[00:04] <rannonga> XYZ: are you still there?
[00:07] <kontagious> usr there is no ubuntu drivers common
[00:09] <mikodo> Dr_Willis, Thanks, again: "A Flash-based solid-state drive is less suitable as a temporary-storage device for reading and writing due to the asymmetric read/write duration and due to wear." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporary_folder
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> mikodo,  of course theres many sites out about how people are overly paranoid about their flash drives wearing out. ;)
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> it should last you a few years with very little hassles. even if you abuse it. ;P
[00:10] <mikodo> Dr_Willis, :0
[00:11] <Dr_Willis> http://blogs.olin.edu/studentblog/2013/03/olins-strange-love-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-myself.html
[00:11] <Dr_Willis> oops wrong url. ;P
[00:11] <Dr_Willis> the ssd site/blog im looking for has a similer title. ;)
[00:12] <mikodo> Oh, OK ... I had starting reading :P
[00:12] <XYZAFFA1R> I am back
[00:13] <XYZAFFA1R> I cant delete any partitions
[00:13] <XYZAFFA1R> SO
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04/25/andrew_ssds_upgrade/
[00:13] <XYZAFFA1R> It looks like im not getting ubuntu
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> why cant you? or you mean you dont want to?
[00:13] <XYZAFFA1R> I want to
[00:13] <rannonga> XYZ: what are your partitions?
[00:13] <XYZAFFA1R> But what if something goes wrong?
[00:13] <XYZAFFA1R> THats the thing
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> http://wootangent.net/2013/03/dr-strangedrive-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-ssds/
[00:13] <XYZAFFA1R> I dont know what they are
[00:13] <XYZAFFA1R> I cant afford an ssd
[00:14] <rannonga> XYZ: could you please boot into windows 8
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> XYZAFFA1R,  people in #windows will tell you what they are
[00:14] <rannonga> XYZ: it should be easy to see from there
[00:14] <XYZAFFA1R> I know what an ssd is
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> if you got a revovery dvd set. then you should be able to reinstall windows later if needed from them
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> ssd info was not for you XYZAFFA1R ...
[00:14] <XYZAFFA1R> Oh ok
[00:14] <daftykins> XYZAFFA1R: are you wondering why your windows 8 system has 3+ partitions?
[00:14] <XYZAFFA1R> brb
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> im guessing its a windows 8  boot. windows 8 data, windows recovery tool partion, then the actual recovery partion itself
[00:15] <daftykins> sounds more like the UEFI spec on a GPT drive to me.
[00:16] <rannonga> XYZ: are you still there and what are you on atm?
[00:16] <rannonga> XYZ: i mean os
[00:16] <Dat> anyone have experience with gre? right now I have host-a and host-b talking to each other but when I have a client connect it all fails
[00:16] <dazrik> Hi all, I am looking to hire somebody to assist me in performing easy modifications
[00:16] <draconus> rannonga lol
[00:16] <Dr_Willis> if it was a GPT drive. then the installer should have been able to  resize/make more partions id think. unless of course they way they are arranged is causing the issue
[00:16] <dazrik> PM me please
[00:17] <Dr_Willis> dazrik,  thats rather vague job description.
[00:17] <Dat> very vague
[00:17] <rannonga> modifying your car?
[00:17] <Dr_Willis> use a hammer!
[00:17] <dazrik> Ok sorry, let me be more specific
[00:17] <rannonga> lol
[00:17] <draconus> !hammer
[00:18] <dazrik> Looking for somebody to assist me with changing the behavior of specific apps in ubuntu 12.04
[00:18] <draconus> it doesn't know...
[00:18] <dazrik> PM please if interested, decent payment
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> still rather vague.. and there are 'bounty' sites for paying people to code stuff...
[00:19] <dazrik> What are bounty sites ?
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> 'pay people to code stuff' :)
[00:19] <tbhyn> hello world!
[00:19] <dazrik> gun.io  for instance ? sucks hard
[00:19] <dazrik> tried it
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> $100 to fix  bug xyzpdq  in this....  and so forth.
[00:20] <mikodo> Nice read! I get it! Last paragraph: So I haven't stopped worrying entirely ... but given the performance improvement, the cost, and the new lease of life on my old machines, it's a trade-off I'm delighted with.And I back up, constantly. As should you
[00:20] <mickstep> dazrik: http://www.fossfactory.org/ is one
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> mikodo,  from what ive seen the livespan of new non-ssd drives seem lower then it used to be for the old drives from years back.. so i doubt if ssds are much worse. ;)
[00:21] <netlar> Hi all
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> but im also constantly (well yearly) upgradeing bits and peices of machines..
[00:22] <Lozzy> I think temperature is the HD's enemy - mine last when kept cool it seems
[00:22] <kontagious> her i got the hdmi output working with additional drivers but now the screen cuts off the edges
[00:23] <rannonga> thats some scanning crap
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> kontagious,  that would be your 'overscan' settings on the monitor most likely
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> I have several tv's that can disable overscan. (higher end models)
[00:23] <kontagious> it is a tv
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> some i cant. and have to use the config tools to tweak the settings
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> Higher end tvs are becomming more and more like a pc monitor all the time. ;)
[00:23] <rannonga> try going to ati catalyst monitor settings and set overscan to 0
[00:24] <mikodo> Dr_Willis, I also have on another install, a link that can explains how to considerably diminish the write times of SSD's in Linux. I will not worry, except I don;t have the link to offer to other readers now.
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> I had to disable several settings on my Samsung tv - for it to work 'best' as a computer monitor..  the stuff the tv did to make movies and shows look better.. made the desktop look worse.
[00:24] <kontagious> catalyst control panel is not installed i don't think
[00:24] <rannonga> forgot to ask ati or nvidia
[00:25] <kontagious> ati
[00:25] <rannonga> k
[00:25] <kontagious> when i had proprietary drivers installed it did it but I'm not sure with open source
[00:25] <babinlonston> Will the ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso Support Intel 61 motherboard
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> mikodo,  i just use one or 2 options to fstab for /  and thats about it. :)  in a few months ssds are coing to be cheaper.. i will get a bigger one and use it as my main drive. and move this one to  my older ubuntu box. :) progress
[00:25] <rannonga> oh so you have open source
[00:26] <rannonga> no wonder you dont have catalyst
[00:26] <kontagious> proprietary messed up display on restart
[00:26] <Ari-Yang> kontagious, you're still doing this? all you have to do is go to software sources, go to the additional drivers tab and select the driver, apply changes, then reboot
[00:26] <kontagious> reboot
[00:26] <Ari-Yang> kontagious, oh
[00:26] <Ari-Yang> yeah that figures
[00:26] <Ari-Yang> just stick with the open source one
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> neat thing about the Raspberry Pi and its disrtos ive noticed.. it (can) ask  if you got overscan on the monitor and enable or disable it as needed  :P
[00:26] <kontagious> the edges of the screen are now city of
[00:26] <Ari-Yang> and when you try plugging in your computer with hdmi kontagious run xrander --auto
[00:26] <Ari-Yang> in terminal
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> wonder how hard that would be to implement on ubuntu
[00:26] <XYZAFFA1R> So I am going to get an external for my birthday
[00:26] <XYZAFFA1R> IN october
[00:27] <babinlonston> ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso   can i installed it and will this Support all the Drivers for my Intel 61 HO motherboard
[00:27] <XYZAFFA1R> So when I do, I will install linux on that.
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> babinlonston,  test it out on the live dvd and see what all works.
[00:27] <XYZAFFA1R> untell then, I will use puppy
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> babinlonston,  we dont memorize hard ware specs here.
[00:27] <rOOb> Hello all. Does the 13.04 installer offer FDE options? Or do you still need the alternative installer image?
[00:27] <kontagious> xrandt not installed
[00:27] <rannonga> XYZ: xrandr
[00:27] <kontagious> xrandr
[00:27] <XYZAFFA1R> Bye
[00:27] <Intotherain> hello ,where i can get help? :)
[00:27] <rOOb> !fde
[00:27] <Intotherain> ubuntu 12.04 lts here.
[00:28] <XYZAFFA1R> xrandr?
[00:28] <Dr_Willis> !ask
[00:28] <rannonga> sorry
[00:28] <rannonga> forgot to remove your name
[00:28] <rOOb> !encryption
[00:28] <XYZAFFA1R>  kay
[00:28] <XYZAFFA1R>  Bye
[00:28] <babinlonston> ok Will Ubuntu 12.04 LTS for 61 series
[00:28] <rOOb> !brain
[00:28] <XYZAFFA1R> Thank you
[00:28] <Intotherain> i have trouble with installing Steam ,well i've instelled it with Software Center, everything must be right ,but when im trying to open it ,nothing.What to do?
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> Intotherain,  i had better luck downlioading the .deb from the steam web site and installing it that way.
[00:29] <Intotherain> with terminal?
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> actually i think the deb just installs the steam installer the user then runs and it actually THEN installs into the users home.
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> terminal works..
[00:29] <Intotherain> can you  guide me in query?
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> :)   there is a #ubuntu-steam channel also i think
[00:30] <OerHeks> there is an #ubuntu-steam channel here on freenode.
[00:30] <OerHeks> jups
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> remove steam witht he package manager.. download the .deb from the steam site.. install it.. run it
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> then it actually installs..
[00:30] <Intotherain> well i never downloaded deb file or install file like this
[00:31] <tex> Hello, I just dl'd Ubuntu Studio yesterday & am totally new to Linux & so have a couple of basic questions. 1) Which folder are the apps stored in on the directory tree?
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> steam is very very weird compared to other apps.
[00:32] <kontagious> xrandr is in x11-xserver-utils?
[00:32] <rannonga> kont: yeah
[00:32] <OerHeks> !find xrandr
[00:33] <kontagious> can't find it on apt-get or software center
[00:33] <OerHeks> !find randr
[00:33] <kontagious> arandr is there but no arandr --auto
[00:34] <Intotherain> Another question ,how i can:move taskbar on the top ,to bottom (like old ubuntu) ,and how to lock icons there ,instead of the left dock bar.
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> Intotherain,  you dont move the unity left side launcher panel.
[00:34] <rannonga> he meant the top taskbar with volume
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> if you want a bottom panel. use a dock for down there. or a differnt desktop.
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> you dont move the top panel either. ;)
[00:35] <rannonga> but i dont think its possible in unity
[00:36] <kontagious> Ari-Yang, how do i install xrandr on Ubuntu?
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> !find xrandr
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> if you install lxrandr it should pull in the needed xrandr tools
[00:37] <tex> Hello, I'm totally new to Linux. When I try to download an app or driver I get a password authentication window. Where do I go to setup the password?
[00:37] <kontagious> with apt get not software. thanks
[00:37] <Ari-Yang> kontagious, xrandr should already be installed
[00:38] <Ari-Yang> just type xrandr --auto in terminal and hit enter
[00:38] <Ari-Yang> if it isn't you should get "xrandr not installed sudo apt get etc. etc."
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> tex, Itb is the user password you login with
[00:38] <rannonga> tex: I don't understand
[00:38] <kontagious> it wasn't installed before. i got it installed and ran command successfully but it didn't work
[00:38] <tex> It's not accepting that password.
[00:39] <rannonga> tex: perhaps it is the default ubuntu stuff
[00:39] <doradodd> i have a vpn connection so i use some times on my unbuntu server 10.04, problem i getting when turning on the vpn is that noting can connect to my pc when that is in use teamspeak/red5 or any other service so runs from the outside. is it posible to do so when i have the vpn active people can still connect to my wan ip and connect to the teamspeak
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> tex, You in the account you have with installation?
[00:39] <bivu> Hello!
[00:39] <rannonga> hi
[00:40] <bivu> can someone test my name please?
[00:40] <tex> Acc?
[00:40] <somsip> !test | bivu
[00:40] <tex> Oh, I only setup one acc, so yes
[00:40] <vian> cek
[00:40] <bivu> Thanks, somsip ubottu
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> tex, You sure you have the password memorized and are typing it in correctly?
[00:42] <tex> As sure as I can be
[00:42] <kontagious> Ari-Yang, any other suggestions?
[00:42] <rannonga> tex: is this in the software centre or in the terminal with apt-get
[00:43] <tex> Software center & when trying to download flashplayer for YouTube
[00:44] <kontagious>  the edges of my tv are cut off and no audio
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> tex, Do you have auto login on, and has your user password worked as of yet when needed?
[00:45] <tex> I set it to auto
[00:45] <tex> Have not had to use password yet
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> tex, Run in a terminal sudo apt-get update enter password you will not seeit.
[00:46] <sunshinejay> hello guys, I'm using ubuntu 12.10 gnome, I can't connect to windows share. error is "Failed to retrieve share list from server".
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> how are you trying to connect sunshinejay ? can the  linux box ping the windows box?
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> tex, Sounds like you have not remembered it correctly, no biggie you can reset it, so I'm just trying to conform this.
[00:49] <Intotherain> How i can install graphics on my ubuntu 12.04 LTS?Nvidia GeForce GT 630M?
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> confirm*
[00:49] <tex> wilee-nilee I just remembered something about the password because of your question & now it's working. Thanks.
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> tex, Cool, enjoy
[00:50] <rannonga> Into: do you mean proprietary drivers?
[00:50] <BLZbubba_> i switched from ati to nvidia and removed fglrx.  however, what do I have to do to reconfigure the nvidia alternatives?  i had to manually link them after the last kernel update, e.g. nvidia_drv and libvdpau_nvidia
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> thats why you stick your password on a post-it-note :)
[00:50] <BLZbubba_> guess i could try dpkg-reconfigure first :P
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> BLZbubba_,  how did you install the nvidia drivers and remove the fglrx
[00:51] <Taek> idiot me, did sudo -l user
[00:51] <Intotherain> Well i will say it like that ,im new to ubuntu.I have both Intel and Nvidia but i need Nvidia graphics.
[00:51] <BLZbubba_> actually i had nvidia before i had ati so it was already there
[00:51] <BLZbubba_> i'll bet reconfigure fixes it
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> Intotherain,  you have an optimus system?
[00:52] <Intotherain> how?
[00:52] <BLZbubba_> but on the other hand, 640x480 looks great on a 30" screen
[00:52] <Intotherain> well i think so.
[00:52] <rannonga> lol
[00:52] <tex> Where is the Apps folder in the Directory Tree
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> then you need to install bumblebee  to enable turning on of the nvidia card/drivers and  use it for games
[00:53] <Intotherain> well i really need a query for this?can someone really help me.
[00:53] <Dr_Willis> tex,  apps folder?    there is no such thing in linux as far as i know.
[00:53] <Intotherain> with all i read ,something gets wrong from google.
[00:53] <rannonga> tex: yeah im not quite sure what you mean
[00:53] <tex> So there isn't a folder where you can view the application files?
[00:53] <Dr_Willis> tex,  echo $PATH     shows the paths searched for running stuff
[00:53] <Taek> Dr_Willis: why do I get lsb_release error - did a dist-upgrade from 10.04 and now i get this as error lsb_release fail
[00:53] <Dr_Willis> Taek,  no idea.
[00:53] <tex> OK thnx
[00:54] <rannonga> tex: if you know the name of the software you can use (whereis software) in terminal
[00:54] <Taek> maybe wrong depends?
[00:54] <Taek> or no depends installed
[00:54] <tex> Got it thnx
[00:54] <Dr_Willis> lsb_release just reads from a file in /etc/ i thought. ;)
[00:55] <tex> When you're poisoned by years of Windows use it tkaes an adjustment in thinking
[00:55] <Intotherain> After installing Bumblebee what to do?
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> windows dosent have to use a  c:/program files/ either tex .... its just common practice for them
[00:56] <rannonga> yeah you can install everything on desktop though that would be stupid
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> Intotherain,  no need to msg me.. I dont use bumblebee. so no idea.
[00:56] <Intotherain> And who can help me with thise drivers problem?
[00:56] <Intotherain> I have OpenGL problems and can't insteall one program.Need to fix my drivers(which arnt installed) so I can run the program.
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> bumblebee is very much a 'work in progress'  and may or may not work properly in every case.
[00:56] <Intotherain> Well no one is helping me with "work in progress".
[00:57] <Intotherain> I really wants to know how to install the drivers ,thats why I came here =)
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> it may be easier to just disable the intel chipset and enable the nvidia one in the bios if you can.
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> Intotherain, You get what you pay for. ;)
[00:57] <Intotherain> :))
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> free
[00:57] <Intotherain> Yes.
[00:57] <rannonga> Into: lol
[00:57] <Taek> Dr_Willis: seems to be a bug issue with teamviewer 8
[00:57] <Intotherain> Well still how to install Nvidia drivers?
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> Optimus breaks the standard way of doing things.. and ive never used an optimus system.  I imagine the askubuntu.com site has many hits/info on setting up bumblebee also.
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> since the forums are down. ;)  (they are still down?)
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> yes
[00:58] <Ficman> how long will they be down?
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> i imagine no one knows Ficman  ;)
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> until vb sets a fix, and they isolate the hack probably
[00:59] <BLZbubba_> Dr_Willis: ah i see, fglrx didn't really die
[00:59] <fabiobik> how to find the drivers for my graphic card?
