[02:04] <xubuntu963> Hello!  I need help upgrading Ubuntu 8.04 to XUbuntu 12.04
[02:04] <xubuntu963> I would really like to get on Skype with someone who can talk me through it
[02:04] <xubuntu963> Any takers?
[02:05] <Unit193> !eolupgrades
[02:16] <xubuntu963> I am specifically looking to upgrade my EOL Ubuntu 8.04 to XUbuntu 12.04.  I have Xubuntu on a CD.  But don't know what to do next.  I want to make a fresh install of XUbuntu in place of the old Ubuntu system
[02:17] <xubuntu963> I need step-by-step cookbook instructions but everything I'm finding implies knowledge I don't possess.
[02:17] <xubuntu963> Which is why I'd like to Skype chat with someone who can talk me through it
[02:18] <Unit193> Well, it's pretty documented on the wiki, though if you have any targetted questions we're here.
[02:23] <xubuntu963> OK on the Wiki, but not finding any links to specific info on how to do what I want to do
[02:24] <Unit193> !purexfce
[02:25] <maitake> oh wicked link
[02:25] <maitake> i usually go sudo crazy and de-junkify my install
[02:26] <Unit193> Yep, pity it hasn't been updated for raring, and there's generally cruft to clean out from home too.
[02:27] <maitake> yeah it's okay
[02:27] <maitake> mostly under the hood stuff anyway
[02:27] <xubuntu963> this isn't going to work, need to talk to someone live
[02:28] <maitake> for me i've found peace with xubuntu + compiz + docky.. got a super sexy minimalist desktop going right now that is absolutely fantastic to use
[02:28] <maitake> macOS has nothing on this setup
[02:28] <Unit193> xubuntu963: So, would a reinstall with Xubuntu work?
[02:29] <xubuntu963> It probably would, If I had any clue as to how to go about doing it.
[02:30] <xubuntu963> I need the steps one-at-a-time, with everything explained and no prior knowledge assumed because there isn't any
[02:30] <Unit193> Basically, download the ISO, burn to disk, boot, install.
[02:30] <Unit193> !install
[02:30] <xubuntu963> I unstalled Ubuntu in 2006 and upgraded once to 8.04, and haven't done anything like it since
[02:31] <xubuntu963> You're saying !install -- what is that and what do I do with it
[02:31] <Unit193> It's a trigger for the bot to link you to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[02:32] <maitake> I will say that i've had been luck installing Xubuntu rather than doing what I thought would be more ideal: installing ubuntu minimal and sudo apt-get installing xubuntu-desktop
[02:32] <xubuntu963> it is not referring to XUbuntu
[02:33] <xubuntu963> Nobody here is on Skype?
[03:51] <xubuntu326> spanish?
[03:51] <Unit193> !es | xubuntu326
[03:51] <xubuntu326> thanks
[03:52] <Unit193> Sure.
[05:17] <xubuntu516> привет всем. Кто нибудь может посоветовать, как запретить xubuntu включать блютуз при запуске? Я им просто не пользуюсь, а система автоматом включает
[05:17] <Unit193> !ru | xubuntu516
[05:18] <xubuntu516> ок
[06:09] <bitbox> any GRUB/MBR/BIOS gurus in house?
[06:16] <xGrind> bitbox, hi
[09:30] <Noskcaj10> I've somehow accidentally disabled the shortcuts to swap workspaces, How do i find the shortcuts?
[09:32] <cfhowlett> Noskcaj10, settings>Keyboard>Application shortcuts
[09:33] <Noskcaj10> cfhowlett, Since nothing there says "switcher", i assume i deleted them
[09:33] <cfhowlett> Noskcaj10, try resetting to defaults??
