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Kalimdorjust changed now00:00
floogyHi, I  got issues with ubuntu one. It seems that I'm no longer able to publish files.00:00
zykotick9Kalimdor: are you rebooting, or restarting lightdm to test?00:00
floogyNeither with the webui nor with a right click. I'm on 12.0400:01
pozhi guys, quick question. If I upgrade from 12.04 to 13.04, will i loss my currently installed programs/settings?00:01
zykotick9floogy: there is a ubuntuone channel, probably #ubuntuone00:01
pozor is it seemless, as if i wouldnt even notice?00:01
SonikkuAmerica!flavors00:01
ubottu!Kubuntu and !Xubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with KDE and Xfce (respectively) installed as default, instead of Unity. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio,  !Mythbuntu, and !Lubuntu00:01
kernsprogpoz: no you won't.00:01
niranjan#/openwrt00:01
zipysudo mount -o loop,ro,offset=71680 /media/truecrypt1/bkp/pi/bkp_xbian.img /media/bkp <- i need filesystem type, how can i add it -ot? and where do i put the type00:02
floogyzykotick9, thanks00:02
pozkernsprog, no i won't, what?00:02
kernsprogpoz: i answered your question.00:02
floogypoz, it's not intended to lost configurations on upgrade.00:02
Kalimdorzykotick9: brb reboot00:02
zykotick9Kalimdor: just restart lightdm!00:02
pozoh okay00:02
pozso whats the code to upgrade from 12.04 to 13.04?00:03
kernsprogpoz: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade00:03
zykotick9kernsprog: WRONG!!!00:03
zykotick9!dist-upgrad3e00:03
zykotick9!dist-upgrade00:03
ubottuA dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.00:03
zykotick9!upgrade00:03
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade00:04
noTchzykotick9: here00:04
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kernsprogright, sorry my bad. lol00:04
zipysudo mount -o loop,ro,offset=71680 /media/truecrypt1/bkp/pi/bkp_xbian.img /media/bkp <- i need filesystem type, how can i add it -ot? and where do i put the type00:04
kernsprogbecause i never upgrade.00:04
zykotick9kernsprog: ummm, if you never use dist-upgrade on your boxes, how do you deal with kernel updates/etc?  do you use the gui as well ;)00:05
wilee-nileekernsprog, You will go through 12.10, now you have to ask yourself is it worth it. ;)00:05
zykotick9wilee-nilee: i think poz is upgrading ;)00:05
wilee-nileegood muhhahha00:05
kernsprogzykotick9: i do dist-upgrade yes. but not upgrade distro versions.00:05
kernsprogzykotick9: i use gui, yes. why do you ask that?00:06
Proxywars_This is the error report: http://pastebin.com/JBKbh62P00:06
zykotick9kernsprog: k ... just checkin'  'cause dist-upgrade is the equivalent text command for upgrading a system to the GUI updater.  dist-upgrade is very misunderstood, it's actually the exact same as full-upgrade alias in aptitude at least]00:07
pozwilee-nilee, why is that good?00:07
Kalimdorzykotick9: reloged00:07
kernsprogzykotick9: correct. i know that. i don't use the gui updater. i don't even have it installed. i removed it out.00:08
Kalimdorzykotick9: login, didnt get a change00:09
zykotick9kernsprog: ahhh, doesn't that break the ubuntu-desktop (and probably all the others as well) metapackage?  be warned, you need that to update to new versions...00:09
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pozwilee-nilee, do I really have to upgrade to 12.10 to get to 13.04?00:09
pozso basically 12.0400:09
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zykotick9poz: yes - you can't skip releases (with the LTS->LTS exception)00:10
pozso basically 12.04 ---> 12.10 --> 13.0400:10
kernsprogzykotick9: admittedly, i don't have ubuntu-desktop installed. i have no issues.00:10
Kalimdorzykotick9: only after the login both monitors changes to 1024x76800:10
zykotick9kernsprog: just be aware you can't go to the next ubuntu release without at least one *-desktop installed ;)00:10
wilee-nileepoz, For me it is a time thing, I have a save system so I always fresh install, takes about a half hour to have it all the same.00:11
pozzykotick9, is that difficult to do from your experience?00:11
kernsprogzykotick9: if i have to update versions, i just reinstall. i have a seriously hacked elementaryOS desktop. understand, my system is not your everday ubuntu system. highly customized behind the scenes.00:11
zykotick9Kalimdor: seriously?  then it's something is your user account settings - I have NO clue for you... sorry.  At this point, I'm chalking this one up to an ubuntu issue i can't deal with ;)  sorry man/woman/person... best of luck.00:12
americohttp://ubottu.com/y/dl00:12
zykotick9poz: when i ran ubuntu, i never updated.  i'd always fresh install (a lot of others do this as well).00:12
pozi see00:12
floogyzykotick9, In #ubuntuone nobody seems to answer that question.  Maybe someone here knows how to publish a synced file in u1 http://askubuntu.com/questions/309448/publish-a-file-fails-cannot-access-web-link-a-file-is-no-longer-published00:13
Kalimdorzykotick9: i guess something like ARandR or ... is the main problem00:13
zykotick9floogy: i have 0 interest in helping with an u1 issue.  but typically not a lot of people in #ubuntu know either (not as bad as wubi, but you get my idea).  i pointed you to the other channel in hopes someone there would hear your plea and have an "idea" of what to do.  'cause I sure don't!  good luck though (i did use u1 with 10.04 when it first came out ;)00:14
Kalimdorzykotick9: and they dont use xorg.conf, theres a "Display" on my Settings also00:14
zykotick9Kalimdor: did you install any gui frontends to xrandr?00:15
shanhi, i tried to install win98 and i lost all partitions except 1. what i did to install win98 is that i hide ntfs partition(primary/active). now i lost linux partition and few others. somehow i managed to recover one partition with data on it and there still another partition with important data. but i get error while recovering that partition.00:15
shani think some sectors problem....00:15
Kalimdorzykotick9: is that compiz?00:15
zykotick9Kalimdor: no, like grandr (i'm sure there are others as well, kde stuff, etc.)00:15
Kalimdorzykotick9: i have only KDE ARandR and Gnome here ^_^00:16
floogyzykotick9, thank you anyway. Maybe somebody can give me a hint.00:16
zykotick9Kalimdor: KDE ARandR - i wonder if it's settings could be applied to your user account?  totally guess on my part.00:16
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wilee-nileeshan, Not sure ubuntu support has any relevance, you did you the word linux not ubuntu.00:16
wilee-nileeuse*00:17
Kalimdorzykotick9: i should check those thanks anyway00:17
Kalimdorzykotick9: good luck00:17
shanwilee-nilee | i mean ubuntu.00:17
shanwilee-nilee | i mostly call ubuntu/kubuntu/mint = linux. :p00:18
SonikkuAmerica!linux | shan00:18
ubottushan: Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as a kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux00:18
Guest24598hello do anyone know a program i can download thats kinda like 7 zip but is on the software manager?00:18
wilee-nileeshan, we don't mint is not supported, most will suggest testdisk, NO backups eh?00:18
zykotick9shan: if you installed win98 onto the same drive as other OSes - i'd guess you deleted everything...00:18
Guest21893so, i've noticed (by continuously running netstat) that when you're connected to things and you pull the plug at the network manager level, those connections will prety much indefinitely stay 'established'; at least until you terminate the application that made them or use some other form of halting like pausing a download... (questions to follow)00:19
Guest24598hello can some one help me?!00:19
saiarcot895Guest24598: there is the Archive Manager that's installed by default00:19
saiarcot895Guest24598: also, be patient00:19
Guest24598but it does not work i tryed00:19
Guest21893so i'm wondering if you reestablish the connection.. on a vpn, and you've set up iptables to block the non-vpn stuff, does that lingering established connection leak information?00:20
saiarcot895Guest24598: in what way does it not work?00:20
Guest24598idk :/00:20
shanwilee-nilee | no space or alternate for the partition(unallocated space), it's almost half of whole parition.00:20
saiarcot895Guest21893: I think established connections stay established, so you could say yes00:20
Guest24598it just wont open tha files i need open :(00:21
Guest24598t?00:21
shanzykotick9 | i never succeeded to install win98 and lost paritition.00:21
saiarcot895Guest24598: what format is the file compressed in?00:21
Guest24598jar00:21
zykotick9shan: doesn't surpise me at all, but if win98 got to the partition stage - ohhhhhh00:21
saiarcot895Guest24598: I can right click on a jar file and select Open With > Archive Manager00:21
saiarcot895Guest24598: what version of Ubuntu are you on?00:22
Guest21893ok, so saiarcot895 or anyone else, is there any way to 'fix' that? so that connections actually lose establishment when the 'plug is pulled'00:22
shanzykotick9 | win98 have nothing to do with those spaces, it's coz of utility i used to hide NTFS.00:22
Guest24598one moment plz ummm peprmint00:22
zykotick9shan: check out testdisk for a linux partition recovery program (i've only used it's "photorec" program myself) - it's non-trivial, but might help?00:22
joshu_is there an official plugin for network manager to connect to a vpn via l2tp/ ipsec?00:22
saiarcot895Guest24598: peppermint?00:22
joshu_I can find plugins for openvpn and cisco ipsec, but not for l2tp/ipsec00:22
shanzykotick9 | i tried. it show some error.00:23
joshu_i'm on ubuntu 13.0400:23
zykotick9!info testdisk00:23
ubottutestdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.13-1ubuntu2 (raring), package size 516 kB, installed size 1201 kB00:23
punzillahi all, I need some assistance, last week I was able to use my Logitech usb cam as a microphone although I'm now unable to use this00:23
saiarcot895Guest21893: the only idea I have is killing the program that is using the connection00:24
punzillait is not showing up as an input device in the "sound settings"00:24
saiarcot895Guest21893: of course, if the program is necessary for Ubuntu, well, killing it is not a good idea00:24
saiarcot895Guest24598: Peppermint OS?00:24
punzillathe lsusb command shows that it is connected...00:24
punzillaBus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:0990 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Pro 900000:24
Guest21893saiarcot895: is there any command that would forcibly cause all established connections to terminate?00:25
Guest24598yea sry spelling00:26
Guest24598sry my Internet connection has been interrupted00:26
Guest24598ye00:26
saiarcot895Guest21893: tcpkill (see http://www.cyberciti.biz/howto/question/linux/kill-tcp-connection-using-linux-netstat.php for some examples)00:27
saiarcot895Guest24598: this is the Ubuntu support forum00:27
saiarcot895Guest24598: we don't support Peppermint OS00:27
saiarcot895Guest24598: they have a support forum at http://peppermintos.net/00:28
shanhow to run testdisk from ubuntu? i'm using usb live....00:28
Guest24598ik00:28
Guest24598:(00:28
Guest24598k00:28
Guest24598ok thx00:28
FloodBot1Guest24598: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:28
Guest24598?00:29
Guest21893saiarcot895: what if it's not tcp00:29
saiarcot895Guest21893: generally, connections to servers/websites will be tcp or udp00:29
saiarcot895Guest21893: if it's not tcp, cutter might work00:30
saiarcot895Guest21893: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/cutting-the-tcpip-network-connection-with-cutter.html00:31
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Foobar013Hi! I did a minimal install and now that I boot the system I have no internet connection.00:36
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punzillaHi if I could get help on my webcam issue please.00:38
punzillaubuntu is unable to detect it as a sound device.00:38
punzillaie microphone device = does anyone know what I can do00:38
punzillato have it detected.00:38
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zykotick9punzilla: does alsa see it as a sound device?  "cat /proc/asound/cards"00:39
PaintBucketHello, again00:40
blazemoreShould an op put the Ubuntu Forums security breach announcement in the topic?00:40
blazemoreOh never mind, the entire site has been replaced with the message anyway00:41
Foobar013My wireless was set by the instalation in /etc/network/interfaces, but doesnt get an ip. I also tried giving it an static ip but yet no connection. Then I plugged ethernet and added it to that file, and also doesnt get an ip, nor workd with ststic00:41
pfifoHi fellas00:41
zykotick9Foobar013: paste.ubuntu.com your interfaces file00:42
recurs1veHi  pfifo00:42
PaintBucketAnyone experienced with an odd issue of 13.04 having skipping/stuttering audio and video playback?00:42
C130RG #idz200:43
punzillano it doesn't see it as a sound device.00:43
punzillajust a moment I'll pastebin it.00:43
zykotick9PaintBucket: if it's video - then graphics driver / source is the two most likely issues....00:43
recurs1veMainly with flash video00:44
zykotick9recurs1ve: flash sucks ;)  no matter what you do.  best of luck.00:44
punzillahttp://pastebin.com/djbZcaKN00:44
punzillazykotick9 that's what my ubuntu setup sees00:44
PaintBucketi've only been able to test the video being affected with Youtube.  But, I know even using rythem box to play a song skips.00:44
zykotick9punzilla: fyi, i don't visit pastebin.com links... :(..00:44
recurs1vezykotick9: true00:44
pfifoIve sucessfully setup my hp all-in-one for printing on my 12.04 server, now im trying to add the printer to my 12.04 laptop as a network printer, The laptop is not getting the ppd file from the server, if I remember correctly, I need to put the ppd file someplace specific on my server so that it can be accessed by remote machines. Does this ring a bell with anyone? Its been about 3 years since I did the printer serup last (just upgraded my server from 10.0400:45
pfifo:D)00:45
punzillaoh ok.00:45
recurs1veThat's why I use vlc for flash streaming00:45
zykotick9!paste > punzilla00:45
ubottupunzilla, please see my private message00:45
punzillahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5895803/00:45
zykotick9punzilla: i don't see any mention of the USB camera :( as a pure sound device there?00:46
Foobar013zykotick9: http://paste.debian.net/plainh/0515fd2100:46
PaintBucketZykotick9: I'm not sure it's that. I've had this problem on my previous install too but, something I did magically fixed it. I haven't messed with graphics drivers at all00:47
PaintBucketI just can't figure out of the billion things I've done which solved it since it was a byproduct of something else.00:47
punzillayeah that's right. It was there in the past00:47
punzilla(maybe a week ago).00:47
zykotick9Foobar013: well, you certainly have the two "auto" lines in there - which i wasn't expecting, given you description of you issue!  are those devices getting created?  are you use both devices are actually 0?00:48
veryhappyhi. is there any way to make a computer that doesn't have a bios setting for wake up on usb start on usb keyboard or doesn't that work at all for a ps2 keyboard and mouse to usb converter?00:48
zykotick9PaintBucket: are you currently using Gnash or Proprietary Adobe?  or is this chromium/chrome?  what browser is it ;)00:49
Foobar013zykotick9: i created the eth0 interface because its easier to setup than the wifi... But, yet, i dont have connection on neither00:49
Foobar013zykotick9: yes, they are created automatically00:50
pfifoahh, disregard my question, i simply negleted to actually share the printer, lol00:50
zykotick9Foobar013: "created" eth0 device??? ahh, only the kernel can do that...00:50
Foobar013zykotick9: no, i said the interface. The device was already there00:50
vale_Hey everyone, quick question; How does one disable the title / borders by default?00:50
c_smithtgm4883: so, after a half-hour of fighting with fglrx. then taking a break and walking down the street to get a fountain drink, then another 45 minutes of fighting with fglrx, all after following the link you gave me, I got fglrx working.00:51
vale_(On Terminals and well.. Actually everything, but mostly terminals)00:51
c_smithtgm4883: the link you gave me was the key,00:51
PaintBucketZykotick: It's firefox. I'm not sure which I'm using honestly. Just which ever comes standard.00:52
zykotick9Foobar013: i don't see anything wrong with your interfaces!  (but i could be blind?)  sorry i don't have any suggestions :(  best of luck.00:53
Foobar013zykotick: ok, thanks anyway00:53
vale_Does noone know how to disable the title / borders at the top of terminals?00:54
zykotick9!tab > PaintBucket00:54
ubottuPaintBucket, please see my private message00:54
zykotick9PaintBucket: try right clicking on a flash video.  do you see adobe anywhere, or something about gnash?00:54
zykotick9!tab > Foobar01300:55
ubottuFoobar013, please see my private message00:55
PaintBucketzykotick9, okay. I see about Adobe.00:55
zykotick9PaintBucket: ok, well, best of luck - that "probably" as good as flash is gonna get for ya! - reminder, i h8 flash ;)00:56
pfifoI have a HARD question here, I setup network-manager to use a static ip address on my server, I set my DNS to google DNS (8.8.8.8) However after reboot I notice my /etc/resolv.conf file still has the info from my router in it (nameserver 127.0.0.1 \n search Belkin)... so here goes... Since Im using static IP addressing, do I need to edit my /etc/resolv.conf manually to use my desired DNS servers or is network-manager dropping the ball here?00:56
zykotick9PaintBucket: certainly verify your flash is as up-to-date as ubuntu repos!00:56
PaintBucketzykotick9,  Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's not an issue with flash since rythmbox skips too.00:57
veryhappycan i make a modern pc wake up on a ps2 keyboard over ps2 to usb converter even if it doesn't have such a setting in acpi settings?00:57
Foobar013zykotick9: tab on webchat? No00:57
mon2908Shouldn't you set the DNS Adress in your router?00:57
zykotick9PaintBucket: oh, so it's not a video issue then... that was my first statement...  if it's all round audio stuttering, then i have 0 idea.  good luck - audio have worked 95% of the time for me in gnu/linux...00:58
zykotick9Foobar013: well, you got my nick correct that time, so i was highlighted.  which makes things easier for me.  if you are using webcaht - i feel sorry for you ;)  sorry for the tab suggestion as well.  but web-chat-sucks ;)00:59
PaintBucketzykotick9, Yeah, it's systemwide. Thanks, I'm sure I'll eventually figure it out. I -thought- it was something that I picked up in an update but, I seem to be up to date now.01:00
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zykotick9PaintBucket: to be honest, i did have an audio issues recently - of the audio device switching on reboots, and it showed me 2 things.  1) how little i "really" now about audio under gnu/linus and 2) what a pain in the ass audio issue are.  seriously, best of luck!01:01
Foobar013Well, I dont need to explain you that, but... I dont have network on my pc (thats why im here), so webchat is only option ;)01:01
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PaintBucketlol01:02
PaintBucketYeah, it's a headache. Thanks for trying though.01:02
* zykotick9 thinks the typo gnu/linus - s and x are very close - is a funny typo ;)01:02
joubinHas anyone attempted to load the ubuntu phone os onto a Nexus 4 yet?01:02
mon2908Not me. Sorry.01:03
joubinActually, I just learned there is a #ubuntu-touch01:03
wilee-nileezykotick9, Your Freudian slip is showing. ;)01:03
zykotick9mon2908: honestly, if everyone with a "not me" answered, do you think this channel could get anything done?01:03
zykotick9wilee-nilee: nice ;)01:04
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aegisAre there any bind9 and dnsmasq gurus here that could help me with a problem I'm having with forwarding dns queries?01:12
standoohow much memory does a stripped down ubuntu use?01:12
Psil0cybinstandoo, no idea but if you use Lubuntu01:13
Psil0cybinyou will use less memory then Ubuntu01:13
Psil0cybinor even Xubuntu01:13
ianorlinyep01:13
Psil0cybintry other forks if you want stripped down versions01:13
standooi'm using this for server01:14
standoosomething like Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail)01:14
pfifostandoo, I have lubuntu on a 1.7ghz single core laptop with 256mb of memory, runs great, uses all of the available memory and 200MB or so of swap01:14
Psil0cybinpfifo, thats really neat :)01:15
Psil0cybinim using Xubuntu on my 1GB memory and its fantastic01:15
Psil0cybini loveeee it01:15
Psil0cybincomparing windows 7 and XUbuntu on this laptop is out of this world.01:15
Psil0cybinthe difference01:15
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Psil0Cybini actually completely abandoned using windows a few months ago.01:15
zykotick9standoo: how much ram do you have?  starting from mini or server, i'd think you'd still probably want 512MB+...01:15
pfifostandoo, without X linux uses about 60MB of memory (I remember this somehow)01:16
standooi'm not using X01:17
standooi think i'll just download it and see how much ram it uses01:17
zykotick9standoo: i understand that.  but ubuntu isn't the lightest of distros out there, so what are we talking about?01:17
standoozykotick9: i'm creating a shared hosting platform01:17
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KornKagei register to forum yesterday, and today hacked01:18
KornKagei thought ubuntu was hacker free01:18
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zykotick9standoo: officially server/cli asks for 128 MiB01:18
standooi'm now considering os level virtualiztion with lxc containers having ubuntu on them01:18
pfifostandoo, the kernel supplied by ubuntu is 4.7M, and busybox clocks in at 527k, so you 'should' be able to boot with an 8M stick of memory (but the initrd that got built with this install is 14M)01:21
wilee-nileeKornKage, Nothing is hacker free.01:21
wilee-nileejust free hacking01:22
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standoopfifo: sounds cool01:22
payoniso uh, the forums were hacked01:23
Greylocksdoes anyone know the command to get vi (vim) to display line numbers?01:23
standoopfifo: did most of you move from debian at some point?01:23
payoniwhat hash does ubuntuforums store passwords with?01:23
wilee-nileepayoni, #ubuntuforums is your source01:23
payoniok, thanks01:23
trismGreylocks: :set number01:25
pfifostandoo, yes I used debain before ubuntu was created, and i can point my finger at several others in here that are the same.01:26
Greylockstrism: thank you01:26
h36sahello, I'm running ubuntu 13.04 PXE booted with an NFS root. Every time I use apt-get install   I get a bunch of package reconfiguring nonsense that's always the same /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of 192.168.10.4:/mnt/zraid/tftproot/00-21-70-52-78-fe/ubuntu/13.04-root.  for the following packages.  Is there a way to get apt-get to ignore these packages (I really don't need linux-image but I suspect01:26
h36sait's a dep for most other packages)01:26
h36sa linux-image-3.8.0-19-generic01:26
h36sa linux-image-3.8.0-26-generic01:26
h36sa linux-image-extra-3.8.0-26-generic01:26
h36sa linux-image-generic01:26
h36sa linux-generic01:26
FloodBot1h36sa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:26
h36sa linux-image-extra-3.8.0-19-generic01:26
Nmbr1!paste > h36sa01:27
ubottuh36sa, please see my private message01:27
h36sasorry. did all the lines get pasted though? I'm sure everyone can get the general idea of the problem01:28
pfifoh36sa, why dont you just install linux-image-generic on the NFS root?01:28
h36sapfifo, ? I am but the grub-probe command fails with that error which causes apt-get think i should try it again every time I emerge something01:30
h36saI have vmlinuz and initrd.img for both kernel revs in /boot (which aren't ever actually used). So I'm not sure why I can't trick the system into thinking everything is kosher01:31
pfifoh36sa, try 'sudo apt-get install -f'01:31
h36sapfifo, http://pastebin.com/FGQYpex201:33
h36sacan I remove the hook that runs run-parts: /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub exited with return code 1 somewhere?01:34
h36saI suppose I could replace that file with return 001:34
pfifoh36sa, are you running apt-get from the client or a chroot on the server?01:34
h36sapfifo, client01:34
pfifoh36sa, no, you should edit the clients filesystem from the server, the NFS root should be read only if at all possible01:35
joshu_hi would installing ubuntu mini and then the following sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends ubuntu-desktop, unity-greeter, ubuntu-artwork, network-manager-gnome, lightdm result in a minimal ubuntu OS?01:35
h36sapfifo, not for my purposes but that's beside the point01:36
zykotick9joshu_: honestly, using no-install-recommends with any *-desktop metapackages, is bound to lead to tears...01:36
h36sathere's no reason this shouldn't work (everything actually does work quite well except for the slight delay after installing packages)01:36
joshu_zykotick9 ok I found that "recipe" whilst googling.01:37
zykotick9joshu_: it's probaly not worth the trouble... just sayin'01:37
pfifoh36sa, well nothing wrong with a rw NFS root, but check out casper when you get a chance... anyway, this is failing cause grub is tring to install itself on you network filesystem and it cant find a physical drive for it (of course)... to fix it, chroot into the client from your server and install linux-image-generic01:38
joshu_zykotick9 if the starting point is ubuntu mini and the desired outcome is a minimal OS which basically only presents a login screen, supports the laptop hardware (basics ethernet, wifi, brightness) and VPN, RDP, local USB printer, local USB scanner what would you do?01:39
zykotick9joshu_: perhaps the same ;) but that's me answering.  fyi, you can specify that in /etc/apt/apt.conf BTW (highly NOT recommended!)01:40
wilee-nileejoshu_, Your desired outcome is not what it offers.01:40
soumenHi All, Im having trouble dual bootiung ubuntu 12.04 with win 701:41
joshu_zykotick9 when you say the same you mean the recipe I first posted?01:41
soumenHave a strange problem, couldnt find much after extensive googling01:41
joshu_wilee-nilee how do you mean?01:41
zykotick9joshu_: i don't follow random "recipes" i find on the interwebs ;)01:41
h36sapfifo, I'll try that later, thanks01:41
joshu_zykotick9 I agree that's why I'm asking for advice as I don't have the expertise01:42
soumenUbuntu detects multiple win7 installs (there is only one) and when I hit enter on any of them, the windows splash scren comes up but freezes01:42
h36sapfifo, is there no way to completely disable the grub hooks as I don't use grub?01:42
wilee-nileejoshu_, The mini is just a netload with a lot more options then a single live ISO, I suspect one can from the base install do what they want but all the packages otherwise offered are the same in a cli in a install.01:42
soumenCan someone please help me?01:43
pfifoh36sa, what is the actual package your trying to install?01:43
Nmbr1!patience | soumen01:43
ubottusoumen: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/01:43
zykotick9joshu_: if you honest-to-god need the most minimal system possible (and don't need to upgrade to the next version of ubuntu!) THEN avoid *-desktop metapackages like the plague. and only install what you really need, off of mini!01:43
manujhi01:43
anocidehello01:44
soumenNmbr1: Sorry if that looked hurried, I only meant it as a continuation to my former lines01:44
manuji need some help01:44
leotempanyone feel like msging me and helping me through the install for an atheros wifi card on a laptop01:44
zykotick9joshu_: basically, install mini with nothing selected, but the "base" option, and build upon that...01:44
joshu_zykotick9 I don't need 100% minimal super tuned but the purpose of building a custom ubuntu OS is to make it as easy for a user as possible to just login and get connected to their RDP session via VPN01:44
soumenmanuj: What sort of help?01:44
manujkindly tell me how to open menu(start) by pressing window key01:45
Dr_Willismanuj,  i think you just tap the windows key and it opens the dash screen01:45
soumenmanuj: Are you on ubuntu? Which desktop env?01:45
Dr_Willispress and hold and it shows a list of shortcuts01:45
zykotick9joshu_: then just install regular ubuntu-desktop, and try to customize it to taste01:45
* pfifo high fives Dr_Willis01:45
manujsorry, i am using linux mint 901:45
Dr_Willismanuj,  time to go to the mint support channels then01:46
zykotick9!mint | manuj01:46
ubottumanuj: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org01:46
anocidecan anyone help me with a gnome-keyring / network manager problem?01:46
soumenmanuj: Thats fine, so, GNOME right?01:46
manujok thanks01:46
manujyeah gnome01:46
zykotick9anocide: do you have autologin enabled?01:46
anocideNO01:46
anocidebeen down that path01:46
h36sapfifo, every package tries to reconfigure those I initially listed every time they're installed01:46
anocideits worked for 3 years01:46
zykotick9anocide: then ask the channel, all on one line - and don't include my nick.01:46
soumenmanuj: Not sure. On unity, it works off the box.01:47
manujok i will go to mint help01:47
joshu_wilee-nilee I understand so what approach would you take to achieve what I decribed?01:47
h36safor example I installed xchat to ask this question and it tried to reconfigure the kernel at the end (or at least grub) which takes 30+ seconds01:47
anocidethis the right channel zykotick9?01:47
zykotick9anocide: assuming you're using ubuntu = yes ;)01:47
anocideyes01:48
leotempI have a laptop with an atheros 168c:0036 network device, the forums are down and i dont know how to install the driver properly01:48
anocidethere's a ubuntu gnome channel too01:48
pfifoh36sa, yeah, but this all started by trying to install a package that required grub or linux-headers or linux-firmware or such... Im putting $20 on the cause of this being a video card driver (nvidia or fglrx)01:48
Dr_Willisleotemp,  check askubuntu.com yet?01:48
Vinnie_winHow do I make it so the menu doesn't auto-hide? What a pointless feature. I'm on 12.04LTS01:48
leotempI will right now Dr, thanks01:48
Dr_WillisVinnie_win,  you can disable the global menu if you dont like it in the top panel.01:49
Vinnie_winI dont want to disable it, I want it to appear always.01:49
Dr_WillisVinnie_win,  check askubuntu.com there may be a tweak for that. cant say ive ever noticed one.01:49
wilee-nileejoshu_, Not sure what your goal is exactly, I have not followed all the posts, minimizing if tha is it is probably more likely from the ground up, which I would not really know, maybe gentoo. ;)01:49
anocideQ. After working perfect for years, my 3G nm-applet connection has died. Appears to be prob with gnome-keyring-d. This is main error message ** Message: secret service operation failed: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)01:50
manuj@wilee-nilee01:50
pfifoh36sa, without knowing the the package that caused it, this could be bad advice so take it with a pinch of salt 'sudo apt-get purge grub-pc'01:50
joshu_wilee-nilee ok01:50
anocide NOTE: no autologin => Q. After working perfect for years, my 3G nm-applet connection has died. Appears to be prob with gnome-keyring-d. This is main error message ** Message: secret service operation failed: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)01:50
wilee-nileejoshu_, If I knew I would suggest, but I'm just basically an armchair user with way to much time.01:50
joshu_zykotick9 googling it seems like lightdm has a lot configuration options that might enable the automation of connecting via VPN and then open a RDP session via FreeRDP. Are you familiar with lightdm and is it suitable for this? Basically would I starting with ubuntu mini be able to install ightdm and configure it and more or less have what I explained?01:52
joshu_wilee-nilee no worries ;)01:53
zykotick9joshu_: sorry, i've never used lightdm - or am i familiar with 3g N-M connections - I gots nothin' sorry!01:53
h36sapfifo, I think that worked. thanks a bunch01:53
as0tmy first day on ubuntu 13.04 oh damn looks so damn awesome01:53
joshu_zykotick9 ok no problem! thanks01:54
as0tbut its kinda hard for me cause its my first day on linux world :D01:54
Nmbr1as0t: welcome... to the real world01:54
pfifoh36sa, itll probably just come right back when you try to install another package that needs grub or such, keep the chroot solution written down ;)01:54
pfifojoshu_,  I would debootstrap/mini install, and then 'apt-get xserver-xorg lightdm' and whatever you need for your RDP stuff01:55
joshu_hi pfifo what does "debootstrap" mean?01:56
pfifojoshu_, another way to install a mini system01:56
zykotick9joshu_: debootstrap is a method to install an OS from inside another running/compatible os.01:56
joshu_zykotick9 oh ok01:57
h36sapfifo, if that's the case should I file bug reports saying that grub isn't a real dep?01:57
pfifoh36sa, no your way too far into custom land to make helpful bug reports.01:58
joshu_pfifo so install ubuntu mini via command line option, then once installed do "apt-get xserver-xorg lightdm". Apart from installing say FreeRDP for RDP and a vpn client, would networking, printing work with this or that would require additional packages and config? when I say printing the printer needs to be installed locally via cups, but printing will actually take place via RDP printer redirection.01:59
tamiyaCan someone help me this this piece of crap Linux? I installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and did a 'sudo apt-get update' and this is what I get: http://pastebin.com/sGcVmSuB02:04
dman777hi02:06
vale_dman777: hi02:06
dman777on compiz, is it possible to make a hot key like f1 spawn a urxvt window and later on when i hit f1 again it will bring that same window into focus rather than spawn a new one?02:07
anonymousiae galera02:07
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vale_Not that I know of, but I'm still a noob.. You could always just make seperate key bindings?02:07
tamiyasudo apt-get update anyone?02:08
pfifojoshu_, cups is pretty heavy on deps, your losing you minimal system now. But yeah, a plain xorg with cups is a working solution.02:08
Guest32704alguem ai pra conversa com migo?02:08
tamiyawhy is something so fundamental so broken02:08
kristianpaulhi02:09
kristianpaulThere is a way to get ubuntu on a surfase rt?02:09
pfifotamiya, try using a different mirror02:09
tamiyapfifo how do i do that02:10
tamiyaand why doesnt the stupid software try a different mirror automatically if it cant fetch what it wants02:10
pfifotamiya, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and replace every instance of 'au.archive.ubuntu.com' with 'archive.ubuntu.com'02:10
pfifotamiya, cause its stupid ^^02:11
tamiyajesus whats the point of the software knowing which mirror is closest to me and then not trying another mirror upon failure02:11
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kostkontamiya, in software centre select edit → software sources. you don't need to edit your sources.list file02:12
joshu_and networking and basic hardware support is not an issue with the setup you've described? Btw I'm testing this in a VM now02:12
joshu_pfifo just finished installing 'apt-get xserver-xorg lightdm' I get the login screen with user, guest and remote user, and minimal bar at the top. looks ok. when I try to login I just get back at the login screen02:13
pfifojoshu_, make sure youve added a user to your system and then do this... http://www.itworld.com/operating-systems/289434/how-put-lubuntu-automatic-login-mode02:14
joshu_I guess at this point all config needs to happen on the command line, for vpn, rdp, printer etc? then to get something to happen when the user logs in as opposed to being presented with the login screen *again* I need to configure lightdm options? Have I understood how to proceed?02:15
tamiyaOMG, it works!!!02:15
tamiyaThank you kostkon and pfifo02:15
pfifojoshu_, yeah, you seem to be on the right track02:16
jules_how can i see, which software my grafic card is using? thank you02:16
kostkontamiya, :)02:16
anocide NOTE: no autologin => Q. After working perfect for years, my 3G nm-applet connection has died. Appears to be prob with gnome-keyring-d. This is main error message ** Message: secret service operation failed: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)02:16
anonymous_hello02:18
pfifoanocide, can you paste the output of 'lsb_release -sd'02:18
joshu_pfifo so this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Autorun_a_Command would be where I would have to write scripts to deal with the network config when the user logins in? or alternatively to simplify things I could teach the user to go the the top bar network manager and connect to the vpn, usb modem there and then login and start an xsession via freerdp?02:18
anonymous_anonymous02:18
vale_Does anyone know how to undecorate terminals? I just want to open terminals and see only their content (No username@hostname at the top or even exit, minimize, and enlarge options at the top)02:18
joshu_pfifo sorry if what I'm saying is obvious easier to think out loud and get feedback ;)02:19
pfifojoshu_, your starting to lose me on the VPN/RDP stuff02:19
joshu_pfifo ok. right now as the OS stands you can basically do nothing02:20
Dr_Willisvale_,  ages ago that was a common trick. id say hit up google for 'root window terminals'   it was a common thing like 8+ yrs ago. :)02:20
PepperoniPizzaanyone know where the color info is stored in bash? like what file ?02:20
Dr_WillisPepperoniPizza,  color info for what exactly?02:21
PepperoniPizzaDr_Willis, well basically I have an ubuntu machine and a freebsd machine I installed bash on the free bsd one but it lacks the different colors the ubuntu one has, like if I open a .php file on ubuntu it highlights the syntax and stuff real nice02:21
PepperoniPizzaDr_Willis, but on freebsd it is just white02:21
pfifojoshu_, yeah you have a minimal X with lightdm as a greeter, you can edit a file somewhere to get X to run commands on startup and then return to the login screen when they finish running02:22
Dr_Willisvale_,  http://wiki.archbang.org/index.php?title=Permanent,_Transparent_LXTerminal_on_Desktop   looks like some neat info02:22
Dr_WillisPepperoniPizza,  open with what app?02:23
PepperoniPizzaDr_Willis, hmm ?02:23
Dr_WillisPepperoniPizza,  it will be app settings not bash setting02:23
PepperoniPizzaDr_Willis, in freebsd they told me it was ~/.bashrc02:23
joshu_pfifo http://cl.ly/image/0s3j3D2k1T1k02:23
PepperoniPizzaso im gonna copy my ubuntu version over and try it02:23
Dr_WillisPepperoniPizza,  vi, ls, more, less, all have their own color settings02:23
PepperoniPizzaDr_Willis, ahh02:23
Dr_Willisbash dosent actually do anything to the colors.02:23
PepperoniPizzaDr_Willis, well I use nano on both to edit config files etc02:24
PepperoniPizzabut on freebsd it has no color which makes it harder to do stuff02:24
Dr_Willisits possible there s SHELL/TERM setting defined to tell those apps to use colors02:24
Dr_Willissee what your TERM variable is set to02:24
dman777is it possibile in compiz to assign a key per a window, and hit that key to bring the assigned window into focus?02:24
PepperoniPizzaDr_Willis, xterm on both02:25
pfifojoshu_, All that can be configured in the lightdm config, there has to be some documentation on what and where... google likely knows02:25
PepperoniPizzaand you were right the bashrc file didn't do anything02:25
_andyj_is grub2 set to not display a menu in vmware by default for some reason?02:25
Dr_Willisgrub2 hides its menu by default if linux/ubuntu is the only OS you have on the syste,02:25
Dr_Willisyou can hold the shift key at boot to make it show.02:26
_andyj_even if I install a second kernel?  odd02:26
_andyj_thanks I'll give that a shot02:26
joshu_ok I think you've given me a good starting point pfifo! Will you be around tomorrow?02:26
Dr_Willisit dosent care about the kernels. if you got just ubuntu. it hides it02:26
PepperoniPizzaDr_Willis, it seems ls -G adds colors on freebsd02:26
pfifojoshu_, not likely, my free time is precious these days02:27
pfifojoshu_, I dont know crap about the VPN part anyway02:27
joshu_I think I can figure that out as I've used freerdp before and also tested the vpn on a standard ubuntu install. The help I need is related to what you've helped with so far, but next step is making sure that what needs to happen does on user login.02:28
BugsCrashhello , Im chenge my motherboard today, and Linux Ubuntu Server 11.10 get blackscreen . Anyone :02:29
joshu_pfifo as the system stands does it support hardware the same way a standard ubuntu install does? so although I'm testing in a VM I will need to run this on a laptop and need the ethernet, display brightness, usb ports, trackpad the basics to be supported?02:30
Dr_WillisPepperoniPizza,  yep. its the app that handles the colors - not bash. make an ls alias if you want it to alwyas shows colors02:30
joshu_pfifo btw the laptop I have checked is certified by ubuntu and is on the hardware list. It's more a question of whether this minimal system is missing the hardware support02:30
pfifojoshu_, yes, you should have what you need for hardware support, minus printing02:30
joshu_pfifo thanks awesome!02:31
PepperoniPizzaDr_Willis, will do02:31
joshu_pfifo with regards to configuring the system and as I can't login as a user, how do I "drop" to the console/ command line to make config changes?02:32
pfifojoshu_, use ctrl+alt+f1 and ctrl+alt+f702:32
