[00:00] <wilee-nilee> localh0st, one way. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Exploring_the_Repositories
[00:00] <kickit2> well i figured out how to trim the size of the mirror clone down to 40gb.. and from what I read after that it will just get changes.. so I guess I'll just let this do its thing and see how this goes
[00:02] <localh0st> kostkon: thanks  wilee-nilee yeah, but it's messy
[00:03] <localh0st> i can't see almost all of ppa keys but my system is still downloading it..
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> localh0st, Huh?
[00:04] <localh0st> for example i've got xorg server installed for quantal but.. i've made upgrade to raring
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> localh0st, Your, uh, I will call it an explanation is convoluted.
[00:05] <FiremanEd> What's the correct channel name for ubuntu-offtopic, #???
[00:05] <localh0st> i don't know how to handle it wilee-nilee http://i.imgur.com/1WojNuF.jpg
[00:05] <m-a-d-r-a-k-e> alguien haba espanol
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> !es
[00:05] <localh0st> wilee-nilee: please, take a look at the version of package
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> localh0st, I doubt I can.
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> help
[00:07] <localh0st> wilee-nilee: "wersja" ends with quantal so it means it's not up to date, not for my ubuntu version
[00:08] <localh0st> and this is it's policy: http://pastebin.com/1fmH9MSv
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> !details | localh0st
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> I can't sift through your information as it is.
[00:09] <localh0st> wilee-nilee: Im the guy who had the problems while installing synaptics drivers and problems with dependencies. we tolked here some hours ago :P
[00:10] <cuddylier> Anyone know why a TCP IP redirect I have setup says 'End of stream' in the minecraft client and then connects fine and then does it again?
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> localh0st, If I could even remember my own name we might have a chance. ;)
[00:10] <localh0st> wilee-nilee: I understand you :)
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> localh0st, I'm not your best help here, I can go through our sources if that helps, that seems to be the crux, if you have PPA's make sure they are raring and are offering updates for raring.
[00:17] <localh0st> wilee-nilee: but I don't know where to start, it became more difficult nowadays, I used Linux 8 years ago and it was easier, really, now I'm afraid of these drivers with no configuration files :D
[00:17] <localh0st> wilee-nilee: it's all I know: http://pastebin.com/D0UW4K3j
[00:21] <tux1000> thanks wilee-nilee, but not can install in my ubuntu 13.4, I have that tarry to it is released (ultrastar deluxe)
[00:23] <aguitel_> how to watch netflix in ubuntu ?
[00:24] <OerHeks> !netflix
[00:24] <martin_> hello I need help in ubuntu 12.04
[00:25] <reisio> martin_: hi
[00:25] <martin_> I installed Ubuntu 12.04 and the speakers don't work. Before I had 13.04 without problems about sounds.
[00:25] <martin_> I re install ubuntu 12.04 and update, and also no sound, only by headphones. Also I tried by Ubuntu Live and doesn't work.
[00:25] <martin_> I tried alsamixer, and the sound it's high. and looks like no problem all the configuration, but not are sound by speakers.
[00:25] <reisio> martin_: you downgraded from 13.04 to 12.04?
[00:26] <martin_>  I tried editing /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf with options snd-hda-intel model=auto and not. It's strange that also in live cd and re installing ubuntu still not working.
[00:26] <martin_> Yes, I downgraded, but erasing all, and installing 12.04 from 0
[00:27] <reisio> martin_: why'd you do that
[00:27] <martin_> from USB
[00:27] <martin_> because with 13.04 my computer reboot all time
[00:28] <peyam> Hi
[00:28] <reisio> hi peyam
[00:28] <martin_> hi
[00:28] <reisio> hi
[00:28] <peyam> Im running a thinkpad mechin and the temperature is not optimized..
[00:28] <semitones_tea> hallo peeps. I'm trying to mount a tmpfs but I don't understand the different modes. For example, mount -t tmpfs -o size=500M,mode=0744 tmpfs makes it so only root can change it, but it is accessible by everyone. What are the other modes?
[00:28] <peyam> feels like it gets warm pretty fast
[00:29] <martin_> I will try now if work the sound form 13.04 live USB :S
[00:29] <tsimpson> !chmod | semitones_tea
[00:29] <martin_> i cant understan how cant work re installing all the SO
[00:29] <reisio> peyam: compared to what?
[00:30] <peyam> reisio, what do you mean?
[00:30] <peyam> reisio, it is a intel processor and sometimes it goes up to 70
[00:30] <reisio> peyam: warm laptops is not particularly abnormal
[00:30] <peyam> reisio, 70 for a intel is always high
[00:31] <semitones_tea> thankyou tsimpson
[00:31] <martin_> sorry, do you know a channel to ask about problems in ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[00:32] <peyam> Do you know a better power manager for XFCE excapt gnome power manager
[00:32] <peyam> martin_, well ubuntu is ubuntu.. what is the issue?
[00:32] <reisio> martin_: here
[00:32] <reisio> peyam: Xfce has its own power manager
[00:33] <peyam> reisio, im not so happy with it :)
[00:33] <reisio> peyam: how so?
[00:33] <peyam> reisio, it doesnt give the optimal energy modes for my hardware comparing to the factory's power manager
[00:33] <martin_> peyam:
[00:33] <martin_> I installed Ubuntu 12.04 and the speakers don't work. Before I had 13.04 without problems about sounds.
[00:33] <martin_> I re install ubuntu 12.04 and update, and also no sound, only by headphones. Also I tried by Ubuntu Live and doesn't work.
[00:33] <martin_> I tried alsamixer, and the sound it's high. and looks like no problem all the configuration, but not are sound by speakers.
[00:33] <FloodBot1> martin_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:34] <peyam> martin_, is it a 64 or the 32?
[00:34] <martin_> 32
[00:34] <peyam> hmm. have you tried pulseaudio?
[00:35] <peyam> martin_, have you updated the distro?
[00:35] <martin_> yes, killing and re installing
[00:35] <Ilya> hello
[00:35] <martin_> but also before install 12.04 from live USB sounds not work by speakers :S
[00:36] <peyam> okej. what is the specifications?
[00:37] <Ilya> does anyone know, will ubuntu touch works on Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9 ?
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> Ilya, #ubuntu-touch is your place
[00:39] <Ilya> wilee-nilee,thanks
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[00:40] <martin_> Yes, I format all the SO and re installing again
[00:40] <peyam> martin_, have you looked if you chosen the speaker as default output devices?
[00:40] <martin_> peyam How can I look that?
[00:41] <peyam> martin_, I use pulseaudio. but you go to pulseaudio and see the ourputs and choose it as default
[00:41] <jonah_> does anyone have experience with the HP pavillion sleekbook 15 using ubuntu on it?
[00:42] <peyam> martin_, your choose the "Outputs devices" and choose the speaker as default , there is a green icon on the right side
[00:42] <jonah_> mine has an AMD proccessor and everytime i enable its driver the system fails.
[00:43] <peyam> jonah_, enable what?
[00:43] <jonah_> the AMD graphics driver
[00:43] <peyam> jonah_, graphic? use the opensource one
[00:44] <jonah_> i have tried.. it never worked
[00:44] <jonah_> it was insanely slow to the point of it being unusable
[00:44] <peyam> jonah_, did you download the driver?
[00:44] <martin_> peyam, yes in sounds configuration I see speakers device and headphones device, looks like no problem but no sound from speakers
[00:44] <jonah_> no i used the one in the additional drivers
[00:45] <peyam> martin_, send a picture.. and ofcourse look at configurations as well
[00:46] <peyam> jonah_, and you restard the computer?
[00:46] <Kitt3n> jonah_, if your card is supported try the AMD Linux drivers from amd.com
[00:46] <semitones> tsimpson: if I created a tmpfs directory with mode 744, which should be readable by everyone, why doesn't ls have permission to read it?
[00:47] <tsimpson> semitones: it can also depend on the permission of the directory that contains it
[00:47] <jonah_> yes i restarted
[00:47] <trism> semitones: you need x, 4 is only r
[00:48] <martin_> How can I take a picture?
[00:48] <peyam> jonah_, strange..
[00:48] <semitones> trism: ls needs x?
[00:48] <Taek> martin_: prtsrn
[00:48] <tsimpson> semitones: directories needs the x bit set in order to be able to "search" in it
[00:48] <peyam> martin_, o.O
[00:49] <semitones> tsimpson: oh ok. Is there a way of changing the permissions without umount/mount again
[00:49] <tsimpson> semitones: the chmod command
[00:49] <semitones> tsimpson: ok i'll try
[00:50] <semitones> so sounds like I want the directory to be 777
[00:50] <Taek> semitones: depends on who the folder belongs too
[00:50] <jonah_> its an AMD a6 4455m with Radeon (tm) graphics HD
[00:50] <bekks> semitones: accessing a directory requires "x", so directories should always have r+x=5 at least
[00:50] <semitones> Taek: hmm, it is the /var/lib/quassel folder
[00:51] <Taek> and you just want to browse in it semitones ?
[00:51] <bekks> semitones: Most likely, you do not want a directory to have 777, but you want to change user/group instead.
[00:51] <Taek> bekks: because of what dir it is, I wouldn't change owner
[00:52] <semitones> Taek: yeah, and before, I had to use sudo to read or write the files in it. I should have looked at what the permissions were beforehand.
[00:52] <liquidstone> a
[00:52] <semitones> so sounds like I want 745
[00:52] <Taek> semitones: are you just wanting to browse? if so are you using desktop?
[00:52] <bekks> semitones: Nope.
[00:53] <bekks> semitones: You want 755 (rwx=rwx for owner, 5=rx for group and maybe 5=rx for all the others)
[00:53] <semitones> I'm using bash, this is on a headless 'server'. I want to be able to read the files so I can have a cron job copy them to disk
[00:53] <Taek> semitones: in that case, use sudo -l root
[00:54] <quuxman> does anybody know XKB config?
[00:54] <Taek> and type in your sudo password, you'll be root until you you exdit
[00:54] <Taek> If it's a cronjob you are trying to do, you can setup cronjobs as root.. not recommended but you can
[00:55] <semitones> well, I don't see a problem changing the read permissions to allow a userlevel cron job
[00:55] <semitones> it isn't sensitive material or anything -- just my irc stuff
[00:55] <Taek> Are you the only person with access to the headless machine semitones  ?
[00:56] <semitones> well i live with a roommate but I don't think he knows linux
[00:56] <Taek> there's a reason why that dir isn't user level accessible
[00:56] <semitones> I think it's because quassel is run as a root level service
[00:56] <Taek> then you don'yt want to change permissions
[00:57] <semitones> so I guess I'll just make a root cron job
[00:57] <semitones> to copy it to disk every minute or so
[00:57] <Taek> if you know the script you are going to use for cronjobs, and it's good and safe enough for you, just set it up as root
[00:57] <rypervenche> semitones: sudo chmod 755 /path/to/directory/
[00:58] <semitones> I was just going to do "cp /here /there
[00:58] <semitones> :
[00:58] <semitones> "
[00:58] <semitones> rypervenche: thanks
[00:58] <rypervenche> semitones: 755 is the default permissions for a directory.
[00:58] <Taek> I never mess with files outside of /home, /opt, /var/www unless I need to change a config file in etc
[00:59] <Taek> I wonder what the proper pronounciation for /etc.. is it Etsee?
[00:59] <rypervenche> That's what I say now. :/
[00:59] <rypervenche> I don't like it, but it's fast and my work used to use it.
[01:00] <bekks> Taek: "et cetera"
[01:00] <semitones> Taek: i didn't want to mess with these, it's just my disk is very slow, and there were many little database writes, so I mounted a tmpfs on the directory the database lives in
[01:00] <Taek> I thought so bekks
[01:00] <rypervenche> semitones: So your database is only in RAM nonw?
[01:00] <rypervenche> now*
[01:00] <semitones> rypervenche: yes, it could go at any second
[01:00] <rypervenche> smart..
[01:01] <semitones> rypervenche: that's why I'm going to make a cron job to copy it every minute or so, which is better than every second or so
[01:01] <semitones> "sudo crontab"
[01:01] <rypervenche> Sounds like more read/write, lol.
[01:01] <Taek> semitones: if you mounted it, as read only, you shouldn't have a problem, but if you need to delete the files, you can re-mount it as read/write temporarily
[01:02] <semitones> the database needs to be read/write always, or else I could do that
[01:02] <semitones> rypervenche: it is more r/w, but less often.
[01:02] <Taek> is there a specific folder for just the database files?
[01:02] <lorddelta> hello? My X server has hung; any clues how to restart it?
[01:02] <semitones> Taek: there is only one database file, and it lives in that /var/lib/quassel folder
[01:02] <Taek> you can chmod 755 for that single file.
[01:03] <Taek> instead of the whole foldwer
[01:03] <semitones> i think the folder is supposed to be 755 anyhow. most folders are that way
[01:03] <Taek> if that doesn't work, chmod 777
[01:03] <Taek> semitones: if it was installed that way, then it should be that way :D
[01:04] <rypervenche> People need to stop 777ing...
[01:04] <Taek> semitones: I assume youi used apt-get to install it?
[01:04] <semitones> yup!
[01:04] <Taek> semitones: then it's the way it should be
[01:04] <semitones> rypervenche: lol :)
[01:04] <cliff777> Hello, I'm having trouble booting ubuntu on my PC...I sometimes get the low graphics mode error, sometimes just a black screen. If it helps, I am using an AMD 7770 video card and the latest driver downloaded from amd.com
[01:05] <Taek> cliff777: Can you gain access to the desktop at all, if so try uninstalling the driver and using a different onwe
[01:05] <semitones> well sudo crontab didn't do anything. I guess I need to find out how to actually make root cronjobs rather than guess about it
[01:05] <cliff777> Taek: no, I have no access to the desktop at all...however I can access command line
[01:05] <FoxyRK9> Hello
[01:06] <semitones> ah it's sudo crontab -e
[01:06] <Taek> Hmm not sure how one would remove a graphics card driver from the command line
[01:06] <Taek> Never had that issue before.
[01:06] <semitones> Taek: you have to depmod or something
[01:06] <Kitt3n> cliff777, try the open source driver
[01:06] <semitones> i forget. it's unloading a kernel module one way or another
[01:06] <Taek> Kitt3n: he/she is asking how to uninstall the driver via command
[01:06] <FoxyRK9> I run 12.04 LTS x64 on my HP Pavillion Laptop and had to reinstall, now everytime I reinstall the OS it's slow, doesn't want to load or gives me a kernel panic.
[01:07] <cliff777> kitt3n, anyway I can uninstall the other driver and install the new one via command line?
[01:07] <cliff777> he ;)
[01:07] <reisio> FoxyRK9: reinstalling an OS is not usually a perfectly sensible course of action
[01:07] <Kitt3n> cliff777, the open source driver should overwrite the amd driver automatically
[01:07] <Taek> reisio: I do it all the time :D
[01:07] <FoxyRK9> well the OS gave me a kernel panic before and will not load
[01:07] <Kitt3n> reisio, except when the kernel stops working completely
[01:08] <reisio> Taek: makes you not perfectly sensible :p
[01:08] <FoxyRK9> I tried to use knoppix to recieve my data
[01:08] <reisio> Kitt3n: even then it's rather a waste of time to reinstall
[01:08] <cliff777> kitt3n, how can I get the open-source driver? apt-get ?
[01:08] <Kitt3n> reisio, heh, once the kernel would just NOT boot, so I had to reinstall, like..3 times -.-
[01:08] <Taek> reisio: if the system doesn't boot, how else are you to use it?.
[01:08] <Kitt3n> cliff777, yes, use apt-get
[01:08] <reisio> Taek: by fixing it
[01:08] <FoxyRK9> Now its acting as before
[01:08] <reisio> you can always fix it
[01:09] <cliff777> apt-get amd-driver?
[01:09] <reisio> and your older working kernel should remain regardless
[01:09] <Kitt3n> cliff777, actually, just try "sudo apt-get install fglrx"
[01:09] <Taek> reisio: not on a fresh install :D
[01:09] <Taek> No older kernel available then.
[01:09] <reisio> Taek: on a fresh install, reinstalling is even less sensible, as it'd be doing the same thing over again
[01:10] <cliff777> kitt3n alright I will try that, and get back to you ;) thank you!
[01:10] <Taek> cliff777: Are you able to boot into recovery mode?
[01:10] <semitones> OK so this is important. If I write a cron entry that's just all like */5 * * * * cp /var/lib/quassel/blah.sqlite ~/backup/, could that hose my system if something goes wrong?
[01:10] <cliff777> Taek, yes
[01:10] <Taek> Once logged in, check the logs to see why the kernel is panicing
[01:10] <Taek> and then go from there
[01:10] <Kitt3n> AMD is a pain until you get it working ..
[01:10] <rypervenche> semitones: Use full paths and not ~
[01:10] <cliff777> Yeah I've noticed....
[01:10] <semitones> good call
[01:11] <cliff777> kinda wishing I went with Nvidia now
[01:11] <reisio> semitones: the most it could do is copy over a file named 'blah.sqlite' in ~/backup/
[01:11] <Kitt3n> cliff777, GOD no
[01:11] <FoxyRK9> The installer is past the tutorial now and is acting as it did the first time I installed ubuntu
[01:11] <Taek> I have AMD, no issues with drivers from AMD website
[01:11] <Kitt3n> Me too
[01:11] <semitones> rypervenche: ok, well i'm ok with that
[01:11] <alami> hello, why i can't play wmv, i have mplayer smplayer vlc totem, and no one can open wmv for me
[01:11] <rypervenche> semitones: Also use -f
[01:11] <cliff777> specifically what log should I check?
[01:11] <reisio> semitones: add -n and the most it could do is copy a file there if one doesn't already exist
[01:11] <rypervenche> semitones: And put > /dev/null 2>&1 at the end
[01:11] <semitones> what is the 2>&1 part?
[01:11] <Taek> cliff777: dmesg perhaps?
[01:12] <rypervenche> semitones: Makes stderr go into the output as well.
[01:12] <FoxyRK9> different question, On a different computer I have all my files. Music ad pictures
[01:12] <cliff777> Taek, and I would find that where?
[01:12] <FoxyRK9> is there a program like WMP that syncs all my muic automatically?
[01:12] <Taek> cliff777: almost always log files are in /var/log
[01:12] <reisio> FoxyRK9: syncs?
[01:12] <FoxyRK9> Synchronize
[01:12] <reisio> FoxyRK9: between what?
[01:13] <cliff777> thank you all I will try these and report back
[01:13] <Taek> cliff777: check dmsg and syslog
[01:13] <FoxyRK9> the Music library on my computer and the Mp3 player
[01:13] <reisio> FoxyRK9: yes, lots of apps do that
[01:13] <reisio> including one that comes with Ubuntu, IIRC
[01:13] <FoxyRK9> I tried rhythmbox drag and drop ut it only makes files on the MP3 I want them into folders
[01:13] <thufir> from simple xwindows, I'm using firefox.  how can I get to the menu for firefox?  Can't seem to click on them.
[01:14] <alami> hello, why i can't play wmv, i have mplayer smplayer vlc totem, and no one can open wmv for me
[01:14] <reisio> !restricted
[01:14] <Taek> alami: Have you installed the media codecs?
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> alami, wmv is a container I believe and MS to boot I have seen few play, however you can convert them to a format that does. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wmv
[01:14] <alami> Taek:do you mean w64codecs?
[01:15] <FoxyRK9> is there an off topic Ubuntu channel?
[01:15] <Taek> as reisio has reported - above
[01:15] <reisio> FoxyRK9: /msg alis list *ubuntu*
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> FoxyRK9, #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:15] <semitones> rypervenche: ok, but if I want it to constantly overwrite the backup file with the newer version, I should have -f, not -n.
[01:15] <rypervenche> semitones: That's what I typed.
[01:15] <Taek> -y -f --force-yes
[01:15] <Taek> is what I normally do :D
[01:16] <thufir> also, just using xwindows, how can I move the windows around?
[01:16] <semitones> that is so many flags
[01:16] <Taek> but always works semitones ;D
[01:16] <semitones> why would I need -f though?
[01:16] <semitones> i'd rather it fail then mess something up
[01:16] <rypervenche> semitones: Because otherwise it will ask you if you want to overwrite it and since this is a cronjob it won't work.
[01:17] <semitones> oooh ok
[01:17] <Taek> -f install dependencies I beliefe
[01:17] <rypervenche> Taek: We're talking about cp.
[01:17] <Taek> Oh.. thought it was for apt-get
[01:17] <Taek> My fault
[01:19] <semitones> rypervenche: so this is what I have: */2 * * * * cp -f /var/lib/quassel/quassel-storage.sqlite /home/pi/varcopy/lib/quassel/  > /dev/null 2>&1 and it should copy every 2 minutes this way
[01:20] <rypervenche> semitones: Yep.
[01:20] <rypervenche> semitones: It's still a very crappy work around. You should look into bettering your database writes.
[01:21] <cuddylier_> What is the best way to forward TCP traffic connecting to a server box to another IP?
[01:21] <semitones> rypervenche: yeah... 2 minutes of lost database is pretty sketchy. I heard there is a better database than sqlite called 'postgresql,' but also that it might be too resource-intensive for my hardware
[01:22] <rypervenche> semitones: Yes, I would use that myself. I was just messing with postgres today :) I'll help you if you like.
[01:22] <Kitt3n> There's also MySQL
[01:22] <rypervenche> I'm not sure quassel has MySQL support or not. I don't have a USE flag for it in Gentoo.
[01:22] <semitones> Kitt3n: I think quassel works pretty well with postgres, I don't really know databases well
[01:23] <Kitt3n> Never used Postgres myself, only ever needed MySQL
[01:23] <Taek> ^
[01:23] <rypervenche> Postgres is for winners :) I'll end it there though. This is for help, not chat.
[01:23] <Taek> MySQL all the way.
[01:23] <reisio> heh
[01:23] <reisio> MySQL is discontinued
[01:23] <reisio> and postgresql was always better anyways :p
[01:23]  * rypervenche high fives reisio.
[01:23] <reisio> rypervenche: yes indeed
[01:24] <Kitt3n> I don't really care *rolls eyes*
[01:24] <cliff777> hello again
[01:24] <reisio> hello again right now
[01:25] <reisio> Kitt3n: yeah but I don't really care more :p
[01:25] <cliff777> is the line in /var/log/dmesg   init: failsafe main process (874) killed by TERM signal   anything to worry about?
[01:25] <Taek> Generally it just means something got killed
[01:26] <Taek> an app ended
[01:26] <Taek> closed, shutdown due to restart.
[01:26] <cliff777> ok so nothing with graphics?
[01:26] <farley> boa noite senhoresa
[01:26] <farley> senhores
[01:26] <Taek> well unless you know what the process was, no way to tell
[01:26] <cliff777> ok, and the last line of the log was about eth0 (ethernet) not ready
[01:27] <Taek> cliff777: that's normal on boot up.
[01:27] <Taek> mean it probably didn't get a DHCP lease from the router before it wanted it
[01:27] <cliff777> ok
[01:29] <cuddylier_> What is the best way to forward TCP traffic connecting to a server box on a specific IP to another IP?
[01:34] <FoxyRK9> no that was an old computer
[01:35] <rypervenche> cuddylier_: iptables
[01:35] <cuddylier> rypervenche Do you know of a good guide to do that?
[01:37] <bazhang> cuddylier, #netfilter
[01:38] <cuddylier> bazhang Do you know of a guide on how to use that to do what I want?
[01:39] <rypervenche> cuddylier: I don't know of one off hand, but we can help you out with the syntax. Do you know iptables at all?
[01:39] <bazhang> cuddylier, the channel I gave you knows a lot about iptables and the like. why not ask there
[01:39] <cuddylier> Ahh
[01:39] <cuddylier> Okay
[01:42] <sarthor> Using linux, laptop toshiba VGA "Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller", How to check if my VGA is working properly or not?
[01:43] <sarthor> during moving any windows via mouse here and there, moment shows some jumps
[01:43] <Jordan_U> sarthor: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[01:44] <lorddelta> So, any ideas?
[01:44] <sarthor> Jordan_U: I hope you will not ask me for "ask in LM channel", I am using Linux Mint 15.
[01:44] <Jordan_U> sarthor: That is exactly what I will ask you to do. This channel is for Ubuntu support only.
[01:44] <bazhang> !mintsupport | sarthor
[01:46] <sarthor> OK. what is the Command in the latest release of ubuntu to check, Is my VGA is working proper or not?
[01:46] <bazhang> sarthor, ask for support in the MINT channel, NOT here
[01:47] <sarthor> bazhang: OK. But this time I asked about Ubuntu latest version. OK. Will ask there. Thanks.
[01:50] <benbloom> okay, I'm having a lot of trouble and google is no help and other irc's are no help and you guys have always been great to me: is there a way to disable NFS vers2 from nfs-kernel-server? I've got a problem with busybox mounting vers2 when it should try 3 or 4 first on my media player
[01:54] <Jordan_U> benbloom: What is your end goal? Is your root FS on NFS? On your media player?
[01:56] <benbloom> root FS is on my server. My media player keeps mounting it as vers=2, but there's no way to force the media player to do vers=3 so I'm trying to disallow vers=2 from the server
[01:57] <benbloom> I just tried placing NFS_SERVER_VERSMIN=3 in nfs-kernel-server and restarting it
[01:58] <benbloom> no help there
[02:02] <virtyx> I have a USB wifi adapter (USB ID 0846:9011 according to lsusb) but it doesn't show up in ifconfig. I assume I need to load a module to get it to work, but I'm a bit of a noob and recent Windows convert so I don't actually know where to go from here. I can't seem to come up with a good Google query to get me in the right direction. I would appreciate any pointers!
[02:04] <virtyx> Is there like a big driver webpage or something? How can I figure out which thing to load for my... for my thing?
[02:06] <th0r> virtyx, you might start with lspci | grep network. That might put you onto what network adapter you have. Once you know the chipset in the network adapter you can google that to see what module you need loaded.
[02:07] <th0r> virtyx, you need an upper case there....lspci | grep Network
[02:07] <benbloom> putting NFS_SERVER_VERSMIN=3 in nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server doesn't actually force nfsd to use minimum vers of 3. Any ideas??
[02:08] <virtyx> Thanks th0r, I did run that but it only lists a PCI wifi card I have and not the USB key I'm trying to setup
[02:10] <th0r> virtyx, I did a quick google on the id you posted, and it appears to belong to a bcm4323 chipset, which I think uses the b43 driver (http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=280977)
[02:11] <th0r> !broadcom
[02:13] <virtyx> th0r: Thanks a ton!
[02:15] <kairos> Can someone help me figure out why I can get gnome terminal to be transparent, but not urxvt?
[02:16] <Jordan_U> kairos: urxvt probably doesn't support transparency. Do you expect it to?
[02:17] <Jordan_U> kairos: And now that I've said that, have you tried http://ctkarch.org/documentation/tutorials/tuto.php?page=urxvt-transpa.xml ? :)
[02:21] <kairos> Jordan_U: Yes, it does. And yes, I have. If no were the answer to either of those, I wouldn't be here
[02:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> hello. I need a bit of in-depth help or a well-detailed guide on how flashplugin-installer, oracle-java7-instaler or the like actually works, as I'm looking to create a similar one for a certain .net program using wine. I can manually do it myself and know all the steps to use, but I'd like to create this for the sake of less technically endowed users.
[02:22] <Jordan_U> kairos: What composite manager are you using? Could you pastebin your ~/.Xdefaults ?
[02:27] <kairos> Whatever Ubuntu 12.04 uses by default
[02:28] <matelot> how to find out which DM I'm using (gnome,unity , unity2d...) ?
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> matelot, What did you install, and what did you add?
[02:30] <matelot> wilee-nilee: long forgotten
[02:31] <matelot> just want to know what I'm on right now, it's had to tell from login....same icons
[02:31] <Jordan_U> matelot: I think you mean DE (Desktop Environment). You can tell by looking at the session drop down at the login screen (lightdm/GDM).
[02:32] <matelot> Jordan_U: yes, but in the dropdown gnome has same icons...so can't tell, I know it's i;m using one of the gnomes
[02:33] <matelot> this is 12.04
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> matelot, can you run this to confirm the release  lsb_release -a
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> Doh 12.04 cool
[02:33] <Jordan_U> matelot: I think you're misunderstanding, because the dropdown I'm talking about is a list of names of Sessions, not icons.
[02:34] <kairos> Jordan_U: I got it working with xcompmgr
[02:34] <matelot> Jordan_U: hmmm ok let me see
[02:34] <marawan2> ubuntu offtopic
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:35] <frankboard> hellow everyone, i am a new user of 13.94
[02:37] <kairos> Would I want to start xcompmgr in .xinitrc or .xprofiles? Does it matter?
[02:38] <drjeats> if the latest mactel support guide for installing on a macbookpro3,1 is for Maverick, in practice, will attempting to install Raring on one be a painful/impossible endeavor, or is it more that I'll have to troubleshoot or workaround a few extra driver issues?
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> !mac
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> drjeats, ^^^^^^
[02:40] <Kitt3n> The best idea is to never touch macs ever, they're designed to not work with anything not designed by Apple.
[02:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> scratch that, I've gotten the info I need in general, but I remember there was some way to create a "blank" debian source package for a base package.
[02:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> <word that #ubuntu does not allow> macs!
[02:41] <SonikkuAmerica> Kitt3n: Now who said it wasn't a good idea to try? We have amd64+mac images that work :)
[02:41] <drjeats> im aware of both the community page (how else would I know the latest guide for my model?) and that Apple isn't friendly. was curious if anyone had first-hand experience to share
[02:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> Kitt3n: oh hey, tis you! how you doing?
[02:42] <Kitt3n> It's a fight against the most greedy "computer" company that exists.
[02:42] <Kitt3n> ntzrmtthihu777, I know it's off-topic (no one's talking anyway) I am good, good~
[02:43] <SonikkuAmerica> Kitt3n: The fight has been successful with the introduction of the Ubuntu UEFI interfaces :)
[02:44] <Jordan_U> drjeats: My recommendation would be to try the *non* +mac DVD image, as an actual DVD preferably, and see what works and what doesn't in the live session. If everything seems to work, then ignore most if not all of the Mac guides (last I checked there was a lot of bad advice in them unfortunately).
[02:44] <Kitt3n> SonikkuAmerica, Okay?
[02:45] <kairos> Would I want to start xcompmgr in .xinitrc or .xprofiles? Does it matter?
[02:45] <SonikkuAmerica> Kitt3n: (Although my VBox EFI testing has produced an X server that has been brutally clobbered into mush.)
[02:45] <drjeats> Jordan_U: Exactly the sort of info I was hoping to hear. Thank you very much :)
[02:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> w00t! just passed 40k views!
[02:47] <Jordan_U> drjeats: You're welcome.
[02:52] <frankboard> join #linuxba
[03:04] <wilee-nilee> drjeats, Glad you got help, however I have never used an apple computer, nor do I know what is available, but knew the bot had info, and cannot read your mind, or where you have searched, if you want to convey info then do it.
[03:06] <drjeats> wilee-nilee: ah, sorry for being prickly about it. I appreciate you thinking to point me toward the bot's info. no hard feelings?
[03:09] <luckybunny> hey guys. I'm thinking of dusting off my old computer and using it again fairly soon. The thing is, I had my /home partition on a separate hard disk, that now resides (permanently) in my new computer. I don't want to take it out and use it in my old computer. I'm just wondering how my old computer will react to being woken up and not being able to find the familar sdb1 mounted at /home
[03:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> luckybunny: you could just remove it from the fstab, lol. and it will give an error message at plymouth for skipping mounting or manual recovery.
[03:11] <luckybunny> will that cause problems, or will it just create a fresh, empty /home for itself?
[03:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> luckybunny: /home already exists, you just had the hdd mounted ontop of it.
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> luckybunny, You will have to clone the original and use it to run the OS on the old one or install a new OS.
[03:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> luckybunny: you may want to copy your .files in ~ from sdb1 to your main hdd, as these contain most of your per-user configuration files.
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> luckybunny, I have a feeling whatever is there is end of life possibly.
[03:16] <luckybunny> speaking of plymouth... I might start from scratch with it, tbh. It's only for the sake of 2 weeks of having an extra machine, and the HDD issue, along with the fact that it's running Precise... probably quicker, easier and just as useful to just clean install Raring
[03:16] <luckybunny> uh.. that's nothing to do with plymouth lol
[03:17] <luckybunny> the 'speaking of plymouth' was about something else
[03:17] <Dux> Hello, I am trying to get ubuntu installed alongside windows. I have the version I would like to install, but I do not remember how to get the files into my USB drive, I know I used a program from their website but I cant find it, anyone know what it is called?
[03:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dux: unetbootin, I bet.
[03:18] <luckybunny> I have been having a mysterious lack of boot splash due to having messed with plymouth a long time ago. It worked, I tried to change the splash screen, and it has never worked since. Not even the default settings
[03:18] <MichaelP> whats the channel for 13.10... in typing something wrong i think
[03:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> luckybunny: heh, I completely got rid of the xubuntu splash, I like seeing whats going on behind the scenes :P
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> MichaelP, #ubuntu+1
[03:19] <kelly> hello guys , can i ask here about Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> Dux, Many use unetbootin, what is the windows release?
[03:19] <MichaelP> wilee-nilee: yep i was typing it in wrong... i was doing ubuntu-next
[03:20] <Dux> win 7 64bit
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> MichaelP, Logical try.
[03:20] <SonikkuAmerica> ntzrmtthihu777: You like seeing the dmesg input fly across (really down) your screen? ")
[03:20] <SonikkuAmerica> * :)
[03:20] <luckybunny> ntzrmtthihu777: yes, that's about all i got working lol. For the longest time, I was just looking at a purple screen with plain text Ubuntu XX.XX... after realising there was almost no chance I'd get a splash screen back, I switched it out for none
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> Dux, Cool, the new W8 setups are gpt uefi just making sure you basically okay for a regular install.
[03:20] <luckybunny> so now I get all the info
[03:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> SonikkuAmerica: I love it :P
[03:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> SonikkuAmerica: only thing I would change is the text color, you know how?
[03:22] <Jordan_U> kelly: If it's running Ubuntu you can ask Ubuntu support questions.
[03:23] <Dux> Thank you guys.
[03:23] <kelly> Jordan_U: i don't buy it until now , is there a new update from Dell XPS 13 Developer ?
[03:27] <Jordan_U> kelly: This is #ubuntu, the support channel for the Ubuntu GNU/Linux distribution. While the computer you're asking about comes with Ubuntu, that doesn't make this channel Dell support. For questions about Dell's hardware offerings ask dell.
[03:28] <moondog> question: do you (anyone) think that lubuntu is more closely compatible with ubuntu than say linux mint?
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> moondog, Lubuntu is the ubuntu core with the lubuntu de mint is the ubuntu core with the mint de
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> there both basically ubuntu
[03:29] <moondog> I see... I was thinking Linux Mint had other differences besides just the DE
[03:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> moondog: they are like 99% the same, just like different ethnic groups :P
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> moondog, there is a debian mint though
[03:30] <Jordan_U> moondog: It does. You misunderstood wilee-nilee's comment.
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> I was not real clear sorry about that.
[03:30] <moondog> s'ok
[03:31] <Jordan_U> moondog: All of the official Ubuntu flavors use the same repositories, with the only difference being the default set of installed packages. Mint uses different repositories, and is not supported here because of that.
[03:31] <moondog> I realize the DE is different... but I would have thought lubuntu to be pretty much the same core... whereas linux mint would have more under the covers things different
[03:31] <moondog> ah ok
[03:31] <moondog> cool
[03:32] <moondog> so it sounds like my assumptions were correct
[03:33] <moondog> I appreciate you answering in spite of the fact that it was a bit off-topic
[03:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> moondog: basic gist: if you want help in this channel, use {lu,xu,u}buntu :P
[03:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> *ku, thats what I forgot :P
[03:34] <moondog> ntzrmtthihu777: more of a philosophical question :)
[03:35] <rsvp> when I write /dev/shm/foo.txt -- surprisingly it appears as /run/shm/foo.txt -- any ideas why this is happening??
[03:36] <Dr_willis> because theres a link from /run to /dev for the file  woul;d be my guess
[03:36] <Dr_willis> theres a movement to move stuff to /run/   i cant recall why
[03:37] <Dr_willis> somthing about being able to have / on a read only filesystem. and keep ./run/ somewhere else. (its to late at night for me to rember the details of ehre i saw that at)
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> moondog, Funny thing though with ubuntu and mint is mint does use some ubuntu repos I believe and cinnamon is in the ubuntu repos in 13.04, and there are PPA's that provide for both, it is bit of a funky situation for some users.
[03:39] <Dr_willis> i thought mint used all the ubuntu repos. and added their own. or do they just sort of clone the ubuntu repos and make changes, keeping their own mirrors?
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, I thought they used them, but have not seen a sources.list for mint, I would like to.
[03:40] <moondog> hmm, let me take a look
[03:40] <Dr_willis> I dont really use mint. ;) so never paid attention to it
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> moondog, If your running mint show us your cat /etc/apt/sources.list in a pastebin, spill it dude. ;)
[03:41] <moondog> looks like a mix of ubuntu sources and linuxmint
[03:41] <moondog> ok
[03:41] <benbloom> i cant get NFS version 3 working. I'm losing my mind with this!! nfs2 and nfs4 work. but no nfs3. can someone help?
