[00:00] <Kalimdor> just changed now
[00:00] <floogy> Hi, I  got issues with ubuntu one. It seems that I'm no longer able to publish files.
[00:00] <zykotick9> Kalimdor: are you rebooting, or restarting lightdm to test?
[00:01] <floogy> Neither with the webui nor with a right click. I'm on 12.04
[00:01] <poz> hi guys, quick question. If I upgrade from 12.04 to 13.04, will i loss my currently installed programs/settings?
[00:01] <zykotick9> floogy: there is a ubuntuone channel, probably #ubuntuone
[00:01] <poz> or is it seemless, as if i wouldnt even notice?
[00:01] <SonikkuAmerica> !flavors
[00:01] <kernsprog> poz: no you won't.
[00:01] <niranjan> #/openwrt
[00:02] <zipy> sudo mount -o loop,ro,offset=71680 /media/truecrypt1/bkp/pi/bkp_xbian.img /media/bkp <- i need filesystem type, how can i add it -ot? and where do i put the type
[00:02] <floogy> zykotick9, thanks
[00:02] <poz> kernsprog, no i won't, what?
[00:02] <kernsprog> poz: i answered your question.
[00:02] <floogy> poz, it's not intended to lost configurations on upgrade.
[00:02] <Kalimdor> zykotick9: brb reboot
[00:02] <zykotick9> Kalimdor: just restart lightdm!
[00:02] <poz> oh okay
[00:03] <poz> so whats the code to upgrade from 12.04 to 13.04?
[00:03] <kernsprog> poz: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:03] <zykotick9> kernsprog: WRONG!!!
[00:03] <zykotick9> !dist-upgrad3e
[00:03] <zykotick9> !dist-upgrade
[00:03] <zykotick9> !upgrade
[00:04] <noTch> zykotick9: here
[00:04] <kernsprog> right, sorry my bad. lol
[00:04] <zipy> sudo mount -o loop,ro,offset=71680 /media/truecrypt1/bkp/pi/bkp_xbian.img /media/bkp <- i need filesystem type, how can i add it -ot? and where do i put the type
[00:04] <kernsprog> because i never upgrade.
[00:05] <zykotick9> kernsprog: ummm, if you never use dist-upgrade on your boxes, how do you deal with kernel updates/etc?  do you use the gui as well ;)
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> kernsprog, You will go through 12.10, now you have to ask yourself is it worth it. ;)
[00:05] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: i think poz is upgrading ;)
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> good muhhahha
[00:05] <kernsprog> zykotick9: i do dist-upgrade yes. but not upgrade distro versions.
[00:06] <kernsprog> zykotick9: i use gui, yes. why do you ask that?
[00:06] <Proxywars_> This is the error report: http://pastebin.com/JBKbh62P
[00:07] <zykotick9> kernsprog: k ... just checkin'  'cause dist-upgrade is the equivalent text command for upgrading a system to the GUI updater.  dist-upgrade is very misunderstood, it's actually the exact same as full-upgrade alias in aptitude at least]
[00:07] <poz> wilee-nilee, why is that good?
[00:07] <Kalimdor> zykotick9: reloged
[00:08] <kernsprog> zykotick9: correct. i know that. i don't use the gui updater. i don't even have it installed. i removed it out.
[00:09] <Kalimdor> zykotick9: login, didnt get a change
[00:09] <zykotick9> kernsprog: ahhh, doesn't that break the ubuntu-desktop (and probably all the others as well) metapackage?  be warned, you need that to update to new versions...
[00:09] <poz> wilee-nilee, do I really have to upgrade to 12.10 to get to 13.04?
[00:09] <poz> so basically 12.04
[00:10] <zykotick9> poz: yes - you can't skip releases (with the LTS->LTS exception)
[00:10] <poz> so basically 12.04 ---> 12.10 --> 13.04
[00:10] <kernsprog> zykotick9: admittedly, i don't have ubuntu-desktop installed. i have no issues.
[00:10] <Kalimdor> zykotick9: only after the login both monitors changes to 1024x768
[00:10] <zykotick9> kernsprog: just be aware you can't go to the next ubuntu release without at least one *-desktop installed ;)
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> poz, For me it is a time thing, I have a save system so I always fresh install, takes about a half hour to have it all the same.
[00:11] <poz> zykotick9, is that difficult to do from your experience?
[00:11] <kernsprog> zykotick9: if i have to update versions, i just reinstall. i have a seriously hacked elementaryOS desktop. understand, my system is not your everday ubuntu system. highly customized behind the scenes.
[00:12] <zykotick9> Kalimdor: seriously?  then it's something is your user account settings - I have NO clue for you... sorry.  At this point, I'm chalking this one up to an ubuntu issue i can't deal with ;)  sorry man/woman/person... best of luck.
[00:12] <americo> http://ubottu.com/y/dl
[00:12] <zykotick9> poz: when i ran ubuntu, i never updated.  i'd always fresh install (a lot of others do this as well).
[00:12] <poz> i see
[00:13] <floogy> zykotick9, In #ubuntuone nobody seems to answer that question.  Maybe someone here knows how to publish a synced file in u1 http://askubuntu.com/questions/309448/publish-a-file-fails-cannot-access-web-link-a-file-is-no-longer-published
[00:13] <Kalimdor> zykotick9: i guess something like ARandR or ... is the main problem
[00:14] <zykotick9> floogy: i have 0 interest in helping with an u1 issue.  but typically not a lot of people in #ubuntu know either (not as bad as wubi, but you get my idea).  i pointed you to the other channel in hopes someone there would hear your plea and have an "idea" of what to do.  'cause I sure don't!  good luck though (i did use u1 with 10.04 when it first came out ;)
[00:14] <Kalimdor> zykotick9: and they dont use xorg.conf, theres a "Display" on my Settings also
[00:15] <zykotick9> Kalimdor: did you install any gui frontends to xrandr?
[00:15] <shan> hi, i tried to install win98 and i lost all partitions except 1. what i did to install win98 is that i hide ntfs partition(primary/active). now i lost linux partition and few others. somehow i managed to recover one partition with data on it and there still another partition with important data. but i get error while recovering that partition.
[00:15] <shan> i think some sectors problem....
[00:15] <Kalimdor> zykotick9: is that compiz?
[00:15] <zykotick9> Kalimdor: no, like grandr (i'm sure there are others as well, kde stuff, etc.)
[00:16] <Kalimdor> zykotick9: i have only KDE ARandR and Gnome here ^_^
[00:16] <floogy> zykotick9, thank you anyway. Maybe somebody can give me a hint.
[00:16] <zykotick9> Kalimdor: KDE ARandR - i wonder if it's settings could be applied to your user account?  totally guess on my part.
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> shan, Not sure ubuntu support has any relevance, you did you the word linux not ubuntu.
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> use*
[00:17] <Kalimdor> zykotick9: i should check those thanks anyway
[00:17] <Kalimdor> zykotick9: good luck
[00:17] <shan> wilee-nilee | i mean ubuntu.
[00:18] <shan> wilee-nilee | i mostly call ubuntu/kubuntu/mint = linux. :p
[00:18] <SonikkuAmerica> !linux | shan
[00:18] <Guest24598> hello do anyone know a program i can download thats kinda like 7 zip but is on the software manager?
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> shan, we don't mint is not supported, most will suggest testdisk, NO backups eh?
[00:18] <zykotick9> shan: if you installed win98 onto the same drive as other OSes - i'd guess you deleted everything...
[00:19] <Guest21893> so, i've noticed (by continuously running netstat) that when you're connected to things and you pull the plug at the network manager level, those connections will prety much indefinitely stay 'established'; at least until you terminate the application that made them or use some other form of halting like pausing a download... (questions to follow)
[00:19] <Guest24598> hello can some one help me?!
[00:19] <saiarcot895> Guest24598: there is the Archive Manager that's installed by default
[00:19] <saiarcot895> Guest24598: also, be patient
[00:19] <Guest24598> but it does not work i tryed
[00:20] <Guest21893> so i'm wondering if you reestablish the connection.. on a vpn, and you've set up iptables to block the non-vpn stuff, does that lingering established connection leak information?
[00:20] <saiarcot895> Guest24598: in what way does it not work?
[00:20] <Guest24598> idk :/
[00:20] <shan> wilee-nilee | no space or alternate for the partition(unallocated space), it's almost half of whole parition.
[00:20] <saiarcot895> Guest21893: I think established connections stay established, so you could say yes
[00:21] <Guest24598> it just wont open tha files i need open :(
[00:21] <Guest24598> t?
[00:21] <shan> zykotick9 | i never succeeded to install win98 and lost paritition.
[00:21] <saiarcot895> Guest24598: what format is the file compressed in?
[00:21] <Guest24598> jar
[00:21] <zykotick9> shan: doesn't surpise me at all, but if win98 got to the partition stage - ohhhhhh
[00:21] <saiarcot895> Guest24598: I can right click on a jar file and select Open With > Archive Manager
[00:22] <saiarcot895> Guest24598: what version of Ubuntu are you on?
[00:22] <Guest21893> ok, so saiarcot895 or anyone else, is there any way to 'fix' that? so that connections actually lose establishment when the 'plug is pulled'
[00:22] <shan> zykotick9 | win98 have nothing to do with those spaces, it's coz of utility i used to hide NTFS.
[00:22] <Guest24598> one moment plz ummm peprmint
[00:22] <zykotick9> shan: check out testdisk for a linux partition recovery program (i've only used it's "photorec" program myself) - it's non-trivial, but might help?
[00:22] <joshu_> is there an official plugin for network manager to connect to a vpn via l2tp/ ipsec?
[00:22] <saiarcot895> Guest24598: peppermint?
[00:22] <joshu_> I can find plugins for openvpn and cisco ipsec, but not for l2tp/ipsec
[00:23] <shan> zykotick9 | i tried. it show some error.
[00:23] <joshu_> i'm on ubuntu 13.04
[00:23] <zykotick9> !info testdisk
[00:23] <punzilla> hi all, I need some assistance, last week I was able to use my Logitech usb cam as a microphone although I'm now unable to use this
[00:24] <saiarcot895> Guest21893: the only idea I have is killing the program that is using the connection
[00:24] <punzilla> it is not showing up as an input device in the "sound settings"
[00:24] <saiarcot895> Guest21893: of course, if the program is necessary for Ubuntu, well, killing it is not a good idea
[00:24] <saiarcot895> Guest24598: Peppermint OS?
[00:24] <punzilla> the lsusb command shows that it is connected...
[00:24] <punzilla> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:0990 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Pro 9000
[00:25] <Guest21893> saiarcot895: is there any command that would forcibly cause all established connections to terminate?
[00:26] <Guest24598> yea sry spelling
[00:26] <Guest24598> sry my Internet connection has been interrupted
[00:26] <Guest24598> ye
[00:27] <saiarcot895> Guest21893: tcpkill (see http://www.cyberciti.biz/howto/question/linux/kill-tcp-connection-using-linux-netstat.php for some examples)
[00:27] <saiarcot895> Guest24598: this is the Ubuntu support forum
[00:27] <saiarcot895> Guest24598: we don't support Peppermint OS
[00:28] <saiarcot895> Guest24598: they have a support forum at http://peppermintos.net/
[00:28] <shan> how to run testdisk from ubuntu? i'm using usb live....
[00:28] <Guest24598> ik
[00:28] <Guest24598> :(
[00:28] <Guest24598> k
[00:28] <Guest24598> ok thx
[00:28] <FloodBot1> Guest24598: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:29] <Guest24598> ?
[00:29] <Guest21893> saiarcot895: what if it's not tcp
[00:29] <saiarcot895> Guest21893: generally, connections to servers/websites will be tcp or udp
[00:30] <saiarcot895> Guest21893: if it's not tcp, cutter might work
[00:31] <saiarcot895> Guest21893: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/cutting-the-tcpip-network-connection-with-cutter.html
[00:36] <Foobar013> Hi! I did a minimal install and now that I boot the system I have no internet connection.
[00:38] <punzilla> Hi if I could get help on my webcam issue please.
[00:38] <punzilla> ubuntu is unable to detect it as a sound device.
[00:38] <punzilla> ie microphone device = does anyone know what I can do
[00:38] <punzilla> to have it detected.
[00:39] <zykotick9> punzilla: does alsa see it as a sound device?  "cat /proc/asound/cards"
[00:40] <PaintBucket> Hello, again
[00:40] <blazemore> Should an op put the Ubuntu Forums security breach announcement in the topic?
[00:41] <blazemore> Oh never mind, the entire site has been replaced with the message anyway
[00:41] <Foobar013> My wireless was set by the instalation in /etc/network/interfaces, but doesnt get an ip. I also tried giving it an static ip but yet no connection. Then I plugged ethernet and added it to that file, and also doesnt get an ip, nor workd with ststic
[00:41] <pfifo> Hi fellas
[00:42] <zykotick9> Foobar013: paste.ubuntu.com your interfaces file
[00:42] <recurs1ve> Hi  pfifo
[00:42] <PaintBucket> Anyone experienced with an odd issue of 13.04 having skipping/stuttering audio and video playback?
[00:43] <C130RG>  #idz2
[00:43] <punzilla> no it doesn't see it as a sound device.
[00:43] <punzilla> just a moment I'll pastebin it.
[00:43] <zykotick9> PaintBucket: if it's video - then graphics driver / source is the two most likely issues....
[00:44] <recurs1ve> Mainly with flash video
[00:44] <zykotick9> recurs1ve: flash sucks ;)  no matter what you do.  best of luck.
[00:44] <punzilla> http://pastebin.com/djbZcaKN
[00:44] <punzilla> zykotick9 that's what my ubuntu setup sees
[00:44] <PaintBucket> i've only been able to test the video being affected with Youtube.  But, I know even using rythem box to play a song skips.
[00:44] <zykotick9> punzilla: fyi, i don't visit pastebin.com links... :(..
[00:44] <recurs1ve> zykotick9: true
[00:45] <pfifo> Ive sucessfully setup my hp all-in-one for printing on my 12.04 server, now im trying to add the printer to my 12.04 laptop as a network printer, The laptop is not getting the ppd file from the server, if I remember correctly, I need to put the ppd file someplace specific on my server so that it can be accessed by remote machines. Does this ring a bell with anyone? Its been about 3 years since I did the printer serup last (just upgraded my server from 10.04
[00:45] <pfifo> :D)
[00:45] <punzilla> oh ok.
[00:45] <recurs1ve> That's why I use vlc for flash streaming
[00:45] <zykotick9> !paste > punzilla
[00:45] <punzilla> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5895803/
[00:46] <zykotick9> punzilla: i don't see any mention of the USB camera :( as a pure sound device there?
[00:46] <Foobar013> zykotick9: http://paste.debian.net/plainh/0515fd21
[00:47] <PaintBucket> Zykotick9: I'm not sure it's that. I've had this problem on my previous install too but, something I did magically fixed it. I haven't messed with graphics drivers at all
[00:47] <PaintBucket> I just can't figure out of the billion things I've done which solved it since it was a byproduct of something else.
[00:47] <punzilla> yeah that's right. It was there in the past
[00:47] <punzilla> (maybe a week ago).
[00:48] <zykotick9> Foobar013: well, you certainly have the two "auto" lines in there - which i wasn't expecting, given you description of you issue!  are those devices getting created?  are you use both devices are actually 0?
[00:48] <veryhappy> hi. is there any way to make a computer that doesn't have a bios setting for wake up on usb start on usb keyboard or doesn't that work at all for a ps2 keyboard and mouse to usb converter?
[00:49] <zykotick9> PaintBucket: are you currently using Gnash or Proprietary Adobe?  or is this chromium/chrome?  what browser is it ;)
[00:49] <Foobar013> zykotick9: i created the eth0 interface because its easier to setup than the wifi... But, yet, i dont have connection on neither
[00:50] <Foobar013> zykotick9: yes, they are created automatically
[00:50] <pfifo> ahh, disregard my question, i simply negleted to actually share the printer, lol
[00:50] <zykotick9> Foobar013: "created" eth0 device??? ahh, only the kernel can do that...
[00:50] <Foobar013> zykotick9: no, i said the interface. The device was already there
[00:50] <vale_> Hey everyone, quick question; How does one disable the title / borders by default?
[00:51] <c_smith> tgm4883: so, after a half-hour of fighting with fglrx. then taking a break and walking down the street to get a fountain drink, then another 45 minutes of fighting with fglrx, all after following the link you gave me, I got fglrx working.
[00:51] <vale_> (On Terminals and well.. Actually everything, but mostly terminals)
[00:51] <c_smith> tgm4883: the link you gave me was the key,
[00:52] <PaintBucket> Zykotick: It's firefox. I'm not sure which I'm using honestly. Just which ever comes standard.
[00:53] <zykotick9> Foobar013: i don't see anything wrong with your interfaces!  (but i could be blind?)  sorry i don't have any suggestions :(  best of luck.
[00:53] <Foobar013> zykotick: ok, thanks anyway
[00:54] <vale_> Does noone know how to disable the title / borders at the top of terminals?
[00:54] <zykotick9> !tab > PaintBucket
[00:54] <zykotick9> PaintBucket: try right clicking on a flash video.  do you see adobe anywhere, or something about gnash?
[00:55] <zykotick9> !tab > Foobar013
[00:55] <PaintBucket> zykotick9, okay. I see about Adobe.
[00:56] <zykotick9> PaintBucket: ok, well, best of luck - that "probably" as good as flash is gonna get for ya! - reminder, i h8 flash ;)
[00:56] <pfifo> I have a HARD question here, I setup network-manager to use a static ip address on my server, I set my DNS to google DNS (8.8.8.8) However after reboot I notice my /etc/resolv.conf file still has the info from my router in it (nameserver 127.0.0.1 \n search Belkin)... so here goes... Since Im using static IP addressing, do I need to edit my /etc/resolv.conf manually to use my desired DNS servers or is network-manager dropping the ball here?
[00:56] <zykotick9> PaintBucket: certainly verify your flash is as up-to-date as ubuntu repos!
[00:57] <PaintBucket> zykotick9,  Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's not an issue with flash since rythmbox skips too.
[00:57] <veryhappy> can i make a modern pc wake up on a ps2 keyboard over ps2 to usb converter even if it doesn't have such a setting in acpi settings?
[00:57] <Foobar013> zykotick9: tab on webchat? No
[00:57] <mon2908> Shouldn't you set the DNS Adress in your router?
[00:58] <zykotick9> PaintBucket: oh, so it's not a video issue then... that was my first statement...  if it's all round audio stuttering, then i have 0 idea.  good luck - audio have worked 95% of the time for me in gnu/linux...
[00:59] <zykotick9> Foobar013: well, you got my nick correct that time, so i was highlighted.  which makes things easier for me.  if you are using webcaht - i feel sorry for you ;)  sorry for the tab suggestion as well.  but web-chat-sucks ;)
[01:00] <PaintBucket> zykotick9, Yeah, it's systemwide. Thanks, I'm sure I'll eventually figure it out. I -thought- it was something that I picked up in an update but, I seem to be up to date now.
[01:01] <zykotick9> PaintBucket: to be honest, i did have an audio issues recently - of the audio device switching on reboots, and it showed me 2 things.  1) how little i "really" now about audio under gnu/linus and 2) what a pain in the ass audio issue are.  seriously, best of luck!
[01:01] <Foobar013> Well, I dont need to explain you that, but... I dont have network on my pc (thats why im here), so webchat is only option ;)
[01:02] <PaintBucket> lol
[01:02] <PaintBucket> Yeah, it's a headache. Thanks for trying though.
[01:02]  * zykotick9 thinks the typo gnu/linus - s and x are very close - is a funny typo ;)
[01:02] <joubin> Has anyone attempted to load the ubuntu phone os onto a Nexus 4 yet?
[01:03] <mon2908> Not me. Sorry.
[01:03] <joubin> Actually, I just learned there is a #ubuntu-touch
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> zykotick9, Your Freudian slip is showing. ;)
[01:03] <zykotick9> mon2908: honestly, if everyone with a "not me" answered, do you think this channel could get anything done?
[01:04] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: nice ;)
[01:12] <aegis> Are there any bind9 and dnsmasq gurus here that could help me with a problem I'm having with forwarding dns queries?
[01:12] <standoo> how much memory does a stripped down ubuntu use?
[01:13] <Psil0cybin> standoo, no idea but if you use Lubuntu
[01:13] <Psil0cybin> you will use less memory then Ubuntu
[01:13] <Psil0cybin> or even Xubuntu
[01:13] <ianorlin> yep
[01:13] <Psil0cybin> try other forks if you want stripped down versions
[01:14] <standoo> i'm using this for server
[01:14] <standoo> something like Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail)
[01:14] <pfifo> standoo, I have lubuntu on a 1.7ghz single core laptop with 256mb of memory, runs great, uses all of the available memory and 200MB or so of swap
[01:15] <Psil0cybin> pfifo, thats really neat :)
[01:15] <Psil0cybin> im using Xubuntu on my 1GB memory and its fantastic
[01:15] <Psil0cybin> i loveeee it
[01:15] <Psil0cybin> comparing windows 7 and XUbuntu on this laptop is out of this world.
[01:15] <Psil0cybin> the difference
[01:15] <Psil0Cybin> i actually completely abandoned using windows a few months ago.
[01:15] <zykotick9> standoo: how much ram do you have?  starting from mini or server, i'd think you'd still probably want 512MB+...
[01:16] <pfifo> standoo, without X linux uses about 60MB of memory (I remember this somehow)
[01:17] <standoo> i'm not using X
[01:17] <standoo> i think i'll just download it and see how much ram it uses
[01:17] <zykotick9> standoo: i understand that.  but ubuntu isn't the lightest of distros out there, so what are we talking about?
[01:17] <standoo> zykotick9: i'm creating a shared hosting platform
[01:18] <KornKage> i register to forum yesterday, and today hacked
[01:18] <KornKage> i thought ubuntu was hacker free
[01:18] <zykotick9> standoo: officially server/cli asks for 128 MiB
[01:18] <standoo> i'm now considering os level virtualiztion with lxc containers having ubuntu on them
[01:21] <pfifo> standoo, the kernel supplied by ubuntu is 4.7M, and busybox clocks in at 527k, so you 'should' be able to boot with an 8M stick of memory (but the initrd that got built with this install is 14M)
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> KornKage, Nothing is hacker free.
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> just free hacking
[01:22] <standoo> pfifo: sounds cool
[01:23] <payoni> so uh, the forums were hacked
[01:23] <Greylocks> does anyone know the command to get vi (vim) to display line numbers?
[01:23] <standoo> pfifo: did most of you move from debian at some point?
[01:23] <payoni> what hash does ubuntuforums store passwords with?
[01:23] <wilee-nilee> payoni, #ubuntuforums is your source
[01:23] <payoni> ok, thanks
[01:25] <trism> Greylocks: :set number
[01:26] <pfifo> standoo, yes I used debain before ubuntu was created, and i can point my finger at several others in here that are the same.
[01:26] <Greylocks> trism: thank you
[01:26] <h36sa> hello, I'm running ubuntu 13.04 PXE booted with an NFS root. Every time I use apt-get install   I get a bunch of package reconfiguring nonsense that's always the same /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of 192.168.10.4:/mnt/zraid/tftproot/00-21-70-52-78-fe/ubuntu/13.04-root.  for the following packages.  Is there a way to get apt-get to ignore these packages (I really don't need linux-image but I suspect
[01:26] <h36sa> it's a dep for most other packages)
[01:26] <h36sa>  linux-image-3.8.0-19-generic
[01:26] <h36sa>  linux-image-3.8.0-26-generic
[01:26] <h36sa>  linux-image-extra-3.8.0-26-generic
[01:26] <h36sa>  linux-image-generic
[01:26] <h36sa>  linux-generic
[01:26] <FloodBot1> h36sa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:26] <h36sa>  linux-image-extra-3.8.0-19-generic
[01:27] <Nmbr1> !paste > h36sa
[01:28] <h36sa> sorry. did all the lines get pasted though? I'm sure everyone can get the general idea of the problem
[01:28] <pfifo> h36sa, why dont you just install linux-image-generic on the NFS root?
[01:30] <h36sa> pfifo, ? I am but the grub-probe command fails with that error which causes apt-get think i should try it again every time I emerge something
[01:31] <h36sa> I have vmlinuz and initrd.img for both kernel revs in /boot (which aren't ever actually used). So I'm not sure why I can't trick the system into thinking everything is kosher
[01:31] <pfifo> h36sa, try 'sudo apt-get install -f'
[01:33] <h36sa> pfifo, http://pastebin.com/FGQYpex2
[01:34] <h36sa> can I remove the hook that runs run-parts: /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub exited with return code 1 somewhere?
[01:34] <h36sa> I suppose I could replace that file with return 0
[01:34] <pfifo> h36sa, are you running apt-get from the client or a chroot on the server?
[01:34] <h36sa> pfifo, client
[01:35] <pfifo> h36sa, no, you should edit the clients filesystem from the server, the NFS root should be read only if at all possible
[01:35] <joshu_> hi would installing ubuntu mini and then the following sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends ubuntu-desktop, unity-greeter, ubuntu-artwork, network-manager-gnome, lightdm result in a minimal ubuntu OS?
[01:36] <h36sa> pfifo, not for my purposes but that's beside the point
[01:36] <zykotick9> joshu_: honestly, using no-install-recommends with any *-desktop metapackages, is bound to lead to tears...
[01:36] <h36sa> there's no reason this shouldn't work (everything actually does work quite well except for the slight delay after installing packages)
[01:37] <joshu_> zykotick9 ok I found that "recipe" whilst googling.
[01:37] <zykotick9> joshu_: it's probaly not worth the trouble... just sayin'
[01:38] <pfifo> h36sa, well nothing wrong with a rw NFS root, but check out casper when you get a chance... anyway, this is failing cause grub is tring to install itself on you network filesystem and it cant find a physical drive for it (of course)... to fix it, chroot into the client from your server and install linux-image-generic
[01:39] <joshu_> zykotick9 if the starting point is ubuntu mini and the desired outcome is a minimal OS which basically only presents a login screen, supports the laptop hardware (basics ethernet, wifi, brightness) and VPN, RDP, local USB printer, local USB scanner what would you do?
[01:40] <zykotick9> joshu_: perhaps the same ;) but that's me answering.  fyi, you can specify that in /etc/apt/apt.conf BTW (highly NOT recommended!)
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> joshu_, Your desired outcome is not what it offers.
[01:41] <soumen> Hi All, Im having trouble dual bootiung ubuntu 12.04 with win 7
[01:41] <joshu_> zykotick9 when you say the same you mean the recipe I first posted?
[01:41] <soumen> Have a strange problem, couldnt find much after extensive googling
[01:41] <joshu_> wilee-nilee how do you mean?
[01:41] <zykotick9> joshu_: i don't follow random "recipes" i find on the interwebs ;)
[01:41] <h36sa> pfifo, I'll try that later, thanks
[01:42] <joshu_> zykotick9 I agree that's why I'm asking for advice as I don't have the expertise
[01:42] <soumen> Ubuntu detects multiple win7 installs (there is only one) and when I hit enter on any of them, the windows splash scren comes up but freezes
[01:42] <h36sa> pfifo, is there no way to completely disable the grub hooks as I don't use grub?
[01:42] <wilee-nilee> joshu_, The mini is just a netload with a lot more options then a single live ISO, I suspect one can from the base install do what they want but all the packages otherwise offered are the same in a cli in a install.
[01:43] <soumen> Can someone please help me?
[01:43] <pfifo> h36sa, what is the actual package your trying to install?
[01:43] <Nmbr1> !patience | soumen
[01:43] <zykotick9> joshu_: if you honest-to-god need the most minimal system possible (and don't need to upgrade to the next version of ubuntu!) THEN avoid *-desktop metapackages like the plague. and only install what you really need, off of mini!
[01:43] <manuj> hi
[01:44] <anocide> hello
[01:44] <soumen> Nmbr1: Sorry if that looked hurried, I only meant it as a continuation to my former lines
[01:44] <manuj> i need some help
[01:44] <leotemp> anyone feel like msging me and helping me through the install for an atheros wifi card on a laptop
[01:44] <zykotick9> joshu_: basically, install mini with nothing selected, but the "base" option, and build upon that...
[01:44] <joshu_> zykotick9 I don't need 100% minimal super tuned but the purpose of building a custom ubuntu OS is to make it as easy for a user as possible to just login and get connected to their RDP session via VPN
[01:44] <soumen> manuj: What sort of help?
[01:45] <manuj> kindly tell me how to open menu(start) by pressing window key
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> manuj,  i think you just tap the windows key and it opens the dash screen
[01:45] <soumen> manuj: Are you on ubuntu? Which desktop env?
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> press and hold and it shows a list of shortcuts
[01:45] <zykotick9> joshu_: then just install regular ubuntu-desktop, and try to customize it to taste
[01:45]  * pfifo high fives Dr_Willis
[01:45] <manuj> sorry, i am using linux mint 9
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> manuj,  time to go to the mint support channels then
[01:46] <zykotick9> !mint | manuj
[01:46] <anocide> can anyone help me with a gnome-keyring / network manager problem?
[01:46] <soumen> manuj: Thats fine, so, GNOME right?
[01:46] <manuj> ok thanks
[01:46] <manuj> yeah gnome
[01:46] <zykotick9> anocide: do you have autologin enabled?
[01:46] <anocide> NO
[01:46] <anocide> been down that path
[01:46] <h36sa> pfifo, every package tries to reconfigure those I initially listed every time they're installed
[01:46] <anocide> its worked for 3 years
[01:46] <zykotick9> anocide: then ask the channel, all on one line - and don't include my nick.
[01:47] <soumen> manuj: Not sure. On unity, it works off the box.
[01:47] <manuj> ok i will go to mint help
[01:47] <joshu_> wilee-nilee I understand so what approach would you take to achieve what I decribed?
[01:47] <h36sa> for example I installed xchat to ask this question and it tried to reconfigure the kernel at the end (or at least grub) which takes 30+ seconds
[01:47] <anocide> this the right channel zykotick9?
[01:47] <zykotick9> anocide: assuming you're using ubuntu = yes ;)
[01:48] <anocide> yes
[01:48] <leotemp> I have a laptop with an atheros 168c:0036 network device, the forums are down and i dont know how to install the driver properly
[01:48] <anocide> there's a ubuntu gnome channel too
[01:48] <pfifo> h36sa, yeah, but this all started by trying to install a package that required grub or linux-headers or linux-firmware or such... Im putting $20 on the cause of this being a video card driver (nvidia or fglrx)
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> leotemp,  check askubuntu.com yet?
[01:48] <Vinnie_win> How do I make it so the menu doesn't auto-hide? What a pointless feature. I'm on 12.04LTS
[01:48] <leotemp> I will right now Dr, thanks
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> Vinnie_win,  you can disable the global menu if you dont like it in the top panel.
[01:49] <Vinnie_win> I dont want to disable it, I want it to appear always.
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> Vinnie_win,  check askubuntu.com there may be a tweak for that. cant say ive ever noticed one.
[01:49] <wilee-nilee> joshu_, Not sure what your goal is exactly, I have not followed all the posts, minimizing if tha is it is probably more likely from the ground up, which I would not really know, maybe gentoo. ;)
[01:50] <anocide> Q. After working perfect for years, my 3G nm-applet connection has died. Appears to be prob with gnome-keyring-d. This is main error message ** Message: secret service operation failed: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[01:50] <manuj> @wilee-nilee
[01:50] <pfifo> h36sa, without knowing the the package that caused it, this could be bad advice so take it with a pinch of salt 'sudo apt-get purge grub-pc'
[01:50] <joshu_> wilee-nilee ok
[01:50] <anocide>  NOTE: no autologin => Q. After working perfect for years, my 3G nm-applet connection has died. Appears to be prob with gnome-keyring-d. This is main error message ** Message: secret service operation failed: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> joshu_, If I knew I would suggest, but I'm just basically an armchair user with way to much time.
[01:52] <joshu_> zykotick9 googling it seems like lightdm has a lot configuration options that might enable the automation of connecting via VPN and then open a RDP session via FreeRDP. Are you familiar with lightdm and is it suitable for this? Basically would I starting with ubuntu mini be able to install ightdm and configure it and more or less have what I explained?
[01:53] <joshu_> wilee-nilee no worries ;)
[01:53] <zykotick9> joshu_: sorry, i've never used lightdm - or am i familiar with 3g N-M connections - I gots nothin' sorry!
[01:53] <h36sa> pfifo, I think that worked. thanks a bunch
[01:53] <as0t> my first day on ubuntu 13.04 oh damn looks so damn awesome
[01:54] <joshu_> zykotick9 ok no problem! thanks
[01:54] <as0t> but its kinda hard for me cause its my first day on linux world :D
[01:54] <Nmbr1> as0t: welcome... to the real world
[01:54] <pfifo> h36sa, itll probably just come right back when you try to install another package that needs grub or such, keep the chroot solution written down ;)
[01:55] <pfifo> joshu_,  I would debootstrap/mini install, and then 'apt-get xserver-xorg lightdm' and whatever you need for your RDP stuff
[01:56] <joshu_> hi pfifo what does "debootstrap" mean?
[01:56] <pfifo> joshu_, another way to install a mini system
[01:56] <zykotick9> joshu_: debootstrap is a method to install an OS from inside another running/compatible os.
[01:57] <joshu_> zykotick9 oh ok
[01:57] <h36sa> pfifo, if that's the case should I file bug reports saying that grub isn't a real dep?
[01:58] <pfifo> h36sa, no your way too far into custom land to make helpful bug reports.
[01:59] <joshu_> pfifo so install ubuntu mini via command line option, then once installed do "apt-get xserver-xorg lightdm". Apart from installing say FreeRDP for RDP and a vpn client, would networking, printing work with this or that would require additional packages and config? when I say printing the printer needs to be installed locally via cups, but printing will actually take place via RDP printer redirection.
[02:04] <tamiya> Can someone help me this this piece of crap Linux? I installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and did a 'sudo apt-get update' and this is what I get: http://pastebin.com/sGcVmSuB
[02:06] <dman777> hi
[02:06] <vale_> dman777: hi
[02:07] <dman777> on compiz, is it possible to make a hot key like f1 spawn a urxvt window and later on when i hit f1 again it will bring that same window into focus rather than spawn a new one?
[02:07] <anonymous> iae galera
[02:07] <vale_> Not that I know of, but I'm still a noob.. You could always just make seperate key bindings?
[02:08] <tamiya> sudo apt-get update anyone?
[02:08] <pfifo> joshu_, cups is pretty heavy on deps, your losing you minimal system now. But yeah, a plain xorg with cups is a working solution.
[02:08] <Guest32704> alguem ai pra conversa com migo?
[02:08] <tamiya> why is something so fundamental so broken
[02:09] <kristianpaul> hi
[02:09] <kristianpaul> There is a way to get ubuntu on a surfase rt?
[02:09] <pfifo> tamiya, try using a different mirror
[02:10] <tamiya> pfifo how do i do that
[02:10] <tamiya> and why doesnt the stupid software try a different mirror automatically if it cant fetch what it wants
[02:10] <pfifo> tamiya, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and replace every instance of 'au.archive.ubuntu.com' with 'archive.ubuntu.com'
[02:11] <pfifo> tamiya, cause its stupid ^^
[02:11] <tamiya> jesus whats the point of the software knowing which mirror is closest to me and then not trying another mirror upon failure
[02:12] <kostkon> tamiya, in software centre select edit → software sources. you don't need to edit your sources.list file
[02:12] <joshu_> and networking and basic hardware support is not an issue with the setup you've described? Btw I'm testing this in a VM now
[02:13] <joshu_> pfifo just finished installing 'apt-get xserver-xorg lightdm' I get the login screen with user, guest and remote user, and minimal bar at the top. looks ok. when I try to login I just get back at the login screen
[02:14] <pfifo> joshu_, make sure youve added a user to your system and then do this... http://www.itworld.com/operating-systems/289434/how-put-lubuntu-automatic-login-mode
[02:15] <joshu_> I guess at this point all config needs to happen on the command line, for vpn, rdp, printer etc? then to get something to happen when the user logs in as opposed to being presented with the login screen *again* I need to configure lightdm options? Have I understood how to proceed?
[02:15] <tamiya> OMG, it works!!!
[02:15] <tamiya> Thank you kostkon and pfifo
[02:16] <pfifo> joshu_, yeah, you seem to be on the right track
[02:16] <jules_> how can i see, which software my grafic card is using? thank you
[02:16] <kostkon> tamiya, :)
[02:16] <anocide>  NOTE: no autologin => Q. After working perfect for years, my 3G nm-applet connection has died. Appears to be prob with gnome-keyring-d. This is main error message ** Message: secret service operation failed: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[02:18] <anonymous_> hello
[02:18] <pfifo> anocide, can you paste the output of 'lsb_release -sd'
[02:18] <joshu_> pfifo so this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Autorun_a_Command would be where I would have to write scripts to deal with the network config when the user logins in? or alternatively to simplify things I could teach the user to go the the top bar network manager and connect to the vpn, usb modem there and then login and start an xsession via freerdp?
[02:18] <anonymous_> anonymous
[02:18] <vale_> Does anyone know how to undecorate terminals? I just want to open terminals and see only their content (No username@hostname at the top or even exit, minimize, and enlarge options at the top)
[02:19] <joshu_> pfifo sorry if what I'm saying is obvious easier to think out loud and get feedback ;)
[02:19] <pfifo> joshu_, your starting to lose me on the VPN/RDP stuff
[02:20] <joshu_> pfifo ok. right now as the OS stands you can basically do nothing
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> vale_,  ages ago that was a common trick. id say hit up google for 'root window terminals'   it was a common thing like 8+ yrs ago. :)
[02:20] <PepperoniPizza> anyone know where the color info is stored in bash? like what file ?
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> PepperoniPizza,  color info for what exactly?
[02:21] <PepperoniPizza> Dr_Willis, well basically I have an ubuntu machine and a freebsd machine I installed bash on the free bsd one but it lacks the different colors the ubuntu one has, like if I open a .php file on ubuntu it highlights the syntax and stuff real nice
[02:21] <PepperoniPizza> Dr_Willis, but on freebsd it is just white
[02:22] <pfifo> joshu_, yeah you have a minimal X with lightdm as a greeter, you can edit a file somewhere to get X to run commands on startup and then return to the login screen when they finish running
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> vale_,  http://wiki.archbang.org/index.php?title=Permanent,_Transparent_LXTerminal_on_Desktop   looks like some neat info
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> PepperoniPizza,  open with what app?
[02:23] <PepperoniPizza> Dr_Willis, hmm ?
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> PepperoniPizza,  it will be app settings not bash setting
[02:23] <PepperoniPizza> Dr_Willis, in freebsd they told me it was ~/.bashrc
[02:23] <joshu_> pfifo http://cl.ly/image/0s3j3D2k1T1k
[02:23] <PepperoniPizza> so im gonna copy my ubuntu version over and try it
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> PepperoniPizza,  vi, ls, more, less, all have their own color settings
[02:23] <PepperoniPizza> Dr_Willis, ahh
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> bash dosent actually do anything to the colors.
[02:24] <PepperoniPizza> Dr_Willis, well I use nano on both to edit config files etc
[02:24] <PepperoniPizza> but on freebsd it has no color which makes it harder to do stuff
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> its possible there s SHELL/TERM setting defined to tell those apps to use colors
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> see what your TERM variable is set to
[02:24] <dman777> is it possibile in compiz to assign a key per a window, and hit that key to bring the assigned window into focus?
[02:25] <PepperoniPizza> Dr_Willis, xterm on both
[02:25] <pfifo> joshu_, All that can be configured in the lightdm config, there has to be some documentation on what and where... google likely knows
[02:25] <PepperoniPizza> and you were right the bashrc file didn't do anything
[02:25] <_andyj_> is grub2 set to not display a menu in vmware by default for some reason?
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> grub2 hides its menu by default if linux/ubuntu is the only OS you have on the syste,
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> you can hold the shift key at boot to make it show.
[02:26] <_andyj_> even if I install a second kernel?  odd
[02:26] <_andyj_> thanks I'll give that a shot
[02:26] <joshu_> ok I think you've given me a good starting point pfifo! Will you be around tomorrow?
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> it dosent care about the kernels. if you got just ubuntu. it hides it
[02:26] <PepperoniPizza> Dr_Willis, it seems ls -G adds colors on freebsd
[02:27] <pfifo> joshu_, not likely, my free time is precious these days
[02:27] <pfifo> joshu_, I dont know crap about the VPN part anyway
[02:28] <joshu_> I think I can figure that out as I've used freerdp before and also tested the vpn on a standard ubuntu install. The help I need is related to what you've helped with so far, but next step is making sure that what needs to happen does on user login.
[02:29] <BugsCrash> hello , Im chenge my motherboard today, and Linux Ubuntu Server 11.10 get blackscreen . Anyone :
[02:30] <joshu_> pfifo as the system stands does it support hardware the same way a standard ubuntu install does? so although I'm testing in a VM I will need to run this on a laptop and need the ethernet, display brightness, usb ports, trackpad the basics to be supported?
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> PepperoniPizza,  yep. its the app that handles the colors - not bash. make an ls alias if you want it to alwyas shows colors
[02:30] <joshu_> pfifo btw the laptop I have checked is certified by ubuntu and is on the hardware list. It's more a question of whether this minimal system is missing the hardware support
[02:30] <pfifo> joshu_, yes, you should have what you need for hardware support, minus printing
[02:31] <joshu_> pfifo thanks awesome!
[02:31] <PepperoniPizza> Dr_Willis, will do
[02:32] <joshu_> pfifo with regards to configuring the system and as I can't login as a user, how do I "drop" to the console/ command line to make config changes?
[02:32] <pfifo> joshu_, use ctrl+alt+f1 and ctrl+alt+f7
[02:33] <joshu_> pfifo (bow)!!! thanks again for all your help you've got me on the right path I think! :D
[02:34] <pfifo> cheers
[02:35] <joshu_> good night
[02:39] <ni501963> hello
[02:41] <PepperoniPizza> Dr_Willis, it was a ~/.nanorc coupled with a bunch of files from /usr/share/nano stole em all ;-P
[02:42] <dman777> what's the latest version of compiz out on ubuntu?
[02:43] <hyprvx> So, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 13.04. Whether I partition it myself or let the computer do it, I get a BIOS message: No bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key
[02:43] <ChedderFry> if you disobey god you will be tormented day and night forever and ever
[02:43] <hyprvx> didn't know we had a conservatives' hour
[02:44] <hyprvx> Hello? Can someone help me?
[02:45] <PepperoniPizza> ChedderFry, spare us your religious drivel please
[02:45] <Freeloader> With what?
[02:45] <ChedderFry> sorry but i cant listen to men, but only god
[02:45] <ChedderFry> if you disobey god you will be tormented day and night forever and ever
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> !ops } ChedderFry
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> !ops | ChedderFry
[02:46] <ChedderFry> !ops | Matthew 4:4
[02:46] <PepperoniPizza> lol
[02:46] <hyprvx> chedderfry, I don't need to be told that I'm going to burn in hell even if I don't believe in some "omnicient or omnipotent" god.
[02:46] <ChedderFry> man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that comes out of the mouth of God (Matthew 4:4)
[02:47] <ChedderFry> !ops | man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that comes out of the mouth of God (Matthew 4:4)
[02:47] <PepperoniPizza> hyprvx, he is clearly englightened
[02:48] <PepperoniPizza> ty
[02:52] <olskolirc> i was playing with a program where you take a pic and anywhere that pic is on the net it will show you
[02:52] <olskolirc> anyone know that program?
[02:53] <somsip> olskolirc: tineye?