joshu_pfifo (bow)!!! thanks again for all your help you've got me on the right path I think! :D02:33
pfifocheers02:34
joshu_good night02:35
ni501963hello02:39
PepperoniPizzaDr_Willis, it was a ~/.nanorc coupled with a bunch of files from /usr/share/nano stole em all ;-P02:41
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dman777what's the latest version of compiz out on ubuntu?02:42
hyprvxSo, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 13.04. Whether I partition it myself or let the computer do it, I get a BIOS message: No bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key02:43
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ChedderFryif you disobey god you will be tormented day and night forever and ever02:43
hyprvxdidn't know we had a conservatives' hour02:43
hyprvxHello? Can someone help me?02:44
PepperoniPizzaChedderFry, spare us your religious drivel please02:45
FreeloaderWith what?02:45
ChedderFrysorry but i cant listen to men, but only god02:45
ChedderFryif you disobey god you will be tormented day and night forever and ever02:45
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olskolirci was playing with a program where you take a pic and anywhere that pic is on the net it will show you02:52
olskolircanyone know that program?02:52
somsipolskolirc: tineye?02:53
e_t_olskolirc02:53
olskolirclemme try thanks somsip02:54
e_t_sorry02:54
Psil0CybinWhats up02:54
Psil0Cybinmy ladies02:54
Psil0Cybin:)02:54
Psil0CybinAnyone know what we are doing tonight?02:54
wilee-nileeignoring you02:55
Psil0Cybinwrong02:55
Psil0Cybintrying to take over the world, Will|02:55
Psil0Cybinwilee-nilee,02:55
Psil0Cybinsorry Will|02:56
hyprvxman I missed the ban hammer striking02:58
hyprvxanyways, I'm trying to boot to a new Ubuntu install and my BIOS is telling me No bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key02:59
dsadeldid the forum get hacked03:00
kow_dsadel, yes03:00
Psil0Cybindsadel, yup03:00
Psil0Cybindatabase leakage :p03:01
dsadelFUCK03:01
Psil0Cybinshits dropping like its hot03:01
Psil0Cybinthank god i used a shittay password i could care less about03:01
leotempokay, sorry guys, i tried ask ubuntu but im just too noob to figure this out, i need to install network drivers for my atheros network wifi device03:01
hyprvxdsadel, Psil0Cybin: please watch your languages, this is a PG-rated channel03:01
Psil0Cybinsorry Hyperbyte03:02
Psil0Cybinhyprvx, keep forgetting03:02
dsadelin context the use of a swaer word is fine in my opinion03:02
hyprvxanyways, can someone help? I can't boot to the Ubuntu install I just made03:02
leotemphyprvx, how did you install it, a cd, usb key?03:03
dsadeldoes it mean linux server has holes03:03
hyprvxleotemp: CD03:03
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leotempcan you still boot up with the cd?03:03
hxrhow to i remove about 8 extra out of date kernels from the boot folder, other then manually03:03
hyprvxyes, and I've reinstalled 2x03:04
Psil0CybinAnyone know if i installed Ubuntu by making the windows 7 partition smaller, can I completely remove the windows partition03:04
Psil0Cybinor is in the Ubuntu partition within the Windows Partition03:04
MrBarryHello, all. Does anyone have any experience with IOGear print servers under 12.04?03:04
leotempdo you know if you have an uefi hard drive?03:04
dsadelyou can remove the windows partition03:05
Psil0CybinI installed Ubuntu after I installed windows and I want to get rid of windows and just keep ubuntu thus making ubuntu 250 gbs instead of 4803:05
ubottuError: Ubuntu bug 250 could not be found03:05
hyprvxno idea leotemp03:05
Psil0Cybindsadel, can I03:05
MrBarryPsilOCybin, by default Ubuntu doesn't do anything in the Windows partition.03:05
dsadelyes03:05
Psil0CybinHow would i ago about removing the windows 7 partition03:05
hyprvxif it helps at all, then it's a CR-48 with the InsydeH2O BIOS03:05
dsadelunless you wish to duel boot03:05
Psil0Cybinand enlarging ubuntu without causing corruption03:05
Psil0Cybinno03:05
Psil0Cybini want windows 7 gone03:05
Psil0Cybinfrom my machine03:05
Psil0Cybini never use it03:05
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:05
Psil0Cybincould I use gparted03:06
Psil0Cybinto remove windows 7 partition and then enlarge ubuntu03:06
Psil0Cybini guess id have to use a bootable disk? again03:06
MrBarryPsilOCybin, I downloaded the System Rescue disc, which has gparted on it. You can use that. Download the iso of the CD, burn it to a CD, boot from that CD, and you'll be able to adjust your partitions.03:06
hyprvxPsil0Cybin, suggestion: Back up everything from Ubuntu, do a clean install erasing the hard drive03:06
leotemphyprvx, okay, well try this, it worked for me, boot to your cd, click the start button and run boot repair, try the standard option, if it doesnt work, try the advanced and use the uefi options03:06
dsadelyou were probably better off formating your entire HD if you only wish to run ubuntu03:07
hxrPsil0Cybin⚡ do you have grub installed as your main bootloader03:07
Psil0Cybinyup03:07
Psil0Cybinhxr03:07
dsadelyes, as hyprvx said03:07
Psil0Cybinim just too lazy to do a fresh install03:07
Psil0Cybinyea so maybe ill just wait and do a clean install soon03:07
Psil0Cybinin a bit03:07
leotempanyone feel up to talking me through installing the driver for my wifi card?03:08
bas996Anyone have any luck with D'Link DWA-121 usb wifi adapter?03:08
hyprvxleotemp: booting into the CD now. Here's how I partitioned it: sda1 is ext4, main install partition. sda2 is EFI boot, for GRUB or whatever. sda3 is swap space03:08
hxrthen you can remove the windows partition completly03:09
hxrPsil0Cybin⚡ ^03:09
leotempjust run boot repair03:09
hyprvxalrighty then03:09
hxruse live cd to expand the linux partition to max drive03:09
leotempsorry03:09
hxrvia gparted03:09
hxruse live cd to expand the linux partition to max drive via gparted Psil0Cybin03:10
Psil0Cybinguys03:10
Psil0Cybinokay thanks03:10
Psil0Cybin:)03:10
Psil0Cybinanother question03:10
hxrother wise you would have 2 partitions03:10
hxrits funny helping here when I myself only use ubuntu server and archlinux03:11
hxrlol03:11
Psil0Cybinhey guys another question i used rkhunter to check my computer and i got this as a warning03:11
Psil0Cybin[23:04:32]   Checking for passwd file changes                [ Warning ]03:11
Psil0Cybin[23:04:32] Warning: User 'guest-F8Dv96' has been added to the passwd file.03:11
Psil0Cybinhow do i find out what that account is ? and how can i disable it?03:12
Psil0Cybinis it the guest? on my laptop03:12
hxrOdd.03:12
Psil0Cybinwhen i go to user accounts i dont see it03:12
hyprvxleotemp: is boot repair already installed? if not, where do I find it?03:13
MrBarryI've installed a new IOGear GPSU21 print server on my network to replace an old WinXP box that I was using as a print and file server. Now when I try to print through it from my 12.04 laptop, I get a "Processing - Error writing spool: NT_STATUS_IO_TIMEOUT" printer state. The laptop is dual-boot to Win7, and the Win7 half of it prints through this IOGear server just fine. Any ideas?03:13
hxrPsil0Cybin⚡ check your pwd file see if its listed in there03:13
k0d3g3arhello world03:14
Psil0Cybinwhere is the pwd file?03:14
Psil0Cybini found it in groups03:14
hxr/etc i believe03:15
Psil0Cybinguest-F8Dv96:x:118:129:Guest,,,:/tmp/guest-F8Dv96:/bin/bash03:16
Psil0Cybinhxr,03:17
Psil0Cybincan i remove it from groups?03:17
Psil0Cybindo you think03:17
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hyprvxI think Boot Repair has fixed my problem...03:27
hyprvxYes it has! I should make a USB stick with useful repair tools, with Boot Repair included (since it seems to fix every problem I've had)03:27
Psil0cybinhxr,03:29
Psil0cybinsorry should i remove the group03:29
Psil0cybinhow do i remove that account?03:29
hxr/etc i believe03:29
Psil0cybini was in /etc03:30
hxryes, you can remove it that way to03:30
Psil0cybinokay cool thanks03:30
hxradduser or deluser, I am not sure, what one it is03:30
Psil0cybinokay second guys brb03:32
yashwantany body know how to format read only or crashed pendrive(usb) which is which is detecting in lsusb but it is not detecting by using fdisk -l03:37
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forbinregarding 13.04.. how can i remove the overview screen while switching workspaces? I don't like the slow animation03:39
forbinthe thing that pops up in the middle of the screen, showing all your workspaces03:40
forbinmust stab it gone.03:40
j4rh3rDyashwant: try mkfs.vfat03:47
yashwantj4rh3rD: any option with  mkfs.vfat.03:49
j4rh3rDyashwant: mkfs.vfat  /dev/[your pendrive block address]03:50
j4rh3rDyashwant: you want to use sudo for that btw.03:51
yashwant<j4rh3rD> : yes I can use, Its my system.03:51
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Psil0Cybinim back03:52
Psil0Cybinhxr, you helped me03:52
Psil0Cybinremoving the group and account solved everything within rkhunter03:52
Psil0Cybinyou the man!03:52
yashwant <j4rh3rD>: mkfs.vfat /dev/sdc giving No such file or Directory.03:57
j4rh3rDyashwant: what's the output of fdisk -l ?03:57
OriCan't get multiple sites working with vagrant don't know what I'm doing wrong http://pastebin.com/tgTg0Fxh . Thanks03:58
yashwant<j4rh3rD> :No, but lsusb is giving Brand name and Bus name of pendrive03:58
geniiAlthough you could format the entire hd like mkfs.whatever /dev/sdX    without partition number, probably not a great idea since automounter won't know what fs to use to read it03:58
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yashwant<j4rh3rD>: Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0951:1643 Kingston Technology04:00
j4rh3rDyashwant: try with the -I flag (That's a capital 'i')04:00
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yashwant<j4rh3rD>:This is also giving no such file and directory04:01
HomelessSantaCould someone direct me to where the HOST file is located on Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS?!?04:05
Oritry, /etc/hosts04:06
HomelessSantaOri, Is the file hidden by default?04:08
HomelessSantaDoesn't seem to exist in there.04:08
HomelessSantaOnly one folder with an H in /etc.04:09
geniiPerhaps look for loiwercase H04:09
HomelessSantagenii, I forgot to add it is a lowercase h.04:09
HomelessSantaJust that folder exist.04:09
BillyZanehi04:10
BillyZanedoes anyone know how to install and run virtualbox from /home directory ?04:10
HomelessSantahttp://imgur.com/5sdZGzj04:11
OriHomelessSanta: it shouldn't be hidden04:11
Origot to your terminal and type ls /etc04:12
geniiHomelessSanta: The files would be: /etc/hosts /etc/hosts.allow /etc/hosts.deny /etc/hostname /etc/host.conf04:12
geniiand /etc/hdparm.conf if you have that set, etc etc04:12
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HomelessSantagenii, Don't know if it made any difference but when I installed Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS an hour ago it used the Quantal Kernel.04:13
HomelessSantaBut I'll check those directories.04:13
Nmbr1BillyZane: what do you mean install/run from /home? just install vbox and then build/import your vm to whatever location you want (e.g. /home)04:13
HomelessSantaCause /etc/hosts doesn't seem to exist.04:13
geniiIf it doesn't exist then you're in a completely different world of trouble04:14
HomelessSantagenii, HA it's good now it only popped up when I used Nano. So in turn hosts wasn't a directory but a file.04:15
HomelessSantaCool, cool thankies.04:15
geniiHm.04:15
HomelessSantaYeah, listed as a file in /etc04:16
HomelessSanta:)04:16
HomelessSantaThanks again though. :)04:16
antimatroidh'okay, so I finally installed the new ubuntu that doesn't given me a bar along the bottom with all my open windows. Question: How do I easily access open windows with my mouse? It's currently taking me three clicks to access windows that are hidden which used to take one click!04:17
antimatroidat the moment i need to double click the application on the left then find the window I'm looking for and click that, rather inefficient :(04:18
varunendraantimatroid, install "compiz-config-settings-manager" and setup hot corners for "Scale" and "Expo" effects. Easiest way to access multiple windows/desktops.04:19
SeegeeDoes anoyone know Joobz? Or someone with a name like that?04:20
antimatroidwhy is the workspace switcher so crap now too04:21
antimatroidit used to let me just click the workspace i wanted (not that I ever actually used that, but I preferred the old one)04:21
varunendraantimatroid, it's just the way Unity works. The expo effect may help.04:23
antimatroidi would have expected clicking on the app to give me a list of open windows04:25
antimatroidis there a way to get that?04:25
Wulframnantimatroid, to be honest, most of us are focused more on just getting "back" to a point where our desktop just doesn't get in the way of our productivity. A lot of us have given up the desire, for now, for actual function. =P04:27
varunendraantimatroid, how is it different than what Unity does?04:27
antimatroidsay I click pidgin when I'm on chrome, it just brings up the most recent active pidgin screen, I then need to click it again to get my entire desktop used to give me a list04:29
antimatroidi'd prefer to just click it once with a nice small list next to the app04:29
antimatroidi don't really like all these "fancy" effects things :P04:29
antimatroidbut yes, the way you put it is perfect, I just want to get to a point where I'm not frustrated trying to do simple things, it kills my productivity04:30
varunendraantimatroid, I don't know how to set Unity like that. you may try a different de though. And the expo and scale effects have actually improved the accessibility for me. I use them for their usability, not because they are fancy :)04:31
antimatroidi'll have a play and see how I go, cheers :)04:32
varunendraantimatroid, with scale effect hot point, you just move your pointer to a corner of your choice and all (or only those on the current workspace) apps get organised on the screen to pick from.04:33
varunendrawith their icons and names if you wish.04:33
evan_how can i ssh to a machine that is idle?  I get a Network timeout error.  The machine is located elsewhere and there was a power outage.  Now it's sleeping and I can't SSH onto it?  i guess I have to go manually reboot it?04:35
Pendrag0nSo my business partner is AWOL, and I need to attempt to do some of his work for him.  This would include taking a OpenVZ VPS (ubuntu) and cloning it to a KVM VPS (ubuntu) box.  I would like the ownership permissions all to stay the same.  I am thinking maybe I could add his user, my user, the lighttpd user, samba, etc, then maybe change there user id's to match the old box before I rsync things over.  Thoughts?04:37
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geniievan_:  If you can't ping it odds are you won't be able to ssh in04:38
standooPendrag0n: AWOL as in never come back?04:38
Pendrag0nstandoo: As in I think he will be gone for the next week or two04:38
Pendrag0nbut I need to get this done in the next day or two04:39
b80905i wanna find the biggest files on my system; ls -lS `find / 2> /dev/null` | head     results in 'argument list too long'04:39
Pendrag0nb8095, try to | more04:40
Pendrag0nthen just look at the first page of results04:40
Pendrag0nif they are in the wrong order, | tac | more04:40
holsteinPendrag0n: clonezilla works well04:40
evan_genii: I can't ping it.  I can see that it has an IP assigned from the router... I'm 30 miles away from it so I guess it's powered on.. Same thing happened last week and I had to go reboot it manually but it was on.04:40
Pendrag0nholstein: I'd like to try to keep an eye on each and everything copied, would like to have my hands in it, what can go wrong with changing the userid's?  and where are some of the places I would need to fix if I do this?04:41
geniievan_: Looks like manual reboot time then04:41
evan_genii: ughh04:41
holsteinPendrag0n: if you clone it, no where04:42
Nmbr1evan_: perhaps you have ping blocked by the router?04:42
Nmbr1evan_: what about trying a traceroute?04:42
evan_Nmbr1: i havejn'04:43
Pendrag0nholstein: I may be forced to go that route, but for now, I'd like to copy things manually.  I know i said clone, but it was the fastest way to articulate my situation, I don't LITERALLY want to clone everything, just 75%.  And I need to pick and choose things very carefully.04:43
antimatroidi can't seem to get my changes to compiz to take effect :s even the click to show desktop didn't work after restarting04:43
Nmbr1evan_: if it isn't blocked and it isn't responding then what genii said... time to reboot04:43
holsteinPendrag0n: grsync is a nice GUI front end to rsync04:44
Pendrag0nholstein: that is why i am asking about adding the users first, and changing user id's, so that the permissions work correctly04:44
Pendrag0nwe have no gui, I am and this is an all putty deal. (bash)04:44
holsteinPendrag0n: i would clone, and edit data as needed04:44
holsteinPendrag0n: sure.. the just copy what you want.. im not clear on what you are asking04:44
Pendrag0nI know, ubuntu, but the first thing we did was remove the gui04:45
holsteinPendrag0n: you'll grab whatever user data you want.. and fix permissions as needed04:45
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evan_If I set it to never sleep and turn off screensaver then will this not happen again?04:45
holsteinPendrag0n: as i said, grsync is a GUI front end to rsync, which is what you might want to use to copy the data.. rsync04:45
Pendrag0nI am just asking, if I add users manually, and go edit /etc/group to alter their group/user id's, what else do I have to change, and what can go wrong?04:46
Pendrag0nOh I probably will use rsync04:46
antimatroidoh god, can i make alt tab go between open windows rather than apps too?04:46
Pendrag0nI just want to make sure the right users own the files once rsynced04:46
holsteinPendrag0n: you will check that manually04:47
holstein!chown | Pendrag0n04:47
ubottuPendrag0n: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions04:47
Pendrag0nof course04:47
Pendrag0nI know that.04:47
Pendrag0nI am wondering like, let's say my user id on the old box is 17, but on the new box it's 1904:47
holsteinPendrag0n: then, that is the answer.. you will make sure the user permissions are correct manually04:47
Pendrag0nif I edit the file, and change my answer to 17, can that break too much?04:47
Pendrag0nI meant my id, not my answer, sorry, brain fart04:48
holsteinPendrag0n: it might break permissions that you are expecting, when can be "fixed" with the link above04:48
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Pendrag0ntrue, I know chown inside and out, I just didn't know if it was considered, like an extream "no-no" to alter a user ID manually.04:49
Nmbr1Pendrag0n: that wouldn't break things so much as you could end up with mismatched permissions. If you are going to manually reassign  ids I would make sure your lowest new id is higher than the highest old id.04:49
Pendrag0nMakes sense Nmbr104:50
antimatroidfound an alt tab solution :)04:50
evan_Nmbr1: trace route says destination host unreachable... maybe it isn't powered on after all.. i hope it didn't die.. lol should've gone into the office today04:55
Nmbr1evan_: it doesn't sound like it is on... if this is a recurring problem it might be time for a new router04:56
jiltdilIs there any channel available for websphere?04:58
Nmbr1jiltdil: ##webshpere04:59
jiltdilNmbr1, Oh! no one is there04:59
evan_Nmbr1: it's a managed cisco router at my office and I have a dedicated mining rig going 24x7, something is happening on Friday early morning to make this happen.  Maybe the router is rebooting or kicking me off for being on for a week?  Not sure.. I'm not the IT guy there I Just use the equipment hehe05:00
Name141What's the change to Mir going to mean for the user ?05:00
Equinox3awesomeness05:01
Nmbr1evan_: could be a dhcp lease problem. maybe your lease is expiring and the ip is being reassigned to a different device05:01
Equinox3afaik xorg breaks stuff all the time05:01
Nmbr1evan_: might be worth asking in ##networking05:01
evan_Nmbr1: that was my thought, I checked that and it's been keeping the same IP.  I went ahead and reserved it so that shouldn't change.. I think there's something cycling the power every week or kicking off all connections, who knows.05:02
evan_Nmbr1: just means I need to go in to the office on Saturday morning until I figure it out :)05:02
evan_little gremlins coming out of the drop ceilings and pulling cables out and stuff05:03
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bentinatawhy I can't copy youtube video?05:07
jiltdilbentinata, Be specific, provide full info05:08
bentinatawell, before this, I use pgrep05:14
bentinataand go to /proc/xxxx/fd and easily copying the video05:15
jiltdilIBM AIX channel please05:20
holsteinjiltdil: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist05:22
jiltdilholstein, Thanks05:22
icerootwhat permissions does ~/.ssh/known_hosts have by default? 644?05:24
bentinataIdk, maybe yes, if there's no executable there05:25
paul_Hey guys; which channel would i talk to about my problem running a game in wine?05:26
paul_don't want to be off-topic if this isn't a good place for it05:26
holsteinpaul_: try the wine channel05:26
icerootpaul_: #winehq05:26
iceroot!appdb | paul_05:27
ubottupaul_: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help05:27
paul_thanks guys, appreciate it05:27
joubinHas anyone here attempted to shrink the size of a ubuntu 12.04 server vm?05:29
iceroot!anyone | joubin05:29
ubottujoubin: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.05:29
joubinHow do you shrink Ubuntu 12.04 server image so it is less than 1 GB05:30
holsteinjoubin: you can shrink or grow partitions05:30
Alegreyahttp://ubuntuforums.org/announce.html05:30
Alegreya*ALERT*05:30
holsteinjoubin: the install image is less than a gigabyte05:30
iceroot!gparted | joubin05:30
ubottujoubin: gparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php05:30
icerootjoubin: if you are talking about the installed system05:30
joubiniceroot: no. I dont mean the size of the drives.05:31
icerootjoubin: the iso is already smaller then 1 gb05:31
joubinIm talking about the amount of space it takes to have the base system05:31
joubinInstalled it is not.05:31
joubinhttp://puu.sh/3HUkd.png05:31
icerootjoubin: so your real question is "is it possible to have a running ubuntu system which needs less then 1gb space"05:31
joubinfresh install05:31
joubinyes05:31
icerootjoubin: i am not sure if that is possible, maybe you should have a look at the minimal.iso and only select things you really need05:32
iceroot!minimal | joubin05:32
ubottujoubin: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD05:32
joubiniceroot: Didnt know that existed.05:32
aeon-ltdjoubin: i'm pretty sure you can't get smaller than server + no install options for ubuntu anyway05:32
joubinPerfect05:32
joubincheers05:32
joubinIll try it05:33
joubinBecause debian server fresh install is about 800 mb05:33
Psil0cybinHey guys can someone help me figure out whoy sometimes randomly i boot into console instead of the GUI05:33
Psil0cybinwhen i turn on my computer05:33
icerootjoubin: my debian is even smaller then 500mb by default (expert install and remove what you not need)05:34
Psil0cybinit only happends randomly and usually works and goes into the GUI but sometimes it boots into a text terminal....and all i can do is restart to get it to work05:34
Psil0cybinI went to additional drivers, and had two drivers selected so i only selected the onld one thinking the new driver is causing errors, and still nothing05:34
joubinPsil0cybin: What version are you running?05:34
Psil0cybin12.0405:34
joubinIs this a vm or a real machine?05:35
Psil0cybinreal machine05:35
Psil0cybinit only randomly started happening since i updated05:35
Psil0cybinbut i thought it was because my driver got updated so i unselected the new update and still it happends randomly05:36
Psil0cybinlike here and there05:36
joubinhmm. Makes me think its driver05:36
Psil0cybinill turn on my laptop and get the console05:36
joubinpurge the driver05:36
joubinand reinstall it05:36
Psil0cybinbut im using the old driver05:36
Psil0cybinthat used to work05:36
Psil0cybinif it was the driver woudnt it happen every time05:36
joubinIs it possible that something got mis configured after the update?05:36
Psil0cybinhow come sometimes it works?05:36
Psil0cybinI am not sure that is a good question joubin05:36
holsteinPsil0cybin: if you think the driver is the issue, you could try using the vesa driver, and see if you still have the issue05:36
joubinPsil0cybin: Fail question.05:37
joubinfair*05:37
joubinPsil0cybin: I would recommend to look at dmesg next time it doesnt boot into the system05:38
joubinI mean the gui05:38
Psil0cybinall it does05:38
Psil0cybinis show me my login05:38
Psil0cybinso id login and do what?05:38
Psil0cybinwhere can i find the dmesg05:38
joubinrun the command "dmesg "05:38
Psil0cybinoh05:38
joubin!dmesg | Psil0cybin05:38
ubottuPsil0cybin: dmesg is a console command which outputs the kernel ring buffer - an important log for diagnosing problems in  Linux. Often when something errors with hardware it will result in additional lines reported which can be seen by running dmesg in a console.05:38
Psil0cybinperfect05:38
holstein!enter > Psil0cybin05:38
ubottuPsil0cybin, please see my private message05:38
joubinlol holstein05:38
joubinPsil0cybin: so in the log, you will see a bunch of stuff05:39
joubinPsil0cybin: look for anything to do with unity, gnome, x1105:39
Psil0cybinOkay05:39
joubinyou might want to run, 'dmesg | less' and go through it05:39
Psil0cybinIf i got into the GUI and did it now, would it still work or only when it fails a boot?05:39
joubinYou might have warnings in there even if it boots normally which might help you.05:40
joubinBut you will for sure see something that will help if it fails05:40
Psil0cybinokay thank you so much05:41
joubinNo worries.05:41
Psil0cybinill wait until it fails again lol its so random, blows my mind...if it actually is the driver id be so confused why it works on and off05:41
joubinLet me know how it goes05:41
Psil0cybinforsure :) thanks again that helped me alot05:41
dfsldhow05:41
holsteinPsil0cybin: it would work on an off becuase of random crashes05:42
joubinPsil0cybin: holstein is right. Drivers can randomly crash due to poor configuration. I've had a random audio driver that im too lazy to fix :D05:43
* joubin netflix, thank you for subtitles. 05:43
vaderAny cli masters here want to chime in on the vlc command to play a video on the framebuffer? The best I get is sound & caca vid :/05:44
Psil0cybinOkay thanks holstein and joubin that makes alot of sense now i get it.05:44
konnerSo after long periods of time, everything kinda just freezes, it seems responsive. I'm able to pause and play songs but nothing lets me do anything. I can't change windows, I can't click anything, i'm forced to reboot to get it working again05:45
konnerI'm on Ubuntu 13.04 64 bit05:45
holsteinkonner: i would try booting an older kernel, if you just did an upgrade.. if not, look for and apply all upgrades05:45
konnerI actually just did a clean install and did apt-get upgrade05:46
holsteinkonner: so, you should have an older kernel in the list, then05:46
konnerI'll reboot and check05:46
konnerbrb05:46
joubinholstein: How did you undrestand konner. "I'm able to pause and play songs but nothing lets me do anything."05:47
joubinlol. Its getting late for me cuz I didnt even know what that was asking05:47
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konnerhopefully this fixes it.05:48
konnerI've tried and tried to make Linux my main OS, since some of the games I play do work on here through wine, but I always run into instabilites.05:49
Guest90211what does "Could not demultiplex stream" mean and how can i fix it? Thank you05:49
joubinGuest90211: also known as crash What were you doing when you got that error05:50
Guest90211trying to play a movie on the factory ubuntu movie player05:50
psilothat's not necessarily a "crash" at all05:50
psiloGuest90211: I get random demuxing errors/warnings in mplayer output all the time during playback.  Is it actually affecting the playback?05:51
joubinno Guest90211 nicks was crash. I was saying Guest90211 also known as crash. Not sure why he changed nicks05:51
konnerDo have a quick question. How is Kubuntu now a days? Back when I used it a few years ago it was crap.05:51
psilojoubin: ahhh05:51
Guest90211first time using xchat, still getting used to it05:52
holsteinkonner: in the future, consider doing the same as you do for windows.. purchase from a reseller, such as system76. with support, and hardware designe for linux support05:52
joubinkonner: I still hate it05:52
konnerI built my PC.05:52
konnerI refuse OEMs05:52
holsteinkonner: kubuntu can be ran from a live CD..05:52
joubinkonner: I dont like KDE but thats a preference thing.05:52
holsteinkonner: you can still visit the OEM's, and see what hardware they use.. an email to system76 would tell you what hardware they use05:52
konnertrue..05:53
konnerI do really like how unity changes color to my wallpaper now, I haven't used 13.04 before.05:53
joubinYeah, but do you all think its a hardware issue. Ubuntu has been REALLY good at hw compatibility in my experiance. Specially with main stream brands05:53
konnerWell I do know I always have issues with my Radeon HD 7870.05:54
konnerPoor OpenGL performance in everything05:54
konnerEven with the proprietary drivers05:54
mon2908radeon or fglrx?05:54
joubinYeah. Ive never owned graphic cards before. So I wouldnt know about gpu compatibility05:54
konnerfglrx.05:54
mon2908I know why I have nvidia05:55
holsteinkonner: if you want a stable system, you should try and get some intel hardware that is really well supported, and just use it, and enjoy a stable linux environment for a bit..05:55
konnerYeah, my next PC is gonna be intel. I regret AMD05:55
joubinsudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*05:56
joubinfound that here05:56
joubinhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/283415/ubuntu-12-04-2-lts-boots-to-command-line-of-some-kind05:56
joubinmay be related05:56
joubinreinstall after of course05:56
konnereveryone thinks I'm weird for building a gaming PC and wanting to run linux. LOL05:57
joubinAll of my friends do that. They just dual boot to windows for games and back to linux for development05:57
konnerI was gonna but eh. I have a 120GB SSD and a 1TB HDD for data, I just dont like switching. I prefer one OS05:58
joubin120. Thats random :D05:58
konnerikr haha. Samsung 840 series05:58
Nmbr1konner: if you don't want to switch, have you considered running ubuntu in vbox on a windows host?05:59
mumpitzelkonner: if you insist on linux for gaming, your game selection will be quite limited05:59
konnerI find virtualbox performance sluggish05:59
konnerI always prefer native hardware05:59
mumpitzelkonner: what cpu and mainboard do you have?05:59
Nmbr1meh just depends on how good your hardware is05:59
konnerAMD FX-8350 and an Asus Crosshair V Formula Z05:59
Nmbr1i've done both can't say i have a preference06:00
joubinyeah. I find vms really fast so long as you have an ssd06:00
mumpitzelthen you can use PCI passthrough. no need for crutches like desktop virtualization. you can use kvm, esxi or others06:00
konnerI have 8GB DDR-2133 but the ram runs at 1600Mhz for some reason06:00
vaderAny cli users here want to chime in on the vlc command to play a video on the framebuffer? The best I get is sound & caca vid :/06:00
joubinkonner: My main machine is a macbook air and I run 2-3 Ubuntu vms for development. Never thought they were slow and my cpu is way slower than yours06:00
konnerDDR3-2133 I mean.06:01
konnerIdk maybe I'm just dumb with virtual machines.06:01
joubinvader: I looked at it. No idea. Sorry06:01
joubinkonner: No, youre right that they are slower. Thats been my experience with non ssd machines. I also run them headless and ssh into them06:02
konnerI installed Ubuntu for development. a friend and I are porting Android 4.3 from the Xperia Z to the Galaxy S III i74706:02
holy_rainHey, anyone knows why this error message comes every time I boot up?06:03
holy_rainhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5896306/06:03
holy_rainWhy does the OS fail to enumerate USB devices?06:04
holy_rainAs far as I know, all my USB ports are wroking fine.06:04
vaderjoubin: Thanks for the effort. Its driving me nuts. Man pages, web, IRC... all to no avail.06:04
joubinholy_rain: doesnt sounds like the ports are the issue. Sounds like whats connected to it06:04
joubinvader: I dont know much about video stuff. But do you mind me asking why you want to do this06:05
joubinthis specific way tahat is06:05
holy_rainjoubin: Eventhough I've connected anything to the USB port, still hows this error06:05
holy_rainjoubin: *connected nothing06:05
vaderjoubin: stream videos/music06:06
joubinholy_rain: what does lsusb give you06:06
joubin!lsusb | vader06:06
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joubinvader: to what though. Why the buffer>06:07
vaderjoubin: mostly for YouTube. Mplayer fails at that and the scripts I've tried for downloading from YouTube are hit and miss. I figured I'd give vlc a go.06:07
holy_rainjoubin, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5896333/06:07
joubinholy_rain: and whats plugged in right now06:07
vaderjoubin: I'm loving the cli. I don't use X.06:08
holy_rainjoubin, A usb mouse.06:08
* joubin dont know why but that made me lol06:08
joubinand you get the error on boot06:09
joubineverytime06:09
joubinwithout fail06:09
holy_rainYea.06:09
joubinhas it always done this or did it start at some point06:09
holy_rainThere are some strange things happening with my computer, one among them is this.06:09
holy_rainIts been like this for quite a while06:10
holy_rainI mean, for 2-3 weeks or so.06:10
holsteinholy_rain: i would look at the hardware. you say "as far as i know, the hardware is fine".. how?06:10
holsteinholy_rain: that could be a failing motherboard06:10
holy_rainBecause every device connected to the USB ports works fine.06:10
holsteinholy_rain: whats the issue then?06:11
holy_rainI just want to know why I'm getting this error.06:11
holy_rainThere must obviously be something wrong.06:11
joubinsudo lspci06:11
holsteinholy_rain: i see messages..06:11
holsteinholy_rain: if it eventually comes up and works, i wouldnt worry about it06:12
joubin!lspci | holy_rain06:12
holy_rainjoubin, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5896344/06:12
drjeatshey thar ubunters! if my liveCD boot process stalls at "* Stopping enable remaining boot-time encrypted block devices     [ OK ]", what should I start looking at to make it not stall?06:13
drjeatsbg info: macbook pro3-1, ubuntu13.04, had to enable nomodeset in the grub commands06:13
joubinholy_rain: I have no idea. Everything looks normal and you say every USB port works06:13
holy_rainjoubin, Yea, that's what puzzles me. I'd say a couple of things also.06:14
holy_rainjoubin, My touchpad stopped working. Now it kind of acts strange.06:14
holy_rainjoubin, If I enable it, it would do an 'autoclick'.06:14
joubinHmm is the mouse you have bluetooth06:15
joubinthe one you said is using one of your usb ports06:15
holy_rainjoubin, means, if I put the mouse pointer on top of a folder and enable the touch pad, an infinite number of folders would open, I think you got what I meant to say.06:15
holy_rainjoubin, No, it is a USB mouse.06:16
holy_rainjoubin, And from last week, the 'tab' key is also behaving in a simiar fashion. It wouldn't work always, but when it works, If I'm typing something, I'll have a bad time taming it. :(06:17
joubinI think your system is trying to activate a bluetooth device that it cant find or has the wrong driver for. I would search around and see if you can get a list of drivers installed and correlate them with your hardware. See whats missing.06:17
joubinI take that back holstein was right. Bad mb.06:17
joubin:D06:17
holy_rain:(06:18
holy_rainjoubin, and one more thing, now the system boots up with a loud scream.06:20
holy_rainjoubin, So your final verdict-bad mother board? :'(06:20
joubinyeah. Also, next time, I would lead with that06:20
joubin:/06:21
joubinsorry mate.06:21
holy_rainjoubin, its fine, nothing is going right for me these days.06:21
Psil0cybinholstein, joubin06:22
joubinPsil0cybin: yo06:22
holy_rainMy pen drive crashed, my phone is about to die, now my laptop06:22
Psil0cybinit happend again and i did dmesg ill put it on pastebin06:22
Psil0cybincan you help me read it06:22
joubinPsil0cybin: sure06:22
holy_rainAnd I got dengue fever, on top of that.06:22
Psil0cybinthank you joubin one second06:22
holy_rainFine, thanks for the efforts.06:22
Psil0cybinhttp://pastebin.com/MpGYpq9S06:23
Psil0cybinjoubin,06:23
joubink. Looking06:23
Psil0cybinthank you06:25
Psil0cybini looked too but im still new to linux so i dont know what exactly to look for.06:25
Psil0cybincould it be this? [   30.648216] init: lightdm main process (1073) terminated with status 106:27
Psil0cybinbut i dont understand why its being terminated.06:27
joubinOkay06:27
joubinYeah. I dont think anyone reads one of these and knows whats happening06:28
joubinso this is what I did.06:28
joubinline 874 looks intresting.06:28
joubinsomething terminating with status 106:28
joubin1 = fail06:28
joubinusually06:28
Onixshey, just a quick Q… should swap must be in the beginning or end06:28
joubingoogled the line06:28
joubingot this06:28
joubinhttp://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:R8hqNnk6z9sJ:ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1343012.html+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us06:28
joubinubuntu forums seems to be down06:29
joubinso Im looking at cached stuff06:29
joubinLooks like something with your kde, gnome, or unity06:29
reisioOnixs: doesn't matter06:29
joubinconsider reinstalling06:29
joubinnot the system06:29
joubinbut the UI06:29
reisiojoubin: you talking to someone?06:29
joubinreisio: yeah. to Psil0cybin06:30
joubinPsil0cybin: look above. :D06:30
reisioone tripped out mushy room06:30
Psil0cybinjoubin, god damnit it worked perfectly fine until i updated06:30
Psil0cybini use Xfce06:30
Psil0cybini dont want to have to reconfigure it all >.<06:30
Psil0cybinis there any other way06:30
joubinPsil0cybin: Well, you might wanna hangout around this room until someone else has an idea. Im not a 100% sure thats why. Just a guess.06:31
joubinI would say you have something misconfigured06:31
joubinnot sure what06:32
Psil0cybinhmmmm god darn >.< updates06:32
joubinPsil0cybin: I know it sounds harsh. But when I was new to Linux, I was reinstalling and reconfiguring once a week.06:32
Psil0cybintook our jerrrbs06:32
Psil0cybinreally eh joubin06:32
joubinOnly way to learn.06:33
Psil0cybinYea i guess I just didnt think that a simple update could do such crazy things06:33
Psil0cybinI thought id have to mess around a file personally to cause this06:33
Psil0cybinwith a file*06:33
joubinWell, it depends what youre doing.06:33
joubinas far as I know Xfce is not something that ships with ubuntu06:33
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joubinso, you would have had to configure it06:34
joubinright?06:34
joubinuninstall unity and install xfce? Psil0cybin06:34
reeedXubuntu = Xfce + Ubuntu06:35
joubinPsil0cybin: which update broke it06:35
joubinwere you on 12.04 and went to 1306:35
Psil0cybin3.2.0-4906:35
Psil0cybinno06:35
Psil0cybinim still on 12.0406:35
FloodBot1Psil0cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.06:35
Psil0cybinit was a kernal update06:35
Psil0cybini went from 3.2.0-48 to 3.2.0-4906:36
Psil0cybindo you still think it could be a driver06:36
Psil0cybinor would it have specified?06:36
wilee-nileejoubin, for what its worth unity is a plugin in compiz on top of gnome 3 you can't just remove it.06:36
joubinPsil0cybin: might be worth looking into: http://www.linuxine.com/story/cannot-get-gui-320-49-generic-pae-worked-fine-320-48-generic-pae06:37
Psil0cybinI posted that joubin06:38
Psil0cybinaha06:38
joubinlol06:38
Psil0cybin:) before the forums got taken down no one could help me :(06:38
joubinthats funny06:38
Psil0cybinyea i was like06:38
Psil0cybinhmmmm this guy has the same exact problem06:38
Psil0cybinwait06:38
Psil0cybinthose are my words and my typos lmao06:38
FloodBot1Psil0cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.06:38
* joubin going to put in <enter> to show a return so I dont get yelled at by FloodBot106:39
joubinso this one time at band camp <enter> I was going to do ... <enter> and I thought to <enter>06:39
joubinbetter FloodBot1?06:40
Psil0cybinahaha i have such problems, i am <enter> trigger <enter> happy06:40
joubinPsil0cybin: I think it makes for an easier read. <enter> but I also understand that IRC cant have bunch of enter happy people. <enter> Otherwise, itll be a mad house06:41
Psil0cybinjoubin, are there any other logs that could be helpful to me? to Diagnose this problem?06:41
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joubinPsil0cybin: I would look in /var/log and look for anything related to your gui06:41
lorddeltaAnyone know if its safe to install vlc 2.0.7 on ubuntu 12.0.4?06:41
lorddeltamine seems to be stuck at 2.0.506:42
wilee-nileeyes06:42
lorddeltawilee-nilee: ok06:42
joubinWow. Thats trust right there06:42
al_nz1So I setup a nat rule for SNAT on my linux machine (192.168.15.200) and made the rule --to-source 192.168.15.201 but from my windows machine I can still ping 192.168.15.200 ? and wireshark on the windows machine still shows a mixture of packets (broadcast and ping) coming from .201 ?06:43