[00:59] <fabiobik> i know its intel but its old
[00:59] <reisio> and if it was a vbulletin problem, the only sane course is to migrate all the data to another system
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> its not open source
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> intel drivers are normally included fabiobik
[01:00] <reisio> wilee-nilee: exactly
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[01:00] <reisio> in the end it always comes back to haunt you, closed source software :p
[01:00] <fabiobik> Dr_Willis, im talking about an evo d510 pc
[01:00] <fabiobik> from 2004 i guess
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> fabiobik,  ev0 d510 means very little to me.. if its using an intel video chipset - intel video drivers are normally included
[01:01] <fabiobik> Dr_Willis, i dont think its sucessfull installed
[01:01] <fabiobik> Dr_Willis how to test the drives? because in youtube videos its not fluid
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> fabiobik,  flash videos suck - is not a sign the drivers are wrong.. ;)
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> its a sign that flash basically stinks.
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> try the html5 mode on youtube perhaps?
[01:02] <fabiobik> Dr_Willis, but also in system the shadows are not showing correctly
[01:03] <fabiobik> appears black instead
[01:03] <fabiobik> How to know what graphic card its present?
[01:03] <reisio> sudo lspci | grep -i vga
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> lspci command shows that info
[01:04] <Ari-Yang> fabiobik, lspci | grep VGA
[01:04] <fabiobik> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[01:05] <ryanlin> anyone think they can help me out? New to linux, i'm trying to run steam, but it does not open
[01:05] <Ari-Yang> ryanlin, how did you install it? j/w
[01:05] <ryanlin> Originall I tried from steam's website and had the issue, removed it, then tried from the USC
[01:05] <ryanlin> both times, same result
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> and the result was?
[01:06] <ryanlin> Nothing happens.
[01:06] <Ari-Yang> tbh, I'm not sure :F
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> beat me to it Dr_Willis
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> and did  you try running it from a terminal and looking for error messages?
[01:06] <Ari-Yang> ryanlin, you mean it doesn't run?
[01:06] <ryanlin> Correct.
[01:06] <Ari-Yang> what Dr_Willis said, try running it in terminal
[01:06] <ryanlin> I tried from terminal, this is what I'm getting: xerror_handler: X failed, continuing
[01:07] <mikodo> Dr_Willis, Finally found it: This page was recommended to me for SSD LInux Optimization. And yes,  I am noticing everyone I m reading now, are saying also to put /tmp on the platter. Thank you: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[01:07] <ryanlin> Shot in the dark here through my searching, is it possible I have the wrong video drivers installed?
[01:07] <Ari-Yang> ryanakca, what card do you have?
[01:07] <Ari-Yang> ati? or nvidia?
[01:07] <Ari-Yang> ryanlin, and what ubuntu version are you running?
[01:08] <ryanlin> 12.04
[01:08] <Ari-Yang> what kind of card?
[01:08] <ryanlin> And I couldn't tell you on the card, it's a laptop I hadn't used in some time.  However, I have the AMD catalyst installed, but it willnot let me open, which leads me to believe it's nvidia
[01:08] <Ari-Yang> run this in terminal: lspci | grep VGA
[01:09] <Ari-Yang> and then copy and paste the output
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> mikodo, It says not in ram.
[01:11] <mikodo> wilee-nilee, OK
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> can we assume your calling the SSD platter here?
[01:11] <ryanlin> am i to type as: "lspci | grep VGA" ?
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> mikodo, Thats the link I use to set mine up I like it.
[01:12] <Ari-Yang> .........ryanlin, yes without quotes.....
[01:12] <Taek> Why I get this fail: wine: /home/taek/.config/teamviewer8 is not owned by you
[01:12] <ryanlin> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[01:12] <Ari-Yang> so it's intel...
[01:12]  * wilee-nilee thinks wine is fro drinking, period.
[01:12] <mikodo> wilee-nilee, NO. I will use a SSD for /root and spinning platter disk for DATA to symlink back to the /root installs on the SSD.
[01:13] <reisio> wilee-nilee: :)
[01:13] <Ari-Yang> doubt fglrx would have any affect for your card *shrugs*
[01:13] <Ari-Yang> at least you know what card you got
[01:13] <mikodo> wilee-nilee, Multiple /root installs on the SSD
[01:13] <ryanwin> so how do i uninstall the amd catalyst that's on here, and install the intel drivers?
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> mikodo, Ah, I have only room for one HD so I bought a 356 gig and run it all on it.
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> 256*
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> 4 OS's
[01:14] <xmetal> i saw someone in one of the other rooms last night that was trying to get Wine working ... on Windows
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> Taek,  check that all the files and dirs in your home are owned by you, not root.
[01:14] <mikodo> wilee-nilee, It could have been you that told me about the link. Thanks
[01:14] <Ari-Yang> ryang, I'd run sudo aptitude purge fglrx in terminal. but first, go to system settings -> software sources -> additional drivers tab
[01:14] <Ari-Yang> what do you see there?
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> Taek,  ls -al filename
[01:14] <xmetal> (thats a "doh!" moment)
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> might have been I don't follow the 20% not used though.
[01:14] <Taek> Dr_Willis: so uninstalling teamviewer 8 via apt requires that root owns the dir
[01:14] <Taek> ?
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> of the ssd unalocated
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> Taek,  UNinstalling somthing with apt - does NOT touch files in the users home  (at least not that ive ever seen)
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> heh actually 10%
[01:15] <ryanwin> okay, the only thing showing is my Boradcom STA wireless driver.
[01:16] <ryanwin> Broadcom*
[01:16] <Ari-Yang> okay, ryanwin in terminal what do you get when you run fglrxinfo
[01:16] <Taek> Dr_Willis: tell that to my computer - http://pastebin.com/QAuYVvH1
[01:16] <ryanlin> X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)   Major opcode of failed request:  154 (GLX)   Minor opcode of failed request:  19 (X_GLXQueryServerString)   Serial number of failed request:  12   Current serial number in output stream:  12
[01:16] <ikonia> Taek: you started teamviewer wrong
[01:17] <Dr_Willis> Taek,  why not just remove that directory its complaining about?
[01:17] <ikonia> Taek: or that package has been built incorrectly
[01:17] <Taek> not trying to start anything ikonia trying to uninstall it
[01:17] <ikonia> Taek: yes, but you started it wrong - hence why it has the wrong permissions
[01:17] <ikonia> Taek: I suspect if you check it's owned by root
[01:17] <Ari-Yang> ryanlin, how did you install fglrx? did you install it with sudo apt-get install fglrx?
[01:17] <Taek>  install package was made by teamviewer
[01:17] <Dr_Willis> ive never noticed an apt package remove try to clean out settings in the users home befor.
[01:17] <Taek> dpkg -i teamviewer.deb
[01:17] <ikonia> Taek: there we go then
[01:17] <Taek> was how I install it :D
[01:18] <ryanwin> lol, I can't say for certain unfortunately, I've typed a lot of things I've read on the internet today:(
[01:18] <ikonia> Taek: so either a.) you started it wrong b.) the package was built wrong
[01:18] <Taek> well, sudo dpkg -i teamviewer.deb
[01:18] <ikonia> Taek: repeating that doesn't change anything
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> Taek,  so look at the directory/file and see who owns it..
[01:18] <ikonia> root will own it
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> and remove it if you want to.
[01:18] <ryanwin> I've been using Ubuntu for all of 12 hours at this point
[01:18] <ikonia> (I suspect)
[01:18] <reisio> IIRC, teamviewer works best if you simply install wine via your package manager, and run teamviewer from the tarball (not deb)
[01:18] <Taek> Dr_Willis: Owner of that directory is me
[01:18] <mikodo> You guys are great. Thank you. Foss rocks!
[01:18] <reisio> Foss!
[01:18] <ikonia> Taek: owner of the file....
[01:19] <Taek> it's noit saying file, it's saying folder ikonia
[01:19] <Taek> ~/.config/teaviewer8/
[01:19] <ikonia> Taek: /home/taek/.config/teamviewer8 is owned by you ?
[01:19] <ikonia> ahhh wine
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> delete the directory then.
[01:19] <xmetal> been awhile since i used this distro
[01:19] <ikonia> ahhh you're running it via wine
[01:20]  * curatrix wonders if wine was running when Taek was trying to remove teamviewer
[01:20] <Taek> I didn't install it in wine XD.. it installed itself.
[01:20] <ikonia> it's wine that's complaining, not dpkg
[01:20] <ikonia> Taek: yes, the package is junk
[01:20] <Ari-Yang> ryanwin, type sudo aptitude purge fglrx fglrx_* fglrx-amdcccle* fglrx-dev*
[01:20] <Taek> that's how teamviewer is, junk ;)
[01:20] <ikonia> ...and yet you installed it
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> makes me wonder what would happen if you had 100 users that have used teamviewer would it try to remove alltheir configs also? thats scary
[01:20] <Taek> was looking up an error for another user :D
[01:20] <AbuAyyoub> Hello all. I was wondering if anyone here has any experience with Ubuntu Touch OS for mobile phones? I have an old, yet, awesome android phone that I would  love to install ubuntu on it.
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> AbuAyyoub, #ubuntu-touch
[01:21] <Ari-Yang> ryanwin, when you type it and enter your password and hit enter, is it uninstalling?
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> AbuAyyoub,  i imagine its only going to be avail for select phones
[01:21] <reisio> most handheld devices and tablets are locked down with secure boot
[01:21] <reisio> most that aren't will probably be fairly well supported
[01:21] <AbuAyyoub> Dr_Willis: I assumed as much. What is there out there for older phones?
[01:22] <Taek> oh well, it's gone now, thanks for inputs Dr_Willis ikonia
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> AbuAyyoub,  i imagine you will be out of luck  Unless some guys do some rom hacking for it. ;)
[01:22] <ryanwin> Responds: sudo: aptitude: command not found
[01:22] <reisio> AbuAyyoub: as far as OSes?
[01:22] <Taek> now maybe my lsb_release error will stop!
[01:22] <Taek> as it was due to teamviewer
[01:22] <reisio> ...
[01:23] <ikonia> Taek: lsb is nothing to do with teamviewer or wine
[01:23] <Ari-Yang> ryanwin, type sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx fglrx_* fglrx-amdcccle* fglrx-dev*
[01:23] <ryanwin> uninstalling
[01:24] <Ari-Yang> ryanwin, after, reboot, afk dinner
[01:24] <ryanwin> lol ok
[01:24] <Taek> no but the error was getting was cause by teamviewer -
[01:24] <reisio> you said
[01:24] <reisio> a few times
[01:24] <curatrix> wine: /home/taek/.config/teamviewer8 is not owned by you
[01:25] <Taek> ikonia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lsb/+bug/1094218
[01:25]  * curatrix is guessing that wine is conflicting
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> wonder which 'you' it ment. ;)
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> perhaps it ment its not owned by root.. since wine was getting ran as root?
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> and was conrused by the use of sudo
[01:26] <ikonia> use weak 3rd party packages, get bugs
[01:26] <Taek> well suggest to teamviewer.com to make better packages :D
[01:26] <ikonia> nope
[01:26] <reisio> Taek: use the tarball instead of the deb
[01:26] <curatrix> Taek: Try killing all wine processes and then uninstalling
[01:26] <Taek> I wont use teamviewer again here.
[01:27] <Taek> curatrix: already delt with it, thanks though
[01:27] <Taek> just deleted the folder and boom done.
[01:27] <usr13> curatrix: chown taek /home/taek/.config/teamviewer8
[01:27] <curatrix> Wine has obviously got a process in the stack that is active and using that directory .
[01:28] <usr13> curatrix: Or ls -l and see who it's owned by.
[01:29] <curatrix> the stack is using the directory ....it doesnt matter who owns it ....it wont let it delete/write as it would cause a conflict
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> just nuke it from orbit..
[01:29] <reisio> only way to be sure
[01:29] <Taek> It's dealt with guys.
[01:29] <Taek> and/or gals
[01:33] <usr13> curatrix: It?  Who is it?  ls -l ~/.config/teamviewer8/
[01:33] <billquantus> hi
[01:33] <mikodo> Dr_Willis, I have been rebooting all over the place, looking for the bookmark I showed on SSD optimization. I've missed some comments by you. 1/ I looked at using the fstab instance, but supposedly it doesn't work well with SAMBA, so I have chosen to learn to do basically the same thing with Symbolic links. 2/ I get that you are saying that SSD are lasting well and that you are suggesting the regular spinning platter disk, is better for
[01:33] <mikodo>  space allocation, especially with me booting up to 10 distro's at a time 3/ I appreciate the tip about SSD coming down in price soon. Maybe I'll wait before buying my SSD. Thanks.
[01:34] <carlosef> Quick question: I was working on a dual boot install. Does it make a difference to create the /boot partition as primary vs logical? I was able to install Ubuntu when I chose Primary and ext4 and I had not problems writing GRUB on this partition.
[01:34] <usr13>   I think I may be a bit late in this conversation....
[01:34] <billquantus> me2
[01:34] <rannonga> carlosef it shouldnt matter as long as you have less than 4 primary partitions
[01:35] <rannonga> but since its boot you should probably use a logical partition, because you can have unlimited logical partitions
[01:36] <Coburn> uh
[01:36] <Coburn> I tought you could only have 32 logical parititons
[01:36] <Coburn> on MBR
[01:36] <billquantus> how do i get my nvidia drivers for my laptop
[01:36] <rannonga> you must be right
[01:36] <usr13> carlosef: Doesn't make a difference, primary is ok, logical is ok too, use logical if you need to, (if you need more than 4).
[01:36] <rannonga> exactly
[01:37] <Coburn> Ideally
[01:37] <Coburn> make the boot partition primary
[01:37] <carlosef> rannonga I have never had issues with this, but this week was weird.
[01:37] <Coburn> and then you can have logical space for the OSes
[01:38] <carlosef> I ended up using a primary and /ext4 for /boot, and it finally worked, but it didn't make sense why...
[01:38] <mikodo> Dr_Willis, Use /tmp in larger disk for space allocation. OK I am done :(
[01:38] <rohff> hu
[01:38] <usr13> carlosef: It doesn't make a difference primary or logical.
[01:44] <goddard> where is my sftp mounts if looking from the command line?
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> i filled up /tmp/ befor on a small 15gb ubunti install once. ;P
[01:44] <goddard> im using nautilus
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> goddard,  in .gvfs somewhere
[01:44] <LeBouks> hello
[01:44] <goddard> Dr_Willis: it requires root privilages and it is empty when doing sudo su
[01:44] <Ari-Yang> ryanwin, did it work out with Steam?
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> goddard,  err.. dont use 'sudo su' and you are running nautilus as root?
[01:45] <goddard> Dr_Willis: no
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> any would sftp require root?
[01:45] <goddard> no
[01:45] <LeBouks> how do i unlock torrents
[01:45] <naryfa> gksudo nautilus
[01:45] <goddard> im trying to do this from the command line
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> LeBouks,  the question makes little sence.
[01:45] <goddard> the sftp is already mounted
[01:45] <goddard> using nautilus normally
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> goddard,   mounted how?
[01:45] <LeBouks> i'm not quite good with linux, i'm in saudi arabia
[01:46] <LeBouks> torrents are blocked
[01:46] <LeBouks> P2P
[01:46] <goddard> Dr_Willis: using nautilus' connect to server menu
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> goddard,  then they should be in ~/.gvfs/ somewhere as far as i know.
[01:46] <Ari-Yang> LeBouks, no they are not. you can torrent just fine in Saudi Arabia
[01:46] <Ari-Yang> unless you mean torrent sites....
[01:47] <ryanwin> Ari, it did thank you
[01:47] <Ari-Yang> ryanwin, nice :>
[01:47] <Ari-Yang> you're welcome
[01:47] <LeBouks> i can't even acces torrentz.eu
[01:47] <goddard> Dr_Willis: odd because it is empty even though I can see it mounted from nautilus
[01:47] <ryanwin> Now, to break something else
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> LeBouks,  use tor
[01:47] <harris> hello
[01:47] <Ari-Yang> LeBouks, yeah, sounds like to me some torrent sites are blocked. is thepiratebay.sx blocked?
[01:47] <goddard> LeBouks: or even better use a VPN
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> goddard,  i dont understand your ussage/mention of root/sudo su.
[01:48] <Prof_Ion> hey all o/
[01:48] <goddard> Dr_Willis: that mention is in reference to .gfvs file ownership/group
[01:48] <goddard> Dr_Willis: for some reason that folder is owned by the root user
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> .gvfs uses the fuse stuff, so that may be why it seems odd.
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> its special. ;P
[01:48] <goddard> obviously :D
[01:49] <LeBouks> dr willis, can you suggest a simple VPN, for exemple for windows i use CHRIS PC ANONYMOUS FREE PROXY
[01:49] <goddard> barf
[01:49] <LeBouks> yes all torrents sites are blocked in KSA
[01:49] <Kerim> LeBouks: I would avoid proxies, mate
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> LeBouks,  nope.. id say hit up google.
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> theres vpn's for $5 a mo out there.