[02:53] <e_t_> olskolirc
[02:54] <olskolirc> lemme try thanks somsip
[02:54] <e_t_> sorry
[02:54] <Psil0Cybin> Whats up
[02:54] <Psil0Cybin> my ladies
[02:54] <Psil0Cybin> :)
[02:54] <Psil0Cybin> Anyone know what we are doing tonight?
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> ignoring you
[02:55] <Psil0Cybin> wrong
[02:55] <Psil0Cybin> trying to take over the world, Will|
[02:55] <Psil0Cybin> wilee-nilee,
[02:56] <Psil0Cybin> sorry Will|
[02:58] <hyprvx> man I missed the ban hammer striking
[02:59] <hyprvx> anyways, I'm trying to boot to a new Ubuntu install and my BIOS is telling me No bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key
[03:00] <dsadel> did the forum get hacked
[03:00] <kow_> dsadel, yes
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> dsadel, yup
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> database leakage :p
[03:01] <dsadel> FUCK
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> shits dropping like its hot
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> thank god i used a shittay password i could care less about
[03:01] <leotemp> okay, sorry guys, i tried ask ubuntu but im just too noob to figure this out, i need to install network drivers for my atheros network wifi device
[03:01] <hyprvx> dsadel, Psil0Cybin: please watch your languages, this is a PG-rated channel
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> sorry Hyperbyte
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> hyprvx, keep forgetting
[03:02] <dsadel> in context the use of a swaer word is fine in my opinion
[03:02] <hyprvx> anyways, can someone help? I can't boot to the Ubuntu install I just made
[03:03] <leotemp> hyprvx, how did you install it, a cd, usb key?
[03:03] <dsadel> does it mean linux server has holes
[03:03] <hyprvx> leotemp: CD
[03:03] <leotemp> can you still boot up with the cd?
[03:03] <hxr> how to i remove about 8 extra out of date kernels from the boot folder, other then manually
[03:04] <hyprvx> yes, and I've reinstalled 2x
[03:04] <Psil0Cybin> Anyone know if i installed Ubuntu by making the windows 7 partition smaller, can I completely remove the windows partition
[03:04] <Psil0Cybin> or is in the Ubuntu partition within the Windows Partition
[03:04] <MrBarry> Hello, all. Does anyone have any experience with IOGear print servers under 12.04?
[03:04] <leotemp> do you know if you have an uefi hard drive?
[03:05] <dsadel> you can remove the windows partition
[03:05] <Psil0Cybin> I installed Ubuntu after I installed windows and I want to get rid of windows and just keep ubuntu thus making ubuntu 250 gbs instead of 48
[03:05] <hyprvx> no idea leotemp
[03:05] <Psil0Cybin> dsadel, can I
[03:05] <MrBarry> PsilOCybin, by default Ubuntu doesn't do anything in the Windows partition.
[03:05] <dsadel> yes
[03:05] <Psil0Cybin> How would i ago about removing the windows 7 partition
[03:05] <hyprvx> if it helps at all, then it's a CR-48 with the InsydeH2O BIOS
[03:05] <dsadel> unless you wish to duel boot
[03:05] <Psil0Cybin> and enlarging ubuntu without causing corruption
[03:05] <Psil0Cybin> no
[03:05] <Psil0Cybin> i want windows 7 gone
[03:05] <Psil0Cybin> from my machine
[03:05] <Psil0Cybin> i never use it
[03:05] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> could I use gparted
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> to remove windows 7 partition and then enlarge ubuntu
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> i guess id have to use a bootable disk? again
[03:06] <MrBarry> PsilOCybin, I downloaded the System Rescue disc, which has gparted on it. You can use that. Download the iso of the CD, burn it to a CD, boot from that CD, and you'll be able to adjust your partitions.
[03:06] <hyprvx> Psil0Cybin, suggestion: Back up everything from Ubuntu, do a clean install erasing the hard drive
[03:06] <leotemp> hyprvx, okay, well try this, it worked for me, boot to your cd, click the start button and run boot repair, try the standard option, if it doesnt work, try the advanced and use the uefi options
[03:07] <dsadel> you were probably better off formating your entire HD if you only wish to run ubuntu
[03:07] <hxr> Psil0Cybin⚡ do you have grub installed as your main bootloader
[03:07] <Psil0Cybin> yup
[03:07] <Psil0Cybin> hxr
[03:07] <dsadel> yes, as hyprvx said
[03:07] <Psil0Cybin> im just too lazy to do a fresh install
[03:07] <Psil0Cybin> yea so maybe ill just wait and do a clean install soon
[03:07] <Psil0Cybin> in a bit
[03:08] <leotemp> anyone feel up to talking me through installing the driver for my wifi card?
[03:08] <bas996> Anyone have any luck with D'Link DWA-121 usb wifi adapter?
[03:08] <hyprvx> leotemp: booting into the CD now. Here's how I partitioned it: sda1 is ext4, main install partition. sda2 is EFI boot, for GRUB or whatever. sda3 is swap space
[03:09] <hxr> then you can remove the windows partition completly
[03:09] <hxr> Psil0Cybin⚡ ^
[03:09] <leotemp> just run boot repair
[03:09] <hyprvx> alrighty then
[03:09] <hxr> use live cd to expand the linux partition to max drive
[03:09] <leotemp> sorry
[03:09] <hxr> via gparted
[03:10] <hxr> use live cd to expand the linux partition to max drive via gparted Psil0Cybin
[03:10] <Psil0Cybin> guys
[03:10] <Psil0Cybin> okay thanks
[03:10] <Psil0Cybin> :)
[03:10] <Psil0Cybin> another question
[03:10] <hxr> other wise you would have 2 partitions
[03:11] <hxr> its funny helping here when I myself only use ubuntu server and archlinux
[03:11] <hxr> lol
[03:11] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys another question i used rkhunter to check my computer and i got this as a warning
[03:11] <Psil0Cybin> [23:04:32]   Checking for passwd file changes                [ Warning ]
[03:11] <Psil0Cybin> [23:04:32] Warning: User 'guest-F8Dv96' has been added to the passwd file.
[03:12] <Psil0Cybin> how do i find out what that account is ? and how can i disable it?
[03:12] <Psil0Cybin> is it the guest? on my laptop
[03:12] <hxr> Odd.
[03:12] <Psil0Cybin> when i go to user accounts i dont see it
[03:13] <hyprvx> leotemp: is boot repair already installed? if not, where do I find it?
[03:13] <MrBarry> I've installed a new IOGear GPSU21 print server on my network to replace an old WinXP box that I was using as a print and file server. Now when I try to print through it from my 12.04 laptop, I get a "Processing - Error writing spool: NT_STATUS_IO_TIMEOUT" printer state. The laptop is dual-boot to Win7, and the Win7 half of it prints through this IOGear server just fine. Any ideas?
[03:13] <hxr> Psil0Cybin⚡ check your pwd file see if its listed in there
[03:14] <k0d3g3ar> hello world
[03:14] <Psil0Cybin> where is the pwd file?
[03:14] <Psil0Cybin> i found it in groups
[03:15] <hxr> /etc i believe
[03:16] <Psil0Cybin> guest-F8Dv96:x:118:129:Guest,,,:/tmp/guest-F8Dv96:/bin/bash
[03:17] <Psil0Cybin> hxr,
[03:17] <Psil0Cybin> can i remove it from groups?
[03:17] <Psil0Cybin> do you think
[03:27] <hyprvx> I think Boot Repair has fixed my problem...
[03:27] <hyprvx> Yes it has! I should make a USB stick with useful repair tools, with Boot Repair included (since it seems to fix every problem I've had)
[03:29] <Psil0cybin> hxr,
[03:29] <Psil0cybin> sorry should i remove the group
[03:29] <Psil0cybin> how do i remove that account?
[03:29] <hxr> /etc i believe
[03:30] <Psil0cybin> i was in /etc
[03:30] <hxr> yes, you can remove it that way to
[03:30] <Psil0cybin> okay cool thanks
[03:30] <hxr> adduser or deluser, I am not sure, what one it is
[03:32] <Psil0cybin> okay second guys brb
[03:37] <yashwant> any body know how to format read only or crashed pendrive(usb) which is which is detecting in lsusb but it is not detecting by using fdisk -l
[03:39] <forbin> regarding 13.04.. how can i remove the overview screen while switching workspaces? I don't like the slow animation
[03:40] <forbin> the thing that pops up in the middle of the screen, showing all your workspaces
[03:40] <forbin> must stab it gone.
[03:47] <j4rh3rD> yashwant: try mkfs.vfat
[03:49] <yashwant> j4rh3rD: any option with  mkfs.vfat.
[03:50] <j4rh3rD> yashwant: mkfs.vfat  /dev/[your pendrive block address]
[03:51] <j4rh3rD> yashwant: you want to use sudo for that btw.
 : yes I can use, Its my system.
[03:52] <Psil0Cybin> im back
[03:52] <Psil0Cybin> hxr, you helped me
[03:52] <Psil0Cybin> removing the group and account solved everything within rkhunter
[03:52] <Psil0Cybin> you the man!
[03:57] <yashwant>  <j4rh3rD>: mkfs.vfat /dev/sdc giving No such file or Directory.
[03:57] <j4rh3rD> yashwant: what's the output of fdisk -l ?
[03:58] <Ori> Can't get multiple sites working with vagrant don't know what I'm doing wrong http://pastebin.com/tgTg0Fxh . Thanks
 :No, but lsusb is giving Brand name and Bus name of pendrive
[03:58] <genii> Although you could format the entire hd like mkfs.whatever /dev/sdX    without partition number, probably not a great idea since automounter won't know what fs to use to read it
 Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0951:1643 Kingston Technology
[04:00] <j4rh3rD> yashwant: try with the -I flag (That's a capital 'i')
This is also giving no such file and directory
[04:05] <HomelessSanta> Could someone direct me to where the HOST file is located on Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS?!?
[04:06] <Ori> try, /etc/hosts
[04:08] <HomelessSanta> Ori, Is the file hidden by default?
[04:08] <HomelessSanta> Doesn't seem to exist in there.
[04:09] <HomelessSanta> Only one folder with an H in /etc.
[04:09] <genii> Perhaps look for loiwercase H
[04:09] <HomelessSanta> genii, I forgot to add it is a lowercase h.
[04:09] <HomelessSanta> Just that folder exist.
[04:10] <BillyZane> hi
[04:10] <BillyZane> does anyone know how to install and run virtualbox from /home directory ?
[04:11] <HomelessSanta> http://imgur.com/5sdZGzj
[04:11] <Ori> HomelessSanta: it shouldn't be hidden
[04:12] <Ori> got to your terminal and type ls /etc
[04:12] <genii> HomelessSanta: The files would be: /etc/hosts /etc/hosts.allow /etc/hosts.deny /etc/hostname /etc/host.conf
[04:12] <genii> and /etc/hdparm.conf if you have that set, etc etc
[04:13] <HomelessSanta> genii, Don't know if it made any difference but when I installed Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS an hour ago it used the Quantal Kernel.
[04:13] <HomelessSanta> But I'll check those directories.
[04:13] <Nmbr1> BillyZane: what do you mean install/run from /home? just install vbox and then build/import your vm to whatever location you want (e.g. /home)
[04:13] <HomelessSanta> Cause /etc/hosts doesn't seem to exist.
[04:14] <genii> If it doesn't exist then you're in a completely different world of trouble
[04:15] <HomelessSanta> genii, HA it's good now it only popped up when I used Nano. So in turn hosts wasn't a directory but a file.
[04:15] <HomelessSanta> Cool, cool thankies.
[04:15] <genii> Hm.
[04:16] <HomelessSanta> Yeah, listed as a file in /etc
[04:16] <HomelessSanta> :)
[04:16] <HomelessSanta> Thanks again though. :)
[04:17] <antimatroid> h'okay, so I finally installed the new ubuntu that doesn't given me a bar along the bottom with all my open windows. Question: How do I easily access open windows with my mouse? It's currently taking me three clicks to access windows that are hidden which used to take one click!
[04:18] <antimatroid> at the moment i need to double click the application on the left then find the window I'm looking for and click that, rather inefficient :(
[04:19] <varunendra> antimatroid, install "compiz-config-settings-manager" and setup hot corners for "Scale" and "Expo" effects. Easiest way to access multiple windows/desktops.
[04:20] <Seegee> Does anoyone know Joobz? Or someone with a name like that?
[04:21] <antimatroid> why is the workspace switcher so crap now too
[04:21] <antimatroid> it used to let me just click the workspace i wanted (not that I ever actually used that, but I preferred the old one)
[04:23] <varunendra> antimatroid, it's just the way Unity works. The expo effect may help.
[04:25] <antimatroid> i would have expected clicking on the app to give me a list of open windows
[04:25] <antimatroid> is there a way to get that?
[04:27] <Wulframn> antimatroid, to be honest, most of us are focused more on just getting "back" to a point where our desktop just doesn't get in the way of our productivity. A lot of us have given up the desire, for now, for actual function. =P
[04:27] <varunendra> antimatroid, how is it different than what Unity does?
[04:29] <antimatroid> say I click pidgin when I'm on chrome, it just brings up the most recent active pidgin screen, I then need to click it again to get my entire desktop used to give me a list
[04:29] <antimatroid> i'd prefer to just click it once with a nice small list next to the app
[04:29] <antimatroid> i don't really like all these "fancy" effects things :P
[04:30] <antimatroid> but yes, the way you put it is perfect, I just want to get to a point where I'm not frustrated trying to do simple things, it kills my productivity
[04:31] <varunendra> antimatroid, I don't know how to set Unity like that. you may try a different de though. And the expo and scale effects have actually improved the accessibility for me. I use them for their usability, not because they are fancy :)
[04:32] <antimatroid> i'll have a play and see how I go, cheers :)
[04:33] <varunendra> antimatroid, with scale effect hot point, you just move your pointer to a corner of your choice and all (or only those on the current workspace) apps get organised on the screen to pick from.
[04:33] <varunendra> with their icons and names if you wish.
[04:35] <evan_> how can i ssh to a machine that is idle?  I get a Network timeout error.  The machine is located elsewhere and there was a power outage.  Now it's sleeping and I can't SSH onto it?  i guess I have to go manually reboot it?
[04:37] <Pendrag0n> So my business partner is AWOL, and I need to attempt to do some of his work for him.  This would include taking a OpenVZ VPS (ubuntu) and cloning it to a KVM VPS (ubuntu) box.  I would like the ownership permissions all to stay the same.  I am thinking maybe I could add his user, my user, the lighttpd user, samba, etc, then maybe change there user id's to match the old box before I rsync things over.  Thoughts?
[04:38] <genii> evan_:  If you can't ping it odds are you won't be able to ssh in
[04:38] <standoo> Pendrag0n: AWOL as in never come back?
[04:38] <Pendrag0n> standoo: As in I think he will be gone for the next week or two
[04:39] <Pendrag0n> but I need to get this done in the next day or two
[04:39] <b80905> i wanna find the biggest files on my system; ls -lS `find / 2> /dev/null` | head     results in 'argument list too long'
[04:40] <Pendrag0n> b8095, try to | more
[04:40] <Pendrag0n> then just look at the first page of results
[04:40] <Pendrag0n> if they are in the wrong order, | tac | more
[04:40] <holstein> Pendrag0n: clonezilla works well
[04:40] <evan_> genii: I can't ping it.  I can see that it has an IP assigned from the router... I'm 30 miles away from it so I guess it's powered on.. Same thing happened last week and I had to go reboot it manually but it was on.
[04:41] <Pendrag0n> holstein: I'd like to try to keep an eye on each and everything copied, would like to have my hands in it, what can go wrong with changing the userid's?  and where are some of the places I would need to fix if I do this?
[04:41] <genii> evan_: Looks like manual reboot time then
[04:41] <evan_> genii: ughh
[04:42] <holstein> Pendrag0n: if you clone it, no where
[04:42] <Nmbr1> evan_: perhaps you have ping blocked by the router?
[04:42] <Nmbr1> evan_: what about trying a traceroute?
[04:43] <evan_> Nmbr1: i havejn'
[04:43] <Pendrag0n> holstein: I may be forced to go that route, but for now, I'd like to copy things manually.  I know i said clone, but it was the fastest way to articulate my situation, I don't LITERALLY want to clone everything, just 75%.  And I need to pick and choose things very carefully.
[04:43] <antimatroid> i can't seem to get my changes to compiz to take effect :s even the click to show desktop didn't work after restarting
[04:43] <Nmbr1> evan_: if it isn't blocked and it isn't responding then what genii said... time to reboot
[04:44] <holstein> Pendrag0n: grsync is a nice GUI front end to rsync
[04:44] <Pendrag0n> holstein: that is why i am asking about adding the users first, and changing user id's, so that the permissions work correctly
[04:44] <Pendrag0n> we have no gui, I am and this is an all putty deal. (bash)
[04:44] <holstein> Pendrag0n: i would clone, and edit data as needed
[04:44] <holstein> Pendrag0n: sure.. the just copy what you want.. im not clear on what you are asking
[04:45] <Pendrag0n> I know, ubuntu, but the first thing we did was remove the gui
[04:45] <holstein> Pendrag0n: you'll grab whatever user data you want.. and fix permissions as needed
[04:45] <evan_> If I set it to never sleep and turn off screensaver then will this not happen again?
[04:45] <holstein> Pendrag0n: as i said, grsync is a GUI front end to rsync, which is what you might want to use to copy the data.. rsync
[04:46] <Pendrag0n> I am just asking, if I add users manually, and go edit /etc/group to alter their group/user id's, what else do I have to change, and what can go wrong?
[04:46] <Pendrag0n> Oh I probably will use rsync
[04:46] <antimatroid> oh god, can i make alt tab go between open windows rather than apps too?
[04:46] <Pendrag0n> I just want to make sure the right users own the files once rsynced
[04:47] <holstein> Pendrag0n: you will check that manually
[04:47] <holstein> !chown | Pendrag0n
[04:47] <Pendrag0n> of course
[04:47] <Pendrag0n> I know that.
[04:47] <Pendrag0n> I am wondering like, let's say my user id on the old box is 17, but on the new box it's 19
[04:47] <holstein> Pendrag0n: then, that is the answer.. you will make sure the user permissions are correct manually
[04:47] <Pendrag0n> if I edit the file, and change my answer to 17, can that break too much?
[04:48] <Pendrag0n> I meant my id, not my answer, sorry, brain fart
[04:48] <holstein> Pendrag0n: it might break permissions that you are expecting, when can be "fixed" with the link above
[04:49] <Pendrag0n> true, I know chown inside and out, I just didn't know if it was considered, like an extream "no-no" to alter a user ID manually.
[04:49] <Nmbr1> Pendrag0n: that wouldn't break things so much as you could end up with mismatched permissions. If you are going to manually reassign  ids I would make sure your lowest new id is higher than the highest old id.
[04:50] <Pendrag0n> Makes sense Nmbr1
[04:50] <antimatroid> found an alt tab solution :)
[04:55] <evan_> Nmbr1: trace route says destination host unreachable... maybe it isn't powered on after all.. i hope it didn't die.. lol should've gone into the office today
[04:56] <Nmbr1> evan_: it doesn't sound like it is on... if this is a recurring problem it might be time for a new router
[04:58] <jiltdil> Is there any channel available for websphere?
[04:59] <Nmbr1> jiltdil: ##webshpere
[04:59] <jiltdil> Nmbr1, Oh! no one is there
[05:00] <evan_> Nmbr1: it's a managed cisco router at my office and I have a dedicated mining rig going 24x7, something is happening on Friday early morning to make this happen.  Maybe the router is rebooting or kicking me off for being on for a week?  Not sure.. I'm not the IT guy there I Just use the equipment hehe
[05:00] <Name141> What's the change to Mir going to mean for the user ?
[05:01] <Equinox3> awesomeness
[05:01] <Nmbr1> evan_: could be a dhcp lease problem. maybe your lease is expiring and the ip is being reassigned to a different device
[05:01] <Equinox3> afaik xorg breaks stuff all the time
[05:01] <Nmbr1> evan_: might be worth asking in ##networking
[05:02] <evan_> Nmbr1: that was my thought, I checked that and it's been keeping the same IP.  I went ahead and reserved it so that shouldn't change.. I think there's something cycling the power every week or kicking off all connections, who knows.
[05:02] <evan_> Nmbr1: just means I need to go in to the office on Saturday morning until I figure it out :)
[05:03] <evan_> little gremlins coming out of the drop ceilings and pulling cables out and stuff
[05:07] <bentinata> why I can't copy youtube video?
[05:08] <jiltdil> bentinata, Be specific, provide full info
[05:14] <bentinata> well, before this, I use pgrep
[05:15] <bentinata> and go to /proc/xxxx/fd and easily copying the video
[05:20] <jiltdil> IBM AIX channel please
[05:22] <holstein> jiltdil: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist
[05:22] <jiltdil> holstein, Thanks
[05:24] <iceroot> what permissions does ~/.ssh/known_hosts have by default? 644?
[05:25] <bentinata> Idk, maybe yes, if there's no executable there
[05:26] <paul_> Hey guys; which channel would i talk to about my problem running a game in wine?
[05:26] <paul_> don't want to be off-topic if this isn't a good place for it
[05:26] <holstein> paul_: try the wine channel
[05:26] <iceroot> paul_: #winehq
[05:27] <iceroot> !appdb | paul_
[05:27] <paul_> thanks guys, appreciate it
[05:29] <joubin> Has anyone here attempted to shrink the size of a ubuntu 12.04 server vm?
[05:29] <iceroot> !anyone | joubin
[05:30] <joubin> How do you shrink Ubuntu 12.04 server image so it is less than 1 GB
[05:30] <holstein> joubin: you can shrink or grow partitions
[05:30] <Alegreya> http://ubuntuforums.org/announce.html
[05:30] <Alegreya> *ALERT*
[05:30] <holstein> joubin: the install image is less than a gigabyte
[05:30] <iceroot> !gparted | joubin
[05:30] <iceroot> joubin: if you are talking about the installed system
[05:31] <joubin> iceroot: no. I dont mean the size of the drives.
[05:31] <iceroot> joubin: the iso is already smaller then 1 gb
[05:31] <joubin> Im talking about the amount of space it takes to have the base system
[05:31] <joubin> Installed it is not.
[05:31] <joubin> http://puu.sh/3HUkd.png
[05:31] <iceroot> joubin: so your real question is "is it possible to have a running ubuntu system which needs less then 1gb space"
[05:31] <joubin> fresh install
[05:31] <joubin> yes
[05:32] <iceroot> joubin: i am not sure if that is possible, maybe you should have a look at the minimal.iso and only select things you really need
[05:32] <iceroot> !minimal | joubin
[05:32] <joubin> iceroot: Didnt know that existed.
[05:32] <aeon-ltd> joubin: i'm pretty sure you can't get smaller than server + no install options for ubuntu anyway
[05:32] <joubin> Perfect
[05:32] <joubin> cheers
[05:33] <joubin> Ill try it
[05:33] <joubin> Because debian server fresh install is about 800 mb
[05:33] <Psil0cybin> Hey guys can someone help me figure out whoy sometimes randomly i boot into console instead of the GUI
[05:33] <Psil0cybin> when i turn on my computer
[05:34] <iceroot> joubin: my debian is even smaller then 500mb by default (expert install and remove what you not need)
[05:34] <Psil0cybin> it only happends randomly and usually works and goes into the GUI but sometimes it boots into a text terminal....and all i can do is restart to get it to work
[05:34] <Psil0cybin> I went to additional drivers, and had two drivers selected so i only selected the onld one thinking the new driver is causing errors, and still nothing
[05:34] <joubin> Psil0cybin: What version are you running?
[05:34] <Psil0cybin> 12.04
[05:35] <joubin> Is this a vm or a real machine?
[05:35] <Psil0cybin> real machine
[05:35] <Psil0cybin> it only randomly started happening since i updated
[05:36] <Psil0cybin> but i thought it was because my driver got updated so i unselected the new update and still it happends randomly
[05:36] <Psil0cybin> like here and there
[05:36] <joubin> hmm. Makes me think its driver
[05:36] <Psil0cybin> ill turn on my laptop and get the console
[05:36] <joubin> purge the driver
[05:36] <joubin> and reinstall it
[05:36] <Psil0cybin> but im using the old driver
[05:36] <Psil0cybin> that used to work
[05:36] <Psil0cybin> if it was the driver woudnt it happen every time
[05:36] <joubin> Is it possible that something got mis configured after the update?
[05:36] <Psil0cybin> how come sometimes it works?
[05:36] <Psil0cybin> I am not sure that is a good question joubin
[05:36] <holstein> Psil0cybin: if you think the driver is the issue, you could try using the vesa driver, and see if you still have the issue
[05:37] <joubin> Psil0cybin: Fail question.
[05:37] <joubin> fair*
[05:38] <joubin> Psil0cybin: I would recommend to look at dmesg next time it doesnt boot into the system
[05:38] <joubin> I mean the gui
[05:38] <Psil0cybin> all it does
[05:38] <Psil0cybin> is show me my login
[05:38] <Psil0cybin> so id login and do what?
[05:38] <Psil0cybin> where can i find the dmesg
[05:38] <joubin> run the command "dmesg "
[05:38] <Psil0cybin> oh
[05:38] <joubin> !dmesg | Psil0cybin
[05:38] <Psil0cybin> perfect
[05:38] <holstein> !enter > Psil0cybin
[05:38] <joubin> lol holstein
[05:39] <joubin> Psil0cybin: so in the log, you will see a bunch of stuff
[05:39] <joubin> Psil0cybin: look for anything to do with unity, gnome, x11
[05:39] <Psil0cybin> Okay
[05:39] <joubin> you might want to run, 'dmesg | less' and go through it
[05:39] <Psil0cybin> If i got into the GUI and did it now, would it still work or only when it fails a boot?
[05:40] <joubin> You might have warnings in there even if it boots normally which might help you.
[05:40] <joubin> But you will for sure see something that will help if it fails
[05:41] <Psil0cybin> okay thank you so much
[05:41] <joubin> No worries.
[05:41] <Psil0cybin> ill wait until it fails again lol its so random, blows my mind...if it actually is the driver id be so confused why it works on and off
[05:41] <joubin> Let me know how it goes
[05:41] <Psil0cybin> forsure :) thanks again that helped me alot
[05:41] <dfsld> how
[05:42] <holstein> Psil0cybin: it would work on an off becuase of random crashes
[05:43] <joubin> Psil0cybin: holstein is right. Drivers can randomly crash due to poor configuration. I've had a random audio driver that im too lazy to fix :D
[05:43]  * joubin netflix, thank you for subtitles. 
[05:44] <vader> Any cli masters here want to chime in on the vlc command to play a video on the framebuffer? The best I get is sound & caca vid :/
[05:44] <Psil0cybin> Okay thanks holstein and joubin that makes alot of sense now i get it.
[05:45] <konner> So after long periods of time, everything kinda just freezes, it seems responsive. I'm able to pause and play songs but nothing lets me do anything. I can't change windows, I can't click anything, i'm forced to reboot to get it working again
[05:45] <konner> I'm on Ubuntu 13.04 64 bit
[05:45] <holstein> konner: i would try booting an older kernel, if you just did an upgrade.. if not, look for and apply all upgrades
[05:46] <konner> I actually just did a clean install and did apt-get upgrade
[05:46] <holstein> konner: so, you should have an older kernel in the list, then
[05:46] <konner> I'll reboot and check
[05:46] <konner> brb
[05:47] <joubin> holstein: How did you undrestand konner. "I'm able to pause and play songs but nothing lets me do anything."
[05:47] <joubin> lol. Its getting late for me cuz I didnt even know what that was asking
[05:48] <konner> hopefully this fixes it.
[05:49] <konner> I've tried and tried to make Linux my main OS, since some of the games I play do work on here through wine, but I always run into instabilites.
[05:49] <Guest90211> what does "Could not demultiplex stream" mean and how can i fix it? Thank you
[05:50] <joubin> Guest90211: also known as crash What were you doing when you got that error
[05:50] <Guest90211> trying to play a movie on the factory ubuntu movie player
[05:50] <psilo> that's not necessarily a "crash" at all
[05:51] <psilo> Guest90211: I get random demuxing errors/warnings in mplayer output all the time during playback.  Is it actually affecting the playback?
[05:51] <joubin> no Guest90211 nicks was crash. I was saying Guest90211 also known as crash. Not sure why he changed nicks
[05:51] <konner> Do have a quick question. How is Kubuntu now a days? Back when I used it a few years ago it was crap.
[05:51] <psilo> joubin: ahhh
[05:52] <Guest90211> first time using xchat, still getting used to it
[05:52] <holstein> konner: in the future, consider doing the same as you do for windows.. purchase from a reseller, such as system76. with support, and hardware designe for linux support
[05:52] <joubin> konner: I still hate it
[05:52] <konner> I built my PC.
[05:52] <konner> I refuse OEMs
[05:52] <holstein> konner: kubuntu can be ran from a live CD..
[05:52] <joubin> konner: I dont like KDE but thats a preference thing.
[05:52] <holstein> konner: you can still visit the OEM's, and see what hardware they use.. an email to system76 would tell you what hardware they use
[05:53] <konner> true..
[05:53] <konner> I do really like how unity changes color to my wallpaper now, I haven't used 13.04 before.
[05:53] <joubin> Yeah, but do you all think its a hardware issue. Ubuntu has been REALLY good at hw compatibility in my experiance. Specially with main stream brands
[05:54] <konner> Well I do know I always have issues with my Radeon HD 7870.
[05:54] <konner> Poor OpenGL performance in everything
[05:54] <konner> Even with the proprietary drivers
[05:54] <mon2908> radeon or fglrx?
[05:54] <joubin> Yeah. Ive never owned graphic cards before. So I wouldnt know about gpu compatibility
[05:54] <konner> fglrx.
[05:55] <mon2908> I know why I have nvidia
[05:55] <holstein> konner: if you want a stable system, you should try and get some intel hardware that is really well supported, and just use it, and enjoy a stable linux environment for a bit..
[05:55] <konner> Yeah, my next PC is gonna be intel. I regret AMD
[05:56] <joubin> sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*
[05:56] <joubin> found that here
[05:56] <joubin> http://askubuntu.com/questions/283415/ubuntu-12-04-2-lts-boots-to-command-line-of-some-kind
[05:56] <joubin> may be related
[05:56] <joubin> reinstall after of course
[05:57] <konner> everyone thinks I'm weird for building a gaming PC and wanting to run linux. LOL
[05:57] <joubin> All of my friends do that. They just dual boot to windows for games and back to linux for development
[05:58] <konner> I was gonna but eh. I have a 120GB SSD and a 1TB HDD for data, I just dont like switching. I prefer one OS
[05:58] <joubin> 120. Thats random :D
[05:58] <konner> ikr haha. Samsung 840 series
[05:59] <Nmbr1> konner: if you don't want to switch, have you considered running ubuntu in vbox on a windows host?
[05:59] <mumpitzel> konner: if you insist on linux for gaming, your game selection will be quite limited
[05:59] <konner> I find virtualbox performance sluggish
[05:59] <konner> I always prefer native hardware
[05:59] <mumpitzel> konner: what cpu and mainboard do you have?
[05:59] <Nmbr1> meh just depends on how good your hardware is
[05:59] <konner> AMD FX-8350 and an Asus Crosshair V Formula Z
[06:00] <Nmbr1> i've done both can't say i have a preference
[06:00] <joubin> yeah. I find vms really fast so long as you have an ssd
[06:00] <mumpitzel> then you can use PCI passthrough. no need for crutches like desktop virtualization. you can use kvm, esxi or others
[06:00] <konner> I have 8GB DDR-2133 but the ram runs at 1600Mhz for some reason
[06:00] <vader> Any cli users here want to chime in on the vlc command to play a video on the framebuffer? The best I get is sound & caca vid :/
[06:00] <joubin> konner: My main machine is a macbook air and I run 2-3 Ubuntu vms for development. Never thought they were slow and my cpu is way slower than yours
[06:01] <konner> DDR3-2133 I mean.
[06:01] <konner> Idk maybe I'm just dumb with virtual machines.
[06:01] <joubin> vader: I looked at it. No idea. Sorry
[06:02] <joubin> konner: No, youre right that they are slower. Thats been my experience with non ssd machines. I also run them headless and ssh into them
[06:02] <konner> I installed Ubuntu for development. a friend and I are porting Android 4.3 from the Xperia Z to the Galaxy S III i747
[06:03] <holy_rain> Hey, anyone knows why this error message comes every time I boot up?
[06:03] <holy_rain> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5896306/
[06:04] <holy_rain> Why does the OS fail to enumerate USB devices?
[06:04] <holy_rain> As far as I know, all my USB ports are wroking fine.
[06:04] <vader> joubin: Thanks for the effort. Its driving me nuts. Man pages, web, IRC... all to no avail.
[06:04] <joubin> holy_rain: doesnt sounds like the ports are the issue. Sounds like whats connected to it
[06:05] <joubin> vader: I dont know much about video stuff. But do you mind me asking why you want to do this
[06:05] <joubin> this specific way tahat is
[06:05] <holy_rain> joubin: Eventhough I've connected anything to the USB port, still hows this error
[06:05] <holy_rain> joubin: *connected nothing
[06:06] <vader> joubin: stream videos/music
[06:06] <joubin> holy_rain: what does lsusb give you
[06:06] <joubin> !lsusb | vader
[06:07] <joubin> vader: to what though. Why the buffer>
[06:07] <vader> joubin: mostly for YouTube. Mplayer fails at that and the scripts I've tried for downloading from YouTube are hit and miss. I figured I'd give vlc a go.
[06:07] <holy_rain> joubin, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5896333/
[06:07] <joubin> holy_rain: and whats plugged in right now
[06:08] <vader> joubin: I'm loving the cli. I don't use X.
[06:08] <holy_rain> joubin, A usb mouse.
[06:08]  * joubin dont know why but that made me lol
[06:09] <joubin> and you get the error on boot
[06:09] <joubin> everytime
[06:09] <joubin> without fail
[06:09] <holy_rain> Yea.
[06:09] <joubin> has it always done this or did it start at some point
[06:09] <holy_rain> There are some strange things happening with my computer, one among them is this.
[06:10] <holy_rain> Its been like this for quite a while
[06:10] <holy_rain> I mean, for 2-3 weeks or so.
[06:10] <holstein> holy_rain: i would look at the hardware. you say "as far as i know, the hardware is fine".. how?
[06:10] <holstein> holy_rain: that could be a failing motherboard
[06:10] <holy_rain> Because every device connected to the USB ports works fine.
[06:11] <holstein> holy_rain: whats the issue then?
[06:11] <holy_rain> I just want to know why I'm getting this error.
[06:11] <holy_rain> There must obviously be something wrong.
[06:11] <joubin> sudo lspci
[06:11] <holstein> holy_rain: i see messages..
[06:12] <holstein> holy_rain: if it eventually comes up and works, i wouldnt worry about it
[06:12] <joubin> !lspci | holy_rain
[06:12] <holy_rain> joubin, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5896344/
[06:13] <drjeats> hey thar ubunters! if my liveCD boot process stalls at "* Stopping enable remaining boot-time encrypted block devices     [ OK ]", what should I start looking at to make it not stall?
[06:13] <drjeats> bg info: macbook pro3-1, ubuntu13.04, had to enable nomodeset in the grub commands
[06:13] <joubin> holy_rain: I have no idea. Everything looks normal and you say every USB port works
[06:14] <holy_rain> joubin, Yea, that's what puzzles me. I'd say a couple of things also.
[06:14] <holy_rain> joubin, My touchpad stopped working. Now it kind of acts strange.
[06:14] <holy_rain> joubin, If I enable it, it would do an 'autoclick'.
[06:15] <joubin> Hmm is the mouse you have bluetooth
[06:15] <joubin> the one you said is using one of your usb ports
[06:15] <holy_rain> joubin, means, if I put the mouse pointer on top of a folder and enable the touch pad, an infinite number of folders would open, I think you got what I meant to say.
[06:16] <holy_rain> joubin, No, it is a USB mouse.
[06:17] <holy_rain> joubin, And from last week, the 'tab' key is also behaving in a simiar fashion. It wouldn't work always, but when it works, If I'm typing something, I'll have a bad time taming it. :(
[06:17] <joubin> I think your system is trying to activate a bluetooth device that it cant find or has the wrong driver for. I would search around and see if you can get a list of drivers installed and correlate them with your hardware. See whats missing.
[06:17] <joubin> I take that back holstein was right. Bad mb.
[06:17] <joubin> :D
[06:18] <holy_rain> :(
[06:20] <holy_rain> joubin, and one more thing, now the system boots up with a loud scream.
[06:20] <holy_rain> joubin, So your final verdict-bad mother board? :'(
[06:20] <joubin> yeah. Also, next time, I would lead with that
[06:21] <joubin> :/
[06:21] <joubin> sorry mate.
[06:21] <holy_rain> joubin, its fine, nothing is going right for me these days.
[06:22] <Psil0cybin> holstein, joubin
[06:22] <joubin> Psil0cybin: yo
[06:22] <holy_rain> My pen drive crashed, my phone is about to die, now my laptop
[06:22] <Psil0cybin> it happend again and i did dmesg ill put it on pastebin
[06:22] <Psil0cybin> can you help me read it
[06:22] <joubin> Psil0cybin: sure
[06:22] <holy_rain> And I got dengue fever, on top of that.
[06:22] <Psil0cybin> thank you joubin one second
[06:22] <holy_rain> Fine, thanks for the efforts.
[06:23] <Psil0cybin> http://pastebin.com/MpGYpq9S
[06:23] <Psil0cybin> joubin,
[06:23] <joubin> k. Looking
[06:25] <Psil0cybin> thank you
[06:25] <Psil0cybin> i looked too but im still new to linux so i dont know what exactly to look for.
[06:27] <Psil0cybin> could it be this? [   30.648216] init: lightdm main process (1073) terminated with status 1
[06:27] <Psil0cybin> but i dont understand why its being terminated.
[06:27] <joubin> Okay
[06:28] <joubin> Yeah. I dont think anyone reads one of these and knows whats happening
[06:28] <joubin> so this is what I did.
[06:28] <joubin> line 874 looks intresting.
[06:28] <joubin> something terminating with status 1
[06:28] <joubin> 1 = fail
[06:28] <joubin> usually
[06:28] <Onixs> hey, just a quick Q… should swap must be in the beginning or end
[06:28] <joubin> googled the line
[06:28] <joubin> got this
[06:28] <joubin> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:R8hqNnk6z9sJ:ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1343012.html+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
[06:29] <joubin> ubuntu forums seems to be down
[06:29] <joubin> so Im looking at cached stuff
[06:29] <joubin> Looks like something with your kde, gnome, or unity
[06:29] <reisio> Onixs: doesn't matter
[06:29] <joubin> consider reinstalling
[06:29] <joubin> not the system
[06:29] <joubin> but the UI
[06:29] <reisio> joubin: you talking to someone?
[06:30] <joubin> reisio: yeah. to Psil0cybin
[06:30] <joubin> Psil0cybin: look above. :D
[06:30] <reisio> one tripped out mushy room
[06:30] <Psil0cybin> joubin, god damnit it worked perfectly fine until i updated
[06:30] <Psil0cybin> i use Xfce
[06:30] <Psil0cybin> i dont want to have to reconfigure it all >.<
[06:30] <Psil0cybin> is there any other way
[06:31] <joubin> Psil0cybin: Well, you might wanna hangout around this room until someone else has an idea. Im not a 100% sure thats why. Just a guess.
[06:31] <joubin> I would say you have something misconfigured
[06:32] <joubin> not sure what
[06:32] <Psil0cybin> hmmmm god darn >.< updates
[06:32] <joubin> Psil0cybin: I know it sounds harsh. But when I was new to Linux, I was reinstalling and reconfiguring once a week.
[06:32] <Psil0cybin> took our jerrrbs
[06:32] <Psil0cybin> really eh joubin
[06:33] <joubin> Only way to learn.
[06:33] <Psil0cybin> Yea i guess I just didnt think that a simple update could do such crazy things
[06:33] <Psil0cybin> I thought id have to mess around a file personally to cause this
[06:33] <Psil0cybin> with a file*
[06:33] <joubin> Well, it depends what youre doing.
[06:33] <joubin> as far as I know Xfce is not something that ships with ubuntu
[06:34] <joubin> so, you would have had to configure it
[06:34] <joubin> right?
[06:34] <joubin> uninstall unity and install xfce? Psil0cybin
[06:35] <reeed> Xubuntu = Xfce + Ubuntu
[06:35] <joubin> Psil0cybin: which update broke it
[06:35] <joubin> were you on 12.04 and went to 13
[06:35] <Psil0cybin> 3.2.0-49
[06:35] <Psil0cybin> no
[06:35] <Psil0cybin> im still on 12.04
[06:35] <FloodBot1> Psil0cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:35] <Psil0cybin> it was a kernal update
[06:36] <Psil0cybin> i went from 3.2.0-48 to 3.2.0-49
[06:36] <Psil0cybin> do you still think it could be a driver
[06:36] <Psil0cybin> or would it have specified?
[06:36] <wilee-nilee> joubin, for what its worth unity is a plugin in compiz on top of gnome 3 you can't just remove it.
[06:37] <joubin> Psil0cybin: might be worth looking into: http://www.linuxine.com/story/cannot-get-gui-320-49-generic-pae-worked-fine-320-48-generic-pae
[06:38] <Psil0cybin> I posted that joubin
[06:38] <Psil0cybin> aha
[06:38] <joubin> lol
[06:38] <Psil0cybin> :) before the forums got taken down no one could help me :(
[06:38] <joubin> thats funny
[06:38] <Psil0cybin> yea i was like
[06:38] <Psil0cybin> hmmmm this guy has the same exact problem
[06:38] <Psil0cybin> wait
[06:38] <Psil0cybin> those are my words and my typos lmao
[06:38] <FloodBot1> Psil0cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:39]  * joubin going to put in <enter> to show a return so I dont get yelled at by FloodBot1
[06:39] <joubin> so this one time at band camp <enter> I was going to do ... <enter> and I thought to <enter>
[06:40] <joubin> better FloodBot1?
[06:40] <Psil0cybin> ahaha i have such problems, i am <enter> trigger <enter> happy
[06:41] <joubin> Psil0cybin: I think it makes for an easier read. <enter> but I also understand that IRC cant have bunch of enter happy people. <enter> Otherwise, itll be a mad house
[06:41] <Psil0cybin> joubin, are there any other logs that could be helpful to me? to Diagnose this problem?
[06:41] <joubin> Psil0cybin: I would look in /var/log and look for anything related to your gui
[06:41] <lorddelta> Anyone know if its safe to install vlc 2.0.7 on ubuntu 12.0.4?
[06:42] <lorddelta> mine seems to be stuck at 2.0.5
[06:42] <wilee-nilee> yes
[06:42] <lorddelta> wilee-nilee: ok
[06:42] <joubin> Wow. Thats trust right there
[06:43] <al_nz1> So I setup a nat rule for SNAT on my linux machine (192.168.15.200) and made the rule --to-source 192.168.15.201 but from my windows machine I can still ping 192.168.15.200 ? and wireshark on the windows machine still shows a mixture of packets (broadcast and ping) coming from .201 ?
[06:43] <Ari-Yang> lorddelta, I recommend mplayer or mpv (new fork of mplayer/mplayer2)
[06:43] <lorddelta> joubin: I trust vlc, I don't know who wilee-nilee is but I choose to trust in people
[06:43] <joubin> specially to someone named wilee-nilee. No offense wilee-nilee
[06:43] <lorddelta> As misplaced as I know that trust is often is ;)
[06:43] <joubin> lol
[06:43] <joubin> I dont disagree. I was just having fun
[06:44] <lorddelta> Ari-Yang; please don't tell people that, I like vlc for a number of reasons, I was never able to get used to mplayer.