Ari-Yanglorddelta, I recommend mplayer or mpv (new fork of mplayer/mplayer2)06:43
lorddeltajoubin: I trust vlc, I don't know who wilee-nilee is but I choose to trust in people06:43
joubinspecially to someone named wilee-nilee. No offense wilee-nilee06:43
lorddeltaAs misplaced as I know that trust is often is ;)06:43
joubinlol06:43
joubinI dont disagree. I was just having fun06:43
lorddeltaAri-Yang; please don't tell people that, I like vlc for a number of reasons, I was never able to get used to mplayer.06:44
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wilee-nileelorddelta, Dude I have been on this channel for years with 1000's of posts and about 15,000 at the uf06:44
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lorddeltawilee-nilee: just explaining to joubin06:44
Ari-Yanglorddelta, sorry, I say it how it is :B VLC is still bad, though it has gotten better....I think06:44
joubinwilee-nilee: I'm sorry. I was just having fun with you nick. Usually implies lack of trust or flakey06:44
wilee-nileelorddelta, I have them ignored they are well lets say special. ;)06:45
innocentCan someone explain to my my screen is off center, after installing xubuntu on my laptop?06:45
cfhowlettinnocent, probably need to adjust your display resolution06:46
mumpitzelinnocent: is it an old laptop?06:46
Psil0Cybinhmmm im so confused06:47
Psil0Cybinwhy this is happening i cant find any logs that can help me out, i am actually so confused its retarded :P06:47
joubinI would just live with it for a few days until people read your post.06:48
NimblePsil0Cybin, you have an askubuntu entry for it?06:49
Psil0CybinNo would that be my best bet Nimble06:49
Nimbleif no one here knows, it couldn't hurt06:50
joubinNimble: is this your post http://askubuntu.com/questions/137875/tell-a-process-pid-by-its-window/138010#13801006:51
joubinNimble: Helped me out06:51
Nimbleyes06:51
joubinCheers then06:51
Nimblenp06:52
kelly1hello guys , i use pidgin to log in my hotmail account , friend of mine tried to sendto me picture , he said i send the pic many times but here in pidgin doed not show me any picture recive to me ? any idea06:52
Nimblefunny, I needed to know that because I have a faulty wifi card and nm-applet spawned 500 windows asking me for my wifi password06:52
Nimbleand I totally forgot it06:52
lorddeltaAri-Yang: sorry I don't mean to put down mplayer, maybe its great but I perfer vlc06:54
Psil0CybinOkay guys i guess im going to go fiddle around tomorrow06:55
Psil0Cybinno point messing around now before i have to go to bed :P maybe tomorrow will be another day. Thanks everyone joubin, Nimble06:55
Psil0Cybinyou guys are the tits.06:55
Nimblenp06:55
Nimblegood luck with your problem06:55
NimbleI've still got two hanging out unanwsered :)06:55
Nimblebut we're in this together, eh06:56
vaderAny cli users here want to chime in on the vlc command to play a video on the framebuffer? The best I get is sound & caca vid :/06:56
Psil0CybinThank you Nimble. yup :) Id rather take Ubuntu problems anyday then bill gates telling me how to run my computer and what i can and cannot do :)06:56
hemangpatelHi06:56
hemangpatelhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/07/countdown-appears-on-ubuntu-website  where ? it's gone ?06:56
cfhowletthemangpatel, gone.  no further info.06:57
reisio#ubuntu-touch or something06:57
hemangpatelok06:58
delinquentmefor images to be browseable in nautilus ... does nautilus need to be part of some group?06:59
delinquentmeor those images .. part of a group?06:59
cfhowlettdelinquentme, not that I know of ...07:00
delinquentmecfhowlett, so I removed the 777 permission off a bunch of images which came from my phone07:00
delinquentmeand now they're not veiwable through nautilus07:00
mathfreakdelinquentme: 777 stands for read, write, and execute for all users. Removing those permissions means that no one can read those images (including nautilus)07:01
delinquentmeI gave it 064407:01
delinquentmethis works fine for text files07:02
cfhowlettdelinquentme, err.  try an alternate file browser to test your theory.  Or, are those files viewable outside of nautilus ... say with shotwell or something.07:02
delinquentmewhy not images?07:02
delinquentmeyeah I can see them through bash07:02
delinquentmejust not nautilus07:02
cfhowlettdelinquentme, so then it can't be a permission issue would be my *guess* ...07:02
stone_coldI just downloaded Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit.. but the filename is ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso ... Does it support Intel chips07:02
cfhowlettstone_cold, yes it does support 64 bit07:02
hemangpatelmay be : http://theboblego.imgur.com/all/07:02
mathfreakdelinquentme: Have you tried reloading the directory in nautilus?07:02
hemangpatelor http://design.canonical.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_1644.jpg07:02
drjeatsis seeing text appearing saying "* Starting LightDM Display Manager" with more following, eventually getting to "*Stopping enable remaining boot-time encrypted block devices" normal on boot? (liveCD)07:03
delinquentmemathfreak, I have =/07:03
cfhowlett!touch|hemangpatel,07:03
ubottuhemangpatel,: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch07:03
lotuspsychje!64bit | stone_cold07:03
ubottustone_cold: AMD64 and Intel 64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. Consider using 64-bit if your memory ussage exceeds 4GB. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit07:03
stone_coldlotuspsychje: thanks... I was just confused when the filename as AMD...07:04
mathfreakdelinquentme: Only thing I can think of now is clearing the .thumbnails folder in your home directory to force nautilus to create new thumbnails for those images.07:04
cfhowlettmathfreak, good one.  I didn't think of that.07:05
cfhowlettstone_cold, you and most of us.  not to worry.07:05
delinquentmemathfreak, so I just opened it with $gksudo nautilus07:06
delinquentmeand they're all there07:06
cfhowlett!cookie|mathfreak,07:06
ubottumathfreak,: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!07:06
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: you can also eat a cookie yourself :p07:07
delinquentmehaha well that doesnt fix the issue07:08
mathfreakdelinquentme: You mean the thumbnails for the images are there, right?07:08
delinquentmecorrect07:08
syn-ackGood evening.07:08
delinquentmeand I can open / view them as I can normally07:08
cfhowlettsyn-ack, greetings07:08
redintellecthi07:09
delinquentmeI am seeing this (totem-video-thumbnailer:3185): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_date_new_dmy: assertion `g_date_valid_dmy (day, m, y)' failed07:09
delinquentmein the output from the bash which activated gksudo nautilus07:09
redintellectI have serious problems installing another linux alongside my ubuntu07:09
lotuspsychjedelinquentme: i get warnings like that on sux aswell, i wouldnt care too much07:09
cfhowlettdelinquentme, wonder if this could be a naming issue on those imported files .. perhaps a leading non-readable character?07:10
redintellectI mean is the installation on default (take all the hard disk) an encrypted installation or something?07:10
delinquentmecfhowlett, but then it would be an issue across all instances of nautilus then no?07:10
delinquentmeIf I can see the images w the sudo version of nautilus ... then Im thinking its some kind of weird permission issue07:10
* cfhowlett ... is currently in deep ponder mode ...07:11
mathfreakdelinquentme: Hmm... looks like root gets its own .thumbnails directory when you run nautilus with superuser privileges. Perhaps nautilus generated new thumbnails when you visited that directory for the first time as root?07:11
cfhowlettdelinquentme, leave gksudo and test if they show up in your normal nautilus07:12
delinquentmeso ~/.thumbnails regenerates if I delete it?07:12
delinquentmecfhowlett, they currently dont07:12
lotuspsychje!info sux | delinquentme07:12
ubottudelinquentme: sux (source: sux): wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-6 (raring), package size 9 kB, installed size 64 kB07:12
stone_coldcfhowlett: roger that bro07:13
lotuspsychjedelinquentme: try the same sux user nautilus07:13
mathfreakdelinquentme: Yes. .thumbnails will regenerate07:13
delinquentmelotuspsychje, sorry I dont understand07:18
delinquentmedownload this util ?  $ sudo sux xauth:  creating new authority file /root/.Xauthority07:19
delinquentmeshit. I dont think I meant to do that?07:19
lotuspsychjedelinquentme: i just seen those warnings like you got07:19
lotuspsychjedelinquentme: sux username totem (example)07:19
lotuspsychjedelinquentme: would open totem for another user from your current desktop (see if you get same warnings)07:20
xubuntu_-F_reAkCan someone help me please07:21
xubuntu_-F_reAkEverytime I go to log into xubuntu, i type in my password, then it comes up with a session thing, if I click default then I don't get a taskbar, so I have to restart/log out of it to the select new session so I get a task bar,07:21
xubuntu_-F_reAkHELP!!!!!07:22
lotuspsychje!patience | xubuntu_-F_reAk07:22
ubottuxubuntu_-F_reAk: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/07:22
Shed-34046Why won't compiz work in xubuntu running with 512mb of ram in virtual box?07:22
reisioShed-34046: did you give it any graphics access?07:23
Shed-34046reisio how do i do this?07:23
reisioin general acceleration in a virtualized guest is tricky07:23
cfhowlettShed-34046, because it's virtualbox i.e. virtual gpu is my guess07:23
reisioShed-34046: in the settings for the VM07:23
taekShed-34046: In most cases you wont get graphics acceleration in virtualbox07:23
reisioI don't know about most cases07:23
reisiobut you might have to give it what it requires07:23
Shed-34046under display?07:24
taekEven in windows, you get the same issue07:24
reisioand it won't be worth it except to prove you can do it07:24
reisioShed-34046: I forget07:24
Shed-34046My graphics card is amd raedion 3200.07:24
reisioguest additions plays a role, too07:24
taek^07:24
Shed-34046By the looks of it under display it says virtual box only gives it 12mb of video memory07:25
Shed-34046And it won't let me change that07:25
taekShed-34046: did you install the linux guest additions?07:25
Shed-34046yes07:25
reisioyour graphics hardware might not have anything to spare07:26
taekTHen I am affraid your hard ware might not support it. (IE Processor Emulation Mode)07:26
cfhowlettShed-34046, the default video memory is 12.  to change that you'd have to create a new VM and set it07:26
cobra-the-jokerHey guys ... i am using ububntu 12.04 here .... and the flash player doesnt seem to accept mouse clicks ... any help ?07:26
reisiooh07:26
reisioyou can't change a lot of settings while the guest is running, too07:26
MammutpanzerHello great community. I would like to know how to check the integrity of sudo apt-get install, sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade. Can anyone help me?07:26
taek^07:26
reisiogotta stop it first07:26
Shed-34046How much video memory does compiz require?07:26
lotuspsychje!aptitude | Mammutpanzer07:26
ubottuMammutpanzer: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter problems on multiarch installs (11.10 and 12.04) as aptitude cannot  handle the same package with different architectures being installed at the same time. See http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.07:26
cfhowlettMammutpanzer, integrity?  meaning what?  integrity checking is built in to apt ...07:27
reisioShed-34046: more than 007:27
delinquentmehttp://pastie.org/816049307:27
lotuspsychjecobra-the-joker: what you mean by mouse-clicks? can you define your issue specific?07:27
taekShed-34046: Correctly shutdown the Virtual Machine, then attempt to adjust the graphics settings.07:27
delinquentmewhat the helllll07:27
delinquentmealso this is crazy:07:27
Shed-34046taek is 20mb enough for compiz?07:28
cobra-the-jokerlotuspsychje: i opened this game ... and it wont allow me to click either "allow " or" deny " on the box inside the flash object07:28
delinquentmehttp://pastie.org/816049507:28
delinquentmecheck out the bottom one ... thats what I get when I ls -l /old_phone_pics07:28
reisioShed-34046: either it will be or it won't be07:28
delinquentmewhaaaaat07:28
reisio#vbox would have more details07:28
taekShed-34046: Probably not.07:28
lotuspsychjecobra-the-joker: did you try different browsers?07:29
cobra-the-jokeri only have firefox07:29
Shed-34046I googled it said compiz requires 3D Acceleration.. Enabled it in virtual box seeing if compiz work now.07:29
lotuspsychjecobra-the-joker: you could try google-chrome, maybe its the game itself thats bad?07:30
lotuspsychjecobra-the-joker: other flash working flawless like youtubes?07:31
Mammutpanzercfhowlett: Well if I download and install software via sudo apt-get install I know it downloads the software. However as far as I know there is no control over if the data send is corrupted or not. I know someone could change the software I download and then my computer is compromised. I read at debian about apt-secure and the apt-secure man page but that didn't help me. I would like to know if I can check that the software I do07:31
cobra-the-jokerlotuspsychje: the problem is that when i have this "allow,deny" dialog ... you cant click on it07:31
cobra-the-jokerhttps://apps.facebook.com/jetpackjoyride/?fb_source=bookmark_apps&ref=bookmarks&count=0&fb_bmpos=2_007:31
cobra-the-jokersee for yourself07:32
MammutpanzerWhen I do updates I also want to be sure the files are correct07:32
Shed-34046Just got this error in terminal when going to enable compiz07:32
Shed-34046compiz (core) - Error: Failed to load plugin: ccp07:32
cfhowlettMammutpanzer, all software is run through a md5sum hash sum check.  you can manually download and then check each package but apt does that for you...07:32
cfhowlettMammutpanzer, don't know about apt-secure, but it would take a pretty good hack to infect a package and NOT have the hash check detect the change07:33
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lotuspsychjecobra-the-joker: i never user fb sorry, i would go for another browser to try out07:35
Mammutpanzercfhowlett isn't md5 not save? I read wikipedia and they say it is broken. I would like to use SHA-1 at least better SHA-256 and if I could SHA-51207:35
Mammutpanzer*is07:35
Chinese_GirLzoh syrian dudes07:35
Guest17133ciao07:35
Guest17133!list07:35
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ubottuGuest17063: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)07:36
delinquentmedoes there happen to be a " clone all access permissions of a file " type command?07:36
delinquentmeIm guessing chmod and chown cover it?07:36
delinquentmeor are there more?07:36
antimatroidhas anyone managed to get the weather indicator to work in 12.04?07:36
reisiodelinquentme: tar07:36
antimatroidreviews don't look very promising on that front :(07:36
reisioantimatroid: what's it do?07:36
cfhowlettMammutpanzer, over my head.  but exactly how many instances have you heard of infected packages being delivered via the repositories in ubuntu?  Do a  bit of research before you submit to the paranoia?07:36
CoolmariodudeWhat does error "compiz (core) - Error: Failed to load plugin: ccp" mean?07:37
reisiocfhowlett: :p07:37
lotuspsychjeantimatroid: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/05/list-of-22-application-indicators-for.html07:37
reisioCoolmariodude: means it couldn't load something it calls ccp07:37
syn-ackCoolmariodude, just what it says07:37
wilee-nileeantimatroid, There is a nice weather extension in the gnome-shell, not sure why that one does not work or another made for unity.07:37
delinquentmereisio, are you sure? tar is a zipping util .....07:38
CoolmariodudePlease forgive me for not knowing much about linux haven't used any linux since ubuntu 10.1007:38
syn-acktar is an archiving utility07:38
reisiofor tapes!07:38
syn-ackzip is just one of the many things it can do07:38
UnHolyTerrorCoolmariodude, ccp is Compiz Control Program07:38
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syn-ackreisio, I miss those days. :/07:38
CoolmariodudeSo i have to something like a sudo apt-get install ccp and see if that is a package?07:38
reisiodoesn't do ZIP, AFAIK07:38
reisiosyn-ack: they still exist if you're rich enough, apparently07:39
syn-ackreisio, it can, just not directly.07:39
cfhowlettCoolmariodude, apt-cache policy ccp*  might tell you something07:39
reisiosyn-ack: ?07:39
reisiodelinquentme: what're you after exactly?07:39
Mammutpanzercfhowlett there are many reasons I switched from Windows (yes I  have been using Windows for years :( ) to Ubuntu (kUbuntu to be more specific). To name a few open source, free software, security07:40
syn-ackreisio, tar will hand it off to gzip to zip a file.07:40
cfhowlettMammutpanzer, OK ... not that I asked :)07:40
reisiothat's _g_zip, though :p07:40
delinquentmereisio, I've got image in a folder which arent showing up in nautilus07:40
delinquentmeand Ive confirmed they're there with bash ... but I'd like to be able to view them via nautilus07:41
UnHolyTerrorCoolmariodude, no - I confused it with ccm... sorry!07:41
reisiodelinquentme: what does 'file path/to/image' say?07:42
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histodelinquentme: does the directory they are in start with a period?07:42
delinquentmereisio, error cant open07:42
ss_hazeis this true ? http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/07/21/0318243/ubuntuforumsorg-hacked07:42
delinquentmehisto, nope :D07:42
reisiodelinquentme: well that's not a good sign07:42
reisioss_haze: http://ubuntuforums.org/07:43
delinquentmereisio, ERROR: cannot open `old_phone_pics/IMG955293.png' (Permission denied)07:43
delinquentmeeven though the current user owns that file and that dir07:43
ss_hazereisio: damn slashdot07:43
lotuspsychje!ot | ss_haze07:43
ubottuss_haze: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:43
reisiodelinquentme: ls -al old_phone_pics/IMG*png07:43
reisioss_haze: ?07:44
delinquentmereisio, a number of permission denied07:44
histodelinquentme: ls -l old_phone_pics07:45
reisiodelinquentme: okay, must be the dir, then07:45
reisiodelinquentme: probably you'd want to sudo chown -R youruser:youruser old_phone_pics07:46
reisiodelinquentme: assuming you don't need to preserve the original permissions07:46
mathfreakdelinquentme: Hey, I just looked at the pastebin. What you need to do is set the execute bit for old_phone_pics directory07:46
taekmathfreak: I don't think so.07:47
taekWhy would one set execute to a folder.07:47
delinquentmemathfreak, thats 0777 right?07:48
delinquentmeerm no 064407:48
mathfreakdelinquentme: Should be 075507:48
chunkyheadUBUNTU HACKED? whhaaaat?07:48
reisiotaek: mkdir foo && ls -al foo07:48
lotuspsychje!ot | chunkyhead07:48
ubottuchunkyhead: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:48
chunkyheadok lotuspsychje07:48
taek???07:48
reisiochunkyhead: some aspect of the site ubuntuforums.org was hacked07:48
taekreisio: that's the execute bit?07:49
reisioprobably the proprietary forum system07:49
mathfreaktaek: The read bit lets you read filenames in a directory. write lets you create files. execute lets you cd into directories and other things07:49
reisiotaek: what is?07:49
delinquentmemathfreak, reisio it looks like $ sudo chown -R thrive:thrive old_phone_pics didnt do the trick07:49
chunkyheadcome to ubuntu-offtopic07:49
reisiodelinquentme: probably what mathfreak said, then07:49
taekchmod 755 folder_name07:49
mathfreaktaek: e.g. if I don't have the execute bit set, you can ls <directory>, but you can't do things like cd <directory>.07:50
reisiowell, 755 is shorthand07:50
reisiohttp://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/permissions.html07:50
PaintBucketHello07:50
reisiohi PaintBucket07:50
cfhowlettPaintBucket, greetings07:50
PaintBucketI think I've found the cause of my audio/video skipping.. kind of.07:50
taekNever heard of this execute bit as i've never had any issue with cd commands :D07:50
PaintBucketIt seems that it happens when something's going on in the background.07:51
delinquentmemathfreak, +1!!!!!!107:51
wasabiWow. Samba4 on raring is messe dup.07:51
reisiotaek: you probably never copied weird files weirdly off a phone, then :p07:51
PaintBucketSo, I don't think it's directly an issue with audio but maybe with something hanging?07:51
mathfreaktaek: Yeah, I had to play with the permission bits on directories a few times to understand what did what.07:51
taekreisio: a weird way?. in most phones now you just mount the storage device (ie phone)07:52
mathfreakdelinquentme: Glad to see that. :D07:53
reisiotaek: probably why you haven't experienced this07:53
taekI suppose so. :D but good information to know.07:53
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PaintBucketHow do I check the logs for hangs?07:54
reisioPaintBucket: what's the problem?07:54
delinquentmeMATHFREAK I RUV YEWWWWWWWW07:54
lotuspsychje!caps | delinquentme07:54
ubottudelinquentme: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.07:54
PaintBucketI've got audio/video stutter but, I think it's caused by things happening in the background.07:55
* mathfreak loves yew trees as well.07:55
PaintBucketLike, I notice it when I load something often07:55
reisioPaintBucket: audio alone stutters?07:55
PaintBucketYeah, it's mostly audio. Video seems to occasionally too.07:56
delinquentmeoh :D07:56
PaintBucketi'll load something else and look at it.07:56
reisioPaintBucket: audio on its own without video?07:56
PaintBucketreisio: Yeah, even just audio.07:57
reisiommm, weird07:57
taekwrong drivers?07:57
reisioPaintBucket: what about just video?07:57
taekwrong codecs?07:57
reisiomplayer -nosound foo.video07:57
PaintBuckethard to tell. it's not nonstop.07:57
UnHolyTerrorPaintBucket, what sound system?07:58
PaintBucketPulseaudio07:59
PaintBucketthough i know it's not pulse causing it. Iv'e had this issue with my previous install and took pulse out and alsa still stuttered.07:59
UnHolyTerrorRarely from time to time if I get Audio/Video glitches I have to reload ALSA to straighten it out.08:00
UnHolyTerrorPaintBucket, try: gksudo alsa force-reload08:02
zipyhey, how do i sync after dd cmd, simply type sync?08:02
PaintBucketokay08:04
PaintBucketI'll try this.08:04
PaintBucketNope, still doing it.08:06
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UnHolyTerrorPaintBucket, System specs?08:07
PaintBucketIt's persistent through reboots. It went away after a while during my last install. Though, I'm not sure at all what I did. I thought it was an update and fix but, apparently not.08:07
yimmonhello08:15
reisiohi08:15
blue_pearlso Ubuntu forums got hacked and usernames, hashed password and email stolen!08:17
reisioblue_pearl: yup, we're here on the internet, too08:18
reisioof all that only the hashed password wasn't really already public knowledge08:18
reisiopeople who don't use the same password everywhere have nothing to worry about08:18
reisioand people who do have more to worry about than this incident08:19
reisioand always will :p08:19
goddardubuntu forums were hacked by microsoft loyalists08:19
taeklike me@ ^^08:19
goddardubuntu supports it is time to take down the death star!08:19
reisioheh08:19
goddardattack rebels!08:19
goddard:D08:19
reisiowas probably "hacked" by someone who hates vbulletin08:19
Onixshacked08:19
Onixslol08:19
taekNot one service that I use has the same password, unless it's a service I don't care about08:20
blue_pearlreisio, saw the news just few minutes ago...well generally no one uses same password everywhere....but i fear i will get a huge spam as emails were also stolen.08:20
lotuspsychjeguys lets stick to ubuntu support08:20
lotuspsychje!ot08:20
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!08:20
Onixslater that08:20
reisioblue_pearl: you'd get that anyways, if you use email, at all08:20
blue_pearlgoddard, hahahah..like that08:21
punzillaHi can I please have some assistance restoring my sound?08:21
blue_pearlreisio, yep thats true.08:21
reisiopunzilla: where'd it go?08:21
punzillawell yesterday, it was working today it isn't.08:21
taekpunzilla: anything change between the time?08:22
reisios/anything change/what'd you change/08:22
punzillano, nothing that I can think of has changed.08:22
punzillathe device is plugged in.08:22
punzillapowered on.08:22
taekwell something has.. maybe mute is on punzilla ?08:22
punzillanope mute is not on.08:23
taekvolume is turned up in the system?08:23
taekdoes it reconize the audio device ?08:23
punzillayeah, it's turned up both on the system.08:23
punzillayes it does.08:23
taekmedia player volume is up?08:24
punzillayes08:24
taekhave you tried multiple sources of audio08:24
reisioplug your speakers in! :p08:24
lotuspsychjepunzilla: any logs give errors?08:24
punzillaspeakers are in :)08:24
taekdifferent programs, pandora, youtuber, mplayer, VLC08:25
taeketc08:25
taekpunzilla: have you tried a system restart since this first occured?08:26
cfhowlettpunzilla, try different plugin ports and also try headphones08:26
punzillayes I've tried at least 3 system restarts.08:26
taekCan your speakers receive audio from other devices (ie ipod, mp3player, etc)08:27
punzillahang on a moment I'll try, they should though one tic.08:28
punzillaspeakers work08:30
taekOKay punzilla, test headphones or an alternative audio port08:30
punzillatested ok with phone08:30
hjubalHi, any idea why I need to remove and add "wl" module multiple times before I can ping any host?08:32
punzillano luck08:32
taekhjubal: have you checked the logs for anything replating to it.08:32
punzillahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5896606/08:33
punzillathat's my syslog08:33
taekhope it's not too big..08:33
taekpunzilla: is your audio device running via a USB Donggle?08:33
punzillano, it's running via a plugged in card08:34
taekPCI(e) device?08:34
taekor onboard?08:34
punzillaPCI device08:34
scratch_helo08:34
punzillaSB Audigy 2 ZS (SB0350) is what it's reported as in ubuntu08:35
reisio'lo scratch_08:35
taekpunzilla:08:36
punzillayes08:36
taekin your pastebin link starting at line 80 through 82 -08:36
punzillayes08:36
taekpunzilla:  have you recently updated your system?08:36
punzillaI run the daily software updates from Ubuntu08:37
hjubaltaek, yes, apparently every time I can connect to the wifi without error, but the access is somehow "limited"08:37
hjubaltaek, please, see: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5896621/08:38
punzillacould it be that a kernel update may have broken my system?08:38
punzillaand if so, is there a way that I can choose an earlier version?08:38
taekKernel or driver, in this case it looks like the pulse-audio driver is having issues.08:38
cfhowlettpunzilla, possible.  reboot and select "earlier version" of ubuntu at grub menu08:42
taekhjubal: I acutally don't see an issue with your log.08:42
cfhowlettpunzilla, but first run sudo apt-get update  && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade08:42
lotuspsychje!cookie | cfhowlett08:43
ubottucfhowlett: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!08:43
punzillaalright I'll try the sudo apt-get ... option frist08:43
cfhowlettlotuspsychje   :)08:43
punzillathen I'll try and select an earlier version ...08:43
taekhjubal: How long have you had this issue?08:43
NewbtoArchis there a way to restart the terminal with a terminal command08:43
cfhowlettNewbtoArch, sudo restart08:44
NewbtoArchwith having to use the mouse08:44
NewbtoArch^without08:44
cfhowlettNewbtoArch, no NO not that08:44
punzillathanks cfhowlett08:44
cfhowlettpunzilla, best of luck.08:44
punzillaI'll give it a shot.08:44
NewbtoArchcfhowlett: ?08:44
cfhowlettNewbtoArch, ignore my command08:44
cfhowlettNewbtoArch, but why restart the terminal?  just open another tab ...08:45
NewbtoArchclose and open gain08:45
NewbtoArchagain08:45
taekNewbtoArch: Why would you need to "restart" terminal?08:45
lotuspsychjepunzilla: something similar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/89325808:45
ubottuUbuntu bug 896427 in alsa-utils (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #893258 system settings/sound do not configure alsa mixer properly" [Undecided,New]08:45
punzillaoh ok I'l have a quick look :)08:46
lotuspsychjepunzilla: what ubuntu version did you have again?08:46
punzillaI am running 13.1008:47
NewbtoArchim usung urxvt and after a change the config I need to restart it08:47
hjubaltaek, indeed, me neither, it's a new laptop with a broadcom B43xx wifi card :/08:47
standoowhat are some good bandwidth monitors for ubuntu server?08:47
lotuspsychjeright :p08:47
punzillaand I know that it's officially unsupported :)08:47
punzillayeah08:47
lotuspsychje!13.10 | punzilla08:47
ubottupunzilla: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+108:47
punzillaooh08:47
taekhjubal: is it a USB wifi adapter, or internal, also which driver is being used for it in the "additional Drivers"08:48
taekCheers varunendra08:51
hjubaltaek, it is internal (http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5896648/)08:51
varunendrahey taek ! :)08:51
lotuspsychje!b43 | hjubal08:52
ubottuhjubal: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx08:52
varunendrahjubal, wireless issues on 13.04 ?08:53
taekwith b43xx it's uslly a driver issue08:53
taekand ubuntu comes with two in the additional drivers app08:53
hjubaltaek, btw I don't know how to access "additional Drivers" using Xfce ;)08:53
taekMe either :(08:53
varunendrataek, hjubal you already have the proprietary one that the "additional drivers" will offer. Is it 13.04 ?08:54
hjubalyeah, it's 13.0408:54
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taekvarunendra: anytime I used a system with a b43xx adapter, i've always had to go with the fwcutter method08:55
varunendrahjubal, try this then (will bring your wireless down momentarily) - "sudo ifconfig eth1 down" ..... then " sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source". ..... then ... "sudo modprobe -v brcmsmac"08:56
hjubaltaek, varunendra the weird thing it's that after I remove and add wl module 2-5 times it starts working08:57
varunendrataek that card is not supported by b4308:57
crazybrainguys i am facing problem with my ubuntu08:57
varunendrahjubal, your card is supported by both the proprietary wl driver and the native brcmsmac. But wl doesn't work as good as the brcmsmac with it.08:58
crazybrainI have a two ports for headphone one is for speaker and other is for mic,,I inserted my headphone in it but when i go to sound settings it does not shows any option for audio08:58
irssi-mikeI just installed openoffice.org and I can't find "writer." can't seem to google where it is. do i need libreoffice instead?08:58
crazybrainfor microphone08:59
crazybrainIt tells that to be blank08:59
hjubalvarunendra, just to understand, "bcmwl" is the open-source driver, so you suggest me to remove it and go with the proprietary one, am I right?08:59
taekirssi-mike: which ubuntu version?09:00
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crazybrainguys help me09:00
varunendrahjubal, no it's the other way around. bcmwl (wl) is the proprietary one (and doesn't work nicely with your particular card).09:00
cfhowletttaek, what card do you have?09:01
cfhowlettirssi-mike, libre office writer is the default09:01
hjubalvarunendra, got it! ;)09:01
taekcfhowlett: I don't use any BC cards any longer09:01
varunendrahjubal, if you didn't install it via "additional drivers", it must have got installed during installation of Ubuntu when you chose to "install 3rd party softwlar".09:02
reisioirssi-mike: you install it with a command?09:02
sandra_Hello, I got open source UVD working on 13.04 with 3.11 kernel, new mesa and firmware. Anyone know if the daily build of saucy has this by default yet?09:02
hjubalvarunendra, I don't like using gui, sorry09:02
cfhowlett!saucy|sandra_,09:03
ubottusandra_,: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+109:03
Marcus_Hellow, I need help installing a grub on a read-only filesystem (HDD), how I do?09:03
reisioMarcus_: #grub09:03
OriHello, I can't access my localhost. http://pastebin.com/DhK8HHDH09:04
varunendrahjubal, didn't get the gui thing. Was it related to something else ?09:04
hjubalvarunendra, could I run "modprob -r wl" and "modprobe brcmsmac" to achieve the same result?09:04
taekOri: #apache09:04
vaderAny cli users here want to chime in on the vlc command to play a video on the framebuffer? The best I get is sound & caca vid :/09:04
Oritaek: Makes sense. Thanks09:05
taekat anyrate, Ori remove NameVirtualServer 127.0.0.109:05
taekand then service apache2 restart09:05
varunendrahjubal, maybe, but I suspect the wl configuration may interfere. Besides, brcmsmac is well tested on 13.04. But trying won't hurt :)09:05
Oriok will try that09:05
hjubalI mean, I could blacklist wl if it works09:05
hjubalvarunendra, I need to be careful, as this c**py laptop doesn't have any wired card09:06
taekhjubal: No RJ-45 Jack?09:06
hjubalvarunendra, thanks, I'll give it a try on next boot09:06
hjubaltaek, nope09:07
varunendrahjubal, I am fairly confident with brcmsmac, but don't you have another system around with a working wireless?09:07
taekGood Luck :D09:07
hjubaltaek, it was my fault, I did't check as I gave it for sure :/09:07
hjubalvarunendra, no, I remove win8 as I don't use it09:08
varunendrahjubal, you may use "apt-get install --print-uris bcmwl-kernel-source" command to get URIs of the required packages to use them on another computer to download manually. Then you can manually install them with "sudo dpkg -i *" command.09:09
hjubaltaek, varunendra how does Ubuntu decide which module to load if both brcmsmac and bcmwl support my wireless card?09:10
varunendrahjubal, but I think you may also have the packages cached in the "/var/cache/apt/archives" directory.09:10
varunendrahjubal, mostly it is about priority. But the wl driver also 'Blacklists' all other contending drivers. That's another reason why we need to purge it.09:11
NeodiablowHi, I'm looking for the package referenced by this documentation : http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man4/pf.4.html09:12
Neodiablowbut I can't find the package for ubuntu with apt-get09:12
Neodiablowany idea where I can find the sources?09:13
taekpackage is pf.09:13
cfhowlettNeodiablow, as it's end of life ...09:13
taekNeodiablow: anyhow - http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages.gz/hardy/man4/pf.4.gz09:13
taekmight be wrong link bht try it\09:13
Neodiablowtaek: I'm looking for the software not the man page :)09:15
thechrisanyone here good with troubleshooting sshd?09:15
thechrisbasically, I'm trying to connect to a nas box using a private key, but can't.09:16
thechrison my end, the correct key is being used.09:16
thechrisbut I've got no idea what the server is doing, other than it supports publickey, and also has RSA enabled09:17
taekthechris did you do add-ssh key /path/to/key.pub ?09:17
thechristaek, no that command doesn't exist on the nas09:18
ndouciao09:19
taekIs the NAS running Ubuntu?09:19
ndou!list09:19
ubottundou: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».09:19
thechristaek: no, its running nas4free09:19
thechriswhich is running sshd09:20
taekHas nothing to do with Ubuntu then.09:20
thechrisso what does "add key" do then?09:21
taekIt allows you to ssh/sftp into a server that requires a key.pub file09:21
bespThe 2> construction isn't working for me in bash. For example if I do `time wc file 2>time.out`, the time output still goes to my terminal and time.out is empty. How can I redirect stderr to a file?09:21
thechrisapparently this isnt' the channel to ask linux questions09:22
taekThis is for ubuntu Specific.09:22
thechrisok, what are some good non-ubuntu channels for general linux/sshd help?09:23
varunendrabesp, it should work. Are you sure it is stderr and not stdout?09:23
taekyou can try with #sshd09:23
taeknot sure if there's a #nas4free channel but you can try09:24
reisiothechris: #linux09:24
bespvarunendra: yeah I'm sure. time wc file >wc.out still prints the time output. The man page says time outputs to stderr by default, although I suppose the man page could be outdated/wrong.09:25
varunendrabesp, is > same as 2> ??09:27
bespvarunendra: no I did the command with > to show that time does not print to stdout. wc prints to stdout and time prints to stderr (or so it seems) though 2> doesn't redirect the output of time.09:30
varunendrabesp, 2> should print the stderr to the file. If you want both the stdout and stderr redirected, you may use "cmd >>file.txt 2>&1" format (source : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/876239/bash-redirect-and-append-both-stdout-and-stderr)09:31
bespvarunendra: I figured it out, bash fucks with the time command: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/03209:34
scratch2209:34
tracekillGood god I have had such issues with this, I'm hoping one of you can help me. I've just been trying to get my Intel Wireless-ac dual band 7260 to work correctly and it seems to be impossible.09:34
tracekillI've compiled 3.11 with the wifi-testing branch and I've placed the iwlwifi-7260-7.ucode file in /lib/firmware and I've no idea what else there is to do that I've not done.09:34
scratchoh09:34
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PaintBucketSo, something weird happened.09:35
sharif ubuntuforum.org not  open but why?09:35
cfhowlettsharif, hack attack.09:35
PaintBucketI -think- my audio problem might be resolved now but.. I removed pulseaudio and alsa-base via apt-get. So, I went to reinstall this.. and it says I already have alsa-base installed.09:36
scratchhelloo09:36
cfhowlettscratch, greetings09:36
PaintBucketokay.. that's fine.. but I noticed it was removing gnome core and all sorts of stuff.09:36
varunendratracekill, have you followed some guide or tutorial to do so? Link please.09:36
scratchcfhowlett,09:36
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scratchcan you talk09:36
cfhowlettscratch, ?  what's the issue?09:36
PaintBucketbrb09:36
sharifcfhowlett solve time plzz09:37
tracekillhttps://openlinuxforums.org/index.php?topic=3274.009:37
scratchseperately09:37
bespexit09:37
tracekillWith the addition of these configuration changes: http://www.linux.org/threads/intel-7260-firmware-not-loaded.4280/09:37
tracekillAs this gentleman seems to have had my exact problem.09:38
cfhowlett!details|scratch,09:38
ubottuscratch,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."09:38
varunendratracekill, you may download this script and run it to get a detailed report : http://dl.dropbox.com/u/57264241/wireless_script09:38
tracekillJust finished the 2 hour task of compiling the kernel for the second time and it doesn't seem to have taken.09:38
cfhowlettsharif, it'll be back when the hack attack is fixed.09:38
beni-_hi, I'm deleting a whole bunch of files. Why does `df` not show the free space as free? the numbers Used and Free don't sum up to total 1K-blocks. http://pastebin.com/WahNv2Fj09:40
tracekillhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/589675509:41
cfhowlettbeni-_, because they're in the trash not deleted09:41
varunendrasharif, the status of the forums is regularly updated on the notification page.09:41
beni-_cfhowlett: sorry, didn't explain properly -- I delete them from the command line with 'rm -rf', so they shouldn't go to Trash, or do they?09:41
tracekillvarunendra*09:42
varunendratracekill, taking a look at it .. :)09:42
cfhowlettbeni-_, I'm going to pass on this question as I don't know.  Someone here does, I'm sure.09:42
tracekillThank you, sir!09:42
tracekillNever compiled the actual kernel before tonight, never really want to again :p.09:42
irssi-miketaek: 12.04.2, sorry i was AFK09:43
checoimgHA09:43
irssi-mikereisio: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org09:43
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reisioirssi-mike: dpkg -L openoffice.org | grep bin09:43
varunendratracekill, that seems too much over my head, but have you cross-checked if those firmware files in the dmesg part exist in their locations? And that your new iwlwifi actually requests them?09:45
irssi-mikereisio: that did nothing, i think09:45
reisiothinking :p09:46
irssi-mikeikr09:46
tracekillvarunendra, iwlwifi definitely doesn't seem to be requesting them thoug the firmware file is right where the other ones are.09:46
tracekill/lib/firmware09:46
LeMikehello. i do not see the problem in this line. it says "missing arg to execdir". can someone help? ``` find . -name "phpdoc.dist.xml" -execdir phpdoc ; ```09:47
varunendratracekill, I didn't go through the page you gave links of, but just to make sure - is it the iwlwifi  that should still handle the card? If so, the output of 'modinfo iwlwifi' please.09:48
tracekillhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5896763/09:50
varunendratracekill, first of all, it doesn't seem to recognize your card, there is no alias entry for your card's PID : VID . So messing with firmware is pointless until it recognizes that, and includes the firmware in its 'firmware' list.09:54
tracekillYeah that's the part i cannot get it to do.09:54
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tracekillHow do I accomplish that?09:55
varunendratracekill, did you try compat wireless drivers?09:55
tracekillNot to my knowledge.09:55
varunendratracekill, unfortunately, my primary source of info is down (ubuntuforums), but you should find links on how to compile them. I'd try the latest version that builds successfully on the system.09:57
varunendratracekill, according to http://wikidevi.com/wiki/Intel_Dual_Band_Wireless-AC_7260_(7260HMW) the driver in kernel 3.11 seems to have support for this card. You may try the same compat wireless version and see if it builds successfully.10:00