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, I tried cinnamon a couple of days ago, having unity and the shell the install was like 3 packages very small, and not a bad desktop, I removed it though.
[03:42] <kairos> My boot appears to have stuck at "Stopped Read required files in advance"
[03:42] <devslash> has anyone here had experience with ssh'ing into ubuntu touch ?
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> devslash, I would ask in #ubuntu-touch maybe
[03:43] <Dr_willis> i would think you would install the ssh server, and ssh in as normal.
[03:43] <orangerobot> is there any way to find out what file in /dev corresponds to a pendrive I have plugged in?
[03:43] <moondog> http://pastebin.com/rNKWswJg
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> the touch needs a chroot to mess with it I believe
[03:43] <moondog> not used pastebin before
[03:43] <moondog> hopefully that worked
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> moondog, Thats great thanks yeah the ubuntu repos thar they be in a pirate voice
[03:45] <benbloom> moondog: there's a great program on apt called pastebinit you can just pipe directly to it and it gives you back a link
[03:45] <Dr_willis> orangerobot,  sudo blkid, sudo fdisk -l, or check dmesg output after plugging it in
[03:49] <devslash> wilee-nilee, there isnt anyone talking in that channel
[03:50] <moondog> I installed Linux Mint last week... my plan was to move to lubuntu this weekend... with the goal of better direct compatibility with ubuntu
[03:50] <moondog> just because I'm anal that way
[03:50] <Campfire> hello my question is before ubuntu even starts whats that called
[03:50] <wilee-nilee> devslash, I noticed that, it was just a suggestion, I figured they would know maybe, during the day US it is more busy, just as info.
[03:50] <Dr_willis> 'better direct compatibility'   Sounds like a marketing buzzword
[03:50] <orangerobot> Dr_willis: thanks... blkid was very useful
[03:50] <moondog> yeah
[03:51] <Dr_willis> Campfire,   you mean the GRUB bootloader/menu?
[03:51] <Campfire> yeah maybe before that though
[03:51] <Dr_willis> there really is nothing befor GRUB.. except the PC post screen/info
[03:52] <Dr_willis> power up -> post -> loads the MBR -> loads grub -> loads the os.
[03:52] <devslash> wilee-nilee, i am having trouble with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#SshAccess at the part where it says to do su - phablet it says unknown id
[03:53] <Campfire> DR_willis  ok grub boot loader it is
[03:54] <Campfire> somehow there are 3 oses to choose from there
[03:54] <Campfire> brb toilet
[03:54] <Dr_willis> Campfire,  thts its job. to let you select the os.
[03:54] <Dr_willis> !grub2
[03:57] <Campfire> ok i,m back
[03:57] <Campfire> ty for so far help
[03:57] <Campfire> ok so after bios splash screen you have the grub boot loader
[03:58] <Campfire> screen then you can do cmd or load the os or do recovery if i,m correct
[03:59] <Campfire> point i,m i,m trying to learn the terminoligy and processes before the distro strats
[03:59] <jackdeth> Since you are on the subject of GRUB, I'm in a bind and need help. Let me know when you have a break in the current discussion and I will explain. It's rather lengthy and I don't wish to intrude.
[04:00] <Campfire> i have a break
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> jackdeth, Many users here, post your problem
[04:00] <jackdeth> I have a system with 4 Hard Drives. WD 160GB with WinXP, Hitachi 320GB with Win7Ultimate, WD 1TB partitioned in 2 halves just for data, Seagate 500GB for Ubuntu 13.04.
[04:00] <jackdeth> My former main OS was the XP drive. The drives started failing. Replaced it with the Win7 drive. Later installed Ubuntu and made dual boot between it and Win7.
[04:01] <jackdeth> Recently I thought I'd take out the XP drive. But then my system won't boot. I think GRUB must have been put on that drive by default somehow. How can I get GRUB on my Ubuntu drive (or Win7 drive) so I can still boot to Ubuntu/Win7 so I can take that 160gb drive out?
[04:01] <jackdeth> I read online somewhere you are supposed to be able to put GRUB on both drives so in case one fails it can still boot to the other. Is this correct?
[04:01] <Dr_willis> You cabn have grub on the windows drive or on the linux dedicated drive if you wanted to
[04:01] <Dr_willis> you can put grub on both also..
[04:01] <Dr_willis> you can put grub on a spare usb flash drive if you really wanted to. ;)
[04:02] <Dr_willis> I keep grub on the linux drive. in case i ever remove it.. windows boots normally since its untouched
[04:02] <Campfire> is grub like the mbr
[04:02] <Dr_willis> Grub installs to the MBR
[04:02] <Dr_willis> its a bootloader
[04:02] <wilee-nilee> jackdeth, Down load in ubuntu the bootrepair and run the bootinfo summary only and post its url. When you dual boot windows they combine their boot loader, so removing XP removed part of W7's boot.
[04:02] <wilee-nilee> most likely anyway
[04:04] <Jordan_U> jackdeth: Can you currently boot Ubuntu?
[04:04] <Campfire> what do they call the windows one
[04:05] <Jordan_U> Campfire: ntldr for XP, BCD for Windows Vista +.
[04:05] <Campfire> ok and grub for ubuntu
[04:05] <Campfire> making sence
[04:07] <Campfire> ok for grub is grub2 a more advanced version of the mbr
[04:08] <Dr_willis> grub is old.. grub2 is new.
[04:08] <Campfire> for ubuntu
[04:08] <Campfire> ty
[04:08] <Dr_willis> lilo is an older bootloader.   syslinux,  is a differnt loader
[04:08] <Dr_willis> the wiki pedia for grub may have info
[04:09] <Campfire> ok is grub used on most distros
[04:09] <Dr_willis> used on all of them as far as i know.
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> devslash, I installed touch a couple of times and the ubuntu desktop via phablet but never really messed around with them on my nexus 7 it was not pretty, a couple of months ago anyway.
[04:09] <Dr_willis> except ones that want to use lilo for some weird reason
[04:09] <devslash> its better now. not complete but much better. ive been installing the latest nightly about 102 times per month on average
[04:10] <devslash> err 1-2
[04:10] <Nmbr1> Campfire: if you are curious about different kinds of bootloaders, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_boot_loaders includes some charts comparing the simlarities and differences between many different bootloaders.
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> devslash, Yeah I figured they are coming along, the desktop would be my interest.
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> It ran normally I installed lubuntu
[04:11] <miltonh26> does anyone have a solution for the package update error:
[04:11] <miltonh26>  W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring_universe_binary-amd64_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[04:11] <Campfire> ok ntlrd  for xp bcd for vista grub and grub 2 for mogority of distros and lilo for syslinux
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> miltonh26, This showing as a partial upgrade?
[04:13] <miltonh26> yes, the updater is unable to pull repositories
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> miltonh26 It happens don't run a partial, it generally is missing dependencies, or other things, I would wait for it to clear to a clear update.
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> usually happens in a day or two
[04:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> hello, I understand that the dpkg operations are ran as root, but how can I get the user $HOME variable to use in a preinst script?
[04:14] <JackDeth> I'm terribly sorry. I'm having flaky issues with my internet and keep getting disconnected.
[04:15] <JackDeth> If anyone left a response, I did not get it. :-(
[04:15] <miltonh26> wilee-nilee: : I've been having the issue on more than one Ubuntu 13.04 for weeks.
[04:16] <miltonh26> wilee-nilee: should I do a sudo apt-get clean first? Delete repository files in /var/lib/apt?
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> JackDeth, Not sure how the two others feel, but the bootinfo summary from the bootrepair app would help me see what is going on, you can run just that from the app.
[04:17] <Campfire> i,m trying to converet my thinking from the way windows and ubuntu uses there os may i ask a fey more questions
[04:17] <JackDeth> wilee....let's pretend for a moment I'm a total idiot.....because I am.  :-P    How do I do what you just said?
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> miltonh26, Yeah try copy and pasting sudo apt-get autoremove ; sudo apt-get auto-clean ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:18] <miltonh26> wilee-nilee: will do try thanks.
[04:18] <JackDeth> Do I just click the launcher and type in "Boot Repair"?
[04:18] <JackDeth> Oh. I think I found the app you are referring to.
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> JackDeth, Download this app to ubuntu or a live cd and run just the bootinfo summary, it generates a url you can post. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[04:19] <Campfire> ok programs are packages if i,m correct that uses hard ware that are dependentces and rpos that are drivers
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> miltonh26, Made one mistake it is  sudo apt-get autoremove ; sudo apt-get autoclean ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:20] <JackDeth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5892956/
[04:21] <wilee-nilee> JackDeth, When I see this /grldr it looks like pirate ware, not sure here just saying
[04:21] <miltonh26> wilee-nilee: yes, I caught that. thx. just ran sudo apt-get update and get the same error
[04:22] <wilee-nilee> miltonh26, Not sure then myself if you have been having this problem where to go without just googling stuff.
[04:23] <Atri_> Hello
[04:24] <miltonh26> wilee-nilee: yes, I have googled it at least a 1/2 dozen times look for a solution. Butno go. Did log a bug and saw others are having the same issue.
[04:24] <Campfire> ok after grub loads i pick a linux version then goes to password screen whats the next step bash or shell or something like that
[04:24] <wilee-nilee> JackDeth, Not saying you knew this or had any intentions but that notation is not in any legit windows install, however you can get W8.1 the development release for free and it auto activates.
[04:25] <benbloom> okay. I think I may have broken my NFS server with my network settings. can someone take a look? /etc/hostname 'Tristan' /etc/hosts: http://paste.debian.net/17197/ /etc/network/interfaces: http://paste.debian.net/17198/
[04:25] <miltonh26> wilee-nilee: thanks for the help. it is appreciated.
[04:25] <midfingr> hello
[04:26] <orangerobot> what is the difference between /var/log/kern.log e /var/log/dmesg?
[04:27] <taek> kern.log is for kernel only?
[04:27] <Anonynous> test
[04:27] <midfingr> is there a channel for ubuntu 13.10 by chance?
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> midfingr, #ubuntu+1
[04:28] <midfingr> thank you :)
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[04:28] <jackdeth> Darn connection dropped again.  :-/
[04:28] <benbloom> 'rpcinfo -p localhost' output: 'rpcinfo: can't contact portmapper: RPC: Remote system error - Connection timed out'
[04:28] <jackdeth> Did you get the URL I sent with the report?
[04:29] <rabbitface2> [A
[04:29] <rabbitface2> [A
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> jackdeth, Yes, when I see this /grldr it looks like pirate ware, not sure here just saying. Not saying you knew this or had any intentions but that notation is not in any legit windows install, however you can get W8.1 the development release for free and it auto activates. Here are my two posts.
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> I'm not accusing you, it is none of my business.
[04:30] <Campfire> wilee ty for help so far i,ll wait till this finishes if you just have time to talk ubuntu basics or is there a beter channal
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> Campfire, I'm just a armchair user, I barely know the basics.
[04:31] <jackdeth> I'm not entirely sure what you were just saying, but I have the physical Win7 disc, black face with kind of a halo looking thing around the outer edge....
[04:31] <jackdeth> Bought it at a local reputable computer store.
[04:32] <Campfire> i have no idia what a arm chair is
[04:33] <wilee-nilee> jackdeth, THis line looks normal in the script except for the (/grldr) /boot.ini /grldr /bootmgr /Boot/BCD /grldr /ntldr  /NTDETECT.COM  that would not be on a MS install from their disc. Anyway that is a bit more convoluted than I can feel that I can get you what is needed.
[04:34] <wilee-nilee> I would talk with the sellers of that disc if it were me,
[04:35] <jackdeth> Well, it's a Windows store. They said they don't use Linux and suggested I come here for help getting this boot loader thing to work right.
[04:35] <jackdeth> Should I just play around with this boot rapair utility, maybe?
[04:36] <jackdeth> rapair=repair
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> jackdeth, Cool, like I say it is not my business, I was just passing info,
[04:36] <taek> Yo, anyway to make programs to snap to the edges of the screen?
[04:36] <Campfire> firmware of hdd ?
[04:37] <wilee-nilee> Campfire, Armchair is a colloquial of I'm an amateur.
[04:37] <wilee-nilee> poser, fake.....etc
[04:37] <wilee-nilee> lol
[04:38] <Campfire> could pc bios mess up getting linux grub bl to
[04:39] <jackdeth> That's ok. Well, thanks anyway for at least looking into it.
[04:39] <miltonh26> taek: install Unity Tweak to control window snapping
[04:40] <ziggy> anyone having random crashes with ubuntu 13.04 ?
[04:40] <taek> miltonh26: will do thanks
[04:41] <Ari-Yang> ziggy, your question is kind of vague
[04:42] <Campfire> if your a armchair i,m  the armchair basement leval
[04:42] <miltonh26> ziggy: yes. caused I think by the nvidia optimus driver even with bumblebee installed
[04:42] <miltonh26> seems to happen on mouse movements
[04:45] <ziggy> to revise my question ubuntu crashes randomly when i use google chrome , or just browsing external drive,  i have ati drivers installed.
[04:46] <wilee-nilee> ziggy, Has it always?
[04:46] <ziggy> yes since install
[04:46] <miltonh26> ziggy, how does it crash?
[04:46] <Campfire> armchair this is doorknob asking if you still out out there
[04:46] <Campfire> my bad
[04:46] <miltonh26> hard crash or graphics hang?
[04:46] <ziggy> completely locks up
[04:46] <ziggy> hard crash
[04:47] <wilee-nilee> ziggy, what is the hardware as far as chip and ram amount.
[04:47] <miltonh26> ziggy, does the mouse work but cannot click anything?
[04:47] <ziggy> 3.4 x2 4gb ddr2 ati 5850
[04:48] <ziggy> yes i cant click anything
[04:48] <miltonh26> ziggy, yes, same as me. there are many ppl having the same issue. which kernel are you using?
[04:49] <miltonh26> you might want to try upgrading
[04:49] <wilee-nilee> ziggy, I'm wondering if something is eating the ram and it goes to swap, have you looked at what is running, I use htop at times but have a conky with that info as far as use.
[04:49] <gjdjtpjmdyt> asdf
[04:49] <Y111> #221
[04:50] <ziggy> 3.8.0-26-generic, yes i have the base system running
[04:50] <ziggy> no other programs
[04:50] <ziggy> sorry if im a noob im trying to switch from windows
[04:50] <Campfire> one question can you up grade and down grade kernals on ubuntu and keep settings
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> ziggy, Sure but something in the OS might be driving it hard, it is difficult to tell from here at least for me.
[04:51] <Dr_willis> settings? the kernels dont affect users settings in their home.. what settingd do you mean Campfire ?
[04:52] <Campfire> drivers packages etc
[04:52] <Campfire> i,m learning as we go
[04:52] <ziggy> looking at system monitor Xorg has the highest cpu usage at 3-8%
[04:53] <ziggy> load avg 0.01 0.11 0.40
[04:54] <ziggy> i do have xfce
[04:54] <Campfire> ok xorg and  xfce
[04:55] <Campfire> anything else you have ziggy
[04:56] <ziggy> not really
[04:57] <Campfire> i forget if xorg and xfce  have to do with mininal and max installs or video can you refresh me
[05:01] <Campfire> i was thinking to learn ubuntu fast i would set up a grafix card with four monitors have wiki on one with like a linux dragon speak
[05:01] <Campfire> to ask a question and make it speak the definision
[05:03] <paul2323> Hey guys, am I right in thinking that (after some our or two of research), that there is NO solution to syncing or adding music to iOS (iphone 4/4s) above iOS4, using linux? (ubuntu 13.04)
[05:03] <taek> paul2323: as far as I know, ipod/ipad is not supported on linux
[05:04] <Ari-Yang> paul2323, afaik Apple gadgets like ipod/ipad/iphone are compatible with ofc Mac OS and Windows (because windows has iTunes afaik)
[05:04] <paul2323> right. so im still dual-os'ing Windows 8 (with iTunes), and ubuntu 13.04
[05:05] <paul2323> (and i have mint 14 installed, but not active. Wasnt doing it for me)
[05:05] <paul2323> so i basically only use Win 8 for the itunes. I haven't run into much , aside from some niche apps, that i can't use Ubuntu for
[05:06] <paul2323> That works 'okay' for myself, but my girlfriend has an older laptop (2.0ghz dual core, 2gb ram, ~230gb HDD)
[05:06] <paul2323> and we were looking at maybe putting ubuntu 32 bit on it, but iOS syncing is a dealbreaker for her
[05:06] <riqdiiz> Hi I have a modem huawei but won't connect. Any help?
[05:07] <Ari-Yang> paul2323, what you just said is all irrelevant lol this is an ubuntu support channel :b if you want you can stop by #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:07] <paul2323> is it off topic?
[05:07] <Ari-Yang> kind of
[05:07] <Ari-Yang> *shrugs*
[05:07] <paul2323> i'll stop then, didn't realize.
[05:08] <paul2323> for the record, is it because my concern isn't necessarily ubuntu specific?
[05:08] <Campfire> can you make ubuntu dual boot to ios
[05:08] <Ari-Yang> !offtopic > paul2323
[05:08] <paul2323> kk
[05:08] <paul2323> thx
[05:12] <riqdiiz> Is there a gta version of the game that can run on Ubuntu?
[05:13] <syntroPi> paul2323, have you read about http://www.libimobiledevice.org/
[05:14] <Nmbr1> riqdiiz: this channel is for Ubuntu support questions. If you have questions about GTA you may find #ubuntu-offtopic of some help
[05:14] <paul2323> syntroPi, that's EXACTLY what i read. which is why i'm led to believe there is no solution atm.
[05:15] <riqdiiz> Nmbr1: thanks
[05:15] <Nmbr1> riqdiiz: no worries
[05:18] <syntroPi> paul2323, hmm i never tried that, what exactly do you want to accomplish? I thought this lib is for sync (eg music via rhythmbox, amarok and such)...
[05:18] <syntroPi> also there is always wine to run itunes on linux
[05:19] <Ari-Yang> but wine isn't reliable.... it may "get the job done" though
[05:21] <syntroPi> yeah but i thought that lib is for native support reverse engineering
[05:21] <syntroPi> also there is ideviceinstaller  fot the aps
[05:21] <syntroPi> apps
[05:22] <syntroPi> just read about it, i dont own any apple product so i cant know how stable or complete that is though its always worth a try imho
[05:30] <paul2323> syntroPi, Sorry, i was checking other channel. Generally i gather that as of iOS 4.x.x, (which was a couple years ago or more, can't remember), Apple has added enough 'security' layers that make it VERY difficult for linux-heads to rev-engineer a fix for the syncing issue
[05:30] <paul2323> and basically no iOS devices post 4.x.x can sync their music library specifically.
[05:43] <syntroPi> paul2323, ah ok didnt know that
[05:44] <paul2323> yup
[05:44] <paul2323> so if you have ancient ipods, you are okay
[05:44] <paul2323> but if you are my girlfriend who has a iPhone 4s, you can't afford to switch to linux without dual-os'ing, or saying goodbye to ever changing the music on your device.
[05:46] <Nmbr1> syntroPi: you're other option is us a vm
[05:46] <crankharder> I just installed and see running php-fpm, but there's no socket??  I think it's supposed to be at /var/run/php5-fpm.sock, but it's not and there's no mention of it in php's conf file
[05:46] <paul2323> vm = virtual machine / virtual box?
[05:47] <syntroPi> Nmbr1, i use android which feels like a home run on linux
[05:47] <Nmbr1> vm = virtual machine. vmware (vmplayer or vmworkstation) and virtualbox will let you create VMs
[05:47] <syntroPi> yes i use those already extensively
[05:48] <Nmbr1> if you have an ubuntu vm on windows or windows vm on ubuntu that should take care of the iPhone issue
[05:48] <Nmbr1> use whichever has windows (vm or host) for iTunes
[05:49] <syntroPi> paul2323,  if i were you i would just do some checking and also maybe try to compile the latest trunk
[05:49] <paul2323> I believe i have the latest stuff. o well.
[05:49] <paul2323> i'll try a couple more things
[05:49] <histo> Ari-Yang: wine doesn't support usb
[05:49] <paul2323> my gf won't care if she has to stick to windows. she's used to it anyway. And im dropping iOS for android soon anywa
[05:49] <paul2323> anyway*
[05:50] <syntroPi> just curious since they claim to support all those latest idevices
[05:50] <paul2323> enough about my issue tho, it's off topic :P
[05:50] <syntroPi> k
[05:51] <C130RG> #oo
[05:51] <client> Hello
[05:51] <histo> paul2323: I don't think getting your ipod to work with ubuntu is off topic. But you've already received answers
[05:52] <client> Would anybody be interested in testing my chat app I built with node.js? I just wanna see if it works globally
[05:52] <paul2323> well it's linux wide, from all indications
[05:54] <aeon-ltd> client: ask in offtopic
[05:54] <client> Wheres that?
[05:54] <client> *aeon-ltd
[05:56] <coolstar> can I get mod-spdy for Apache 2.2 on my Ubuntu Server using apt-get or do I have to download their deb file?
[05:58] <client> have you tried to apt-get command? coolstar
[05:58] <coolstar> client: problem is, I don't know the package id
[05:59] <client> coolstar see here: code.google.com/p/mod-spdy/‎
[06:00] <histo> coolstar: https://developers.google.com/speed/spdy/mod_spdy/
[06:00] <histo> coolstar: they have debs there
[06:00] <client> wait coolstar I don't think apt-get will work
[06:00] <coolstar> ok I'll just wget the debs and install them then
[06:00] <client> see here coolstar: http://googledevelopers.blogspot.com/2012/04/add-spdy-support-to-your-apache-server.html
[06:01] <client> they say download the .deb
[06:01] <Phoenix1969> oh boy, so after completely removing the ssd, and installing it into another drive, reformatting it, reinstalling it, and reloading win7, i still get the grub screen with one win7 and two ubunyu choives, lol
[06:01] <Phoenix1969> 20:00 <Phoenix1969> unbuntu is on the os choosing screen 2x, when its completely uninstalled and i used the boot repair, still there
[06:01] <Phoenix1969> i even cleared cmos
[06:02] <Droopsta915> hello. im trying to upgrade my ubuntu 11.04. i downloaded the gmount iso folder but cant instal. the folder is on my desktop. what command can i install it with?
[06:03] <client> Phoenix1969 when you say it's on the screen twice, are you referring to the normal and safe mode?
[06:04] <watch> hello
[06:04] <Phoenix1969> no, on the grub screen
[06:04] <watch> how can i boot ubuntu without internet ?
[06:04] <Phoenix1969> has windows once, ubuntu 2x,  nothing else written
[06:04] <client> yeah. on the grub screen, is 1 a safe mode?
[06:04] <watch> without waiting
[06:05] <Droopsta915> i tried ./configure
[06:06] <client> Droopsta915 is it a folder or a .iso file?
[06:06] <client> watch you don't need the internet to start ubuntu.
[06:07] <Jordan_U> Droopsta915: That's not how you upgrade Ubuntu.
[06:07] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | Droopsta915
[06:07] <Droopsta915> client: its gmount iso folder on my desktop. i downloaded a newer ubuntu iso to install but need to install the gmount iso folder first
[06:08] <client> Droopsta915 why don't you burn the .iso file onto a disk instead?
[06:09] <Droopsta915> Client: im using inspiron 1012 netbook. no cd drive
[06:09] <client> Droopsta915 what about a usb flash stick?
[06:10] <Jordan_U> client: Droopsta915: You don't use an Ubuntu CD (burned or not) to upgrade to a newer version of Ubuntu (unless by "upgrade" you mean re-install preserving /home/).
[06:11] <Phoenix1969> can i  just eliminate the grub screen somehow?
[06:11] <client> Jordan_U: Even upgrades of Ubuntu come on .iso? I thought he was referring to the .iso that you download for a new ubuntu
[06:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> I just dput my tarball to my ppa, but I'm seeing no activity in the web-browser, how long does it take? its a tiny package, really just a postinst script to automate some things.
[06:12] <aeon-ltd> Phoenix1969: pretty sure you can hide it or put the timer to 0
[06:13] <Phoenix1969> how?
[06:13] <Jordan_U> client: No, they don't (which is what I'm trying to tell Droopsta915). Droopsta915 stated in their first message that they're trying to upgrade to a newer version of Ubuntu.
[06:13] <Phoenix1969> theres no ubunto even on the system, and i cant rid the grub screen
[06:13] <aeon-ltd> Phoenix1969: it's in the config
[06:14] <Phoenix1969> windows config?
[06:14] <Phoenix1969> what config?
[06:14] <taek> dfdew
[06:14] <aeon-ltd> Phoenix1969: grub configuration
[06:15] <Phoenix1969> how do i get to grub config?
[06:15] <aeon-ltd> Phoenix1969: what do you have installed if not ubuntu?
[06:15] <Phoenix1969> win7
[06:15] <Droopsta915> Jordan_U: yes. 11.04 doesnt upgrade anymore. i have a new ubuntu iso on my flash drive but need to mount. i have to install gmount iso folder fom my desktop. how can i install the folder in terminal
[06:16] <Phoenix1969> and thats after a total reformat
[06:16] <Phoenix1969> the grub still there
[06:16] <aeon-ltd> Phoenix1969: of the whole hdd?
[06:16] <Phoenix1969> yes
[06:16] <aeon-ltd> that's impossible unless you installed grub after windows or you have 2 hdds
[06:17] <client> Phoenix1969 are you sure you formatted correctly? Removed partitions too?
[06:18] <Phoenix1969> i unplugged all other drives, and reformatted the ssd on   another system, then did a fresh win7 install, and when i finally rebooted, the grub screen is there with win7 and 2 ubuntu choices, lol
[06:18] <Phoenix1969> remove partitions.....hmm
[06:18] <Jordan_U> Droopsta915: You cannot install Ubuntu from that iso except by booting from it. Period.
[06:18] <aeon-ltd> Phoenix1969: unplugged other drives?
[06:18] <Phoenix1969> yes
[06:18] <Jordan_U> !eol | Droopsta915
[06:19] <client> make sure that there's no partitions left on the drive.
[06:19] <aeon-ltd> Phoenix1969: are they plugged in now? and what is the boot order?
[06:19] <Phoenix1969> not plugged in now still, only 1 ssd
[06:21] <client> Even if there is more than 1 drive, it'll be a highly complex task to boot from 2 different drives. so the issue isn't there. it looks like you didn't reformat properly
[06:22] <client> (if booting from 2 different drives is impossible in itself)
[06:22] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Phoenix1969
[06:23] <client> !google
[06:23] <client> :'D
[06:24] <Droopsta915> Jodan_U: mounting a newer release wont help me?
[06:24] <Droopsta915> Jordan_U:ill try the eol link. thank you.
[06:24] <client> Droopsta915 which version of ubuntu are you trying to upgrade to?
[06:24] <Droopsta915> client: 11.04
[06:25] <client> oh. you're trying to do system updates
[06:25] <client> as Jordan_U said, if 11.04 is at its eol, maybe you should consider downloading ubuntu 12.04
[06:26] <Jordan_U> Droopsta915: You're welcome.
[06:27] <Droopsta915> client: yes. i downloaded 12.04 on my flashdrive as an iso file, but cant mount it. i have gmount iso floder on desktop, but dont know how to install it
[06:29] <client> ok Droopsta915 let me look for a method for you for installing ubuntu via flash. Is your pc old?
[06:30] <Droopsta915> client: about 2 years old inspiron mini 1012
[06:31] <client> ok so you should be able to boot from usb
[06:32] <Droopsta915> client: yes. usb will work. i gues downloadind iso to usb was my 1st mistake. should i install 12.04 on usb?
[06:32] <client> Droopsta915 see here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-desktop-long-term-support
[06:32] <client> even if you downloaded the iso to usb, it doesn't matter. you can just transfer it back to your pc and then 'burn' the iso onto the usb
[06:34] <Droopsta915> client: thank you. ill check it out. crossing fingers. UBUNTU for LIFE!!!! goodnight
[06:36] <taek> Lili
[06:36] <client> my pleasure Droopsta915. if you need help, come back.
[06:36] <taek> Droopsta915: if you're USB device supports it, you can turn it into an installation/live media device
[06:37] <taek> I do it all the time with mine.
[06:38] <client> taek you're = you are
[06:40] <taek> client: excuse me.
[06:40] <taek> I understand the need to be as correct as possible, but I am currently or was at that moment multi-tasking
[06:41] <client> yeah I get that taek. but that typo was a killer. i couldn't resist
[06:41] <taek> Hah. grammer-nazi
[06:41] <awaken|zzz> hey peeps :) Anyone know how to get a displaylink USB adapter to work under 13.04 ? Been googling around the forums etc, not found anything useful
[06:42] <client> sounds like you need a driver awaken
[06:43] <awaken|zzz> apparently it's built into the kernel
[06:43] <awaken|zzz> according to http://www.displaylink.com/technology/common_questions.php anyway
[06:44] <awaken|zzz> should warn i'm a bit of a noob :P
[06:44] <awaken|zzz> no mention on http://libdlo.freedesktop.org/wiki/ of any ubuntu past 9.10 though :/
[06:46] <client> im a noob too.
[06:46] <client> i just learn a little each day
[06:46] <Jordan_U> client: I assume you've tried just plugging it in and checking the Display Settings (from GNOME Control Center)?
[06:47] <awaken|zzz> yep
[06:47] <client> wrong person Jordan_U
[06:47] <client> redirect to: awaken|zzz
[06:48] <Jordan_U> awaken|zzz: I assume you've tried just plugging it in and checking the Display Settings (from GNOME Control Center)?
[06:49] <awaken|zzz> yeah , thats what the yep was for :D
[06:49] <awaken|zzz> sorry was that a whisper? first time using xchat, more used to hydra etc
[06:52] <awaken|zzz> and same here client  :P had mucho fun configuring  and securing my business webserver recently. Small business entrepreneurs have to do it for themselves! :D
[06:53] <awaken|zzz> and i say noob, although I did actually first start with slackware in 96, and eventually got too annoyed with redhat 5 and suse 5 recompiling kernel to get audio and stuff working and gave up on nix for more than a decade lol.
[06:53] <client> awaken you could get a dev or sysadmin to do the setup for you for $15 an hour
[06:54] <awaken|zzz> screw that! im geeky enough :P
[06:54] <client> maybe redhat was a bad choice. shuda tried debian instead
[06:54] <awaken|zzz> and it's also encouraged me to whack ubuntu 13.04 on my main desktop, which has got to be a good thing
[06:54] <awaken|zzz> and I think back in 96/97 ish debian was just as annoying as suse/redhat
[06:55] <client> servers have been running on linux for a very long time
[06:55] <client> probably just a lot harder back then
[06:55] <awaken|zzz> everything was
[06:55] <awaken|zzz> mind u, sort of simpler too
[06:56] <awaken|zzz> there wasn't so many different ways of skinning the same cat
[06:56] <awaken|zzz> or multilayered technologies
[06:56] <awaken|zzz> e.g. pulse on alsa and oss - so many different bits to fail
[06:56] <awaken|zzz> and all the different ways of starting/stoping service
[06:56] <awaken|zzz> etc. etc
[06:57] <acn> hi, i need help
[06:58] <acn> anyone here?
[06:58] <poz> i am
[06:58] <awaken|zzz> so any ideas on displaylink? it's the number 1 reason for me not choosing ubuntu whenever my PC boots :P
[06:58] <awaken|zzz> losing my 3rd screen
[06:58] <acn> how do u do a dual boot win xp and ubuntu?
[06:58] <awaken|zzz> whack ubuntu disc, in, follow instructions, works a treat :P
[06:58] <poz> isent there a setting for that when you are installing ubuntu?
[06:59] <awaken|zzz> not for me, i had to be difficult and install ubuntu on the spare space of an intel raid SRT caching volume :P
[06:59] <awaken|zzz> that was a pain :P
[06:59] <poz> you have a few options, one is to erase windows and install ubuntu, one is to create a partition and dual boot with win and ubuntu...
[07:00] <awaken|zzz> he's gone
[07:00] <poz> i think there is another
[07:00] <poz> oh
[07:00] <awaken|zzz> but i think it just lets you do an install on a folder on the windows drive
[07:00] <poz> awaken, you any good at wireless adaptors?
[07:00] <awaken|zzz> if you choose to "install alongside windows"
[07:00] <poz> yeah, i think that was the third one. to install alongside windows...
[07:00] <awaken|zzz> never tried it with ubuntu but it did that with mint and im guessing they just pinched it straight from ubuntu installer
[07:00] <client> choose that option poz
[07:00] <client> create partition
[07:01] <poz> sorry?
[07:01] <awaken|zzz> it was acn that wanted to know and hes gone
[07:01] <awaken|zzz> and probably not poz but two puzzeled brains are often better than 1! :D
[07:01] <client> poz if you're new to ubuntu, try a wubi install. although i dont think wubi is supported anymore.
[07:01] <poz> i got rid of windows
[07:02] <client> so your HDD is empty?
[07:02] <poz> well i installed backports from here: http://drvbp1.linux-foundation.org/~mcgrof/rel-html/backports/
[07:02] <awaken|zzz> client, it worked in mint 14 and pretty sure its all still there on ubuntu 13.04
[07:02] <client> do a direct install then
[07:02] <awaken|zzz> and poz is already running linux client :D
[07:02] <aeon-ltd> if you ever want windows, reinstall it first, reinstalling grub is not fun
[07:02] <poz> and then my usb wireless adaptor stoped working
[07:02] <poz> client, that was someone else with the problem, not me
[07:03] <varunendra> client, it was another user who wanted help with dualboot. They quit. ;)
[07:03] <poz> my problem is much harder to solve
[07:03] <varunendra> poz, I think you tried the proprietary wireless driver yesterday. Didn't that help?
[07:03] <awaken|zzz> reinstalling grub is easy anyway, http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[07:04] <awaken|zzz> so whats your problem poz? :)
[07:04] <poz> no it did not help. i also returned that one and bought another one that i thought would be more compatible. maybe i was wrong
[07:04] <poz> i plug in the usb wireless adapter and ubuntu simply does not see it.
[07:05] <poz> i bought this one: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX40893
[07:05] <varunendra> poz, oh now I remember .... you tried the backported kernel
[07:06] <poz> yeah, i am currently trying and older version now to see if that will work
[07:06] <awaken|zzz> poz, is this for a desktop? might i suggest an easy solution... http://goo.gl/Iuerp
[07:06] <varunendra> poz, what is its product id (lsusb)? Do you know which driver it uses?
[07:07] <poz> trying this one: compat-drivers-3.9-rc4-2-su
[07:07] <poz> laptop
[07:07] <awaken|zzz> and the internel wifi not supported? ow
[07:07] <poz> this is the result from lsusb: Bus 001 Device 005: ID 13b1:003b Linksys
[07:07] <poz> not much info
[07:08] <client> oh my bad poz
[07:10] <varunendra> poz, that device is supported by the native driver rt2800usb. Does it load for it?
[07:10] <poz> not sure. i think i broke my computer. is there a way i can see if i still have the driver?
[07:11] <varunendra> poz, you can fine many things by looking at the result of "wireless_script" while the adapter is plugged in and tries/fails to connect (or detect) : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[07:12] <varunendra> s/fine/find
[07:13] <poz> can i send files over irc?
[07:13] <varunendra> !pastebin | poz
[07:13] <client> poz is your wireless card not working?
[07:13] <taek> Ubuntu 12.03 didn't come with an IM client?
[07:13] <cplx> Hi Guys - I have a macbook pro with a samsung 840ssd... running Ubuntu 13.04 - What is the best way to enable AHCI as I don't have a bios :P...
[07:13] <poz> client, no its not
[07:13] <varunendra> taek, when did 12.03 come out ;P
[07:14] <taek> you know what I mean varunendra
[07:14] <varunendra> :D
[07:14] <varunendra> Empathy?
[07:15] <taek> I think i'll install pidgin
[07:16] <poz> here is the results from the wireless_script: http://pastebin.com/Lwmj9gJB
[07:16] <varunendra> taek, Empathy is the default IM client in 12.04, works pretty well for me. But its your choice of course.
[07:16] <taek> I use pidgin on my laptop
[07:17] <taek> Does Empathy support OTR varunendra ?
[07:17] <client> looks like your wlan is there poz
[07:17] <client> wlan)
[07:17] <client> wlan)
[07:17] <client> wlan0
[07:17] <FloodBot1> client: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:17] <cplx> Hi Guys - I have a macbook pro with a samsung 840ssd... running Ubuntu 13.04 - What is the best way to enable AHCI as I don't have a bios :P...
[07:17] <poz> client, but not wlan1
[07:17] <varunendra> taek, what is OTR? I don't know about it.
[07:18] <client> .
[07:18] <poz> my internal wireless card works. it is my usb wireless adapter that does not work
[07:18] <client> why would i get muted
[07:18] <client> oh
[07:18] <taek> varunendra: http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/
[07:18] <client> an external device
[07:18] <poz> it did before i installed the backports, then it stoped working and its like its not even plugged in
[07:19] <poz> i want to install the rt2800usb drivers, but i am unsure how
[07:19] <poz> this page seems to be where i need to be: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/rt2800usb
[07:20] <varunendra> poz, what is output of 'modinfo rt2800usb' ?