[06:44] <wilee-nilee> lorddelta, Dude I have been on this channel for years with 1000's of posts and about 15,000 at the uf
[06:44] <lorddelta> wilee-nilee: just explaining to joubin
[06:44] <Ari-Yang> lorddelta, sorry, I say it how it is :B VLC is still bad, though it has gotten better....I think
[06:44] <joubin> wilee-nilee: I'm sorry. I was just having fun with you nick. Usually implies lack of trust or flakey
[06:45] <wilee-nilee> lorddelta, I have them ignored they are well lets say special. ;)
[06:45] <innocent> Can someone explain to my my screen is off center, after installing xubuntu on my laptop?
[06:46] <cfhowlett> innocent, probably need to adjust your display resolution
[06:46] <mumpitzel> innocent: is it an old laptop?
[06:47] <Psil0Cybin> hmmm im so confused
[06:47] <Psil0Cybin> why this is happening i cant find any logs that can help me out, i am actually so confused its retarded :P
[06:48] <joubin> I would just live with it for a few days until people read your post.
[06:49] <Nimble> Psil0Cybin, you have an askubuntu entry for it?
[06:49] <Psil0Cybin> No would that be my best bet Nimble
[06:50] <Nimble> if no one here knows, it couldn't hurt
[06:51] <joubin> Nimble: is this your post http://askubuntu.com/questions/137875/tell-a-process-pid-by-its-window/138010#138010
[06:51] <joubin> Nimble: Helped me out
[06:51] <Nimble> yes
[06:51] <joubin> Cheers then
[06:52] <Nimble> np
[06:52] <kelly1> hello guys , i use pidgin to log in my hotmail account , friend of mine tried to sendto me picture , he said i send the pic many times but here in pidgin doed not show me any picture recive to me ? any idea
[06:52] <Nimble> funny, I needed to know that because I have a faulty wifi card and nm-applet spawned 500 windows asking me for my wifi password
[06:52] <Nimble> and I totally forgot it
[06:54] <lorddelta> Ari-Yang: sorry I don't mean to put down mplayer, maybe its great but I perfer vlc
[06:55] <Psil0Cybin> Okay guys i guess im going to go fiddle around tomorrow
[06:55] <Psil0Cybin> no point messing around now before i have to go to bed :P maybe tomorrow will be another day. Thanks everyone joubin, Nimble
[06:55] <Psil0Cybin> you guys are the tits.
[06:55] <Nimble> np
[06:55] <Nimble> good luck with your problem
[06:55] <Nimble> I've still got two hanging out unanwsered :)
[06:56] <Nimble> but we're in this together, eh
[06:56] <vader> Any cli users here want to chime in on the vlc command to play a video on the framebuffer? The best I get is sound & caca vid :/
[06:56] <Psil0Cybin> Thank you Nimble. yup :) Id rather take Ubuntu problems anyday then bill gates telling me how to run my computer and what i can and cannot do :)
[06:56] <hemangpatel> Hi
[06:56] <hemangpatel> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/07/countdown-appears-on-ubuntu-website  where ? it's gone ?
[06:57] <cfhowlett> hemangpatel, gone.  no further info.
[06:57] <reisio> #ubuntu-touch or something
[06:58] <hemangpatel> ok
[06:59] <delinquentme> for images to be browseable in nautilus ... does nautilus need to be part of some group?
[06:59] <delinquentme> or those images .. part of a group?
[07:00] <cfhowlett> delinquentme, not that I know of ...
[07:00] <delinquentme> cfhowlett, so I removed the 777 permission off a bunch of images which came from my phone
[07:00] <delinquentme> and now they're not veiwable through nautilus
[07:01] <mathfreak> delinquentme: 777 stands for read, write, and execute for all users. Removing those permissions means that no one can read those images (including nautilus)
[07:01] <delinquentme> I gave it 0644
[07:02] <delinquentme> this works fine for text files
[07:02] <cfhowlett> delinquentme, err.  try an alternate file browser to test your theory.  Or, are those files viewable outside of nautilus ... say with shotwell or something.
[07:02] <delinquentme> why not images?
[07:02] <delinquentme> yeah I can see them through bash
[07:02] <delinquentme> just not nautilus
[07:02] <cfhowlett> delinquentme, so then it can't be a permission issue would be my *guess* ...
[07:02] <stone_cold> I just downloaded Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit.. but the filename is ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso ... Does it support Intel chips
[07:02] <cfhowlett> stone_cold, yes it does support 64 bit
[07:02] <hemangpatel> may be : http://theboblego.imgur.com/all/
[07:02] <mathfreak> delinquentme: Have you tried reloading the directory in nautilus?
[07:02] <hemangpatel> or http://design.canonical.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_1644.jpg
[07:03] <drjeats> is seeing text appearing saying "* Starting LightDM Display Manager" with more following, eventually getting to "*Stopping enable remaining boot-time encrypted block devices" normal on boot? (liveCD)
[07:03] <delinquentme> mathfreak, I have =/
[07:03] <cfhowlett> !touch|hemangpatel,
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> !64bit | stone_cold
[07:04] <stone_cold> lotuspsychje: thanks... I was just confused when the filename as AMD...
[07:04] <mathfreak> delinquentme: Only thing I can think of now is clearing the .thumbnails folder in your home directory to force nautilus to create new thumbnails for those images.
[07:05] <cfhowlett> mathfreak, good one.  I didn't think of that.
[07:05] <cfhowlett> stone_cold, you and most of us.  not to worry.
[07:06] <delinquentme> mathfreak, so I just opened it with $gksudo nautilus
[07:06] <delinquentme> and they're all there
[07:06] <cfhowlett> !cookie|mathfreak,
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: you can also eat a cookie yourself :p
[07:08] <delinquentme> haha well that doesnt fix the issue
[07:08] <mathfreak> delinquentme: You mean the thumbnails for the images are there, right?
[07:08] <delinquentme> correct
[07:08] <syn-ack> Good evening.
[07:08] <delinquentme> and I can open / view them as I can normally
[07:08] <cfhowlett> syn-ack, greetings
[07:09] <redintellect> hi
[07:09] <delinquentme> I am seeing this (totem-video-thumbnailer:3185): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_date_new_dmy: assertion `g_date_valid_dmy (day, m, y)' failed
[07:09] <delinquentme> in the output from the bash which activated gksudo nautilus
[07:09] <redintellect> I have serious problems installing another linux alongside my ubuntu
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> delinquentme: i get warnings like that on sux aswell, i wouldnt care too much
[07:10] <cfhowlett> delinquentme, wonder if this could be a naming issue on those imported files .. perhaps a leading non-readable character?
[07:10] <redintellect> I mean is the installation on default (take all the hard disk) an encrypted installation or something?
[07:10] <delinquentme> cfhowlett, but then it would be an issue across all instances of nautilus then no?
[07:10] <delinquentme> If I can see the images w the sudo version of nautilus ... then Im thinking its some kind of weird permission issue
[07:11]  * cfhowlett ... is currently in deep ponder mode ...
[07:11] <mathfreak> delinquentme: Hmm... looks like root gets its own .thumbnails directory when you run nautilus with superuser privileges. Perhaps nautilus generated new thumbnails when you visited that directory for the first time as root?
[07:12] <cfhowlett> delinquentme, leave gksudo and test if they show up in your normal nautilus
[07:12] <delinquentme> so ~/.thumbnails regenerates if I delete it?
[07:12] <delinquentme> cfhowlett, they currently dont
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> !info sux | delinquentme
[07:13] <stone_cold> cfhowlett: roger that bro
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> delinquentme: try the same sux user nautilus
[07:13] <mathfreak> delinquentme: Yes. .thumbnails will regenerate
[07:18] <delinquentme> lotuspsychje, sorry I dont understand
[07:19] <delinquentme> download this util ?  $ sudo sux xauth:  creating new authority file /root/.Xauthority
[07:19] <delinquentme> shit. I dont think I meant to do that?
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> delinquentme: i just seen those warnings like you got
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> delinquentme: sux username totem (example)
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> delinquentme: would open totem for another user from your current desktop (see if you get same warnings)
[07:21] <xubuntu_-F_reAk> Can someone help me please
[07:21] <xubuntu_-F_reAk> Everytime I go to log into xubuntu, i type in my password, then it comes up with a session thing, if I click default then I don't get a taskbar, so I have to restart/log out of it to the select new session so I get a task bar,
[07:22] <xubuntu_-F_reAk> HELP!!!!!
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> !patience | xubuntu_-F_reAk
[07:22] <Shed-34046> Why won't compiz work in xubuntu running with 512mb of ram in virtual box?
[07:23] <reisio> Shed-34046: did you give it any graphics access?
[07:23] <Shed-34046> reisio how do i do this?
[07:23] <reisio> in general acceleration in a virtualized guest is tricky
[07:23] <cfhowlett> Shed-34046, because it's virtualbox i.e. virtual gpu is my guess
[07:23] <reisio> Shed-34046: in the settings for the VM
[07:23] <taek> Shed-34046: In most cases you wont get graphics acceleration in virtualbox
[07:23] <reisio> I don't know about most cases
[07:23] <reisio> but you might have to give it what it requires
[07:24] <Shed-34046> under display?
[07:24] <taek> Even in windows, you get the same issue
[07:24] <reisio> and it won't be worth it except to prove you can do it
[07:24] <reisio> Shed-34046: I forget
[07:24] <Shed-34046> My graphics card is amd raedion 3200.
[07:24] <reisio> guest additions plays a role, too
[07:24] <taek> ^
[07:25] <Shed-34046> By the looks of it under display it says virtual box only gives it 12mb of video memory
[07:25] <Shed-34046> And it won't let me change that
[07:25] <taek> Shed-34046: did you install the linux guest additions?
[07:25] <Shed-34046> yes
[07:26] <reisio> your graphics hardware might not have anything to spare
[07:26] <taek> THen I am affraid your hard ware might not support it. (IE Processor Emulation Mode)
[07:26] <cfhowlett> Shed-34046, the default video memory is 12.  to change that you'd have to create a new VM and set it
[07:26] <cobra-the-joker> Hey guys ... i am using ububntu 12.04 here .... and the flash player doesnt seem to accept mouse clicks ... any help ?
[07:26] <reisio> oh
[07:26] <reisio> you can't change a lot of settings while the guest is running, too
[07:26] <Mammutpanzer> Hello great community. I would like to know how to check the integrity of sudo apt-get install, sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade. Can anyone help me?
[07:26] <taek> ^
[07:26] <reisio> gotta stop it first
[07:26] <Shed-34046> How much video memory does compiz require?
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> !aptitude | Mammutpanzer
[07:27] <cfhowlett> Mammutpanzer, integrity?  meaning what?  integrity checking is built in to apt ...
[07:27] <reisio> Shed-34046: more than 0
[07:27] <delinquentme> http://pastie.org/8160493
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> cobra-the-joker: what you mean by mouse-clicks? can you define your issue specific?
[07:27] <taek> Shed-34046: Correctly shutdown the Virtual Machine, then attempt to adjust the graphics settings.
[07:27] <delinquentme> what the helllll
[07:27] <delinquentme> also this is crazy:
[07:28] <Shed-34046> taek is 20mb enough for compiz?
[07:28] <cobra-the-joker> lotuspsychje: i opened this game ... and it wont allow me to click either "allow " or" deny " on the box inside the flash object
[07:28] <delinquentme> http://pastie.org/8160495
[07:28] <delinquentme> check out the bottom one ... thats what I get when I ls -l /old_phone_pics
[07:28] <reisio> Shed-34046: either it will be or it won't be
[07:28] <delinquentme> whaaaaat
[07:28] <reisio> #vbox would have more details
[07:28] <taek> Shed-34046: Probably not.
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> cobra-the-joker: did you try different browsers?
[07:29] <cobra-the-joker> i only have firefox
[07:29] <Shed-34046> I googled it said compiz requires 3D Acceleration.. Enabled it in virtual box seeing if compiz work now.
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> cobra-the-joker: you could try google-chrome, maybe its the game itself thats bad?
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> cobra-the-joker: other flash working flawless like youtubes?
[07:31] <Mammutpanzer> cfhowlett: Well if I download and install software via sudo apt-get install I know it downloads the software. However as far as I know there is no control over if the data send is corrupted or not. I know someone could change the software I download and then my computer is compromised. I read at debian about apt-secure and the apt-secure man page but that didn't help me. I would like to know if I can check that the software I do
[07:31] <cobra-the-joker> lotuspsychje: the problem is that when i have this "allow,deny" dialog ... you cant click on it
[07:31] <cobra-the-joker> https://apps.facebook.com/jetpackjoyride/?fb_source=bookmark_apps&ref=bookmarks&count=0&fb_bmpos=2_0
[07:32] <cobra-the-joker> see for yourself
[07:32] <Mammutpanzer> When I do updates I also want to be sure the files are correct
[07:32] <Shed-34046> Just got this error in terminal when going to enable compiz
[07:32] <Shed-34046> compiz (core) - Error: Failed to load plugin: ccp
[07:32] <cfhowlett> Mammutpanzer, all software is run through a md5sum hash sum check.  you can manually download and then check each package but apt does that for you...
[07:33] <cfhowlett> Mammutpanzer, don't know about apt-secure, but it would take a pretty good hack to infect a package and NOT have the hash check detect the change
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> cobra-the-joker: i never user fb sorry, i would go for another browser to try out
[07:35] <Mammutpanzer> cfhowlett isn't md5 not save? I read wikipedia and they say it is broken. I would like to use SHA-1 at least better SHA-256 and if I could SHA-512
[07:35] <Mammutpanzer> *is
[07:35] <Chinese_GirLz> oh syrian dudes
[07:35] <Guest17133> ciao
[07:35] <Guest17133> !list
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> !it | Guest17063
[07:36] <delinquentme> does there happen to be a " clone all access permissions of a file " type command?
[07:36] <delinquentme> Im guessing chmod and chown cover it?
[07:36] <delinquentme> or are there more?
[07:36] <antimatroid> has anyone managed to get the weather indicator to work in 12.04?
[07:36] <reisio> delinquentme: tar
[07:36] <antimatroid> reviews don't look very promising on that front :(
[07:36] <reisio> antimatroid: what's it do?
[07:36] <cfhowlett> Mammutpanzer, over my head.  but exactly how many instances have you heard of infected packages being delivered via the repositories in ubuntu?  Do a  bit of research before you submit to the paranoia?
[07:37] <Coolmariodude> What does error "compiz (core) - Error: Failed to load plugin: ccp" mean?
[07:37] <reisio> cfhowlett: :p
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> antimatroid: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/05/list-of-22-application-indicators-for.html
[07:37] <reisio> Coolmariodude: means it couldn't load something it calls ccp
[07:37] <syn-ack> Coolmariodude, just what it says
[07:37] <wilee-nilee> antimatroid, There is a nice weather extension in the gnome-shell, not sure why that one does not work or another made for unity.
[07:38] <delinquentme> reisio, are you sure? tar is a zipping util .....
[07:38] <Coolmariodude> Please forgive me for not knowing much about linux haven't used any linux since ubuntu 10.10
[07:38] <syn-ack> tar is an archiving utility
[07:38] <reisio> for tapes!
[07:38] <syn-ack> zip is just one of the many things it can do
[07:38] <UnHolyTerror> Coolmariodude, ccp is Compiz Control Program
[07:38] <syn-ack> reisio, I miss those days. :/
[07:38] <Coolmariodude> So i have to something like a sudo apt-get install ccp and see if that is a package?
[07:38] <reisio> doesn't do ZIP, AFAIK
[07:39] <reisio> syn-ack: they still exist if you're rich enough, apparently
[07:39] <syn-ack> reisio, it can, just not directly.
[07:39] <cfhowlett> Coolmariodude, apt-cache policy ccp*  might tell you something
[07:39] <reisio> syn-ack: ?
[07:39] <reisio> delinquentme: what're you after exactly?
[07:40] <Mammutpanzer> cfhowlett there are many reasons I switched from Windows (yes I  have been using Windows for years :( ) to Ubuntu (kUbuntu to be more specific). To name a few open source, free software, security
[07:40] <syn-ack> reisio, tar will hand it off to gzip to zip a file.
[07:40] <cfhowlett> Mammutpanzer, OK ... not that I asked :)
[07:40] <reisio> that's _g_zip, though :p
[07:40] <delinquentme> reisio, I've got image in a folder which arent showing up in nautilus
[07:41] <delinquentme> and Ive confirmed they're there with bash ... but I'd like to be able to view them via nautilus
[07:41] <UnHolyTerror> Coolmariodude, no - I confused it with ccm... sorry!
[07:42] <reisio> delinquentme: what does 'file path/to/image' say?
[07:42] <histo> delinquentme: does the directory they are in start with a period?
[07:42] <delinquentme> reisio, error cant open
[07:42] <ss_haze> is this true ? http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/07/21/0318243/ubuntuforumsorg-hacked
[07:42] <delinquentme> histo, nope :D
[07:42] <reisio> delinquentme: well that's not a good sign
[07:43] <reisio> ss_haze: http://ubuntuforums.org/
[07:43] <delinquentme> reisio, ERROR: cannot open `old_phone_pics/IMG955293.png' (Permission denied)
[07:43] <delinquentme> even though the current user owns that file and that dir
[07:43] <ss_haze> reisio: damn slashdot
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> !ot | ss_haze
[07:43] <reisio> delinquentme: ls -al old_phone_pics/IMG*png
[07:44] <reisio> ss_haze: ?
[07:44] <delinquentme> reisio, a number of permission denied
[07:45] <histo> delinquentme: ls -l old_phone_pics
[07:45] <reisio> delinquentme: okay, must be the dir, then
[07:46] <reisio> delinquentme: probably you'd want to sudo chown -R youruser:youruser old_phone_pics
[07:46] <reisio> delinquentme: assuming you don't need to preserve the original permissions
[07:46] <mathfreak> delinquentme: Hey, I just looked at the pastebin. What you need to do is set the execute bit for old_phone_pics directory
[07:47] <taek> mathfreak: I don't think so.
[07:47] <taek> Why would one set execute to a folder.
[07:48] <delinquentme> mathfreak, thats 0777 right?
[07:48] <delinquentme> erm no 0644
[07:48] <mathfreak> delinquentme: Should be 0755
[07:48] <chunkyhead> UBUNTU HACKED? whhaaaat?
[07:48] <reisio> taek: mkdir foo && ls -al foo
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> !ot | chunkyhead
[07:48] <chunkyhead> ok lotuspsychje
[07:48] <taek> ???
[07:48] <reisio> chunkyhead: some aspect of the site ubuntuforums.org was hacked
[07:49] <taek> reisio: that's the execute bit?
[07:49] <reisio> probably the proprietary forum system
[07:49] <mathfreak> taek: The read bit lets you read filenames in a directory. write lets you create files. execute lets you cd into directories and other things
[07:49] <reisio> taek: what is?
[07:49] <delinquentme> mathfreak, reisio it looks like $ sudo chown -R thrive:thrive old_phone_pics didnt do the trick
[07:49] <chunkyhead> come to ubuntu-offtopic
[07:49] <reisio> delinquentme: probably what mathfreak said, then
[07:49] <taek> chmod 755 folder_name
[07:50] <mathfreak> taek: e.g. if I don't have the execute bit set, you can ls <directory>, but you can't do things like cd <directory>.
[07:50] <reisio> well, 755 is shorthand
[07:50] <reisio> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/permissions.html
[07:50] <PaintBucket> Hello
[07:50] <reisio> hi PaintBucket
[07:50] <cfhowlett> PaintBucket, greetings
[07:50] <PaintBucket> I think I've found the cause of my audio/video skipping.. kind of.
[07:50] <taek> Never heard of this execute bit as i've never had any issue with cd commands :D
[07:51] <PaintBucket> It seems that it happens when something's going on in the background.
[07:51] <delinquentme> mathfreak, +1!!!!!!1
[07:51] <wasabi> Wow. Samba4 on raring is messe dup.
[07:51] <reisio> taek: you probably never copied weird files weirdly off a phone, then :p
[07:51] <PaintBucket> So, I don't think it's directly an issue with audio but maybe with something hanging?
[07:51] <mathfreak> taek: Yeah, I had to play with the permission bits on directories a few times to understand what did what.
[07:52] <taek> reisio: a weird way?. in most phones now you just mount the storage device (ie phone)
[07:53] <mathfreak> delinquentme: Glad to see that. :D
[07:53] <reisio> taek: probably why you haven't experienced this
[07:53] <taek> I suppose so. :D but good information to know.
[07:54] <PaintBucket> How do I check the logs for hangs?
[07:54] <reisio> PaintBucket: what's the problem?
[07:54] <delinquentme> MATHFREAK I RUV YEWWWWWWWW
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> !caps | delinquentme
[07:55] <PaintBucket> I've got audio/video stutter but, I think it's caused by things happening in the background.
[07:55]  * mathfreak loves yew trees as well.
[07:55] <PaintBucket> Like, I notice it when I load something often
[07:55] <reisio> PaintBucket: audio alone stutters?
[07:56] <PaintBucket> Yeah, it's mostly audio. Video seems to occasionally too.
[07:56] <delinquentme> oh :D
[07:56] <PaintBucket> i'll load something else and look at it.
[07:56] <reisio> PaintBucket: audio on its own without video?
[07:57] <PaintBucket> reisio: Yeah, even just audio.
[07:57] <reisio> mmm, weird
[07:57] <taek> wrong drivers?
[07:57] <reisio> PaintBucket: what about just video?
[07:57] <taek> wrong codecs?
[07:57] <reisio> mplayer -nosound foo.video
[07:57] <PaintBucket> hard to tell. it's not nonstop.
[07:58] <UnHolyTerror> PaintBucket, what sound system?
[07:59] <PaintBucket> Pulseaudio
[07:59] <PaintBucket> though i know it's not pulse causing it. Iv'e had this issue with my previous install and took pulse out and alsa still stuttered.
[08:00] <UnHolyTerror> Rarely from time to time if I get Audio/Video glitches I have to reload ALSA to straighten it out.
[08:02] <UnHolyTerror> PaintBucket, try: gksudo alsa force-reload
[08:02] <zipy> hey, how do i sync after dd cmd, simply type sync?
[08:04] <PaintBucket> okay
[08:04] <PaintBucket> I'll try this.
[08:06] <PaintBucket> Nope, still doing it.
[08:07] <UnHolyTerror> PaintBucket, System specs?
[08:07] <PaintBucket> It's persistent through reboots. It went away after a while during my last install. Though, I'm not sure at all what I did. I thought it was an update and fix but, apparently not.
[08:15] <yimmon> hello
[08:15] <reisio> hi
[08:17] <blue_pearl> so Ubuntu forums got hacked and usernames, hashed password and email stolen!
[08:18] <reisio> blue_pearl: yup, we're here on the internet, too
[08:18] <reisio> of all that only the hashed password wasn't really already public knowledge
[08:18] <reisio> people who don't use the same password everywhere have nothing to worry about
[08:19] <reisio> and people who do have more to worry about than this incident
[08:19] <reisio> and always will :p
[08:19] <goddard> ubuntu forums were hacked by microsoft loyalists
[08:19] <taek> like me@ ^^
[08:19] <goddard> ubuntu supports it is time to take down the death star!
[08:19] <reisio> heh
[08:19] <goddard> attack rebels!
[08:19] <goddard> :D
[08:19] <reisio> was probably "hacked" by someone who hates vbulletin
[08:19] <Onixs> hacked
[08:19] <Onixs> lol
[08:20] <taek> Not one service that I use has the same password, unless it's a service I don't care about
[08:20] <blue_pearl> reisio, saw the news just few minutes ago...well generally no one uses same password everywhere....but i fear i will get a huge spam as emails were also stolen.
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> guys lets stick to ubuntu support
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[08:20] <Onixs> later that
[08:20] <reisio> blue_pearl: you'd get that anyways, if you use email, at all
[08:21] <blue_pearl> goddard, hahahah..like that
[08:21] <punzilla> Hi can I please have some assistance restoring my sound?
[08:21] <blue_pearl> reisio, yep thats true.
[08:21] <reisio> punzilla: where'd it go?
[08:21] <punzilla> well yesterday, it was working today it isn't.
[08:22] <taek> punzilla: anything change between the time?
[08:22] <reisio> s/anything change/what'd you change/
[08:22] <punzilla> no, nothing that I can think of has changed.
[08:22] <punzilla> the device is plugged in.
[08:22] <punzilla> powered on.
[08:22] <taek> well something has.. maybe mute is on punzilla ?
[08:23] <punzilla> nope mute is not on.
[08:23] <taek> volume is turned up in the system?
[08:23] <taek> does it reconize the audio device ?
[08:23] <punzilla> yeah, it's turned up both on the system.
[08:23] <punzilla> yes it does.
[08:24] <taek> media player volume is up?
[08:24] <punzilla> yes
[08:24] <taek> have you tried multiple sources of audio
[08:24] <reisio> plug your speakers in! :p
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> punzilla: any logs give errors?
[08:24] <punzilla> speakers are in :)
[08:25] <taek> different programs, pandora, youtuber, mplayer, VLC
[08:25] <taek> etc
[08:26] <taek> punzilla: have you tried a system restart since this first occured?
[08:26] <cfhowlett> punzilla, try different plugin ports and also try headphones
[08:26] <punzilla> yes I've tried at least 3 system restarts.
[08:27] <taek> Can your speakers receive audio from other devices (ie ipod, mp3player, etc)
[08:28] <punzilla> hang on a moment I'll try, they should though one tic.
[08:30] <punzilla> speakers work
[08:30] <taek> OKay punzilla, test headphones or an alternative audio port
[08:30] <punzilla> tested ok with phone
[08:32] <hjubal> Hi, any idea why I need to remove and add "wl" module multiple times before I can ping any host?
[08:32] <punzilla> no luck
[08:32] <taek> hjubal: have you checked the logs for anything replating to it.
[08:33] <punzilla> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5896606/
[08:33] <punzilla> that's my syslog
[08:33] <taek> hope it's not too big..
[08:33] <taek> punzilla: is your audio device running via a USB Donggle?
[08:34] <punzilla> no, it's running via a plugged in card
[08:34] <taek> PCI(e) device?
[08:34] <taek> or onboard?
[08:34] <punzilla> PCI device
[08:34] <scratch_> helo
[08:35] <punzilla> SB Audigy 2 ZS (SB0350) is what it's reported as in ubuntu
[08:35] <reisio> 'lo scratch_
[08:36] <taek> punzilla:
[08:36] <punzilla> yes
[08:36] <taek> in your pastebin link starting at line 80 through 82 -
[08:36] <punzilla> yes
[08:36] <taek> punzilla:  have you recently updated your system?
[08:37] <punzilla> I run the daily software updates from Ubuntu
[08:37] <hjubal> taek, yes, apparently every time I can connect to the wifi without error, but the access is somehow "limited"
[08:38] <hjubal> taek, please, see: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5896621/
[08:38] <punzilla> could it be that a kernel update may have broken my system?
[08:38] <punzilla> and if so, is there a way that I can choose an earlier version?
[08:38] <taek> Kernel or driver, in this case it looks like the pulse-audio driver is having issues.
[08:42] <cfhowlett> punzilla, possible.  reboot and select "earlier version" of ubuntu at grub menu
[08:42] <taek> hjubal: I acutally don't see an issue with your log.
[08:42] <cfhowlett> punzilla, but first run sudo apt-get update  && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | cfhowlett
[08:43] <punzilla> alright I'll try the sudo apt-get ... option frist
[08:43] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje   :)
[08:43] <punzilla> then I'll try and select an earlier version ...
[08:43] <taek> hjubal: How long have you had this issue?
[08:43] <NewbtoArch> is there a way to restart the terminal with a terminal command
[08:44] <cfhowlett> NewbtoArch, sudo restart
[08:44] <NewbtoArch> with having to use the mouse
[08:44] <NewbtoArch> ^without
[08:44] <cfhowlett> NewbtoArch, no NO not that
[08:44] <punzilla> thanks cfhowlett
[08:44] <cfhowlett> punzilla, best of luck.
[08:44] <punzilla> I'll give it a shot.
[08:44] <NewbtoArch> cfhowlett: ?
[08:44] <cfhowlett> NewbtoArch, ignore my command
[08:45] <cfhowlett> NewbtoArch, but why restart the terminal?  just open another tab ...
[08:45] <NewbtoArch> close and open gain
[08:45] <NewbtoArch> again
[08:45] <taek> NewbtoArch: Why would you need to "restart" terminal?
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> punzilla: something similar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/893258
[08:46] <punzilla> oh ok I'l have a quick look :)
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> punzilla: what ubuntu version did you have again?
[08:47] <punzilla> I am running 13.10
[08:47] <NewbtoArch> im usung urxvt and after a change the config I need to restart it
[08:47] <hjubal> taek, indeed, me neither, it's a new laptop with a broadcom B43xx wifi card :/
[08:47] <standoo> what are some good bandwidth monitors for ubuntu server?
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> right :p
[08:47] <punzilla> and I know that it's officially unsupported :)
[08:47] <punzilla> yeah
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> !13.10 | punzilla
[08:47] <punzilla> ooh
[08:48] <taek> hjubal: is it a USB wifi adapter, or internal, also which driver is being used for it in the "additional Drivers"
[08:51] <taek> Cheers varunendra
[08:51] <hjubal> taek, it is internal (http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5896648/)
[08:51] <varunendra> hey taek ! :)
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> !b43 | hjubal
[08:53] <varunendra> hjubal, wireless issues on 13.04 ?
[08:53] <taek> with b43xx it's uslly a driver issue
[08:53] <taek> and ubuntu comes with two in the additional drivers app
[08:53] <hjubal> taek, btw I don't know how to access "additional Drivers" using Xfce ;)
[08:53] <taek> Me either :(
[08:54] <varunendra> taek, hjubal you already have the proprietary one that the "additional drivers" will offer. Is it 13.04 ?
[08:54] <hjubal> yeah, it's 13.04
[08:55] <taek> varunendra: anytime I used a system with a b43xx adapter, i've always had to go with the fwcutter method
[08:56] <varunendra> hjubal, try this then (will bring your wireless down momentarily) - "sudo ifconfig eth1 down" ..... then " sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source". ..... then ... "sudo modprobe -v brcmsmac"
[08:57] <hjubal> taek, varunendra the weird thing it's that after I remove and add wl module 2-5 times it starts working
[08:57] <varunendra> taek that card is not supported by b43
[08:57] <crazybrain> guys i am facing problem with my ubuntu
[08:58] <varunendra> hjubal, your card is supported by both the proprietary wl driver and the native brcmsmac. But wl doesn't work as good as the brcmsmac with it.
[08:58] <crazybrain> I have a two ports for headphone one is for speaker and other is for mic,,I inserted my headphone in it but when i go to sound settings it does not shows any option for audio
[08:58] <irssi-mike> I just installed openoffice.org and I can't find "writer." can't seem to google where it is. do i need libreoffice instead?
[08:59] <crazybrain> for microphone
[08:59] <crazybrain> It tells that to be blank
[08:59] <hjubal> varunendra, just to understand, "bcmwl" is the open-source driver, so you suggest me to remove it and go with the proprietary one, am I right?
[09:00] <taek> irssi-mike: which ubuntu version?
[09:00] <crazybrain> guys help me
[09:00] <varunendra> hjubal, no it's the other way around. bcmwl (wl) is the proprietary one (and doesn't work nicely with your particular card).
[09:01] <cfhowlett> taek, what card do you have?
[09:01] <cfhowlett> irssi-mike, libre office writer is the default
[09:01] <hjubal> varunendra, got it! ;)
[09:01] <taek> cfhowlett: I don't use any BC cards any longer
[09:02] <varunendra> hjubal, if you didn't install it via "additional drivers", it must have got installed during installation of Ubuntu when you chose to "install 3rd party softwlar".
[09:02] <reisio> irssi-mike: you install it with a command?
[09:02] <sandra_> Hello, I got open source UVD working on 13.04 with 3.11 kernel, new mesa and firmware. Anyone know if the daily build of saucy has this by default yet?
[09:02] <hjubal> varunendra, I don't like using gui, sorry
[09:03] <cfhowlett> !saucy|sandra_,
[09:03] <Marcus_> Hellow, I need help installing a grub on a read-only filesystem (HDD), how I do?
[09:03] <reisio> Marcus_: #grub
[09:04] <Ori> Hello, I can't access my localhost. http://pastebin.com/DhK8HHDH
[09:04] <varunendra> hjubal, didn't get the gui thing. Was it related to something else ?
[09:04] <hjubal> varunendra, could I run "modprob -r wl" and "modprobe brcmsmac" to achieve the same result?
[09:04] <taek> Ori: #apache
[09:04] <vader> Any cli users here want to chime in on the vlc command to play a video on the framebuffer? The best I get is sound & caca vid :/
[09:05] <Ori> taek: Makes sense. Thanks
[09:05] <taek> at anyrate, Ori remove NameVirtualServer 127.0.0.1
[09:05] <taek> and then service apache2 restart
[09:05] <varunendra> hjubal, maybe, but I suspect the wl configuration may interfere. Besides, brcmsmac is well tested on 13.04. But trying won't hurt :)
[09:05] <Ori> ok will try that
[09:05] <hjubal> I mean, I could blacklist wl if it works
[09:06] <hjubal> varunendra, I need to be careful, as this c**py laptop doesn't have any wired card
[09:06] <taek> hjubal: No RJ-45 Jack?
[09:06] <hjubal> varunendra, thanks, I'll give it a try on next boot
[09:07] <hjubal> taek, nope
[09:07] <varunendra> hjubal, I am fairly confident with brcmsmac, but don't you have another system around with a working wireless?
[09:07] <taek> Good Luck :D
[09:07] <hjubal> taek, it was my fault, I did't check as I gave it for sure :/
[09:08] <hjubal> varunendra, no, I remove win8 as I don't use it
[09:09] <varunendra> hjubal, you may use "apt-get install --print-uris bcmwl-kernel-source" command to get URIs of the required packages to use them on another computer to download manually. Then you can manually install them with "sudo dpkg -i *" command.
[09:10] <hjubal> taek, varunendra how does Ubuntu decide which module to load if both brcmsmac and bcmwl support my wireless card?
[09:10] <varunendra> hjubal, but I think you may also have the packages cached in the "/var/cache/apt/archives" directory.
[09:11] <varunendra> hjubal, mostly it is about priority. But the wl driver also 'Blacklists' all other contending drivers. That's another reason why we need to purge it.
[09:12] <Neodiablow> Hi, I'm looking for the package referenced by this documentation : http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man4/pf.4.html
[09:12] <Neodiablow> but I can't find the package for ubuntu with apt-get
[09:13] <Neodiablow> any idea where I can find the sources?
[09:13] <taek> package is pf.
[09:13] <cfhowlett> Neodiablow, as it's end of life ...
[09:13] <taek> Neodiablow: anyhow - http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages.gz/hardy/man4/pf.4.gz
[09:13] <taek> might be wrong link bht try it\
[09:15] <Neodiablow> taek: I'm looking for the software not the man page :)
[09:15] <thechris> anyone here good with troubleshooting sshd?
[09:16] <thechris> basically, I'm trying to connect to a nas box using a private key, but can't.
[09:16] <thechris> on my end, the correct key is being used.
[09:17] <thechris> but I've got no idea what the server is doing, other than it supports publickey, and also has RSA enabled
[09:17] <taek> thechris did you do add-ssh key /path/to/key.pub ?
[09:18] <thechris> taek, no that command doesn't exist on the nas
[09:19] <ndou> ciao
[09:19] <taek> Is the NAS running Ubuntu?
[09:19] <ndou> !list
[09:19] <thechris> taek: no, its running nas4free
[09:20] <thechris> which is running sshd
[09:20] <taek> Has nothing to do with Ubuntu then.
[09:21] <thechris> so what does "add key" do then?
[09:21] <taek> It allows you to ssh/sftp into a server that requires a key.pub file
[09:21] <besp> The 2> construction isn't working for me in bash. For example if I do `time wc file 2>time.out`, the time output still goes to my terminal and time.out is empty. How can I redirect stderr to a file?
[09:22] <thechris> apparently this isnt' the channel to ask linux questions
[09:22] <taek> This is for ubuntu Specific.
[09:23] <thechris> ok, what are some good non-ubuntu channels for general linux/sshd help?
[09:23] <varunendra> besp, it should work. Are you sure it is stderr and not stdout?
[09:23] <taek> you can try with #sshd
[09:24] <taek> not sure if there's a #nas4free channel but you can try
[09:24] <reisio> thechris: #linux
[09:25] <besp> varunendra: yeah I'm sure. time wc file >wc.out still prints the time output. The man page says time outputs to stderr by default, although I suppose the man page could be outdated/wrong.
[09:27] <varunendra> besp, is > same as 2> ??
[09:30] <besp> varunendra: no I did the command with > to show that time does not print to stdout. wc prints to stdout and time prints to stderr (or so it seems) though 2> doesn't redirect the output of time.
[09:31] <varunendra> besp, 2> should print the stderr to the file. If you want both the stdout and stderr redirected, you may use "cmd >>file.txt 2>&1" format (source : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/876239/bash-redirect-and-append-both-stdout-and-stderr)
[09:34] <besp> varunendra: I figured it out, bash fucks with the time command: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/032
[09:34] <scratch> 22
[09:34] <tracekill> Good god I have had such issues with this, I'm hoping one of you can help me. I've just been trying to get my Intel Wireless-ac dual band 7260 to work correctly and it seems to be impossible.
[09:34] <tracekill> I've compiled 3.11 with the wifi-testing branch and I've placed the iwlwifi-7260-7.ucode file in /lib/firmware and I've no idea what else there is to do that I've not done.
[09:34] <scratch> oh
[09:35] <PaintBucket> So, something weird happened.
[09:35] <sharif>  ubuntuforum.org not  open but why?
[09:35] <cfhowlett> sharif, hack attack.
[09:36] <PaintBucket> I -think- my audio problem might be resolved now but.. I removed pulseaudio and alsa-base via apt-get. So, I went to reinstall this.. and it says I already have alsa-base installed.
[09:36] <scratch> helloo
[09:36] <cfhowlett> scratch, greetings
[09:36] <PaintBucket> okay.. that's fine.. but I noticed it was removing gnome core and all sorts of stuff.
[09:36] <varunendra> tracekill, have you followed some guide or tutorial to do so? Link please.
[09:36] <scratch> cfhowlett,
[09:36] <scratch> can you talk
[09:36] <cfhowlett> scratch, ?  what's the issue?
[09:36] <PaintBucket> brb
[09:37] <sharif> cfhowlett solve time plzz
[09:37] <tracekill> https://openlinuxforums.org/index.php?topic=3274.0
[09:37] <scratch> seperately
[09:37] <besp> exit
[09:37] <tracekill> With the addition of these configuration changes: http://www.linux.org/threads/intel-7260-firmware-not-loaded.4280/
[09:38] <tracekill> As this gentleman seems to have had my exact problem.
[09:38] <cfhowlett> !details|scratch,
[09:38] <varunendra> tracekill, you may download this script and run it to get a detailed report : http://dl.dropbox.com/u/57264241/wireless_script
[09:38] <tracekill> Just finished the 2 hour task of compiling the kernel for the second time and it doesn't seem to have taken.
[09:38] <cfhowlett> sharif, it'll be back when the hack attack is fixed.
[09:40] <beni-_> hi, I'm deleting a whole bunch of files. Why does `df` not show the free space as free? the numbers Used and Free don't sum up to total 1K-blocks. http://pastebin.com/WahNv2Fj
[09:41] <tracekill> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5896755
[09:41] <cfhowlett> beni-_, because they're in the trash not deleted
[09:41] <varunendra> sharif, the status of the forums is regularly updated on the notification page.
[09:41] <beni-_> cfhowlett: sorry, didn't explain properly -- I delete them from the command line with 'rm -rf', so they shouldn't go to Trash, or do they?
[09:42] <tracekill> varunendra*
[09:42] <varunendra> tracekill, taking a look at it .. :)
[09:42] <cfhowlett> beni-_, I'm going to pass on this question as I don't know.  Someone here does, I'm sure.
[09:42] <tracekill> Thank you, sir!
[09:42] <tracekill> Never compiled the actual kernel before tonight, never really want to again :p.
[09:43] <irssi-mike> taek: 12.04.2, sorry i was AFK
[09:43] <checoimg> HA
[09:43] <irssi-mike> reisio: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org
[09:43] <reisio> irssi-mike: dpkg -L openoffice.org | grep bin
[09:45] <varunendra> tracekill, that seems too much over my head, but have you cross-checked if those firmware files in the dmesg part exist in their locations? And that your new iwlwifi actually requests them?
[09:45] <irssi-mike> reisio: that did nothing, i think
[09:46] <reisio> thinking :p
[09:46] <irssi-mike> ikr
[09:46] <tracekill> varunendra, iwlwifi definitely doesn't seem to be requesting them thoug the firmware file is right where the other ones are.
[09:46] <tracekill> /lib/firmware
[09:47] <LeMike> hello. i do not see the problem in this line. it says "missing arg to execdir". can someone help? ``` find . -name "phpdoc.dist.xml" -execdir phpdoc ; ```
[09:48] <varunendra> tracekill, I didn't go through the page you gave links of, but just to make sure - is it the iwlwifi  that should still handle the card? If so, the output of 'modinfo iwlwifi' please.
[09:50] <tracekill> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5896763/
[09:54] <varunendra> tracekill, first of all, it doesn't seem to recognize your card, there is no alias entry for your card's PID : VID . So messing with firmware is pointless until it recognizes that, and includes the firmware in its 'firmware' list.
[09:54] <tracekill> Yeah that's the part i cannot get it to do.
[09:55] <tracekill> How do I accomplish that?
[09:55] <varunendra> tracekill, did you try compat wireless drivers?
[09:55] <tracekill> Not to my knowledge.
[09:57] <varunendra> tracekill, unfortunately, my primary source of info is down (ubuntuforums), but you should find links on how to compile them. I'd try the latest version that builds successfully on the system.
[10:00] <varunendra> tracekill, according to http://wikidevi.com/wiki/Intel_Dual_Band_Wireless-AC_7260_(7260HMW) the driver in kernel 3.11 seems to have support for this card. You may try the same compat wireless version and see if it builds successfully.
[10:00] <ANub> Hey!!! When ubuntuforums are expected to come up??
[10:01] <bekks> When they are finished :P
[10:01] <varunendra> ANub, we know only as much as displayed on the notification page.
[10:01] <mJayk> ANub: keep checking the splash screen
[10:01] <tracekill> varunendra okay aweomse, Ill check it out!
[10:01] <varunendra> good luck !
[10:01] <ANub> Eager to paste solution of my own query....:)
[10:01] <tracekill> varunendra, what do you mean by the compat wireless drivers? Is this a package available?
[10:02] <varunendra> tracekill, there should be. Think of them as backported drivers. Only they need to be compiled manually.
[10:06] <varunendra> ANub, what was that by the way ? :)
 if you have ever observed intermittent lagging in WiFi even if you are sitting right besides the AP......its the solution for that
[10:09] <varunendra> ANub, too close a distance can also be a problem, there is a 'sweet spot' between the hotspot and the receiving device. Plus it is sometimes driver related. But glad you figured it out whatever it was :)
[10:10] <Prochamber> Hey, I've been having a problem with multiple monitors in Xorg. I can use one graphics card or the other but not both.
[10:12] <aj_> what are desktop replacements for gnome??
[10:12] <aj_> and what is best?
[10:12] <reisio> aj_: Xfce, Xfce
[10:14] <aj_> what is its advantage over gnome?