ANubHey!!! When ubuntuforums are expected to come up??10:00
bekksWhen they are finished :P10:01
varunendraANub, we know only as much as displayed on the notification page.10:01
mJaykANub: keep checking the splash screen10:01
tracekillvarunendra okay aweomse, Ill check it out!10:01
varunendragood luck !10:01
ANubEager to paste solution of my own query....:)10:01
tracekillvarunendra, what do you mean by the compat wireless drivers? Is this a package available?10:01
varunendratracekill, there should be. Think of them as backported drivers. Only they need to be compiled manually.10:02
varunendraANub, what was that by the way ? :)10:06
ANub<varunendra> if you have ever observed intermittent lagging in WiFi even if you are sitting right besides the AP......its the solution for that10:07
varunendraANub, too close a distance can also be a problem, there is a 'sweet spot' between the hotspot and the receiving device. Plus it is sometimes driver related. But glad you figured it out whatever it was :)10:09
ProchamberHey, I've been having a problem with multiple monitors in Xorg. I can use one graphics card or the other but not both.10:10
aj_what are desktop replacements for gnome??10:12
aj_and what is best?10:12
reisioaj_: Xfce, Xfce10:12
aj_what is its advantage over gnome?10:14
Prochamberaj: KDE is nice but hard to learn for a Gnome user, Xfce is nice10:14
ProchamberLightweight10:14
ProchamberFast to load and very responsive10:14
aj_the default with ubuntu is unity, right?10:14
ProchamberYes10:15
xormoraj_: I use xubuntu that I got from a Linux Format DVD.10:15
ProchamberCanonical decide to replace Gnome with their own creation10:15
xormoraj_: xubuntu comes with xfce, a light desktop environment.10:15
icerootProchamber: unity is still gnome3 just with another shell10:15
tracekillvarunendra, there doesn't appear to be a package for 3.11.10:16
tracekillNot as far as I can find.10:16
ProchamberIceroot: Ah, now it makes sense10:16
varunendratracekill, yeah, I couldn't locate it as well :(10:16
tracekillIf this says that the driver for 7260 is included in 3.11 shouldn't I have it?10:17
tracekillSince I compiled the 3.11 kernel?10:17
ProchamberAnyway, I've been having a problem running multiple graphics cards with Xorg10:17
varunendratracekill, your kernel version looks weird. Where did you get the source from?10:19
tracekillhttp://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/linville/wireless-testing.git10:20
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varunendratracekill, apparently, 3.11 is available in the ppa mainline, but I won't recommend such a long jump : http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/10:21
xormorLinux laptoppi-HP-G62-Notebook-PC 3.8.0-26-generic #38-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 17 21:46:08 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux10:23
Tuna-Fishhi, how do you change the password policy in 13.04? The documentation says to change /etc/pam.d/common-password, I have done the modifications but they don't seem to have any effect?10:25
darkelfjuggaloI have a Mic built into my laptop, I wam trying to use it and it is not installed... can someone suggest the package to use?10:25
tracekillvarunendra, I'm already on 3.11 no?10:26
tracekillWith the addition of the wireless-testing branch.10:26
PaintBucketIf I remove Pulseaudio is there something else I can use to manage volume keys and such instead of having to open terminal and edit alsamixer?10:26
bekksPaintBucket: No.10:26
Ben64PaintBucket: yes10:27
Tuna-Fishalsamixergui?10:27
Ben64!info gnome-alsamixer10:27
ubottugnome-alsamixer (source: gnome-alsamixer): ALSA sound mixer for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7~cvs.20060916.ds.1-3ubuntu1 (raring), package size 40 kB, installed size 482 kB10:27
bekksBen64: Which programm would magically make his multimedia volume keys work?10:28
bekksBen64: Its not the mixer. :P10:28
Ben64uh, you just make it a keyboard shortcut10:28
linuxthefishwhy hacked10:28
varunendratracekill, yes you are, but the iwlwifi is nothing what wikidevi.com suggests it is.. :(10:28
farbodhi10:28
linuxthefishUnfortunately the attackers have gotten every user's local username, password, and email address from the Ubuntu Forums database.10:28
farbodcan you help me?10:28
tracekillvarunendra, I've been lied to.10:28
farbodcan you help me?10:29
farbodcan you help me?10:29
linuxthefishyes10:29
Ben64farbod: not if you never ask a question10:29
bekks!ask | farbod10:29
PaintBucketah, okay. I'll look into gnome-alsamixer10:29
ubottufarbod: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:29
PaintBucketI think pulse might be screwing up afterall.10:29
tracekillHey verunendra, can this help me at all? http://packages.debian.org/sid/firmware-iwlwifi10:30
Ben64PaintBucket: it usually does10:30
PaintBucketone final question on pulse. what is the benefit to using it?10:30
farbodi want to disable my guest session ?10:30
bekksPaintBucket: Why? Pulse doesnt affect your multimedia keys at all. It doesnt even know such keys exist.10:30
farbodcan you?10:30
varunendratracekill, I have no experience with pure debian packages nor manually compiled kernels. Can't comment on that. :(10:30
bekksPaintBucket: So if your multimedia keys arent recognized, thats not a PulseAudio issue.10:30
PaintBucketNo, it's not the keys that's an issue. It's random stuttering with audio that is.10:31
varunendratracekill, is it just the firmware or the module too ?10:31
PaintBucketThe keys are just something I'd like to keep10:31
PaintBucketlike fn+4 turns up volume10:31
farbodi want to disable my guest session  can you learn this to me?10:31
varunendratracekill, it is just a firmware pack, not going to help unless the driver asks for it.10:33
Ben64PaintBucket: stuttering could be caused by pulseaudio10:34
PaintBucketOkay, so.. I'm trying to "apt-get remove pulseaudio" and it's trying to remove gnome and gnome-core with it10:34
PaintBucketis it supposed to do that?10:34
bekksPaintBucket: I'd not remove it.10:35
mm12hey wsup all10:35
PaintBucketYeah.. what the hell. :(10:35
mm12ubuntus the best10:35
varunendratracekill, there seems to be an easy way to find out whether the ppa kernel is going to help or not.10:36
PaintBucketweird that 3,785 diskspace will be freed if it's gonna remove gnome and gnome-core alongside it. I think ..10:36
tracekillHow?10:37
PaintBucketbrb.. again10:37
tracekillvarunendra, ah also yes I see your point with your earlier comments.10:37
zengerHi guys, I have a problem, I'm trying to use nvidia-settings to configure my nvidia driver, but it fails with an error like this " You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server"10:38
xkernelwhen I open link in a web site in a new tab using google chrome, sometimes it doesn't render the content but shows blank page10:38
zengerbut when I do run the nvidia-xconfig as root, it shows that the file is written and is working10:38
varunendratracekill, the .deb package is just an archive, with the driver file in ready to use form in it. You can extract it, and run 'modinfo' on it to see if it has an alias to your device (PID : VID) which is 8086 and 08b1 for you.10:38
DJ_MuTeDHello10:41
DJ_MuTeDDoes anyone know how to remove "Amd testing use only" watermark from beta drivers on Ubuntu 13.04?10:42
tracekillvarunendra, so extract the .deb then... I hvae no idea how to run modinfo in this case.10:42
dDHow can I stop the shift key from being ignored in keybindings in dconf editor?10:42
lilstevieDJ_MuTeD: not using beta drivers tends to help10:43
GlanzmannHello; I want to use a perl plugin for freeradius on ubuntu which uses Authen::Krb5::Simple that does not work because freeradius was not rebuild after perl was updated (I saw that problem before on SuSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP2). So I tried to build freeradius from source and it fails, too. http://pbot.rmdir.de/-0ckqBMnchzSEceL9u9gWw There is a bug report but it was closed because it was not reproducable, anyone?10:44
DJ_MuTeD"Stable" drivers cause my computer not boot at all10:44
DJ_MuTeDbut beta ones work10:44
GlanzmannIf I compile freeradius without the infrastructure, it works like a charm, but I want to provide a working debian package to a customer.10:45
bekksGlanzmann: You should reopen the bug then.10:45
tracekillI'm hardly the expert on anything but shouldn't you just reopen the ticket for that specific software?10:45
zengerCould someone tell me how to uninstall the NVIDIA driver, which I have installed through a *.run package from the nvidias main site ? :)10:45
tracekillOh nevermind, somebody said it.10:45
bekkszenger: run the binary with the --uninstall option.10:45
zengerbekks: thanks10:46
tracekillHahaha, varunendra, you are my hero right now.10:46
tracekillAll I needed was 3.11 generic10:46
tracekillTalk about overcomplicating things...10:46
tracekillNow to figure out how to remove any trace of these aborted kernels :P10:46
NikThDJ_MuTeD:  Here is an answer → http://askubuntu.com/questions/206558/how-to-remove-the-amd-testing-use-only-watermark10:46
Glanzmannbekks: I should actually open two bug reports: One because the perl binding is not working and another one because it is not compiling.10:46
dDI want to use alt+shift to change keyboard language and alt + shift tab to do switch windows backwards, but it seems I can't have both configured at the same time.  I could do this in previous versions of Gnome, is there any way t fix this?10:46
bekksGlanzmann: Yeah10:46
DJ_MuTeDThis is not watermark i have NikTh10:47
GlanzmannThe problem is that I need a solution till Thursday 09:00.10:47
DJ_MuTeDMy watermark doesnt say "Unsupported device"10:47
GlanzmannOr I end up packaging freeradius myself.10:47
Glanzmannbekks: I'll do that.10:47
bekksdD: I dont think thats possible, since after oressing the first two keys of the second shortcut, the first shortcut applies. I dont think that was possible ever.10:47
dDHi bekks, I'm sure that's how it was configured, but what happened was that the first shortcut would only apply after I let go of alt (so, I would press alt + shift and nothing would happen, but then I would stop pressing alt and the keyboard would change).10:48
reisiommm, well, you could always have alt+shift+tab undo what alt+shift alone would do10:49
reisiowith der scriptenheimerz10:49
tracekillHoly crap it even works well with hte touch screen!10:49
Glanzmannbekks: What do I need to do to reopen the bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freeradius/+bug/109036510:50
ubottuUbuntu bug 1090365 in freeradius (Debian) "freeradius fails to build from source: undefined reference to symbol 'fr_perror'" [Unknown,Fix released]10:50
dDbekks, kind of like a onkeyup event10:50
varunendratracekill, sorry I got disconnected. Did you get my last message about opening the .deb on archive manager and running modprobe on the driver?10:52
tracekillOh damn, you missed my thank you message.10:52
tracekillI actually just bit the bullet and flat out installed 3.11 generic ona  whim.10:52
varunendranp then :)10:52
tracekillTurns out that was all I needed.10:52
tracekillWay overcomplicated things.10:52
varunendraReally !! Is it working now ??10:52
PaintBucketOkay.. so, I went ahead and installed remove pulse10:53
PaintBucketi'm confused.10:53
PaintBucketI can't remove gnome now.10:53
varunendratracekill, does the driver work for you now ?10:53
tracekillYeah10:55
tracekillWireless works perfectly.10:55
varunendraYay !! :D10:55
tracekillYeah it's awesome I cannot thnak you enough.10:55
PaintBucketI'm thinking I'd better do a fresh install and try this again. I can't remove gnome because it's allegedly not installed. However, i can log into my gnome profile and everything works. Now, when I try to install gnome, it tells me 7 new packages will be installed. Gnome, Gnome-core, libcanberra-pulse, pulseaudio, and a few other things. For a total of 6,273 kb10:56
varunendratracekill, pleasure is mine. I discovered a new working formula for a new device :D10:56
PaintBucketAm i missing something or is that weird?10:56
mJaykPaintBucket: that will be dependencies that are needed for other programs that have possibly been installed in the interim,10:56
varunendratracekill, repeating my last message if you missed and are interested for future use-10:57
varunendrathe trick I use to find out if there is any driver available for a particular device ID is running "grep -iR <device ID> /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net". You may try that as well in cases when you are not sure about 'Which driver'.10:57
PaintBucketHmm, but I was removing pulse audio and it wants to tear out gnome and gnome-core.. leaving a ton of abandoned packages10:58
PaintBucket:(10:58
PaintBucketI just wanted pulse gone.. ugh10:58
mJaykhow are you removing pulse?10:59
mJaykapt-get remove pulse-audio?10:59
tracekillvarunendra ah! I'd seen that somewhere during my search but couldn't find it again!10:59
PaintBucketapt-get remove pulseaudio10:59
tracekillAwesome.10:59
mJaykPaintBucket: do aptitude search ^pulse-audio11:00
varunendratracekill, could it be one of my posts ;P (cuz I didn't find it, figured out myself)11:00
bekksPaintBucket: I'd not uninstall pulse until ensuring it is pulseaudio causing your problems.11:01
PaintBucketI'm not sure what else it could be.11:02
mJaykPaintBucket: do aptitude search ^pulse-audio11:02
PaintBucketok11:03
mJayk /win 411:03
PaintBucketwhat am I looking for?11:03
bekksPaintBucket: Did you double check the pavucontrol settings?11:05
bekksPaintBucket: Which Ubuntu do you use?11:05
joshu_hi I've installed ubuntu mini 13.04 and then 'apt-get xserver-xorg lightdm'. I'm trying to learn how to configure lightdm, but when I do lightdm-set-defaults I get command not found11:05
PaintBucketusing 13.0411:06
bekksjoshu_: That command does not exist.11:06
mJaykPaintBucket: the output11:06
joshu_bekks hmm why is it mentioned in the docs https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Configuration_and_Tweaks11:06
joshu_bekks what am I supposed to do to configure lightdm?11:07
PaintBuckethttp://pastebin.com/7aT76NJE11:08
PaintBuckettheres the output11:08
bekksjoshu_: That file never existed in any package. And I am sorry, I never needed to configure lightdm, because it always worked fo me.11:09
PaintBucketSo, let's say I remove pulse. I should still have sound and be able to adjust it via alsamixer right?11:10
joshu_bekks ok I found it in /usr/lib/lightdm. It's not about lightdm not working. I need to customise it so that when a user logs in a VPN connection and then RDP session are established11:10
PaintBucketjust talking hypothetically here.11:10
bekksjoshu_: I'd do that with a custom autostart config in your session, rather than using lightdm.11:11
joshu_bekks so not using this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Autorun_a_Command ?11:12
bekksjoshu_: I'd use the autostart feature of the session, rather than the config of the *dm11:13
joshu_bekks do you have any links to tutorials, examples as I don't know how to do this?11:13
bekks!autostart | joshu_11:14
ubottujoshu_: If you want to edit your Autostart programs, open the Unity dash and search for Startup Programs. If you're on XFCE, use menu -> Settings -> Settings Manager -> Session and Startup, if you're on KDE, use Kickoff -> Computer -> System Settings -> Autostart. For more details see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup. For LXDE see http://ubottu.com/y/411:14
joshu_bekks I can't follow that as I don't have a full GUI as I explained I have only installed  'apt-get xserver-xorg lightdm'11:16
PaintBucketYou mean like you're missing unity?11:16
farbodplease presentation a proxy for me!!!:D11:17
chrisamoabhello11:17
farbodhi11:17
bekksfarbod: Please form a full question, and dont abuse interpunctuation.11:17
cfhowlettchrisamoab, greetings11:17
chrisamoabgreetings11:18
chrisamoabI have a question11:18
farbodhow i can install this proxys?11:18
bekks!ask | chrisamoab11:18
ubottuchrisamoab: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience11:18
bekksfarbod: which proxies?11:18
joshu_PaintBucket all I have is the lightdm greeter and the top bar and that's it in terms of GUI. This is what I want so that's not the issue. I'm looking for help with configuring lightdm as I understand that that's what I need to do to have a session created when a user logins in11:18
farbodbekks greetings11:18
farbodi want a proxyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy11:19
cfhowlettfarbod, and the more you do THAT the less you'll see one.11:19
PaintBucketAh, okay. Sorry, I missed your first posts and thought you meant you installed base by accident or something. Wish I could help but, I'm thinking about dropping ubuntu entirely.11:20
bekksfarbod: Stop abusing your keyboard and answer my question please.11:20
chrisamoabok, well, I was browsing the web, and I found a link to a Samoan translation (partial) of Ubuntu. However when I looked at it, it doesn't actually have a single Samoan word in it, Something seems wrong with that scenario, and I'd like to know who is behind it, and how it can be fixed11:20
farbodbekks: what is your question?11:20
bekkschrisamoab: So which link did you find?11:21
bekksfarbod: "Which proxies?"11:21
joshu_PaintBucket no worries ;)11:21
chrisamoabthis link https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/firefox/+pots/firefox/sm/+translate?field.alternative_language=&field.alternative_language-empty-marker=1&show=translated&memo=10&start=1011:21
farbodbekks: i dont have proxy and i asked you to help me11:21
bekksfarbod: And I asked to clarify which proxies you are talking about.11:22
farbodbekks:like tor11:22
bekks!tor | farbod11:22
ubottufarbod: Tor is a program to route connections through several servers for anonymity. It is in Ubuntu's repositories, but the Tor Project recommends using their Tor packages due to past issues with Ubuntu's. For setup info, see option (2) of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en | To use Tor on freenode, see !tor-sasl11:22
farbodi want a proxy like tor11:23
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tatais it possible to run ubuntu like root user always? and don't ask me for password anymore?11:24
cfhowlett!root|tata,11:25
ubottutata,: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo11:25
cfhowletttata, if you need root ALL the time, you're doing it wrong11:25
PaintBucketCan I still install gnome2 or is that dead and gone?11:25
SmiloDoi need to change my password because of the ubuntu forums hack?11:26
MonkeyDustPaintBucket  classic / fallsback looks alot like gnome211:26
cfhowlettSmilo, yes11:26
MonkeyDustfallback*11:26
PaintBucketyeah, but I can't change it apparently.11:26
SmiloWhere can i change it11:26
Smilothe site is down?11:26
cfhowlettSmilo, wait until the site is up?11:26
chrisamoabthe forums got hacked?11:26
bekksSmilo: Nowhere, until the site is up again.11:26
tataif that so I delete ubuntu for ever11:26
Smiloyeah11:26
tatathanks11:27
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MonkeyDustchrisamoab  yes, the website people have work to do11:27
Smilohttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/07/ubuntu-forum-hacked-users-advised-to-change-passwords?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG%21+Ubuntu%21%2911:27
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cfhowletttata, so be it.11:27
bekkstata: Good luck.11:27
PaintBucketI've a networking related question. I plug in my ethernet cable and nothing happens. Shouldn't it just start working as soon as I plug in it?11:27
PaintBucketlol11:27
tatathanks again11:27
k1l_tata: in ubuntu you are supposed to use sudo. what is your case for using root all the time?11:28
Smilogo to the network icon at the top and tell us what it looks like11:28
MonkeyDusttata  ruining your pc is not supported here11:28
chrisamoabcrikey, security is a bit lax11:28
chrisamoabgoes hand in hand with having dodgy translations I guess11:29
anekscan anyone recommend a good flv to avi converter?11:29
cfhowlettaneks, ffmpeg would do it11:29
Guest58780hey guys11:29
Guest58780 my ardour hangs on exports and gives errors ive tried all sorts of exports11:29
tatabecause I work fast this is my job, and password allways is wasted time11:29
cfhowlettaneks, as would aconv11:29
MonkeyDustaneks  winff is a nice gui11:29
aneksthanks guys11:29
cfhowletttata, then you should know exactly how to set a long duration sudo ... right?11:29
PaintBucketI'm confused how it's even that secure11:30
PaintBucketI changed my root password.. I'd venture to guess if I can then anyone who guesses my password can.11:30
tatano its not point in them11:30
chrisamoabcan someone explain to me how Ubuntu could have a Samoan translation which doesn't contain a single Samoan word? Does no one check these things?11:31
tatafor many file ubuntu told you dont permission...11:31
Guest58780any solution for me? where should i ask about Ardour?11:31
cfhowlettchrisamoab, translators are volunteers.  some projects are on the calendar, some are more complete than others.  if you have such skills, consider volunteering yourself11:31
cfhowlettGuest58780, ardour has a channel and there's also #ubuntustudio11:31
Guest58780cfhowlett tnx11:32
PaintBuckettata look at the pm. it tells you how to change root if you absolutely must.11:32
PaintBucketor don't..11:32
chrisamoabcfhowlett, I do have the skills, and I have ALREADY translated it, but not as part of Ubuntu, I want to know why Ubuntu has it, why it's faulty, and who can I contact to get it removed11:33
joshu_is there a plugin for network manager to add l2tp/ipsec support?11:34
cfhowlettchrisamoab, as I said, community volunteers.  see the wiki/samoa community site for a point of contact.  and translations aren't ubuntu moderated.  pretty sure that's at the community level similar to this irc11:34
chrisamoabahhh...so I need to find a wiki?11:35
cfhowlettchrisamoab, see the page as it should direct to contacts/publications.  if no wiki then just find the people listed.11:36
OerHeks chrisamoab this is a start > https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+lang/sm11:37
OerHeksthey need help, sure.11:37
cfhowlettOerHeks, good suggestion, thanks11:37
chrisamoabThanks mate, I'm checking it out11:38
as_expbuongiorno a tutti11:39
as_expnon mi funziona più il software center11:39
as_explo lancio ma non parte11:39
cfhowlett!it|as_exp,11:40
ubottuas_exp,: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)11:40
as_expI'm sorry11:41
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as_expcfhowlett, thanks11:41
chrisamoabOK, makes no sense to me, they have a translation posted, but nothing listed in that last link11:42
chrisamoabhave a good weekend11:43
PaintBucketHey.. guess what. I think I stopped the audio stutter.11:46
PaintBucketAlthough, I removed and reinstalled Pulseaudio quite a few times.11:47
bekksPaintBucket: So what did you actually do?11:47
PaintBucketI removed and reinstalled pulse audio/gnome like 40 times11:48
PaintBucketlol how does that work?11:48
PaintBucketI feel like Ubuntu = Madness11:48
PaintBucketYeah, I played a whole 4 minute song with no stuttering.11:49
bekksPaintBucket: This isnt windows. So what have actually done, besides pointlessly removig and installing the same program agan and again?11:49
PaintBucketnothing except mess things up11:49
bekksPaintBucket: Now you know why its not that good to act like being on Windows. :)11:50
PaintBucketI removed and reinstalled evolution a bunch too.11:50
PaintBucketlol well, sadly I think windows has one up on this. I removed pulse and it removed parts of gnome and that caused about 50 packages I do infact use to say they aren't used.11:51
PaintBucketIt used to be spectacular. Ubuntu was the reason I left windows about 8 years ago. This is not so cool.11:51
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meetI have ubuntu gnome installed with a separate /home partition. I want to install ubuntu 12.04 with unity over this one. how do I clean up the gnome 3 configuration files and all? I mean how to remove some config files in /home which may conflict with unity.11:52
bekksPaintBucket: Thats called "dependencies". And Thats something Windows doesnt even know about, so its uncomparable. However. You're box seems to be still running.11:53
bekksmeet: That can be done manually, only.11:53
meetbekks: what all files should be deleted then?11:53
PaintBucketI don't know why gnome-core and gnome games would be dependent on pulse though. that just really sucks.11:53
bekksmeet: You have to find that out, there is no generel rule of thumb.11:54
PaintBucketI could understand if it was just some stuff pulseaudio used to run. However I have a hunch that Nibbles isn't part of pulse..11:56
PaintBucketjust a hunch11:56
PaintBucketNot that I'm saying windows is better bekks. I detest that overpriced piece of crap microsoft pushes out. win7 looked like it was at least making progress then win8 came out and I almost puked. My gf runs that.11:57
PaintBucketI don't use her laptop ever. I'll use my cellphone first.11:57
bekksPaintBucket: So can we come back to Ubuntu support please? :)11:58
PaintBucket:) Yeah. Can you tell me how to fix this thing with the "dependencies"?11:59
PaintBucketI don't want to lose them all next time I run apt-get autoclean11:59
WorstCaseOntariohey can someone tell me what I to to get a command prompt back in a terminal. sometimes I run a program from it and dont need to see the stuff its doing, I just want to get a terminal prompt again without opening a new terminal window11:59
Estrobedai have one question. I have an asus laptop (Asus k53sm) and it has windows 7 preinstalled. Is it possible to safely install ubuntu beside windows without Wubi or should i just forget about installing ubuntu beside windows without wubi? I dont want to ruin my preinstalled windows because i have some stuff inside my windows i cant use on linux. Or it might be the wrong place to ask this question?11:59
bekks!dualboot | Estrobeda11:59
ubottuEstrobeda: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot11:59
PaintBucketI think the live cd offers to install alongside windows.12:00
bekksThats what is callled "dualboot".12:00
PaintBucketyeah12:00
Estrobedaok thx =D i will check this out.12:00
moesWhat command do I use to delete 10.04 partition so I can clean install 12.04 lts12:01
napscWorstCaseOntario: you mean send the job into the background?12:02
WorstCaseOntarionapsc I think so12:02
napscWorstCaseOntario:  put a "&" at the end of the command12:03
bekksor press ctrl+z and type bg and enter.12:03
WorstCaseOntariothanks!12:04
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joelmo1quit12:11
MonkeyDustWorstCaseOntario  fg brings the process back to the foreground12:13
pr0gu1kahello duds12:14
joshu_the top bar in at the lightdm greeter. How can I customise that? I believe I had unity-greeter12:17
MrSassyPantsWhat ist the "official" way to change permissions in /dev permanently?12:17
moesWhat command do I use to uninstall 10.04 partition so I can clean install 12.04 lts to the same partition12:18
compdocMrSassyPants, Ive never seen a need to change permissions in /dev12:19
MrSassyPantsnamely I want "chgrp -R plugdev /dev/bus/usb; chmod -R g+rw plugdev /dev/bus/usb" on a permanent basis, and a local start script seems hacky12:19
WorstCaseOntariothanks all12:19
MrSassyPantscompdoc, kde needs those permissions to be able to change the resolution of logitech mice12:19
MrSassyPantsthere's other ways to do it, but this seems the cleanest12:20
checoimgmoes : I believe you only have install on top of it choosing "something else" or "reinstall ubuntu"12:20
checoimgmoes : To uninstall you can use "os-uninstaller"12:21
MrSassyPantscompdoc, and yes, I'd categorize this as a kubuntu bug12:23
earmanhello?12:28
scarleoMrSassyPants, chmod g+s /dev/bus/usb maybe?12:28
MrSassyPantsscarleo, the problem is permanency12:29
MrSassyPantsscarleo, I want to know if there's a less hacky way than just putting chmods in a local start script12:29
scarleowell +s should be permanent and apply correct group to everything created in that path12:30
paulus68what is the best program under ubuntu to create a full diskimage like norton ghost can do?12:32
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compdocpaulus68, clonezilla is excellent, but it doesnt run under ubuntu12:33
paulus68compdoc: and what about acronis? is that a good alternative12:34
Joschiirehi12:34
compdocacronis works, but also doesnt run under ubuntu12:37
OerHeks!backup12:38
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning12:38
BrynjolfDudes, is there an IRC channel for the Ubuntu SDK?12:45
k1l_!touch | Brynjolf12:47
ubottuBrynjolf: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch12:47
Brynjolfthanks12:48
randomaussiehi guys.. i recently wiped my 12.04 and thoguht to update to 13.04 and have had nothing but problems since.. and i get crashes even trying to remake my usb drive a bootable 12.04 iso again... i've tried a couple of guide off google but i just cant get it working.. can i plesae get help reflashing my usb back to a bootable 12.04 iso so i can start again?  i have hte iso sitting in my home/dowmlaod folder ready to go12:50
BluesKajHi all12:50
bgardnerrandomaussie, what message do you get when you try to write the image?12:51
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randomaussieas far as i cen tell it writes... but when i try to boot off it i get a not bootable error nd pressing any key boots from my hdd12:52
auronandacerandomaussie: how are you trying to write the image?12:53
randomaussiemost recent guide i've tried is this...... ---> http://linuxbookpro.tumblr.com/post/19292802005/creating-a-bootable-usb-iso-from-linux-terminal-for12:54
MrBarryHello, world. Does anyone have any experience getting an IOGear print server working with 12.04?12:54
auronandacerandomaussie: using dd should be fine12:55
randomaussieyeah i seems to copy over.. but it doesnt boot....12:55
randomaussieit*12:55
randomaussiehow do i find out wich /dev/sd* my usb stick is plugged into...12:56
auronandacerandomaussie: if you didn't already know that then you really shouldn't be using dd12:57
randomaussiewell i was just following the guide...12:57
auronandacerandomaussie: before using dd you should know in advance which device you are applying it to otherwise you'll be overwriting something you may not intend to12:59
th0rrandomaussie: to answer your question...when I need to know the /dev I opent a terminal, 'tail -f /var/log/syslog', and then plug in the device13:00
Naphatulhow do i load the kvm module if it ships with the kernel at all?13:00
randomaussieah thanks13:00
stefano_26WTF happened to ubuntuforums lol13:00
OerHeksstefano_26, you didn't read the message?13:01
stefano_26OerHeks, Yeah... I read it... what a shame! The platform was based on vbulletin.. proprietary software13:02
stefano_26OerHeks, And someone hacked it too! LOL13:02
irssi-mikeDid somebody hack into the ubuntu forum13:02
MrSassyPantsi got /etc/dhcp and /etc/dhcp3  - this is confusing me and I'd like to know if I can remove either of those13:02
woe_is_meI've had to change all my passwords because of the breech, mainly because I can't remember what password I actually used on the forums!13:03
randomaussieauronanface and th0r: thankyou.. its booting now13:03
stefano_26woe_is_me, haahahahahahaha shame on you Canonical!13:03
stefano_26I can't believe13:04
OerHeksstefano_26, take this to #ubuntu-offtopic, keep this channel clear for support, thanks13:04
xqeeHello guys, can some1 help me to install Asus u3100 mini plus on ubuntu 12.04 server, thanks ?13:04
MrBarryI had just asked a ? on the forums, and had to reset my password to do so. So I know it's something random and not in use elsewhere.13:04
stefano_26OerHeks, hahaha okay...13:04
RAINhi13:05
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xqeeUbuntu Forums is down for maintenance ?13:06
woe_is_mexqee: It's been hacked.13:06
Guest54506no13:07
Guest54506no13:07
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xqeeomg, very band13:07
FloodBot1Guest54506: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:07
xqeebad*13:07
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xqeeanyone knows when site will be back ?13:11
varunendraxqee, we only know as much as mentioned on the notification page. If you have some problems regarding ubuntu you may ask here.13:13
OerHeksaskubuntu is still up13:13
xqeeI need to install this: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0b05:1779 ASUSTek Computer, Inc. My Cinema U3100 Mini Plus [AF9035A]13:14
varunendraOerHeks, "still"... are you expecting something ? ;)13:14
Laurenceb__hi13:14
* OerHeks hardly visits ubuntuforums, askubuntu is more powerfull13:14
Laurenceb__i have a problem, somethiung is using 50% of my cpu13:14
Laurenceb__ie one full core13:14
xqeecan someone help me with installing ?13:14
Laurenceb__i can't see it in top13:14
varunendraxqee, what kind of device is that?13:14
ikoniaLaurenceb__: what do you see in top ?13:14
Laurenceb__but its there is the system monitor13:14
ikoniaLaurenceb__: can you take a screenshot ?13:14
xqeevarunendra its dvb-t usb card13:15
Laurenceb__wait found it13:15
Laurenceb__it was the wifi driver13:15
ikoniaxqee: do you know if it has linux support ?13:15
Laurenceb__disable/reenable wifi and its fixed13:15
xqeeikonia it has http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Asus_U3100_Mini_plus_DVB-T13:15
ikoniaxqee: can you showme the output of "uname -a"13:16
varunendraLaurenceb__, which driver it was ? Just curious.13:16
xqeeLinux hlinux 3.5.0-23-generic #35~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 25 17:15:33 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux13:16
ikoniaxqee: ok, so as you can see in that page you listed, it needs 3.7 kernel13:16
ikoniaxqee: you have 3.513:17
xqeehow can i get that kernel ?13:17
ikoniaxqee: you can't really.....what version of ubuntu is this ?13:17
xqee12.04 lts server13:17
varunendraxqee, 13.04 has kernel 3.8+13:17
ikoniaxqee: ok, so you have 2 choices13:17
ikoniaxqee: 1.) use the back ported kernel form 12.10/13.04 - 2.) install 13.0413:17
irssi-mikei've changed x-terminal-emulator in update-alternatives but when i press ctrl+alt+t i'm still getting gnome-emulator13:17
ikoniaxqee: is here a reason you choice 12.04 over 13.04 when you installed ?13:18
xqeeikonia amd duron 900mhz, 256 mb ram and agp 64mb card13:18
irssi-mikenevermind i'll just try bringing lightdm down and up again13:18
ikoniaxqee: sorry, that's not what I asked13:18
xqeeif that config can handle 13.04 ill install it13:18
ikoniaxqee: no more / less thatn 12.0413:19
ikoniaxqee: you're really on the limit of usability though13:19
ikoniaxqee: 256ram is not enough to run it13:19
ikoniaxqee: the duron is a very weak processor for a modern deskop13:19
xqeeikonia i know i just want ftp server, and pvr desktop (headendtv) it should work13:20
ikoniaxqee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements13:20
ikoniaxqee: it's really lacking ram and your processesor is on the limit of "required"13:20
xqeei have other dvb-t card13:21
xqeesec ill check what is its name13:21
ikoniathe dvb card is not the problem13:21
mumpitzelxqee: run lubuntu13:21
xqeeikonia, can i run this IT9135 BDA Device13:22
ikoniaxqee: it's not the card that's the problem13:22
mumpitzelxqee: your cpu might be too slow to decode the HD mpeg stream. and unity will use more RAM than your PC has which is why you should choose anotehr desktop environment13:22
ikoniathe desktop enviornment wo'nt matter13:23
ikonialxde and xfce still require 51213:23
xqeei wont use it to watch tv on it, its just server13:23
ikoniaREAD the requirements page13:23
xqeei use xfce4 on that machine :)13:23
ikoniaxqee: ok, then use 13.0413:24
ikoniaxqee: and you can use your TV card, no issue13:24
mumpitzelikonia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#System_Requirements they clearly state 256MB is fine.13:24
xqeeikonia do i need some drivers or something ?13:25
ikoniamumpitzel: yes, it's listed as !minimal13:25
mumpitzelxubuntu wants 256min and 512 recommended13:25
ikoniaxqee: no, as it has the kernel that supports it13:25
ikoniamumpitzel: exactly minimum13:25
mumpitzelikonia: no. 128MB is minimal. 256-386 is "better and more usable"13:25
mumpitzelikonia: please read the page more carefully13:25
ikoniareally it's 12813:25
ikoniamumpitzel: yes, I can see the link hanging off it13:25
xqeeikonia what is this ? Compiling v9.08.14.1 may be very adventurous. I have made some pathology to original driver :) and reduce it only to ASUS_U3100_mini device and fix various incompatibilities. Minimum additional modification are needed to installing. Works well for kernel < 2.6.35.13:25
ikoniaxqee: why are you not listening to what I've said13:26
ikoniaxqee: if you install 13.04 - it has the right kernel in for it to work out the box13:26
xqeeikonia sorry and thanks on your help13:26
ikoniaxqee: you're using 3.5 currently, so why are you looking at kernel 2.6.35 details13:26
xqeeikonia iam going to get 13.0413:26
ikoniaxqee: the wiki page you've quoted to me shows it has native support as of 3.7 kerne13:27
ikoniakernel13:27
xqeeikonia ubuntu server 13.04 doesnt have 32bit support ?13:27
ikoniaxqee: there is a 32bit version, yes13:28
xqeeikonia found it thanks!13:28
FernseherArch Linux vs. Ubuntu13:29
FernseherGO !13:29
ikoniaFernseher: no13:29
ikoniaFernseher: there is no need for that discussion, and it is pointless, as it's personal opinion13:29
ikoniaFernseher: do some research and find out what you like13:29
ikoniaFernseher: also you'll get a better response if you talk to people in the hcannel rather than joining and barking words at them13:29
Fernseher^^13:30
huttanWinner: ikonia13:31
huttanlol :)13:31
ikoniano need for that13:31
randomaussiewhile i'm re-learning linux.. can i just mount the hole hard drive to / and have linux compensate?13:31
huttanikonia: im well aware of the rules, u just made me smile mate :)13:31
ikoniarandomaussie: what do you mean by compensate ?13:31
randomaussieif i just mount the hole drive to / will linux handle np /root /home?13:32
hocin20metasploit problem please help..13:32
ikoniarandomaussie: sure sure, no problem with that13:32
ikoniarandomaussie: they are just directories, nothing more13:32
hocin20what this message Problem running post-install step. Installation may not complete correctly13:32
hocin20 Error running su postgres -c '"/opt/metasploit/postgresql/bin/pg_ctl" start -w' : pg_ctl.bin: could not start server13:32
hocin20Examine the log output.13:32
ikoniahocin20: that is not postgres installed by ubuntu13:33
ikoniahocin20: that has come from a 3rd party resource, and not something we deal with13:33
randomaussieikonia: thanks mate..13:34
hocin203rd party resource..13:34
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Guest5021hello guys somebody can help me to install ubuntu touch on my tablet step by step?13:36
hocin20how i can install metasploit correctely in ubuntu 12.0413:36
randomaussiefair... i used dd to make my a bootalbe usb drive from the 12.04 iso and i get an error that i cant get past saying "/dev/sda contains GPT singature bla bla" asking if its corrupt or not but clicking yes and no do nothing13:36
ikoniahocin20: the problem there isn't metasploits the postgres binary it's trying to run13:37
randomaussiehaha ffs....***13:37
ikoniarandomaussie: no need for that language13:37
randomaussieyeah i know just frustrated i'v gotten nowhere with weeks of playing around13:37
Guest5021nobody can help me?13:38
hocin20Another problem is the failure of the database configuration13:38
ikoniahocin20: as I've just said, that postgres install has not come from ubuntu,13:40
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ikoniahocin20: you'll need to work with where you got that metasploit build/database setup from to get it resolved.13:40
ikoniahocin20: postgres has an ubuntu package, but you are using 3rd party builds/software13:40
Guest5021hello guys somebody can help me to install ubuntu touch on my tablet step by step?13:41
Guest5021hello guys somebody can help me to install ubuntu touch on my tablet step by step?13:42
Guest5021hello guys somebody can help me to install ubuntu touch on my Acer Iconia B1 tablet step by step?13:42
ikoniaGuest5021: please check your private message window13:43
moesWhat command do I use to delete 10.04 partition so I can clean install 12.04 lts13:44
GothPawHello, I'm trying to mount a ntfs hdd and I keep getting this error:  -->  In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows then reboot into Windows twice. Is there a way to do this "WITHOUT" windows? I don't have access to a windows machine.....13:44
ikoniamoes: just use gparted13:44
ikoniaGothPaw: really need to do it from windows, it's the right tool for the right job13:44
moesikonia, Thanks13:44
GothPawI dont have windows.....  NEVER have13:45
ikoniaGothPaw: then why do you have an NTFS disk13:45
paulus68hi Ikonia long time no see is there a good software to create an disk image of ubuntu like Norton ghost for windows?13:45
ikoniapaulus68: hello there, there are a few ways to approach this13:45
ikoniapaulus68: is this image to be used as a disk backup, a deployment for one machine, a deployment for multiple machines etc etc13:46
paulus68ikonia: just a backup to use after all my programs are installed so whenever I have to much trash I can just start over with the created image13:47
Guest5021Acer Iconia B1, is it possible to install ubuntu touch on this device?13:47
ikoniapaulus68: how big is your hard disk ?13:47