[01:49] <goddard> even cheaper if you pay for the year
[01:49] <Prof_Ion> I was wondering if I might be able to get some help with a strange issue I am having
[01:49] <usr13> goddard: could it be because your using the filemanager as root?
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> i forget the name. saw an ad for them on omgubuntu  had $10 credit code.
 yes all torrents sites are blocked in KSA ---> now is the time to leave the country :b
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> digitalocean perhaps
[01:50] <goddard> usr13: im not though and never do
[01:50] <goddard> usr13: if i need to do something that requires root i just use the terminal
[01:50] <LeBouks> ari yang, lol thank you i'm leaving anyway
[01:50] <carlosef> thanks, good night
[01:51] <LeBouks> ari yang, i the mean time i need to download some movies
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> torrent SITES blocked.. is differnt then torrents being blocked.
[01:51] <Prof_Ion> hey could I get some help?
[01:51] <Ari-Yang> what Dr_Willis said...
[01:51] <usr13> goddard: Okay, well, reguardless of how it came to be owned by root, just chown it back to user.
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> Prof_Ion, State the problem to the channel for help.
[01:51] <Ari-Yang> you could probably get a hold of the .torrent file and still be able to leech
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> I just watch crunchyroll.com and dont even use torrents much any more.
[01:52] <Prof_Ion> I am having an odd error with Ubuntu 13.04 in which when I log in I get a blank screen. If I log in as guest I get a very distorted screen that is black on the right half.
[01:52] <usr13> goddard: But it appears that you are doing stuff that you only think requires root.
[01:53] <Ari-Yang> Dr_Willis, but not all of us enjoy streaming :b
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> Ari-Yang,  i record the shows. ;)
[01:53] <LeBouks> ari yang dr willis, so in case i get the "torrent" bittorent transmission will work ?
[01:53] <Ari-Yang> LeBouks, you could always like, download stuff from IRC
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> LeBouks,  how should i know.. try it and see. there are legal torrents you can test
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> !torrent
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> Prof_Ion, This a fresh install, and or have you installed any drivers?
[01:54] <Kerim> LeBouks: If you want to you can get the torrent file for Ubuntu
[01:54] <Kerim> LeBouks: and see if it works
[01:54] <Kerim> LeBouks: just for testing
[01:54] <Prof_Ion> Fresh install, and something I am sure you all hate to hear. I have NEVER used linux before
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> theres several 'legal torrent sites' out also
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> 'sita sings the blues' is worth torrenting. ;)
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> Prof_Ion, Heh no biggie, did the live cd show the desktop?
[01:55] <Prof_Ion> I had the same issue on the live CD
[01:55] <usr13> Prof_Ion: Not really.  It means that your questions/problems will more-than-likely be fairly easy to answer/solve.
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset Prof_Ion Try this link for a low graphic boot.
[01:56] <wilee-nilee>  !nomodeset |  Prof_Ion Try this link for a low graphic boot.
[01:56] <Venks> i get the message "hardware graphics not available" using vmware is there any remedy for this ?
[01:56] <Prof_Ion> alright I will try that and return with information thanks. :)
[01:56] <wilee-nilee> Prof_Ion, You will insert nomodeset in grub, you may need to tap the shift key at powering on to see it.
[01:56] <Prof_Ion> link doesn't work
[01:57] <for2go> ?quit
[01:58] <wilee-nilee> Prof_Ion, Heh, I forgot about the forum being down, Doh, So power on and at the grub menu hit e for edit and using the arrow keys to get to where you see no splash and put in nomodeset and hit esc I think to boot
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> esc then enter, anyone correct me here freely.
[01:59] <Prof_Ion> alright to get to grub I have to tap the shift key on startup? Like right when I start the computer?
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> Prof_Ion, Yeah if it is only ubuntu installed grub is bypassed, if you are seeing it just do the edit.
[02:00] <Prof_Ion> alright Let me reboot again :P
[02:00] <Prof_Ion> I held the shift key last time got a weird thing about keyboard issues
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> Prof_Ion, If needed we might use the tty a terminal type command line and see if a update and upgrade loads the drivers, do you know the graphic card?
[02:02] <Prof_Ion> sadly I do not know the graphics card. I know it is old
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> lspci should show info about the card.. if you can get to a console
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> Prof_Ion, Yeah as Dr_Willis willis says.
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> 'error: keyboard not found - hit any key to continue'
[02:04] <Prof_Ion> I can get the console to show just fine I just don't know how to use the tty commands and such. I can't ever seem to get it to let me log in
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> login:  enter username   then password...
[02:04] <Prof_Ion> yeah I enter username hit enter
[02:04] <Prof_Ion> then it says password:
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> and you type the password....... and hit enter...
[02:05] <Prof_Ion> so I enter my password and it says badloging
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> sounds like you got a wrong user or password
[02:05] <DWSR> What's the best way to recover information off of a suspectedly damaged USB flashstick?
[02:05] <Prof_Ion> use scandisk
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> DWSR, ddrescue to a image file then recovery fro the file
[02:06] <DWSR> Dr_Willis: ddrescue will just produce a bitstream, correct?
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> it can make an image file of the drive
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> bitstream means what? ;)
[02:07] <DWSR> Meh, you've answered my question.
[02:07] <DWSR> bitstream is just a stream of 1s and 0s.
[02:07] <Prof_Ion> still having said issue with log in which is odd. Because I checked the caps and such on my user name and password to log and it worked fine
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> so 'just produce a computer data file....' ;P
[02:09] <DWSR> Dr_Willis: Yeah.
[02:10] <Prof_Ion> got to grub!
[02:11] <DWSR> Also, good lord do I prefer the Ubuntu server installer.
[02:12] <shysoft> I installed ubuntu (kubuntu 13.04, actually) on my new retina macbook pro, and when I type on the keyboard strange things happen, as if the OS is detecting random keys are periodically being pressed. What could be wrong?
[02:12] <Ultrachili210720> hi to all
[02:13] <shysoft> (In chrome, for instance, focus will unexpectedly be redirected to the address bar, or other UI elements.)
[02:13] <paul_> double check they keyboard shortcuts?
[02:13] <paul_> is there certain keys that are triggering it? media keys, special function keys, etc?
[02:13] <LeBouks> it works now
[02:13] <Ultrachili210720> I have a guess?
[02:13] <LeBouks> thank you guys
[02:14] <draconus> i love socat!
[02:14] <draconus> and you should too ;)
[02:14] <shysoft> paul_: No, I could by typing 'a' and it might happen (It's like random, maybe 1/30 keystrokes will result in these 'phantom keys')
[02:15] <Prof_Ion> Wilee-nilee I got to grub now what exactly am I doing?
[02:15] <Prof_Ion> * wilee-nilee
[02:15] <shysoft> Has anyone successfully installed Ubuntu (or any other linux distro) on a Retina Macbook Pro? What Distro? What Version?
[02:16] <reisio> draconus: what do you use it for?
[02:17] <draconus> reisio: i just finished setting up a very nice traffic forwarder from one system to another (different network)
[02:18] <paul_> I can't imagine what that means, shysoft ; Definitely doesn't seem like it's certain keys that are triggering it then
[02:18] <draconus> reisio: the cool thing is that socat works in both directions plus there are so many options... you can even talk to a file over network :)
[02:19] <Prof_Ion> alright I got into grub and hit e so I can edit what do I need to change now?
[02:19] <draconus> reisio i was going to to go to bed early tonight but this thing took 3 hours to learn basics and study alot of nice examples, when you are bored please take a look :)
[02:20] <draconus> it's like nc on steroids to me :)
[02:21] <monkeyjuice> shysoft: http://randomtutor.blogspot.com/2013/02/installing-ubuntu-1304-on-retina.html
[02:21] <qiang> Anyone can tell me how to install "libdl" on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[02:25] <mikodo> Prof_Ion, maybe just wait a bit and ask your last question again. Both wilee-nilee and Dr_Willis are still on the channel. I think you are on track, and just need the next steps.
[02:25] <Celroc> I just logged on.  What was the question?
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> i dont even know what his problem is/was :)
[02:25]  * Dr_Willis is watching anime in another window. ;P
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> I was doing my yearly shave with a gas powered hedger
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> use 'lye' to burn it off.
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> mmmm lye
[02:30] <mikodo> wilee-nilee, Prof_Ion has a grub instance and is asking what to do next
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> yeah a graphic problem it seemed
[02:30] <kalaka> Who can I talk to about a question I have about the recent attack on UbuntuForums?
[02:31] <kalaka> any idea who the admin is?
[02:31] <usr13> qiang: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/1002672
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> kalaka, #ubuntu-forums or #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:31] <kalaka> thanks wilee-nilee
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> kalaka, Some of the admins hang on the forums one, but they only know what the site says.
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> mods anyway probably not the admin
[02:32] <kalaka> is there an email address? i really need to ask a question only UF admin can answer
[02:33] <kalaka> but UF is down, it was hacked recently
[02:33] <reisio> you don't say
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> kalaka, Not that I know of, I doubt they are accessible
[02:33] <reisio> kalaka: #ubuntuforums
[02:33] <reisio> a-hahah
[02:33] <reisio> they're installing vb again
[02:33] <reisio> won't learn
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> lol
[02:34] <Dako300> I have an X1600 card that will not work on my 2 GPU setup. I get no signal from the X1600 but a useable GUI from my old TNT2. How could I enable the other card. I have the radeon module loaded and running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Any help would be nice
[02:37] <Dako300> any help would be nice
[02:38] <Prof_Ion> alrighty I am back laptop crashed
[02:38] <Prof_Ion> so in grub what do I need to change for this graphic problem I am having?
[02:39] <naryfa> add the word "nomodeset"
[02:39] <Prof_Ion> where do I add it?
[02:40] <naryfa> http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-do-i-set-nomodeset-after-ive-already-installed-ubuntu
[02:43] <Dako300> Some help please
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> Prof_Ion, So hit e at the menu and insert nomodeset where you see no splash and hit esc then enter
[02:44] <Dako300> I have an X1600 card that will not work on my 2 GPU setup. I get no signal from the X1600 but a useable GUI from my old TNT2. How could I enable the other card. I have the radeon module loaded and running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Any help would be nice
[02:44] <Prof_Ion> alright lets see if this works
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> Prof_Ion, http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-do-i-set-nomodeset-after-ive-already-installed-ubuntu
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> I guess it is ctrl-x to boot Prof_Ion
[02:45] <Prof_Ion> yeah I got that one lol
[02:45] <naryfa> Prof_Ion: if it works, you will have to make a permanent change in /etc/default/grub
[02:45] <draconus> reisio did i hear it right? an attack on ubuntuforums? a hole in vb?
[02:46] <Prof_Ion> well now I get the default backround but non of the other things
[02:46] <reisio> draconus: I don't believe anyone has said what the vector was yet
[02:46] <reisio> but it's hard to not suspect vbulletin
[02:47] <reisio> the cracker's notice suggests it was a known exploit and not anything fancy, which further suggests vbulletin
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> Prof_Ion, Have you been able to login in yet at the tty getting there with ctrl-alt-f1
[02:47] <Prof_Ion> I will have to try and log in there
[02:47] <draconus> i used to use vb for many years and it never failed me, it was probably the most secure forum script to date
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> Prof_Ion, Or ctrl-alt-t and get a terminal
[02:48] <Prof_Ion> still cant get the darn thing to log in :/
[02:48] <naryfa> Prof_Ion: what graphics card do you have?
[02:49] <Prof_Ion> quite a good question my friend.
[02:49] <Prof_Ion> Got the computer today used from a friend. its an oldy
[02:49] <Dako300> I have an X1600 card that will not work on my 2 GPU setup. I get no signal from the X1600 but a useable GUI from my old TNT2. How could I enable the other card. I have the radeon module loaded and running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Any help would be nice
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> Prof_Ion, What is the computer and model?
[02:50] <Prof_Ion> let me check
[02:51] <Prof_Ion> there are no tags on it saying
[02:51] <Prof_Ion> but I could check the graphics card in the terminal
[02:51] <virtyx> Hey I don't really know how to phrase this as a question but I started a software update and it's been on the installing phase (not downloading) for an hour, in that time it's only reached 17%
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> Prof_Ion, does ctrl=alt-t bring up a terminal
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> ctrl-alt-t
[02:51] <virtyx> I feel like I could've installed a distro from scratch and been done by now... am I doing something wrong?
[02:52] <Prof_Ion> I have terminal
[02:52] <virtyx> I'm on Kubuntu and using Muon to update
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> Prof_Ion, Run lspci and look for the graphics info
[02:52] <naryfa> virtyx: restart the computer and open up a terminal and do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure
[02:52] <naryfa> virtyx: sorry, not sudo, kdesu
[02:53] <virtyx> naryfa: If I'm in the middle of installing will that break my update?
[02:53] <Prof_Ion> Nvidia NV5
[02:53] <Dako300> I have an X1600 card that will not work on my 2 GPU setup. I get no signal from the X1600 but a useable GUI from my old TNT2. How could I enable the other card. I have the radeon module loaded and running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Any help would be nice
[02:53] <naryfa> virtyx: it depends on many factors, some files will get updated, some will have to be redone
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> Prof_Ion, Graphics are not my strong point I have not had to load any in 6 years of use, but others know that part.
[02:53] <virtyx> naryfa: Er, rather will that break my system?
[02:53] <naryfa> virtyx: no
[02:54] <virtyx> naryfa: Oh alright. Thanks for the tip!
[02:54] <Prof_Ion> well that is what I found for my graphics card info
[02:54] <Prof_Ion> I do get the default background image now though
[02:54] <curatrix> Dako300: Will the x1600 work with the TNT removed?
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> Prof_Ion, Ah nvidia, lets see if a update upgrade works first run his sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:55] <Dako300> No, the computer will not even boot
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> this*
[02:55] <Dako300> the whole reason that the TNT2 is in there is because it is the only way to get past the POST
[02:56] <curatrix> Dako300: Has the x1600 worked previously on the same pc?
[02:56] <pedro1> hi everybody
[02:56] <Prof_Ion> alright wait how do I run that?
[02:56] <Prof_Ion> Just type it into the terminal right?
[02:56]  * Prof_Ion is a total newb
[02:56] <naryfa> Prof_Ion: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[02:56] <Dako300> I have gotten a terminal and on the live CD, I can get graphics but when I select use Ubuntu, then it complains about low graphics and crahses
[02:56] <pedro1> how do i do for apt-get stop asking for my sudo password?
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> asking?
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> how are you using apt-get ?
[02:57] <curatrix> Dako300: with the x1600?
[02:57] <pedro1> sorry i just got here
[02:57] <Dako300> Yes, the live CF graphics is coming from the X1600
[02:57] <Dako300> *live CD
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> Prof_Ion, Yeah type it into the terminal, however Dr_Willis is back, he knows the graphics way batter than I.
[02:58] <Prof_Ion> shit I am gonna have to take the damn thing downstairs
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> all i do lately is just install the drivers via the addatioanl-drivers tool and they work. ;)
[02:58] <Prof_Ion> my linux machine doesnt have an internet connection
[02:59] <ryanwin> Do you guys run Linux as your primary OS?
[02:59] <pedro1> @Dr_Willis asking can i install programs through apt-get install without having to type my password
[02:59] <pedro1> ?
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> ryanwin,  on some pcs i do
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> pedro1,  you can set up sudo to not ask for some apps.. but its not reccomended
[02:59] <pedro1> ah ok thanks, so i'd better set up a shorter password
[02:59] <Taek> what everyou do make sure 'sudo -l {user{' is not one of them!
[03:00] <naryfa> pedro1: type in: sudo visudo
[03:00] <naryfa> pedro1: and then scroll down
[03:00] <Dako300> Now I can only pull video from the TNT2 and there is No Signal from the X1600
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> ryanwin, From the beginning.
[03:01] <naryfa> pedro1: and change root    ALL=(ALL) ALL to root    ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[03:01] <curatrix> Dako300: is it possible that the x1600 is faulty?
[03:01] <naryfa> pedro1: and %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL to %admin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[03:01] <curatrix> Dako300: Or not compatible with the mobo
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> naryfa,  thats terriable to set it where sudo  dosent ask for all apps. ;)
[03:01] <Dako300> I would be pretty pissed at the eBay seller that sold me a broken "Used" item.
[03:01] <LeBouks> Does anyone know when viber desktop will be available for linux ??
[03:02] <Dako300> If it helps, the X1600 has some problems with older Dell boards
[03:02] <naryfa> Dr_Willis: I don't make decisions for people, I leave them at their free will, while I agree with you, I think it belongs to the user to decide.
[03:02] <curatrix> Dako300: Have you checked the voltages for both the mobo and the gpu?
[03:02] <Dako300> It is not compatible with the mobo, that is why I need the TNT2
[03:02] <Dako300> but I find it odd that I can pull graphics and text from it and it be faulty
[03:03] <Dako300> It is plugged into the AGP slot and I have plugged in the Molex connector into it.
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> LeBouks, How would anyone on the ubuntu support channel know that?
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> could be it needs moar power to run the gfx!
