[00:59] <ryanlin> any guru's think they can help me out with program that wont launch?
[01:24] <bjsnider> ryanlin, what's the deal
[01:24] <bjsnider> it's just gurus, not guru's
[02:43] <darkxst_> jbicha, I think we can overide the homepage by using something like this file -> /usr/share/xul-ext/ubufox/defaults/preferences/000system.js
[02:53] <jbicha> darkxst_: I think we already do that, see /usr/lib/firefox/distribution/distribution.ini
[03:00] <darkxst_> well in that case the setting in that file is not being applied
[03:11] <darkxst> jbicha, or more likely it gets overridden by ubufox as soon as it starts
[03:32] <jbicha> it's getting applied because it shows about:home in a clean profile but none of the javascript works
[03:33] <darkxst> the javascript doesnt work because of the redirect through aboutpage
[03:33] <darkxst> startpage
[03:35] <darkxst> overriding via that 000system.js file, make the homepage about:home, rather than about:startpage
[03:40] <jbicha> I think by the time Firefox gets to that file it's already too late
[03:41] <darkxst> distribution.ini must be loaded before ubufox
[03:42] <darkxst> but then ubufox probably goes and overwrites settings
[03:46] <jbicha> maybe what's needed is for ubufox to just provide about:startpage but not set it as default
[03:48] <darkxst> well that is what would happen if we override via 000system.js
[03:48] <jbicha> then Ubuntu can ship a separate package to set the default homepage, http://support.mozilla.org/questions/951790 looks relevant to that
[03:52] <jbicha> https://developer.mozilla.org/docs/XPCOM_Interface_Reference/nsIAboutModule
[03:53] <jbicha> ^ didn't seem to help me before
[03:54] <darkxst> I think its actually the getCodebasePrincipal bit that is the problem
[03:54] <darkxst> it would probably work with getSystemPrincipal, but that seems risky
[04:07] <darkxst> anyway I totally don't get how the security manager works, and the documentation is rubbish (in typical mozilla fashion)
[13:09] <amjjawad> Hi, is there anyone here?
[13:09] <amjjawad> someone who is not ZzZz :P
[13:13] <jbicha> amjjawad: what's up?
[13:13] <amjjawad> jbicha: :D
[13:13] <amjjawad> I'm fine, how about you?
[13:13] <amjjawad> didn't expect to see you here :) nice to meet you :)
[13:14] <jbicha> do you plan to lead Alpha2 this week?
[13:18] <amjjawad> I'm planning to take Ubuntu GNOME to the next level :)
[13:18] <amjjawad> so, not only A2
[13:19] <amjjawad> But there are lots of tasks that must be done before the real fun start ... I do have some Qs ... can you help?
[13:20] <jbicha> ask away...
[13:22] <amjjawad> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/
[13:22] <amjjawad> is this the only page we do have on the Wiki?
[13:25] <amjjawad> I did a google search and didn't find other pages except two others for release or release notes
[13:26] <jbicha> yeah, it's just that and 12.10 release notes
[13:27] <amjjawad> jbicha: I see, thanks for the info. It is time then to have more pages :)
[13:28] <amjjawad> It is very important to have QA Page, like this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing
[13:33] <amjjawad> What about our website? who is in charge?
[13:36] <jbicha> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-gnome-website have edit privileges
[13:37] <amjjawad> I see
[13:39] <amjjawad> We need to build a Wiki Team - this is very important
[13:40] <amjjawad> and we need to have something like this: <<Include(Lubuntu/Header)>> which will add a header for the Wiki so user can navigate easily - example: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/
[13:40] <amjjawad> I can some work but myself alone won't be enough. We need more than just one
[13:49] <bjsnider> amjjawad, the next level of what?
[13:49] <amjjawad> bjsnider: everything!!
[13:49] <amjjawad> Wiki Area for example!