paulus68ikonia: it's 60 gig13:47
gordonjcpGuest5021: ask in #ubuntu-touch13:47
ikoniapaulus68: do you have somewhere to store a 60GB image ?13:47
ikoniaeg: usb disk13:48
Guest5021ty13:48
paulus68ikonia: I can yes13:48
gordonjcpGothPaw: will fsck.ntfs fix it?13:48
MrSassyPantsok, DDNS-Question: can someone explain to me why the dhcp'd/ddns'd notebook ends up in a .local zone? I can ping it with book.local, but book.mydomain doesn't find it. I have no .local zone and as far as I can tell, ddns is set up so dhcp'd clients should end up in .mydomain13:48
ikoniapaulus68: perfect, I think if you use "dd" to take an image from a livecd you'll find that the best way to approch this13:48
ikoniagordonjcp: doesn't fix the warning, plus it's not great13:48
ikoniaI've seen it corrupt a few file systems13:49
paulus68ikonia: ok thanks13:49
ikoniapaulus68: dd will take a block by block image, which means it will take the partition table, boot sector, grub etc etc, all in one go13:49
ikoniapaulus68: do you know how to do it with "dd" ?13:49
gordonjcpikonia: well that's what happens when you try to squeeze 40-year-old VMS disks onto modern machines13:49
paulus68ikonia: nope never worked with it13:49
ikoniapaulus68: ok, you want to take the image of your disk, while running from a livecd if possible (so that nothing is in use)13:50
paulus68ikonia: brb kids in  trouble13:50
ikoniapaulus68: ok13:50
giraffe_anyone get left4dead2 working?13:50
xqeegiraffe_ it should work with ubuntu 13.0413:51
OerHeksGothPaw, the only tool i can think of without Windows, is UBcd, ultimate boot cd with free mbr/ntfs/partition tools13:51
ikoniayou're not going to do this safely / correctly without windows13:51
xqeegiraffe_ with steam13:52
giraffe_yes with steam13:52
MrBarryAn IOGear print server is giving me a "Error writing spool: NT_STATUS_IO_TIMEOUT" error with 12.04. Any ideas?13:52
giraffe_should and have ..13:52
giraffe_lots of people have good intentions and usually fail13:52
GothPawbecause I have a friend that stops by once in a while with a netbook13:52
acdarekarI have win7x64 UEFI GPT scheme installation. Tried to install Ubuntu13.04x64 using USB-stick. The stick boots but keyboard freezes. Can anybody shade some light over the matter?13:52
paulus68ikonia: back13:52
ikoniaGothPaw: I'm sure you must know someone with a windows machine who can quickly run a chkdsk on it13:53
randomaussieno matter how many times i remake my bootable ucb stick i keep getting hte GPT error.. i cant work out what i'm foing worng... only started getting htem today13:53
xqeeacdarekar did you tried ps/2 keyboard ?13:53
ikoniapaulus68: ok, boot from livecd, plug in usb drive, then do "dd if=/dev/yourdisk of=/dev/yourusbdisk bs=2m"13:53
gordonjcprandomaussie: has it previously been partitioned with GPT?13:53
ikoniapaulus68: where you replace the disks eg: /dev/sda and /dev/sdc13:53
randomaussiefat a fat 32 usb13:54
xqeeacdarekar also enable usb keyboard support in bios13:54
randomaussieitsa**13:54
ikoniapaulus68: quick read on "man dd" wouldn't hurt13:54
gordonjcpGothPaw: can you use fsck.ntfs to get it going enough to mount, then copy everything off and reformat it?13:54
GothPawikonia. nope i dont....  only one person who has a netbook and i obviously cant put a desktop hdd  in that13:54
ikoniaGothPaw: you can with a usb connector13:54
gordonjcpwhy would a netbook help?13:55
acdarekarI am using PS/2 KB. I booted latest archlinux build in the same way I want ubuntu to.13:55
ikoniagordonjcp: it's the only person he knows with a windows install to actually do a chkdsk on the device hs' having a problem13:55
acdarekarThe archlinux installation works13:55
Guest5021Acer Iconia B1 Is it possible to install ubuntu touch on this device13:55
Guest5021?13:55
GothPawusb connector? its an internal drive.....13:56
ikoniaGuest5021: #ubuntu-touch is the correct channel as you've been told13:56
gordonjcpGuest5021: stop asking that over and over13:56
paulus68ikonia: ok thanks just another quick question is there an ubuntu, xubuntu or lubuntu that doesn't need pae? since my other laptop doesn't work with this13:56
ikoniapaulus68: what do you mean doesn't need pae ?13:56
gordonjcpGothPaw: pop the drive out, plug it into a USB adaptor13:56
Guest5021there is nobody online on that channel13:56
ikoniaGuest5021: there are many people13:56
GothPawill try the fsck.ntfs13:56
ikoniaGothPaw: I assume the data is not important13:56
gordonjcpikonia: oh, you can run Windows on netbooks?13:56
paulus68ikonia: During install I get the message that my cpu is not supported due to pae13:56
randomaussieGordonjcp: the usb is being formatter each time to fat 32 and hte install srive i clear the partition table each time i try13:56
ikoniagordonjcp:....apparantly13:56
GothPawi dont have this "adapter"13:57
GothPawyes, the data is semi-important13:57
ikoniaGothPaw: then I would not recommend fsck.ntfs13:57
gordonjcprandomaussie: right, but has it ever been partitioned with GPT?13:58
anoneeim compiling ponymix, and when i try to do sudo make I get: g++ -std=c++11 -Wall -Wextra -pedantic -O2 -g -DPONYMIX_VERSION=\"1\"  -D_REENTRANT      -c -o pulse.o pulse.cc13:58
anoneecc1plus: error: unrecognized command line option ‘-std=c++11’13:58
anoneemake: *** [pulse.o] Error 113:58
gordonjcpanonee: don't do "sudo make"13:59
randomaussiegordonjcp: i never di it myself i dont even know what it is13:59
gordonjcprandomaussie: try zeroing out the first *and last* few blocks of the disk13:59
acdarekar@xqee My problem is unique, I never found anything relevant to my search but somewhere some dude mentioned the same in relation with arcjlinux, so I downloaded that distro. The KB doesn't freeze in that case. But it does in ubuntu13.04x64 UEFI GPT scheme.13:59
randomaussiegordonjcp: ok remaking the usb agian13:59
anoneegordonjcp :)14:00
xqeeacdarekar i do not know than, try to ask ikonia (hes expert)14:00
GothPawikonia: what can i do then?14:01
acdarekar@xqee, I am a bit blunt in irc rules, can I @ mention him?14:01
ikoniaGothPaw: here are you options 1.) use the windows tools form somewhere - the correct tools for the job, and make sure you friend does a proper job giving you data 2.) use other tools such suggested which may/may not help, but also have a risk of damaging the data14:01
xqeehighlight him, yes14:01
acdarekar@ikonia, Hi! I have win7x64 UEFI GPT scheme installation. Tried to install Ubuntu13.04x64 using USB-stick. The stick boots but keyboard freezes. Can you shade some light over the matter?14:02
ikoniaacdarekar: I'd try simple tests such as hit the capslock key to see if the light goes on/off find out if it really has hung, or is just not working14:03
ikoniaacdarekar: also at what point it stops working maybe important14:03
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acdarekarThe UEFI boot menu- screen where it lets me choose between install ubuntu or try ubuntu  or check the installation media. The keyboard freezes to numLock key.14:05
ikoniaacdarekar: hang on, the boot menu from the boot loader on the usb stick, or the menu from the uefi selection sreen from your system14:06
acdarekar@ikonia I am using the same KB for windows and this live session of a 32bit .iso14:06
acdarekar@ikonia the one from bootloader, I have to manually select to boot into UEFI stick by using F10 key.14:07
columbHow do I restore default system packages?14:09
acdarekarI have used win xp-x386, win7-x386, win7-x64 using the same KB14:10
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keijo_osx14:11
netlarIf I get "Data Set Management TRIM supported" with the hdparm command, my ssd is already using Trim and nothing needs to be changed right?14:12
acdarekar@ikonia, I am pretty sure it's a bug.14:12
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MrSassyPantsis guvcview still the best thing to test webcams?14:14
donivanboohey people i have a question14:18
* [Derek] hi14:18
GiGaHuRtZWho has experience compiling and installing a kernel on ubuntu not using the "debian/ubnuu way"?14:18
ikoniaacdarekar: a bug in what ?14:19
donivanboohey whats the best way to set a dual boot  i have a currently installed oem windows instal and want to choose what to boot as soon as i boot14:19
ikoniaGiGaHuRtZ: yes, why ?14:19
ikoniadonivanboo: if you install ubuntu along side windows, you get a boot menu to select which you want to boot14:19
GiGaHuRtZikonia: I can build the kernel, and on other distros I know how to install it. I just want to know if there is a preferred method of installation on ubuntu.14:19
donivanboosoo if i boot live and set it to instal and set a partition when it instals it will auto do it?14:20
ikoniaGiGaHuRtZ: what do yo umean prefered way ?, it's basically one file dropped into /boot until you are building proper pacakges, what are you actually asking ?14:20
GiGaHuRtZLike is there a way to get the kernel to be added to those scripts that run sometimes during upgrades where it checks and reconfigures grub and sutff14:20
ikoniadonivanboo: auto what /14:20
ikoniaGiGaHuRtZ: it will not be part of any of the official ubuntu scripts, such as the grub update scripts, as ubuntu's package manager will not be aware of it14:20
GiGaHuRtZOk, Well if I wanted to build packagtes. How can I go about doing it. I found some decent directions on packaging the kernel14:21
GiGaHuRtZLet me show you14:21
acdarekar@ikonia may be a installer bug, or my hardware setup is not ok with the ubuntu 13.04 x6414:21
donivanboowill it auto set up the bootloader without damaging anything?14:21
acdarekar@ikonia, the same installer works if I disable UEFI boot.14:21
GiGaHuRtZikonia: I was looking at using basically this http://pastebin.com/NTnXg1ci14:21
donivanbooive heard its easy to mess up the master boot record?14:21
ikoniaacdarekar: sorry, I'm still not clear, which menu it's hanging on, the UEFI one from your system, or the boot menu from the usb stick14:22
GiGaHuRtZwhich does work for packaging into a deb14:22
GiGaHuRtZbut I had one issue with that command for building to a package14:22
ikoniaGiGaHuRtZ: sorry, that looks bad to me.14:22
acdarekar@ikonia The boot menu from the Stick.14:22
GiGaHuRtZthe "kernel-headers" part14:22
ikoniaacdarekar: interesting14:22
GiGaHuRtZikonia: Well its shown in the ubuntu help as being a good way to do it14:22
GiGaHuRtZAnd others agreed14:22
acdarekar@ikonia yes and frustrating to me.14:23
ikoniathen why are you asking, you already have your answer, I disagree, but that's just my view14:23
GiGaHuRtZBut like I said, if I try building with "kernel-headers" it doesnt know a target with that name14:23
donivanbooand after i do so if i wanted could i instal backtrack 5 with it not removing that or messing either up?14:23
GiGaHuRtZOmfg....14:23
ikoniaGiGaHuRtZ: please do'nt use that language14:23
GiGaHuRtZwhat language?14:23
ikoniadonivanboo: multiple linux distributions, that's getting more complex14:23
ikoniaGiGaHuRtZ: OMFG14:23
GiGaHuRtZSeriously, I really do not care for language anyway. This is IRC, I'm not afraid of consequences.14:23
BluesKajGiGaHuRtZ, this one is worth a try , no need to build, just add the deb , apt-cache search to find the headers and the kernels. http://liquorix.net/14:23
donivanbooi just want windows 7 ubuntu and backtrack XD14:24
ikoniadonivanboo: ok, join #backtrack-linux and ask them for help14:24
GiGaHuRtZlmao14:24
donivanbookk14:24
satyamheyy14:25
donivanbooit wont let me send messages on there =/14:25
donivanbooalso says no loger supported or maintained14:25
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ikoniadonivanboo: you need to register on the freenode network to use the channel14:25
ikoniadonivanboo: the #freenode channel can help you with that14:26
acdarekar@ikonia, where should I seek more info? Google failed me or doesnt give relavan results to my keywords.14:26
ikoniaacdarekar: I'm just having a look myself at the moment14:26
ikoniaacdarekar: is there anything specificl about this keyboard ?14:26
acdarekarNope, I never found anything, I even borrowed my friends it still doesnt work on my system.14:27
ikoniaacdarekar: interesting, so you've actually tried another keyboard14:27
ikoniaacdarekar: I don't know if this is possible, but it would certainly interest me, but can you boot ubuntu from a cd and do the same test ?14:28
acdarekar@ikonia, yes I have tried another KB since someone suggested me to do the same two weeks ago. No I cant boot CD, as I dont have a CD-ROM. Its very hard to get hands on one. I can give you CPU-Z result.14:29
streulmadoes Microsoft Silverlight works with Ubuntu ?14:30
ikoniaacdarekar: why do I want cpu-z results14:31
Nothing_MuchI need some help14:31
Nothing_Muchsnd-cmipci isn't working for me14:31
Nothing_MuchI can't insert snd_cmipci in my modules14:32
UnHolyTerrorstreulma, no but moonlight does... and the newest WINE1.6 has support for Silverlight. have you tried downloading silverlight from your linux system?14:33
Nothing_MuchBah14:33
streulmaUnHolyTerror: I think the sound is bad in Ubuntu. I have a site that has Silverlight (new Silverlight) support, but I saw didn't works on Linux14:34
Nothing_MuchDon't use Wine14:35
satyamWhat has happened to UbuntuForums....?? It's still not Recovered..!! I want it badly...14:35
Nothing_Muchsatyam, Me too, I'm having a pretty big problem with snd-cmipci14:35
acdarekar@ikonia, CPU-z results if you want insights of my assembled desktop.14:35
streulmaUnHolyTerror: I stick with Windows XP then :( Windows 7 with 120 days support is an option :)14:36
Nothing_MuchCan I please get some help with snd_cmipci? It won't load for me after an update today14:37
zagibuhello guys, i have no sound on my asus laptop, it seems the soundcard is not recognized, because the only channel I see in alsamixer is "BEEP"14:38
blischalkMy ubuntu 13.04 hangs at the booting screen with the dots and can't track figure out how to debug.  I have searched the net and the only  help I have found is to pres ESC while it is booting but the boot seems to be stuck in a loop.  Things fly by so fast you can't really make out what is being said but I can tell it seems the same sorts of lines are being repeated.14:38
blischalkHas anyone else been having problems with ubuntu 13.04 hanging recently?14:39
zagibui've already donesome research and it seems snd-hda-intel should be the correct module14:40
Nothing_Muchzagibu, What?14:40
Nothing_MuchI'm using a C-Media sound card14:40
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Nothing_MuchI NEED snd-cmipci14:40
zagibui have no sound, alsa doesn't recog the onboard sound14:41
Nothing_MuchIt just stopped working after I updated it!!14:41
Nothing_MuchI'm on Ubuntu 13.1014:42
Nothing_MuchDoes that make a difference?14:42
BluesKajzagibu, open a terminal and run , sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , then you may have to reboot , if the driver/module is corrctly loaded , there will be no output from the command14:42
zagibuBluesKaj: when I do that and check the syslog, it says failed to loadthe module14:43
Nothing_MuchIt's not using the right sound card :/14:44
zagibuhmmm, no wait, it didn't log an error now14:44
Nothing_MuchI had to blacklist snd-hda-intel because it would default to my graphics and onboard card14:44
Nothing_Much*sound cards14:44
kovu2296hello i have a asus1201n and it keeps overheating how do i overclock the fan speed14:44
xqeekovu2296 try in bios14:45
BluesKajNothing_Much, run sudo modprobe snd-cmipci , and read theabove post to zagibu14:45
Nothing_MuchERROR: could not insert 'snd_cmipci': Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)14:45
kovu2296@xqee how please14:45
zagibualright, will reboot to see if it changedanything14:45
Nothing_MuchI just did14:46
Nothing_MuchStill nothing14:46
BluesKajNothing_Much, then the snd-cmipci is not the right name of the kernel module14:46
xqeeyou should have hardware tab in bios  and smart fan option enable it and you should control fan14:46
xqeealso repleace thermal paste14:46
Nothing_Muchhttp://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-cmipci14:47
Nothing_MuchIt is14:47
Nothing_Much:/14:47
FloodBot1Nothing_Much: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.14:47
xqeeif its laptop clean it14:47
kovu2296so i restart with f2 to enter bios14:47
moondoganyone been to the ubuntu forums recently?14:47
kovu2296its a netbook14:48
Nothing_Muchmoondog, it's still down atm14:48
moondogyeah, I noticed14:48
moondogsecurity breach14:48
moondogunfortunate14:48
Nothing_MuchGuh14:49
BluesKajNothing_Much, paste the output , cat /proc/asound/modules14:52
Nothing_MuchI don't have an output14:53
CatbuntuHihi, what's Ubuntu Discourse?14:53
ikoniaCatbuntu: in what reference ?14:54
Catbuntuubuntu-discourse.org14:54
ikoniaCatbuntu: that's not an official ubuntu site14:54
CatbuntuNo?14:54
CatbuntuIt has the Ubuntu-ish menu at the top14:54
kovu2296i tried what you said but there was not that option in the bios menu14:54
xqeekovu2296 is that laptop or desktop pc ?14:55
kovu2296its a netbook14:55
ikoniaCatbuntu: looks like it may become official at some point authenticating against ubuntu-one14:55
xqeetry to clean it out14:55
Nothing_MuchI don't have an output14:55
Catbuntuuhm14:55
xqeeclean fan and other14:55
kovu2296i have done i blew it out with a air can14:56
kovu2296is there a command so i can install smartfan14:56
izidorhi, is there somebody who can help me with a custom XKB layout?14:57
Nothing_MuchWhat's an 'mpu_port'?14:57
xqeeinstall sudo apt-get install lm-sensors14:57
izidorfor some reason, in 13.04 AltGr combination doesn't work14:57
xqeeInstall lm-sensors than run sudo sensors-detect14:58
xqeecheck temperatures14:58
CoreyI thought lm-sensors had been deprecated?14:58
CoreyI thought wrong. Disregard me.14:59
Nothing_MuchI don't have an output14:59
Nothing_MuchBah14:59
xqeeidk :)14:59
kovu2296ok i said yes to all the prompts now what15:01
xqeetype sensors15:01
xqeeand you should get output15:02
Nothing_MuchCan I get some help with CMI PCI please??15:02
kovu2296acpitz-virtual-015:03
kovu2296Adapter: Virtual device15:03
kovu2296temp1:        +74.0°C  (crit = +93.0°C)15:03
kovu2296coretemp-isa-000015:03
kovu2296Adapter: ISA adapter15:03
kovu2296Core 0:       +85.0°C  (crit = +125.0°C)15:03
FloodBot1kovu2296: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:03
kovu2296Core 1:       +88.0°C  (crit = +125.0°C)15:03
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kovu2296sorry :s i forgot about the paste flood fuction15:04
BluesKajNothing_Much, run aplay -l .pastebin the output pls15:05
Nothing_MuchNo soundcards found >:/15:05
Nothing_MuchI'm telling you though, I have a C-Media sound card and the module isn't loading for me after today's update to Ubuntu 13.10!15:06
kovu2296http://paste.ubuntu.com/5897522/15:06
NewbtoArchhow do I open a terminal fom a terminal15:07
mumpitzelNothing_Much: and what is the error message when you try loading it?15:07
Nothing_Much........15:07
Nothing_MuchERROR: could not insert 'snd_cmipci': Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)15:07
Nothing_MuchThat's it15:07
xqeepretty high, try to  disassembly your netbook , repleace thermal paste and clean it out.15:07
NewbtoArchanyone?15:07
mumpitzelNothing_Much: then do what the helpful error message says. most likely the module is not from the current kernel15:07
Nothing_Much[ 1685.179288] snd_cmipci: Unknown parameter `mpu_port'15:07
BluesKajNothing_Much, have you tried a dist-upgrade ?15:08
Nothing_MuchStill nothing15:08
Nothing_Muchwell15:09
Nothing_MuchHow do I get back to an earlier kernel?15:09
Nothing_MuchThrough grub15:09
mumpitzelNothing_Much: install the earlier kernel with dpkg or apt15:09
mumpitzelcheck if the kernel deb is still in /var/cache/apt/archives/15:09
jameshello15:09
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xqeeikonia 13.04 installed and runs without problems on 256mb ram15:10
kovu2296i cant disasemmble my netbook i had it maintained a week ago in the show and they did replace the thermal paste and blow it out with the compressed air blower and the fan is working so it can only be the fan speed left15:10
ikoniaxqee: 13.04 ubuntu / lubuntu /xubuntu ?15:10
xqeeubuntu15:10
ikoniaxqee: I doubt that very much15:10
ikoniaxqee: but I'm glad you've got your card working15:10
xqeethanks15:11
dozcoovubuntu forum was hacked15:11
gaz1310ok sherlock15:11
k1l14i downgraded my kernel to 3.4, trying to get this nvidia driver package installed. but now when i select the kernel in grub and try to access terminal after i logout of xubuntu, nothing shows...15:12
k1l14;0(15:12
gaz1310uh15:12
gaz13103.4? why15:12
k1l14the driver package wont work with a kernel higher then that15:13
k1l14NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.07-pkg115:13
BluesKajk1l14, which driver?15:13
gaz1310sudo apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau15:14
k1l14its for a geforce3 ti 20015:14
gaz1310jockey-text --help15:14
gaz1310jockey-text -l15:14
gaz1310jockey-text -e xorg:nvidia_current15:14
BluesKajwon't the nvidia-current driver run that card?15:14
BluesKajk1l14,^15:14
k1l14nope ;0(15:15
k1l14its a dino card, lol15:15
dozcoovFor security purposes, please change the password of your email address registered to ubuntuforums.org15:15
gaz1310its kernel related15:15
k1l14was that directed at me gaz?15:16
k1l14i have to run them commands?15:16
gaz1310yeah15:17
gaz1310that way you can install without X15:18
gaz1310last resort15:18
JacksonIsaac.15:19
k1l14Package xserver-xorg-video-nouveau is not installed, so not removed15:19
gaz1310good15:19
k1l14i think it's using the vesa driver15:19
gaz1310now try the rest15:19
mumpitzelk1l14: the old nvidia binary drivers need not only old kernel(s) but old Xorg versions too. if your card isn't supported by nvidia anymore, just use nouveau15:20
gaz1310lol how OLd is the card15:20
joshu_hi is there an ubuntu equivalent to team viewer? I know team viewer is available for ubuntu but I think it requires wine.15:21
mumpitzel!vino15:21
k1l14i dunno but it's old as hell15:22
k1l14lol15:22
mumpitzeljoshu_: vino is a standard vnc server and part of gnome15:22
xqeehttp://download.teamviewer.com/download/teamviewer_linux.deb15:22
mumpitzelk1l14: what does lspci -nn say?15:22
gaz1310lol15:22
xqeehttp://www.teamviewer.com/hr/download/linux.aspx15:22
k1l14i get this: Unknown driver: xorg:nvidia_current15:22
vfwjoshu_: There are a couple of vnc options, but no, I don't think there is something that can really replace teamviewer, (just install teamviewer if you need it).15:22
BluesKajmumpitzel, 's suggestion is a good one nouveau works very well15:22
gaz1310yeah15:22
gaz1310read the pci output15:22
xqeehttp://www.teamviewer.com/hr/help/363-How-do-I-install-TeamViewer-on-my-Linux-distribution.aspx15:22
joshu_hi mumpitzel but a vnc server makes remote support difficult with regards to firewalls, nat etc which I can't expect a user to understand how to configure. Teamviewer solves that15:23
gaz1310lspci -nn15:23
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joshu_xqee I installed the deb package, but I'm trying to figure out how to start it with I only have a minimal ubuntu install with xserver-xorg and lightdm15:24
xqeetry type temviewer15:25
gaz1310joshu_   install -fy15:25
mumpitzeljoshu_: dpkg -L <packagename>|grep bin  and you know where the binaries are and what their names are15:25
vfwjoshu_: Shouldn't be a problem, just find out what the executable is.  In a terminal type teamv and hit tab, that should show you, (may be teamviewer8).15:25
joshu_gaz1310 mumpitzel vfw ok so when I drop to the terminal via ctrl+alt+F1 (again minimal system and GUI) and I execute team viewer I get the following15:26
vfwjoshu_: (The tab key is your friend.)15:27
joshu_http://cl.ly/image/3Y31170O1r1415:27
xqeejoshu_ first type startx15:28
xqeethan try temviewer15:28
xqeeyou do not have any gui to teamviewer work with15:29
vfwjoshu_: Is this (http://cl.ly/image/3Y31170O1r14) a console or a GUI terminal. (Because teamviewer requires an X windows session).15:29
Dr_Williscaniocal should really leverage ubuntu one, and add some stuff like a teamviewer-type clone and other features to make ubuntu stand out from the other disrtos.  ;)15:30
gaz1310soon it will be a MiR session :D15:30
joshu_xqee that the terminal I get when I do ctrl+alt+F1 from the lightdm greeter15:30
Dr_Willisjoshu_,  the consoles are on alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 - X session should be on alt-ctrl-f715:31
joshu_Dr_Willis when I do ctrl-alt-f7 I get back to the lightdm greeter yes15:32
xqeejoshu_ instal xfce4 and than should work :)15:32
Dr_Willisteamviewer i imagine needs to be ran from a GUI X session.15:32
gaz1310log in to x15:32
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Dr_Willisthe error message sort of says that. ;)15:33
vfwjoshu_: You said that you did ctrl+alt+F1 which would be a console mode, teamviewer won't work there.15:33
k1l14damn thing froze on me15:34
k1l14O_O15:34
vfwDr_Willis: You are correct, teamviewer requires X15:34
gaz1310well15:34
gaz1310sudo teamviewer --daemon enable15:34
gaz1310shoud start the service15:35
vfwgaz1310: The instaler should have taken care of that and the deamon should already be running, (or that is what I suppose).15:35
gaz1310yeah prolly15:36
Dr_WillisI dont use teamviewer enoguh to even know ;)   sort of scary it uses wine, and  its running a service.. but that may be just the gui part that uses wine15:36
vfwgaz1310: (The error said "Application tried to create a window" and "Make sure that your X server is running".15:36
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joshu_basically i have this http://cl.ly/image/0s3j3D2k1T1k when a user logs in an RDP session is started. n other guy. The reason for team viewer is so i can shadow the user and help them..if this makes sense15:37
gaz1310@wfw sure but the daemon should not need a x session15:37
k1l14how would i use the nouveau drivers?15:38
vfwjoshu_: Looks as thought you've yet to login to your X-session.  Is that correct?15:38
vfwgaz1310: You are correct.15:39
xqeetry to reboot than try execute temviewer15:39
kovu2296is there a version of linux that is netbookfriendly15:40
vfwxqee: I think he just needs to run it from an X-session.15:40
gaz1310teamwiever must come prepacked with wine  yes?15:40
gaz1310if so -then yes - u need X15:40
Dr_Williskovu2296,  i have very few issues with ubuntu on my netbook15:40
vfwgaz1310: correct15:40
Dr_Williskovu2296,  i tend to use Lubuntu on low end machines.15:40
kovu2296ok i have the latest machine15:40
kovu2296so lubuntu uo say15:41
k1l14what you talkin about willis?15:41
gaz1310ram?15:41
k1l14:0|15:41
Dr_Willisits trivial to have the lubuntu desktop installed on ubuntu. and try them both15:41
xqeeiam running ubuntu server 13.04 with xfce fine :)15:41
xqeeonly 256 mb ram :D15:42
gaz1310why X on a server lol15:42
gaz1310just ssh into the box15:42
gaz1310anyway15:43
gaz1310k1ll415:43
gaz1310nvidia adventures15:43
k1l14;0)15:43
gaz1310updates :)15:43
vexzSo I've read that amd drivers were going to be compatible with linux then nvidia drivers.15:44
vexzis this true?15:44
gaz1310woot15:45
vfwgaz1310: I think he left out "more"15:46
gaz1310hehe15:46
k1l14i checked additional drivers and i have two active but now in use...15:47
k1l14*not15:47
daneshello, anyone knows if there is a web interface for a scanner? I am running ubuntu in a server and I want to add a usb scanner but I want to be able to scan via a web interface15:47
k1l14nvidia_current and nvidia riva/tnt/geforce15:47
k1l14this is the first time i have ever seen that riva/tnt one15:48
Dr_Willisdanes,  you could always use a minimal vnc session to run xsane in. but ive not noticed any remote-scanner stuff. never really looked15:49
xqeeikonia my tv card isnt working haha :)15:49
gaz1310oh15:49
xqeeidk why15:49
gaz1310w815:49
gaz1310nuke _current15:49
gaz1310lemme chk15:49
gaz1310now thats a DINO card :D15:49
FloodBot1gaz1310: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:49
vfwdanes: I use simplescan15:49
k1l14:P15:49
ikoniaxqee: can you expand upon "not working"15:50
danesvfw, Dr_Willis: it looks like SANE has a web interface http://sanewi.sourceforge.net/#preview15:50
xqeei tried to open it with vlc15:50
k1l14im thinking i need the riva/tnt/geforce one right?15:50
xqeeand i get error15:50
Dr_Willisdanes,  cant say ive ever tried that. ;) i scan rarely..15:50
ikoniaxqee: you need to give more detail than that15:50
danesDr_Willis:15:50
xqeeikonia wait15:50
ikoniaVLC isn't TV Tuner software is it ?15:51
danesDr_Willis: I wanted to buy the neat scanner but its insanely expensive and their software does not support linux15:51
xqeei use it in windows withut problems15:51
vfw!info simplescan | danes15:51
ubottudanes: Package simplescan does not exist in raring15:51
gaz1310k1ll415:51
gaz1310can u chk etc/X11/xorg.conf15:51
vfw!info simple-scan | danes15:51
ubottudanes: simple-scan (source: simple-scan): Simple Scanning Utility. In component main, is optional. Version 3.6.1-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 116 kB, installed size 548 kB15:51
Dr_Willisdanes,  I tend to buy what i find on sale. ;)   but i perhaps scan 10 pages a year.15:51
xqeeVLC is unable to open the MLR15:51
Dr_WillisVLC can access v4l devices i belive.  but its not ideal for the task15:52
kovu2296thank you everyone who has helped me today15:52
ikoniaxqee: I'd look up what MLR means (I don't know without research myself)15:52
gaz1310sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf15:52
kovu2296xqee and dr_willis15:52
gaz1310or gksudo15:52
xqeeikonia where is tv card mounted by default ?15:53
ikoniaxqee: it's not mounted15:53
xqeeikonia what path ? /dev/dvb/adapter015:54
xqee?15:54
xqeehow i can check that15:54
ikoniaxqee: depends on the card, but that can be a valid path, check it exists15:54
k1l14no xorg.config gile there15:54
k1l14*file15:54
xqeeikonia it does not exist15:54
joshu_xqee vfw ok don't know if I'm explained it well enough, but the purpose of my custom ubuntu build is to make it a thin client. When you login at the lightdm greeter you don't get a regular ubuntu desktop. All that happens is that an RDP session is started to a windows server. That's where you work. I was hoping to get team viewer to start when you boot the ubuntu OS and that I as an administrator would be able to connect to the OS via team15:55
joshu_ viewer and see the lightdm greeter and help the user.15:55
dDHow can I have bot alt+shift and alt+shift+tab as shortcuts? I had it before, in a previous version of gnome, but now I can't.15:55
Mortixhi, i got 2 graphic cards, 1 amd and the 2nd nvidia, im trying to watch 3 monitors, 2 connected to the amd and 1 to the nvidia15:57
Mortixbut it show me only 2 monitors(the amd)15:57
ikoniaxqee: ok, so you need to check the udev rules to see where it got created, or point your software at the correct device file15:57
ikoniaMortix: that's not going to work15:57
ikoniaMortix: while technically possible it will require multiple X servers setting up15:58
Mortixso how can i make 3 monitors?15:58
Mortixonly with 2 amd graphic cards?15:58
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vfwjoshu_:  You won't be able to run the teamviewer application until logged into the X-session.15:58
xqeeikonia what i need to type ?15:59
joshu_vfw hmm so only vnc allows that?15:59
vfwjoshu_: But, if you are doing all this within a LAN, (as opposed to going across the internet to the other machine), any other type of VNC application would be better.15:59
ikoniaxqee: what do you mean, what do you need to type ?16:00
vfwjoshu_: Is this all happening within your LAN?16:00
k1l_Mortix: the problem is how the linux xserver uses the drivers. you cant one 2 different drivers on one xserver.16:00
xqeeikonia to check that udev16:00
joshu_vfw of course but unfortunately this will happen across the internet at remote locations as the user will run this custom ubuntu on a laptop. That's why I'm trying to figure out a remote support solution16:00
vfwjoshu_: (If so, there are better/easier solutions.16:00
ikoniaxqee: I'd suggest reading the info on the wiki page you posted, see if it mentions the device file it creates16:00
joshu_vfw if it was on the LAN of course things would be easier.16:01
Mortixk1l_: so in case ill change the nvidia card to amd card, it should work?16:01
Mortixk1l_: since both of them will use the same driver no?16:01
k1l_Mortix: yep. but im out of experience with 3 monitors. so i cant guarantee that this is an easy one then16:01
k1l_Mortix: yep16:01
ikoniano,16:02
ikoniathe nvidia binary drivers only support sockets on the same card16:02
vfwjoshu_: So maybe use a combination of both.  Use another VNC server on the LAN and teamviewer across the internet. You can set the teamviewer application to start via Session Startup (~/.config/autostart),16:02
ikoniato use multiple cards with sockets you'd need to launch multiple x servers16:02
xqeeikonia can you help me install that or sth ?16:03
vfwjoshu_: ON the LAN, tightvncserver / tightvncviewer and / or x11vnc are some further options. (But there are others.)16:04
ikoniasth ?16:04
xqeesomething16:04
ikoniaxqee: I'd suggest reading the wiki page you posted and seeing if it mentions the device file it should create16:04
xqeehttp://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Asus_U3100_Mini_plus_DVB-T16:05
joshu_vfw sure but as you explained for team viewer to run in the background and accept a connection I need to install something like xstart or similar, right? I'm more concerned with over the internet solution then on LAN as the latter is not likely to happen16:05
GiGaHuRtZI know this error is badly formatted (it's just how it was spit out into the terminal): http://pastebin.com/ADiLrSTu I was running running glances for the past like 2 hours, and I just tabbed over to check myu disk I/O again, and it was crashed with that traceback. Any ideas what would cause this?16:05
gaz1310OT: compile on 3.11 makes my cpu cook eggs16:05
k1l14gaz1310: i tried that and there is no xorg.config file... ;0(16:05
xqeeI do not see anything16:06
ikoniaGiGaHuRtZ: the guys in #python maybe able to help with the specifics of that trace back, as you'd have to understand the functions to a reasonable level to debug that16:07
GiGaHuRtZOk, thank you.16:07
vfwjoshu_: No, you need a startup script in ~/.config/autostart/16:08
k1l14i also have a framebuffer driver for geforce in the list.16:08
k1l14must be the kernel im running now, i didn't see any of this before16:08
vfwjoshu_: While it is true that the deamon runs in the background, the teamviewer application's GUI must be run as well.16:09
gaz1310well its not the TM gui its WIne that needs the X16:10
gaz1310as its bundled16:10
gaz1310but yes :)16:10
cadouhello16:11
k1l14im so gonna busta tit.... :D16:11
gaz1310Anyone tried Windows 8.1 fonts in ubuntu? worth the hassle?16:12
xqeeikonia do i need to install drivers ?16:13
ikoniaxqee: what kernel is currently running16:14
xqee3.8.0-19-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 17 18:19:42 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux16:14
Dr_Willisgaz1310,  if you need them.. but ive no idea why you would 'need' them ;)16:14
ThePendulumI threw in a 2nd GPU with a 3rd monitor, but all the 3rd monitor shows is the Ubuntu loading screen16:14
ThePendulumAny ideas?16:14
k1l14how do i get it to use the driver?16:14
ikoniaxqee: ok, so it is in 3.7 - so it should be already in 3.816:14
xqeeikonia and how i can use card now ?16:15
gaz1310willis heh..well im bored and will try :D16:15
Dr_Willisgaz1310,  i get the ubuntu fonts and put them on my windows machines. ;)16:15
xqeeikonia vlc and tvheadend wont fint it16:15
ikoniaxqee: what device file is vlc/tvheadend pointing at ?16:16
xqeetvheadend didnt found it16:16
xqeevlc same as ths16:16
gaz1310uuh16:16
gaz1310usr/share/fonts will make em avail to the whole systemm right16:16
xqeeikonia do you want to check on tha team viewer ?16:17
Dr_Willis!fonts16:19
ubottuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "ttf-mscorefonts-installer" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". For the official ubuntu font, see: http://font.ubuntu.com/16:19
falkenMazeanyone know how to untangle this one?  http://bpaste.net/show/DxVE8YTnmAgAyzVQ54MV/16:20
falkenMazeit chokes on anything pcap.16:20
vfwfalkenMaze: Did you try "apt-get -f install"?16:21
gaz1310vfw yeah as the pic sais16:21
gaz1310try synaptic16:21
Dr_WillisfalkenMaze,  try a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     as a wild shot?16:21
falkenMazevfw yes16:21
falkenMazeDr_Willis i am dist-upgrade'ed16:22
ranticHi everyone, I just installed Ubuntu and I'm a bit lost with the interface. How do I add my own applications to the launcher on the left hand side?16:22
vfwfalkenMaze: What OS is it?16:22
Dr_WillisfalkenMaze,  the version # in the error seems odd..16:22
gaz1310drag n drop16:22
falkenMazesecurity-onion on ubuntu16:22
gaz1310-rantic16:22
ranticgaz1310, Doesn't seem to work16:22
k1l_rantic: easiest method is to start the program an then make a rightclick on it and choose "keep in launcher"16:23
zipyis it possible to run tmx after i launched sth in ssh?16:23
Dr_Willisrubygem-fpm : Depends: rubygem-json (>= 0) but it is not installable16:23
ranticgaz1310, Hm it seemed to work with another program .. but not the shortcut to a java application I downloaded.16:23
falkenMazewhoops, I guess dist-upgrade now fails with same error.16:23
rantick1l_, Thanks I'll try that16:23
vfwfalkenMaze: Version number are you on?  Ubutnu 10.04?16:23
gaz1310java apps behaves like "webapps"?16:24
Dr_Williszipy,  you can set tmux where it auto starts up when you login.  you can run it at any time if you wanted. but you dont move apps ran befor that time INTo tmux16:24
ikoniaxqee: sorry, I'm asking what it's looking for - not if it found it or not16:25
gaz1310if so - the make a shortcut to it and place on launcher16:25
vfwfalkenMaze: What is pcapcat?16:25
zipyDr_Willis, ok to late then :D16:25
falkenMazeDr_Willis 12.04.2 LTS16:25
falkenMazepcap16:25
astr0nautHello guys, I have a question.16:25
astr0nautwhat does "received a ctcp version from username" mean?16:25
Dr_Willisastr0naut,  they versioned you..   your client replied some info back16:26
xqeewhat is with this firmware ?16:26
astr0nautDr_Willis, I run my distro as root, and I use XChat IRC, can they execute some commands on my machine thru ctcp?16:26
astr0nautor something? is ctcp dangerous?16:26
vfwfalkenMaze: Is the date correct?16:26
falkenMazevfw what do you mean?16:27
vfwdate16:27
falkenMazedate of what?16:27
k1l_!rootirc | astr0naut16:27
ubottuastr0naut: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.16:27
gaz1310_D16:27
theadminastr0naut: Running as root is always a bad idea, but no, CTCP doesn't allow remote command execution. It's still dangerous to run as root though.16:27
gaz1310root is fun16:27
ikoniagaz1310: grow up - we are trying to help people here16:27
vfwfalkenMaze: In the terminal, type: date  #Hit enter, see what it says, (see if it is correct).16:28
k1l_astr0naut: but now they know your client and version and could lookup some security issue.16:28
astr0nauttheadmin, Why is running as root on Ubuntu is bad?16:28
falkenMazevfw july 21 201316:28
astr0nautHow can I know their version and client?16:28
k1l_astr0naut: if the find a security whole they have root rights16:28
astr0nautis there a command for it?16:28
theadminastr0naut: Because. Giving apps rights they don't even need is always a bad idea.16:28
Dr_Willisdoing anything as root when not absoutly needed is bad..16:28
astr0nautHow can I request client info from other users?16:28
astr0nautfrom ctcp?16:28
astr0nautwhat's the specific command for this?16:29
theadminastr0naut: /version nickname, I think.16:29
Dr_Willisastr0naut,  see the docs for your irc client perhaps16:29
k1l_astr0naut: think of: you always run with a loaded and unlocked gun. that is not necessary . just give the apps the rights they need at least16:29
theadminastr0naut: sudo exists for a reason16:29
astr0nauttheadmin, how can I request ctcp version and client from users in IRC?16:29
astr0nautjust like they CTCP'ed me?16:29
theadminastr0naut: Just said, /version nickname16:30
theadminastr0naut: Well, obviously, "nickname" is their nickname16:30
vfwfalkenMaze: udo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade16:30
falkenMazeDr_Willis actually, I don't know what the 'pcapcat' is. but every program wants it as a dependancy.16:30
xqeesa16:30
xqeesa16:30
xqeesa16:30
FloodBot1xqee: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:30
k1l_astr0naut: but again, running everything as root is not supported in here16:30
vfwfalkenMaze: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade16:30
xqeeikonia http://paste.ubuntu.com/5897722/16:30
bhalashSeeing the phrase "running everything as root" just made me feel a little sick inside.16:31
ikoniaxqee: I'm sorry, I'm not being clear,16:31
gaz1310@vfw sudo ntpdate -q time-a.nist.gov16:31
gaz1310first16:31
rypervencheastr0naut: There is no reason that you should be running a GUI as root and I doubt anyone will help you with anything if you continue to do so.16:31
ikoniaxqee: your software will look for a device node, eg: /dev/video/video1, or something like that, what device is it looking for16:31
xqeeikonia see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5897726/16:31
ikoniaxqee: that's a good spot16:32
ikoniaxqee: 16.932948] usb 1-1: dvb_usb_v2: Did not find the firmware file 'dvb-usb-af9035-02.fw'. Please see linux/Documentation/dvb/ for more details on firmware-problems. Status -216:32
ikonia[   16.933622] usb 1-1: dvb_usb_v2: 'Asus U3100Mini Plus' error while loading driver (-2)16:32
