get the same error04:21
wilee-nileemiltonh26, Not sure then myself if you have been having this problem where to go without just googling stuff.04:22
Atri_Hello04:23
miltonh26wilee-nilee: yes, I have googled it at least a 1/2 dozen times look for a solution. Butno go. Did log a bug and saw others are having the same issue.04:24
Campfireok after grub loads i pick a linux version then goes to password screen whats the next step bash or shell or something like that04:24
wilee-nileeJackDeth, Not saying you knew this or had any intentions but that notation is not in any legit windows install, however you can get W8.1 the development release for free and it auto activates.04:24
benbloomokay. I think I may have broken my NFS server with my network settings. can someone take a look? /etc/hostname 'Tristan' /etc/hosts: http://paste.debian.net/17197/ /etc/network/interfaces: http://paste.debian.net/17198/04:25
miltonh26wilee-nilee: thanks for the help. it is appreciated.04:25
midfingrhello04:25
orangerobotwhat is the difference between /var/log/kern.log e /var/log/dmesg?04:26
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taekkern.log is for kernel only?04:27
Anonynoustest04:27
midfingris there a channel for ubuntu 13.10 by chance?04:27
wilee-nileemidfingr, #ubuntu+104:28
midfingrthank you :)04:28
wilee-nilee;)04:28
jackdethDarn connection dropped again.  :-/04:28
benbloom'rpcinfo -p localhost' output: 'rpcinfo: can't contact portmapper: RPC: Remote system error - Connection timed out'04:28
jackdethDid you get the URL I sent with the report?04:28
rabbitface2[A04:29
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wilee-nileejackdeth, Yes, when I see this /grldr it looks like pirate ware, not sure here just saying. Not saying you knew this or had any intentions but that notation is not in any legit windows install, however you can get W8.1 the development release for free and it auto activates. Here are my two posts.04:29
wilee-nileeI'm not accusing you, it is none of my business.04:30
Campfirewilee ty for help so far i,ll wait till this finishes if you just have time to talk ubuntu basics or is there a beter channal04:30
wilee-nileeCampfire, I'm just a armchair user, I barely know the basics.04:31
jackdethI'm not entirely sure what you were just saying, but I have the physical Win7 disc, black face with kind of a halo looking thing around the outer edge....04:31
jackdethBought it at a local reputable computer store.04:31
Campfirei have no idia what a arm chair is04:32
wilee-nileejackdeth, THis line looks normal in the script except for the (/grldr) /boot.ini /grldr /bootmgr /Boot/BCD /grldr /ntldr  /NTDETECT.COM  that would not be on a MS install from their disc. Anyway that is a bit more convoluted than I can feel that I can get you what is needed.04:33
wilee-nileeI would talk with the sellers of that disc if it were me,04:34
jackdethWell, it's a Windows store. They said they don't use Linux and suggested I come here for help getting this boot loader thing to work right.04:35
jackdethShould I just play around with this boot rapair utility, maybe?04:35
jackdethrapair=repair04:36
wilee-nileejackdeth, Cool, like I say it is not my business, I was just passing info,04:36
taekYo, anyway to make programs to snap to the edges of the screen?04:36
Campfirefirmware of hdd ?04:36
wilee-nileeCampfire, Armchair is a colloquial of I'm an amateur.04:37
wilee-nileeposer, fake.....etc04:37
wilee-nileelol04:37
Campfirecould pc bios mess up getting linux grub bl to04:38
jackdethThat's ok. Well, thanks anyway for at least looking into it.04:39
miltonh26taek: install Unity Tweak to control window snapping04:39
ziggyanyone having random crashes with ubuntu 13.04 ?04:40
taekmiltonh26: will do thanks04:40
Ari-Yangziggy, your question is kind of vague04:41
Campfireif your a armchair i,m  the armchair basement leval04:42
miltonh26ziggy: yes. caused I think by the nvidia optimus driver even with bumblebee installed04:42
miltonh26seems to happen on mouse movements04:42
ziggyto revise my question ubuntu crashes randomly when i use google chrome , or just browsing external drive,  i have ati drivers installed.04:45
wilee-nileeziggy, Has it always?04:46
ziggyyes since install04:46
miltonh26ziggy, how does it crash?04:46
Campfirearmchair this is doorknob asking if you still out out there04:46
Campfiremy bad04:46
miltonh26hard crash or graphics hang?04:46
ziggycompletely locks up04:46
ziggyhard crash04:46
wilee-nileeziggy, what is the hardware as far as chip and ram amount.04:47
miltonh26ziggy, does the mouse work but cannot click anything?04:47
ziggy3.4 x2 4gb ddr2 ati 585004:47
ziggyyes i cant click anything04:48
miltonh26ziggy, yes, same as me. there are many ppl having the same issue. which kernel are you using?04:48
miltonh26you might want to try upgrading04:49
wilee-nileeziggy, I'm wondering if something is eating the ram and it goes to swap, have you looked at what is running, I use htop at times but have a conky with that info as far as use.04:49
gjdjtpjmdytasdf04:49
Y111#22104:49
ziggy3.8.0-26-generic, yes i have the base system running04:50
ziggyno other programs04:50
ziggysorry if im a noob im trying to switch from windows04:50
Campfireone question can you up grade and down grade kernals on ubuntu and keep settings04:50
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wilee-nileeziggy, Sure but something in the OS might be driving it hard, it is difficult to tell from here at least for me.04:51
Dr_willissettings? the kernels dont affect users settings in their home.. what settingd do you mean Campfire ?04:51
Campfiredrivers packages etc04:52
Campfirei,m learning as we go04:52
ziggylooking at system monitor Xorg has the highest cpu usage at 3-8%04:52
ziggyload avg 0.01 0.11 0.4004:53
ziggyi do have xfce04:54
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Campfireok xorg and  xfce04:54
Campfireanything else you have ziggy04:55
ziggynot really04:56
Campfirei forget if xorg and xfce  have to do with mininal and max installs or video can you refresh me04:57
Campfirei was thinking to learn ubuntu fast i would set up a grafix card with four monitors have wiki on one with like a linux dragon speak05:01
Campfireto ask a question and make it speak the definision05:01
paul2323Hey guys, am I right in thinking that (after some our or two of research), that there is NO solution to syncing or adding music to iOS (iphone 4/4s) above iOS4, using linux? (ubuntu 13.04)05:03
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taekpaul2323: as far as I know, ipod/ipad is not supported on linux05:03
Ari-Yangpaul2323, afaik Apple gadgets like ipod/ipad/iphone are compatible with ofc Mac OS and Windows (because windows has iTunes afaik)05:04
paul2323right. so im still dual-os'ing Windows 8 (with iTunes), and ubuntu 13.0405:04
paul2323(and i have mint 14 installed, but not active. Wasnt doing it for me)05:05
paul2323so i basically only use Win 8 for the itunes. I haven't run into much , aside from some niche apps, that i can't use Ubuntu for05:05
paul2323That works 'okay' for myself, but my girlfriend has an older laptop (2.0ghz dual core, 2gb ram, ~230gb HDD)05:06
paul2323and we were looking at maybe putting ubuntu 32 bit on it, but iOS syncing is a dealbreaker for her05:06
riqdiizHi I have a modem huawei but won't connect. Any help?05:06
Ari-Yangpaul2323, what you just said is all irrelevant lol this is an ubuntu support channel :b if you want you can stop by #ubuntu-offtopic05:07
paul2323is it off topic?05:07
Ari-Yangkind of05:07
Ari-Yang*shrugs*05:07
paul2323i'll stop then, didn't realize.05:07
paul2323for the record, is it because my concern isn't necessarily ubuntu specific?05:08
Campfirecan you make ubuntu dual boot to ios05:08
Ari-Yang!offtopic > paul232305:08
ubottupaul2323, please see my private message05:08
paul2323kk05:08
paul2323thx05:08
riqdiizIs there a gta version of the game that can run on Ubuntu?05:12
syntroPipaul2323, have you read about http://www.libimobiledevice.org/05:13
Nmbr1riqdiiz: this channel is for Ubuntu support questions. If you have questions about GTA you may find #ubuntu-offtopic of some help05:14
paul2323syntroPi, that's EXACTLY what i read. which is why i'm led to believe there is no solution atm.05:14
riqdiizNmbr1: thanks05:15
Nmbr1riqdiiz: no worries05:15
syntroPipaul2323, hmm i never tried that, what exactly do you want to accomplish? I thought this lib is for sync (eg music via rhythmbox, amarok and such)...05:18
syntroPialso there is always wine to run itunes on linux05:18
Ari-Yangbut wine isn't reliable.... it may "get the job done" though05:19
syntroPiyeah but i thought that lib is for native support reverse engineering05:21
syntroPialso there is ideviceinstaller  fot the aps05:21
syntroPiapps05:21
syntroPijust read about it, i dont own any apple product so i cant know how stable or complete that is though its always worth a try imho05:22
paul2323syntroPi, Sorry, i was checking other channel. Generally i gather that as of iOS 4.x.x, (which was a couple years ago or more, can't remember), Apple has added enough 'security' layers that make it VERY difficult for linux-heads to rev-engineer a fix for the syncing issue05:30
paul2323and basically no iOS devices post 4.x.x can sync their music library specifically.05:30
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syntroPipaul2323, ah ok didnt know that05:43
paul2323yup05:44
paul2323so if you have ancient ipods, you are okay05:44
paul2323but if you are my girlfriend who has a iPhone 4s, you can't afford to switch to linux without dual-os'ing, or saying goodbye to ever changing the music on your device.05:44
Nmbr1syntroPi: you're other option is us a vm05:46
crankharderI just installed and see running php-fpm, but there's no socket??  I think it's supposed to be at /var/run/php5-fpm.sock, but it's not and there's no mention of it in php's conf file05:46
paul2323vm = virtual machine / virtual box?05:46
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syntroPiNmbr1, i use android which feels like a home run on linux05:47
Nmbr1vm = virtual machine. vmware (vmplayer or vmworkstation) and virtualbox will let you create VMs05:47
syntroPiyes i use those already extensively05:47
Nmbr1if you have an ubuntu vm on windows or windows vm on ubuntu that should take care of the iPhone issue05:48
Nmbr1use whichever has windows (vm or host) for iTunes05:48
syntroPipaul2323,  if i were you i would just do some checking and also maybe try to compile the latest trunk05:49
paul2323I believe i have the latest stuff. o well.05:49
paul2323i'll try a couple more things05:49
histoAri-Yang: wine doesn't support usb05:49
paul2323my gf won't care if she has to stick to windows. she's used to it anyway. And im dropping iOS for android soon anywa05:49
paul2323anyway*05:49
syntroPijust curious since they claim to support all those latest idevices05:50
paul2323enough about my issue tho, it's off topic :P05:50
syntroPik05:50
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clientHello05:51
histopaul2323: I don't think getting your ipod to work with ubuntu is off topic. But you've already received answers05:51
clientWould anybody be interested in testing my chat app I built with node.js? I just wanna see if it works globally05:52
paul2323well it's linux wide, from all indications05:52
aeon-ltdclient: ask in offtopic05:54
clientWheres that?05:54
client*aeon-ltd05:54
coolstarcan I get mod-spdy for Apache 2.2 on my Ubuntu Server using apt-get or do I have to download their deb file?05:56
clienthave you tried to apt-get command? coolstar05:58
coolstarclient: problem is, I don't know the package id05:58
clientcoolstar see here: code.google.com/p/mod-spdy/‎05:59
histocoolstar: https://developers.google.com/speed/spdy/mod_spdy/06:00
histocoolstar: they have debs there06:00
clientwait coolstar I don't think apt-get will work06:00
coolstarok I'll just wget the debs and install them then06:00
clientsee here coolstar: http://googledevelopers.blogspot.com/2012/04/add-spdy-support-to-your-apache-server.html06:00
clientthey say download the .deb06:01
Phoenix1969oh boy, so after completely removing the ssd, and installing it into another drive, reformatting it, reinstalling it, and reloading win7, i still get the grub screen with one win7 and two ubunyu choives, lol06:01
Phoenix196920:00 <Phoenix1969> unbuntu is on the os choosing screen 2x, when its completely uninstalled and i used the boot repair, still there06:01
Phoenix1969i even cleared cmos06:01
Droopsta915hello. im trying to upgrade my ubuntu 11.04. i downloaded the gmount iso folder but cant instal. the folder is on my desktop. what command can i install it with?06:02
clientPhoenix1969 when you say it's on the screen twice, are you referring to the normal and safe mode?06:03
watchhello06:04
Phoenix1969no, on the grub screen06:04
watchhow can i boot ubuntu without internet ?06:04
Phoenix1969has windows once, ubuntu 2x,  nothing else written06:04
clientyeah. on the grub screen, is 1 a safe mode?06:04
watchwithout waiting06:04
Droopsta915i tried ./configure06:05
clientDroopsta915 is it a folder or a .iso file?06:06
clientwatch you don't need the internet to start ubuntu.06:06
Jordan_UDroopsta915: That's not how you upgrade Ubuntu.06:07
Jordan_U!upgrade | Droopsta91506:07
ubottuDroopsta915: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade06:07
Droopsta915client: its gmount iso folder on my desktop. i downloaded a newer ubuntu iso to install but need to install the gmount iso folder first06:07
clientDroopsta915 why don't you burn the .iso file onto a disk instead?06:08
Droopsta915Client: im using inspiron 1012 netbook. no cd drive06:09
clientDroopsta915 what about a usb flash stick?06:09
Jordan_Uclient: Droopsta915: You don't use an Ubuntu CD (burned or not) to upgrade to a newer version of Ubuntu (unless by "upgrade" you mean re-install preserving /home/).06:10
Phoenix1969can i  just eliminate the grub screen somehow?06:11
clientJordan_U: Even upgrades of Ubuntu come on .iso? I thought he was referring to the .iso that you download for a new ubuntu06:11
ntzrmtthihu777I just dput my tarball to my ppa, but I'm seeing no activity in the web-browser, how long does it take? its a tiny package, really just a postinst script to automate some things.06:12
aeon-ltdPhoenix1969: pretty sure you can hide it or put the timer to 006:12
Phoenix1969how?06:13
Jordan_Uclient: No, they don't (which is what I'm trying to tell Droopsta915). Droopsta915 stated in their first message that they're trying to upgrade to a newer version of Ubuntu.06:13
Phoenix1969theres no ubunto even on the system, and i cant rid the grub screen06:13
aeon-ltdPhoenix1969: it's in the config06:13
Phoenix1969windows config?06:14
Phoenix1969what config?06:14
taekdfdew06:14
aeon-ltdPhoenix1969: grub configuration06:14
Phoenix1969how do i get to grub config?06:15
aeon-ltdPhoenix1969: what do you have installed if not ubuntu?06:15
Phoenix1969win706:15
Droopsta915Jordan_U: yes. 11.04 doesnt upgrade anymore. i have a new ubuntu iso on my flash drive but need to mount. i have to install gmount iso folder fom my desktop. how can i install the folder in terminal06:15
Phoenix1969and thats after a total reformat06:16
Phoenix1969the grub still there06:16
aeon-ltdPhoenix1969: of the whole hdd?06:16
Phoenix1969yes06:16
aeon-ltdthat's impossible unless you installed grub after windows or you have 2 hdds06:16
clientPhoenix1969 are you sure you formatted correctly? Removed partitions too?06:17
Phoenix1969i unplugged all other drives, and reformatted the ssd on   another system, then did a fresh win7 install, and when i finally rebooted, the grub screen is there with win7 and 2 ubuntu choices, lol06:18
Phoenix1969remove partitions.....hmm06:18
Jordan_UDroopsta915: You cannot install Ubuntu from that iso except by booting from it. Period.06:18
aeon-ltdPhoenix1969: unplugged other drives?06:18
Phoenix1969yes06:18
Jordan_U!eol | Droopsta91506:18
ubottuDroopsta915: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades06:19
clientmake sure that there's no partitions left on the drive.06:19
aeon-ltdPhoenix1969: are they plugged in now? and what is the boot order?06:19
Phoenix1969not plugged in now still, only 1 ssd06:19
clientEven if there is more than 1 drive, it'll be a highly complex task to boot from 2 different drives. so the issue isn't there. it looks like you didn't reformat properly06:21
client(if booting from 2 different drives is impossible in itself)06:22
Jordan_U!bootinfo | Phoenix196906:22
ubottuPhoenix1969: Boot info script is a usefull script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).06:22
client!google06:23
ubottuWhile Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.06:23
client:'D06:23
Droopsta915Jodan_U: mounting a newer release wont help me?06:24
Droopsta915Jordan_U:ill try the eol link. thank you.06:24
clientDroopsta915 which version of ubuntu are you trying to upgrade to?06:24
Droopsta915client: 11.0406:24
clientoh. you're trying to do system updates06:25
clientas Jordan_U said, if 11.04 is at its eol, maybe you should consider downloading ubuntu 12.0406:25
Jordan_UDroopsta915: You're welcome.06:26
Droopsta915client: yes. i downloaded 12.04 on my flashdrive as an iso file, but cant mount it. i have gmount iso floder on desktop, but dont know how to install it06:27
clientok Droopsta915 let me look for a method for you for installing ubuntu via flash. Is your pc old?06:29
Droopsta915client: about 2 years old inspiron mini 101206:30
clientok so you should be able to boot from usb06:31
Droopsta915client: yes. usb will work. i gues downloadind iso to usb was my 1st mistake. should i install 12.04 on usb?06:32
clientDroopsta915 see here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-desktop-long-term-support06:32
clienteven if you downloaded the iso to usb, it doesn't matter. you can just transfer it back to your pc and then 'burn' the iso onto the usb06:32
Droopsta915client: thank you. ill check it out. crossing fingers. UBUNTU for LIFE!!!! goodnight06:34
taekLili06:36
clientmy pleasure Droopsta915. if you need help, come back.06:36
taekDroopsta915: if you're USB device supports it, you can turn it into an installation/live media device06:36
taekI do it all the time with mine.06:37
clienttaek you're = you are06:38
taekclient: excuse me.06:40
taekI understand the need to be as correct as possible, but I am currently or was at that moment multi-tasking06:40
clientyeah I get that taek. but that typo was a killer. i couldn't resist06:41
taekHah. grammer-nazi06:41
awaken|zzzhey peeps :) Anyone know how to get a displaylink USB adapter to work under 13.04 ? Been googling around the forums etc, not found anything useful06:41
clientsounds like you need a driver awaken06:42
awaken|zzzapparently it's built into the kernel06:43
awaken|zzzaccording to http://www.displaylink.com/technology/common_questions.php anyway06:43
awaken|zzzshould warn i'm a bit of a noob :P06:44
awaken|zzzno mention on http://libdlo.freedesktop.org/wiki/ of any ubuntu past 9.10 though :/06:44
clientim a noob too.06:46
clienti just learn a little each day06:46
Jordan_Uclient: I assume you've tried just plugging it in and checking the Display Settings (from GNOME Control Center)?06:46
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awaken|zzzyep06:47
clientwrong person Jordan_U06:47
clientredirect to: awaken|zzz06:47
Jordan_Uawaken|zzz: I assume you've tried just plugging it in and checking the Display Settings (from GNOME Control Center)?06:48
awaken|zzzyeah , thats what the yep was for :D06:49
awaken|zzzsorry was that a whisper? first time using xchat, more used to hydra etc06:49
awaken|zzzand same here client  :P had mucho fun configuring  and securing my business webserver recently. Small business entrepreneurs have to do it for themselves! :D06:52
awaken|zzzand i say noob, although I did actually first start with slackware in 96, and eventually got too annoyed with redhat 5 and suse 5 recompiling kernel to get audio and stuff working and gave up on nix for more than a decade lol.06:53
clientawaken you could get a dev or sysadmin to do the setup for you for $15 an hour06:53
awaken|zzzscrew that! im geeky enough :P06:54
clientmaybe redhat was a bad choice. shuda tried debian instead06:54
awaken|zzzand it's also encouraged me to whack ubuntu 13.04 on my main desktop, which has got to be a good thing06:54
awaken|zzzand I think back in 96/97 ish debian was just as annoying as suse/redhat06:54
clientservers have been running on linux for a very long time06:55
clientprobably just a lot harder back then06:55
awaken|zzzeverything was06:55
awaken|zzzmind u, sort of simpler too06:55
awaken|zzzthere wasn't so many different ways of skinning the same cat06:56
awaken|zzzor multilayered technologies06:56
awaken|zzze.g. pulse on alsa and oss - so many different bits to fail06:56
awaken|zzzand all the different ways of starting/stoping service06:56
awaken|zzzetc. etc06:56
acnhi, i need help06:57
acnanyone here?06:58
pozi am06:58
awaken|zzzso any ideas on displaylink? it's the number 1 reason for me not choosing ubuntu whenever my PC boots :P06:58
awaken|zzzlosing my 3rd screen06:58
acnhow do u do a dual boot win xp and ubuntu?06:58
awaken|zzzwhack ubuntu disc, in, follow instructions, works a treat :P06:58
pozisent there a setting for that when you are installing ubuntu?06:58
awaken|zzznot for me, i had to be difficult and install ubuntu on the spare space of an intel raid SRT caching volume :P06:59
awaken|zzzthat was a pain :P06:59
pozyou have a few options, one is to erase windows and install ubuntu, one is to create a partition and dual boot with win and ubuntu...06:59
awaken|zzzhe's gone07:00
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pozi think there is another07:00
pozoh07:00
awaken|zzzbut i think it just lets you do an install on a folder on the windows drive07:00
pozawaken, you any good at wireless adaptors?07:00
awaken|zzzif you choose to "install alongside windows"07:00
pozyeah, i think that was the third one. to install alongside windows...07:00
awaken|zzznever tried it with ubuntu but it did that with mint and im guessing they just pinched it straight from ubuntu installer07:00
clientchoose that option poz07:00
clientcreate partition07:00
pozsorry?07:01
awaken|zzzit was acn that wanted to know and hes gone07:01
awaken|zzzand probably not poz but two puzzeled brains are often better than 1! :D07:01
clientpoz if you're new to ubuntu, try a wubi install. although i dont think wubi is supported anymore.07:01
pozi got rid of windows07:01
clientso your HDD is empty?07:02
pozwell i installed backports from here: http://drvbp1.linux-foundation.org/~mcgrof/rel-html/backports/07:02
awaken|zzzclient, it worked in mint 14 and pretty sure its all still there on ubuntu 13.0407:02
clientdo a direct install then07:02
awaken|zzzand poz is already running linux client :D07:02
aeon-ltdif you ever want windows, reinstall it first, reinstalling grub is not fun07:02
pozand then my usb wireless adaptor stoped working07:02
pozclient, that was someone else with the problem, not me07:02
varunendraclient, it was another user who wanted help with dualboot. They quit. ;)07:03
pozmy problem is much harder to solve07:03
varunendrapoz, I think you tried the proprietary wireless driver yesterday. Didn't that help?07:03
awaken|zzzreinstalling grub is easy anyway, http://www.supergrubdisk.org/07:03
awaken|zzzso whats your problem poz? :)07:04
pozno it did not help. i also returned that one and bought another one that i thought would be more compatible. maybe i was wrong07:04
pozi plug in the usb wireless adapter and ubuntu simply does not see it.07:04
pozi bought this one: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX4089307:05
varunendrapoz, oh now I remember .... you tried the backported kernel07:05
pozyeah, i am currently trying and older version now to see if that will work07:06
awaken|zzzpoz, is this for a desktop? might i suggest an easy solution... http://goo.gl/Iuerp07:06
varunendrapoz, what is its product id (lsusb)? Do you know which driver it uses?07:06
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poztrying this one: compat-drivers-3.9-rc4-2-su07:07
pozlaptop07:07
awaken|zzzand the internel wifi not supported? ow07:07
pozthis is the result from lsusb: Bus 001 Device 005: ID 13b1:003b Linksys07:07
poznot much info07:07
clientoh my bad poz07:08
varunendrapoz, that device is supported by the native driver rt2800usb. Does it load for it?07:10
poznot sure. i think i broke my computer. is there a way i can see if i still have the driver?07:10
varunendrapoz, you can fine many things by looking at the result of "wireless_script" while the adapter is plugged in and tries/fails to connect (or detect) : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1235038507:11
varunendras/fine/find07:12
pozcan i send files over irc?07:13
varunendra!pastebin | poz07:13
ubottupoz: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.07:13
clientpoz is your wireless card not working?07:13
taekUbuntu 12.03 didn't come with an IM client?07:13
cplxHi Guys - I have a macbook pro with a samsung 840ssd... running Ubuntu 13.04 - What is the best way to enable AHCI as I don't have a bios :P...07:13
pozclient, no its not07:13
varunendrataek, when did 12.03 come out ;P07:13
taekyou know what I mean varunendra07:14
varunendra:D07:14
varunendraEmpathy?07:14
taekI think i'll install pidgin07:15
pozhere is the results from the wireless_script: http://pastebin.com/Lwmj9gJB07:16
varunendrataek, Empathy is the default IM client in 12.04, works pretty well for me. But its your choice of course.07:16
taekI use pidgin on my laptop07:16
taekDoes Empathy support OTR varunendra ?07:17
clientlooks like your wlan is there poz07:17
clientwlan)07:17
clientwlan)07:17
clientwlan007:17
FloodBot1client: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:17
cplxHi Guys - I have a macbook pro with a samsung 840ssd... running Ubuntu 13.04 - What is the best way to enable AHCI as I don't have a bios :P...07:17
pozclient, but not wlan107:17
varunendrataek, what is OTR? I don't know about it.07:17
client.07:18
pozmy internal wireless card works. it is my usb wireless adapter that does not work07:18
clientwhy would i get muted07:18
clientoh07:18
taekvarunendra: http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/07:18
clientan external device07:18
pozit did before i installed the backports, then it stoped working and its like its not even plugged in07:18
pozi want to install the rt2800usb drivers, but i am unsure how07:19
pozthis page seems to be where i need to be: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/rt2800usb07:19
varunendrapoz, what is output of 'modinfo rt2800usb' ?07:20
pozbut i am unsure how to install the drivers given that site07:20
taekdoesn't look like it does07:20
pozmodinfo rt2800usb ----> http://pastebin.com/DWay9qdP07:21
clientpoz have you looked in: Settings > Additional Drivers ?07:21
krolowi'm trying to install manually the build-essentials in 14.03, and i'm getting an error while installling dpkg-dev "The package is of bad quality", does someone know how i can get it installed?07:21
varunendrataek, yeah, I couldn't find that or a similar option in a quick glance. Doesn't seem like it does OTR (unless it is hidden somewhere in the settings)07:22
taekvarunendra: it's fine i'll just install pidgin07:23
pozthe only "additional drives" that show up are for my graphics card07:23
varunendrakrolow, "apt-get install --print-uris build-essential" -- > will return download links of the required packages instead of downloading them.07:24
varunendrapoz, additional drivers shows proprietary drivers. rt2800usb is native.07:24
cplxHi Guys - I have a macbook pro with a samsung 840ssd... running Ubuntu 13.04 - What is the best way to enable AHCI as I don't have a bios :P...07:24
pozoh okay, and it looks like i have it installed07:25
pozso i am so confused as to why it does not show up07:25
pozis there a setting which disabled the use of two wireless cards?07:25
krolowvarunendra: oh i didn't know about this param, thank you, but i have ran and received "unable to locate package"07:25
varunendrakrolow, make sure all the repositories are enabled in Software Center. Then do an update - sudo apt-get update.07:27
krolowvarunendra: okay, i gonna try here, i'm downloading manually because i do not have internet access in this computer, so i'm trying to install the packages to be able to compile the network card07:28
krolowvarunendra: thank you07:29
varunendranp :)07:29
varunendrakrolow, which network card are you installing it for ?07:30
varunendrapoz, I overlooked something last time. Apparently, that VID : PID combo does not exist in rt2800usb. Which means it won't recognize that atapter.07:31
cplxHi Guys - I have a macbook pro with a samsung 840ssd... running Ubuntu 13.04 - What is the best way to enable AHCI as I don't have a bios :P...07:32
krolowvarunendra: it's actually a wireless adapter by usb, RTL8188CUS, and it is not autheticating in the wireless network, it's actually mostly working without any driver but it's not authenticating properly...07:32
varunendrakrolow, which OS version? And did you try the available parameters for the driver?07:33
pozvarunendra. is that real life?07:33
pozit is going to look so bad when i have to return a second adapter in a week07:34
krolowvarunendra: ubuntu 13.04, about the paraments for the driver i haven't tried, i want to compile here the drive but i need to have some packages installed, so that's what i'm trying to do here07:34
varunendrapoz, unfortunately it is :( You may have some luck with ndiswrapper... or lookup linux drivers for 13b1:003b (my net is crawling @ 4-5 kB/s)07:35
varunendrakrolow, I'm not sure about installed version, but those Realtek drivers build fine on live session of 13.04, without build-essential.07:36
pozhummm, okay. thanks anyways varunendra07:37
varunendrakrolow, you may try the "swenc=Y" parameter for the native driver.... if it helps, you won't need the proprietary one.07:38
krolowvarunendra: how do i set this param? i'm a totally noob here :(07:38
varunendrakrolow, assuming it is rtl8192cu driver, you can try - "sudo modprobe -rfv rtl8192cu".... then ... "sudo modprobe -v rtl8192cu swenc=Y" . The first command will remove the driver, the second one will load it with the desired parameter.07:41
varunendrakrolow, this is a temporary parameter, will be lost at next boot.07:42
