[13:54] <Greylocks> how do you get focus follows mouse in gnome?
[13:55] <Dark_light> anyone using the saucy alpha on a daily basis  ?
[13:59] <roasted> I was up until last night.
[13:59] <roasted> I decided to bump back to 13.04 to see if any updates to the 3.8 kernel fixed my issue.
[13:59] <Dark_light> what issue?
[13:59] <roasted> I was using 13.10 to get away from the 3.8 kernel, as 3.8 introduced a problem for me and 3.10 kernel (in 13.10 ubuntu gnome alpha) fixed it.
[14:00] <roasted> my laptop would lock up randomly with no warning or error
[14:00] <Dark_light> oh yeah it's an issue with some intel hd audio cards I've been told, I've had the same issue I remember I just upgraded to the 3.9.something kernel and it disappeared
[14:00] <roasted> it was a GPU error, something about kernel 3.8 that enabled new features for Intel Sandy Bridge GPUs
[14:00] <roasted> oh you've seen it?
[14:01] <Dark_light> yeah
[14:01] <roasted> I was told it was GPU related
[14:01] <roasted> it locks up 100%
[14:01] <roasted> I can't move my mouse, sound locks up, everything 100% gridlock
[14:01] <Dark_light> it could be I never looked too much into it I just upgraded the kernel and that was it
[14:01] <roasted> well I was going to upgrade the kernel, but I wasn't sure how to plug in my broadcom wireless driver after that
[14:01] <Dark_light> the odd thing though is that on the same machine on gentoo and a 3.8 kernel I've never had a single issue
[14:02] <roasted> because if I go into additional drivers and reinstall it, it doesn't compile properly for some reason
[14:02] <roasted> yeah, it could be a 3.8 issue specific to ubuntu
[14:02] <roasted> I only tried mint and it did the same thing, but mint being ubuntu based is uh....
[14:02] <roasted> ya know
[14:02] <Dark_light> broadcom is a pain in the ass
[14:02] <Dark_light> how did you find saucy anyway ?
[14:02] <roasted> I liked it
[14:03] <roasted> I was surprised how not-terrible it was for being an alpha
[14:03] <roasted> the big reason I'm going back to 13.04 on this system is I need handbrake
[14:03] <roasted> and handbrake doesn't have any 13.10 packages yet
[14:03] <roasted> I figured it'd be an opportunity to see if any of the incremental 3.8.x updates for the 3.8 kernel fixed my issue.
[14:03] <roasted> otherwise I'll handbrake what I need and 13.10 it up again
[14:03] <Dark_light> that's good I can't stand having two online accounts that alone makes me want to upgrade to 3.10
[14:04] <roasted> I found it annoying too, but I use them infrequently enough I let it go.
[14:04] <roasted> Go in, set up, get out, done, ya know
[14:06] <Dark_light> I'm dd'ing the saucy iso on a usb stick right now, will test it in a few minutes
[14:08] <roasted> it's a good install. I'm super anxious for it.
[14:08] <roasted> I like what these devs are doing a lot.
[14:08] <roasted> It's fantastic to have a Gnome based Ubuntu fork. I get best of the two worlds I enjoy most while avoiding any Unity-based political crap. :P
[14:11] <Dark_light> here we go, I'll be back in a bit
[19:11] <ryan_> perhaps someone can help me(new to ubuntu), i just downloaded gnome desktop environment, with extra components, as far as I know it's been installed, but I see no difference.. is there something im supposed to do within the terminal?
[19:13] <roasted> if you installed it in the regular Ubuntu install you need to choose it at the login screen
[19:13] <roasted> log out and you'll see an icon, like a gear or something. select GNOME and log in
[19:13] <ryan_> ok, let me restart
[19:13] <roasted> I'm on my phone so I won't be of immediate assistance
[19:14] <roasted> but that's what it sounds like to me
[19:14] <roasted> give ita shot
[19:14] <ryan_> no worries, im a newbie :D
[19:14] <roasted> good luck :-)
[19:14] <ryan_> oh my, so many choices... gnome, gnome classic, gnome classic(no effects) lol
[19:15] <roasted> just select GNOME for the regular gnome shell
[19:15] <roasted> or gnome classic for a classic mode
[19:15] <roasted> I prefer GNOME shell under the GNOME option. personal preference
[19:20] <ryan_> good deal, that was easier than I thought
[19:36] <roasted> not everything in Linux is hard. :-)
[19:36] <ryan_> just a learning curve
[19:37] <ryan_> ive tried looking at some articles at "must have...after installing ubuntu" but im not really sure what ive done already and havent... as there was 238 updates as soon as i finished installing
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[20:20] <jbicha> darkxst_: Alpha2 is this week https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule
[21:15] <jbicha> darkxst_: I want to do a ug-default-settings upload, what should we set as the Firefox homepage?
[22:28] <darkxst_> jbicha, I like about:home if we can get that working
[22:33] <jbicha> darkxst_: so keep it broken for a bit longer in hopes someone will notice the bug and fix it? :)
[22:36] <darkxst_> jbicha, I guess
[22:36] <darkxst_> maybe I will look into it later
[22:50] <jbicha> one workaround would be to split ubufox into 2 extensions so that we can just not install the about:startpage one