[07:20] <poz> but i am unsure how to install the drivers given that site
[07:20] <taek> doesn't look like it does
[07:21] <poz> modinfo rt2800usb ----> http://pastebin.com/DWay9qdP
[07:21] <client> poz have you looked in: Settings > Additional Drivers ?
[07:21] <krolow> i'm trying to install manually the build-essentials in 14.03, and i'm getting an error while installling dpkg-dev "The package is of bad quality", does someone know how i can get it installed?
[07:22] <varunendra> taek, yeah, I couldn't find that or a similar option in a quick glance. Doesn't seem like it does OTR (unless it is hidden somewhere in the settings)
[07:23] <taek> varunendra: it's fine i'll just install pidgin
[07:23] <poz> the only "additional drives" that show up are for my graphics card
[07:24] <varunendra> krolow, "apt-get install --print-uris build-essential" -- > will return download links of the required packages instead of downloading them.
[07:24] <varunendra> poz, additional drivers shows proprietary drivers. rt2800usb is native.
[07:24] <cplx> Hi Guys - I have a macbook pro with a samsung 840ssd... running Ubuntu 13.04 - What is the best way to enable AHCI as I don't have a bios :P...
[07:25] <poz> oh okay, and it looks like i have it installed
[07:25] <poz> so i am so confused as to why it does not show up
[07:25] <poz> is there a setting which disabled the use of two wireless cards?
[07:25] <krolow> varunendra: oh i didn't know about this param, thank you, but i have ran and received "unable to locate package"
[07:27] <varunendra> krolow, make sure all the repositories are enabled in Software Center. Then do an update - sudo apt-get update.
[07:28] <krolow> varunendra: okay, i gonna try here, i'm downloading manually because i do not have internet access in this computer, so i'm trying to install the packages to be able to compile the network card
[07:29] <krolow> varunendra: thank you
[07:29] <varunendra> np :)
[07:30] <varunendra> krolow, which network card are you installing it for ?
[07:31] <varunendra> poz, I overlooked something last time. Apparently, that VID : PID combo does not exist in rt2800usb. Which means it won't recognize that atapter.
[07:32] <cplx> Hi Guys - I have a macbook pro with a samsung 840ssd... running Ubuntu 13.04 - What is the best way to enable AHCI as I don't have a bios :P...
[07:32] <krolow> varunendra: it's actually a wireless adapter by usb, RTL8188CUS, and it is not autheticating in the wireless network, it's actually mostly working without any driver but it's not authenticating properly...
[07:33] <varunendra> krolow, which OS version? And did you try the available parameters for the driver?
[07:33] <poz> varunendra. is that real life?
[07:34] <poz> it is going to look so bad when i have to return a second adapter in a week
[07:34] <krolow> varunendra: ubuntu 13.04, about the paraments for the driver i haven't tried, i want to compile here the drive but i need to have some packages installed, so that's what i'm trying to do here
[07:35] <varunendra> poz, unfortunately it is :( You may have some luck with ndiswrapper... or lookup linux drivers for 13b1:003b (my net is crawling @ 4-5 kB/s)
[07:36] <varunendra> krolow, I'm not sure about installed version, but those Realtek drivers build fine on live session of 13.04, without build-essential.
[07:37] <poz> hummm, okay. thanks anyways varunendra
[07:38] <varunendra> krolow, you may try the "swenc=Y" parameter for the native driver.... if it helps, you won't need the proprietary one.
[07:38] <krolow> varunendra: how do i set this param? i'm a totally noob here :(
[07:41] <varunendra> krolow, assuming it is rtl8192cu driver, you can try - "sudo modprobe -rfv rtl8192cu".... then ... "sudo modprobe -v rtl8192cu swenc=Y" . The first command will remove the driver, the second one will load it with the desired parameter.
[07:42] <varunendra> krolow, this is a temporary parameter, will be lost at next boot.
[07:43] <krolow> varunendra: oh i see, i gonna give a try here for that, i could figure out here the problem with the invalid package, i have download another and finally got the build-essential, but i still get the error while compiling, i gona try what you have mention
[07:44] <varunendra> k
[07:45] <krolow> tried here, still the same, i have removed the wirelesss auth protection, but even with this disable and setuping static ip, it does not work
[07:46] <krolow> varunendra: what i found strange is that network appears avaliable, i just not enable to connect...
[07:47] <varunendra> krolow, I'd like to see a detailed report : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385 Try this when the adapter is plugged in, but fails to connect.
[07:49] <krolow> varunendra: okay, let me dowload and move to the computer with the issue
[07:50] <DuncanNZ> Does Ubuntu use wpa_supplicant as its underlying wifi system? I have manpages and example config files for wpa_supplicant already on my system, but not an actual config file…
[07:53] <cplx>  Hi Guys - I have a macbook pro with a samsung 840ssd... running Ubuntu 13.04 - What is the best way to enable AHCI as I don't have a bios :P...
[07:54] <krolow> varunendra: https://gist.github.com/krolow/07d9a3abfbbfc7fdfc07
[07:54] <DarKraft> hasadna
[07:54] <varunendra> DuncanNZ, I believe Network Manager uses it implicitly, not sure about its configuration files though.
[07:55] <DuncanNZ> varunendra: OK, that's what I suspected considered I have it installed – it’s just so odd I can't find the config file in any of the normal places, nor using a `locate wpa_supplicant.conf`
[07:55] <varunendra> DuncanNZ, probably use variants of "find" command ;)
[07:56] <DuncanNZ> varunendra: an example please ☺
[07:57] <DuncanNZ> or does anyone know where wpa_supplicant.conf is normally stored on Ubuntu?
[07:58] <varunendra> DuncanNZ, find /etc -name "*supplicant*"
[07:59] <varunendra> returns /etc/wpa_supplicant
[07:59] <DuncanNZ> which is a directory on my system
[08:00] <DuncanNZ> and the config file is nowhere to be seen inside it?
[08:00] <DuncanNZ> Just three files: action_wpa.sh , functions.sh , ifupdown.sh …
[08:01] <POVaddct> DuncanNZ: if wpa_supplicant is controlled by network-manager, there is no need for a config file. so there is none.
[08:01] <POVaddct> DuncanNZ: why do you want to see the config file?
[08:01] <DuncanNZ> POVaddct: So where does it store passwords, etc?
[08:01] <DuncanNZ> As an example for another system which is CLI only
[08:02] <DuncanNZ> and is having trouble connecting to the same network, so I want to see what my config file looks like
[08:02] <POVaddct> DuncanNZ: network-manager does that, somewhere in gconf
[08:03] <POVaddct> DuncanNZ: if you want to have a wpa_supplicant.conf for a cli only system, you can generate one (for wpa) with wpa_passphrase
[08:03] <DuncanNZ> POVaddct: Thanks
[08:03] <POVaddct> DuncanNZ: wpa_passphrase YOUR_ESSID > wpa_supplicant.conf
[08:03] <POVaddct> DuncanNZ: (type in passphrase)
[08:03] <DuncanNZ> POVaddct: Thanks for that, I’ll be back soon after trying that
[08:03] <POVaddct> DuncanNZ: then look into wpa_supplicant.conf to see the syntax
[08:05] <varunendra> krolow, I couldn't get any hints in the report. It maybe the driver's fault, or it may be mine for not being able to guess. Can you normally *see* the available networks with that adapter?
[08:05] <superdo> hi
[08:06] <krolow> varunendra: yes i can, it's not authorizing and so i have test disable the wireless protection even disabled it is not working
[08:06] <superdo> if I connect an external hdd to my laptop, can I rename the partition names from Computer (nautilus) Hard disk (Krusader) ?
[08:07] <varunendra> krolow, which channels are you using in the router? (a/b/g/n)
[08:07] <POVaddct> DuncanNZ: and make sure the cli only system does NOT run network-manager. you cannot have wpa_supplicant running with config file while network-manager is also running a wpa_supplicant instance using the same wireless card.
[08:07] <DuncanNZ> yeah it’s BSD so might be different... but I’ll check soon
[08:08] <varunendra> krolow, you may try b/g only, it sometimes helps with authentication issues, but obviously you'll miss n-speeds. Still better than nothing.
[08:08] <krolow> varunendra: mixed (b/g), 2.457GHz
[08:08] <POVaddct> DuncanNZ: oh, if it's bsd i cannot help at all
[08:08] <DuncanNZ> POVaddct: OK I’ve tried that command and it doesn’t work, nevermind
[08:08] <m000gle> I know that the systray icon whitelist was deprecated in Ubuntu 13.04, but is there any way to bring this back? ... I am running a piece of software, using Wine 1.6, which requires a tray icon for full functionality.
[08:09] <DuncanNZ> It only sets it up with the defaults, not the extra options I thought I’d need.
[08:09] <POVaddct> DuncanNZ: "doesn’t work" says nothing
[08:09] <varunendra> krolow, perhaps we should look at the proprietary driver then. What was the error you were getting while compiling?
[08:10] <krolow> varunendra: strange that i have used this same adapter in raspberry pi, with a debian version(wheezy) and it works pretty well
[08:10] <krolow> varunendra: let me show you the error
[08:12] <cplx> hi guys - how would i add ' setpci -d 8086:2828 90.b=40 ' to /etc/grub.d/10_linux so it runs on boot?
[08:13] <krolow> varunendra: https://gist.github.com/krolow/07d9a3abfbbfc7fdfc07#file-error-txt
[08:19] <cplx> Ann0yeD: it's possible.... just difficult - been looking on google..............ba
[08:19] <cplx> need to add ' setpci -d 8086:2828 90.b=40 ' to /etc/grub.d/10_linux so it runs on boot...
[08:19] <varunendra> krolow, where did you download the driver from? It seems to be an older version (v2.6.6.0.20120405). I have it downloaded, and it is v3.4.4_4749.20121105
[08:20] <krolow> varunendra: what is the url that you download, maybe is that the reason that is not compiling here
[08:20] <krolow> varunendra: i get from some forums the url
[08:21] <varunendra> krolow, realtek's site has some funny way of browsing the driver, let me 'discover' the correct link again :P
[08:22] <krolow> varunendra: yeah, really a mess the site hehehe
[08:22] <krolow> varunendra: i must stop buy these dealextremes stuffs(china) hehehe, it's always a pain to find the things
[08:23] <varunendra> krolow, http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=21&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#2742
[08:24] <Jordan_U> cplx: Never edit anything in /etc/grub.d/.
[08:24] <varunendra> RTL8188CUS - Unix driver.
[08:24] <douglus> Hi guys need to tech support please .... i m looking to buy/build a new pc was wondering if i bought the amd A10 if i would have any trouble runninng youtube full screen ?
[08:24] <cplx> Jordan_U: where would I add that setpci line then......?
[08:24] <douglus> I heard amd has bad driver support ?
[08:25] <Johnny_Linux> dougl,  most have better experience with nvidia
[08:25] <Jordan_U> cplx: You can add that command to /boot/grub/custom.cfg (create the file if it doesn't alreay exist). Note however that poking at PCI registers is dangerous though, and I haven't checked that command for sanity.
[08:25] <douglus> ok thx
[08:25] <Johnny_Linux> np
[08:25] <douglus> jonny_linux amd cpu and nvidia gpu then ?
[08:26] <Johnny_Linux> ya, its what the doctor ordered
[08:26] <varunendra> Jordan_U, can't those type of things be added in /etc/default/grub then update-grub ?
[08:26] <douglus> is 4 gb of ram enough to get use web and watch movies ?
[08:26] <Jordan_U> douglus: AMD has better open source drivers for their GPUs (and actually works with the community), Nvidia has better proprietary drivers but explicitly refuses to help the community in any way (won't even provide the specifications for their hardware, so the nouveau developers need to reverse engineer everything).
[08:26] <Johnny_Linux> yep
[08:27] <cplx> Jordan_U: so add it to /boot/grub/custom.cfg the command as i?
[08:27] <Jordan_U> varunendra: No, this is not a kernel parameter, it's a grub command.
[08:27] <Jordan_U> cplx: Yes, add the command as-is.
[08:27] <DuncanNZ> Jordan_U: What about Intel? Because I just ordered a laptop with an Intel graphics card and Intel CPU
[08:28] <cplx> Jordan_U: after I have created custom.cfg do i need to do anything else?
[08:28] <Jordan_U> cplx: No.
[08:28] <douglus> Jordan i was told that amd does not actively support youtube  play back  is this true ?
[08:28] <Johnny_Linux> douglus,  i have an amd cpu asus w/ ati and it runs youtube just fine
[08:29] <douglus> no glitch vdieo play back  in linux ?
[08:29] <Johnny_Linux> none
[08:29] <Johnny_Linux> and its onboard
[08:29] <Johnny_Linux> hd3300
[08:29] <Jordan_U> DuncanNZ: Intel basically has the best driver support, completely open source with support entering the mainline kernel and Xorg before the hardware is released (with the exception of poulsbo chips, where they completely dropped the ball).
[08:30] <douglus> jonny_linux  think  your the only person i ve met who supports amd
[08:30] <douglus> ait
[08:30] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[08:30] <cplx> or just reboot
[08:30] <cplx> Jordan_U: ^
[08:30] <Johnny_Linux> i normally dont, i just put this machine tohether with old parts, its what i ended up with, i normally use nvidia
[08:30] <krolow> varunendra: i downloaded and tried to compile here got some errors too https://gist.github.com/krolow/07d9a3abfbbfc7fdfc07#file-error-2-txt
[08:31] <Jordan_U> cplx: Just reboot, but have a LiveCD/USB on hand in case that PCI command does terrible things.
[08:31] <douglus> jonny_linux i m thinking of getting amd A10 this is plenty of kick hopefully amd drivers are getting better ?
[08:32] <Johnny_Linux> not sure about the amd a10, never used it, maybe someone here has
[08:44] <duncan_> testing
[08:44] <DuncanNZ> testing
[08:44] <DuncanNZ> ok
[08:46] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[08:50]  * alcane installing on 160gb drive and looking for partitioning advice, please advise
[08:50]  * alcane is a home user
[08:52] <histo> !partition | alcane
[08:53] <DuncanNZ> General IRC question: does floodbot actually do anything other than give a message when people flood, and if not then why are there three of them?
[08:53] <histo> DuncanNZ: floodbot silences people afaik
[08:53] <alcane> ubottu: i know how to partition, i'm looking for what others think is the best scheme, as in, boot, swap, home or swap boot home or boot home swap....
[08:54]  * alcane knows how to partition... looking for opinions
[08:54] <histo> alcane: Notice the link from ubottu about partitioning schemes
[08:54] <histo> alcane: How much ram do you have?
[08:54] <alcane> histo: are you a bot?
[08:55] <DuncanNZ> lol...
[08:55] <histo> alcane: no
[08:57] <alcane> histo: awesome, 2gb
[09:01] <alcane> histo: advice?
[09:01] <bekks> alcane: 512M /boot, 2.1GB swap, 20G /, 4G /home and the rest for /data
[09:02] <andybrine> morning guys
[09:02] <OerHeks> bekks sounds like standard partitioning.
[09:02] <bekks> OerHeks: ack
[09:03] <andybrine> Just a quick question, im having problems getting virtualboz working on ubuntu 13.04
[09:03] <bekks> OerHeks: besides the fact that I do not recommending insane big /homes :)
[09:03] <alcane> bekks: data? most of my data will be in the home folder....
[09:03] <bekks> alcane: Which I do not recommend.
[09:04] <bekks> alcane: /home is for personal files, configs. data doesnt belong there :)
[09:04] <andybrine> it keeps saying i need to install DKMS package first
[09:04] <andybrine> this is already installed though
[09:04] <andybrine> has someone managed to get virtualbox working in ubuntu 13.04?
[09:05] <sanav> hello , i need a personal help .I want to sign up for free web hosting .My computer IP is blocked and need some assistence for sign up .I'll be very grateful for help .I'll gave you all details needed .I need free web host for SSH (project).That site don't provide online help .Thanks .I'm waiting for help .
[09:06] <OerHeks> sanav, this is ubuntu support, we cannot support free webhosting and banned ip.
[09:06] <alcane> bekks: so just a separate partition for extra stuff (movies, music, pictures, etc)
[09:06] <bekks> alcane: correct
[09:07] <alcane> bekks: awesome, thanks =)
[09:07] <OerHeks> !netsplit
[09:07] <sanav> OerHeks: i know that .I'm sorry for that but i don't know which IRC provide me that help .Can you tell me a suitable IRC ? thanks
[09:09] <sanav> !ot
[09:12] <AndrewEagle> Hello. In evince. How to change  scrolling through left mouse key instead of middle mouse key?
[09:12] <krolow> varunendra: finally i could get it working using https://code.google.com/p/realtek-8188cus-wireless-drivers-3444749-ubuntu-1304/
[09:13] <regexks_> why is there a server called morecock
[09:15] <OerHeks> regexks_, how is this related to ubuntu support?
[09:16] <DJones> regexks_: You probably should ask the people who run the freenode network
[09:17] <regexks_> oh i thought the people who run the freenode network might be ubuntu users
[09:17] <rymate1234> test
[09:18] <OerHeks> !test
[09:18] <DJones> OerHeks: It won't work, ubottu has just fallen off irc
[09:19] <OerHeks> i just noticed DJones, and she returned \o/
[09:25] <akaWolf> hello!
[09:25] <varun_> What just happened to the channel ?
[09:25] <akaWolf> I install Ubuntu 13.04 and got: "Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel."
[09:25] <akaWolf> can everyone help me?
[09:28] <douglus> guys how well does ubuntu work on 4gb of ram ?
[09:29] <varun_> douglus, fantastic, assuming rest of the hardware is well supported.
[09:30] <douglus> well not sure if i should buy 4or 8 gb of ram thinking of amd athalon 2 X4 750k with radeon hd6670
[09:31] <varunendra> douglus, quality is more important than quantity of RAM, if both are same brands, 8GB would obviously be better.
[09:32] <douglus> varunendra thanks
[09:32] <varunendra> welcome :)
[09:34] <akaWolf> "Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel."
[09:34] <akaWolf> can everyone help me?
[09:34] <akaWolf> Ubuntu 13.04
[09:35] <akaWolf> standart grub2
[09:35] <histo> !md5sum | akaWolf verify your iso and installation media using this
[09:36] <histo> regexks_: ask in #freenode or #help
[09:40] <Wellark_> akaWolf: whoa.. that's bad
[09:40] <Wellark_> akaWolf: are you able to load the older kernels?
[09:41] <elky> Sometimes when i wipe something off my trackpad, unity swaps between stuff and then the launcher bar refuses to hide afterwards. It's still showing as being set to autohide in ccsm. How can I get it to hide again?
[09:41] <andybrine> Can anyone help at all. Im trying to install virtualbox on my laptop and im having problems running it
[09:41] <Wellark_> andybrine: what's the problem?
[09:42] <andybrine> Wellark_ it keeps coming up with lease reinstall the kernel module by executing /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[09:42] <Wellark_> akaWolf: did you see that after a normal update or are you running a live cd/usb or did you install a custom kernel?
[09:43] <andybrine> when i run that is says the kernal cannot be found
[09:44] <Wellark_> andybrine: which ubuntu version? did you install virtualbox using apt-get (or software center) or  are you running with packages from virtualbox.org or a manual installation?
[09:45] <andybrine> i installed it from the ppa through synaptic manager
[09:45] <Wellark> andybrine: virtualbox.org ppa?
[09:45] <andybrine> yeah, it was this one deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian raring
[09:46] <Wellark> andybrine: ok, so your virtualbox stops working after kernel updates on the host machine and running /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup fixes it?
[09:47] <michoo_> hello there can i find here any help to make my wifi work
[09:47] <michoo_> ???
[09:47] <andybrine> I have run that comand and it returns "kernel 3.8.0-26-generic cannot be found"
[09:48] <varunendra> !details | michoo_
[09:48] <blazemore> andybrine: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:49] <michoo_> i have xubuntu 13.04 and wen i run lspci i cant find my wifi and i try lsusb same
[09:49] <Techman> !help
[09:49] <michoo_> i have pavilion tx200
[09:49] <Wellark> andybrine: yes, make sure you have linux-headers and dkms installed
[09:49] <Techman> !patience
[09:50] <Techman> Hmm
[09:50] <Techman> Cute bot
[09:50] <blazemore> !ot | Techman that's not all it can do
[09:50] <Techman> Ok okay that's ot I get it
[09:51] <Wellark> andybrine: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic dkms
[09:51] <andybrine> it says they are the newest version
[09:51] <varunendra> michoo_, is it an internal wifi card? Can you give us the pastebin links of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net" and "lsusb" ?
[09:52] <andybrine> is it worth uninstalling and then reinstalling?
[09:53] <bekks> andybrine: Whats the output of uname -a ?
[09:53] <bekks> andybrine: And no. This is not windows. So it is pointless to uninstall and reinstall.
[09:53] <Sarger001> Ubuntu 13.10 is being kinda sluggish, I'm getting kinda worried about the speed of the final release.
[09:54] <utfans05> uname
[09:54] <andybrine> uname
[09:54] <bekks> andybrine: No. "uname -a"
[09:54] <andybrine> Linux andybrine-K54C 3.8.0-26-generic #38-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 17 21:43:33 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:55] <cfhowlett> Sarger001, it's currently at Alpha 1 release .. what'd you expect?
[09:55] <andybrine> yeah i was put it in the wrong box for a sec
[09:55] <cfhowlett> !saucy|Sarger001,
[09:55] <Sarger001> Okey
[09:56] <xormor> Linux laptoppi-HP-G62-Notebook-PC 3.8.0-26-generic #38-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 17 21:46:08 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
[09:56] <michoo_> yes its internal   oot@michoo:/home/michoo# lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net
[09:56] <michoo_> 00:14.0 Bridge [0680]: NVIDIA Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller [10de:0269] (rev a3)
[09:56] <michoo_> 	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:30e5]
[09:56] <michoo_> 	Kernel driver in use: forcedeth
[09:56] <sh_ahmed> Hey guys,
[09:57] <sh_ahmed> Everytime I boot up, I'm shown this error message, don't know its meaning though
[09:57] <sh_ahmed> [11099.256048] usb 5-2: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[09:57] <sh_ahmed> [11099.480042] usb 5-2: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[09:57] <sh_ahmed> [11099.696041] usb 5-2: new full-speed USB device number 24 using uhci_hcd
[09:57] <sh_ahmed> [11099.816069] usb 5-2: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[09:57] <sh_ahmed> [11100.040039] usb 5-2: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[09:57] <sh_ahmed> [11100.256043] usb 5-2: new full-speed USB device number 25 using uhci_hcd
[09:57] <sh_ahmed> [11100.664051] usb 5-2: device not accepting address 25, error -71
[09:57] <sh_ahmed> [11100.776050] usb 5-2: new full-speed USB device number 26 using uhci_hcd
[09:57] <sh_ahmed> [11101.184050] usb 5-2: device not accepting address 26, error -71
[09:57] <varunendra> !pastebin
[09:57] <sh_ahmed> sorry
[09:57] <cfhowlett> sh_ahmed, dude!  learn how to paste, please!
[09:57] <sh_ahmed> I'm quite new to this, sorry
[09:57] <michoo_> root@michoo:/home/michoo# lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net
[09:57] <michoo_> 00:14.0 Bridge [0680]: NVIDIA Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller [10de:0269] (rev a3)
[09:57] <michoo_> 	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:30e5]
[09:57] <michoo_> 	Kernel driver in use: forcedeth
[09:57] <michoo_> root@michoo:/home/michoo# lsusb
[09:57] <michoo_> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04b4:6560 Cypress Semiconductor Corp. CY7C65640 USB-2.0 "TetraHub"
[09:57] <michoo_> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 03f0:171d Hewlett-Packard Bluetooth 2.0 Interface [Broadcom BCM2045]
[09:57] <michoo_> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[09:57] <michoo_> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[09:57] <michoo_> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 064e:a110 Suyin Corp. HP Webcam
[09:57] <bekks> michoo_: Use a pastebin!
[09:57] <michoo_> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 08ff:1600 AuthenTec, Inc. AES1600
[09:57] <varunendra> !pastebin | michoo_
[09:57] <michoo_> Bus 001 Device 006: ID 056a:0093 Wacom Co., Ltd TPC93
[09:58] <michoo_> what is pastebin
[09:58] <andybrine> whats strange is that I have never had a problem with virtualbox for ubuntu and now its not working at all
[09:58] <bekks> andybrine: Which vbox version do you have?
[09:58] <michoo_> !pastebin | michoo_
[09:58] <sh_ahmed> http://pastebin.com/0UGrrvDN
[09:58] <Techman> I was about say
[09:58] <Tm_T> michoo_: a service where you can paste large amounts of text without flooding channels the way you just did
[09:58] <Techman> I think there was a !pastebin command
[09:59] <Tm_T> Techman: it was triggered earlier already
[09:59] <Tm_T> !pastbinit | michoo_
[09:59] <Tm_T> !pastebinit | michoo_
[09:59] <andybrine> I have the latest vbox 4.2
[09:59] <sh_ahmed> Any idea about that guys?
[09:59] <bekks> andybrine: From virtualbox.org?
[09:59] <andybrine> yeah
[10:00] <JohnathonDoe> !pastebin | JohnathonDoe
[10:01] <zheka> hi here guyz
[10:01] <zheka> i have an trouble with wubi installer
[10:02] <CRC43> where are the ~/Music ~/Videos  ..etc... icons stored?
[10:03] <zheka> hello anyone here can help me?
[10:04] <michoo_> http://pastebin.com/qaQZgQiL
[10:04] <sh_ahmed> ubottu, please pm me how to use the command !pastebin (if there is such a command)
[10:04] <michoo_> sh_ahmed pastebin.com its a website
[10:05] <xcalibur> HI, can somebody tell me how to completly reinstall apache (inculding the /etc/apache direcotry)?
[10:05] <Wellark> andybrine: what does "$ sudo dkms status" tell you?
[10:05] <sh_ahmed> michoo_, I know, I thought there must be some commad
[10:05] <sh_ahmed> michoo_, command
[10:06] <akaWolf> Wellark: I install Ubuntu 13.04 from live-USB
[10:06] <andybrine> sudo dkms status
[10:06] <andybrine> vboxhost, 4.2.16: added
[10:06] <andybrine> virtualbox-guest, 4.2.10, 3.8.0-19-generic, x86_64: installed
[10:06] <akaWolf> Wellark: and I've got this error..
[10:06] <zheka> guyz i cant start wubi
[10:06] <sh_ahmed> !pastebin | sh_ahmed
[10:06] <akaWolf> Wellark: after restart
[10:06] <akaWolf> ubottu: md5 ok
[10:06] <bekks> andybrine: Those guest additions will not work. Install the "official" ones, as shipped with vbox.
[10:07] <michoo_> sh_ahmed no such command just open pastbin.com and past your result there
[10:07] <sh_ahmed> michoo_: okay,
[10:07] <akaWolf> histo: with md5 checksum all Ok
[10:07] <sh_ahmed> thanks
[10:07] <CRC43> Hello, Where are the Music/Videos/ ...etc , icons stored?
[10:08] <zheka> guyz help me start wubi
[10:08] <varunendra> michoo_, was that all the output? There is no wireless adapter in those outputs. Are you sure you have one?
[10:08] <Wellark> andybrine: try runnin: sudo dkms autoinstall
[10:08] <sh_ahmed> PART #ubuntu "Going for fishing"
[10:08] <akaWolf> I try to chroot to my partition with Ubuntu from Live -- work
[10:09] <andybrine> it keeps saying your kernal headers cannot be found
[10:09] <michoo_> yes im sure and its on from the bios and from the switch
[10:09] <Wellark> andybrine: and remove any -guest packages you have installed on your host
[10:09] <Wellark> your host machine running virtualbox does not need the guest drivers
[10:09] <akaWolf> and I try type init=/bin/bash -- doesn't work
[10:10] <akaWolf> Wellark: can you help me?
[10:10] <Wellark> akaWolf: sorry, I can't help you :(
[10:10] <akaWolf> Wellark: ok, thanks
[10:10] <Wellark> akaWolf: seems that something has gone horribly wrong with the installation
[10:11] <Wellark> akaWolf: I would only suggest to try to reinstall
[10:11] <andybrine> ok im just removing all the guest packages now
[10:11] <iceroot> akaWolf: sudo chroot /path/to/mounted/slash-directory(   should work
[10:11] <Wellark> akaWolf: also, I would run memcheck just to be sure
[10:11] <akaWolf> iceroot: it's work
[10:11] <akaWolf> Wellark: memory ok )
[10:12] <andybrine> its still unable to locate the kernal packages
[10:12] <Wellark> andybrine: can you give the full output of the dkms message (if it's more than 2 lines, please use pastebin)
[10:12] <akaWolf> if i true understand, the kernel can not read /sbin/init and execute it
[10:13] <zheka> hi guyz
[10:13] <akaWolf> can everyone help me?
[10:13] <holy_rain> Hi all, in 13.04, I have a strange problem, my kernel panics after disconnecting bluetooth DUN connection
[10:13] <zheka> i need some help too? wubi not starting
[10:13] <andybrine> here is the pastebin http://pastebin.com/WJ1eUHfu
[10:14] <akaWolf> m?
[10:14] <holy_rain> A quick search reveals that the bug is already reported.
[10:15] <Wellark> andybrine: could you paste "ls -1 /boot/" also to pastebin?
[10:15] <zheka> hello anyone can help me then?
[10:16] <Okitain> holy_rain: Confirm it still. It helps prioritizing the bug among others.
[10:16] <andybrine> here is the pastbin for the previosu command http://pastebin.com/tfthGDVj
[10:16] <holy_rain> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1165433
[10:18] <kelly> hi guys
[10:18] <kelly> how can i change username in ubuntu ?
[10:19] <andybrine> thanks for all your help guys
[10:19] <andybrine> i may just have to give upo
[10:20] <andybrine> its soo frustrating and im going to try vmware if i can find a good download for that
[10:21] <Wellark> andybrine: what does apt-cache show linux-headers-generic tell you+
[10:21] <andybrine> sudo apt-cache
[10:21] <Wellark> andybrine: just this one thing :)
[10:21] <andybrine> cheers
[10:22] <andybrine> what do i need to run to get this output?
[10:22] <Wellark> $ apt-cache show linux-headers-generic
[10:22] <zheka> hi guyz
[10:23] <zheka> who can help me with wubi installer
[10:24] <andybrine> Here is the output http://pastebin.com/9EgqMzbQ
[10:24] <vnc786> i am on ubuntu 12.04 64 bit i have second hdd attach as /dev/sdb2 in which i deleted by mistakenly a folder of 1.2 gb  i have install scalpel but in conf file i am not able to find settings related to folder
[10:24] <k1l> zheka: wubi is hard to support most suggest a real install. but if you give more details people can have a look
[10:24] <Wellark> andybrine: ok, this is weird
[10:24] <Wellark> andybrine: it says Depends: linux-headers-3.8.0-19-generic
[10:25] <Wellark> and you are running -26
[10:25] <andybrine> yeah
[10:25] <Wellark> andybrine: seems something is out of sync
[10:25] <andybrine> very strange
[10:25] <Wellark> but that also explains why the dkms build fails
[10:25] <andybrine> i have a sandybridge processor
[10:25] <andybrine> apparently this causes some issues
[10:25] <k1l> zheka: no support via pm. keep it in this channel here
[10:26] <Wellark> andybrine: how about: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[10:26] <andybrine> though i wouldnt of thought it would at all tbh
[10:26] <andybrine> nothing to upgrade or install there
[10:26] <andybrine> lol
[10:26] <Wellark> andybrine: ok, try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[10:27] <zheka> checked logs at %temp% wubi won`t lookup prev donwloaded iso
[10:27] <andybrine> still nothing
[10:28] <andybrine>  do you know where i can download a good copy of vmware
[10:28] <andybrine> or is that likely to cause the same issue?
[10:28] <ampelbein_> andybrine: What is the output of "apt-cache policy linux-generic"?
[10:29] <vnc786> please advise me what option should i opt to recover data Testdisk(which says: to recover partition ) or scalpel
[10:29] <kingbeast> is this anti-bot message going to pop up every time I join now?
[10:29] <vnc786> i have just deleted a folder in my secondary hard drive ....
[10:29] <Wellark> andybrine, ampelbein_: hmm.. seems that raring-updates does not include linux-headers-generic
[10:30] <andybrine> here is the pastebin http://pastebin.com/80Z9brVV
[10:30] <quibquob> recently installed drivers for my HD 7750, now my screen has a "AMD testing use only" icon in the bottom right of the screen which never goes away, and there's also now a black border an inch or two wide around the screen.
[10:35] <andybrine> damn this is frustrating, without that right headers im still unable to install vmware
[10:36] <ampelbein_> andybrine: that's weird. Do you have raring-updates enabled? What does "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" say?
[10:36] <cfhowlett> quibquob, I'd say your drivers are suspect ...
[10:37] <andybrine> Here is thge output if that helps
[10:37] <andybrine> http://pastebin.com/QKxbjg87
[10:38] <bekks> andybrine: Whats the entire output of sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; dpkg -l | grep linux-image; dpkg -l | grep header
[10:40] <varunendra> bekks, slightly better - dpkg -l | egrep 'linux-image|header'
[10:40] <bekks> varunendra: Yeah :)
[10:40] <elky> my unity launcher is set to autohide but it seems to have got stuck unhidden. how can i make it autohide again? it's covering stuff up :(
[10:41] <Ampelbein> andybrine: You have the latest kernel from -updates installed, but apt seems to not consider the -updates pocket for upgrades.
[10:41] <akaWolf> hm (
[10:41] <akaWolf> I reinstall ubuntu
[10:42] <akaWolf> and I've got "Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel."
[10:42] <Ampelbein> andybrine: "apt-cache policy linux-image-generic" - can you post the output of that command?
[10:42] <andybrine> Here is the full output bekks http://pastebin.com/t7AR26sN
[10:43] <bekks> andybrine: You do not have the matching headers for your running kernel installed.
[10:43] <bekks> andybrine: Which command did you use to try to install them?
[10:44] <andybrine> im not sure to be honest
[10:44] <Wellark> bekks: I instructed him to simply install linux-headers-generic
[10:44] <Ampelbein> bekks: linux-image-generic and linux-headers-generic are built from the same source package (linux-meta), yet they show in different versions in that output.
[10:44] <Wellark> but for some reason linux-headers-generic is not coming from raring-updates
[10:45] <Ampelbein> andybrine: And from the apt-get update output it is clear that -updates is not enabled.
[10:45] <Wellark> Ampelbein: indeed. and nor is security
[10:46] <Wellark> andybrine: have you modified your /etc/apt/sources.list manually? you seem to be missing vital default repositories f
[10:46] <varunendra> andybrine, what does "apt-cache show linux-headers-generic | grep -i version" show ?
[10:46] <andybrine> apologies the updates were off for some reason
[10:46] <andybrine> lol
[10:46] <Ampelbein> andybrine: yeah, and that is your problem right there ;-)
[10:46] <andybrine> lol let me update again
[10:46] <Ampelbein> andybrine: since you installed the kernel package from updates, then disabled updates.
[10:47] <andybrine> think i switched that odd a while ago not putting them back on
[10:47] <Ampelbein> So the header package is in wrong version. When you enable updates and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade you will have the correct headers.
[10:48] <andybrine> ok, updates are installing
[10:48] <andybrine> lol
[10:48] <PaintBucket> closed the wrong one..
[10:48] <andybrine> this will work perfectly shrotly im sure
[10:48] <andybrine> thats for all your help everyone
[10:48] <Wellark> andybrine: np. :)
[10:49] <Wellark> I just hope you get your virtualbox running again
[10:49] <aashu_dwivedi> i am trying to install webcamstudio but my software center keeps crashing
[10:49] <aashu_dwivedi> what should i do ?
[10:49] <andybrine> same here :)
[10:49] <TheeMahn> I wrote software Friday that is going to destroy Microslop, I am thinking take down Ubuntu as well.  I have been looking into not copywriting it, but patenting it.  How would you feel if I yanked a rug out from beneath you cozy feet?
[10:50] <andybrine> i only need to install one software package on windows
[10:50] <andybrine> lol
[10:50] <Ampelbein> TheeMahn: What?
[10:50] <aashu_dwivedi> webcamstudio site has listed the link https://launchpad.net/~webcamstudio/+archive/webcamstudio-stable as ppa
[10:50] <TheeMahn> http://repostorm.com/
[10:50] <aashu_dwivedi> but i am not sure how to add this ppa
[10:50] <Ampelbein> andybrine: If your system wouldn't have been misconfigured by the systems administrator, it would have been only one package in ubuntu as well.
[10:51] <andybrine> yeah
[10:51] <andybrine> im the only one using this machine and so that was all me that did that
[10:51] <andybrine> lol
[10:51] <varunendra> elky, did you solve your unity launcher issue?
[10:51] <Matthew_Moore> Need some help with Ubuntu 13.04.  i tried to Install Team veiwer and when i try to open it i get an error.  " can't verify proram version " never had a problem with team veiwer before. got any ideas?