[03:03] <Dako300> I think a 480W power supply will churn out enough power for it.
[03:03]  * Dr_Willis wonders if anyone knows what a viber desktop is.
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> I do now
[03:04] <naryfa> Dr_Willis: isn't it that skype-like application?
[03:05] <kingbeast> what the permission mode to give all privileges to a folder for me (ie - chmod +477)?
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> here it is wine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KYo2nQaYW0
[03:05] <pedro1> Dr_Willis: Thanks a lot!!  Just, is it possible to specify which program the password should be asked?
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> in wine*
[03:06] <naryfa> kingbeast: +777
[03:06] <curatrix> kingbeast:  chown --help
[03:06] <naryfa> kingbeast: it is actually chmod 777 dirname
[03:06] <naryfa> kingbeast: it is actually chmod -R 777 dirname
[03:06] <ryanwin> Sorry for the stupid questions, on a Linux crash course here..  which gui is generally more preferred, Unity, or something like Gnome?
[03:07] <curatrix> gnome
[03:07] <ryanwin> Any specific reasons?
[03:07] <naryfa> kingbeast: 7 in binary is 111, which means it is on for each permission
[03:08] <curatrix> Linux user in general(not ubuntu exclusively) seem to prefer gnome
[03:08] <curatrix> *users
[03:08] <kingbeast> why does this thing keep saying invalid mode?
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> ryanwin, Unity runs on top of gnome 3 using just gnome can mean multiple possibilities
[03:08] <ryanwin> Oh, I thought it was an "either-or" type choice
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> gnome-shell  vs unity   ;)
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> try them both..
[03:09] <curatrix> vs KDE
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> you dont hear much about kde these days
[03:09] <pedro1> xubuntu beats all
[03:09] <ryanwin> I started with Unity right out of 12.04 install, and I'm using Gnome now
[03:09] <naryfa> kingbeast: what did you type exactly?
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> jwm+rox-filer! ;P
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> ryanwin, Gnome 3 is the default there is unity a compiz plugin on top the gnome-shell and the the fallback which is a pseudo gnome 2
[03:10] <wilee-nilee> Opps on top of gnome 3 not the shell
[03:10] <ryanwin> oi lol
[03:10] <pedro1> but i still prefer windows
[03:11]  * curatrix thinks that it explains where the love for xubuntu came from
[03:11] <kingbeast> naryfa, I got it nevermind.
[03:11] <wilee-nilee> no explaining taste.l
[03:11] <naryfa> kingbeast: cool
[03:11] <cdoty> can i get someone to help me get my vpn connection working.  I have gotten it to connect and it shows connected.  But my web traffic is not routing through it. any thoughts
[03:18] <martisj> we're looking to move our ubuntu servers from the us to aus. Is there a way to clone a cloud server and send it to another location?
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> martisj, You might ask in #ubuntu-servers
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> ive seen some vpn services have  a way you can dowload images.. but if those images were compatable with another vpn server maybe a bigger question
[03:19] <naryfa> martisj: do you have physical access to the server?
[03:19] <martisj> naryfa: no
[03:19] <martisj> it's hosted with rackspace,
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> martisj, Doh #unbuntu-server
[03:19] <martisj> cloud servers.
[03:20] <martisj> wilee-nilee: thanks
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> really wouldent you just need to copy over the installed packages. and the config and data files. not the whole server image.
[03:20]  * martisj joining servers chan 
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[03:20] <martisj> Dr_Willis: that would be the easiest indeed
[03:20] <martisj> is there a way to get a dump of what's been installed with apt-get?
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> !clone
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> that funny looking aptitude command. :)
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> there might be other ways also.
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages    Is what I use for a package list
[03:22] <wilee-nilee> thats everything though
[03:22] <wilee-nilee> Doh I mean dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages
[03:22]  * wilee-nilee lol at his self
[03:25] <DWSR> building kernel modules takes a while *yawn
[03:27] <Int19h> If you're building all the unnecessary ones
[03:30] <starkiller> lol help
[03:30] <starkiller> i need to open port 22 :P
[03:31] <martisj> wilee-nilee and Dr_Willis: thanks
[03:31] <martisj> i'll try that :)
[03:31] <martisj> this is awesome!
[03:31] <starkiller> netstat tells me its closed:P
[03:31] <Alegreya> theres  new ubuntu mint
[03:31] <curatrix> new?
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> there is no 'ubuntu mint'
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> its 'mint' :) and its not ubuntu.
[03:34] <curatrix> mint is downstream of ubuntu
[03:35] <naryfa> neue, nowa, novaya, new, nueva, baru, mpya, yeni
[03:35] <naryfa> it's a derivative
[03:35] <naryfa> they mean
[03:35] <me_ow> does anyone know that game where there's bubbles, and the new bubbles have numbers (i.e. 1-7), and you stack the bubbles and they pop. it's in the format of bejeweled.
[03:36] <Int19h> Starkiller: install openssh-server
[03:36] <curatrix> Im not sure but I think one of the early versions of Bubble Bobble had a number mode
[03:37] <naryfa> that was like Commodore 64 time
[03:37] <Halyard> !ot
[03:37] <Int19h> Bubble bobble
[03:37] <naryfa> Halyard: yeah, but nobody is asking anything on topic, say something and we'll be back on track
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> Puzzlebobble ;)
[03:38] <curatrix> Bubble Bobble, was dos/win95 era
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> I dont recall any numbers bubble bobble.. and i did have bubble bobble on my c64 i recall
[03:39] <meow> i think it was flash on a website
[03:39] <meow> maybe 4-5 years ago
[03:39] <meow> clean looking game
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> the various dos-emu sites might mention any similer games
[03:39] <meow> not bubble bobble... it was bejeweled style/candy crush like
[03:39] <naryfa> anybody used kingsoft office on Ubuntu?
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> yes
[03:40] <naryfa> wilee-nilee: did you install 32 bit libs?
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> naryfa, It just installed as is been awhile though I forget
[03:41] <naryfa> ok
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> I have W8 and word 365 and 2007 and 2010 I don't need it really
[03:42] <naryfa> well if you can afford it, why bother
[03:42] <naryfa> L(
[03:42] <naryfa> :)
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> naryfa, Student prices, and financial aid.
[03:42] <Int19h> I've never even heard of if
[03:43] <naryfa> Int19h: Kingsoft Office?
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> I used openofice and libreoffice for a longtime till I hat grad school.
[03:43] <Int19h> Mhmm
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> hit*
[03:43] <naryfa> Int19h: I like how it renders doc files, it doesn't actually break the formatting, as LO or OO does
[03:44] <rohff> hi guest129
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> naryfa, There are a cople of others that work well let me see if I can find them.
[03:44] <Int19h> I'll have to look into it
[03:45] <meow> got an answer elsewhere
[03:45] <meow> drop7 is the game
[03:46] <rohff> fine guest129
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> naryfa, If I remember lotus symphony worked well. http://www-03.ibm.com/software/products/us/en/lotusymp
[03:47] <nassepossu> hi, any ideas why touchpad doesn't work? It quit working after using ubuntu 13.04 a couple of days
[03:47] <Int19h> Oh its for windows
[03:47] <naryfa> wilee-nilee: Does that work on Ubuntu?'
[03:47] <Int19h> You probably inadvertently disabled ot
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> I'm checking
[03:48] <nassepossu> also in system settings the mouse & touchpad thing displays settings for mouse instead of touchpad as it used to
[03:48] <Prof_Ion> well I got an error while running that update for my drivers -.-
[03:48] <nassepossu> i have tried to enable it again via the fn+f7 key but no luck
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> naryfa, Yeah it does but it is a hunt to find the download and even more fun to install.
[03:48] <Int19h> Nasse: did you try using the fn key to toggle it
[03:48] <naryfa> Prof_Ion: what were you updating?
[03:48] <nassepossu> yeah
[03:49] <naryfa> wilee-nilee: probably compiling lol
[03:49] <Prof_Ion> graphics drivers
[03:49] <Int19h> Check your syllogism see if it's recognozed
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> naryfa, You have to register I believe. http://www-03.ibm.com/software/lotus/symphony/home.nsf/home
[03:49] <nassepossu> syllogism?
[03:49] <Int19h> Syslog
[03:49] <Int19h> Stupid phone
[03:50] <naryfa> Prof_Ion: you had nvidia, right?
[03:50] <nassepossu> uh, how?
[03:50] <Prof_Ion> yes I do
[03:50] <Prof_Ion> I got error code 1
[03:50] <Taek> administrator huh?
[03:50] <Taek> <3 your ip address
[03:50] <naryfa> Prof_Ion: how did you go about installing the driver?
[03:51] <Int19h> dmesg | grep -i synaptic
[03:51] <nassepossu> returns nothing dmesg
[03:51] <nassepossu> err.. Int
[03:52] <Prof_Ion> running sudo apt-get nvidia-current in the terminal
[03:52] <Int19h> Try it again but grep for mouse
[03:52] <naryfa> Prof_Ion: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[03:52] <Int19h> Or pad
[03:52] <nassepossu> mousedev: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
[03:52] <Prof_Ion> really? I am such a newb lol
[03:53] <Prof_Ion> brb
[03:53] <Int19h> imps?
[03:53] <Prof_Ion> the linux machine is downstairs as it needs internet
[03:53] <naryfa> Prof_Ion: I have a very nice way to install that thing, but you will have to bear with me
[03:53] <naryfa> Prof_Ion: we will exit the graphical server, and do everything in the command line
[03:53] <naryfa> Prof_Ion: if you want to
[03:53] <naryfa> Prof_Ion: of course
[03:54] <nassepossu> imps?
[03:54] <Int19h> lspci -vv
[03:55] <Int19h> And see of its listed in there
[03:55] <Prof_Ion> sure man I am willing to do just about everything to make that thing work
[03:56] <mikodo> naryfa, so I think he goes downstairs and runs command on his lappy and then comes upstairs and reports on another. Is that right Prof_Ion
[03:56] <naryfa> Prof_Ion: write these things down, and do them in the order I write.
[03:56] <naryfa> mikodo: it's okay
[03:56] <Prof_Ion> actually desktop is upstairs I just brought lapy with me :P
[03:56] <Prof_Ion> desktop is downstairs I mean
[03:57] <nassepossu> no it isn't
[03:57] <naryfa> Prof_Ion: 1. Press Ctrl+Alt+F1
[03:57] <naryfa> 2. login with your login and password
[03:57] <naryfa> 3. type in: sudo service lightdm stop
[03:57] <naryfa> 4. type in: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[03:57] <naryfa> 5. after installation type in: sudo reboot
[03:57] <FloodBot1> naryfa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:58] <naryfa> damn floodbot, I didn't flood
[03:58] <naryfa> wtf
[03:58] <naryfa> uhh!
[03:58] <naryfa> Prof_Ion: 1. Press Ctrl+Alt+F1
[03:58] <naryfa> 2. login with your login and password
[03:58] <naryfa> 3. type in: sudo service lightdm stop
[03:58] <naryfa> 4. type in: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[03:58] <naryfa> 5. after installation type in: sudo reboot
[03:58] <starkiller> hey sorry int i already did:P
[03:59] <holstein> naryfa: you are actualy still flooding.. just type more input.. and dont hit enter so much
[03:59] <doc|home> worse than that, he flooded the same thing, just twice...
[03:59] <naryfa> holstein: I can stop helping too
[03:59] <starkiller> wow now i see it its open :P
[04:00] <Prof_Ion> package nvidia 304 is not configured yet
[04:00] <holstein> naryfa: i for one, apprciate your assistance in the channel, but it is a concern, to keep the channel clear, that im sure you wont mind to take into account while you are graciously sharing your time
[04:00] <holstein> !enter > naryfa
[04:01] <Prof_Ion> processing nvidia current
[04:01] <Prof_Ion> dependency problems
[04:01] <holstein> Prof_Ion: you have a PPA added?
[04:02] <Prof_Ion> no
[04:02] <Prof_Ion> don't even know what that is
[04:02] <holstein> Prof_Ion: run "sudo apt-get update" and share any errors in pastebin
[04:02] <Prof_Ion> no apport report written because MaxReports is reached already
[04:03] <Prof_Ion> I cant pastebin things on the linux pc
[04:03] <Prof_Ion> unless it has a pastebin thing built in
[04:04] <Prof_Ion> doesn't seem to give any errors at all holstein
[04:05] <holstein> Prof_Ion: what error are we dealing with then?
[04:06] <Prof_Ion> graphical issues with the desktop
[04:06] <holstein> !nvidia > Prof_Ion
[04:07] <holstein> Prof_Ion: ^ thats what i always refer to... are you trying to install the driver from the repos?
[04:08] <Prof_Ion> I am trying to make the OS work. I get nothing but a colorful screen when I log in, and if I log in as guest I have everything but its distorted on the left half and black on the right
[04:08] <mikodo> Prof_Ion, dependency errors right when processing nvidia current
[04:08] <erasmus> http://ubuntuforums.org/announce.html?t=963878
[04:08] <erasmus> does everyone know about this?
[04:09] <Prof_Ion> yes that is what I am getting mikodo
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> yes manty anyway
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> many*
[04:10] <holstein> Prof_Ion: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current ..pastebin errors
[04:10] <holstein> Prof_Ion: you can paste them manually in http://paste.ubuntu.com/ if you need.. thanks!
[04:11] <nassepossu> apparently hardinfo either can't find any mouse devices
[04:11] <Prof_Ion> it would take ages to type the errors
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> Prof_Ion, YOu can open another terminal and type firfox
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> firefox*
[04:12] <Prof_Ion> the graphics aren't working
[04:12] <Prof_Ion> like EVERYTHING is near impossible to read
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | Prof_Ion
[04:13] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> Prof_Ion, That link tells you how to install a from the terminal to pastebin.
[04:13] <holstein> Prof_Ion: you can use the vesa driver... you can try nomodeset.. you can use commandline only via tty
[04:13] <holstein> !tty | Prof_Ion
[04:14] <holstein> Prof_Ion: i realize, understand, and identify with your frustrations.. but you are dealing with some hardware that cannot be easily supportd by linux, so your patience, and troubleshooting will be necessary to "fix"
[04:16] <Prof_Ion> I understand that. I am just trying to understand how to paste bin the stuff. you said I could do it directly from the tty?
[04:16] <holstein> Prof_Ion: you can, assuming you have internet connection, install the application wilee-nilee suggested, and use it from tty, where you will not be dealing with the current graphics issues you have
[04:17] <Prof_Ion> okay thank you
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> Prof_Ion, Run sudo apt-get install pastebinit then it is any command | pastebinit
[04:17] <Guest89811> huhuuu
[04:18] <Prof_Ion> okay
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> command | pastebinit then shows the url Prof_Ion
[04:18] <Prof_Ion> thanks
[04:18] <nassepossu> oh well, i'll come back for help later on :/
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> no prob you have been trying hard
[04:18] <Prof_Ion> sorry if I am being a bit of an ass. EXTREMELY tired atm but I won't sleep till this works
[04:19] <Tschennieh> yo
[04:19] <Der_FIIIIIIISCH> yo bro
[04:19] <Taek> yo?
[04:19] <Taek> yo is not a valid question Tschennieh
[04:20] <Celroc> Taek: Sure it is!  It had a question mark in front of it!
[04:20] <Tschennieh> Das ist ne Begrüßung aldaaaah
[04:20] <Der_FIIIIIIISCH> hab die hoseeee voll
[04:21] <twenty-three> hi, i am trying to set up mounting of Box (cloud storage) on ubuntu 13.04 according to the instructions in http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/03/mount-box-cloud-storage-in-ubuntu-12-04-11-10/ howeverthe instructions are for ubuntu 12.10 and the "connect to server" window is significantly different so I don't seem to be able to follow the instructions, presumably it can be done from the...
[04:21] <twenty-three> ...terminal? i just don't know how to go about it
[04:21] <Der_FIIIIIIISCH> im looking for new foot
[04:22] <Der_FIIIIIIISCH> i like big feet
[04:22] <cfhowlett> Der_FIIIIIIISCH,
[04:22] <Halyard> !op
[04:22] <Tschennieh> wow u can speak english
[04:22] <cfhowlett> Der_FIIIIIIISCH,  then you are in the wrong channel
[04:22] <Tschennieh> spaam
[04:22] <Der_FIIIIIIISCH> whyy?
[04:22] <cfhowlett> !ops|Der_FIIIIIIISCH, freaky fetish
[04:22] <Tschennieh> hes masturbating every time v.v
[04:23] <holstein> twenty-three: have you tried gigolo?
[04:23] <holstein> !info gigolo | twenty-three
[04:23] <Der_FIIIIIIISCH> re
[04:23] <Tschennieh> mean
[04:23] <twenty-three> holstein, hadn't heard of it, i'll give it a try
[04:23] <elky> Der_FIIIIIIISCH: please behave according to the guidelines
[04:23] <twenty-three> brb
[04:23] <cfhowlett> elky, he has no interest in the guidelines and he doesn't belong here
[04:23] <Der_FIIIIIIISCH> do you like feet? elky
[04:24] <elky> Tschennieh: i just saw what you said before. you need to follow guidelines too
[04:24] <Masturbater90000> xDDDD
[04:24] <cfhowlett> !ops|Masturbater90000,
[04:24] <Masturbater90000> ujgfkdl
[04:28] <twenty-three> holstein: it worked really well!, thanks a lot holstein
[04:29] <holstein> twenty-three: enjoy!