ikonia[   16.934004] usb 1-1: dvb_usb_v2: 'Asus U3100Mini Plus' successfully deinitialized and disconnected16:32
ikoniaxqee: did not find firmware, that's the key16:32
falkenMazevfw I had already run that before error free, went to update the actual distro and that's when the pcapcat error popped up. upgrade now borks at the same place16:33
xqeeikonia is this firmware  http://palosaari.fi/linux/v4l-dvb/firmware/af9035/dvb-usb-af9035-02.fw_f71efe295151ba76cac2280680b69f3f_11.5.9.0_5.17.9.1 ?16:33
ikoniaxqee: I do'nt know16:33
ikoniaxqee: it looks possible16:33
xqeeikonia it is, but where i do need tzo put it16:34
theadminEh, maybe it's best to check the repositories for that first?16:34
ikoniaxqee: depends where the kernel expects it, is there anything in /lib/firmware ?16:34
arc__some one can plz answer this question http://askubuntu.com/questions/321990/packages-gone-in-upgrade16:34
xqeeyap there are some firmwares16:34
vfwfalkenMaze: Look at /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log and see if there is any clues there.16:34
falkenMazevfw ok, good idea!16:35
xqeeikonia i put firmware there and restarted16:36
vfwfalkenMaze: Other than that, I dono, but you may have some ppa that is causing problems..16:36
xqeeill see than16:36
Hilikusi'm trying to kill X but when i do sudo service gdm stop i get16:38
Hilikusstop: Unknown instance:16:39
Hilikusany idea how to stop x?16:39
falkenMazevfw I am not familiar with ppa  :(16:39
xqeeikonia http://paste.ubuntu.com/5897746/16:39
k1lHilikus: its lightdm now on ubuntu16:39
Hilikusthank you k1l16:39
xqeeikonia i need to borrow 2.0 usb pci card and try than :)16:39
ikoniaxqee: certainly looks like it16:39
bhalashhilikus: service lightdm stop16:40
xqeeikonia most important is that firmware is working now16:40
gaz1310later guys16:40
xqeeikonia ill be back soon, iam going to borrow it16:40
EstrobedaHello again, i have had this problem everytime i use linux at all, my laptop batery gets low too fast, i cant find the problem, the drivers are up to date, the computer is Asus k53sm. I think the problem is the performance, in windows i can choose, low power high power etc, i cant do that in ubuntu so i think it use max performance, is it possible to fix this problem? the laptop gets criticaly low around 30-60 min and it is starting 16:44
Out`Of`ControlHi, any plans to bring back  forums?16:46
k1lOut`Of`Control: #ubuntuforums is the teamchannel16:46
Out`Of`Controlk1l:  thanks16:46
shaun1990when did the forums get hacked16:50
k1l#ubuntuforums is the teamchannel16:51
PenyulapI tear my hair out, i can't find on google, I unpack an archive into the current directory, but rather than unpack them into the current directory, it unpack everything into a subdirectory with the name of the archive. I can't move that directory contents into the current one, i renamed it and try again, but always the command line says like "mv: `www/w' and `www/w' are the same file"16:52
Penyulaphow to copy files from a subdirectory into the current directory ?16:52
falkenMazehow do you force uninstall a package? bpaste.net/show/x4Gyk5mFfiDDj2LYOMj516:52
bhalashEstrobeda: Your machine is using the Nvidia video card under Linux, and the Linux drivers are awful. They run the card at full speed regardless of anything you are actually doing.16:54
bhalashEstrobeda: Check out http://bumblebee-project.org/16:54
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AmpelbeinfalkenMaze: have a look at the --force-help option of dpkg. But usually that shouldn't be needed. What is your exact problem? (That paste is not valid)16:55
Estrobedaok thank you for your reply =D i will check it out16:55
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GAOFLAwhat vulnerability they used to hack into ubuntuforums ?16:56
bhalashEstrobeda: np sir. It is possible to switch to the integrated Intel card, which will go along way to preserving your battery life, and to just use the Nvidia card on a per-application basis.16:56
PenyulapI worked it out16:56
k1l1451ni looked the drivers in synaptic and i see the ones that i need but it wont install em...16:56
k1lGAOFLA:  #ubuntuforums is the teamchannel16:56
GAOFLAk1l, thanks16:56
Estrobedaok i will do that16:56
falkenMazeAmpelbein yeah, what the heck is --force-<thing>,<thing> supposted to mean? I tried the package name and that borked.16:57
k1l1451ncould not mark all packages for installation or upgrade16:58
k1l1451nthe following packages have unresolvable dependencies. make sure that all required repositories are added and enabled in the preferences.17:01
k1l1451n?17:02
AmpelbeinfalkenMaze: Without an error message it's hard to help you. Use paste.ubuntu.com for longer texts.17:02
lotuspsychjecan i print in another color in hplip if the black cartridge is empty?17:02
columbNautilus keep crashing (closing&black screening my wallpaper until next nautlius launch) when I try to open Dropbox folder. What's wrong with it? 13.10.17:05
bhalashcolumb: Is your wallpaper in your Dropbox folder?17:07
columbbhalash, nope.17:07
bhalashcolumb: I had a similar problem two years ago, and it turned out to be a permissions problem. :/17:08
ThePendulumMeh17:08
columbhttp://pastebin.com/HfJEsQGL17:09
ThePendulumI installed video drivers for a 2nd GPU, and now Ubuntu won´t become visible anymore17:09
ThePendulumAny way to remove all Nvidia drivers?17:09
arc__IF YOU ARE good at ubuntu problens please help me at #ubuntu-uk plz17:11
ThePendulum´Good´ is rather subjective17:12
arc__ok then an expert17:12
arc__just help please #ubuntu-uk17:12
bhalashcolumb: apt-get purge nautilus-dropbox17:13
auronandacearc__: what's wrong with getting help here?17:13
bhalashcolumb: Then apt-get install -f17:13
bhalashauronandace: Maybe we aren't British enough? :p17:14
sharifhttp://ubuntuforums.org not open17:14
bhalashsharif: We know.17:15
dDHow can I have bot alt+shift and alt+shift+tab as shortcuts? I had it before, in a previous version of gnome, but now I can't.17:16
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bhalashdD: gconf-editor is still in Gnome, right?17:17
dDbhalash, it is, but i can't configure one with alt + shift and the other with alt+shift + tab, they interfere :/17:18
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dDbhalash, (it's actually dconf editor, but yes)17:19
bhalashdD: Gnome is annoying to configure. You might hit Google for information on where keybinds like alt+tab are stored.17:20
mooperdhow do I install jdk 1.6?17:21
mooperdis this jdk 6 or 7?17:21
mooperdI am jolly confused17:21
bhalashmooperd: apt-get install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-jdk17:21
squaregoldfishmooperd jdk 1.6 == jdk 617:21
bhalashmooperd: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-ubuntu-linux-install-configure-jdk-jre/17:22
mooperdniice17:22
theadminbhalash: Sun's java isn't in the repos for, like, more than a year now?17:22
theadminmooperd: Use OpenJDK or download from java.com17:22
dDbhalash, so, I did find the keybinds.  But if alt + shift is used to change keyboard layout, then I can't use alt + shift + tab for reverse alt tab.  If it's not, then I can use it (all through dconf)17:22
bhalashtheadmin: Shows how much I use Java. :D Don't they have a self-extracting file on the site?17:23
mooperdis openjdk completely compatable?17:23
rypervenchemooperd: I've never had any problems with it.17:23
hocin20how to creat db for metasploit in ubuntu17:24
bhalashdD: I found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/122748/enabling-native-shortcuts-on-gnome-317:24
mooperdwhere do I find openjdk-6-jdk. I can only see openjdk-7-jdk17:24
theadminmooperd: openjdk-6-jdk is in Universe... Should be just there17:25
theadminmooperd: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk17:25
columbbhalash, nautilus-dropbox is not not installed. :(17:26
mooperdtheadmin: thanks man17:26
columbError when I try to start nautilus from terminal: http://pastebin.com/HX7Pf4FC17:26
bhalashcolumb: Try apt-get install -f17:26
columbTried.17:26
mooperdtheadmin: how about the environment?17:27
mooperdJAVAHOME and stuff17:27
theadminmooperd: Eh. Shouldn't have to configure that stuff manually if you use the repos17:28
mooperdtheadmin: hmm, it hasnt :(17:29
theadminmooperd: Environment changes usually require to log out and back in17:29
columbOh well, fixed it by nautilus -q17:29
theadminmooperd: Did you do that?17:29
mooperdtheadmin: yes17:29
bhalashcolumb: Hah. Right as I'm reading a thread with that as a solution.17:29
dDbhalash, Thanks.  That won't work though, because both of them belong to dconfeditor.  See, the problem is that they clash.17:29
columbNope, not fixed. At least I was able to open folder with it.17:29
mooperdtheadmin: but as root17:29
mooperdtheadmin: but I guess that shouldnt make a differance17:30
dDbhalash, basically, if I disable one, the other one works.  It used to work before but not anymore.17:30
joshu_so I found this that shows how to start a vnc server at the lightdm greeter http://roger.steneteg.org/245/start-vnc-together-with-lightdm/17:32
mijkhey, how do I mount a img file I created with bximage that has no file system?17:32
bhalashdD: Gotcha. I'm starting to understand your problem a bit better. You used to have a setup where each keybind had more than one action?17:32
joshu_this would allow me to connect with a vnc client and see the lightdm login window, right?17:32
bhalashmijk: mount -o loop /path/to/image /mnt/whatever ?17:32
mijkbhalash, it wouldn't error out due to lack of fs specified?17:33
bhalashmijk: Try and report the error17:34
BenjaminRHHey people. My laptop screen's black on boot until I put it to sleep and then wake it up again. Any idea why that might be, and how I can fix that?17:34
mijkmount: you must specify the file system type17:35
dDbhalash, so basically, Alt+Shift was used to change keyboard language.  But, (if I remember correctly), alt+shift would only change it "on key up".  Then, alt+shift+tab would do reverse alt tab (ie, change windows counterclockwise).  Now, if I have alt+shift enabled to change the keyboard shortcut, I can't use alt+shift+tab to do reverse alt tab, it's like the shift is ignored (probably because the keyboard layout change takes precedence).17:37
Linux_xubuntu_neHi, can someone help me please17:37
ianorlin!ask17:38
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience17:38
bhalashmijk: I can't find any good documentation on the file format. Try -t iso966017:39
bhalashdD: So alt + shift + up arrow was "change keyboard"?17:40
Linux_xubuntu_neok, how do I get internet explorer 8 on xubuntu17:40
bhalashLinux_xubuntu_ne: VM?17:40
dnano91hi, i'm planning to setup a dualboot with ubuntu and win8 on a macbook pro. only problem is, i want to run ubuntu in efi mode and windows in mbr (as it doesn't support efi 1.1). i know that osx uses some kind of protected/hybrid mbr to run windows, but i don't know how to create this kind of mbr on a gpt formatted drive with ubuntu (without osx). can anyone help me with this issue?17:41
Linux_xubuntu_nebhalash how is that going to help?17:41
k1l!wine | Linux_xubuntu_ne17:41
ubottuLinux_xubuntu_ne: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu17:41
dDbhalash, alt+shift was change keyboard (without the up arrow)17:42
BenjaminRHLinux_xubuntu_ne: why do you want ie8 on ubuntu?17:42
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BenjaminRHLinux_xubuntu_ne: if it's for website testing, there are some web apps you can use that will save you the trouble17:42
mijk"mount -t none" or "mount -t raw" don't work17:42
bhalashLinux_xubuntu_ne: A Windows VM can run IE8. Also, Wine support seems awful.17:42
Linux_xubuntu_neWine couldn't download ie8 for some reason, and I have no disc to do a VM17:43
Linux_xubuntu_nebhalash ^^17:43
bhalashLinux_xubuntu_ne: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=1718717:43
bhalashdD: I think you might want to consider alternative shortcuts, if you can't change it in dconf-editor. :/17:44
Linux_xubuntu_nebhalash will have a look17:44
bhalashLinux_xubuntu_ne: I mean, if you really, really need IE8, then a VM is probably the path you're going to have to go down.17:45
Linux_xubuntu_neSO I cannot get it then :/17:45
Linux_xubuntu_neok cheers17:45
BenjaminRHI'm experiencing a very annoying problem. My laptop screen is black on boot until I put it to sleep and then wake it up again. Any idea why that might be, and how I can fix that? This is a completely fresh install of Ubuntu 13.04. The only thing I've done is apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, and reboot17:45
icerootLinux_xubuntu_ne: use playonlinux to install ie17:46
icerootLinux_xubuntu_ne: but not everything will work (mono, active x and other strange ms stuff)17:46
BenjaminRHIncidentally, to see the installation screen, I had to run install with nomodeset17:46
Linux_xubuntu_neiceroot link please17:46
BenjaminRHbut once I've put it to sleep and then woken it up again, everything works perfectly17:47
icerootLinux_xubuntu_ne: sudo apt-get install playonlinux17:47
dDbhalash, :( I wonder what changed, it worked before. Do you think that there is a way to set one of them to be "on key up"?17:47
icerootLinux_xubuntu_ne: then sart it and choose ie for installation17:47
Linux_xubuntu_necheers17:47
icerootLinux_xubuntu_ne: winetricks should also be able to install ie8. for wine-support see #winehq17:47
dDbhalash, or set priorities?17:47
bhalashdD: Explicitly set the action to alt+shift+up arrow?17:47
Linux_xubuntu_neiceroot i tried winetricks and it failed to download it for some unknown reason17:48
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icerootLinux_xubuntu_ne: #winehq for wine-issues17:49
dDbhalash, sorry, by "on key up" I mean when someone let's go of a key.17:50
taek no17:51
bhalashdD: AFAIK no.17:53
zipydoes someone know what is the problem on this: 192.168.0.100(rw,async,no_subtree_check,fsid=0)   . /pathtodir does not support NFS export <-- when i start nfs server17:55
PAiDkernelPANiCthe ubuntu forums are down17:56
PAiDkernelPANiComg17:56
zipyye17:56
zipyi wanted to google that too :P17:56
drjeatsintense hackage17:56
whoeverzipy: are you mounting an smb share17:56
PAiDkernelPANiCdefacement: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Website_defacement17:56
zipyno samba running17:56
PAiDkernelPANiCim curious how site looked while it was hacked17:57
whoeverzipy: so where is this directory you are tring to mount, on a different box ?17:57
zipyi think its sth about the fsid=017:58
k1lPAiDkernelPANiC: #ubuntuforums17:58
dDbhalash, thanks :/17:58
joshu_is x11vnc with ssh and reverse vnc a good alternative to teamviwerer?17:58
whoeverzipy: what17:58
PAiDkernelPANiCok, thanks17:58
zipyno its local, that is in my exports config17:58
whoeverzipy: ah, then why are you using an ip if it is local17:59
zipycuz thats the clients17:59
zipythat are allowed to connect17:59
recursion_anybody here every use LightTable IDE?17:59
whoeverzipy: why don't you try to just export it with out  the allow18:00
whoeverie export=somepath18:00
whoeverzipy: and curious whey are you tring to export it , what are you tring to achieve18:01
Estrobedahello, now i have installed bumblebee on my computer, is the batterysaveing automaticly on and the optirun command makes the nvidia card work or is the optirun command for energy saveing? Or is this totaly wrong place to ask?18:01
zipyi just want to share that folder via nfs18:01
whoeverzipy: why not samba , it seems like your are doing a tone more work then you need18:02
zipythis is my /etc/exports: /home/pi/downloads/complete      192.168.0.100(rw,async,no_subtree_check,fsid=0)18:02
whoeverto share a file18:02
zipyand when i start the nfs server that error occurs18:02
whoeverzipy: so why do you have nosubtree18:03
jasuntodoes 13.04 finally support vnc before login?18:03
whoeverjasunto: i don't think so18:03
zipycuz when i dont insert that i will get a message that "no_subtree" istn chosen18:03
whoeverzipy: why do you have to share nfs, why not cfs\18:04
jasuntowhoever: thats horrible18:04
leotempneed assistance installing atheros wifi driver - noob level18:04
chipotlehi, i'm trying to transfer files from my ubuntu machine to my freenas machine, over ethernet… how do i locate the freenas box, after i've loaded and authenticated via the gui. i want to do it in the CLI for speed and reliability...18:04
zipyhmm18:05
irgendwer4711 hi, how to create a bzip2 compressed initrd with make-kpkg?18:05
zipyi dont know cfs what is it18:05
chipotlecan i do it with cp, or do i have to do scp?18:06
chipotleplease advise...18:06
jasuntohow hard is it to run vnc as a startup service so people can vnc in and log in? why do i have to do backflips and isntall x11vnc?18:06
jasuntogetting rigging with auto login then screensaver lock18:07
whoeverzipy: its samba it allows you to share files/printers, without the neeed to export like you are doing18:07
joshu_jasunto i'm trying to figure out a remote support solution myselg18:07
joshu_myself18:07
gordonjcpjasunto: so you want it to log in automatically and have x11vnc running at startup?18:07
rohffhi guest14918:08
zipyhmm i thought its faster with nfs18:08
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FloodBot1GothPaw: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:08
jasuntothere are guides out there that have x11vnx start before login, i also had an issue if running headless and made a vga loop back adapter18:08
whoeverjasunto: what are you tring to remote support18:08
jasuntomaybe install the ubuntu version of rdp server18:08
rohffhi guest14918:08
jasuntoi have a ubuntu machine at home, i like to ssh tunnel then vnc over it18:08
gordonjcpjasunto: what are you trying to do?18:08
whoeverjasunto: so you just want to remote install an OS18:09
whoever?18:09
jasuntoif i do an update and reboot or if it does for power loss, you cant stock because login screen18:09
jasuntohave to login then vnc starts18:09
jasuntoremote into my ubuntu install from outside of home18:09
whoeverjasunto: ssh18:09
joshu_i want to be able to access an ubuntu install at the lightdm greeter as shown here http://cl.ly/image/0s3j3D2k1T1k. before a user logins in18:09
gordonjcpjasunto: okay, just use ssh18:09
jasuntoacts as a server also, may need to remote in and start or manage downloads18:09
ThePendulumGreetings18:10
jasuntoi do use ssh18:10
jasuntoi like to tunnel vnc sometimes18:10
gordonjcpvnc on a server? o_O18:10
jasuntoits not a Server per say18:10
ThePendulumI installed Nvidia drivers and now I can no longer boot into Ubuntu. It will simply go to black, without the possibility to get into a tty. Is there any way to remove these drivers from a live CD?\18:10
jasuntoi do some server type stuff with it18:10
gordonjcpjasunto: "per se"18:10
bitnumushi, all my icons descriptions are showing white squares instead of text18:10
bitnumusand ideas?18:10
gordonjcpjasunto: not "per say"18:10
gordonjcpjasunto: okay, so are you trying to run desktop apps over VNC too?18:11
whoeverbitnumus: that is probably because they are not standard characheres18:11
jasuntoyes, some i have to18:11
bitnumuswhoever, its all of them18:11
gordonjcpjasunto: depending on how fast your network connection is, that might be pretty slow18:11
jasuntoi just like multiple access methods18:11
find-helphi, im trying to use the "find" command to say find 1expr OR 2expr exec something. The problem is that if the 1 expr is true then the 2nd expression isnt executed.18:11
jasuntono, i have great internet18:11
rypervenchegordonjcp: I corrected someone on that the other day too, lol.18:11
whoeverbitnumus: is it english that should be showing up18:11
gordonjcprypervenche: it's so annoying18:11
jasuntoi do it already, just have to never log out or reboot or lose power longer than my ups can handle18:11
jasuntossh tunnel can do compression18:11
find-helpas stated in the man pages18:11
bitnumusit may have been since i installed the package - komodo-edit-globalmenu18:12
rypervenchegordonjcp: *high five* for being grammar Nazis!18:12
bitnumuswhoever, yes, i am talking about every single application18:12
ThePendulumAnyone? :(18:12
jasunto100 down and 10 up internet, runs fine18:12
bitnumusin the unity menu18:12
gordonjcprypervenche: don't much like the term "grammar nazi" but you're right ;-)18:12
find-helpso anyone know how i can say say if 1 expr is true still continue to second expr regardless18:12
whoeverbitnumus: did this just start18:12
bitnumuswhoever, yes18:12
jasuntovery easy with windows and rdp, but id rather not run that crap18:13
jasuntoused a virtual machine of windows for crap like that before18:13
find-helpfind . -type f -iname expr1 -o expr2 -exec echo '{}' \;18:13
whoeverBTCOxygen: did you apply any updates before this started18:13
ThePendulumI guess I should just reinstall Ubuntu :18:13
gordonjcprypervenche: I'm very very dyslexic and so I'm really picky about language18:13
gordonjcpThePendulum: if you've been screwing around with it for more than half an hour, you would have been quicker reinstalling18:13
bitnumuswhoever, not 100% sure, it may have been after i installed 'komodo-edit-globalmenu' which i think toys with his somehow18:13
ThePendulumgordonjcp: Eh, not really.18:14
gordonjcpjasunto: I don't know what windows and rdp is18:14
ThePendulumgordonjcp: The installation doesn't cover the hours of configuration18:14
rypervenchegordonjcp: I'm worse than you though. I stare at that blank space at the end of your sentence wondering where the period is... :X18:14
gordonjcpThePendulum: what takes hours to configure?18:14
whoeverbitnumus: look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale18:14
gordonjcprypervenche: :-p18:14
ThePendulumgordonjcp: All applications as well as Ubuntu itself18:14
ThePendulumI'd much rather save it18:15
gordonjcpThePendulum: "Ubuntu itself" needs pretty much no configuration18:15
jasuntoremtoe desktop, works all the time regardless of whether a user is logged in, same if you install vnc on windows, runs as service and can always vnc in. i would rather not run windows, blah.18:15
columbhttp://i.imgur.com/SlJ1WTm.jpg Hm...18:15
jasuntoremote18:15
gordonjcpThePendulum: you might need to bung a wifi key in or something18:15
vale_I'm trying to install XAMPP but get this error when running the installer "./xampp-linux-x64-1.8.2-0-installer.run: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string18:15
ThePendulumgordonjcp: Customization, if you like18:16
bitnumuswhoever, everything is as it should be there18:16
vale_Can anyone help please?18:16
whoeverbitnumus: mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm18:16
jasuntovale: missing a quote18:16
gordonjcp!xampp18:16
ubottuWe do not support XAMPP installs here. Please use the LAMP stack that is in our repositories; see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP for more information.18:16
whoeverbitnumus: does this only do this in x or does terminal look the same way18:16
vale_jasunto: I know, I hit enter by accident18:16
gordonjcp!xampp > vale_18:16
ThePendulumI assume there is no way to completely remove the Nvidia drivers from a live CD?18:16
ubottuvale_, please see my private message18:16
ShaneOgood afternoon everyone is there anyone who I could ask a question about zenity or is there a channel dedicated to it?18:17
ShaneOI am reading the docs but it is vague about what I am trying to do18:17
jasuntocheck all quotes in the .run and make sure thye are closes on the ends18:17
bitnumuswhoever sec.18:17
wilee-nileeShaneO, State you problems for help.18:17
jasuntoim out of here, going to set ubuntu to auto login and then immediately lock to screensaver.18:17
bitnumuswhoever, http://imgur.com/vjqbx0T18:18
R0SSIdoes anyone know the instruction of Workman installation: https://github.com/deekayen/workman + http://www.workmanlayout.com/blog/?18:18
ShaneOwilee-nilee I am using the method shown here to create a list https://help.gnome.org/users/zenity/stable/list.html.en .I want the items in the list when selected to perform an action like executing a function. I tried using | to execute the function but nothing happens ex. 393823 backup data | function18:20
wilee-nileeShaneO, I meant to the channel not me, thats how it works. ;)18:20
ShaneO* backup data | backup which is a defined function in the script18:20
BenjaminRHI'm having quite a few issues with my new Toshiba laptop on a fresh install of 13.04. I think it might be caused by the Toshiba ACPI not loading or something. Any ideas?18:20
ShaneOoh :) I was hoping maybe you knew :)18:21
whoeverbitnumus: does it look like that on the deskop or only in dash18:21
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wilee-nileeShaneO, Oh you are an optimist. ;)18:21
ShaneOlol yeah you could say that18:21
rohffhi guest11618:22
bitnumuswhoever, i dont use 'desktop'18:22
bitnumusi have no icons there18:22
whoeverbitnumus: are you using gnome ?18:23
bitnumus13.04, no18:23
wilee-nileeR0SSI, If you are registered with freenode you might also ask in ##linux18:23
crazydiamondHi. Can anyone suggest way to share WiFi from Ubuntu  to Android? I'm trying to establish AdHoc access point (via NetworkManager), but it seems to be invisible to Android18:24
jamesw00t, i did it!!!!18:24
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whoeverbitnumus: have you tried apt-get dist-update18:25
k1l14it still lists the shitty resolutions, but i can xrandr and get a better one. im at 1440x900 now18:25
k1l14YAY!!!18:25
neumjerenhello!18:25
whoeverneumjeren: heellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllooooooooooooooooooooooo18:25
falkenMazeI am really stuck here. I cannot get aroung libpcapcat (no clue what it is, but can't get around it)  http://bpaste.net/show/DxVE8YTnmAgAyzVQ54MV/18:25
k1l14is it dangerious to be on an old kernel?18:26
neumjerenIn order to disable touchpad while typing I added "syndaemon -i 2 &" line in rc.local but it doesn't work. It works fine when I type in terminal (works after closing to), but not in the script. Anyone knows why?18:26
gordonjcpk1l14: maybe, maybe not18:26
falkenMazek1l14 yup!18:26
k1l14;0|18:26
whoeverfalkenMaze: well what are you tring to do18:27
falkenMazek1l14 they called it EOL because it's dead.18:27
gordonjcpk1l14: it depends what you're doing and how you're doing it18:27
drjeatsI'm trying to run the liveCD, and it gets to the point where the splash screen clears and you get some lines of text starting with * Starting LightDM Display Manager    [ OK ]18:27
drjeatshowever it gets stuck after: * Stopping enable remaining boot-time encrypted block devices   [ OK ]18:27
falkenMazek1l14 expect the same performance out of it as any other corpse.18:27
icerootk1l14: what do you mean with old kernel? 3.2 instead of 3.11? or 3.2 and not the latest security updates for 3.2? (3.2 is just an example)18:27
joshu_how do i get l2tp/ipsec to work as a client from network manager?18:27
drjeatsi can futz around in a grub command line. but anyone have any hints as to where I could start looking to find where the problem is?18:28
k1l14im not expecting alot here, i know its an old card...18:28
whoeverdrjeats: well then, try to install it, or try another live disk18:28
zimboi'm trying to download torrents from this site http://www.textbooknova.com18:28
k1l14i think it was 3.418:28
zimbowhen i click on a link18:28
zimbothe torrent client doesn't open18:28
zimboand it says to choose an application18:28
icerootk1l14: there is no ubuntu release with 3.418:28
k1l14the newest one was 3.5....18:28
zimbobut i cannot find transmission in that menu18:28
falkenMazek1l14 which kernel?18:29
falkenMazek1l14 which release I mean?18:29
drjeatswhoever: almighty. I was worried that an install wouldn't work since the liveCD wouldn't work, but...why not.18:29
whoeverzimbo: /me will assume you doing legal activity18:29
whoeverzimbo: what client18:29
k1l14i think it was 3.4 i found the steps to get it on askubuntu18:29
zimbowhoever transmission18:29
drjeatsalrighty*18:30
whoeverdrjeats: live cd, everything his rom, to ram, to screen ,  it works bettr off an hd18:30
find-helpfind . -type f -iname expr1 -o expr2 -exec echo '{}' \; something like this but for both expr1 + 218:30
find-helpfind . -type f -iname expr1 -o expr2 -exec echo '{}' \; something like this but for both expr1 + 218:30
k1l14brb, gonna find the page real quick18:30
find-helpfind . -type f -iname expr1 -o expr2 -exec echo '{}' \; something like this but for both expr1 + 218:30
FloodBot1find-help: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:30
icerootk1l14: please dont update the kernel like that, use the kernel from the repos and install the security updates or use a backported kernel but dont download deb packages from somewhere else or use ppas for kernels. there is normally no reason to install a newer kernel18:31
whoeverzimbo: then you need to navigate to transmission , when you say open with this application18:31
falkenMazek1l14 lsb_release -a18:31
k1l14http://askubuntu.com/questions/140254/how-to-install-linux-3-418:31
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whoeverzimbo: and it should work, i just don't like transmission18:31
icerootk1l14: why you need 3.4?18:32
k1l14No LSB modules are available.18:32
k1l14Distributor ID:Ubuntu18:32
k1l14Description:Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS18:32
k1l14Release:12.0418:32
k1l14Codename:precise18:32
FloodBot1k1l14: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:32
k1l14oops18:32
zimbowhoever /usr/share/transmission and i think it will work now thanks what is a better alternative18:32
icerootk1l14: in the ubuntu-repos there is 3.2, 3.5 and 3.8 for ubuntu 12.04 so why using something strange from askubuntu with kernel 3.4?18:32
falkenMazek1l14 use bpaste.net or sumptin. don't flood the list!18:32
neumjerenHello! In order to disable touchpad while typing I added "syndaemon -i 2 &" line in rc.local but it doesn't work. It works fine when I type in terminal (works after closing to), but not in the script. Anyone knows why?18:32
falkenMazek1l14 you are definately not EOL18:33
k1l14O_O18:33
icerootk1l14: why you need a newer kernel was the question18:33
ActionParsnipneumjeren: does the command need root access?18:33
whoeverzimbo: if your happy with it you can use it18:33
k1l14i needed that one for the driver package18:33
k1l14i have a dino video card18:34
icerootk1l14: then you should install kernel 3.5 from the ubuntu repos18:34
BenjaminRHanybody know what will happen if I try to put the 3.10.1 kernel on 13.04?18:34
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gordonjcpneumjeren: use the full path to syndaemon18:34
k1l14it requires 3.4, it wont run on anything higher18:34
whoeverzimbo:  i just don't think there is enough controle with it18:34
zimbowhereis the transmission binary?18:34
k1lBenjaminRH: not supported in here :/18:34
ActionParsnipbenjaminRH: the kernel wont be supported here18:34
BenjaminRHuh18:34
ActionParsnipzimbo: run:  which transmission18:34
icerootk1l14: we dont support kernels which are not from ubuntu and the kernel you are using will not get security updates18:35
BenjaminRHAny idea when it will arrive in Ubuntu? Saucy?18:35
falkenMazek1l14 you can always enable the module in your kernel18:35
zimbowhich transmission isn't showing anything18:35
whoeverfind-help: expr1 ||expr218:35
k1lBenjaminRH: the 3.10 is in 13.1018:35
ActionParsnipbenjaminRH: could ask in BenjaminRH18:35
falkenMazek1l14 your existing kernel18:35
zimbobut it is installed18:35
BenjaminRHk1l: awesome, thanks18:35
whoeverzimbo: what are you asking18:35
ActionParsnip!info linux-image-generic saucy18:35
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.10.0.4.13 (saucy), package size 2 kB, installed size 33 kB18:36
BenjaminRHgreat18:36
zimbowhoever ActionParsnip there is no output when i run which transmission18:36
BenjaminRHis Saucy usable currently?18:36
versHello, i'd appreciate some help with "system is running in low graphic mode" error everytime i boot the ubuntu 13.04. I've been using ubuntu for a week, but all of the sudden i got this error. I am pretty new to linux and spent whole day trying to solve it. I am running this on Lenovo Y580 which has GeForce 660M in optimus mode with intel integrated grapic card (processor i7). First day i managed to run this bumblebee project, yet i believe18:36
versthat system is using the intel card anyway. Could somebody help me out?18:36
iceroot!info linux-image-generic-lts-saucy precise18:36
ubottuPackage linux-image-generic-lts-saucy does not exist in precise18:36
icerootBenjaminRH: no18:36
whoeverzimbo: try a different client18:36
whoeverie deluge18:36
BenjaminRHalright18:36
puppertdo you guys have any info one forum hack?  have the passwords been cracked and found in the wild?18:36
zimbookay i will do that18:36
ActionParsnipzimbo: which transmission-gtk ,maybe18:37
BenjaminRHiceroot, k1l, ActionParsnip: thnx18:37
puppertone/on18:37
icerootpuppert: only password-hashes are stored18:37
wilee-nileepuppert, The site tels what is known #ubuntuforums is the chanell you want18:37
zimboActionParsnip yeah that's right18:37
puppertah ok18:37
whoeverzimbo: transmission , the more you try to automate stuff the less you find you can do with it18:37
ActionParsnippuppert: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic18:37
k1lpuppert: #ubuntuforums18:37
falkenMazek1l14 lspci -k18:37
find-helpwhoever: can i not say 1 expr -or 2 expr without having to find ... | find ... | find ....18:38
whoeverzimbo: i don't use transmission , so i wouldn't know18:38
zimbowhoever i am installing a better client18:38
FloodBot1!netsplit18:38
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit18:38
whoeverfindso you want to find any filename that begins with expr  correc?18:38
whoeverzimbo: good, ...18:39
zimbooh hell yeah, i am downloading some pirated text books! studying time mannnn wooooooo!18:39
whoeverfind-help you want to find any filename that begins with expr  correc?18:39
falkenMazek1l14 lspci -k |curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us18:39
icerootzimbo: stop that here, that is not supported18:40
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checoimgcrazydiamond : maybe this could work : http://thebeautifullmind.com/2012/09/19/sharing-internet-over-wifi-between-ubuntu-and-android/18:41
neumjerengordonjcp: Thanks!18:41
zimboiceroot, yes sir, sorry sir18:42
columbIs it possible to downgrade system from daily 13.10 to 13.04?18:42
_ravenfeed2imap problem: it always uploads EVERYTHING again, not only new items. help please18:42
IRIDIUMholaaa Quieres ver canal plus GRaTiS, gol Tv, canales temáticos... y mucho mas??? entra en:  www.refectori.com18:42
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KerimWhat's with all those quits all of a sudden?18:43
checoimgKerim : I dunno18:43
zimbotoo many rules18:43
icerootcolumb: no18:43
BenjaminRHanybody know how I enable the Toshiba ACPI option in the kernel?18:44
k1l!netsplit | kerim18:44
ubottukerim: netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit18:44
zimbooO hmmm netsplit eh, interesting18:44
Kerimk1l: ubottu: Oh wow, thanks. I'm kind of an IRC newb18:44
Fuzzlesi wish itunes came to linux means i can stop using windows, till that happens i will use windows as my os18:46
kellyguys i need chat clients that allow me to send and receive pictures between hotmail accounts ? i tried pidgin , friend of mine send many pictures to me but here in pidgin i can't see anything receive to me ?18:46
Kerimsplit riding lol, so smart and so douchy18:46
reisioFuzzles: heh18:46
taekI wish itunes would just disappear.18:46
icerootFuzzles: we all hope that something like itunes will never reach GNU/Linux. we hope that the apple-users will stop supporting such evil companies/software18:46
reisioFuzzles: the only thing keeping you using iTunes is your purchases of inferior hardware18:46
checoimgFuzzles : what do you use Itunes for ?18:47
Fuzzleschecoimg, my phone18:47
iceroot!iphone | Fuzzles18:47
ubottuFuzzles: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod18:47
sircutMachine updates says 12.04 . I get  mixed up with the names . That must be precise. Do you think it is gong to do the vid any good.18:47
reisiothere are plenty of portable audio players and mobile phones that don't needlessly lock you into using proprietary binary closed source win32 or Mac OS awful software18:48
icerootreisio: +118:48
Fuzzlesiceroot, i know but if i needed to restore or anything im stuck18:48
checoimgFuzzles : Oh I see, I have to buy specific Phones to have support with Ubuntu18:48
ActionParsnipcrazydiamond: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing18:48
icerootFuzzles: yes you are stuck because you have a jail18:48
reisioincluding most iPods, if you're willing to let them be reformatted18:48
yeatsFuzzles: you can also dual boot or keep windows in a VM (VirtualBox has USB 2.0 support in its proprietary extension pack)18:48
icerootFuzzles: it was your choice to use a jail18:48
ActionParsnipcrazydiamond: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing18:48
reisioa jail you bought, on purpose18:48
reisioyes indeed18:48
icerootFuzzles: you should only use Free Software (free as in free speech), if you dont do that, you are forced to use specific software so that your product is working18:49
icerootFuzzles: specially after the PRISM/NSA stuff people should look at Freedom and dont support such products which take away your freedom18:50
psiloyou're forced to use specific software to achieve a given purpose anyway.18:50
Fuzzlesguys i didnt come here to get beef of everyone i just asked a question18:50
checoimgYeah and why don't Linux users make a company to pay for included drivers like MS does ?18:50
yeatsFuzzles: you can use Windows alongside ubuntu18:50
taekMicrosoft doesn't pay anyone18:51
reisiobecause we already have more drivers and better drivers without paying for anything :)18:51
checoimgHA18:51
Fuzzlesiceroot, wasnt my choice its my work phone18:51
checoimgAnd they ask you to update it  ?18:51
whoeverchecoimg: because we all play nice with each other18:52
icerootFuzzles: every person which is still supporting Apple should be warned and that is what we are doing because we belive in Freedom and not such silly jails for young people to impress girls/to be cool18:52
yeatsFuzzles: just ignore them - do you have a tech support question about getting your iphone working with Ubuntu?18:52
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whoever checoimg and if we did that we would have to charge those like yourself just to be in the same room as us18:52
whoeverchecoimg: not to mention that would defeat GNU18:53
Fuzzlesyeats, ye my question is what software can i use to put and take music of of an iphone, and is there any software that can be used to restore it?18:53
reisioFuzzles: using bluetooth would be the simplest18:53
ActionParsnipfuzzles: banshee or rhythmbox18:53
whoeverFuzzles: there are a few you can use18:54
checoimgI think Banshee is better18:54
iceroot!iphone18:54
ubottuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod18:54
reisiohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_iPod_managers#iPhone_.26_iPod_Touch_compatibility18:54
_ravenfeed2imap problem: it always uploads EVERYTHING again, not only new items. help please18:54
whoeverFuzzles: gtkpod18:55
checoimgRhythmbox makes a full synchronization of songs so in case your music collection is more than the Iphone can have then you will have problems18:55
whoeverFuzzles: sudo apt-get install gtkpod18:55
Fuzzleswhoever,  it doesnt allow me to restore does it?18:55
yeatsFuzzles: you're probably going to need iTunes to some degree, which probably means you'll need windows somewhere - like I suggested, you can dual boot or run Windows in a VM18:55
ActionParsnip!info gtkpod18:55
ubottugtkpod (source: gtkpod): manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.1.3-3ubuntu1 (raring), package size 351 kB, installed size 962 kB18:55
checoimgwhoever : Why would that defeat GNU ?18:55
ActionParsnipfuzzles: what does "restore it" mean?18:56
* yeats was stuck with a work iPhone for a while and never found a full itunes replacement :-/18:56
versHi there, could any1 assist me with "system is running in low graphics mode' error? i tried several solutions found on the net, but with no luck at all18:56
whoeverFuzzles: that is the limitation of the gnu ipodd tools if you simply must be able to restore then your stuck with itunes18:56
ActionParsnipyeats:  its proprietary. until apple open up you will be forever stuck18:56
yeatsActionParsnip: well now I'm using Android devices and no longer need anything like that ;-)18:57
ActionParsnipvers: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue18:57
Fuzzleswhoever, ok thanks ill just have to hope as ubuntu grows then a linux version is made18:57
ActionParsnipyeats: been on android since the G1 :-)18:57
versActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l18:57
icerootFuzzles: as we said, we hope never to see something like that on our system18:57
ActionParsnipfuzzles: that is entirely down to apple18:57
hyprvxcan anyone offer support for installing Opera?18:57
yeatsFuzzles: it's never going to happen ;-)18:58
ActionParsnipfuzzles: so you can guess how likely that is18:58
auronandacehyprvx: opera can, we can't18:58
iceroot!info opera18:58
ubottuPackage opera does not exist in raring18:58
ActionParsnipvers: and what video chip do you use18:58
yeatshyprvx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser18:58
iceroothyprvx: imo opera is in the partner repo18:58
ActionParsnipi thought it was only in the opera repo.,18:59
icerootActionParsnip: on 8.04 it was in the partner-repo :)18:59
versActionParsnip: I have Nvidia GeForce 660M in my laptop with this Optimus technology and Intel Graphics card18:59