[10:51] <elky> varunendra: it seems to have righted itself :-/
[10:52] <TheeMahn> click on the blue link and download the pdf and begin to say how
[10:52] <varunendra> :P
[10:52] <elky> TheeMahn: stop spamming
[10:52] <TheeMahn> First of all I am not a spammer
[10:52] <elky> Yes, yes you are.
[10:53] <TheeMahn> I am a operating system architect & leading programmer of Ultimate Edition Linux
[10:53] <varunendra> elky, Sometimes I have to reset the Unity profile to default using ccsm to fix such issues. But I have exported the current profile to a file to load again.
[10:54] <Wellark> TheeMahn: so what is your problem with ubuntu you need help with?
[10:54] <TheeMahn> I need no help,
[10:54] <kingbeast> TheeMahn, then why are you in here?
[10:54] <elky> varunendra: i did unity --reset but as i hit enter i noticed that it was fixed. maybe the alt key to bring up the run command thingy unstuck it
[10:54] <TheeMahn> My software fixes every problem you have
[10:54] <Wellark> TheeMahn: then please stop pasting links that are not relevant to a problem with ubuntu.
[10:55] <Wellark> TheeMahn: see /topic.
[10:55] <varunendra> elky, lol..!
[10:55] <djatakk> That floodbot thing is weird...
[10:56] <PaintBucket> It's kinda nice.
[10:56] <PaintBucket> I -hate- spam.
[10:56] <James0r> is this chan for Ubuntu chat or help or both?
[10:56] <kingbeast> James0r, help
[10:57] <MonkeyDust> was my password visible to the channel?
[10:57] <elky> James0r: help. chat about ubuntu is in #ubuntu-discuss, completely offtopic stuff is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:57] <kingbeast> MonkeyDust, no
[10:57] <James0r> kingbeast, thx. Can anyone help me add a printer in Lubuntu 13.04?
[10:57] <PaintBucket> I'm just kind of hanging out, learning.
[10:58] <kingbeast> James0r, we can try, let's start out with a brand model number for the printer
[10:58] <James0r> kingbeast: oh it's actually not a physical printer. I just installed the cups-pdf package and i'm trying to set it up
[10:59] <andybrine> i have just run vboxdrv setup again and it stil cannot find headers
[10:59] <andybrine> damn it
[10:59] <kingbeast> James0r, might be someone else in here that can help you with that, I have zero experience on that
[11:00] <James0r> kingbeast: trying to follow an Ubuntu tutorial but it's not matching up with my Lubuntu release
[11:00] <James0r> kingbeast: k cool. i'll hang out
[11:00] <clemdu57> Hi !
[11:01] <clemdu57> I'm new on ubuntu, i want leave windows do you can help me ?
[11:01] <k1l> !details | clemdu57
[11:01] <clemdu57> (i'm french, so exuse my language)
[11:01] <Mathisen> James0r, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188860
[11:02] <Wellark> andybrine: please provide the full output of sudo apt-get update
[11:02] <James0r> Mathisen: thx. I'm looking at that right now though, not really matching up with what i'm seeing in Lubuntu
[11:02] <Wellark> andybrine: some of your packages might be out of sync
[11:02] <clemdu57> I'm living in Italy, and where I live, this is no ADSL.
[11:02] <Wellark> andybrine: as you had disabled the -updates
[11:02] <clemdu57> I use a 3G Key
[11:02] <James0r> under my 'Printing' settings it is looking for network printers it looks like
[11:02] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[11:02] <clemdu57> Do it's compatible with ubuntu 13.04 ??
[11:03] <James0r> scratch that i think i found it
[11:03] <James0r> thx y'all
[11:03] <Wellark> andybrine: and after apt-get update, please provide output of "apt-cache show linux-headers-generic"
[11:03] <clemdu57> please
[11:03] <andybrine> all of the updates have worked now
[11:03] <kingbeast> James0r, hope it works for you
[11:03] <clemdu57> do the WIND 3G Key is compatible ?
[11:03] <k1l> clemdu57: we have a frensh and italian support, too.
[11:04] <bekks> andybrine: Now check the version of the install linuex headers again.
[11:04] <clemdu57> where ?
[11:04] <auronandace> !fr | clemdu57
[11:04] <kingbeast> clemdu57, #ubuntu-fr
[11:05] <arunpyasi> hi guys i am having a problem with software-properties-gtk
[11:05] <andybrine> here is the output from apt-get cache http://pastebin.com/39kuBg7b
[11:08] <Wellark> andybrine: what does $ sudo dkms status say?
[11:08] <andybrine> yeah, im just updating them now
[11:08] <arunpyasi> guys i am building my own distro, but the software-properties-gtk doesn't work
[11:08] <bekks> andybrine: Whats the output of "sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup"?
[11:09] <andybrine> just a moment, im just installing the updates
[11:10] <auronandace> arunpyasi: if you are not running ubuntu we can't help you, we only support ubuntu here, perhaps ##linux can help you with your own distro
[11:10] <andybrine> virtualbox setup worked!!
[11:10] <andybrine> lol
[11:10] <andybrine> brilliant
[11:10] <Wellark> andybrine: great
[11:11] <Wellark> andybrine: in the future, please, don't disable -updates
[11:11] <Wellark> you will get in to trouble ;)
[11:11] <andybrine> lol, i wont. I think i did that when i had a few previous issues
[11:11] <arunpyasi> man i need the help from ubuntu
[11:11] <andybrine> thanks for all your help
[11:11] <andybrine> it was awesome
[11:12] <arunpyasi> auronandace: i am using ubuntu
[11:12] <andybrine> it took some time but well worth it
[11:14] <PaintBucket> hmm
[11:14] <PaintBucket> turns out i do have a problem
[11:14] <PaintBucket> Audio and video are skipping again. I just did a fresh install of 13.04 and updated.
[11:15] <PaintBucket> I had this problem the first time around with 13.04 but, I thought an update fixed it as it went away.
[11:15] <PaintBucket> of course, I ripped out pulseaudio and found out it's not the culprit last time and ended up reinstalling it.
[11:16] <meet> how can I share files between two ubuntu computers. I installed samba on both and tried sharing from the right click menu. The folder does show up in the other computer but I am able to access folders within that folder. I get access denied message. How to share the whole folder along wtih subfolders?
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> meet  do you want a GUI or in in the terminal? if you want a GUI, there's gigolo
[11:18] <meet> MonkeyDust, I would prefer gui. Should i install gigolo?
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> meet  yes, it's basic, but try it
[11:19] <PaintBucket> any ideas on what could be causing this skipping with audio. It happens with youtube and rhythmbox
[11:20] <OerHeks> PaintBucket, sounds like you have not installed restricted extra's for codecs, tools, webplugins and fonts
[11:21] <PaintBucket> hmm, I thought I did. It doesn't skip nonstop. It's just every few moment's it'll skip like a scratched cd.
[11:23] <PaintBucket> i guess I hadn't. Thanks, installing it now.
[11:24] <quibquob> guys how can i put  ubuntu onto a usb?\
[11:25] <mathfreak> quibquob: I use the Startup Disk Creator
[11:26] <meet> MonkeyDust, I tried the ssh thing. I have thunar on one of the machines. I could not find a connect to server option in there. So installed nautilus. But is there any way I can setup a shortcut so that i can acces it in one click.
[11:27] <meet> sorry i was not clear. How do I setup a shortcut for the network machine, instead of putting in the ip address, port number and username and passwd everytime.
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> meet  if you want a ssh connection, use a rsa-key
[11:29] <blazemore> meet: If it's just between two Ubuntu machines you should probably use Nautilus - Yes you can access it in one click from Nautilus's "Connect to Server" if you tick the checkbox saying "Add as bookmark" or similar
[11:29] <varunendra> !usb | ripplebit
[11:29] <michoo_> hello there
[11:29] <blazemore> meet: Should probably use ssh* rather
[11:29] <michoo_> pls can any one help me with my wifi
[11:30] <blazemore> michoo_: No. YOu were in here yesterday asking the same thing, people helped you and you just ignored them
[11:30] <varunendra> michoo_, the BIOS reset didn't help?
[11:31] <topsy> Hello! I need help. I have Win 7 laptop, which i turned into a dual-boot machine with Ubuntu 12.04. After that, I shrank my C-drive from within Windows and createda new partition with thespace freed up. Then when I tried to restart, booting failed. I kept getting a black terminal screen with two lines: 'error: unknown filesystem' and 'grub rescue'. Please help!!
[11:32] <meet> blazemore, ya I have two ubuntu machines. Maybe I missed the bookmark option.
[11:32] <michoo_> varunendra: no
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> meet  http://lani78.wordpress.com/2012/07/21/generate-a-ssh-key-and-disable-password-authentication-on-ubuntu-server-12-0/
[11:32] <PaintBucket> Okay, now to play something else
[11:34] <varunendra> michoo_, if neither lspci nor lsusb show your wifi adapter, then it may be a hardware problem. If you are dualbooting with windows, check if it is working there. Else, check physical connection of your card.
[11:34] <PaintBucket> Nope, that wasn't it unfortunately.
[11:34] <PaintBucket> still skips
[11:35] <michoo_> varunendra, i have dual booting and its work in win8
[11:36] <asoka_> i have dual booting too, and its work
[11:37] <varunendra> michoo_, then I have no further ideas. Maybe try 'Restart' instead of shutdown in win8 while the card is active, then boot into ubuntu and see if the card is recognised. I can't think why it won't show up though.
[11:37] <OerHeks> michoo_, win8 and fastboot causes lots of issues
[11:37] <asoka_> try to disable fastboot
[11:38] <meet> blazemore, there is option to bookmark it.
[11:38] <blazemore> typical, meet ... there used to be. Ubuntu seems to be experiencing the opposite of feature-creep :P I'm not on Ubuntu currently but hopefully someone else can help you get that functionality back
[11:39] <PaintBucket> Do I need a reboot after installing the restricted files?
[11:39] <meet> what is it called anyway? symbolic link?
[11:39] <michoo_> i did and i make a fresh installation  of ubuntu from live cd and now there is no dual booting there only xubuntu 13.04
[11:39] <meet> blazemore, what is it called anyway? symbolic link?
[11:40] <henrikc> Hi guys! Having some issues with my server, can't get the network working. I receive an IP address, but I can't reach the outside internet. It's not behind any firewalls nor routers, and the cable is OK - it worked perfectly with another computer.
[11:40] <michoo_> and i try ubuntu 12.04 from live cd without installation its work the problem with xubuntu13.04
[11:41] <OerHeks> henrikc, might be your provider, who registered your MAC adress from your network device, try to reset that, contact your provider for the howto
[11:42] <henrikc> I've tried using both DHCP and static IP, but to no avail - I simply can't get it to reach the outside internet. I do, however, receive an IP address. After manually changing the MAC address, I received another IP address, but that didn't help either.
[11:42] <OerHeks> henrikc, or clone the MAC from the computer that works.
[11:44] <varunendra> michoo_, boot with 12.04 live cd then, and give us the pastebin link to the outputs of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net" and "lsusb"
[11:44] <michoo_> okk
[11:47] <henrikc> OerHeks: Thanks! I changed my MAC address again, to one I know works - still having the same issues. I receive an IP address, I'm able to ping it from the outside, but whenever I try to go from the server to the internet, it fails. Can't SSH in either, even though sshd is running.
[11:49] <Ampelbein> henrikc: Can you pastebin the output of "ifconfig"?
[11:49] <OerHeks> henrikc, you said you have no router, so how many machines and what way do you connect them??
[11:49] <thejollygrimreap> how do you reset a serial port in crunchbang ?
[11:50] <akaWolf> hello! can everyone help me? I've install Ubuntu 13.04 and got error: "Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel."
[11:50] <PaintBucket> any other ideas what could be causing this skipping/stuttering?
[11:50] <OerHeks> thejollygrimreap, ask in the crunchbang irc channel?
[11:50] <thejollygrimreap> didn't know there was one ...
[11:51] <henrikc> Ampelbein: Sure! http://pastie.org/8158414 - did manage to SSH in, for some reason. Not sure why it finally orked.
[11:51] <varunendra> !crunchbang | thejollygrimreap
[11:51] <henrikc> OerHeks: I have a switch directly connected to the outlet, and then the server, a router and IP telephone are all connected to the switch
[11:51] <akaWolf> I can not resolve my problem
[11:51] <thejollygrimreap> thankx
[11:51] <henrikc> Right now I'm writing on my Mac, connected to the wireless router, so my connection is fine!
[11:52] <Ampelbein> henrikc: That looks good. If you can ssh into the machine, you should be able to connect from it to the outside world.
[11:52] <akaWolf> please, can everyone help me?
[11:53] <Ampelbein> henrikc: Does "ping 4.2.2.2" work? How about "ping b.resolvers.Level3.net"?
[11:53] <henrikc> Ampelbein: Yeah, that's what I figured. Might be something messed up in the config files, can't SSH out of it to another server again.
[11:54] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:54] <PaintBucket> hi blues
[11:54] <blazemore> akaWolf: Did you check the integrity of the disk image before you installed? That sounds like either a bad download, or a bad disk burn to me
[11:54] <igw3> any nmao ninja's here
[11:55] <blazemore> ask the real question, igw3
[11:55] <igw3> trying to do a scan for a very big host...how do i go abt it as it is too big...
[11:55] <Ampelbein> henrikc: What error do you get when trying to ssh? Just a regular timeout?
[11:55] <henrikc> Ampelbein: No luck pinging - 100% packet loss to 4.2.2.2, no response on b3 either.
[11:55] <akaWolf> blazemore: I check my download ISO -- it's ok
[11:56] <blazemore> igw3: nmap?
[11:56] <igw3> yea
[11:56] <blazemore> igw3: What do you mean by a "big" host?
[11:56] <igw3> long host range like 4000 hosts...
[11:56] <igw3> kidda overwh3mling
[11:56] <blazemore> igw3: YOu just have to wait for it to finish...
[11:56] <Dalek-Caan> blazemore, nimdAHK_ , Hey! I am here again, still the same problem though :(
[11:57] <Dalek-Caan> Still unable to mount one of my harddisks and I get this error; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5893808/
[11:57] <akaWolf> blazemore: and I check "burn" to the flash -- after boot from this drive, Ubuntu offer similar check
[11:57] <henrikc> Ampelbein: Resolving failure. ssh: Could not resolve hostname badne6.ux.uis.no: Temporary failure in name resolution
[11:57] <igw3> blazemore: alrite thank was wondering if there was something to make it faster i guess i have to put on ma patience cap :)
[11:58] <blazemore> Dalek-Caan: Have you tried chkdsk on that drive from Windows?
[11:58] <Dalek-Caan> I can not seem to get chkdsk to work, blazemore , Windows sees the drive as a RAW station that has to be formatted now :(
[11:58] <blazemore> igw3: http://www.professormesser.com/nmap/how-to-supercharge-your-nmap-scans might be of interest to you
[11:58] <Ampelbein> henrikc: ok. the earlier try with "4.2.2.2" should have worked, unless your network doesn't route icmp packages. (unlikely) So it isn't a name server problem.
[11:58] <Ampelbein> henrikc: just to make sure: From the mac you can "ping 4.2.2.2"?
[11:58] <blazemore> Dalek-Caan: That sounds pretty broken to be quite honest. Sure it wasn't set up as part of a RAID array?
[11:58] <akaWolf> blazemore: I try to reinstall Ubuntu, but this not help to me
[11:59] <blazemore> akaWolf: Before you install, there's an option on the CD's boot menu to check the integrity of the installation medium, did you try that?
[11:59] <igw3> thanks, blazemore
[11:59] <akaWolf> blazemore: yes
[11:59] <henrikc> Yup Ampelbein, no issues at all pinging from the Mac. I tried SSH-ing to my VPS, using it's IP address. That gives me a timeout. Works fine from the Mac.
[11:59] <Dalek-Caan> No, I am 100% sure. Is there a way to check some logs of Ubuntu and see if there are any hardware related errors? Sometimes at start up it will show me a real quick error flow before this PC boots, blazemore
[12:00] <Dalek-Caan> *start-up
[12:00] <blazemore> Dalek-Caan: There's data on that disk which doesn't exist anywhere else?
[12:00] <Dalek-Caan> That is correct, I'm afraid.
[12:01] <Ampelbein> henrikc: What does "route -n" say? Maybe ifup doesn't set the routes correctly.
[12:01] <blazemore> SO before I recommend testdisk, just to clarify Dalek-Caan as far as you know it is just a normal NTFS partition which used to work?
[12:01] <henrikc> Ampelbein: http://pastie.org/8158438
[12:01] <Dalek-Caan> Yes, it has always been a NTFS, non-raided disk.
[12:04] <blazemore> Dalek-Caan: YOu should lo into using a prgram called TestDisk to recover the NTFS MFT
[12:05] <Ampelbein> henrikc: That looks ok as well. I'm out of ideas, to be honest. Do you have any kind of firewall installed on that server? (sudo iptables -L should have 3x ACCEPT)
[12:05] <akaWolf> blazemore: can you help me?
[12:05] <Dalek-Caan> Okay, this is  a program that I can freely download, I suppose, blazemore ?
[12:06] <henrikc> Ampelbein: has ACCEPT on both INPUT, FORWARD and OUTPUT.
[12:06] <henrikc> Thanks for your help though! I really appreciate it.
[12:06] <henrikc> I might just have to reinstall the whole thing, might be easier. :p
[12:06] <Dalek-Caan> Okay, I am installing it now, blazemore
[12:06] <hxr> how can I set up an account to autologin via gui from ssh
[12:07] <Ampelbein> henrikc: You could try that, yes. Sorry I couldn't be of more help, good luck with a reinstall ;-)
[12:09] <hxr> the reason is I have 30 users on this machine, with xubuntu  gui the list is to long to select a real user
[12:09] <ruan_> ol
[12:12] <PaintBucket> I can't figure this out at all.
[12:15] <OerHeks> hxr this howto might be any help >>> http://superuser.com/questions/356316/how-do-i-disable-the-login-screen-on-xfce
[12:15] <OerHeks> edit lightdm config
[12:15] <Dalek-Caan> blazemore; I selected the harddisk in the terminal and now it asks me what partition table it is, should I put in Intel, or None?
[12:16] <Dalek-Caan> I used the command "testdisk" btw
[12:16] <Dalek-Caan> Or am I doing it all wrong now?
[12:17] <henrikc> Ampelbein: Must have been some hidden iptables rule giving me trouble, because I removed iptables, rebooted, and now it works like a charm again.
[12:17] <Ampelbein> henrikc: Nice.
[12:17] <OerHeks> Dalek-Caan, choose the default, intel in your case, see the step-by-step >> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[12:19] <hxr> OerHeks⚡ ok trying that, I saw a few like this on google, but they all said use something else, i know its posible
[12:19] <Dalek-Caan> Dank you, OerHeks  ;)
[12:22] <Dalek-Caan> Now running "Analyse cylinder 512/60801".. zZz, this might take a while I suppose :p
[12:24] <Dalek-Caan> In the meanwhile I have another question for everyone here, can anyone recommend me a good way to keep an eye on the temperatures of my Hardware and maybe change fan speeds accordingly? I remember using Speedfan under Windows..
[12:24] <OerHeks> !lmsensors
[12:25] <Dalek-Caan> Also, do I need to install the drivers for my graphics card, just like under Windows? and can I use MSI's Afterburner for the gpu fan? because it is on standard now, which will probably not change the fans speed at all.
[12:26] <Dalek-Caan> Thanks OerHeks !
[12:27] <OerHeks> Dalek-Caan, there are also tons of conky scripts > howto > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=867076 and examples >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865
[12:28] <OerHeks> videodrivers, open softwarecenter > top panel > edit > sources, last tab is restricted drivers.
[12:28] <OerHeks> (13.04)
[12:28] <Dalek-Caan> Let me see.
[12:29] <Dalek-Caan> raymond@Dalek-Caan:~$ sudo aptitude install conky curl lm-sensors hddtemp, gives me this:
[12:30] <Dalek-Caan> sudo: aptitude: command not found
[12:31] <semitones> what's a good open source video chat program?
[12:35] <michoo_> thank you i think the problem with my hardware
[12:36] <michoo_> i need oracle 8i for linux
[12:36] <OerHeks> Dalek-Caan, aptitude is removed as standard, bacause of architecture mix issues, use apt-get
[12:48] <hxr> ubuntu apache2 runing at 50% cpu?
[12:48] <Jagst3r15> Where is a good place to get my suggestion heard
[12:53] <OerHeks> Jagst3r15, as brainstorm is dead, start a topic @ http://ubuntuforums.org/forum.php for new suggestions/ideas
[12:53] <Jagst3r15> OerHeks of course I will get attacked
[12:53] <Jagst3r15> I want to suggest a way to have more up to date packages in LTS releases
[12:53] <Jagst3r15> and please just dont say if you want a more up to date package use a non-lts
[12:54] <Jagst3r15> ubuntu is a big project we should try to keep packages up to date in LTS releases too
[12:54] <Myrtti> backports
[12:54] <OerHeks> Jagst3r15, that is the only correct answer. sorry if that does not suite you
[12:54] <Jagst3r15> backports suck
[12:54] <icaunus> is there a shortcut, like pressing ctrl+F2 or something, on the default ubuntu desktop that lets you run an app? I want to run xterm
[12:54] <Jagst3r15> OerHeks it is making me consider going to windows again lol
[12:55] <OerHeks> icaunus, alt +f2 opens a dialog to start any application you want
[12:55] <cfhowlett> Jagst3r15, "we" ... so you're volunteering to help?
[12:56] <Jagst3r15> I could help yes
[12:56] <Jagst3r15> but what sthe point if no one else does
[12:56] <DJ_MuTeD> I need some help
[12:56] <icaunus> @ OerHeks thanks, that worked for me
[12:56] <DJ_MuTeD> Well I have a laptop running Windows 8 by default with UEFI
[12:56] <DJ_MuTeD> I installed ubuntu 13.04 on 2nd partition
[12:57] <DJ_MuTeD> How can i disable secure boot while windows 8 wont boot?
[12:57] <DJ_MuTeD> anyone?
[12:58] <Dalek-Caan> !patience | DJ_MuTeD
[12:59] <OerHeks> DJ_MuTeD, most likely in your bios
[12:59] <DJ_MuTeD> How can I get to BIOS settings?
[12:59] <DJ_MuTeD> Since it boots directly to grub
[12:59] <DJ_MuTeD> which doesnt work
[12:59] <OerHeks> DJ_MuTeD, check the manual from your vendor
[13:00] <tucemiux> DJ_MuTeD, it depends on your machine, try clicking DEL, F8, F10, or F1 key whn machine is booting up
[13:00] <varunendra> !uefi | DJ_MuTeD
[13:00] <cfhowlett> DJ_MuTeD, it doesn't boot directly to grub.  it goes trhrough power on/self test first, i.e. it looks at bios ...
[13:01] <OerHeks> cfhowlett, maybe fastboot skips that part, i heard funny stuff about fastboot
[13:01] <DJ_MuTeD> well, when the grub boots it shows some bessages like /EFI/Microsoft not found or something like that
[13:01] <DJ_MuTeD> I used boot-repair before
[13:01] <DJ_MuTeD> Since then it doesnt boot windows
[13:01] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, not familiar with it but based on your info ... do not want
[13:02] <cfhowlett> DJ_MuTeD, best practice is to get your windows running right THEN set up ubuntu ...
[13:02] <Dalek-Caan> For some reason, everytime I boot Firefox, it apologizes for not being able to start correctly.. every single time :(
[13:02] <Jagst3r15> use chromium
[13:02] <Jagst3r15> ff sucks
[13:03] <DJ_MuTeD> Windows was running fine
[13:03] <Dalek-Caan> Jagst3r15; That is not an answer to the question, and it should not do that.
[13:03] <cfhowlett> Dalek-Caan, start FF from a terminal and note the error messages
[13:03] <DJ_MuTeD> But i forgot to disable secure boot before installation
[13:03] <Dalek-Caan> cfhowlett; Thanks, will try that instead.
[13:03] <Jagst3r15> Dalek-Caan sorry your right
[13:03] <export> hi all i need to know if ubuntu for android and ubuntu os is the same or if they're different?
[13:04] <cfhowlett> export, different
[13:04] <cfhowlett> !android
[13:04] <export> thank you can you provide any resources?
[13:04] <Dalek-Caan> It is okay, Jagst3r15, but I don't want anything Google-alike on my system, I trust the guys from Mozilla more with my privacy, than I trust Google..
[13:04] <cfhowlett> !touch|export,
[13:06] <Dalek-Caan> cfhowlett; It shows this in the terminal; (process:3510): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion `sys_page_size == 0' failed
[13:06] <cfhowlett> Dalek-Caan, WAY over my head but the mozilla/firefox channel would know ...
[13:07] <Dalek-Caan> Mhh, will try to ask them! :D
[13:07] <cfhowlett> Dalek-Caan, before you do so ...
[13:07] <Dalek-Caan> Yes?  cfhowlett
[13:07] <cfhowlett> Dalek-Caan, you could purge and reinstall ff
[13:07] <Dalek-Caan> I tried, but still the same error.
[13:08] <cfhowlett> Dalek-Caan, also run apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:09] <OerHeks> Dalek-Caan, you can try to remove the firefox folder ~/.mozilla and start firefox again
[13:09] <Dalek-Caan> Let me try those things.
[13:09] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, thought of that, but based on the error, I assume it's a system glitch, not a /user glitch.  worth a shot though
[13:10] <PaintBucket> hello
[13:10] <cfhowlett> PaintBucket, greetings
[13:12] <Dalek-Caan> Argh, I am 100% sure my password is correct, can't get su to work either, but it shows this:
[13:12] <Dalek-Caan> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[13:12] <Dalek-Caan> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[13:12] <cfhowlett> Dalek-Caan, you've got an update or something running in the background ...
[13:13] <Dalek-Caan> Should not be a reason.. I updated my system an hour ago! :o but how can I assure this isn't the reason?
[13:13] <cfhowlett> Dalek-Caan, if you've got auto-update on that would do it ...
[13:14] <OerHeks> only one instance can use softwaresources, that is the error AFAIK
[13:14] <Dalek-Caan> It already auto updated an hour ago and said I now have the latest updates.. hmm.
[13:14] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, indeed.
[13:14] <Dalek-Caan> How to see what is using softwaresources?
[13:14] <PaintBucket> Can anyone tell me why I'm having such issues with a fresh install when the same version worked before?
[13:14] <PaintBucket> So far I've got two issues.. wifi keeps dropping and audo/video stuttering
[13:14] <PaintBucket> The audio/video thing did happen for a while in my old install.
[13:14] <cfhowlett> Dalek-Caan, well the EZ way is to reboot ... :)
[13:14] <PaintBucket> But, I don't remember the wifi issues being present. I'm using a belkin n300 dongle since I've always had issues with realtek's rtl8188ce chip
[13:14] <PaintBucket> sucked so hard..
[13:14] <FloodBot1> PaintBucket: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:15] <Dalek-Caan> cfhowlett; I just booted again.. erm, okay, let me try, brb
[13:15] <cfhowlett> Dalek-Caan, but if you run a terminal with ps -x| grep apt
[13:15] <PaintBucket> I tried everything google and ubuntu forum helpers could throw at that card and nothing gave.
[13:16] <varunendra> PaintBucket, please give us your ubuntuforums thread link.
[13:17] <PaintBucket> trying to find it
[13:17] <PaintBucket> seems i've forgotten my forum name..
[13:17] <varunendra> :)
[13:17] <PaintBucket> nvm remebered it
[13:18] <diablo_> hola
[13:18] <cfhowlett> !es|diablo_,
[13:18] <diablo_> gracias
[13:19] <PaintBucket> which one do you want? I had two of them going on but neither were resolved.
[13:19] <varunendra> PaintBucket, the wireless one.
[13:20] <Dalek-Caan> Okay, rebooted, cfhowlett , got this again: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5894073/
[13:20] <cfhowlett> Dalek-Caan, run ps -x|grep apt      to show what process is locking
[13:20] <OerHeks> Dalek-Caan, what command did you use ?
[13:20] <PaintBucket> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2139878
[13:20] <Dalek-Caan> raymond@Dalek-Caan:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade &&apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:20] <Dalek-Caan> \
[13:21] <Dalek-Caan> without the backslash, sorry, stupid Dell keyboard
[13:21] <OerHeks> ah, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ( 2x sudo is needed)
[13:22] <PaintBucket> that was for the wait.. that was for packet drops that I never figured out. It's never done this before.
[13:22] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, righto!  sorry Dalek-Caan for the bad intel.
[13:22] <Dalek-Caan> Oh, I see, did not know that it wouldn't accept sudo for the whole line, something new learned!
[13:22] <Dalek-Caan> It's okay! I love to learn, cfhowlett
[13:22] <OerHeks> cfhowlett, together we know all, there is no i in team ;-)
[13:22] <cfhowlett> Dalek-Caan, I generally run them consecutively as shown.  if you run them sequentially then of course you use sudo both instances
[13:22] <Campfire> :))
[13:23] <Dalek-Caan> I suppose this means I don't need new updates? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5894084/
[13:24] <cfhowlett> Dalek-Caan, yep means you're as up to date as you're going to be
[13:25] <OerHeks> Dalek-Caan,yes, only the -d option is possible now, for development upgrade ( but you don't want that )
[13:25] <youmee> guys, why when I shared internet over WiFi, when I trying to connect to created spot with iPhone/iPad, it asks for Username and password.
[13:25] <youmee> what username??? ://
[13:25] <youmee> WEP
[13:26] <Dalek-Caan> It shows on your Iphone/Ipad under settings, I assume, youmee ?
[13:26] <Dalek-Caan> If you are sharing 3G over Wifi (Or LTE/4G)
[13:26] <youmee> Dalek-Caan, when I tap on spot's name
[13:27] <youmee> it pops up a dialog with u/p
[13:27] <varunendra> PaintBucket, that's quite an old thread. I suggest you post a new one. Things may have changed by now. For example, I know there is an updated driver released by realtek in May.
[13:27] <youmee> Dalek-Caan, I try to share internet FROM ubuntu to iPhone
[13:27] <Dalek-Caan> Ah, okay, so your sentence was twisted, sorry.
[13:27] <Dalek-Caan> I am not sure how to do that, sorry.
[13:28] <PaintBucket> sorry, it dropped
[13:28] <Dalek-Caan> youmee; A simple google would have provided you with an answer though: http://askubuntu.com/questions/60980/how-to-share-a-wired-internet-connection-via-wifi
[13:29] <Campfire> is there a a good network security room for ubuntu
[13:29] <Campfire> channnal on irc
[13:29] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|Campfire,
[13:30] <Campfire> ty
[13:33] <Campfire> nice technology i did not know
[13:33] <iceroot> is it still a server-specific-kernel? imo the only difference was that server had PAE enabled by default. now the desktop is using PAE too as default
[13:34] <varunendra> PaintBucket, your latest thread in ubuntu forums was this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2146803 and post #5 in it has a solution to the compiling problem on 13.04 (not required on 12.04). Did you try it?
[13:34] <rob____> Hello
[13:34] <rob____> How do i need to install ssh?
[13:35] <Campfire> said no chanal for /j ubuntu-server
[13:35] <cfhowlett> !ssh|rob____,
[13:35] <iceroot> Campfire: /join #ubuntu-server
[13:35] <rob____> !sshd
[13:35] <Campfire> oh my bad ty
[13:35] <sasuke> hi.. Can anyone tell me how to enable output of HDMI port in ubuntu 12.04. I'm using lenovo SL410.
[13:36] <mrdeb> hi. is writing to ntfs save now
[13:36] <mrdeb> safe
[13:36] <rob____> How do i install it?
[13:36] <rob____> ssh doesnt exist
[13:36] <rob____> and sshd to
[13:37] <James0r2> any idea why my keyboard and mouse settings wont stick? I'm using Lubuntu 13.04
[13:37] <rob____> ??
[13:37] <Campfire> ubuntu-server for 12.10
[13:38] <Campfire> welll the channal
[13:41] <PaintBUcket> Hmm. Maybe something just went wrong at install? It's so hard to tell. I wasn't hanging/dropping like this last time I installed. However, it was a while back and I installed a bunch of packages and changed some things.
[13:42] <PaintBUcket> :(
[13:43] <oonick> ubuntu server is dead
[13:43] <ThePreacher> 7 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off a
[13:43] <ThePreacher> nd throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.
[13:44] <PaintBUcket> what the fuck..
[13:44] <oonick> ness
[13:44] <mrdeb> is ntfs writing safe now
[13:44] <BluesKaj> 1language |PaintBUcket
[13:44] <BluesKaj> !language |PaintBUcket
[13:45] <Dalek-Caan> Okay, this conky stuff is really too confusing for me, is there a GUI temperature manager?
[13:45] <mrdeb> Dalek-Caan: yes
[13:45] <BluesKaj> PaintBUcket, the preacher drops in every once in a while...harmless mostly
[13:46] <Dalek-Caan> mrdeb; What is it called, if you do not mind me asking?
[13:46] <oonick> i feel like i,m hacked when i see a netsplit or stuff like that is this normal
[13:46] <k1l> !netsplit > oonick
[13:47] <mrdeb> Dalek-Caan: type man conky in terminal and there are few depending on gpu or cpu
[13:47] <OerHeks> Dalek-Caan, System Load Indicator >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[13:47] <k1l> mrdeb: yes, ntfsdrivers  are stable now.
[13:48] <mrdeb> k1l: ok, i did not want to mess it up
[13:49] <oonick> buger
[13:49] <sasuke> hi.. Can anyone tell me how to enable output of HDMI port in ubuntu 12.04. I'm using lenovo SL410.
[13:50] <jesuse> hi.
[13:50] <mrdeb> what command is used to test hard drive errors
[13:50] <Dalek-Caan> Seriously, is that preacher account triggered by a bot or something though?
[13:50] <jesuse> just installed ubuntu 12.04
[13:50] <mrdeb> ok jesuse
[13:50] <jesuse> back again to this distro, I was away for a while with windows.
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> mrdeb  fsck, but when the drive is unmounted
[13:51] <mrdeb> MonkeyDust: will it tell u bad sectors
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> mrdeb  not sure, but there's also the command  badblocks
[13:52] <PaintBucket> Well, I think I might just do an install over this install and see if it's something that got broken during the install.
[13:52] <oonick> whats a good place to see if ubuntu will program to ram and cmos with no hdd
[13:53] <Dalek-Caan> OerHeks; When I try to start System load Indicator, it only shows an empty "About Indicator Applet Complete" bar, when I rightclick it, it will only show "About".
[13:53] <Dalek-Caan> Am I missing something?
[13:53] <mank319> Hey there :-)
[13:53] <PaintBucket> This was kinda weird from the start now that I think about it. I remember things weren't loading properly after initial install and reboot.
[13:54] <mank319> Using 13.04 here with a dualmontor setup and i just noticed, that the option "Always on visible workspace" does not work for windows if 2 monitors are connected
[13:54] <mank319> i would love to have a fixed, separate Desktop with just one workspace on my 2nd monitor
[13:55] <mank319> but unfortunately this does not seem to be able with compiz/unity, so forcing applications on the 2nd screen to be "always on visible workspace" would feel kind of like a workaround for my situation
[13:55] <mank319> would be glad if anyone who may have experienced the same problem before may give me a hint :-)
[13:56] <mank319> xmonad  or awesomewm do not play with unity/compiz, right? that would be so awesome
[13:57] <Dalek-Caan> How can I debug System Load Indicator? I am not sure how to run it from the terminal.
[14:00] <mrdeb> MonkeyDust: i mean if hdd is 10+ yrs old
[14:01] <oonick> is there a way to convert vga to ethernet  with a monitor and use ubuntu to network 20 monitors threw lan to one pc
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> mrdeb  scroll down, point 4, is it useful http://askubuntu.com/questions/14303/how-can-i-check-my-ram-and-harddrive-for-errors
[14:05] <oonick> how do you find out if your the cause of a netsplit
[14:05] <bekks> oonick: You will be told you were the cause ;)
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> oonick  NSA will tell you
[14:06] <oonick> cool col i,m ok
[14:11] <clemens> Hello! I have ubuntu 12.04 and try to use my Creative X-FI 5.1 Soundblaster (USB), but only the 2 front speakers are working. How can i enable 5.1 surroundsound?
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> clemens  technically, it's for this channel, but i guess the people in #ubuntu-studio can help better
[14:13] <clemens> thx i'll try it :D
[14:15] <oonick> is this as world wide as it gets for irc ubuntu
[14:16] <k1l> oonick: for genereal non ubuntu support chatter we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:17] <oonick> ty again
[14:18] <aaah> does 13.04 have good support of SSDs?  i know this is a general question, but i'm looking to replace my laptop drive with an SSD and didn't want to spend tons on it, so was wondering a good approach with respect to Ubuntu
[14:19] <bekks> aaah: Linux supports SSD for a long time now.
[14:20] <k1l> aaah: ext4 and fstab setting "discard" can handle ssds very well
[14:21] <aaah> any inexpensive options that have proven well?  linux compatibility always seems like a challenge to get out of product descriptions
[14:21] <oonick> for ubuntu 13.04 is multicast good starting out
[14:21] <x_> Hello everyone. I need help to move pictures from my network to a central location and rename any duplicates. my old camera named everything file001 etc. any ideas?
