[02:48] <ChedderFry> if you disobey god you will be tormented forever and ever day and night
[02:48] <ChedderFry> !ops | man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that comes out of the mouth of God (Matthew 4:4)
[02:48] <ChedderFry> aborition is also murder
[03:47]  * genii makes coffee
[05:56] <tsimpson> ^ irony
[05:58] <IdleOne> heh
[12:45] <Zakair> hi!
[12:46] <Zakair> how can I remove this lame unity thing?
[12:46] <Zakair> and add gnome or KDE Menu in my ubuntu distro?
[12:47] <k1l_> seems like stein visits us again
[12:48] <G_o_d> Hello
[12:56] <k1l_> seems like stein, lanser, x-s4nd3r , JonathanLopez, Chadman, lolster Agd_Scorp, dzup, is all the same troll
[14:27] <GiGaHuRtZ> Can I please be unbanned? I believe I was unfairly unbanned
[14:27] <GiGaHuRtZ> All I did was say OMFG. When I was told not to, I said I do not care about such language.
[14:28] <GiGaHuRtZ> then I was kicked by ikonia (who was giving an attitude to begin with when I was asking an question, as if he was better than me for knowing more than I)
[14:28] <GiGaHuRtZ> The kick message said (Come back when you care about language)
[14:28] <ikonia> hi GiGaHuRtZ
[14:28] <GiGaHuRtZ> So I did come back
[14:28] <GiGaHuRtZ> And he immediately banned me
[14:28] <ikonia> I asked you not to use language - you said you didn't care, I kicked you
[14:29] <GiGaHuRtZ> If he claims i was banned because I said "LOL", that had NOTHING to do with him
[14:29] <GiGaHuRtZ> I said LOL because BluesKaj mentioned using the liquorix kernel
[14:29] <ikonia> you came back and said "LMAO" which is also the same language style I asked you not to use, and also "laughing" about the fact that I'd asked you/kicked you for not using accepable language
[14:29] <GiGaHuRtZ> Which is actually the same kernel I already use
[14:29] <GiGaHuRtZ> ikonia: Oh god
[14:29] <GiGaHuRtZ> give me a break
[14:29] <ikonia> hence why you then got banned and I asked you to join this channel when you no longer found it funny to be rude like this
[14:29] <GiGaHuRtZ> I was not laughing about you
[14:29] <GiGaHuRtZ> I already told you this via PM
[14:29] <ikonia> I've not got a pm from you,
[14:30] <GiGaHuRtZ> I was laughing at what blueskaj suggested
[14:30] <ikonia> if I have I've missed it
[14:30] <GiGaHuRtZ> Well then thats too bad
[14:30] <GiGaHuRtZ> you did. I pm'd you 3 times explainming
[14:30] <ikonia> ok
[14:30] <GiGaHuRtZ> I was laughing at blueskaj. He suggested I used liquorix
[14:30] <ikonia> we'll I'll leave you to it then, you can talk to one of the other operators, as I don't believe you personally
[14:30] <GiGaHuRtZ> It was iroonically funny, because I already use liquorix
[14:31] <ikonia> ok
[14:31] <GiGaHuRtZ> And I even am using the config of liquorix, to compile the 3.11 kernel
[14:31] <ikonia> hopefully one of the other operators is available
[14:31] <GiGaHuRtZ> So that is why I found it funny
[14:31] <GiGaHuRtZ> Sorry if you missed my attempt at humor. But it had abolsutely squat to do with you.
[14:31] <ikonia> and just to confirm to the other operators, I did get a pm from GiGaHuRtZ stating this also, I just missed it
[14:31] <GiGaHuRtZ> And if you really believe such, well that is too bad.
[14:32] <GiGaHuRtZ> Im sorry
[14:32] <ikonia> thank you
[14:33] <GiGaHuRtZ> And regarding the PM, I was typing the PM's to him like 3 seconds after he banned me. It wasn't some sort "lie" I developed in my head. It was my immediate response because I felt I should explain the truth of the situation
[14:33] <ikonia> please also don't make things up - suggesting I was better than you, you asked for my opinion, I gave it.