[10:14] <Prochamber> aj: KDE is nice but hard to learn for a Gnome user, Xfce is nice
[10:14] <Prochamber> Lightweight
[10:14] <Prochamber> Fast to load and very responsive
[10:14] <aj_> the default with ubuntu is unity, right?
[10:15] <Prochamber> Yes
[10:15] <xormor> aj_: I use xubuntu that I got from a Linux Format DVD.
[10:15] <Prochamber> Canonical decide to replace Gnome with their own creation
[10:15] <xormor> aj_: xubuntu comes with xfce, a light desktop environment.
[10:15] <iceroot> Prochamber: unity is still gnome3 just with another shell
[10:16] <tracekill> varunendra, there doesn't appear to be a package for 3.11.
[10:16] <tracekill> Not as far as I can find.
[10:16] <Prochamber> Iceroot: Ah, now it makes sense
[10:16] <varunendra> tracekill, yeah, I couldn't locate it as well :(
[10:17] <tracekill> If this says that the driver for 7260 is included in 3.11 shouldn't I have it?
[10:17] <tracekill> Since I compiled the 3.11 kernel?
[10:17] <Prochamber> Anyway, I've been having a problem running multiple graphics cards with Xorg
[10:19] <varunendra> tracekill, your kernel version looks weird. Where did you get the source from?
[10:20] <tracekill> http://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/linville/wireless-testing.git
[10:21] <varunendra> tracekill, apparently, 3.11 is available in the ppa mainline, but I won't recommend such a long jump : http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[10:23] <xormor> Linux laptoppi-HP-G62-Notebook-PC 3.8.0-26-generic #38-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 17 21:46:08 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
[10:25] <Tuna-Fish> hi, how do you change the password policy in 13.04? The documentation says to change /etc/pam.d/common-password, I have done the modifications but they don't seem to have any effect?
[10:25] <darkelfjuggalo> I have a Mic built into my laptop, I wam trying to use it and it is not installed... can someone suggest the package to use?
[10:26] <tracekill> varunendra, I'm already on 3.11 no?
[10:26] <tracekill> With the addition of the wireless-testing branch.
[10:26] <PaintBucket> If I remove Pulseaudio is there something else I can use to manage volume keys and such instead of having to open terminal and edit alsamixer?
[10:26] <bekks> PaintBucket: No.
[10:27] <Ben64> PaintBucket: yes
[10:27] <Tuna-Fish> alsamixergui?
[10:27] <Ben64> !info gnome-alsamixer
[10:28] <bekks> Ben64: Which programm would magically make his multimedia volume keys work?
[10:28] <bekks> Ben64: Its not the mixer. :P
[10:28] <Ben64> uh, you just make it a keyboard shortcut
[10:28] <linuxthefish> why hacked
[10:28] <varunendra> tracekill, yes you are, but the iwlwifi is nothing what wikidevi.com suggests it is.. :(
[10:28] <farbod> hi
[10:28] <linuxthefish> Unfortunately the attackers have gotten every user's local username, password, and email address from the Ubuntu Forums database.
[10:28] <farbod> can you help me?
[10:28] <tracekill> varunendra, I've been lied to.
[10:29] <farbod> can you help me?
[10:29] <farbod> can you help me?
[10:29] <linuxthefish> yes
[10:29] <Ben64> farbod: not if you never ask a question
[10:29] <bekks> !ask | farbod
[10:29] <PaintBucket> ah, okay. I'll look into gnome-alsamixer
[10:29] <PaintBucket> I think pulse might be screwing up afterall.
[10:30] <tracekill> Hey verunendra, can this help me at all? http://packages.debian.org/sid/firmware-iwlwifi
[10:30] <Ben64> PaintBucket: it usually does
[10:30] <PaintBucket> one final question on pulse. what is the benefit to using it?
[10:30] <farbod> i want to disable my guest session ?
[10:30] <bekks> PaintBucket: Why? Pulse doesnt affect your multimedia keys at all. It doesnt even know such keys exist.
[10:30] <farbod> can you?
[10:30] <varunendra> tracekill, I have no experience with pure debian packages nor manually compiled kernels. Can't comment on that. :(
[10:30] <bekks> PaintBucket: So if your multimedia keys arent recognized, thats not a PulseAudio issue.
[10:31] <PaintBucket> No, it's not the keys that's an issue. It's random stuttering with audio that is.
[10:31] <varunendra> tracekill, is it just the firmware or the module too ?
[10:31] <PaintBucket> The keys are just something I'd like to keep
[10:31] <PaintBucket> like fn+4 turns up volume
[10:31] <farbod> i want to disable my guest session  can you learn this to me?
[10:33] <varunendra> tracekill, it is just a firmware pack, not going to help unless the driver asks for it.
[10:34] <Ben64> PaintBucket: stuttering could be caused by pulseaudio
[10:34] <PaintBucket> Okay, so.. I'm trying to "apt-get remove pulseaudio" and it's trying to remove gnome and gnome-core with it
[10:34] <PaintBucket> is it supposed to do that?
[10:35] <bekks> PaintBucket: I'd not remove it.
[10:35] <mm12> hey wsup all
[10:35] <PaintBucket> Yeah.. what the hell. :(
[10:35] <mm12> ubuntus the best
[10:36] <varunendra> tracekill, there seems to be an easy way to find out whether the ppa kernel is going to help or not.
[10:36] <PaintBucket> weird that 3,785 diskspace will be freed if it's gonna remove gnome and gnome-core alongside it. I think ..
[10:37] <tracekill> How?
[10:37] <PaintBucket> brb.. again
[10:37] <tracekill> varunendra, ah also yes I see your point with your earlier comments.
[10:38] <zenger> Hi guys, I have a problem, I'm trying to use nvidia-settings to configure my nvidia driver, but it fails with an error like this " You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server"
[10:38] <xkernel> when I open link in a web site in a new tab using google chrome, sometimes it doesn't render the content but shows blank page
[10:38] <zenger> but when I do run the nvidia-xconfig as root, it shows that the file is written and is working
[10:38] <varunendra> tracekill, the .deb package is just an archive, with the driver file in ready to use form in it. You can extract it, and run 'modinfo' on it to see if it has an alias to your device (PID : VID) which is 8086 and 08b1 for you.
[10:41] <DJ_MuTeD> Hello
[10:42] <DJ_MuTeD> Does anyone know how to remove "Amd testing use only" watermark from beta drivers on Ubuntu 13.04?
[10:42] <tracekill> varunendra, so extract the .deb then... I hvae no idea how to run modinfo in this case.
[10:42] <dD> How can I stop the shift key from being ignored in keybindings in dconf editor?
[10:43] <lilstevie> DJ_MuTeD: not using beta drivers tends to help
[10:44] <Glanzmann> Hello; I want to use a perl plugin for freeradius on ubuntu which uses Authen::Krb5::Simple that does not work because freeradius was not rebuild after perl was updated (I saw that problem before on SuSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP2). So I tried to build freeradius from source and it fails, too. http://pbot.rmdir.de/-0ckqBMnchzSEceL9u9gWw There is a bug report but it was closed because it was not reproducable, anyone?
[10:44] <DJ_MuTeD> "Stable" drivers cause my computer not boot at all
[10:44] <DJ_MuTeD> but beta ones work
[10:45] <Glanzmann> If I compile freeradius without the infrastructure, it works like a charm, but I want to provide a working debian package to a customer.
[10:45] <bekks> Glanzmann: You should reopen the bug then.
[10:45] <tracekill> I'm hardly the expert on anything but shouldn't you just reopen the ticket for that specific software?
[10:45] <zenger> Could someone tell me how to uninstall the NVIDIA driver, which I have installed through a *.run package from the nvidias main site ? :)
[10:45] <tracekill> Oh nevermind, somebody said it.
[10:45] <bekks> zenger: run the binary with the --uninstall option.
[10:46] <zenger> bekks: thanks
[10:46] <tracekill> Hahaha, varunendra, you are my hero right now.
[10:46] <tracekill> All I needed was 3.11 generic
[10:46] <tracekill> Talk about overcomplicating things...
[10:46] <tracekill> Now to figure out how to remove any trace of these aborted kernels :P
[10:46] <NikTh> DJ_MuTeD:  Here is an answer → http://askubuntu.com/questions/206558/how-to-remove-the-amd-testing-use-only-watermark
[10:46] <Glanzmann> bekks: I should actually open two bug reports: One because the perl binding is not working and another one because it is not compiling.
[10:46] <dD> I want to use alt+shift to change keyboard language and alt + shift tab to do switch windows backwards, but it seems I can't have both configured at the same time.  I could do this in previous versions of Gnome, is there any way t fix this?
[10:46] <bekks> Glanzmann: Yeah
[10:47] <DJ_MuTeD> This is not watermark i have NikTh
[10:47] <Glanzmann> The problem is that I need a solution till Thursday 09:00.
[10:47] <DJ_MuTeD> My watermark doesnt say "Unsupported device"
[10:47] <Glanzmann> Or I end up packaging freeradius myself.
[10:47] <Glanzmann> bekks: I'll do that.
[10:47] <bekks> dD: I dont think thats possible, since after oressing the first two keys of the second shortcut, the first shortcut applies. I dont think that was possible ever.
[10:48] <dD> Hi bekks, I'm sure that's how it was configured, but what happened was that the first shortcut would only apply after I let go of alt (so, I would press alt + shift and nothing would happen, but then I would stop pressing alt and the keyboard would change).
[10:49] <reisio> mmm, well, you could always have alt+shift+tab undo what alt+shift alone would do
[10:49] <reisio> with der scriptenheimerz
[10:49] <tracekill> Holy crap it even works well with hte touch screen!
[10:50] <Glanzmann> bekks: What do I need to do to reopen the bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freeradius/+bug/1090365
[10:50] <dD> bekks, kind of like a onkeyup event
[10:52] <varunendra> tracekill, sorry I got disconnected. Did you get my last message about opening the .deb on archive manager and running modprobe on the driver?
[10:52] <tracekill> Oh damn, you missed my thank you message.
[10:52] <tracekill> I actually just bit the bullet and flat out installed 3.11 generic ona  whim.
[10:52] <varunendra> np then :)
[10:52] <tracekill> Turns out that was all I needed.
[10:52] <tracekill> Way overcomplicated things.
[10:52] <varunendra> Really !! Is it working now ??
[10:53] <PaintBucket> Okay.. so, I went ahead and installed remove pulse
[10:53] <PaintBucket> i'm confused.
[10:53] <PaintBucket> I can't remove gnome now.
[10:53] <varunendra> tracekill, does the driver work for you now ?
[10:55] <tracekill> Yeah
[10:55] <tracekill> Wireless works perfectly.
[10:55] <varunendra> Yay !! :D
[10:55] <tracekill> Yeah it's awesome I cannot thnak you enough.
[10:56] <PaintBucket> I'm thinking I'd better do a fresh install and try this again. I can't remove gnome because it's allegedly not installed. However, i can log into my gnome profile and everything works. Now, when I try to install gnome, it tells me 7 new packages will be installed. Gnome, Gnome-core, libcanberra-pulse, pulseaudio, and a few other things. For a total of 6,273 kb
[10:56] <varunendra> tracekill, pleasure is mine. I discovered a new working formula for a new device :D
[10:56] <PaintBucket> Am i missing something or is that weird?
[10:56] <mJayk> PaintBucket: that will be dependencies that are needed for other programs that have possibly been installed in the interim,
[10:57] <varunendra> tracekill, repeating my last message if you missed and are interested for future use-
[10:57] <varunendra> the trick I use to find out if there is any driver available for a particular device ID is running "grep -iR <device ID> /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net". You may try that as well in cases when you are not sure about 'Which driver'.
[10:58] <PaintBucket> Hmm, but I was removing pulse audio and it wants to tear out gnome and gnome-core.. leaving a ton of abandoned packages
[10:58] <PaintBucket> :(
[10:58] <PaintBucket> I just wanted pulse gone.. ugh
[10:59] <mJayk> how are you removing pulse?
[10:59] <mJayk> apt-get remove pulse-audio?
[10:59] <tracekill> varunendra ah! I'd seen that somewhere during my search but couldn't find it again!
[10:59] <PaintBucket> apt-get remove pulseaudio
[10:59] <tracekill> Awesome.
[11:00] <mJayk> PaintBucket: do aptitude search ^pulse-audio
[11:00] <varunendra> tracekill, could it be one of my posts ;P (cuz I didn't find it, figured out myself)
[11:01] <bekks> PaintBucket: I'd not uninstall pulse until ensuring it is pulseaudio causing your problems.
[11:02] <PaintBucket> I'm not sure what else it could be.
[11:02] <mJayk> PaintBucket: do aptitude search ^pulse-audio
[11:03] <PaintBucket> ok
[11:03] <mJayk>  /win 4
[11:03] <PaintBucket> what am I looking for?
[11:05] <bekks> PaintBucket: Did you double check the pavucontrol settings?
[11:05] <bekks> PaintBucket: Which Ubuntu do you use?
[11:05] <joshu_> hi I've installed ubuntu mini 13.04 and then 'apt-get xserver-xorg lightdm'. I'm trying to learn how to configure lightdm, but when I do lightdm-set-defaults I get command not found
[11:06] <PaintBucket> using 13.04
[11:06] <bekks> joshu_: That command does not exist.
[11:06] <mJayk> PaintBucket: the output
[11:06] <joshu_> bekks hmm why is it mentioned in the docs https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Configuration_and_Tweaks
[11:07] <joshu_> bekks what am I supposed to do to configure lightdm?
[11:08] <PaintBucket> http://pastebin.com/7aT76NJE
[11:08] <PaintBucket> theres the output
[11:09] <bekks> joshu_: That file never existed in any package. And I am sorry, I never needed to configure lightdm, because it always worked fo me.
[11:10] <PaintBucket> So, let's say I remove pulse. I should still have sound and be able to adjust it via alsamixer right?
[11:10] <joshu_> bekks ok I found it in /usr/lib/lightdm. It's not about lightdm not working. I need to customise it so that when a user logs in a VPN connection and then RDP session are established
[11:10] <PaintBucket> just talking hypothetically here.
[11:11] <bekks> joshu_: I'd do that with a custom autostart config in your session, rather than using lightdm.
[11:12] <joshu_> bekks so not using this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Autorun_a_Command ?
[11:13] <bekks> joshu_: I'd use the autostart feature of the session, rather than the config of the *dm
[11:13] <joshu_> bekks do you have any links to tutorials, examples as I don't know how to do this?
[11:14] <bekks> !autostart | joshu_
[11:16] <joshu_> bekks I can't follow that as I don't have a full GUI as I explained I have only installed  'apt-get xserver-xorg lightdm'
[11:16] <PaintBucket> You mean like you're missing unity?
[11:17] <farbod> please presentation a proxy for me!!!:D
[11:17] <chrisamoab> hello
[11:17] <farbod> hi
[11:17] <bekks> farbod: Please form a full question, and dont abuse interpunctuation.
[11:17] <cfhowlett> chrisamoab, greetings
[11:18] <chrisamoab> greetings
[11:18] <chrisamoab> I have a question
[11:18] <farbod> how i can install this proxys?
[11:18] <bekks> !ask | chrisamoab
[11:18] <bekks> farbod: which proxies?
[11:18] <joshu_> PaintBucket all I have is the lightdm greeter and the top bar and that's it in terms of GUI. This is what I want so that's not the issue. I'm looking for help with configuring lightdm as I understand that that's what I need to do to have a session created when a user logins in
[11:18] <farbod> bekks greetings
[11:19] <farbod> i want a proxyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[11:19] <cfhowlett> farbod, and the more you do THAT the less you'll see one.
[11:20] <PaintBucket> Ah, okay. Sorry, I missed your first posts and thought you meant you installed base by accident or something. Wish I could help but, I'm thinking about dropping ubuntu entirely.
[11:20] <bekks> farbod: Stop abusing your keyboard and answer my question please.
[11:20] <chrisamoab> ok, well, I was browsing the web, and I found a link to a Samoan translation (partial) of Ubuntu. However when I looked at it, it doesn't actually have a single Samoan word in it, Something seems wrong with that scenario, and I'd like to know who is behind it, and how it can be fixed
[11:20] <farbod> bekks: what is your question?
[11:21] <bekks> chrisamoab: So which link did you find?
[11:21] <bekks> farbod: "Which proxies?"
[11:21] <joshu_> PaintBucket no worries ;)
[11:21] <chrisamoab> this link https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/firefox/+pots/firefox/sm/+translate?field.alternative_language=&field.alternative_language-empty-marker=1&show=translated&memo=10&start=10
[11:21] <farbod> bekks: i dont have proxy and i asked you to help me
[11:22] <bekks> farbod: And I asked to clarify which proxies you are talking about.
[11:22] <farbod> bekks:like tor
[11:22] <bekks> !tor | farbod
[11:23] <farbod> i want a proxy like tor
[11:24] <tata> is it possible to run ubuntu like root user always? and don't ask me for password anymore?
[11:25] <cfhowlett> !root|tata,
[11:25] <cfhowlett> tata, if you need root ALL the time, you're doing it wrong
[11:25] <PaintBucket> Can I still install gnome2 or is that dead and gone?
[11:26] <Smilo> Doi need to change my password because of the ubuntu forums hack?
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> PaintBucket  classic / fallsback looks alot like gnome2
[11:26] <cfhowlett> Smilo, yes
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> fallback*
[11:26] <PaintBucket> yeah, but I can't change it apparently.
[11:26] <Smilo> Where can i change it
[11:26] <Smilo> the site is down?
[11:26] <cfhowlett> Smilo, wait until the site is up?
[11:26] <chrisamoab> the forums got hacked?
[11:26] <bekks> Smilo: Nowhere, until the site is up again.
[11:26] <tata> if that so I delete ubuntu for ever
[11:26] <Smilo> yeah
[11:27] <tata> thanks
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> chrisamoab  yes, the website people have work to do
[11:27] <Smilo> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/07/ubuntu-forum-hacked-users-advised-to-change-passwords?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG%21+Ubuntu%21%29
[11:27] <cfhowlett> tata, so be it.
[11:27] <bekks> tata: Good luck.
[11:27] <PaintBucket> I've a networking related question. I plug in my ethernet cable and nothing happens. Shouldn't it just start working as soon as I plug in it?
[11:27] <PaintBucket> lol
[11:27] <tata> thanks again
[11:28] <k1l_> tata: in ubuntu you are supposed to use sudo. what is your case for using root all the time?
[11:28] <Smilo> go to the network icon at the top and tell us what it looks like
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> tata  ruining your pc is not supported here
[11:28] <chrisamoab> crikey, security is a bit lax
[11:29] <chrisamoab> goes hand in hand with having dodgy translations I guess
[11:29] <aneks> can anyone recommend a good flv to avi converter?
[11:29] <cfhowlett> aneks, ffmpeg would do it
[11:29] <Guest58780> hey guys
[11:29] <Guest58780>  my ardour hangs on exports and gives errors ive tried all sorts of exports
[11:29] <tata> because I work fast this is my job, and password allways is wasted time
[11:29] <cfhowlett> aneks, as would aconv
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> aneks  winff is a nice gui
[11:29] <aneks> thanks guys
[11:29] <cfhowlett> tata, then you should know exactly how to set a long duration sudo ... right?
[11:30] <PaintBucket> I'm confused how it's even that secure
[11:30] <PaintBucket> I changed my root password.. I'd venture to guess if I can then anyone who guesses my password can.
[11:30] <tata> no its not point in them
[11:31] <chrisamoab> can someone explain to me how Ubuntu could have a Samoan translation which doesn't contain a single Samoan word? Does no one check these things?
[11:31] <tata> for many file ubuntu told you dont permission...
[11:31] <Guest58780> any solution for me? where should i ask about Ardour?
[11:31] <cfhowlett> chrisamoab, translators are volunteers.  some projects are on the calendar, some are more complete than others.  if you have such skills, consider volunteering yourself
[11:31] <cfhowlett> Guest58780, ardour has a channel and there's also #ubuntustudio
[11:32] <Guest58780> cfhowlett tnx
[11:32] <PaintBucket> tata look at the pm. it tells you how to change root if you absolutely must.
[11:32] <PaintBucket> or don't..
[11:33] <chrisamoab> cfhowlett, I do have the skills, and I have ALREADY translated it, but not as part of Ubuntu, I want to know why Ubuntu has it, why it's faulty, and who can I contact to get it removed
[11:34] <joshu_> is there a plugin for network manager to add l2tp/ipsec support?
[11:34] <cfhowlett> chrisamoab, as I said, community volunteers.  see the wiki/samoa community site for a point of contact.  and translations aren't ubuntu moderated.  pretty sure that's at the community level similar to this irc
[11:35] <chrisamoab> ahhh...so I need to find a wiki?
[11:36] <cfhowlett> chrisamoab, see the page as it should direct to contacts/publications.  if no wiki then just find the people listed.
[11:37] <OerHeks>  chrisamoab this is a start > https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+lang/sm
[11:37] <OerHeks> they need help, sure.
[11:37] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, good suggestion, thanks
[11:38] <chrisamoab> Thanks mate, I'm checking it out
[11:39] <as_exp> buongiorno a tutti
[11:39] <as_exp> non mi funziona più il software center
[11:39] <as_exp> lo lancio ma non parte
[11:40] <cfhowlett> !it|as_exp,
[11:41] <as_exp> I'm sorry
[11:41] <as_exp> cfhowlett, thanks
[11:42] <chrisamoab> OK, makes no sense to me, they have a translation posted, but nothing listed in that last link
[11:43] <chrisamoab> have a good weekend
[11:46] <PaintBucket> Hey.. guess what. I think I stopped the audio stutter.
[11:47] <PaintBucket> Although, I removed and reinstalled Pulseaudio quite a few times.
[11:47] <bekks> PaintBucket: So what did you actually do?
[11:48] <PaintBucket> I removed and reinstalled pulse audio/gnome like 40 times
[11:48] <PaintBucket> lol how does that work?
[11:48] <PaintBucket> I feel like Ubuntu = Madness
[11:49] <PaintBucket> Yeah, I played a whole 4 minute song with no stuttering.
[11:49] <bekks> PaintBucket: This isnt windows. So what have actually done, besides pointlessly removig and installing the same program agan and again?
[11:49] <PaintBucket> nothing except mess things up
[11:50] <bekks> PaintBucket: Now you know why its not that good to act like being on Windows. :)
[11:50] <PaintBucket> I removed and reinstalled evolution a bunch too.
[11:51] <PaintBucket> lol well, sadly I think windows has one up on this. I removed pulse and it removed parts of gnome and that caused about 50 packages I do infact use to say they aren't used.
[11:51] <PaintBucket> It used to be spectacular. Ubuntu was the reason I left windows about 8 years ago. This is not so cool.
[11:52] <meet> I have ubuntu gnome installed with a separate /home partition. I want to install ubuntu 12.04 with unity over this one. how do I clean up the gnome 3 configuration files and all? I mean how to remove some config files in /home which may conflict with unity.
[11:53] <bekks> PaintBucket: Thats called "dependencies". And Thats something Windows doesnt even know about, so its uncomparable. However. You're box seems to be still running.
[11:53] <bekks> meet: That can be done manually, only.
[11:53] <meet> bekks: what all files should be deleted then?
[11:53] <PaintBucket> I don't know why gnome-core and gnome games would be dependent on pulse though. that just really sucks.
[11:54] <bekks> meet: You have to find that out, there is no generel rule of thumb.
[11:56] <PaintBucket> I could understand if it was just some stuff pulseaudio used to run. However I have a hunch that Nibbles isn't part of pulse..
[11:56] <PaintBucket> just a hunch
[11:57] <PaintBucket> Not that I'm saying windows is better bekks. I detest that overpriced piece of crap microsoft pushes out. win7 looked like it was at least making progress then win8 came out and I almost puked. My gf runs that.
[11:57] <PaintBucket> I don't use her laptop ever. I'll use my cellphone first.
[11:58] <bekks> PaintBucket: So can we come back to Ubuntu support please? :)
[11:59] <PaintBucket> :) Yeah. Can you tell me how to fix this thing with the "dependencies"?
[11:59] <PaintBucket> I don't want to lose them all next time I run apt-get autoclean
[11:59] <WorstCaseOntario> hey can someone tell me what I to to get a command prompt back in a terminal. sometimes I run a program from it and dont need to see the stuff its doing, I just want to get a terminal prompt again without opening a new terminal window
[11:59] <Estrobeda> i have one question. I have an asus laptop (Asus k53sm) and it has windows 7 preinstalled. Is it possible to safely install ubuntu beside windows without Wubi or should i just forget about installing ubuntu beside windows without wubi? I dont want to ruin my preinstalled windows because i have some stuff inside my windows i cant use on linux. Or it might be the wrong place to ask this question?
[11:59] <bekks> !dualboot | Estrobeda
[12:00] <PaintBucket> I think the live cd offers to install alongside windows.
[12:00] <bekks> Thats what is callled "dualboot".
[12:00] <PaintBucket> yeah
[12:00] <Estrobeda> ok thx =D i will check this out.
[12:01] <moes> What command do I use to delete 10.04 partition so I can clean install 12.04 lts
[12:02] <napsc> WorstCaseOntario: you mean send the job into the background?
[12:02] <WorstCaseOntario> napsc I think so
[12:03] <napsc> WorstCaseOntario:  put a "&" at the end of the command
[12:03] <bekks> or press ctrl+z and type bg and enter.
[12:04] <WorstCaseOntario> thanks!
[12:11] <joelmo1> quit
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> WorstCaseOntario  fg brings the process back to the foreground
[12:14] <pr0gu1ka> hello duds
[12:17] <joshu_> the top bar in at the lightdm greeter. How can I customise that? I believe I had unity-greeter
[12:17] <MrSassyPants> What ist the "official" way to change permissions in /dev permanently?
[12:18] <moes> What command do I use to uninstall 10.04 partition so I can clean install 12.04 lts to the same partition
[12:19] <compdoc> MrSassyPants, Ive never seen a need to change permissions in /dev
[12:19] <MrSassyPants> namely I want "chgrp -R plugdev /dev/bus/usb; chmod -R g+rw plugdev /dev/bus/usb" on a permanent basis, and a local start script seems hacky
[12:19] <WorstCaseOntario> thanks all
[12:19] <MrSassyPants> compdoc, kde needs those permissions to be able to change the resolution of logitech mice
[12:20] <MrSassyPants> there's other ways to do it, but this seems the cleanest
[12:20] <checoimg> moes : I believe you only have install on top of it choosing "something else" or "reinstall ubuntu"
[12:21] <checoimg> moes : To uninstall you can use "os-uninstaller"
[12:23] <MrSassyPants> compdoc, and yes, I'd categorize this as a kubuntu bug
[12:28] <earman> hello?
[12:28] <scarleo> MrSassyPants, chmod g+s /dev/bus/usb maybe?
[12:29] <MrSassyPants> scarleo, the problem is permanency
[12:29] <MrSassyPants> scarleo, I want to know if there's a less hacky way than just putting chmods in a local start script
[12:30] <scarleo> well +s should be permanent and apply correct group to everything created in that path
[12:32] <paulus68> what is the best program under ubuntu to create a full diskimage like norton ghost can do?
[12:33] <compdoc> paulus68, clonezilla is excellent, but it doesnt run under ubuntu
[12:34] <paulus68> compdoc: and what about acronis? is that a good alternative
[12:34] <Joschii> rehi
[12:37] <compdoc> acronis works, but also doesnt run under ubuntu
[12:38] <OerHeks> !backup
[12:45] <Brynjolf> Dudes, is there an IRC channel for the Ubuntu SDK?
[12:47] <k1l_> !touch | Brynjolf
[12:48] <Brynjolf> thanks
[12:50] <randomaussie> hi guys.. i recently wiped my 12.04 and thoguht to update to 13.04 and have had nothing but problems since.. and i get crashes even trying to remake my usb drive a bootable 12.04 iso again... i've tried a couple of guide off google but i just cant get it working.. can i plesae get help reflashing my usb back to a bootable 12.04 iso so i can start again?  i have hte iso sitting in my home/dowmlaod folder ready to go
[12:50] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:51] <bgardner> randomaussie, what message do you get when you try to write the image?
[12:52] <randomaussie> as far as i cen tell it writes... but when i try to boot off it i get a not bootable error nd pressing any key boots from my hdd
[12:53] <auronandace> randomaussie: how are you trying to write the image?
[12:54] <randomaussie> most recent guide i've tried is this...... ---> http://linuxbookpro.tumblr.com/post/19292802005/creating-a-bootable-usb-iso-from-linux-terminal-for
[12:54] <MrBarry> Hello, world. Does anyone have any experience getting an IOGear print server working with 12.04?
[12:55] <auronandace> randomaussie: using dd should be fine
[12:55] <randomaussie> yeah i seems to copy over.. but it doesnt boot....
[12:55] <randomaussie> it*
[12:56] <randomaussie> how do i find out wich /dev/sd* my usb stick is plugged into...
[12:57] <auronandace> randomaussie: if you didn't already know that then you really shouldn't be using dd
[12:57] <randomaussie> well i was just following the guide...
[12:59] <auronandace> randomaussie: before using dd you should know in advance which device you are applying it to otherwise you'll be overwriting something you may not intend to
[13:00] <th0r> randomaussie: to answer your question...when I need to know the /dev I opent a terminal, 'tail -f /var/log/syslog', and then plug in the device
[13:00] <Naphatul> how do i load the kvm module if it ships with the kernel at all?
[13:00] <randomaussie> ah thanks
[13:00] <stefano_26> WTF happened to ubuntuforums lol
[13:01] <OerHeks> stefano_26, you didn't read the message?
[13:02] <stefano_26> OerHeks, Yeah... I read it... what a shame! The platform was based on vbulletin.. proprietary software
[13:02] <stefano_26> OerHeks, And someone hacked it too! LOL
[13:02] <irssi-mike> Did somebody hack into the ubuntu forum
[13:02] <MrSassyPants> i got /etc/dhcp and /etc/dhcp3  - this is confusing me and I'd like to know if I can remove either of those
[13:03] <woe_is_me> I've had to change all my passwords because of the breech, mainly because I can't remember what password I actually used on the forums!
[13:03] <randomaussie> auronanface and th0r: thankyou.. its booting now
[13:03] <stefano_26> woe_is_me, haahahahahahaha shame on you Canonical!
[13:04] <stefano_26> I can't believe
[13:04] <OerHeks> stefano_26, take this to #ubuntu-offtopic, keep this channel clear for support, thanks
[13:04] <xqee> Hello guys, can some1 help me to install Asus u3100 mini plus on ubuntu 12.04 server, thanks ?
[13:04] <MrBarry> I had just asked a ? on the forums, and had to reset my password to do so. So I know it's something random and not in use elsewhere.
[13:04] <stefano_26> OerHeks, hahaha okay...
[13:05] <RAIN> hi
[13:06] <xqee> Ubuntu Forums is down for maintenance ?
[13:06] <woe_is_me> xqee: It's been hacked.
[13:07] <Guest54506> no
[13:07] <Guest54506> no
[13:07] <Guest54506> no
[13:07] <xqee> omg, very band
[13:07] <FloodBot1> Guest54506: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:07] <xqee> bad*
[13:11] <xqee> anyone knows when site will be back ?
[13:13] <varunendra> xqee, we only know as much as mentioned on the notification page. If you have some problems regarding ubuntu you may ask here.
[13:13] <OerHeks> askubuntu is still up
[13:14] <xqee> I need to install this: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0b05:1779 ASUSTek Computer, Inc. My Cinema U3100 Mini Plus [AF9035A]
[13:14] <varunendra> OerHeks, "still"... are you expecting something ? ;)
[13:14] <Laurenceb__> hi
[13:14]  * OerHeks hardly visits ubuntuforums, askubuntu is more powerfull
[13:14] <Laurenceb__> i have a problem, somethiung is using 50% of my cpu
[13:14] <Laurenceb__> ie one full core
[13:14] <xqee> can someone help me with installing ?
[13:14] <Laurenceb__> i can't see it in top
[13:14] <varunendra> xqee, what kind of device is that?
[13:14] <ikonia> Laurenceb__: what do you see in top ?
[13:14] <Laurenceb__> but its there is the system monitor
[13:14] <ikonia> Laurenceb__: can you take a screenshot ?
[13:15] <xqee> varunendra its dvb-t usb card
[13:15] <Laurenceb__> wait found it
[13:15] <Laurenceb__> it was the wifi driver
[13:15] <ikonia> xqee: do you know if it has linux support ?
[13:15] <Laurenceb__> disable/reenable wifi and its fixed
[13:15] <xqee> ikonia it has http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Asus_U3100_Mini_plus_DVB-T
[13:16] <ikonia> xqee: can you showme the output of "uname -a"
[13:16] <varunendra> Laurenceb__, which driver it was ? Just curious.
[13:16] <xqee> Linux hlinux 3.5.0-23-generic #35~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 25 17:15:33 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[13:16] <ikonia> xqee: ok, so as you can see in that page you listed, it needs 3.7 kernel
[13:17] <ikonia> xqee: you have 3.5
[13:17] <xqee> how can i get that kernel ?
[13:17] <ikonia> xqee: you can't really.....what version of ubuntu is this ?
[13:17] <xqee> 12.04 lts server
[13:17] <varunendra> xqee, 13.04 has kernel 3.8+
[13:17] <ikonia> xqee: ok, so you have 2 choices
[13:17] <ikonia> xqee: 1.) use the back ported kernel form 12.10/13.04 - 2.) install 13.04
[13:17] <irssi-mike> i've changed x-terminal-emulator in update-alternatives but when i press ctrl+alt+t i'm still getting gnome-emulator
[13:18] <ikonia> xqee: is here a reason you choice 12.04 over 13.04 when you installed ?
[13:18] <xqee> ikonia amd duron 900mhz, 256 mb ram and agp 64mb card
[13:18] <irssi-mike> nevermind i'll just try bringing lightdm down and up again
[13:18] <ikonia> xqee: sorry, that's not what I asked
[13:18] <xqee> if that config can handle 13.04 ill install it
[13:19] <ikonia> xqee: no more / less thatn 12.04
[13:19] <ikonia> xqee: you're really on the limit of usability though
[13:19] <ikonia> xqee: 256ram is not enough to run it
[13:19] <ikonia> xqee: the duron is a very weak processor for a modern deskop
[13:20] <xqee> ikonia i know i just want ftp server, and pvr desktop (headendtv) it should work
[13:20] <ikonia> xqee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[13:20] <ikonia> xqee: it's really lacking ram and your processesor is on the limit of "required"
[13:21] <xqee> i have other dvb-t card
[13:21] <xqee> sec ill check what is its name
[13:21] <ikonia> the dvb card is not the problem
[13:21] <mumpitzel> xqee: run lubuntu
[13:22] <xqee> ikonia, can i run this IT9135 BDA Device
[13:22] <ikonia> xqee: it's not the card that's the problem
[13:22] <mumpitzel> xqee: your cpu might be too slow to decode the HD mpeg stream. and unity will use more RAM than your PC has which is why you should choose anotehr desktop environment
[13:23] <ikonia> the desktop enviornment wo'nt matter
[13:23] <ikonia> lxde and xfce still require 512
[13:23] <xqee> i wont use it to watch tv on it, its just server
[13:23] <ikonia> READ the requirements page
[13:23] <xqee> i use xfce4 on that machine :)
[13:24] <ikonia> xqee: ok, then use 13.04
[13:24] <ikonia> xqee: and you can use your TV card, no issue
[13:24] <mumpitzel> ikonia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#System_Requirements they clearly state 256MB is fine.
[13:25] <xqee> ikonia do i need some drivers or something ?
[13:25] <ikonia> mumpitzel: yes, it's listed as !minimal
[13:25] <mumpitzel> xubuntu wants 256min and 512 recommended
[13:25] <ikonia> xqee: no, as it has the kernel that supports it
[13:25] <ikonia> mumpitzel: exactly minimum
[13:25] <mumpitzel> ikonia: no. 128MB is minimal. 256-386 is "better and more usable"
[13:25] <mumpitzel> ikonia: please read the page more carefully
[13:25] <ikonia> really it's 128
[13:25] <ikonia> mumpitzel: yes, I can see the link hanging off it
[13:25] <xqee> ikonia what is this ? Compiling v9.08.14.1 may be very adventurous. I have made some pathology to original driver :) and reduce it only to ASUS_U3100_mini device and fix various incompatibilities. Minimum additional modification are needed to installing. Works well for kernel < 2.6.35.
[13:26] <ikonia> xqee: why are you not listening to what I've said
[13:26] <ikonia> xqee: if you install 13.04 - it has the right kernel in for it to work out the box
[13:26] <xqee> ikonia sorry and thanks on your help
[13:26] <ikonia> xqee: you're using 3.5 currently, so why are you looking at kernel 2.6.35 details
[13:26] <xqee> ikonia iam going to get 13.04
[13:27] <ikonia> xqee: the wiki page you've quoted to me shows it has native support as of 3.7 kerne
[13:27] <ikonia> kernel
[13:27] <xqee> ikonia ubuntu server 13.04 doesnt have 32bit support ?
[13:28] <ikonia> xqee: there is a 32bit version, yes
[13:28] <xqee> ikonia found it thanks!
[13:29] <Fernseher> Arch Linux vs. Ubuntu
[13:29] <Fernseher> GO !
[13:29] <ikonia> Fernseher: no
[13:29] <ikonia> Fernseher: there is no need for that discussion, and it is pointless, as it's personal opinion
[13:29] <ikonia> Fernseher: do some research and find out what you like
[13:29] <ikonia> Fernseher: also you'll get a better response if you talk to people in the hcannel rather than joining and barking words at them
[13:30] <Fernseher> ^^
[13:31] <huttan> Winner: ikonia
[13:31] <huttan> lol :)
[13:31] <ikonia> no need for that
[13:31] <randomaussie> while i'm re-learning linux.. can i just mount the hole hard drive to / and have linux compensate?
[13:31] <huttan> ikonia: im well aware of the rules, u just made me smile mate :)
[13:31] <ikonia> randomaussie: what do you mean by compensate ?
[13:32] <randomaussie> if i just mount the hole drive to / will linux handle np /root /home?
[13:32] <hocin20> metasploit problem please help..
[13:32] <ikonia> randomaussie: sure sure, no problem with that
[13:32] <ikonia> randomaussie: they are just directories, nothing more
[13:32] <hocin20> what this message Problem running post-install step. Installation may not complete correctly
[13:32] <hocin20>  Error running su postgres -c '"/opt/metasploit/postgresql/bin/pg_ctl" start -w' : pg_ctl.bin: could not start server
[13:32] <hocin20> Examine the log output.
[13:33] <ikonia> hocin20: that is not postgres installed by ubuntu
[13:33] <ikonia> hocin20: that has come from a 3rd party resource, and not something we deal with
[13:34] <randomaussie> ikonia: thanks mate..
[13:34] <hocin20> 3rd party resource..
[13:36] <Guest5021> hello guys somebody can help me to install ubuntu touch on my tablet step by step?
[13:36] <hocin20> how i can install metasploit correctely in ubuntu 12.04
[13:36] <randomaussie> fair... i used dd to make my a bootalbe usb drive from the 12.04 iso and i get an error that i cant get past saying "/dev/sda contains GPT singature bla bla" asking if its corrupt or not but clicking yes and no do nothing
[13:37] <ikonia> hocin20: the problem there isn't metasploits the postgres binary it's trying to run
[13:37] <randomaussie> haha ffs....***
[13:37] <ikonia> randomaussie: no need for that language
[13:37] <randomaussie> yeah i know just frustrated i'v gotten nowhere with weeks of playing around
[13:38] <Guest5021> nobody can help me?
[13:38] <hocin20> Another problem is the failure of the database configuration
[13:40] <ikonia> hocin20: as I've just said, that postgres install has not come from ubuntu,
[13:40] <ikonia> hocin20: you'll need to work with where you got that metasploit build/database setup from to get it resolved.
[13:40] <ikonia> hocin20: postgres has an ubuntu package, but you are using 3rd party builds/software
[13:41] <Guest5021> hello guys somebody can help me to install ubuntu touch on my tablet step by step?
[13:42] <Guest5021> hello guys somebody can help me to install ubuntu touch on my tablet step by step?
[13:42] <Guest5021> hello guys somebody can help me to install ubuntu touch on my Acer Iconia B1 tablet step by step?
[13:43] <ikonia> Guest5021: please check your private message window
[13:44] <moes> What command do I use to delete 10.04 partition so I can clean install 12.04 lts
[13:44] <GothPaw> Hello, I'm trying to mount a ntfs hdd and I keep getting this error:  -->  In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows then reboot into Windows twice. Is there a way to do this "WITHOUT" windows? I don't have access to a windows machine.....
[13:44] <ikonia> moes: just use gparted
[13:44] <ikonia> GothPaw: really need to do it from windows, it's the right tool for the right job
[13:44] <moes> ikonia, Thanks
[13:45] <GothPaw> I dont have windows.....  NEVER have
[13:45] <ikonia> GothPaw: then why do you have an NTFS disk
[13:45] <paulus68> hi Ikonia long time no see is there a good software to create an disk image of ubuntu like Norton ghost for windows?
[13:45] <ikonia> paulus68: hello there, there are a few ways to approach this
[13:46] <ikonia> paulus68: is this image to be used as a disk backup, a deployment for one machine, a deployment for multiple machines etc etc
[13:47] <paulus68> ikonia: just a backup to use after all my programs are installed so whenever I have to much trash I can just start over with the created image
[13:47] <Guest5021> Acer Iconia B1, is it possible to install ubuntu touch on this device?
[13:47] <ikonia> paulus68: how big is your hard disk ?
[13:47] <paulus68> ikonia: it's 60 gig
[13:47] <gordonjcp> Guest5021: ask in #ubuntu-touch
[13:47] <ikonia> paulus68: do you have somewhere to store a 60GB image ?
[13:48] <ikonia> eg: usb disk
[13:48] <Guest5021> ty
[13:48] <paulus68> ikonia: I can yes
[13:48] <gordonjcp> GothPaw: will fsck.ntfs fix it?
[13:48] <MrSassyPants> ok, DDNS-Question: can someone explain to me why the dhcp'd/ddns'd notebook ends up in a .local zone? I can ping it with book.local, but book.mydomain doesn't find it. I have no .local zone and as far as I can tell, ddns is set up so dhcp'd clients should end up in .mydomain
[13:48] <ikonia> paulus68: perfect, I think if you use "dd" to take an image from a livecd you'll find that the best way to approch this
[13:48] <ikonia> gordonjcp: doesn't fix the warning, plus it's not great
[13:49] <ikonia> I've seen it corrupt a few file systems
[13:49] <paulus68> ikonia: ok thanks
[13:49] <ikonia> paulus68: dd will take a block by block image, which means it will take the partition table, boot sector, grub etc etc, all in one go
[13:49] <ikonia> paulus68: do you know how to do it with "dd" ?
[13:49] <gordonjcp> ikonia: well that's what happens when you try to squeeze 40-year-old VMS disks onto modern machines
[13:49] <paulus68> ikonia: nope never worked with it
[13:50] <ikonia> paulus68: ok, you want to take the image of your disk, while running from a livecd if possible (so that nothing is in use)
[13:50] <paulus68> ikonia: brb kids in  trouble
[13:50] <ikonia> paulus68: ok
[13:50] <giraffe_> anyone get left4dead2 working?
[13:51] <xqee> giraffe_ it should work with ubuntu 13.04
[13:51] <OerHeks> GothPaw, the only tool i can think of without Windows, is UBcd, ultimate boot cd with free mbr/ntfs/partition tools
[13:51] <ikonia> you're not going to do this safely / correctly without windows
[13:52] <xqee> giraffe_ with steam
[13:52] <giraffe_> yes with steam
[13:52] <MrBarry> An IOGear print server is giving me a "Error writing spool: NT_STATUS_IO_TIMEOUT" error with 12.04. Any ideas?