[04:32] <guzzlefry> can the installer for Ubuntu Server 12.04 walk me through setting up a mirrored RAID?
[04:33] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu-server|guzzlefry,
[04:33] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|guzzlefry
[04:33] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server  guzzlefry
[04:34] <guzzlefry> got it the second time, thanks
[04:35] <cfhowlett> guzzlefry, best of luck
[04:35] <countz> I hate those annoying popup notifications in unity, can I make it so that when I click them, it opens the relevant app that produced the notification?
[04:36] <guzzlefry> Any reason to actually use LVM? Is that the default for the desktop version as well?
[04:36] <guzzlefry> Single disk here for the moment.
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> guzzlefry, Desktop no.
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> I thought lvm was a choice not a default
[04:40] <goddard> .gfvs is empty
[04:41] <goddard> even though I mounted some sftp directories with nautilus
[04:41] <guzzlefry> It's selected by default on the server build. Guess I'll start over without it. :P
[04:50] <aerosforce> #ubuntu-es
[04:51] <92AAAFRXU> !es|aerosforce,
[04:52] <wilee-nilee> aerosforce, /j #ubuntu-es
[04:52] <myersg> hey, I was wondering is there a way I can edit my system details?  I want it to look like my computer has less ram than it does
[04:53]  * 92AAAFRXU ... not even going to ask ... ah, HELL
[04:53] <tr0n> umm just take out a stick of ram
[04:53] <92AAAFRXU> myersg, why?
[04:53] <myersg> I only have one stick.
[04:53] <Random832> myersg: why do you want to do that
[04:53] <myersg> for reasons 92..lol
[04:53] <myersg> can it be done?
[04:53] <Random832> probably not
[04:53] <Random832> it's such a bizarre thing to want
[04:53] <tr0n> doubtful
[04:53] <myersg> hmm
[04:54] <tr0n> it'd have to be done on the machine level, even if possiable
[04:54] <myersg> You know how you go into system settings, and than details..,
[04:54] <myersg> it will show memory
[04:55] <myersg> It is showing 3.6 GiB
[04:55] <myersg> I need it to show 1.9
[04:55] <guzzlefry> err, why?
[04:55] <myersg> ...my ram chip went out.. I stole one from my brothers computer
[04:55] <goddard> hahah
[04:55] <guzzlefry> haha
[04:55] <guzzlefry> wow :P
[04:55] <brucewhealton> I was wondering if someone could help me.  I setup ubuntu server 12.04 and updated php to 5.5.0 using phpbrew.  Later i tried to install drupal and it said i need php extensions enabled.
[04:56] <myersg> but its a 4gb, I had a 2...,
[04:56] <goddard> brucewhealton: sounds like you need to enable php extensions
[04:56] <guzzlefry> myersg: Best keep him away from your box.
[04:56] <myersg> he discovered on the other computer it is now saying 6gb and not 8.  ..
[04:56] <goddard> brucewhealton: and you know php can be managed with debian packages haha
[04:56] <myersg> he has asked to see my system settings etc..
[04:56] <xangua> myersg: man up
[04:56] <penos> how to use ubuntu
[04:56] <brucewhealton> I would think there are many extensions.
[04:56] <goddard> brucewhealton: you dont need phpbrew or what ever mac crap that is
[04:56] <tr0n> dont steal, give back his ram
[04:56] <cfhowlett> !details|penos,
[04:57] <myersg> well..it's not really his in the first place..long story.
[04:57] <holstein> penos: try if from a live CD, and get some detailed questions to ask about it
[04:57] <brucewhealton> Anyway, it lists gd extension is needed.
[04:57] <tr0n> mastershake dont irc as root, add a regular user and use that to irc
[04:57] <goddard> brucewhealton: dont use phpbrew and you will have no issues
[04:57] <goddard> brucewhealton: use apt-get
[04:58] <goddard> brucewhealton: this isn't mac or crappy ruby
[04:58] <guzzlefry> myersg: Anyway, no real way to hide it. RAM is cheap, give it back and order some. :P
[04:58] <myersg> so I take it there is no way to just edit a file?
[04:58] <penos> who stole my ram? hahaha
[04:58] <goddard> myersg: you could probably compile that program from source
[04:58] <brucewhealton> I tried sudo apt-get install php5-gd and it couldn't find it
[04:58] <cfhowlett> myersg, or, and I know this is crazy, you could MTFU and say, "Yo, bro.  I gotta tell you something ..."
[04:59] <goddard> and edit that particular variable
[04:59] <penos> steal more ram so he doesnt suspect u
[04:59] <myersg> lol
[04:59] <goddard> brucewhealton: DUDE uninstall phpbrew and all that crap and reinstall php completely
[04:59] <brucewhealton> No this is a pentium d system w ubuntu server 12.04
[04:59] <goddard> brucewhealton: it is seriously like the easiest thing to setup in Ubuntu Server
[05:00] <goddard> brucewhealton: it is apart of the installer for Ubuntu Server
[05:00] <brucewhealton> Ok, what's the easiest way to  remove phpbrew
[05:00] <goddard> brucewhealton: save all your crap you have and reinstall ubuntu server is probably the easiest
[05:01] <brucewhealton> I'm having trouble getting it to boot from usb
[05:02] <brucewhealton> And if that isn't strange enough the dvd drive won't eject
[05:03] <goddard> brucewhealton: dude you sound like you got a mess on your hands
[05:03] <brucewhealton> Yeah, so is it possible tô start a reinstall from within ubuntu
[05:05] <brucewhealton> I installed the kubuntu desktop, so maybe i just need to boot to a command prompt.
[05:07] <brucewhealton> I guess i should open it up and find out why the dvd won't eject
[05:10] <freedom__hawk> #ubuntu
[05:10] <penos> hi
[05:11] <penos> !lyx
[05:11] <penos> !emacs
[05:12] <penos> !code
[05:15] <SunStar> What is there available to edit flash projects?
[05:16] <doc|home> SunStar: windows/mac + adobe flash
[05:16] <doc|home> or wine + adobe flash if you're lucky
[05:17] <penos> wine is rubbish :\
[05:17] <penos> just use winodws + virtual box
[05:17] <curatrix> wine is awesome
[05:17] <SunStar> yeah id rather do windows in vm than use wine
[05:19] <DuncanNZ> yeah I've only had bad experiences with wine – not working and then leaving rubbish all over the system…
[05:20] <whoever> DuncanNZ: then quit drinking wine next to you box :-)
[05:20] <DuncanNZ> whoever: ha lolll
[05:21] <tr0n> thats how the kiwis get the reputation for being sheep shaggers, they get drunk and go to a farm
[05:21] <Guest46915> hi everyone, i'm new over here. could someone help me get python on xubuntu?
[05:21] <whoever> drow-ubvm__: try winblowz vm
[05:21] <tr0n> Guest46915: sudo apt-get install python
[05:21] <DuncanNZ> Guest46915: sudo apt-get install python
[05:21] <DuncanNZ> tr0n: oh lol
[05:21] <DuncanNZ> exact same
[05:21] <Guest46915> thanks!!
[05:23] <Xionkana> Hi guys! Anybody mind if I ask a regular expression question?
[05:23] <DuncanNZ> Xionkana: go ahead... but I can't help
[05:24] <penos> DuncanNZ: do you have fast speed internet?
[05:24] <penos> or dial up
[05:24] <Xionkana> DuncanNZ: Just wanted to make sure I wouldn't be publicly shamed or anything, damned regex is hurting my brain.
[05:24] <DuncanNZ> penos: broadband
[05:24] <DuncanNZ> why
[05:24] <penos> cool
[05:24] <penos> just asking ;)
[05:25] <causasui> hi, how much space should I allocate to the / partition for a new install of ubuntu 13.02 desktop?
[05:25] <DuncanNZ> ?? why
[05:25] <penos> curios
[05:25] <DuncanNZ> why me?
[05:25] <Equinox3> causasui: probably over 10 GB
[05:25] <DuncanNZ> low ping time or something
[05:25] <Xionkana> I'm trying to get a substring from a outputted line which looks like "         <raw_text>foo bar</raw_text>".
[05:25] <causasui> Equinox3: 40gb is overkill? more like 15gb better?
[05:25] <causasui> with a separate /home
[05:26] <Equinox3> causasui: i said over 10 GB
[05:26] <Equinox3> not 40 GB
[05:26] <causasui> yeah, i had it set to 40, curious what the ceiling would be
[05:26] <sajan> causasui, how you you allocate / kind of depends what you're allocated or partioning elsewhere.  There's no 'right' amount.  If you're doing a basic desktop install and don't have any special requirements, just let Ubuntu do it for you.
[05:26] <guzzlefry> Xionkana: which language?
[05:26] <causasui> sajan: i have 40mb for /boot, 6gb for swap, and now allocate a further 250 or so gb between / and /home
[05:27] <Xionkana> guzzlefry: Just a bash script.
[05:27] <causasui> is 15gb safe for / ?
[05:27] <guzzlefry> ah
[05:27] <somsip> Xionkana: this should give you a starting point, using sed http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3588782/extract-html-tag-data-with-sed
[05:28] <Xionkana> somsip: Cheers :)
[05:28] <Equinox3> causasui: it really depends on what you plan to do afterwards, as all the installations are going to go on / partition.
[05:28] <ox8085_> unable to patch my wireless card bcm4312 for packet injection
[05:29] <causasui> Equinox3: i use archlinux but this is my gfs computer. she pretty much just browses internet, writes email, and writes poetry in office
[05:29] <Equinox3> i'd recomend minimum would be 10 GB
[05:29] <causasui> so I dont think she will be installing any huge database apps or what have you
[05:29] <tr0n> then you dont need 250gb for /home unless ur not dual booting another os
[05:29] <causasui> then i dont need 270gb for / either >_>
[05:30] <Equinox3> nope
[05:30] <causasui> i'm trying to figure out how much space ubuntu 13.02 will take up after being installed
[05:30] <ox8085_> unable to patch my wireless card bcm4312 for packet injection
[05:30] <causasui> anybody know?
[05:30] <Equinox3> max 5 GB i think on /
[05:31] <causasui> okay i'll go with 15gb for / then, thanks
[05:31] <penos> that shud b fine
[05:31] <Equinox3> np
[05:31] <causasui> penos: ya i kno
[05:31] <Equinox3> also swap doesn't have to be 6 gb
[05:33] <doc|home> anyone able to help me with this? http://www.skynet.ie/~doc/example.jpg I can't seem to get the xorg config to work, though everything seems like it should be fine. http://pastebin.com/jeM8RTdL
[05:33] <tr0n> doc u in Eire?
[05:34] <teslaSpam> did you Xorg -configure
[05:34] <doc|home> tr0n: originally from, yeah not there now
[05:34] <tr0n> slan
[05:34] <doc|home> teslaSpam: nope, was worried that would kill what I have
[05:34] <doc|home> tr0n: bye
[05:34] <Xionkana> somsip: Thanks, that worked beautifully!
[05:35] <somsip> Xionkana: np
[05:35] <tr0n> 26 + 6 = 1
[05:35] <teslaSpam> you were afraid it would overwrite an existing one?
[05:36] <doc|home> teslaSpam: yeah, I can copy it out, but didn't think it should require that much of a change
[05:37] <teslaSpam> doc you want to know where the default xorg config file is?  /etc/X11/..... i think
[05:38] <doc|home> teslaSpam: thanks, yeah, I know, just thought it would be something I could get working without that, just by editing it.
[05:40] <teslaSpam> doc- when im having xorg iss
[05:41] <ayham> hi!!
[05:41] <teslaSpam> i   Xorg -configure .... worth a try
[05:42] <teslaSpam> gluck
[05:47] <Lazuroth78> Hello how is every one
[05:47] <Celroc> Lazuroth78: Doing well, thank you.  And yourself?
[05:48] <Lazuroth78> I am ok
[05:49] <Lazuroth78> not sure what i am doing as far as setting up xchat installed it and my it person is not around lol
[05:49] <guzzlefry> Lazuroth78: It's installed?
[05:49] <Celroc> Haven't really used Xchat much, sorry.  Can't really help you there
[05:50] <Lazuroth78> yes
[05:50] <Lazuroth78> I think I am new to ubunto I am not sure how that all works
[05:51] <nano-> Will GTK 3.10 be used for Ubuntu Saucy 13.10?
[05:51] <nano-> or it will stick with 3.8?
[05:51] <Lazuroth78> I have ubunto 12.04
[05:52] <guzzlefry> Lazuroth78: I'm not too familiar with Ubuntu either, but check the menus for Xchat.
[05:52] <Lazuroth78> lol
[05:52] <cfhowlett> !saucy|nano-,
[05:53] <khairul> hai
[05:53] <Lazuroth78> Does any one know how to update ubunto or will it do it on it own
[05:53] <cfhowlett> Lazuroth78, UBUNTU will update automatically if set to do so ...
[05:54] <Lazuroth78> were do I find out if it is set up to do so
[05:54] <cfhowlett> Lazuroth78, are you trying to update 12.04 or upgrade to a newer version
[05:54] <Taek> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:54] <Taek> ??
[05:54] <Lazuroth78> newer version
[05:54] <Lazuroth78> ok
[05:55] <Taek> Lazuroth78 that wont upgrade you to a new distro version
[05:55] <cfhowlett> Lazuroth78, 12.04 is supported for 5 years.  the newer versions are not ... are you sure you need the newest version?
[05:55] <Lazuroth78> no
[05:55] <Lazuroth78> not sure on any thing
[05:56] <cfhowlett> Lazuroth78, lol.  okay.  I humbly suggest you stick with 12.04 but get all the updates for it
[05:56] <cfhowlett> Lazuroth78, from a terminal, run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:56] <Lazuroth78> so the sudo apt-get upgrade that will get me the newest updates right
[05:56] <cfhowlett> Lazuroth78, for 12.04
[06:00] <Lazuroth78> Good nite yall I need to get sleep screen is in triplets now
[06:00] <Lazuroth78> lol
[06:03] <prgCoderAU> anyone seen this - http://ubuntuforums.org/announce.html
[06:03] <guzzlefry> yes
[06:04] <prgCoderAU> bit weird huh?
[06:04] <guzzlefry> That's been up for a while.
[06:04] <prgCoderAU> last week we decided to use ubuntu but now....
[06:05] <Taek> They are probably trying to figure out how the breech happened, so they can patch it and look for other possible exploits of the same method before thet restore it
[06:06] <Taek> Just my guess about it.
[06:06] <jjseeker> Hello
[06:06] <jjseeker> what's up everyone
[06:06] <Ari-Yang> disappointing it happened.....though never made an account on the forums
[06:06] <Taek> also it is probably giving them time to upgrade the forums
[06:06] <Ari-Yang> jjseeker, for off topic stuff join #ubuntu-offtopic like if you want to chat
[06:06] <jjseeker> k
[06:09] <prgCoderAU> i have just set up a ubuntu server - edited the interfaces file and restarted the networking, but the new ip address is not in the /etc/hosts file, any ideas?
[06:09] <prgCoderAU> but I can connect to it using ssh...
[06:10] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu-server|prgCoder,
[06:10] <prgCoder> cfhowlett: thanks
[06:11] <prgCoder> cfhowlett: there is NO ONE in that channel...................................
[06:12] <geri> hi how can i fix this issue? kernel headers for the target kernel version could not be found and you did not specify other valid kernel headers to use
[06:12] <cfhowlett> prgCoder, that happens at times.  I always imagine the sysadmins happily percolating their ubuntu boxes ... anyway, post your details here.
[06:12] <geri> i already downloaded the kernel headers related to the kernel displayed uname -r
[06:13] <Taek> percolating... serious with that?
[06:14] <Ari-Yang> geri, you have the headers and the headers all as well?
[06:14] <Ari-Yang> geri, copy and paste the output of uname -r
[06:14] <geri> headers all?
[06:14] <Ari-Yang> yes....
[06:14] <guzzlefry> Are Virtualbox Guest Additions not in the package repo?
[06:14] <Ari-Yang> perhaps you need those *shrugs*
[06:15] <Ari-Yang> geri, what kernel are you running on?
[06:15] <geri> Ari-Yang should it get them via sudo module-assistant prepare
[06:15] <geri> _
[06:15] <Kartagis> does anyone know why this is happening? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11918318/Screenshot%20from%202013-07-22%2009%3A13%3A01.png
[06:15] <geri> Ari-Yang, 3.8.0-19-generic
[06:16] <Celroc> Kartagis: What's it doing wrong, specifically?
[06:17] <geri> Ari-Yang, any idea?
[06:17] <Kartagis> Celroc: all the icons are question marks as you see. this happens random. on Friday, only 1 was like this. and today this...
[06:18] <Celroc> Kartagis: Oh, yes, I see.  Hmm, I haven't had much use with a dock for a while, sorry.