[14:22] <k1l> aaah: you dont need a linux-compatible ssd. all ssds are compatible
[14:25] <oonick> is it safe to turn off ccups in services if you don,t plan to print
[14:25] <aaah> k1l: for example, i heard of people with issues with OCZ because of how it reports the hardware and/or kernel support
[14:25] <bekks> oonick: Sure.
[14:25] <netlar> k1l: Is the fstab "discard" setting for trim?
[14:25] <oonick> from terminal i mean
[14:25] <bekks> netlar: Yes.
[14:26] <netlar> bekks: So if you do not set it there, there is no trim?
[14:26] <x_> Let's try it this way. Is there a way that I can search through all the computers on my network and give me a report of where all the .jpg and .JPG files are on my network? this way if i copy all those files to one place I can then go back an delete the actual picture files and leave the non-photos alone?
[14:27] <MonkeyDu1t> x_  better ask in the channel #bash, i guess
[14:28] <x_> MonkeyDu1t: thanks
[14:29] <OerHeks> x_ "locate *.JPG" works fine, but it searches tru / too
[14:29] <k1l> netlar: yes
[14:30]  * oonick like this
[14:31] <Senan_> Hi
[14:31]  * oonick changinging nicks and adresses might take some 
[14:31] <x_> OerHeks: is there a way to tell it to say look through just the /var or /opt directories?
[14:31] <x_> OerHeks: Just as an example
[14:31] <Senan_> How do I install ati driver in ubuntu
[14:31] <x_> locate *.JPG /var?
[14:32] <Senan_> additional drivers not detecting my card in 12.04.2
[14:32]  * oonick :)
[14:32] <Senan_> but in 12.04.1 it was working fine
[14:33] <oonick> oh wow so same thing as term
[14:33] <k1l> oonick: again: we have another channel for chatting: #ubuntu-offtopic .please keep this channel clear for the support
[14:35] <samjd101> hai
[14:35]  * oonick   ok that helps  
[14:36] <samjd101> /nick
[14:37] <dwarder> am i understand right that configuring postfix is easy in ubuntu, you just setup dns MT records and upon postfix installation enters this dns name, and mail sending from server works from this step
[14:37] <dwarder> ?
[14:37] <dwarder> dns name == domain name
[14:37] <iceroot> dwarder: yes
[14:37] <dwarder> gooood :)
[14:37] <samjd101> any body else get a problem with cryptmapper not booting when updating to 13.04
[14:37] <Senan_> I am facing some issues in installing ati driver
[14:37] <iceroot> dwarder: if you want to send the mail from a client with that server (as smtp) additional work is needed
[14:37] <bekks> dwarder: Its not that easy. You have to configure postfix.
[14:38] <dwarder> bekks: doesn't it provide some kind of wizard where you just enter data and it got configured?
[14:38] <iceroot> dwarder: yes, that is part of dpkg/debhelper
[14:38] <dwarder> iceroot: i ain't need mo :)
[14:38] <Xial> I've done something dumb. I've forgotten my password on a headless machine. I can log on automatically via an nxmachine session that I set up long time ago. Before I haul a monitor out to this machine to either reset the password or completely reinstall the OS, is there a way to force a password change from within Ubuntu if you lack the password? My searching has not been fruitful in that
[14:38] <Xial> regard. Thanks for your time.
[14:39] <samjd101> [A[B
[14:39] <iceroot> dwarder: but its just the basic for mta on that server, nothing with smtp/imap or something like that
[14:39] <dwarder> iceroot: i just need to send some logs from the servr
[14:39] <dwarder> server*
[14:39] <iceroot> dwarder: then just install postfix
[14:40] <iceroot> Xial: if you could boot the server with a live-system its easy to restore the root/userpassword
[14:40] <iceroot> Xial: without knowing the password you can not change it inside the running system
[14:40] <Dr_willis_> you can set a new password.  not exactly recovery the old. ;)
[14:41] <iceroot> yes of course :) with restore i mean set a new password (hash)
[14:41] <Xial> That's what I figured, iceroot. I'll have to haul a monitor out to it later, then. Thanks. :)
[14:41] <iceroot> Xial: boot a live-cd and chroot the system or mount the hdd and edit /etc/shadow and put in a new hash for a password you know
[14:41] <bekks> dwarder: No. You have to know what you are doing, when configuring a mail server.
[14:42] <dwarder> bekks: isn't default is safe enaugh?
[14:42] <dwarder> it the*
[14:42] <dwarder> is the*
[14:42] <dwarder> is =''
[14:42] <dwarder> enough*
[14:42] <iceroot> dwarder: it is, the default is just sending mail fromn localhost
[14:43] <iceroot> dwarder: its not an open-relay, so just install postfix as i said earlier
[14:43] <theadmin> dwarder: No need to correct yourself so much, floods the channel, your message did make sense anyway. This ain't Reddit.
[14:43] <bekks> dwarder: Not necessarily. Even if it would be - you have to know how it is configured. Otherwise your server might turn into one of those open relay spam servers out there.
[14:43] <dwarder> iceroot: i'm trying to say this to bekks
[14:43] <dwarder> theadmin: ok
[14:44] <pero_p> hi guys, i searched a while and found nothing. i need to get the offset of a file in a DVD, how can i do this?
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> dwarder  if you're speaking to someone, use his nick in front of your comments
[14:46] <pero_p> hi guys, i searched a while and found nothing. i need to get the offset of a file in a DVD, how can i do this?
[14:46] <bhavin> I just installed Ubuntu 12.10 on my Win 7 machine. Win 7 was on C drive and I had two other partitions D & E drive. I am unable to access them now. Is there a way to access those drives again?
[14:47] <pero_p> bhavin, you should mount them in nautilus
[14:47] <bhavin> I chose the replace Windows 7 with Ubuntu option
[14:47] <pero_p> bhavin, in the left side
[14:47] <bekks> bhavin: Then they are gone now.
[14:47] <bhavin> I'm new to ubuntu can you help me with the syntax
[14:47] <bekks> bhavin: "replace".
[14:47] <dwarder> MonkeyDust: i do?
[14:47] <pero_p> bhavin, so seems you format entire drive then
[14:47] <bhavin> all the three partitions are gone now?
[14:48] <bekks> bhavin: We dont know. You have to check that.
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> bhavin  you erased them during install
[14:48] <pero_p> bhavin, use this command in terminal : sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[14:48] <pero_p> bhavin, and give us the result
[14:49] <bhavin> does choosing the replace option removes all existing partitions?
[14:49] <dwarder> MonkeyDust: where i used it wrong?
[14:49] <bekks> bhavin: Thats what "replace" means.
[14:49] <iceroot> bhavin: if you choose (use entire hdd) yes
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> dwarder  used what wrong?
[14:49] <pero_p>  i need to get the offset of a file in a DVD, how can i do this?
[14:50] <dwarder> MonkeyDust: wrong nickname placement
[14:51] <pero_p> bhavin, you may have a chance to recover them if you don't copy new data to your hdd
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> dwarder  had to look up to know what you mean, you said "iceroot: i'm trying to say this to bekks", now let's move on, shall we
[14:51] <codephobic> hi
[14:51] <bhavin> pero_p: here's the result http://pastebin.com/81huMizT
[14:52] <dwarder> MonkeyDust: i used it right!
[14:52] <dwarder> MonkeyDust: you read it out of the context
[14:52] <dwarder> MonkeyDust: ok lets move on
[14:53] <pero_p> bhavin, so if you have only 1 hdd installed, your drives are lost
[14:53] <pero_p> bhavin, but don't worry too much, as i said, if you don't copy new data to them there is still a hope
[14:53] <shwouchk> Hi
[14:53] <shwouchk> After a hard shutdown of the computer, emacs (24.3.1) started acting up: the pointer resizes for depending on the character I am standing on, characters don't update when deleted, only when overwritten, the pointer itself doesn't always update location (especially on whitespace), and the modeline has different widths at different places. How can I debug what is causing this?
[14:53] <codephobic> I've had a serious poweroutage and my Netgear ReadyNAS duo is no longer working - the power light and leds blink (slowly) and the fan spins fast but the device is not booting up - and as a result I've been trying to connect the 2 1TB disks to my desktop and get my work files (and personal photos) onto this machine.
[14:54] <bhavin> pero_p: is there a way to get the data back?
[14:54] <codephobic> Unfortunately, I can't seem to access either drive. They're both "LVM" drives and I haven't a clue how to get ubuntu to "see" them.
[14:54] <bhavin> pero_p: will installing Win 7 again show those partitions again?
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> !lvm
[14:55] <pero_p> bhavin, no, installing windows 7 again does not help
[14:55] <erle-> is there any working way to record master audio in ubuntu?
[14:55] <Dr_Willis> all i know on lvm is the urls. :() i see way to many people have issues with lvm to try it.
[14:55] <codephobic> I thought a NAS was supposed to provide a straightforward method of using the disks in the event of a failure to the actual NAS box...
[14:55] <pero_p> bhavin, but i know only some partition recovery that only run's on win7
[14:55] <pero_p> bhavin, you could search the net for PARTITION RECOVERY software
[14:55] <Dr_Willis> codephobic,  was the lvm spread across both drives?
[14:56] <codephobic> Dr_Willis, I'm not sure. All I know is that the 2 1TB drives were supposed to be copying the data between them, in a RAID configuration.
[14:56] <bhavin> pero_p: ok.... thanks
[14:56] <pero_p> bhavin, there is a software named "testdisk" for linux
[14:57] <bhavin> pero_p: I'll give it a shot
[14:57] <pero_p> bhavin, use it patiently!
[14:57] <pero_p> bhavin, you're welcome ;)
[14:57] <bekks> codephobic: RAID1 does not help you when the NAS is failing It only helps you when one disk is failing.
[14:58] <pero_p> bhavin, i meant Cautious, my english is so little bad :)
[14:58] <pero_p> hi guys, i searched a while and found nothing. i need to get the offset of a file in a DVD, how can i do this?
[14:59] <bhavin> pero_p: why? is there a risk of crashing my hdd?
[14:59] <codephobic> bekks, it was RAID 0 I think, mirroring or whatever. The two disks were meant to be copying data from each other, so that if one died I could use the other on its own.
[14:59] <bekks> codephobic: RAID0 is striping
[15:00] <pero_p> bhavin, no not crash, but this software is really powerful and if you take wrong action, you maybe remove boot from a drive or etc
[15:00] <bekks> codephobic: And that mechanism only helps ou in case a drive failure, not in case of a NAS failure.
[15:00] <codephobic> bekks, well whichever RAID does copying is the one that I have/had.
[15:00] <pero_p> bhavin, but as long as your english is better than mine, you can read helps and manuals of it, :D
[15:01] <codephobic> bekks, I realise that, but I just assumed that I could pull the drive out and install it on this desktop and try and copy/use the files that way.
[15:01] <bekks> codephobic: Which might work, but not necessarily.
[15:01] <pero_p> i need to get the offset of a file in a DVD, how can i do this?
[15:02] <pero_p> hmm seems no one here could help me, nor google :( sadly
[15:02] <codephobic> bekks, I'm surprised at that. I honestly thought these nasboxes would keep the drives compatible with linux (given that they are basically linux systems).
[15:02] <theadmin> pero_p: It's no use repeating every minute, it's not like much will change. In the meantime, try asking this on askubuntu.com with as much details provided as possible.
[15:02] <codephobic> RAID 5 is mirroring, no?
[15:03] <codephobic> (I think that's the RAID setting I had on my NAS)
[15:03] <pero_p> theadmin, thanks admin, but my friend is coming to take back his DVD from me any minute now, and i don't even advance a bit :(
[15:03] <codephobic> (ignore that, it was RAID 1 mirroring)
[15:03] <pero_p> bye everybody
[15:03] <codephobic> So, anyone know how to access the LVM disk with ubuntu?
[15:04] <pero_p> bhavin, good luck to you ;)
[15:04] <pentesterguy> Hello everybody.
[15:04] <pentesterguy> I have a certain question.
[15:04] <pentesterguy> which might seem simple for most of you.
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/34751/how-to-find-out-the-file-offset-of-an-opened-file
[15:04] <pentesterguy> How can I check out my RAM?
[15:04] <theadmin> pentesterguy: "check out"?
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> pentesterguy,  memtest fromt he grub menu does a battery of ram tests
[15:05] <pentesterguy> How can I know if I am running a heavy OS on a slow PC?
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> 'heavy' os and 'slow pc' are relative terms.  what are you trying to determine exactly?
[15:05] <theadmin> pentesterguy: Uh, well, you can see the RAM use in the "System Monitor". "free -m" will give you details, too, also see http://linuxatemyram.com
[15:05] <pentesterguy> Dr_Willis, I ran BackTrack Linux, which is quite a heavy OS.
[15:05] <pentesterguy> and I'd like to know that, am I doing the right thing?
[15:06] <pentesterguy> Is BackTrack too heavy for my computer?
[15:06] <theadmin> pentesterguy: Also, Backtrack is not supported here.
[15:06] <pentesterguy> I'd like to make a move to Ubuntu.
[15:06] <Dr_Willis> pentesterguy,  really? I thiguth backtrack was rather light.
[15:06] <k1l> pentesterguy: backtrack is not supported in here
[15:06] <pentesterguy> Dr_Willis: nope.
[15:06] <k1l> !backtrack > pentesterguy
[15:06] <pentesterguy> k1l: I am making a switch to Ubuntu, and this is a Ubuntu-related question.
[15:06] <theadmin> pentesterguy: Generally, Ubuntu needs about 512MB of RAM to work properly, the more the better (disk cache, yay).
[15:06] <Dr_Willis> the OS isent heavy its all the apps its running by default.  like the defult desktop
[15:06] <pentesterguy> K1l, take a nice look at the guidelines.
[15:06] <pentesterguy> even though you're an operator.
[15:06] <theadmin> pentesterguy: If you want a lighter version, you should seriously consider Xubuntu and Lubuntu
[15:07] <pentesterguy> theadmin: Ubuntu 13.04 is 'heavy'?
[15:07] <pentesterguy> !guidelines | k1l
[15:07] <theadmin> pentesterguy: I wouldn't say so, no.
[15:07] <pentesterguy> Do your job correctly, k1l.
[15:07] <pentesterguy> oh, theadmin.
[15:07] <theadmin> pentesterguy: Definetly better than Windows in that regard, that much I can tell
[15:07] <pentesterguy> I am obsessed with xfce though.
[15:07] <theadmin> pentesterguy: Oh. Then you'll love Xubuntu.
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> pentesterguy,  use xubuntu then
[15:07] <theadmin> pentesterguy: Which is Ubuntu+XFCE.
[15:07] <pentesterguy> oh, that's perfect!
[15:08] <pentesterguy> thanks, dr_willis & theadmin.
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> lightest full featured desktop would be Lubuntu
[15:15] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Is LXDE really much lighter? I don't really notice any speed difference. Although there's a fairly different set of default apps.
[15:16] <Shangril> join #dogmazic
[15:16] <Shangril> ooops
[15:16] <Shangril> sry
[15:16] <shwouchk> how can I reinstall a package XXX and all the tree of its dependencies?
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> shwouchk  sudo apt-get install [package] --reinstall
[15:17] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: That'll just reinstall the package...
[15:18] <theadmin> This is a rather difficult question, no idea how to do that with APT. shwouchk, if I were you, I'd write some form of script that'd check dependencies of everything recursively and pass that to apt-get --reinstall install...
[15:19] <Dr_Willis> theadmin,  on my low low end pcs its very noticeable ;)
[15:19] <ubuntivity> hello people, is the script /etc/rc.local is executed as root or as the regular user?
[15:19] <theadmin> ubuntivity: root
[15:19] <Dr_Willis> all of a packages dependencies.. all the way down.. could end up being a large chunk of the system
[15:19] <ubuntivity> Thanks theadmin.
[15:19] <Dr_Willis> ubuntivity,  it runs befor a user logs in. so its ran as root.
[15:20] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: emerge -D package, I'd say if this was Gentoo... But I have no idea how to tell APT to do that.
[15:20] <ubuntivity> thanks Dr_Willis
[15:20] <codephobic> anyone know how to mount a ReadyNas duo LVM disk in ubuntu?
[15:20] <shwouchk> theadmin: the thing is, then all those packages will get added to the list of user requested packages, no?
[15:20] <OerHeks> theadmin, to run a script as user @login, should that be placed in ~/.profile?
[15:20] <shwouchk> theadmin: I miss portage :(
[15:21] <theadmin> shwouchk: What, exactly, is the purpose of such a reinstall?
[15:22] <theadmin> OerHeks: Not all too sure, I'd go with ~/.config/autostart/
[15:22] <antithesis> How to automatically login to tty1 on startup in Ubuntu Mini?
[15:22] <theadmin> OerHeks: That's read by most desktop environments
[15:23] <k1l> antithesis: it should drop to a shell on the mini install
[15:23] <shwouchk> theadmin: Suddenly (after a hard shutdown) emacs (both gtk and lucid) act weird when in X, even with -Q. reinstalling the packages did not help. I wanted to reinstall the dependencies as well
[15:23] <k1l> !text | antithesis
[15:24] <theadmin> shwouchk: sudo apt-get install vim-gtk # :P
[15:24] <antithesis> k1l but I want it to automatically login to a user I specify
[15:24] <theadmin> shwouchk: But seriously, that sounds like a problem :(
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> antithesis,  you can alter the /etc/init/tty1.conf and i recall makign it login to a console as a user. but i forget how i did it once ages ago..
[15:27] <antithesis> Dr_Willis will this work http://askubuntu.com/questions/71621/how-do-i-setup-tty-autologin-in-ubuntu-which-is-running-upstart
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> antithesis,  /etc/init/tty#.conf is the upstart configs
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> i may have the file name wrong
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> i had befor where alt-ctrl-f12 was a 'rescue' console that was root on a problem system ages ago. :)
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> i had the tty12.conf file where it ran somthing like   /usr/bin/agetty --autologin <username>
[15:28] <aze_> hiiiiiiiiiiii  people
[15:29] <aze_> any one here
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> lots of people here.
[15:30] <shwouchk> theadmin: thanks
[15:34] <xgt001> hi, my Ubuntu 12.04 randomly logs out :/ I have tried the latest components from xorg-edgers ppa, and still the issue persists.. I think this might be the issue, but I have no clue how to solve it :( any pointers could be very helpful https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/980519
[15:34] <taek> MOrning Fellow ubuntu`ers
[15:35] <Dr_Willis> 'random log off' - normally means its 'crashing'
[15:36] <patsToms> morning, I have ati hd 3200 and I want ati legacy driver
[15:36] <patsToms> If I understand correctly
[15:36] <patsToms> I can't get it using ubuntu
[15:36] <Dr_Willis> watching the x org logs might give a clue whats crashing.  often its the X drivers, or ive seen other things cause X to crash
[15:36] <xgt001> Dr_Willis, yes,  can you tell which log to check out? there are many xorg.0. xorg.1 2 3 blah blah logs
[15:37] <xgt001> or should I check dmesg??
[15:37] <Dr_Willis> the ones with the #'s are the old archived logs
[15:38] <Dr_Willis> move/remove them to some sub dir if you want. and start with a new log.. ssh in and watch that log from a differnt machine and wait for a crash  :) is one way to hopefully catch whats crashing it in real time
[15:39] <Dr_Willis> watch dmesg output in real time also  ( i always got a spare ssh box for this) might give a clue also.
[15:40] <ubuntivity> antithesis: did you get your auto-login issue solved?
[15:40] <antithesis> ubuntivity no, I haven't tried yet
[15:40] <xgt001> Dr_Willis, ok, just went through Xorg.0.log coudlnt find any errors or such
[15:40] <tirengarfio__> I change my processor, but I have the same hd, can I go from Ubuntu 13.04 32 bits to 13.04 64 bits?
[15:40] <tirengarfio__> *changed
[15:40] <antithesis> I'm going to install Ubuntu mini and I'm asking this beforehand
[15:41] <k1l> antithesis: why do you need a autologin on konsole?
[15:41] <xgt001> I actually want to switch back to stock ubuntu drivers... but I will loose the latest UVD + DPM functionality in the latest saucy kernel and mesa :( dont want to loose them
[15:41] <Dr_Willis> tirengarfio__,  you mean you are moving the HD with the ubuntu instal into a new pc?
[15:41] <antithesis> ubuntivity I did find http://nixgeeks.com/how-to-enable-automatic-login-in-ubuntu-server/ though
[15:41] <ubuntivity> antithesis: did the guys here provide a detailed solution for you (sorry I was disconnected, I couldn't see)
[15:41] <tirengarfio__> yes
[15:41] <Dr_Willis> tirengarfio__,  64bit cpus can run 32bit os fine.
[15:41] <bekks> antithesis: Thats a pretty insecure approach.
[15:41] <k1l> antithesis: for most cases you want services to autostart and not a user to autologin
[15:42] <antithesis> bekks why is that insecure?
[15:42] <ubuntivity> Oh, good. antithesis, I did make a pc of mine autologin, I can tell you the details if you are interested
[15:42] <taek> antithesis: very insecure.
[15:42] <antithesis> Yes, please
[15:42] <Dr_Willis> anyone can come into the room, reboot the pc.. get a user shell/login..
[15:42] <bekks> antithesis: Because an attacker will have access without even having to break in.
[15:42] <antithesis> I don't believe in attackers
[15:42] <antithesis> They don't exist
[15:42] <k1l> antithesis: again: why do you want autologin?
[15:42] <ubuntivity> antithesis: edit your /etc/init/tty1.conf as root (sudo nano /etc/init/tty1.conf)
[15:42] <bekks> antithesis: LOL. You should stop dreaming. Wake up.
[15:43] <Dr_Willis> theres been several links given as to what to put in the tt#.conf file for a auto login at a console.
[15:43] <xgt001> Dr_Willis, btw should I check out my .xsession-errors file as well? didnt find anything there too :(
[15:43] <antithesis> No, really, there is no danger
[15:43] <tirengarfio__> Dr_Willis, so I would not gain anything if I change to Ubuntu 64 bits?
[15:43] <antithesis> No danger at all. :)
[15:43] <ubuntivity> antithesis: then change the last line that start with "exec" in the following way:
[15:43] <Dr_Willis> tirengarfio__,  most likely nothing real noticeable.. unless you got a lot of ram.
[15:44] <ubuntivity> antithesis: the line should look like "exec /bin/login -f USERNAME < /dev/tty1 > /dev/tty1 2>&1"
[15:44] <antithesis> ubuntivity thank you
[15:44] <ubuntivity> replacing USERNAME with your username, of course :)
[15:44] <antithesis> That looks a lot like the inittab customization I made earlier in Arch
[15:44] <ubuntivity> you are welcome antithesis ^_^
[15:44] <k1l> antithesis: last try: why do you want to autologin. you may want a service to autostart and not a user to login
[15:44] <bekks> antithesis: You should really wake up and face reality.
[15:44] <tirengarfio__> Dr_Willis, I have 16 GB
[15:45] <antithesis> k1l I want to boot to Xorg using startx
[15:45] <ubuntivity> guys, go easy with the dude. He may have his reasons..
[15:45] <k1l> antithesis: stop that. dont use startx on ubuntu :/
[15:45] <antithesis> I know how to customize my ~/.bash_profile
[15:45] <antithesis> Why not?
[15:45] <bekks> ubuntivity: Yeah. But there is no reason besides denying reality to actually believe in "there are no attackers".
[15:45] <k1l> ubuntivity: no, he got no clue what he is doing :/
[15:45] <antithesis> startx is my favourite display manager.
[15:46] <k1l> antithesis: this is not arch. you start the x with the dm. like lightdm
[15:46] <antithesis> k1l I don't like lightdm.
[15:46] <bekks> antithesis: Its outdated and not supported anymore. and startx isnt an display manager at all, and it never was.
[15:46] <ubuntivity> Maybe his linuxbox is not connected to the network?
[15:46] <bekks> ubuntivity: Even then there are attackers.
[15:46] <antithesis> So what's the replacement to startx?
[15:46] <taek> Walk By Attacks!
[15:46] <ubuntivity> bekks, now you should get serious :/
[15:46] <k1l> antithesis: sorry but this will cause problems on ubuntu. use a dm like lightdm, gdm or such
[15:46] <antithesis> k1l I don't like lightdm, gdm or such.
[15:47] <taek> Denial.
[15:47] <ubuntivity> What do you mean by 'offline attackers'? bekks, you mean viruses ??
[15:47] <bekks> ubuntivity: No. I mean attackers. Viruses are viruses.
[15:47] <k1l> antithesis: they provide autologin, too
[15:47] <taek> ubuntivity: he means people with access to t the physical machine
[15:47] <ubuntivity> I wouldn't call that an attacker taek !
[15:48] <taek> Well they arn't pedestrians if they are using the machine!
[15:48] <ubuntivity> They are probably his family members!!
[15:48] <DJones> !ot
[15:48] <antithesis> k1l I do know what I'm talking about, as is clear from the fact that I've used Arch linux.
[15:48] <Dr_Willis> tirengarfio__,  you may want to switch to 64bit then.
[15:48] <k1l> antithesis: the user cant start x he needs some root rights wich is not possible in ubuntu because its uses root in another way than arch
[15:49] <k1l> antithesis: if you want arch behaviour use arch :/
[15:49] <tirengarfio__> Dr_Willis, is possible? I can not find a good tutorial about it..
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> tirengarfio__,  is what possible?
[15:49] <tirengarfio__> go to 64 bits os?
[15:49] <Droopsta915> what command do use to install gmount iso folder from desktop?
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> tirengarfio__,  you install the 64bit os...
[15:49] <antithesis> k1l I can't go back to Arch; it always breaks!
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> tirengarfio__,  you dont upgrade from 32bit to 64bit os.
[15:49] <k1l> antithesis: and please stop that "i use arch i know everything about linux". that will not help you for ubuntu specific issues, which i am explaining to you
[15:49] <tirengarfio__> I have installed 32 one, I want to go to 64
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> a clean install is required.
[15:50] <tirengarfio__> really?
[15:50] <k1l> antithesis: if you use ubuntu go with the ubuntu way :/
[15:50] <tirengarfio__> so is not possible go from 32 to 64..
[15:50] <taek> tirengarfio__: 64bit has it's own issues
[15:50] <bekks> taek: A reinstall is the clean way.
[15:50] <k1l> tirengarfio__: not withour reinstall
[15:50] <ubuntivity> Dr_Willis: you've just raised a nice issue in my mind! Can we simply upgrade the kernel from x86 to x64? and if no, then why??
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> tirengarfio__,  'go from' -  > you INSTALL the 64bit os on the machine... you dont UPGRADE a cyurrent 32bit OS into a 64bit os..
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> ubuntivity,  NO you dont.
[15:51] <ubuntivity> Why not, Dr_Willis ?
[15:51] <Dr_Willis> No idea. i havent usesd 32bit in years.
[15:51] <taek> Windows doesn't have a 32 to 64bit upgrade - just doesn't happen
[15:51] <ubuntivity> Windows is not THE OS! taek
[15:51] <tirengarfio__> Dr_Willis, ok thanks!
[15:52] <taek> ubuntivity: Did I ever say it was?
[15:52] <ubuntivity> If Windows doesn't do it, it doesn't mean it is not possible!
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> I have had no real issues with 64bit ubuntu in ages..   i cant even recall the last issue i had that was due to 64bit
[15:52] <OerHeks> ubuntivity, not possible to "upgrade 32 to 64 or back"
[15:52] <ubuntivity> I know it is not possible, but I want to know WHY?
[15:52] <antithesis> k1l I will go with the Ubuntu Mini way. :)
[15:52] <taek> incompatible.
[15:52] <bekks> ubuntivity: Because 32bit cant execute 64bit.
[15:52] <antithesis> Which I just defined myself. It's: "use startx and the like."
[15:53] <k1l> antithesis: use a *dm or you will recieve alot of problems
[15:53] <bekks> antithesis: Then you are pretty much on your own, since thats not the Ubuntu way.
[15:53] <ubuntivity> Yes, so what about an external bootable OS that changes the Kernel of the already-installed OS to become 64 bits?
[15:53] <lolwatnao> xorg servers ftw
[15:53] <lolwatnao> :D
[15:53] <antithesis> k1l I think those 'problems' of yours are just as common as attackers; not at all.
[15:53] <taek> antithesis: just do what you want, and don't come back with problems - you've been told :-P
[15:53] <theadmin> bekks, k1l: Works just fine, actually, I installed Ubuntu from a minicd yesterday and use startx. The only real problem is I can't shutdown from GUI, but that's ConsoleKit stuff :/
[15:54] <antithesis> bekks just tell me the Ubuntu counterpart to startx then
[15:54] <antithesis> *dm is not the same.
[15:54] <antithesis> The day antithesis got told.
[15:54] <lolwatnao> I use startx on my arch linux
[15:54] <theadmin> antithesis: "startx" does work on Ubuntu, usually starts your default desktop (and I've no idea how it determines that)
[15:54] <bekks> antithesis: startx isnt a dm. The ubuntu way to start X is to use a *dm.
[15:54] <k1l> theadmin: you will get in trouble with the root settings.
[15:54] <bekks> lolwatnao: Archlinux isnt Ubuntu.
[15:54] <theadmin> k1l: Who said to run that as root?
[15:55] <lolwatnao> bekks: ok, but it works well on there so why not ubuntu?
[15:55] <antithesis> lolwatnao have you ever experience any problems with it?
[15:55] <lolwatnao> nope
[15:55] <bekks> lolwatnao: BEcause its not the Ubuntu way.
[15:55] <lolwatnao> works like a charm on arch
[15:55] <antithesis> See, guys, no problems
[15:55] <lolwatnao> bekks: define ubuntu way
[15:55] <bekks> lolwatnao: The Ubuntu way is to use *dm
[15:55] <k1l> lolwatnao: this is not arch :/
[15:55] <bekks> lolwatnao: Please follow the ongoing discussion.
[15:55] <OerHeks> ubuntivity, you would get an architecture error.
[15:56] <bekks> OerHeks: Thats not true.
[15:56] <ubuntivity> error by whom? OerHeks
[15:56] <lolwatnao> kll, bekks: wat are you a bunch of conservative people who want to hold up the old ubuntu traditions? :P
[15:56] <k1l> lolwatnao: drop that attitude :/
[15:56] <bekks> OerHeks: If you replace the kernel to a 64bit, your system will still work, since your userland is 32bit which is executable on 64bit.
[15:56] <lolwatnao> sorry, hat was uncalled for
[15:56] <theadmin> bekks: Uh, what exactly is "the ubuntu way"? Is it defined somewhere? I'm not even sure. I mean, I can hop onto an Ubuntu install from a Minicd, do a "sudo apt-get install lxde" and then "startx" and most stuff will wok fine, for example.
[15:56] <bekks> lolwatnao: Yes.
[15:56] <semitones> the way that can be put into words is not the true way
[15:57] <semitones> packages what can be apt-getted are not the true packages
[15:57] <lolwatnao> semitones: wow. Trippy.
[15:57] <ubuntivity> So, it is NOT only the kernel that differs between x86 and x64, right? It is the entire plethora of binaries??
[15:57] <theadmin> ubuntivity: Yeah, all of them
[15:57] <bekks> ubuntivity: Correct.
[15:57] <semitones> lolwatnao: :P
[15:57] <antithesis> Ok k1l I will give your fancy 'Bantoo method a chance. Tell me of a WORKING way to start a .xinitrc script on startup using *dm
[15:57] <antithesis> I've tried this many a time, but to no avail
[15:57] <antithesis> That's why I want to use startx; it works.
[15:58] <ubuntivity> theadmin, bekks: That was easy to say! Why nobody simply answered me with that??
[15:58] <bekks> antithesis: What does your .xinitrc actually do? Auostarts some apps?
[15:58] <checoimg> Can you compile it with make with a -m64 flag ?
[15:58] <bekks> ubuntivity: We did. :)
[15:58] <antithesis> bekks ya
[15:58] <lolwatnao> I actually have very little experience with ubuntu, using it for only 3 months. Then I needed sun java
[15:58] <bekks> !autostart | antithesis
[15:58] <bekks> antithesis: there you go.
[15:58] <antithesis> ubottu what's a Unity?
[15:58] <antithesis> Is this part of the Ubuntu way?
[15:58] <antithesis> Because I don't like it.
[15:58] <ubuntivity> bekks: I don't remember so, I just remember being told that it is not possible!
[15:59] <ubuntivity> !unity
[15:59] <theadmin> antithesis: Unity is the default Ubuntu desktop environment. It's based on GNOME and Compiz.
[15:59] <k1l> antithesis: if you want to get technical support stop that fool-mode
[15:59] <lolwatnao> antithesis: oh no you didn't!
[15:59] <antithesis> lol
[15:59] <moondog> !notunity
[15:59] <ubuntivity> I feel it is hot in here! Turn the AC on please!
[16:00] <k1l> antithesis: .xsession gets run on start with a dm
[16:00] <theadmin> Doesn't the fallback mode not work anymore?
[16:00] <lolwatnao> ubottu: can you install enlightenment dm on ubuntu :D
[16:00] <k1l> theadmin: its not named -classic
[16:00] <lolwatnao> ubottu: oh :C
[16:00] <theadmin> lolwatnao: Sure, e17 is in the repos.
[16:00] <Guest24514> test message
[16:00] <ubuntivity> !enlightment
[16:00] <lolwatnao> Yay!
[16:00] <ubuntivity> !enlightenment
[16:00] <antithesis> bekks thanks for the suggestion of changing my desktop environment for a task as trivial as changing my autostart programs, but I do not feel it is in accordance with the UNIX philosophy and, therefore, I do not want to do that. Please tell me of another way to change my autostart programs using *dm
[16:00] <k1l> theadmin: *now
[16:01] <lolwatnao> enlightenment is really nice :3
[16:01] <lolwatnao> looks excellent.
[16:01] <Dr_Willis> E17 never seems to run well..
[16:01] <ubuntivity> antithesis: you mean it is not the UNIX way ^_*
[16:01] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Agreed. Buggy thingamajig.
[16:01] <bekks> antithesis: Well, I'll just stop supporting you, since you are denying all approaches for helping you, showing you alternatives, and because you arent stopping your "I'm an Arch user, I know it all" attitude.
[16:01] <lolwatnao> really? in my experiences with it it was the best, trumping xfce gnome and lightdm
[16:01] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: As ubottu stated, that's a "development" version, though, maybe it's best to use e16.
[16:01] <dsfasdf> any
[16:02] <jesuse> hi guys, I am trying to use ICA on ubuntu but It is giving an error. Any of you have use it?
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> E is the constantly changeing desktop/de/wm/library - they never seem to know which way whty want to go.. been toying with it for years.
[16:02] <jesuse> ICA independent computing architecture. Citrix Receiver.
[16:02] <dsfasdf> any app for file recovery in ubuntu ?
[16:02] <lolwatnao> Dr_willis: half the fun ;D
[16:02] <theadmin> dsfasdf: Try photorec. The best I found that really works.
[16:02] <theadmin> dsfasdf: Part of the testdisk suite, so "apt-get install testdisk" to get it
[16:03] <lolwatnao> theadmin what is apt-get? (sorry i haven't used ubuntu in a long time)
[16:03] <ubuntivity> lolwatnao: it is like the rpm
[16:03] <theadmin> lolwatnao: Muh... One of the central parts of APT, the Debian package management system.
[16:03] <ubuntivity> if you weren't sarcastic, lolwatnao
[16:03] <lolwatnao> theadmin: ohhhh so like pacman?
[16:04] <bekks> ubuntivity: No. It is like yum. :)
[16:04] <theadmin> lolwatnao: Sort of.
[16:04] <ubuntivity> right bekks , sorry my mistake :)
[16:04] <antithesis> bekks sorry, I didn't see that last message of yours. Now testing .xsession.
[16:04] <lolwatnao> ok, sorry for my noobishness.
[16:04] <bekks> ubuntivity: dpkg would be like rpm.
[16:05] <lolwatnao> Is there a repository for ubuntu like the AUR where we can download tarballs and makepkg them c:
[16:05] <ubuntivity> true, bekks. The issue is that I never used the redhat packaging tools, so I just heard about them!
[16:05] <bekks> lolwatnao: There are a lot of PPA.
[16:05] <k1l> lolwatnao: nope. no AUR for ubuntu. we got PPAs
[16:05] <theadmin> lolwatnao: Nah. Everyone is allowed to submit software to the "extra" repository, though.
[16:05] <ubuntivity> what does PPA stand for?
[16:05] <bekks> !ppa | lolwatnao
[16:05] <k1l> !ppa > lolwatnao
[16:05] <theadmin> lolwatnao: Yeah and PPAs.
[16:06] <lolwatnao> hm.
[16:06] <lolwatnao> Is there a ppa for sun java?
[16:06] <bekks> lolwatnao: yes.
[16:06] <lolwatnao> switched to arch for nothing then T_T
[16:06] <theadmin> lolwatnao: Yes, but what on Earth for? OpenJDK works just fine.
[16:07] <ubuntivity> OpenJDK can completely replace Java?
