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| pitti | Good morning | 04:44 |
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| pitti | slangasek: udev sru> wiki page says "one week without a regression report" (of which we didn't get any, I'm subscribed to udev bugs) | 04:45 |
| pitti | slangasek: lp retracers> mostly me; unfortunately the failure cron mail sometimes doesn't get set, so I don't notice errors often | 04:45 |
| pitti | slangasek: restarting i386 one, it indeed was crashed | 04:46 |
| pitti | gdb segfaulted, yay | 04:46 |
| pitti | slangasek: we don't stop them on transient LP bugs any more, I fixed that ages ago | 04:48 |
| pitti | but for anything unexpected we do, but I need to get told about them | 04:48 |
| pitti | slangasek: so the uninvestigated issue is "sometimes cron mail doesn't get sent" :/ | 04:48 |
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| robert_ancell | pitti, I think I remember you complaining about the autotools tests no longer producing output on server builds - did you ever come up with a clever solution for that? | 05:08 |
| robert_ancell | The dreaded see tests/test-suite.log which you can't see | 05:09 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: for umockdev I just switched back to the serial test runner | 05:11 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, what is the incantation for that? | 05:11 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: for debian/rules you might use something like "dh_auto_test || { cat testsuite.log; exit 1 } | 05:11 |
| pitti | but that's unwieldy for upstream | 05:11 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, ah, I was trying to do that but my shell-fu failed me | 05:12 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: add "serial-tests" to AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE | 05:12 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: but hang on, I actually removed that again, as with that you can't build on automake 1.11 and older any more | 05:12 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: so now I don't use the AM test runner at all, and do it by hand: https://github.com/martinpitt/umockdev/commit/25c46869f18 | 05:13 |
| cjwatson | I think the parallel runner is enough of a good thing that it's worth small workarounds such as the above || { ... } hack to continue being able to use it. | 05:18 |
| pitti | I didn't find an equivalent for that for upstream Makefile.am, though | 05:18 |
| robert_ancell | cjwatson, yeah, I like it too :) | 05:18 |
| cjwatson | pitti: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/automake/2013-06/msg00051.html ? | 05:19 |
| cjwatson | Though I guess that requires that target to be invoked explicitly | 05:20 |
| pitti | the "display-testsuite-logs" looks like a manual one | 05:21 |
| pitti | and "require am >= 1.12" is not an option | 05:21 |
| pitti | as I want this to work in daily PPA builds | 05:21 |
| pitti | and also don't fend off developers on stable releases | 05:21 |
| cjwatson | pitti: Actually, doesn't VERBOSE = yes work for you? AFAICT it only doesn't work for James' quite specialised requirement that he wants to show the test log even for passed tests | 05:28 |
| pitti | cjwatson: I'll try that (need to run off for a bit) | 05:29 |
| TheMuso` | c | 05:33 |
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| dupondje | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1203211 => Somebody can check this out ? :) | 06:00 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1203211 in linux (Ubuntu) "Modprobe doesn't recognize any parameters on 3.10.0-4" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 06:00 |
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| pitti | cjwatson: adding "VERBOSE = yes" to Makefile.am has no visible effect here | 06:37 |
| pitti | "make check VERBOSE=yes" seems to help, though | 06:38 |
| pitti | ah, "export VERBOSE = yes" helps | 06:39 |
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| cjwatson | Right, it's used as a shell variable not a make variable | 06:41 |
| pitti | wgrant_: hm, still nothing on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+language-packs ? | 06:56 |
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| Laney | @pilot in | 08:15 |
| === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Ubuntu 13.04 released | Archive: open | Devel of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of lucid -> raring | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: Laney | ||