[06:19] <cfhowlett> guzzlefry, don't think so.  you need to manually add them.  g
[06:19] <Ari-Yang> geri, type in terminal apt-cache search linux-headers-3.8.0-19
[06:19] <Ari-Yang> and then pastebin the output
[06:20] <Taek> there should be an app by now for something similar to whatever cmds | pastebin
[06:22] <curatrix> pastebinit ?
[06:23] <Taek> ^
[06:25] <energizer> I'm having trouble watching a video in vlc -- the screen is just black, so i disable hardware acceleration as suggested by google, and then its very jerky and slow. Not sure what to do.
[06:25] <penos> !windows | energizer
[06:26] <Ari-Yang> energizer, I recommend mplayer, mplayer2, or mpv (new fork of mplayer). but go to preferences in VLC and go to 'Video', what is the output?
[06:26] <energizer> penos VLC is not microsoft software, im on raring
[06:27] <Ari-Yang> energizer, try VLC with OpenGL video output or XVideo
[06:27] <energizer> Ari-Yang: At the moment, accelerated video output (overlay) is disableed
[06:27] <energizer> deinterlacing off, mode blend
[06:27] <Ari-Yang> no, the Output
[06:28] <Ari-Yang> energizer, check this screen shot http://gyazo.com/25a00f5894c82a4844b73a642782c9ff (see the drop down menu of Output, it's blue and set to OpenGL)
[06:28] <energizer> oh
[06:28] <energizer> its on default
[06:28] <Ari-Yang> eh? change it to OpenGL or XVideo
[06:29] <energizer> ok
[06:30] <energizer> opengl makes it jerky and xvideo is just black
[06:30] <Ari-Yang> energizer, what about X11?
[06:31] <energizer> perfect
[06:31] <energizer> thanks Ari-Yang
[06:31] <Ari-Yang> energizer, you're welcome...
[06:32] <energizer> can i ask, there's so many settings-- how did you know which one
[06:33] <geri> test
[06:33] <Ari-Yang> energizer, well, I just had a hunch that it might be a video output problem, and the common outputs to use would be OpenGL, XV, and X11 :]
[06:33] <Ari-Yang> geri, type in terminal apt-cache search linux-headers-3.8.0-19
[06:33] <geri> Ari-Yang: http://openpaste.org/3E3E99FF
[06:34] <Ari-Yang> geri, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.8.0-19
[06:34] <wilee-nilee> energizer, Generally vlc has plenty oh codecs, but have you installed the restricted-extras in ubuntu?
[06:34] <energizer> Ari-Yang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5899556/
[06:34] <Ari-Yang> tbh, energizer I recommend you switch over from VLC to one of the mplayer families
[06:35] <Ari-Yang> energizer, that command was directed to geri lol xD
[06:35] <energizer> lol Ari-Yang
[06:36] <Ari-Yang> energizer, a simple way to install mplayer2 and the front-end GUI SMplayer2, you can go here for installation instructions, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-mplayer2-and-smplayer2-in.html though mplayer2 might be out of date (but probably will run fine..)
[06:37] <geri_> Ari-Yang: http://openpaste.org/2644Cc6E
[06:37] <wilee-nilee> smplayer wont play anything vlc wont
[06:38] <Ari-Yang> geri_, run sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.8.0-19-generic (but that should be installed too)
[06:38] <Ari-Yang> wilee-nilee, but I think some codecs and what not will be installed from that ppa *shrugs*
[06:38] <geri_> Ari-Yang: i did?
[06:39] <Ari-Yang> geri_, I asked you to install linux-headers-3.8.0-19 not linux-headers-3.8.0-19-generic
[06:39] <geri_> already newest version
[06:39] <geri_> oh
[06:39] <geri_> Ari-Yang: i got the same output for linux-headers-3.8.0-19
[06:40] <wilee-nilee> you just like smplayer there are no extra codecs in that ppa and the drama is well special.
[06:40] <Ari-Yang> geri_, okay so it's installed, tbh I don't know what the problem is then....
[06:41] <Ari-Yang> wilee-nilee, I don't like smplayer at all, I don't use it. I suggested it because it's /easier/ to install than the player I'd recommend, mpv.
[06:41] <geri_> thats strange
[06:41] <Ari-Yang> energizer, the reason why xv and opengl don't work is because something might not be installed, like codecs... if X11 works just fine for you, you can stick with that, or find out what stuff is missing so you can use better VOs like opengl or xv
[06:43] <penos> hi
[06:43] <cfhowlett> energizer, someone asked and I didn't see your response; have you intalled ubuntu-restricted-extras to get all those sweet codecs??
[06:44] <AnThRaX-SOI> ubuntu newbie looking for help with installing ubuntu along side windows on my SSD and using a different drive for installation and whatever of apps for ubuntu.
[06:45] <energizer>  cfhowlett apparently i hadnt
[06:45] <cfhowlett> energizer, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:45] <energizer> ya its doin it
[06:46] <energizer> cfhowlett: Ari-Yang so in general i want to have opengl or xv as opposed to x11
[06:46] <energizer> as my video output type
[06:46] <energizer> ?
[06:46] <aeon-ltd> AnThRaX-SOI: so one ssd one hdd, win on ssd ubuntu on hdd?
[06:46] <cfhowlett> energizer, I can't answer as my default setup "just works"
[06:47] <energizer> so i got ubunturestrictedextras
[06:48] <geri_> Ari-Yang: hmm?
[06:48] <energizer> and opengl xcb doesnt work
[06:48] <energizer> and im not sure which one is xv
[06:48] <penos> hi
[06:48] <AnThRaX-SOI> No, one SSD 120GB, i only use it for windows and install everything else on a 500GB HDD, I want to install ubuntu on the SSD with windows and use the 500gb for installation of all of the ubuntu apps and such, like i do for windows
[06:49] <aeon-ltd> AnThRaX-SOI: i don't think separating /usr is a option on the standard install disk
[06:50] <AnThRaX-SOI> do i have any options to do this? i want ubuntu to be as fast as possible like windows is on the SSD but use and store files on the 500GB HDD
[06:50] <geri_> Ari-Yang: can i tell module-assistant which kernel header to use?
[06:50] <wilee-nilee> AnThRaX-SOI, What release of windows?
[06:50] <AnThRaX-SOI> 7 Pro
[06:51] <AnThRaX-SOI> x64
[06:51] <aeon-ltd> AnThRaX-SOI: you can separate /usr to have the binaries on the hdd, but i don't know how hard it is. separating /home is very common though which can be on the hdd then have the rest of / on the ssd
[06:51] <energizer> Ari-Yang: ehh i found xv and gl, but neither seem to be doin the trick after installing u-r-e
[06:52] <wilee-nilee> AnThRaX-SOI, Yeah just make a space for it, use the windows disk manager to shrink it if needed, and reboot for the auto chkdsk and install ubuntu in the unallocated
[06:52] <AnThRaX-SOI> re-size my SSD?
[06:52] <AnThRaX-SOI> and the HDD?
[06:52] <AnThRaX-SOI> the hdd is obviously ntfs
[06:52] <wilee-nilee> AnThRaX-SOI, I assume you have the ssd full of partitions am I correct?
[06:53] <AnThRaX-SOI> I have the default 100MB partition win7 makes and then the rest is windows itself
[06:53] <farbod> some one help me
[06:53] <AnThRaX-SOI> how big of a partition should I make for ubuntu?
[06:53] <farbod> please
[06:54] <aeon-ltd> farbod: help you with what?
[06:54] <wilee-nilee> AnThRaX-SOI, Then you need a unallocated space for ubuntu's ext4 partition and a swap maybe, aeon-ltd suggests a splitting of home and root.
[06:54] <cfhowlett> !details|farbod,
[06:54] <AnThRaX-SOI> i've no clue how to do that.
[06:54] <farbod> i want a proxy
[06:54] <cfhowlett> AnThRaX-SOI, depends.  stock ubuntu partition without data runs about 8 gigs max ...
[06:54] <aeon-ltd> farbod: that isn't a lot of info
[06:55] <cfhowlett> farbod, I want a lamborghini ... see?  useless.  Details matter.
[06:55] <wilee-nilee> AnThRaX-SOI, Not difficult, however you should have the windows backed up no matter what or the ability to reinstall without losing anything.
[06:55] <farbod> i want a proxy to open some webs
[06:55] <AnThRaX-SOI> any free options to do that? windows backup doesn't work worth a shit
[06:55] <farbod> like tor or freegaite
[06:56] <guzzlefry> potentially dumb question, how do I reboot from GUI? :P
[06:56] <cfhowlett> !tor|farbod,
[06:56] <farbod> ok
[06:56] <farbod> i now
[06:56] <wilee-nilee> AnThRaX-SOI, Personally I use the windows imager on windows but clonezilla on linux, but there are handfuls of free imagers.
[06:56] <farbod> i want somethings to open some webs
[06:56] <aeon-ltd> farbod: webs?
[06:57] <farbod> some sites
[06:57] <farbod> can you help?
[06:57] <aeon-ltd> farbod: and the reason you can't use an existing proxy is?
[06:57] <farbod> what?
[06:58] <guzzlefry> As a matter of fact, how do I even run installed programs? 0.o
[06:58] <farbod> ?
[06:59] <rannonga> guzzle, I am very confused
[06:59] <aeon-ltd> guzzlefry: if this is stock ubuntu there is a dock and a search
[06:59] <guzzlefry> ah no
[06:59] <imahz> hello everyone
[07:00] <imahz> quick question about the forum breach
[07:00] <guzzlefry> aeon-ltd: This is Ubuntu Server 12.04 where I installed ubuntu-desktop with the --no-install-recommend option.
[07:00] <imahz> I use my launchpad/openid to log in to the forums
[07:00] <aeon-ltd> if ubuntu-desktop is unity then you've pretty much got stock ubuntu minus a lot of applications
[07:00] <guzzlefry> okay
[07:00] <wilee-nilee> imahz, Nothing here not on its splash page, go to #ubuntuforums
[07:01] <guzzlefry> I still don't see a dock or search. :/
[07:01] <aeon-ltd> guzzlefry: what do you see?
[07:01] <rannonga> do you see anything?
[07:01] <imahz> have those details been leaked?
[07:02] <imahz> wilee-nilee: thanks!
[07:02] <guzzlefry> oh derp
[07:02] <wilee-nilee> imahz, The passwords have been randomized and you will need a new one when it is back on.
[07:02] <guzzlefry> aeon-ltd: Is the dock the part with the Dash Home, System Settings, etc?
[07:02] <rannonga> yeah
[07:03] <guzzlefry> okay
[07:03] <guzzlefry> Threw me off, I don't see a search.
[07:03] <imahz> wilee-nilee: best to just change everything, I guess
[07:04] <aeon-ltd> heh i can't do thiis from memory, if anyone is one unity guzzlefry needs some guidance
[07:04] <aeon-ltd> *on not one
[07:04] <wilee-nilee> imahz, If you used the same password anywhere I would.
[07:04] <imahz> can't actually remember :)
[07:05] <imahz> ah well
[07:05] <guzzlefry> aeon-ltd: Are there other desktops available? Unity makes me feel like I"m using OS X. :/
[07:05] <wilee-nilee> imahz, I change passwords on occasion, I have no duplicates and they are long and complex.
[07:05] <rannonga> there's kubuntu, gnome
[07:06] <histo> !notunity | guzzlefry
[07:06] <guzzlefry> ah, thanks
[07:07] <histo> guzzlefry: there is also xfce lxde etc... there are plenty of Desktop environments to choose from.
[07:07] <guzzlefry> ah, xfce it is. :P
[07:07] <wilee-nilee> guzzlefry, One thing you want to be aware of is that desktops are meta packages so if you install another and want to remove one there is a website that has the package list to do this safely.
[07:07] <clynamen> hello. Can you import setuptools in python2? (quantal)
[07:08] <histo> guzzlefry: xubunt-desktop meta package may be of interest to you if you want a polished looking xfce experience.
[07:08] <xmetal> i like xfce
[07:08] <guzzlefry> histo: Is that going to pull in lots of extra software? Trying to avoid that since I just use this for development.
[07:09] <histo> guzzlefry: yes the xubuntu-desktop meta package will pull in a bunch of extras. You can go more minimal by just pulling the xfce or xfce4 package I believe it is.
[07:09] <guzzlefry> The blog post I read for installing a desktop environment on the server version had me pass --no-recommend-install to avoid that with Unity. Would it work for xubuntu-desktop?
[07:10] <histo> guzzlefry: eap xfce4
[07:10] <guzzlefry> eap?
[07:10] <histo> guzzlefry: I would just install xfce4 if you want a lighter setup.
[07:10] <xmetal> i am in mint now as opposed to ubuntu though thats what i did
[07:10] <xmetal> just get the "xfce" packages alone
[07:10] <histo> !info xfce4 | guzzlefry
[07:10] <guzzlefry> ok, thanks
[07:10] <rannonga> !info vlc
[07:17] <noersetiawan> Umm.. Hello
[07:17] <penos> hi
[07:18] <penos> hi
[07:23] <pranav1> about the recent command search when we press ctrl+r in terminal. if i press "-r". is there a way to get all 3 recent command i typed that had -r and not just 1. (ps. i know history | grep '-r')
[07:27] <wilee-nilee> pranav1, You can search in ,bash_history
[07:27] <Actionparsnip> Pranav1: history | grep search
[07:28] <pranav1> its ok guys..
[07:28] <pranav1> thanks :)
[07:28] <Actionparsnip>  Pranav1: eg: history | grep sudo
[07:29] <Margor> hello
[07:29] <pranav1> Actionparsnip: I knew that one. But is it that the history also differs for different tabs of terminal ?
[07:29] <Margor> need help please
[07:30] <wilee-nilee> Margor, Tell the channel your problems child. ;)
[07:30] <Margor> ;)
[07:30] <Actionparsnip> Pranav1 : yes. The file is updated when the tab closes if memory serves. It is the same shell so the same file is used
[07:30] <marandi> hi guys , i want to capture screenshot from specific Workspace even when im in another workspace with command line , how can i do that ?
[07:31] <Margor> ubuntu stuck on logo after reboot, if i turn it down it log in
[07:31] <Margor> have to turn off pc every reboot
[07:31] <histo> pranav1: you can also press ctrl+r again after you get one result to get the previous one
[07:32] <histo> !nomodeset | Margor
[07:32] <histo> Margor: scrot
[07:32] <pranav1> hm.. histo thanks.. that was what i was searching for exactly :)
[07:32] <Margor> histo, not black screen
[07:32] <histo> pranav1: grep '-r' .bash_history
[07:33] <wilee-nilee> histo, I saved this while the UF is down. http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-do-i-set-nomodeset-after-ive-already-installed-ubuntu
[07:33] <ashfallen0> o/ what's going on with the forums?
[07:33] <histo> pranav1: grep '-r' .bash_history | tail -n 3
[07:33] <Margor> histo, ubuntu logo seems like booting, but it can take a hour and nothing
[07:33] <Actionparsnip> Marandi: seems like shutter does it according to their website
[07:34] <pranav1> histo: ok, is there a way to come back to recent one. i tried ctrl+shift+r. didn't worked.
[07:34] <marandi> Actionparsnip: i found , u r right i guess , let me check it
[07:35] <Actionparsnip> Marandi : I just searched the web .....
[07:35] <marandi> Actionparsnip: me too , i searched and i got it same time u respond
[07:39] <Actionparsnip> Marandi : then why ask here before you have searched?
[07:39] <histo> pranav1: man history may be of use to you.
[07:39] <randomaussie> yay i think i finally figured out my problem.... swap partition cant be first can it?
[07:40] <pranav1> histo: okey..
[07:40] <histo> randomaussie: can't be first in what?
[07:40] <randomaussie> cant be the forst partition on my harddrive
[07:40] <pranav1> i thought the ctrl+r searching was not part of history command
[07:40] <randomaussie> first*
[07:40] <histo> randomaussie: sure it can
[07:41] <randomaussie> hmm ok something else must of fixed my problem them.. doesnt matter i've gotten past it :)
[07:41] <Actionparsnip> Randomaussie: if you mean the order of partitions on the drive then it doesn't make a difference.  Nor does having it as an extended partition
[07:41] <histo> pranav1: it's not but there are things you can do with the history command that you may apply to whatever it is you are trying to do. Like !?string?
[07:41] <Actionparsnip>  Randomaussie : sorry, logical partition
[07:41] <pranav1> sure..
[07:42] <randomaussie> actionparsnip: no problem i'm just glad i fixed my gtp problem :)
[07:42] <Actionparsnip> Randomaussie : sweet :-)
[07:43] <histo> randomaussie: you mean gpt?
[07:43] <randomaussie> histo: guid partition table
[07:44] <histo> pranav1: what exactly are you trying to do? Like what is the end goal here?
[07:44] <jacta> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5899703/ - can anyone help me with this one? :S
[07:45] <randomaussie> histo: sorry i'm very dyslexic :) makes things difficult some times
[07:46] <histo> jacta: remove the two packages from /var/cache/apt/archives/... that it is complaining about and redownload them.