krolowvarunendra: oh i see, i gonna give a try here for that, i could figure out here the problem with the invalid package, i have download another and finally got the build-essential, but i still get the error while compiling, i gona try what you have mention07:43
varunendrak07:44
krolowtried here, still the same, i have removed the wirelesss auth protection, but even with this disable and setuping static ip, it does not work07:45
krolowvarunendra: what i found strange is that network appears avaliable, i just not enable to connect...07:46
varunendrakrolow, I'd like to see a detailed report : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385 Try this when the adapter is plugged in, but fails to connect.07:47
krolowvarunendra: okay, let me dowload and move to the computer with the issue07:49
DuncanNZDoes Ubuntu use wpa_supplicant as its underlying wifi system? I have manpages and example config files for wpa_supplicant already on my system, but not an actual config file…07:50
cplx Hi Guys - I have a macbook pro with a samsung 840ssd... running Ubuntu 13.04 - What is the best way to enable AHCI as I don't have a bios :P...07:53
krolowvarunendra: https://gist.github.com/krolow/07d9a3abfbbfc7fdfc0707:54
DarKrafthasadna07:54
varunendraDuncanNZ, I believe Network Manager uses it implicitly, not sure about its configuration files though.07:54
DuncanNZvarunendra: OK, that's what I suspected considered I have it installed – it’s just so odd I can't find the config file in any of the normal places, nor using a `locate wpa_supplicant.conf`07:55
varunendraDuncanNZ, probably use variants of "find" command ;)07:55
DuncanNZvarunendra: an example please ☺07:56
DuncanNZor does anyone know where wpa_supplicant.conf is normally stored on Ubuntu?07:57
varunendraDuncanNZ, find /etc -name "*supplicant*"07:58
varunendrareturns /etc/wpa_supplicant07:59
DuncanNZwhich is a directory on my system07:59
DuncanNZand the config file is nowhere to be seen inside it?08:00
DuncanNZJust three files: action_wpa.sh , functions.sh , ifupdown.sh …08:00
POVaddctDuncanNZ: if wpa_supplicant is controlled by network-manager, there is no need for a config file. so there is none.08:01
POVaddctDuncanNZ: why do you want to see the config file?08:01
DuncanNZPOVaddct: So where does it store passwords, etc?08:01
DuncanNZAs an example for another system which is CLI only08:01
DuncanNZand is having trouble connecting to the same network, so I want to see what my config file looks like08:02
POVaddctDuncanNZ: network-manager does that, somewhere in gconf08:02
POVaddctDuncanNZ: if you want to have a wpa_supplicant.conf for a cli only system, you can generate one (for wpa) with wpa_passphrase08:03
DuncanNZPOVaddct: Thanks08:03
POVaddctDuncanNZ: wpa_passphrase YOUR_ESSID > wpa_supplicant.conf08:03
POVaddctDuncanNZ: (type in passphrase)08:03
DuncanNZPOVaddct: Thanks for that, I’ll be back soon after trying that08:03
POVaddctDuncanNZ: then look into wpa_supplicant.conf to see the syntax08:03
varunendrakrolow, I couldn't get any hints in the report. It maybe the driver's fault, or it may be mine for not being able to guess. Can you normally *see* the available networks with that adapter?08:05
superdohi08:05
krolowvarunendra: yes i can, it's not authorizing and so i have test disable the wireless protection even disabled it is not working08:06
superdoif I connect an external hdd to my laptop, can I rename the partition names from Computer (nautilus) Hard disk (Krusader) ?08:06
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varunendrakrolow, which channels are you using in the router? (a/b/g/n)08:07
POVaddctDuncanNZ: and make sure the cli only system does NOT run network-manager. you cannot have wpa_supplicant running with config file while network-manager is also running a wpa_supplicant instance using the same wireless card.08:07
DuncanNZyeah it’s BSD so might be different... but I’ll check soon08:07
varunendrakrolow, you may try b/g only, it sometimes helps with authentication issues, but obviously you'll miss n-speeds. Still better than nothing.08:08
krolowvarunendra: mixed (b/g), 2.457GHz08:08
POVaddctDuncanNZ: oh, if it's bsd i cannot help at all08:08
DuncanNZPOVaddct: OK I’ve tried that command and it doesn’t work, nevermind08:08
m000gleI know that the systray icon whitelist was deprecated in Ubuntu 13.04, but is there any way to bring this back? ... I am running a piece of software, using Wine 1.6, which requires a tray icon for full functionality.08:08
DuncanNZIt only sets it up with the defaults, not the extra options I thought I’d need.08:09
POVaddctDuncanNZ: "doesn’t work" says nothing08:09
varunendrakrolow, perhaps we should look at the proprietary driver then. What was the error you were getting while compiling?08:09
krolowvarunendra: strange that i have used this same adapter in raspberry pi, with a debian version(wheezy) and it works pretty well08:10
krolowvarunendra: let me show you the error08:10
cplxhi guys - how would i add ' setpci -d 8086:2828 90.b=40 ' to /etc/grub.d/10_linux so it runs on boot?08:12
krolowvarunendra: https://gist.github.com/krolow/07d9a3abfbbfc7fdfc07#file-error-txt08:13
cplxAnn0yeD: it's possible.... just difficult - been looking on google..............ba08:19
cplxneed to add ' setpci -d 8086:2828 90.b=40 ' to /etc/grub.d/10_linux so it runs on boot...08:19
varunendrakrolow, where did you download the driver from? It seems to be an older version (v2.6.6.0.20120405). I have it downloaded, and it is v3.4.4_4749.2012110508:19
krolowvarunendra: what is the url that you download, maybe is that the reason that is not compiling here08:20
krolowvarunendra: i get from some forums the url08:20
varunendrakrolow, realtek's site has some funny way of browsing the driver, let me 'discover' the correct link again :P08:21
krolowvarunendra: yeah, really a mess the site hehehe08:22
krolowvarunendra: i must stop buy these dealextremes stuffs(china) hehehe, it's always a pain to find the things08:22
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varunendrakrolow, http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=21&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#274208:23
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Jordan_Ucplx: Never edit anything in /etc/grub.d/.08:24
varunendraRTL8188CUS - Unix driver.08:24
douglusHi guys need to tech support please .... i m looking to buy/build a new pc was wondering if i bought the amd A10 if i would have any trouble runninng youtube full screen ?08:24
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cplxJordan_U: where would I add that setpci line then......?08:24
douglusI heard amd has bad driver support ?08:24
Johnny_Linuxdougl,  most have better experience with nvidia08:25
Jordan_Ucplx: You can add that command to /boot/grub/custom.cfg (create the file if it doesn't alreay exist). Note however that poking at PCI registers is dangerous though, and I haven't checked that command for sanity.08:25
douglusok thx08:25
Johnny_Linuxnp08:25
douglusjonny_linux amd cpu and nvidia gpu then ?08:25
Johnny_Linuxya, its what the doctor ordered08:26
varunendraJordan_U, can't those type of things be added in /etc/default/grub then update-grub ?08:26
douglusis 4 gb of ram enough to get use web and watch movies ?08:26
Jordan_Udouglus: AMD has better open source drivers for their GPUs (and actually works with the community), Nvidia has better proprietary drivers but explicitly refuses to help the community in any way (won't even provide the specifications for their hardware, so the nouveau developers need to reverse engineer everything).08:26
Johnny_Linuxyep08:26
cplxJordan_U: so add it to /boot/grub/custom.cfg the command as i?08:27
Jordan_Uvarunendra: No, this is not a kernel parameter, it's a grub command.08:27
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Jordan_Ucplx: Yes, add the command as-is.08:27
DuncanNZJordan_U: What about Intel? Because I just ordered a laptop with an Intel graphics card and Intel CPU08:27
cplxJordan_U: after I have created custom.cfg do i need to do anything else?08:28
Jordan_Ucplx: No.08:28
douglusJordan i was told that amd does not actively support youtube  play back  is this true ?08:28
Johnny_Linuxdouglus,  i have an amd cpu asus w/ ati and it runs youtube just fine08:28
douglusno glitch vdieo play back  in linux ?08:29
Johnny_Linuxnone08:29
Johnny_Linuxand its onboard08:29
Johnny_Linuxhd330008:29
Jordan_UDuncanNZ: Intel basically has the best driver support, completely open source with support entering the mainline kernel and Xorg before the hardware is released (with the exception of poulsbo chips, where they completely dropped the ball).08:29
douglusjonny_linux  think  your the only person i ve met who supports amd08:30
douglusait08:30
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FloodBot1!netsplit08:30
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cplxor just reboot08:30
cplxJordan_U: ^08:30
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit08:30
Johnny_Linuxi normally dont, i just put this machine tohether with old parts, its what i ended up with, i normally use nvidia08:30
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krolowvarunendra: i downloaded and tried to compile here got some errors too https://gist.github.com/krolow/07d9a3abfbbfc7fdfc07#file-error-2-txt08:30
Jordan_Ucplx: Just reboot, but have a LiveCD/USB on hand in case that PCI command does terrible things.08:31
douglusjonny_linux i m thinking of getting amd A10 this is plenty of kick hopefully amd drivers are getting better ?08:31
Johnny_Linuxnot sure about the amd a10, never used it, maybe someone here has08:32
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FloodBot1!netsplit08:46
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit08:46
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* alcane installing on 160gb drive and looking for partitioning advice, please advise08:50
* alcane is a home user08:50
histo!partition | alcane08:52
ubottualcane: For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes l - For partitioning programs see !GParted, or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap08:52
DuncanNZGeneral IRC question: does floodbot actually do anything other than give a message when people flood, and if not then why are there three of them?08:53
histoDuncanNZ: floodbot silences people afaik08:53
alcaneubottu: i know how to partition, i'm looking for what others think is the best scheme, as in, boot, swap, home or swap boot home or boot home swap....08:53
ubottualcane: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:53
* alcane knows how to partition... looking for opinions08:54
histoalcane: Notice the link from ubottu about partitioning schemes08:54
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histoalcane: How much ram do you have?08:54
alcanehisto: are you a bot?08:54
DuncanNZlol...08:55
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histoalcane: no08:55
alcanehisto: awesome, 2gb08:57
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alcanehisto: advice?09:01
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bekksalcane: 512M /boot, 2.1GB swap, 20G /, 4G /home and the rest for /data09:01
andybrinemorning guys09:02
OerHeksbekks sounds like standard partitioning.09:02
bekksOerHeks: ack09:02
andybrineJust a quick question, im having problems getting virtualboz working on ubuntu 13.0409:03
bekksOerHeks: besides the fact that I do not recommending insane big /homes :)09:03
alcanebekks: data? most of my data will be in the home folder....09:03
bekksalcane: Which I do not recommend.09:03
bekksalcane: /home is for personal files, configs. data doesnt belong there :)09:04
andybrineit keeps saying i need to install DKMS package first09:04
andybrinethis is already installed though09:04
andybrinehas someone managed to get virtualbox working in ubuntu 13.04?09:04
sanavhello , i need a personal help .I want to sign up for free web hosting .My computer IP is blocked and need some assistence for sign up .I'll be very grateful for help .I'll gave you all details needed .I need free web host for SSH (project).That site don't provide online help .Thanks .I'm waiting for help .09:05
OerHekssanav, this is ubuntu support, we cannot support free webhosting and banned ip.09:06
alcanebekks: so just a separate partition for extra stuff (movies, music, pictures, etc)09:06
bekksalcane: correct09:06
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alcanebekks: awesome, thanks =)09:07
OerHeks!netsplit09:07
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sanavOerHeks: i know that .I'm sorry for that but i don't know which IRC provide me that help .Can you tell me a suitable IRC ? thanks09:07
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sanav!ot09:09
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!09:09
AndrewEagleHello. In evince. How to change  scrolling through left mouse key instead of middle mouse key?09:12
krolowvarunendra: finally i could get it working using https://code.google.com/p/realtek-8188cus-wireless-drivers-3444749-ubuntu-1304/09:12
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regexks_why is there a server called morecock09:13
OerHeksregexks_, how is this related to ubuntu support?09:15
DJonesregexks_: You probably should ask the people who run the freenode network09:16
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regexks_oh i thought the people who run the freenode network might be ubuntu users09:17
rymate1234test09:17
OerHeks!test09:18
DJonesOerHeks: It won't work, ubottu has just fallen off irc09:18
OerHeksi just noticed DJones, and she returned \o/09:19
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akaWolfhello!09:25
varun_What just happened to the channel ?09:25
akaWolfI install Ubuntu 13.04 and got: "Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel."09:25
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akaWolfcan everyone help me?09:25
douglusguys how well does ubuntu work on 4gb of ram ?09:28
varun_douglus, fantastic, assuming rest of the hardware is well supported.09:29
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dougluswell not sure if i should buy 4or 8 gb of ram thinking of amd athalon 2 X4 750k with radeon hd667009:30
varunendradouglus, quality is more important than quantity of RAM, if both are same brands, 8GB would obviously be better.09:31
douglusvarunendra thanks09:32
varunendrawelcome :)09:32
akaWolf"Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel."09:34
akaWolfcan everyone help me?09:34
akaWolfUbuntu 13.0409:34
akaWolfstandart grub209:35
histo!md5sum | akaWolf verify your iso and installation media using this09:35
ubottuakaWolf verify your iso and installation media using this: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows09:35
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historegexks_: ask in #freenode or #help09:36
Wellark_akaWolf: whoa.. that's bad09:40
Wellark_akaWolf: are you able to load the older kernels?09:40
elkySometimes when i wipe something off my trackpad, unity swaps between stuff and then the launcher bar refuses to hide afterwards. It's still showing as being set to autohide in ccsm. How can I get it to hide again?09:41
andybrineCan anyone help at all. Im trying to install virtualbox on my laptop and im having problems running it09:41
Wellark_andybrine: what's the problem?09:41
andybrineWellark_ it keeps coming up with lease reinstall the kernel module by executing /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup09:42
Wellark_akaWolf: did you see that after a normal update or are you running a live cd/usb or did you install a custom kernel?09:42
andybrinewhen i run that is says the kernal cannot be found09:43
Wellark_andybrine: which ubuntu version? did you install virtualbox using apt-get (or software center) or  are you running with packages from virtualbox.org or a manual installation?09:44
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andybrinei installed it from the ppa through synaptic manager09:45
Wellarkandybrine: virtualbox.org ppa?09:45
andybrineyeah, it was this one deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian raring09:45
Wellarkandybrine: ok, so your virtualbox stops working after kernel updates on the host machine and running /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup fixes it?09:46
michoo_hello there can i find here any help to make my wifi work09:47
michoo_???09:47
andybrineI have run that comand and it returns "kernel 3.8.0-26-generic cannot be found"09:47
varunendra!details | michoo_09:48
ubottumichoo_: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."09:48
blazemoreandybrine: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)09:48
michoo_i have xubuntu 13.04 and wen i run lspci i cant find my wifi and i try lsusb same09:49
Techman!help09:49
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience09:49
michoo_i have pavilion tx20009:49
Wellarkandybrine: yes, make sure you have linux-headers and dkms installed09:49
Techman!patience09:49
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/09:49
TechmanHmm09:50
TechmanCute bot09:50
blazemore!ot | Techman that's not all it can do09:50
ubottuTechman that's not all it can do: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!09:50
TechmanOk okay that's ot I get it09:50
Wellarkandybrine: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic dkms09:51
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andybrineit says they are the newest version09:51
varunendramichoo_, is it an internal wifi card? Can you give us the pastebin links of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net" and "lsusb" ?09:51
andybrineis it worth uninstalling and then reinstalling?09:52
bekksandybrine: Whats the output of uname -a ?09:53
bekksandybrine: And no. This is not windows. So it is pointless to uninstall and reinstall.09:53
Sarger001Ubuntu 13.10 is being kinda sluggish, I'm getting kinda worried about the speed of the final release.09:53
utfans05uname09:54
andybrineuname09:54
bekksandybrine: No. "uname -a"09:54
andybrineLinux andybrine-K54C 3.8.0-26-generic #38-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 17 21:43:33 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux09:54
cfhowlettSarger001, it's currently at Alpha 1 release .. what'd you expect?09:55
andybrineyeah i was put it in the wrong box for a sec09:55
cfhowlett!saucy|Sarger001,09:55
ubottuSarger001,: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+109:55
Sarger001Okey09:55
xormorLinux laptoppi-HP-G62-Notebook-PC 3.8.0-26-generic #38-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 17 21:46:08 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux09:56
michoo_yes its internal   oot@michoo:/home/michoo# lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net09:56
michoo_00:14.0 Bridge [0680]: NVIDIA Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller [10de:0269] (rev a3)09:56
michoo_Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:30e5]09:56
michoo_Kernel driver in use: forcedeth09:56
sh_ahmedHey guys,09:56
sh_ahmedEverytime I boot up, I'm shown this error message, don't know its meaning though09:57
sh_ahmed[11099.256048] usb 5-2: device descriptor read/64, error -7109:57
sh_ahmed[11099.480042] usb 5-2: device descriptor read/64, error -7109:57
sh_ahmed[11099.696041] usb 5-2: new full-speed USB device number 24 using uhci_hcd09:57
sh_ahmed[11099.816069] usb 5-2: device descriptor read/64, error -7109:57
sh_ahmed[11100.040039] usb 5-2: device descriptor read/64, error -7109:57
sh_ahmed[11100.256043] usb 5-2: new full-speed USB device number 25 using uhci_hcd09:57
sh_ahmed[11100.664051] usb 5-2: device not accepting address 25, error -7109:57
sh_ahmed[11100.776050] usb 5-2: new full-speed USB device number 26 using uhci_hcd09:57
sh_ahmed[11101.184050] usb 5-2: device not accepting address 26, error -7109:57
varunendra!pastebin09:57
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.09:57
sh_ahmedsorry09:57
cfhowlettsh_ahmed, dude!  learn how to paste, please!09:57
sh_ahmedI'm quite new to this, sorry09:57
michoo_root@michoo:/home/michoo# lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net09:57
michoo_00:14.0 Bridge [0680]: NVIDIA Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller [10de:0269] (rev a3)09:57
michoo_Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:30e5]09:57
michoo_Kernel driver in use: forcedeth09:57
michoo_root@michoo:/home/michoo# lsusb09:57
michoo_Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04b4:6560 Cypress Semiconductor Corp. CY7C65640 USB-2.0 "TetraHub"09:57
michoo_Bus 002 Device 002: ID 03f0:171d Hewlett-Packard Bluetooth 2.0 Interface [Broadcom BCM2045]09:57
michoo_Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub09:57
michoo_Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub09:57
michoo_Bus 001 Device 004: ID 064e:a110 Suyin Corp. HP Webcam09:57
bekksmichoo_: Use a pastebin!09:57
michoo_Bus 001 Device 005: ID 08ff:1600 AuthenTec, Inc. AES160009:57
varunendra!pastebin | michoo_09:57
ubottumichoo_: please see above09:57
michoo_Bus 001 Device 006: ID 056a:0093 Wacom Co., Ltd TPC9309:57
michoo_what is pastebin09:58
andybrinewhats strange is that I have never had a problem with virtualbox for ubuntu and now its not working at all09:58
bekksandybrine: Which vbox version do you have?09:58
michoo_!pastebin | michoo_09:58
ubottumichoo_, please see my private message09:58
sh_ahmedhttp://pastebin.com/0UGrrvDN09:58
TechmanI was about say09:58
Tm_Tmichoo_: a service where you can paste large amounts of text without flooding channels the way you just did09:58
TechmanI think there was a !pastebin command09:58
Tm_TTechman: it was triggered earlier already09:59
Tm_T!pastbinit | michoo_09:59
Tm_T!pastebinit | michoo_09:59
ubottumichoo_: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com09:59
andybrineI have the latest vbox 4.209:59
sh_ahmedAny idea about that guys?09:59
bekksandybrine: From virtualbox.org?09:59
andybrineyeah09:59
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JohnathonDoe!pastebin | JohnathonDoe10:00
ubottuJohnathonDoe, please see my private message10:00
zhekahi here guyz10:01
zhekai have an trouble with wubi installer10:01
CRC43where are the ~/Music ~/Videos  ..etc... icons stored?10:02
zhekahello anyone here can help me?10:03
michoo_http://pastebin.com/qaQZgQiL10:04
sh_ahmedubottu, please pm me how to use the command !pastebin (if there is such a command)10:04
ubottush_ahmed: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:04
michoo_sh_ahmed pastebin.com its a website10:04
xcaliburHI, can somebody tell me how to completly reinstall apache (inculding the /etc/apache direcotry)?10:05
Wellarkandybrine: what does "$ sudo dkms status" tell you?10:05
sh_ahmedmichoo_, I know, I thought there must be some commad10:05
sh_ahmedmichoo_, command10:05
akaWolfWellark: I install Ubuntu 13.04 from live-USB10:06
andybrinesudo dkms status10:06
andybrinevboxhost, 4.2.16: added10:06
andybrinevirtualbox-guest, 4.2.10, 3.8.0-19-generic, x86_64: installed10:06
akaWolfWellark: and I've got this error..10:06
zhekaguyz i cant start wubi10:06
sh_ahmed!pastebin | sh_ahmed10:06
ubottush_ahmed, please see my private message10:06
akaWolfWellark: after restart10:06
akaWolfubottu: md5 ok10:06
bekksandybrine: Those guest additions will not work. Install the "official" ones, as shipped with vbox.10:06
michoo_sh_ahmed no such command just open pastbin.com and past your result there10:07
sh_ahmedmichoo_: okay,10:07
akaWolfhisto: with md5 checksum all Ok10:07
sh_ahmedthanks10:07
CRC43Hello, Where are the Music/Videos/ ...etc , icons stored?10:07
zhekaguyz help me start wubi10:08
varunendramichoo_, was that all the output? There is no wireless adapter in those outputs. Are you sure you have one?10:08
Wellarkandybrine: try runnin: sudo dkms autoinstall10:08
sh_ahmedPART #ubuntu "Going for fishing"10:08
akaWolfI try to chroot to my partition with Ubuntu from Live -- work10:08
andybrineit keeps saying your kernal headers cannot be found10:09
michoo_yes im sure and its on from the bios and from the switch10:09
Wellarkandybrine: and remove any -guest packages you have installed on your host10:09
Wellarkyour host machine running virtualbox does not need the guest drivers10:09
akaWolfand I try type init=/bin/bash -- doesn't work10:09
akaWolfWellark: can you help me?10:10
WellarkakaWolf: sorry, I can't help you :(10:10
akaWolfWellark: ok, thanks10:10
WellarkakaWolf: seems that something has gone horribly wrong with the installation10:10
WellarkakaWolf: I would only suggest to try to reinstall10:11
andybrineok im just removing all the guest packages now10:11
icerootakaWolf: sudo chroot /path/to/mounted/slash-directory(   should work10:11
WellarkakaWolf: also, I would run memcheck just to be sure10:11
akaWolficeroot: it's work10:11
akaWolfWellark: memory ok )10:11
andybrineits still unable to locate the kernal packages10:12
Wellarkandybrine: can you give the full output of the dkms message (if it's more than 2 lines, please use pastebin)10:12
akaWolfif i true understand, the kernel can not read /sbin/init and execute it10:12
zhekahi guyz10:13
akaWolfcan everyone help me?10:13
holy_rainHi all, in 13.04, I have a strange problem, my kernel panics after disconnecting bluetooth DUN connection10:13
zhekai need some help too? wubi not starting10:13
andybrinehere is the pastebin http://pastebin.com/WJ1eUHfu10:13
akaWolfm?10:14
holy_rainA quick search reveals that the bug is already reported.10:14
Wellarkandybrine: could you paste "ls -1 /boot/" also to pastebin?10:15
zhekahello anyone can help me then?10:15
Okitainholy_rain: Confirm it still. It helps prioritizing the bug among others.10:16
andybrinehere is the pastbin for the previosu command http://pastebin.com/tfthGDVj10:16
holy_rainhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/116543310:16
ubottuUbuntu bug 1165433 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel 3.8.x panics on bluetooth DUN disconnect" [High,Confirmed]10:16
kellyhi guys10:18
kellyhow can i change username in ubuntu ?10:18
andybrinethanks for all your help guys10:19
andybrinei may just have to give upo10:19
andybrineits soo frustrating and im going to try vmware if i can find a good download for that10:20
Wellarkandybrine: what does apt-cache show linux-headers-generic tell you+10:21
andybrinesudo apt-cache10:21
Wellarkandybrine: just this one thing :)10:21
andybrinecheers10:21
andybrinewhat do i need to run to get this output?10:22
Wellark$ apt-cache show linux-headers-generic10:22
zhekahi guyz10:22
zhekawho can help me with wubi installer10:23
andybrineHere is the output http://pastebin.com/9EgqMzbQ10:24
vnc786i am on ubuntu 12.04 64 bit i have second hdd attach as /dev/sdb2 in which i deleted by mistakenly a folder of 1.2 gb  i have install scalpel but in conf file i am not able to find settings related to folder10:24
k1lzheka: wubi is hard to support most suggest a real install. but if you give more details people can have a look10:24
Wellarkandybrine: ok, this is weird10:24
Wellarkandybrine: it says Depends: linux-headers-3.8.0-19-generic10:24
Wellarkand you are running -2610:25
andybrineyeah10:25
Wellarkandybrine: seems something is out of sync10:25
andybrinevery strange10:25
Wellarkbut that also explains why the dkms build fails10:25
andybrinei have a sandybridge processor10:25
andybrineapparently this causes some issues10:25
k1lzheka: no support via pm. keep it in this channel here10:25
Wellarkandybrine: how about: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"10:26
andybrinethough i wouldnt of thought it would at all tbh10:26
andybrinenothing to upgrade or install there10:26
andybrinelol10:26
Wellarkandybrine: ok, try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"10:26
zhekachecked logs at %temp% wubi won`t lookup prev donwloaded iso10:27
andybrinestill nothing10:27
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andybrine do you know where i can download a good copy of vmware10:28
andybrineor is that likely to cause the same issue?10:28
ampelbein_andybrine: What is the output of "apt-cache policy linux-generic"?10:28
vnc786please advise me what option should i opt to recover data Testdisk(which says: to recover partition ) or scalpel10:29
kingbeastis this anti-bot message going to pop up every time I join now?10:29
vnc786i have just deleted a folder in my secondary hard drive ....10:29
Wellarkandybrine, ampelbein_: hmm.. seems that raring-updates does not include linux-headers-generic10:29
andybrinehere is the pastebin http://pastebin.com/80Z9brVV10:30
quibquobrecently installed drivers for my HD 7750, now my screen has a "AMD testing use only" icon in the bottom right of the screen which never goes away, and there's also now a black border an inch or two wide around the screen.10:30
andybrinedamn this is frustrating, without that right headers im still unable to install vmware10:35
ampelbein_andybrine: that's weird. Do you have raring-updates enabled? What does "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" say?10:36
cfhowlettquibquob, I'd say your drivers are suspect ...10:36
andybrineHere is thge output if that helps10:37
andybrinehttp://pastebin.com/QKxbjg8710:37
bekksandybrine: Whats the entire output of sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; dpkg -l | grep linux-image; dpkg -l | grep header10:38
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varunendrabekks, slightly better - dpkg -l | egrep 'linux-image|header'10:40
bekksvarunendra: Yeah :)10:40
elkymy unity launcher is set to autohide but it seems to have got stuck unhidden. how can i make it autohide again? it's covering stuff up :(10:40
Ampelbeinandybrine: You have the latest kernel from -updates installed, but apt seems to not consider the -updates pocket for upgrades.10:41
akaWolfhm (10:41
akaWolfI reinstall ubuntu10:41
akaWolfand I've got "Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel."10:42
Ampelbeinandybrine: "apt-cache policy linux-image-generic" - can you post the output of that command?10:42
andybrineHere is the full output bekks http://pastebin.com/t7AR26sN10:42
bekksandybrine: You do not have the matching headers for your running kernel installed.10:43
bekksandybrine: Which command did you use to try to install them?10:43
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andybrineim not sure to be honest10:44
Wellarkbekks: I instructed him to simply install linux-headers-generic10:44
Ampelbeinbekks: linux-image-generic and linux-headers-generic are built from the same source package (linux-meta), yet they show in different versions in that output.10:44
Wellarkbut for some reason linux-headers-generic is not coming from raring-updates10:44