[16:07] <bekks> lolwatnao: :D You nickname makes sense now :D
[16:07] <bekks> ubuntivity: No.
[16:07] <lolwatnao> old version didn't work with some apllets at all
[16:07] <theadmin> ubuntivity: OpenJDK is an implementation of Java
[16:07] <lolwatnao> applets*
[16:07] <ubuntivity> Can OpenJDK work for Android software development?
[16:07] <lolwatnao> bekks: wat?
[16:07] <bekks> Oracle JDK6 was the reference implementation of Java.
[16:07] <theadmin> ubuntivity: It does, from what I know, then again I'm not a developer...
[16:08] <ubuntivity> I'll go ask in #android
[16:08] <bekks> Brocade SAN Switches dont work with OpenJDK, e.g.
[16:08] <Droopsta915> i have downloaded ubuntu 12.04iso. can i copy and paste the file into my usb stick to run from usb?
[16:09] <caleress> hey guys my pc boots (sometimes to a blank screen), although i can see the cursor and hear the login sound...also after a restart everything works ok its just annoying, does anyone have any idea why this could be ?
[16:09] <bekks> Droopsta915: No. you have to create a bootable usb medium¨.
[16:09] <ubuntivity> caleress: I had this issue on 8.10
[16:09] <lolwatnao> caleress: Does your video card have the proper drivers?
[16:09] <antithesis> Well, bekks, I've included "xcowsay lel" in my ~/.xsession before reissuing a login, and I've paid close attention to my dual-head setup, but there was no cow saying "lel' to be found. How do you explain this?
[16:09] <caleress> i have that crappy nvidia optimus stuff with bumblebee installed
[16:10] <ubuntivity> My video card wasn't supported. although it could actually boot in from time to time. caleress
[16:10] <theadmin> What on Earth... is going on here? Can someone shed light on this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5894526/ -- awkwardest error ever.
[16:10] <bekks> antithesis: I'll repeat my last post for you.
[16:10] <Droopsta915> bekks: do you know a link i can follow to do so? i cant find the right link to show me how to create a bootable flashdrive
[16:10] <bekks> antithesis: Well, I'll just stop supporting you, since you are denying all approaches for helping you, showing you alternatives, and because you arent stopping your "I'm an Arch user, I know it all" attitude.
[16:10] <lolwatnao> theadmin: ill give it a shot o_o
[16:11] <Jakinro> How can I download high-quality porn videos from xvideos.com to my computer in ubuntu ?
[16:11] <antithesis> Just like I thought, bekks: you don't know and you don't want to admit that startx is superior. Thanks anyway.
[16:11] <caleress> ubuntivity: well mine is *somewhat* of supported
[16:11] <lolwatnao> theadmin: is there a link there which is broken and is leading somewhere else?
[16:11] <Jakinro> antithesis, startx is the godfather of all x's.
[16:11] <Jakinro> bekks is just retarded, that's all.
[16:11] <caleress> not officially but it does work for now :)
[16:11] <theadmin> lolwatnao: No, "heimdall" is the actual binary file.
[16:11] <bekks> antithesis: Whatever you think. I dont support you. Although I know the solution. I decide to not help you, since thats my free time I am spending here
[16:12] <caleress> i guess i could try removing ot
[16:12] <bekks> Thanks k1l
[16:12] <caleress> *it
[16:12] <ubuntivity> theadmin: what if you "cat heimdall"??
[16:12] <lolwatnao> theadmin wow. that's weird.
[16:13] <bekks> ubuntivity: What is that supposed to do, besides messing up your terminal?
[16:13] <theadmin> ubuntivity: I rather wouldn't paste that... Lots of nonsense. "file heimdall" tells me: heimdall: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildIDâsha1ê=0xe3d400859c94ab4be1c7d4279f18143aafeec089, not stripped
[16:13] <lolwatnao> HA! there is a broken link SOMEWHERE!
[16:13] <ubuntivity> I don't want to see its content, I want to know if cat can access it
[16:13] <lolwatnao> that's what i got out of it o-o
[16:13] <bekks> ubuntivity: BEtter use ls then.
[16:14] <lolwatnao> !cat
[16:14] <lolwatnao> o-O
[16:14] <ubuntivity> can you "ls ../Downloads -l" theadmin?
[16:15] <lolwatnao> I know how to use the terminal imma arch user >:C
[16:15] <theadmin> ubuntivity: Access rights are fine... I own the file and all the directories, all dirs are executable, the file is 755
[16:15] <lolwatnao> theadmin: positive? did you sudo it? e-e
[16:16] <caleress> ubuntivity: thanks for the info
[16:16] <antithesis> bekks I beg you, please share with me your knowledgeable knowledge, for I long for the enlightened state in which you are.
[16:16] <theadmin> lolwatnao: Err, well, I tried but: sudo: unable to execute ./heimdall: No such file or directory
[16:16] <lolwatnao> theadmin: missed that sudo part
[16:16] <bekks> antithesis: Ignore set.
[16:16] <lolwatnao> theadmin: xD
[16:16] <ubuntivity> theadmin: tried 'mv'ing it into another name?
[16:16] <theadmin> ...This is awkward. The 32-bit version worked... But this is a 64-bit system. Oh well, no logic here.
[16:17] <ubuntivity> renamed it? theadmin
[16:17] <theadmin> ubuntivity: Yeah but same thing happens. Oh well problem solved anyway, although in a very odd way.
[16:17] <lolwatnao> theadmin: try deleting it and getting it again (watever heimdall is)
[16:17] <iceroot> theadmin: because sudo is looking on /root/.heimdal for that file. use "sudo sh heimdal" instead
[16:18] <bekks> theadmin: 64bit can execute 32bit. Not vice versa. This mechanism is called "multi arch"
[16:18] <theadmin> iceroot: Ain't a shell script, so that'll fail, it's a true binary.
[16:18] <lolwatnao> DID SOMEONE SAY ARCH?! xD
[16:18] <theadmin> bekks: I know. But running 64-bit on 64-bit failed.
[16:18] <ubuntivity> theadmin: how it was solved?
[16:18] <theadmin> bekks: Which is plain unexplainable.
[16:18] <theadmin> ubuntivity: Ran the 32-bit version of the app %)
[16:18] <bekks> theadmin: Why?
[16:19] <iceroot> theadmin: sh will see that it is a binary. ./script will call bash/sh to look into the script and the kernel will decide what interpreter is needed
[16:19] <ubuntivity> So, can I suppose the 64 bit version is corrupted?
[16:19] <iceroot> theadmin: so "sudo sh ./heimdal" is fine
[16:19] <bekks> ubuntivity: Works fine here for years.
[16:19] <ubuntivity> hard disk failure?
[16:19] <theadmin> iceroot: Ah. I just used "sudo ./heimdall", wouldn't be the same?
[16:19] <bekks> ubuntivity: We dont know.
[16:19] <iceroot> theadmin: no
[16:20] <theadmin> iceroot: Hm. Let me try that option, but still pretty odd.
[16:20] <ubuntivity> Guys, it is time for me to break my fasting (Iftar) so I'll have to leave
[16:20] <ubuntivity> I wish a blessed Ramadan for all of you :)
[16:20] <theadmin> iceroot: Well, that gave me: ./heimdall: 1: ./heimdall: ELF: not found
[16:21] <iceroot> theadmin: sudo -i; ./heimdal then :)
[16:21] <theadmin> Oh well whatever, glad the 32-bit version worked anyway, guess that solves the problem.
[16:22] <theadmin> Not too interested in it to dig further :D
[16:23] <valentin007> There is a french ???
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[16:35] <JustM0Bin> hey guys can someone help me real quick
[16:36] <k1l> !details | JustM0Bin
[16:37] <JustM0Bin> ubuntu 13.10.. im trying to get samba file sharing to work between ubuntu and a windows 7 computer
[16:37] <genii> Hm, Saucy
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> JustM0Bin  13.10 is unstable, #ubuntu+1 for support
[16:37] <JustM0Bin> ohhh k thanks guys
[16:38] <mm12> hey all
[16:40] <Dr_Willis> samba can be a pain even on stable releases. ;)
[16:41] <JustM0Bin> haha yea its annoying i had a pain free setup on my old computer but why would that happen twice haha
[16:41] <lobo2> hola
[16:41] <Trel> I have a guide that is telling me to use the command usbconfig, that appears to be a bsd command, is there any utility I can use to do this in ubuntu? http://askubuntu.com/questions/90906/turn-off-microsoft-explorer-touch-mouse-haptic-feedback
[16:41] <guanamo> Hello, my name is not antithesis and I have nothing to do with him in fact, but could anymore (for example, bekks) help me? I am trying to change my autostart programs using gdm. Is there any way to make it run a specified script like .xinitrc on startup?
[16:41] <lobo2> alguien sabe como modificar el numero imie de un android?
[16:41] <theadmin> lolol
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> guanamo,  easier to use the .config/autorun/scripts
[16:42] <Dr_Willis> !find usbconfig
[16:42] <theadmin> guanamo: As Dr_Willis said, place any scripts you want to run on desktop startup in ~/.config/autostart/
[16:42] <lobo2> modifity imei number mobile¿?
[16:42] <lobo2> alguien know?
[16:42] <theadmin> !es | lobo2
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> lobo2,  you dont change  your imei as far as i know.,  and theres the #android channel
[16:43] <Trel> Dr_Willis: I know it doesn't exist, I'm asking what I can use for the same effect?
[16:43] <lobo2> thanks
[16:44] <john1234> hello everybody!!!!:)
[16:45] <mm12> hi
[16:45] <Gryfelhase> Hi kids... is there any easy to use video-dvd creator for ubuntu ?
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> !info devede
[16:46] <Gryfelhase> i'm using ubuntu 12.04 and my video source is mpeg
[16:46] <Dr_Willis> devede works well for my simple needs
[16:46] <Gryfelhase> ok, will check it
[16:46] <Gryfelhase> thx
[16:46] <Dr_Willis> may be others out there, but devede is fairly simple and works well
[16:48] <k1l> devede is really simple and does a good job
[16:49] <john1234> WHAT devede?
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> people forget to click that resize to fit button.. ;)
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> !info devede
[16:49] <k1l> !devede | john1234
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> right there in the repos.
[16:50] <Gryfelhase> Launching program:  mplayer -loop 1 -identify -ao null -vo null -frames 0 /usr/share/devede/silence.ogg
[16:50] <Gryfelhase> elemento:  /usr/bin
[16:50] <Gryfelhase> mplayer: could not connect to socket
[16:50] <Gryfelhase> mplayer: No such file or directory
[16:50] <john1234> OH ,sorry,i know!
[16:50] <Gryfelhase> mplayer is installed
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> does  /usr/share/devede/silence.ogg  exist?
[16:51] <Gryfelhase> yes, .../silence.ogg is there
[16:52] <Aziroshin> I need a little reminder: Does INCLUDE_PATH do anything? When googing for it, I only see things like C_INCLUDE_PATH and CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH
[16:54] <Gryfelhase> Ah... it didn't worked cause I stared it with a   &
[16:59] <rogier_> how do i disable the keyboard in my laptop? Some of the keys are stuck due to a soup spill. I'm using external keyboard now. But the stuck keys keep ctrl+R ing.
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> that may be a neat trick to do rogier_ ..  #hardware might have some ideas.
[17:00] <Dr_Willis> it might be possible to set up the X server to only use the external keyboard.
[17:00] <rogier_> what is a neat trick?
[17:00] <theadmin> rogier_: http://wpkg.org/Disable_/_enable_keyboard_and_mouse_in_Linux
[17:00] <rogier_> How do i configure x server?
[17:00] <DJones> rogier_: There may be something on this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1663298
[17:00] <wilee-nilee> rogier_, Generally keyboard replacements are rather cheap and easy to install, have you looked around.
[17:01] <Dr_Willis> may be easier to dissasemble and clean the keyboard
[17:02] <rogier_> Yes but i use external keyboard/ mouse/ screen always. So there is no need to replace.
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> rinse and repeat
[17:02] <Dr_Willis> then disaemble and leave it out. ;)
[17:02] <theadmin> rogier_: Follow the link I sent, it's a rather easy procedure to disable an input device.
[17:02] <rogier_> Yes but have big project, this is my only pc. I will dissamble and so and after project \.
[17:02] <Dr_Willis> leaveing it sit for the next few months.. is going to be  nasty.
[17:02] <devx> can anyone tell me pls gnome 3.8 supports the virtualbox or not
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> devx,  huh? you mean does gnome 3.8 work IN vbox?
[17:03] <theadmin> devx: Uh, what? GNOME and Virtualbox are entirely unrelated.
[17:04] <wilee-nilee> devx, 3.8 is a ppa or 13.10 right?
[17:04] <devx> no vbox in gnome3.8
[17:04] <wilee-nilee> devx, it is not stock in any release.
[17:06] <devx> means no way after add ppa in ubuntu 12.10 os gnome 3.8 and after done upgrade
[17:06] <wilee-nilee> !ppa
[17:06] <k1l> devx: i still dont know what the real problem is :/
[17:07] <devx> k1l: it does no support
[17:07] <devx> and i want help
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> devx, 3.8 is not fully put together in that ppa I believe i says that on the web page
[17:07] <devx> because i have already upgraded and vbox is not working
[17:08] <devx> pls any help
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> devx, Purge the ppa and use the version provided in the repos.
[17:08] <k1l> devx: so you have 12.10 with gnome3.8 running and vbox doesnt start?
 do u have icq account
[17:09] <wilee-nilee> A what?
[17:09] <devx> k1l :yes
[17:09] <devx> do u have icq account
[17:09] <devx> can we chat over that
[17:09] <wilee-nilee> what is a icq
[17:10] <taek> "what is icq", are you serious?
[17:10] <wilee-nilee> I don't do pm
[17:10] <k1l> devx: you could use ppa-purge to remove that gnome3.8 and look if vbox does work then
[17:10] <devx> whare are u from
[17:10] <Dr_Willis> icq? havent seen that mention in years and years...
[17:10] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[17:10] <wilee-nilee> the mother ship
 what the mother ship
[17:11] <pranav> i have my friend in lan. how do i host svn server, so we could code together in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> !svn
[17:11] <taek> sudo apt-get install subversion
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> install and configure subversion
[17:11] <devx> ok
[17:12] <taek> how to use it, you'll have to look it up
[17:12]  * taek <- only uses windows svn clients
[17:12] <devx> is cs6 is Swish max is working on wine
[17:12] <devx> in 12.10
[17:12] <taek> I highly doubt cs6 works in ubuntu wine
[17:12] <pranav> taek: Dr_Willis have there already..
[17:13] <devx> ok and swish max
[17:13] <taek> Never heard of devx
[17:13] <wilee-nilee> taek, I am quite sure I can provide many things you have never heard of. ;)
[17:13] <taek> wilee-nilee: I am sure, since I am not a normal user of ubuntu desktop
[17:13] <taek> normal->regular
[17:13] <k1l> devx: for wine questions please ask the specialists:
[17:13] <devx> animation software www.swishmax.com check it
[17:13] <wilee-nilee> who says any of us are
[17:14] <k1l> !wine | devx
[17:14] <taek> !appdb photoshop
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> linux ix linux anyway hardly a differnce in the 100's available.
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> is*
[17:14] <devx> how can make the flash wesite in ubuntu12.10
[17:14] <devx> *website
[17:15] <holstein> devx: you are creating a flash website? i would try a web development channel
[17:15] <Gryfelhase> (i wouldn't mae a flash website :D)
[17:16]  * taek wouldn't touch flash -
[17:16] <devx> i cant get help from here or not
[17:16] <theadmin> "flash website" ಠ_ಠ
[17:16] <devx> can i get help from here
[17:16] <Dr_Willis> Flash is worth running away from.
[17:16] <devx> flash website
[17:16] <Dr_Willis> learn html5 would be the best advice
[17:16] <wilee-nilee> noscript, noscript
[17:16] <k1l> devx: please specify the questions
[17:16] <holstein> devx: i dont mean to be unclear.. check the /topic here, friend, and if you have a relevant question, please ask.. otherwise, try a channel where the topic is web development.. thanks!
[17:16] <Gryfelhase> dex: sorry, don't know a flash creation to for linux, but I have no clue if there is one)
[17:17] <taek> wilee-nilee: adblock + elemental hiding tool + noscript
[17:17] <taek> t:D
[17:17] <holstein> you can make flash exports from libreoffice, but i wouldnt use it for web development
[17:17] <devx> in html5 all things will be fulfilled
[17:17] <taek> devx -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:17] <k1l> devx: which native language is yours? maybe we have a channel in your native language for better support
[17:18] <taek> k1l I assume devx is trying to make flash for a website.
[17:18] <devx> english
[17:18] <k1l> taek: i think we cant help him if we only assume what he wants. :/
[17:19] <taek> He's already asked questions about photoshop cs6 something max and asking questions about websites and subversion.
[17:19] <devx> pls help
[17:19] <Gryfelhase> k1l: he searches for an flash-creating tool for ubuntu
[17:19] <taek> I think i've been following pretty decently.
[17:19] <devx> no boss
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> devx,  give details of exactly what it is you are wanting.
[17:20] <k1l> devx: ok, with english you are fine in here. but please explain with more details what you really want to do. there is still confusion what you want to achieve
[17:20] <devx> can i install all the backtrack tools in ubuntu12.10
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> wow.. jump around a lot in the questions...
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> devx,  i imagine most are in the ubuntu repos.
[17:21] <k1l> ah, now i think i know which user that is :/
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> Bt tweaks a lot of things.
[17:21] <OerHeks> Dr_Willis, And he knows all answers to his own questions :-D
[17:21] <Gryfelhase> I think his question is pretty clear... many websites have flash elements... and he asks, how to create them (what tools are in ubuntu)
[17:21] <Gryfelhase> to do so
[17:22] <devx> can i install all the backtrack tools in ubuntu12.10
[17:22] <holstein> devx: ask the backtrack team. which is not kali linux AFAIK.
[17:22] <Dr_Willis> devx,  look in the repos for the tools you want, if they are there. you can install them.
[17:22] <brontosaurusrex> Gryfelhase, and the answer was : learn html5 (js, canvas, ect), could not be cleraer
[17:22] <rogier_> Hello, so i installed ubuntu today on this computer i found. Now i want to use this computer to start an international media empire in order to eventually rule the western hemisphere. How do i go about this? What software do i need? I'm used to using mac OS for my activities. But i like the future to be open source.
[17:22] <holstein> which is now*
[17:22] <deadweasel> Kleopatra has unmet dependecies in 12.04 ??  I just did a fresh install and I can't get kleopatra running.  12.04 lts x64, libkdepim4 : Depends: kdepim-runtime but it is not going to be installed
[17:23] <Gryfelhase> brontosaurusrex: This is a suggestion, but not an accourate awnser
[17:23] <pranav> Dr_Willis: says.. svnadmin: 'ff' is a subdirectory of an existing repository rooted at ''
[17:23] <Dr_Willis> deadweasel,  done a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' yet?
[17:23] <devx> can u tell the best wifi hacking tool
[17:23] <brontosaurusrex> Gryfelhase, you can't expect "us" to support commercial stuff, can't you?
[17:23] <deadweasel> not a complete upgrade, just updates and installs
[17:23] <taek> deadweasel: have you tried installing the dependencies ? sudo apt-get -f install
[17:23] <deadweasel> i'll try now
[17:23] <k1l> devx: wifi hacking is not supported in here
[17:23] <holstein> devx: no. but a networking channel can.. please try /join in one
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> deadweasel,  i dont mean a release upgrade..
[17:24] <deadweasel> no worries, I'm fully upgraded anyhow.
[17:24] <taek> Dr_Willis: that reminds me, I did a distro-upgrade and now I get a lsb_release error
[17:24] <taek> :D
[17:24] <devx> can u tell the backtrack irc chat ball
[17:25] <holstein> devx: chat ball?
[17:25] <k1l> !backtrack > devx
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> only time ive seen  unmet depencies on a clean install was when i hadent done a 'sudo apt-get update' yet.
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> taek,  you broke it! ;P
[17:25] <taek> !!!
[17:25] <taek> OMG, Ubuntu!
[17:25] <Gryfelhase> brontosaurusrex: No, but if there whould be tools in ubtuntu, those who know could give an awnser. Or the awnser is "I don*t know"
[17:25] <taek> No seriously though, the error report dialog box is starting to become annoying.
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> taek,  you mean the apport message/dialogs?
[17:26] <theadmin> taek: sudo apt-get remove whoopsie
[17:26] <taek> I guess it doesn't matter, next week this machine will become a 12.04 server.
[17:26] <taek> whoopsie?
[17:26] <theadmin> taek: The error reporting tool
[17:26] <devx> how is steave
[17:26] <taek> No thanks :D
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> !info whoopsie
[17:26] <brontosaurusrex> Gryfelhase, true.
[17:27] <taek> I mightr need it for something important
[17:27] <taek> haha
[17:27] <OerHeks> Gryfelhase, there are no fancy tools for flash development, as flash is closed source. and devx knows that> <devx> in html5 all things will be fulfilled
[17:27] <pranav> i find /etc/apache2/httpd.conf empty in my ubuntu
[17:27] <taek> HTML 5 doesn't make the web better.
[17:27] <taek> pranav: that's normal
[17:27] <Dr_Willis> the death of flash makes the web better. ;P
[17:28] <pranav> how to enable mod_dav then
[17:28] <taek> the death of advertisement will make the world better!
[17:28] <theadmin> pranav: sudo a2enmod dav # Or something like this.
[17:28] <deadweasel> fully upgraded, yet unmet dependcies.  I guess I'll wait on kleopatra.
[17:28] <taek> deadweasel: have you tried sudo apt-get -f install ?
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> deadweasel,  tried a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[17:29] <Gryfelhase> OerHeks: Thats no argument. doc or ppt are also closed source (at least it was)... reengenering ;)
[17:29] <deadweasel> that won'[t take me of 12.04 will it?
[17:29] <pranav> taek: ok :) but where is the settings file ?
[17:29] <deadweasel> Dr_Willis: ^?
[17:29] <taek> apache2.conf
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> deadweasel,  No. its not a RELEASE upgrade
[17:29] <deadweasel> :), thx
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> deadweasel,  what reelase are you using now?
[17:29] <taek> pranav: /etc/apache2/apache.conf
[17:29] <deadweasel> Ah, this is doing something.  fantastic, thx.   12.04.2 ltx x64
[17:30] <wooo> How to mount a partition. for eg I want to mount /dev/sdb1
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> !mount | wookiehangover
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> !mount | wooo
[17:30] <k1l> deadweasel: see man apt. dist-upgrade will not upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10
[17:30] <deadweasel> 227mb of upgrades
[17:30] <deadweasel> duh
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> deadweasel,  held back packages
[17:30] <deadweasel> i see.
[17:31] <tgm4883> when doing a dist-upgrade, it's worth verifying that it isn't trying to remove a bunch of packages as well
[17:31] <devx> tell me is there any ubuntu certification institute in india
[17:31] <tgm4883> not that removing packages is bad, just make sure it's not trying to remove stuff that it shouldn't
[17:31] <pranav> taek: its empty as well
[17:31] <pranav> apache.conf
[17:31] <pranav> normal ?
[17:31] <devx> tell me is there any ubuntu certification institute in india
[17:31] <taek> pranav: what are you looking for exactly?
[17:31] <pranav> i enabled mod dav
[17:31] <DJones> devx: You're probably better asking your local Ubuntu group about that
[17:32] <pranav> using a2enmod
[17:32] <pranav> but when i restart
[17:32] <k1l> !in | devx
[17:32] <devx> pranav : do u know any ubuntu certification institute in india
[17:32] <pranav> it says i have invalid /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/dav_svn.conf
[17:32] <pranav> which is not the case
[17:33] <k1l> devx: ask in #ubuntu-in
[17:33] <holstein> devx: not that i see.. please do not repost your questions
[17:33] <taek> pranav: you'll probably be better off in the proper channel for apache
[17:33] <pranav> taek: ok, thanks
[17:33] <taek> pranav:  please join #apache
[17:33] <pranav> sure..
[17:34] <jemark> Ubuntu certification? I thought that was obsolete?
[17:34] <wooo> I have used sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt . but still I am not able to open it
[17:35] <taek> One needs to be certified to use ubuntu?!
[17:35] <tgm4883> taek, no, but you can be certified
[17:36] <taek> I guess mac users need to be certified to even touch one then..
[17:36] <jemark> hehe
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> wooo,  ls /mnt   you see any files ?
[17:36] <tgm4883> taek, there are redhat, linux, and windows certifications as well
[17:36] <zykotick9> wooo: what filesystem is this?  fat/ntfs probably needs more options then what you used.
[17:37] <tgm4883> I'd guess there are Mac ones too, but IDK about them
[17:37] <wooo> Dr_Willis, nothing.
[17:37] <jemark> now they they would have Mir, maybe there needs to be a special Ubuntu certification
[17:37] <wooo> zykotick9, FAT.
[17:37] <taek> tgm4883: I was poking fun at hte mac users..
[17:37] <tgm4883> jemark, there was a certification before that, and the certification has nothing to do with Mir
[17:37] <zykotick9> wooo: good luck then, you need more options to give mount (i wouldn't know what they are).
[17:37] <jemark> tgm4883: before, that one is obsolete ;)
[17:38] <wooo> zykotick9, ahh. I am stuck.
[17:38] <th0r> wooo, try sudo mount -t vfat /dev..........
[17:38] <tgm4883> jemark, no, certification has to do with ones ability to administer the system. A) Mir isn't out yet, and B) I would guess that the certification mostly (if not entirely) deals with server stuff
[17:39] <jemark> tgm4883: I agree
[17:40] <tgm4883> jemark, looking into it a bit further, they actually have separate desktop and server certification, but the desktop ones don't seem to deal much with the display server anyway   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EngineerCertification/DesktopTasklist
[17:41] <jemark> tgm4883: good to know. thanks for the link and info
[17:42] <tgm4883> jemark, yw
[17:42] <devx> tell me is there any ubuntu certification institute in india
[17:42] <tgm4883> devx, did you ask in the india channel?
[17:42] <devx> no help in #ubuntu-in
[17:43] <wooo> Thor, no luck with that also
[17:44] <Thor> wooo: wha? wrong person perhaps?
[17:44] <DJones> devx: Be patient in the India channel, you could also send an email to the ubuntu-in mailing list, people that are in that channel or on the mailing list are most likely to be able to give you advice
[17:44] <wooo> Thor, sorry. :)
[17:44] <Thor> no problems
[17:44] <devx> tell me is there any ubuntu certification institute in india
[17:45] <jemark> tgm4883: project is dead? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EngineerCertification
[17:45] <DJones> devx: Please stop repeating your question so often
[17:45] <tgm4883> jemark, yea, I'm looking at that now
[17:45] <wooo> th0r, no luck with that. I have tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB but still I am not able to find anything in /media/external
[17:45] <taek> isn't india asleep right now?
[17:45] <jemark> tgm4883: me too
[17:45] <tgm4883> jemark, there was a partner with lpi, but I'm not seeing anything there related to ubuntu certification
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> devx  ask here    https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[17:46] <th0r> wooo, well, you said you were mounting to /mnt, so I am not surprised you can't find anythign in /media/external
[17:46] <jemark> tgm4883: yeah
[17:46] <wooo> th0r, Now I am using sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/external -o uid=1000,gid=1000,utf8,dmask=027,fmask=137
[17:47] <cplx> hi guys - running 13.04 - I have put 'setpci -d 8086:3b28 90.b=40' in /boot/grub/custom.cfg and doesn't seem to be running on startup.. how can I confirm? I have checked hwinfo --storage and still runing ata_piix mode not AHCI....
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> wooo those seem somewhat odd entries for dmask and fmask. normally
[17:47] <dinnah> hlp...2 scren but i can switch from one scren  to anoda.had dis problem sins ystadai.try google.no useful info.
[17:47] <th0r> wooo, the -o options should come before the device or mountpoint I believe
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> dinnah, you may want to retype that question. it was barely readable.
[17:48] <tgm4883> jemark, yea I think it's dead
[17:49] <vader__> Couls somebody tell me how to change default image veiwer in Elinks from fbi to fbv? fbi does not work in Screen or fbterm.
[17:49] <dinnah> Dr_willis:i connected my  desktop screen on ma laptop.but i can not switch from my laptop screen to my desktop screen.
[17:50] <jemark> tgm4883: there is still Redhat, SUSE and LPI :)
[17:50] <tgm4883> well devx is gone now, but since there doesn't appear to be a ubuntu certification anymore, I would suggest he look into an LPI certification. There appears to be an institute in India  http://www.lpi.org/international-affiliates/affiliate-locations
[17:50] <Dr_Willis>  dinnah  for my laptop i used the special fn-FKEYS to toggle between the 2. or i  used the video/screen config tools to enable/clone both (or use an extended desktop)
[17:50] <tgm4883> jemark, correct, just not ubuntu
[17:51] <jemark> tgm4883: indeed
[17:51] <tgm4883> jemark, and IIRC, the LPI one gets you Linux+ and possibly the suse one as well
[17:51] <tgm4883> jemark, eg. getting certified in one gets you certified in the others without needing to test
[17:51] <jemark> tgm4883: I know, I have LPIC2
[17:51] <tgm4883> nice
[17:52] <tgm4883> jemark, I've thought about going for those certs, but I'm not sure what it would gain me over what I have now
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> another line to add to your resume. ;)
[17:52] <cplx> Jordan_U: you around ??
[17:52] <jemark> tgm4883: I agree, you won't gain anything... other than a paper.
[17:52] <dinnah> Dr_Willis:ok...i think i can work with fn-KEYS...bt i have no idea how they work.
[17:52] <saiarcot895> cplx: you can try putting the switch in /etc/default/grub and running sudo update-grub
[17:53] <tgm4883> Dr_Willis, but does that gain me anything over experience? I'm currently the team lead of our system admin team where we run primarily Ubuntu servers along side a few redhat and windows servers
[17:53] <tgm4883> I've not seen any job postings that want an LPI, if anything, they usually want RHCE
[17:54] <cplx> saiarcot895: just add that exact command anywhere in that /etc/default/grub file?
[17:54] <jemark> tgm4883: yes, RHCE is more wanted, or LPIC3 ;)
[17:54] <zykotick9> vader__: i'd look for a #elinks channel, see "/msg ubottu alis" for a freenode search option.  i am an elinks user as well, but i doubt there are too many others here in #ubuntu...  best of luck.
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> tgm4883,  when your next interview is with a 18 yr old in charge of hireing.. ;)     he wont understand what experience is.
[17:54] <saiarcot895> cplx: It will probably go at the end of GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[17:54] <tgm4883> Dr_Willis, heh, possibly
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> tgm4883,  hopefully that wont happen.
[17:54] <vader__> will do zykotick9, thanks.
[17:55] <saiarcot895> cplx: I haven't heard of that command, though
[17:55] <cplx> saiarcot895: "quiet splash" ? where would I add the setpci command
[17:55] <tgm4883> Dr_Willis, hopefully any future job interviews would be done by people of a technical background. But I agree, getting past HR to that interview certification would probably help
[17:55] <Dr_Willis> cplx,  between the 2 is a good place.
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> "quiet      <insert here>   splash"
[17:56] <cplx> Dr_Willis: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet setpci -d 8086:3b28 90.b=40 splash"
[17:57] <saiarcot895> cplx: once you run sudo update-grub and restart, if things don't go well (as in it doesn't boot), in the Grub boot menu, use e to edit the boot configuration and remove the command you entered.
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> cplx,  you sure that setpci is a kernel option?  it sure dont look like one
[17:57] <saiarcot895> cplx: that looks right
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> cant say ive ever seen setpci used befor.
[17:57] <cplx> saiarcot895: update-grub or update-grub2 ?
[17:57] <saiarcot895> cplx: either
[17:57] <saiarcot895> cplx: they'll do the same thing
[17:58] <zykotick9> s/they'll do the same/they ARE the same/
[17:58] <cplx> thanks saiarcot895
[17:58] <saiarcot895> zykotick9: true
[18:03] <pepper_chico> Hey, I've seen news about an ubuntu countdown, is it inaccessible now?
[18:04] <saiarcot895> pepper_chico: interesting, it doesn't seem to be up now
[18:04] <OerHeks> pepper_chico, right, that countdown 4 days is gone http://www.ubuntu.com
[18:06] <pepper_chico> anyone knows with high probability for what the count down was?
[18:06] <pepper_chico> first phone?
[18:06] <k1l> pepper_chico: just sit and wait, or guess in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:06] <pepper_chico> I sit and wait then
[18:08] <k1l> pepper_chico: well, that will be some long sitting and waiting :)
[18:08] <pepper_chico> no problem
[18:09] <cplx> Dr_Willis: I added it how you suggest and doesn't look like it switched over to AHCI... i have done some reading and looks like it needs to be added to /boot/grub/grub.cfg above the 'set root' line - can this be done while booting up and using the 'e' command on boot?
[18:09] <cplx> saiarcot895:  I added it how you suggest and doesn't look like it
[18:09] <cplx>               switched over to AHCI... i have done some reading and looks like
[18:09] <cplx>               it needs to be added to /boot/grub/grub.cfg above the 'set root'
[18:09] <cplx>               line - can this be done while booting up and using the 'e'
[18:09] <cplx>               command on boot?
[18:10] <FloodBot1> cplx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:10] <cplx> my bad...
[18:10] <pepper_chico> ya know one thing, I'm seeing to much hate against ubuntu… now that's it aiming at profit… well anyway, I like it and at last, it's promoting linux at another spheres
[18:10] <rcmaehl> Help! My sound crashes everytime I connect my A2DP device to it
[18:10] <rcmaehl> Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit
[18:11] <saiarcot895> cplx: I think you have to do that within Ubuntu
[18:11] <k1l> rcmaehl: did take a look into the logs or get any error messages?
[18:11] <saiarcot895> cplx: then run update-grub
[18:12] <cplx> saiarcot895: /boot/grub/grub.cfg is read-only?
[18:12] <rcmaehl> k1l, what log would it be under?
[18:13] <saiarcot895> cplx: you can either edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg directly (in which case you have to repeat the change every time you or the system does update-grub) or edit the files in /etc/grub.d
[18:13] <saiarcot895> cplx: if the former, you need sudo
[18:17] <OerHeks> saiarcot895, Configuration changes are normally made to the /etc/default/grub file and to the custom scripts located in /etc/grub.d. No changes are made to the GRUB 2 menu until the update-grub command is run as root. This command runs the GRUB 2 configuration scripts and updates the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file.
[18:17] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[18:18] <OerHeks> so please do not edit that file, it has a warning included also.
[18:18] <sdmw> Hi folks :) Anyone to help me pls? Today i`m install Ubuntu 11.04, but not impossible to install none application or program ]; "E: Unable to locate package "
[18:19] <OerHeks> sdmw, 11.04 is EOL end of life
[18:19] <OerHeks> !11.04
[18:19] <Richturd> Hows ubuntu these days
[18:20] <OerHeks> sdmw, update servers are empty, but !eolugrade has a solution if you really want to
[18:20] <sdmw> OerHeks: i don`t want diferent version or upgrade
[18:20] <OerHeks> sdmw, oke, just add old-releases >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Requirements
[18:21] <sdmw> Gnome version for 13.04 or etc... not good. sorry for my english
[18:21] <sdmw> ot tnx OerHeks
[18:21] <OerHeks> sdmw, but then you are on your own, no guarantees.
[18:22] <OerHeks> Richturd, try it.
[18:24] <Richturd> OerHeks, is it a good idea to dual boot when I'm running windows to run both windows and ubuntu
[18:25] <rypervenche> Richturd: Sure.
[18:25] <OerHeks> Richturd, sure, the real experience. you can test it in live mode too, just burn the iso or use an usb-device.
[18:25] <k1l> rcmaehl_ghoster: syslog or dmesg in /var/log
[18:25] <rcmaehl_ghoster> k1l, thanks
[18:25] <Richturd> I'm running a PC desktop with 2 gigs of ram and 160 GB of HDD so I'm looking to upgrade the ram and disk space
[18:26] <Richturd> when I do that, Id like to maybe dual boot
[18:26] <k1l> rcmaehl_ghoster: if its after a reboot take a look at the syslog.0 or dmesg.0 they are from last boot
[18:26] <OerHeks> 2 Gb is fine, more important is your Videocard and CPU, duocore would be great.
[18:28] <Richturd> my GPU was top tits back 4 years ago
[18:28] <Richturd> my CPU is a intel Quad processor
[18:28] <Richturd> Q8300
[18:28] <rcmaehl> k1l, found something
[18:28] <rcmaehl> Jul 20 14:06:04 Netbook-Two pulseaudio[10921]: [pulseaudio] hook-list.c: Assertion 'hook->n_firing == 0' failed at pulsecore/hook-list.c:51, $
[18:28] <rypervenche> Richturd: I'm running Gentoo on an EeePC with 2 G of RAM and an Atom processor. It can handle both operating systems just fine :)
[18:28] <drow-ubvm_> now gpu cpu chip is dorito
[18:29] <rypervenche> Richturd: The little thing is about 4+ years old as well.
[18:29] <Richturd> whats Gentoo?