[09:34] <Noskcaj10> done, but the switcher shortcuts still don't work
[09:35] <cfhowlett> Noskcaj10, sorry then.  I don't know how to reset, but your shortcuts would be in your /home somewhere ... probably a .hidden file
[09:35] <Noskcaj10> I'll have to keep looking then, thanks
[09:36] <Sysi> Noskcaj10: window manager settings
[09:37] <cfhowlett> Sysi, nice one!  didn't even think to look there.
[09:38] <Noskcaj10> Sysi, thanks, i just realised my problem too. I made the two workspaces stacked, rather than side by side
[09:38] <Sysi> important message http://ubuntuforums.org/announce.html (sorry, it's not about xubuntu support)
[09:38] <Noskcaj10> by now, i think we've all seen that 500 times
[09:39] <Sysi> hope so
[11:56] <akovia> Hi, I keep having troubles with my usb mouse locking up. It could be a hardware issue, (not sure) but I'm looking for a way to reset it without rebooting.
[11:57] <bekks> akovia: Did you change the batteries yet?
[11:57] <akovia> The solution I found by searching was to sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart, but hotplug doesn't exist on my machine
[11:57] <akovia> no batteries
[11:58] <akovia> btw, I'm on 12.04LTS with my mouse plugged directly into my usb
[12:03] <akovia> I wonder why hotplug isn't installed, is this an xubuntu thing? Is there an equivalent command I could try?
[12:05] <bekks> Wasnt hotplug replaced by udev, very long ago?
[12:11] <akovia> i don't know, most info I can find on resetting a mouse only refers to hotplug. I will search using udev and see what I get
[12:14] <akovia> of course ubuntiforums is down =/
[12:15] <knome> akovia, you should be able to access most of the pages cached via google though
[12:15] <akovia> i am, just a pain
[12:16] <akovia> still not getting any hits on just resetting mouse though
[12:16] <akovia> still looking
[12:17] <akovia> what's strange is that my mouse is plugged into my keyboard but it never stops funvtioning
[12:18] <akovia> inserting any usb device after the mouse quits doesn't do anything, no matter what usb port I use
[12:19] <akovia> which leads me to think it's a usb driver problem. resetting it, even if I figure how, is only a temp fix. I wish I could figure out how to troubleshoot it further
[12:20] <bekks> Then your USB bus freaks out, not your mouse.
[12:20] <bekks> Sounds like faulty hardware.
[12:20] <akovia> might be, just curious why everything else in the bus still functions when it happens
[12:30] <UnHolyTerror> akovia, have you tried plugging mouse directly to computer instead?
[12:30] <akovia> Just tried that, guess I won't know anything unless it fails again.
[12:31] <akovia> just wanted to look for a way to recover it if/when it fails since rebooting is such a pita
[12:32] <akovia> guess I can try sudo reload udev
[12:32] <UnHolyTerror> What version xubuntu are you using?
[12:32] <akovia> 12.04lts
[12:33] <UnHolyTerror> Unity?
[12:33] <akovia> no
[12:34] <UnHolyTerror> no, duh... find System->Preferences->Keyboard
[12:34] <akovia> ?
[12:35] <akovia> i'm there
[13:06] <xubuntu077> hi. I cannot install opera browser on xubuntu 13.04.
[13:09] <torax> xubuntu077: what did you tried to do?
[13:09] <xubuntu077> I dowloaded deb package then tried with deb installer , terminal but
[13:09] <xubuntu077> ı cant
[13:10] <xubuntu077> in software center there inst any package of opera too
[13:11] <torax> what happens when you just double-click on the .deb ?
[13:11] <xubuntu077> ıt says broken pack
[13:14] <xubuntu247> hi, is thre anybody around?
[13:15] <baizon> hi xubuntu247
[13:17] <xubuntu247> hi, I was wondering which distribution of ubuntu to download for my old pc. it's ad AMD at aroung 600Mhz (not sure, I need to double check). can you help me?
[13:18] <baizon> xubuntu247: http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ <- there you have "Minimum system requirements"
[13:19] <baizon> xubuntu247: else you can try Lubuntu (system requirements are here-> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu )
[13:21] <xubuntu247> grat thanks :) would it be possible to get ubuntu aswel?