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Ampelbeinandybrine: And from the apt-get update output it is clear that -updates is not enabled.10:45
WellarkAmpelbein: indeed. and nor is security10:45
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Wellarkandybrine: have you modified your /etc/apt/sources.list manually? you seem to be missing vital default repositories f10:46
varunendraandybrine, what does "apt-cache show linux-headers-generic | grep -i version" show ?10:46
andybrineapologies the updates were off for some reason10:46
andybrinelol10:46
Ampelbeinandybrine: yeah, and that is your problem right there ;-)10:46
andybrinelol let me update again10:46
Ampelbeinandybrine: since you installed the kernel package from updates, then disabled updates.10:46
andybrinethink i switched that odd a while ago not putting them back on10:47
AmpelbeinSo the header package is in wrong version. When you enable updates and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade you will have the correct headers.10:47
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andybrineok, updates are installing10:48
andybrinelol10:48
PaintBucketclosed the wrong one..10:48
andybrinethis will work perfectly shrotly im sure10:48
andybrinethats for all your help everyone10:48
Wellarkandybrine: np. :)10:48
WellarkI just hope you get your virtualbox running again10:49
aashu_dwivedii am trying to install webcamstudio but my software center keeps crashing10:49
aashu_dwivediwhat should i do ?10:49
andybrinesame here :)10:49
TheeMahnI wrote software Friday that is going to destroy Microslop, I am thinking take down Ubuntu as well.  I have been looking into not copywriting it, but patenting it.  How would you feel if I yanked a rug out from beneath you cozy feet?10:49
andybrinei only need to install one software package on windows10:50
andybrinelol10:50
AmpelbeinTheeMahn: What?10:50
aashu_dwivediwebcamstudio site has listed the link https://launchpad.net/~webcamstudio/+archive/webcamstudio-stable as ppa10:50
TheeMahnhttp://repostorm.com/10:50
aashu_dwivedibut i am not sure how to add this ppa10:50
Ampelbeinandybrine: If your system wouldn't have been misconfigured by the systems administrator, it would have been only one package in ubuntu as well.10:50
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andybrineyeah10:51
andybrineim the only one using this machine and so that was all me that did that10:51
andybrinelol10:51
varunendraelky, did you solve your unity launcher issue?10:51
Matthew_MooreNeed some help with Ubuntu 13.04.  i tried to Install Team veiwer and when i try to open it i get an error.  " can't verify proram version " never had a problem with team veiwer before. got any ideas?10:51
elkyvarunendra: it seems to have righted itself :-/10:51
TheeMahnclick on the blue link and download the pdf and begin to say how10:52
varunendra:P10:52
elkyTheeMahn: stop spamming10:52
TheeMahnFirst of all I am not a spammer10:52
elkyYes, yes you are.10:52
TheeMahnI am a operating system architect & leading programmer of Ultimate Edition Linux10:53
varunendraelky, Sometimes I have to reset the Unity profile to default using ccsm to fix such issues. But I have exported the current profile to a file to load again.10:53
WellarkTheeMahn: so what is your problem with ubuntu you need help with?10:54
TheeMahnI need no help,10:54
kingbeastTheeMahn, then why are you in here?10:54
elkyvarunendra: i did unity --reset but as i hit enter i noticed that it was fixed. maybe the alt key to bring up the run command thingy unstuck it10:54
TheeMahnMy software fixes every problem you have10:54
WellarkTheeMahn: then please stop pasting links that are not relevant to a problem with ubuntu.10:54
WellarkTheeMahn: see /topic.10:55
varunendraelky, lol..!10:55
djatakkThat floodbot thing is weird...10:55
PaintBucketIt's kinda nice.10:56
PaintBucketI -hate- spam.10:56
James0ris this chan for Ubuntu chat or help or both?10:56
kingbeastJames0r, help10:56
MonkeyDustwas my password visible to the channel?10:57
elkyJames0r: help. chat about ubuntu is in #ubuntu-discuss, completely offtopic stuff is in #ubuntu-offtopic10:57
kingbeastMonkeyDust, no10:57
James0rkingbeast, thx. Can anyone help me add a printer in Lubuntu 13.04?10:57
PaintBucketI'm just kind of hanging out, learning.10:57
kingbeastJames0r, we can try, let's start out with a brand model number for the printer10:58
James0rkingbeast: oh it's actually not a physical printer. I just installed the cups-pdf package and i'm trying to set it up10:58
andybrinei have just run vboxdrv setup again and it stil cannot find headers10:59
andybrinedamn it10:59
kingbeastJames0r, might be someone else in here that can help you with that, I have zero experience on that10:59
James0rkingbeast: trying to follow an Ubuntu tutorial but it's not matching up with my Lubuntu release11:00
James0rkingbeast: k cool. i'll hang out11:00
clemdu57Hi !11:00
clemdu57I'm new on ubuntu, i want leave windows do you can help me ?11:01
k1l!details | clemdu5711:01
ubottuclemdu57: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."11:01
clemdu57(i'm french, so exuse my language)11:01
MathisenJames0r, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18886011:01
Wellarkandybrine: please provide the full output of sudo apt-get update11:02
James0rMathisen: thx. I'm looking at that right now though, not really matching up with what i'm seeing in Lubuntu11:02
Wellarkandybrine: some of your packages might be out of sync11:02
clemdu57I'm living in Italy, and where I live, this is no ADSL.11:02
Wellarkandybrine: as you had disabled the -updates11:02
clemdu57I use a 3G Key11:02
James0runder my 'Printing' settings it is looking for network printers it looks like11:02
FloodBot1!netsplit11:02
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit11:02
clemdu57Do it's compatible with ubuntu 13.04 ??11:02
James0rscratch that i think i found it11:03
James0rthx y'all11:03
Wellarkandybrine: and after apt-get update, please provide output of "apt-cache show linux-headers-generic"11:03
clemdu57please11:03
andybrineall of the updates have worked now11:03
kingbeastJames0r, hope it works for you11:03
clemdu57do the WIND 3G Key is compatible ?11:03
k1lclemdu57: we have a frensh and italian support, too.11:03
bekksandybrine: Now check the version of the install linuex headers again.11:04
clemdu57where ?11:04
auronandace!fr | clemdu5711:04
ubottuclemdu57: Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.11:04
kingbeastclemdu57, #ubuntu-fr11:04
arunpyasihi guys i am having a problem with software-properties-gtk11:05
andybrinehere is the output from apt-get cache http://pastebin.com/39kuBg7b11:05
Wellarkandybrine: what does $ sudo dkms status say?11:08
andybrineyeah, im just updating them now11:08
arunpyasiguys i am building my own distro, but the software-properties-gtk doesn't work11:08
bekksandybrine: Whats the output of "sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup"?11:08
andybrinejust a moment, im just installing the updates11:09
auronandacearunpyasi: if you are not running ubuntu we can't help you, we only support ubuntu here, perhaps ##linux can help you with your own distro11:10
andybrinevirtualbox setup worked!!11:10
andybrinelol11:10
andybrinebrilliant11:10
Wellarkandybrine: great11:10
Wellarkandybrine: in the future, please, don't disable -updates11:11
Wellarkyou will get in to trouble ;)11:11
andybrinelol, i wont. I think i did that when i had a few previous issues11:11
arunpyasiman i need the help from ubuntu11:11
andybrinethanks for all your help11:11
andybrineit was awesome11:11
arunpyasiauronandace: i am using ubuntu11:12
andybrineit took some time but well worth it11:12
PaintBuckethmm11:14
PaintBucketturns out i do have a problem11:14
PaintBucketAudio and video are skipping again. I just did a fresh install of 13.04 and updated.11:14
PaintBucketI had this problem the first time around with 13.04 but, I thought an update fixed it as it went away.11:15
PaintBucketof course, I ripped out pulseaudio and found out it's not the culprit last time and ended up reinstalling it.11:15
meethow can I share files between two ubuntu computers. I installed samba on both and tried sharing from the right click menu. The folder does show up in the other computer but I am able to access folders within that folder. I get access denied message. How to share the whole folder along wtih subfolders?11:16
MonkeyDustmeet  do you want a GUI or in in the terminal? if you want a GUI, there's gigolo11:17
meetMonkeyDust, I would prefer gui. Should i install gigolo?11:18
MonkeyDustmeet  yes, it's basic, but try it11:18
PaintBucketany ideas on what could be causing this skipping with audio. It happens with youtube and rhythmbox11:19
OerHeksPaintBucket, sounds like you have not installed restricted extra's for codecs, tools, webplugins and fonts11:20
PaintBuckethmm, I thought I did. It doesn't skip nonstop. It's just every few moment's it'll skip like a scratched cd.11:21
PaintBucketi guess I hadn't. Thanks, installing it now.11:23
quibquobguys how can i put  ubuntu onto a usb?\11:24
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mathfreakquibquob: I use the Startup Disk Creator11:25
meetMonkeyDust, I tried the ssh thing. I have thunar on one of the machines. I could not find a connect to server option in there. So installed nautilus. But is there any way I can setup a shortcut so that i can acces it in one click.11:26
meetsorry i was not clear. How do I setup a shortcut for the network machine, instead of putting in the ip address, port number and username and passwd everytime.11:27
MonkeyDustmeet  if you want a ssh connection, use a rsa-key11:27
blazemoremeet: If it's just between two Ubuntu machines you should probably use Nautilus - Yes you can access it in one click from Nautilus's "Connect to Server" if you tick the checkbox saying "Add as bookmark" or similar11:29
varunendra!usb | ripplebit11:29
ubotturipplebit: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent11:29
michoo_hello there11:29
blazemoremeet: Should probably use ssh* rather11:29
michoo_pls can any one help me with my wifi11:29
blazemoremichoo_: No. YOu were in here yesterday asking the same thing, people helped you and you just ignored them11:30
varunendramichoo_, the BIOS reset didn't help?11:30
topsyHello! I need help. I have Win 7 laptop, which i turned into a dual-boot machine with Ubuntu 12.04. After that, I shrank my C-drive from within Windows and createda new partition with thespace freed up. Then when I tried to restart, booting failed. I kept getting a black terminal screen with two lines: 'error: unknown filesystem' and 'grub rescue'. Please help!!11:31
meetblazemore, ya I have two ubuntu machines. Maybe I missed the bookmark option.11:32
michoo_varunendra: no11:32
MonkeyDustmeet  http://lani78.wordpress.com/2012/07/21/generate-a-ssh-key-and-disable-password-authentication-on-ubuntu-server-12-0/11:32
PaintBucketOkay, now to play something else11:32
varunendramichoo_, if neither lspci nor lsusb show your wifi adapter, then it may be a hardware problem. If you are dualbooting with windows, check if it is working there. Else, check physical connection of your card.11:34
PaintBucketNope, that wasn't it unfortunately.11:34
PaintBucketstill skips11:34
michoo_varunendra, i have dual booting and its work in win811:35
asoka_i have dual booting too, and its work11:36
varunendramichoo_, then I have no further ideas. Maybe try 'Restart' instead of shutdown in win8 while the card is active, then boot into ubuntu and see if the card is recognised. I can't think why it won't show up though.11:37
OerHeksmichoo_, win8 and fastboot causes lots of issues11:37
asoka_try to disable fastboot11:37
meetblazemore, there is option to bookmark it.11:38
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blazemoretypical, meet ... there used to be. Ubuntu seems to be experiencing the opposite of feature-creep :P I'm not on Ubuntu currently but hopefully someone else can help you get that functionality back11:38
PaintBucketDo I need a reboot after installing the restricted files?11:39
meetwhat is it called anyway? symbolic link?11:39
michoo_i did and i make a fresh installation  of ubuntu from live cd and now there is no dual booting there only xubuntu 13.0411:39
meetblazemore, what is it called anyway? symbolic link?11:39
henrikcHi guys! Having some issues with my server, can't get the network working. I receive an IP address, but I can't reach the outside internet. It's not behind any firewalls nor routers, and the cable is OK - it worked perfectly with another computer.11:40
michoo_and i try ubuntu 12.04 from live cd without installation its work the problem with xubuntu13.0411:40
OerHekshenrikc, might be your provider, who registered your MAC adress from your network device, try to reset that, contact your provider for the howto11:41
henrikcI've tried using both DHCP and static IP, but to no avail - I simply can't get it to reach the outside internet. I do, however, receive an IP address. After manually changing the MAC address, I received another IP address, but that didn't help either.11:42
OerHekshenrikc, or clone the MAC from the computer that works.11:42
varunendramichoo_, boot with 12.04 live cd then, and give us the pastebin link to the outputs of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net" and "lsusb"11:44
michoo_okk11:44
henrikcOerHeks: Thanks! I changed my MAC address again, to one I know works - still having the same issues. I receive an IP address, I'm able to ping it from the outside, but whenever I try to go from the server to the internet, it fails. Can't SSH in either, even though sshd is running.11:47
Ampelbeinhenrikc: Can you pastebin the output of "ifconfig"?11:49
OerHekshenrikc, you said you have no router, so how many machines and what way do you connect them??11:49
thejollygrimreaphow do you reset a serial port in crunchbang ?11:49
akaWolfhello! can everyone help me? I've install Ubuntu 13.04 and got error: "Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel."11:50
PaintBucketany other ideas what could be causing this skipping/stuttering?11:50
OerHeksthejollygrimreap, ask in the crunchbang irc channel?11:50
thejollygrimreapdidn't know there was one ...11:50
henrikcAmpelbein: Sure! http://pastie.org/8158414 - did manage to SSH in, for some reason. Not sure why it finally orked.11:51
varunendra!crunchbang | thejollygrimreap11:51
ubottuthejollygrimreap: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), kali-linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)11:51
henrikcOerHeks: I have a switch directly connected to the outlet, and then the server, a router and IP telephone are all connected to the switch11:51
akaWolfI can not resolve my problem11:51
thejollygrimreapthankx11:51
henrikcRight now I'm writing on my Mac, connected to the wireless router, so my connection is fine!11:51
Ampelbeinhenrikc: That looks good. If you can ssh into the machine, you should be able to connect from it to the outside world.11:52
akaWolfplease, can everyone help me?11:52
Ampelbeinhenrikc: Does "ping 4.2.2.2" work? How about "ping b.resolvers.Level3.net"?11:53
henrikcAmpelbein: Yeah, that's what I figured. Might be something messed up in the config files, can't SSH out of it to another server again.11:53
BluesKajHowdy folks11:54
PaintBuckethi blues11:54
blazemoreakaWolf: Did you check the integrity of the disk image before you installed? That sounds like either a bad download, or a bad disk burn to me11:54
igw3any nmao ninja's here11:54
blazemoreask the real question, igw311:55
igw3trying to do a scan for a very big host...how do i go abt it as it is too big...11:55
Ampelbeinhenrikc: What error do you get when trying to ssh? Just a regular timeout?11:55
henrikcAmpelbein: No luck pinging - 100% packet loss to 4.2.2.2, no response on b3 either.11:55
akaWolfblazemore: I check my download ISO -- it's ok11:55
blazemoreigw3: nmap?11:56
igw3yea11:56
blazemoreigw3: What do you mean by a "big" host?11:56
igw3long host range like 4000 hosts...11:56
igw3kidda overwh3mling11:56
blazemoreigw3: YOu just have to wait for it to finish...11:56
Dalek-Caanblazemore, nimdAHK_ , Hey! I am here again, still the same problem though :(11:56
Dalek-CaanStill unable to mount one of my harddisks and I get this error; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5893808/11:57
akaWolfblazemore: and I check "burn" to the flash -- after boot from this drive, Ubuntu offer similar check11:57
henrikcAmpelbein: Resolving failure. ssh: Could not resolve hostname badne6.ux.uis.no: Temporary failure in name resolution11:57
igw3blazemore: alrite thank was wondering if there was something to make it faster i guess i have to put on ma patience cap :)11:57
blazemoreDalek-Caan: Have you tried chkdsk on that drive from Windows?11:58
Dalek-CaanI can not seem to get chkdsk to work, blazemore , Windows sees the drive as a RAW station that has to be formatted now :(11:58
blazemoreigw3: http://www.professormesser.com/nmap/how-to-supercharge-your-nmap-scans might be of interest to you11:58
Ampelbeinhenrikc: ok. the earlier try with "4.2.2.2" should have worked, unless your network doesn't route icmp packages. (unlikely) So it isn't a name server problem.11:58
Ampelbeinhenrikc: just to make sure: From the mac you can "ping 4.2.2.2"?11:58
blazemoreDalek-Caan: That sounds pretty broken to be quite honest. Sure it wasn't set up as part of a RAID array?11:58
akaWolfblazemore: I try to reinstall Ubuntu, but this not help to me11:58
blazemoreakaWolf: Before you install, there's an option on the CD's boot menu to check the integrity of the installation medium, did you try that?11:59
igw3thanks, blazemore11:59
akaWolfblazemore: yes11:59
henrikcYup Ampelbein, no issues at all pinging from the Mac. I tried SSH-ing to my VPS, using it's IP address. That gives me a timeout. Works fine from the Mac.11:59
Dalek-CaanNo, I am 100% sure. Is there a way to check some logs of Ubuntu and see if there are any hardware related errors? Sometimes at start up it will show me a real quick error flow before this PC boots, blazemore11:59
Dalek-Caan*start-up12:00
blazemoreDalek-Caan: There's data on that disk which doesn't exist anywhere else?12:00
Dalek-CaanThat is correct, I'm afraid.12:00
Ampelbeinhenrikc: What does "route -n" say? Maybe ifup doesn't set the routes correctly.12:01
blazemoreSO before I recommend testdisk, just to clarify Dalek-Caan as far as you know it is just a normal NTFS partition which used to work?12:01
henrikcAmpelbein: http://pastie.org/815843812:01
Dalek-CaanYes, it has always been a NTFS, non-raided disk.12:01
blazemoreDalek-Caan: YOu should lo into using a prgram called TestDisk to recover the NTFS MFT12:04
Ampelbeinhenrikc: That looks ok as well. I'm out of ideas, to be honest. Do you have any kind of firewall installed on that server? (sudo iptables -L should have 3x ACCEPT)12:05
akaWolfblazemore: can you help me?12:05
Dalek-CaanOkay, this is  a program that I can freely download, I suppose, blazemore ?12:05
henrikcAmpelbein: has ACCEPT on both INPUT, FORWARD and OUTPUT.12:06
henrikcThanks for your help though! I really appreciate it.12:06
henrikcI might just have to reinstall the whole thing, might be easier. :p12:06
Dalek-CaanOkay, I am installing it now, blazemore12:06
hxrhow can I set up an account to autologin via gui from ssh12:06
Ampelbeinhenrikc: You could try that, yes. Sorry I couldn't be of more help, good luck with a reinstall ;-)12:07
hxrthe reason is I have 30 users on this machine, with xubuntu  gui the list is to long to select a real user12:09
ruan_ol12:09
PaintBucketI can't figure this out at all.12:12
OerHekshxr this howto might be any help >>> http://superuser.com/questions/356316/how-do-i-disable-the-login-screen-on-xfce12:15
OerHeksedit lightdm config12:15
Dalek-Caanblazemore; I selected the harddisk in the terminal and now it asks me what partition table it is, should I put in Intel, or None?12:15
Dalek-CaanI used the command "testdisk" btw12:16
Dalek-CaanOr am I doing it all wrong now?12:16
henrikcAmpelbein: Must have been some hidden iptables rule giving me trouble, because I removed iptables, rebooted, and now it works like a charm again.12:17
Ampelbeinhenrikc: Nice.12:17
OerHeksDalek-Caan, choose the default, intel in your case, see the step-by-step >> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step12:17
hxrOerHeks⚡ ok trying that, I saw a few like this on google, but they all said use something else, i know its posible12:19
Dalek-CaanDank you, OerHeks  ;)12:19
Dalek-CaanNow running "Analyse cylinder 512/60801".. zZz, this might take a while I suppose :p12:22
Dalek-CaanIn the meanwhile I have another question for everyone here, can anyone recommend me a good way to keep an eye on the temperatures of my Hardware and maybe change fan speeds accordingly? I remember using Speedfan under Windows..12:24
OerHeks!lmsensors12:24
ubottuTo access CPU temperature sensors and detect fan speeds, install the lm-sensors package. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto for installation and usage instructions.12:24
Dalek-CaanAlso, do I need to install the drivers for my graphics card, just like under Windows? and can I use MSI's Afterburner for the gpu fan? because it is on standard now, which will probably not change the fans speed at all.12:25
Dalek-CaanThanks OerHeks !12:26
OerHeksDalek-Caan, there are also tons of conky scripts > howto > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=867076 and examples >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28186512:27
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OerHeksvideodrivers, open softwarecenter > top panel > edit > sources, last tab is restricted drivers.12:28
OerHeks(13.04)12:28
Dalek-CaanLet me see.12:28
Dalek-Caanraymond@Dalek-Caan:~$ sudo aptitude install conky curl lm-sensors hddtemp, gives me this:12:29
Dalek-Caansudo: aptitude: command not found12:30
semitoneswhat's a good open source video chat program?12:31
michoo_thank you i think the problem with my hardware12:35
michoo_i need oracle 8i for linux12:36
OerHeksDalek-Caan, aptitude is removed as standard, bacause of architecture mix issues, use apt-get12:36
hxrubuntu apache2 runing at 50% cpu?12:48
Jagst3r15Where is a good place to get my suggestion heard12:48
OerHeksJagst3r15, as brainstorm is dead, start a topic @ http://ubuntuforums.org/forum.php for new suggestions/ideas12:53
Jagst3r15OerHeks of course I will get attacked12:53
Jagst3r15I want to suggest a way to have more up to date packages in LTS releases12:53
Jagst3r15and please just dont say if you want a more up to date package use a non-lts12:53
Jagst3r15ubuntu is a big project we should try to keep packages up to date in LTS releases too12:54
Myrttibackports12:54
OerHeksJagst3r15, that is the only correct answer. sorry if that does not suite you12:54
Jagst3r15backports suck12:54
icaunusis there a shortcut, like pressing ctrl+F2 or something, on the default ubuntu desktop that lets you run an app? I want to run xterm12:54
Jagst3r15OerHeks it is making me consider going to windows again lol12:54
OerHeksicaunus, alt +f2 opens a dialog to start any application you want12:55
cfhowlettJagst3r15, "we" ... so you're volunteering to help?12:55
Jagst3r15I could help yes12:56
Jagst3r15but what sthe point if no one else does12:56
DJ_MuTeDI need some help12:56
icaunus@ OerHeks thanks, that worked for me12:56
DJ_MuTeDWell I have a laptop running Windows 8 by default with UEFI12:56
DJ_MuTeDI installed ubuntu 13.04 on 2nd partition12:56
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DJ_MuTeDHow can i disable secure boot while windows 8 wont boot?12:57
DJ_MuTeDanyone?12:57
Dalek-Caan!patience | DJ_MuTeD12:58
ubottuDJ_MuTeD: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/12:58
OerHeksDJ_MuTeD, most likely in your bios12:59
DJ_MuTeDHow can I get to BIOS settings?12:59
DJ_MuTeDSince it boots directly to grub12:59
DJ_MuTeDwhich doesnt work12:59
OerHeksDJ_MuTeD, check the manual from your vendor12:59
tucemiuxDJ_MuTeD, it depends on your machine, try clicking DEL, F8, F10, or F1 key whn machine is booting up13:00
varunendra!uefi | DJ_MuTeD13:00
ubottuDJ_MuTeD: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI13:00
cfhowlettDJ_MuTeD, it doesn't boot directly to grub.  it goes trhrough power on/self test first, i.e. it looks at bios ...13:00
OerHekscfhowlett, maybe fastboot skips that part, i heard funny stuff about fastboot13:01
DJ_MuTeDwell, when the grub boots it shows some bessages like /EFI/Microsoft not found or something like that13:01
DJ_MuTeDI used boot-repair before13:01
DJ_MuTeDSince then it doesnt boot windows13:01
cfhowlettOerHeks, not familiar with it but based on your info ... do not want13:01
cfhowlettDJ_MuTeD, best practice is to get your windows running right THEN set up ubuntu ...13:02
Dalek-CaanFor some reason, everytime I boot Firefox, it apologizes for not being able to start correctly.. every single time :(13:02
Jagst3r15use chromium13:02
Jagst3r15ff sucks13:02
DJ_MuTeDWindows was running fine13:03
Dalek-CaanJagst3r15; That is not an answer to the question, and it should not do that.13:03
cfhowlettDalek-Caan, start FF from a terminal and note the error messages13:03
DJ_MuTeDBut i forgot to disable secure boot before installation13:03
Dalek-Caancfhowlett; Thanks, will try that instead.13:03
Jagst3r15Dalek-Caan sorry your right13:03
exporthi all i need to know if ubuntu for android and ubuntu os is the same or if they're different?13:03
cfhowlettexport, different13:04
cfhowlett!android13:04
exportthank you can you provide any resources?13:04
Dalek-CaanIt is okay, Jagst3r15, but I don't want anything Google-alike on my system, I trust the guys from Mozilla more with my privacy, than I trust Google..13:04
cfhowlett!touch|export,13:04
ubottuexport,: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch13:04
Dalek-Caancfhowlett; It shows this in the terminal; (process:3510): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion `sys_page_size == 0' failed13:06
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cfhowlettDalek-Caan, WAY over my head but the mozilla/firefox channel would know ...13:06
Dalek-CaanMhh, will try to ask them! :D13:07
cfhowlettDalek-Caan, before you do so ...13:07
Dalek-CaanYes?  cfhowlett13:07
cfhowlettDalek-Caan, you could purge and reinstall ff13:07
Dalek-CaanI tried, but still the same error.13:07
cfhowlettDalek-Caan, also run apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade13:08
OerHeksDalek-Caan, you can try to remove the firefox folder ~/.mozilla and start firefox again13:09
Dalek-CaanLet me try those things.13:09
cfhowlettOerHeks, thought of that, but based on the error, I assume it's a system glitch, not a /user glitch.  worth a shot though13:09
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PaintBuckethello13:10
cfhowlettPaintBucket, greetings13:10
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Dalek-CaanArgh, I am 100% sure my password is correct, can't get su to work either, but it shows this:13:12
Dalek-CaanE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)13:12
Dalek-CaanE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?13:12
cfhowlettDalek-Caan, you've got an update or something running in the background ...13:12
Dalek-CaanShould not be a reason.. I updated my system an hour ago! :o but how can I assure this isn't the reason?13:13
cfhowlettDalek-Caan, if you've got auto-update on that would do it ...13:13
OerHeksonly one instance can use softwaresources, that is the error AFAIK13:14
Dalek-CaanIt already auto updated an hour ago and said I now have the latest updates.. hmm.13:14
cfhowlettOerHeks, indeed.13:14
Dalek-CaanHow to see what is using softwaresources?13:14
PaintBucketCan anyone tell me why I'm having such issues with a fresh install when the same version worked before?13:14
PaintBucketSo far I've got two issues.. wifi keeps dropping and audo/video stuttering13:14
PaintBucketThe audio/video thing did happen for a while in my old install.13:14
cfhowlettDalek-Caan, well the EZ way is to reboot ... :)13:14
PaintBucketBut, I don't remember the wifi issues being present. I'm using a belkin n300 dongle since I've always had issues with realtek's rtl8188ce chip13:14
PaintBucketsucked so hard..13:14
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FloodBot1PaintBucket: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:14
Dalek-Caancfhowlett; I just booted again.. erm, okay, let me try, brb13:15
cfhowlettDalek-Caan, but if you run a terminal with ps -x| grep apt13:15
PaintBucketI tried everything google and ubuntu forum helpers could throw at that card and nothing gave.13:15
varunendraPaintBucket, please give us your ubuntuforums thread link.13:16
PaintBuckettrying to find it13:17
PaintBucketseems i've forgotten my forum name..13:17
varunendra:)13:17
PaintBucketnvm remebered it13:17
diablo_hola13:18
cfhowlett!es|diablo_,13:18
ubottudiablo_,: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.13:18
diablo_gracias13:18
PaintBucketwhich one do you want? I had two of them going on but neither were resolved.13:19
varunendraPaintBucket, the wireless one.13:19
Dalek-CaanOkay, rebooted, cfhowlett , got this again: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5894073/13:20
cfhowlettDalek-Caan, run ps -x|grep apt      to show what process is locking13:20
OerHeksDalek-Caan, what command did you use ?13:20
PaintBuckethttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213987813:20
Dalek-Caanraymond@Dalek-Caan:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade &&apt-get dist-upgrade13:20
Dalek-Caan\13:20
Dalek-Caanwithout the backslash, sorry, stupid Dell keyboard13:21
OerHeksah, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ( 2x sudo is needed)13:21
PaintBucketthat was for the wait.. that was for packet drops that I never figured out. It's never done this before.13:22
cfhowlettOerHeks, righto!  sorry Dalek-Caan for the bad intel.13:22
Dalek-CaanOh, I see, did not know that it wouldn't accept sudo for the whole line, something new learned!13:22
Dalek-CaanIt's okay! I love to learn, cfhowlett13:22
OerHekscfhowlett, together we know all, there is no i in team ;-)13:22
cfhowlettDalek-Caan, I generally run them consecutively as shown.  if you run them sequentially then of course you use sudo both instances13:22
Campfire:))13:22
Dalek-CaanI suppose this means I don't need new updates? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5894084/13:23
