[04:47] <pitti> Good morning
[04:52] <darkxst> hey pitti
[04:54] <pitti> hey darkxst, how are you?
[04:54] <darkxst> quite sore, after a weekend full of caving!
[04:55] <pitti> hah, but sounds fun! (unless you get lost)
[05:04] <darkxst> yeh was lots of fun, and no we didnt get lost ;)
[05:21] <jbicha> the hud really doesn't like having hundreds of bookmarks in Firefox
[05:22] <jbicha> I'm a bit of a hoarder, I had over 3000 bookmarks
[07:39] <sil2100> didrocks: hello! Are you ready for some ACKs ;) ?
[07:39] <didrocks> sil2100: hey, hum, sure, but on what exactly as I published most of the things ready? :)
[07:39] <didrocks> already*
[07:40] <sil2100> didrocks: media finished!
[07:40] <sil2100> didrocks: oh, platform doesn't need an ACK
[07:40] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[07:40] <didrocks> sil2100: yeah, media just finished ;)
[07:40] <didrocks> salut seb128
[07:40] <seb128> hey didrocks & sil2100
[07:40] <sil2100> Hi seb128
[07:40] <didrocks> sil2100: we still needs apps, which is the #1 for webbrowser :)
[07:40] <sil2100> didrocks: I also re-ran unity powerpc, since it failed on an unit test
[07:41] <didrocks> sil2100: the tests failed for unity, timeout btw
[07:41] <didrocks> sil2100: I've published platform as well: one flacky test
[07:41] <sil2100> didrocks: ah, so I re-ran it without no reason
[07:41] <sil2100> didrocks: since I re-ran it with foo to have it green and check passed ;)
[07:42]  * sil2100 didn't know anyone else was doing the stacks
[07:42] <sil2100> didrocks: btw. should I also take care of mirslave in the morning? Or is it something i shouldn't touch right now?
[07:42] <didrocks> sil2100: well, it should just bypass everything on platform if you rerun it and it was published :)
[07:42] <didrocks> sil2100: don't touch on mir/mirslave, this is for robert_ancell :)
[07:43] <didrocks> sil2100: I just tried to ensure we have everything from the week-end published for today's image
[07:43] <didrocks> so kind of "exception for the rule"
[07:43] <didrocks> so that we get all tests results on the phone for rickspencer3 to crack the whip :)
[07:43] <sil2100> didrocks: ACK ;) http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Media/job/cu2d-media-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_qtubuntu-cameraplugin-fake_0.1.10+13.10.20130722-0ubuntu1.diff <- this change you requested yourself, so I guess I can publish?
[07:44] <didrocks> sil2100: yeah, +1 ;)
[07:45] <didrocks> sil2100: oh, webapps seems in a good shape today :)
[07:45] <sil2100> didrocks: waiting on Apps, as for unity... I see we had 17 failures on the other machine, which sounds nice
[07:45] <sil2100> didrocks: so maybe, just maybe, we could publish anyway?
[07:45] <didrocks> sil2100: right, but the timeout on the other machines seem to tell that there is still this dbus issue
[07:45] <didrocks> right?
[07:46] <didrocks> and 17 is still way higher than old results which was ~9 when we last published it
[07:46] <sil2100> didrocks: could be, let me poke mhr3 again, but it's a bit sad that last successful unity release was 14 days ago ;(
[07:47] <didrocks> sil2100: yeah, I agree, let's check with him and then, we can decide?
[07:47] <didrocks> sil2100: also maybe deciphering if the failures are false positive or not?
[07:47] <sil2100> didrocks: makes sense ;)
[07:47] <didrocks> you have videos btw ;)
[07:47] <sil2100> Yay! Finally \o/ I wonder how the low FPS looks in the vids
[07:47] <didrocks> (6 fps to keep the recording light, with diff instead of full screenshot)
[07:47]  * sil2100 checks
[07:47] <didrocks> sil2100: we have that for several days actually :)
[07:50] <sil2100> didrocks: hooo, I just opened one of the videos and it seems to have found a real regression ;) But anyway, those vids look pretty good, not so fluid but good
[07:51] <didrocks> sil2100: I think 6 fps is still good enough to see transitions and if things behave badly :)
[07:51] <didrocks> and nice to catch real issues!