[18:29] <Richturd> is that Linux
[18:30] <OerHeks> there are more desktops than ubuntu/unity, Lubuntu (LXDE) is the lightest, then midrange would be xubuntu (XFCE)
[18:30] <OerHeks> gentoo is an other distro, also based on the linux kernel
[18:31] <Richturd> which OS other than Windows and Mac is there out there
[18:31] <SonikkuAmerica> !distro
[18:31] <OerHeks> thnx SonikkuAmerica :-D
[18:31] <k1l> Richturd: alot. bot that is too much for ubunut support channel
[18:31] <heinrich5991> !bsd
[18:31] <SonikkuAmerica> OerHeks: Always glad to tag-team. :D
[18:31] <rypervenche> heinrich5991: No love for you :(
[18:31] <Richturd> I'm thinking of going with 8 gigs of ram and 1 TB of HDD
[18:32] <Richturd> I'd like to keep the GPU and CPU
[18:32] <k1l> Richturd: that is fine for dualboot
[18:32] <sfan5> can I use my android phone as 3G modem with Ubuntu? (tethering is not an option)
[18:32] <k1l> Richturd: which video card is it?
[18:32] <Richturd> GeForce Nvidea 9800 GTX, kll
[18:33] <k1l> Richturd: well, nvidia geforce should work with the nvidia-current driver. that is easy to test with a live-cd/usb
[18:34] <Richturd> kll, speak english please
[18:34] <Richturd> put it in lamens
[18:34] <rypervenche> Richturd: It should worl just fine.
[18:35] <Richturd> I can play GTA IV and FarCry 2 at the highest settings
[18:35] <Richturd> is that good
[18:35] <Richturd> now I cant game though cuz I aint got any space on my hdd
[18:37] <brontosaurusrex> Richturd, iam pretty sure windows have some sort of "delete" option
[18:38] <Richturd> why are you being a smart ass
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> was there a support question in all this somewhere?
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> sfan5,  you mean over a usb cable?
[18:39] <k1l> Dr_Willis: nope. just a troll. known to bantracker
[18:40] <sfan5> Dr_Willis: yes
[18:40] <Dr_Willis> sfan5,  network manager has settings for the i recall. I just use the hotspot feature mainly here.
[18:41] <sfan5> Dr_Willis: but can I use it with the "mobile broadband" option?
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> thats the option to use i belive.
[18:45] <marcolondonuk> I am no Ubuntu expert. I just managed to install 12.04 on HDD from USB live but booting is very slow and also in some cases I get all purple screen unless I press SHIFT (right) to access GRUB, in which case I am able to book ok, but still after a wait of say 4-5 minutes! I tried to check if anything is wrong with the boot by installing bootchart. The png file for that is here http://oi42.tinypic.com/2j5x4iu.jpg however I have no
[18:46] <SonikkuAmerica> marcolondonuk: Can you finish?
[18:48] <sfan5> Dr_Willis: it doesn't show my device as modem there
[18:48] <marcolondonuk> Yes, sorry, I meant what clues is that bootchart files giving me to determine where the bottleneck is and how to fix it?
[18:48] <Dr_Willis> could be its an unsupported phone sfan5  - You may want to check the excte make/model on the forums and askubuntu.com
[18:49]  * sfan5 has Samsung Galaxy Ace with 2.3.6
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> you may also want to ask in #android
[18:50] <Naphatul> can someone explain the "runlevel" on upstart scripts?
[18:50] <Dr_Willis> i thought it was for backward compatabilty with the old sysv method.
[18:51] <Dr_Willis> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[18:51] <Naphatul> well it's on the "Writing services" part of the wii
[18:51] <Naphatul> *wiki
[18:51] <Dr_Willis> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#runlevels
[18:52] <genii> I'm amused to see upstart and runlevels in the same line
[18:53] <h341y> #join
[18:54] <Naphatul> well i have no idea, i just want to start a program on system boot and that's where i ended up, systemd seems a lot simpler
[18:54] <h341y> #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:55] <saiarcot895> h341y: try /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:57] <Naphatul> well i'm getting this error: http://pastebin.com/HHJdFDXB
[18:57] <Naphatul> and this is the script: http://pastebin.com/VrxvvJxY  , it's in /etc/init/
[19:00] <marcolondonuk> I am no Ubuntu expert. I just managed to install 12.04 on HDD from USB live but booting is very slow and also in some cases I get all purple screen unless I press SHIFT (right) to access GRUB, in which case I am able to book ok, but still after a wait of say 4-5 minutes! I tried to check if anything is wrong with the boot by installing bootchart. The png file for that is here http://oi42.tinypic.com/2j5x4iu.jpg however I have no
[19:01] <saiarcot895> Naphatul: typically, you place the script in /etc/init.d
[19:01] <saiarcot895> Naphatul: /etc/init is for configuration files
[19:02] <Naphatul> saiarcot895: i just did the writing services part here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto
[19:02] <Naphatul> do i need to place a separate script in /etc/init.d ?
[19:03] <saiarcot895> Naphatul: scratch what I said; I was thinking about init.d stuff
[19:04] <cachacahita> hello everybody
[19:04] <Naphatul> marcolondonuk: i can't see anything on that image, perhaps upload the png bootchart generates?
[19:04] <cachacahita> I need help
[19:05] <cachacahita> I can t use the Fn +F8 and Fn +F9 to decrease increase the brightness
[19:05] <Okitain> cachacahita: here, there is a guide for you:
[19:05] <cachacahita> my video card is intel hd4000
[19:06] <saiarcot895> Naphatul: it's "inadyn start", not "start inadyn"
[19:06] <Okitain> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight
[19:06] <warrior2031> hi
[19:06] <warrior2031> can anyone help me with PPPoE?
[19:09] <cachacahita> ok Okitain
[19:09] <cachacahita> I will read the information
[19:09] <marcolondonuk> Naphatul: Hello you only need to click on the link to see the png generated image
[19:12] <das3in> Hi all, I was wondering if anyone could recommend a laptop to me. Something comperable to a macbook pro that i'd use for web development, i just prefer ubuntu to os x
[19:14] <subcool> any old schoolers here can tell me what arcade game Pacific rim is based off of
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> das3in, preferring ubuntu and polling for info is off topic
[19:15] <Slacko786> subcool, is it defo based off an arcade game?
[19:15] <subcool> defo?
[19:15] <Slacko786> definately
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> das3in, However there are ubuntu certified computers look for the wiki.
[19:15] <subcool> heck yea
[19:15] <subcool> i use to play it as a kid
[19:16] <Slacko786> maybe a cartoon?
[19:16] <DJones> !ot | subcool Slacko786
[19:16] <subcool> blah
[19:16] <Slacko786> transformers I was thinking of...?
[19:16] <subcool> nope an old school arcade game.
[19:16] <Slacko786> ok
[19:16] <subcool> im 30, so before i was 10.
[19:16] <Naphatul> phone battery went out, thanks
[19:17] <Slacko786> I don't remember any games similar (that doesn't mean there is none) but I'm 44
[19:17] <subcool> you could pick a robot to be, and then a few lil sea monster would come and destroy a city. you could basically do wrestling moves on them. throw building at them. it was really cool
[19:17] <DJones> subcool: Please move the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is for Ubuntu support questions
[19:17] <Dr_Willis> !info mame
[19:17] <Slacko786> ok thx DJones
[19:18] <subcool> Thanks Dr_Willis  - ill see if one of those still have it.
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> if its an old arcade game.. mame most likely can do it.
[19:19] <Slacko786> is Djones a bot?
[19:19] <Naphatul> now i'm getting another error: W:INADYN: Main: Error 'RC_CMD_PARSER_INVALID_OPTION' (0x50).
[19:19] <DJones> Slacko786: Nope
[19:19] <Slacko786> oh ok :)
[19:19] <subcool> no- just an @
[19:20] <Naphatul> i ran the program standalone and it worked so i'm pretty sure it's something wrong with the script
[19:22] <Okitain> subcool: It's not directly based on anything, but I think the idea of a kaiju versus robot is quite easy to think of.
[19:25] <subcool> its based off an old school game.
[19:25] <Naphatul> anyone? the script in question: http://pastebin.com/VrxvvJxY
[19:26] <subcool> i use to play it when iw as a kid.. i was pretty good too. im on my way of fniding it-
[19:30] <Ampelbein> Naphatul: Where did you put the config file for inadyn?
[19:30] <Naphatul> Ampelbein: in /etc, when i run inadyn alone it doesn't give me any errors, the upstart script is in /etc/init
[19:32] <Dr_Willis> upstart script may be using 'sh' and not bash, and may not have the same default path, or other variables your shell is using.
[19:33] <subcool> FOunf it- King of the MOnsters
[19:34] <Naphatul> Dr_Willis: i'm not sure what you're getting at
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> Naphatul,   check your shell settings and paths.
[19:34] <Naphatul> oh wait, should i have made the script executable?
[19:35] <Ampelbein> Naphatul: No.
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> if you are executeing it directly, yes.  and have a proper #!/whatver/bash  line
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> but im not clear on what you are starting/how/where.  I do know people often have issues with BASH in their shell vs the shell the services use due to paths and other variables
[19:35] <Ampelbein> Dr_Willis: Upstart files are not shell scripts.
[19:35] <Naphatul> i still don't know what i'm supposed to be looking at my shell settings for, i didn't put anything specific there
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> Ampelbein,  then how did he run it 'stand alone' ?
[19:36] <Ampelbein> Naphatul: Have you tried passing the --input_file parameter in the upstart script?
[19:36] <Ampelbein> Dr_Willis: Presumably by starting inadyn directly.
[19:39] <Naphatul> Ampelbein: no, what does that do?
[19:39] <Naphatul> this is weird google is telling me that the error is related to inadyn but when i run it standalone the logs say it's working fine
[19:39] <Ampelbein> Naphatul: It specifies the config file to use directly. I.e.: exec /usr/sbin/inadyn --imput_file /etc/inadyn.conf
[19:40] <Ampelbein> s/sim/in/
[19:40] <Ampelbein>  exec /usr/sbin/inadyn --input_file /etc/inadyn.conf
[19:41] <Naphatul> tried adding that still nothing
[19:42] <Naphatul> apparently i missed the first error: W:INADYN:CMD_LINE_OPT: Invalid option name at position 2 ('start')
[19:45] <Ampelbein> Naphatul: my bad. Apparently that option call was changed. Let me check.
[19:45] <samosfator> Hello
[19:47] <Ampelbein> Naphatul: well, the command was changed somewhere between precise and saucy. In the latter versions it's simply "--config /etc/inadyn.conf"
[19:49] <Naphatul> Ampelbein: still getting the same error, perhaps there is something wrong with my config file that doesn't work when invoked like that: http://pastebin.com/xv9Cr9hw
[19:50] <Naphatul> thought i find it very weird that it works fine when just using it normally
[19:51] <Ampelbein> Naphatul: Yeah, that's why I suspected inadyn uses some different file for startup. You could add "verbose 5" for maximum logging and see if that turns stuff up in the syslog.
[19:55] <Naphatul> it updates fine i get a W message but the HTTP code in it says OK
[19:56] <xrandr> Hello, is there a way to get a secure token for Ubuntu One so I can connect to it via another cloud ?
[19:56] <Ampelbein> Naphatul: Wait, so it works after setting "verbose"? That's... unexpected.
[19:57] <nga> Download Vietnam Rising Dragon ebook
[19:57] <Ampelbein> nga: http://www.amazon.com/Vietnam-Rising-Dragon-ebook/dp/B004UDV0XY
[19:57] <DJones> nga: THis is Ubuntu support, looks like you have the wrong channel
[19:57] <Naphatul> Ampelbein: no no, upstart still gives the same error
[19:58] <Ampelbein> Naphatul: Is anything else meaningful in /var/log/upstart/inadyn.log? Or in syslog?
[20:00] <Ampelbein> Naphatul: you might have to add "console log" to the inadyn upstart script.
[20:00] <Naphatul> Ampelbein: it makes no entries to syslog (when i try to run it with upstart), and i don't see a /var/log/upstart/ entry
[20:01] <Naphatul> so i just add "console log" at the start of the script?
[20:02] <Ampelbein> yes
[20:02] <Naphatul> nothing :(
[20:03] <trism> Naphatul: you aren't accidentally passing the upstart script as the config file are you?
[20:04] <joshlegs> :( hm. ubuntu forums got hacked ?/
[20:04] <Naphatul> trism: i'm not sure what you mean, the wiki said i need to make a config file in /etc/init , thats the only thing i did
[20:04] <Naphatul> i didn't mention i needed to do other things
[20:05] <joshlegs> www.ubuntuforums.org
[20:06] <trism> Naphatul: it is just that I see earlier you are exec inadyn --config /path; but the config error complains about 'start' being an invalid option, which would be one of the first stanzas in the upstart conf
[20:06] <k1l> joshlegs: yes, discussion please in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:06] <joshlegs> ahhh thanks k1l
[20:06] <trism> Naphatul: so I was just wondering if /etc/inadyn.conf was the upstart script and not the config file for inadyn
[20:07] <Naphatul> trism: nope, inadyns config is in /etc/ and the upstart script in /etc/init, just checked again
[20:10] <form4> does ubuntu touch have support for the iPad?
[20:10] <trism> Naphatul: maybe if you pastebin both the upstart job and the config file someone might see the error? (I don't see them in the scrollback)
[20:10] <form4> if it were to be jailbroken
[20:10] <k1l> form4: #ubuntu-touch is the right channel but i doubt it will run on apple hardware
[20:10] <form4> ;/
[20:11] <reisio> form4: more to it than jailbreaking for most tablets
[20:11] <Naphatul> upstart script: http://pastebin.com/e8GsMyna, inadyn config: http://pastebin.com/xv9Cr9hw
[20:11] <gamb_s> Im in troubles... I installed windows with ubuntu. I had to shrink the ext4 partition with gparted
[20:11] <reisio> form4: most tablets use secure boot keys
[20:11] <gamb_s> now it says ,, general errors monting filesystems,,
[20:12] <gamb_s> i rebuilt grub using bootrepair
[20:12] <gamb_s> can someone help me?
[20:13] <wormwood> greetings all, aside from enabling ip_forward how can I get my network (10.1.10.0/24) to see virbr0 ip range (192.168.122.0/24)? Running kvm/qemu and having vm instances join the virbr0 bridge. I can ping 192.168.122.1 but can't ping other address in the 192.168.122.0/24 network
[20:14] <wilee-nilee> gamb_s, post the url of the bootinfo summary
[20:14] <gamb_s> wilee-nilee: ok, Ill try to get one
[20:14] <Naphatul> trism: didi you see the scripts?
[20:14] <Ampelbein> Naphatul: I just used that init script on a ubuntu precise installation and it worked.
[20:14] <wilee-nilee> gamb_s, You can run just it.
[20:14] <Ampelbein> Naphatul: what ubuntu version are you using?
[20:15] <Naphatul> Ampelbein: ehm, i'm running lubuntu, doesn't that use upstart aswell?
[20:15] <Ampelbein> Naphatul: doesn't matter.
[20:15] <gamb_s> wilee-nilee: Its currently running with "fix filesystems" options. i have to wait for finish now right?
[20:16] <Ampelbein> Naphatul: What version is it? (12.04, 12.10, 13.04)?
[20:16] <Naphatul> Ampelbein: 13.04
[20:16] <wilee-nilee> gamb_s, It will have a popup with the address
[20:17] <hector_> i'm outdated when it comes to linux, specially ubuntu. now that i'm back i've heard nvidia has released drivers with optimus support and that we don't need bumblebee anymore. i'm trying to get the latest driver through "software & updates" > "additional drivers" but there's nothing shown there. 670m here.
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> hector_, Is there problem other than no driver shown?
[20:18] <Ampelbein> Naphatul: When you start inadyn (sudo service inadyn start), does it say anything else besides giving the error?
[20:19] <hector_> wilee-nilee: not that i'm aware of, but since there's nothing displayed there i cannot get the driver.
[20:19] <Naphatul> Ampelbein: well with the correct way of running it, now it doesn't
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> hector_, I'm not familiar with optimus, I just wonder if you are fine, the drivers needed are loaded.
[20:20] <Ampelbein> Naphatul: How did you start it before?
[20:20] <hector_> wilee-nilee: currently it says that i'm using the onboard video card from intel, funny fact is that it acts like i don't own the nvidia card because it shows absolutely nothing at the additional drivers.
[20:20] <Naphatul> Ampelbein: well somewhere along the lines i forgot to write service and i've been going up arrow enter the whole time
[20:20] <yusdo> hi is there someone that use piklab for pic microcontroller development?
[20:21] <Ampelbein> Naphatul: he.
[20:21] <Naphatul> so no wonder it's complaining i'm trying to pass "start" as a parameter to it
[20:21] <iceroot> hector_: there is no additional driver for optimus
[20:21] <sarthor> Hi, How to chnage writing font in browers using latest ubuntu.
[20:21] <Naphatul> hah well that was idiotic
[20:21] <Ampelbein> Naphatul: Well, problem solved I guess ;-) (Better reboot and see if it truely works).
[20:22] <iceroot> hector_: nvidia is not offering such driver, so you have to use bumblebee to use the nvidia card as you whish, bumblebee is a wrapper for the x-server to manage intel cards (with open source driver) and the nvidia driver (non free driver directly from nvidia)
[20:22] <hector_> iceroot: basically what you're saying is that a fresh install of 13.04 comes with the latest nvidia drivers? including the one that ships with optimus support? i'm a little confused as of now.
[20:22] <gamb_s> wilee-nilee: it has been running now for around 20 minutes, is it right?
[20:22] <Naphatul> yep i'll go do a reboot, brb
[20:22] <hector_> iceroot: wow, are you sure nvidia isn't offering optimus support? multiple sources say so.
[20:22] <iceroot> hector_: google "linus torvalds nvidia f*ck you"
[20:23] <iceroot> hector_: i am not aware of a driver which is switching between intel and nvidia
[20:23] <hector_> iceroot: i know that but nvidia dropped optimus support due to steam support to linux.
[20:24] <iceroot> hector_: the main problem is the kernel-licence because they need to access some areas where non-free is not allowed
[20:24] <iceroot> hector_: nvidia is offering a driver for the nvidia part of optimus, yes. but optimus means "switch between these two cards and only use the nvidia card when needed"
[20:24] <hector_> iceroot: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/13/04/09/2246207/nvidia-releases-optimus-linux-driver-with-new-features
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> gamb_s, should finish much sooner, you had it running when you first posted?
[20:25] <noob7> hey, does someone use gdb for debugging and can tell if I need ulimit -c unlimited to get a backtrace/stacktrace
[20:25] <iceroot> hector_: ah ok but i am not sure if that driver is supporting the real-time switiching but good to know and thank you for that info
[20:25] <noob7> or can I get a backtrace without doing "ulimit -c unlimited"
[20:26] <gamb_s> wilee-nilee: yeah, i decided to ask help when it was already running. I made it running with check filesystems and fix maybe that has slowed this much?
[20:26] <k1l> hector_: "that basically allows for Optimus-like functionality " that doesnt sound like: here you have a 100% working optimus
[20:26] <pZombie1> hello friends
[20:26] <k1l> hector_: im not aware of a working optimus like in the windows drivers.
[20:26] <iceroot> k1l: bumblebee
[20:26] <pZombie1> I think my computer has a system management rootkit on it. I run ubuntu. Can you tell me how to remove it?
[20:27] <reisio> k1l: you're not aware of much, then :)
[20:27] <iceroot> pZombie1: why do you think that?
[20:27] <reisio> pZombie1: backup, reinstall
[20:27] <k1l> iceroot: besides bumblebee :)
[20:27] <wilee-nilee> gamb_s, I'm only sightly familiar with it I never use it, except to get the bootscript from others, it seems to help many, however, all it does can be done in a terminal.
[20:27] <reisio> pZombie1: use AIDE/etc. in future to avoid reinstallation
[20:27] <k1l> but bumblebee doesnt work as the windows driver, it cant shut the nvidia card down it just can switch between both running
[20:27] <pZombie1> reisio reinstall will remove the system management rootkit from my computer?
[20:27] <gamb_s> wilee-nilee: is it safe to interrupt it?
[20:28] <hector_> k1l: even if we assume that there's no optimus fully support at the present moment it won't help me to be honest. additional drivers won't recognize that i own a nvidia card so it's not giving me any driver to download.
[20:28] <reisio> pZombie1: if it lives on the hard disk, yes
[20:28] <hector_> my only choice is to download the driver straight from nvidia's website and install it manually myself, k1l.
[20:28] <pZombie1> reisio - someone told me i need a hammer to remove it
[20:28] <reisio> pZombie1: nah
[20:28] <Naphatul> well it says inadyn is running but not seeing the syslog messages
[20:28] <k1l> hector_: why dont you work with the bumblebee howtos?
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> gamb_s, Not sure, at this point, I did not know it had a check file systems options.
[20:29] <pZombie1> reisio are you sure SMM rootkits live on the HDD?
[20:29] <hector_> k1l: because in the ubuntu's wiki it tells you do go through the additional drivers thing.
[20:29] <reisio> pZombie1: smm is meaningless AFAIK, either it lives on the hard disk or it doesn't
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> hector_, If you use nvidia's driver you will have to mess with it on every kernel update.
[20:30] <Estrobeda> hello, i have tried alot to find a place to buy a computer with ubuntu preinstalled, but i cant find any. I have searched for asus, acer lenovo and places like linux paradise or something (here i do find the computers but i don't understand the specs) do someone have any suggestions?
[20:30] <reisio> pZombie1: if it lives on the hard disk, replacing all the data on the hard disk will remove it
[20:30] <hector_> k1l: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve#NVIDIA_Graphics
[20:30] <pZombie1> reisio - someone told me it lives on the motherboard firmware
[20:30] <reisio> Estrobeda: dell sells a few
[20:30] <Guest44705> Hi, I've used Xubuntu 12.04 for maybe the past four months, and I have been getting a black screen saying, "press any key to continue" after start up. Pressing any key doesn't work, so I have to wait quite awhile for the Xubuntu to pop up and then another while for the log in screen to pop up. I read on Ubuntu help that there could be an error and how to fix it by getting into the Grub menu and then some then some grub commands in th
[20:30] <Guest44705> e terminal. But after I had gone to the grub menu before logging in, it said that I had an error that reads, "hd0 out of disk". The delay when starting the computer with "press any key to continue" is a new thing just recently. What should I do?
[20:30] <reisio> Estrobeda: system 76 sells some more
[20:30] <hector_> the problem there is that my additional drivers won't detect anything.
[20:30] <k1l> hector_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[20:30] <k1l> where does it say that?
[20:30] <Estrobeda> ok thx alot i will check them out =D
[20:31] <gamb_s> cupsd, pkill and pidof are using 100/100 cpu
[20:31] <gamb_s> is it normal?
[20:31] <hector_> k1l: but i'd like to know why my software & updates won't detect anything like in the image shown to you at this site https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve#NVIDIA_Graphics
[20:31] <reisio> pZombie1: if it lives on firmware, you'd have to wipe or replace that
[20:31] <wilee-nilee> Estrobeda, https://www.system76.com/  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuPre-installed
[20:31] <reisio> pZombie1: or cease to use it, etc.
[20:32] <k1l> hector_: see the link i gave you
[20:32] <k1l> hector_: my link is the bumblebee howto.
[20:32] <hector_> k1l: i'm going to go ahead and use bumblebee but it doesn't answer to my question, i really want to know why my software & updates won't detect stuff that it should.
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> Estrobeda, I would be careful with a pre-install ubuntu, you may not get support here, just saying.
[20:32] <k1l> hector_: because there is no nvidia driver for real optimus it only runs on the intel card and doesnt find the drivers for the nvidia.
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> should rootkits worry me? what are signs of the presence of one?
[20:32] <Daughain> Where can I find some help with scratchbox2?
[20:33] <hector_> k1l: ok.
[20:33] <Estrobeda> ok
[20:33] <k1l> hector_: blame nvidia for not bringing the drivers properly.
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> Estrobeda, sytem76 though has a section at the now hacked ubuntu forums, lol
[20:34] <reisio> MonkeyDust: your credit cards and bank information being used
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> I would go system76 if I were to get a pre-install myself, a bit overpriced, but supported.
[20:35] <gamb_s> wilee-nilee: it seems like my grub config is quite empty bootinfo is coming btw
[20:35] <reisio> MonkeyDust: if you use only software built by the distro maintainers, and keep up to date, they're pretty unlikely
[20:35] <reisio> MonkeyDust: if you're truly concerned, though, just install something like AIDE after you install
[20:35] <gamb_s> also, could uefi be a problem?
[20:35] <gamb_s> I tried to disable it
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> reisio  i'm not paranoid, just curious
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> gamb_s, That will cause problems was this a uefi to begin with or you installed that way with both OS?
[20:36] <gamb_s> wilee-nilee: I installed both oses with uefi disabled
[20:36] <gamb_s> i think its disabled...
[20:36] <gamb_s> wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5895253/
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> gamb_s, Is it a safeboot computer?
[20:37] <reisio> MonkeyDust: well I didn't give you more information because I thought you weren't curious...
[20:38] <gamb_s> wilee-nilee: extended also should be the swap... maybe i could try recreating swap? I dont know. is there a way to know if it is?
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> gamb_s, That is mint, it is not supported here, however I see no uefi. Honestly windows should be in sda1, and linux afterward for ease of use.
[20:40] <gazhead> forum haxed?
[20:40] <zacktu> I have a Canon PIXMA printer that works great as a network printer on one computer (Ubuntu 12.04).  I'm trying to add it to another computer (Xubuntu 12.04).   I've installed cups-bjnp on the second computer, and the printer has been discovered.  When I try to print a test page, I'm told that I need to set the "Enabled" policy.  I check enabled, but as soon as I try to use the printer the...
[20:40] <zacktu> ...enabled setting is unchecked.  Any suggestions?
[20:41] <Guest44705> Nobody is answering here. I feel like making a clean burn of Xubuntu on a CD and sticking it in my computer for a clean install. What do you think?
[20:41] <reisio> Guest44705: sounds like a decent way to install Xubuntu
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> gamb_s, For best use I would clone mint with clonezilla and wipe the drive install windows in sda1 and insert mint afterwards. Not sure why it is not booting, it basically looks as it should.
[20:42] <gazhead> UBUNTU FORUM HACKED
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> Guest44705  fresh install is the fastest, easiest and cleanest way to install
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> probably a file system prob maybe a fsck is needed
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> gazhead  no caps, please
[20:42] <gamb_s> wilee-nilee: also, fs is mounted in readonly then, and all files are there. Strange
[20:43] <Guest44705> I just am having trouble turning on my computer and waiting to find a black screen that says, "press any key to continue" and waiting again for "Xubuntu" and waiting again for the log in screen. Didn't have to do that before.
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> gamb_s, You might consider getting out what you need from mint and just doing a fresh install of ubuntu after loading windows to the first partition, or partitions if you want the ms boot partition.
[20:44] <Guest44705> So, you think a clean install is the ticket/
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> gamb_s, Better more support with ubuntu is all.
[20:46] <Guest44705> Can I make a clean install right off the internet without the burned CD that I stick in the computer?
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> Guest44705, If you have grub you can boot a mini iso and do a netload or a regular live session
[20:48] <Guest44705> So, what do you mean? I have Xubuntu and grub I think. I was just in the Grub menu by pressing shift after the Bio when starting up.
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> Guest44705, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> Guest44705, Having a disc or usb is about your best tool though.
[20:50] <Guest44705> Thanks!
[20:51] <joshu_> us http://ubuntuforums.org down?
[20:51] <joshu_> *is
[20:51] <k1l> joshu_: yes
[20:51] <hot6l> just went to ubuntu forums and came across a very strange thing
[20:51] <wilee-nilee> joshu_, #ubuntuforums is the best info
[20:51] <joshu_> k1l ok thanks
[20:51] <hot6l> "you don goofed" with mention of rootkit
[20:52] <hot6l> and some base64 encoded img
[20:52] <k1l> hot6l: #ubuntuforums
[20:52] <hot6l> kk
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> joshu_  yes, ubuntuforums is down, just checked
[20:52] <joshu_> thanks MonkeyDust
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> joshu_  http://downorisitjustme.com/
[20:54] <joshu_> MonkeyDust on #ubuntuforums seems as if it's a hack attack or something
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> joshu_  the website maintainers will take care of it, if it is
[20:54] <k1l> joshu_: yes. but that is not our business in here. this is an ubuntu support channel, not a ubuntuforums support channel :)
[20:55] <joshu_> k1l sure was just replying to the conversation. Will just wait it out.
[20:55] <sabayonweb3295> i was wondering is there a website that explains how modprobing is possible. I know how to use modprobe but i really want a deeper understanding and all i can seem to find is websites on the usage of the commnd.
[20:55] <econdudeawesome> howdy all. Having a hard time getting 12.04 to recognize I plugged in a printer. USB ports work fine it appears, I've tried numerous cables. What to do now?!?
[20:56] <jhutchins> sabayonweb3295: Might be something at kernel.org
[20:56] <sabayonweb3295> jhutchins: ok ill look there :D ty
[20:57] <gaz1310> *cough*
[20:57] <gaz1310> *snif*
[20:58] <gaz1310> ok peeps
[20:58] <gaz1310> forum fuked?
[20:58] <grasu64> or how can I understand the root cause, i have no clue where it halts
[20:59] <k1l> gaz1310: #ubuntuforums
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> gaz1310  yes, the website maintainers will take care of it
[21:02] <Seegee> Does anyone know Joobz?
[21:02] <Seegee> Or somene with the name like that..
[21:09] <DWSR> Hi there, I'm stuck in a loop with fsck constantly telling me that my root disk has errors, even though it keeps also telling me it's fixed them
[21:09] <DWSR> After I reboot, it complains about similar errors as the previous iteration, fixes them upon prompt, and then asks for a reboot.
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> DWSR, Have you checked the smart check onboard on the HD?
[21:10] <DWSR> wilee-nilee: It's a USB flash stick, I doubt SMART works.
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> DWSR, This a live load or an iso?
[21:11] <DWSR> livwe
[21:11] <DWSR> live*
[21:12] <DWSR> I installed it to there because it was the only disk that I had at the time.
[21:12] <wilee-nilee> DWSR, Those have a life time if you are persistent, thew casper-rw will fill up.
[21:12] <wilee-nilee> the*
[21:12] <DWSR> wilee-nilee: It's not a liveUSB. It's a full install of Ubuntu to a USB stick.
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> DWSR, Not sure really, I think you can mess with fstab and stop the fsck though.
[21:14] <DWSR> wilee-nilee: That doesn't help, unfortunately. There keeps being disk errors detected, and the disk keeps being remounted ro.
[21:14] <DWSR> I have a psare SATA drive.
[21:14] <DWSR> spare* now.
[21:19] <hector> k1l: i've sucessfully installed bumblebee, now i've followed another guide to get the primus installed and unfortunatelly i've followed an outdated guide which uses another repository than the official bumblebee's one because at first primus wasnt there. it is said that if i want to get the primus from the bumblebee repository i have to purge the old primus stuff.
[21:19] <hector> k1l: is it just a matter of use sudo apt-get purge primus *? don't i need to remove the old repository either?
[21:20] <DWSR> hector: You will have to remove it afterwards from your repository lists, then sudo apt-get update as well.
[21:20] <DWSR> Otherwise your system will still think the packages are available from the old source.
[21:21] <crankharder> i've got php-fpm installed and running, but there's no socket in /var/run for me to point nginx at.... any ideas why?
[21:21] <DWSR> crankharder: Is it configured to provide a socket there?
[21:21] <DWSR> check php.ini
[21:21] <hector> DWSR: basically first i purge all the primus stuff then i remove the old repository or the opposite?
[21:22] <DWSR> hector: It shouldn't actually matter.
[21:22] <DWSR> hector: But I would purge first.
[21:22] <Dr_Willis> !ppa-purge
[21:22] <hector> DWSR: thank you.
[21:23] <DWSR> Dr_Willis: Suggestion for my problem? I'm having issues with a Ubuntu install on a USB flash stick (not a LiveUSB) that keeps fscking in a loop and now won't boot due to kpanic.
[21:25] <hector> DWSR: is there a command to remove a repository just like the one you use to add?
[21:26] <DWSR> hector: See the factoid Dr_Willis linked you. There isn't a builtin for it, but there is a utility built around that idea.
[21:26] <hector> ok.
[21:26] <milothebuthar> Can anyone please take a look at this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5895364/ --- I have execution permission, but the console is telling me I don't have permission to execute...
[21:28] <DWSR> milothebuthar: Do you have execute perms on the directory that that binary is contained in?
[21:31] <milothebuthar> DWSR: yep..
[21:31] <k1l> !ppa-purge | hector
[21:31] <DWSR> milothebuthar: Can't help you
[21:31] <DWSR> milothebuthar: Wouldn't know where to start.
[21:31] <k1l> that is the best way to get rid of a PPA and the packages from that ppa
[21:31] <DWSR> k1l: Suggestion for my problem? I'm having issues with a Ubuntu install on a USB flash stick (not a LiveUSB) that keeps fscking in a loop and now won't boot due to kpanic.
[21:32] <k1l> hector: well, saw now ppa-purge was already suggested :)
[21:32] <k1l> DWSR: usb flash sticks just die from time to time
[21:33] <DWSR> k1l: Yeah, should I use another LiveUSB to copy everything down onto a SATA drive?
[21:33] <DWSR> I didn't have a spare disk at the time I did the installation, but I do now.
[21:33] <milothebuthar> DWSR: ok, how about another issue. I have a c++ application who is crashing... its core dumping, but the core file is "incomplete". The limits for the core file size where already set to unlimited and there is enough space in the hard drive... any ideas?
[21:34] <DWSR> milothebuthar: Not really my area of expertise.
[21:34] <DWSR> milothebuthar: Sorry
[21:34] <k1l> DWSR: yes, i would try to save as much as possible from that stick (if it contains data you need). maybe you need ddrescue or such
[21:34] <holstein> DWSR: have you tried booting an older kernel?
[21:35] <MonkeyDust> milothebuthar  430+ people in ##c++
[21:38] <Vasian> HELLO UBUNTU WORLD!
[21:38] <rslarson> anyone familiar with the screen utility?
[21:39] <Vasian> anyone know how to get netflix working on ubuntu?
[21:39] <ZaW> sup sup sup!?!?
[21:39] <Vasian> ANYONE?!?!
[21:39] <holstein> rslarson: yes
[21:39] <holstein> !netflix | Vasian
[21:39] <ZaW> gotta question...shit..i feel like a douche for coming on IRC to ask this..but is there a gui app to control my PC's fan speeds?
[21:39] <rslarson> is it possible to turn on multiuser support while creating a new screen?
[21:40] <Vasian> oooo thank you holstein!
[21:40] <holstein> !language | ZaW
[21:40] <ZaW> that is the only thing killing it for me to use Ubuntu 100%
[21:40] <ontheroadagain> http://www.twitch.tv/lolkevv
[21:40] <ontheroadagain> watch my friend please :)
[21:40] <ZaW> sorry
[21:40] <ZaW> wow.. ok.
[21:41] <ZaW> so back to my question...anyone know of a GUI app to control my PC fans?
[21:41] <ZaW> they blast so fast it is very noisy and annoying
[21:42] <rslarson> I am running a ts3 which starts during bootup and as of right now I have to login to a particular user in order to view the console.  I would likle to be able to just login as myself and change to that screen
[21:42] <rslarson> *teamspeak3 server
[21:43] <Ampelbein> ZaW: bug 273187 - But there are some console-tools in the archive for doing that.
[21:43] <zipy> hey, when i am playing a video in vlc, how can i stream it in another format
[21:43] <Dr_Willis> rslarson,  you mean on the actual consoles?
[21:43] <Dr_Willis> rslarson,  alt-ctrl-f1 and so forth?
[21:44] <rslarson> not quite
[21:44] <rslarson> I can only accessd the physical machine via ssh so I use the screen comand to create multiple terminals
[21:45] <rslarson> I use screen -dmS ts3 su gameserver -c /home/gameserver/other/ts3/ts3server_minimal_runscript.sh to start the service
[21:45] <wilee-nilee> ZaW, Have you installed lm-sensors, and checked if you may be running hot.
[21:45] <Zakair> please help me, how can I change the picture of my login background screen?
[21:46] <Zakair> how can I change the background image of my login screen?
[21:46] <k1l> Zakair: it uses the background from the users wallpaper, iirc
[21:47] <Zakair> k1l: no it does not
[21:47] <Zakair> k1l: I use netrunner linux
[21:47] <Zakair> how do I change it
[21:47] <ZaW> ill have to check that out next time I boot into Ubuntu
[21:48] <rslarson> Zakair: this is the Ubuntu channel
[21:48] <ZaW> im running my winblows for some BF3 and Space Marine
[21:48] <k1l> Zakair: well, this is ubuntu support.
[21:48] <Zakair> netrunner linux is based on ubuntu, and uses their repository
[21:48] <Zakair> you can think of netrunner as ubuntu without unity
[21:48] <k1l> Zakair: come back if you have a ubuntu issue. thanks
[21:49] <Zakair> ok thnx
[21:49] <rslarson> any ideass?