cfhowlettDalek-Caan, yep means you're as up to date as you're going to be13:24
OerHeksDalek-Caan,yes, only the -d option is possible now, for development upgrade ( but you don't want that )13:25
youmeeguys, why when I shared internet over WiFi, when I trying to connect to created spot with iPhone/iPad, it asks for Username and password.13:25
youmeewhat username??? ://13:25
youmeeWEP13:25
Dalek-CaanIt shows on your Iphone/Ipad under settings, I assume, youmee ?13:26
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Dalek-CaanIf you are sharing 3G over Wifi (Or LTE/4G)13:26
youmeeDalek-Caan, when I tap on spot's name13:26
youmeeit pops up a dialog with u/p13:27
varunendraPaintBucket, that's quite an old thread. I suggest you post a new one. Things may have changed by now. For example, I know there is an updated driver released by realtek in May.13:27
youmeeDalek-Caan, I try to share internet FROM ubuntu to iPhone13:27
Dalek-CaanAh, okay, so your sentence was twisted, sorry.13:27
Dalek-CaanI am not sure how to do that, sorry.13:27
PaintBucketsorry, it dropped13:28
Dalek-Caanyoumee; A simple google would have provided you with an answer though: http://askubuntu.com/questions/60980/how-to-share-a-wired-internet-connection-via-wifi13:28
Campfireis there a a good network security room for ubuntu13:29
Campfirechannnal on irc13:29
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cfhowlett!ubuntu-server|Campfire,13:29
ubottuCampfire,: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server13:30
Campfirety13:30
Campfirenice technology i did not know13:33
icerootis it still a server-specific-kernel? imo the only difference was that server had PAE enabled by default. now the desktop is using PAE too as default13:33
varunendraPaintBucket, your latest thread in ubuntu forums was this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2146803 and post #5 in it has a solution to the compiling problem on 13.04 (not required on 12.04). Did you try it?13:34
rob____Hello13:34
rob____How do i need to install ssh?13:34
Campfiresaid no chanal for /j ubuntu-server13:35
cfhowlett!ssh|rob____,13:35
ubotturob____,: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)13:35
icerootCampfire: /join #ubuntu-server13:35
rob____!sshd13:35
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol, sshd is the server (or daemon) of SSH. For setting up the SSH server, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html . Advanced SSH uses: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Advanced . For SSH client information, see !ssh . Related: !scp (Secure CoPy)13:35
Campfireoh my bad ty13:35
sasukehi.. Can anyone tell me how to enable output of HDMI port in ubuntu 12.04. I'm using lenovo SL410.13:35
mrdebhi. is writing to ntfs save now13:36
mrdebsafe13:36
rob____How do i install it?13:36
rob____ssh doesnt exist13:36
rob____and sshd to13:36
James0r2any idea why my keyboard and mouse settings wont stick? I'm using Lubuntu 13.0413:37
rob____??13:37
Campfireubuntu-server for 12.1013:37
Campfirewelll the channal13:38
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PaintBUcketHmm. Maybe something just went wrong at install? It's so hard to tell. I wasn't hanging/dropping like this last time I installed. However, it was a while back and I installed a bunch of packages and changed some things.13:41
PaintBUcket:(13:42
oonickubuntu server is dead13:43
ThePreacher7 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off a13:43
ThePreachernd throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.13:43
PaintBUcketwhat the fuck..13:44
oonickness13:44
mrdebis ntfs writing safe now13:44
BluesKaj1language |PaintBUcket13:44
BluesKaj!language |PaintBUcket13:44
ubottuPaintBUcket: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.13:44
Dalek-CaanOkay, this conky stuff is really too confusing for me, is there a GUI temperature manager?13:45
mrdebDalek-Caan: yes13:45
BluesKajPaintBUcket, the preacher drops in every once in a while...harmless mostly13:45
Dalek-Caanmrdeb; What is it called, if you do not mind me asking?13:46
oonicki feel like i,m hacked when i see a netsplit or stuff like that is this normal13:46
k1l!netsplit > oonick13:46
ubottuoonick, please see my private message13:46
mrdebDalek-Caan: type man conky in terminal and there are few depending on gpu or cpu13:47
OerHeksDalek-Caan, System Load Indicator >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto13:47
k1lmrdeb: yes, ntfsdrivers  are stable now.13:47
mrdebk1l: ok, i did not want to mess it up13:48
oonickbuger13:49
sasukehi.. Can anyone tell me how to enable output of HDMI port in ubuntu 12.04. I'm using lenovo SL410.13:49
jesusehi.13:50
mrdebwhat command is used to test hard drive errors13:50
Dalek-CaanSeriously, is that preacher account triggered by a bot or something though?13:50
jesusejust installed ubuntu 12.0413:50
mrdebok jesuse13:50
jesuseback again to this distro, I was away for a while with windows.13:50
MonkeyDustmrdeb  fsck, but when the drive is unmounted13:50
mrdebMonkeyDust: will it tell u bad sectors13:51
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MonkeyDustmrdeb  not sure, but there's also the command  badblocks13:51
PaintBucketWell, I think I might just do an install over this install and see if it's something that got broken during the install.13:52
oonickwhats a good place to see if ubuntu will program to ram and cmos with no hdd13:52
Dalek-CaanOerHeks; When I try to start System load Indicator, it only shows an empty "About Indicator Applet Complete" bar, when I rightclick it, it will only show "About".13:53
Dalek-CaanAm I missing something?13:53
mank319Hey there :-)13:53
PaintBucketThis was kinda weird from the start now that I think about it. I remember things weren't loading properly after initial install and reboot.13:53
mank319Using 13.04 here with a dualmontor setup and i just noticed, that the option "Always on visible workspace" does not work for windows if 2 monitors are connected13:54
mank319i would love to have a fixed, separate Desktop with just one workspace on my 2nd monitor13:54
mank319but unfortunately this does not seem to be able with compiz/unity, so forcing applications on the 2nd screen to be "always on visible workspace" would feel kind of like a workaround for my situation13:55
mank319would be glad if anyone who may have experienced the same problem before may give me a hint :-)13:55
mank319xmonad  or awesomewm do not play with unity/compiz, right? that would be so awesome13:56
Dalek-CaanHow can I debug System Load Indicator? I am not sure how to run it from the terminal.13:57
mrdebMonkeyDust: i mean if hdd is 10+ yrs old14:00
oonickis there a way to convert vga to ethernet  with a monitor and use ubuntu to network 20 monitors threw lan to one pc14:01
MonkeyDustmrdeb  scroll down, point 4, is it useful http://askubuntu.com/questions/14303/how-can-i-check-my-ram-and-harddrive-for-errors14:02
oonickhow do you find out if your the cause of a netsplit14:05
bekksoonick: You will be told you were the cause ;)14:05
MonkeyDustoonick  NSA will tell you14:06
oonickcool col i,m ok14:06
clemensHello! I have ubuntu 12.04 and try to use my Creative X-FI 5.1 Soundblaster (USB), but only the 2 front speakers are working. How can i enable 5.1 surroundsound?14:11
MonkeyDustclemens  technically, it's for this channel, but i guess the people in #ubuntu-studio can help better14:12
clemensthx i'll try it :D14:13
oonickis this as world wide as it gets for irc ubuntu14:15
k1loonick: for genereal non ubuntu support chatter we have #ubuntu-offtopic14:16
oonickty again14:17
aaahdoes 13.04 have good support of SSDs?  i know this is a general question, but i'm looking to replace my laptop drive with an SSD and didn't want to spend tons on it, so was wondering a good approach with respect to Ubuntu14:18
bekksaaah: Linux supports SSD for a long time now.14:19
k1laaah: ext4 and fstab setting "discard" can handle ssds very well14:20
aaahany inexpensive options that have proven well?  linux compatibility always seems like a challenge to get out of product descriptions14:21
oonickfor ubuntu 13.04 is multicast good starting out14:21
x_Hello everyone. I need help to move pictures from my network to a central location and rename any duplicates. my old camera named everything file001 etc. any ideas?14:21
k1laaah: you dont need a linux-compatible ssd. all ssds are compatible14:22
oonickis it safe to turn off ccups in services if you don,t plan to print14:25
aaahk1l: for example, i heard of people with issues with OCZ because of how it reports the hardware and/or kernel support14:25
bekksoonick: Sure.14:25
netlark1l: Is the fstab "discard" setting for trim?14:25
oonickfrom terminal i mean14:25
bekksnetlar: Yes.14:25
netlarbekks: So if you do not set it there, there is no trim?14:26
x_Let's try it this way. Is there a way that I can search through all the computers on my network and give me a report of where all the .jpg and .JPG files are on my network? this way if i copy all those files to one place I can then go back an delete the actual picture files and leave the non-photos alone?14:26
MonkeyDu1tx_  better ask in the channel #bash, i guess14:27
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x_MonkeyDu1t: thanks14:28
OerHeksx_ "locate *.JPG" works fine, but it searches tru / too14:29
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k1lnetlar: yes14:29
* oonick like this14:30
Senan_Hi14:31
* oonick changinging nicks and adresses might take some 14:31
x_OerHeks: is there a way to tell it to say look through just the /var or /opt directories?14:31
x_OerHeks: Just as an example14:31
Senan_How do I install ati driver in ubuntu14:31
x_locate *.JPG /var?14:31
Senan_additional drivers not detecting my card in 12.04.214:32
* oonick :)14:32
Senan_but in 12.04.1 it was working fine14:32
oonickoh wow so same thing as term14:33
k1loonick: again: we have another channel for chatting: #ubuntu-offtopic .please keep this channel clear for the support14:33
samjd101hai14:35
* oonick ok that helps 14:35
samjd101/nick14:36
dwarderam i understand right that configuring postfix is easy in ubuntu, you just setup dns MT records and upon postfix installation enters this dns name, and mail sending from server works from this step14:37
dwarder?14:37
dwarderdns name == domain name14:37
icerootdwarder: yes14:37
dwardergooood :)14:37
samjd101any body else get a problem with cryptmapper not booting when updating to 13.0414:37
Senan_I am facing some issues in installing ati driver14:37
icerootdwarder: if you want to send the mail from a client with that server (as smtp) additional work is needed14:37
bekksdwarder: Its not that easy. You have to configure postfix.14:37
dwarderbekks: doesn't it provide some kind of wizard where you just enter data and it got configured?14:38
icerootdwarder: yes, that is part of dpkg/debhelper14:38
dwardericeroot: i ain't need mo :)14:38
XialI've done something dumb. I've forgotten my password on a headless machine. I can log on automatically via an nxmachine session that I set up long time ago. Before I haul a monitor out to this machine to either reset the password or completely reinstall the OS, is there a way to force a password change from within Ubuntu if you lack the password? My searching has not been fruitful in that14:38
Xialregard. Thanks for your time.14:38
samjd101[A[B14:39
icerootdwarder: but its just the basic for mta on that server, nothing with smtp/imap or something like that14:39
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dwardericeroot: i just need to send some logs from the servr14:39
dwarderserver*14:39
icerootdwarder: then just install postfix14:39
icerootXial: if you could boot the server with a live-system its easy to restore the root/userpassword14:40
icerootXial: without knowing the password you can not change it inside the running system14:40
Dr_willis_you can set a new password.  not exactly recovery the old. ;)14:40
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icerootyes of course :) with restore i mean set a new password (hash)14:41
XialThat's what I figured, iceroot. I'll have to haul a monitor out to it later, then. Thanks. :)14:41
icerootXial: boot a live-cd and chroot the system or mount the hdd and edit /etc/shadow and put in a new hash for a password you know14:41
bekksdwarder: No. You have to know what you are doing, when configuring a mail server.14:41
dwarderbekks: isn't default is safe enaugh?14:42
dwarderit the*14:42
dwarderis the*14:42
dwarderis =''14:42
dwarderenough*14:42
icerootdwarder: it is, the default is just sending mail fromn localhost14:42
icerootdwarder: its not an open-relay, so just install postfix as i said earlier14:43
theadmindwarder: No need to correct yourself so much, floods the channel, your message did make sense anyway. This ain't Reddit.14:43
bekksdwarder: Not necessarily. Even if it would be - you have to know how it is configured. Otherwise your server might turn into one of those open relay spam servers out there.14:43
dwardericeroot: i'm trying to say this to bekks14:43
dwardertheadmin: ok14:43
pero_phi guys, i searched a while and found nothing. i need to get the offset of a file in a DVD, how can i do this?14:44
MonkeyDustdwarder  if you're speaking to someone, use his nick in front of your comments14:45
pero_phi guys, i searched a while and found nothing. i need to get the offset of a file in a DVD, how can i do this?14:46
bhavinI just installed Ubuntu 12.10 on my Win 7 machine. Win 7 was on C drive and I had two other partitions D & E drive. I am unable to access them now. Is there a way to access those drives again?14:46
pero_pbhavin, you should mount them in nautilus14:47
bhavinI chose the replace Windows 7 with Ubuntu option14:47
pero_pbhavin, in the left side14:47
bekksbhavin: Then they are gone now.14:47
bhavinI'm new to ubuntu can you help me with the syntax14:47
bekksbhavin: "replace".14:47
dwarderMonkeyDust: i do?14:47
pero_pbhavin, so seems you format entire drive then14:47
bhavinall the three partitions are gone now?14:47
bekksbhavin: We dont know. You have to check that.14:48
MonkeyDustbhavin  you erased them during install14:48
pero_pbhavin, use this command in terminal : sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda14:48
pero_pbhavin, and give us the result14:48
bhavindoes choosing the replace option removes all existing partitions?14:49
dwarderMonkeyDust: where i used it wrong?14:49
bekksbhavin: Thats what "replace" means.14:49
icerootbhavin: if you choose (use entire hdd) yes14:49
MonkeyDustdwarder  used what wrong?14:49
pero_p i need to get the offset of a file in a DVD, how can i do this?14:49
dwarderMonkeyDust: wrong nickname placement14:50
pero_pbhavin, you may have a chance to recover them if you don't copy new data to your hdd14:51
MonkeyDustdwarder  had to look up to know what you mean, you said "iceroot: i'm trying to say this to bekks", now let's move on, shall we14:51
codephobichi14:51
bhavinpero_p: here's the result http://pastebin.com/81huMizT14:51
dwarderMonkeyDust: i used it right!14:52
dwarderMonkeyDust: you read it out of the context14:52
dwarderMonkeyDust: ok lets move on14:52
pero_pbhavin, so if you have only 1 hdd installed, your drives are lost14:53
pero_pbhavin, but don't worry too much, as i said, if you don't copy new data to them there is still a hope14:53
shwouchkHi14:53
shwouchkAfter a hard shutdown of the computer, emacs (24.3.1) started acting up: the pointer resizes for depending on the character I am standing on, characters don't update when deleted, only when overwritten, the pointer itself doesn't always update location (especially on whitespace), and the modeline has different widths at different places. How can I debug what is causing this?14:53
codephobicI've had a serious poweroutage and my Netgear ReadyNAS duo is no longer working - the power light and leds blink (slowly) and the fan spins fast but the device is not booting up - and as a result I've been trying to connect the 2 1TB disks to my desktop and get my work files (and personal photos) onto this machine.14:53
bhavinpero_p: is there a way to get the data back?14:54
codephobicUnfortunately, I can't seem to access either drive. They're both "LVM" drives and I haven't a clue how to get ubuntu to "see" them.14:54
bhavinpero_p: will installing Win 7 again show those partitions again?14:54
Dr_Willis!lvm14:54
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto14:54
pero_pbhavin, no, installing windows 7 again does not help14:55
erle-is there any working way to record master audio in ubuntu?14:55
Dr_Willisall i know on lvm is the urls. :() i see way to many people have issues with lvm to try it.14:55
codephobicI thought a NAS was supposed to provide a straightforward method of using the disks in the event of a failure to the actual NAS box...14:55
pero_pbhavin, but i know only some partition recovery that only run's on win714:55
pero_pbhavin, you could search the net for PARTITION RECOVERY software14:55
Dr_Williscodephobic,  was the lvm spread across both drives?14:55
codephobicDr_Willis, I'm not sure. All I know is that the 2 1TB drives were supposed to be copying the data between them, in a RAID configuration.14:56
bhavinpero_p: ok.... thanks14:56
pero_pbhavin, there is a software named "testdisk" for linux14:56
bhavinpero_p: I'll give it a shot14:57
pero_pbhavin, use it patiently!14:57
pero_pbhavin, you're welcome ;)14:57
bekkscodephobic: RAID1 does not help you when the NAS is failing It only helps you when one disk is failing.14:57
pero_pbhavin, i meant Cautious, my english is so little bad :)14:58
pero_phi guys, i searched a while and found nothing. i need to get the offset of a file in a DVD, how can i do this?14:58
bhavinpero_p: why? is there a risk of crashing my hdd?14:59
codephobicbekks, it was RAID 0 I think, mirroring or whatever. The two disks were meant to be copying data from each other, so that if one died I could use the other on its own.14:59
bekkscodephobic: RAID0 is striping14:59
pero_pbhavin, no not crash, but this software is really powerful and if you take wrong action, you maybe remove boot from a drive or etc15:00
bekkscodephobic: And that mechanism only helps ou in case a drive failure, not in case of a NAS failure.15:00
codephobicbekks, well whichever RAID does copying is the one that I have/had.15:00
pero_pbhavin, but as long as your english is better than mine, you can read helps and manuals of it, :D15:00
codephobicbekks, I realise that, but I just assumed that I could pull the drive out and install it on this desktop and try and copy/use the files that way.15:01
bekkscodephobic: Which might work, but not necessarily.15:01
pero_pi need to get the offset of a file in a DVD, how can i do this?15:01
pero_phmm seems no one here could help me, nor google :( sadly15:02
codephobicbekks, I'm surprised at that. I honestly thought these nasboxes would keep the drives compatible with linux (given that they are basically linux systems).15:02
theadminpero_p: It's no use repeating every minute, it's not like much will change. In the meantime, try asking this on askubuntu.com with as much details provided as possible.15:02
codephobicRAID 5 is mirroring, no?15:02
codephobic(I think that's the RAID setting I had on my NAS)15:03
pero_ptheadmin, thanks admin, but my friend is coming to take back his DVD from me any minute now, and i don't even advance a bit :(15:03
codephobic(ignore that, it was RAID 1 mirroring)15:03
pero_pbye everybody15:03
codephobicSo, anyone know how to access the LVM disk with ubuntu?15:03
pero_pbhavin, good luck to you ;)15:04
pentesterguyHello everybody.15:04
pentesterguyI have a certain question.15:04
pentesterguywhich might seem simple for most of you.15:04
Dr_Willishttp://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/34751/how-to-find-out-the-file-offset-of-an-opened-file15:04
pentesterguyHow can I check out my RAM?15:04
theadminpentesterguy: "check out"?15:04
Dr_Willispentesterguy,  memtest fromt he grub menu does a battery of ram tests15:05
pentesterguyHow can I know if I am running a heavy OS on a slow PC?15:05
Dr_Willis'heavy' os and 'slow pc' are relative terms.  what are you trying to determine exactly?15:05
theadminpentesterguy: Uh, well, you can see the RAM use in the "System Monitor". "free -m" will give you details, too, also see http://linuxatemyram.com15:05
pentesterguyDr_Willis, I ran BackTrack Linux, which is quite a heavy OS.15:05
pentesterguyand I'd like to know that, am I doing the right thing?15:05
pentesterguyIs BackTrack too heavy for my computer?15:06
theadminpentesterguy: Also, Backtrack is not supported here.15:06
pentesterguyI'd like to make a move to Ubuntu.15:06
Dr_Willispentesterguy,  really? I thiguth backtrack was rather light.15:06
k1lpentesterguy: backtrack is not supported in here15:06
pentesterguyDr_Willis: nope.15:06
k1l!backtrack > pentesterguy15:06
ubottupentesterguy, please see my private message15:06
pentesterguyk1l: I am making a switch to Ubuntu, and this is a Ubuntu-related question.15:06
theadminpentesterguy: Generally, Ubuntu needs about 512MB of RAM to work properly, the more the better (disk cache, yay).15:06
Dr_Willisthe OS isent heavy its all the apps its running by default.  like the defult desktop15:06
pentesterguyK1l, take a nice look at the guidelines.15:06
pentesterguyeven though you're an operator.15:06
theadminpentesterguy: If you want a lighter version, you should seriously consider Xubuntu and Lubuntu15:06
pentesterguytheadmin: Ubuntu 13.04 is 'heavy'?15:07
pentesterguy!guidelines | k1l15:07
ubottuk1l: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines15:07
theadminpentesterguy: I wouldn't say so, no.15:07
pentesterguyDo your job correctly, k1l.15:07
pentesterguyoh, theadmin.15:07
theadminpentesterguy: Definetly better than Windows in that regard, that much I can tell15:07
pentesterguyI am obsessed with xfce though.15:07
theadminpentesterguy: Oh. Then you'll love Xubuntu.15:07
Dr_Willispentesterguy,  use xubuntu then15:07
theadminpentesterguy: Which is Ubuntu+XFCE.15:07
pentesterguyoh, that's perfect!15:07
pentesterguythanks, dr_willis & theadmin.15:08
Dr_Willislightest full featured desktop would be Lubuntu15:09
theadminDr_Willis: Is LXDE really much lighter? I don't really notice any speed difference. Although there's a fairly different set of default apps.15:15
Shangriljoin #dogmazic15:16
Shangrilooops15:16
Shangrilsry15:16
shwouchkhow can I reinstall a package XXX and all the tree of its dependencies?15:16
MonkeyDustshwouchk  sudo apt-get install [package] --reinstall15:17
theadminMonkeyDust: That'll just reinstall the package...15:17
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theadminThis is a rather difficult question, no idea how to do that with APT. shwouchk, if I were you, I'd write some form of script that'd check dependencies of everything recursively and pass that to apt-get --reinstall install...15:18
Dr_Willistheadmin,  on my low low end pcs its very noticeable ;)15:19
ubuntivityhello people, is the script /etc/rc.local is executed as root or as the regular user?15:19
theadminubuntivity: root15:19
Dr_Willisall of a packages dependencies.. all the way down.. could end up being a large chunk of the system15:19
ubuntivityThanks theadmin.15:19
Dr_Willisubuntivity,  it runs befor a user logs in. so its ran as root.15:19
theadminDr_Willis: emerge -D package, I'd say if this was Gentoo... But I have no idea how to tell APT to do that.15:20
ubuntivitythanks Dr_Willis15:20
codephobicanyone know how to mount a ReadyNas duo LVM disk in ubuntu?15:20
shwouchktheadmin: the thing is, then all those packages will get added to the list of user requested packages, no?15:20
OerHekstheadmin, to run a script as user @login, should that be placed in ~/.profile?15:20
shwouchktheadmin: I miss portage :(15:20
theadminshwouchk: What, exactly, is the purpose of such a reinstall?15:21
theadminOerHeks: Not all too sure, I'd go with ~/.config/autostart/15:22
antithesisHow to automatically login to tty1 on startup in Ubuntu Mini?15:22
theadminOerHeks: That's read by most desktop environments15:22
k1lantithesis: it should drop to a shell on the mini install15:23
shwouchktheadmin: Suddenly (after a hard shutdown) emacs (both gtk and lucid) act weird when in X, even with -Q. reinstalling the packages did not help. I wanted to reinstall the dependencies as well15:23
k1l!text | antithesis15:23
ubottuantithesis: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode15:23
theadminshwouchk: sudo apt-get install vim-gtk # :P15:24
antithesisk1l but I want it to automatically login to a user I specify15:24
theadminshwouchk: But seriously, that sounds like a problem :(15:24
Dr_Willisantithesis,  you can alter the /etc/init/tty1.conf and i recall makign it login to a console as a user. but i forget how i did it once ages ago..15:26
antithesisDr_Willis will this work http://askubuntu.com/questions/71621/how-do-i-setup-tty-autologin-in-ubuntu-which-is-running-upstart15:27
Dr_Willisantithesis,  /etc/init/tty#.conf is the upstart configs15:27
Dr_Willisi may have the file name wrong15:27
Dr_Willisi had befor where alt-ctrl-f12 was a 'rescue' console that was root on a problem system ages ago. :)15:28
Dr_Willisi had the tty12.conf file where it ran somthing like   /usr/bin/agetty --autologin <username>15:28
aze_hiiiiiiiiiiii  people15:28
aze_any one here15:29
Dr_Willislots of people here.15:29
shwouchktheadmin: thanks15:30
xgt001hi, my Ubuntu 12.04 randomly logs out :/ I have tried the latest components from xorg-edgers ppa, and still the issue persists.. I think this might be the issue, but I have no clue how to solve it :( any pointers could be very helpful https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/98051915:34
ubottuUbuntu bug 980519 in Fedora "Random log off in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS" [Undecided,New]15:34
taekMOrning Fellow ubuntu`ers15:34
Dr_Willis'random log off' - normally means its 'crashing'15:35
patsTomsmorning, I have ati hd 3200 and I want ati legacy driver15:36
patsTomsIf I understand correctly15:36
patsTomsI can't get it using ubuntu15:36
Dr_Williswatching the x org logs might give a clue whats crashing.  often its the X drivers, or ive seen other things cause X to crash15:36
xgt001Dr_Willis, yes,  can you tell which log to check out? there are many xorg.0. xorg.1 2 3 blah blah logs15:36
xgt001or should I check dmesg??15:37
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Dr_Willisthe ones with the #'s are the old archived logs15:37
Dr_Willismove/remove them to some sub dir if you want. and start with a new log.. ssh in and watch that log from a differnt machine and wait for a crash  :) is one way to hopefully catch whats crashing it in real time15:38
Dr_Williswatch dmesg output in real time also  ( i always got a spare ssh box for this) might give a clue also.15:39
ubuntivityantithesis: did you get your auto-login issue solved?15:40
antithesisubuntivity no, I haven't tried yet15:40
xgt001Dr_Willis, ok, just went through Xorg.0.log coudlnt find any errors or such15:40
tirengarfio__I change my processor, but I have the same hd, can I go from Ubuntu 13.04 32 bits to 13.04 64 bits?15:40
tirengarfio__*changed15:40
antithesisI'm going to install Ubuntu mini and I'm asking this beforehand15:40
k1lantithesis: why do you need a autologin on konsole?15:41
xgt001I actually want to switch back to stock ubuntu drivers... but I will loose the latest UVD + DPM functionality in the latest saucy kernel and mesa :( dont want to loose them15:41
Dr_Willistirengarfio__,  you mean you are moving the HD with the ubuntu instal into a new pc?15:41
antithesisubuntivity I did find http://nixgeeks.com/how-to-enable-automatic-login-in-ubuntu-server/ though15:41
ubuntivityantithesis: did the guys here provide a detailed solution for you (sorry I was disconnected, I couldn't see)15:41
tirengarfio__yes15:41
Dr_Willistirengarfio__,  64bit cpus can run 32bit os fine.15:41
bekksantithesis: Thats a pretty insecure approach.15:41
k1lantithesis: for most cases you want services to autostart and not a user to autologin15:41
antithesisbekks why is that insecure?15:42
ubuntivityOh, good. antithesis, I did make a pc of mine autologin, I can tell you the details if you are interested15:42
taekantithesis: very insecure.15:42
antithesisYes, please15:42
Dr_Willisanyone can come into the room, reboot the pc.. get a user shell/login..15:42
bekksantithesis: Because an attacker will have access without even having to break in.15:42
antithesisI don't believe in attackers15:42
antithesisThey don't exist15:42
k1lantithesis: again: why do you want autologin?15:42
ubuntivityantithesis: edit your /etc/init/tty1.conf as root (sudo nano /etc/init/tty1.conf)15:42
bekksantithesis: LOL. You should stop dreaming. Wake up.15:42
Dr_Willistheres been several links given as to what to put in the tt#.conf file for a auto login at a console.15:43
xgt001Dr_Willis, btw should I check out my .xsession-errors file as well? didnt find anything there too :(15:43
antithesisNo, really, there is no danger15:43
tirengarfio__Dr_Willis, so I would not gain anything if I change to Ubuntu 64 bits?15:43
antithesisNo danger at all. :)15:43
ubuntivityantithesis: then change the last line that start with "exec" in the following way:15:43
Dr_Willistirengarfio__,  most likely nothing real noticeable.. unless you got a lot of ram.15:43
ubuntivityantithesis: the line should look like "exec /bin/login -f USERNAME < /dev/tty1 > /dev/tty1 2>&1"15:44
antithesisubuntivity thank you15:44
ubuntivityreplacing USERNAME with your username, of course :)15:44
antithesisThat looks a lot like the inittab customization I made earlier in Arch15:44
ubuntivityyou are welcome antithesis ^_^15:44
k1lantithesis: last try: why do you want to autologin. you may want a service to autostart and not a user to login15:44
bekksantithesis: You should really wake up and face reality.15:44
tirengarfio__Dr_Willis, I have 16 GB15:44
antithesisk1l I want to boot to Xorg using startx15:45
ubuntivityguys, go easy with the dude. He may have his reasons..15:45
k1lantithesis: stop that. dont use startx on ubuntu :/15:45
antithesisI know how to customize my ~/.bash_profile15:45
antithesisWhy not?15:45
bekksubuntivity: Yeah. But there is no reason besides denying reality to actually believe in "there are no attackers".15:45
k1lubuntivity: no, he got no clue what he is doing :/15:45
antithesisstartx is my favourite display manager.15:45
k1lantithesis: this is not arch. you start the x with the dm. like lightdm15:46
antithesisk1l I don't like lightdm.15:46