[08:00] <darkxst> seb128, hi
[08:00] <seb128> darkxst, hey
[08:00] <darkxst> would it be ok to land this patch https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=701613
[08:00] <ubot2`> Gnome bug 701613 in gtk "XEmbed doesn't work with frame-synced GTK/Mutter" [Critical,Unconfirmed]
[08:00] <darkxst> it hasnt been committed yet, but it fixes a very annoying bug'
[08:00] <seb128> hum, not before it gets commited and gets some testing
[08:03] <darkxst> seb128, right, I figured that would be the case, but as it stands now, the lock screen when using lightdm/gnome-shell is completely frozen
[08:03] <Laney> morning!
[08:04] <seb128> darkxst, seems we still don't delay update to new versions enough... ;-)
[08:04] <seb128> Laney, good morning! how are you? had a good w.e?
[08:06] <Laney> seb128: yeah pretty good, mostly spent in cafes and pubs :P
[08:06] <Laney> you?
[08:06] <seb128> quite good, spent it mostly inside as well, it was getting really hot outside
[08:06] <darkxst> I don't know if anyone else is using Xembed/gtkplug with mutter, and gnome-screensaver is unmaintained after all
[08:07] <Laney> ah mine was the opposite - the hot weather has gone away a bit :(
[08:08] <didrocks> sil2100: hum, publishing apps FYI
[08:13] <rickspencer3> hi ivanka!
[08:13] <ivanka> hi rickspencer3!
[08:13] <ivanka> rickspencer3, how are you? And, are you supposed to be awake at this hour?
[08:13] <sil2100> didrocks: ah, it finished? ACK, thanks :)
[08:13] <rickspencer3> :)
[08:13] <rickspencer3> ivanka, I decided to never sleep so that I can ask for status reports around the clock
[08:13] <didrocks> sil2100: hey, what about the location stuff?
[08:14] <didrocks> sil2100: didn't you have a component I preNEWed?
[08:14] <rickspencer3> (actually,  I am in Europe for a little bit, so it's 10:13am here in Berlin :) )
[08:14] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:14] <rickspencer3> ivanka, where are you?
[08:14] <ivanka> rickspencer3, ah - makes slightly more sense than not sleeping
[08:14] <ivanka> ivanka, I am in London
[08:14] <sil2100> didrocks: I think everything landed, since you pre-newed indicator-location and I see it in the archive
[08:14] <czajkowski> folks on saucy , has your battery indicator vanished?
[08:15] <didrocks> sil2100: ah, it's not in the location stack, ok!
[08:15] <seb128> czajkowski, it did for larsu who is debugging
[08:15] <didrocks> sil2100: I prenewed unity-webapps-qml FYI
[08:15] <didrocks> sil2100: I think you can publish webapps
[08:15] <sil2100> \o/
[08:15] <czajkowski> seb128: grand job I don't need to report :)
[08:15] <czajkowski> I'll affect me if I find the bug
[08:15] <sil2100> didrocks: publishing
[08:15] <czajkowski> cheers
[08:16] <sil2100> didrocks: what about the MIR stack ;)?
[08:16] <didrocks> 09:42:46     didrocks | sil2100: don't touch on mir/mirslave, this is for robert_ancell :)
[08:17] <sil2100> ...same for unity8? ;)
[08:17] <didrocks> yep, unity8 no more manual publish until Saviq gives the green light
[08:17] <sil2100> o>
[08:17] <didrocks> that's why the manual publication is forced on them ;)
[08:25] <seb128> pitti, salut
[08:25] <seb128> pitti, is there any known issue with upower in saucy? (it seems to "hang" sometimes)
[08:38] <larsu> czajkowski: seems to be a rare case of upower hanging. Killing upowerd and `killall unity-panel-service` should fix it. I've reported it as bug #1203655
[08:38] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1203655 in upower (Ubuntu) "Hangs in pthread_join in libusb_exit" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1203655
[08:39] <seb128> pitti, ^ that's the issue I was pinging about, I ran into it on friday as well ...
[08:39] <czajkowski> larsu: lovely thanks, happened me yesterday on suspend and came back to now power icon which kinda bit me in the rear later as I didnt see I hadn't any batter left.  This morning on start up no battery.
[08:41] <larsu> czajkowski: ya, same for me :)  Do you know how to reproduce it?