[21:55] <Dr_Willis> rslarson,  its not really clear on what your issue is.. you run screen, it runs your TS3 server as a specific user..  so the problem is?
[21:56] <rslarson> Dr_Willis: I have three admins who need to access that screen and they all have their own accounts on the server.  How would I turn multiuser support on while start the process
[21:56] <rslarson> if at all possible
[21:58] <Dr_Willis> screen allows multi connections from differnt people i recall
[21:59] <Dr_Willis> I dident even think you had to have somthing like that running to admin ts3.  I thought most of the work can be done from the ts3 clients
[21:59] <DarwinSurvivor> Dr_Willis: I don't know if you can do that from different user accounts though, I *think* they all have to be signed in as the same user.
[21:59] <rslarson> It does but as I understand it, I need to go to each screen and turn on multiuser support each time a screen is created
[21:59] <Dr_Willis> ive seen screen used as a 'several people connected to the same shell' i belive.
[21:59] <Dr_Willis> screen has config files and settings. or you may want to look into tmux
[22:00] <rslarson> Will do
[22:01] <Dr_Willis> sounds to me like you may be doing it the hard way. if you have 3 'people' all using the same admin account.
[22:01] <Dr_Willis> ts3 supports multi-admins
[22:01] <milothebuthar> DWSR, thanks for nothing :)
[22:01] <menturi> Hello :D. Is there a way to check what currently installed packages depend on a given specific package?
[22:02] <Ace[Laptop]> hey can anyone explain to me the difference between "Install" and "command line install" on the mini.iso?
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> one installs the standrd desktop perhaps. other does not. would be my guess
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> desktop vs server install.
[22:03] <Ace[Laptop]> Dr_Willis: mini.iso does not install server or desktop
[22:04] <brontosaurusrex> menturi, apt-get depends something ?
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> Ace[Laptop], Is does the base system is the server.
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> and other options if you want
[22:04] <brontosaurusrex> menturi, actually its apt-cache depends something
[22:05] <Ace[Laptop]> wilee-nilee: the server install includes different a different kernel compared to a minimal install
[22:05] <rslarson> I was just using ts3 as an examaple... I have about 4 other services that I would like to implement this idea on
[22:06] <Ace[Laptop]> looks like I'll just hvae to experiment, since of course, there's no documentaiton about any of this
[22:06] <Sicp> I have this partioning layout, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19390574/partitioning.png  and now I need to install Windows alongside
[22:06] <abirspacemonkey> Hey,guys,I m facing some problem in 12.04.2 LTS
[22:06] <Sicp> I cannot edit the partition where /boot is because I have to unmount it first, but that's the partition that's holding the OS
[22:06] <menturi> brontosaurusrex: thank you; I think that one was it.
[22:06] <Sicp> what can I do?
[22:07] <abirspacemonkey> I've a quite low end apu E-450 with Radeon HD 6320
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> Ace[Laptop], you may be right, I had seen like a 1000 times on this channel that the base is basically the/ server
[22:07] <abirspacemonkey> I've fglx-update and fglx-plugins intalled.
[22:07] <Sicp> ah, I can run gparted from the LiveCD to do what I need
[22:07] <Sicp> thanks anyways
[22:08] <abirspacemonkey> Hello?
[22:08] <wilee-nilee> !patience > abirspacemonkey
[22:08] <Stripe> hi all, i am using an ubuntu based distro (linux lite) and am having problems with the composoting, i have disabled the xfce compositing, but cant seem to find the underlying compositing in ubuntu, any ideas on how to find or disable it would be great, cheers
[22:09] <wilee-nilee> Stripe, If it is not ubuntu it is not supported. ;)
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> plus theres no underlying compositing. its a feature of the window manager.
[22:10] <abirspacemonkey> HD 6320 only giving standard experience! can't enable 3D :(
[22:10] <Guest68364> hi guys, i just hit <Super>+P by a mistake and my nVidia X Server resets on every relog/reboot
[22:10] <wilee-nilee> Stripe, Try #linuxlite
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> abirspacemonkey,  what drivers are you using?
[22:10] <Stripe> wilee-nilee: sorry, i thought with the compositing being in the ubuntu base it was worth asking in here, thanks anyway :)
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> Stripe,  its not  in the ubuntu base as far as i know.
[22:11] <wilee-nilee> Stripe, Not saying you wont get help, just info. ;)
[22:11] <abirspacemonkey> Code- Command: glxinfo
[22:11] <SuperLag> fun fun fun... sorry the forums are down. :/
[22:11] <Stripe> no problem, thanks  again
[22:11] <abirspacemonkey> name of display 0.0
[22:12] <Guest68364> can anyone help me please?
[22:12] <abirspacemonkey> Yep,forums r down..:s
[22:12] <Guest68364> hi guys, i just hit <Super>+P by a mistake and my nVidia X Server resets on every relog/reboot
[22:12] <Guest68364> !
[22:12] <SuperLag> Is there any way to *permanently* disable the Mic Boost?
[22:12] <wilee-nilee> !patience > Guest68364
[22:12]  * Dr_Willis is not even sure what super-p does
[22:12] <wilee-nilee> me neither
[22:12] <abirspacemonkey> Guys,
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> and i definatly dont see how that would make the X server crash from then on.. if thats what hes saying
[22:13] <abirspacemonkey> Would kindly tell me how can I enable 3D acceleration?
 can you find it out?
[22:14] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, Something to do with xrandr
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> abirspacemonkey,  for ati cards. you would noramally install the fglrx drivers
[22:14] <wilee-nilee> Guest68364, Something to do with xrandr
[22:14] <wilee-nilee> No idea whats up
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/20113/how-to-stop-mod4-p-from-switching-the-display
[22:15] <abirspacemonkey> fglrx drivers do not give me full acceleration in my case
 what should i do? !
[22:15] <SuperLag> Guest68364: have patience? :)
[22:15] <wilee-nilee> Guest68364, pray
[22:15] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: ^5
[22:16] <wilee-nilee> Guest68364, If we know we generally try to help.
[22:16] <abirspacemonkey> Major opcode of failed request:  155 (ATIFGLEXTENSION)
[22:16] <abirspacemonkey>   Minor opcode of failed request:  66 ()
[22:16] <abirspacemonkey>   Serial number of failed request:  13
[22:16] <abirspacemonkey>   Current serial number in output stream:  13
[22:16] <FloodBot1> abirspacemonkey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> abirspacemonkey,  you are most likely out of luck then. i would be suprised if the open sourced ati drivers provided better 3d acell.
 waiting...
[22:17] <abirspacemonkey> did you see the codes I've just sent? @Dr_Willis
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> abirspacemonkey,  totally meanintless opcodes to me.
[22:18] <abirspacemonkey> why?
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> because i have no idea what they mean,
[22:18] <abirspacemonkey> Oh god!
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> i dont memorise opcode failure numbers.. actually i rarely use ati any more these days also.
[22:20] <lauri_> I can't run fglrx drivers in xubuntu 13.04 amd e-2200 with hd 7430 gfx chip
[22:21] <lauri_> can't log in if I install fglrx drivers
[22:21] <lauri_> any tip?
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> the login screen works? but the desktop does not? or clarify what happens that keeps you from logging in
[22:22] <lauri_> can't get into desktop, only to text based login
[22:22] <mozybonz> whoami
[22:22] <mozybonz> heh
[22:22] <lauri_> there was something about plymouthd or something like that
[22:22] <Guest68364> any solution?!
[22:22] <Dr_Willis> plymouth is what does the fancy animation at boot time.
[22:22] <abirspacemonkey> fglx drivers only let me choose 800*400 res
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> lauri_,  does  'startx' or 'sudo service lightdm start' work or show any errors?
[22:23] <lauri_> I tried to start lightdm, but I guess I had wrong command, ended into blank screen
[22:24] <lauri_> I tried sudo lightdm restart
[22:24] <k1l> lauri_: sudo restart lightdm (will do)
[22:25] <lauri_> it's weird since just last week my other laptop, that has the same cpu and gpu, worked fine with fglrx
[22:26] <Guest68364> k1l can you help me on this?
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> i cant even find any real hits on ANYTHING related to  '7430' ati video chip on askubuntu.com ;)
[22:26] <Guest68364> lauri_ ?
[22:26] <Guest68364> i just hit <Super>+P by a mistake and my nVidia X Server resets on every relog/reboo
[22:26] <econdudeawesome> howdy all. Having a hard time getting 12.04 to recognize I plugged in a printer. USB ports work fine it appears, I've tried numerous cables. What to do now?!?
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> Guest68364,  super-p toggles the internal/external displays it seems.. hit it again, and see if the monitor works? or try plugging in 2 monitors.
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> or see if it works for a newly made user.
[22:27] <k1l> Guest68364: super-p is resolution change, right? dont know what is going on then
[22:27] <brontosaurusrex> Guest68364, sudo nvidia-xconfig < does anything?
[22:28] <Guest68364> brontosaurusrex brb relog
[22:28] <Guest68364> Dr_Willis i have 2 monitors but all fucked up
[22:28] <Guest68364> and its on a mirror mode
[22:28] <eimajenthat> Okay, I've got a daemon (it's the New Relic MySQL monitoring plugin, but that's not super relevant).  It comes with a script that goes in /etc/init.d .  I've added that, so I can now start/stop it with sudo service newrelic-mysql-plugin start .  But what do I need to do to have it start on boot.  Is that enough?  Or do I need to edit some other config?
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> super-p is also the same as fn-F8 on many laptops it seems
 im on PC
[22:29] <Guest68364> brb check sudo nvidia-xconfig
[22:29] <brontosaurusrex> eimajenthat, readin that script should give you clues
[22:31] <lauri_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[22:31] <lauri_> that's what I tried to use as guide
[22:31] <lauri_> I also noticed that I don't have xorg.conf
[22:31] <lauri_> is that still necessary?
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> xorg.conf is rarely needed these days
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> some of the settings tools do generate a minimal xorg.conf
[22:33] <eimajenthat> brontosaurusrex: but will Ubuntu (Upstart I guess?) just try to run the start command on everything in /etc/init.d/ during boot up, or is that configured elsewhere?
[22:33] <lauri_> k
[22:35] <brontosaurusrex> eimajenthat, ehm, actually not sure, so i will not say anything.
[22:36] <c_smith> Hi, I'm trying to get fglrx working on my Lenovo IdeaPad U400 (muxless pair of Intel and Radeon) and whenever I have fglrx installed with the stock X.org stack in 13.04, x.org segfaults. and with the xorg-edgers ppa, I get worse results (xorg crashes, and can't access a tty, so I have to chroot), is this a known problem? and is there even a workaround?
[22:36] <brontosaurusrex> eimajenthat, (it does work that way on debian)
[22:37] <lauri_> c_smith did that start just recently...?
[22:37] <c_smith> lauri_: been this way through the entire 13.04 cycle.
[22:37] <lauri_> ok
[22:37] <c_smith> worked with 12.10, but 12.10 is the first release I could install due to other previous problems that I fixed, namely figuring out UEFI,
[22:39] <c_smith> kinda doubting the fact that I'm using Kubuntu makes a difference, because Ubuntu and Kubuntu use the same x.org stack.
[22:39] <eimajenthat> hmm, looks like I might need to do update-rc.d
[22:39] <lauri_> I got pretty much same problem with xubuntu 13.04
[22:39] <c_smith> eimajenthat: give me a sec to get x.org installed to test that theory.
[22:40] <c_smith> *fglrx, not x.org
[22:40] <tgm4883> c_smith, not sure if it helps, but I've got a radeon 7600m and intel hd 4000 in my inspiron 14z and both sides of this hybrid graphics setup work great. I had to install the prop driver from amd though and also use a different xserver-xorg-video-intel package
[22:41] <tgm4883> 7650M it would seem
[22:41] <joshu_> hi guys what's meant by a "pressed image"?
[22:42] <tgm4883> joshu_, in regards to what?
[22:42] <tgm4883> we'll need a bit more context
[22:42] <lauri_> tgm4883, what do you mean by installing it from amd?
[22:43] <joshu_> I was speaking to someone yesterday and the conversation was about taking standard ubuntu stripping it down and then creating a pressed image of that stripped down version.
[22:43] <tgm4883> lauri_, I'm running the 13.6 beta driver from here  http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[22:43] <c_smith> tgm4883: gonna try your solution
[22:44] <tgm4883> c_smith, lauri_ let me find the guide in case you need it
[22:44] <c_smith> tgm4883: as your setup is close to what I have.
[22:44] <tgm4883> c_smith, lauri_ http://askubuntu.com/questions/205112/how-do-i-get-amd-intel-hybrid-graphics-drivers-to-work
[22:44] <lauri_> ty, Ill check that out
[22:45] <tgm4883> joshu_, are you talking about a compressed image? Or a preseed image?
[22:45] <c_smith> tgm4883: following that guide now.
[22:45] <c_smith> I'll let you know if it works.
[22:45] <tgm4883> c_smith, lauri_ do either of you plan on gaming on the AMD side?
[22:45] <joshu_> tgm4883 the word used was "pressed" but perhaps that was a typo and "preseed" as you say is what the discussion was about
[22:46] <lauri_> I got some indie games from steam, and I use stellarium
[22:46] <lauri_> open source drivers are bad even in stellarium :(
[22:46] <c_smith> tgm4883: I constantly do so on my desktop (AMD Radeon HD 6670 with an AMD-FX CPU)
[22:46] <c_smith> the CPU is the Bulldozer line.
[22:46] <tgm4883> c_smith, lauri_ there is an input lag bug that is known and should be fixed in the next version. I've only noticed it in L4D2, and only when using the radeon card. The intel card works fine
[22:47] <tgm4883> joshu_, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preseed
[22:48] <c_smith> tgm4883: haven't run into that with the machine I use for gaming (my desktop) but then again, that machine is only ever using the dedicated gpu.
[22:49] <c_smith> tgm4883: iirc, you frequented on the ubuntu-us-or channel, correct?
[22:49] <c_smith> offtopic there, i know.
[22:49] <danlamanna> i'm having serious fluctuation in free disk space, is there anyway I can monitor which processes are causing that?
[22:49] <c_smith> danlamanna: wouldn't the system monitor provide that?
[22:50] <c_smith> danlamanna: I may be wrong there (been using Kubuntu since I switched back to a 'Buntu base, and Arch or Gentoo before)
[22:51] <danlamanna> c_smith: it shows available disk space
[22:52] <czikson> hi can some one help me? i have a problem with a pen drive...
[22:52] <danlamanna> i actually think i've narrowed it down to mysql now though..
[22:52] <c_smith> danlamanna: cool.
[22:52] <holstein> czikson: you can format them with gparted.. otherwise, details are needed
[22:52] <Mathisen> hmm ubuntuforums.org >> Unfortunately the attackers have gotten every user's local username, password, and email address from the Ubuntu Forums database.
[22:52] <Mathisen> this dont sound good at all
[22:53] <c_smith> Mathisen: wow.
[22:53] <czikson> it is write protected... nothing works from what iv tested
[22:54] <Proxywars_> How would I go about fixing this Can't create '_build/runtime_params': Permission denied at /usr/share/perl5/Module/Build/Notes.pm line 110.?
[22:54] <holstein> czikson: you can format it
[22:54] <czikson> no i can't when i try it dosnt work
[22:55] <c_smith> czikson: if it's write protected, you could try dd then (but be EXTREMELY careful, one wrong letter in the device name, and you could wipe out the contents of the internal   hard disk)
[22:55] <holstein> czikson: maybe the unit is damaged.. "doesnt work" isnt enough detail either
[22:55] <czikson> im using virtual machine so no worry but iv was trying dd and no luck tho..
[22:55] <holstein> czikson: no luck, in what way? what error messages?
[22:56] <c_smith> did that once, and wiped out 135GB worth of backed up storage, so I've learned to be careful with dd the hard way.
[22:56] <czikson> ill paste it in a sec
[22:56] <holstein> czikson: could be that you are trying to access it via VM incorrectly
[22:56] <lauri_> nice, the catalyst package from amd's site worked like a charm :)
[22:57] <lauri_> thanks for the tip!
[22:57] <lauri_> bb
[22:59] <HappyNewYear13> hello friends, what's the command to know what graphic driver i'm using?
[23:00] <HappyNewYear13> oh no the ubuntu forums are down
[23:00] <HappyNewYear13> help me
[23:00] <HappyNewYear13> plz
[23:01] <holstein> HappyNewYear13: lspci lists hardware.. be patient
[23:01] <zykotick9> HappyNewYear13: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log, or "lspci -vnvn" find the VGA section, and the "kernel driver in use" line for the VGA
[23:01] <HappyNewYear13> thank you very much holstein & zykotick9
[23:02] <czikson> holstein: may be... i'v fond some command on the ubuntu forum
[23:02] <czikson> but its i off now...
[23:03] <holstein> czikson: "some command" is not enough detail either
[23:04] <czikson> it was like dd if=/dev/zero (some thing like that) if=/dev/sdb/ bs=4096k
[23:04] <czikson> like that i can't remember now..
[23:04] <holstein> czikson: was the error permission related?
[23:04] <zykotick9> holstein: also notice the 2 if entries...
[23:04] <czikson> write protected thats all it was
[23:05] <zheka> hi here
[23:05] <zheka> http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/raw/398624/
[23:05] <holstein> czikson: dd is nicknamed "disk destroyer".. if you execute it properly, you will get it.. the write protection will not persist
[23:05]  * genii sips and ponders if sdb# was mounted at the time
[23:05] <holstein> czikson: you can delete the wrong drive.. you could have a bad USB, or you are having issues with VM..
[23:05] <czikson> could u  paste the command? i will try it
[23:06] <holstein> czikson: sure
[23:06] <holstein> czikson: man dd
[23:06] <holstein> czikson: you should read and share any errors that you encounter..
[23:06] <czikson> ok :)
[23:07] <zheka> hello anyone knows how to fix http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/raw/398624/
[23:07] <holstein> !patience | zykotick9
[23:07] <holstein> zheka: ^^
[23:08] <holstein> zykotick9: sorry for the tab-error
[23:08] <Kalimdor> resolution reset on reboot with nvidia x server but xorg saves data and it doesnt take any change after reboot
[23:08] <RobertBColton> hey guys
[23:08] <RobertBColton> listen
[23:08] <Kalimdor> solution?
[23:08] <RobertBColton> i have a craig electronics tablet device here that has android installed
[23:08] <RobertBColton> im wanting to install the ubuntu tablet beta os
[23:08] <nibbler_> !enter | RobertBColton
[23:08] <zykotick9> holstein: it did catch me a bit off guard orgianally - no problems ;)
[23:08] <holstein> Kalimdor: you write the xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:09] <RobertBColton> can anybody help? :(
[23:09] <czikson> this was the command on the forum : dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=4096k
[23:09] <holstein> !tablet | RobertBColton
[23:09] <brontosaurusrex> mods; http://ubuntuforums.org/announce.html < this is pretty serious, perhaps some bot could advertise this from time to time? (especially the part about changing the passwords)
[23:09] <Kalimdor> holstein: i have a complete xorg.conf
[23:09] <RobertBColton> ok
[23:09] <picca> i always misread ubottu as saying … don't feel ignored … and make sure you repeat your question frequently lol
[23:09] <RobertBColton> holstein, im trying to get root right now without my sd card
[23:09] <zheka> guyz anyone knows?
[23:10] <Kalimdor> holstein: after the reboot xorg.conf still has the correct data
[23:10] <genii> RobertBColton: I'd check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices to see if it's being worked on. Also there is a channel #ubuntu-touch
[23:10] <RobertBColton> hmm
[23:10] <RobertBColton> idk
[23:10] <Kalimdor> holstein: but resolution resets
[23:10] <holstein> zheka: ERROR: Unable to open X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' for writing. ..is there a file there? are you sudo?
[23:10] <zykotick9> Kalimdor: i'd suggests starting the nvidia-settings utility with "gksudo nvidia-settings" and after making your changes, use the save to xorg button...
[23:10] <RobertBColton> genii, im using the Craig Electronics one, im not sure how popular they are, but they come in under 100$ so i know people have modified them, but for ubuntu idk
[23:11] <Kalimdor> zykotick9: read first.
[23:11] <Kalimdor> Xorg.conf has no problem at all
[23:11] <Mudack> then second
[23:11] <holstein> RobertBColton: try the tabletOS channel.. or a hardware channel.
[23:11] <czikson> @holstein @ubuntu:/home/czikson# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb             dd: opening ‘/dev/sdb’: Read-only file system
[23:11] <RobertBColton> holstein, what was the channel again?
[23:12] <holstein> !tablet | RobertBColton
[23:12] <zheka> sure i am sudo
[23:12] <zykotick9> Kalimdor: i'd guess, your theory is flawed... are you suggesting that Xorg isn't reading/applying xorg.conf's settings correctly?  that would be a major bug ;)  best of luck.
[23:12] <RobertBColton> holstein, thnak you
[23:12] <Kalimdor> zykotick9: i will paste
[23:13] <zykotick9> Kalimdor: don't bother.  i'm not following issue further.  best of luck.
[23:13]  * genii notes the uppercase X on Kalimdor's Xorg.conf
[23:13] <Kalimdor> zykotick9: you could mute
[23:13] <Kalimdor> holstein: any solution?
[23:14] <holstein> Kalimdor: what driver? the one from the repos?
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> you do run the nvidia-settings tool as root, to save to sysystem wide config, I belive if you run it as a user. it saves to a file in the users home. to allow per-user customizations
[23:15] <zheka> holstein: http://pastebin.com/1cmVMNz7
[23:16] <holstein> zheka: do you have a file there?
[23:16] <holstein> zheka: are you sudo? what tool are you using? what are you running to get that error?
[23:16] <Kalimdor> holstein: take a look here also please: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5895632/
[23:17] <holstein> zheka: the error reads : ERROR: Unable to open X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' for writing.
[23:17] <zykotick9> holstein: re:zheka, /etc/X11/xorg.conf also needs root (aka sudo - OR in this case probably gksudo!) privs for writing
[23:17] <holstein> zheka: so, it cant be opened for reading.. why? is it there? do you have permission? other than that, ask whoever is maintaining whatever tool you are using
[23:17] <zheka> holstein: sudo nvidia-settings
[23:17] <czikson> holstein: it seys its write protected thats the only error
[23:17] <holstein> zheka: i just put it manually in place if the wizard fails
[23:18] <zykotick9> holstein: for writing, according to the error!
[23:18] <holstein> could be just not there yet
[23:19] <zheka> holstein: http://pastebin.com/ExqKmxRm
[23:19] <holstein> zheka: is there a file there? friend? do you actually have a file at that location?
[23:19] <kaddi> so what's the word on the hacking.. any inside news floating around here?
[23:20] <holstein> ERROR: Unable to open X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' for writing.
[23:20] <Kalimdor> holstein: tried all ways
[23:20] <zheka> bc gtk
[23:20] <zykotick9> zheka: fyi, i don't see your pastes, 'cause your using pastebin.com - ubuntu has a free one, there are other options as well - that doing have ads/tracking attached to them...  food for thought only - do whatever you want ;)  best of luck.
[23:20] <k1l> kaddi: #ubuntuforums
[23:20] <kaddi> ty
[23:21] <zykotick9> s/doing/don't/
[23:21] <zheka> zykotick9: where i shall to paste?
[23:21] <zykotick9> !paste
[23:21] <holstein> zheka: the location he mentioned.
[23:22] <holstein> zheka: is there a file located there? friend?
[23:22] <zheka> sure
[23:22] <Kalimdor> zykotick9: dont you look at mine?
[23:22] <Kalimdor> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5895632/
[23:22] <zheka> holstein: sure
[23:22] <holstein> zheka: then, i would put it in manually.. dont use the tool.. or upate it and try
[23:23] <czikson> holstein: Unable to open /dev/sdb read-write (Read-only file system).  /dev/sdb has been opened read-only.
[23:23] <zheka> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5895647/
[23:24] <Kalimdor> need help: resolution reset on reboot with nvidia x server but xorg saves data and it doesnt take any change after reboot
[23:24] <zheka> holstein: aww idk any commands for edit this file
[23:25] <zykotick9> zheka: can you rename your current xorg.conf to xorg.conf.my.backup or something, then use "gksudo nvidia-settings" to save a NEW file.  The Screen section doesn't seem correct somehow!
[23:25] <zykotick9> zheka: can you paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log as well?
[23:26] <marcusLangley> list
[23:26] <zheka> zykotick9: sure, tryin
[23:26] <Kalimdor> lol no one knows that
[23:26] <Kalimdor> roflmao
[23:26] <Kalimdor> naps
[23:26] <zykotick9> zheka: EE lines in that log are badness ;)
[23:26] <hyprvx> Hello, I downloaded the 64-bit version of Ubuntu. Will the installer work on Intel 64 machines, even though the file is marked amd64?
[23:26] <checoimg> YEs it willl work
[23:27] <checoimg> AMD was the first to have 64 bit , that's why is called AMD
[23:27] <hyprvx> Thank you. One final question; space is limited on my destination computer, how much space will the installer take up?
[23:27] <zykotick9> !requirements
[23:27] <czikson> 5g
[23:28] <hyprvx> Again, thanks. I'm switching to Ubuntu because Windows eats up nearly the entire drive D:
[23:28] <checoimg> You need a Swap partition as big as your ram
[23:29] <zykotick9> hyprvx: honestly, i'd suggest 8-10GB for a normal ubuntu system (updating takes a lot of space, and if / runs out "houston, we have a problem" ;)  good luck.
[23:29] <hyprvx> zykotick9, the laptop has a 16GB SSD
[23:30] <checoimg> I think Ubuntu will take the more it can but I always control that instead of letting it automatically install
[23:30] <zykotick9> hyprvx: 16 SSD would be very cool for /
[23:30] <Proxywars_> How would I go about fixing this Can't create '_build/runtime_params': Permission denied at /usr/share/perl5/Module/Build/Notes.pm line 110.?
[23:30] <zheka> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5895656/
[23:30] <checoimg> Windows takes full 16 GB
[23:30] <nibbler_> Proxywars_: did you prepend sudo?
[23:30] <hyprvx> checoimg, exactly why I'm switching
[23:30] <checoimg> How much ram do you have ? 4 GB >
[23:31] <hyprvx> 2GB.
[23:31] <holstein> czikson: i would use a live CD to mount that locally, not read only..
[23:31] <zykotick9> Proxywars_: i'd suggest using alis to search for a perl channel
[23:31] <holstein> czikson: locally.. not passing through VM
[23:31] <czikson> allredy tried that
[23:31] <czikson> no luck
[23:31] <checoimg> Ok then the system will make a 2 GB swap partition
[23:31] <Proxywars_> zykotick9: How would I go about that, also this is for slic3r for repetier host
[23:31] <holstein> czikson: that?
[23:32] <zykotick9> !alis | Proxywars_
[23:32] <usr13> zheka: That's the same thing you posted last time.
[23:32] <holstein> czikson: could also be bad hardware
[23:32] <checoimg> so you have 14 GB to use for ubuntu and files
[23:32] <czikson> mounted the live cd and dd the usb isn't working write only error
[23:32] <czikson> i can enter the usb copy from it but noting else
[23:33] <holstein> czikson: you can, if you mount it properly, and use the proper permissions
[23:33] <zheka> ive removed and try again
[23:34] <zykotick9> czikson: "mount the live cd and dd the usb" what are you doing exactly? cause it doesn't sound right...
[23:34] <zheka> but i found backups trying to restart x`s
[23:34] <Rakyth> Hey, I need to pull a plaintext copy of a website--is there a Linux app/utility that can help me?
[23:35] <usr13> zheka: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-settings/+bug/1012851
[23:35] <czikson> sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdb1
[23:35] <czikson> mkfs.vfat 3.0.14 (23 Jan 2023)
[23:35] <czikson> mkfs.vfat: unable to open /dev/sdb1: Read-only file system
[23:35] <czikson> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=4M
[23:35] <czikson> dd: opening ‘/dev/sdb’: Read-only file system
[23:35] <zykotick9> Rakyth: look into elinks, links2 and their text export commands (you're gonna get different results per-browser, and per-page...) good luck.
[23:36] <zheka> in log i see error about gyk module
[23:36] <checoimg> !requirements | checoimg
[23:36] <zheka> gtk
[23:36] <usr13> zheka: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:36] <czikson> hdparm -r0 /dev/sdb
[23:36] <czikson> /dev/sdb:
[23:36] <czikson>  setting readonly to 0 (off)
[23:36] <czikson>  readonly      =  0 (off)
[23:36] <czikson> *@ubuntu:/home/*# sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdb1
[23:36] <FloodBot1> czikson: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:36] <czikson> mkfs.vfat 3.0.14 (23 Jan 2023)
[23:37] <zheka> usr13: i want to stay on 10.04
[23:37] <alt93973> lool
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> czikson,  so is this a usb flash drive or a usb hard drive? or what exactly?
[23:37] <zykotick9> zheka: you can't stay on 10.04... it's over for desktops!  face facts.
[23:37] <Proxywars_> zykotick9: I believe this is a ubuntu problem due to permission problems not a perl issue
[23:37] <holstein> czikson: does it have a switch? on the actual device?
[23:37] <usr13> zheka: Ok.
[23:37] <SonikkuAmerica> czikson: While you're being +q'd, remember that you need to mount your filesystem somewhere else
[23:37] <usr13> zheka: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:37] <czikson> its sun disk cruzer slice 8g
[23:37] <Kalimdor> need help: resolution reset on reboot with nvidia x server but xorg.conf saves the data
[23:37] <holstein> well, you can stay on 10.04 as long as you like, but you dont get support for it here
[23:38] <SonikkuAmerica> czikson: (such as /mnt)
[23:38] <zykotick9> Proxywars_: possible, in which case you should be searching launchpad for bugs related to perl on ubuntu
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> czikson,  you sure sdb is the right device?
[23:38] <czikson> yes i know
[23:38] <czikson> yes it is i have only sda and sdb
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> sudo blkid should show the devices
[23:38] <czikson> sda hdd adb usb
[23:38] <czikson> sdb*
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> sounds like the usb is dead/failed - ive seen them die and get stuck in read only mode'
[23:39] <zykotick9> Proxywars_: i still suspect user error, over a bug...
[23:39] <Kalimdor> holstein: can you help me please?
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> czikson,  you were doing the dd command with sudo rights?
[23:39] <Proxywars_> zykotick9: Same, how would I go about getting permission to the file then?
[23:39] <czikson> yes
[23:39] <zheka> 2nd display is works for now but some icons on applet section at botoom right corner shows wrong
[23:40] <holstein> Kalimdor: are you running the driver from the repos?
[23:40] <georgij> Hi, does anyone how to get postfix working been trying for days. Lol. Everything seems to be working, SMTP(port 33), Courier-POP3, Courier-IMAP... But can't seem to retrieve remote emails like GMail, hotmail etc..
[23:40] <Kalimdor> holstein: idk how to find out that
[23:40] <holstein> Kalimdor: where did you get it?
[23:41] <Kalimdor> the driver?
[23:41] <holstein> !nvidia | Kalimdor this is what i always refer to.. you can see where to file a bug if you are finding a bug
[23:41] <l1ckr> does anyone know if xchat can be run on tor?
[23:41] <saiarcot895> l1ckr: yes
[23:41] <zykotick9> Proxywars_: and THAT's why i suggested you ask in a perl channel - this isn't straight unix/linux/posix permission issues, cause your getting a perl error - with permissions
[23:42] <saiarcot895> l1ckr: as to whether you can actually use IRC on tor depends on the network/server
[23:42] <l1ckr> ok...thanks
[23:42] <czikson> blkid out : /dev/sdb1: UUID="D012-CCF2" TYPE="vfat"
[23:42] <holstein> l1ckr: xchat is a chat client.. it will run, but the connection will be the issue
[23:42] <l1ckr> got ya
[23:42] <Rakyth> Zykotick9: thanks
[23:42] <zykotick9> Proxywars_: have you checked line XXX, to see what's there?
[23:43] <Kane274> Hi, does anyone here have experience with apt-cacher and vmbuilder ?
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> i think freenode has some sort of hidden tor server also. (or used to)
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> or hidden service. or however the tor term is called.
[23:43] <saiarcot895> Dr_Willis: still does; it's hidden service
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> i never really got into tor that much.
[23:44] <saiarcot895> Kane274: go ahead and ask your question
[23:44] <Proxywars_> zykotick9: That wouldn't really change anything as it's a permissions issue, I suspect chmod 777 would have helped but to no avail, I am a noob so I probably typd it wrong
[23:44] <Kalimdor> holstein: well the driver worked fine but since i hit the <Super>+P the resolution changed and stuck, i used that shortcut again and again to set to default but it doesnt change anything after reboot the xorg.conf contains the correct data, and nvida x server can change the resolution and save also but when i reboot, resolution resets to mirror dual monitors, here is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/5895632/
[23:44] <zykotick9> Kane274: i failed to get vmbuilder to work.  and i'm a MUCH bigger fan of apt-cacher-ng then apt-cacher.  so best of luck is all i can say ;)
[23:44] <zheka> zykotick9: fixed by recover from backup xorg.conf, now other trouble
[23:44] <zykotick9> Proxywars_: but what's the error again - isn't there a line number mentioned?
[23:45] <Kane274> well I got vmbuilder to work. I don't need apt-cacher I would also consider using apt-cacher-ng :)
[23:46] <zheka> zykotick9: icons of wifi, keyboard layout, and xchat shows so wrong
[23:46] <zykotick9> Kane274: fyi, apt-cacher-ng supports multiple versions at the same time!  even multiple distributions.  apt-cacher is limited to one at a time.  downside is... i think apt-cacher might be somewhat more stable, i have run into problems at various times with apt-cacher-ng (where the solution was to delete the cache, which kinda defeats the whole purpose)
[23:47] <Kane274> I just want to know if it is possible to download like whole distributions into the proxy. I thought I mounted a CD and put all of its content into the proxy. But I don't know the link to access the distribution :/
[23:47] <AlexTheRealOne> Anyone plz help, How i open the Options from the Terminal?
[23:47] <Proxywars_> zykotick9: Can't create '_build/runtime_params': Permission denied at /usr/share/perl5/Module/Build/Notes.pm line 110.
[23:47] <zykotick9> Kane274: with apt-cacher-ng absolutely!  i install everything from mini (or debian netinst) and everything is proxied locally ;)
[23:48] <zipy> can i mount an dd image that has 2 partitions in it?
[23:48] <zykotick9> Kane274: and any other DEB based distros as well ;)  one of the first question in mini/netinst is proxy, and you just type in your local proxy and it's golden from there.
[23:49] <Kane274> wow ok, well that sounds very promising :) so I'll try the apt-cacher-ng! thx for the info! btw I read somewhere that the main difference is that the apt-cacher needs an apache and apt-cacher-ng doesnt. But it seems like it's much more ^^
[23:49] <zykotick9> Kane274: i don't think apt-cacher need apache (but i could be wrong)
[23:49] <AlexTheRealOne> How to open the Option from the Terminal? Is there a way? Unity Crashed after new Graphic Drivers, Compiz too
[23:50] <Kalimdor> is there any other resolution controller on OS that may disorders to nvidia x server if yes which and how to remove those
[23:50] <Kane274> Hmm maybe it was outdated info :) anyways, thx a lot for the help. I'm off to try apt-cacher-ng! yippie :D
[23:51] <zykotick9> Kane274: ya, neither apt-cacher or apt-cacher-ng should require apache (or another webserver?) [well, at least not a debian system]
[23:52] <zykotick9> Kane274: on your clients, don't edit source.list/etc. just one line change to /etc/apt/apt.conf on all your clients!  makes it MUCH easier to manage!
[23:52] <Kalimdor> zykotick9 still ignoring me?
[23:53] <zykotick9> Kalimdor: well not "really" ;)  what's up - all on one line please.
[23:53] <Kane274> ok I will do that :) First goal is to get it to work with vmbuilder and then change the clients
[23:54] <Kalimdor> zykotick9: ;) is there any other resolution controller on OS that may be a disorder to nvidia x server if yes which and how to remove those
[23:55] <hector> is there any alternative to startup disk creator? it's broken.
[23:56] <zykotick9> Kalimdor: removing stuff is almost NEVER required on gnu/linux.  it's how you have it configured that's the issue.  SO resetting to defaults (which is almost never actually re-installing) is helpful, but just at the settings level.  what is the actual setting that's giving you problems?
[23:57] <zykotick9> Kalimdor: actually, before we continue - have you ever installed the driver downloaded from nvidia.com?
[23:57] <Kalimdor> zykotick9: the driver worked fine but since i hit the <Super>+P the resolution changed and stuck, i used that shortcut again and again to set to default but it doesnt change anything after reboot the xorg.conf contains the correct data, and nvida x server can change the resolution and save also but when i reboot, resolution resets to mirror dual monitors, here is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/5895632/
[23:58] <zipy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5895707/ <-- how can i mount the 2nd partition in this img
[23:58] <Kalimdor> zykotick9: both monitors will be on 1024x768
[23:59] <zykotick9> Kalimdor: i'm curious (i don't know what it means, but the "Option   "DynamicTwinView" "false" " means?
[23:59] <saban> is there any topic on web about hacked forum? that went down yesterday