[13:21] <xubuntu247> but main question: may be possible to install it from ad usb device?
[13:22] <baizon> xubuntu247: you can install every *ubuntu from a usb drive
[13:23] <baizon> xubuntu247: not really, you need at least a 700MHz CPU (source: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements )
[13:24] <xubuntu247> ok, no problem! should I boot the system from usb to install it from there? my problem is that I cannot load windows since I forgot the admin password.
[13:25] <baizon> xubuntu247: yes
[13:25] <baizon> you can boot from the usb drive
[13:26] <baizon> but you have to create it first of course
[13:26] <xubuntu247> so I only have to download it and move the dowload to an usb and start the old desktop from the usb drive right?!
[13:28] <baizon> xubuntu247: no, you have to do it like this... http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[13:29] <xubuntu247> wonderful! thanks a million!! :)
[13:30] <baizon> no problem :)
[13:55] <akovia> Thanks for the help UnHolyTerror!
[14:05] <xubuntu592> hello xubuntu kicks a**
[14:05] <knome> !language | xubuntu592
[14:06] <xubuntu592> sorry super bot with chipset brain
[14:07] <xubuntu592> all asleep dudes
[14:07] <xubuntu592> *faaaaaart!!!!!!
[14:08] <xubuntu592> still all asleep????
[14:08] <Unit193> Did you have a support question?
[14:09] <xubuntu592> no sorry, oh yeah gma500 video card i can't get descent playback youtube awfull
[14:10] <xubuntu592> but i know poulsbo and stuff
[14:10] <xubuntu592> but i got the sound problem fix with searches
[14:11] <Unit193> You check for Additional Drivers in the Software Sources application?
[14:12] <xubuntu592> technology asks too much ressources we should reduce ressources instead of making more
[14:13] <knome> xubuntu438, would you please concentrate on the support issues on this channel? if you want to have random chatter, join #xubuntu-offtopic
[14:13] <xubuntu592> no imo xubuntu 13.04 are good just add -vaapi but doesn't fix youtube
[14:15] <xubuntu592> im going off topic
[14:15] <xubuntu438> hello i have intel graphics media accelerator x3100 but i dont have the drivers for xubuntu . can anyone have a download link?
[14:16] <Unit193> xubuntu438: Hey, you should check the Drivers tab of "Software Sources"
[14:17] <xubuntu438> and after that?
[14:24] <UnHolyTerror> xubuntu438, https://01.org/linuxgraphics/
[14:40] <keijo_> how i can give full permissions for Firefox? i need addons etc..
[14:41] <knome> keijo_, you should be able to install addons to firefox from the addons manager normally
[14:45] <keijo_> knome: last night i try xubuntu first time and i couldent
[14:46] <knome> keijo_, what was the error message?
[14:47] <keijo_> i didnt have right to install addons ..
[14:48] <keijo_> im reinstalling now and i try again
[15:10] <keijo_> Plugin findr
[15:11] <keijo_> i go to youtube, install missing plugins, Plugin Finder Service2
[15:11] <keijo_> searching and searching nothing happen
[15:17] <keijo_> only option is to cancell
[15:19] <keijo_> i go to adobe Flash Player download page there is APT for UB
[15:19] <keijo_> Ubuntu 10.04+
[15:30] <xubuntu247> him I have a little doubt: may I download an ubuntu distribution on my laptop with windows vista and install it ot remove the windows OS? or I can only do it by a bootable dvd?
[15:32] <TheSheep> !install | xubuntu247
[15:42] <keijo_> how to install oracle java
[15:43] <baizon> keijo_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[16:04] <keijo_> how i can make panel 2 like osx
[16:05] <peyam> keijo_, google
[16:07] <peyam> keijo_, http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2008/02/15/design-your-own-desktop-with-xfce-44-part-2/
[17:14] <xubuntu849> hello a silly question but it is possible to make a xubuntu usb live and have the possibility to act as a partition where i can save my changes to some applications or store a few files in the reamining free space of usb?