[13:49] <bjsnider> well, there are 9 layers of hell
[13:49] <bjsnider> 666 layers of the abyss
[13:50] <amjjawad> where are not in hell :)
[13:50] <amjjawad> I'm looking for heaven here rather than hell ;)
[13:53] <bjsnider> last time i tried ti edit anything on the wiki it constantly crashed, but maybe they've fixed it now
[13:57] <amjjawad> I just got the green light from my Sensei (phillw) who was previously the Head of Lubuntu Wiki Area and now, he is Head of Lubuntu QA - to have a Lubuntu-Like Wiki
[13:57] <amjjawad> Lubuntu Wiki is really solid and has lots of information and I have already started to do that. Soon, our Wiki will have more information :)
[13:57] <amjjawad> I always update it bjsnider so no crashes here
[13:59] <amjjawad> bjsnider: this is stage 1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME
[13:59] <amjjawad> I must go now and after 1-2 hours, I will be back and finish the new sections hopefully before bed time :)
[14:00] <amjjawad> Catch up with you later, hopefully :)
[14:10] <bjsnider> hm, well, it's still moinmoin
[17:38] <Dark_light> I've tried out the alpha-1 a bit, besides a few crashes there were a couple of things that really puzzled me,when I plugged in my external devices it asked me if I wanted to open them with rythmbox(??) most importantly the thinkpad_acpi kernel module threw errors about symbols when it was passed the option fan_control=1
[18:22] <TravLR> Dark_light: are you running it in a virtual machine? I can't get it to successfully work with Virtualbox -- is why I'm asking.
[18:24] <Dark_light> TravLR: nope I installed it on my laptop, but due to the aformentioned issues and some crashes I uninstalled it
[18:24] <Dark_light> there were also systemd errors during boot and right after logging in from tty
[20:43] <bjsnider> why does this terminal window appear when i restart the shell?
[20:43] <bjsnider> i can't close it or move it or anything
[20:43] <bjsnider> it's just the window border with nothing inside
[21:22] <darkxst> Dark_light, please file bugs
[21:27] <darkxst> bjsnider, screenshot?
[21:49] <bjsnider> darkxst, http://ptpimg.me/ec20ge.png
[21:49] <bjsnider> i had such a window open when i restarted the shell
[21:49] <bjsnider> that appears on all virtual desktops
[21:49] <bjsnider> it's not sensitive to mouse clicks or anything
[21:49] <bjsnider> and it's on top of everything else
[21:50] <darkxst> you restarted with alt+f2, r?
[21:51] <bjsnider> yes
[21:52] <bjsnider> there is a zombie process gnome-terminal under the shell in the tree, but i can't get rid of it
[21:53] <darkxst> gnome-terminal-server still running?
[21:55] <bjsnider> that does not appear to be running
[21:58] <darkxst> try `killall -9 gnome-terminal`
[22:02] <darkxst> also check for a apport crash? if gnome-terminal-server is gone it must have crashed
[22:28] <bjsnider> darkxst, ok, apparently i still have gnome-terminal 3.6
[22:28] <bjsnider> why is gnome-terminal 3.8 not in the stable ppa?
[22:34] <darkxst> oh because of bug 1132700
[22:41] <bjsnider> there. i installed the bloody thing anyway
[22:41] <jbicha> at least there's an easy workaround for the problem
[22:44] <bjsnider> the other new problem since 3.8 is that restarting the shell makes it forget the positioning of all the windows through the virtual desktops
[22:45] <bjsnider> i found a patch and added it to 3.6 in the last cycle, but now the thing has returned
[22:45] <bjsnider> maybe it's because of something else in the staging ppa that i don't have
[23:00] <jbicha> darkxst: do you want to submit a MP for the gtk xembed bug?
[23:04] <darkxst> jbicha, yes will do
[23:06] <darkxst> although my last MP was just ignored: bug 1186694 ;(
[23:53] <jbicha> I didn't see it and I'm guessing the Desktop guys didn't either
[23:53] <jbicha> subscribing ~ubuntu-sponsors to the bug would have gotten it seen