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| jamespage | doko, available for a chat re go policies? | 08:41 |
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| doko | jamespage, in 15min, need a coffee .... | 08:45 |
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| ejat | friends-app : Depends: qtdeclarative5-hud1.0 but it is not installable | 10:21 |
| ejat | ? | 10:21 |
| infinity | ejat: Are you running -proposed? friends-app installs fine here on saucy without proposed. | 10:31 |
| infinity | ejat: If you're using proposed, don't. :P | 10:31 |
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| doko | mlankhorst, ping | 11:51 |
| doko | tjaalton, ping | 11:54 |
| mlankhorst | pong | 11:59 |
| mlankhorst | what's up | 11:59 |
| doko | mlankhorst, please see message | 12:07 |
| Laney | @pilot out | 12:14 |
| === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Ubuntu 13.04 released | Archive: open | Devel of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of lucid -> raring | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: | ||
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| seb128 | apw, hey, thanks for the lightdm patch ... it looks good to me, you should perhaps upload, robert_ancell is not going to be online before another half a day and it seems quite some users are running into the bug | 13:15 |
| seb128 | apw, can you upload the fix and do a merge request for it on trunk? or do you prefer if I do that? | 13:15 |
| apw | seb128, i can do that no problem, if you know where the master one is, it doesn't seem to have a link in the pakcaging | 13:18 |
| seb128 | apw, just propose the fix for upstream code (e.g lp:lightdm), there is no packaging vcs afaik | 13:20 |
| apw | seb128, ahh great will do so indeed | 13:20 |
| seb128 | apw, thanks | 13:20 |
| barry | uh oh. looks like the greeter is feeling unhappy this morning. super tiny font syndrome | 13:34 |
| jodh | pitti: got a fix for the zero-length core files - bug 1203744 | 13:36 |
| ubottu | bug 1203744 in apport (Ubuntu) "apport typo means disks not synced on upstart crashes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1203744 | 13:36 |
| apw | seb128, merge proposed:https://code.launchpad.net/~apw/lightdm/lp1203711-fix-uninitialised-glist/+merge/176193 | 13:37 |
| apw | seb128, and i am just re-testng for upload | 13:38 |
| seb128 | apw, excellent, thanks! | 13:38 |
| pitti | jodh: argh, brown paperbag one.. thanks! | 13:38 |
| pitti | jodh: saucy has 2.11-0ubuntu1, which is what is in bzr (that even has a staged commit which isn't uploaded) | 13:39 |
| pitti | jodh: it's in Vcs-Bzr:, not the UDD branch | 13:39 |
| jodh | pitti: ok, thanks. | 13:40 |
| zul | mterry: ping any update on python-heatlclient? | 13:52 |
| mterry | zul, not yet. I'll assign or review today | 13:52 |
| rbasak | mdeslaur: OK for me to touch apache2? I want to merge 2.4.6-1 to fix bug 1202653. | 14:04 |
| ubottu | bug 1202653 in apache2 (Ubuntu) "apache2 2.4.4-6ubuntu4 failed to upgrade: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so into server: undefined symbol: unixd_config" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1202653 | 14:04 |
| mdeslaur | rbasak: sure, thanks! | 14:05 |
| rbasak | Great, thanks. | 14:05 |
| xnox | rbasak: that's my bug! \o/ | 14:10 |
| xnox | rbasak: thanks! | 14:10 |
| doko | I HATE ARCH INDEP all PACKAGES! | 14:18 |
| doko | -dev packages even | 14:18 |
| davmor2 | doko: use ubuntu instead of arch /me runs for the bunker............ :D | 14:19 |
| pitti | rbasak, jibel, apw: hm, in today's saucy /dev/kvm doesn't exist any more; dmesg says "kvm_intel: Unknown parameter `nested'"; known? | 14:25 |
| pitti | ah, /etc/modprobe.d/qemu-system-x86.conf:options kvm_intel nested=1 | 14:26 |
| pitti | modinfo kvm_intel still shows it, though | 14:26 |
| apw | pitti, yes a known issue, will be fixed in the next upload | 14:38 |
| pitti | apw: thanks | 14:38 |
| apw | pitti, parameter handling has gone to pot | 14:38 |
| jodh | pitti: bug 1203211. | 14:40 |
| ubottu | bug 1203211 in linux (Ubuntu) "Modprobe doesn't recognize any parameters on 3.10.0-4" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1203211 | 14:40 |
| rbasak | When doing a merge, is it normal to include changelog entries for bugs fixed by virtue of them being fixed in Debian? Or should I just make sure to include those bug numbers in my changes file? | 14:40 |
