[00:00] <knome> docstringfreeze is on september 19, so any improvements done few weeks before that will be safely landing in saucy
[00:00] <knome> (at least)
[00:01] <shawnb> so what should I start with Saucy or Raring? I can do either
[00:01] <knome> lp:xubuntu-docs is the saucy branch
[00:02] <knome> no more work will be done on the raring branch
[00:02] <knome> (unless there is a huge bug or sth)
[00:02] <shawnb> where can I find the changes that will be implemented in Saucy?
[00:02] <knome> that's a good question.
[00:03] <knome> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/
[00:03] <knome> that's a starting point of what is planned
[00:03] <knome> or http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-s/group/topic-s-flavor-xubuntu.html
[00:03] <knome> that lists all work items and bugs that have been assigned
[00:05] <knome> things tend to change and new stuff might come up while we go, so you might want to follow this channel, the developer mailing list and the meeting minutes, which are being updated at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings
[00:14] <shawnb> ok, thank you so much; looking over the stuff
[00:15] <knome> np :)
[00:17] <shawnb> so Mir is being implemented into 13.10?
[00:18] <knome> decision is to be made
[00:18] <knome> xubuntu will need to use xmir at least
[00:19] <shawnb> hmmm... will it be an optional choice or are you thinking it'll completely replace X
[00:19] <Unit193> knome: Wasn't that to be decided?
[00:20] <knome> Unit193, as i said, decision is to be made
[00:20] <Unit193> Yes, but with XMir.
[00:21] <knome> sure
[00:21] <shawnb> makes sense, wouldn't want to drop application compatibility
[00:21] <knome> i mean, we can't use mir directly anyway
[00:21] <knome> so it's at least xmir
[00:21] <knome> and we haven't made a decision even about that
[00:22] <shawnb> I'm really curious about Mir itself, I may download the latest saucy build and test XMir out if a PPA is available
[00:23] <Unit193> https://launchpad.net/~mir-team/+archive/system-compositor-testing/+packages hasn't been updated for a bit, though.
[00:37] <shawnb> now when I find an issue in the current documentation I don't need to report a bug or that right?
[00:37] <knome> shawnb, if you're going to fix it, nope
[01:34] <skellat> Seen over in #ubuntu-release: (09:31:49 PM) infinity: [20:23:59] Oh look, it's the Mir MIR.  We've been waiting for that to happen.
[01:37] <knome> duh :)
[01:43] <skellat> Alrighty, so we have LP Bug 1203207 saying that are no major bugs with Mir
[01:43] <skellat> Yet we have issues like LP Bug 1102760
[01:43] <skellat> And LP Bug 1195425
[01:44] <skellat> And LP Bug 1196522
[01:44] <skellat> By what definition of "major" are we using?
[01:44] <Unit193> It doesn't actually burn your hardware.
[01:45] <skellat> Unit193: Oh.  Major is defined as no burning hardware and no portals to nether-realms full of Lovecraftian creatures then?
[01:46] <Noskcaj> skellat, That's why the game War-Z got released
[01:46] <Noskcaj> ;)
[01:47] <skellat> Depending upon how long the Main Inclusion Report takes to clear, we're probably looking at Mir hitting archive sometime next week then which would *potentially* explain why the PPA isn't being updated perhaps
[01:49] <Noskcaj> I really hope that doesn't break my PC. I'm running saucy now
[01:50] <knome> there's a reason why development versions aren't ran on production machines.
[01:50] <skellat> Unit193: Could you pencil in say perhaps Wednesday for re-spinning the test image if this does hit the archive in time?
[01:51] <skellat> Please
[01:51] <Noskcaj> knome, it not my fault i'm stupid.
[01:52] <skellat> You're just being rather exceptional brave right now Noskcaj bordering on the verge of recklessness.
[01:53] <skellat> Noskcaj: Backup early, Backup often
[01:54] <Noskcaj> I found a stack of bugs then got sad because of the suspend bug. And i never back up. The most important thing is the time it took me to set up
[01:54] <Unit193> knome: You really want the ISO?  It'd be pretty much the same thing.
[01:55] <knome> i that means they can't say "you didn't test the latest version", i'm fine with the ISO
[01:55] <knome> *if
[01:55] <knome> if we have the exact same version available, then don't bother
[01:55] <Unit193> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mir-team/mir/trunk/changes/848?start_revid=832 832 to 848 are the changes.
[01:56] <Unit193> But sure, can either wait or do it now. :P
[01:56] <knome> anything that makes sense to you
[01:56] <knome> it's 5am, nothing makes for me
[01:56] <knome> :P
[01:57] <Unit193> Remember, I have weird, newfangled logic.
[01:57] <skellat> Unit193: I'd say wait until at least Wednesday to see if some changes actually drop
[01:58] <Unit193> Sounds good.
[01:58] <skellat> Unit193: If we don't have anything beyond the 832 to 848 set by then I will be worried
[01:58] <Unit193> Look at the staging repo.
[01:58] <skellat> Unit193: Link?
[01:59] <Unit193> https://launchpad.net/~mir-team/+archive/staging/+packages
[02:01]  * Unit193 slinks off...
[09:25] <knome> zequence, hey! what's up in ubuntu studio development?
[12:57] <knome> hey jack! :)
[12:58] <jjfrv8> hey knome 
[13:01] <elfy> afternoon chaps and chapesses
[13:02] <knome> lol, hey elfy 
[13:03] <elfy> you know how it is - I'd not like to get anymore hatez youz from pleia2 :)
[13:04] <lderan> :P