[08:41] <czajkowski> larsu: besides suspending and hoping when I come back for no battery power :)
[08:42] <larsu> czajkowski: I suspended a couple of times just now, with usb devices attached, and I couldn't reproduce it
[08:42] <larsu> oh well, I'll keep an eye on it
[08:43] <czajkowski> hate those kinda bugs
[08:43] <czajkowski> they exist but you can't trigger tem
[08:43] <czajkowski> *them
[08:43] <czajkowski> this morning I've no power icon on start up which is weird
[08:44] <seb128> hum, neither upower nor libusb changed for months
[08:45] <czajkowski> seb128: if you can tell me how to debug it or give you any information I cna try no meetings for the next hour
[08:46] <seb128> czajkowski, I don't atm, but thanks
[08:46] <czajkowski> np
[08:46] <seb128> czajkowski, larsu and I ran into the issue recently as well so it seems like it's "easy enough to trigger"
[08:46] <seb128> not trivial, but it's likely we are going to hit it again during the week
[08:46] <seb128> so if debugging is needed, let's see
[09:00] <sil2100> didrocks: as for the skip-all modification I proposed - so, how would you prefer the internals to look besides creating the all.arch.ignore? Would it be better if we handled the case separately in the jenkins skip job?
[09:02] <didrocks> sil2100: yeah, I think you need to write a cu2d script which is going to grab all .projects file and creates a .ignore for each of them
[09:02] <didrocks> sil2100: try to make it generic so that is supports one components, multiple components, one arch, multiple arch and all :)
[09:03] <sil2100> didrocks: ah, so you don't want a 'single ignore file for all projects'?
[09:04] <didrocks> sil2100: yeah, that's what we discussed on Friday IIRC
[09:41] <sil2100> didrocks: will work on that in a free moment then ;) Right now I'll deal with unity issues and unity-mir
[09:41] <didrocks> sil2100: sounds like the right priority :)
[09:41] <seb128> Laney, oh, you are piloting ... can you look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1059449 during your shift?
[09:41] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1059449 in OEM Priority Project "Set "Airplane Mode" On, Bluetooth still work properly ." [Medium,Confirmed]
[09:42] <Laney> ok
[09:42] <Laney> feed back that they should subscribe ubuntu-sponsors though
[09:45] <seb128> Laney, k
[09:45] <Laney> merci!
[09:45] <seb128> Laney, thanks for looking at it ;-)
[09:45] <Laney> I always end up with too many tabs while sponsoring
[09:46]  * Laney gets confused
[10:04] <Laney> seb128: bug #408903: no-change rebuild of libx11 to precise-proposed?
[10:04] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 408903 in xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu Raring) "Does not handle microphone mute button (KEY_MICMUTE)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/408903
[10:04] <seb128> Laney, yes
[10:05] <Laney> ok
[10:05] <seb128> thanks ;-)
[10:05] <seb128> sorry I forgot about this one
[10:05] <Laney> np, it's on the list
[10:05] <Laney> it's one of those ones you open up and see the millions of tasks and comments
[10:05] <Laney> scary
[10:25] <pitti> seb128: bonjour (excusez-moi, j'ai été dans un meeting)
[10:25] <pitti> seb128: not know to me
[10:25] <pitti> seb128: we got a new libusb a few days ago, maybe that triggered it?
[10:29] <seb128> pitti, hey, pas de problème, ça va bien ?
[10:29] <seb128> pitti, oh, we did?
[10:29] <pitti> seb128: yeah, caused some trouble in umockdev, that's how I noticed
[10:29] <seb128> pitti, the most recent libusb upload was early june
[10:29] <pitti> seb128: libusbx
[10:29] <pitti> that's the -1.0
[10:29] <seb128> oh
[10:30] <pitti> libusb is ancient and should die
[10:30] <seb128> right
[10:30] <seb128> so yeah, that's likely that update
[10:31] <seb128> upower didn't change for a while and those locks are in libusb code
[13:34] <didrocks> sil2100: hey, did you get any progress on unity?
[13:41] <sil2100> didrocks: working on it
[13:42] <sil2100> Aaaah, you mean unity like lp:unity? :)
[13:42] <didrocks> yep
[13:44] <sil2100> I'm still downloading the right .otto for the compiz crash, but in the meantime I restarted the unity stack with the 2 reverts that mhr3 made
[13:46] <kenvandine> fginther, did you see this yet?
[13:46] <kenvandine> https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/cupstream2distro-config/click/+merge/176007
[13:46] <kenvandine> fginther, there was a typo in the CI section
[13:50] <fginther> kenvandine, mhm. I really need to get work on some config validation tools.
[13:50] <kenvandine> hehe
[13:51] <kenvandine> fginther, please let me know when the config is updated so i can tell them to stop manually merging...
