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knomedocstringfreeze is on september 19, so any improvements done few weeks before that will be safely landing in saucy00:00
knome(at least)00:00
shawnbso what should I start with Saucy or Raring? I can do either00:01
knomelp:xubuntu-docs is the saucy branch00:01
knomeno more work will be done on the raring branch00:02
knome(unless there is a huge bug or sth)00:02
shawnbwhere can I find the changes that will be implemented in Saucy?00:02
knomethat's a good question.00:02
knomehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/00:03
knomethat's a starting point of what is planned00:03
knomeor http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-s/group/topic-s-flavor-xubuntu.html00:03
knomethat lists all work items and bugs that have been assigned00:03
knomethings tend to change and new stuff might come up while we go, so you might want to follow this channel, the developer mailing list and the meeting minutes, which are being updated at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings00:05
shawnbok, thank you so much; looking over the stuff00:14
knomenp :)00:15
shawnbso Mir is being implemented into 13.10?00:17
knomedecision is to be made00:18
knomexubuntu will need to use xmir at least00:18
shawnbhmmm... will it be an optional choice or are you thinking it'll completely replace X00:19
Unit193knome: Wasn't that to be decided?00:19
knomeUnit193, as i said, decision is to be made00:20
Unit193Yes, but with XMir.00:20
knomesure00:21
shawnbmakes sense, wouldn't want to drop application compatibility00:21
knomei mean, we can't use mir directly anyway00:21
knomeso it's at least xmir00:21
knomeand we haven't made a decision even about that00:21
shawnbI'm really curious about Mir itself, I may download the latest saucy build and test XMir out if a PPA is available00:22
Unit193https://launchpad.net/~mir-team/+archive/system-compositor-testing/+packages hasn't been updated for a bit, though.00:23
shawnbnow when I find an issue in the current documentation I don't need to report a bug or that right?00:37
knomeshawnb, if you're going to fix it, nope00:37
skellatSeen over in #ubuntu-release: (09:31:49 PM) infinity: [20:23:59] Oh look, it's the Mir MIR.  We've been waiting for that to happen.01:34
knomeduh :)01:37
skellatAlrighty, so we have LP Bug 1203207 saying that are no major bugs with Mir01:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1203207 in Unity System Compositor "[MIR] mir, unity-system-compositor" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120320701:43
skellatYet we have issues like LP Bug 110276001:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1102760 in Mir "Multi-monitor support incomplete - can't show different images on each screen" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110276001:43
skellatAnd LP Bug 119542501:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1195425 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) "Corrupted screen using radeon drivers" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119542501:43
skellatAnd LP Bug 119652201:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1196522 in Mir "Graphical glitches when running XMir on NVIDIA 6200" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119652201:44
skellatBy what definition of "major" are we using?01:44
Unit193It doesn't actually burn your hardware.01:44
skellatUnit193: Oh.  Major is defined as no burning hardware and no portals to nether-realms full of Lovecraftian creatures then?01:45
Noskcajskellat, That's why the game War-Z got released01:46
Noskcaj;)01:46
skellatDepending upon how long the Main Inclusion Report takes to clear, we're probably looking at Mir hitting archive sometime next week then which would *potentially* explain why the PPA isn't being updated perhaps01:47
NoskcajI really hope that doesn't break my PC. I'm running saucy now01:49
knomethere's a reason why development versions aren't ran on production machines.01:50
skellatUnit193: Could you pencil in say perhaps Wednesday for re-spinning the test image if this does hit the archive in time?01:50
skellatPlease01:51
Noskcajknome, it not my fault i'm stupid.01:51
skellatYou're just being rather exceptional brave right now Noskcaj bordering on the verge of recklessness.01:52
skellatNoskcaj: Backup early, Backup often01:53
NoskcajI found a stack of bugs then got sad because of the suspend bug. And i never back up. The most important thing is the time it took me to set up01:54
Unit193knome: You really want the ISO?  It'd be pretty much the same thing.01:54
knomei that means they can't say "you didn't test the latest version", i'm fine with the ISO01:55
knome*if01:55
knomeif we have the exact same version available, then don't bother01:55
Unit193http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mir-team/mir/trunk/changes/848?start_revid=832 832 to 848 are the changes.01:55
Unit193But sure, can either wait or do it now. :P01:56
knomeanything that makes sense to you01:56
knomeit's 5am, nothing makes for me01:56
knome:P01:56
Unit193Remember, I have weird, newfangled logic.01:57
skellatUnit193: I'd say wait until at least Wednesday to see if some changes actually drop01:57
Unit193Sounds good.01:58
skellatUnit193: If we don't have anything beyond the 832 to 848 set by then I will be worried01:58
Unit193Look at the staging repo.01:58
skellatUnit193: Link?01:58
Unit193https://launchpad.net/~mir-team/+archive/staging/+packages01:59
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knomezequence, hey! what's up in ubuntu studio development?09:25
knomehey jack! :)12:57
jjfrv8hey knome 12:58
elfyafternoon chaps and chapesses13:01
knomelol, hey elfy 13:02
elfyyou know how it is - I'd not like to get anymore hatez youz from pleia2 :)13:03
lderan:P13:04
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