[17:17] <Riley> xubuntu849 yes
[17:17] <Riley> you can use unetbootin to do that
[17:18] <xubuntu849> i know the tool but i mean i dont have to make any special setting right? i am choosing the iso of xubuntu
[17:18] <xubuntu849> and the usb storage stick
[17:19] <Riley> no theres just an option in unetbootin were u can allocate space seperatly
[17:20] <Riley> so any changes u make witht the live cd will stick when you reboot
[17:20] <xubuntu849> oh thank you so much ;) i ll check it then!
[17:21] <Riley> just make sure the usb is formated to fat32 or ext
[17:22] <xubuntu849> yeah i know it...it is formated to fat32 but maybe better to format it at ext4 via my install xubuntu on another laptop?by they way how i am doing it this? :P
[17:23] <Riley> fat32 is fine
[17:24] <xubuntu849> ok thank you ;)
[17:42] <keijo_> how to make xfce in xubuntu more beatiful easyly
[17:43] <keijo_> dock
[17:43] <xubuntu849> you can try cairo dock application but you have to remove your bottom panel of xfce
[17:43] <Riley> http://imgur.com/LPNDC9b
[17:44] <Riley> ^^
[17:44] <xubuntu849> omg how you made it like this? lol
[17:46] <Riley> cairodock and conkys
[17:49] <Riley> theres several videos and tutoirals on how to theme xfce keijo_
[17:50] <keijo_> im logged as root in terminal tell me commands
[17:50] <hplc> started up xubuntu as live cd, want to install, but first setup raid0, on the 2 HDDs, how do i do that?
[17:50] <keijo_> if you can help
[17:50] <Riley> its not that simple lol
[17:51] <keijo_> :)
[17:58] <knome> keijo_, tell you what commands?
[18:05] <keijo_> knome: i want make my dock more beatifull
[18:06] <keijo_> somethink like this
[18:06] <keijo_> http://i.imgur.com/LPNDC9b.jpg
[18:06] <KombuchaKip> To everyone: Ubuntu Forums hacked: http://ubuntuforums.org/announce.html
[18:08] <Myrtti> people who care about the forums probably have already noticed ;-)
[18:08] <Riley> keijo_ please stop pming people without asking and demanding to tell you commands
[18:12] <hplc> hacked? in what way? graphics changed?
[18:12] <Riley> passwords and accounts were compromised
[18:13] <hplc> so it was not meant to offend and or ridicule?
[18:13] <Riley> they stole passwords
[18:14] <hplc> how can that be detected so fast?
[18:14] <hplc> i.e less than a day?
[18:15] <knome> ok, enough of the forums discussion
[18:15] <knome> the forums domain tell you what you need to know
[18:15] <Riley> thank you knome
[18:15] <Riley> are there not any mods in this channel
[18:16] <Myrtti> sure there are
[18:18] <keijo_> moi Myrtti
[18:19] <keijo_> Suomi Finland PERKELE
[18:19] <knome> keijo_, english only; and please watch your language. consider this the last warning.
[18:19] <keijo_> =) ok
[18:20] <Myrtti> tsktsk
[18:20] <knome> keijo_, i have no idea what dock that is - you might want to google for docks that work with xfce
[18:21] <keijo_> knome: panel 2
[18:21] <keijo_> i want make it more cool
[18:21] <Riley> knome its cairo
[18:21] <Myrtti> also
[18:21] <Myrtti> !fi
[18:22] <keijo_> thnx
[18:23] <keijo_> where is linus torvalds
[18:23] <knome> !offtopic | keijo_
[19:02] <Riley> woe
[19:02] <Riley> net split
[19:45] <xubuntu247> hi all,
[19:46] <xubuntu247> I'm trying to install xubuntu via usb created with unetbootin, but it doesn't work: I get a black screen with some letters flashing on it and the boot doesn't gets stuck
[19:47] <xubuntu247> has anybody ever experienced this behaviour?