[13:51] <kenvandine> they worked all weekend... so i told them to just do manual merges
[14:15] <desrt> hi hackers
[14:18] <didrocks> sil2100: feel free to self-approve once you fixed https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/cupstream2distro-config/nohud_no_daily/+merge/175860
[14:21] <mhr3> tedg, morning, could you take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mhr3/dbus-test-runner/watch-pipes-for-hup/+merge/176092 pls?
[14:22] <mterry> didrocks, got any MIR time soon?  A bunch have come in
[14:22] <didrocks> mterry: the MIR for Mir, right? :p
[14:22] <mterry> didrocks, that's part of it, yeah
[14:23] <didrocks> mterry: I'm still behind on one of them, but as I'm orchestrating those, not sure I should MIR them
[14:23] <mterry> didrocks, there are non-Mir ones too
[14:23] <didrocks> mterry: TBH, don't expect anything before the next 2 weeks (I'm on the IoM then)
[14:23] <didrocks> and still don't have the time to do what I should do for touch
[14:24] <didrocks> but if it's not urgent, that's fine, please assign :)
[14:24] <tedg> mhr3, Sure, let me look
[14:24] <mterry> didrocks, OK, I'll handle
[14:31] <tedg> mhr3, not sure why that test is failing in Jenkins, going to rebuild to see if it was transient
[14:32] <mhr3> tedg, funnily enough that branch was trying to fix those issues :P
[14:32] <tedg> mhr3, Yeah :-)
[14:32] <mhr3> but it's more focused on the process part of it, didn't check the service too much
[14:33] <tedg> Reality is that we're using it to do process management.  Curious whether we should do something like create a custom upstart session instead.
[14:33] <tedg> Upstart will always do process management better than I will :-)
[14:33] <mhr3> tedg, but i find the test kinda broken, it's not doing much really, spawning a cat and a true, shouldn't something test whether there's an active dbus socket?
[14:34] <seb128> Laney, what panel are you working on atm?
[14:34] <Laney> background
[14:34] <Laney> doing the schema thing
[14:35] <seb128> Laney, ok ... you mentioned phone-app and date&time last week iirc, did you start/pick one of those?
[14:35] <Laney> i'll pick datetime next
[14:35] <seb128> ok
[14:35] <seb128> I'm going to do some of the phone app UI work then
[14:35] <tedg> mhr3, Yeah, I was more trying to check if the process died, but that'd be better for sure.
[14:36] <seb128> "phone settings" rather
[14:36] <Laney> seb128: I did pick phone but didn't get very far on it
[14:36] <seb128> Laney, did you get blocked on something or just decide to go for something else?
[14:36] <Laney> because I don't think there's any backend there or e.g. the dialpad
[14:36] <Laney> I'll give you what I did if you want to build on it
[14:36] <seb128> Laney, yes please, mp it maybe?
[14:37] <Laney> don't think it's ready for that
[14:37] <Laney> lp:~laney/ubuntu-system-settings/phone-panel
[14:37] <seb128> Laney, I just want to get some of the UI work done, I'm a bit blocked on backend for the stuff that already there until we get gsettings
[14:37] <seb128> Laney, ok, I'm going to pick up on this one, thanks
[14:38] <Laney> I keep confusing myself on this background thing
[14:41] <seb128> Laney, what's the issue?
[14:42] <Laney> there's this logic about remembering which screen was changed last
[14:42] <Laney> trying to express it in a decent way
[14:43] <Laney> bah, I guess what I already MPed is alright for now
[14:44] <seb128> Laney, yeah, don't spend too much time on details like that, we have enough to do ;-)
[14:44]  * seb128 shrug
[14:45] <seb128> seems like there is no easy way to get a directory size in qt
[14:45] <seb128> I'm going to wait for the file-manager-app guys to add the feature and copy it or something ;-)
[14:47] <seb128> Laney, what's the deal with the ";" ... are we supposed to use them in js functions? was it working without those?
[14:47] <Laney> kaleo told me to use them
[14:47] <seb128> ok
[14:49] <tedg> mhr3, No clue why, but amd64 on raring still dislikes your branch :-/
[14:49] <tedg> mhr3, At least it is recreatable now ;-)
[14:49] <mhr3> tedg, same issue?
[14:50] <tedg> mhr3, Yea
[15:01] <mhr3> tedg, how about http://paste.ubuntu.com/5900869/ ?
[15:03] <tedg> mhr3, In general I'm okay with that, but I think it'll break a bunch of people that have hardcoded :1.1 or :1.2 in their tests :-/
[15:03] <tedg> mhr3, I think we'd have to check the connection in the test.
