[04:08] <OvenWerks> lumpy: hello back..
[04:09] <lumpy> heya
[04:09] <lumpy> how are you doing?
[04:09]  * lumpy is still having all kinds of fun with streaming
[04:09] <lumpy> idjc won't work with lame anymore it seems
[04:10] <lumpy> i have, for the moment, switched over to mixxx
[04:10] <lumpy> i also lost my entire desktop monday /while/ streaming live
[04:10] <lumpy> thank god for cli
[04:11] <lumpy> and sorry if i wasted your time the other night OvenWerks
[04:11] <lumpy> i still feel stupid
[04:12] <OvenWerks> not a problem. I was pretty sure it was an alsa setting
[04:12] <lumpy> well i dunno what happened
[04:12] <lumpy> for a hot minute it would reset to the settings we changed
[04:13] <lumpy> and then, after I reinstalled xfce, it keeps em
[04:13] <lumpy> no clue why
[04:13] <OvenWerks> PA changes things
[04:13] <lumpy> but it works now
[04:13] <OvenWerks> good
[04:13] <lumpy> i have been running pasuspender to launch stuff now
[04:13] <lumpy> but still no luck on idjc
[04:13] <OvenWerks> Might be easiest, but sholdn't be needed
[04:13] <lumpy> it /should/ see the lame codec
[04:14] <lumpy> but it is not
[04:14] <OvenWerks> idjc is just won't stream? or I guess lame too
[04:14] <lumpy> lame works with mixxx
[04:14] <lumpy> but not idjc
[04:14] <lumpy> least the latest versions of all
[04:14] <OvenWerks> mixxx and nvidia have been aprpblem for me.
[04:14] <lumpy> my tech director remotely installed the stuff for me
[04:14] <lumpy> mixxx works with my nvidia
[04:15] <lumpy> but i ditched the nvidia drivers for arandr
[04:15] <lumpy> arandr seems to work just fine atm
[04:16] <lumpy> and, for what it is worth, i never recall having to select record in alsa
[04:16] <OvenWerks> I haven't played with 12.04 for a bit
[04:16] <lumpy> i am running 12.04.2
[04:16] <lumpy> and i like it
[04:16] <OvenWerks> It could be PA changed things for you in both cases.
[04:17] <lumpy> i still have a few more things to tweak with the desktop
[04:17] <lumpy> and have to see if i can get idjc to work
[04:17] <lumpy> it is a bit more better gooder for internet dj stuhh
[04:17] <lumpy> er stuff
[04:18] <lumpy> i unistalled it before i streamed tonight
[04:18] <lumpy> maybe just reinstalling it will work but i think that is not going to be the case
[04:18] <lumpy> from some forum posts i read
[04:19] <OvenWerks> I am just trying out mixxx on this desktop... KDE/Studio 13.10
[04:19] <lumpy> it is looking like you, at present, need to run .make to have it work with lame
[04:19] <OvenWerks> Were you running it Ogg before by chance?
[04:19] <lumpy> i will let you know after i destroy my system and figure it ou
[04:19] <lumpy> nope
[04:20] <lumpy> before, for years, mp3 128 constant
[04:20] <lumpy> and it seems the issue is not the source but the stream output
[04:20] <lumpy> the reason it won't let me actually take the stream is because it is not streaming in the right format
[04:21] <lumpy> and the newest version says unsupported format
[04:21] <lumpy> but the config file has the right info for the lame encoder
[04:21] <lumpy> but it just doesn't work
[04:22] <lumpy> and , for the life of  both myself and my tech director, we can't find an error log for it anywhere
[04:22] <OvenWerks> Not fun.
[04:22] <lumpy> hmm, just had a thought
[04:22] <OvenWerks> Mixxx works fine here on this DE
[04:22] <lumpy> wonder if i launched it via pasuspender
[04:22] <lumpy> i like mixxx
[04:22] <lumpy> to a degree
[04:23] <lumpy> but idjc is more suited for internet dj stuff
[04:23] <lumpy> but mixx does have some sweet features
[04:23] <lumpy> but i have not gotten it to work with jackd
[04:23] <lumpy> and i want my compressor
[04:24] <lumpy> i like the sampers in mixxx
[04:24] <lumpy> the cross fade is sweeter than idjc
[04:24] <lumpy> not sure how the recording works
[04:24] <lumpy> it takes forever to put together all the 5 second clips
[04:27] <OvenWerks> When I run mixxx it seems to end up with jack ports, but not as many as idjc
[04:28] <lumpy> when i tried to run it via jack
[04:28] <lumpy> jack didn't so anything in the connection window
[04:29] <OvenWerks> I didn't try, I just installed mixxx and jackdbus was already running and mixx showwed up.
[04:29] <lumpy> i had jack running first as well
[04:29] <lumpy> i will look into it again
[04:30] <lumpy> maybe i need to launch it with or with out suspender
[04:30] <lumpy> but the docs say to launch it via suspender
[04:30] <lumpy> so i did
[04:30] <lumpy> i could easily adapt to mixxx, if i can run jack rack with it
[04:31] <lumpy> but would still prefer idjc
[04:31] <OvenWerks> what sample rate do you use?
[04:31] <OvenWerks> 44 or 48?
[04:32] <lumpy> 44.1 on jack
[04:32] <OvenWerks> so the stream would be too?