[19:49] <Riley> xubuntu247 was that u here earlier
[19:49] <xubuntu247> yes
[19:49] <Riley> on unetbootin did it boot to the live cd there should be a feew options
[19:49] <xubuntu247> it's me... still trying
[19:50] <Riley> witch iso did u use
[19:51] <xubuntu247> xubuntu 12.4 or something!
[19:51] <xubuntu247> I selected one I had previously downloaded myself
[19:51] <Riley> oh
[19:52] <Riley> was the usb formated before u ran unetbootin
[19:52] <xubuntu247> yep: FAT32
[19:53] <nukke> xubuntu247: you can try using Universal USB Installer. it's a freeware program similar to Unetbootin, but a bit more straightforward.
[19:55] <xubuntu247> does it run on win2000?
[19:55] <nukke> xubuntu247: yes. here's the website: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[19:56] <nukke> xubuntu247: sorry, it doesn't work with Windows 2000. I read wrong.
[19:56] <xubuntu247> ah!!...no problem. I had already tried it.
[19:58] <xubuntu247> I don't know it might depend on the booting system: my BIOS offers me to boot from USB FDD or USB ZIP. none of these works!
[19:59] <xubuntu247> any suggestions?
[19:59] <Riley> or win32 usb
[19:59] <Riley> it should have a 32bit version
[19:59] <Riley> man so i guess freenodes still getting atacked
[19:59] <Riley> do you have a blank dvd xubuntu247
[19:59] <xubuntu247> unfortunately not right know. I need to double check but I believe not.
[20:00] <Riley> that must be an ancient computer
[20:01] <xubuntu247> quite a bit! eh eh eh ;)
[20:01] <xubuntu247> but good news: I have found a DVD RW and I have an external DVD burner!!
[20:02] <Riley> nice
[20:02] <Riley> i still have a couple ubuntu 10.04 cds lol
[20:51] <pytr0n> Hello everyone! I was hoping somebody could help me with Geany. I installed version 0.21 and installed themes for Syntax highlighting as the README describes, but I have no idea how to select the theme. Could somebody explain to me how I change the color scheme?
[21:33] <TheLordOfTime> where's the user's trash directory stored in Xubuntu?
[21:33] <TheLordOfTime> in Ubuntu, it's ~/.local/share/Trash/* but I am curious what it is in Xubuntu
[21:33] <Unit193> .local/share/Trash/
[21:34] <TheLordOfTime> Unit193:  within the user's home directory, right?
[21:34] <Unit193> Of course.
[21:34] <TheLordOfTime> such that /home/$USER/.local/share/Trash/*
[21:34] <TheLordOfTime> hmmmmm
[21:35] <TheLordOfTime> Unit193:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/322687/theres-a-file-in-my-trash-that-cant-be-deleted <-- any ideas then?
[21:35] <TheLordOfTime> because they say said folder there is missing
[22:01] <xubuntu743> Can anyone help? I want to know how to make my fonts look like they do in Windows.
[22:01] <bekks> xubuntu743: We dont know how they look in Windows :)
[22:02] <xubuntu743> :/
[22:02] <nukke> can you be more specific?
[22:03] <xubuntu743> EVERYTHING uses the default font, even on websites.. That isn't what I want.
[22:03] <knome> xubuntu743, rather than telling what you don't want, what if you told what you want?
[22:04] <bekks> knome: "something else" :)
[22:05] <SunStar> 96 dpi Segoe UI 9pt regular
[22:05] <bekks> Then configure your system to use that specific font.
[22:07] <xubuntu743> What i'm trying to say is that when browsing websites, only the default font is used for everything, and not the MS web core fonts I installed.