[15:03] <mhr3> tedg, hmm, there might a simpler way then, don't open the connection, just try to parse the address
[15:04] <mhr3> but then it feels like just fixing the test
[15:04] <tedg> Yeah, not sure, but I'm pretty sure that'll break people.
[15:04] <mhr3> otoh it will catch some extra stuff
[15:04] <tedg> not that people should be doing it... but...
[15:05] <mhr3> tedg, why would it break someone?
[15:07] <tedg> mhr3, Doing the connection directly and incrementing the connection counter.
[15:10] <mhr3> but after it's replaced by a simple g_dbus_is_supported_address()
[15:11] <tedg> Sure, that'd be fine.
[15:11] <mhr3> k, changing
[15:14] <kenvandine> fginther, did you get a chance to reconfigure those click ci jobs?
[15:21] <fginther> kenvandine, sorry about that
[15:21] <Laney> seb128: I'm killing the semicolons :P
[15:23] <seb128> Laney, ;-)
[15:23] <Laney> it's style from the sdk that we don't necessarily need to follow i guess
[15:24] <seb128> right
[15:24] <seb128> our style is to not use those :p
[15:26] <fginther> kenvandine, deployed
[15:26] <kenvandine> fginther, thx
[15:43] <Laney> one day
[15:43] <Laney> I'll write a Column and remember to give it dimensions straight away
[15:45] <bcurtiswx> who here understands the most about the sound system?
[15:45] <seb128> TheMuso and diwic I guess
[15:47] <bcurtiswx> TheMuso diwic, what would stop the sound system from recognizing USB audio devices (lsusb shows them)
[16:53]  * didrocks waves good evening
[17:05] <tedg> cyphermox, Hey, so I picked up a Huawei USB GSM modem.
[17:06] <cyphermox> tedg: ok
[17:06] <tedg> cyphermox, When I do "nmcli d" it shows up twice.
[17:06] <cyphermox> err?
[17:06] <cyphermox> twice?
[17:06] <cyphermox> how?
[17:07] <tedg> Like this: /huawei_0  gsm               disconnected
[17:07] <tedg>  /hfp/9027E4ED59DF_38ECE482A6D9 gsm               disconnected
[17:07] <cyphermox> heh
[17:07] <cyphermox> nice.
[17:08] <cyphermox> can you send me exact USB ID? I'll look at the code, you should only get it once
[17:08] <seb128> Laney, you pushed an update for your gsetting work, is that ready to review? (I wish launchpad would do a bit better at emailing about updated, I just noticed through the CI which validated the update)
[17:08] <cyphermox> tedg: not that it will really break anything ATM though if you see it twice
[17:08] <Laney> seb128: yeah but I just remembered I forgot to make it [17:08] <Laney> shall I do that?
[17:08] <tedg> cyphermox, Okay, just checking to see if I had something installed wrong.
[17:08] <tedg> cyphermox, Here is the ID: Bus 002 Device 006: ID 12d1:1003 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E220 HSDPA Modem / E230/E270/E870 HSDPA/HSUPA Modem
[17:09] <cyphermox> it's probably not installed wrong, most likely two plugins are competing to control it because it's a modem we don't often see
[17:10] <tedg> Ah, okay.
[17:13] <seb128> Laney, your call, in practice I don't think it makes a difference, it's not likely we are going to have issues to value matchings and not the object types there
[17:14] <Laney> ok, I'll do it if I touch there again
[17:16] <seb128> Laney, btw, easy one if you feel like doing a one liner review: https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/storage-get-free-space/+merge/176170
[17:17] <Laney> yep, I'll do it before I go
[17:17] <Laney> dbussing atm for timedated
[17:17] <seb128> ok, thanks
[23:08] <popey> well delightful. latest update to saucy has made it so my laptop (x220) can only do 1024x768
[23:13] <popey> hmm, its dropped to vesa i think
[23:13] <popey>  3516 alan      20   0 2081m 391m  37m R 138.6  5.0   7:18.29 compiz
[23:13] <popey> nice
[23:23] <popey> just the man.. RAOF if you have a moment could you please look at bug 1203901 ? I'm at OSCON and my laptop has flipped to 1024x768 after the latest updates ☹
[23:23] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1203901 in xorg (Ubuntu) "desktop 1024x768 vesa mode on intel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1203901
[23:26] <RAOF> popey: Commented on the bug; enjoy!
[23:34] <popey> RAOF: wow.. i have had that there for ~months