| xnox | rbasak: if debian used "LP: #NNNNNNN" you are fine (in addition to Closes: #), otherwise in your merge changelog you'd need to include "LP: #######", or otherwise the bug will stay open, and you'd have to manually close it. | 14:43 |
| cjwatson | rbasak: I occasionally stick a parenthesised comment in about such-and-such a Debian version fixing such-and-such an LP bug | 14:44 |
| cjwatson | But sometimes it reads oddly and I just close manually | 14:44 |
| xnox | rbasak: look at the .changes file and make sure there is LP-* bugs closing stanza in there with things you want to close. | 14:44 |
| xnox | may require -v option, when building the source package. | 14:44 |
| rbasak | OK, got it, thanks. In this case Debian used LP: #XXX so I should be fine. I'll make sure to check the changes file. | 14:44 |
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| doko | roaksoax, ping | 14:58 |
| slangasek | pitti: hmm, would you like to add me to the cron mail, so I could help track it down? | 15:06 |
| pitti | slangasek: that's for the apport retracers? | 15:06 |
| slangasek | pitti: yeah | 15:07 |
| pitti | seb128: did you get apport failure cron mail recently? I didn't | 15:07 |
| pitti | slangasek: done; but I have a feeling that the problem is on the sending side | 15:07 |
| slangasek | pitti: sure, I expect so too - but at least this doubles the odds of someone noticing that the mails haven't been sent :) | 15:08 |
| pitti | indeed | 15:09 |
| seb128 | pitti, I got an email on friday from the dup checker, that's all recently | 15:11 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, I got that one, too | 15:12 |
| pitti | but never one from the i386 crash | 15:12 |
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| doko | seb128, pitti: is glib2.0 buildable without python-gi and python-dbus? | 16:00 |
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| cjwatson | bdmurray: copy-set-phase now available | 16:53 |
| cjwatson | bdmurray: So if we deploy set-pup now, is the cron job already running somewhere sensible and will it adjust the phases up over time? | 16:57 |
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| SpamapS | nobody 2444 0.0 0.0 28900 1528 ? S Jul21 0:00 /usr/sbin/dnsmasq --no-resolv --keep-in-foreground --no-hosts --bind-interfaces --pid-file=/var/run/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.pid --listen-address=127.0.1.1 --conf-file=/var/run/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.conf --cache-size=0 --proxy-dnssec --enable-dbus=org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.dnsmasq --conf-dir=/etc/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.d | 17:45 |
| SpamapS | what is the point of having a local dnsmasq.. | 17:45 |
| SpamapS | if --cache-size=0 ?! | 17:45 |
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| jbicha | zul: there's a typo with horizon, it depends on python-neturonclient | 18:13 |
| zul | jbicha: ? | 18:13 |
| jbicha | shouldn't it be neutron? | 18:14 |
| zul | jbicha: crap thanks for spotting it | 18:14 |
| zul | jbicha: ill fix that up | 18:15 |
| jbicha | neturon does sound kinda cool though | 18:18 |
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| pitti | doko: glib2.0 python-gi and python-dbus sound like test dependencies; you certainly don't need them for build | 19:48 |
| xnox | pitti: yeah, i thought so to. trying to use jhbuild to cross-bootstrap gnome =) | 19:49 |
| jdstrand | @pilot in | 20:02 |
| === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Ubuntu 13.04 released | Archive: open | Devel of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of lucid -> raring | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: jdstrand | ||
| doko | xnox, pitti: thanks, in that case I won't need the jhbuild | 20:30 |
| xnox | doko: yeah, but autoconf cache is incomplete for arm64 =) | 20:31 |
| doko | xnox, ? | 20:31 |
| xnox | well, not enough to cross-compile glib. going through it now.... unless the cache is not loaded, one sec. | 20:32 |
| doko | ahh | 20:32 |
| xnox | compiling. and it needs to be taught about multiarch include dirs *sigh* | 20:40 |
| roaksoax | mterry: so I've been looking into the test of libqb and haven't been able to find a way to fix them. So I'll disable the failing ones for now, since it is blocking other packages that I need to upload to have a functional cluster stack in saucy | 20:45 |