[22:07] <SunStar> if the website doesnt specify a particular font then it uses system default font, you can change the system fonts, you can also change the fonts and colors in your browser's prefrences
[22:07] <knome> xubuntu743, you can change the firefox preferences to change that behavior if you wish
[22:08] <knome> font rendering will most probably be an exact match with windows though
[22:08] <knome> (even if one used the same fonts)
[22:11] <xubuntu743> I've tried in firefox, and chrome. Still the same results. I'm not trying to pester, it's just I don't understand what the problem is.
[22:11] <knome> as i said, font rendering most probably differs whatsoever
[22:12] <knome> i'm pretty confident you can't have 100% the exact same looks
[22:14] <xubuntu743> Well, thanks anyway..
[22:14] <knome> xubuntu743, it isn't a solution, but my suggestion is to not worry too much about it - you'll get used to it
[22:14] <xubuntu743> I suppose.
[22:16] <SunStar> perhaps you should file a bug report on the issue?
[22:17] <knome> if he's changed the default fonts in firefox as the MS fonts, there's no bug
[22:17] <knome> it's as much a bug as "there's no C:-drive in xubuntu"
[22:18] <SunStar> firefox has a bug reporting system as well. ubuntu is not special.
[22:18] <knome> SunStar, no, but firefox can't affect ubuntu's font rendering
[22:19] <SunStar> i suppose i'm just not understanding the issue as you are
[22:20] <knome> as far as i know, font rendering on same firefox version in windows an linux differs
[22:20] <knome> sure, you can use the saem font and it looks pretty much the same
[22:21] <SunStar> sounds to me like xubuntu743 is changing the font, and the font, and the correct font is not being displayed
[22:21] <knome> but there's no way to make sure the rendering is exactly the same - which in most cases is the reason why people think there's something wrong with the  fonts
[22:21] <nukke> xubuntu743: have you tried changing the Xfce font settings?
[22:24] <keijo_> i installed cairo-dock and i cant see firefox fullscreen
[22:24] <keijo_> there is under space
[22:24] <xubuntu743> the xfce font settings are the only settings i've changed. I've changed nothing in either browser. They should allow the website to display their own fonts by default. Which is my concern.
[22:24] <knome> xubuntu743, if a website defines fonts, they are able to use them
[22:25] <knome> xubuntu743, they can also define "sans" or "sans-serif", which in the xubuntu firefox fall back to non-MS fonts
[22:26] <knome> xubuntu743, that's why you should also see firefox's font settings, if you want sites to be able to use MS-fonts even when they use "sans", "sans-serif" etc
[22:28] <keijo_> i installed cairo-dock and i cant see firefox fullscreen, there is under free space, i want full screen
[22:29] <knome> !patience | keijo_
[22:32] <xubuntu743> I'll figure it out, if not, it's not a big deal.
[22:32] <knome> xubuntu743, good luck
[22:37] <xubuntu743> Anyway, can I get a login manager like this http://i.imgur.com/61BiC3v.png ? It's slim, isn't it?
[22:37] <knome> if you find such theme for lightdm, sure
[22:39] <xubuntu743> I can't use slim instead of lightdm?
[22:39] <knome> um, right. most probably, yes
[22:39] <knome> the first thing i'd check is if it's in the repositories
[22:39] <knome> if not, it can get a bit harder
[22:47] <Guest62589> nick
[22:48] <Guest62589> exit
[23:23] <keijo_> i need software to download from youtube
[23:25] <lderan> keijo_, im sure you could find ways to do that on google, if the video isn't of copyrighted content that is
[23:25] <lderan> also a bit offtopic
[23:30] <xubuntu557> i have xubuntu going in on a 4gb ssd, it is fitting okay!
[23:30] <SunStar> keijo_,  have you tried a site like www.keepvid.com ?
[23:30] <xubuntu557> wat?
[23:48] <keijo_> =)