[00:02] <joshu_> ok Unit193  I see longer list of stuff
[00:02] <Unit193> joshu_: But, it's up to you however you want to set it up!
[00:03] <canin> "Ubuntu Forums is down for maintenance"
[00:03] <canin> Uhh....
[00:03] <genii> Indefinitely.
[00:04] <joshu_> Unit193 of course. As I said from the start I have a list of functionality which I think is quite straightforward, but I need help/ advice on how to get that functionality in a "minimal ubuntu os"
[00:04] <canin> Why are forums so easily hacked... it's not exactly hard making one secure from scratch...
[00:04] <joshu_> I guess I was just confused after doing the first two steps, e.g. ubuntu mini and lubuntu-core to find the things I did.
[00:05] <Unit193> canin: Who said they were easy?  And I wouldn't say it's easy to make from scratch at all...
[00:05] <Unit193> joshu_: Cool, so what's next?
[00:08] <joshu_> I don't know what to say :(
[00:10] <Unit193> joshu_: OK, I'd check what printer and scanner you have, and you'll want network-manager-vpnc or network-manager-openconnect for the VPN, right?
[00:10] <joshu_> the vpn is l2tp/ipsec
[00:11] <Unit193> So, network-manager-strongswan - "This package provides a VPN plugin for strongSwan, providing easy access to IKEv2 IPSec VPN's." ?
[00:11] <joshu_> the printer and scanner hasn't been purchased for this user yet as I wanted to know how to get the OS build first.
[00:13] <joshu_> for the vpn I think from googling it's network-manager-vpnc which is a plugin
[00:13] <joshu_> i think the strongswan plugin is for pure ipsec but I could be wrong
[00:15] <joshu_> hmm I think not vpnc that for cisco ipse
[00:27] <joshu_> you still there Unit193 I think I need l2tp-ipsec-von
[00:28] <Unit193> I'm here, yep.  Never done much with VPN, I generally stick to SSH and tunneling.
[00:28] <Unit193> !vpn
[00:28] <ubottu> For more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[00:28] <joshu_> ok no problem
[00:28] <joshu_> I'll figure out the VPN
[00:28] <joshu_> I'm more concerned with the base so to speak
[00:36] <joshu_> so Unit193 with lubuntu-core the laptop hardware should be supported out of the box and support for printer, scanner and usb modem should also not be a big deal if not requiring some config. As the OS stands the non-savvy user doesn't have a very easy task to ultimately work against the remote windows terminal server. THe user is greeted with a login window with lots of "unnecessary" options and once logged it had too many things that can
[00:36] <joshu_>  be clicked, messed up etc.
[00:37] <joshu_> If my goal with this is to provide the user with if not more or less hands-off experience from when the user has logged in to the RDP session has started how would you approach this?
[00:46] <Unit193> So the login window has too many options as does the desktop...  Remmina is one easy method with RDP, and can use freerdp as a backend.  I would think you could use a desktop, or autolaunch for that, but I've never needed to with remmina.  Is this correct in your case?
[00:50] <joshu_> I've used freerdp before on my mac, but haven't used remmina.
[00:51] <Unit193> GUI frontend, if you're interested.
[00:51] <joshu_> yes just googled it
[00:52] <joshu_> question is do I need remmina if I just want the user to login to the ubuntu OS and then plug in an ethernet cable or usb modem, start vpn connection and then execute freerdp?
[00:53] <Unit193> Nope.
[00:53] <joshu_> ok
[00:54] <joshu_> there's a lot of talk about lightdm when I google for info on how to do this
[00:54] <Unit193> I'd disable the guest account in lightdm, if you want to lock it down a little.
[00:55] <joshu_> sure I want a system that doesn't expose more than it needs to for the user to accidentally mess up
[00:55] <joshu_> are you familiar with purpose built thin clients such as Dell Wyse, HP, IGEL etc?
[00:56] <Unit193> I gnerally know of thin clients. yep.  Sounds pretty much want you're doing.
[00:57] <joshu_> yes exactly
[00:58] <joshu_> they're essentially dummies if configured to just present a login screen and once you authenticate your remote session whether rdp, vnc, citrix, vmware is launched and presented to you..you go to work and when you look of that session you're back at the login screen of the OS
[01:13] <joshu_> Unit193 just came across this http://askubuntu.com/questions/96641/xubuntu-desktop-minimal-installation/96660#96660
[01:24] <joshu_> ok I'm heading to bed I'll have to continue with this tomorrow. Thanks for your help Unit193 ;)
[01:24] <Unit193> Sure!  Have a good rest.
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[13:50] <pcman> did anyone see gilir?
[13:52] <Unit193> pcman: Last online a week and a day ago.
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[18:33] <melodie> could someone paste his synaptic.desktop file at some pastebin for me please? there is a detail which I quite don't understand and that might help me (or not)
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[20:55] <joshu_> hi 	 how can I find where network manager stores the mobile broadband settings?
[20:55] <Unit193> It's not in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ with the rest?
[20:58] <joshu_> hmm no not on my minimal install. As I can't edit network connections from network manager only change setup connections, I need to configure via command line
[21:55] <phillw> joshu_: have a look at the 2nd answer at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#Unmanaged_Wired_Network to get your network manager fully running.
[22:29] <joshu_> phillw thanks I've followed that earlier today to solve the unmanaged but, but it doesn't do anything for mobile broadband