[14:33] <GiGaHuRtZ> I have the things you said to me.
[14:33] <ikonia> I've just stated you pm'd me so there was no confusion in that
[14:33] <ikonia> I simple missed the pm
[14:33] <GiGaHuRtZ> ikonia: And I detailing the timing of the PM
[14:34] <ikonia> I do'nt doubt you
[14:34] <ikonia> i've just said "you did pm me and I just missed it"
[14:34] <GiGaHuRtZ> So they do not think I was sitting around thinking of the "lie" before I pm'd you
[14:34] <ikonia> I can see the time, here is time stamps
[14:34] <GiGaHuRtZ> But they cannot
[14:34] <GiGaHuRtZ> And you are claiming I am lying about the reason I laughed
[14:34] <ikonia> yes, I'm stating I don't believe you
[14:34] <GiGaHuRtZ> So I want to give my side to the story. As that is only fair.
[14:34] <GiGaHuRtZ> that's fine.
[14:35] <ikonia> there is no other side - I've just confirmed that you pm'd me the same informaiton in this channel
[14:35] <GiGaHuRtZ> I don't believe what you said towards the end of our dialogue in the channel wasn't constructed in a "sarcastic manner"
[14:35] <GiGaHuRtZ> No other side? They have no idea what my reasoning was, only what your was to this point
[14:36] <GiGaHuRtZ> this channel is for the purpose of resolving these issues. And I am giving as much detail as possible in order to do just that
[14:36] <ikonia> yes, and I've just stated I confirm %100 that what you said to me in pm is the same as the channel, so you have your reasoning confirmed
[14:36] <ikonia> I'm actually confirming what you've said
[14:36] <GiGaHuRtZ> Maybe you were not being sarcastic, but to me, it came across as that.  Just like to you, you think my laughing came across as being directed towards you.
[14:37] <GiGaHuRtZ> You did not state the timing of my PM. Which is all I was adding
[14:37] <GiGaHuRtZ> too backup the fact that I was not siiting aronud thinking of false explanations for actions.
[14:37] <ikonia> I've not stated any timing of the pm
[14:37] <GiGaHuRtZ> right
[14:37] <ikonia> I've CONFIRMED you sent me a pm
[14:37] <GiGaHuRtZ> But I have
[14:37] <ikonia> I said I MISSED IT
[14:38] <ikonia> it was MY FAULT that I missed it
[14:38] <GiGaHuRtZ> I said "You did NOT state the time of my PM"
[14:38] <ikonia> I can't be bothered with this,
[14:38] <ikonia> bye
[14:38] <GiGaHuRtZ> What in world is the misunderstanding with that?
[14:38] <GiGaHuRtZ> Wow
[14:38] <GiGaHuRtZ> This really is not complex
[14:38] <ikonia> no, it' snot
[14:38] <GiGaHuRtZ> I'm sorry you seem so frustrated over so little this morning.
[14:38] <ikonia> you used bad language, I asked you not to
[14:38] <GiGaHuRtZ> Yup
[14:38] <ikonia> you refused - I kicked you
[14:38] <GiGaHuRtZ> I used an acronym
[14:39] <GiGaHuRtZ> That is used 100000's of times on this network in 99.98 percent of the channels here
[14:39] <ikonia> you came back and just said "LMAO" which is 1.) the langauge type I asked you not to use a few lines up 2.) my personal believe that you where laughing at being kicked as you said you didn't care about the consiquences
[14:39] <ikonia> I banned you
[14:39] <GiGaHuRtZ> We all know what happened. And I even added more detail.
