[02:39] To all those complaining about the current lovely weather in Britain I say the following: boo to you sirs, boo to you madams, boo to you gender non-binary people. [04:17] yo === jenny_ is now known as Tschennieh === chalcedony` is now known as chalcedony === Tschennieh is now known as Masturbater90000 === GazzaK is now known as Gary [07:50] good morning everyone, [07:55] hi [07:56] hi marcushaslam [07:57] brobostigon: hi marcushaslam [07:57] :) [07:57] marcushaslam: hi even [07:57] :) [07:58] hi brobostigon :) [07:58] marcushaslam: brobostigon: hi marcushaslam [07:58] lol. === jussi01 is now known as jussi [08:27] morning all [08:27] morning MooDoo_ === MooDoo_ is now known as MooDoo [08:29] that was an expensive beer... [08:29] woops wrong channel :D [08:29] or rather i was replying to a 3 day old comment [08:37] I do that a lot, forget I've scrolled-up in irssi. [08:37] lol [08:38] my employer has decided to replace 1300 windows xp desktops with windows 8 [08:38] failsome [08:38] better than xp.... [08:38] wrong asnwer :P [08:38] of course win7 was the one they needed [08:39] windows 8 with start8 isn't so bad. [08:39] machines come pre built with win8 [08:39] ultimately, Windows 7 is probably fine for a corporate environment that requires windws-based apps, though. I'm surprised there's been enough time for a company to evaluate Windows 8. [08:39] but the decision making process was not based on anything concrete, rather an airy assumption that students would come to uni with win8 on all their ipads, android tabs and laptops in various states of crustiness [08:40] regardless of whether win8 is actually usable (it is not) [08:40] waht you actually mean is ms told the uni you can have a windows license for .5p a machine ;) [08:40] oh they sold their soul a couple of years ago [08:41] since then , the move away from open source has got millions in contractors, downtime and VM sprawl [08:41] and licences [08:41] if all the tools are web-based, the OS is less important [08:41] if anything requires IE6, then the network is already a failure ;) [08:45] you're just going to have to work your ass off fixing all the c**p [08:45] not me, some other poor buggers...actually rich buggers cos they will increase their contractor army [08:46] yup [08:46] earning approx 3x what us munters earn [08:46] hey ho [08:46] fixing or just explaining how the start menu works? [08:46] got that monday feeling [08:47] how do i reinstall grub [08:49] arc__: this might help, or ask on #ubuntu - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2 [08:50] ok i got help form #ubuntu [08:50] I had to do this the other day, there's a GUI-based automated tool, too, which is handy [08:50] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair [08:51] I was able to run it from a boot CD, and it fixed everything with little intervention. [09:18] Good morning all, happy Pi Approximation Day! :-D [09:20] lol [09:20] * DJones rounds pi to 3 [09:20] Then eats said apple pi [09:20] is that approximate? [09:20] lol [09:21] my son (3) made a new word yesterday. what's that? a hexagon...correct. what's this (show a quarter circle segment of pie): a quartagon [09:25] that's quite cool [09:25] he's obviously very logically minded [09:26] yes [09:26] scarily so [09:26] what actually is the name for a quarter circle segment? [09:26] and arc? [09:26] I think it's an arc [09:26] *an [09:26] an arc is only the outer bit [09:27] slice? [09:27] morning [09:27] morning === popey_ is now known as popey [09:27] arrived ok then popey ? [09:27] in 3d it is a wedge [09:28] ya [09:28] good good [09:28] been up for ~29 hours [09:28] ouch [09:28] probably time for sleep now [09:28] then why you on here lol [09:28] what time is it there? [09:29] 02:29 [09:29] where .... oh, OSCON? [09:29] timezones eh! [09:41] \o/ pizza arriving [09:41] at this time of day? [09:42] SuperMatt: it's 2am where he is [09:42] oh right [09:42] oscon [09:42] \o/ [09:42] I'd just go to bed, tbh [09:42] I can't be doing with being up so late [09:42] he's going for the record, 29 hours uptime ;) [09:42] not my call [09:42] my roomie ordered pizza \o/ [09:45] wow so many awesome speakers at oscon [09:48] mmm portland [09:49] supposed to have good