[13:52] <giraffe_> should and have ..
[13:52] <giraffe_> lots of people have good intentions and usually fail
[13:52] <GothPaw> because I have a friend that stops by once in a while with a netbook
[13:52] <acdarekar> I have win7x64 UEFI GPT scheme installation. Tried to install Ubuntu13.04x64 using USB-stick. The stick boots but keyboard freezes. Can anybody shade some light over the matter?
[13:52] <paulus68> ikonia: back
[13:53] <ikonia> GothPaw: I'm sure you must know someone with a windows machine who can quickly run a chkdsk on it
[13:53] <randomaussie> no matter how many times i remake my bootable ucb stick i keep getting hte GPT error.. i cant work out what i'm foing worng... only started getting htem today
[13:53] <xqee> acdarekar did you tried ps/2 keyboard ?
[13:53] <ikonia> paulus68: ok, boot from livecd, plug in usb drive, then do "dd if=/dev/yourdisk of=/dev/yourusbdisk bs=2m"
[13:53] <gordonjcp> randomaussie: has it previously been partitioned with GPT?
[13:53] <ikonia> paulus68: where you replace the disks eg: /dev/sda and /dev/sdc
[13:54] <randomaussie> fat a fat 32 usb
[13:54] <xqee> acdarekar also enable usb keyboard support in bios
[13:54] <randomaussie> itsa**
[13:54] <ikonia> paulus68: quick read on "man dd" wouldn't hurt
[13:54] <gordonjcp> GothPaw: can you use fsck.ntfs to get it going enough to mount, then copy everything off and reformat it?
[13:54] <GothPaw> ikonia. nope i dont....  only one person who has a netbook and i obviously cant put a desktop hdd  in that
[13:54] <ikonia> GothPaw: you can with a usb connector
[13:55] <gordonjcp> why would a netbook help?
[13:55] <acdarekar> I am using PS/2 KB. I booted latest archlinux build in the same way I want ubuntu to.
[13:55] <ikonia> gordonjcp: it's the only person he knows with a windows install to actually do a chkdsk on the device hs' having a problem
[13:55] <acdarekar> The archlinux installation works
[13:55] <Guest5021> Acer Iconia B1 Is it possible to install ubuntu touch on this device
[13:55] <Guest5021> ?
[13:56] <GothPaw> usb connector? its an internal drive.....
[13:56] <ikonia> Guest5021: #ubuntu-touch is the correct channel as you've been told
[13:56] <gordonjcp> Guest5021: stop asking that over and over
[13:56] <paulus68> ikonia: ok thanks just another quick question is there an ubuntu, xubuntu or lubuntu that doesn't need pae? since my other laptop doesn't work with this
[13:56] <ikonia> paulus68: what do you mean doesn't need pae ?
[13:56] <gordonjcp> GothPaw: pop the drive out, plug it into a USB adaptor
[13:56] <Guest5021> there is nobody online on that channel
[13:56] <ikonia> Guest5021: there are many people
[13:56] <GothPaw> ill try the fsck.ntfs
[13:56] <ikonia> GothPaw: I assume the data is not important
[13:56] <gordonjcp> ikonia: oh, you can run Windows on netbooks?
[13:56] <paulus68> ikonia: During install I get the message that my cpu is not supported due to pae
[13:56] <randomaussie> Gordonjcp: the usb is being formatter each time to fat 32 and hte install srive i clear the partition table each time i try
[13:56] <ikonia> gordonjcp:....apparantly
[13:57] <GothPaw> i dont have this "adapter"
[13:57] <GothPaw> yes, the data is semi-important
[13:57] <ikonia> GothPaw: then I would not recommend fsck.ntfs
[13:58] <gordonjcp> randomaussie: right, but has it ever been partitioned with GPT?
[13:58] <anonee> im compiling ponymix, and when i try to do sudo make I get: g++ -std=c++11 -Wall -Wextra -pedantic -O2 -g -DPONYMIX_VERSION=\"1\"  -D_REENTRANT      -c -o pulse.o pulse.cc
[13:58] <anonee> cc1plus: error: unrecognized command line option ‘-std=c++11’
[13:58] <anonee> make: *** [pulse.o] Error 1
[13:59] <gordonjcp> anonee: don't do "sudo make"
[13:59] <randomaussie> gordonjcp: i never di it myself i dont even know what it is
[13:59] <gordonjcp> randomaussie: try zeroing out the first *and last* few blocks of the disk
[13:59] <acdarekar> @xqee My problem is unique, I never found anything relevant to my search but somewhere some dude mentioned the same in relation with arcjlinux, so I downloaded that distro. The KB doesn't freeze in that case. But it does in ubuntu13.04x64 UEFI GPT scheme.
[13:59] <randomaussie> gordonjcp: ok remaking the usb agian
[14:00] <anonee> gordonjcp :)
[14:00] <xqee> acdarekar i do not know than, try to ask ikonia (hes expert)
[14:01] <GothPaw> ikonia: what can i do then?
[14:01] <acdarekar> @xqee, I am a bit blunt in irc rules, can I @ mention him?
[14:01] <ikonia> GothPaw: here are you options 1.) use the windows tools form somewhere - the correct tools for the job, and make sure you friend does a proper job giving you data 2.) use other tools such suggested which may/may not help, but also have a risk of damaging the data
[14:01] <xqee> highlight him, yes
[14:02] <acdarekar> @ikonia, Hi! I have win7x64 UEFI GPT scheme installation. Tried to install Ubuntu13.04x64 using USB-stick. The stick boots but keyboard freezes. Can you shade some light over the matter?
[14:03] <ikonia> acdarekar: I'd try simple tests such as hit the capslock key to see if the light goes on/off find out if it really has hung, or is just not working
[14:03] <ikonia> acdarekar: also at what point it stops working maybe important
[14:05] <acdarekar> The UEFI boot menu- screen where it lets me choose between install ubuntu or try ubuntu  or check the installation media. The keyboard freezes to numLock key.
[14:06] <ikonia> acdarekar: hang on, the boot menu from the boot loader on the usb stick, or the menu from the uefi selection sreen from your system
[14:06] <acdarekar> @ikonia I am using the same KB for windows and this live session of a 32bit .iso
[14:07] <acdarekar> @ikonia the one from bootloader, I have to manually select to boot into UEFI stick by using F10 key.
[14:09] <columb> How do I restore default system packages?
[14:10] <acdarekar> I have used win xp-x386, win7-x386, win7-x64 using the same KB
[14:11] <keijo_> osx
[14:12] <netlar> If I get "Data Set Management TRIM supported" with the hdparm command, my ssd is already using Trim and nothing needs to be changed right?
[14:12] <acdarekar> @ikonia, I am pretty sure it's a bug.
[14:14] <MrSassyPants> is guvcview still the best thing to test webcams?
[14:18] <donivanboo> hey people i have a question
[14:18]  * [Derek] hi
[14:18] <GiGaHuRtZ> Who has experience compiling and installing a kernel on ubuntu not using the "debian/ubnuu way"?
[14:19] <ikonia> acdarekar: a bug in what ?
[14:19] <donivanboo> hey whats the best way to set a dual boot  i have a currently installed oem windows instal and want to choose what to boot as soon as i boot
[14:19] <ikonia> GiGaHuRtZ: yes, why ?
[14:19] <ikonia> donivanboo: if you install ubuntu along side windows, you get a boot menu to select which you want to boot
[14:19] <GiGaHuRtZ> ikonia: I can build the kernel, and on other distros I know how to install it. I just want to know if there is a preferred method of installation on ubuntu.
[14:20] <donivanboo> soo if i boot live and set it to instal and set a partition when it instals it will auto do it?
[14:20] <ikonia> GiGaHuRtZ: what do yo umean prefered way ?, it's basically one file dropped into /boot until you are building proper pacakges, what are you actually asking ?
[14:20] <GiGaHuRtZ> Like is there a way to get the kernel to be added to those scripts that run sometimes during upgrades where it checks and reconfigures grub and sutff
[14:20] <ikonia> donivanboo: auto what /
[14:20] <ikonia> GiGaHuRtZ: it will not be part of any of the official ubuntu scripts, such as the grub update scripts, as ubuntu's package manager will not be aware of it
[14:21] <GiGaHuRtZ> Ok, Well if I wanted to build packagtes. How can I go about doing it. I found some decent directions on packaging the kernel
[14:21] <GiGaHuRtZ> Let me show you
[14:21] <acdarekar> @ikonia may be a installer bug, or my hardware setup is not ok with the ubuntu 13.04 x64
[14:21] <donivanboo> will it auto set up the bootloader without damaging anything?
[14:21] <acdarekar> @ikonia, the same installer works if I disable UEFI boot.
[14:21] <GiGaHuRtZ> ikonia: I was looking at using basically this http://pastebin.com/NTnXg1ci
[14:21] <donivanboo> ive heard its easy to mess up the master boot record?
[14:22] <ikonia> acdarekar: sorry, I'm still not clear, which menu it's hanging on, the UEFI one from your system, or the boot menu from the usb stick
[14:22] <GiGaHuRtZ> which does work for packaging into a deb
[14:22] <GiGaHuRtZ> but I had one issue with that command for building to a package
[14:22] <ikonia> GiGaHuRtZ: sorry, that looks bad to me.
[14:22] <acdarekar> @ikonia The boot menu from the Stick.
[14:22] <GiGaHuRtZ> the "kernel-headers" part
[14:22] <ikonia> acdarekar: interesting
[14:22] <GiGaHuRtZ> ikonia: Well its shown in the ubuntu help as being a good way to do it
[14:22] <GiGaHuRtZ> And others agreed
[14:23] <acdarekar> @ikonia yes and frustrating to me.
[14:23] <ikonia> then why are you asking, you already have your answer, I disagree, but that's just my view
[14:23] <GiGaHuRtZ> But like I said, if I try building with "kernel-headers" it doesnt know a target with that name
[14:23] <donivanboo> and after i do so if i wanted could i instal backtrack 5 with it not removing that or messing either up?
[14:23] <GiGaHuRtZ> Omfg....
[14:23] <ikonia> GiGaHuRtZ: please do'nt use that language
[14:23] <GiGaHuRtZ> what language?
[14:23] <ikonia> donivanboo: multiple linux distributions, that's getting more complex
[14:23] <ikonia> GiGaHuRtZ: OMFG
[14:23] <GiGaHuRtZ> Seriously, I really do not care for language anyway. This is IRC, I'm not afraid of consequences.
[14:23] <BluesKaj> GiGaHuRtZ, this one is worth a try , no need to build, just add the deb , apt-cache search to find the headers and the kernels. http://liquorix.net/
[14:24] <donivanboo> i just want windows 7 ubuntu and backtrack XD
[14:24] <ikonia> donivanboo: ok, join #backtrack-linux and ask them for help
[14:24] <GiGaHuRtZ> lmao
[14:24] <donivanboo> kk
[14:25] <satyam> heyy
[14:25] <donivanboo> it wont let me send messages on there =/
[14:25] <donivanboo> also says no loger supported or maintained
[14:25] <ikonia> donivanboo: you need to register on the freenode network to use the channel
[14:26] <ikonia> donivanboo: the #freenode channel can help you with that
[14:26] <acdarekar> @ikonia, where should I seek more info? Google failed me or doesnt give relavan results to my keywords.
[14:26] <ikonia> acdarekar: I'm just having a look myself at the moment
[14:26] <ikonia> acdarekar: is there anything specificl about this keyboard ?
[14:27] <acdarekar> Nope, I never found anything, I even borrowed my friends it still doesnt work on my system.
[14:27] <ikonia> acdarekar: interesting, so you've actually tried another keyboard
[14:28] <ikonia> acdarekar: I don't know if this is possible, but it would certainly interest me, but can you boot ubuntu from a cd and do the same test ?
[14:29] <acdarekar> @ikonia, yes I have tried another KB since someone suggested me to do the same two weeks ago. No I cant boot CD, as I dont have a CD-ROM. Its very hard to get hands on one. I can give you CPU-Z result.
[14:30] <streulma> does Microsoft Silverlight works with Ubuntu ?
[14:31] <ikonia> acdarekar: why do I want cpu-z results
[14:31] <Nothing_Much> I need some help
[14:31] <Nothing_Much> snd-cmipci isn't working for me
[14:32] <Nothing_Much> I can't insert snd_cmipci in my modules
[14:33] <UnHolyTerror> streulma, no but moonlight does... and the newest WINE1.6 has support for Silverlight. have you tried downloading silverlight from your linux system?
[14:33] <Nothing_Much> Bah
[14:34] <streulma> UnHolyTerror: I think the sound is bad in Ubuntu. I have a site that has Silverlight (new Silverlight) support, but I saw didn't works on Linux
[14:35] <Nothing_Much> Don't use Wine
[14:35] <satyam> What has happened to UbuntuForums....?? It's still not Recovered..!! I want it badly...
[14:35] <Nothing_Much> satyam, Me too, I'm having a pretty big problem with snd-cmipci
[14:35] <acdarekar> @ikonia, CPU-z results if you want insights of my assembled desktop.
[14:36] <streulma> UnHolyTerror: I stick with Windows XP then :( Windows 7 with 120 days support is an option :)
[14:37] <Nothing_Much> Can I please get some help with snd_cmipci? It won't load for me after an update today
[14:38] <zagibu> hello guys, i have no sound on my asus laptop, it seems the soundcard is not recognized, because the only channel I see in alsamixer is "BEEP"
[14:38] <blischalk> My ubuntu 13.04 hangs at the booting screen with the dots and can't track figure out how to debug.  I have searched the net and the only  help I have found is to pres ESC while it is booting but the boot seems to be stuck in a loop.  Things fly by so fast you can't really make out what is being said but I can tell it seems the same sorts of lines are being repeated.
[14:39] <blischalk> Has anyone else been having problems with ubuntu 13.04 hanging recently?
[14:40] <zagibu> i've already donesome research and it seems snd-hda-intel should be the correct module
[14:40] <Nothing_Much> zagibu, What?
[14:40] <Nothing_Much> I'm using a C-Media sound card
[14:40] <Nothing_Much> I NEED snd-cmipci
[14:41] <zagibu> i have no sound, alsa doesn't recog the onboard sound
[14:41] <Nothing_Much> It just stopped working after I updated it!!
[14:42] <Nothing_Much> I'm on Ubuntu 13.10
[14:42] <Nothing_Much> Does that make a difference?
[14:42] <BluesKaj> zagibu, open a terminal and run , sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , then you may have to reboot , if the driver/module is corrctly loaded , there will be no output from the command
[14:43] <zagibu> BluesKaj: when I do that and check the syslog, it says failed to loadthe module
[14:44] <Nothing_Much> It's not using the right sound card :/
[14:44] <zagibu> hmmm, no wait, it didn't log an error now
[14:44] <Nothing_Much> I had to blacklist snd-hda-intel because it would default to my graphics and onboard card
[14:44] <Nothing_Much> *sound cards
[14:44] <kovu2296> hello i have a asus1201n and it keeps overheating how do i overclock the fan speed
[14:45] <xqee> kovu2296 try in bios
[14:45] <BluesKaj> Nothing_Much, run sudo modprobe snd-cmipci , and read theabove post to zagibu
[14:45] <Nothing_Much> ERROR: could not insert 'snd_cmipci': Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[14:45] <kovu2296> @xqee how please
[14:45] <zagibu> alright, will reboot to see if it changedanything
[14:46] <Nothing_Much> I just did
[14:46] <Nothing_Much> Still nothing
[14:46] <BluesKaj> Nothing_Much, then the snd-cmipci is not the right name of the kernel module
[14:46] <xqee> you should have hardware tab in bios  and smart fan option enable it and you should control fan
[14:46] <xqee> also repleace thermal paste
[14:47] <Nothing_Much> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-cmipci
[14:47] <Nothing_Much> It is
[14:47] <Nothing_Much> :/
[14:47] <FloodBot1> Nothing_Much: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:47] <xqee> if its laptop clean it
[14:47] <kovu2296> so i restart with f2 to enter bios
[14:47] <moondog> anyone been to the ubuntu forums recently?
[14:48] <kovu2296> its a netbook
[14:48] <Nothing_Much> moondog, it's still down atm
[14:48] <moondog> yeah, I noticed
[14:48] <moondog> security breach
[14:48] <moondog> unfortunate
[14:49] <Nothing_Much> Guh
[14:52] <BluesKaj> Nothing_Much, paste the output , cat /proc/asound/modules
[14:53] <Nothing_Much> I don't have an output
[14:53] <Catbuntu> Hihi, what's Ubuntu Discourse?
[14:54] <ikonia> Catbuntu: in what reference ?
[14:54] <Catbuntu> ubuntu-discourse.org
[14:54] <ikonia> Catbuntu: that's not an official ubuntu site
[14:54] <Catbuntu> No?
[14:54] <Catbuntu> It has the Ubuntu-ish menu at the top
[14:54] <kovu2296> i tried what you said but there was not that option in the bios menu
[14:55] <xqee> kovu2296 is that laptop or desktop pc ?
[14:55] <kovu2296> its a netbook
[14:55] <ikonia> Catbuntu: looks like it may become official at some point authenticating against ubuntu-one
[14:55] <xqee> try to clean it out
[14:55] <Nothing_Much> I don't have an output
[14:55] <Catbuntu> uhm
[14:55] <xqee> clean fan and other
[14:56] <kovu2296> i have done i blew it out with a air can
[14:56] <kovu2296> is there a command so i can install smartfan
[14:57] <izidor> hi, is there somebody who can help me with a custom XKB layout?
[14:57] <Nothing_Much> What's an 'mpu_port'?
[14:57] <xqee> install sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[14:57] <izidor> for some reason, in 13.04 AltGr combination doesn't work
[14:58] <xqee> Install lm-sensors than run sudo sensors-detect
[14:58] <xqee> check temperatures
[14:58] <Corey> I thought lm-sensors had been deprecated?
[14:59] <Corey> I thought wrong. Disregard me.
[14:59] <Nothing_Much> I don't have an output
[14:59] <Nothing_Much> Bah
[14:59] <xqee> idk :)
[15:01] <kovu2296> ok i said yes to all the prompts now what
[15:01] <xqee> type sensors
[15:02] <xqee> and you should get output
[15:02] <Nothing_Much> Can I get some help with CMI PCI please??
[15:03] <kovu2296> acpitz-virtual-0
[15:03] <kovu2296> Adapter: Virtual device
[15:03] <kovu2296> temp1:        +74.0°C  (crit = +93.0°C)
[15:03] <kovu2296> coretemp-isa-0000
[15:03] <kovu2296> Adapter: ISA adapter
[15:03] <kovu2296> Core 0:       +85.0°C  (crit = +125.0°C)
[15:03] <FloodBot1> kovu2296: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:03] <kovu2296> Core 1:       +88.0°C  (crit = +125.0°C)
[15:04] <kovu2296> sorry :s i forgot about the paste flood fuction
[15:05] <BluesKaj> Nothing_Much, run aplay -l .pastebin the output pls
[15:05] <Nothing_Much> No soundcards found >:/
[15:06] <Nothing_Much> I'm telling you though, I have a C-Media sound card and the module isn't loading for me after today's update to Ubuntu 13.10!
[15:06] <kovu2296> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5897522/
[15:07] <NewbtoArch> how do I open a terminal fom a terminal
[15:07] <mumpitzel> Nothing_Much: and what is the error message when you try loading it?
[15:07] <Nothing_Much> ........
[15:07] <Nothing_Much> ERROR: could not insert 'snd_cmipci': Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[15:07] <Nothing_Much> That's it
[15:07] <xqee> pretty high, try to  disassembly your netbook , repleace thermal paste and clean it out.
[15:07] <NewbtoArch> anyone?
[15:07] <mumpitzel> Nothing_Much: then do what the helpful error message says. most likely the module is not from the current kernel
[15:07] <Nothing_Much> [ 1685.179288] snd_cmipci: Unknown parameter `mpu_port'
[15:08] <BluesKaj> Nothing_Much, have you tried a dist-upgrade ?
[15:08] <Nothing_Much> Still nothing
[15:09] <Nothing_Much> well
[15:09] <Nothing_Much> How do I get back to an earlier kernel?
[15:09] <Nothing_Much> Through grub
[15:09] <mumpitzel> Nothing_Much: install the earlier kernel with dpkg or apt
[15:09] <mumpitzel> check if the kernel deb is still in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[15:09] <james> hello
[15:10] <xqee> ikonia 13.04 installed and runs without problems on 256mb ram
[15:10] <kovu2296> i cant disasemmble my netbook i had it maintained a week ago in the show and they did replace the thermal paste and blow it out with the compressed air blower and the fan is working so it can only be the fan speed left
[15:10] <ikonia> xqee: 13.04 ubuntu / lubuntu /xubuntu ?
[15:10] <xqee> ubuntu
[15:10] <ikonia> xqee: I doubt that very much
[15:10] <ikonia> xqee: but I'm glad you've got your card working
[15:11] <xqee> thanks
[15:11] <dozcoov> ubuntu forum was hacked
[15:11] <gaz1310> ok sherlock
[15:12] <k1l14> i downgraded my kernel to 3.4, trying to get this nvidia driver package installed. but now when i select the kernel in grub and try to access terminal after i logout of xubuntu, nothing shows...
[15:12] <k1l14> ;0(
[15:12] <gaz1310> uh
[15:12] <gaz1310> 3.4? why
[15:13] <k1l14> the driver package wont work with a kernel higher then that
[15:13] <k1l14> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.07-pkg1
[15:13] <BluesKaj> k1l14, which driver?
[15:14] <gaz1310> sudo apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[15:14] <k1l14> its for a geforce3 ti 200
[15:14] <gaz1310> jockey-text --help
[15:14] <gaz1310> jockey-text -l
[15:14] <gaz1310> jockey-text -e xorg:nvidia_current
[15:14] <BluesKaj> won't the nvidia-current driver run that card?
[15:14] <BluesKaj> k1l14,^
[15:15] <k1l14> nope ;0(
[15:15] <k1l14> its a dino card, lol
[15:15] <dozcoov> For security purposes, please change the password of your email address registered to ubuntuforums.org
[15:15] <gaz1310> its kernel related
[15:16] <k1l14> was that directed at me gaz?
[15:16] <k1l14> i have to run them commands?
[15:17] <gaz1310> yeah
[15:18] <gaz1310> that way you can install without X
[15:18] <gaz1310> last resort
[15:19] <JacksonIsaac> .
[15:19] <k1l14> Package xserver-xorg-video-nouveau is not installed, so not removed
[15:19] <gaz1310> good
[15:19] <k1l14> i think it's using the vesa driver
[15:19] <gaz1310> now try the rest
[15:20] <mumpitzel> k1l14: the old nvidia binary drivers need not only old kernel(s) but old Xorg versions too. if your card isn't supported by nvidia anymore, just use nouveau
[15:20] <gaz1310> lol how OLd is the card
[15:21] <joshu_> hi is there an ubuntu equivalent to team viewer? I know team viewer is available for ubuntu but I think it requires wine.
[15:21] <mumpitzel> !vino
[15:22] <k1l14> i dunno but it's old as hell
[15:22] <k1l14> lol
[15:22] <mumpitzel> joshu_: vino is a standard vnc server and part of gnome
[15:22] <xqee> http://download.teamviewer.com/download/teamviewer_linux.deb
[15:22] <mumpitzel> k1l14: what does lspci -nn say?
[15:22] <gaz1310> lol
[15:22] <xqee> http://www.teamviewer.com/hr/download/linux.aspx
[15:22] <k1l14> i get this: Unknown driver: xorg:nvidia_current
[15:22] <vfw> joshu_: There are a couple of vnc options, but no, I don't think there is something that can really replace teamviewer, (just install teamviewer if you need it).
[15:22] <BluesKaj> mumpitzel, 's suggestion is a good one nouveau works very well
[15:22] <gaz1310> yeah
[15:22] <gaz1310> read the pci output
[15:22] <xqee> http://www.teamviewer.com/hr/help/363-How-do-I-install-TeamViewer-on-my-Linux-distribution.aspx
[15:23] <joshu_> hi mumpitzel but a vnc server makes remote support difficult with regards to firewalls, nat etc which I can't expect a user to understand how to configure. Teamviewer solves that
[15:23] <gaz1310> lspci -nn
[15:24] <joshu_> xqee I installed the deb package, but I'm trying to figure out how to start it with I only have a minimal ubuntu install with xserver-xorg and lightdm
[15:25] <xqee> try type temviewer
[15:25] <gaz1310> joshu_   install -fy
[15:25] <mumpitzel> joshu_: dpkg -L <packagename>|grep bin  and you know where the binaries are and what their names are
[15:25] <vfw> joshu_: Shouldn't be a problem, just find out what the executable is.  In a terminal type teamv and hit tab, that should show you, (may be teamviewer8).
[15:26] <joshu_> gaz1310 mumpitzel vfw ok so when I drop to the terminal via ctrl+alt+F1 (again minimal system and GUI) and I execute team viewer I get the following
[15:27] <vfw> joshu_: (The tab key is your friend.)
[15:27] <joshu_> http://cl.ly/image/3Y31170O1r14
[15:28] <xqee> joshu_ first type startx
[15:28] <xqee> than try temviewer
[15:29] <xqee> you do not have any gui to teamviewer work with
[15:29] <vfw> joshu_: Is this (http://cl.ly/image/3Y31170O1r14) a console or a GUI terminal. (Because teamviewer requires an X windows session).
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> caniocal should really leverage ubuntu one, and add some stuff like a teamviewer-type clone and other features to make ubuntu stand out from the other disrtos.  ;)
[15:30] <gaz1310> soon it will be a MiR session :D
[15:30] <joshu_> xqee that the terminal I get when I do ctrl+alt+F1 from the lightdm greeter
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> joshu_,  the consoles are on alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 - X session should be on alt-ctrl-f7
[15:32] <joshu_> Dr_Willis when I do ctrl-alt-f7 I get back to the lightdm greeter yes
[15:32] <xqee> joshu_ instal xfce4 and than should work :)
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> teamviewer i imagine needs to be ran from a GUI X session.
[15:32] <gaz1310> log in to x
[15:33] <Dr_Willis> the error message sort of says that. ;)
[15:33] <vfw> joshu_: You said that you did ctrl+alt+F1 which would be a console mode, teamviewer won't work there.
[15:34] <k1l14> damn thing froze on me
[15:34] <k1l14> O_O
[15:34] <vfw> Dr_Willis: You are correct, teamviewer requires X
[15:34] <gaz1310> well
[15:34] <gaz1310> sudo teamviewer --daemon enable
[15:35] <gaz1310> shoud start the service
[15:35] <vfw> gaz1310: The instaler should have taken care of that and the deamon should already be running, (or that is what I suppose).
[15:36] <gaz1310> yeah prolly
[15:36] <Dr_Willis> I dont use teamviewer enoguh to even know ;)   sort of scary it uses wine, and  its running a service.. but that may be just the gui part that uses wine
[15:36] <vfw> gaz1310: (The error said "Application tried to create a window" and "Make sure that your X server is running".
[15:37] <joshu_> basically i have this http://cl.ly/image/0s3j3D2k1T1k when a user logs in an RDP session is started. n other guy. The reason for team viewer is so i can shadow the user and help them..if this makes sense
[15:37] <gaz1310> @wfw sure but the daemon should not need a x session
[15:38] <k1l14> how would i use the nouveau drivers?
[15:38] <vfw> joshu_: Looks as thought you've yet to login to your X-session.  Is that correct?
[15:39] <vfw> gaz1310: You are correct.
[15:39] <xqee> try to reboot than try execute temviewer
[15:40] <kovu2296> is there a version of linux that is netbookfriendly
[15:40] <vfw> xqee: I think he just needs to run it from an X-session.
[15:40] <gaz1310> teamwiever must come prepacked with wine  yes?
[15:40] <gaz1310> if so -then yes - u need X
[15:40] <Dr_Willis> kovu2296,  i have very few issues with ubuntu on my netbook
[15:40] <vfw> gaz1310: correct
[15:40] <Dr_Willis> kovu2296,  i tend to use Lubuntu on low end machines.
[15:40] <kovu2296> ok i have the latest machine
[15:41] <kovu2296> so lubuntu uo say
[15:41] <k1l14> what you talkin about willis?
[15:41] <gaz1310> ram?
[15:41] <k1l14> :0|
[15:41] <Dr_Willis> its trivial to have the lubuntu desktop installed on ubuntu. and try them both
[15:41] <xqee> iam running ubuntu server 13.04 with xfce fine :)
[15:42] <xqee> only 256 mb ram :D
[15:42] <gaz1310> why X on a server lol
[15:42] <gaz1310> just ssh into the box
[15:43] <gaz1310> anyway
[15:43] <gaz1310> k1ll4
[15:43] <gaz1310> nvidia adventures
[15:43] <k1l14> ;0)
[15:43] <gaz1310> updates :)
[15:44] <vexz> So I've read that amd drivers were going to be compatible with linux then nvidia drivers.
[15:44] <vexz> is this true?
[15:45] <gaz1310> woot
[15:46] <vfw> gaz1310: I think he left out "more"
[15:46] <gaz1310> hehe
[15:47] <k1l14> i checked additional drivers and i have two active but now in use...
[15:47] <k1l14> *not
[15:47] <danes> hello, anyone knows if there is a web interface for a scanner? I am running ubuntu in a server and I want to add a usb scanner but I want to be able to scan via a web interface
[15:47] <k1l14> nvidia_current and nvidia riva/tnt/geforce
[15:48] <k1l14> this is the first time i have ever seen that riva/tnt one
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> danes,  you could always use a minimal vnc session to run xsane in. but ive not noticed any remote-scanner stuff. never really looked
[15:49] <xqee> ikonia my tv card isnt working haha :)
[15:49] <gaz1310> oh
[15:49] <xqee> idk why
[15:49] <gaz1310> w8
[15:49] <gaz1310> nuke _current
[15:49] <gaz1310> lemme chk
[15:49] <gaz1310> now thats a DINO card :D
[15:49] <FloodBot1> gaz1310: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:49] <vfw> danes: I use simplescan
[15:49] <k1l14> :P
[15:50] <ikonia> xqee: can you expand upon "not working"
[15:50] <danes> vfw, Dr_Willis: it looks like SANE has a web interface http://sanewi.sourceforge.net/#preview
[15:50] <xqee> i tried to open it with vlc
[15:50] <k1l14> im thinking i need the riva/tnt/geforce one right?
[15:50] <xqee> and i get error
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> danes,  cant say ive ever tried that. ;) i scan rarely..
[15:50] <ikonia> xqee: you need to give more detail than that
[15:50] <danes> Dr_Willis:
[15:50] <xqee> ikonia wait
[15:51] <ikonia> VLC isn't TV Tuner software is it ?
[15:51] <danes> Dr_Willis: I wanted to buy the neat scanner but its insanely expensive and their software does not support linux
[15:51] <xqee> i use it in windows withut problems
[15:51] <vfw> !info simplescan | danes
[15:51] <gaz1310> k1ll4
[15:51] <gaz1310> can u chk etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:51] <vfw> !info simple-scan | danes
[15:51] <Dr_Willis> danes,  I tend to buy what i find on sale. ;)   but i perhaps scan 10 pages a year.
[15:51] <xqee> VLC is unable to open the MLR
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> VLC can access v4l devices i belive.  but its not ideal for the task
[15:52] <kovu2296> thank you everyone who has helped me today
[15:52] <ikonia> xqee: I'd look up what MLR means (I don't know without research myself)
[15:52] <gaz1310> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:52] <kovu2296> xqee and dr_willis
[15:52] <gaz1310> or gksudo
[15:53] <xqee> ikonia where is tv card mounted by default ?
[15:53] <ikonia> xqee: it's not mounted
[15:54] <xqee> ikonia what path ? /dev/dvb/adapter0
[15:54] <xqee> ?
[15:54] <xqee> how i can check that
[15:54] <ikonia> xqee: depends on the card, but that can be a valid path, check it exists
[15:54] <k1l14> no xorg.config gile there
[15:54] <k1l14> *file
[15:54] <xqee> ikonia it does not exist
[15:55] <joshu_> xqee vfw ok don't know if I'm explained it well enough, but the purpose of my custom ubuntu build is to make it a thin client. When you login at the lightdm greeter you don't get a regular ubuntu desktop. All that happens is that an RDP session is started to a windows server. That's where you work. I was hoping to get team viewer to start when you boot the ubuntu OS and that I as an administrator would be able to connect to the OS via team
[15:55] <joshu_>  viewer and see the lightdm greeter and help the user.
[15:55] <dD> How can I have bot alt+shift and alt+shift+tab as shortcuts? I had it before, in a previous version of gnome, but now I can't.
[15:57] <Mortix> hi, i got 2 graphic cards, 1 amd and the 2nd nvidia, im trying to watch 3 monitors, 2 connected to the amd and 1 to the nvidia
[15:57] <Mortix> but it show me only 2 monitors(the amd)
[15:57] <ikonia> xqee: ok, so you need to check the udev rules to see where it got created, or point your software at the correct device file
[15:57] <ikonia> Mortix: that's not going to work
[15:58] <ikonia> Mortix: while technically possible it will require multiple X servers setting up
[15:58] <Mortix> so how can i make 3 monitors?
[15:58] <Mortix> only with 2 amd graphic cards?
[15:58] <vfw> joshu_:  You won't be able to run the teamviewer application until logged into the X-session.
[15:59] <xqee> ikonia what i need to type ?
[15:59] <joshu_> vfw hmm so only vnc allows that?
[15:59] <vfw> joshu_: But, if you are doing all this within a LAN, (as opposed to going across the internet to the other machine), any other type of VNC application would be better.
[16:00] <ikonia> xqee: what do you mean, what do you need to type ?
[16:00] <vfw> joshu_: Is this all happening within your LAN?
[16:00] <k1l_> Mortix: the problem is how the linux xserver uses the drivers. you cant one 2 different drivers on one xserver.
[16:00] <xqee> ikonia to check that udev
[16:00] <joshu_> vfw of course but unfortunately this will happen across the internet at remote locations as the user will run this custom ubuntu on a laptop. That's why I'm trying to figure out a remote support solution
[16:00] <vfw> joshu_: (If so, there are better/easier solutions.
[16:00] <ikonia> xqee: I'd suggest reading the info on the wiki page you posted, see if it mentions the device file it creates
[16:01] <joshu_> vfw if it was on the LAN of course things would be easier.
[16:01] <Mortix> k1l_: so in case ill change the nvidia card to amd card, it should work?
[16:01] <Mortix> k1l_: since both of them will use the same driver no?
[16:01] <k1l_> Mortix: yep. but im out of experience with 3 monitors. so i cant guarantee that this is an easy one then
[16:01] <k1l_> Mortix: yep
[16:02] <ikonia> no,
[16:02] <ikonia> the nvidia binary drivers only support sockets on the same card
[16:02] <vfw> joshu_: So maybe use a combination of both.  Use another VNC server on the LAN and teamviewer across the internet. You can set the teamviewer application to start via Session Startup (~/.config/autostart),
[16:02] <ikonia> to use multiple cards with sockets you'd need to launch multiple x servers
[16:03] <xqee> ikonia can you help me install that or sth ?
[16:04] <vfw> joshu_: ON the LAN, tightvncserver / tightvncviewer and / or x11vnc are some further options. (But there are others.)
[16:04] <ikonia> sth ?
[16:04] <xqee> something
[16:04] <ikonia> xqee: I'd suggest reading the wiki page you posted and seeing if it mentions the device file it should create
[16:05] <xqee> http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Asus_U3100_Mini_plus_DVB-T
[16:05] <joshu_> vfw sure but as you explained for team viewer to run in the background and accept a connection I need to install something like xstart or similar, right? I'm more concerned with over the internet solution then on LAN as the latter is not likely to happen
[16:05] <GiGaHuRtZ> I know this error is badly formatted (it's just how it was spit out into the terminal): http://pastebin.com/ADiLrSTu I was running running glances for the past like 2 hours, and I just tabbed over to check myu disk I/O again, and it was crashed with that traceback. Any ideas what would cause this?
[16:05] <gaz1310> OT: compile on 3.11 makes my cpu cook eggs
[16:05] <k1l14> gaz1310: i tried that and there is no xorg.config file... ;0(
[16:06] <xqee> I do not see anything
[16:07] <ikonia> GiGaHuRtZ: the guys in #python maybe able to help with the specifics of that trace back, as you'd have to understand the functions to a reasonable level to debug that
[16:07] <GiGaHuRtZ> Ok, thank you.
[16:08] <vfw> joshu_: No, you need a startup script in ~/.config/autostart/
[16:08] <k1l14> i also have a framebuffer driver for geforce in the list.
[16:08] <k1l14> must be the kernel im running now, i didn't see any of this before
[16:09] <vfw> joshu_: While it is true that the deamon runs in the background, the teamviewer application's GUI must be run as well.
[16:10] <gaz1310> well its not the TM gui its WIne that needs the X
[16:10] <gaz1310> as its bundled
[16:10] <gaz1310> but yes :)
[16:11] <cadou> hello
[16:11] <k1l14> im so gonna busta tit.... :D
[16:12] <gaz1310> Anyone tried Windows 8.1 fonts in ubuntu? worth the hassle?
[16:13] <xqee> ikonia do i need to install drivers ?
[16:14] <ikonia> xqee: what kernel is currently running
[16:14] <xqee> 3.8.0-19-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 17 18:19:42 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> gaz1310,  if you need them.. but ive no idea why you would 'need' them ;)
[16:14] <ThePendulum> I threw in a 2nd GPU with a 3rd monitor, but all the 3rd monitor shows is the Ubuntu loading screen
[16:14] <ThePendulum> Any ideas?
[16:14] <k1l14> how do i get it to use the driver?
[16:14] <ikonia> xqee: ok, so it is in 3.7 - so it should be already in 3.8
[16:15] <xqee> ikonia and how i can use card now ?
[16:15] <gaz1310> willis heh..well im bored and will try :D
[16:15] <Dr_Willis> gaz1310,  i get the ubuntu fonts and put them on my windows machines. ;)
[16:15] <xqee> ikonia vlc and tvheadend wont fint it
[16:16] <ikonia> xqee: what device file is vlc/tvheadend pointing at ?
[16:16] <xqee> tvheadend didnt found it
[16:16] <xqee> vlc same as ths
[16:16] <gaz1310> uuh
[16:16] <gaz1310> usr/share/fonts will make em avail to the whole systemm right
[16:17] <xqee> ikonia do you want to check on tha team viewer ?
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> !fonts
[16:20] <falkenMaze> anyone know how to untangle this one?  http://bpaste.net/show/DxVE8YTnmAgAyzVQ54MV/
[16:20] <falkenMaze> it chokes on anything pcap.
[16:21] <vfw> falkenMaze: Did you try "apt-get -f install"?
[16:21] <gaz1310> vfw yeah as the pic sais
[16:21] <gaz1310> try synaptic
[16:21] <Dr_Willis> falkenMaze,  try a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     as a wild shot?
[16:21] <falkenMaze> vfw yes
[16:22] <falkenMaze> Dr_Willis i am dist-upgrade'ed
[16:22] <rantic> Hi everyone, I just installed Ubuntu and I'm a bit lost with the interface. How do I add my own applications to the launcher on the left hand side?
[16:22] <vfw> falkenMaze: What OS is it?
[16:22] <Dr_Willis> falkenMaze,  the version # in the error seems odd..
[16:22] <gaz1310> drag n drop
[16:22] <falkenMaze> security-onion on ubuntu
[16:22] <gaz1310> -rantic
[16:22] <rantic> gaz1310, Doesn't seem to work
[16:23] <k1l_> rantic: easiest method is to start the program an then make a rightclick on it and choose "keep in launcher"
[16:23] <zipy> is it possible to run tmx after i launched sth in ssh?
[16:23] <Dr_Willis> rubygem-fpm : Depends: rubygem-json (>= 0) but it is not installable
[16:23] <rantic> gaz1310, Hm it seemed to work with another program .. but not the shortcut to a java application I downloaded.
[16:23] <falkenMaze> whoops, I guess dist-upgrade now fails with same error.
[16:23] <rantic> k1l_, Thanks I'll try that
[16:23] <vfw> falkenMaze: Version number are you on?  Ubutnu 10.04?
[16:24] <gaz1310> java apps behaves like "webapps"?
[16:24] <Dr_Willis> zipy,  you can set tmux where it auto starts up when you login.  you can run it at any time if you wanted. but you dont move apps ran befor that time INTo tmux
[16:25] <ikonia> xqee: sorry, I'm asking what it's looking for - not if it found it or not
[16:25] <gaz1310> if so - the make a shortcut to it and place on launcher
[16:25] <vfw> falkenMaze: What is pcapcat?
[16:25] <zipy> Dr_Willis, ok to late then :D
[16:25] <falkenMaze> Dr_Willis 12.04.2 LTS
[16:25] <falkenMaze> pcap
[16:25] <astr0naut> Hello guys, I have a question.
[16:25] <astr0naut> what does "received a ctcp version from username" mean?
[16:26] <Dr_Willis> astr0naut,  they versioned you..   your client replied some info back
[16:26] <xqee> what is with this firmware ?
[16:26] <astr0naut> Dr_Willis, I run my distro as root, and I use XChat IRC, can they execute some commands on my machine thru ctcp?
[16:26] <astr0naut> or something? is ctcp dangerous?
[16:26] <vfw> falkenMaze: Is the date correct?
[16:27] <falkenMaze> vfw what do you mean?
[16:27] <vfw> date
[16:27] <falkenMaze> date of what?
[16:27] <k1l_> !rootirc | astr0naut
[16:27] <gaz1310> _D
[16:27] <theadmin> astr0naut: Running as root is always a bad idea, but no, CTCP doesn't allow remote command execution. It's still dangerous to run as root though.
[16:27] <gaz1310> root is fun
[16:27] <ikonia> gaz1310: grow up - we are trying to help people here
[16:28] <vfw> falkenMaze: In the terminal, type: date  #Hit enter, see what it says, (see if it is correct).
[16:28] <k1l_> astr0naut: but now they know your client and version and could lookup some security issue.
[16:28] <astr0naut> theadmin, Why is running as root on Ubuntu is bad?
[16:28] <falkenMaze> vfw july 21 2013
[16:28] <astr0naut> How can I know their version and client?
[16:28] <k1l_> astr0naut: if the find a security whole they have root rights
[16:28] <astr0naut> is there a command for it?
[16:28] <theadmin> astr0naut: Because. Giving apps rights they don't even need is always a bad idea.
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> doing anything as root when not absoutly needed is bad..
[16:28] <astr0naut> How can I request client info from other users?
[16:28] <astr0naut> from ctcp?
[16:29] <astr0naut> what's the specific command for this?
[16:29] <theadmin> astr0naut: /version nickname, I think.
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> astr0naut,  see the docs for your irc client perhaps
[16:29] <k1l_> astr0naut: think of: you always run with a loaded and unlocked gun. that is not necessary . just give the apps the rights they need at least
[16:29] <theadmin> astr0naut: sudo exists for a reason
[16:29] <astr0naut> theadmin, how can I request ctcp version and client from users in IRC?
[16:29] <astr0naut> just like they CTCP'ed me?
[16:30] <theadmin> astr0naut: Just said, /version nickname
[16:30] <theadmin> astr0naut: Well, obviously, "nickname" is their nickname
[16:30] <vfw> falkenMaze: udo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:30] <falkenMaze> Dr_Willis actually, I don't know what the 'pcapcat' is. but every program wants it as a dependancy.