bekksantithesis: Its outdated and not supported anymore. and startx isnt an display manager at all, and it never was.15:46
ubuntivityMaybe his linuxbox is not connected to the network?15:46
bekksubuntivity: Even then there are attackers.15:46
antithesisSo what's the replacement to startx?15:46
taekWalk By Attacks!15:46
ubuntivitybekks, now you should get serious :/15:46
k1lantithesis: sorry but this will cause problems on ubuntu. use a dm like lightdm, gdm or such15:46
antithesisk1l I don't like lightdm, gdm or such.15:46
taekDenial.15:47
ubuntivityWhat do you mean by 'offline attackers'? bekks, you mean viruses ??15:47
bekksubuntivity: No. I mean attackers. Viruses are viruses.15:47
k1lantithesis: they provide autologin, too15:47
taekubuntivity: he means people with access to t the physical machine15:47
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ubuntivityI wouldn't call that an attacker taek !15:47
taekWell they arn't pedestrians if they are using the machine!15:48
ubuntivityThey are probably his family members!!15:48
DJones!ot15:48
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:48
antithesisk1l I do know what I'm talking about, as is clear from the fact that I've used Arch linux.15:48
Dr_Willistirengarfio__,  you may want to switch to 64bit then.15:48
k1lantithesis: the user cant start x he needs some root rights wich is not possible in ubuntu because its uses root in another way than arch15:48
k1lantithesis: if you want arch behaviour use arch :/15:49
tirengarfio__Dr_Willis, is possible? I can not find a good tutorial about it..15:49
Dr_Willistirengarfio__,  is what possible?15:49
tirengarfio__go to 64 bits os?15:49
Droopsta915what command do use to install gmount iso folder from desktop?15:49
Dr_Willistirengarfio__,  you install the 64bit os...15:49
antithesisk1l I can't go back to Arch; it always breaks!15:49
Dr_Willistirengarfio__,  you dont upgrade from 32bit to 64bit os.15:49
k1lantithesis: and please stop that "i use arch i know everything about linux". that will not help you for ubuntu specific issues, which i am explaining to you15:49
tirengarfio__I have installed 32 one, I want to go to 6415:49
Dr_Willisa clean install is required.15:49
tirengarfio__really?15:50
k1lantithesis: if you use ubuntu go with the ubuntu way :/15:50
tirengarfio__so is not possible go from 32 to 64..15:50
taektirengarfio__: 64bit has it's own issues15:50
bekkstaek: A reinstall is the clean way.15:50
k1ltirengarfio__: not withour reinstall15:50
ubuntivityDr_Willis: you've just raised a nice issue in my mind! Can we simply upgrade the kernel from x86 to x64? and if no, then why??15:50
Dr_Willistirengarfio__,  'go from' -  > you INSTALL the 64bit os on the machine... you dont UPGRADE a cyurrent 32bit OS into a 64bit os..15:50
Dr_Willisubuntivity,  NO you dont.15:50
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ubuntivityWhy not, Dr_Willis ?15:51
Dr_WillisNo idea. i havent usesd 32bit in years.15:51
taekWindows doesn't have a 32 to 64bit upgrade - just doesn't happen15:51
ubuntivityWindows is not THE OS! taek15:51
tirengarfio__Dr_Willis, ok thanks!15:51
taekubuntivity: Did I ever say it was?15:52
ubuntivityIf Windows doesn't do it, it doesn't mean it is not possible!15:52
Dr_WillisI have had no real issues with 64bit ubuntu in ages..   i cant even recall the last issue i had that was due to 64bit15:52
OerHeksubuntivity, not possible to "upgrade 32 to 64 or back"15:52
ubuntivityI know it is not possible, but I want to know WHY?15:52
antithesisk1l I will go with the Ubuntu Mini way. :)15:52
taekincompatible.15:52
bekksubuntivity: Because 32bit cant execute 64bit.15:52
antithesisWhich I just defined myself. It's: "use startx and the like."15:52
k1lantithesis: use a *dm or you will recieve alot of problems15:53
bekksantithesis: Then you are pretty much on your own, since thats not the Ubuntu way.15:53
ubuntivityYes, so what about an external bootable OS that changes the Kernel of the already-installed OS to become 64 bits?15:53
lolwatnaoxorg servers ftw15:53
lolwatnao:D15:53
antithesisk1l I think those 'problems' of yours are just as common as attackers; not at all.15:53
taekantithesis: just do what you want, and don't come back with problems - you've been told :-P15:53
theadminbekks, k1l: Works just fine, actually, I installed Ubuntu from a minicd yesterday and use startx. The only real problem is I can't shutdown from GUI, but that's ConsoleKit stuff :/15:53
antithesisbekks just tell me the Ubuntu counterpart to startx then15:54
antithesis*dm is not the same.15:54
antithesisThe day antithesis got told.15:54
lolwatnaoI use startx on my arch linux15:54
theadminantithesis: "startx" does work on Ubuntu, usually starts your default desktop (and I've no idea how it determines that)15:54
bekksantithesis: startx isnt a dm. The ubuntu way to start X is to use a *dm.15:54
k1ltheadmin: you will get in trouble with the root settings.15:54
bekkslolwatnao: Archlinux isnt Ubuntu.15:54
theadmink1l: Who said to run that as root?15:54
lolwatnaobekks: ok, but it works well on there so why not ubuntu?15:55
antithesislolwatnao have you ever experience any problems with it?15:55
lolwatnaonope15:55
bekkslolwatnao: BEcause its not the Ubuntu way.15:55
lolwatnaoworks like a charm on arch15:55
antithesisSee, guys, no problems15:55
lolwatnaobekks: define ubuntu way15:55
bekkslolwatnao: The Ubuntu way is to use *dm15:55
k1llolwatnao: this is not arch :/15:55
bekkslolwatnao: Please follow the ongoing discussion.15:55
OerHeksubuntivity, you would get an architecture error.15:55
bekksOerHeks: Thats not true.15:56
ubuntivityerror by whom? OerHeks15:56
lolwatnaokll, bekks: wat are you a bunch of conservative people who want to hold up the old ubuntu traditions? :P15:56
k1llolwatnao: drop that attitude :/15:56
bekksOerHeks: If you replace the kernel to a 64bit, your system will still work, since your userland is 32bit which is executable on 64bit.15:56
lolwatnaosorry, hat was uncalled for15:56
theadminbekks: Uh, what exactly is "the ubuntu way"? Is it defined somewhere? I'm not even sure. I mean, I can hop onto an Ubuntu install from a Minicd, do a "sudo apt-get install lxde" and then "startx" and most stuff will wok fine, for example.15:56
bekkslolwatnao: Yes.15:56
semitonesthe way that can be put into words is not the true way15:56
semitonespackages what can be apt-getted are not the true packages15:57
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lolwatnaosemitones: wow. Trippy.15:57
ubuntivitySo, it is NOT only the kernel that differs between x86 and x64, right? It is the entire plethora of binaries??15:57
theadminubuntivity: Yeah, all of them15:57
bekksubuntivity: Correct.15:57
semitoneslolwatnao: :P15:57
antithesisOk k1l I will give your fancy 'Bantoo method a chance. Tell me of a WORKING way to start a .xinitrc script on startup using *dm15:57
antithesisI've tried this many a time, but to no avail15:57
antithesisThat's why I want to use startx; it works.15:57
ubuntivitytheadmin, bekks: That was easy to say! Why nobody simply answered me with that??15:58
bekksantithesis: What does your .xinitrc actually do? Auostarts some apps?15:58
checoimgCan you compile it with make with a -m64 flag ?15:58
bekksubuntivity: We did. :)15:58
antithesisbekks ya15:58
lolwatnaoI actually have very little experience with ubuntu, using it for only 3 months. Then I needed sun java15:58
bekks!autostart | antithesis15:58
ubottuantithesis: If you want to edit your Autostart programs, open the Unity dash and search for Startup Programs. If you're on XFCE, use menu -> Settings -> Settings Manager -> Session and Startup, if you're on KDE, use Kickoff -> Computer -> System Settings -> Autostart. For more details see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup. For LXDE see http://ubottu.com/y/415:58
bekksantithesis: there you go.15:58
antithesisubottu what's a Unity?15:58
ubottuI am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:58
antithesisIs this part of the Ubuntu way?15:58
antithesisBecause I don't like it.15:58
ubuntivitybekks: I don't remember so, I just remember being told that it is not possible!15:58
ubuntivity!unity15:59
ubottuUnity is the default UI since Ubuntu 11.04.  Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. For a GNOME 2-like experience, see !notunity15:59
theadminantithesis: Unity is the default Ubuntu desktop environment. It's based on GNOME and Compiz.15:59
k1lantithesis: if you want to get technical support stop that fool-mode15:59
lolwatnaoantithesis: oh no you didn't!15:59
antithesislol15:59
moondog!notunity15:59
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 and higher use the !Unity desktop environment by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown.15:59
ubuntivityI feel it is hot in here! Turn the AC on please!15:59
k1lantithesis: .xsession gets run on start with a dm16:00
theadminDoesn't the fallback mode not work anymore?16:00
lolwatnaoubottu: can you install enlightenment dm on ubuntu :D16:00
ubottulolwatnao: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:00
k1ltheadmin: its not named -classic16:00
lolwatnaoubottu: oh :C16:00
theadminlolwatnao: Sure, e17 is in the repos.16:00
Guest24514test message16:00
ubuntivity!enlightment16:00
lolwatnaoYay!16:00
ubuntivity!enlightenment16:00
ubottuEnlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.16:00
antithesisbekks thanks for the suggestion of changing my desktop environment for a task as trivial as changing my autostart programs, but I do not feel it is in accordance with the UNIX philosophy and, therefore, I do not want to do that. Please tell me of another way to change my autostart programs using *dm16:00
k1ltheadmin: *now16:00
lolwatnaoenlightenment is really nice :316:01
lolwatnaolooks excellent.16:01
Dr_WillisE17 never seems to run well..16:01
ubuntivityantithesis: you mean it is not the UNIX way ^_*16:01
theadminDr_Willis: Agreed. Buggy thingamajig.16:01
bekksantithesis: Well, I'll just stop supporting you, since you are denying all approaches for helping you, showing you alternatives, and because you arent stopping your "I'm an Arch user, I know it all" attitude.16:01
lolwatnaoreally? in my experiences with it it was the best, trumping xfce gnome and lightdm16:01
theadminDr_Willis: As ubottu stated, that's a "development" version, though, maybe it's best to use e16.16:01
dsfasdfany16:01
jesusehi guys, I am trying to use ICA on ubuntu but It is giving an error. Any of you have use it?16:02
Dr_WillisE is the constantly changeing desktop/de/wm/library - they never seem to know which way whty want to go.. been toying with it for years.16:02
jesuseICA independent computing architecture. Citrix Receiver.16:02
dsfasdfany app for file recovery in ubuntu ?16:02
lolwatnaoDr_willis: half the fun ;D16:02
theadmindsfasdf: Try photorec. The best I found that really works.16:02
theadmindsfasdf: Part of the testdisk suite, so "apt-get install testdisk" to get it16:02
lolwatnaotheadmin what is apt-get? (sorry i haven't used ubuntu in a long time)16:03
ubuntivitylolwatnao: it is like the rpm16:03
theadminlolwatnao: Muh... One of the central parts of APT, the Debian package management system.16:03
ubuntivityif you weren't sarcastic, lolwatnao16:03
lolwatnaotheadmin: ohhhh so like pacman?16:03
bekksubuntivity: No. It is like yum. :)16:04
theadminlolwatnao: Sort of.16:04
ubuntivityright bekks , sorry my mistake :)16:04
antithesisbekks sorry, I didn't see that last message of yours. Now testing .xsession.16:04
lolwatnaook, sorry for my noobishness.16:04
bekksubuntivity: dpkg would be like rpm.16:04
lolwatnaoIs there a repository for ubuntu like the AUR where we can download tarballs and makepkg them c:16:05
ubuntivitytrue, bekks. The issue is that I never used the redhat packaging tools, so I just heard about them!16:05
bekkslolwatnao: There are a lot of PPA.16:05
k1llolwatnao: nope. no AUR for ubuntu. we got PPAs16:05
theadminlolwatnao: Nah. Everyone is allowed to submit software to the "extra" repository, though.16:05
ubuntivitywhat does PPA stand for?16:05
bekks!ppa | lolwatnao16:05
k1l!ppa > lolwatnao16:05
ubottulolwatnao: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge16:05
ubottulolwatnao, please see my private message16:05
theadminlolwatnao: Yeah and PPAs.16:05
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lolwatnaohm.16:06
lolwatnaoIs there a ppa for sun java?16:06
bekkslolwatnao: yes.16:06
lolwatnaoswitched to arch for nothing then T_T16:06
theadminlolwatnao: Yes, but what on Earth for? OpenJDK works just fine.16:06
ubuntivityOpenJDK can completely replace Java?16:07
bekkslolwatnao: :D You nickname makes sense now :D16:07
bekksubuntivity: No.16:07
lolwatnaoold version didn't work with some apllets at all16:07
theadminubuntivity: OpenJDK is an implementation of Java16:07
lolwatnaoapplets*16:07
ubuntivityCan OpenJDK work for Android software development?16:07
lolwatnaobekks: wat?16:07
bekksOracle JDK6 was the reference implementation of Java.16:07
theadminubuntivity: It does, from what I know, then again I'm not a developer...16:07
ubuntivityI'll go ask in #android16:08
bekksBrocade SAN Switches dont work with OpenJDK, e.g.16:08
Droopsta915i have downloaded ubuntu 12.04iso. can i copy and paste the file into my usb stick to run from usb?16:08
caleresshey guys my pc boots (sometimes to a blank screen), although i can see the cursor and hear the login sound...also after a restart everything works ok its just annoying, does anyone have any idea why this could be ?16:09
bekksDroopsta915: No. you have to create a bootable usb medium¨.16:09
ubuntivitycaleress: I had this issue on 8.1016:09
lolwatnaocaleress: Does your video card have the proper drivers?16:09
antithesisWell, bekks, I've included "xcowsay lel" in my ~/.xsession before reissuing a login, and I've paid close attention to my dual-head setup, but there was no cow saying "lel' to be found. How do you explain this?16:09
caleressi have that crappy nvidia optimus stuff with bumblebee installed16:09
ubuntivityMy video card wasn't supported. although it could actually boot in from time to time. caleress16:10
theadminWhat on Earth... is going on here? Can someone shed light on this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5894526/ -- awkwardest error ever.16:10
bekksantithesis: I'll repeat my last post for you.16:10
Droopsta915bekks: do you know a link i can follow to do so? i cant find the right link to show me how to create a bootable flashdrive16:10
bekksantithesis: Well, I'll just stop supporting you, since you are denying all approaches for helping you, showing you alternatives, and because you arent stopping your "I'm an Arch user, I know it all" attitude.16:10
lolwatnaotheadmin: ill give it a shot o_o16:10
JakinroHow can I download high-quality porn videos from xvideos.com to my computer in ubuntu ?16:11
antithesisJust like I thought, bekks: you don't know and you don't want to admit that startx is superior. Thanks anyway.16:11
caleressubuntivity: well mine is *somewhat* of supported16:11
lolwatnaotheadmin: is there a link there which is broken and is leading somewhere else?16:11
Jakinroantithesis, startx is the godfather of all x's.16:11
Jakinrobekks is just retarded, that's all.16:11
caleressnot officially but it does work for now :)16:11
theadminlolwatnao: No, "heimdall" is the actual binary file.16:11
bekksantithesis: Whatever you think. I dont support you. Although I know the solution. I decide to not help you, since thats my free time I am spending here16:11
caleressi guess i could try removing ot16:12
bekksThanks k1l16:12
caleress*it16:12
ubuntivitytheadmin: what if you "cat heimdall"??16:12
lolwatnaotheadmin wow. that's weird.16:12
bekksubuntivity: What is that supposed to do, besides messing up your terminal?16:13
theadminubuntivity: I rather wouldn't paste that... Lots of nonsense. "file heimdall" tells me: heimdall: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildIDâsha1ê=0xe3d400859c94ab4be1c7d4279f18143aafeec089, not stripped16:13
lolwatnaoHA! there is a broken link SOMEWHERE!16:13
ubuntivityI don't want to see its content, I want to know if cat can access it16:13
lolwatnaothat's what i got out of it o-o16:13
bekksubuntivity: BEtter use ls then.16:13
lolwatnao!cat16:14
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal16:14
lolwatnaoo-O16:14
ubuntivitycan you "ls ../Downloads -l" theadmin?16:14
lolwatnaoI know how to use the terminal imma arch user >:C16:15
theadminubuntivity: Access rights are fine... I own the file and all the directories, all dirs are executable, the file is 75516:15
lolwatnaotheadmin: positive? did you sudo it? e-e16:15
caleressubuntivity: thanks for the info16:16
antithesisbekks I beg you, please share with me your knowledgeable knowledge, for I long for the enlightened state in which you are.16:16
theadminlolwatnao: Err, well, I tried but: sudo: unable to execute ./heimdall: No such file or directory16:16
lolwatnaotheadmin: missed that sudo part16:16
bekksantithesis: Ignore set.16:16
lolwatnaotheadmin: xD16:16
ubuntivitytheadmin: tried 'mv'ing it into another name?16:16
theadmin...This is awkward. The 32-bit version worked... But this is a 64-bit system. Oh well, no logic here.16:16
ubuntivityrenamed it? theadmin16:17
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theadminubuntivity: Yeah but same thing happens. Oh well problem solved anyway, although in a very odd way.16:17
lolwatnaotheadmin: try deleting it and getting it again (watever heimdall is)16:17
iceroottheadmin: because sudo is looking on /root/.heimdal for that file. use "sudo sh heimdal" instead16:17
bekkstheadmin: 64bit can execute 32bit. Not vice versa. This mechanism is called "multi arch"16:18
theadminiceroot: Ain't a shell script, so that'll fail, it's a true binary.16:18
lolwatnaoDID SOMEONE SAY ARCH?! xD16:18
theadminbekks: I know. But running 64-bit on 64-bit failed.16:18
ubuntivitytheadmin: how it was solved?16:18
theadminbekks: Which is plain unexplainable.16:18
theadminubuntivity: Ran the 32-bit version of the app %)16:18
bekkstheadmin: Why?16:18
iceroottheadmin: sh will see that it is a binary. ./script will call bash/sh to look into the script and the kernel will decide what interpreter is needed16:19
ubuntivitySo, can I suppose the 64 bit version is corrupted?16:19
iceroottheadmin: so "sudo sh ./heimdal" is fine16:19
bekksubuntivity: Works fine here for years.16:19
ubuntivityhard disk failure?16:19
theadminiceroot: Ah. I just used "sudo ./heimdall", wouldn't be the same?16:19
bekksubuntivity: We dont know.16:19
iceroottheadmin: no16:19
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theadminiceroot: Hm. Let me try that option, but still pretty odd.16:20
ubuntivityGuys, it is time for me to break my fasting (Iftar) so I'll have to leave16:20
ubuntivityI wish a blessed Ramadan for all of you :)16:20
theadminiceroot: Well, that gave me: ./heimdall: 1: ./heimdall: ELF: not found16:20
iceroottheadmin: sudo -i; ./heimdal then :)16:21
theadminOh well whatever, glad the 32-bit version worked anyway, guess that solves the problem.16:21
theadminNot too interested in it to dig further :D16:22
valentin007There is a french ???16:23
MonkeyDust!fr16:23
ubottuNous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.16:23
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JustM0Binhey guys can someone help me real quick16:35
k1l!details | JustM0Bin16:36
ubottuJustM0Bin: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."16:36
JustM0Binubuntu 13.10.. im trying to get samba file sharing to work between ubuntu and a windows 7 computer16:37
geniiHm, Saucy16:37
MonkeyDustJustM0Bin  13.10 is unstable, #ubuntu+1 for support16:37
JustM0Binohhh k thanks guys16:37
mm12hey all16:38
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Dr_Willissamba can be a pain even on stable releases. ;)16:40
JustM0Binhaha yea its annoying i had a pain free setup on my old computer but why would that happen twice haha16:41
lobo2hola16:41
TrelI have a guide that is telling me to use the command usbconfig, that appears to be a bsd command, is there any utility I can use to do this in ubuntu? http://askubuntu.com/questions/90906/turn-off-microsoft-explorer-touch-mouse-haptic-feedback16:41
guanamoHello, my name is not antithesis and I have nothing to do with him in fact, but could anymore (for example, bekks) help me? I am trying to change my autostart programs using gdm. Is there any way to make it run a specified script like .xinitrc on startup?16:41
lobo2alguien sabe como modificar el numero imie de un android?16:41
theadminlolol16:41
Dr_Willisguanamo,  easier to use the .config/autorun/scripts16:41
Dr_Willis!find usbconfig16:42
theadminguanamo: As Dr_Willis said, place any scripts you want to run on desktop startup in ~/.config/autostart/16:42
lobo2modifity imei number mobile¿?16:42
ubottuPackage/file usbconfig does not exist in raring16:42
lobo2alguien know?16:42
theadmin!es | lobo216:42
ubottulobo2: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.16:42
Dr_Willislobo2,  you dont change  your imei as far as i know.,  and theres the #android channel16:43
TrelDr_Willis: I know it doesn't exist, I'm asking what I can use for the same effect?16:43
lobo2thanks16:43
john1234hello everybody!!!!:)16:44
mm12hi16:45
GryfelhaseHi kids... is there any easy to use video-dvd creator for ubuntu ?16:45
Dr_Willis!info devede16:45
ubottudevede (source: devede): simple application to create Video DVDs. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.23.0~ds1-1 (raring), package size 2077 kB, installed size 3893 kB16:45
Gryfelhasei'm using ubuntu 12.04 and my video source is mpeg16:46
Dr_Willisdevede works well for my simple needs16:46
Gryfelhaseok, will check it16:46
Gryfelhasethx16:46
Dr_Willismay be others out there, but devede is fairly simple and works well16:46
k1ldevede is really simple and does a good job16:48
john1234WHAT devede?16:49
Dr_Willispeople forget to click that resize to fit button.. ;)16:49
Dr_Willis!info devede16:49
ubottudevede (source: devede): simple application to create Video DVDs. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.23.0~ds1-1 (raring), package size 2077 kB, installed size 3893 kB16:49
k1l!devede | john123416:49
Dr_Willisright there in the repos.16:50
GryfelhaseLaunching program:  mplayer -loop 1 -identify -ao null -vo null -frames 0 /usr/share/devede/silence.ogg16:50
Gryfelhaseelemento:  /usr/bin16:50
Gryfelhasemplayer: could not connect to socket16:50
Gryfelhasemplayer: No such file or directory16:50
john1234OH ,sorry,i know!16:50
Gryfelhasemplayer is installed16:50
Dr_Willisdoes  /usr/share/devede/silence.ogg  exist?16:50
Gryfelhaseyes, .../silence.ogg is there16:51
AziroshinI need a little reminder: Does INCLUDE_PATH do anything? When googing for it, I only see things like C_INCLUDE_PATH and CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH16:52
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GryfelhaseAh... it didn't worked cause I stared it with a   &16:54
rogier_how do i disable the keyboard in my laptop? Some of the keys are stuck due to a soup spill. I'm using external keyboard now. But the stuck keys keep ctrl+R ing.16:59
Dr_Willisthat may be a neat trick to do rogier_ ..  #hardware might have some ideas.16:59
Dr_Willisit might be possible to set up the X server to only use the external keyboard.17:00
rogier_what is a neat trick?17:00
theadminrogier_: http://wpkg.org/Disable_/_enable_keyboard_and_mouse_in_Linux17:00
rogier_How do i configure x server?17:00
DJonesrogier_: There may be something on this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166329817:00
wilee-nileerogier_, Generally keyboard replacements are rather cheap and easy to install, have you looked around.17:00
Dr_Willismay be easier to dissasemble and clean the keyboard17:01
rogier_Yes but i use external keyboard/ mouse/ screen always. So there is no need to replace.17:02
wilee-nileerinse and repeat17:02
Dr_Willisthen disaemble and leave it out. ;)17:02
theadminrogier_: Follow the link I sent, it's a rather easy procedure to disable an input device.17:02
rogier_Yes but have big project, this is my only pc. I will dissamble and so and after project \.17:02
Dr_Willisleaveing it sit for the next few months.. is going to be  nasty.17:02
devxcan anyone tell me pls gnome 3.8 supports the virtualbox or not17:02
Dr_Willisdevx,  huh? you mean does gnome 3.8 work IN vbox?17:03
theadmindevx: Uh, what? GNOME and Virtualbox are entirely unrelated.17:03
wilee-nileedevx, 3.8 is a ppa or 13.10 right?17:04
devxno vbox in gnome3.817:04
wilee-nileedevx, it is not stock in any release.17:04
devxmeans no way after add ppa in ubuntu 12.10 os gnome 3.8 and after done upgrade17:06
wilee-nilee!ppa17:06
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge17:06
k1ldevx: i still dont know what the real problem is :/17:06
devxk1l: it does no support17:07
devxand i want help17:07
wilee-nileedevx, 3.8 is not fully put together in that ppa I believe i says that on the web page17:07
devxbecause i have already upgraded and vbox is not working17:07
devxpls any help17:08
wilee-nileedevx, Purge the ppa and use the version provided in the repos.17:08
k1ldevx: so you have 12.10 with gnome3.8 running and vbox doesnt start?17:08
devx<wilee-nilee> do u have icq account17:08
wilee-nileeA what?17:09
devxk1l :yes17:09
devxdo u have icq account17:09
devxcan we chat over that17:09
wilee-nileewhat is a icq17:09
taek"what is icq", are you serious?17:10
wilee-nileeI don't do pm17:10
k1ldevx: you could use ppa-purge to remove that gnome3.8 and look if vbox does work then17:10
devxwhare are u from17:10
Dr_Willisicq? havent seen that mention in years and years...17:10
Dr_Willis;)17:10
wilee-nileethe mother ship17:10
devx<wilee-nilee> what the mother ship17:11
pranavi have my friend in lan. how do i host svn server, so we could code together in ubuntu 12.04 ?17:11
Dr_Willis!svn17:11
ubottusvn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/17:11
taeksudo apt-get install subversion17:11
Dr_Willisinstall and configure subversion17:11
devxok17:11
taekhow to use it, you'll have to look it up17:12
* taek <- only uses windows svn clients17:12
devxis cs6 is Swish max is working on wine17:12
devxin 12.1017:12
taekI highly doubt cs6 works in ubuntu wine17:12
pranavtaek: Dr_Willis have there already..17:12
devxok and swish max17:13
taekNever heard of devx17:13
wilee-nileetaek, I am quite sure I can provide many things you have never heard of. ;)17:13
taekwilee-nilee: I am sure, since I am not a normal user of ubuntu desktop17:13
taeknormal->regular17:13
k1ldevx: for wine questions please ask the specialists:17:13
devxanimation software www.swishmax.com check it17:13
wilee-nileewho says any of us are17:13
k1l!wine | devx17:14
ubottudevx: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu17:14
taek!appdb photoshop17:14
wilee-nileelinux ix linux anyway hardly a differnce in the 100's available.17:14
wilee-nileeis*17:14
devxhow can make the flash wesite in ubuntu12.1017:14
devx*website17:14
holsteindevx: you are creating a flash website? i would try a web development channel17:15
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Gryfelhase(i wouldn't mae a flash website :D)17:15
* taek wouldn't touch flash -17:16
devxi cant get help from here or not17:16
theadmin"flash website" ಠ_ಠ17:16
devxcan i get help from here17:16
Dr_WillisFlash is worth running away from.17:16
devxflash website17:16
Dr_Willislearn html5 would be the best advice17:16
wilee-nileenoscript, noscript17:16
k1ldevx: please specify the questions17:16
holsteindevx: i dont mean to be unclear.. check the /topic here, friend, and if you have a relevant question, please ask.. otherwise, try a channel where the topic is web development.. thanks!17:16
Gryfelhasedex: sorry, don't know a flash creation to for linux, but I have no clue if there is one)17:16
taekwilee-nilee: adblock + elemental hiding tool + noscript17:17
taekt:D17:17
holsteinyou can make flash exports from libreoffice, but i wouldnt use it for web development17:17
devxin html5 all things will be fulfilled17:17
taekdevx -> #ubuntu-offtopic17:17
k1ldevx: which native language is yours? maybe we have a channel in your native language for better support17:17
taekk1l I assume devx is trying to make flash for a website.17:18
devxenglish17:18
k1ltaek: i think we cant help him if we only assume what he wants. :/17:18
taekHe's already asked questions about photoshop cs6 something max and asking questions about websites and subversion.17:19
devxpls help17:19
Gryfelhasek1l: he searches for an flash-creating tool for ubuntu17:19
taekI think i've been following pretty decently.17:19
devxno boss17:19
Dr_Willisdevx,  give details of exactly what it is you are wanting.17:20
k1ldevx: ok, with english you are fine in here. but please explain with more details what you really want to do. there is still confusion what you want to achieve17:20
devxcan i install all the backtrack tools in ubuntu12.1017:20
Dr_Williswow.. jump around a lot in the questions...17:20
Dr_Willisdevx,  i imagine most are in the ubuntu repos.17:20
k1lah, now i think i know which user that is :/17:21
Dr_WillisBt tweaks a lot of things.17:21
OerHeksDr_Willis, And he knows all answers to his own questions :-D17:21
GryfelhaseI think his question is pretty clear... many websites have flash elements... and he asks, how to create them (what tools are in ubuntu)17:21
Gryfelhaseto do so17:21
devxcan i install all the backtrack tools in ubuntu12.1017:22
holsteindevx: ask the backtrack team. which is not kali linux AFAIK.17:22
Dr_Willisdevx,  look in the repos for the tools you want, if they are there. you can install them.17:22
brontosaurusrexGryfelhase, and the answer was : learn html5 (js, canvas, ect), could not be cleraer17:22
rogier_Hello, so i installed ubuntu today on this computer i found. Now i want to use this computer to start an international media empire in order to eventually rule the western hemisphere. How do i go about this? What software do i need? I'm used to using mac OS for my activities. But i like the future to be open source.17:22
holsteinwhich is now*17:22
deadweaselKleopatra has unmet dependecies in 12.04 ??  I just did a fresh install and I can't get kleopatra running.  12.04 lts x64, libkdepim4 : Depends: kdepim-runtime but it is not going to be installed17:22
Gryfelhasebrontosaurusrex: This is a suggestion, but not an accourate awnser17:23
pranavDr_Willis: says.. svnadmin: 'ff' is a subdirectory of an existing repository rooted at ''17:23
Dr_Willisdeadweasel,  done a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' yet?17:23