beer [09:51] * popey cosiders cold pizza for breakfash [09:52] you need sleep popey [09:55] Morning all [09:55] yes, yes i do [09:56] * popey sleeps [10:11] how is winmail.dat still an issue in this day and age? [10:15] fortunately there's a thunderbird plugin for it [10:17] once again, the open sauce community rescues a coproration from embarrasment [10:18] oh, is that that file that can never get over 2G or you lose EVERYTHING? [10:19] Morning all [10:19] SuperMatt: thats teh pst file [10:20] winmail.dat is any attachment received from a outlook client [10:20] needs to be converted before reading the attachments [10:20] oh yeah, you're right [10:20] oh gods, now I remember winmail.dat [10:21] http://ubuntuforums.org/announce.html?t=1690426 [10:21] can't remember my ubuntu forum password [10:21] I've never liked attachments on emails [10:21] but had it for years, hope i didn't reuse [10:21] just duplicates the bloody data [10:21] "I'm just going to email 20 people this one document. Please make changes to it and send it back" [10:22] now I have 21 copies of the document [10:22] I may have reused the password, but I've changed all the important ones since [10:22] if someone wants to break in to my gamespy account, go ahead [10:22] ok [10:37] Hiiiiiiii [10:39] ubuntu old kernel removing time i face some problems please help me [10:40] just tell people what the problem is and if they can help you they will [10:40] !ask [10:40] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [10:45] please open this URL http://paste.ubuntu.com/5900138/ i faced this type of problems [10:46] have you tried apt-get -f instal ? [10:46] yes [10:46] so what's the output of apt-get -f install ? [10:47] please open this URL http://paste.ubuntu.com/5900154/ [10:49] Looking at that, /boot is full [10:49] From line 38 [10:49] yes [10:49] boot partition full 100 % [10:49] yeah [10:50] what i have to do please could you tel me [10:50] the emergency "get out of jail free" option when that happens is to delete an old initrd or two (i.e. one not in use) from /boot, then you should be able to complete the dpkg operations normally, including uninstalling old kernels [10:50] oh bugger missed that :) [10:50] i.e. what does "ls -hl /boot" and "uname -a" say? [10:51] Its not something I've done, so I wouldn't like to make any any suggestion, somebody else should be able to help though [10:51] root@ubuntu:~# uname -a Linux ubuntu 3.5.0-32-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 29 20:23:04 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [10:51] ok, so 3.5.0-32-generic in use currently [10:53] using ls -hl please open this URL http://paste.ubuntu.com/5900164/ [10:53] ok, so you have 7 kernels installed [10:54] let's do what i said - delete some files you aren't using, let the "apt-get -f install" finish, the uninstall the old kernels "properly" [10:54] so "rm /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-2*" should do the first part [10:54] and free up about 100 meg of space [10:54] no automatically update [10:55] ... i don't understand what you just said [10:55] Just run this command (inc brackets): [10:55] ( \ [10:55] KERNEL_HIGHEST=$(dpkg -l 'linux-image-[0-9.]*-[0-9]*-[a-zA-Z0-9]*' | grep ^ii | awk '{print $2}' | sort -V | tail -n 1 | sed 's/^linux-image-$[0-9.]*-[0-9]*$-.*$/\1/') ; \ [10:56] KERNEL_CURRENT=$(uname -r | sed "s/$.*$-$[^0-9]\+$/\1/") ; \ [10:56] sudo apt-get purge $(dpkg -l 'linux-*-[0-9-]*' | grep ^ii | awk '{print $2}' | sed "/$KERNEL_CURRENT/d;/$KERNEL_HIGHEST/d" ) ; \ [10:56] i did not install 7 kernels automatically update only [10:56] ) [10:56] courtesy of http://www.tolaris.com/2012/07/19/removing-old-kernels-from-ubuntu/ [10:56] TheOpenSourcerer, note: will leave his system pretty screwy since he's not booted on the highest kernel right now [10:56] dvrr, i didn't debate that point, i tried to help you to fix it. if you're not interested in that, then fine. [10:58] TheOpenSourcerer, also, it doesn't fix the underlying problem - dpkg is stuck in a broken transaction because there's no free disk space, so the "apt-get purge" commands in that scriptlet cannot complete. deleting some initrds to make space first is not optional. dpkg needs to be in a clean state [11:01] ahh. [11:01] * TheOpenSourcerer runs away! [11:02] * directhex wonders how long it takes to run a single "rm", assumes this is going to be more painful than he has time for [11:04] directhex: try it rm -rf /* ;) <---- DO NOT REALLY RUN THIS I'M JOKING [11:04] just for the benefit of the logs :D [11:06] * AlanBell slaps MooDoo for even joking [11:06] moodoo that command is running a lot of stuff getting deleted [11:06] AlanBell: *blush* :) [11:06] hd5770: :) oops [11:07] From memory, UBuntu has a --preserve-root flag set so it won't do anything unless you're on a really old version [11:12] * DJones tries it in a VM just for fun [11:12] rm: cannot remove ' pretty much anything ' [11:14] But does break the system [11:15] Its removed font/language packs sudo is no longer recognised as a command [11:16] Killed off grub when trying to reboot [11:18] lol [11:19] It was quite interesting to do as an experiment [11:20] sudo -i first [11:20] run it from vty-1 [11:20] Just a straight sudo running in a terminal === dwd is now known as dwdbah === dwdbah is now known as dwdorig [12:28] neuro_: mgdm http://www.groupon.com.au/deals/national-deal/Highland-Titles/717215553?nlp&CID=AU_CRM_1_0_0_203&a=715827934 [12:28] it's a scam [12:28] has no legal bearing whatsoever, as far as I recall [12:42] Anyone in here ever used a HP MSA1000 ? === G4MBY is now known as PaulW2U [13:18] I guess that's a no then diplo :) [13:19] heh, guessing so :) [13:20] diplo: lots of storage though :D [13:21] yeah, freebie from a customer [13:21] But 5 of the discs aren't working, wanted to go on the serial port but they haven't suppled the cable. Wondering if whether a cisco serial one would work, also just some general advice [13:22] May go and search for one now [13:22] google is your friend in times like these [13:22] yeah I'm failing like a pro [13:32] cameron wants to set up a UK wide pron filter. that'll work then. [13:33] lol, quite. [13:34] mungbean: if it goes through expect whoever removes it to get in for the next election :) + I thought it was more to target child porn which in my opinion simply shouldn't happen fullstop. [13:36] nah, nothing ever gets removed by the next govt [13:36] rah rah 17.5% VAT is terrible [13:36] etc etc [13:37] yes and they did remove the 17.5% they replaced it with 20% [13:37] "thats just temporary" [13:38] yeah for nearly 4 years ;) [13:41] first time for everything, my nexus7 just bootlooped with memory errors, connected adb, tried to fix it, couldnt, so reflashed android, all back to normal. [13:42] i'm thinking of a nexus 4 [13:43] MooDoo: nice bit of kit, :) [13:43] brobostigon: selling my galaxy s3 to get it :D [13:43] MooDoo: ah, :) [13:48] MooDoo: apparently you'll need a bouncy case just ask popey [13:49] davmor2: people have already shown me their phones, then agian shouldn't I be waiting for this sparkly ubuntu phone as well. [13:49] Good morning all [13:49] popey: morning how is oscon [13:49] howdy popey sleep well ish? and how was the cold pizza :D [13:49] yummy [13:49] wait, how long were you asleep for? [13:49] can't have been that long! [13:50] dunno, some hours [13:50] wide awake now [13:50] popey: you won't get anywhere trying to use yum on ubuntu and yummy isn't even a command :P [13:53] davmor2: what? you can't use yum on ubuntu, so what's this yum update i've just ran then :p [13:53] MooDoo: you're not on ubuntu :P [13:54] MooDoo: ssh'ing into RHEL boxes does count :D [13:54] davmor2: unless I aliased yum to apt-get [13:54] davmor2: ok ok i'll shutup now [13:54] davmor2: I don't like this new job czajkowski has, we never get time to abuse her any more :( [13:55] * davmor2 waits on the almight whack to land on MooDoo [13:56] :D [13:56] * czajkowski slaps MooDoo over to the naughty step [13:56] am here [13:56] * MooDoo is in #naughtystep :d [13:57] stupid java crapware [13:57] notice the "ask" toolbar appeared on chrome are i rushed a java update [13:57] after I [13:58] only login to windows every few weeks and get bombarded with updates [13:58] i'm the same with ubuntu.....don't update for a few weeks then get bombarded with them :D [14:04] ok so the royal baby is nearly upon us, but who cares about that when's the ubuntu phone here? ;) lol [14:04] :) [14:05] so where can we buy this ubuntu phone in normal phone shops [14:05] this is where it needs to be, on display on the high street so people can walk in and see it as an option [14:07] it does? [14:08] we don't even know there is going to be an ubuntu phone! (we totally know there's going to be an ubuntu phone) [14:10] czajkowski: so the new chicks are settling in? Are they picking on piripiri [14:11] she's picking on them and driving us all a bit crazy [14:14] did someone say chicks? https://plus.google.com/photos/104760950939866700163/albums/5903437285399947169/5903437281909106562?authkey=CLrK5vitlcrKoQE [14:16] czajkowski: she'll be boss then [14:21] davmor2: indeed [14:21] much hen pecking [14:21] i think your over egg-agerrating on that czajkowski [14:21] czajkowski: did I miss something important? What's your new job? [14:22] dvrr [14:22] thank you very much everyone [14:23] lornajane: http://www.lczajkowski.com/2013/06/13/a-bite-of-something-new/ [14:25] lornajane: community manager here in EMEA for Mongodb at 10gen [14:25] MooDoo, directhex, TheOpenSourcerer resolved my boot partation problem [14:25] czajkowski: that's awezome, I love the 10gen guys (I mostly know the driver team, Derick's a close friend) [14:26] czajkowski: highland titles?! bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha [14:26] czajkowski: *hug* :) [14:26] dvrr: cool [14:28] lornajane: yes Derick is good [14:28] so I am getting to know all about the php evens in EMEA :) [14:29] czajkowski: it's a terribly important community, I hope you'll make sure to attend them all (and purely by coincidence have a drink with me) [14:29] czajkowski: you'll be at PHPNW13 then? :) [14:29] czajkowski: what mgdm said :) [14:29] one of the first thigns I've done is to make it easier to request help from us http://www.lczajkowski.com/2013/07/16/making-it-simpler-to-get-sponsorship-when-needed-from-10gen/ [14:30] also the more sharing of that post would be great :) [14:30] mgdm: it's when and where [14:30] I#m now booked to attend a lot of things up to noember :) [14:30] *november [14:30] czajkowski: Oct 4-6, Manchester [14:30] czajkowski: please tell me you have no interest in that titles thing [14:30] czajkowski: http://conference.phpnw.org.uk/phpnw13/ [14:31] post shared czajkowski [14:31] neuro_: No but I found it cute and entertaining [14:31] czajkowski: it's misleading, a scam and immoral [14:47] \o/ breakfast [14:47] more pizza? [14:47] no, shattering bacon [14:47] shattering? [14:47] wat? [14:47] streaky? [14:48] merican [14:48] it's the worst kind of bacon [14:48] indeed it is [14:48] and I'm eating it with a non-shattering bacon [14:48] burnt to a crisp too, no doubt [14:48] all of the hype, none of the meat [14:48] yeah, i don't get the crisp thing either [14:49] I like mine quite pink and dripping in fat [14:49] "hey, let's take the awesome meat from a pig, but let's get the fattiest, streakiest, least-meaty parts, and burn it until all the remaining goodness has been sucked out of it, and call it Awesome" [14:49] and add syrup [14:49] yeah, what's that all about [14:49] god, that makes me feel sick [14:50] more and more i can't take americans seriously when they say they love bacon, but then you get a good look at what they're eating [14:50] it's like someone saying "i love haggis!" but it's veggie haggis [14:50] or "I love pizza!" but it's frozen pizza from iceland [14:50] important pizza question: [14:50] yes [14:50] is the answer [14:51] the following morning, do you nuke it for a minute or leave it cold? [14:51] sorry, continue [14:51] hi i need lot's of help with grub plz [14:51] i eat it cold [14:51] but that's personal preference [14:51] and it depends on the pizza [14:51] arc__: what's the problem [14:51] and how much cheese has been gunked on it in the first place [14:51] here is a paste bin http://paste.ubuntu.com/5900834/ [14:51] too much cheese + next morning = bin [14:51] wow, nice [14:51] don't do that [14:52] what [14:52] install grub to a partition [14:52] install /dev/sda [14:52] install it to the mbr instead [14:52] yeah, that [14:52] * SuperMatt nods [14:52] how [14:52] like how SuperMatt said [14:52] ok [14:52] BUT [14:52] sudo grub-install /dev/sda [14:52] without the 2 [14:52] you are messing with the boot record on your disk, so tread lightly [14:52] ok exec it now [14:52] measure twice, cut once [14:53] or just ram ahead full steam [14:53] whatever [14:53] that's what I said when I had my circumcision [14:53] ok it works now [14:53] ha [14:53] any particular reason why you are in the situation where you have to use such a command [14:53] TMI SuperMatt :) [14:53] :D [14:53] generally if you don't understand what grub is doing, you shouldn't be doing things with it [14:53] don't worry, it aint true [14:53] I never said that [14:53] SuperMatt: said the vicar to the nun [14:54] also how to make record my desktop faster when encoding [14:54] yeah, that's a one line answer ... ;) [14:54] oh wait, it is [14:54] buy a faster computer [14:54] yup [14:54] ok [14:54] or the longer answer: [14:54] buy more ram [14:54] and faster disks [14:54] and a faster CPU [14:54] or more CPUs [14:54] ok [14:54] all of this [14:55] what SuperMatt said [14:55] it is a bit pointless to buy more cpu's if your motherboard dosn't support it [14:55] * SuperMatt sheds a tear [14:55] I've just removed The H from my feeds [14:55] hence "buy a faster computer" [14:56] the h .... oh yeah, they're "sunsetting", aren't they? [14:57] yup :( [14:57] they were quite good [14:57] i never bothered with them tbh [14:57] i never really rated heise's quality, but that's probably just a snap rash decision based on nothing but gut instinct [14:59] oh no, The Verge reviews R.I.P.D. ... "'Men in Black' meets 'Ghostbusters,' minus the good parts" [14:59] and i was looking forward to it too [14:59] :( [14:59] heh, I saw a prety scathing review of it the other day [15:00] i have something of a mancrush on ryan reynolds [15:00] also, you know, Mary Louise Parker [15:01] i threw a laptop and a motherboard in the skip at the dump on sautrday [15:01] bad [15:01] damn I thought that looked good, I shou;dn't have watched atlantic rim as it's put me off pacific rim :( [15:01] naughty bad person [15:01] as i stared into the abyss i saw other techonology staring back at me "pleeeease rescue me" [15:02] was it a kosher WEEE skip, or was it just like a skip "down the street" [15:02] anyway when i started fire starter it came with an error that failed to open system log [15:02] a WEEEEEEEEE skip [15:02] at the dump [15:02] almost took a photo [15:02] ok, you're not naughty then [15:02] you should have! [15:02] you go up some steps and look down on loads of equipment [15:03] arc__: and was the system log in the place where it said it wasn't? [15:03] men were looking at me [15:03] ah [15:03] probably cos i had my 3yr old son [15:03] no [15:03] probably thinking you looked like an open source type, and might have tried an extraction mission [15:03] maybe they thought i was gonna throw him in [15:03] lol [15:03] nah, wasn't wearing black tshirt [15:03] http://igg.me/at/ubuntuedge [15:03] or beard [15:04] you just say to them "but the human body generates more bio-electricity than a 120-volt battery and over 25,000 BTUs of body heat!" [15:04] no event info will be available [15:04] every time i see "igg.me" i think "is this iggy pop's new website?" [15:05] arc__: have you tried checking with the fire starter community? not sure how many people in here will have used it and had to troubleshoot it before. [15:05] * mungbean has been burned by early adoption before [15:05] ok will try that [15:06] "rakishly chamfered edges" [15:06] hahaha [15:06] the Jony Ive kool aid has been well and truly swallowed :) [15:06] CHAMFERED EDGES, MOTHER****ER! [15:07] good lord [15:07] i just saw the goal amount [15:07] \o/ [15:07] yeah [15:07] it's... a lot [15:07] they want 32 million [15:07] Finally, you can also boot the phone into Android [15:07] MILLION [15:07] but I imagine that there might be some companies about to put some big money in [15:08] 0.001% of the way there already [15:08] into an untried device? [15:08] yup! [15:08] it's going up every time i refresh [15:08] oh, this is actually a Canonical thing? [15:08] it's really unclear [15:09] why do canonical need crowdfunded money to make a phone? [15:09] they are doing over a kickstarter like event? don't they have the money already? [15:09]