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greg-g_heh, oops: http://ubuntuforums.org/announce.html00:27
greg-g_neat: http://www.ghostscript.com/pipermail/gs-devel/2013-February/009410.html00:35
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jrwrenfreedom haters01:57
greg-gfreedom ain't free, buddy02:02
jrwreneternal vigilance :)02:29
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smlr-hangoutSMLR is live (show prep for now) Video: http://www.youtube.com/embed/1_D8XyXMX0s - Audio http://live.smlr.us:8000/streaming12:21
smlr-hangoutSMLR is chatting in freenode #smlr12:22
jrwrentis a shame ubuntu isn't listed here: https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/13:41
rick_hyea14:15
rick_hoh well14:15
brousch1rick_h: I'm listening to the new Django podcast and they basically said Pyramid is for projects that are too big and complicated for Django16:32
rick_hbrousch1: lmao!16:53
rick_hbrousch1: so I shouldn't show them the multiple tiny small apps I use pyramid on then, that would get 2x as complicated if I used django16:53
rick_hlike my redis based app I use for breadability that couldn't use the django orm or admin anyway...16:54
brousch1Yeah. I think by complicated they mean the Django components don't fit the solution very well17:00
rick_hyea17:01
rick_hso if flask is for the small stuff, and pyramid for the big stuff...17:01
brousch1If you're a Django users, then simple problems are ones that django can solve simply17:01
brousch1All other problems must be complicated17:02
brousch1So Flask is for small complicated problems and Pyramid is for big complicated problems17:02
rick_hand django gets to be the VB of the python web dev world?17:03
brousch1heh17:03
rick_h'it is easy and does simple things simply' ?17:03
brousch1They also said something like Pyramid can pull from a wider ecosystem17:03
rick_hyea, python...and wsgi...17:03
rick_hwelcome to the modern python web world17:03
brousch1There were like 3 hosts and a guest on the podcast, so I don't know who actually said these things17:04
rick_hjust make sure I don't hear it so my wife won't catch me screaming at my phone :)17:05
brousch1I thought you would be happy with those comments17:05
rick_hno, because it just makes people talking about django on a podcast (which I would assume if you're on a django podcast you know wtf you're saying) are more clueless than I generally think of django users :P17:06
rick_hI chat with some serious django people and I can at least respect them usually. This kind of talk would drive me bonkers17:08
snap-lGood morning everyone17:10
snap-lAnd good afternoon17:10
snap-l(catching up. :) )17:10
rick_hparty party17:10
rick_hlawn catch-up break here myself17:11
snap-lLovely.17:11
rick_hthe joys of traveling...no little elfs at home keeping up with the lawn care, grocery shopping, laundry...17:11
rick_hdamn elves17:11
snap-lWell, we had an impromptu refrigerator cleaning yesterday.17:12
rick_hhah, and I spelled that two different ways by saying it one way in my head but another in text17:12
snap-lAnd I found out something about Royal Oak17:12
rick_hyea, power back yay!17:12
rick_hI think we can stop calling that a "brownout"17:12
snap-lapparently they only will use 32gal trash containers17:12
rick_hyou lost power man17:12
snap-lso I now have a 50gal useless bin in the side porch17:12
snap-lYeah17:12
rick_hsnap-l: what is it? If you can't use it maybe I can put it to use and buy it off you17:13
snap-lIt's a Ginormous Rubbermaid Brute 50gal17:13
snap-llet me see if I can find it17:13
snap-lIt's yours gratis if you want it17:14
snap-lhttp://www.homedepot.com/p/Rubbermaid-Commercial-Products-Brute-50-gal-Gray-Rollout-Trash-Container-with-Lid-FG9W27-28GRA17:14
rick_hooh, yea. That might be cool17:14
snap-lI wrote our address on it in sharpie, and it has been used once17:14
snap-lWill clean it out as best I can17:14
rick_hlol17:15
snap-lgod, people are asking folks to spread the word about tje hacked forhms18:06
snap-lunfortunately nobody had the foresight to see the other posts saying the same thing18:07
snap-lconsider it informed. sheesh.18:07
snap-lalso the only way tjis would need spreading is if there were more isers that didnt ise said forums than do18:09
rick_hyea, can't tell if jcastro is so happy or sad. the discourse page got linked as a place to ask for help as a replacement.18:13
rick_hgood thing that's on juju and can hopefully scale up :)18:13
snap-lHonestly, if the forums just up and disappeared I'd be a happy man18:23
snap-lBut I know there's a community there, and people would get (rightfully) pissed18:23
snap-lBut seriously, bulldoze the teen center and put in a skate park.18:24
snap-lNuke it from orbit18:24

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