[07:47] <Actionparsnip> Jackta: are the files from PPAs?
[07:47] <jacta> I really don't know, actually, can I see that somehow?
[07:47] <Actionparsnip> Jackta : some files seem to overlap and dpkg doesn't like it
[07:48] <sontek_> Any of you guys know a good upstart event to catch *after* network mounted file systems would be available?
[07:48] <Actionparsnip> Jackta : apt-cache policy fonts-unfonts-core
[07:49] <jacta> Actionparsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5899718/
[07:49] <guzzlefry> No Oracle JRE in the package manager I take it?
[07:50] <Actionparsnip> Jackta : you can force install the debs and the overlap will be ignored but the package needs sorting out and you should report a bug
[07:50] <jacta> Actionparsnip: I'm just a newbie to all  this, I'm not sure what I should do :S
[07:50] <Electric_Charge> Hey, did you guys hear about what happened with the Ubuntu forums>
[07:50] <Electric_Charge> ?*
[07:51] <Actionparsnip>  Guzzlefry: no but webupd8 has a ppa for Oracle Java you can use
[07:52] <Actionparsnip>  Electric_charge: this is support. Chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:52] <Electric_Charge> Sorry, I'm gonna head over there. Thanks.
[07:52] <Electric_Charge> :)
[07:52] <Actionparsnip>  Jacta: run: ubuntu-buf fonts-unfonts-core
[07:53] <Actionparsnip> Jackta : you get the idea: ubuntu-bug packagename
[07:54] <Actionparsnip> Jackta : also try: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get clean;  sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:55] <Actionparsnip>  Jackta : fresh download of the package
[07:56] <jacta> Actionparsnip: after the three: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5899733/
[07:57] <Actionparsnip> Jackta : what is the output of : cat /etc/issue
[07:58] <jacta> Actionparsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5899734/
[07:59] <konadr> Is there some strange issue with www.ubuntuforums.org and debian.org I can't resolve their DNS?
[07:59] <Actionparsnip> Jacta: run: ubuntu-bug fonts-horai-umefont
[07:59] <Actionparsnip> Jacta : the packages are not right
[07:59] <ikonia> konadr: no problem at all
[08:02] <jacta> Actionparsnip: can we see what installed it, so I can remove it? :S
[08:02] <Actionparsnip> Konadrr: tried a different DNS?
[08:02] <Actionparsnip> Konadr: dig a debian.org @8.8.8.8
[08:02] <jacta> brb
[08:03] <Celroc> konadr: I think the forums are currently down.  There's been some kind of security breach
[08:03] <Actionparsnip> Konadr: does that give an answer?
[08:04] <konadr> I think so, I also think my DNS server was on it's way out at the same time, thanks folks :)
[08:04] <Actionparsnip> Konadr : change server for DNS. There are loads online
[08:05] <mregg> Hi, with the integrate gpu HD3000 (i5-2500) on precise, is it recommended to install xorg-edgers?
[08:05] <mregg> *integrated*
[08:06] <konadr> It's just our internal one Actionparsnip, we set it up last week so it's resolving everything apart from debian.org and the forums :) weird
[08:06] <Actionparsnip> You can even use namebench to see which is fastest for your location
[08:07] <Actionparsnip>  Mregg: xorg edgers is notoriously unstable and experimental.  I don't suggest it to production systems
[08:07] <Actionparsnip>  Konadr: check your DNS forward or add a zone
[08:08] <konadr> I think it was the forward Actionparsnip, someone had been tinkering with it!
[08:08] <mregg> Actionparsnip: Thanks. Prior to 12.04, I was on 10.10, and there I *had* to use xorg-edgers as Sandy Bridge wasn't recognized by maverick, hence my question.
[08:08] <syn-ack> Good evening
[08:09] <kingbeast> syn-ack, evening to you
[08:09] <Actionparsnip> Mregg: did you clean install or did you upgrade all the way from Maverick to Precise stopping at each consecutive release?
[08:09] <mregg> Actionparsnip: clean install
[08:09] <syn-ack> if he did, I pitty him
[08:09] <syn-ack> mregg, Good boy. heh
[08:10] <kingbeast> if he didn't catch the blank screen on boot he should be fine
[08:10] <Actionparsnip> Mregg: you could try it.  You can use ppa-purge to roll back
[08:10] <mregg> syn-ack: Although on my laptop I did 10.04 - 12.04 - 12.10 - 13.04, and all that went surprisingly smooth!
[08:11] <syn-ack> Scary.
[08:11] <syn-ack> Anyway, as we digress
[08:11] <kingbeast> very, tis the reason I use LTS only, I plan builds according
[08:12] <mregg> syn-ack: yeah well with a good dd of your sda1...
[08:12] <syn-ack> heh
[08:12] <syn-ack> images for the win
[08:12] <Jubei> hello. My box refuses to resolve things. I wanted to manage networking manually so i purged the network-manager
[08:12] <syn-ack> Seems like a slow night
[08:13] <Jubei> but now dns resolution just doesn't work (even though resolv.conf is populated)
[08:13] <auronandace> !resolvconf | Jubei
[08:14] <Jubei> auronandace, actually I've read both those pages
[08:14] <syn-ack> Jubei, yeah, can't really do things the old fashioned way easily in Ubuntu, imo
[08:14] <histo> Jubei: resolv.conf will get overwritten even when network-manager is removed due to the resolvconf package now.
[08:15] <syn-ack> yep
[08:15] <exen> как попасть на русский канал?
[08:15] <syn-ack> exen, Engrish only, pls
[08:15] <Jubei> histo, auronandace thanks I found the problem
[08:15] <Jubei> I had mistakenly added in /etc/network/interfaces dns-nameservers servera,serverb
[08:16] <Jubei> needs a space, not a comma
[08:16] <Jubei> fixed it and it works now thank you very much
[08:16] <ikonia> why are you using the interfaces file ?
[08:16] <histo> ikonia: he is manually configure his interface
[08:16] <syn-ack> He's doing it the very old fashioned Debian way, it appears
[08:16] <Jubei> ikonia, because I just want a static IP and I think that running that network-manager thingie is .. too much
[08:17] <ikonia> network manager should be used
[08:17] <ikonia> it's intergrated into the desktop....for a reason
[08:17] <randomaussie> i have a self hosting network printer that doesnt have its own specific drivers... it seems i might still be able to get it to work using jetdirect and i can find a guide to help me make sure i'm setting it up properly.. doesn any one know of a guide or has experiance in this?
[08:17] <Jubei> ikonia, I don't use the desktop. I want to be able to alter addresses etc from remotely
[08:17] <histo> ikonia: without network-manager that is the preferd way
[08:17] <kingbeast> it should be done how the user prefers
[08:17] <ikonia> Jubei: so you don't have the desktop installed/running
[08:17] <fishcooker> how to protect screen session with apassword
[08:17] <histo> randomaussie: what kind of printer do you have?
[08:17] <Celroc> exen: #ubuntu-ru
[08:17] <Jubei> ikonia, I don't have it running :)
[08:18] <histo> fishcooker: ctrl+a then x
[08:18] <ikonia> ok
[08:18] <fishcooker> cool
[08:18] <randomaussie> histo: fuji zeros docuprint cp205w
[08:18] <fishcooker> histo nice and quick resp
[08:18] <ikonia> histo: that's useful to know, didn't know you could password "screen"
[08:18] <fishcooker> thankyou
[08:18] <syn-ack> Jubei, what I tend to personally is use Static Leases, instead. I prefer to do everything in the router and within my AD Servers.
[08:18] <randomaussie> histo: i can find it on the network just not sure what i'm auposed to do wit the "connections" option
[08:18] <syn-ack> Makes the Network Management easier.
[08:19] <Jubei> syn-ack, fair enough.
[08:19] <syn-ack> But, to each their own
[08:20] <histo> fishcooker: you can also run screen with password options in your .screenrc or at cli so it will prompt for password upon connecting etc... info is the in man page for screen.
[08:24] <fishcooker> why always request a password "Screen used by root <root> on sentral."
[08:24] <fishcooker> histo:
[08:24] <ikonia> errr "root" screen....no no no no
[08:24] <ikonia> fishcooker: start it as an unprivileged user, then switch user in the screen
[08:24] <fishcooker> why
[08:25] <histo> fishcooker: to avoid your error
[08:27] <arun_> I have 2 audio output ports, one of them is not detected why?
[08:27] <histo> arun_: perhaps one is for mic one is for speakers
[08:28] <arun_> then i have 4
[08:28] <histo> arun_: if your ports are multiplying you really have issues
[08:29] <arun_> 2 in the front of my CPU
[08:29] <arun_> 2 in the back of CPU
[08:29] <histo> arun_: those are usually just front audio jacks for the same card
[08:30] <arun_> can u find out what is wrong with them?
[08:30] <arun_> back one is working fine
[08:31] <histo> arun_: maybe the wire is disconnected inside your computer or the headphone jack is muted in your sound settings
[08:31] <arun_> thanks
[08:32] <obroni> hi, ubuntuforum.com was hacked, right? does this also inclued launchpad and reated sites/forums?
[08:33] <ikonia> no
[08:33] <ikonia> just ubuntu forum
[08:33] <syn-ack> When was it hacked?
[08:33] <DJones> obroni: As per -ack> When was it hacked?
[08:33] <DJones> Grr
[08:33] <histo> syn-ack: Saturday I believe
[08:33] <ikonia> there is an announcment on the website
[08:34] <Jubei> thank god for google cache
[08:34] <obroni> ikonia: ok,since i have an account there (reported on or two bugs long time ago and never used it since) - i'd have to find out what password I used there and change the pw, in case i use it somewhere else?
[08:34] <obroni> anything else to do or think of?
[08:34] <DJones> As per www.ubuntuforums.org/announce.html, it was hacked late on the 20th July, Ubuntu One, Launchpad and other Ubuntu/Canonical services are NOT affected by the breach
[08:35] <ikonia> obroni: that's up to you, the password database is encypted, so that's up to you
[08:35] <DJones> obroni: You can't do anything yet anyway, everybody has to wait until the forums are back up and running before you can change your password
[08:36] <obroni> DJones: i mean changing the password on other services in case i sue them same paw
[08:36] <obroni> *paw-> password
[08:36] <ikonia> up to you
[08:36] <obroni> DJones: since i created the account long ago i don't think i use the pw anywhere else - but i'd like to make sure
[08:37] <syn-ack> as was mentioned. The PW DB is encrypted and hopefully salted so it shouldn't bee too much of an issue
[08:37] <obroni> ok
[08:37] <syn-ack> bee? gah
[08:37] <obroni> *hopefully salted*?
[08:37] <gordonjcp> obroni: even unsalted md5 is a pig to crack
[08:37] <syn-ack> as in, I don't know if they salted it, but it more than likely is
[08:38] <gordonjcp> syn-ack: by default it would be salted; making it unsalted would have required additional effort
[08:38] <histo> syn-ack: it was salted
[08:38] <syn-ack> gordonjcp, Ah well, I'm not up as to how the backend is set up and all that...
[08:38] <syn-ack> Yeah, then I wouldn't worry about it.
[08:39] <gordonjcp> syn-ack: I use the same "insecure" password for a bunch of stuff, and a more secure one for things I care about, and a more secure one still for my personal machines and online banking ;-)
[08:39] <obroni> so currently i can not log on to ubuntuformus?
[08:39] <arun_> how to search files?
[08:40] <ikonia> obroni: visit the front page
[08:40] <obroni> arun_: do you want to search by name?
[08:40] <syn-ack> obroni, Thtat would be a negative
[08:40] <arun_> yes
[08:40] <ikonia> arun_: the search box in the file manager
[08:40] <fishcooker> how to remove the history log .. i want to remove some line but it always come back
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> arun_: if you run:  sudo updatedb   you can then use the 'locate' command
[08:40] <ikonia> locate is not a "search"
[08:40] <ikonia> it only searched set paths
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: sure it is, it searches the database of file names created by updatedb
[08:41] <syn-ack> gordonjcp, For everything local, I use a randomly generated password plus biometrics
[08:41] <sontek_> Whats the latest upstart event emitted that can be caught?
[08:41] <gordonjcp> syn-ack: apg for the win
[08:41] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: that's not a search - that's basically a quick find for certain paths, mostly the common binary paths, it' not really more than "which"
[08:41] <mathfreak> obroni: Passwords are apparently salted as md5(md5(pass).$salt)
[08:41] <obroni> ikonia: syn-ack ok, thank you
[08:41] <obroni> mathfreak: OK
[08:42] <syn-ack> Yeah, I love my fingerprint scanners.
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: it is still a search, it also adds in $HOME which 'which' doesnt appreciate
[08:42] <ikonia> I just don't understand why you'd suggest "locate" when there is a proper definable search function in nautlius
[08:42] <syn-ack> heh
[08:42] <randomaussie> i've forgotten how to change my ubuntu to use the main servers instad of hte australian mirrors
[08:43] <syn-ack> I personally use "which" and "locate" more than the gui things
[08:43] <syn-ack> just a creature of habit, I suppose
[08:43] <obroni> what about find?
[08:43] <ikonia> again, why suggest such things, when there is a proper search function in nautilus.
[08:44] <randomaussie> nevermind i've finally found it
[08:44] <R0SSI> Is there any app is in YUMI for linux? I want to creat a Multiboot USB. (http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/)
[08:44] <syn-ack> ikonia, I fail to see how one is less proper than the other. It all gets the job done, no?
[08:44] <obroni> oh: i was merey asking syn-ack why he preferes which and locate. but i see your point, ikonia
[08:45] <R0SSI> *as in YUMI
[08:45] <syn-ack> obroni, that's just the way I've done it since I started using linux in 1998
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: i like cli, depends on the needs really, the user may be on a server install so nautilus will no be installed. 'locate' covers both desktop and server
[08:45] <obroni> ah ok
[08:45] <fishcooker> is it possible to remove some line history line .. so it wont come back again
[08:45] <ikonia> syn-ack: your on a desktop, designed for ease of use, a guy ask "how to find files" suggesting he really has no idea, and you are suggesting a.) terminal commands b.) hardcoded path searches, when there is an easy to use gui tool built into the desktop
[08:45] <syn-ack> ikonia, fair enough
[08:46] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: I do'nt disagree with what "you" use, but see comment to syn-ack
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> fishcooker: you can grep -v the bash history file and output to another file as a user with sudo access. You can then copy the new file over
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: gotch
[08:47] <syn-ack> ikonia, Like I said, personally, I'm just a creature of habit. I tend to go where I "know"
[08:47] <syn-ack> I know CLI. :/
[08:47] <mathfreak> fishcooker: Use your text editor on ~/.bash_history. Remove the line you don't want. Save and quit.
[08:47] <ikonia> syn-ack: yes, but think about who you're helping when they ask
[08:47] <ceil> "The Ubuntu forums software was compromised by an external attacker. As a result, the attacker has gained access to read your username, email address and an encrypted copy of your password from the forum database."
[08:47] <ceil> thanks a lot, Ubuntu :(
[08:47] <ikonia> ceil: not here to rant
[08:48] <ikonia> ceil: you've got the announcment information, - that's as much as can be informed
[08:48] <ceil> ikonia: that was my rant :)
[08:48] <syn-ack> ceil, simply put; things like this happen. Deal.
[08:48] <mathfreak> ceil: Not technically Ubuntu's fault. Besides, you should never place too much trust in any one entity.
[08:48] <ceil> syn-ack: tbh, i don't even remember my ubuntu login info heh. i'm sure it's an old password that's long since fallen to disuse
[08:48] <arc__> hi guys how do i reinstall grub
[08:48] <syn-ack> It'll be fixed and we'll all be happy little users again here in the near future.
[08:48] <ceil> also, i'm glad they store passwords encrypted :)
[08:49] <ceil> (back to your regularly scheduled help chat)
[08:49] <mathfreak> arc__: sudo grub-install <device file for your hard drive>
[08:49] <mathfreak> arc__: What do you need to re-install grub for? What happened?
[08:49] <arc__> ok
[08:49] <syn-ack> mathfreak beat me to it
[08:49] <arc__> i had gurb rescue
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> arc__: you can do it in a chroot from livecd if needed
[08:50] <arc__> no i random
[08:50] <syn-ack> come again
[08:50] <arc__> no i randomly installed it again to fix it
[08:51] <syn-ack> smh
[08:51] <arc__> sorry bad fast typer
[08:51] <arc__> linux@101
[08:52] <syn-ack> I think I see what you're getting at, but wow
[08:53] <stumpfist> #wc
[08:53] <syn-ack> arc__, It sounds like you're trying to learn how the internals of linux. I commend you on that. Might I recommend something to you though? Install Vbox or VMware or something and get something like LFS, Gentoo, Slackware or the like and do it that way
[08:53] <syn-ack> don't waste a perfectly good system
[08:54] <histo> !grub | arc__
[08:54] <syn-ack> histo, to me, it sounds like he did just to see how to do it.
[08:54] <syn-ack> did it, that is
[08:57] <Kingsy> is it true that the ubuntu forums were breached and passwords where lost?