| mterry | roaksoax, OK, but can you file a bug to fix the rest of them and assign to someone (maybe you) for tracking purposes? It would be nice to see those addressed, in case they are real problems | 20:46 |
| roaksoax | mterry: I talked to the debian maintainer too and he's also gonna look into that. | 20:46 |
| roaksoax | and will do | 20:47 |
| roaksoax | :) | 20:47 |
| roaksoax | mterry: done! https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libqb/0.14.4-1ubuntu1 should be published soon | 21:09 |
| mterry | roaksoax, don't know what's wrong with my IRC, but I'm all over the place :( | 21:09 |
| roaksoax | mterry: :( | 21:11 |
| roaksoax | mterry: thanks! :) | 21:17 |
| xnox | too hot, must shut down my pc | 21:20 |
| ari-tczew | xnox: or buy a cooling mat | 21:25 |
| mterry | roaksoax, thank you! | 21:25 |
| * ScottK has set his laptop on a bag of ice before. | 21:26 | |
| ScottK | Need to take it off before condensation gets too bad though. | 21:26 |
| dobey | anyone know why this command line would result in a file that is statically linked, rather than a dynamic lib? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5901979/ | 21:26 |
| sarnold | dobey: wild-guess territory, perhaps one of the .o files was compiled without -fPIC? does 'file' on all the .o files look sensible? | 21:31 |
| dobey | sarnold: yeah, all ELF LSB relocatable SYSV not stripped | 21:32 |
| slangasek | dobey: "statically linked" - defined how? what does file say on the resulting object? | 21:32 |
| dobey | slangasek: ldd says "statically linked", file says "dynamically linked" | 21:33 |
| dobey | so uh, wtf :) | 21:33 |
| slangasek | what does objdump -p $file | grep NEEDED' say? | 21:33 |
| dobey | slangasek: it's empty | 21:34 |
| dobey | (the library has no symbols at the moment, but this problem only happens on saucy, not on raring) | 21:34 |
| slangasek | there's no way that command could result in a statically linked object with no missing refs, because you're passing the path to the .so's specifically - the linker isn't going to randomly substitute the .a's | 21:34 |
| slangasek | oh | 21:34 |
| slangasek | "the library has no symbols at the moment" is exactly your problem. | 21:35 |
| slangasek | the linker has outsmarted you | 21:35 |
| dobey | but why is it only an issue on saucy? | 21:35 |
| dobey | ld is trying to be smart? | 21:35 |
| slangasek | I thought this default was changed pre-saucy, but maybe not | 21:35 |
| slangasek | but in any case, the default behavior is -Wl,--as-needed | 21:36 |
| dobey | on raring ld reports the libc and ld deps | 21:36 |
| dobey | err, ldd reports | 21:36 |
| slangasek | so if you ask to link to a library that you don't actually need, ld discards this reference | 21:36 |
| slangasek | you can force the linkage with -Wl,--no-as-needed for testing | 21:37 |
| dobey | that's fine, but ldd reporting "statically linked" is obviously wrong | 21:37 |
| slangasek | not really | 21:37 |
| slangasek | it has no dynamic library dependencies | 21:37 |
| slangasek | so it's statically linked | 21:37 |
| slangasek | the definition of a dynamically linked library is one that has external runtime dependencies. This library has none, so it's a statically linked library (by virtue of the fact that it's completely empty). | 21:38 |
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| dobey | ls | 21:39 |
| dobey | so i should just ignore lintian complaining about the shlibs for now? | 21:40 |
| slangasek | whether the library is statically linked is entirely unrelated to whether it's *consumable* as ashared library | 21:41 |
| slangasek | the shlibs are for the latter, and the lintian error ought to be fixed | 21:42 |
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| robert_ancell | mterry, how did you mark the mir MIR "no longer affects unity-system-compositor"? | 22:01 |
| dobey | slangasek: thanks. would you mind taking a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1199017 ? finally got the issues fixed with symbols exporting and that as-needed problem. just decided to drop the empty lib from the packaging for now. | 22:11 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1199017 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] ubuntuone-credentials" [Wishlist,New] | 22:11 |
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