devxcan u tell the best wifi hacking tool17:23
brontosaurusrexGryfelhase, you can't expect "us" to support commercial stuff, can't you?17:23
deadweaselnot a complete upgrade, just updates and installs17:23
taekdeadweasel: have you tried installing the dependencies ? sudo apt-get -f install17:23
deadweaseli'll try now17:23
k1ldevx: wifi hacking is not supported in here17:23
holsteindevx: no. but a networking channel can.. please try /join in one17:23
Dr_Willisdeadweasel,  i dont mean a release upgrade..17:24
deadweaselno worries, I'm fully upgraded anyhow.17:24
taekDr_Willis: that reminds me, I did a distro-upgrade and now I get a lsb_release error17:24
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taek:D17:24
devxcan u tell the backtrack irc chat ball17:24
holsteindevx: chat ball?17:25
k1l!backtrack > devx17:25
ubottudevx, please see my private message17:25
Dr_Willisonly time ive seen  unmet depencies on a clean install was when i hadent done a 'sudo apt-get update' yet.17:25
Dr_Willistaek,  you broke it! ;P17:25
taek!!!17:25
taekOMG, Ubuntu!17:25
Gryfelhasebrontosaurusrex: No, but if there whould be tools in ubtuntu, those who know could give an awnser. Or the awnser is "I don*t know"17:25
taekNo seriously though, the error report dialog box is starting to become annoying.17:25
Dr_Willistaek,  you mean the apport message/dialogs?17:26
theadmintaek: sudo apt-get remove whoopsie17:26
taekI guess it doesn't matter, next week this machine will become a 12.04 server.17:26
taekwhoopsie?17:26
theadmintaek: The error reporting tool17:26
devxhow is steave17:26
taekNo thanks :D17:26
Dr_Willis!info whoopsie17:26
ubottuwhoopsie (source: whoopsie): Ubuntu error tracker submission. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.15 (raring), package size 25 kB, installed size 109 kB17:26
brontosaurusrexGryfelhase, true.17:26
taekI mightr need it for something important17:27
taekhaha17:27
OerHeksGryfelhase, there are no fancy tools for flash development, as flash is closed source. and devx knows that> <devx> in html5 all things will be fulfilled17:27
pranavi find /etc/apache2/httpd.conf empty in my ubuntu17:27
taekHTML 5 doesn't make the web better.17:27
taekpranav: that's normal17:27
Dr_Willisthe death of flash makes the web better. ;P17:27
pranavhow to enable mod_dav then17:28
taekthe death of advertisement will make the world better!17:28
theadminpranav: sudo a2enmod dav # Or something like this.17:28
deadweaselfully upgraded, yet unmet dependcies.  I guess I'll wait on kleopatra.17:28
taekdeadweasel: have you tried sudo apt-get -f install ?17:28
Dr_Willisdeadweasel,  tried a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?17:28
GryfelhaseOerHeks: Thats no argument. doc or ppt are also closed source (at least it was)... reengenering ;)17:29
deadweaselthat won'[t take me of 12.04 will it?17:29
pranavtaek: ok :) but where is the settings file ?17:29
deadweaselDr_Willis: ^?17:29
taekapache2.conf17:29
Dr_Willisdeadweasel,  No. its not a RELEASE upgrade17:29
deadweasel:), thx17:29
Dr_Willisdeadweasel,  what reelase are you using now?17:29
taekpranav: /etc/apache2/apache.conf17:29
deadweaselAh, this is doing something.  fantastic, thx.   12.04.2 ltx x6417:29
woooHow to mount a partition. for eg I want to mount /dev/sdb117:30
Dr_Willis!mount | wookiehangover17:30
ubottuwookiehangover: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount17:30
Dr_Willis!mount | wooo17:30
ubottuwooo: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount17:30
k1ldeadweasel: see man apt. dist-upgrade will not upgrade from 12.04 to 12.1017:30
deadweasel227mb of upgrades17:30
deadweaselduh17:30
Dr_Willisdeadweasel,  held back packages17:30
deadweaseli see.17:30
tgm4883when doing a dist-upgrade, it's worth verifying that it isn't trying to remove a bunch of packages as well17:31
devxtell me is there any ubuntu certification institute in india17:31
tgm4883not that removing packages is bad, just make sure it's not trying to remove stuff that it shouldn't17:31
pranavtaek: its empty as well17:31
pranavapache.conf17:31
pranavnormal ?17:31
devxtell me is there any ubuntu certification institute in india17:31
taekpranav: what are you looking for exactly?17:31
pranavi enabled mod dav17:31
DJonesdevx: You're probably better asking your local Ubuntu group about that17:31
pranavusing a2enmod17:32
pranavbut when i restart17:32
k1l!in | devx17:32
ubottudevx: #ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India17:32
devxpranav : do u know any ubuntu certification institute in india17:32
pranavit says i have invalid /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/dav_svn.conf17:32
pranavwhich is not the case17:32
k1ldevx: ask in #ubuntu-in17:33
holsteindevx: not that i see.. please do not repost your questions17:33
taekpranav: you'll probably be better off in the proper channel for apache17:33
pranavtaek: ok, thanks17:33
taekpranav:  please join #apache17:33
pranavsure..17:33
jemarkUbuntu certification? I thought that was obsolete?17:34
woooI have used sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt . but still I am not able to open it17:34
taekOne needs to be certified to use ubuntu?!17:35
tgm4883taek, no, but you can be certified17:35
taekI guess mac users need to be certified to even touch one then..17:36
jemarkhehe17:36
Dr_Williswooo,  ls /mnt   you see any files ?17:36
tgm4883taek, there are redhat, linux, and windows certifications as well17:36
zykotick9wooo: what filesystem is this?  fat/ntfs probably needs more options then what you used.17:36
tgm4883I'd guess there are Mac ones too, but IDK about them17:37
woooDr_Willis, nothing.17:37
jemarknow they they would have Mir, maybe there needs to be a special Ubuntu certification17:37
wooozykotick9, FAT.17:37
taektgm4883: I was poking fun at hte mac users..17:37
tgm4883jemark, there was a certification before that, and the certification has nothing to do with Mir17:37
zykotick9wooo: good luck then, you need more options to give mount (i wouldn't know what they are).17:37
jemarktgm4883: before, that one is obsolete ;)17:37
wooozykotick9, ahh. I am stuck.17:38
th0rwooo, try sudo mount -t vfat /dev..........17:38
tgm4883jemark, no, certification has to do with ones ability to administer the system. A) Mir isn't out yet, and B) I would guess that the certification mostly (if not entirely) deals with server stuff17:38
jemarktgm4883: I agree17:39
tgm4883jemark, looking into it a bit further, they actually have separate desktop and server certification, but the desktop ones don't seem to deal much with the display server anyway   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EngineerCertification/DesktopTasklist17:40
jemarktgm4883: good to know. thanks for the link and info17:41
tgm4883jemark, yw17:42
devxtell me is there any ubuntu certification institute in india17:42
tgm4883devx, did you ask in the india channel?17:42
devxno help in #ubuntu-in17:42
woooThor, no luck with that also17:43
Thorwooo: wha? wrong person perhaps?17:44
DJonesdevx: Be patient in the India channel, you could also send an email to the ubuntu-in mailing list, people that are in that channel or on the mailing list are most likely to be able to give you advice17:44
woooThor, sorry. :)17:44
Thorno problems17:44
devxtell me is there any ubuntu certification institute in india17:44
jemarktgm4883: project is dead? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EngineerCertification17:45
DJonesdevx: Please stop repeating your question so often17:45
tgm4883jemark, yea, I'm looking at that now17:45
woooth0r, no luck with that. I have tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB but still I am not able to find anything in /media/external17:45
taekisn't india asleep right now?17:45
jemarktgm4883: me too17:45
tgm4883jemark, there was a partner with lpi, but I'm not seeing anything there related to ubuntu certification17:45
MonkeyDustdevx  ask here    https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in17:46
th0rwooo, well, you said you were mounting to /mnt, so I am not surprised you can't find anythign in /media/external17:46
jemarktgm4883: yeah17:46
woooth0r, Now I am using sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/external -o uid=1000,gid=1000,utf8,dmask=027,fmask=13717:46
cplxhi guys - running 13.04 - I have put 'setpci -d 8086:3b28 90.b=40' in /boot/grub/custom.cfg and doesn't seem to be running on startup.. how can I confirm? I have checked hwinfo --storage and still runing ata_piix mode not AHCI....17:47
Dr_Williswooo those seem somewhat odd entries for dmask and fmask. normally17:47
dinnahhlp...2 scren but i can switch from one scren  to anoda.had dis problem sins ystadai.try google.no useful info.17:47
th0rwooo, the -o options should come before the device or mountpoint I believe17:47
Dr_Willisdinnah, you may want to retype that question. it was barely readable.17:47
tgm4883jemark, yea I think it's dead17:48
vader__Couls somebody tell me how to change default image veiwer in Elinks from fbi to fbv? fbi does not work in Screen or fbterm.17:49
dinnahDr_willis:i connected my  desktop screen on ma laptop.but i can not switch from my laptop screen to my desktop screen.17:49
jemarktgm4883: there is still Redhat, SUSE and LPI :)17:50
tgm4883well devx is gone now, but since there doesn't appear to be a ubuntu certification anymore, I would suggest he look into an LPI certification. There appears to be an institute in India  http://www.lpi.org/international-affiliates/affiliate-locations17:50
Dr_Willis dinnah  for my laptop i used the special fn-FKEYS to toggle between the 2. or i  used the video/screen config tools to enable/clone both (or use an extended desktop)17:50
tgm4883jemark, correct, just not ubuntu17:50
jemarktgm4883: indeed17:51
tgm4883jemark, and IIRC, the LPI one gets you Linux+ and possibly the suse one as well17:51
tgm4883jemark, eg. getting certified in one gets you certified in the others without needing to test17:51
jemarktgm4883: I know, I have LPIC217:51
tgm4883nice17:51
tgm4883jemark, I've thought about going for those certs, but I'm not sure what it would gain me over what I have now17:52
Dr_Willisanother line to add to your resume. ;)17:52
cplxJordan_U: you around ??17:52
jemarktgm4883: I agree, you won't gain anything... other than a paper.17:52
dinnahDr_Willis:ok...i think i can work with fn-KEYS...bt i have no idea how they work.17:52
saiarcot895cplx: you can try putting the switch in /etc/default/grub and running sudo update-grub17:52
tgm4883Dr_Willis, but does that gain me anything over experience? I'm currently the team lead of our system admin team where we run primarily Ubuntu servers along side a few redhat and windows servers17:53
tgm4883I've not seen any job postings that want an LPI, if anything, they usually want RHCE17:53
cplxsaiarcot895: just add that exact command anywhere in that /etc/default/grub file?17:54
jemarktgm4883: yes, RHCE is more wanted, or LPIC3 ;)17:54
zykotick9vader__: i'd look for a #elinks channel, see "/msg ubottu alis" for a freenode search option.  i am an elinks user as well, but i doubt there are too many others here in #ubuntu...  best of luck.17:54
Dr_Willistgm4883,  when your next interview is with a 18 yr old in charge of hireing.. ;)     he wont understand what experience is.17:54
saiarcot895cplx: It will probably go at the end of GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT17:54
tgm4883Dr_Willis, heh, possibly17:54
Dr_Willistgm4883,  hopefully that wont happen.17:54
vader__will do zykotick9, thanks.17:54
saiarcot895cplx: I haven't heard of that command, though17:55
cplxsaiarcot895: "quiet splash" ? where would I add the setpci command17:55
tgm4883Dr_Willis, hopefully any future job interviews would be done by people of a technical background. But I agree, getting past HR to that interview certification would probably help17:55
Dr_Williscplx,  between the 2 is a good place.17:55
Dr_Willis"quiet      <insert here>   splash"17:56
cplxDr_Willis: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet setpci -d 8086:3b28 90.b=40 splash"17:56
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saiarcot895cplx: once you run sudo update-grub and restart, if things don't go well (as in it doesn't boot), in the Grub boot menu, use e to edit the boot configuration and remove the command you entered.17:57
Dr_Williscplx,  you sure that setpci is a kernel option?  it sure dont look like one17:57
saiarcot895cplx: that looks right17:57
Dr_Williscant say ive ever seen setpci used befor.17:57
cplxsaiarcot895: update-grub or update-grub2 ?17:57
saiarcot895cplx: either17:57
saiarcot895cplx: they'll do the same thing17:57
zykotick9s/they'll do the same/they ARE the same/17:58
cplxthanks saiarcot89517:58
saiarcot895zykotick9: true17:58
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pepper_chicoHey, I've seen news about an ubuntu countdown, is it inaccessible now?18:03
saiarcot895pepper_chico: interesting, it doesn't seem to be up now18:04
OerHekspepper_chico, right, that countdown 4 days is gone http://www.ubuntu.com18:04
pepper_chicoanyone knows with high probability for what the count down was?18:06
pepper_chicofirst phone?18:06
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k1lpepper_chico: just sit and wait, or guess in #ubuntu-offtopic18:06
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pepper_chicoI sit and wait then18:06
k1lpepper_chico: well, that will be some long sitting and waiting :)18:08
pepper_chicono problem18:08
cplxDr_Willis: I added it how you suggest and doesn't look like it switched over to AHCI... i have done some reading and looks like it needs to be added to /boot/grub/grub.cfg above the 'set root' line - can this be done while booting up and using the 'e' command on boot?18:09
cplxsaiarcot895:  I added it how you suggest and doesn't look like it18:09
cplx              switched over to AHCI... i have done some reading and looks like18:09
cplx              it needs to be added to /boot/grub/grub.cfg above the 'set root'18:09
cplx              line - can this be done while booting up and using the 'e'18:09
cplx              command on boot?18:09
FloodBot1cplx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:10
cplxmy bad...18:10
pepper_chicoya know one thing, I'm seeing to much hate against ubuntu… now that's it aiming at profit… well anyway, I like it and at last, it's promoting linux at another spheres18:10
rcmaehlHelp! My sound crashes everytime I connect my A2DP device to it18:10
rcmaehlUbuntu 13.04 64-bit18:10
saiarcot895cplx: I think you have to do that within Ubuntu18:11
k1lrcmaehl: did take a look into the logs or get any error messages?18:11
saiarcot895cplx: then run update-grub18:11
cplxsaiarcot895: /boot/grub/grub.cfg is read-only?18:12
rcmaehlk1l, what log would it be under?18:12
saiarcot895cplx: you can either edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg directly (in which case you have to repeat the change every time you or the system does update-grub) or edit the files in /etc/grub.d18:13
saiarcot895cplx: if the former, you need sudo18:13
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OerHekssaiarcot895, Configuration changes are normally made to the /etc/default/grub file and to the custom scripts located in /etc/grub.d. No changes are made to the GRUB 2 menu until the update-grub command is run as root. This command runs the GRUB 2 configuration scripts and updates the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file.18:17
OerHekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub218:17
OerHeksso please do not edit that file, it has a warning included also.18:18
sdmwHi folks :) Anyone to help me pls? Today i`m install Ubuntu 11.04, but not impossible to install none application or program ]; "E: Unable to locate package "18:18
OerHekssdmw, 11.04 is EOL end of life18:19
OerHeks!11.0418:19
ubottuUbuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) was the fourteenth release of Ubuntu. Desktop support ended on October 28, 2012. See !upgrade, !lts and !eol for more details.18:19
RichturdHows ubuntu these days18:19
OerHekssdmw, update servers are empty, but !eolugrade has a solution if you really want to18:20
sdmwOerHeks: i don`t want diferent version or upgrade18:20
OerHekssdmw, oke, just add old-releases >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Requirements18:20
sdmwGnome version for 13.04 or etc... not good. sorry for my english18:21
sdmwot tnx OerHeks18:21
OerHekssdmw, but then you are on your own, no guarantees.18:21
OerHeksRichturd, try it.18:22
RichturdOerHeks, is it a good idea to dual boot when I'm running windows to run both windows and ubuntu18:24
rypervencheRichturd: Sure.18:25
OerHeksRichturd, sure, the real experience. you can test it in live mode too, just burn the iso or use an usb-device.18:25
k1lrcmaehl_ghoster: syslog or dmesg in /var/log18:25
rcmaehl_ghosterk1l, thanks18:25
RichturdI'm running a PC desktop with 2 gigs of ram and 160 GB of HDD so I'm looking to upgrade the ram and disk space18:25
Richturdwhen I do that, Id like to maybe dual boot18:26
k1lrcmaehl_ghoster: if its after a reboot take a look at the syslog.0 or dmesg.0 they are from last boot18:26
OerHeks2 Gb is fine, more important is your Videocard and CPU, duocore would be great.18:26
Richturdmy GPU was top tits back 4 years ago18:28
Richturdmy CPU is a intel Quad processor18:28
RichturdQ830018:28
rcmaehlk1l, found something18:28
rcmaehlJul 20 14:06:04 Netbook-Two pulseaudio[10921]: [pulseaudio] hook-list.c: Assertion 'hook->n_firing == 0' failed at pulsecore/hook-list.c:51, $18:28
rypervencheRichturd: I'm running Gentoo on an EeePC with 2 G of RAM and an Atom processor. It can handle both operating systems just fine :)18:28
drow-ubvm_now gpu cpu chip is dorito18:28
rypervencheRichturd: The little thing is about 4+ years old as well.18:29
Richturdwhats Gentoo?18:29
Richturdis that Linux18:29
OerHeksthere are more desktops than ubuntu/unity, Lubuntu (LXDE) is the lightest, then midrange would be xubuntu (XFCE)18:30
OerHeksgentoo is an other distro, also based on the linux kernel18:30
Richturdwhich OS other than Windows and Mac is there out there18:31
SonikkuAmerica!distro18:31
ubottuOther !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)18:31
OerHeksthnx SonikkuAmerica :-D18:31
k1lRichturd: alot. bot that is too much for ubunut support channel18:31
heinrich5991!bsd18:31
SonikkuAmericaOerHeks: Always glad to tag-team. :D18:31
rypervencheheinrich5991: No love for you :(18:31
RichturdI'm thinking of going with 8 gigs of ram and 1 TB of HDD18:31
RichturdI'd like to keep the GPU and CPU18:32
k1lRichturd: that is fine for dualboot18:32
sfan5can I use my android phone as 3G modem with Ubuntu? (tethering is not an option)18:32
k1lRichturd: which video card is it?18:32
RichturdGeForce Nvidea 9800 GTX, kll18:32
k1lRichturd: well, nvidia geforce should work with the nvidia-current driver. that is easy to test with a live-cd/usb18:33
Richturdkll, speak english please18:34
Richturdput it in lamens18:34
rypervencheRichturd: It should worl just fine.18:34
RichturdI can play GTA IV and FarCry 2 at the highest settings18:35
Richturdis that good18:35
Richturdnow I cant game though cuz I aint got any space on my hdd18:35
brontosaurusrexRichturd, iam pretty sure windows have some sort of "delete" option18:37
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Richturdwhy are you being a smart ass18:38
Dr_Williswas there a support question in all this somewhere?18:39
Dr_Willissfan5,  you mean over a usb cable?18:39
k1lDr_Willis: nope. just a troll. known to bantracker18:39
sfan5Dr_Willis: yes18:40
Dr_Willissfan5,  network manager has settings for the i recall. I just use the hotspot feature mainly here.18:40
sfan5Dr_Willis: but can I use it with the "mobile broadband" option?18:41
Dr_Willisthats the option to use i belive.18:43
marcolondonukI am no Ubuntu expert. I just managed to install 12.04 on HDD from USB live but booting is very slow and also in some cases I get all purple screen unless I press SHIFT (right) to access GRUB, in which case I am able to book ok, but still after a wait of say 4-5 minutes! I tried to check if anything is wrong with the boot by installing bootchart. The png file for that is here http://oi42.tinypic.com/2j5x4iu.jpg however I have no18:45
SonikkuAmericamarcolondonuk: Can you finish?18:46
sfan5Dr_Willis: it doesn't show my device as modem there18:48
marcolondonukYes, sorry, I meant what clues is that bootchart files giving me to determine where the bottleneck is and how to fix it?18:48
Dr_Williscould be its an unsupported phone sfan5  - You may want to check the excte make/model on the forums and askubuntu.com18:48
* sfan5 has Samsung Galaxy Ace with 2.3.618:49
Dr_Willisyou may also want to ask in #android18:49
Naphatulcan someone explain the "runlevel" on upstart scripts?18:50
Dr_Willisi thought it was for backward compatabilty with the old sysv method.18:50
Dr_Willishttp://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/18:51
Naphatulwell it's on the "Writing services" part of the wii18:51
Naphatul*wiki18:51
Dr_Willishttp://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#runlevels18:51
geniiI'm amused to see upstart and runlevels in the same line18:52
h341y#join18:53
Naphatulwell i have no idea, i just want to start a program on system boot and that's where i ended up, systemd seems a lot simpler18:54
h341y#ubuntu-offtopic18:54
saiarcot895h341y: try /join #ubuntu-offtopic18:55
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Naphatulwell i'm getting this error: http://pastebin.com/HHJdFDXB18:57
Naphatuland this is the script: http://pastebin.com/VrxvvJxY  , it's in /etc/init/18:57
marcolondonukI am no Ubuntu expert. I just managed to install 12.04 on HDD from USB live but booting is very slow and also in some cases I get all purple screen unless I press SHIFT (right) to access GRUB, in which case I am able to book ok, but still after a wait of say 4-5 minutes! I tried to check if anything is wrong with the boot by installing bootchart. The png file for that is here http://oi42.tinypic.com/2j5x4iu.jpg however I have no19:00
saiarcot895Naphatul: typically, you place the script in /etc/init.d19:01
saiarcot895Naphatul: /etc/init is for configuration files19:01
Naphatulsaiarcot895: i just did the writing services part here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto19:02
Naphatuldo i need to place a separate script in /etc/init.d ?19:02
saiarcot895Naphatul: scratch what I said; I was thinking about init.d stuff19:03
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cachacahitahello everybody19:04
Naphatulmarcolondonuk: i can't see anything on that image, perhaps upload the png bootchart generates?19:04
cachacahitaI need help19:04
cachacahitaI can t use the Fn +F8 and Fn +F9 to decrease increase the brightness19:05
Okitaincachacahita: here, there is a guide for you:19:05
cachacahitamy video card is intel hd400019:05
saiarcot895Naphatul: it's "inadyn start", not "start inadyn"19:06
Okitainhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight19:06
warrior2031hi19:06
warrior2031can anyone help me with PPPoE?19:06
cachacahitaok Okitain19:09
cachacahitaI will read the information19:09
marcolondonukNaphatul: Hello you only need to click on the link to see the png generated image19:09
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das3inHi all, I was wondering if anyone could recommend a laptop to me. Something comperable to a macbook pro that i'd use for web development, i just prefer ubuntu to os x19:12
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subcoolany old schoolers here can tell me what arcade game Pacific rim is based off of19:14
wilee-nileedas3in, preferring ubuntu and polling for info is off topic19:15
Slacko786subcool, is it defo based off an arcade game?19:15
subcooldefo?19:15
Slacko786definately19:15
wilee-nileedas3in, However there are ubuntu certified computers look for the wiki.19:15
subcoolheck yea19:15
subcooli use to play it as a kid19:15
Slacko786maybe a cartoon?19:16
DJones!ot | subcool Slacko78619:16
ubottusubcool Slacko786: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:16
subcoolblah19:16
Slacko786transformers I was thinking of...?19:16
subcoolnope an old school arcade game.19:16
Slacko786ok19:16
subcoolim 30, so before i was 10.19:16
Naphatulphone battery went out, thanks19:16
Slacko786I don't remember any games similar (that doesn't mean there is none) but I'm 4419:17
subcoolyou could pick a robot to be, and then a few lil sea monster would come and destroy a city. you could basically do wrestling moves on them. throw building at them. it was really cool19:17
DJonessubcool: Please move the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is for Ubuntu support questions19:17
Dr_Willis!info mame19:17
ubottumame (source: mame): Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator (MAME). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.146-5 (raring), package size 19567 kB, installed size 67324 kB19:17
Slacko786ok thx DJones19:17
subcoolThanks Dr_Willis  - ill see if one of those still have it.19:18
Dr_Willisif its an old arcade game.. mame most likely can do it.19:19
Slacko786is Djones a bot?19:19
Naphatulnow i'm getting another error: W:INADYN: Main: Error 'RC_CMD_PARSER_INVALID_OPTION' (0x50).19:19
DJonesSlacko786: Nope19:19
Slacko786oh ok :)19:19
subcoolno- just an @19:19
Naphatuli ran the program standalone and it worked so i'm pretty sure it's something wrong with the script19:20
Okitainsubcool: It's not directly based on anything, but I think the idea of a kaiju versus robot is quite easy to think of.19:22
subcoolits based off an old school game.19:25
Naphatulanyone? the script in question: http://pastebin.com/VrxvvJxY19:25
subcooli use to play it when iw as a kid.. i was pretty good too. im on my way of fniding it-19:26
AmpelbeinNaphatul: Where did you put the config file for inadyn?19:30
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NaphatulAmpelbein: in /etc, when i run inadyn alone it doesn't give me any errors, the upstart script is in /etc/init19:30
Dr_Willisupstart script may be using 'sh' and not bash, and may not have the same default path, or other variables your shell is using.19:32
subcoolFOunf it- King of the MOnsters19:33
NaphatulDr_Willis: i'm not sure what you're getting at19:34
Dr_WillisNaphatul,   check your shell settings and paths.19:34
Naphatuloh wait, should i have made the script executable?19:34
AmpelbeinNaphatul: No.19:35
Dr_Willisif you are executeing it directly, yes.  and have a proper #!/whatver/bash  line19:35
Dr_Willisbut im not clear on what you are starting/how/where.  I do know people often have issues with BASH in their shell vs the shell the services use due to paths and other variables19:35
AmpelbeinDr_Willis: Upstart files are not shell scripts.19:35
Naphatuli still don't know what i'm supposed to be looking at my shell settings for, i didn't put anything specific there19:35
Dr_WillisAmpelbein,  then how did he run it 'stand alone' ?19:36
AmpelbeinNaphatul: Have you tried passing the --input_file parameter in the upstart script?19:36
AmpelbeinDr_Willis: Presumably by starting inadyn directly.19:36
NaphatulAmpelbein: no, what does that do?19:39
Naphatulthis is weird google is telling me that the error is related to inadyn but when i run it standalone the logs say it's working fine19:39
AmpelbeinNaphatul: It specifies the config file to use directly. I.e.: exec /usr/sbin/inadyn --imput_file /etc/inadyn.conf19:39
Ampelbeins/sim/in/19:40
Ampelbein exec /usr/sbin/inadyn --input_file /etc/inadyn.conf19:40
Naphatultried adding that still nothing19:41
Naphatulapparently i missed the first error: W:INADYN:CMD_LINE_OPT: Invalid option name at position 2 ('start')19:42
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AmpelbeinNaphatul: my bad. Apparently that option call was changed. Let me check.19:45
samosfatorHello19:45
AmpelbeinNaphatul: well, the command was changed somewhere between precise and saucy. In the latter versions it's simply "--config /etc/inadyn.conf"19:47
NaphatulAmpelbein: still getting the same error, perhaps there is something wrong with my config file that doesn't work when invoked like that: http://pastebin.com/xv9Cr9hw19:49
Naphatulthought i find it very weird that it works fine when just using it normally19:50
AmpelbeinNaphatul: Yeah, that's why I suspected inadyn uses some different file for startup. You could add "verbose 5" for maximum logging and see if that turns stuff up in the syslog.19:51
Naphatulit updates fine i get a W message but the HTTP code in it says OK19:55
xrandrHello, is there a way to get a secure token for Ubuntu One so I can connect to it via another cloud ?19:56
AmpelbeinNaphatul: Wait, so it works after setting "verbose"? That's... unexpected.19:56
ngaDownload Vietnam Rising Dragon ebook19:57
Ampelbeinnga: http://www.amazon.com/Vietnam-Rising-Dragon-ebook/dp/B004UDV0XY19:57
DJonesnga: THis is Ubuntu support, looks like you have the wrong channel19:57
NaphatulAmpelbein: no no, upstart still gives the same error19:57
AmpelbeinNaphatul: Is anything else meaningful in /var/log/upstart/inadyn.log? Or in syslog?19:58
AmpelbeinNaphatul: you might have to add "console log" to the inadyn upstart script.20:00
NaphatulAmpelbein: it makes no entries to syslog (when i try to run it with upstart), and i don't see a /var/log/upstart/ entry20:00
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Naphatulso i just add "console log" at the start of the script?20:01
Ampelbeinyes20:02
Naphatulnothing :(20:02
trismNaphatul: you aren't accidentally passing the upstart script as the config file are you?20:03
joshlegs:( hm. ubuntu forums got hacked ?/20:04
Naphatultrism: i'm not sure what you mean, the wiki said i need to make a config file in /etc/init , thats the only thing i did20:04
Naphatuli didn't mention i needed to do other things20:04
joshlegswww.ubuntuforums.org20:05
trismNaphatul: it is just that I see earlier you are exec inadyn --config /path; but the config error complains about 'start' being an invalid option, which would be one of the first stanzas in the upstart conf20:06
k1ljoshlegs: yes, discussion please in #ubuntu-offtopic20:06
joshlegsahhh thanks k1l20:06
trismNaphatul: so I was just wondering if /etc/inadyn.conf was the upstart script and not the config file for inadyn20:06
Naphatultrism: nope, inadyns config is in /etc/ and the upstart script in /etc/init, just checked again20:07
form4does ubuntu touch have support for the iPad?20:10