[14:39] <ikonia> I missed a pm from you stating that was not the reason
[14:39] <ikonia> I'm not in a frustrated position at all
[14:39] <GiGaHuRtZ> LMAO could be thought of many ways. And honestly, I just meant to type LOL
[14:40] <GiGaHuRtZ> ikonia: you said you were done
[14:40] <ikonia> ok, then I'll leave it there
[14:40] <GiGaHuRtZ> That is fine.
[14:40] <GiGaHuRtZ> And I will stay here, and provide any more information as needed. Which is all I was doing, to support my case. And you just turned it into a large argument for some reason.
[14:41] <ikonia> GiGaHuRtZ: if there are no other operators available (which I hope there is)
[14:41] <ikonia> you need to /part the channel and come back later when there is
[14:41] <ikonia> (hopefuly there is though)
[14:41] <GiGaHuRtZ> Um. That is not how it is handled
[14:41] <GiGaHuRtZ> And I know that from experience
[14:41] <GiGaHuRtZ> You part when your problem has been solved
[14:41] <ikonia> GiGaHuRtZ: that IS how it's handled, and you have experience dealing with the ubuntu-ops
[14:42] <GiGaHuRtZ> "Please part after your problem has been dealt with"
[14:42] <ikonia> give it 10 minutes or so, if noe-one is around, come back a little later on
[14:42] <chu> It's obvious you haven't read the Ubuntu guidelines GiGaHuRtZ, so perhaps take some time off and read this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[14:42] <GiGaHuRtZ> Oh I have
[14:43] <chu> Well then you would have read the second sentence in the "Language and Subject" paragraph which contradicts your actions.
[14:43] <GiGaHuRtZ> It's called an mistake.  I am used to the functioning of 99.98 of the other channels out there on Freenode.,
[14:43] <GiGaHuRtZ> Oh I have seen it
[14:44] <GiGaHuRtZ> Heck, even #kubuntu will not kick you for saying LMAO or something as equally small.
[14:45] <GiGaHuRtZ> It's a very common used online. And I made a mistake by not thinking of the particular rules of the channel at the time I said.
[14:45] <GiGaHuRtZ> For that, I am sorry. Really am.
[14:50] <Corey> That is appreciated, truly.
[14:51] <GiGaHuRtZ> Corey: Not a problem. this has turned into a much bigger mess then it should have.
[14:52] <GiGaHuRtZ> My mistake of course. But there has been an mistunderstanding on both of our parts it seems.
[14:52] <ikonia> no, there has not
[14:53] <ikonia> please don't suggest things on my behalf
[14:53] <GiGaHuRtZ> You really are going to start this again?
[14:53]  * GiGaHuRtZ facepalms
[14:54] <GiGaHuRtZ> Ok. If I cannot state that there is a misunderstanding, then I guess I should just say that I really thought that he was being sarcastic towards me after he couldn't help me with the question in the first couple minutes.
[14:54] <GiGaHuRtZ> And that is truly how I felt at the time. But, it may have been a misunderstanding on my part.
[14:55] <GiGaHuRtZ> Corey: Are you still around?
[14:59] <Corey> GiGaHuRtZ: Sorry, I'm on patchy wifi in an airport.
[15:02] <GiGaHuRtZ> Corey: its alright
[15:08] <ikonia> GiGaHuRtZ: if I remove the ban in #ubuntu - are you confident you can keep it together with your language/attiude rather than smart comments suchs as "I don't care about the consiquences" when asked to not do something ?
[15:09] <GiGaHuRtZ> Yes
[15:09] <ikonia> ok, I'll remove the ban
[15:09] <GiGaHuRtZ> Thank you sir.
[15:09] <ikonia> don't need to call me sir, but I appreciate you're trying to be polite
[15:09] <ikonia> the bans been removed for you
[18:25] <knome> Myrtti, you're not on -fi yourself? boo
[18:25] <Myrtti> nope, enough channels without it
[18:26] <Myrtti> 30 or so
[18:35] <knome> i'm not there either
[18:35] <knome> some -fi op here? he's swearing and stuff