yeatsI don't think opera's been in the repos for years now18:59
FuzzlesActionParsnip, that's true i guess, another option is to have ubuntu on my main hd and find a old hard drive and install windows on that just for itunes18:59
ActionParsnipvers: did you install bumblebee?19:00
Hilikusis it still the case that for nvidia drivers we have the option of the opensource driver vs the binary driver by nvidia directly and that to install the binary driver you need download the sh script from nvidia?19:00
wilee-nileedeb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free #The offical source of Opera19:00
yeatsFuzzles: that's what I would do19:00
icerootHilikus: no you can also get the nonfree driver directly from ubuntu19:00
ActionParsnipfuzzles: why? you can use virtualbox and run it when you want to mess with your device19:00
Hilikusiceroot: what's the package?19:00
auronandaceHilikus: we only support what is in our repos, the nvidia driver is in the repos but it may be older than the one from their site19:00
whoeverchriswk: beacause GNU is to openly and freely share, and if we are charging, then we are not freely sharing, and yes we could still charge but we would have to give the source code, just doesn't make since to always charge since you have to pay people to man phones and you have no idea how many people won't read and wand to pay you to solve their problem , since unlike winblows there is 100's of posible os configs , tha would just add to 19:01
FuzzlesActionParsnip, i tried that and virtualbox is funny when it comes to using the usb kept messing around19:01
ActionParsniphilikus: just install nvidia-current unless you use the optimus mess19:01
versActionParsnip: Yes i did. I followed some tutorials and seems to be working (however i doubt any of my application uses this geforce card). It's been working for a week and today it stopped when i wanted to use compiz19:01
icerootHilikus: dont know but jockey?? should popup at first start and say there are nonfree drivers and there you can select the driver19:01
ActionParsnipfuzzles: tried the non OSE19:01
whoeverso it does not really deafeat it just doesn't make good buisness since to do it19:01
icerootvbox non ose + windows + itunes just to use a phone.....19:01
Fuzzlesyeats, ye will have to wait for a while as my 500gb has windows and my 80gb as ubuntu so will have to wait to switch them over19:02
ActionParsnipvers: this is all i know. Optimus is a cheap havk imho19:02
checoimgwhoever : Ok19:02
Hilikusok, now, i didn't know this and installed the nvidia drivers directly from the nvidia script and now my ubuntu doesn't boot. after the bootup splashscreen it hands on a black screen19:02
taekiceroot: get rid of your iphone19:02
Hilikushow can i fix this??19:02
iceroottaek: reread the conversation19:02
drjeatshmm. a couple of guides recommend just using rEFInd to boot ubuntu's kernel directly, without GRUB. is that good advice or no? Not sure how to *not* install grub from the installer19:02
BenjaminRHHilikus: I've just spent the last couple of days messing with that ;)19:02
_ravenfeed2imap problem: it always uploads EVERYTHING again, not only new items. help please19:02
ActionParsniphilikus: tried: sudo nvida-xconfig19:02
Fuzzlesiceroot, i know but will have to do or have on another hard drive incase its needed anytime in the future19:03
taekiceroot: you use itunes - (iphone) thusly you have to use a virtual machine to take care of it - get rid of iphone and problem solved. :D19:03
drjeats(on a macbookpro3,1)19:03
versActionParsnip: ok thanks anyway19:03
HilikusactionParsnip, doesn't that just create a new xorg.conf file?19:03
auronandacetaek: if you followed the conversation you will find iceroot isn't the one using itunes19:03
iceroottaek: rereread it and try to understand it19:04
Fuzzlestaek, i am problem is im on a contract so have to wait till its over19:04
taekOh my bad! juggling 2 irssi clients19:04
taek:D19:04
iceroottaek: there are a few things i would never do and one of them is use apple products.19:05
_ravenfeed2imap problem: it always uploads EVERYTHING again, not only new items. help please19:05
iceroot!repeat | _raven19:05
ubottu_raven: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/19:05
taekiceroot: YaY! My kind of person!19:05
icerootexcept one apple product we are all using :( cups19:06
taekiceroot: I don't use cups.19:06
taekNo printers here!.19:06
iceroottaek: )19:06
whoeverironhalik: are you sure they ditn't steal that from xeorx too19:06
checoimgHA!19:07
lotuspsychjehow can i print a pdf form into color if black cardridge is out?19:07
taekI don't like when Apple Sees You Pees (cups)19:07
checoimgHas anyone had problems printing from Libre Office ?19:07
checoimgI have to export to PDF and then print19:07
iceroot!anyone | checoimg19:07
ubottuchecoimg: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.19:07
whoevericeroot: are you sure they ditn't steal that from xeorx too19:08
OerHekslotuspsychje, all colours together makes black AFAIK19:08
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OerHekslotuspsychje, else hop on your bike and you can print here, if you need to.19:09
lotuspsychjeOerheks: :p19:09
whoeverOerHeks: it actually the absence of all colors , and the color we see is the color that is lacking19:10
lotuspsychjeOerheks: my black and colour cartridges are seperate from hp, just cleaned out the cartridges heads19:10
Dako300How do you disable extensions in xorg19:11
lotuspsychjeOerheks: it printed colour green without issue, so i think black is out and wanted to print the whole pdf in green19:11
lotuspsychjebut not sure howto19:11
checoimgBefore that I have problems sending print jobs to the printer Ubuntu detects it but can't print. When checking printing jobs I see the question is the printer disconnected ? What can i do ?19:11
OerHekslotuspsychje, best next thing is purple, or brown19:11
OerHekslotuspsychje, only if you HP does not halt on an empty black cartridge19:12
Nothing_MuchWhat's the workaround to rip CD audio?19:13
Nothing_MuchRhythmbox has this bug which I can't see the workaround because the forums are down.19:13
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checoimgNothing_Much : Workaround for what ?19:14
Nothing_MuchRipping CDs with Rhythmbox19:14
checoimgIs it stalling while normalizing tracks ?19:14
Nothing_MuchIt has a popup that says it needs the Vorbis Encoder19:15
checoimgIs it necessary that you Rip with Rhythmbox ?19:15
Nothing_MuchI can't find any alternatives19:15
checoimgI like Asunder for that19:15
checoimgIt can Rip FLAC format19:15
OerHeksNothing_Much, you need the lame codec AFAIK = vobis enc19:15
reisioif you want a good rip, you'll want rubyripper19:16
reisioand flac, not vorbis :)19:16
checoimgFLAC recommended19:16
reisiotake that $~a!19:16
checoimgCan you set compression to 8 with rubyripper ?19:17
checoimgforget it I'll just download it and see19:17
checoimgreision : Can you please point download instructions for rubyripper  ?19:18
checoimgreisio : Can you please point download instructions for rubyripper  ?19:18
reisiochecoimg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping#RubyRipper19:19
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FloodBot1!netsplit19:20
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit19:20
Genscherhey :) is there a way to see what clients are conntected to a ubuntu dhcp server?19:20
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icerootGenscher: they are not connected, they just ask for an ip and then there is no connection anymore19:21
Genschericeroot, is there a way to see what up adresses has been assigned?19:21
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Genscher*have19:21
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icerootGenscher: grep -i ACK /var/log/syslog19:22
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psiloGenscher: look at /var/lib/dhcp/dhcpd.leases19:22
yeatsGenscher: /var/lib/dhcp/dhcpd.leases19:22
psiloha19:22
icerootGenscher: its somehting like DHCACK or so19:22
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yeatspsilo: :-)19:22
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BenjaminRHanybody know of an up-to-date nodejs ppa?19:23
checoimgreisio : Thank you!19:23
yeatsBenjaminRH: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7214474/how-to-keep-up-with-the-latest-versions-of-nodejs-in-ubuntu-ppa-compiling19:24
BenjaminRHyeats: awesome. tyvm19:24
Genscherthank you! grep -i /var/log/syslog reveiled everything ^^19:24
ElvanoWhen my gf tried to select the Windows option in the grub of my netbook it all of a sudden gave the error "no such partition \n  grub resque>" and it still does eversince. when I start gparted from my liveCD it shows me unallocated space there were my linux distro should be...19:24
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wilee-nileeElvano, We need some history leading to this.19:27
checoimgreisio : W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/aheck/ppa/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found19:27
rudolf_hi all19:28
checoimgHi19:28
rudolf_Do i need a firewall or an antivirus for my ubuntu?19:28
ElvanoThat's just it, wilee-nilee. She selected the 'Windows 7' option and ... well that's all there is to it...19:28
icerootrudolf_: no19:29
iceroot!virus | rudolf_19:29
ubotturudolf_: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus19:29
ElvanoAt first I just thought Windows had messed with the boot record, but that doesn't explain the unallocated space, does it?19:29
rudolf_On my windows, norton is continuously giving alerts that someone is attacking.19:30
BenjaminRHElvano: I had a problem like that recently. it had to do with UEFI and secure boot19:30
ElvanoNorton is a Virus itself, rudolf_  <.<19:30
rudolf_:|19:30
BenjaminRH^^19:30
ElvanoAny way to fix this, BenjaminRH ?19:31
rudolf_ok so I can live a worry free life with ubuntu installed? :)19:31
blibrhello. i need help. i was starting a gnome session. i then logged out and now when i try to start a unity session all i see is the background. no dash, no icons. no shortcuts work. how to fix this?19:31
BenjaminRHrudolf_: certainly not ;)19:31
BenjaminRHElvano: if your machine has it in the BIOS, is it disabled?19:31
ElvanoIf you would, this channel 'd be dead, rudolf_  =p19:32
yeatsElvano: what does 'sudo fdisk -l' show?19:32
blibrusing ubuntu 12.0419:32
rudolf_I mean I dont need to worry about intrusion attacks and all? elvano, BenjaminRH19:32
BenjaminRHrudolf_: you still have to worry about them19:33
Elvanoit only shows my USB key, yeats19:33
rudolf_BenjaminRH: Can I do something for that?19:33
Elvanothe best way to secure yourself is knowing what you're doing, rudolf_19:33
yeatsElvano: you've got the key plugged into your netbook, yes?19:33
BenjaminRHrudolf_: linux is easily vulnerable. It's just that most of the viruses out there you're likely to pick up are targeted at Windows, so you'll often be safe19:33
* taek goes for smoke19:33
BenjaminRHrudolf_: Try using a firewall, and perhaps something like chrootkit19:34
icerootBenjaminRH: it is not easily vulnerable. its the most used system in the world (smartphones, routers, server, embedded systems)19:34
ElvanoIt's the key I'm running the LiveCD from, yeats19:34
BenjaminRHiceroot: And in the hands of a pentester, easily vulnerable19:34
rudolf_Elvano, BenjaminRH ok thanks...I just asked this due to norton's stupid notifications.19:34
Hilikusi just recovered from a problem with my video drivers. now my desktop logs in and i can see my desktop icons, however, there's no unity or window borders, they are all borderless. any idea how to fix this?19:34
yeatsrudolf_: older article, but still relevant: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/tutorials/l-harden-desktop/19:34
axisyshow to create or remove a file based on my IP? I want to add file when I am on home network 192.168 and remove it when I am not on 192.168 network19:35
BenjaminRHiceroot: the fact that it is the most used system in the world has nothing to do with how vulnerable it is. There are a lot of holes, even if they don't exist in a fresh installation, that users open up19:35
wilee-nileeElvano, Hardly an answer that will get any help, no identification of the MS, no when it was installed, did it work previously, did you change anything, just to mention a few.19:35
icerootBenjaminRH: could you show me one root exploit?19:35
axisyslike to automate it19:35
rudolf_k yeats19:36
yeatsElvano: I would expect 'sudo fdisk -l' to show your hard disk as well19:36
BenjaminRHiceroot: http://www.exploit-db.com/platform/?p=linux, or19:36
BenjaminRHiceroot: http://blog.sucuri.net/2013/05/from-a-site-compromise-to-full-root-access-local-root-exploits-part-ii.html19:36
ElvanoI haven't changed a thing in months, except for the regular updates, I guess, wilee-nilee19:36
BenjaminRHiceroot: just as a quick example that a quick google turned up19:36
wilee-nileeElvano, This a uefi setup msdos, you have any backups?19:36
icerootBenjaminRH: the three examples there are all patched already19:36
icerootBenjaminRH: cve.org19:37
wilee-nileeor msdos*19:37
BenjaminRHiceroot: yes, currently they are. But they were there recently. I'm sure there are more19:37
syntroPignome 3 is such a regression, everytime i want to change anything it gets me steaming mad, such a huge waste of my time19:37
zach2825hello19:37
yeatssyntroPi: probably worth trying XFCE then19:37
icerootBenjaminRH: i asked for a root exploit, you cant name one which is working so please dont tell linux is easily attackable19:37
zach2825does anyone here know of any good xbmc plugins for streaming?19:38
BenjaminRHiceroot: I'm not even going to get into this. But let me just say that people who think they're completely secure because they're using Linux are naive19:38
icerootzach2825: #xbmc19:38
icerootBenjaminRH: noone said there is 100% security but someone said here its EASILY attackable19:38
icerootBenjaminRH: and because this is a official support channel, specially for new users, we dont like it when someone is telling them something like that which is not true19:39
syntroPieither its broken or has really stupid interface, needs ugly quirks and so on. never ending nightmare19:39
BenjaminRHiceroot: Then I apologize about bringing it up in here, and exaggerating the issue.19:40
napsciceroot: how do u know if the exploit isn't publicly discovered yet.19:42
checoimgHow can I set ClamAV to auto check all image files stored on my system ?19:42
axisysiwlist wlan0 scanning | grep myssid works..19:43
Nachtschattenwilee-nilee, yeats Apperently fdisk does show my HDD. I just wasn't patient enough to wait for my terminal to scroll up19:43
checoimgOk I just found Fireclam19:43
icerootnapsc: what about "there is no 100% security but saying its EASILY attackable" was not clear? :)19:44
yeatsNachtschatten: (assuming you're the same person as "Elvano" before), so do you see your windows partition there?19:44
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napsciceroot: your definition of easily, that's waht19:46
redey3hello i need to backup my ubuntu installation and run it on my vmware workstation19:46
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BenjaminRHiceroot: of course, you don't need a root exploit to do damage. And there are many holes which users open accidentally through various programs. And obviously a lot of targets won't be updated with the latest patches19:46
icerootnapsc: dont ask me, i didnt say easily19:46
icerootBenjaminRH: of course there are many holes, specially java, flash, skype and other stuff like that but we talked about linux and linux is a kernel19:47
wilee-nileeiceroot, http://ubuntuforums.org/announce.html as evidence of a possible root exploit, however I know it is exstremely rare and needs admin access19:47
ophukI have passwordless authentication set up for ssh between two computers. Recently I had to create a new key and I added my public key to the remote computers authorized_keys file. Whenever I ssh into the remote computer it asks me for my password. Did I miss a step?19:47
icerootwilee-nilee: root-exploit with admin-access? :)19:48
BenjaminRHiceroot: Then I was unclear originally. By "Linux", I meant the standard user's machine running Linux. As it applied to the guy asking at the time19:48
Shed-34046help19:48
jribophuk: check "ssh -vvv ..." output client-side and server logs19:48
icerootBenjaminRH: so GNU/Linux, yes of course there are security issues19:48
BenjaminRHiceroot: and saying "Linux" is secure, if you don't take into account anything else that will necessarily be involved, is a rather sneaky avoidance of the actual issue19:48
rudolf_How do I know if my ip has been assigned via DHCP?19:49
ophukjrib: one sec19:49
Shed-34046iceroot excuse me did you see my question?19:49
icerootBenjaminRH: i just say that EASILY is wrong in this place19:49
taekrudolf_: ifconfig19:49
w_ais it posible to route trafick/ports to an diferent gateway (tun0) i have transmission-deamond and whant it to use a vpn gateway. I can only get it to work if i set the tun0 as defult gateway for the pc and that i dont whant.19:49
BenjaminRHiceroot: I concede that point to you. For which I apologize.19:50
icerootBenjaminRH: even on freebsd there are security issues19:50
rudolf_taek, it is showing something19:50
icerootBenjaminRH: and because users normally install java, skype and flash, of course there are much more security issues19:50
BenjaminRHA more correct statement would be that you are generally much more secure than the average Windows or even Mac user, and the vast majority of viruses out there will not affect you running Ubuntu.19:51
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icerootBenjaminRH: +119:51
NachtschattenOw, sorry, didn't see myself get disconnected there. Yes I'm the same person, yeats . I do see my windows partition (and an error for my linux partition: Partition4 does not start on physical sector boundry.)19:51
FloodBot1!netsplit19:52
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ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit19:52
ophukjrib: Hmm, forgot about checking -vvv, looks like it's trying to use the wrong key. I'll see if I can fix it from there. thanks!19:52
rudolf_I cant understand what ifconfig is telling :|19:52
redey3i wanna make a p2v version of my ubuntu can someone help me19:52
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yeatsrudolf_: look for the line that starts with 'inet addr:'19:54
rudolf_yeats, ok...i got it...there is nothing like DHCP there.19:55
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Nachtschattenrudolf_ the fact you don't know how to use ifconfig tells me your computer is using DHCP =p19:56
yeatsrudolf_: if there's an address there, dhcp assigned it19:57
rudolf_yeats, yeah there is an address there.19:57
Hilikusunity won't start. how can i check what is wrong?19:57
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_ravenfeed2imap problem: it always uploads EVERYTHING again, not only new items. help please19:58
axisyshow does eth0 get a dhcp ip? I do not see it in interfaces file19:58
axisyswhen I am at work I get dhcp ip on eth019:58
tij_i just installed ubuntu 13.04 on windows 8, but i cannot connect to wifi - checking software and updates, there are NO proprietary drives to use... can someone help?19:59
axisysis it doing some udev trick?19:59
NachtschattenNetbook battery is dead. Fixing it will be for another moment, I guess19:59
yeatsaxisys: by default, eth0 should be configured for dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces19:59
Dako300I recently installed a new X1600 GPU alongside my Riva TNT2 which I need the TNT2 to boot the computer. If I modprobe vesafb and nouveau, I can get a terminal on the X1600 card but I cannot boot into X with startx. Any help would be nice. The Xorg log pastebin is here: http://pastebin.com/RdrcahZF20:00
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Dako300I meant to say blacklist20:00
axisysyeats: its not in my interfaces file..20:00
yeatsaxisys: oh wait - you're right - mine doesn't have that either20:00
yeatshmm20:00
taekrudolf_: http://imgur.com/tAYyh4T20:00
axisysI think networkmanager does some trick to detect and then activate ?20:00
axisyswhen I am home I only use wlan0, so cannot test20:01
taekmy gimp skillz are not as good as my photoshop skillz, but there you have it20:01
axisysyeats: what do you get with ifup eth0 ?20:01
here_hi all is there a way to disable a user's password similar to 'adduser --disabled-password' for an *existing* user and without modifying /etc/ssh/sshd_config ?20:02
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Pendrag0nuseradd asks many questions about a user, address, phone, office etc.  Now that users were added, how do I see any of that information for a specified user?20:03
Pendrag0nwow, 2 huge network splits in a row.20:03
Pendrag0n useradd asks many questions about a user, address, phone, office etc.  Now that users were added, how do I see any of that information for a specified user? (only asked again in case the network split sent my message too far up for people to see it)20:03
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axisyshere: passwd -l user20:04
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psiloPendrag0n: these are known as the GECOS information and it's in /etc/passwd20:04
herePendrag0n: /etc/passwd ?20:04
napscPendrag0n: cat /etc/passwd20:05
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joshu_is it possible to configure the mobile broadband connection from lightdm http://cl.ly/image/0l1O3I2J173l20:06
_ravenfeed2imap problem: it always uploads EVERYTHING again, not only new items. help please20:06
hereaxisys: perfect thanks20:06
taekaxisys: you fail my system!20:07
taeknow I can't sudo!20:07
tij_sorry for reposting this, but no one answered --> i just installed ubuntu 13.04 on windows 8, but i cannot connect to wifi - checking software and updates, there are NO proprietary drives to use... can someone help?20:08
falkenMazetaek give root a password then su root20:08
auronandace!noroot | falkenMaze20:09
ubottufalkenMaze: We do not support setting a root password. You're free to do it on your own machine, but please don't offer instructions on how to set a root password or ask for help with setting it. See !root and !wfm for more information.20:09
OerHeksThe first account created after install has 'root'priv. that is the Ubuntu way.20:11
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zachrabis this the best channel for unix/bash shell related questions?20:13
k1lzachrab: this is the ubuntu channel. for bash ask in #bash20:14
zachrabk1l: got cool thx20:14
pico_what other components are needed to run snort?20:15
goddardwhere is my sftp mounts if looking from the command line?20:16
goddardwhere the floodbots hacked as well?20:17
k1lgoddard: no, FloodBots are fine20:17
goddardwhere is my sftp mounts if looking from the command line?20:17
joshu_why are most things greyed out in network manager?20:18
Jordan_Ugoddard: Mounted via Nautilus?20:18
hereaxisys: as taek says, tips on disabled passwd playing nicely with sudo ?20:18
goddardJordan_U: yes20:18
Jordan_Ugoddard: ~/.gvfs/20:18
hereperhaps /etc/sudoers : <name> ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL20:19
don_jaimeanyone in here good at broken boot advice? :)20:22
reisiono, but some people here are20:22
Priceydon_jaime: What do you see?20:22
dshaphey all, i just created an EC2 instance with the official Ubuntu 13.04 AMI and i'm trying to SSH onto it but it's timing out. i'm running "ssh -i ~/.ssh/my_key.pem ubuntu@the_host_name.com"   is there something i may have forgotten to do?20:23
don_jaimebackground: boot partition filled up, i found a proper looking way to remove old kernels, then tried various combos of grub reinstallation and the grub update scripts (that's probably where i went wrong)20:23
heredshap: modify security group to whitelist your IP20:24
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don_jaimenow grub loads, finds my kernels just fine, but the kernels aren't seeing my lvm root partition, and when i make an initrd using the rescue cd, i'm getting dropped into busybox20:24
dshaphere: by default all IPs are blocked?20:25
dshaphere: i'm using the default security group20:25
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dshaphere: guess ill do some more digging re: security groups. thank you!20:26
heredshap: yep. been there ;p.20:26
dshapahh20:26
don_jaimei think ultimately i just want to be pointed in the right direction to read up on what boot setup the installer gives me when doing root over lvm.  like "grub2, and the mkinit config should be hooked to do xyz" or whatever. that was a nice setup til i borked it.20:26
heredshap: i think port 80 may be open, not much else.20:26
don_jaimeand all the docs i'm coming across just focus on how to reinstall grub or how to make an initrd, but i haven't seen anything that's talking about that initial setup that was "just working" :)20:27
dshaphere: great, that was definitely the issue. thanks a ton20:28
don_jaimePricey: sorry, i should've directed those responses at ya20:29
heredshap: np enjoy20:29
Nicolas_LeonidasHey how can I make this go away each time I'm sshing? Enter passphrase for key '/home/nicolas/.ssh/id_rsa'20:30
don_jaimeNicolas_Leonidas: opt 1 is replace it with its decrypted self (less secure), opt 2 is run ssh-agent so you only have to type that the first use and then it stays in memory decrypted20:33
KerimNicolas_Leonidas: http://www.linuxproblem.org/art_9.html , http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/11/3-steps-to-perform-ssh-login-without-password-using-ssh-keygen-ssh-copy-id/20:34
KerimNicolas_Leonidas: I recommend don_jaime 's solution, though20:34
joshu_is it not possible to make changes in the network manager from lightdm without first logging in?20:34
Droopsta915Hello. im trying to install ubuntu from my usb stck. but my laptop doesnt go into the boot setup menu. any ideas how i can access the install20:34
reisioDroopsta915: it just boots its preinstalled OS instead?20:34
KerimDroopsta915: Check the boot order of your laptop20:34
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heretaek falkenMaze: /etc/sudoers works great for sudo with disabled passwords : <user>    ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL20:34
Nicolas_Leonidasdon_jaime: if I want to decrypt self will I have to update the key on all hosts?20:35
don_jaimeNicolas_Leonidas: only the ones you're sshing from--the ones you're sshing *to* have the public key, which is not encrypted20:36
Nicolas_Leonidasdon_jaime: yeah so the answer is I will be able to connect to anything I can connect now, right?20:36
Droopsta915the problem is my screen is cracked, so im using a computer monitor. the setup key is F12, but i press the key and i cant see any boot order options. just blank screen.20:37
don_jaimeNicolas_Leonidas: right, decrypting the private key would only be changing how it is stored locally, it would not change what it is or how the other hosts see it20:37
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Nicolas_Leonidasdon_jaime: ok, great how do I decrypt?20:38
KerimDroopsta915: Are you sure it is F2? Just try DEL. Also may I know your computer model?20:38
don_jaimeNicolas_Leonidas: i'm googling for the syntax... :)20:39
evgenhi20:39
Nicolas_Leonidasdon_jaime: I did too lol20:39
Droopsta915Kerim: its a Dell inspiron mini 1012. yes. the manual says F12, but i have tried all F2 through F12 and i cant get the menu to pop up. frustrating20:40
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Droopsta915Kerim: ive also removed the flash drive and attemted to to get into the boot setup. still nothing20:41
don_jaimeNicolas_Leonidas: i believe you want to do ssh-keygen -p (with possibly some other options) as that allows you to manage the password (and should let you essentially remove it)20:41
don_jaimeNicolas_Leonidas: here we go maybe http://learninglamp.wordpress.com/2012/06/26/remove-passphrase-from-ssh-key/20:42
don_jaimethat uses a different tool, so you might want to consider your options between the two20:42
KerimDroopsta915: Do you have any other OS on your machine, currently?20:42
thrzshtest20:43
napschttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/112396/how-do-i-remove-the-passphrase-for-the-ssh-key-without-having-to-create-a-new-ke20:43
Droopsta915Kerim: yes. Ubuntu 11.04. Its eol. trying to upgrade to 12.04.20:43
don_jaimeNicolas_Leonidas: ah, yeah, just ssh-keygen -p20:43
don_jaimeNicolas_Leonidas: "Enter new passphrase (empty for no passphrase):"20:44
k1l!eolupgrades | Droopsta91520:44
ubottuDroopsta915: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades20:44
KerimDroopsta915: Hmmm, gimme a moment20:45
hphoenixGot an odd problem on a recent install of 13.04.  After installing and configuring, I had a secondary physical drive installed (an old w95 drive) I copied some stuff off of.  I removed the old drive physically, but now when I try to boot, it drops to busybox/initramfs.  How do you remove a physical drive from the system?  (I already checked fstab, and /dev/sdb isn't even in it.)20:45
Nicolas_Leonidasdon_jaime: yup, that worked, life's more interesting now, many thanks20:45
Droopsta915Kerim: i think maybe F12 gives me the setup screen, but i cant see it using a computer monitor. But if i cant see it. its impossible to boot from usb.20:47
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KerimDroopsta915: Do you use the keyboard on the machine itself?20:47
KerimDroopsta915: or an external one?20:48
Droopsta915Kerim. yes. On the machine.20:48
KerimDroopsta915: Then use an external one. I am assuming that you have to keep the lid opened to use the machine's keyboard and the computer might not know that the screen is defect so it doesn't default to the external screen20:49
KerimDroopsta915: Use an external keyboard and for testing purposes, turn on your machine and immediately close the lid20:49
KerimDroopsta915: See if you see anything BIOS-like on your external screen20:49
KerimDroopsta915: Any boot up messages, etc20:50
XabsterI'm very new to Ubuntu and I would love some help on getting my fans under control in my new install of 13.04 - the noise is driving me insane20:51
Droopsta915Kerim:ok. good idea. let me try an external keyboard and reboot. ;) worth a shot. ill be back soon20:51
KerimDroopsta915: Alright :)20:51
joshu_how can I find where network manager stores the mobile broadband settings?20:52
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Dr_Willis!fixgrub | hphoenix20:53
ubottuhphoenix: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub220:53
Dr_Willishphoenix,  id try the ubuntu live cd and the boot-repair tool mentioned at the fixgrub urls20:53
hphoenixGrub boots fine.  It's when I select to boot it fails to find the drive and drops to initramfs.  I plugged the drive back in, booted just fine.20:54
Xabster!fixfan20:55
hphoenix(the actual boot drive is there and readable....it's the /dev/sdb drive it can't find)20:55
Dr_Willisbecause the grub configs are confused would be my guess.. the fixgrub tool/boot-repair tool should fix that20:56
hphoenixI'll give it a shot.  Thanks!20:57
Dr_Willisquiet? or lag? or netsplit  i missed?21:13
mafsiDr_Willis: quiet, I think...21:15
uncloudedwhat does the 12.04 Desktop installer do after trying to install the bootloader?  our install failed trying to install the bootloader.  after we've fixed it up with grub-install, what would the installer have done afterwards that will be left undone?21:21
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bekksunclouded: It will tell you that the installation was successful.21:22
uncloudednice, so after we21:22
uncloudedve sorted GRUB then it will be a normal system?21:23
drjeatsanybody ever dealt with a flickering screen using an nvidia 8600M?21:24
bekksunclouded: Yes.21:24
drjeatsflickers on nouveau, leaves me with a blank screen and blinking cursor if i install nvidia-310 or nvidia-313-updates. am just now about to try nvidia-304 and others21:24
uncloudedsweet, cheers for that bekks21:25
Naphatuli just made another account on the same machine, it's not in the sudoers file but it can still see my home directory, is there a way to change this besides chmoding my whole home folder?21:28
Ben64!acl | Naphatul21:28
Ben64oh...21:28
Ben64Naphatul: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissionsACLs21:29
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netlar_I see init on my system, but I thought Upstart replaces init21:30
bekksnetlar_: Which it does. For backward compatibility, you still have /etc/init/, and, still, the kernel calls "init" as PID 1. That has nothing to do with SYSV init.21:32
kike_HOLA21:32
kike_Hola que tal21:33
netlar_bekks: Is /etc/init different from /sbin/init?21:33
bekksnetlar_: Of course.21:33
kike_nirvana21:33
bekksnetlar_: /etc/init/ is part of SYSV init scripts, while /sbin/init is the very first userland application that is called by the kernel.21:33
netlar_SYSV = Upstart?21:33
bekksnetlar_: No. SYSV = SYSV. Upstart replaces it.21:34
netlar_oh ok21:34
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k1l!sp | kike_21:35
k1l!spanish | kike_21:35
ubottukike_: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.21:35
netlar_bekks: I am just reading the Upstart Intro and trying to get a better understanding21:36
redmk2quit21:37
redmk2bye21:37
kike_donde lo escribp disculpe21:38
columbI've done something wrong and I can't switch my keyboard layout with shift+alt. Layout indicator is also missing. However, indicator still works in system login menu just after PC start.21:39
columbiBus daemon is running. Indicator is enabled. But... Doesn't work.21:39
columbAnd any related info about similar issues on ubuntuforums is unavailable due to maintenance.21:41
bekkscolumb: google still has the cached pages.21:42
Joufflutrying to load ubuntu onto VMWare via USB, I tested the USB by rebooting my computer and it booted fine; don't know why VMWare is NOT detecting the bootloader...21:43
reisioJoufflu: some reason you aren't just telling vmware where the image (.iso) is?21:44
amanda_khey guys. anyone here familiar with upstart. as in /etc/init/ ?21:45
bekksamanda_k: Why?21:46
amanda_kim trying to make a job on my dev server to auto compile my coffeescript when it changes..21:46
amanda_kbut even though it continues to run, it stops auto compiling :/21:47
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reisiosounds like more of a job for cron or watchd/inotify or something21:47
amanda_khttp://pastebin.com/panUUjNH this is what i have.21:47
amanda_kbut like i said. it runs once. compiles, and then stops21:48
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Naphatulamanda_k: well you only call your program once, so yeah it stops21:50
Naphatulunless coffee watches for changes21:50
amanda_kright. i have the -w flag21:50
amanda_kwhen i run it manually it works fine21:50
Naphatulwell you can check /var/log/upstart for logs21:51
redramiresHello21:52
Teleportablehey guys how can i change the hard disk (number)?21:53
bekksTeleportable: What exactly do you mean by "hard disk number", and what do you really want to do?21:54
Beatstreettrying to reinstall server on a 2gb partition, this partition is on a 2TB drive with the remainder of the partitoin part of a RAID. During OS reload I am getting an error that the partition start at an offset and I need to correct. If I redo the partitions it will drop the drive out of the RAID killing the data?21:54
amanda_kNaphatul: nothing out of the ordinary...21:55
amanda_kNaphatul: just a log of the compiles files, not why it just compiles once and stops21:55
Teleportablebekks ive removed my external disk, after reattach the number has been changed, ex. disk1 changed to disk221:55
Teleportablebekks i cant run my projects21:56
bekksTeleportable: Eaples are useless, since Ubuntu does not use "disk1" or "disk2".21:56
bekksTeleportable: What exactly is the error you get when doing what exactly?21:56
Teleportablebekks Ardour and Transmission cant find the correct address21:57
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bekksTeleportable: Which address?21:57
bekksTeleportable: Neither ardour nor Transmission do you "hard disk addresses" at all.21:57
bekksTeleportable: Whats the exact error you get when doing what exactly?21:57
Teleportablebekks on Ardour audio Tracks21:57
Teleportablebekks hold on21:58
Ampelbeinamanda_k: Shot in the dark: Does coffee fork a new process? If so, you have to tell upstart "expect fork"21:58
guzzlefryQuick question, does Ubuntu Server come with a GUI?21:58
Piciguzzlefry: no21:58
Teleportablebekks: cannot check for existing file /media/user/user1/new folder (2)/21:59
bekksTeleportable: So what does that have to do with "hard disk numbers"?21:59
bekksTeleportable: Your systems tells you it cant find a path to a file.21:59
guzzlefrySo basically, not a good platform to develop on?21:59
bekksguzzlefry: Why not?21:59
guzzlefrybekks: IDEs typically need some type of desktop environment.21:59
Ampelbeinguzzlefry: You can install any gui you like.22:00
bekksguzzlefry: Then install one.22:00
Naphatulguzzlefry: why would you develop on a server?22:00
guzzlefryBecause it's local?22:00
guzzlefrycontained in a VM in my case22:00
amanda_kAmpelbein: when i do `service coffee start` it stops the return :/22:00
Naphatulso use a VM with a desktop distro to write your code and deploy to a VM22:00
Piciguzzlefry: you can install 'server packages' on a normal desktop install too.22:00
guzzlefryIs the configuration/setup the same?22:01
Ampelbeinguzzlefry: Ubuntu Server is just a different set of DEFAULT software installed.22:01
guzzlefryah okay22:01
guzzlefrythanks22:01
amanda_kAmpelbein: and no. that doesnt work :/22:02
Naphatulamanda_k: whats this coffee application exactly? might help to know what it's doing22:02
Ampelbeinamanda_k: was worth a try.22:02
amanda_kcoffee is a coffeescript to javascript compiler22:03
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amanda_kyou write more python-like code that then compiles into javascript22:03
amanda_kso it runs under nodejs22:03
Naphatulyeah but i mean like the webpage with the documentation, it doesn't look like it's in the default repos, at least not under just coffee22:04
AmpelbeinNaphatul: The package is called coffeescript.22:04
amanda_kNaphatul: http://coffeescript.org/22:04
TechTonicshello i'm having a difficult time getting ruby 2.0.0-p247 to install on ubuntu 13.04 anyone have anyideas?22:06
daftykinsmaybe find a ruby channel22:06
TechTonicsheheh great idea .. i think everyone is asleep in there :)22:07
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daftykinsor they're meanies and won't reply :(22:07
TechTonicsalso could be ..22:08
daftykinswhat exactly is happening when you try?22:08
AmpelbeinTechTonics: It would also help if you included some kind of error message, what exactly you were doing etc.22:08
daftykins^22:08
Neo33hello folks, i have a captcha question that i cannot anwer. any help pls? ( What does everyone celebrate on the third Saturday of September (in 3 letters)? )22:08
TechTonicswell i dl the tarball .. run ./configure22:08
TechTonicsand then make22:08
TechTonicsand then make install .....22:09
Teleportablebekks it cant find the path file because of disk(number)22:09
k1l!ot | Neo3322:09
ubottuNeo33: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:09
m000gleDoes anyone know of a way to set minimum window dimensions for a Chromium/Chrome window?22:09
Neo33sorry k1l22:09
bekksTeleportable: Which disk number? Whats a disk number supposed to be?22:09
TechTonicsthen i get from ./tool/rbinstall.rb:751:in `<main>'make: *** [do-install-all] Error 122:09
bekksTeleportable: Where do you suspect a "disk number" in the file path?22:09
daftykinsNeo33: hah i have absolutely no idea22:09
Dr_Willisdisk number?  like  /dev/sda1  ?22:10
Dr_Willis1=the # of the partition22:10
AmpelbeinTechTonics: Could you include more context of that error? Use paste.ubuntu.com and include more of the output.22:10
Teleportablebekks WARNING A sound file is missing. it will be replaced by silence ERROR Filesource: cannont check for existing file media/user/disk1/New folder/Audio 2.wav permission denied22:11
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Teleportablebekks from Ardour22:12
Teleportablebekks my external hard is disk3 atm22:12
Dr_Willisthats just a path to the mountpoint22:13
Dr_Williswhich may have changed if the disk has been remounted22:13
bekksTeleportable: if it is "disk3", then you are not on ubuntu.22:13
Dr_Willisdoes /media/yourusername/disk(anhtying) exist?22:13
TeleportableDr_Willis exactly22:13
linux|newbI naively kicked off a mkfs job to a 3TB drive via ssh and wanna got to bed and kill the laptop the ssh session is running on... will initialising disk with 0s still run to completion if I kill session?22:13
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TechTonicsthanks i got it .. .needed to be root :)22:13
Dr_WillisUnless his disk is labeled 'disk3'22:13
TechTonicsthanks :)22:13
bekksTeleportable: The file path /media/somewhere/some/path/file.name is just a path.22:14
bekksDr_Willis: :)22:14
dlaflammebelow123Ice22:14
bekkslinux|newb: no. it will just cancel the running job. Just wait a few minutes.22:14
Teleportablebekks so what is this error from?22:14
Naphatulamanda_k: maybe try 'expect daemon' or 'expect stop' ?22:14
Dr_Willislinux|newb,  i dont think it will. You could do a ctrl-z, then 'bg' then 'exit'  and that MIGHT let it keep running22:14
Dr_Willismkfs is not initilizing the disk with zeros as far as i know.. it does other stuff22:15