trismNaphatul: maybe if you pastebin both the upstart job and the config file someone might see the error? (I don't see them in the scrollback)20:10
form4if it were to be jailbroken20:10
k1lform4: #ubuntu-touch is the right channel but i doubt it will run on apple hardware20:10
form4;/20:10
reisioform4: more to it than jailbreaking for most tablets20:11
Naphatulupstart script: http://pastebin.com/e8GsMyna, inadyn config: http://pastebin.com/xv9Cr9hw20:11
gamb_sIm in troubles... I installed windows with ubuntu. I had to shrink the ext4 partition with gparted20:11
reisioform4: most tablets use secure boot keys20:11
gamb_snow it says ,, general errors monting filesystems,,20:11
gamb_si rebuilt grub using bootrepair20:12
gamb_scan someone help me?20:12
wormwoodgreetings all, aside from enabling ip_forward how can I get my network (10.1.10.0/24) to see virbr0 ip range (192.168.122.0/24)? Running kvm/qemu and having vm instances join the virbr0 bridge. I can ping 192.168.122.1 but can't ping other address in the 192.168.122.0/24 network20:13
wilee-nileegamb_s, post the url of the bootinfo summary20:14
gamb_swilee-nilee: ok, Ill try to get one20:14
Naphatultrism: didi you see the scripts?20:14
AmpelbeinNaphatul: I just used that init script on a ubuntu precise installation and it worked.20:14
wilee-nileegamb_s, You can run just it.20:14
AmpelbeinNaphatul: what ubuntu version are you using?20:14
NaphatulAmpelbein: ehm, i'm running lubuntu, doesn't that use upstart aswell?20:15
AmpelbeinNaphatul: doesn't matter.20:15
gamb_swilee-nilee: Its currently running with "fix filesystems" options. i have to wait for finish now right?20:15
AmpelbeinNaphatul: What version is it? (12.04, 12.10, 13.04)?20:16
NaphatulAmpelbein: 13.0420:16
wilee-nileegamb_s, It will have a popup with the address20:16
hector_i'm outdated when it comes to linux, specially ubuntu. now that i'm back i've heard nvidia has released drivers with optimus support and that we don't need bumblebee anymore. i'm trying to get the latest driver through "software & updates" > "additional drivers" but there's nothing shown there. 670m here.20:17
wilee-nileehector_, Is there problem other than no driver shown?20:18
AmpelbeinNaphatul: When you start inadyn (sudo service inadyn start), does it say anything else besides giving the error?20:18
hector_wilee-nilee: not that i'm aware of, but since there's nothing displayed there i cannot get the driver.20:19
NaphatulAmpelbein: well with the correct way of running it, now it doesn't20:19
wilee-nileehector_, I'm not familiar with optimus, I just wonder if you are fine, the drivers needed are loaded.20:19
AmpelbeinNaphatul: How did you start it before?20:20
hector_wilee-nilee: currently it says that i'm using the onboard video card from intel, funny fact is that it acts like i don't own the nvidia card because it shows absolutely nothing at the additional drivers.20:20
NaphatulAmpelbein: well somewhere along the lines i forgot to write service and i've been going up arrow enter the whole time20:20
yusdohi is there someone that use piklab for pic microcontroller development?20:20
AmpelbeinNaphatul: he.20:21
Naphatulso no wonder it's complaining i'm trying to pass "start" as a parameter to it20:21
iceroothector_: there is no additional driver for optimus20:21
sarthorHi, How to chnage writing font in browers using latest ubuntu.20:21
Naphatulhah well that was idiotic20:21
AmpelbeinNaphatul: Well, problem solved I guess ;-) (Better reboot and see if it truely works).20:21
iceroothector_: nvidia is not offering such driver, so you have to use bumblebee to use the nvidia card as you whish, bumblebee is a wrapper for the x-server to manage intel cards (with open source driver) and the nvidia driver (non free driver directly from nvidia)20:22
hector_iceroot: basically what you're saying is that a fresh install of 13.04 comes with the latest nvidia drivers? including the one that ships with optimus support? i'm a little confused as of now.20:22
gamb_swilee-nilee: it has been running now for around 20 minutes, is it right?20:22
Naphatulyep i'll go do a reboot, brb20:22
hector_iceroot: wow, are you sure nvidia isn't offering optimus support? multiple sources say so.20:22
iceroothector_: google "linus torvalds nvidia f*ck you"20:22
iceroothector_: i am not aware of a driver which is switching between intel and nvidia20:23
hector_iceroot: i know that but nvidia dropped optimus support due to steam support to linux.20:23
iceroothector_: the main problem is the kernel-licence because they need to access some areas where non-free is not allowed20:24
iceroothector_: nvidia is offering a driver for the nvidia part of optimus, yes. but optimus means "switch between these two cards and only use the nvidia card when needed"20:24
hector_iceroot: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/13/04/09/2246207/nvidia-releases-optimus-linux-driver-with-new-features20:24
wilee-nileegamb_s, should finish much sooner, you had it running when you first posted?20:25
noob7hey, does someone use gdb for debugging and can tell if I need ulimit -c unlimited to get a backtrace/stacktrace20:25
iceroothector_: ah ok but i am not sure if that driver is supporting the real-time switiching but good to know and thank you for that info20:25
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noob7or can I get a backtrace without doing "ulimit -c unlimited"20:25
gamb_swilee-nilee: yeah, i decided to ask help when it was already running. I made it running with check filesystems and fix maybe that has slowed this much?20:26
k1lhector_: "that basically allows for Optimus-like functionality " that doesnt sound like: here you have a 100% working optimus20:26
pZombie1hello friends20:26
k1lhector_: im not aware of a working optimus like in the windows drivers.20:26
icerootk1l: bumblebee20:26
pZombie1I think my computer has a system management rootkit on it. I run ubuntu. Can you tell me how to remove it?20:26
reisiok1l: you're not aware of much, then :)20:27
icerootpZombie1: why do you think that?20:27
reisiopZombie1: backup, reinstall20:27
k1liceroot: besides bumblebee :)20:27
wilee-nileegamb_s, I'm only sightly familiar with it I never use it, except to get the bootscript from others, it seems to help many, however, all it does can be done in a terminal.20:27
reisiopZombie1: use AIDE/etc. in future to avoid reinstallation20:27
k1lbut bumblebee doesnt work as the windows driver, it cant shut the nvidia card down it just can switch between both running20:27
pZombie1reisio reinstall will remove the system management rootkit from my computer?20:27
gamb_swilee-nilee: is it safe to interrupt it?20:27
hector_k1l: even if we assume that there's no optimus fully support at the present moment it won't help me to be honest. additional drivers won't recognize that i own a nvidia card so it's not giving me any driver to download.20:28
reisiopZombie1: if it lives on the hard disk, yes20:28
hector_my only choice is to download the driver straight from nvidia's website and install it manually myself, k1l.20:28
pZombie1reisio - someone told me i need a hammer to remove it20:28
reisiopZombie1: nah20:28
Naphatulwell it says inadyn is running but not seeing the syslog messages20:28
k1lhector_: why dont you work with the bumblebee howtos?20:28
wilee-nileegamb_s, Not sure, at this point, I did not know it had a check file systems options.20:28
pZombie1reisio are you sure SMM rootkits live on the HDD?20:29
hector_k1l: because in the ubuntu's wiki it tells you do go through the additional drivers thing.20:29
reisiopZombie1: smm is meaningless AFAIK, either it lives on the hard disk or it doesn't20:29
wilee-nileehector_, If you use nvidia's driver you will have to mess with it on every kernel update.20:30
Estrobedahello, i have tried alot to find a place to buy a computer with ubuntu preinstalled, but i cant find any. I have searched for asus, acer lenovo and places like linux paradise or something (here i do find the computers but i don't understand the specs) do someone have any suggestions?20:30
reisiopZombie1: if it lives on the hard disk, replacing all the data on the hard disk will remove it20:30
hector_k1l: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve#NVIDIA_Graphics20:30
pZombie1reisio - someone told me it lives on the motherboard firmware20:30
reisioEstrobeda: dell sells a few20:30
Guest44705Hi, I've used Xubuntu 12.04 for maybe the past four months, and I have been getting a black screen saying, "press any key to continue" after start up. Pressing any key doesn't work, so I have to wait quite awhile for the Xubuntu to pop up and then another while for the log in screen to pop up. I read on Ubuntu help that there could be an error and how to fix it by getting into the Grub menu and then some then some grub commands in th20:30
Guest44705e terminal. But after I had gone to the grub menu before logging in, it said that I had an error that reads, "hd0 out of disk". The delay when starting the computer with "press any key to continue" is a new thing just recently. What should I do?20:30
reisioEstrobeda: system 76 sells some more20:30
hector_the problem there is that my additional drivers won't detect anything.20:30
k1lhector_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee20:30
k1lwhere does it say that?20:30
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Estrobedaok thx alot i will check them out =D20:30
gamb_scupsd, pkill and pidof are using 100/100 cpu20:31
gamb_sis it normal?20:31
hector_k1l: but i'd like to know why my software & updates won't detect anything like in the image shown to you at this site https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve#NVIDIA_Graphics20:31
reisiopZombie1: if it lives on firmware, you'd have to wipe or replace that20:31
wilee-nileeEstrobeda, https://www.system76.com/  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuPre-installed20:31
reisiopZombie1: or cease to use it, etc.20:31
k1lhector_: see the link i gave you20:32
k1lhector_: my link is the bumblebee howto.20:32
hector_k1l: i'm going to go ahead and use bumblebee but it doesn't answer to my question, i really want to know why my software & updates won't detect stuff that it should.20:32
wilee-nileeEstrobeda, I would be careful with a pre-install ubuntu, you may not get support here, just saying.20:32
k1lhector_: because there is no nvidia driver for real optimus it only runs on the intel card and doesnt find the drivers for the nvidia.20:32
MonkeyDustshould rootkits worry me? what are signs of the presence of one?20:32
DaughainWhere can I find some help with scratchbox2?20:32
hector_k1l: ok.20:33
Estrobedaok20:33
k1lhector_: blame nvidia for not bringing the drivers properly.20:33
wilee-nileeEstrobeda, sytem76 though has a section at the now hacked ubuntu forums, lol20:33
reisioMonkeyDust: your credit cards and bank information being used20:34
wilee-nileeI would go system76 if I were to get a pre-install myself, a bit overpriced, but supported.20:34
gamb_swilee-nilee: it seems like my grub config is quite empty bootinfo is coming btw20:35
reisioMonkeyDust: if you use only software built by the distro maintainers, and keep up to date, they're pretty unlikely20:35
reisioMonkeyDust: if you're truly concerned, though, just install something like AIDE after you install20:35
gamb_salso, could uefi be a problem?20:35
gamb_sI tried to disable it20:35
MonkeyDustreisio  i'm not paranoid, just curious20:35
wilee-nileegamb_s, That will cause problems was this a uefi to begin with or you installed that way with both OS?20:36
gamb_swilee-nilee: I installed both oses with uefi disabled20:36
gamb_si think its disabled...20:36
gamb_swilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5895253/20:36
wilee-nileegamb_s, Is it a safeboot computer?20:36
reisioMonkeyDust: well I didn't give you more information because I thought you weren't curious...20:37
gamb_swilee-nilee: extended also should be the swap... maybe i could try recreating swap? I dont know. is there a way to know if it is?20:38
wilee-nileegamb_s, That is mint, it is not supported here, however I see no uefi. Honestly windows should be in sda1, and linux afterward for ease of use.20:40
gazheadforum haxed?20:40
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zacktuI have a Canon PIXMA printer that works great as a network printer on one computer (Ubuntu 12.04).  I'm trying to add it to another computer (Xubuntu 12.04).   I've installed cups-bjnp on the second computer, and the printer has been discovered.  When I try to print a test page, I'm told that I need to set the "Enabled" policy.  I check enabled, but as soon as I try to use the printer the...20:40
zacktu...enabled setting is unchecked.  Any suggestions?20:40
Guest44705Nobody is answering here. I feel like making a clean burn of Xubuntu on a CD and sticking it in my computer for a clean install. What do you think?20:41
reisioGuest44705: sounds like a decent way to install Xubuntu20:41
wilee-nileegamb_s, For best use I would clone mint with clonezilla and wipe the drive install windows in sda1 and insert mint afterwards. Not sure why it is not booting, it basically looks as it should.20:42
gazheadUBUNTU FORUM HACKED20:42
MonkeyDustGuest44705  fresh install is the fastest, easiest and cleanest way to install20:42
wilee-nileeprobably a file system prob maybe a fsck is needed20:42
MonkeyDustgazhead  no caps, please20:42
gamb_swilee-nilee: also, fs is mounted in readonly then, and all files are there. Strange20:42
Guest44705I just am having trouble turning on my computer and waiting to find a black screen that says, "press any key to continue" and waiting again for "Xubuntu" and waiting again for the log in screen. Didn't have to do that before.20:43
wilee-nileegamb_s, You might consider getting out what you need from mint and just doing a fresh install of ubuntu after loading windows to the first partition, or partitions if you want the ms boot partition.20:44
Guest44705So, you think a clean install is the ticket/20:44
wilee-nileegamb_s, Better more support with ubuntu is all.20:44
Guest44705Can I make a clean install right off the internet without the burned CD that I stick in the computer?20:46
wilee-nileeGuest44705, If you have grub you can boot a mini iso and do a netload or a regular live session20:46
Guest44705So, what do you mean? I have Xubuntu and grub I think. I was just in the Grub menu by pressing shift after the Bio when starting up.20:48
wilee-nileeGuest44705, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot20:48
wilee-nileeGuest44705, Having a disc or usb is about your best tool though.20:49
Guest44705Thanks!20:50
joshu_us http://ubuntuforums.org down?20:51
joshu_*is20:51
k1ljoshu_: yes20:51
hot6ljust went to ubuntu forums and came across a very strange thing20:51
wilee-nileejoshu_, #ubuntuforums is the best info20:51
joshu_k1l ok thanks20:51
hot6l"you don goofed" with mention of rootkit20:51
hot6land some base64 encoded img20:52
k1lhot6l: #ubuntuforums20:52
hot6lkk20:52
MonkeyDustjoshu_  yes, ubuntuforums is down, just checked20:52
joshu_thanks MonkeyDust20:52
MonkeyDustjoshu_  http://downorisitjustme.com/20:52
joshu_MonkeyDust on #ubuntuforums seems as if it's a hack attack or something20:54
MonkeyDustjoshu_  the website maintainers will take care of it, if it is20:54
k1ljoshu_: yes. but that is not our business in here. this is an ubuntu support channel, not a ubuntuforums support channel :)20:54
joshu_k1l sure was just replying to the conversation. Will just wait it out.20:55
sabayonweb3295i was wondering is there a website that explains how modprobing is possible. I know how to use modprobe but i really want a deeper understanding and all i can seem to find is websites on the usage of the commnd.20:55
econdudeawesomehowdy all. Having a hard time getting 12.04 to recognize I plugged in a printer. USB ports work fine it appears, I've tried numerous cables. What to do now?!?20:55
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jhutchinssabayonweb3295: Might be something at kernel.org20:56
sabayonweb3295jhutchins: ok ill look there :D ty20:56
gaz1310*cough*20:57
gaz1310*snif*20:57
gaz1310ok peeps20:58
gaz1310forum fuked?20:58
grasu64or how can I understand the root cause, i have no clue where it halts20:58
k1lgaz1310: #ubuntuforums20:59
MonkeyDustgaz1310  yes, the website maintainers will take care of it21:00
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SeegeeDoes anyone know Joobz?21:02
SeegeeOr somene with the name like that..21:02
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DWSRHi there, I'm stuck in a loop with fsck constantly telling me that my root disk has errors, even though it keeps also telling me it's fixed them21:09
DWSRAfter I reboot, it complains about similar errors as the previous iteration, fixes them upon prompt, and then asks for a reboot.21:09
wilee-nileeDWSR, Have you checked the smart check onboard on the HD?21:10
DWSRwilee-nilee: It's a USB flash stick, I doubt SMART works.21:10
wilee-nileeDWSR, This a live load or an iso?21:11
DWSRlivwe21:11
DWSRlive*21:11
DWSRI installed it to there because it was the only disk that I had at the time.21:12
wilee-nileeDWSR, Those have a life time if you are persistent, thew casper-rw will fill up.21:12
wilee-nileethe*21:12
DWSRwilee-nilee: It's not a liveUSB. It's a full install of Ubuntu to a USB stick.21:12
wilee-nileeDWSR, Not sure really, I think you can mess with fstab and stop the fsck though.21:13
DWSRwilee-nilee: That doesn't help, unfortunately. There keeps being disk errors detected, and the disk keeps being remounted ro.21:14
DWSRI have a psare SATA drive.21:14
DWSRspare* now.21:14
hectork1l: i've sucessfully installed bumblebee, now i've followed another guide to get the primus installed and unfortunatelly i've followed an outdated guide which uses another repository than the official bumblebee's one because at first primus wasnt there. it is said that if i want to get the primus from the bumblebee repository i have to purge the old primus stuff.21:19
hectork1l: is it just a matter of use sudo apt-get purge primus *? don't i need to remove the old repository either?21:19
DWSRhector: You will have to remove it afterwards from your repository lists, then sudo apt-get update as well.21:20
DWSROtherwise your system will still think the packages are available from the old source.21:20
crankharderi've got php-fpm installed and running, but there's no socket in /var/run for me to point nginx at.... any ideas why?21:21
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DWSRcrankharder: Is it configured to provide a socket there?21:21
DWSRcheck php.ini21:21
hectorDWSR: basically first i purge all the primus stuff then i remove the old repository or the opposite?21:21
DWSRhector: It shouldn't actually matter.21:22
DWSRhector: But I would purge first.21:22
Dr_Willis!ppa-purge21:22
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html21:22
hectorDWSR: thank you.21:22
DWSRDr_Willis: Suggestion for my problem? I'm having issues with a Ubuntu install on a USB flash stick (not a LiveUSB) that keeps fscking in a loop and now won't boot due to kpanic.21:23
hectorDWSR: is there a command to remove a repository just like the one you use to add?21:25
DWSRhector: See the factoid Dr_Willis linked you. There isn't a builtin for it, but there is a utility built around that idea.21:26
hectorok.21:26
milothebutharCan anyone please take a look at this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5895364/ --- I have execution permission, but the console is telling me I don't have permission to execute...21:26
DWSRmilothebuthar: Do you have execute perms on the directory that that binary is contained in?21:28
milothebutharDWSR: yep..21:31
k1l!ppa-purge | hector21:31
ubottuhector: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html21:31
DWSRmilothebuthar: Can't help you21:31
DWSRmilothebuthar: Wouldn't know where to start.21:31
k1lthat is the best way to get rid of a PPA and the packages from that ppa21:31
DWSRk1l: Suggestion for my problem? I'm having issues with a Ubuntu install on a USB flash stick (not a LiveUSB) that keeps fscking in a loop and now won't boot due to kpanic.21:31
k1lhector: well, saw now ppa-purge was already suggested :)21:32
k1lDWSR: usb flash sticks just die from time to time21:32
DWSRk1l: Yeah, should I use another LiveUSB to copy everything down onto a SATA drive?21:33
DWSRI didn't have a spare disk at the time I did the installation, but I do now.21:33
milothebutharDWSR: ok, how about another issue. I have a c++ application who is crashing... its core dumping, but the core file is "incomplete". The limits for the core file size where already set to unlimited and there is enough space in the hard drive... any ideas?21:33
DWSRmilothebuthar: Not really my area of expertise.21:34
DWSRmilothebuthar: Sorry21:34
k1lDWSR: yes, i would try to save as much as possible from that stick (if it contains data you need). maybe you need ddrescue or such21:34
holsteinDWSR: have you tried booting an older kernel?21:34
MonkeyDustmilothebuthar  430+ people in ##c++21:35
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VasianHELLO UBUNTU WORLD!21:38
rslarsonanyone familiar with the screen utility?21:38
Vasiananyone know how to get netflix working on ubuntu?21:39
ZaWsup sup sup!?!?21:39
VasianANYONE?!?!21:39
holsteinrslarson: yes21:39
holstein!netflix | Vasian21:39
ubottuVasian: If you use Netflix, there is an unofficial solution for using it in Ubuntu detailed in http://www.compholio.com/netflix-desktop/ - bug reports in https://bugs.launchpad.net/netflix-desktop21:39
ZaWgotta question...shit..i feel like a douche for coming on IRC to ask this..but is there a gui app to control my PC's fan speeds?21:39
rslarsonis it possible to turn on multiuser support while creating a new screen?21:39
Vasianoooo thank you holstein!21:40
holstein!language | ZaW21:40
ubottuZaW: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.21:40
ZaWthat is the only thing killing it for me to use Ubuntu 100%21:40
ontheroadagainhttp://www.twitch.tv/lolkevv21:40
ontheroadagainwatch my friend please :)21:40
ZaWsorry21:40
ZaWwow.. ok.21:40
ZaWso back to my question...anyone know of a GUI app to control my PC fans?21:41
ZaWthey blast so fast it is very noisy and annoying21:41
rslarsonI am running a ts3 which starts during bootup and as of right now I have to login to a particular user in order to view the console.  I would likle to be able to just login as myself and change to that screen21:42
rslarson*teamspeak3 server21:42
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AmpelbeinZaW: bug 273187 - But there are some console-tools in the archive for doing that.21:43
ubottubug 273187 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu should ship with a graphical fan speed control tool" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27318721:43
zipyhey, when i am playing a video in vlc, how can i stream it in another format21:43
Dr_Willisrslarson,  you mean on the actual consoles?21:43
Dr_Willisrslarson,  alt-ctrl-f1 and so forth?21:43
rslarsonnot quite21:44
rslarsonI can only accessd the physical machine via ssh so I use the screen comand to create multiple terminals21:44
rslarsonI use screen -dmS ts3 su gameserver -c /home/gameserver/other/ts3/ts3server_minimal_runscript.sh to start the service21:45
wilee-nileeZaW, Have you installed lm-sensors, and checked if you may be running hot.21:45
Zakairplease help me, how can I change the picture of my login background screen?21:45
Zakairhow can I change the background image of my login screen?21:46
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k1lZakair: it uses the background from the users wallpaper, iirc21:46
Zakairk1l: no it does not21:47
Zakairk1l: I use netrunner linux21:47
Zakairhow do I change it21:47
ZaWill have to check that out next time I boot into Ubuntu21:47
rslarsonZakair: this is the Ubuntu channel21:48
ZaWim running my winblows for some BF3 and Space Marine21:48
k1lZakair: well, this is ubuntu support.21:48
Zakairnetrunner linux is based on ubuntu, and uses their repository21:48
Zakairyou can think of netrunner as ubuntu without unity21:48
k1lZakair: come back if you have a ubuntu issue. thanks21:48
Zakairok thnx21:49
rslarsonany ideass?21:49
Dr_Willisrslarson,  its not really clear on what your issue is.. you run screen, it runs your TS3 server as a specific user..  so the problem is?21:55
rslarsonDr_Willis: I have three admins who need to access that screen and they all have their own accounts on the server.  How would I turn multiuser support on while start the process21:56
rslarsonif at all possible21:56
Dr_Willisscreen allows multi connections from differnt people i recall21:58
Dr_WillisI dident even think you had to have somthing like that running to admin ts3.  I thought most of the work can be done from the ts3 clients21:59
DarwinSurvivorDr_Willis: I don't know if you can do that from different user accounts though, I *think* they all have to be signed in as the same user.21:59
rslarsonIt does but as I understand it, I need to go to each screen and turn on multiuser support each time a screen is created21:59
Dr_Willisive seen screen used as a 'several people connected to the same shell' i belive.21:59
Dr_Willisscreen has config files and settings. or you may want to look into tmux21:59
rslarsonWill do22:00
Dr_Willissounds to me like you may be doing it the hard way. if you have 3 'people' all using the same admin account.22:01
Dr_Willists3 supports multi-admins22:01
milothebutharDWSR, thanks for nothing :)22:01
menturiHello :D. Is there a way to check what currently installed packages depend on a given specific package?22:01
Ace[Laptop]hey can anyone explain to me the difference between "Install" and "command line install" on the mini.iso?22:02
Dr_Willisone installs the standrd desktop perhaps. other does not. would be my guess22:03
Dr_Willisdesktop vs server install.22:03
Ace[Laptop]Dr_Willis: mini.iso does not install server or desktop22:03
brontosaurusrexmenturi, apt-get depends something ?22:04
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wilee-nileeAce[Laptop], Is does the base system is the server.22:04
wilee-nileeand other options if you want22:04
brontosaurusrexmenturi, actually its apt-cache depends something22:04
Ace[Laptop]wilee-nilee: the server install includes different a different kernel compared to a minimal install22:05
rslarsonI was just using ts3 as an examaple... I have about 4 other services that I would like to implement this idea on22:05
Ace[Laptop]looks like I'll just hvae to experiment, since of course, there's no documentaiton about any of this22:06
SicpI have this partioning layout, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19390574/partitioning.png  and now I need to install Windows alongside22:06
abirspacemonkeyHey,guys,I m facing some problem in 12.04.2 LTS22:06
SicpI cannot edit the partition where /boot is because I have to unmount it first, but that's the partition that's holding the OS22:06
menturibrontosaurusrex: thank you; I think that one was it.22:06
Sicpwhat can I do?22:06
abirspacemonkeyI've a quite low end apu E-450 with Radeon HD 632022:07
wilee-nileeAce[Laptop], you may be right, I had seen like a 1000 times on this channel that the base is basically the/ server22:07
abirspacemonkeyI've fglx-update and fglx-plugins intalled.22:07
Sicpah, I can run gparted from the LiveCD to do what I need22:07
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Sicpthanks anyways22:07
abirspacemonkeyHello?22:08
wilee-nilee!patience > abirspacemonkey22:08
ubottuabirspacemonkey, please see my private message22:08
Stripehi all, i am using an ubuntu based distro (linux lite) and am having problems with the composoting, i have disabled the xfce compositing, but cant seem to find the underlying compositing in ubuntu, any ideas on how to find or disable it would be great, cheers22:08
wilee-nileeStripe, If it is not ubuntu it is not supported. ;)22:09
Dr_Willisplus theres no underlying compositing. its a feature of the window manager.22:09
abirspacemonkeyHD 6320 only giving standard experience! can't enable 3D :(22:10
Guest68364hi guys, i just hit <Super>+P by a mistake and my nVidia X Server resets on every relog/reboot22:10
wilee-nileeStripe, Try #linuxlite22:10
Dr_Willisabirspacemonkey,  what drivers are you using?22:10
Stripewilee-nilee: sorry, i thought with the compositing being in the ubuntu base it was worth asking in here, thanks anyway :)22:10
Dr_WillisStripe,  its not  in the ubuntu base as far as i know.22:10
wilee-nileeStripe, Not saying you wont get help, just info. ;)22:11
abirspacemonkeyCode- Command: glxinfo22:11
SuperLagfun fun fun... sorry the forums are down. :/22:11
Stripeno problem, thanks  again22:11
abirspacemonkeyname of display 0.022:11
Guest68364can anyone help me please?22:12
abirspacemonkeyYep,forums r down..:s22:12
Guest68364hi guys, i just hit <Super>+P by a mistake and my nVidia X Server resets on every relog/reboot22:12
Guest68364!22:12
SuperLagIs there any way to *permanently* disable the Mic Boost?22:12
wilee-nilee!patience > Guest6836422:12
ubottuGuest68364, please see my private message22:12
* Dr_Willis is not even sure what super-p does22:12
wilee-nileeme neither22:12
abirspacemonkeyGuys,22:12
Dr_Willisand i definatly dont see how that would make the X server crash from then on.. if thats what hes saying22:13
abirspacemonkeyWould kindly tell me how can I enable 3D acceleration?22:13
Guest68364<wilee-nilee> can you find it out?22:14
wilee-nileeDr_Willis, Something to do with xrandr22:14
Dr_Willisabirspacemonkey,  for ati cards. you would noramally install the fglrx drivers22:14
wilee-nileeGuest68364, Something to do with xrandr22:14
wilee-nileeNo idea whats up22:14
Dr_Willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/20113/how-to-stop-mod4-p-from-switching-the-display22:15
abirspacemonkeyfglrx drivers do not give me full acceleration in my case22:15
Guest68364<wilee-nilee> what should i do? !22:15
SuperLagGuest68364: have patience? :)22:15
wilee-nileeGuest68364, pray22:15
SuperLagwilee-nilee: ^522:15
wilee-nileeGuest68364, If we know we generally try to help.22:16
abirspacemonkeyMajor opcode of failed request:  155 (ATIFGLEXTENSION)22:16
abirspacemonkey  Minor opcode of failed request:  66 ()22:16
abirspacemonkey  Serial number of failed request:  1322:16
abirspacemonkey  Current serial number in output stream:  1322:16
FloodBot1abirspacemonkey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:16