[16:30] <xqee> sa
[16:30] <xqee> sa
[16:30] <xqee> sa
[16:30] <FloodBot1> xqee: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:30] <k1l_> astr0naut: but again, running everything as root is not supported in here
[16:30] <vfw> falkenMaze: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:30] <xqee> ikonia http://paste.ubuntu.com/5897722/
[16:31] <bhalash> Seeing the phrase "running everything as root" just made me feel a little sick inside.
[16:31] <ikonia> xqee: I'm sorry, I'm not being clear,
[16:31] <gaz1310> @vfw sudo ntpdate -q time-a.nist.gov
[16:31] <gaz1310> first
[16:31] <rypervenche> astr0naut: There is no reason that you should be running a GUI as root and I doubt anyone will help you with anything if you continue to do so.
[16:31] <ikonia> xqee: your software will look for a device node, eg: /dev/video/video1, or something like that, what device is it looking for
[16:31] <xqee> ikonia see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5897726/
[16:32] <ikonia> xqee: that's a good spot
[16:32] <ikonia> xqee: 16.932948] usb 1-1: dvb_usb_v2: Did not find the firmware file 'dvb-usb-af9035-02.fw'. Please see linux/Documentation/dvb/ for more details on firmware-problems. Status -2
[16:32] <ikonia> [   16.933622] usb 1-1: dvb_usb_v2: 'Asus U3100Mini Plus' error while loading driver (-2)
[16:32] <ikonia> [   16.934004] usb 1-1: dvb_usb_v2: 'Asus U3100Mini Plus' successfully deinitialized and disconnected
[16:32] <ikonia> xqee: did not find firmware, that's the key
[16:33] <falkenMaze> vfw I had already run that before error free, went to update the actual distro and that's when the pcapcat error popped up. upgrade now borks at the same place
[16:33] <xqee> ikonia is this firmware  http://palosaari.fi/linux/v4l-dvb/firmware/af9035/dvb-usb-af9035-02.fw_f71efe295151ba76cac2280680b69f3f_11.5.9.0_5.17.9.1 ?
[16:33] <ikonia> xqee: I do'nt know
[16:33] <ikonia> xqee: it looks possible
[16:34] <xqee> ikonia it is, but where i do need tzo put it
[16:34] <theadmin> Eh, maybe it's best to check the repositories for that first?
[16:34] <ikonia> xqee: depends where the kernel expects it, is there anything in /lib/firmware ?
[16:34] <arc__> some one can plz answer this question http://askubuntu.com/questions/321990/packages-gone-in-upgrade
[16:34] <xqee> yap there are some firmwares
[16:34] <vfw> falkenMaze: Look at /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log and see if there is any clues there.
[16:35] <falkenMaze> vfw ok, good idea!
[16:36] <xqee> ikonia i put firmware there and restarted
[16:36] <vfw> falkenMaze: Other than that, I dono, but you may have some ppa that is causing problems..
[16:36] <xqee> ill see than
[16:38] <Hilikus> i'm trying to kill X but when i do sudo service gdm stop i get
[16:39] <Hilikus> stop: Unknown instance:
[16:39] <Hilikus> any idea how to stop x?
[16:39] <falkenMaze> vfw I am not familiar with ppa  :(
[16:39] <xqee> ikonia http://paste.ubuntu.com/5897746/
[16:39] <k1l> Hilikus: its lightdm now on ubuntu
[16:39] <Hilikus> thank you k1l
[16:39] <xqee> ikonia i need to borrow 2.0 usb pci card and try than :)
[16:39] <ikonia> xqee: certainly looks like it
[16:40] <bhalash> hilikus: service lightdm stop
[16:40] <xqee> ikonia most important is that firmware is working now
[16:40] <gaz1310> later guys
[16:40] <xqee> ikonia ill be back soon, iam going to borrow it
[16:44] <Estrobeda> Hello again, i have had this problem everytime i use linux at all, my laptop batery gets low too fast, i cant find the problem, the drivers are up to date, the computer is Asus k53sm. I think the problem is the performance, in windows i can choose, low power high power etc, i cant do that in ubuntu so i think it use max performance, is it possible to fix this problem? the laptop gets criticaly low around 30-60 min and it is starting 
[16:46] <Out`Of`Control> Hi, any plans to bring back  forums?
[16:46] <k1l> Out`Of`Control: #ubuntuforums is the teamchannel
[16:46] <Out`Of`Control> k1l:  thanks
[16:50] <shaun1990> when did the forums get hacked
[16:51] <k1l> #ubuntuforums is the teamchannel
[16:52] <Penyulap> I tear my hair out, i can't find on google, I unpack an archive into the current directory, but rather than unpack them into the current directory, it unpack everything into a subdirectory with the name of the archive. I can't move that directory contents into the current one, i renamed it and try again, but always the command line says like "mv: `www/w' and `www/w' are the same file"
[16:52] <Penyulap> how to copy files from a subdirectory into the current directory ?
[16:52] <falkenMaze> how do you force uninstall a package? bpaste.net/show/x4Gyk5mFfiDDj2LYOMj5
[16:54] <bhalash> Estrobeda: Your machine is using the Nvidia video card under Linux, and the Linux drivers are awful. They run the card at full speed regardless of anything you are actually doing.
[16:54] <bhalash> Estrobeda: Check out http://bumblebee-project.org/
[16:55] <Ampelbein> falkenMaze: have a look at the --force-help option of dpkg. But usually that shouldn't be needed. What is your exact problem? (That paste is not valid)
[16:55] <Estrobeda> ok thank you for your reply =D i will check it out
[16:56] <GAOFLA> what vulnerability they used to hack into ubuntuforums ?
[16:56] <bhalash> Estrobeda: np sir. It is possible to switch to the integrated Intel card, which will go along way to preserving your battery life, and to just use the Nvidia card on a per-application basis.
[16:56] <Penyulap> I worked it out
[16:56] <k1l1451n> i looked the drivers in synaptic and i see the ones that i need but it wont install em...
[16:56] <k1l> GAOFLA:  #ubuntuforums is the teamchannel
[16:56] <GAOFLA> k1l, thanks
[16:56] <Estrobeda> ok i will do that
[16:57] <falkenMaze> Ampelbein yeah, what the heck is --force-<thing>,<thing> supposted to mean? I tried the package name and that borked.
[16:58] <k1l1451n> could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade
[17:01] <k1l1451n> the following packages have unresolvable dependencies. make sure that all required repositories are added and enabled in the preferences.
[17:02] <k1l1451n> ?
[17:02] <Ampelbein> falkenMaze: Without an error message it's hard to help you. Use paste.ubuntu.com for longer texts.
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> can i print in another color in hplip if the black cartridge is empty?
[17:05] <columb> Nautilus keep crashing (closing&black screening my wallpaper until next nautlius launch) when I try to open Dropbox folder. What's wrong with it? 13.10.
[17:07] <bhalash> columb: Is your wallpaper in your Dropbox folder?
[17:07] <columb> bhalash, nope.
[17:08] <bhalash> columb: I had a similar problem two years ago, and it turned out to be a permissions problem. :/
[17:08] <ThePendulum> Meh
[17:09] <columb> http://pastebin.com/HfJEsQGL
[17:09] <ThePendulum> I installed video drivers for a 2nd GPU, and now Ubuntu won´t become visible anymore
[17:09] <ThePendulum> Any way to remove all Nvidia drivers?
[17:11] <arc__> IF YOU ARE good at ubuntu problens please help me at #ubuntu-uk plz
[17:12] <ThePendulum> ´Good´ is rather subjective
[17:12] <arc__> ok then an expert
[17:12] <arc__> just help please #ubuntu-uk
[17:13] <bhalash> columb: apt-get purge nautilus-dropbox
[17:13] <auronandace> arc__: what's wrong with getting help here?
[17:13] <bhalash> columb: Then apt-get install -f
[17:14] <bhalash> auronandace: Maybe we aren't British enough? :p
[17:14] <sharif> http://ubuntuforums.org not open
[17:15] <bhalash> sharif: We know.
[17:16] <dD> How can I have bot alt+shift and alt+shift+tab as shortcuts? I had it before, in a previous version of gnome, but now I can't.
[17:17] <bhalash> dD: gconf-editor is still in Gnome, right?
[17:18] <dD> bhalash, it is, but i can't configure one with alt + shift and the other with alt+shift + tab, they interfere :/
[17:18] <r0uh> fkejkoeoowonfjehicmk3nhcjkn33hbcy 7hoh&*Yfnih8hUJygdjnH7yhfnjH7hfnn3jh78dyhe
[17:19] <dD> bhalash, (it's actually dconf editor, but yes)
[17:20] <bhalash> dD: Gnome is annoying to configure. You might hit Google for information on where keybinds like alt+tab are stored.
[17:21] <mooperd> how do I install jdk 1.6?
[17:21] <mooperd> is this jdk 6 or 7?
[17:21] <mooperd> I am jolly confused
[17:21] <bhalash> mooperd: apt-get install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-jdk
[17:21] <squaregoldfish> mooperd jdk 1.6 == jdk 6
[17:22] <bhalash> mooperd: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-ubuntu-linux-install-configure-jdk-jre/
[17:22] <mooperd> niice
[17:22] <theadmin> bhalash: Sun's java isn't in the repos for, like, more than a year now?
[17:22] <theadmin> mooperd: Use OpenJDK or download from java.com
[17:22] <dD> bhalash, so, I did find the keybinds.  But if alt + shift is used to change keyboard layout, then I can't use alt + shift + tab for reverse alt tab.  If it's not, then I can use it (all through dconf)
[17:23] <bhalash> theadmin: Shows how much I use Java. :D Don't they have a self-extracting file on the site?
[17:23] <mooperd> is openjdk completely compatable?
[17:23] <rypervenche> mooperd: I've never had any problems with it.
[17:24] <hocin20> how to creat db for metasploit in ubuntu
[17:24] <bhalash> dD: I found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/122748/enabling-native-shortcuts-on-gnome-3
[17:24] <mooperd> where do I find openjdk-6-jdk. I can only see openjdk-7-jdk
[17:25] <theadmin> mooperd: openjdk-6-jdk is in Universe... Should be just there
[17:25] <theadmin> mooperd: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk
[17:26] <columb> bhalash, nautilus-dropbox is not not installed. :(
[17:26] <mooperd> theadmin: thanks man
[17:26] <columb> Error when I try to start nautilus from terminal: http://pastebin.com/HX7Pf4FC
[17:26] <bhalash> columb: Try apt-get install -f
[17:26] <columb> Tried.
[17:27] <mooperd> theadmin: how about the environment?
[17:27] <mooperd> JAVAHOME and stuff
[17:28] <theadmin> mooperd: Eh. Shouldn't have to configure that stuff manually if you use the repos
[17:29] <mooperd> theadmin: hmm, it hasnt :(
[17:29] <theadmin> mooperd: Environment changes usually require to log out and back in
[17:29] <columb> Oh well, fixed it by nautilus -q
[17:29] <theadmin> mooperd: Did you do that?
[17:29] <mooperd> theadmin: yes
[17:29] <bhalash> columb: Hah. Right as I'm reading a thread with that as a solution.
[17:29] <dD> bhalash, Thanks.  That won't work though, because both of them belong to dconfeditor.  See, the problem is that they clash.
[17:29] <columb> Nope, not fixed. At least I was able to open folder with it.
[17:29] <mooperd> theadmin: but as root
[17:30] <mooperd> theadmin: but I guess that shouldnt make a differance
[17:30] <dD> bhalash, basically, if I disable one, the other one works.  It used to work before but not anymore.
[17:32] <joshu_> so I found this that shows how to start a vnc server at the lightdm greeter http://roger.steneteg.org/245/start-vnc-together-with-lightdm/
[17:32] <mijk> hey, how do I mount a img file I created with bximage that has no file system?
[17:32] <bhalash> dD: Gotcha. I'm starting to understand your problem a bit better. You used to have a setup where each keybind had more than one action?
[17:32] <joshu_> this would allow me to connect with a vnc client and see the lightdm login window, right?
[17:32] <bhalash> mijk: mount -o loop /path/to/image /mnt/whatever ?
[17:33] <mijk> bhalash, it wouldn't error out due to lack of fs specified?
[17:34] <bhalash> mijk: Try and report the error
[17:34] <BenjaminRH> Hey people. My laptop screen's black on boot until I put it to sleep and then wake it up again. Any idea why that might be, and how I can fix that?
[17:35] <mijk> mount: you must specify the file system type
[17:37] <dD> bhalash, so basically, Alt+Shift was used to change keyboard language.  But, (if I remember correctly), alt+shift would only change it "on key up".  Then, alt+shift+tab would do reverse alt tab (ie, change windows counterclockwise).  Now, if I have alt+shift enabled to change the keyboard shortcut, I can't use alt+shift+tab to do reverse alt tab, it's like the shift is ignored (probably because the keyboard layout change takes precedence).
[17:37] <Linux_xubuntu_ne> Hi, can someone help me please
[17:38] <ianorlin> !ask
[17:39] <bhalash> mijk: I can't find any good documentation on the file format. Try -t iso9660
[17:40] <bhalash> dD: So alt + shift + up arrow was "change keyboard"?
[17:40] <Linux_xubuntu_ne> ok, how do I get internet explorer 8 on xubuntu
[17:40] <bhalash> Linux_xubuntu_ne: VM?
[17:41] <dnano91> hi, i'm planning to setup a dualboot with ubuntu and win8 on a macbook pro. only problem is, i want to run ubuntu in efi mode and windows in mbr (as it doesn't support efi 1.1). i know that osx uses some kind of protected/hybrid mbr to run windows, but i don't know how to create this kind of mbr on a gpt formatted drive with ubuntu (without osx). can anyone help me with this issue?
[17:41] <Linux_xubuntu_ne> bhalash how is that going to help?
[17:41] <k1l> !wine | Linux_xubuntu_ne
[17:42] <dD> bhalash, alt+shift was change keyboard (without the up arrow)
[17:42] <BenjaminRH> Linux_xubuntu_ne: why do you want ie8 on ubuntu?
[17:42] <BenjaminRH> Linux_xubuntu_ne: if it's for website testing, there are some web apps you can use that will save you the trouble
[17:42] <mijk> "mount -t none" or "mount -t raw" don't work
[17:42] <bhalash> Linux_xubuntu_ne: A Windows VM can run IE8. Also, Wine support seems awful.
[17:43] <Linux_xubuntu_ne> Wine couldn't download ie8 for some reason, and I have no disc to do a VM
[17:43] <Linux_xubuntu_ne> bhalash ^^
[17:43] <bhalash> Linux_xubuntu_ne: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=17187
[17:44] <bhalash> dD: I think you might want to consider alternative shortcuts, if you can't change it in dconf-editor. :/
[17:44] <Linux_xubuntu_ne> bhalash will have a look
[17:45] <bhalash> Linux_xubuntu_ne: I mean, if you really, really need IE8, then a VM is probably the path you're going to have to go down.
[17:45] <Linux_xubuntu_ne> SO I cannot get it then :/
[17:45] <Linux_xubuntu_ne> ok cheers
[17:45] <BenjaminRH> I'm experiencing a very annoying problem. My laptop screen is black on boot until I put it to sleep and then wake it up again. Any idea why that might be, and how I can fix that? This is a completely fresh install of Ubuntu 13.04. The only thing I've done is apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, and reboot
[17:46] <iceroot> Linux_xubuntu_ne: use playonlinux to install ie
[17:46] <iceroot> Linux_xubuntu_ne: but not everything will work (mono, active x and other strange ms stuff)
[17:46] <BenjaminRH> Incidentally, to see the installation screen, I had to run install with nomodeset
[17:46] <Linux_xubuntu_ne> iceroot link please
[17:47] <BenjaminRH> but once I've put it to sleep and then woken it up again, everything works perfectly
[17:47] <iceroot> Linux_xubuntu_ne: sudo apt-get install playonlinux
[17:47] <dD> bhalash, :( I wonder what changed, it worked before. Do you think that there is a way to set one of them to be "on key up"?
[17:47] <iceroot> Linux_xubuntu_ne: then sart it and choose ie for installation
[17:47] <Linux_xubuntu_ne> cheers
[17:47] <iceroot> Linux_xubuntu_ne: winetricks should also be able to install ie8. for wine-support see #winehq
[17:47] <dD> bhalash, or set priorities?
[17:47] <bhalash> dD: Explicitly set the action to alt+shift+up arrow?
[17:48] <Linux_xubuntu_ne> iceroot i tried winetricks and it failed to download it for some unknown reason
[17:49] <iceroot> Linux_xubuntu_ne: #winehq for wine-issues
[17:50] <dD> bhalash, sorry, by "on key up" I mean when someone let's go of a key.
[17:51] <taek>  no
[17:53] <bhalash> dD: AFAIK no.
[17:55] <zipy> does someone know what is the problem on this: 192.168.0.100(rw,async,no_subtree_check,fsid=0)   . /pathtodir does not support NFS export <-- when i start nfs server
[17:56] <PAiDkernelPANiC> the ubuntu forums are down
[17:56] <PAiDkernelPANiC> omg
[17:56] <zipy> ye
[17:56] <zipy> i wanted to google that too :P
[17:56] <drjeats> intense hackage
[17:56] <whoever> zipy: are you mounting an smb share
[17:56] <PAiDkernelPANiC> defacement: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Website_defacement
[17:56] <zipy> no samba running
[17:57] <PAiDkernelPANiC> im curious how site looked while it was hacked
[17:57] <whoever> zipy: so where is this directory you are tring to mount, on a different box ?
[17:58] <zipy> i think its sth about the fsid=0
[17:58] <k1l> PAiDkernelPANiC: #ubuntuforums
[17:58] <dD> bhalash, thanks :/
[17:58] <joshu_> is x11vnc with ssh and reverse vnc a good alternative to teamviwerer?
[17:58] <whoever> zipy: what
[17:58] <PAiDkernelPANiC> ok, thanks
[17:58] <zipy> no its local, that is in my exports config
[17:59] <whoever> zipy: ah, then why are you using an ip if it is local
[17:59] <zipy> cuz thats the clients
[17:59] <zipy> that are allowed to connect
[17:59] <recursion_> anybody here every use LightTable IDE?
[18:00] <whoever> zipy: why don't you try to just export it with out  the allow
[18:00] <whoever> ie export=somepath
[18:01] <whoever> zipy: and curious whey are you tring to export it , what are you tring to achieve
[18:01] <Estrobeda> hello, now i have installed bumblebee on my computer, is the batterysaveing automaticly on and the optirun command makes the nvidia card work or is the optirun command for energy saveing? Or is this totaly wrong place to ask?
[18:01] <zipy> i just want to share that folder via nfs
[18:02] <whoever> zipy: why not samba , it seems like your are doing a tone more work then you need
[18:02] <zipy> this is my /etc/exports: /home/pi/downloads/complete      192.168.0.100(rw,async,no_subtree_check,fsid=0)
[18:02] <whoever> to share a file
[18:02] <zipy> and when i start the nfs server that error occurs
[18:03] <whoever> zipy: so why do you have nosubtree
[18:03] <jasunto> does 13.04 finally support vnc before login?
[18:03] <whoever> jasunto: i don't think so
[18:03] <zipy> cuz when i dont insert that i will get a message that "no_subtree" istn chosen
[18:04] <whoever> zipy: why do you have to share nfs, why not cfs\
[18:04] <jasunto> whoever: thats horrible
[18:04] <leotemp> need assistance installing atheros wifi driver - noob level
[18:04] <chipotle> hi, i'm trying to transfer files from my ubuntu machine to my freenas machine, over ethernet… how do i locate the freenas box, after i've loaded and authenticated via the gui. i want to do it in the CLI for speed and reliability...
[18:05] <zipy> hmm
[18:05] <irgendwer4711>  hi, how to create a bzip2 compressed initrd with make-kpkg?
[18:05] <zipy> i dont know cfs what is it
[18:06] <chipotle> can i do it with cp, or do i have to do scp?
[18:06] <chipotle> please advise...
[18:06] <jasunto> how hard is it to run vnc as a startup service so people can vnc in and log in? why do i have to do backflips and isntall x11vnc?
[18:07] <jasunto> getting rigging with auto login then screensaver lock
[18:07] <whoever> zipy: its samba it allows you to share files/printers, without the neeed to export like you are doing
[18:07] <joshu_> jasunto i'm trying to figure out a remote support solution myselg
[18:07] <joshu_> myself
[18:07] <gordonjcp> jasunto: so you want it to log in automatically and have x11vnc running at startup?
[18:08] <rohff> hi guest149
[18:08] <zipy> hmm i thought its faster with nfs
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[18:08] <FloodBot1> GothPaw: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:08] <jasunto> there are guides out there that have x11vnx start before login, i also had an issue if running headless and made a vga loop back adapter
[18:08] <whoever> jasunto: what are you tring to remote support
[18:08] <jasunto> maybe install the ubuntu version of rdp server
[18:08] <rohff> hi guest149
[18:08] <jasunto> i have a ubuntu machine at home, i like to ssh tunnel then vnc over it
[18:08] <gordonjcp> jasunto: what are you trying to do?
[18:09] <whoever> jasunto: so you just want to remote install an OS
[18:09] <whoever> ?
[18:09] <jasunto> if i do an update and reboot or if it does for power loss, you cant stock because login screen
[18:09] <jasunto> have to login then vnc starts
[18:09] <jasunto> remote into my ubuntu install from outside of home
[18:09] <whoever> jasunto: ssh
[18:09] <joshu_> i want to be able to access an ubuntu install at the lightdm greeter as shown here http://cl.ly/image/0s3j3D2k1T1k. before a user logins in
[18:09] <gordonjcp> jasunto: okay, just use ssh
[18:09] <jasunto> acts as a server also, may need to remote in and start or manage downloads
[18:10] <ThePendulum> Greetings
[18:10] <jasunto> i do use ssh
[18:10] <jasunto> i like to tunnel vnc sometimes
[18:10] <gordonjcp> vnc on a server? o_O
[18:10] <jasunto> its not a Server per say
[18:10] <ThePendulum> I installed Nvidia drivers and now I can no longer boot into Ubuntu. It will simply go to black, without the possibility to get into a tty. Is there any way to remove these drivers from a live CD?\
[18:10] <jasunto> i do some server type stuff with it
[18:10] <gordonjcp> jasunto: "per se"
[18:10] <bitnumus> hi, all my icons descriptions are showing white squares instead of text
[18:10] <bitnumus> and ideas?
[18:10] <gordonjcp> jasunto: not "per say"
[18:11] <gordonjcp> jasunto: okay, so are you trying to run desktop apps over VNC too?
[18:11] <whoever> bitnumus: that is probably because they are not standard characheres
[18:11] <jasunto> yes, some i have to
[18:11] <bitnumus> whoever, its all of them
[18:11] <gordonjcp> jasunto: depending on how fast your network connection is, that might be pretty slow
[18:11] <jasunto> i just like multiple access methods
[18:11] <find-help> hi, im trying to use the "find" command to say find 1expr OR 2expr exec something. The problem is that if the 1 expr is true then the 2nd expression isnt executed.
[18:11] <jasunto> no, i have great internet
[18:11] <rypervenche> gordonjcp: I corrected someone on that the other day too, lol.
[18:11] <whoever> bitnumus: is it english that should be showing up
[18:11] <gordonjcp> rypervenche: it's so annoying
[18:11] <jasunto> i do it already, just have to never log out or reboot or lose power longer than my ups can handle
[18:11] <jasunto> ssh tunnel can do compression
[18:11] <find-help> as stated in the man pages
[18:12] <bitnumus> it may have been since i installed the package - komodo-edit-globalmenu
[18:12] <rypervenche> gordonjcp: *high five* for being grammar Nazis!
[18:12] <bitnumus> whoever, yes, i am talking about every single application
[18:12] <ThePendulum> Anyone? :(
[18:12] <jasunto> 100 down and 10 up internet, runs fine
[18:12] <bitnumus> in the unity menu
[18:12] <gordonjcp> rypervenche: don't much like the term "grammar nazi" but you're right ;-)
[18:12] <find-help> so anyone know how i can say say if 1 expr is true still continue to second expr regardless
[18:12] <whoever> bitnumus: did this just start
[18:12] <bitnumus> whoever, yes
[18:13] <jasunto> very easy with windows and rdp, but id rather not run that crap
[18:13] <jasunto> used a virtual machine of windows for crap like that before
[18:13] <find-help> find . -type f -iname expr1 -o expr2 -exec echo '{}' \;
[18:13] <whoever> BTCOxygen: did you apply any updates before this started
[18:13] <ThePendulum> I guess I should just reinstall Ubuntu :
[18:13] <gordonjcp> rypervenche: I'm very very dyslexic and so I'm really picky about language
[18:13] <gordonjcp> ThePendulum: if you've been screwing around with it for more than half an hour, you would have been quicker reinstalling
[18:13] <bitnumus> whoever, not 100% sure, it may have been after i installed 'komodo-edit-globalmenu' which i think toys with his somehow
[18:14] <ThePendulum> gordonjcp: Eh, not really.
[18:14] <gordonjcp> jasunto: I don't know what windows and rdp is
[18:14] <ThePendulum> gordonjcp: The installation doesn't cover the hours of configuration
[18:14] <rypervenche> gordonjcp: I'm worse than you though. I stare at that blank space at the end of your sentence wondering where the period is... :X
[18:14] <gordonjcp> ThePendulum: what takes hours to configure?
[18:14] <whoever> bitnumus: look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale
[18:14] <gordonjcp> rypervenche: :-p
[18:14] <ThePendulum> gordonjcp: All applications as well as Ubuntu itself
[18:15] <ThePendulum> I'd much rather save it
[18:15] <gordonjcp> ThePendulum: "Ubuntu itself" needs pretty much no configuration
[18:15] <jasunto> remtoe desktop, works all the time regardless of whether a user is logged in, same if you install vnc on windows, runs as service and can always vnc in. i would rather not run windows, blah.
[18:15] <columb> http://i.imgur.com/SlJ1WTm.jpg Hm...
[18:15] <jasunto> remote
[18:15] <gordonjcp> ThePendulum: you might need to bung a wifi key in or something
[18:15] <vale_> I'm trying to install XAMPP but get this error when running the installer "./xampp-linux-x64-1.8.2-0-installer.run: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string
[18:16] <ThePendulum> gordonjcp: Customization, if you like
[18:16] <bitnumus> whoever, everything is as it should be there
[18:16] <vale_> Can anyone help please?
[18:16] <whoever> bitnumus: mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[18:16] <jasunto> vale: missing a quote
[18:16] <gordonjcp> !xampp
[18:16] <whoever> bitnumus: does this only do this in x or does terminal look the same way
[18:16] <vale_> jasunto: I know, I hit enter by accident
[18:16] <gordonjcp> !xampp > vale_
[18:16] <ThePendulum> I assume there is no way to completely remove the Nvidia drivers from a live CD?
[18:17] <ShaneO> good afternoon everyone is there anyone who I could ask a question about zenity or is there a channel dedicated to it?
[18:17] <ShaneO> I am reading the docs but it is vague about what I am trying to do
[18:17] <jasunto> check all quotes in the .run and make sure thye are closes on the ends
[18:17] <bitnumus> whoever sec.
[18:17] <wilee-nilee> ShaneO, State you problems for help.
[18:17] <jasunto> im out of here, going to set ubuntu to auto login and then immediately lock to screensaver.
[18:18] <bitnumus> whoever, http://imgur.com/vjqbx0T
[18:18] <R0SSI> does anyone know the instruction of Workman installation: https://github.com/deekayen/workman + http://www.workmanlayout.com/blog/?
[18:20] <ShaneO> wilee-nilee I am using the method shown here to create a list https://help.gnome.org/users/zenity/stable/list.html.en .I want the items in the list when selected to perform an action like executing a function. I tried using | to execute the function but nothing happens ex. 393823 backup data | function
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> ShaneO, I meant to the channel not me, thats how it works. ;)
[18:20] <ShaneO> * backup data | backup which is a defined function in the script
[18:20] <BenjaminRH> I'm having quite a few issues with my new Toshiba laptop on a fresh install of 13.04. I think it might be caused by the Toshiba ACPI not loading or something. Any ideas?
[18:21] <ShaneO> oh :) I was hoping maybe you knew :)
[18:21] <whoever> bitnumus: does it look like that on the deskop or only in dash
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> ShaneO, Oh you are an optimist. ;)
[18:21] <ShaneO> lol yeah you could say that
[18:22] <rohff> hi guest116
[18:22] <bitnumus> whoever, i dont use 'desktop'
[18:22] <bitnumus> i have no icons there
[18:23] <whoever> bitnumus: are you using gnome ?
[18:23] <bitnumus> 13.04, no
[18:23] <wilee-nilee> R0SSI, If you are registered with freenode you might also ask in ##linux
[18:24] <crazydiamond> Hi. Can anyone suggest way to share WiFi from Ubuntu  to Android? I'm trying to establish AdHoc access point (via NetworkManager), but it seems to be invisible to Android
[18:24] <james> w00t, i did it!!!!
[18:25] <whoever> bitnumus: have you tried apt-get dist-update
[18:25] <k1l14> it still lists the shitty resolutions, but i can xrandr and get a better one. im at 1440x900 now
[18:25] <k1l14> YAY!!!
[18:25] <neumjeren> hello!
[18:25] <whoever> neumjeren: heellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllooooooooooooooooooooooo
[18:25] <falkenMaze> I am really stuck here. I cannot get aroung libpcapcat (no clue what it is, but can't get around it)  http://bpaste.net/show/DxVE8YTnmAgAyzVQ54MV/
[18:26] <k1l14> is it dangerious to be on an old kernel?
[18:26] <neumjeren> In order to disable touchpad while typing I added "syndaemon -i 2 &" line in rc.local but it doesn't work. It works fine when I type in terminal (works after closing to), but not in the script. Anyone knows why?
[18:26] <gordonjcp> k1l14: maybe, maybe not
[18:26] <falkenMaze> k1l14 yup!
[18:26] <k1l14> ;0|
[18:27] <whoever> falkenMaze: well what are you tring to do
[18:27] <falkenMaze> k1l14 they called it EOL because it's dead.
[18:27] <gordonjcp> k1l14: it depends what you're doing and how you're doing it
[18:27] <drjeats> I'm trying to run the liveCD, and it gets to the point where the splash screen clears and you get some lines of text starting with * Starting LightDM Display Manager    [ OK ]
[18:27] <drjeats> however it gets stuck after: * Stopping enable remaining boot-time encrypted block devices   [ OK ]
[18:27] <falkenMaze> k1l14 expect the same performance out of it as any other corpse.
[18:27] <iceroot> k1l14: what do you mean with old kernel? 3.2 instead of 3.11? or 3.2 and not the latest security updates for 3.2? (3.2 is just an example)
[18:27] <joshu_> how do i get l2tp/ipsec to work as a client from network manager?
[18:28] <drjeats> i can futz around in a grub command line. but anyone have any hints as to where I could start looking to find where the problem is?
[18:28] <k1l14> im not expecting alot here, i know its an old card...
[18:28] <whoever> drjeats: well then, try to install it, or try another live disk
[18:28] <zimbo> i'm trying to download torrents from this site http://www.textbooknova.com
[18:28] <k1l14> i think it was 3.4
[18:28] <zimbo> when i click on a link
[18:28] <zimbo> the torrent client doesn't open
[18:28] <zimbo> and it says to choose an application
[18:28] <iceroot> k1l14: there is no ubuntu release with 3.4
[18:28] <k1l14> the newest one was 3.5....
[18:28] <zimbo> but i cannot find transmission in that menu
[18:29] <falkenMaze> k1l14 which kernel?
[18:29] <falkenMaze> k1l14 which release I mean?
[18:29] <drjeats> whoever: almighty. I was worried that an install wouldn't work since the liveCD wouldn't work, but...why not.
[18:29] <whoever> zimbo: /me will assume you doing legal activity
[18:29] <whoever> zimbo: what client
[18:29] <k1l14> i think it was 3.4 i found the steps to get it on askubuntu
[18:29] <zimbo> whoever transmission
[18:30] <drjeats> alrighty*
[18:30] <whoever> drjeats: live cd, everything his rom, to ram, to screen ,  it works bettr off an hd
[18:30] <find-help> find . -type f -iname expr1 -o expr2 -exec echo '{}' \; something like this but for both expr1 + 2
[18:30] <find-help> find . -type f -iname expr1 -o expr2 -exec echo '{}' \; something like this but for both expr1 + 2
[18:30] <k1l14> brb, gonna find the page real quick
[18:30] <find-help> find . -type f -iname expr1 -o expr2 -exec echo '{}' \; something like this but for both expr1 + 2
[18:30] <FloodBot1> find-help: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:31] <iceroot> k1l14: please dont update the kernel like that, use the kernel from the repos and install the security updates or use a backported kernel but dont download deb packages from somewhere else or use ppas for kernels. there is normally no reason to install a newer kernel
[18:31] <whoever> zimbo: then you need to navigate to transmission , when you say open with this application
[18:31] <falkenMaze> k1l14 lsb_release -a
[18:31] <k1l14> http://askubuntu.com/questions/140254/how-to-install-linux-3-4
[18:31] <whoever> zimbo: and it should work, i just don't like transmission
[18:32] <iceroot> k1l14: why you need 3.4?
[18:32] <k1l14> No LSB modules are available.
[18:32] <k1l14> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[18:32] <k1l14> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS
[18:32] <k1l14> Release:	12.04
[18:32] <k1l14> Codename:	precise
[18:32] <FloodBot1> k1l14: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:32] <k1l14> oops
[18:32] <zimbo> whoever /usr/share/transmission and i think it will work now thanks what is a better alternative
[18:32] <iceroot> k1l14: in the ubuntu-repos there is 3.2, 3.5 and 3.8 for ubuntu 12.04 so why using something strange from askubuntu with kernel 3.4?
[18:32] <falkenMaze> k1l14 use bpaste.net or sumptin. don't flood the list!
[18:32] <neumjeren> Hello! In order to disable touchpad while typing I added "syndaemon -i 2 &" line in rc.local but it doesn't work. It works fine when I type in terminal (works after closing to), but not in the script. Anyone knows why?
[18:33] <falkenMaze> k1l14 you are definately not EOL
[18:33] <k1l14> O_O
[18:33] <iceroot> k1l14: why you need a newer kernel was the question
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> neumjeren: does the command need root access?
[18:33] <whoever> zimbo: if your happy with it you can use it
[18:33] <k1l14> i needed that one for the driver package
[18:34] <k1l14> i have a dino video card
[18:34] <iceroot> k1l14: then you should install kernel 3.5 from the ubuntu repos
[18:34] <BenjaminRH> anybody know what will happen if I try to put the 3.10.1 kernel on 13.04?
[18:34] <gordonjcp> neumjeren: use the full path to syndaemon
[18:34] <k1l14> it requires 3.4, it wont run on anything higher
[18:34] <whoever> zimbo:  i just don't think there is enough controle with it
[18:34] <zimbo> whereis the transmission binary?
[18:34] <k1l> BenjaminRH: not supported in here :/
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> benjaminRH: the kernel wont be supported here
[18:34] <BenjaminRH> uh
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> zimbo: run:  which transmission
[18:35] <iceroot> k1l14: we dont support kernels which are not from ubuntu and the kernel you are using will not get security updates
[18:35] <BenjaminRH> Any idea when it will arrive in Ubuntu? Saucy?
[18:35] <falkenMaze> k1l14 you can always enable the module in your kernel
[18:35] <zimbo> which transmission isn't showing anything
[18:35] <whoever> find-help: expr1 ||expr2
[18:35] <k1l> BenjaminRH: the 3.10 is in 13.10
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> benjaminRH: could ask in BenjaminRH
[18:35] <falkenMaze> k1l14 your existing kernel
[18:35] <zimbo> but it is installed
[18:35] <BenjaminRH> k1l: awesome, thanks
[18:35] <whoever> zimbo: what are you asking
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image-generic saucy
[18:36] <BenjaminRH> great
[18:36] <zimbo> whoever ActionParsnip there is no output when i run which transmission
[18:36] <BenjaminRH> is Saucy usable currently?
[18:36] <vers> Hello, i'd appreciate some help with "system is running in low graphic mode" error everytime i boot the ubuntu 13.04. I've been using ubuntu for a week, but all of the sudden i got this error. I am pretty new to linux and spent whole day trying to solve it. I am running this on Lenovo Y580 which has GeForce 660M in optimus mode with intel integrated grapic card (processor i7). First day i managed to run this bumblebee project, yet i believe
[18:36] <vers> that system is using the intel card anyway. Could somebody help me out?
[18:36] <iceroot> !info linux-image-generic-lts-saucy precise
[18:36] <iceroot> BenjaminRH: no
[18:36] <whoever> zimbo: try a different client
[18:36] <whoever> ie deluge
[18:36] <BenjaminRH> alright
[18:36] <puppert> do you guys have any info one forum hack?  have the passwords been cracked and found in the wild?
[18:36] <zimbo> okay i will do that
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> zimbo: which transmission-gtk ,maybe
[18:37] <BenjaminRH> iceroot, k1l, ActionParsnip: thnx
[18:37] <puppert> one/on
[18:37] <iceroot> puppert: only password-hashes are stored
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> puppert, The site tels what is known #ubuntuforums is the chanell you want
[18:37] <zimbo> ActionParsnip yeah that's right
[18:37] <puppert> ah ok
[18:37] <whoever> zimbo: transmission , the more you try to automate stuff the less you find you can do with it
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> puppert: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:37] <k1l> puppert: #ubuntuforums
[18:37] <falkenMaze> k1l14 lspci -k
[18:38] <find-help> whoever: can i not say 1 expr -or 2 expr without having to find ... | find ... | find ....
[18:38] <whoever> zimbo: i don't use transmission , so i wouldn't know
[18:38] <zimbo> whoever i am installing a better client
[18:38] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[18:38] <whoever> findso you want to find any filename that begins with expr  correc?
[18:39] <whoever> zimbo: good, ...
[18:39] <zimbo> oh hell yeah, i am downloading some pirated text books! studying time mannnn wooooooo!
[18:39] <whoever> find-help you want to find any filename that begins with expr  correc?
[18:39] <falkenMaze> k1l14 lspci -k |curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[18:40] <iceroot> zimbo: stop that here, that is not supported
[18:41] <checoimg> crazydiamond : maybe this could work : http://thebeautifullmind.com/2012/09/19/sharing-internet-over-wifi-between-ubuntu-and-android/
[18:41] <neumjeren> gordonjcp: Thanks!
[18:42] <zimbo> iceroot, yes sir, sorry sir
[18:42] <columb> Is it possible to downgrade system from daily 13.10 to 13.04?
[18:42] <_raven> feed2imap problem: it always uploads EVERYTHING again, not only new items. help please
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[18:43] <Kerim> What's with all those quits all of a sudden?
[18:43] <checoimg> Kerim : I dunno
[18:43] <zimbo> too many rules
[18:43] <iceroot> columb: no
[18:44] <BenjaminRH> anybody know how I enable the Toshiba ACPI option in the kernel?
[18:44] <k1l> !netsplit | kerim
[18:44] <zimbo> oO hmmm netsplit eh, interesting
[18:44] <Kerim> k1l: ubottu: Oh wow, thanks. I'm kind of an IRC newb
[18:46] <Fuzzles> i wish itunes came to linux means i can stop using windows, till that happens i will use windows as my os
[18:46] <kelly> guys i need chat clients that allow me to send and receive pictures between hotmail accounts ? i tried pidgin , friend of mine send many pictures to me but here in pidgin i can't see anything receive to me ?
[18:46] <Kerim> split riding lol, so smart and so douchy
[18:46] <reisio> Fuzzles: heh
[18:46] <taek> I wish itunes would just disappear.
[18:46] <iceroot> Fuzzles: we all hope that something like itunes will never reach GNU/Linux. we hope that the apple-users will stop supporting such evil companies/software
[18:46] <reisio> Fuzzles: the only thing keeping you using iTunes is your purchases of inferior hardware
[18:47] <checoimg> Fuzzles : what do you use Itunes for ?
[18:47] <Fuzzles> checoimg, my phone
[18:47] <iceroot> !iphone | Fuzzles
[18:47] <sircut> Machine updates says 12.04 . I get  mixed up with the names . That must be precise. Do you think it is gong to do the vid any good.
[18:48] <reisio> there are plenty of portable audio players and mobile phones that don't needlessly lock you into using proprietary binary closed source win32 or Mac OS awful software
[18:48] <iceroot> reisio: +1
[18:48] <Fuzzles> iceroot, i know but if i needed to restore or anything im stuck
[18:48] <checoimg> Fuzzles : Oh I see, I have to buy specific Phones to have support with Ubuntu
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> crazydiamond: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[18:48] <iceroot> Fuzzles: yes you are stuck because you have a jail
[18:48] <reisio> including most iPods, if you're willing to let them be reformatted
[18:48] <yeats> Fuzzles: you can also dual boot or keep windows in a VM (VirtualBox has USB 2.0 support in its proprietary extension pack)
[18:48] <iceroot> Fuzzles: it was your choice to use a jail
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> crazydiamond: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[18:48] <reisio> a jail you bought, on purpose
[18:48] <reisio> yes indeed
[18:49] <iceroot> Fuzzles: you should only use Free Software (free as in free speech), if you dont do that, you are forced to use specific software so that your product is working
[18:50] <iceroot> Fuzzles: specially after the PRISM/NSA stuff people should look at Freedom and dont support such products which take away your freedom
[18:50] <psilo> you're forced to use specific software to achieve a given purpose anyway.
[18:50] <Fuzzles> guys i didnt come here to get beef of everyone i just asked a question
[18:50] <checoimg> Yeah and why don't Linux users make a company to pay for included drivers like MS does ?
[18:50] <yeats> Fuzzles: you can use Windows alongside ubuntu
[18:51] <taek> Microsoft doesn't pay anyone
[18:51] <reisio> because we already have more drivers and better drivers without paying for anything :)
[18:51] <checoimg> HA
[18:51] <Fuzzles> iceroot, wasnt my choice its my work phone
[18:51] <checoimg> And they ask you to update it  ?
[18:52] <whoever> checoimg: because we all play nice with each other
[18:52] <iceroot> Fuzzles: every person which is still supporting Apple should be warned and that is what we are doing because we belive in Freedom and not such silly jails for young people to impress girls/to be cool
[18:52] <yeats> Fuzzles: just ignore them - do you have a tech support question about getting your iphone working with Ubuntu?
[18:52] <whoever>  checoimg and if we did that we would have to charge those like yourself just to be in the same room as us
[18:53] <whoever> checoimg: not to mention that would defeat GNU
[18:53] <Fuzzles> yeats, ye my question is what software can i use to put and take music of of an iphone, and is there any software that can be used to restore it?
[18:53] <reisio> Fuzzles: using bluetooth would be the simplest
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> fuzzles: banshee or rhythmbox
[18:54] <whoever> Fuzzles: there are a few you can use
[18:54] <checoimg> I think Banshee is better
[18:54] <iceroot> !iphone
[18:54] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_iPod_managers#iPhone_.26_iPod_Touch_compatibility
[18:54] <_raven> feed2imap problem: it always uploads EVERYTHING again, not only new items. help please
[18:55] <whoever> Fuzzles: gtkpod
[18:55] <checoimg> Rhythmbox makes a full synchronization of songs so in case your music collection is more than the Iphone can have then you will have problems
[18:55] <whoever> Fuzzles: sudo apt-get install gtkpod
[18:55] <Fuzzles> whoever,  it doesnt allow me to restore does it?
[18:55] <yeats> Fuzzles: you're probably going to need iTunes to some degree, which probably means you'll need windows somewhere - like I suggested, you can dual boot or run Windows in a VM
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> !info gtkpod
[18:55] <checoimg> whoever : Why would that defeat GNU ?
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> fuzzles: what does "restore it" mean?