bekksTeleportable: That file does not exist. The path does not exist.22:15
Naphatulamanda_k: when it fails compiling what does upstart say the status is?22:15
bekksTeleportable: Its nothing about "disk numbers" or whatsoever.22:15
Teleportablebekks im on the path and the file is here22:15
linux|newbbekks: Dr_Willis: cheers22:15
Dr_WillisTeleportable,  on it how? if in the terminal see what 'pwd' says the path is22:15
amanda_kNaphatul: stop/daemon didnt work22:17
columbWhat's ubuntu default input method? iBus?22:18
amanda_kNaphatul: it says its running22:18
TeleportableDr_Willis & bekks worked after changing the path by gedit !!!.....22:18
trismamanda_k: hmm, a simple upstart user script with: exec coffee -cw /home/user/coffee/; is working fine here after I: start coffee; did you check /var/log/upstart/coffee.log for output?22:18
amanda_kNaphatul: the process doesnt seem like it dies, but just stops working for some reason22:18
Fred_12221linux|newb look up the 'screen' command. I always use it when connecting via ssh. It lets you disconnect from the ssh session with the programs still running.22:19
amanda_ktrism: 21:26:19 - compiled /var/apps/hauler/static/js/settings.coffee .. and so on. no errors22:19
Teleportablebekks so i could just change the number, that was the problem but i could find this how...22:19
bekksTeleportable: There is no such "number" you insist to believe in.22:19
TeleportableDisk122:20
TeleportableDisk222:20
trismamanda_k: that would seem like it is working then, right?22:20
Teleportablebekks it counts when you have a duplicated  name....22:20
bekksTeleportable: The most likely approach is that thats just the name of the filesystem. And thats irrelevant at all.22:20
amanda_ktrism: but its not. it compiles once and if i change another .coffee file it fails to generate a new .js for it22:20
Teleportablebekks as array22:20
bekksTeleportable: Then its the name of the filesystem, which can be safely ignored.22:20
Teleportablebekks true22:21
bekksTeleportable: And enter is not a punctuation sign,22:21
Teleportablebekks is there no option for Rename external hards?22:22
bekksTeleportable: You can rename them as you like. It will not even affect your "problem".22:22
Teleportablebekks theres no option for22:23
Naphatulamanda_k: try to see if anything here helps: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#command-line-options22:23
Teleportablebekks (its inactive)22:23
Naphatulotherwise i'm out of ideas22:23
bekksTeleportable: There is. It will not affect your problem.22:23
Teleportablebekks but ardour could read all correct when i changed its path22:23
bekksTeleportable: The path will not be changed by renaming the filesystem.22:24
bekksTeleportable: Thats why "it will not affect your problem".22:24
trismamanda_k: that is strange, I am making directories all over the place here and adding new files without a problem, I would suggest a permission issue but if it really works the first time...22:24
guzzlefryHow likely is an Ubuntu Server to break after updates?22:24
Teleportablebekks give me a chance22:24
Teleportablebekks is there a cmd for terminal to rename by sudo?22:25
k1lguzzlefry: depends on the setting. but 3rd party software will brake faster22:25
bekksTeleportable: tune2fs - but again, for the third time: it will not solve your problem.22:25
* guzzlefry is used to source-based distros. So isn't sure as to how much more reliable binary-based are.22:25
bekksguzzlefry: This isnt #statistics.22:25
bekksguzzlefry: Just have a backup handy.22:25
trismamanda_k: maybe try creating a new directory and just adding one file, then check the perms before and after?22:25
Teleportablebekks ah ok but how to change the array? :'(22:26
Naphatulguzzlefry: if you want really stable go use debian stable22:26
bekksTeleportable: There is no such array whatsoever.22:26
jason_hudsonguzzlefry, it's generally unlikely.22:26
guzzlefryok, thanks22:26
bekksTeleportable: Filesystem names arent kept in arrays.22:26
k1lguzzlefry: take a look at the lts releases from ubuntu22:26
Dr_Willisstick with the default repos, no ppa's and you shouldent have many issues.22:26
k1l!lts | guzzlefry22:26
ubottuguzzlefry: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)22:26
matiasHola22:26
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XYZAFFA1RHello22:27
k1l!rootirc > XYZAFFA1R22:27
ubottuXYZAFFA1R, please see my private message22:27
OerHeksguzzlefry, how unlikely it can break, allways backup your data.22:27
amanda_ktrism: process is running as root22:28
Dr_Willis'data worth keeping - is data worth backing up'22:28
XYZAFFA1RHow do i make it not do that?22:28
XYZAFFA1RI am not using ubuntu22:28
XYZAFFA1RI am using puppy22:28
XYZAFFA1RI have fido enabled22:28
k1lXYZAFFA1R: ask the puppy support for that22:28
bekksXYZAFFA1R: This is no puppy support channel.22:28
XYZAFFA1Rok22:28
Dr_WillisXYZAFFA1R,   puppy runs everything as root, but you can make an account. see #puppy-linux22:28
amanda_ktrism: are you running the exact conf file i posted on pastebin?22:28
uwotm8so much ppl in here o.O22:28
XYZAFFA1Rok22:28
Dr_Willisor was it #puppylinux22:29
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Dr_WillisPuppy is weird and annoying. ;)22:29
OerHeksOnly when you want the effort pay itself, Dr_Willis22:29
trismamanda_k: no I am running a user upstart script in ~/.config/upstart/, it just has: exec coffee -cw /home/user/coffee/22:29
uwotm8does any of you need a darkode.com invitation?22:29
trismamanda_k: I'll try a system wide one22:30
k1l!ot | uwotm822:30
ubottuuwotm8: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:30
Dr_Willistrism,  - upstart finally got support for user  owned upstart  tasks?  never noticed.22:30
uwotm8klol22:30
uwotm8bai22:30
amanda_ktrism: i now have the same line as you. same issue. compiles when i first run it. i have to keep stopping/starting it to compile any changes :'(22:32
trismDr_Willis: yep, disabled by default but easy to enable if you use unity, pretty nice too22:33
trismamanda_k: hmm, working fine as a system wide script in /etc/init/ for me too22:35
amanda_ktrism: im so depressed. this sucks. what version of coffee/ node are you using?22:36
trismamanda_k: if you are on 13.04 there is another option you could try22:36
kontagiouswhich ati driver should i use with 13.0422:36
GuestOnehey guys, i don't remember if i have an account on ubuntu forums, how to know this?22:36
amanda_ktrism: im on precise22:36
trismamanda_k: whichever version is in 13.04, 1.4.0 it seems22:37
trismamanda_k: maybe a bug I'll try on my 12.04 system22:37
GuestOnehas canonical send a mail about the recent issue?22:37
OerHeksGuestOne, not yet, see http://blog.canonical.com/2013/07/21/notice-of-security-breach-on-ubuntu-forums-site/22:38
GuestOneOerHeks, there is some way to know if i have an account on ubuntu forums? i don't remember22:38
GuestOnei need to know to change my password eventually22:39
XYZAFFA1ROK i am back as not root now22:40
trismamanda_k: hmm working fine on 12.04 too, although I am only doing simple scripts22:40
OerHeks!rootirc22:40
ubottuIt's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.22:40
trismamanda_k: if you were on 13.04 you could use upstart file events to just trigger coffee every time a file is modified in the directory22:40
amanda_ktrims: node version? coffee version?22:41
XYZAFFA1RAm I still root?22:41
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kontagious which ati driver should i use with 13.04 hd645022:41
k1lXYZAFFA1R: dont start the irc client as root22:41
trismamanda_k: still the stuff in the repos 1.2.0-2 and 0.6.12~dfsg1-1ubuntu122:41
kontagiousmy installation broke twice22:41
Dr_Willisthe one the addational-driver tool reccomends is normally the best bet kontagious22:41
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kontagiousthanks22:42
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jason_hudsonkontagious, what do you mean by "broke"?22:43
jason_hudsonkontagious, and, are you installing them on a laptop?22:43
harumphhi all - my goal is to watch netflix on my netbook. i'm running linux mint. using wine for silverlight doesn't work for me - slows things down too much. since the ubuntu forums are down, i'm finding promising google search returns that i can't see. has there been any movement on silverlight for linux?22:43
kontagiouslost unity panel22:44
kontagiousand desktop22:44
amanda_ktrism: im spooling a new box now. with the default node/coffee. i had the latest node 10. something and 1.6.3... lets see what happens22:44
Beatstreettrying to reinstall server on a 2gb partition, this partition is on a 2TB drive with the remainder of the partitoin part of a RAID. During OS reload I am getting an error that the partition start at an offset and I need to correct. If I redo the partitions it will drop the drive out of the RAID killing the data?22:44
jason_hudsonkontagious, I'm not sure it's the drivers' fault, when in doubt I always go for the opensource ones, are those offered to you?22:44
wilee-nilee!mint > harumph22:44
ubottuharumph, please see my private message22:44
XYZAFFA1RIs linux mint the same as ubuntu, all exept for the desktop?22:45
kontagiousno idea22:45
XYZAFFA1RI am no longer root22:45
danielpretty much22:45
XYZAFFA1RIs one better than the other?22:45
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Guest41519They are all based off of debain so yea22:45
kontagiousi installed them and the drivers worked until i restarted. when i restarted HDMI stopped working and vga worked but with no unity panel22:45
Dr_WillisXYZAFFA1R,  no.. they do other changes.. and mint is not supported here.. it the main point. ask about mint in the mint channels22:45
wilee-nileekontagious, You might try resetting unity and compiz. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-0422:45
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reisioXYZAFFA1R: mint is based of ubuntu is based off debian :)22:46
k1lXYZAFFA1R: ask that in ##linux (and you are still root)22:46
kontagiousi installed unity-gnome and it still didnt work. i will try the  addational-driver tool22:46
Dr_WillisXYZAFFA1R,  i sugest you use ubuntu, not mint22:46
akhilleussera a tutti22:46
k1lat least he should no use puppy with root :)22:46
XYZAFFA1Rdr_willis, Why22:46
OerHeksharumph, join the clup, silverlight nor moonlight, (i cannot test netflix in EU.)22:46
jason_hudsonakhilleus, quello è #ubuntu-it22:46
Dr_WillisXYZAFFA1R,  because this is Ubuntu support..   I imagine mint support will say use mint.. I dont see much point in using mint at all.22:47
kontagiousjason_hudson, where are the open source drivers located? if its in ubuntu software center they didnt work :(22:47
jason_hudsonkontagious, you should see them in the software centre yeah.22:47
Ari-Yangkontagious, what driver are you using? fglrx (the proprietary one?) or the open source one?22:47
wilee-nileekontagious, Unity-gnome, what is the original install?22:47
XYZAFFA1RDR_willis, So you are saying that based on the channel? Can you give me an actual reason?22:47
kontagiousright now i am formatting with a fresh 13.04 desktop default install22:47
OerHeksXYZAFFA1R, Mint has its own issues.22:48
Ari-Yangby the sound of those glitches, kontagious I'm thinking you're using the proprietary one, which you're bound to run into glitches22:48
Dr_WillisXYZAFFA1R,  count the # of people in the support channel.. and see who has the most people.. If you want to use mint then GO use it.. decide for yourself22:48
Ari-Yangkontagious, are you running on a desktop or a laptop?22:48
k1l!best | XYZAFFA1R22:48
ubottuXYZAFFA1R: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.22:48
kontagiousAri-Yang, desktop22:48
Dr_WillisXYZAFFA1R,  we dont really want Mint discussions cluttering up this UBUNTU support channel.22:48
Dako300I cannot get ubuntu 12.04 to boot into X with my Radeon X1600 card. It has a segmentation fault at address 0xc. whenever I try and run sudo startx.22:48
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Ari-Yangkontagious, what card?22:49
tom2test22:49
Naphatulwhy don't you just go and try both of them and see which one you like the most?22:49
XYZAFFA1RDr_Willis, It is ubuntu related, I am asking whats better.22:49
wilee-nileekontagious, Is this search fro drivers a thing you thik you need to do or is there any actual problem with a stock install?22:49
Dr_WillisXYZAFFA1R,  its not really Ubuntu SUPPORT related.22:49
harumphwhat if i ask the same question and sub in mint for ubuntu. i'm sure the solution will be identical.22:49
reisioXYZAFFA1R: ever seen the film Multiplicity?22:49
tom2it worked22:49
PyR3XHow can I get OSS support? I'm trying to play an old game that requires it22:49
XYZAFFA1Rreisio, No22:49
kontagiouswilee-nilee, when i dont have drviers, my hdmi port doesnt work22:49
reisioXYZAFFA1R: too bad, perfect analogy :p22:49
Dr_WillisPyR3X, what game?22:49
k1lXYZAFFA1R: you are spoiling the ubuntu support channel with mint offtopic22:49
PyR3XDr_Willis: quake222:49
reisioPyR3X: lsmod | grep -i oss22:49
voxadmFor some reason I can't seem to mount a cifs share. The share is on my Windows 7 workstation and the system I'm trying mount from is an up-to-date VM running on the Win7 host. I'm an admin on the Win7 box and have root on the Debian VM. Whenever I run "sudo mount -t cifs -o username=adam //DROGON/share /mnt" I get "mount error(13): Permission denied".22:50
Ari-Yangkontagious, personally I recommend you just stick with the open source radeon driver....22:50
PyR3Xreisio: returns nothing22:50
kontagiousAri-Yang, that is  addational-driver tool?22:50
Dr_WillisPyR3X,  there are rewriten updated quake2 engines i recall that dont need the oss stuff.  and give better gfx.22:50
Naphatulvoxadm: you're not supplying a password22:50
Dr_WillisPyR3X,  askubuntu.com may have a guide on getting the old quake working also.22:50
PyR3XDr_Willis: I'm somewhat of an old school player and require a certain client (R1Q2) that I built from source and still requires it22:50
harumph hi all - my goal is to watch netflix on my netbook. i'm running22:50
harumph  ubuntu. using wine for silverlight doesn't work for me - slows22:50
harumph  things down too much. since the ubuntu forums are down, i'm finding22:50
harumph  promising google search returns that i can't see. has there been any22:50
wilee-nileekontagious, http://askubuntu.com/questions/285920/no-sound-through-hdmi-out-13-0422:50
FloodBot1harumph: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:50
harumph  movement on silverlight for linux?22:51
Dr_WillisPyR3X,  alsa is suposed to have oss support built in. but it may need to be enabled these days22:51
wilee-nileekontagious, seems to be a kernel issue?22:51
Dr_Willisharumph,  i thoiught silverlight was basically being killed off. :) what do you need it for22:51
kontagiouswilee-nilee, i got the video and sound working, untill i restarted the computer then no video or sound22:51
PyR3XDr_Willis: I had a hack before where I would "echo quake2 0 0 direct" into /proc/asound/pcm/pcm0p/oss" but oss does not exist22:51
Ari-Yangkontagious, yes, it's the default. go to software sources and go to the 'Additional Drivers' tab, at least that's where it is on 12.10. check this screen shot http://gyazo.com/aef04800f93347ea7a193b257be0996622:51
harumphDr_Willis, netflix22:51
Dr_Willisharumph,  its allredy been done on ubuntu. :)22:51
Dr_Willis!netflix | harumph22:51
ubottuharumph: If you use Netflix, there is an unofficial solution for using it in Ubuntu detailed in http://www.compholio.com/netflix-desktop/ - bug reports in https://bugs.launchpad.net/netflix-desktop22:51
kontagiousAri-Yang, thanks ill try that22:52
reisioharumph: Wine should work alright, there're some things you can do to increase performance, though22:52
Dr_Willisthat netflix on ubuntu has a tweaked wine, silverlight, and firefox  i belive in it..22:52
Dako300I cannot get ubuntu 12.04 to boot into X with my Radeon X1600 card. It has a segmentation fault at address 0xc whenever I try and run sudo startx.22:52
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harumphreisio, what do you suggest to increase performance?22:53
Dako300any help would be nice22:53
Dr_WillisDako300,  dont run startx with sudo. would be a good idea.22:53
Dr_WillisDako300,  tell the channel what video driver you are using also..22:53
Dako300I am using the radeon driver supplied with ubuntu 12.0422:54
Dr_WillisDako300,  tried the fglrx driver from the addational-drivers tool/tab yet?22:54
Dako300I will try that now.22:54
EpicCyndaquilis there another channel dedicated to ubuntu server?22:55
voxadmNaphatul: I enter my password when I'm prompted for it. "Password for adam@//DROGON/share:"22:55
Ari-Yangkontagious, after you select a driver, you'll have to restart your computer22:55
reisioharumph: I've found just giving it a second and using fullscreen helps a lot22:55
xanguaEpicCyndaquil: #ubuntu-server22:55
Naphatulvoxadm: are you entering the password for the windows machine?22:55
reisioharumph: if you're using Unity... it might help to use something else that isn't accelerated22:55
wilee-nileeDako300, More info. http://askubuntu.com/questions/159531/any-chance-for-fully-working-x1600-pci-e-id-71c3-unity-under-ubuntu-12-0422:55
voxadmNaphatul: Yep.22:55
Ari-Yangbe careful with fglrx, I've seen people try it and were unable to start x after installing it kontagious (and Dako300), just make sure you get it from the ubuntu repo (like from the Additional Drivers tool or sudo apt-get install fglrx or fglrx-updates)22:56
draconushello folks22:56
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k1lyou shouldnt "startx" but start the dm instead (like sudo start lightdm)22:57
reisio'lo draconus22:57
draconusnice to see you around again, reisio :)22:57
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harumphreisio: thanks, i'll look into that.22:57
reisioisn't it!22:57
amanda_ktrism: shit. is it worth mentioning that im running this in a virtualbox/ vagrant box?22:58
Dako300_I try and start lightdm but it will not let me log into anything22:58
PyR3XWhen I run "padsp ./quake2" I get "Sorry but your sound card doesn't support this"22:58
Dr_WillisDako300,  clarify what you mean by that22:58
Dako300_it just loops back to the login screen22:58
k1lDako300: so you see the login screen?22:58
amanda_kmaybe thats why the fs events are not being passes up ?22:58
Dako300_yes22:58
k1lDako300: then take a look into the .xsession-errors22:58
Dr_WillisDako300,  so your user session crashes back to the lightm login screen.22:58
k1l(in home that is)22:58
Dr_WillisDako300,  does the guest account work? add a new user - see if that account works22:59
draconuswould you happen to know how to forward traffic on certain port from one IP to another on the same, multihomed host?22:59
For-Odinanyone know how to fix console (virtual tty) text alignment? my text is shifted left a few characters and cant see my username...22:59
Dako300_I know it doesnt work because when I try it on a ubuntu live CD it complains that it needs to run in low graphics mode and when I click OK everything crashes22:59
Dr_WillisDako300_,  if the LIGHTDM login screen is working.. then X is working.22:59
Dr_WillisDako300_,  its possible its a user setting issue causing problems. thus the Guest user, and new user test  may pinpoint the issue23:00
Dako300_FYI: This is a fresh install23:00
draconus2damn got d/c23:00
Dr_WillisDako300_,  and you have been running 'sudo startx' that may goof up the users settings.. so again. I suggest trying the GUEST user, and adding a new user. and verify that they both fail to work also23:01
Naphatulvoxadm: make sure that the username is just 'adam'23:02
Dako300_I have a 2 GPU setup (the BIOS boots from a TNT2 since it cannot POST with only the X1600) and I forgot to change it back. When I actually change it to the X1600, I get a blank screen with the radeon driver23:03
EpicCyndaquilI've followed a few guides on setting up dovecot and postfix, but I can't seem to get it right. Does anyone with experience with mailservers have any suggestions?23:03
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XYZAFFA1RI have a windows 8 laptop, and I want to use wubi, is there a way to do it?23:04
Dako300_Whenever I try and modprobe the fglrx driver, it says that it cannot find a card23:04
Dako300_I will reboot and see if that helps23:05
XYZAFFA1RI have a windows 8 laptop, and I want to use wubi, is there a way to do it?23:05
Dr_WillisXYZAFFA1R,  wubi is worth avoiding at all cost. and i dont think it works with windows 823:06
k1lXYZAFFA1R: make a real install. wubi is very flaky and is hard to support23:06
XYZAFFA1ROk23:06
reisioeven if wubi weren't flaky, NTFS would be :p23:06
XYZAFFA1RI have had some trouble with partitioning in the past23:06
XYZAFFA1RI kinda screwed a hard drive once23:06
reisioXYZAFFA1R: backup first :)23:06
Dr_Willisif you want to toy with ubuntu in the least destuctive way. play with it in virtualbox23:07
Dr_Willisor use an external usb hd or flash drive.23:07
reisiopish, destruction ftw23:07
k1lXYZAFFA1R: if you wnat to test without harming your hdd try a live-cd/usb23:07
niko_beilicI'm having trouble install Ubuntu 13.04 on my PC, I've got Windows on a H.D.D23:07
XYZAFFA1RI used ubuntu for a year23:07
XYZAFFA1RI know I want it again23:07
reisioniko_beilic: what trouble?23:07
XYZAFFA1RI like puppy but23:07
XYZAFFA1RI want ubuntu23:07
reisiobut puppy has no purpose :)23:07
XYZAFFA1RIts purpose, is that its better than windows23:08
niko_beilicreisio: the bootloader is failing to install23:08
Dr_Williscomparing Puppylinux to ubuntu is like comparing a model airplane to the space shuttle. ;)23:08
reisioXYZAFFA1R: that's like everything's purpose, though :p23:08
XYZAFFA1RSo, How do i back this up?23:08
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Dr_WillisXYZAFFA1R,  back 'what' up?23:08
reisioXYZAFFA1R: well well well23:08
XYZAFFA1RCan I back up a 320 gig hdd onto a 720 meg disk?23:09
XYZAFFA1RMy hdd23:09
reisioXYZAFFA1R: is there anything you've added to your Windows installation that you can't live without?23:09
XYZAFFA1RNo23:09
XYZAFFA1RI dont care about my windows shit23:09
reisiogood, that makes it easier23:09
XYZAFFA1RPArdon my language23:09
reisiodo you ever want to use Windows again?23:09
Dr_Willisid be sure to make a proper windows dvd restore/recovery disk set first.23:09
jason_hudsonXYZAFFA1R, it's called feces.23:09
reisio...23:09
Dr_Willisbecause you may just need them...23:09
XYZAFFA1RHow do I make a back up cd?23:10
reisioburning DVDs is so awful23:10
XYZAFFA1RI dont even know how :)23:10
reisioif your laptop isn't terrible it has a recovery _partition_23:10
reisiowhich you can backup instead of making DVDs23:10
XYZAFFA1Ryes it dose23:10
Dr_Willisyour windows guides/help for your laptop - should have info on making a set and a tool23:10
reisioXYZAFFA1R: know how large it is?23:10
Dako300I tried the reboot and still getting no data from the card. When I try and modprobe fglrx (radeon driver is not up), it still says that no display adapetrs were found23:10
Dr_WillisI make up DVDS because often i remove the partion for linux. ;)23:10
Dr_Willisor move out the HD.23:10
XYZAFFA1RI will check one seck23:10
reisioI refuse to deal with Windows anymore, it's easier that way :)23:11
reisioand saves space on the backups drives23:11
Dr_Willisnew laptop -> get me a ssd for it.. remove windows hd.. keep it somewhere safe.. use linux on the ssd. ;)23:11
XYZAFFA1RI have 4 partitions23:11
XYZAFFA1R2 vfat23:11
XYZAFFA1Rand 2ntsf23:11
niko_beilicreisio: i have 2 working HDD's on is a blank which I will be installingUbuntu 13.04 and the second hdd is windows23:11
XYZAFFA1RObviously windows is the 297 gig23:11
zipywhen i mount a device into home, are all files in home not reachable anymore or will they merge the home files and the hdd files23:11
reisioniko_beilic: so the installer finished, but it won't boot?23:11
XYZAFFA1RSO I think its 492 meg23:12
Dr_Williszipy,  mountpoints dont 'merge'23:12
niko_beilicreisio: nope it's just failing to install GRUB23:12
reisioXYZAFFA1R: probably you can just backup all but the largest partition, and that'll get you the recovery stuff, should you need it23:12
reisioXYZAFFA1R: but please don't quote me on that :p23:12
Dr_Williszipy,  if you mount /dev/sda1 to /home/ it will take over /home/23:12
zipyDr_Willis, ok thanks23:12
XYZAFFA1RI accidently saved my puppy files in my restore partition, is that going to be a problem?23:13
reisioniko_beilic: grub is usually installed near the end is why I ask23:13
Dr_WillisXYZAFFA1R,  safest bet would be to figure out what app your pc has to make a restore dvd set.. and make the set.23:13
XYZAFFA1Rok23:13
XYZAFFA1RI accidently saved my puppy files in my restore partition, is that going to be a problem?23:13
Dr_WillisXYZAFFA1R,   puppy just looks for them.. nothing else will care.23:13
Dako300I think that the fglrx driver is too new for my card.23:13
XYZAFFA1RDr_willis, ok23:13
XYZAFFA1Rbrb23:13
niko_beilicreisio: the setup was nearly done, then a error comes up saying "This is a fatal error"23:14
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niko_beilicreisio: when it was trying to install GRUB (bootloader) towards the end of the install23:14
reisioright23:14
reisioI'm not sure what if anything is after that23:14
th0rSomeone should tell XYZAFFA1R he won't be able to get warranty support if anything besides Win8 is on the hd23:14
Dako300Can anyone help23:14
reisioyou could potentially just fix grub manually and it'd work23:14
reisioth0r: that's what the backup is for23:15
Dr_Willisbackup the backups!23:15
nightwalkanyone know off the top of their head what the hostname(s) are that oneconf accesses?23:16
XYZAFFA1RI am back23:17
niko_beilicreisio: when it was trying to install GRUB (bootloader) towards the end of the install?23:17
guzzlefryWhat a sensible drive size for an Ubuntu Server install using Gnome and running a LAMP stack and possible a few other random things?23:17
guzzlefryNon-production.23:18
XYZAFFA1RSo will the recovery cd app have a burner?23:18
XYZAFFA1RI have a burner23:18
XYZAFFA1RBut not software for it23:18
guzzlefryActually, maybe I should ask in #ubuntu-server. :P23:18
wilee-nileeniko_beilic, The bootrepair app has a bootinfo summary you can run that shows a lot of info you can run just it and post the url if you like.23:18
XYZAFFA1Rwindows doesnt come with it23:18
reisioguzzlefry: 5-10GB23:18
reisioguzzlefry: once you put GNOME on it, it's basically a desktop install23:18
reisioguzzlefry: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements says 5 is the low end23:18
reisioniko_beilic: find out if any other install things happen after grub23:19
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reisioniko_beilic: if not, you can boot your install media and come back here and we can fix it23:19
niko_beilicwilee-nilee: there is nothing wrong with the OS as I said to reisio is failing to install GRUB could Windows be stopping it from installing GRUB23:20
XYZAFFA1RDr_willis, They already sent me a usb and disk recovery media23:20
Computron_hi23:20
XYZAFFA1RDr_willis, it says: Operating system already installed on your computer, windows 8 Recovery media for windows 8 products 64-bit23:21
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reisioniko_beilic: more likely the automagickal grub stuff is just failing for your particular situation23:22
wilee-nileeniko_beilic, Right, do what you want, personally I would use the script to knock out the variables. With uefi and gpt being part of OS, all it takes is remnants of a gpt to cause this, the script will show this, it is the only way I know.23:22
reisioluckily it's not that complicated to do manually23:22
wilee-nileeyeah grub is an easy fix though23:22
XYZAFFA1RDr_willis, is that right? If I screw up the partitioning can I use this to fix it?23:22
XYZAFFA1RDr_willis, are you there?23:23
XYZAFFA1RIs d willi still there?23:23
reisioXYZAFFA1R:23:23
XYZAFFA1R?23:23
reisioXYZAFFA1R: if they sent you a recovery disk, and you have the license key or whatever23:23
reisiothat should be enough23:23
niko_beilicwilee-nilee & reisio Windows is NTFS and Ubuntu is GRUB23:24
reisioniko_beilic: not sure what you're trying to articulate with that :)23:24
XYZAFFA1Rthats is why partition!23:24
reisioniko_beilic: if you want to boot up your install media and do 'try' instead of 'install' and come back here, we can fix grub if that's all that's wrong23:24
trismamanda_k: I'm really not sure at this point23:25
wilee-nileeI put 10$ on some gpt thang23:25
wilee-nileeand 20 on users error23:25
XYZAFFA1RSo, how do I go about partitioning my hdd? I have the live cd23:26
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Dr_WillisXYZAFFA1R,  the installer has  options to delete everything and install ubuntu. if you want to whipe the whole hd23:27
XYZAFFA1RDr_willis, I am not doing that,23:27
rannongatheres also the something else option23:27
Dr_WillisXYZAFFA1R,  then you use the other options.. i suggest you have backups of imporntant stuff first23:28
XYZAFFA1RThere is a partitioning option23:28
rannongathen you can just resize the partitions through there23:28
XYZAFFA1RI have the cd23:28
XYZAFFA1RIsnt that all I need?23:28
rannongayeah its in the cd23:28
Dr_WillisBackup imporntant stuff to some other location, use the installer to resize or perhaps delete the recovery partion if you need space. and make a ubuntu partion to install to23:28
XYZAFFA1RHow do I make it let me choose ubuntu or windows on start up?23:29
reisioXYZAFFA1R: if you're confident you have a DVD with all you need to reinstall Windows, you can just tell the Ubuntu install media to use the whole disk, wiping out existing data23:29
reisioat least, barring any UEFI nonsense :p23:29
reisioI don't know about that stuff23:29
reisioXYZAFFA1R: should do that by default, if you keep Windows23:29
XYZAFFA1Rok23:29
XYZAFFA1RUm23:29
XYZAFFA1RI wish some one could be there to help :/23:30
rannongathat seems a bit excessive considering that there is no secureboot23:30
reisioXYZAFFA1R: we're right here :p23:30
Dr_Willisboot installer.. click install along side windows.. see if it works..23:30
reisiorannonga: what does?23:30
XYZAFFA1RDr_willis, I dont think that works23:30
rannongawiping the windows partition23:31
Dr_WillisXYZAFFA1R,  how do you know?  thats whats most people use.23:31
XYZAFFA1RDr_willis, I dont know23:31
Dr_Willispersonally id use a new seperate hard drive. :) but thats bcasue i always want to use ssd's for my linux installs.. they are soooooo much faster23:31
Dr_Willisbest $100 investment ive ever made23:31
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rannongaI would just boot into windows, download a partition software create the partions then reboot and manually install to the new partition23:32
XYZAFFA1RI am going to use the ubuntu partition stuff.23:32
rannongak23:32
Dr_Williswindows is faster at resizeing the windows paritons ive noticed.23:32
XYZAFFA1RAnd I have $.7 Not $10023:32
Dr_Willissell your laptop. ;)23:33
XYZAFFA1RGenious23:33
XYZAFFA1RAnd I am tired of waiting23:33
mikodoXYZAFFA1R, Which version of Windows do you have?23:33
reisioif it's not fragmented, and it shouldn't be, the likelihood the resize will be fast and bug free is pretty high23:33
XYZAFFA1R823:33
Dr_Willisif you got stuff backed up.. and dont care for the risk.. try the install alongside option and see if it work23:33
rannongaIt would be very easy then23:33
reisioafter you resize, before you install Ubuntu, reboot back into Windows and let it fsck23:33
XYZAFFA1ROf course its fragmented23:33
XYZAFFA1Rits windows23:33
reisiowell, Windows constantly defrags by default these days23:34
rannongahow much have you used of it?23:34
Dr_Willishave windows defrag first if you are worried about it.23:34
reisioit's not as elegant as not being fragmented in the first place, but it's better than it was23:34
Dr_Willisreisio,  and you get to hear your windows machines running all night long defragging! ;P23:34
reisioyessir :p23:34
reisiogreat way to kill hardware, Windows23:34
rannongabeautiful23:34
reisiooh, time to reboot again23:34
reisiooh, time to reboot again23:35
reisio:p23:35
FloodBot1reisio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:35
reisioFloodBot1: you flood more than anyone :p23:35
XYZAFFA1RI checked today its at 25% fragmented, and I cant defrag, I have to let it do it itself :/23:35
reisioXYZAFFA1R: I haven't checked in 8, but you should still be able to tell it to23:35
asdf1234Does anyone know if I can create a custom sort method for Nautilus? E.g. by day of week (Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday) etc?23:35
Dr_Willis'cant defrag'  ? why cant you? theres numerous defragging tools for windows23:35
XYZAFFA1RIt wont let me23:35
zerodividedHello, I just tried to install AMD video drivers using sudo apt-get install fglrx. Now my dual montiors stuck in mirrored mode and I have the usupported hardware watermark. I have an HD 587023:35
wilee-nileeXYZAFFA1R, How full is the windows partition?23:35
reisioasdf1234: it's open source, so you can even if it isn't easy :)23:35
reisioasdf1234: monday, tuseday, wednesday?23:36
reisioXYZAFFA1R: #windows would know about that23:36
zerodividedAlthough the game I was trying to get to work started working =)23:36
XYZAFFA1RI think I have 206 gigs free of 29723:36
asdf1234reisio: I guess my question is more, HOW would I do that?23:36
wilee-nileecool23:36
reisioasdf1234: monday, tuseday, wednesday?23:36
asdf1234reisio: Yes. I want my folders sorted by day of week.23:36
rannongaXYZ: that should easily be enough23:36
Dr_Williszerodivided,  tried that ati control center tool. or watever its called these days amdccl or somthing like that.23:36
XYZAFFA1RI think just give linux 100 gigs?23:36
XYZAFFA1RIs that enough?23:36
Dr_Williszerodivided,  the water mark. ive seen info on askubuntu.com about removeing that23:37
zerodividedDr_Willis, ok Ill try it out23:37
rannongaXYZ: yeah should be fine i think23:37
Dr_WillisXYZAFFA1R,  depends on what you want to do with ubuntu.23:37
reisioXYZAFFA1R: 30GB Is more than enough23:37
rannongaXYZ: just dont download too much HD movies23:37
reisiotook me years of system bloating to fill up 30GB with OS data23:37
Dr_Willisone reason ssd's and ubuntu work well. :)  Ubuntu dosent need the huge space windows does.23:37
reisiobetter FSes23:38
rannongaXYZ: to be honest I would try ubuntu and use gparted23:39
Dr_WillisChicks dig guys that use Ubuntu. ;)23:39
kontagiousAri-Yang, i have installed additional drivers from software center and it doesnt show my tv as a display and thinks my monitor is a laptop display23:39
XYZAFFA1Rwhat is gparted23:39
Dr_Willis!gparted23:39
ubottugparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php23:39
rannongaXYZ: it comes on the live cd23:39
XYZAFFA1RCant I just use the partition tool that is on the cd?23:40
rannongaXYZ: yeah that is gparted23:40
XYZAFFA1Roh ok23:40
reisiowell, gparted is one frontend to what the installer probably uses for partitioning: parted23:40
rannongaXYZ: you just need to go to something else the bottom option then resize your windows partition23:40
reisiogparted being the one a human being would be more likely to use23:40
XYZAFFA1RSo, I go in, resize windows partition, make a new partition with the empty space, and install ubuntu on that?23:40
rannongaXYZ: yes23:40
reisioXYZAFFA1R: ubuntu can make the partition itself, just resize23:41
XYZAFFA1RIts that easy?23:41
reisioand reboot to Windows to see if it still works23:41
rannongaXYZ: create a ext4 then mount it as root23:41
XYZAFFA1RAfter I install ubuntu?23:41
Dr_Willisthe installer can automate that.. thats what 'install along side windows' does23:41
XYZAFFA1Rwhat is ext4?23:41
zerodividedSo the option in amdcccle to turn off display cloning is grayed out. Any ideas?23:41
reisioXYZAFFA1R: resize, reboot to windows see if it works, reboot to install media, install Ubuntu23:41
rannongaXYZ: the file type that ubuntu uses23:41
XYZAFFA1Rok23:41
reisioXYZAFFA1R: ext4 is the standard FS for GNU/Linux systems these days23:41
rannongaXYZ: yeah\23:41
reisioit's like NTFS, but not nearly as awful23:41
zerodividedwait i think i know what to do23:42
zerodividedsudo!!!23:42
reisiozerodivided: yay23:42
rannongaXYZ: the benefit of manual is you can choose the size you want23:42
XYZAFFA1RSo, one person please, and stop confuzing, I resize windows partition, open windows make sure it works, then install ubuntu on the open space?23:42
zerodividedyeah that was it23:42
rannongaxyz: precisely23:42
XYZAFFA1RThat simple?23:42
XYZAFFA1RNo more to it?23:42
reisioXYZAFFA1R: precisely23:42
rannongaXYZ: yes23:42
XYZAFFA1ROk Uber23:42
reisioXYZAFFA1R: most likely23:42
Dr_WillisXYZAFFA1R,  you will install ubuntu into the UNALLOCATED space left over from the resizeing. and you will want 2 partions, one for / and one for swap23:42
XYZAFFA1Rwhats the swap?23:43
Dr_WillisXYZAFFA1R,  once you resize. you can reboot and restart the installer and it should automatically partion the unallocated space as needed. making a / and a swap23:43
XYZAFFA1RSo it does it for me?23:43
Dr_Willis'install alongside windows' SHOULD automatically resize and make the 2 partions23:43
XYZAFFA1Rok23:43
XYZAFFA1RI will just do that23:43
ranticAnyone mind letting a newbie know the proper way to switch windows in Unity, is it really to just alt + tab or is there something similar to the peek in gnome 3?23:43
XYZAFFA1RI will be back after to tell you how it all works out23:44
XYZAFFA1RBye!23:44
XYZAFFA1RThank you23:44
XYZAFFA1RAnything else?23:44
Dr_Willisrantic,  theres alternative windows-switcher plugins for compiz.     then theres the expose plugin and so forth23:44
rannongaXYZ: no it should work23:44
XYZAFFA1RBye then23:44
Dr_Willisrantic,  explore the 'ccsm' tool to play with the others23:44
reisiorantic: the top left corner doesn't do anything?23:45
trismamanda_k: are you using a shared folder (with the host?)23:46
trismamanda_k: I noticed http://serverfault.com/questions/453826/vagrant-shared-folder-and-file-change-events23:46
trismamanda_k: although it wouldn't explain why it works when you run coffee manually23:47
sp00kyI'm using 12.04 and for some reason over about the past week my wireless speeds have become very slow regardless of the wireless network used.  Has anyone experienced anything similar?23:47
reisioturn off your torrent client23:47
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osx5hey is there a channel to talk about Ubuntu phone?23:49
mikodoDr_Willis, I am putting in a SSD for boot and /root installs of multiple linux distros, with a larger platter for symlinking my DATA to the /mnt in each / install. Data on platter drive will be docs/muisic/pics/videos/ . I plan to install Xubuntu (different versions, including testing Alpha/Beta's), Debian Wheezy Xfce and maybe a few other small distros. HOW much should I allocate per partition install of each Root? Would 15 GB for each23:49
mikodo be enough? ... Thanks.23:49
reisio/msg alis list *ubunt*23:49
Dr_Willismikodo,  15gb may be to small to do any real work. :) but it depends on the actual jobs you are doing. you may want to put swap and any tmp dirs on the   non-ssd drives as well23:50
mikodoDr_Willis, Thank you!23:50
afflictoAnyone have problems with flickering video and HTML5/css3 stuff?23:51
DWSR!ddrescue23:51
phong_good morning guys23:51
goddardwhere is my sftp mounts if looking from the command line?23:52
goddardim using nautilus23:52
jason_hudsonI have a question, I'm not too sure it would fit this channel's topic but it is Ubuntu related. Does "DNE" on Ubuntu's security advisories mean "Does Not Exist"?23:53
trismgoddard: /run/user/username/gvfs/ in recent ubuntus23:54
XYZAFFA1RInstall along side windows isnt an option23:55
rannongaXYZ: I'm assuming the partitioning was successful?23:55
usr13Dr_Willis: I think he's talking about 15G just for /23:55
Dr_Willismost likely because you have 4 partitions allready. and you may need to remove one or more of them23:55
XYZAFFA1RReally?23:55
usr13Dr_Willis: And having /home/ on another partition.  Right?23:56
Dr_Willis4 primary partion limit.23:56
XYZAFFA1RIs there any that are unimportant?23:56
kontagious"this driver is activated but not in use"23:56
Dr_WillisXYZAFFA1R,  the system recovery partion --- IF You have a backup DVD set23:56
kontagioushey im trying to use jockey to install drivers but its not working23:56
XYZAFFA1RI cant task that risk23:56
rannongaXYZ: I think you should really do it manually23:56
XYZAFFA1RIs there another way?23:56
Dr_Williswindows 8 uses a boot partion, and its own actual work partion.  no idea what the other 2 are. one may be a recovery boot partion, and the last the actual recovery data partion23:56
Dr_WillisXYZAFFA1R,  if you have a dvd recovery set.. then you can revovery from it if needed23:57
kontagiouswhen i open jockey it says "NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernal module and VDPAU library"23:57
XYZAFFA1RI dont know if they work.23:57
Dr_Willisyou said you had a set. and a usb recovery thing23:57
kontagiousi am using ati not nvidea23:57
Dr_Willisboot them and see perhaps?23:57
XYZAFFA1RNo23:57
Dr_WillisYour HD can die at any time.. so you better hope they work ;)23:57
w30goddard, I make a symboic link named sammy to my /run/user/kolklay/gvfs gor my convience23:57
w30gor/for23:58
XYZAFFA1RI would have to delete the recovery partition to see if they work that way23:58
klineis there a known reason behind dd (or usb) slowing down on long operations?23:58
usr13kontagious: "Jockey has been replaced with ubuntu-drivers-common and software-properties"23:58
kontagiousthanks usr13 i will try it23:59

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