Dr_Willisabirspacemonkey,  you are most likely out of luck then. i would be suprised if the open sourced ati drivers provided better 3d acell.22:16
Guest68364<SuperLag> waiting...22:17
abirspacemonkeydid you see the codes I've just sent? @Dr_Willis22:17
Dr_Willisabirspacemonkey,  totally meanintless opcodes to me.22:17
abirspacemonkeywhy?22:18
Dr_Willisbecause i have no idea what they mean,22:18
abirspacemonkeyOh god!22:18
Dr_Willisi dont memorise opcode failure numbers.. actually i rarely use ati any more these days also.22:19
lauri_I can't run fglrx drivers in xubuntu 13.04 amd e-2200 with hd 7430 gfx chip22:20
lauri_can't log in if I install fglrx drivers22:21
lauri_any tip?22:21
Dr_Willisthe login screen works? but the desktop does not? or clarify what happens that keeps you from logging in22:21
lauri_can't get into desktop, only to text based login22:22
mozybonzwhoami22:22
mozybonzheh22:22
lauri_there was something about plymouthd or something like that22:22
Guest68364any solution?!22:22
Dr_Willisplymouth is what does the fancy animation at boot time.22:22
abirspacemonkeyfglx drivers only let me choose 800*400 res22:22
Dr_Willislauri_,  does  'startx' or 'sudo service lightdm start' work or show any errors?22:23
lauri_I tried to start lightdm, but I guess I had wrong command, ended into blank screen22:23
lauri_I tried sudo lightdm restart22:24
k1llauri_: sudo restart lightdm (will do)22:24
lauri_it's weird since just last week my other laptop, that has the same cpu and gpu, worked fine with fglrx22:25
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Guest68364k1l can you help me on this?22:26
Dr_Willisi cant even find any real hits on ANYTHING related to  '7430' ati video chip on askubuntu.com ;)22:26
Guest68364lauri_ ?22:26
Guest68364i just hit <Super>+P by a mistake and my nVidia X Server resets on every relog/reboo22:26
econdudeawesomehowdy all. Having a hard time getting 12.04 to recognize I plugged in a printer. USB ports work fine it appears, I've tried numerous cables. What to do now?!?22:26
Dr_WillisGuest68364,  super-p toggles the internal/external displays it seems.. hit it again, and see if the monitor works? or try plugging in 2 monitors.22:27
Dr_Willisor see if it works for a newly made user.22:27
k1lGuest68364: super-p is resolution change, right? dont know what is going on then22:27
brontosaurusrexGuest68364, sudo nvidia-xconfig < does anything?22:27
Guest68364brontosaurusrex brb relog22:28
Guest68364Dr_Willis i have 2 monitors but all fucked up22:28
Guest68364and its on a mirror mode22:28
eimajenthatOkay, I've got a daemon (it's the New Relic MySQL monitoring plugin, but that's not super relevant).  It comes with a script that goes in /etc/init.d .  I've added that, so I can now start/stop it with sudo service newrelic-mysql-plugin start .  But what do I need to do to have it start on boot.  Is that enough?  Or do I need to edit some other config?22:28
Dr_Willissuper-p is also the same as fn-F8 on many laptops it seems22:29
Guest68364<Dr_Willis> im on PC22:29
Guest68364brb check sudo nvidia-xconfig22:29
brontosaurusrexeimajenthat, readin that script should give you clues22:29
lauri_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI22:31
lauri_that's what I tried to use as guide22:31
lauri_I also noticed that I don't have xorg.conf22:31
lauri_is that still necessary?22:31
Dr_Willisxorg.conf is rarely needed these days22:32
Dr_Willissome of the settings tools do generate a minimal xorg.conf22:32
eimajenthatbrontosaurusrex: but will Ubuntu (Upstart I guess?) just try to run the start command on everything in /etc/init.d/ during boot up, or is that configured elsewhere?22:33
lauri_k22:33
brontosaurusrexeimajenthat, ehm, actually not sure, so i will not say anything.22:35
c_smithHi, I'm trying to get fglrx working on my Lenovo IdeaPad U400 (muxless pair of Intel and Radeon) and whenever I have fglrx installed with the stock X.org stack in 13.04, x.org segfaults. and with the xorg-edgers ppa, I get worse results (xorg crashes, and can't access a tty, so I have to chroot), is this a known problem? and is there even a workaround?22:36
brontosaurusrexeimajenthat, (it does work that way on debian)22:36
lauri_c_smith did that start just recently...?22:37
c_smithlauri_: been this way through the entire 13.04 cycle.22:37
lauri_ok22:37
c_smithworked with 12.10, but 12.10 is the first release I could install due to other previous problems that I fixed, namely figuring out UEFI,22:37
c_smithkinda doubting the fact that I'm using Kubuntu makes a difference, because Ubuntu and Kubuntu use the same x.org stack.22:39
eimajenthathmm, looks like I might need to do update-rc.d22:39
lauri_I got pretty much same problem with xubuntu 13.0422:39
c_smitheimajenthat: give me a sec to get x.org installed to test that theory.22:39
c_smith*fglrx, not x.org22:40
tgm4883c_smith, not sure if it helps, but I've got a radeon 7600m and intel hd 4000 in my inspiron 14z and both sides of this hybrid graphics setup work great. I had to install the prop driver from amd though and also use a different xserver-xorg-video-intel package22:40
tgm48837650M it would seem22:41
joshu_hi guys what's meant by a "pressed image"?22:41
tgm4883joshu_, in regards to what?22:42
tgm4883we'll need a bit more context22:42
lauri_tgm4883, what do you mean by installing it from amd?22:42
joshu_I was speaking to someone yesterday and the conversation was about taking standard ubuntu stripping it down and then creating a pressed image of that stripped down version.22:43
tgm4883lauri_, I'm running the 13.6 beta driver from here  http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx22:43
c_smithtgm4883: gonna try your solution22:43
tgm4883c_smith, lauri_ let me find the guide in case you need it22:44
c_smithtgm4883: as your setup is close to what I have.22:44
tgm4883c_smith, lauri_ http://askubuntu.com/questions/205112/how-do-i-get-amd-intel-hybrid-graphics-drivers-to-work22:44
lauri_ty, Ill check that out22:44
tgm4883joshu_, are you talking about a compressed image? Or a preseed image?22:45
c_smithtgm4883: following that guide now.22:45
c_smithI'll let you know if it works.22:45
tgm4883c_smith, lauri_ do either of you plan on gaming on the AMD side?22:45
joshu_tgm4883 the word used was "pressed" but perhaps that was a typo and "preseed" as you say is what the discussion was about22:45
lauri_I got some indie games from steam, and I use stellarium22:46
lauri_open source drivers are bad even in stellarium :(22:46
c_smithtgm4883: I constantly do so on my desktop (AMD Radeon HD 6670 with an AMD-FX CPU)22:46
c_smiththe CPU is the Bulldozer line.22:46
tgm4883c_smith, lauri_ there is an input lag bug that is known and should be fixed in the next version. I've only noticed it in L4D2, and only when using the radeon card. The intel card works fine22:46
tgm4883joshu_, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preseed22:47
c_smithtgm4883: haven't run into that with the machine I use for gaming (my desktop) but then again, that machine is only ever using the dedicated gpu.22:48
c_smithtgm4883: iirc, you frequented on the ubuntu-us-or channel, correct?22:49
c_smithofftopic there, i know.22:49
danlamannai'm having serious fluctuation in free disk space, is there anyway I can monitor which processes are causing that?22:49
c_smithdanlamanna: wouldn't the system monitor provide that?22:49
c_smithdanlamanna: I may be wrong there (been using Kubuntu since I switched back to a 'Buntu base, and Arch or Gentoo before)22:50
danlamannac_smith: it shows available disk space22:51
cziksonhi can some one help me? i have a problem with a pen drive...22:52
danlamannai actually think i've narrowed it down to mysql now though..22:52
c_smithdanlamanna: cool.22:52
holsteinczikson: you can format them with gparted.. otherwise, details are needed22:52
Mathisenhmm ubuntuforums.org >> Unfortunately the attackers have gotten every user's local username, password, and email address from the Ubuntu Forums database.22:52
Mathisenthis dont sound good at all22:52
c_smithMathisen: wow.22:53
cziksonit is write protected... nothing works from what iv tested22:53
Proxywars_How would I go about fixing this Can't create '_build/runtime_params': Permission denied at /usr/share/perl5/Module/Build/Notes.pm line 110.?22:54
holsteinczikson: you can format it22:54
cziksonno i can't when i try it dosnt work22:54
c_smithczikson: if it's write protected, you could try dd then (but be EXTREMELY careful, one wrong letter in the device name, and you could wipe out the contents of the internal   hard disk)22:55
holsteinczikson: maybe the unit is damaged.. "doesnt work" isnt enough detail either22:55
cziksonim using virtual machine so no worry but iv was trying dd and no luck tho..22:55
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holsteinczikson: no luck, in what way? what error messages?22:55
c_smithdid that once, and wiped out 135GB worth of backed up storage, so I've learned to be careful with dd the hard way.22:56
cziksonill paste it in a sec22:56
holsteinczikson: could be that you are trying to access it via VM incorrectly22:56
lauri_nice, the catalyst package from amd's site worked like a charm :)22:56
lauri_thanks for the tip!22:57
lauri_bb22:57
HappyNewYear13hello friends, what's the command to know what graphic driver i'm using?22:59
HappyNewYear13oh no the ubuntu forums are down23:00
HappyNewYear13help me23:00
HappyNewYear13plz23:00
holsteinHappyNewYear13: lspci lists hardware.. be patient23:01
zykotick9HappyNewYear13: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log, or "lspci -vnvn" find the VGA section, and the "kernel driver in use" line for the VGA23:01
HappyNewYear13thank you very much holstein & zykotick923:01
cziksonholstein: may be... i'v fond some command on the ubuntu forum23:02
cziksonbut its i off now...23:02
holsteinczikson: "some command" is not enough detail either23:03
cziksonit was like dd if=/dev/zero (some thing like that) if=/dev/sdb/ bs=4096k23:04
cziksonlike that i can't remember now..23:04
holsteinczikson: was the error permission related?23:04
zykotick9holstein: also notice the 2 if entries...23:04
cziksonwrite protected thats all it was23:04
zhekahi here23:05
zhekahttp://paste.ubuntuusers.de/raw/398624/23:05
holsteinczikson: dd is nicknamed "disk destroyer".. if you execute it properly, you will get it.. the write protection will not persist23:05
* genii sips and ponders if sdb# was mounted at the time23:05
holsteinczikson: you can delete the wrong drive.. you could have a bad USB, or you are having issues with VM..23:05
cziksoncould u  paste the command? i will try it23:05
holsteinczikson: sure23:06
holsteinczikson: man dd23:06
holsteinczikson: you should read and share any errors that you encounter..23:06
cziksonok :)23:06
zhekahello anyone knows how to fix http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/raw/398624/23:07
holstein!patience | zykotick923:07
ubottuzykotick9: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/23:07
holsteinzheka: ^^23:07
holsteinzykotick9: sorry for the tab-error23:08
Kalimdorresolution reset on reboot with nvidia x server but xorg saves data and it doesnt take any change after reboot23:08
RobertBColtonhey guys23:08
RobertBColtonlisten23:08
Kalimdorsolution?23:08
RobertBColtoni have a craig electronics tablet device here that has android installed23:08
RobertBColtonim wanting to install the ubuntu tablet beta os23:08
nibbler_!enter | RobertBColton23:08
ubottuRobertBColton: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!23:08
zykotick9holstein: it did catch me a bit off guard orgianally - no problems ;)23:08
holsteinKalimdor: you write the xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf23:08
RobertBColtoncan anybody help? :(23:09
cziksonthis was the command on the forum : dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=4096k23:09
holstein!tablet | RobertBColton23:09
ubottuRobertBColton: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch23:09
brontosaurusrexmods; http://ubuntuforums.org/announce.html < this is pretty serious, perhaps some bot could advertise this from time to time? (especially the part about changing the passwords)23:09
Kalimdorholstein: i have a complete xorg.conf23:09
RobertBColtonok23:09
piccai always misread ubottu as saying … don't feel ignored … and make sure you repeat your question frequently lol23:09
RobertBColtonholstein, im trying to get root right now without my sd card23:09
zhekaguyz anyone knows?23:09
Kalimdorholstein: after the reboot xorg.conf still has the correct data23:10
geniiRobertBColton: I'd check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices to see if it's being worked on. Also there is a channel #ubuntu-touch23:10
RobertBColtonhmm23:10
RobertBColtonidk23:10
Kalimdorholstein: but resolution resets23:10
holsteinzheka: ERROR: Unable to open X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' for writing. ..is there a file there? are you sudo?23:10
zykotick9Kalimdor: i'd suggests starting the nvidia-settings utility with "gksudo nvidia-settings" and after making your changes, use the save to xorg button...23:10
RobertBColtongenii, im using the Craig Electronics one, im not sure how popular they are, but they come in under 100$ so i know people have modified them, but for ubuntu idk23:10
Kalimdorzykotick9: read first.23:11
KalimdorXorg.conf has no problem at all23:11
Mudackthen second23:11
holsteinRobertBColton: try the tabletOS channel.. or a hardware channel.23:11
czikson@holstein @ubuntu:/home/czikson# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb             dd: opening ‘/dev/sdb’: Read-only file system23:11
RobertBColtonholstein, what was the channel again?23:11
holstein!tablet | RobertBColton23:12
ubottuRobertBColton: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch23:12
zhekasure i am sudo23:12
zykotick9Kalimdor: i'd guess, your theory is flawed... are you suggesting that Xorg isn't reading/applying xorg.conf's settings correctly?  that would be a major bug ;)  best of luck.23:12
RobertBColtonholstein, thnak you23:12
Kalimdorzykotick9: i will paste23:12
zykotick9Kalimdor: don't bother.  i'm not following issue further.  best of luck.23:13
* genii notes the uppercase X on Kalimdor's Xorg.conf23:13
Kalimdorzykotick9: you could mute23:13
Kalimdorholstein: any solution?23:13
holsteinKalimdor: what driver? the one from the repos?23:14
Dr_Willisyou do run the nvidia-settings tool as root, to save to sysystem wide config, I belive if you run it as a user. it saves to a file in the users home. to allow per-user customizations23:14
zhekaholstein: http://pastebin.com/1cmVMNz723:15
holsteinzheka: do you have a file there?23:16
holsteinzheka: are you sudo? what tool are you using? what are you running to get that error?23:16
Kalimdorholstein: take a look here also please: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5895632/23:16
holsteinzheka: the error reads : ERROR: Unable to open X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' for writing.23:17
zykotick9holstein: re:zheka, /etc/X11/xorg.conf also needs root (aka sudo - OR in this case probably gksudo!) privs for writing23:17
holsteinzheka: so, it cant be opened for reading.. why? is it there? do you have permission? other than that, ask whoever is maintaining whatever tool you are using23:17
zhekaholstein: sudo nvidia-settings23:17
cziksonholstein: it seys its write protected thats the only error23:17
holsteinzheka: i just put it manually in place if the wizard fails23:17
zykotick9holstein: for writing, according to the error!23:18
holsteincould be just not there yet23:18
zhekaholstein: http://pastebin.com/ExqKmxRm23:19
holsteinzheka: is there a file there? friend? do you actually have a file at that location?23:19
kaddiso what's the word on the hacking.. any inside news floating around here?23:19
holsteinERROR: Unable to open X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' for writing.23:20
Kalimdorholstein: tried all ways23:20
zhekabc gtk23:20
zykotick9zheka: fyi, i don't see your pastes, 'cause your using pastebin.com - ubuntu has a free one, there are other options as well - that doing have ads/tracking attached to them...  food for thought only - do whatever you want ;)  best of luck.23:20
k1lkaddi: #ubuntuforums23:20
kaddity23:20
zykotick9s/doing/don't/23:21
zhekazykotick9: where i shall to paste?23:21
zykotick9!paste23:21
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.23:21
holsteinzheka: the location he mentioned.23:21
holsteinzheka: is there a file located there? friend?23:22
zhekasure23:22
Kalimdorzykotick9: dont you look at mine?23:22
Kalimdorhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5895632/23:22
zhekaholstein: sure23:22
holsteinzheka: then, i would put it in manually.. dont use the tool.. or upate it and try23:22
cziksonholstein: Unable to open /dev/sdb read-write (Read-only file system).  /dev/sdb has been opened read-only.23:23
zhekahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5895647/23:23
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Kalimdorneed help: resolution reset on reboot with nvidia x server but xorg saves data and it doesnt take any change after reboot23:24
zhekaholstein: aww idk any commands for edit this file23:24
zykotick9zheka: can you rename your current xorg.conf to xorg.conf.my.backup or something, then use "gksudo nvidia-settings" to save a NEW file.  The Screen section doesn't seem correct somehow!23:25
zykotick9zheka: can you paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log as well?23:25
marcusLangleylist23:26
zhekazykotick9: sure, tryin23:26
Kalimdorlol no one knows that23:26
Kalimdorroflmao23:26
Kalimdornaps23:26
zykotick9zheka: EE lines in that log are badness ;)23:26
hyprvxHello, I downloaded the 64-bit version of Ubuntu. Will the installer work on Intel 64 machines, even though the file is marked amd64?23:26
checoimgYEs it willl work23:26
checoimgAMD was the first to have 64 bit , that's why is called AMD23:27
hyprvxThank you. One final question; space is limited on my destination computer, how much space will the installer take up?23:27
zykotick9!requirements23:27
ubottuHardware requirements to install, boot and comfortably use Ubuntu are listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements - For a !flavor with lower requirements, see !Xubuntu or !Lubuntu23:27
czikson5g23:27
hyprvxAgain, thanks. I'm switching to Ubuntu because Windows eats up nearly the entire drive D:23:28
checoimgYou need a Swap partition as big as your ram23:28
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zykotick9hyprvx: honestly, i'd suggest 8-10GB for a normal ubuntu system (updating takes a lot of space, and if / runs out "houston, we have a problem" ;)  good luck.23:29
hyprvxzykotick9, the laptop has a 16GB SSD23:29
checoimgI think Ubuntu will take the more it can but I always control that instead of letting it automatically install23:30
zykotick9hyprvx: 16 SSD would be very cool for /23:30
Proxywars_How would I go about fixing this Can't create '_build/runtime_params': Permission denied at /usr/share/perl5/Module/Build/Notes.pm line 110.?23:30
zhekahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5895656/23:30
checoimgWindows takes full 16 GB23:30
nibbler_Proxywars_: did you prepend sudo?23:30
hyprvxchecoimg, exactly why I'm switching23:30
checoimgHow much ram do you have ? 4 GB >23:30
hyprvx2GB.23:31
holsteinczikson: i would use a live CD to mount that locally, not read only..23:31
zykotick9Proxywars_: i'd suggest using alis to search for a perl channel23:31
holsteinczikson: locally.. not passing through VM23:31
cziksonallredy tried that23:31
cziksonno luck23:31
checoimgOk then the system will make a 2 GB swap partition23:31
Proxywars_zykotick9: How would I go about that, also this is for slic3r for repetier host23:31
holsteinczikson: that?23:31
zykotick9!alis | Proxywars_23:32
ubottuProxywars_: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*23:32
usr13zheka: That's the same thing you posted last time.23:32
holsteinczikson: could also be bad hardware23:32
checoimgso you have 14 GB to use for ubuntu and files23:32
cziksonmounted the live cd and dd the usb isn't working write only error23:32
cziksoni can enter the usb copy from it but noting else23:32
holsteinczikson: you can, if you mount it properly, and use the proper permissions23:33
zhekaive removed and try again23:33
zykotick9czikson: "mount the live cd and dd the usb" what are you doing exactly? cause it doesn't sound right...23:34
zhekabut i found backups trying to restart x`s23:34
RakythHey, I need to pull a plaintext copy of a website--is there a Linux app/utility that can help me?23:34
usr13zheka: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-settings/+bug/101285123:35
ubottuUbuntu bug 1012851 in nvidia-settings (Ubuntu) "Nvidia settings doesn't save monitor config" [Undecided,Confirmed]23:35
cziksonsudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdb123:35
cziksonmkfs.vfat 3.0.14 (23 Jan 2023)23:35
cziksonmkfs.vfat: unable to open /dev/sdb1: Read-only file system23:35
cziksondd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=4M23:35
cziksondd: opening ‘/dev/sdb’: Read-only file system23:35
zykotick9Rakyth: look into elinks, links2 and their text export commands (you're gonna get different results per-browser, and per-page...) good luck.23:35
zhekain log i see error about gyk module23:36
checoimg!requirements | checoimg23:36
ubottuchecoimg, please see my private message23:36
zhekagtk23:36
usr13zheka: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade23:36
cziksonhdparm -r0 /dev/sdb23:36
czikson/dev/sdb:23:36
czikson setting readonly to 0 (off)23:36
czikson readonly      =  0 (off)23:36
czikson*@ubuntu:/home/*# sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdb123:36
FloodBot1czikson: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:36
cziksonmkfs.vfat 3.0.14 (23 Jan 2023)23:36
zhekausr13: i want to stay on 10.0423:37
alt93973lool23:37
Dr_Willisczikson,  so is this a usb flash drive or a usb hard drive? or what exactly?23:37
zykotick9zheka: you can't stay on 10.04... it's over for desktops!  face facts.23:37
Proxywars_zykotick9: I believe this is a ubuntu problem due to permission problems not a perl issue23:37
holsteinczikson: does it have a switch? on the actual device?23:37
usr13zheka: Ok.23:37
SonikkuAmericaczikson: While you're being +q'd, remember that you need to mount your filesystem somewhere else23:37
usr13zheka: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade23:37
cziksonits sun disk cruzer slice 8g23:37
Kalimdorneed help: resolution reset on reboot with nvidia x server but xorg.conf saves the data23:37
holsteinwell, you can stay on 10.04 as long as you like, but you dont get support for it here23:37
SonikkuAmericaczikson: (such as /mnt)23:38
zykotick9Proxywars_: possible, in which case you should be searching launchpad for bugs related to perl on ubuntu23:38
Dr_Willisczikson,  you sure sdb is the right device?23:38
cziksonyes i know23:38
cziksonyes it is i have only sda and sdb23:38
Dr_Willissudo blkid should show the devices23:38
cziksonsda hdd adb usb23:38
cziksonsdb*23:38
Dr_Willissounds like the usb is dead/failed - ive seen them die and get stuck in read only mode'23:38
zykotick9Proxywars_: i still suspect user error, over a bug...23:39
Kalimdorholstein: can you help me please?23:39
Dr_Willisczikson,  you were doing the dd command with sudo rights?23:39
Proxywars_zykotick9: Same, how would I go about getting permission to the file then?23:39
cziksonyes23:39
zheka2nd display is works for now but some icons on applet section at botoom right corner shows wrong23:39
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holsteinKalimdor: are you running the driver from the repos?23:40
georgijHi, does anyone how to get postfix working been trying for days. Lol. Everything seems to be working, SMTP(port 33), Courier-POP3, Courier-IMAP... But can't seem to retrieve remote emails like GMail, hotmail etc..23:40
Kalimdorholstein: idk how to find out that23:40
holsteinKalimdor: where did you get it?23:40
Kalimdorthe driver?23:41
holstein!nvidia | Kalimdor this is what i always refer to.. you can see where to file a bug if you are finding a bug23:41
ubottuKalimdor this is what i always refer to.. you can see where to file a bug if you are finding a bug: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto23:41
l1ckrdoes anyone know if xchat can be run on tor?23:41
saiarcot895l1ckr: yes23:41
zykotick9Proxywars_: and THAT's why i suggested you ask in a perl channel - this isn't straight unix/linux/posix permission issues, cause your getting a perl error - with permissions23:41
saiarcot895l1ckr: as to whether you can actually use IRC on tor depends on the network/server23:42
l1ckrok...thanks23:42
cziksonblkid out : /dev/sdb1: UUID="D012-CCF2" TYPE="vfat"23:42
holsteinl1ckr: xchat is a chat client.. it will run, but the connection will be the issue23:42
l1ckrgot ya23:42
RakythZykotick9: thanks23:42
zykotick9Proxywars_: have you checked line XXX, to see what's there?23:42
Kane274Hi, does anyone here have experience with apt-cacher and vmbuilder ?23:43
Dr_Willisi think freenode has some sort of hidden tor server also. (or used to)23:43
Dr_Willisor hidden service. or however the tor term is called.23:43
saiarcot895Dr_Willis: still does; it's hidden service23:43
Dr_Willisi never really got into tor that much.23:43
saiarcot895Kane274: go ahead and ask your question23:44
Proxywars_zykotick9: That wouldn't really change anything as it's a permissions issue, I suspect chmod 777 would have helped but to no avail, I am a noob so I probably typd it wrong23:44
Kalimdorholstein: well the driver worked fine but since i hit the <Super>+P the resolution changed and stuck, i used that shortcut again and again to set to default but it doesnt change anything after reboot the xorg.conf contains the correct data, and nvida x server can change the resolution and save also but when i reboot, resolution resets to mirror dual monitors, here is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/5895632/23:44
zykotick9Kane274: i failed to get vmbuilder to work.  and i'm a MUCH bigger fan of apt-cacher-ng then apt-cacher.  so best of luck is all i can say ;)23:44
zhekazykotick9: fixed by recover from backup xorg.conf, now other trouble23:44
zykotick9Proxywars_: but what's the error again - isn't there a line number mentioned?23:44
Kane274well I got vmbuilder to work. I don't need apt-cacher I would also consider using apt-cacher-ng :)23:45
zhekazykotick9: icons of wifi, keyboard layout, and xchat shows so wrong23:46
zykotick9Kane274: fyi, apt-cacher-ng supports multiple versions at the same time!  even multiple distributions.  apt-cacher is limited to one at a time.  downside is... i think apt-cacher might be somewhat more stable, i have run into problems at various times with apt-cacher-ng (where the solution was to delete the cache, which kinda defeats the whole purpose)23:46
Kane274I just want to know if it is possible to download like whole distributions into the proxy. I thought I mounted a CD and put all of its content into the proxy. But I don't know the link to access the distribution :/23:47
AlexTheRealOneAnyone plz help, How i open the Options from the Terminal?23:47
Proxywars_zykotick9: Can't create '_build/runtime_params': Permission denied at /usr/share/perl5/Module/Build/Notes.pm line 110.23:47
zykotick9Kane274: with apt-cacher-ng absolutely!  i install everything from mini (or debian netinst) and everything is proxied locally ;)23:47
zipycan i mount an dd image that has 2 partitions in it?23:48
zykotick9Kane274: and any other DEB based distros as well ;)  one of the first question in mini/netinst is proxy, and you just type in your local proxy and it's golden from there.23:48
Kane274wow ok, well that sounds very promising :) so I'll try the apt-cacher-ng! thx for the info! btw I read somewhere that the main difference is that the apt-cacher needs an apache and apt-cacher-ng doesnt. But it seems like it's much more ^^23:49
zykotick9Kane274: i don't think apt-cacher need apache (but i could be wrong)23:49
AlexTheRealOneHow to open the Option from the Terminal? Is there a way? Unity Crashed after new Graphic Drivers, Compiz too23:49
Kalimdoris there any other resolution controller on OS that may disorders to nvidia x server if yes which and how to remove those23:50
Kane274Hmm maybe it was outdated info :) anyways, thx a lot for the help. I'm off to try apt-cacher-ng! yippie :D23:50
zykotick9Kane274: ya, neither apt-cacher or apt-cacher-ng should require apache (or another webserver?) [well, at least not a debian system]23:51
zykotick9Kane274: on your clients, don't edit source.list/etc. just one line change to /etc/apt/apt.conf on all your clients!  makes it MUCH easier to manage!23:52
Kalimdorzykotick9 still ignoring me?23:52
zykotick9Kalimdor: well not "really" ;)  what's up - all on one line please.23:53
Kane274ok I will do that :) First goal is to get it to work with vmbuilder and then change the clients23:53
Kalimdorzykotick9: ;) is there any other resolution controller on OS that may be a disorder to nvidia x server if yes which and how to remove those23:54
hectoris there any alternative to startup disk creator? it's broken.23:55
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zykotick9Kalimdor: removing stuff is almost NEVER required on gnu/linux.  it's how you have it configured that's the issue.  SO resetting to defaults (which is almost never actually re-installing) is helpful, but just at the settings level.  what is the actual setting that's giving you problems?23:56
zykotick9Kalimdor: actually, before we continue - have you ever installed the driver downloaded from nvidia.com?23:57
Kalimdorzykotick9: the driver worked fine but since i hit the <Super>+P the resolution changed and stuck, i used that shortcut again and again to set to default but it doesnt change anything after reboot the xorg.conf contains the correct data, and nvida x server can change the resolution and save also but when i reboot, resolution resets to mirror dual monitors, here is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/5895632/23:57
zipyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5895707/ <-- how can i mount the 2nd partition in this img23:58
Kalimdorzykotick9: both monitors will be on 1024x76823:58
zykotick9Kalimdor: i'm curious (i don't know what it means, but the "Option   "DynamicTwinView" "false" " means?23:59
sabanis there any topic on web about hacked forum? that went down yesterday23:59

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