[18:56]  * yeats was stuck with a work iPhone for a while and never found a full itunes replacement :-/
[18:56] <vers> Hi there, could any1 assist me with "system is running in low graphics mode' error? i tried several solutions found on the net, but with no luck at all
[18:56] <whoever> Fuzzles: that is the limitation of the gnu ipodd tools if you simply must be able to restore then your stuck with itunes
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> yeats:  its proprietary. until apple open up you will be forever stuck
[18:57] <yeats> ActionParsnip: well now I'm using Android devices and no longer need anything like that ;-)
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> vers: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[18:57] <Fuzzles> whoever, ok thanks ill just have to hope as ubuntu grows then a linux version is made
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> yeats: been on android since the G1 :-)
[18:57] <vers> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[18:57] <iceroot> Fuzzles: as we said, we hope never to see something like that on our system
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> fuzzles: that is entirely down to apple
[18:57] <hyprvx> can anyone offer support for installing Opera?
[18:58] <yeats> Fuzzles: it's never going to happen ;-)
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> fuzzles: so you can guess how likely that is
[18:58] <auronandace> hyprvx: opera can, we can't
[18:58] <iceroot> !info opera
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> vers: and what video chip do you use
[18:58] <yeats> hyprvx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[18:58] <iceroot> hyprvx: imo opera is in the partner repo
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> i thought it was only in the opera repo.,
[18:59] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: on 8.04 it was in the partner-repo :)
[18:59] <vers> ActionParsnip: I have Nvidia GeForce 660M in my laptop with this Optimus technology and Intel Graphics card
[18:59] <yeats> I don't think opera's been in the repos for years now
[18:59] <Fuzzles> ActionParsnip, that's true i guess, another option is to have ubuntu on my main hd and find a old hard drive and install windows on that just for itunes
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> vers: did you install bumblebee?
[19:00] <Hilikus> is it still the case that for nvidia drivers we have the option of the opensource driver vs the binary driver by nvidia directly and that to install the binary driver you need download the sh script from nvidia?
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free #The offical source of Opera
[19:00] <yeats> Fuzzles: that's what I would do
[19:00] <iceroot> Hilikus: no you can also get the nonfree driver directly from ubuntu
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> fuzzles: why? you can use virtualbox and run it when you want to mess with your device
[19:00] <Hilikus> iceroot: what's the package?
[19:00] <auronandace> Hilikus: we only support what is in our repos, the nvidia driver is in the repos but it may be older than the one from their site
[19:01] <whoever> chriswk: beacause GNU is to openly and freely share, and if we are charging, then we are not freely sharing, and yes we could still charge but we would have to give the source code, just doesn't make since to always charge since you have to pay people to man phones and you have no idea how many people won't read and wand to pay you to solve their problem , since unlike winblows there is 100's of posible os configs , tha would just add to 
[19:01] <Fuzzles> ActionParsnip, i tried that and virtualbox is funny when it comes to using the usb kept messing around
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> hilikus: just install nvidia-current unless you use the optimus mess
[19:01] <vers> ActionParsnip: Yes i did. I followed some tutorials and seems to be working (however i doubt any of my application uses this geforce card). It's been working for a week and today it stopped when i wanted to use compiz
[19:01] <iceroot> Hilikus: dont know but jockey?? should popup at first start and say there are nonfree drivers and there you can select the driver
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> fuzzles: tried the non OSE
[19:01] <whoever> so it does not really deafeat it just doesn't make good buisness since to do it
[19:01] <iceroot> vbox non ose + windows + itunes just to use a phone.....
[19:02] <Fuzzles> yeats, ye will have to wait for a while as my 500gb has windows and my 80gb as ubuntu so will have to wait to switch them over
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> vers: this is all i know. Optimus is a cheap havk imho
[19:02] <checoimg> whoever : Ok
[19:02] <Hilikus> ok, now, i didn't know this and installed the nvidia drivers directly from the nvidia script and now my ubuntu doesn't boot. after the bootup splashscreen it hands on a black screen
[19:02] <taek> iceroot: get rid of your iphone
[19:02] <Hilikus> how can i fix this??
[19:02] <iceroot> taek: reread the conversation
[19:02] <drjeats> hmm. a couple of guides recommend just using rEFInd to boot ubuntu's kernel directly, without GRUB. is that good advice or no? Not sure how to *not* install grub from the installer
[19:02] <BenjaminRH> Hilikus: I've just spent the last couple of days messing with that ;)
[19:02] <_raven> feed2imap problem: it always uploads EVERYTHING again, not only new items. help please
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> hilikus: tried: sudo nvida-xconfig
[19:03] <Fuzzles> iceroot, i know but will have to do or have on another hard drive incase its needed anytime in the future
[19:03] <taek> iceroot: you use itunes - (iphone) thusly you have to use a virtual machine to take care of it - get rid of iphone and problem solved. :D
[19:03] <drjeats> (on a macbookpro3,1)
[19:03] <vers> ActionParsnip: ok thanks anyway
[19:03] <Hilikus> actionParsnip, doesn't that just create a new xorg.conf file?
[19:03] <auronandace> taek: if you followed the conversation you will find iceroot isn't the one using itunes
[19:04] <iceroot> taek: rereread it and try to understand it
[19:04] <Fuzzles> taek, i am problem is im on a contract so have to wait till its over
[19:04] <taek> Oh my bad! juggling 2 irssi clients
[19:04] <taek> :D
[19:05] <iceroot> taek: there are a few things i would never do and one of them is use apple products.
[19:05] <_raven> feed2imap problem: it always uploads EVERYTHING again, not only new items. help please
[19:05] <iceroot> !repeat | _raven
[19:05] <taek> iceroot: YaY! My kind of person!
[19:06] <iceroot> except one apple product we are all using :( cups
[19:06] <taek> iceroot: I don't use cups.
[19:06] <taek> No printers here!.
[19:06] <iceroot> taek: )
[19:06] <whoever> ironhalik: are you sure they ditn't steal that from xeorx too
[19:07] <checoimg> HA!
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> how can i print a pdf form into color if black cardridge is out?
[19:07] <taek> I don't like when Apple Sees You Pees (cups)
[19:07] <checoimg> Has anyone had problems printing from Libre Office ?
[19:07] <checoimg> I have to export to PDF and then print
[19:07] <iceroot> !anyone | checoimg
[19:08] <whoever> iceroot: are you sure they ditn't steal that from xeorx too
[19:08] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, all colours together makes black AFAIK
[19:09] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, else hop on your bike and you can print here, if you need to.
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> Oerheks: :p
[19:10] <whoever> OerHeks: it actually the absence of all colors , and the color we see is the color that is lacking
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> Oerheks: my black and colour cartridges are seperate from hp, just cleaned out the cartridges heads
[19:11] <Dako300> How do you disable extensions in xorg
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> Oerheks: it printed colour green without issue, so i think black is out and wanted to print the whole pdf in green
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> but not sure howto
[19:11] <checoimg> Before that I have problems sending print jobs to the printer Ubuntu detects it but can't print. When checking printing jobs I see the question is the printer disconnected ? What can i do ?
[19:11] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, best next thing is purple, or brown
[19:12] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, only if you HP does not halt on an empty black cartridge
[19:13] <Nothing_Much> What's the workaround to rip CD audio?
[19:13] <Nothing_Much> Rhythmbox has this bug which I can't see the workaround because the forums are down.
[19:14] <checoimg> Nothing_Much : Workaround for what ?
[19:14] <Nothing_Much> Ripping CDs with Rhythmbox
[19:14] <checoimg> Is it stalling while normalizing tracks ?
[19:15] <Nothing_Much> It has a popup that says it needs the Vorbis Encoder
[19:15] <checoimg> Is it necessary that you Rip with Rhythmbox ?
[19:15] <Nothing_Much> I can't find any alternatives
[19:15] <checoimg> I like Asunder for that
[19:15] <checoimg> It can Rip FLAC format
[19:15] <OerHeks> Nothing_Much, you need the lame codec AFAIK = vobis enc
[19:16] <reisio> if you want a good rip, you'll want rubyripper
[19:16] <reisio> and flac, not vorbis :)
[19:16] <checoimg> FLAC recommended
[19:16] <reisio> take that $~a!
[19:17] <checoimg> Can you set compression to 8 with rubyripper ?
[19:17] <checoimg> forget it I'll just download it and see
[19:18] <checoimg> reision : Can you please point download instructions for rubyripper  ?
[19:18] <checoimg> reisio : Can you please point download instructions for rubyripper  ?
[19:19] <reisio> checoimg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping#RubyRipper
[19:20] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[19:20] <Genscher> hey :) is there a way to see what clients are conntected to a ubuntu dhcp server?
[19:21] <iceroot> Genscher: they are not connected, they just ask for an ip and then there is no connection anymore
[19:21] <Genscher> iceroot, is there a way to see what up adresses has been assigned?
[19:21] <Genscher> *have
[19:22] <iceroot> Genscher: grep -i ACK /var/log/syslog
[19:22] <psilo> Genscher: look at /var/lib/dhcp/dhcpd.leases
[19:22] <yeats> Genscher: /var/lib/dhcp/dhcpd.leases
[19:22] <psilo> ha
[19:22] <iceroot> Genscher: its somehting like DHCACK or so
[19:22] <yeats> psilo: :-)
[19:23] <BenjaminRH> anybody know of an up-to-date nodejs ppa?
[19:23] <checoimg> reisio : Thank you!
[19:24] <yeats> BenjaminRH: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7214474/how-to-keep-up-with-the-latest-versions-of-nodejs-in-ubuntu-ppa-compiling
[19:24] <BenjaminRH> yeats: awesome. tyvm
[19:24] <Genscher> thank you! grep -i /var/log/syslog reveiled everything ^^
[19:24] <Elvano> When my gf tried to select the Windows option in the grub of my netbook it all of a sudden gave the error "no such partition \n  grub resque>" and it still does eversince. when I start gparted from my liveCD it shows me unallocated space there were my linux distro should be...
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> Elvano, We need some history leading to this.
[19:27] <checoimg> reisio : W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/aheck/ppa/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[19:28] <rudolf_> hi all
[19:28] <checoimg> Hi
[19:28] <rudolf_> Do i need a firewall or an antivirus for my ubuntu?
[19:28] <Elvano> That's just it, wilee-nilee. She selected the 'Windows 7' option and ... well that's all there is to it...
[19:29] <iceroot> rudolf_: no
[19:29] <iceroot> !virus | rudolf_
[19:29] <Elvano> At first I just thought Windows had messed with the boot record, but that doesn't explain the unallocated space, does it?
[19:30] <rudolf_> On my windows, norton is continuously giving alerts that someone is attacking.
[19:30] <BenjaminRH> Elvano: I had a problem like that recently. it had to do with UEFI and secure boot
[19:30] <Elvano> Norton is a Virus itself, rudolf_  <.<
[19:30] <rudolf_> :|
[19:30] <BenjaminRH> ^^
[19:31] <Elvano> Any way to fix this, BenjaminRH ?
[19:31] <rudolf_> ok so I can live a worry free life with ubuntu installed? :)
[19:31] <blibr> hello. i need help. i was starting a gnome session. i then logged out and now when i try to start a unity session all i see is the background. no dash, no icons. no shortcuts work. how to fix this?
[19:31] <BenjaminRH> rudolf_: certainly not ;)
[19:31] <BenjaminRH> Elvano: if your machine has it in the BIOS, is it disabled?
[19:32] <Elvano> If you would, this channel 'd be dead, rudolf_  =p
[19:32] <yeats> Elvano: what does 'sudo fdisk -l' show?
[19:32] <blibr> using ubuntu 12.04
[19:32] <rudolf_> I mean I dont need to worry about intrusion attacks and all? elvano, BenjaminRH
[19:33] <BenjaminRH> rudolf_: you still have to worry about them
[19:33] <Elvano> it only shows my USB key, yeats
[19:33] <rudolf_> BenjaminRH: Can I do something for that?
[19:33] <Elvano> the best way to secure yourself is knowing what you're doing, rudolf_
[19:33] <yeats> Elvano: you've got the key plugged into your netbook, yes?
[19:33] <BenjaminRH> rudolf_: linux is easily vulnerable. It's just that most of the viruses out there you're likely to pick up are targeted at Windows, so you'll often be safe
[19:33]  * taek goes for smoke
[19:34] <BenjaminRH> rudolf_: Try using a firewall, and perhaps something like chrootkit
[19:34] <iceroot> BenjaminRH: it is not easily vulnerable. its the most used system in the world (smartphones, routers, server, embedded systems)
[19:34] <Elvano> It's the key I'm running the LiveCD from, yeats
[19:34] <BenjaminRH> iceroot: And in the hands of a pentester, easily vulnerable
[19:34] <rudolf_> Elvano, BenjaminRH ok thanks...I just asked this due to norton's stupid notifications.
[19:34] <Hilikus> i just recovered from a problem with my video drivers. now my desktop logs in and i can see my desktop icons, however, there's no unity or window borders, they are all borderless. any idea how to fix this?
[19:34] <yeats> rudolf_: older article, but still relevant: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/tutorials/l-harden-desktop/
[19:35] <axisys> how to create or remove a file based on my IP? I want to add file when I am on home network 192.168 and remove it when I am not on 192.168 network
[19:35] <BenjaminRH> iceroot: the fact that it is the most used system in the world has nothing to do with how vulnerable it is. There are a lot of holes, even if they don't exist in a fresh installation, that users open up
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> Elvano, Hardly an answer that will get any help, no identification of the MS, no when it was installed, did it work previously, did you change anything, just to mention a few.
[19:35] <iceroot> BenjaminRH: could you show me one root exploit?
[19:35] <axisys> like to automate it
[19:36] <rudolf_> k yeats
[19:36] <yeats> Elvano: I would expect 'sudo fdisk -l' to show your hard disk as well
[19:36] <BenjaminRH> iceroot: http://www.exploit-db.com/platform/?p=linux, or
[19:36] <BenjaminRH> iceroot: http://blog.sucuri.net/2013/05/from-a-site-compromise-to-full-root-access-local-root-exploits-part-ii.html
[19:36] <Elvano> I haven't changed a thing in months, except for the regular updates, I guess, wilee-nilee
[19:36] <BenjaminRH> iceroot: just as a quick example that a quick google turned up
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> Elvano, This a uefi setup msdos, you have any backups?
[19:36] <iceroot> BenjaminRH: the three examples there are all patched already
[19:37] <iceroot> BenjaminRH: cve.org
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> or msdos*
[19:37] <BenjaminRH> iceroot: yes, currently they are. But they were there recently. I'm sure there are more
[19:37] <syntroPi> gnome 3 is such a regression, everytime i want to change anything it gets me steaming mad, such a huge waste of my time
[19:37] <zach2825> hello
[19:37] <yeats> syntroPi: probably worth trying XFCE then
[19:37] <iceroot> BenjaminRH: i asked for a root exploit, you cant name one which is working so please dont tell linux is easily attackable
[19:38] <zach2825> does anyone here know of any good xbmc plugins for streaming?
[19:38] <BenjaminRH> iceroot: I'm not even going to get into this. But let me just say that people who think they're completely secure because they're using Linux are naive
[19:38] <iceroot> zach2825: #xbmc
[19:38] <iceroot> BenjaminRH: noone said there is 100% security but someone said here its EASILY attackable
[19:39] <iceroot> BenjaminRH: and because this is a official support channel, specially for new users, we dont like it when someone is telling them something like that which is not true
[19:39] <syntroPi> either its broken or has really stupid interface, needs ugly quirks and so on. never ending nightmare
[19:40] <BenjaminRH> iceroot: Then I apologize about bringing it up in here, and exaggerating the issue.
[19:42] <napsc> iceroot: how do u know if the exploit isn't publicly discovered yet.
[19:42] <checoimg> How can I set ClamAV to auto check all image files stored on my system ?
[19:43] <axisys> iwlist wlan0 scanning | grep myssid works..
[19:43] <Nachtschatten> wilee-nilee, yeats Apperently fdisk does show my HDD. I just wasn't patient enough to wait for my terminal to scroll up
[19:43] <checoimg> Ok I just found Fireclam
[19:44] <iceroot> napsc: what about "there is no 100% security but saying its EASILY attackable" was not clear? :)
[19:44] <yeats> Nachtschatten: (assuming you're the same person as "Elvano" before), so do you see your windows partition there?
[19:46] <napsc> iceroot: your definition of easily, that's waht
[19:46] <redey3> hello i need to backup my ubuntu installation and run it on my vmware workstation
[19:46] <BenjaminRH> iceroot: of course, you don't need a root exploit to do damage. And there are many holes which users open accidentally through various programs. And obviously a lot of targets won't be updated with the latest patches
[19:46] <iceroot> napsc: dont ask me, i didnt say easily
[19:47] <iceroot> BenjaminRH: of course there are many holes, specially java, flash, skype and other stuff like that but we talked about linux and linux is a kernel
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> iceroot, http://ubuntuforums.org/announce.html as evidence of a possible root exploit, however I know it is exstremely rare and needs admin access
[19:47] <ophuk> I have passwordless authentication set up for ssh between two computers. Recently I had to create a new key and I added my public key to the remote computers authorized_keys file. Whenever I ssh into the remote computer it asks me for my password. Did I miss a step?
[19:48] <iceroot> wilee-nilee: root-exploit with admin-access? :)
[19:48] <BenjaminRH> iceroot: Then I was unclear originally. By "Linux", I meant the standard user's machine running Linux. As it applied to the guy asking at the time
[19:48] <Shed-34046> help
[19:48] <jrib> ophuk: check "ssh -vvv ..." output client-side and server logs
[19:48] <iceroot> BenjaminRH: so GNU/Linux, yes of course there are security issues
[19:48] <BenjaminRH> iceroot: and saying "Linux" is secure, if you don't take into account anything else that will necessarily be involved, is a rather sneaky avoidance of the actual issue
[19:49] <rudolf_> How do I know if my ip has been assigned via DHCP?
[19:49] <ophuk> jrib: one sec
[19:49] <Shed-34046> iceroot excuse me did you see my question?
[19:49] <iceroot> BenjaminRH: i just say that EASILY is wrong in this place
[19:49] <taek> rudolf_: ifconfig
[19:49] <w_a> is it posible to route trafick/ports to an diferent gateway (tun0) i have transmission-deamond and whant it to use a vpn gateway. I can only get it to work if i set the tun0 as defult gateway for the pc and that i dont whant.
[19:50] <BenjaminRH> iceroot: I concede that point to you. For which I apologize.
[19:50] <iceroot> BenjaminRH: even on freebsd there are security issues
[19:50] <rudolf_> taek, it is showing something
[19:50] <iceroot> BenjaminRH: and because users normally install java, skype and flash, of course there are much more security issues
[19:51] <BenjaminRH> A more correct statement would be that you are generally much more secure than the average Windows or even Mac user, and the vast majority of viruses out there will not affect you running Ubuntu.
[19:51] <iceroot> BenjaminRH: +1
[19:51] <Nachtschatten> Ow, sorry, didn't see myself get disconnected there. Yes I'm the same person, yeats . I do see my windows partition (and an error for my linux partition: Partition4 does not start on physical sector boundry.)
[19:52] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[19:52] <ophuk> jrib: Hmm, forgot about checking -vvv, looks like it's trying to use the wrong key. I'll see if I can fix it from there. thanks!
[19:52] <rudolf_> I cant understand what ifconfig is telling :|
[19:52] <redey3> i wanna make a p2v version of my ubuntu can someone help me
[19:54] <yeats> rudolf_: look for the line that starts with 'inet addr:'
[19:55] <rudolf_> yeats, ok...i got it...there is nothing like DHCP there.
[19:56] <Nachtschatten> rudolf_ the fact you don't know how to use ifconfig tells me your computer is using DHCP =p
[19:57] <yeats> rudolf_: if there's an address there, dhcp assigned it
[19:57] <rudolf_> yeats, yeah there is an address there.
[19:57] <Hilikus> unity won't start. how can i check what is wrong?
[19:58] <_raven> feed2imap problem: it always uploads EVERYTHING again, not only new items. help please
[19:58] <axisys> how does eth0 get a dhcp ip? I do not see it in interfaces file
[19:58] <axisys> when I am at work I get dhcp ip on eth0
[19:59] <tij_> i just installed ubuntu 13.04 on windows 8, but i cannot connect to wifi - checking software and updates, there are NO proprietary drives to use... can someone help?
[19:59] <axisys> is it doing some udev trick?
[19:59] <Nachtschatten> Netbook battery is dead. Fixing it will be for another moment, I guess
[19:59] <yeats> axisys: by default, eth0 should be configured for dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces
[20:00] <Dako300> I recently installed a new X1600 GPU alongside my Riva TNT2 which I need the TNT2 to boot the computer. If I modprobe vesafb and nouveau, I can get a terminal on the X1600 card but I cannot boot into X with startx. Any help would be nice. The Xorg log pastebin is here: http://pastebin.com/RdrcahZF
[20:00] <Dako300> I meant to say blacklist
[20:00] <axisys> yeats: its not in my interfaces file..
[20:00] <yeats> axisys: oh wait - you're right - mine doesn't have that either
[20:00] <yeats> hmm
[20:00] <taek> rudolf_: http://imgur.com/tAYyh4T
[20:00] <axisys> I think networkmanager does some trick to detect and then activate ?
[20:01] <axisys> when I am home I only use wlan0, so cannot test
[20:01] <taek> my gimp skillz are not as good as my photoshop skillz, but there you have it
[20:01] <axisys> yeats: what do you get with ifup eth0 ?
[20:02] <here_> hi all is there a way to disable a user's password similar to 'adduser --disabled-password' for an *existing* user and without modifying /etc/ssh/sshd_config ?
[20:03] <Pendrag0n> useradd asks many questions about a user, address, phone, office etc.  Now that users were added, how do I see any of that information for a specified user?
[20:03] <Pendrag0n> wow, 2 huge network splits in a row.
[20:03] <Pendrag0n>  useradd asks many questions about a user, address, phone, office etc.  Now that users were added, how do I see any of that information for a specified user? (only asked again in case the network split sent my message too far up for people to see it)
[20:04] <axisys> here: passwd -l user
[20:04] <psilo> Pendrag0n: these are known as the GECOS information and it's in /etc/passwd
[20:04] <here> Pendrag0n: /etc/passwd ?
[20:05] <napsc> Pendrag0n: cat /etc/passwd
[20:06] <joshu_> is it possible to configure the mobile broadband connection from lightdm http://cl.ly/image/0l1O3I2J173l
[20:06] <_raven> feed2imap problem: it always uploads EVERYTHING again, not only new items. help please
[20:06] <here> axisys: perfect thanks
[20:07] <taek> axisys: you fail my system!
[20:07] <taek> now I can't sudo!
[20:08] <tij_> sorry for reposting this, but no one answered --> i just installed ubuntu 13.04 on windows 8, but i cannot connect to wifi - checking software and updates, there are NO proprietary drives to use... can someone help?
[20:08] <falkenMaze> taek give root a password then su root
[20:09] <auronandace> !noroot | falkenMaze
[20:11] <OerHeks> The first account created after install has 'root'priv. that is the Ubuntu way.
[20:13] <zachrab> is this the best channel for unix/bash shell related questions?
[20:14] <k1l> zachrab: this is the ubuntu channel. for bash ask in #bash
[20:14] <zachrab> k1l: got cool thx
[20:15] <pico_> what other components are needed to run snort?
[20:16] <goddard> where is my sftp mounts if looking from the command line?
[20:17] <goddard> where the floodbots hacked as well?
[20:17] <k1l> goddard: no, FloodBots are fine
[20:17] <goddard> where is my sftp mounts if looking from the command line?
[20:18] <joshu_> why are most things greyed out in network manager?
[20:18] <Jordan_U> goddard: Mounted via Nautilus?
[20:18] <here> axisys: as taek says, tips on disabled passwd playing nicely with sudo ?
[20:18] <goddard> Jordan_U: yes
[20:18] <Jordan_U> goddard: ~/.gvfs/
[20:19] <here> perhaps /etc/sudoers : <name> ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[20:22] <don_jaime> anyone in here good at broken boot advice? :)
[20:22] <reisio> no, but some people here are
[20:22] <Pricey> don_jaime: What do you see?
[20:23] <dshap> hey all, i just created an EC2 instance with the official Ubuntu 13.04 AMI and i'm trying to SSH onto it but it's timing out. i'm running "ssh -i ~/.ssh/my_key.pem ubuntu@the_host_name.com"   is there something i may have forgotten to do?
[20:23] <don_jaime> background: boot partition filled up, i found a proper looking way to remove old kernels, then tried various combos of grub reinstallation and the grub update scripts (that's probably where i went wrong)
[20:24] <here> dshap: modify security group to whitelist your IP
[20:24] <don_jaime> now grub loads, finds my kernels just fine, but the kernels aren't seeing my lvm root partition, and when i make an initrd using the rescue cd, i'm getting dropped into busybox
[20:25] <dshap> here: by default all IPs are blocked?
[20:25] <dshap> here: i'm using the default security group
[20:26] <dshap> here: guess ill do some more digging re: security groups. thank you!
[20:26] <here> dshap: yep. been there ;p.
[20:26] <dshap> ahh
[20:26] <don_jaime> i think ultimately i just want to be pointed in the right direction to read up on what boot setup the installer gives me when doing root over lvm.  like "grub2, and the mkinit config should be hooked to do xyz" or whatever. that was a nice setup til i borked it.
[20:26] <here> dshap: i think port 80 may be open, not much else.
[20:27] <don_jaime> and all the docs i'm coming across just focus on how to reinstall grub or how to make an initrd, but i haven't seen anything that's talking about that initial setup that was "just working" :)
[20:28] <dshap> here: great, that was definitely the issue. thanks a ton
[20:29] <don_jaime> Pricey: sorry, i should've directed those responses at ya
[20:29] <here> dshap: np enjoy
[20:30] <Nicolas_Leonidas> Hey how can I make this go away each time I'm sshing? Enter passphrase for key '/home/nicolas/.ssh/id_rsa'
[20:33] <don_jaime> Nicolas_Leonidas: opt 1 is replace it with its decrypted self (less secure), opt 2 is run ssh-agent so you only have to type that the first use and then it stays in memory decrypted
[20:34] <Kerim> Nicolas_Leonidas: http://www.linuxproblem.org/art_9.html , http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/11/3-steps-to-perform-ssh-login-without-password-using-ssh-keygen-ssh-copy-id/
[20:34] <Kerim> Nicolas_Leonidas: I recommend don_jaime 's solution, though
[20:34] <joshu_> is it not possible to make changes in the network manager from lightdm without first logging in?
[20:34] <Droopsta915> Hello. im trying to install ubuntu from my usb stck. but my laptop doesnt go into the boot setup menu. any ideas how i can access the install
[20:34] <reisio> Droopsta915: it just boots its preinstalled OS instead?
[20:34] <Kerim> Droopsta915: Check the boot order of your laptop
[20:34] <here> taek falkenMaze: /etc/sudoers works great for sudo with disabled passwords : <user>    ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[20:35] <Nicolas_Leonidas> don_jaime: if I want to decrypt self will I have to update the key on all hosts?
[20:36] <don_jaime> Nicolas_Leonidas: only the ones you're sshing from--the ones you're sshing *to* have the public key, which is not encrypted
[20:36] <Nicolas_Leonidas> don_jaime: yeah so the answer is I will be able to connect to anything I can connect now, right?
[20:37] <Droopsta915> the problem is my screen is cracked, so im using a computer monitor. the setup key is F12, but i press the key and i cant see any boot order options. just blank screen.
[20:37] <don_jaime> Nicolas_Leonidas: right, decrypting the private key would only be changing how it is stored locally, it would not change what it is or how the other hosts see it
[20:38] <Nicolas_Leonidas> don_jaime: ok, great how do I decrypt?
[20:38] <Kerim> Droopsta915: Are you sure it is F2? Just try DEL. Also may I know your computer model?
[20:39] <don_jaime> Nicolas_Leonidas: i'm googling for the syntax... :)
[20:39] <evgen> hi
[20:39] <Nicolas_Leonidas> don_jaime: I did too lol
[20:40] <Droopsta915> Kerim: its a Dell inspiron mini 1012. yes. the manual says F12, but i have tried all F2 through F12 and i cant get the menu to pop up. frustrating
[20:41] <Droopsta915> Kerim: ive also removed the flash drive and attemted to to get into the boot setup. still nothing
[20:41] <don_jaime> Nicolas_Leonidas: i believe you want to do ssh-keygen -p (with possibly some other options) as that allows you to manage the password (and should let you essentially remove it)
[20:42] <don_jaime> Nicolas_Leonidas: here we go maybe http://learninglamp.wordpress.com/2012/06/26/remove-passphrase-from-ssh-key/
[20:42] <don_jaime> that uses a different tool, so you might want to consider your options between the two
[20:42] <Kerim> Droopsta915: Do you have any other OS on your machine, currently?
[20:43] <thrzsh> test
[20:43] <napsc> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/112396/how-do-i-remove-the-passphrase-for-the-ssh-key-without-having-to-create-a-new-ke
[20:43] <Droopsta915> Kerim: yes. Ubuntu 11.04. Its eol. trying to upgrade to 12.04.
[20:43] <don_jaime> Nicolas_Leonidas: ah, yeah, just ssh-keygen -p
[20:44] <don_jaime> Nicolas_Leonidas: "Enter new passphrase (empty for no passphrase):"
[20:44] <k1l> !eolupgrades | Droopsta915
[20:45] <Kerim> Droopsta915: Hmmm, gimme a moment
[20:45] <hphoenix> Got an odd problem on a recent install of 13.04.  After installing and configuring, I had a secondary physical drive installed (an old w95 drive) I copied some stuff off of.  I removed the old drive physically, but now when I try to boot, it drops to busybox/initramfs.  How do you remove a physical drive from the system?  (I already checked fstab, and /dev/sdb isn't even in it.)
[20:45] <Nicolas_Leonidas> don_jaime: yup, that worked, life's more interesting now, many thanks
[20:47] <Droopsta915> Kerim: i think maybe F12 gives me the setup screen, but i cant see it using a computer monitor. But if i cant see it. its impossible to boot from usb.
[20:47] <Kerim> Droopsta915: Do you use the keyboard on the machine itself?
[20:48] <Kerim> Droopsta915: or an external one?
[20:48] <Droopsta915> Kerim. yes. On the machine.
[20:49] <Kerim> Droopsta915: Then use an external one. I am assuming that you have to keep the lid opened to use the machine's keyboard and the computer might not know that the screen is defect so it doesn't default to the external screen
[20:49] <Kerim> Droopsta915: Use an external keyboard and for testing purposes, turn on your machine and immediately close the lid
[20:49] <Kerim> Droopsta915: See if you see anything BIOS-like on your external screen
[20:50] <Kerim> Droopsta915: Any boot up messages, etc
[20:51] <Xabster> I'm very new to Ubuntu and I would love some help on getting my fans under control in my new install of 13.04 - the noise is driving me insane
[20:51] <Droopsta915> Kerim:ok. good idea. let me try an external keyboard and reboot. ;) worth a shot. ill be back soon
[20:51] <Kerim> Droopsta915: Alright :)
[20:52] <joshu_> how can I find where network manager stores the mobile broadband settings?
[20:53] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | hphoenix
[20:53] <Dr_Willis> hphoenix,  id try the ubuntu live cd and the boot-repair tool mentioned at the fixgrub urls
[20:54] <hphoenix> Grub boots fine.  It's when I select to boot it fails to find the drive and drops to initramfs.  I plugged the drive back in, booted just fine.
[20:55] <Xabster> !fixfan
[20:55] <hphoenix> (the actual boot drive is there and readable....it's the /dev/sdb drive it can't find)
[20:56] <Dr_Willis> because the grub configs are confused would be my guess.. the fixgrub tool/boot-repair tool should fix that
[20:57] <hphoenix> I'll give it a shot.  Thanks!
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> quiet? or lag? or netsplit  i missed?
[21:15] <mafsi> Dr_Willis: quiet, I think...
[21:21] <unclouded> what does the 12.04 Desktop installer do after trying to install the bootloader?  our install failed trying to install the bootloader.  after we've fixed it up with grub-install, what would the installer have done afterwards that will be left undone?
[21:22] <bekks> unclouded: It will tell you that the installation was successful.
[21:22] <unclouded> nice, so after we
[21:23] <unclouded> ve sorted GRUB then it will be a normal system?
[21:24] <drjeats> anybody ever dealt with a flickering screen using an nvidia 8600M?
[21:24] <bekks> unclouded: Yes.
[21:24] <drjeats> flickers on nouveau, leaves me with a blank screen and blinking cursor if i install nvidia-310 or nvidia-313-updates. am just now about to try nvidia-304 and others
[21:25] <unclouded> sweet, cheers for that bekks
[21:28] <Naphatul> i just made another account on the same machine, it's not in the sudoers file but it can still see my home directory, is there a way to change this besides chmoding my whole home folder?
[21:28] <Ben64> !acl | Naphatul
[21:28] <Ben64> oh...
[21:29] <Ben64> Naphatul: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissionsACLs
[21:30] <netlar_> I see init on my system, but I thought Upstart replaces init
[21:32] <bekks> netlar_: Which it does. For backward compatibility, you still have /etc/init/, and, still, the kernel calls "init" as PID 1. That has nothing to do with SYSV init.
[21:32] <kike_> HOLA
[21:33] <kike_> Hola que tal
[21:33] <netlar_> bekks: Is /etc/init different from /sbin/init?
[21:33] <bekks> netlar_: Of course.
[21:33] <kike_> nirvana
[21:33] <bekks> netlar_: /etc/init/ is part of SYSV init scripts, while /sbin/init is the very first userland application that is called by the kernel.
[21:33] <netlar_> SYSV = Upstart?
[21:34] <bekks> netlar_: No. SYSV = SYSV. Upstart replaces it.
[21:34] <netlar_> oh ok
[21:35] <k1l> !sp | kike_
[21:35] <k1l> !spanish | kike_
[21:36] <netlar_> bekks: I am just reading the Upstart Intro and trying to get a better understanding
[21:37] <redmk2> quit
[21:37] <redmk2> bye
[21:38] <kike_> donde lo escribp disculpe
[21:39] <columb> I've done something wrong and I can't switch my keyboard layout with shift+alt. Layout indicator is also missing. However, indicator still works in system login menu just after PC start.
[21:39] <columb> iBus daemon is running. Indicator is enabled. But... Doesn't work.
[21:41] <columb> And any related info about similar issues on ubuntuforums is unavailable due to maintenance.
[21:42] <bekks> columb: google still has the cached pages.
[21:43] <Joufflu> trying to load ubuntu onto VMWare via USB, I tested the USB by rebooting my computer and it booted fine; don't know why VMWare is NOT detecting the bootloader...
[21:44] <reisio> Joufflu: some reason you aren't just telling vmware where the image (.iso) is?
[21:45] <amanda_k> hey guys. anyone here familiar with upstart. as in /etc/init/ ?
[21:46] <bekks> amanda_k: Why?
[21:46] <amanda_k> im trying to make a job on my dev server to auto compile my coffeescript when it changes..
[21:47] <amanda_k> but even though it continues to run, it stops auto compiling :/
[21:47] <reisio> sounds like more of a job for cron or watchd/inotify or something
[21:47] <amanda_k> http://pastebin.com/panUUjNH this is what i have.
[21:48] <amanda_k> but like i said. it runs once. compiles, and then stops
[21:50] <Naphatul> amanda_k: well you only call your program once, so yeah it stops
[21:50] <Naphatul> unless coffee watches for changes
[21:50] <amanda_k> right. i have the -w flag
[21:50] <amanda_k> when i run it manually it works fine
[21:51] <Naphatul> well you can check /var/log/upstart for logs
[21:52] <redramires> Hello
[21:53] <Teleportable> hey guys how can i change the hard disk (number)?
[21:54] <bekks> Teleportable: What exactly do you mean by "hard disk number", and what do you really want to do?
[21:54] <Beatstreet> trying to reinstall server on a 2gb partition, this partition is on a 2TB drive with the remainder of the partitoin part of a RAID. During OS reload I am getting an error that the partition start at an offset and I need to correct. If I redo the partitions it will drop the drive out of the RAID killing the data?
[21:55] <amanda_k> Naphatul: nothing out of the ordinary...
[21:55] <amanda_k> Naphatul: just a log of the compiles files, not why it just compiles once and stops
[21:55] <Teleportable> bekks ive removed my external disk, after reattach the number has been changed, ex. disk1 changed to disk2
[21:56] <Teleportable> bekks i cant run my projects
[21:56] <bekks> Teleportable: Eaples are useless, since Ubuntu does not use "disk1" or "disk2".
[21:56] <bekks> Teleportable: What exactly is the error you get when doing what exactly?
[21:57] <Teleportable> bekks Ardour and Transmission cant find the correct address
[21:57] <bekks> Teleportable: Which address?
[21:57] <bekks> Teleportable: Neither ardour nor Transmission do you "hard disk addresses" at all.
[21:57] <bekks> Teleportable: Whats the exact error you get when doing what exactly?
[21:57] <Teleportable> bekks on Ardour audio Tracks
[21:58] <Teleportable> bekks hold on
[21:58] <Ampelbein> amanda_k: Shot in the dark: Does coffee fork a new process? If so, you have to tell upstart "expect fork"
[21:58] <guzzlefry> Quick question, does Ubuntu Server come with a GUI?
[21:58] <Pici> guzzlefry: no
[21:59] <Teleportable> bekks: cannot check for existing file /media/user/user1/new folder (2)/
[21:59] <bekks> Teleportable: So what does that have to do with "hard disk numbers"?
[21:59] <bekks> Teleportable: Your systems tells you it cant find a path to a file.
[21:59] <guzzlefry> So basically, not a good platform to develop on?
[21:59] <bekks> guzzlefry: Why not?
[21:59] <guzzlefry> bekks: IDEs typically need some type of desktop environment.
[22:00] <Ampelbein> guzzlefry: You can install any gui you like.
[22:00] <bekks> guzzlefry: Then install one.
[22:00] <Naphatul> guzzlefry: why would you develop on a server?
[22:00] <guzzlefry> Because it's local?
[22:00] <guzzlefry> contained in a VM in my case
[22:00] <amanda_k> Ampelbein: when i do `service coffee start` it stops the return :/
[22:00] <Naphatul> so use a VM with a desktop distro to write your code and deploy to a VM
[22:00] <Pici> guzzlefry: you can install 'server packages' on a normal desktop install too.
[22:01] <guzzlefry> Is the configuration/setup the same?
[22:01] <Ampelbein> guzzlefry: Ubuntu Server is just a different set of DEFAULT software installed.
[22:01] <guzzlefry> ah okay
[22:01] <guzzlefry> thanks
[22:02] <amanda_k> Ampelbein: and no. that doesnt work :/
[22:02] <Naphatul> amanda_k: whats this coffee application exactly? might help to know what it's doing
[22:02] <Ampelbein> amanda_k: was worth a try.
[22:03] <amanda_k> coffee is a coffeescript to javascript compiler
[22:03] <amanda_k> you write more python-like code that then compiles into javascript
[22:03] <amanda_k> so it runs under nodejs
[22:04] <Naphatul> yeah but i mean like the webpage with the documentation, it doesn't look like it's in the default repos, at least not under just coffee
[22:04] <Ampelbein> Naphatul: The package is called coffeescript.
[22:04] <amanda_k> Naphatul: http://coffeescript.org/
[22:06] <TechTonics> hello i'm having a difficult time getting ruby 2.0.0-p247 to install on ubuntu 13.04 anyone have anyideas?
[22:06] <daftykins> maybe find a ruby channel
[22:07] <TechTonics> heheh great idea .. i think everyone is asleep in there :)
[22:07] <daftykins> or they're meanies and won't reply :(
[22:08] <TechTonics> also could be ..
[22:08] <daftykins> what exactly is happening when you try?
[22:08] <Ampelbein> TechTonics: It would also help if you included some kind of error message, what exactly you were doing etc.
[22:08] <daftykins> ^
[22:08] <Neo33> hello folks, i have a captcha question that i cannot anwer. any help pls? ( What does everyone celebrate on the third Saturday of September (in 3 letters)? )
[22:08] <TechTonics> well i dl the tarball .. run ./configure
[22:08] <TechTonics> and then make
[22:09] <TechTonics> and then make install .....
[22:09] <Teleportable> bekks it cant find the path file because of disk(number)
[22:09] <k1l> !ot | Neo33
[22:09] <m000gle> Does anyone know of a way to set minimum window dimensions for a Chromium/Chrome window?
[22:09] <Neo33> sorry k1l
[22:09] <bekks> Teleportable: Which disk number? Whats a disk number supposed to be?
[22:09] <TechTonics> then i get from ./tool/rbinstall.rb:751:in `<main>'make: *** [do-install-all] Error 1
[22:09] <bekks> Teleportable: Where do you suspect a "disk number" in the file path?
[22:09] <daftykins> Neo33: hah i have absolutely no idea
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> disk number?  like  /dev/sda1  ?
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> 1=the # of the partition
[22:10] <Ampelbein> TechTonics: Could you include more context of that error? Use paste.ubuntu.com and include more of the output.
[22:11] <Teleportable> bekks WARNING A sound file is missing. it will be replaced by silence ERROR Filesource: cannont check for existing file media/user/disk1/New folder/Audio 2.wav permission denied
[22:12] <Teleportable> bekks from Ardour
[22:12] <Teleportable> bekks my external hard is disk3 atm
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> thats just a path to the mountpoint
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> which may have changed if the disk has been remounted
[22:13] <bekks> Teleportable: if it is "disk3", then you are not on ubuntu.
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> does /media/yourusername/disk(anhtying) exist?
[22:13] <Teleportable> Dr_Willis exactly
[22:13] <linux|newb> I naively kicked off a mkfs job to a 3TB drive via ssh and wanna got to bed and kill the laptop the ssh session is running on... will initialising disk with 0s still run to completion if I kill session?
[22:13] <TechTonics> thanks i got it .. .needed to be root :)
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> Unless his disk is labeled 'disk3'
[22:13] <TechTonics> thanks :)
[22:14] <bekks> Teleportable: The file path /media/somewhere/some/path/file.name is just a path.
[22:14] <bekks> Dr_Willis: :)
[22:14] <dlaflamme> below123Ice
[22:14] <bekks> linux|newb: no. it will just cancel the running job. Just wait a few minutes.
[22:14] <Teleportable> bekks so what is this error from?
[22:14] <Naphatul> amanda_k: maybe try 'expect daemon' or 'expect stop' ?
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> linux|newb,  i dont think it will. You could do a ctrl-z, then 'bg' then 'exit'  and that MIGHT let it keep running
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> mkfs is not initilizing the disk with zeros as far as i know.. it does other stuff
[22:15] <bekks> Teleportable: That file does not exist. The path does not exist.
[22:15] <Naphatul> amanda_k: when it fails compiling what does upstart say the status is?
[22:15] <bekks> Teleportable: Its nothing about "disk numbers" or whatsoever.
[22:15] <Teleportable> bekks im on the path and the file is here
[22:15] <linux|newb> bekks: Dr_Willis: cheers
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> Teleportable,  on it how? if in the terminal see what 'pwd' says the path is
[22:17] <amanda_k> Naphatul: stop/daemon didnt work
[22:18] <columb> What's ubuntu default input method? iBus?
[22:18] <amanda_k> Naphatul: it says its running
[22:18] <Teleportable> Dr_Willis & bekks worked after changing the path by gedit !!!.....
[22:18] <trism> amanda_k: hmm, a simple upstart user script with: exec coffee -cw /home/user/coffee/; is working fine here after I: start coffee; did you check /var/log/upstart/coffee.log for output?