[04:32] <lumpy> i have been running a higher latency with jack rack
[04:32] <lumpy> right
[04:32] <lumpy> stream is the same
[04:33] <OvenWerks> I would guess all the files are as well
[04:33] <lumpy> latency is .96 ms the way i set it up
[04:33] <lumpy> not all of the files but the majority of them
[04:33] <OvenWerks> 0.96? or 96 ms?
[04:33] <lumpy> some of the artists use higher rates
[04:33] <lumpy> er 96
[04:33] <lumpy> my bad
[04:34] <lumpy> i don't get over runs with that setting
[04:34] <lumpy> at lower latency it do once in a while
[04:34] <OvenWerks> I can get less than 1ms... but not with a SB card
[04:34] <lumpy> it was a holstein suggestion
[04:34] <lumpy> and seems to have been a good one
[04:34] <lumpy> not that that would be a shock
[04:34] <OvenWerks> Ya, mp3 is over 100 ms anyway.
[04:35] <OvenWerks> it does make monitoring a bit harder.
[04:35] <lumpy> the other thing i like about idjc it that it will automatically log in at a time and kill the connection at the end
[04:35] <lumpy> mixxx does not seem to have such features
[04:36] <OvenWerks> but you run all you monitoring analog before it hits the computer anyway.
[04:36] <lumpy> yeah
[04:36] <lumpy> but i have to manually kill the wave output before i mic
[04:36] <lumpy> otherwise there is an echo
[04:37] <lumpy> didn't have to do that with idjc
[04:37] <OvenWerks> :)
[04:37] <lumpy> then again i never played with the dual card set up
[04:37] <lumpy> yet...
[04:37] <OvenWerks> I remember that with a satilite feed at CBC.
[04:37] <lumpy> it looks like i could monitor off one card
[04:37] <lumpy> and stream with the other
[04:38] <lumpy> just haven't had the chance to play with it yet
[04:38] <lumpy> i was literally reading the docs as i was streaming the news on monday
[04:38] <lumpy> and mostly in cli
[04:38] <lumpy> it was a ton of fun
[04:39] <OvenWerks> I think when I was playing with it I was streaming in ogg
[04:39] <lumpy> but, if was not for linux, nothing would have happened at all
[04:39] <lumpy> i could convert everything to ogg
[04:39] <lumpy> but, the stream still needs mp3
[04:39] <lumpy> i think
[04:39] <lumpy> does icecast support ogg?
[04:39] <OvenWerks> yes
[04:39] <lumpy> that might be a solution
[04:40] <lumpy> just let the server handle it then
[04:40] <OvenWerks> it is kept by the same people as ogg
[04:41] <lumpy> so many options
[04:41] <OvenWerks> the problem would be you r listeners.
[04:41] <lumpy> so little time
[04:41] <lumpy> they would need ogg eh?
[04:41] <OvenWerks> they have to have a player that supports ogg.
[04:41] <lumpy> ic
[04:41] <OvenWerks> I think most do
[04:41] <lumpy> it is a better format imho
[04:42] <OvenWerks> opus is the futrure.
[04:42] <lumpy> and would kill this lame problem with every other version
[04:42] <OvenWerks> *future
[04:42] <lumpy> agreed
[04:42] <lumpy> even better format
[04:43] <lumpy> off topic q
[04:43] <OvenWerks> GA
[04:43] <lumpy> does freenode have bnc?
[04:43] <OvenWerks> bnc = ?
[04:43] <lumpy> not sure what it stands for but
[04:43] <lumpy> basically, you are always connected to irc
[04:44] <lumpy> and when you do log in it plays everything back
[04:44] <lumpy> so even when your home machine is not connected
[04:44] <lumpy> you still are
[04:44] <OvenWerks> I sort of have that here
[04:44] <lumpy> how so
[04:45] <OvenWerks> I am running screen on my server with irssi as the irc client
[04:45] <lumpy> ic
[04:45] <lumpy> bbiaf gotta let the other DJ out
[04:46] <OvenWerks> I ssh in to the server then I can reconnect to screen and all the scroll back is there.
[04:50] <lumpy> i was having ssh issues with the new router
[04:50] <lumpy> but i managed to hack that out
[04:50] <lumpy> the other thing about mixxx
[04:50] <lumpy> is it takes forever to finish a recording
[04:50] <OvenWerks> screen is a nice tool, it is like a session manager for CLI
[04:51] <OvenWerks> I can have any number of terminals in it and switch between them, but the program in each feels it has a live terminal.
[04:51] <lumpy> you are much better at cli than i
[04:51] <lumpy> but i am getting it back
[04:51] <lumpy> just slowly
[04:52] <OvenWerks> So I can have this irc going then switch to another terminal and read mail while a thrid on is doing a SW update.
[04:53] <OvenWerks> I can detach and log out but screen keeps those terminals live and I can ssh back and reconnect.
[04:53] <OvenWerks> From the same computer or another. If it is another I can force the new link to steal it from the old one.
[05:00] <lumpy> nice
[05:00] <lumpy> time for me to get horizontal
[05:01] <OvenWerks> K
[05:01] <lumpy> we shall pick this back up later
[05:01] <lumpy> nini
[05:01] <OvenWerks> Bye now
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