[22:18] <amanda_k> Naphatul: the process doesnt seem like it dies, but just stops working for some reason
[22:19] <Fred_12221> linux|newb look up the 'screen' command. I always use it when connecting via ssh. It lets you disconnect from the ssh session with the programs still running.
[22:19] <amanda_k> trism: 21:26:19 - compiled /var/apps/hauler/static/js/settings.coffee .. and so on. no errors
[22:19] <Teleportable> bekks so i could just change the number, that was the problem but i could find this how...
[22:19] <bekks> Teleportable: There is no such "number" you insist to believe in.
[22:20] <Teleportable> Disk1
[22:20] <Teleportable> Disk2
[22:20] <trism> amanda_k: that would seem like it is working then, right?
[22:20] <Teleportable> bekks it counts when you have a duplicated  name....
[22:20] <bekks> Teleportable: The most likely approach is that thats just the name of the filesystem. And thats irrelevant at all.
[22:20] <amanda_k> trism: but its not. it compiles once and if i change another .coffee file it fails to generate a new .js for it
[22:20] <Teleportable> bekks as array
[22:20] <bekks> Teleportable: Then its the name of the filesystem, which can be safely ignored.
[22:21] <Teleportable> bekks true
[22:21] <bekks> Teleportable: And enter is not a punctuation sign,
[22:22] <Teleportable> bekks is there no option for Rename external hards?
[22:22] <bekks> Teleportable: You can rename them as you like. It will not even affect your "problem".
[22:23] <Teleportable> bekks theres no option for
[22:23] <Naphatul> amanda_k: try to see if anything here helps: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#command-line-options
[22:23] <Teleportable> bekks (its inactive)
[22:23] <Naphatul> otherwise i'm out of ideas
[22:23] <bekks> Teleportable: There is. It will not affect your problem.
[22:23] <Teleportable> bekks but ardour could read all correct when i changed its path
[22:24] <bekks> Teleportable: The path will not be changed by renaming the filesystem.
[22:24] <bekks> Teleportable: Thats why "it will not affect your problem".
[22:24] <trism> amanda_k: that is strange, I am making directories all over the place here and adding new files without a problem, I would suggest a permission issue but if it really works the first time...
[22:24] <guzzlefry> How likely is an Ubuntu Server to break after updates?
[22:24] <Teleportable> bekks give me a chance
[22:25] <Teleportable> bekks is there a cmd for terminal to rename by sudo?
[22:25] <k1l> guzzlefry: depends on the setting. but 3rd party software will brake faster
[22:25] <bekks> Teleportable: tune2fs - but again, for the third time: it will not solve your problem.
[22:25]  * guzzlefry is used to source-based distros. So isn't sure as to how much more reliable binary-based are.
[22:25] <bekks> guzzlefry: This isnt #statistics.
[22:25] <bekks> guzzlefry: Just have a backup handy.
[22:25] <trism> amanda_k: maybe try creating a new directory and just adding one file, then check the perms before and after?
[22:26] <Teleportable> bekks ah ok but how to change the array? :'(
[22:26] <Naphatul> guzzlefry: if you want really stable go use debian stable
[22:26] <bekks> Teleportable: There is no such array whatsoever.
[22:26] <jason_hudson> guzzlefry, it's generally unlikely.
[22:26] <guzzlefry> ok, thanks
[22:26] <bekks> Teleportable: Filesystem names arent kept in arrays.
[22:26] <k1l> guzzlefry: take a look at the lts releases from ubuntu
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> stick with the default repos, no ppa's and you shouldent have many issues.
[22:26] <k1l> !lts | guzzlefry
[22:26] <matias> Hola
[22:27] <XYZAFFA1R> Hello
[22:27] <k1l> !rootirc > XYZAFFA1R
[22:27] <OerHeks> guzzlefry, how unlikely it can break, allways backup your data.
[22:28] <amanda_k> trism: process is running as root
[22:28] <Dr_Willis> 'data worth keeping - is data worth backing up'
[22:28] <XYZAFFA1R> How do i make it not do that?
[22:28] <XYZAFFA1R> I am not using ubuntu
[22:28] <XYZAFFA1R> I am using puppy
[22:28] <XYZAFFA1R> I have fido enabled
[22:28] <k1l> XYZAFFA1R: ask the puppy support for that
[22:28] <bekks> XYZAFFA1R: This is no puppy support channel.
[22:28] <XYZAFFA1R> ok
[22:28] <Dr_Willis> XYZAFFA1R,   puppy runs everything as root, but you can make an account. see #puppy-linux
[22:28] <amanda_k> trism: are you running the exact conf file i posted on pastebin?
[22:28] <uwotm8> so much ppl in here o.O
[22:28] <XYZAFFA1R> ok
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> or was it #puppylinux
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> Puppy is weird and annoying. ;)
[22:29] <OerHeks> Only when you want the effort pay itself, Dr_Willis
[22:29] <trism> amanda_k: no I am running a user upstart script in ~/.config/upstart/, it just has: exec coffee -cw /home/user/coffee/
[22:29] <uwotm8> does any of you need a darkode.com invitation?
[22:30] <trism> amanda_k: I'll try a system wide one
[22:30] <k1l> !ot | uwotm8
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> trism,  - upstart finally got support for user  owned upstart  tasks?  never noticed.
[22:30] <uwotm8> klol
[22:30] <uwotm8> bai
[22:32] <amanda_k> trism: i now have the same line as you. same issue. compiles when i first run it. i have to keep stopping/starting it to compile any changes :'(
[22:33] <trism> Dr_Willis: yep, disabled by default but easy to enable if you use unity, pretty nice too
[22:35] <trism> amanda_k: hmm, working fine as a system wide script in /etc/init/ for me too
[22:36] <amanda_k> trism: im so depressed. this sucks. what version of coffee/ node are you using?
[22:36] <trism> amanda_k: if you are on 13.04 there is another option you could try
[22:36] <kontagious> which ati driver should i use with 13.04
[22:36] <GuestOne> hey guys, i don't remember if i have an account on ubuntu forums, how to know this?
[22:36] <amanda_k> trism: im on precise
[22:37] <trism> amanda_k: whichever version is in 13.04, 1.4.0 it seems
[22:37] <trism> amanda_k: maybe a bug I'll try on my 12.04 system
[22:37] <GuestOne> has canonical send a mail about the recent issue?
[22:38] <OerHeks> GuestOne, not yet, see http://blog.canonical.com/2013/07/21/notice-of-security-breach-on-ubuntu-forums-site/
[22:38] <GuestOne> OerHeks, there is some way to know if i have an account on ubuntu forums? i don't remember
[22:39] <GuestOne> i need to know to change my password eventually
[22:40] <XYZAFFA1R> OK i am back as not root now
[22:40] <trism> amanda_k: hmm working fine on 12.04 too, although I am only doing simple scripts
[22:40] <OerHeks> !rootirc
[22:40] <trism> amanda_k: if you were on 13.04 you could use upstart file events to just trigger coffee every time a file is modified in the directory
[22:41] <amanda_k> trims: node version? coffee version?
[22:41] <XYZAFFA1R> Am I still root?
[22:41] <kontagious>  which ati driver should i use with 13.04 hd6450
[22:41] <k1l> XYZAFFA1R: dont start the irc client as root
[22:41] <trism> amanda_k: still the stuff in the repos 1.2.0-2 and 0.6.12~dfsg1-1ubuntu1
[22:41] <kontagious> my installation broke twice
[22:41] <Dr_Willis> the one the addational-driver tool reccomends is normally the best bet kontagious
[22:42] <kontagious> thanks
[22:43] <jason_hudson> kontagious, what do you mean by "broke"?
[22:43] <jason_hudson> kontagious, and, are you installing them on a laptop?
[22:43] <harumph> hi all - my goal is to watch netflix on my netbook. i'm running linux mint. using wine for silverlight doesn't work for me - slows things down too much. since the ubuntu forums are down, i'm finding promising google search returns that i can't see. has there been any movement on silverlight for linux?
[22:44] <kontagious> lost unity panel
[22:44] <kontagious> and desktop
[22:44] <amanda_k> trism: im spooling a new box now. with the default node/coffee. i had the latest node 10. something and 1.6.3... lets see what happens
[22:44] <Beatstreet> trying to reinstall server on a 2gb partition, this partition is on a 2TB drive with the remainder of the partitoin part of a RAID. During OS reload I am getting an error that the partition start at an offset and I need to correct. If I redo the partitions it will drop the drive out of the RAID killing the data?
[22:44] <jason_hudson> kontagious, I'm not sure it's the drivers' fault, when in doubt I always go for the opensource ones, are those offered to you?
[22:44] <wilee-nilee> !mint > harumph
[22:45] <XYZAFFA1R> Is linux mint the same as ubuntu, all exept for the desktop?
[22:45] <kontagious> no idea
[22:45] <XYZAFFA1R> I am no longer root
[22:45] <daniel> pretty much
[22:45] <XYZAFFA1R> Is one better than the other?
[22:45] <Guest41519> They are all based off of debain so yea
[22:45] <kontagious> i installed them and the drivers worked until i restarted. when i restarted HDMI stopped working and vga worked but with no unity panel
[22:45] <Dr_Willis> XYZAFFA1R,  no.. they do other changes.. and mint is not supported here.. it the main point. ask about mint in the mint channels
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> kontagious, You might try resetting unity and compiz. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04
[22:46] <reisio> XYZAFFA1R: mint is based of ubuntu is based off debian :)
[22:46] <k1l> XYZAFFA1R: ask that in ##linux (and you are still root)
[22:46] <kontagious> i installed unity-gnome and it still didnt work. i will try the  addational-driver tool
[22:46] <Dr_Willis> XYZAFFA1R,  i sugest you use ubuntu, not mint
[22:46] <akhilleus> sera a tutti
[22:46] <k1l> at least he should no use puppy with root :)
[22:46] <XYZAFFA1R> dr_willis, Why
[22:46] <OerHeks> harumph, join the clup, silverlight nor moonlight, (i cannot test netflix in EU.)
[22:46] <jason_hudson> akhilleus, quello è #ubuntu-it
[22:47] <Dr_Willis> XYZAFFA1R,  because this is Ubuntu support..   I imagine mint support will say use mint.. I dont see much point in using mint at all.
[22:47] <kontagious> jason_hudson, where are the open source drivers located? if its in ubuntu software center they didnt work :(
[22:47] <jason_hudson> kontagious, you should see them in the software centre yeah.
[22:47] <Ari-Yang> kontagious, what driver are you using? fglrx (the proprietary one?) or the open source one?
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> kontagious, Unity-gnome, what is the original install?
[22:47] <XYZAFFA1R> DR_willis, So you are saying that based on the channel? Can you give me an actual reason?
[22:47] <kontagious> right now i am formatting with a fresh 13.04 desktop default install
[22:48] <OerHeks> XYZAFFA1R, Mint has its own issues.
[22:48] <Ari-Yang> by the sound of those glitches, kontagious I'm thinking you're using the proprietary one, which you're bound to run into glitches
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> XYZAFFA1R,  count the # of people in the support channel.. and see who has the most people.. If you want to use mint then GO use it.. decide for yourself
[22:48] <Ari-Yang> kontagious, are you running on a desktop or a laptop?
[22:48] <k1l> !best | XYZAFFA1R
[22:48] <kontagious> Ari-Yang, desktop
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> XYZAFFA1R,  we dont really want Mint discussions cluttering up this UBUNTU support channel.
[22:48] <Dako300> I cannot get ubuntu 12.04 to boot into X with my Radeon X1600 card. It has a segmentation fault at address 0xc. whenever I try and run sudo startx.
[22:49] <Ari-Yang> kontagious, what card?
[22:49] <tom2> test
[22:49] <Naphatul> why don't you just go and try both of them and see which one you like the most?
[22:49] <XYZAFFA1R> Dr_Willis, It is ubuntu related, I am asking whats better.
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> kontagious, Is this search fro drivers a thing you thik you need to do or is there any actual problem with a stock install?
[22:49] <Dr_Willis> XYZAFFA1R,  its not really Ubuntu SUPPORT related.
[22:49] <harumph> what if i ask the same question and sub in mint for ubuntu. i'm sure the solution will be identical.
[22:49] <reisio> XYZAFFA1R: ever seen the film Multiplicity?
[22:49] <tom2> it worked
[22:49] <PyR3X> How can I get OSS support? I'm trying to play an old game that requires it
[22:49] <XYZAFFA1R> reisio, No
[22:49] <kontagious> wilee-nilee, when i dont have drviers, my hdmi port doesnt work
[22:49] <reisio> XYZAFFA1R: too bad, perfect analogy :p
[22:49] <Dr_Willis> PyR3X, what game?
[22:49] <k1l> XYZAFFA1R: you are spoiling the ubuntu support channel with mint offtopic
[22:49] <PyR3X> Dr_Willis: quake2
[22:49] <reisio> PyR3X: lsmod | grep -i oss
[22:50] <voxadm> For some reason I can't seem to mount a cifs share. The share is on my Windows 7 workstation and the system I'm trying mount from is an up-to-date VM running on the Win7 host. I'm an admin on the Win7 box and have root on the Debian VM. Whenever I run "sudo mount -t cifs -o username=adam //DROGON/share /mnt" I get "mount error(13): Permission denied".
[22:50] <Ari-Yang> kontagious, personally I recommend you just stick with the open source radeon driver....
[22:50] <PyR3X> reisio: returns nothing
[22:50] <kontagious> Ari-Yang, that is  addational-driver tool?
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> PyR3X,  there are rewriten updated quake2 engines i recall that dont need the oss stuff.  and give better gfx.
[22:50] <Naphatul> voxadm: you're not supplying a password
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> PyR3X,  askubuntu.com may have a guide on getting the old quake working also.
[22:50] <PyR3X> Dr_Willis: I'm somewhat of an old school player and require a certain client (R1Q2) that I built from source and still requires it
[22:50] <harumph>  hi all - my goal is to watch netflix on my netbook. i'm running
[22:50] <harumph> 	  ubuntu. using wine for silverlight doesn't work for me - slows
[22:50] <harumph> 	  things down too much. since the ubuntu forums are down, i'm finding
[22:50] <harumph> 	  promising google search returns that i can't see. has there been any
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> kontagious, http://askubuntu.com/questions/285920/no-sound-through-hdmi-out-13-04
[22:50] <FloodBot1> harumph: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:51] <harumph> 	  movement on silverlight for linux?
[22:51] <Dr_Willis> PyR3X,  alsa is suposed to have oss support built in. but it may need to be enabled these days
[22:51] <wilee-nilee> kontagious, seems to be a kernel issue?
[22:51] <Dr_Willis> harumph,  i thoiught silverlight was basically being killed off. :) what do you need it for
[22:51] <kontagious> wilee-nilee, i got the video and sound working, untill i restarted the computer then no video or sound
[22:51] <PyR3X> Dr_Willis: I had a hack before where I would "echo quake2 0 0 direct" into /proc/asound/pcm/pcm0p/oss" but oss does not exist
[22:51] <Ari-Yang> kontagious, yes, it's the default. go to software sources and go to the 'Additional Drivers' tab, at least that's where it is on 12.10. check this screen shot http://gyazo.com/aef04800f93347ea7a193b257be09966
[22:51] <harumph> Dr_Willis, netflix
[22:51] <Dr_Willis> harumph,  its allredy been done on ubuntu. :)
[22:51] <Dr_Willis> !netflix | harumph
[22:52] <kontagious> Ari-Yang, thanks ill try that
[22:52] <reisio> harumph: Wine should work alright, there're some things you can do to increase performance, though
[22:52] <Dr_Willis> that netflix on ubuntu has a tweaked wine, silverlight, and firefox  i belive in it..
[22:52] <Dako300> I cannot get ubuntu 12.04 to boot into X with my Radeon X1600 card. It has a segmentation fault at address 0xc whenever I try and run sudo startx.
[22:53] <harumph> reisio, what do you suggest to increase performance?
[22:53] <Dako300> any help would be nice
[22:53] <Dr_Willis> Dako300,  dont run startx with sudo. would be a good idea.
[22:53] <Dr_Willis> Dako300,  tell the channel what video driver you are using also..
[22:54] <Dako300> I am using the radeon driver supplied with ubuntu 12.04
[22:54] <Dr_Willis> Dako300,  tried the fglrx driver from the addational-drivers tool/tab yet?
[22:54] <Dako300> I will try that now.
[22:55] <EpicCyndaquil> is there another channel dedicated to ubuntu server?
[22:55] <voxadm> Naphatul: I enter my password when I'm prompted for it. "Password for adam@//DROGON/share:"
[22:55] <Ari-Yang> kontagious, after you select a driver, you'll have to restart your computer
[22:55] <reisio> harumph: I've found just giving it a second and using fullscreen helps a lot
[22:55] <xangua> EpicCyndaquil: #ubuntu-server
[22:55] <Naphatul> voxadm: are you entering the password for the windows machine?
[22:55] <reisio> harumph: if you're using Unity... it might help to use something else that isn't accelerated
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> Dako300, More info. http://askubuntu.com/questions/159531/any-chance-for-fully-working-x1600-pci-e-id-71c3-unity-under-ubuntu-12-04
[22:55] <voxadm> Naphatul: Yep.
[22:56] <Ari-Yang> be careful with fglrx, I've seen people try it and were unable to start x after installing it kontagious (and Dako300), just make sure you get it from the ubuntu repo (like from the Additional Drivers tool or sudo apt-get install fglrx or fglrx-updates)
[22:56] <draconus> hello folks
[22:57] <k1l> you shouldnt "startx" but start the dm instead (like sudo start lightdm)
[22:57] <reisio> 'lo draconus
[22:57] <draconus> nice to see you around again, reisio :)
[22:57] <harumph> reisio: thanks, i'll look into that.
[22:57] <reisio> isn't it!
[22:58] <amanda_k> trism: shit. is it worth mentioning that im running this in a virtualbox/ vagrant box?
[22:58] <Dako300_> I try and start lightdm but it will not let me log into anything
[22:58] <PyR3X> When I run "padsp ./quake2" I get "Sorry but your sound card doesn't support this"
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> Dako300,  clarify what you mean by that
[22:58] <Dako300_> it just loops back to the login screen
[22:58] <k1l> Dako300: so you see the login screen?
[22:58] <amanda_k> maybe thats why the fs events are not being passes up ?
[22:58] <Dako300_> yes
[22:58] <k1l> Dako300: then take a look into the .xsession-errors
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> Dako300,  so your user session crashes back to the lightm login screen.
[22:58] <k1l> (in home that is)
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> Dako300,  does the guest account work? add a new user - see if that account works
[22:59] <draconus> would you happen to know how to forward traffic on certain port from one IP to another on the same, multihomed host?
[22:59] <For-Odin> anyone know how to fix console (virtual tty) text alignment? my text is shifted left a few characters and cant see my username...
[22:59] <Dako300_> I know it doesnt work because when I try it on a ubuntu live CD it complains that it needs to run in low graphics mode and when I click OK everything crashes
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> Dako300_,  if the LIGHTDM login screen is working.. then X is working.
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> Dako300_,  its possible its a user setting issue causing problems. thus the Guest user, and new user test  may pinpoint the issue
[23:00] <Dako300_> FYI: This is a fresh install
[23:00] <draconus2> damn got d/c
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> Dako300_,  and you have been running 'sudo startx' that may goof up the users settings.. so again. I suggest trying the GUEST user, and adding a new user. and verify that they both fail to work also
[23:02] <Naphatul> voxadm: make sure that the username is just 'adam'
[23:03] <Dako300_> I have a 2 GPU setup (the BIOS boots from a TNT2 since it cannot POST with only the X1600) and I forgot to change it back. When I actually change it to the X1600, I get a blank screen with the radeon driver
[23:03] <EpicCyndaquil> I've followed a few guides on setting up dovecot and postfix, but I can't seem to get it right. Does anyone with experience with mailservers have any suggestions?
[23:04] <XYZAFFA1R> I have a windows 8 laptop, and I want to use wubi, is there a way to do it?
[23:04] <Dako300_> Whenever I try and modprobe the fglrx driver, it says that it cannot find a card
[23:05] <Dako300_> I will reboot and see if that helps
[23:05] <XYZAFFA1R> I have a windows 8 laptop, and I want to use wubi, is there a way to do it?
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> XYZAFFA1R,  wubi is worth avoiding at all cost. and i dont think it works with windows 8
[23:06] <k1l> XYZAFFA1R: make a real install. wubi is very flaky and is hard to support
[23:06] <XYZAFFA1R> Ok
[23:06] <reisio> even if wubi weren't flaky, NTFS would be :p
[23:06] <XYZAFFA1R> I have had some trouble with partitioning in the past
[23:06] <XYZAFFA1R> I kinda screwed a hard drive once
[23:06] <reisio> XYZAFFA1R: backup first :)
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> if you want to toy with ubuntu in the least destuctive way. play with it in virtualbox
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> or use an external usb hd or flash drive.
[23:07] <reisio> pish, destruction ftw
[23:07] <k1l> XYZAFFA1R: if you wnat to test without harming your hdd try a live-cd/usb
[23:07] <niko_beilic> I'm having trouble install Ubuntu 13.04 on my PC, I've got Windows on a H.D.D
[23:07] <XYZAFFA1R> I used ubuntu for a year
[23:07] <XYZAFFA1R> I know I want it again
[23:07] <reisio> niko_beilic: what trouble?
[23:07] <XYZAFFA1R> I like puppy but
[23:07] <XYZAFFA1R> I want ubuntu
[23:07] <reisio> but puppy has no purpose :)
[23:08] <XYZAFFA1R> Its purpose, is that its better than windows
[23:08] <niko_beilic> reisio: the bootloader is failing to install
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> comparing Puppylinux to ubuntu is like comparing a model airplane to the space shuttle. ;)
[23:08] <reisio> XYZAFFA1R: that's like everything's purpose, though :p
[23:08] <XYZAFFA1R> So, How do i back this up?
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> XYZAFFA1R,  back 'what' up?
[23:08] <reisio> XYZAFFA1R: well well well
[23:09] <XYZAFFA1R> Can I back up a 320 gig hdd onto a 720 meg disk?
[23:09] <XYZAFFA1R> My hdd
[23:09] <reisio> XYZAFFA1R: is there anything you've added to your Windows installation that you can't live without?
[23:09] <XYZAFFA1R> No
[23:09] <XYZAFFA1R> I dont care about my windows shit
[23:09] <reisio> good, that makes it easier
[23:09] <XYZAFFA1R> PArdon my language
[23:09] <reisio> do you ever want to use Windows again?
[23:09] <Dr_Willis> id be sure to make a proper windows dvd restore/recovery disk set first.
[23:09] <jason_hudson> XYZAFFA1R, it's called feces.
[23:09] <reisio> ...
[23:09] <Dr_Willis> because you may just need them...
[23:10] <XYZAFFA1R> How do I make a back up cd?
[23:10] <reisio> burning DVDs is so awful
[23:10] <XYZAFFA1R> I dont even know how :)
[23:10] <reisio> if your laptop isn't terrible it has a recovery _partition_
[23:10] <reisio> which you can backup instead of making DVDs
[23:10] <XYZAFFA1R> yes it dose
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> your windows guides/help for your laptop - should have info on making a set and a tool
[23:10] <reisio> XYZAFFA1R: know how large it is?
[23:10] <Dako300> I tried the reboot and still getting no data from the card. When I try and modprobe fglrx (radeon driver is not up), it still says that no display adapetrs were found
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> I make up DVDS because often i remove the partion for linux. ;)
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> or move out the HD.
[23:10] <XYZAFFA1R> I will check one seck
[23:11] <reisio> I refuse to deal with Windows anymore, it's easier that way :)
[23:11] <reisio> and saves space on the backups drives
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> new laptop -> get me a ssd for it.. remove windows hd.. keep it somewhere safe.. use linux on the ssd. ;)
[23:11] <XYZAFFA1R> I have 4 partitions
[23:11] <XYZAFFA1R> 2 vfat
[23:11] <XYZAFFA1R> and 2ntsf
[23:11] <niko_beilic> reisio: i have 2 working HDD's on is a blank which I will be installingUbuntu 13.04 and the second hdd is windows
[23:11] <XYZAFFA1R> Obviously windows is the 297 gig
[23:11] <zipy> when i mount a device into home, are all files in home not reachable anymore or will they merge the home files and the hdd files
[23:11] <reisio> niko_beilic: so the installer finished, but it won't boot?
[23:12] <XYZAFFA1R> SO I think its 492 meg
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> zipy,  mountpoints dont 'merge'
[23:12] <niko_beilic> reisio: nope it's just failing to install GRUB
[23:12] <reisio> XYZAFFA1R: probably you can just backup all but the largest partition, and that'll get you the recovery stuff, should you need it
[23:12] <reisio> XYZAFFA1R: but please don't quote me on that :p
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> zipy,  if you mount /dev/sda1 to /home/ it will take over /home/
[23:12] <zipy> Dr_Willis, ok thanks
[23:13] <XYZAFFA1R> I accidently saved my puppy files in my restore partition, is that going to be a problem?
[23:13] <reisio> niko_beilic: grub is usually installed near the end is why I ask
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> XYZAFFA1R,  safest bet would be to figure out what app your pc has to make a restore dvd set.. and make the set.
[23:13] <XYZAFFA1R> ok
[23:13] <XYZAFFA1R> I accidently saved my puppy files in my restore partition, is that going to be a problem?
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> XYZAFFA1R,   puppy just looks for them.. nothing else will care.
[23:13] <Dako300> I think that the fglrx driver is too new for my card.
[23:13] <XYZAFFA1R> Dr_willis, ok
[23:13] <XYZAFFA1R> brb
[23:14] <niko_beilic> reisio: the setup was nearly done, then a error comes up saying "This is a fatal error"
[23:14] <niko_beilic> reisio: when it was trying to install GRUB (bootloader) towards the end of the install
[23:14] <reisio> right
[23:14] <reisio> I'm not sure what if anything is after that
[23:14] <th0r> Someone should tell XYZAFFA1R he won't be able to get warranty support if anything besides Win8 is on the hd
[23:14] <Dako300> Can anyone help
[23:14] <reisio> you could potentially just fix grub manually and it'd work
[23:15] <reisio> th0r: that's what the backup is for
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> backup the backups!
[23:16] <nightwalk> anyone know off the top of their head what the hostname(s) are that oneconf accesses?
[23:17] <XYZAFFA1R> I am back
[23:17] <niko_beilic> reisio: when it was trying to install GRUB (bootloader) towards the end of the install?
[23:17] <guzzlefry> What a sensible drive size for an Ubuntu Server install using Gnome and running a LAMP stack and possible a few other random things?
[23:18] <guzzlefry> Non-production.
[23:18] <XYZAFFA1R> So will the recovery cd app have a burner?
[23:18] <XYZAFFA1R> I have a burner
[23:18] <XYZAFFA1R> But not software for it
[23:18] <guzzlefry> Actually, maybe I should ask in #ubuntu-server. :P
[23:18] <wilee-nilee> niko_beilic, The bootrepair app has a bootinfo summary you can run that shows a lot of info you can run just it and post the url if you like.
[23:18] <XYZAFFA1R> windows doesnt come with it
[23:18] <reisio> guzzlefry: 5-10GB
[23:18] <reisio> guzzlefry: once you put GNOME on it, it's basically a desktop install
[23:18] <reisio> guzzlefry: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements says 5 is the low end
[23:19] <reisio> niko_beilic: find out if any other install things happen after grub
[23:19] <reisio> niko_beilic: if not, you can boot your install media and come back here and we can fix it
[23:20] <niko_beilic> wilee-nilee: there is nothing wrong with the OS as I said to reisio is failing to install GRUB could Windows be stopping it from installing GRUB
[23:20] <XYZAFFA1R> Dr_willis, They already sent me a usb and disk recovery media
[23:20] <Computron_> hi
[23:21] <XYZAFFA1R> Dr_willis, it says: Operating system already installed on your computer, windows 8 Recovery media for windows 8 products 64-bit
[23:22] <reisio> niko_beilic: more likely the automagickal grub stuff is just failing for your particular situation
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> niko_beilic, Right, do what you want, personally I would use the script to knock out the variables. With uefi and gpt being part of OS, all it takes is remnants of a gpt to cause this, the script will show this, it is the only way I know.
[23:22] <reisio> luckily it's not that complicated to do manually
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> yeah grub is an easy fix though
[23:22] <XYZAFFA1R> Dr_willis, is that right? If I screw up the partitioning can I use this to fix it?
[23:23] <XYZAFFA1R> Dr_willis, are you there?
[23:23] <XYZAFFA1R> Is d willi still there?
[23:23] <reisio> XYZAFFA1R:
[23:23] <XYZAFFA1R> ?
[23:23] <reisio> XYZAFFA1R: if they sent you a recovery disk, and you have the license key or whatever
[23:23] <reisio> that should be enough
[23:24] <niko_beilic> wilee-nilee & reisio Windows is NTFS and Ubuntu is GRUB
[23:24] <reisio> niko_beilic: not sure what you're trying to articulate with that :)
[23:24] <XYZAFFA1R> thats is why partition!
[23:24] <reisio> niko_beilic: if you want to boot up your install media and do 'try' instead of 'install' and come back here, we can fix grub if that's all that's wrong
[23:25] <trism> amanda_k: I'm really not sure at this point
[23:25] <wilee-nilee> I put 10$ on some gpt thang
[23:25] <wilee-nilee> and 20 on users error
[23:26] <XYZAFFA1R> So, how do I go about partitioning my hdd? I have the live cd
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> XYZAFFA1R,  the installer has  options to delete everything and install ubuntu. if you want to whipe the whole hd
[23:27] <XYZAFFA1R> Dr_willis, I am not doing that,
[23:27] <rannonga> theres also the something else option
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> XYZAFFA1R,  then you use the other options.. i suggest you have backups of imporntant stuff first
[23:28] <XYZAFFA1R> There is a partitioning option
[23:28] <rannonga> then you can just resize the partitions through there
[23:28] <XYZAFFA1R> I have the cd
[23:28] <XYZAFFA1R> Isnt that all I need?
[23:28] <rannonga> yeah its in the cd
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> Backup imporntant stuff to some other location, use the installer to resize or perhaps delete the recovery partion if you need space. and make a ubuntu partion to install to
[23:29] <XYZAFFA1R> How do I make it let me choose ubuntu or windows on start up?
[23:29] <reisio> XYZAFFA1R: if you're confident you have a DVD with all you need to reinstall Windows, you can just tell the Ubuntu install media to use the whole disk, wiping out existing data
[23:29] <reisio> at least, barring any UEFI nonsense :p
[23:29] <reisio> I don't know about that stuff
[23:29] <reisio> XYZAFFA1R: should do that by default, if you keep Windows
[23:29] <XYZAFFA1R> ok
[23:29] <XYZAFFA1R> Um
[23:30] <XYZAFFA1R> I wish some one could be there to help :/
[23:30] <rannonga> that seems a bit excessive considering that there is no secureboot
[23:30] <reisio> XYZAFFA1R: we're right here :p
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> boot installer.. click install along side windows.. see if it works..
[23:30] <reisio> rannonga: what does?
[23:30] <XYZAFFA1R> Dr_willis, I dont think that works
[23:31] <rannonga> wiping the windows partition
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> XYZAFFA1R,  how do you know?  thats whats most people use.
[23:31] <XYZAFFA1R> Dr_willis, I dont know
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> personally id use a new seperate hard drive. :) but thats bcasue i always want to use ssd's for my linux installs.. they are soooooo much faster
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> best $100 investment ive ever made
[23:32] <rannonga> I would just boot into windows, download a partition software create the partions then reboot and manually install to the new partition
[23:32] <XYZAFFA1R> I am going to use the ubuntu partition stuff.
[23:32] <rannonga> k
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> windows is faster at resizeing the windows paritons ive noticed.
[23:32] <XYZAFFA1R> And I have $.7 Not $100
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> sell your laptop. ;)
[23:33] <XYZAFFA1R> Genious
[23:33] <XYZAFFA1R> And I am tired of waiting
[23:33] <mikodo> XYZAFFA1R, Which version of Windows do you have?
[23:33] <reisio> if it's not fragmented, and it shouldn't be, the likelihood the resize will be fast and bug free is pretty high
[23:33] <XYZAFFA1R> 8
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> if you got stuff backed up.. and dont care for the risk.. try the install alongside option and see if it work
[23:33] <rannonga> It would be very easy then
[23:33] <reisio> after you resize, before you install Ubuntu, reboot back into Windows and let it fsck
[23:33] <XYZAFFA1R> Of course its fragmented
[23:33] <XYZAFFA1R> its windows
[23:34] <reisio> well, Windows constantly defrags by default these days
[23:34] <rannonga> how much have you used of it?
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> have windows defrag first if you are worried about it.
[23:34] <reisio> it's not as elegant as not being fragmented in the first place, but it's better than it was
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> reisio,  and you get to hear your windows machines running all night long defragging! ;P
[23:34] <reisio> yessir :p
[23:34] <reisio> great way to kill hardware, Windows
[23:34] <rannonga> beautiful
[23:34] <reisio> oh, time to reboot again
[23:35] <reisio> oh, time to reboot again
[23:35] <reisio> :p
[23:35] <FloodBot1> reisio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:35] <reisio> FloodBot1: you flood more than anyone :p
[23:35] <XYZAFFA1R> I checked today its at 25% fragmented, and I cant defrag, I have to let it do it itself :/
[23:35] <reisio> XYZAFFA1R: I haven't checked in 8, but you should still be able to tell it to
[23:35] <asdf1234> Does anyone know if I can create a custom sort method for Nautilus? E.g. by day of week (Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday) etc?
[23:35] <Dr_Willis> 'cant defrag'  ? why cant you? theres numerous defragging tools for windows
[23:35] <XYZAFFA1R> It wont let me
[23:35] <zerodivided> Hello, I just tried to install AMD video drivers using sudo apt-get install fglrx. Now my dual montiors stuck in mirrored mode and I have the usupported hardware watermark. I have an HD 5870
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> XYZAFFA1R, How full is the windows partition?
[23:35] <reisio> asdf1234: it's open source, so you can even if it isn't easy :)
[23:36] <reisio> asdf1234: monday, tuseday, wednesday?
[23:36] <reisio> XYZAFFA1R: #windows would know about that
[23:36] <zerodivided> Although the game I was trying to get to work started working =)
[23:36] <XYZAFFA1R> I think I have 206 gigs free of 297
[23:36] <asdf1234> reisio: I guess my question is more, HOW would I do that?
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> cool
[23:36] <reisio> asdf1234: monday, tuseday, wednesday?
[23:36] <asdf1234> reisio: Yes. I want my folders sorted by day of week.
[23:36] <rannonga> XYZ: that should easily be enough
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> zerodivided,  tried that ati control center tool. or watever its called these days amdccl or somthing like that.
[23:36] <XYZAFFA1R> I think just give linux 100 gigs?
[23:36] <XYZAFFA1R> Is that enough?
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> zerodivided,  the water mark. ive seen info on askubuntu.com about removeing that
[23:37] <zerodivided> Dr_Willis, ok Ill try it out
[23:37] <rannonga> XYZ: yeah should be fine i think
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> XYZAFFA1R,  depends on what you want to do with ubuntu.
[23:37] <reisio> XYZAFFA1R: 30GB Is more than enough
[23:37] <rannonga> XYZ: just dont download too much HD movies
[23:37] <reisio> took me years of system bloating to fill up 30GB with OS data
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> one reason ssd's and ubuntu work well. :)  Ubuntu dosent need the huge space windows does.
[23:38] <reisio> better FSes
[23:39] <rannonga> XYZ: to be honest I would try ubuntu and use gparted
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> Chicks dig guys that use Ubuntu. ;)
[23:39] <kontagious> Ari-Yang, i have installed additional drivers from software center and it doesnt show my tv as a display and thinks my monitor is a laptop display
[23:39] <XYZAFFA1R> what is gparted
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> !gparted
[23:39] <rannonga> XYZ: it comes on the live cd
[23:40] <XYZAFFA1R> Cant I just use the partition tool that is on the cd?
[23:40] <rannonga> XYZ: yeah that is gparted
[23:40] <XYZAFFA1R> oh ok
[23:40] <reisio> well, gparted is one frontend to what the installer probably uses for partitioning: parted
[23:40] <rannonga> XYZ: you just need to go to something else the bottom option then resize your windows partition
[23:40] <reisio> gparted being the one a human being would be more likely to use
[23:40] <XYZAFFA1R> So, I go in, resize windows partition, make a new partition with the empty space, and install ubuntu on that?
[23:40] <rannonga> XYZ: yes
[23:41] <reisio> XYZAFFA1R: ubuntu can make the partition itself, just resize
[23:41] <XYZAFFA1R> Its that easy?
[23:41] <reisio> and reboot to Windows to see if it still works
[23:41] <rannonga> XYZ: create a ext4 then mount it as root
[23:41] <XYZAFFA1R> After I install ubuntu?
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> the installer can automate that.. thats what 'install along side windows' does
[23:41] <XYZAFFA1R> what is ext4?
[23:41] <zerodivided> So the option in amdcccle to turn off display cloning is grayed out. Any ideas?
[23:41] <reisio> XYZAFFA1R: resize, reboot to windows see if it works, reboot to install media, install Ubuntu
[23:41] <rannonga> XYZ: the file type that ubuntu uses
[23:41] <XYZAFFA1R> ok
[23:41] <reisio> XYZAFFA1R: ext4 is the standard FS for GNU/Linux systems these days
[23:41] <rannonga> XYZ: yeah\
[23:41] <reisio> it's like NTFS, but not nearly as awful
[23:42] <zerodivided> wait i think i know what to do
[23:42] <zerodivided> sudo!!!
[23:42] <reisio> zerodivided: yay
[23:42] <rannonga> XYZ: the benefit of manual is you can choose the size you want
[23:42] <XYZAFFA1R> So, one person please, and stop confuzing, I resize windows partition, open windows make sure it works, then install ubuntu on the open space?
[23:42] <zerodivided> yeah that was it
[23:42] <rannonga> xyz: precisely
[23:42] <XYZAFFA1R> That simple?
[23:42] <XYZAFFA1R> No more to it?
[23:42] <reisio> XYZAFFA1R: precisely
[23:42] <rannonga> XYZ: yes
[23:42] <XYZAFFA1R> Ok Uber
[23:42] <reisio> XYZAFFA1R: most likely
[23:42] <Dr_Willis> XYZAFFA1R,  you will install ubuntu into the UNALLOCATED space left over from the resizeing. and you will want 2 partions, one for / and one for swap
[23:43] <XYZAFFA1R> whats the swap?
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> XYZAFFA1R,  once you resize. you can reboot and restart the installer and it should automatically partion the unallocated space as needed. making a / and a swap
[23:43] <XYZAFFA1R> So it does it for me?
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> 'install alongside windows' SHOULD automatically resize and make the 2 partions
[23:43] <XYZAFFA1R> ok
[23:43] <XYZAFFA1R> I will just do that
[23:43] <rantic> Anyone mind letting a newbie know the proper way to switch windows in Unity, is it really to just alt + tab or is there something similar to the peek in gnome 3?
[23:44] <XYZAFFA1R> I will be back after to tell you how it all works out
[23:44] <XYZAFFA1R> Bye!
[23:44] <XYZAFFA1R> Thank you
[23:44] <XYZAFFA1R> Anything else?
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> rantic,  theres alternative windows-switcher plugins for compiz.     then theres the expose plugin and so forth
[23:44] <rannonga> XYZ: no it should work
[23:44] <XYZAFFA1R> Bye then
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> rantic,  explore the 'ccsm' tool to play with the others
[23:45] <reisio> rantic: the top left corner doesn't do anything?
[23:46] <trism> amanda_k: are you using a shared folder (with the host?)
[23:46] <trism> amanda_k: I noticed http://serverfault.com/questions/453826/vagrant-shared-folder-and-file-change-events
[23:47] <trism> amanda_k: although it wouldn't explain why it works when you run coffee manually
[23:47] <sp00ky> I'm using 12.04 and for some reason over about the past week my wireless speeds have become very slow regardless of the wireless network used.  Has anyone experienced anything similar?
[23:47] <reisio> turn off your torrent client
[23:49] <osx5> hey is there a channel to talk about Ubuntu phone?
[23:49] <mikodo> Dr_Willis, I am putting in a SSD for boot and /root installs of multiple linux distros, with a larger platter for symlinking my DATA to the /mnt in each / install. Data on platter drive will be docs/muisic/pics/videos/ . I plan to install Xubuntu (different versions, including testing Alpha/Beta's), Debian Wheezy Xfce and maybe a few other small distros. HOW much should I allocate per partition install of each Root? Would 15 GB for each
[23:49] <mikodo>  be enough? ... Thanks.
[23:49] <reisio> /msg alis list *ubunt*
[23:50] <Dr_Willis> mikodo,  15gb may be to small to do any real work. :) but it depends on the actual jobs you are doing. you may want to put swap and any tmp dirs on the   non-ssd drives as well
[23:50] <mikodo> Dr_Willis, Thank you!
[23:51] <afflicto> Anyone have problems with flickering video and HTML5/css3 stuff?
[23:51] <DWSR> !ddrescue
[23:51] <phong_> good morning guys
[23:52] <goddard> where is my sftp mounts if looking from the command line?
[23:52] <goddard> im using nautilus
[23:53] <jason_hudson> I have a question, I'm not too sure it would fit this channel's topic but it is Ubuntu related. Does "DNE" on Ubuntu's security advisories mean "Does Not Exist"?
[23:54] <trism> goddard: /run/user/username/gvfs/ in recent ubuntus
[23:55] <XYZAFFA1R> Install along side windows isnt an option
[23:55] <rannonga> XYZ: I'm assuming the partitioning was successful?
[23:55] <usr13> Dr_Willis: I think he's talking about 15G just for /
[23:55] <Dr_Willis> most likely because you have 4 partitions allready. and you may need to remove one or more of them
[23:55] <XYZAFFA1R> Really?
[23:56] <usr13> Dr_Willis: And having /home/ on another partition.  Right?
[23:56] <Dr_Willis> 4 primary partion limit.
[23:56] <XYZAFFA1R> Is there any that are unimportant?
[23:56] <kontagious> "this driver is activated but not in use"
[23:56] <Dr_Willis> XYZAFFA1R,  the system recovery partion --- IF You have a backup DVD set
[23:56] <kontagious> hey im trying to use jockey to install drivers but its not working
[23:56] <XYZAFFA1R> I cant task that risk
[23:56] <rannonga> XYZ: I think you should really do it manually
[23:56] <XYZAFFA1R> Is there another way?
[23:56] <Dr_Willis> windows 8 uses a boot partion, and its own actual work partion.  no idea what the other 2 are. one may be a recovery boot partion, and the last the actual recovery data partion
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> XYZAFFA1R,  if you have a dvd recovery set.. then you can revovery from it if needed
[23:57] <kontagious> when i open jockey it says "NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernal module and VDPAU library"
[23:57] <XYZAFFA1R> I dont know if they work.
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> you said you had a set. and a usb recovery thing
[23:57] <kontagious> i am using ati not nvidea
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> boot them and see perhaps?
[23:57] <XYZAFFA1R> No
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> Your HD can die at any time.. so you better hope they work ;)
[23:57] <w30> goddard, I make a symboic link named sammy to my /run/user/kolklay/gvfs gor my convience
[23:58] <w30> gor/for
[23:58] <XYZAFFA1R> I would have to delete the recovery partition to see if they work that way
[23:58] <kline> is there a known reason behind dd (or usb) slowing down on long operations?
[23:58] <usr13> kontagious: "Jockey has been replaced with ubuntu-drivers-common and software-properties"
[23:59] <kontagious> thanks usr13 i will try it