[08:58] <ikonia> Kingsy: please read the front page of rht eforum
[08:59] <Kingsy> ikonia: what if you cant remember which password you used? and therefore are not sure which accounts need to be changed?
[08:59] <k1l> Kingsy: #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntuforums are the channels to discuss that topic
[08:59] <Kingsy> sorry
[09:05] <DragonDon> Greetings all....well, looks like I'm back to Ubuntu after being away for a few years :)
[09:06] <vlad76> DragonDon: hey, welcome back. Why did you drop ubuntu? :)
[09:06] <_nebula> Somebody help!
[09:07] <mathfreak> _nebula: What's up?
[09:07] <_nebula> I recently installed gnome desktop on raring ringtail
[09:07] <DragonDon> sold my system, had a little netbook (Win7 Starter) for about a year, didn't want to change it till I could backup/restore to factory shoudl something go wrong....(cont)
[09:07] <resting> help in installing php 5.3.10 in ubuntu 10.04? http://askubuntu.com/questions/102117/how-to-update-to-php-5-3-10-in-10-04 doesn't work anymore. ppa seems to have been taken down
[09:07] <_nebula> since then I have lost the wifi option in network applet
[09:07] <DragonDon> then built a new system, tried Ubuntu....it wouldn't install properly, so installed Debian....(cont)
[09:07] <k1l> _nebula: which gnome desktop?
[09:07] <DJones> resting: Server or Desktop?
[09:07] <_nebula> Desktop
[09:08] <DragonDon> Debian broke recently for me....and I want to try out Steam....so back I came :)
[09:08] <resting> DJones: server
[09:08] <mathfreak> DragonDon: I can attest that Steam on Ubuntu is pretty awesome.
[09:08] <DragonDon> installing now mathfreak
[09:08] <DragonDon> :)
[09:08] <k1l> _nebula: more precise please. the gnome-shell (aka gnome3)?
[09:09] <_nebula> gnome 3
[09:09] <_nebula> I have now gnome3 and unity both installed
[09:10] <DragonDon> although, Steam has some sort of issue with my first purchase....go figure...waiting for them to respond.
[09:10] <_nebula> my network card is
[09:10] <_nebula>  Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5906M Fast Ethernet PCI Express
[09:10] <sandeepr_ltp> hi, i'm using preseed file to install 12.04 x64 server. i want to install ubuntu desktop as --no-install-recommends ubuntu-desktop
[09:11] <_nebula> and it works fine in windows
[09:11] <sandeepr_ltp> anyone know how i can specify it in the preseed file in d-i pkgsel/include string
[09:12] <_nebula> It worked earlier so I suppose it is not a driver issue!
[09:12] <syn-ack> That's kind of out of the scope of this channel, sandeepr_ltp... I would imagine, at least.
[09:12] <Ignatius> nickname Gnagna
[09:13] <sandeepr_ltp> syn-ack, is there another channel i should ask this?
[09:13] <mathfreak> _nebula: I've always had trouble with Broadcom cards on Linux.
[09:13] <DJones> resting: As far as I can see, that ppa no longer exists, you may need to look for another ppa but bear in mind that ppa's aren't officially supported
[09:13] <syn-ack> sandeepr_ltp, to be honest, I'm not sure...
[09:14] <_nebula> mathfreak: I am facing this problem first time
[09:14] <guzzlefry> hm
[09:14] <guzzlefry> I'm trying to install make, it appears to have frozen.
[09:14] <_nebula> looks like I will have to reinstall everything
[09:14] <mathfreak> _nebula: Is this the first time you've installed Linux on that system?
[09:15] <_nebula> No
[09:15] <_nebula> I have used almost all versions of ubuntu from 10.04
[09:15] <_nebula> worked with all previous releases
[09:15] <DragonDon> anyone know why my downloads are soo slow?  I mean, they are peaking at a whopping 21kB/s!!  Geeze!  I know I can get multi-MB/s...
[09:15] <resting> DJones: yea, i'm aware ppa has risks…but where does one usually find ppas? not really a linux guy
[09:16] <_nebula> It was working with raring ringtail too
[09:16] <DragonDon> to clarify, these are update downloads....
[09:16] <mathfreak> Hmm... Out of my scope then. You might want to take a look at wicd over NetworkManager sometime, though.
[09:16] <DJones> resting: I'd give https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas a search
[09:17] <_nebula> but something happened after gnome install
[09:17] <joshu_> hi is there anything I need to consider when installing ubuntu 13.04 on an SSD?
[09:17] <_nebula> ok mathfreak, thanks
[09:18] <guzzlefry> So, package installation kind of freezes on "applying changes" in the GUI app, how do I fix this?
[09:18] <syn-ack> joshu_, your mount flags.
[09:19] <resting> DJones: awesome! thanks..think i found what i need..
[09:19] <syn-ack> joshu_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/19376/installing-ubuntu-on-a-ssd
[09:19] <joshu_> syn-ack hi so after I install ubuntu I make the changes? are the changes dependent on the type of sad?
[09:19] <joshu_> *ssd
[09:19] <syn-ack> refer to my last
[09:21] <joshu_> ok thanks syn-ack ;)
[09:25] <joshu_> syn-ack I read through your link and in the answers no one mentions mount flags. Just the type of filesystem and some other basic things.
[09:28] <syn-ack> joshu_, did you look at the first reference link in the article?
[09:28] <syn-ack> joshu_, http://opentechnow.blogspot.com/2010/02/linux-ssd-optimization-guide.html
[09:29] <joshu_> ok I went for the answers as I thought that would provided solid info from experienced users. I'll have a look at all the links now.
[09:30] <jacta> ActionParsnip: are you still here?
[09:30] <syn-ack> joshu_, yeah... it's actually a very well written article with other options. I wish I could personally could give you more definite advice, but I run platters.
[09:31] <joshu_> syn-ack no worries I appreciate the help you've given!
[09:32] <syn-ack> I know the big one is that you move /tmp into RAM and something about TRIM and etc, but yeah...
[09:33] <syn-ack> I mean, if you have the RAM, you should move /tmp into RAM and have it noexec anyway, for security purposes.
[09:33] <syn-ack> Thats one of the first things I do on my servers. My workstations.... not so much
[09:34] <syn-ack> And since Linux 2.6, I have followed the rule of thumb with regards to swap, anyway since its memory management is far better than that of 2.4 was.
[09:35] <syn-ack> haven't, that is
[09:36] <chekuda> f
[09:36] <farbod> ?
[09:36] <chekuda> testing
[09:36] <farbod> :d
[09:37] <joshu_> interesting thanks syn-ack
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> jacta: a little
[09:38] <syn-ack> joshu_, for example, I have 4 gigs of RAM on this machine here, and I only have 500 megs of swap and even with that, I never touch it unless I'm running a VM or something
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> syn-ack: moving ~/.cache/google-chrome or whatever browser you use's cache to tempfs too :)
[09:39] <joshu_> syn-ack and the machine you mention is running ubuntu desktop?
[09:40] <syn-ack> joshu_, Xubuntu, but I would set up Ubuntu the same way
[09:41] <syn-ack> joshu_, it's not like I do anything really intensive all the time, like Database serving or the like, so there's no real point in a heavy swap, here.
[09:41] <joshu_> ok syn-ack seems to be a lot of different opinions on how to configure ubuntu when using an SSD and also some bug related to lightdm. Starting to think that maybe it is not worth it to get an SSD to replace a platter
[09:41] <syn-ack> I mean, I cant hibernate, but boo hoo, I hate that feature anyway
[09:41] <syn-ack> joshu_, what bug is this?
[09:42] <joshu_> syn-ack http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/ubuntu-lightdm-black-screen-when-using.html
[09:43] <syn-ack> Hell, if that's all the bug is... oh well, just go in there and fix... besides, it's probably fixed already anyway. Don't let that sway you from getting an SSD
[09:43] <joshu_> i'm creating this system for multiple users and buying new laptops, so I was considering SSDs as they don't spin and less risk of damage if the users are rough with the laptops. But I don't know now...
[09:43] <gordonjcp> joshu_: you don't know why?
[09:44] <syn-ack> I wouldn't go as far as installing GDM... esp since LightDM is better.
[09:44] <syn-ack> joshu_, you'll be fine.
[09:45] <syn-ack> joshu_, Just deploy one, for you run it as your primary system for a while, tweak it and then deploy on a wide scale. No biggie, really.
[09:45] <joshu_> syn-ack yeah I have a system I'm still working on building that just uses ubuntu mini 13.04 and xserver-xorg lightdm…I'm essentially building a thin client laptop
[09:45] <ajay_> hi ajay
[09:45] <ajay_> this is sandesh
[09:45] <syn-ack> Then just go buy a bunch of ChromeBooks.
[09:45] <syn-ack> heh
[09:45] <joshu_> gordonjcp sorry what I mean is don't know if the SSD is worth it that's what I was trying to say...
[09:45] <joyson> hi m ajayn :P
[09:46] <joshu_> syn-ack hehe no Google thanks ;)
[09:46] <syn-ack> I was being sarcastic, anyway
[09:46] <joshu_> syn-ack I know :D
[09:46] <syn-ack> Seriously, I think you'll be fine
[09:47] <gordonjcp> joshu_: get a couple and try it
[09:47] <Hexagonite> Why won't dd stop copying when it already said '2537521152 bytes (2.5 GB) copied, 607.722 s, 4.2 MB/s'
[09:47] <syn-ack> as far as preseeding goes... I haven't done a preseed and deselect install in many, MANY moons and I've never done it on Ubuntu, so I seriously wouldn't advise it.
[09:48] <Hexagonite> the USB still blinks and closing the terminal says there's an ongoing command
[09:48] <gordonjcp> joshu_: kickstart and PXE are your friends, for bulk installs
[09:50] <Hexagonite> the USB stopped blinking; anyone?
[09:51] <joshu_> syn-ack gordonjcp this link I just found seems pretty straightforward https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[09:51] <Jessica1988> I scanned paper from book, now i want print it out in bigger scale. How todo that ?
[09:52] <Jessica1988> i was trying with gimp, but it dont change printing size :/
[09:53] <Hexagonite> nevermind, stopped copying
[09:56] <syn-ack> joshu_, I think that one's going in the ol bookmarks
[09:56] <joshu_> syn-ack ;) just need to check what's suitable ssd make and model. need something tiny
[09:57] <syn-ack> joshu_, Buddy of mine says the WD units are actually really good. The one constant I hear is to NOT get one of those hybrid drives.
[09:58] <joshu_> syn-ack thanks for the tip!
[10:00] <syn-ack> Hrm
[10:00] <syn-ack> One thing I don't agree with in this is that it says not having a separate /home part isnt useful.
[10:00] <syn-ack> imo, it most certainly is
[10:01] <joshu_> syn-ack so you wouldn't do a guided partitioning?
[10:02] <syn-ack> joshu_, I never have.
[10:02] <wy017> Hi all. I'm new to Ubuntu. Just installed the Ubuntu 13.04 on my Asus A46CM, and I'm happy with it however I encounter minor issue with my keyboard layout and my GPU. Anyone has solutions to this? Ta.
[10:02] <syn-ack> joshu_, on my workstations, I have / /home and swap
[10:02] <tvjunky> can somebody tell me how to read the ubuntu CVE tracker?
[10:02] <tvjunky> i.e. http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2012/CVE-2012-3411.html
[10:02] <tvjunky> does this mean there is no patch yet?
[10:02] <syn-ack> joshu_, on my servers, I tend to have about 6 or 7 different partitions.
[10:03] <tvjunky> i'm on 12.04 LTE
[10:03] <tvjunky> LTS
[10:03] <syn-ack> joshu_, before ext4, I ran XFS, and on that I had /boot, /, /home and swap
[10:04] <syn-ack> and I still have a seperate /boot on my servers, even with ext4, for added security.
[10:04] <joshu_> syn-ack ok I'll have to consider the partitioning some more
[10:05] <syn-ack> joshu_, yeah, a good partitioning plan is very important.
[10:06] <syn-ack> Though, I'm sure some in here would argue that some of what I do is no longer necessary and blah, blah, blah
[10:06] <joshu_> sure everyone has there own ways.
[10:07] <joshu_> syn-ack something I've been wondering is how I can update and make configuration changes to the OS when these laptops will be in remote locations and I'll only need direct physical access if there's something really wrong.
[10:08] <joshu_> syn-ack commercial thin clients such as those by HP or Wyse when you update the OS you basically update an image
[10:08] <syn-ack> joshu_, Landscape.
[10:08] <syn-ack> or clonezilla.
[10:08] <syn-ack> clonezilla can be set up as a PXE server.
[10:09] <syn-ack> If the OS is going to be local and Ubuntu, look into Landscape, if you're wanting to go with a PXE Boot type system, use something like Clonezilla
[10:10] <joshu_> syn-ack so as long as a laptop has an internet connection and can power on I would be able to remotely  update it…ok PXE boot might be a bad option for remote users not on the LAN right?
[10:10] <syn-ack> right
[10:10] <syn-ack> Stick to Landscape.
[10:11] <syn-ack> It is really, REALLY nice
[10:11] <joshu_> syn-ack not overkill for 5 users?
[10:11] <syn-ack> yes and no.
[10:12] <syn-ack> It certainly leaves room to scale it up, when the time comes
[10:12] <NK`> Hi
[10:12] <NK`> anyone know what is the environment variable "without NO_AT_BRIDGE" aim to ?
[10:12] <NK`> i meant "NO_AT_BRIDGE"
[10:13] <joshu_> syn-ack I was considering creating something on my own although what exactly I don't know..don't need anything super fancy or complex. Just need to be able to change a laptop's config say network settings, vpn settings and update the few things i've installed if needed
[10:13] <lperry65> I'm added myself to the www:data group which owns /var/www but i'm unable to change file permissions on a style sheet in a subdirectory of /var/www. i've checked and all directories in www are owned by www:data with g+w please help!
[10:14] <syn-ack> joshu_, I know there's some free solutions out there, but Landscape is nice because A) you dont have to deal with that part of the administration B) it integrates nicely
[10:14] <syn-ack> joshu_, I mean, really, when you think about it's a lot like LogMeIn
[10:15] <joshu_> can I shadow users to help them with landscape?
[10:15] <syn-ack> Not sure if they added that feature
[10:15] <syn-ack> joshu_, Hell, that really can be done via RDP or VNC, really.
[10:15] <joshu_> syn-ack that's another thing I'm investigating…I was thinking team viewer, but it doesn't work if the user hasn't logged in I believe. What I'd like is to connect to a laptop at the lightdm greeter so I can help the user from there
[10:17] <syn-ack> I haven't used it in a while, but I believe you can do that, with TeamViewer.
[10:17] <joshu_> syn-ack I've read that a VNC server can be started at the lightdm greeter, then the issue becomes how to access a laptop that's in a remote location with unknown NAT etc…To replicate team viewer's magic I would need the laptop on power on with an internet connection to connect to say an EC2 server that I would run and then whenever I need to help the user I would connect to the EC2 server as well..This way avoiding networking issues on th
[10:17] <joshu_>  user side.
[10:18] <syn-ack> The last time I used it was years ago, when it first hit the scene and I thought it was too clunky for my liking
[10:19] <syn-ack> joshu_, you could have it tunnel through a VPN link to your Network
[10:19] <syn-ack> most consumer type routers allow vpn passthrough by default.
[10:20] <syn-ack> though it's involved, your idea isn't a bad one, joshu_
[10:21] <lperry65> should i be asking this question somewhere else?
[10:21] <joshu_> syn-ack to provide some more info essentially this custom ubuntu I'm still putting together we some difficulty will be very simple from a user perspective. User powers on laptop, lightdm greeter presented. User either connects to internet via ethernet or provided USB modem. User logs in and VPN connection is established to my firewall and then an RDP session to my windows terminal server. User works.
[10:21] <rap_hael> hi, i rebooted my computer, and login managers (either lightdm or gdm) fails to load any wm, i have to use startx, any idea ?
[10:22] <joshu_> syn-ack from my management, support perspective I need to be able to shadow/ help the user from the lightdm greeter all the way to when they've logged in and connected to vpn, rdp. However I'm trying to cover most scenarios so let's say the laptop has an internet connection, but vpn doesn't work. IN this instance I need to be able to access the laptop outside of VPN if you know what I mean.
[10:22] <syn-ack> joshu_, then regardless you should be able to vnc in once the tunnel's up
[10:23] <syn-ack> yeah
[10:23] <syn-ack> hrm
[10:23] <DJones> lperry65: It might be worth asking in #ubuntu-server if you don't get a reply here
[10:23] <lperry65> DJones: thanks
[10:23] <syn-ack> joshu_, you could dual-home the connection, just in case, I suppose.
[10:24] <syn-ack> I mean, its *going* to be anyway, but, hrm
[10:24] <joshu_> syn-ack once tunnel is up I should be able to VNC and it's protected and all that. But I'm wondering what to do if VPN tunnel doesn't come up for whatever reason. I mean the system I provide a user will be configured and tested by me and ready to use, so maybe this is a non-issue?!
[10:24] <syn-ack> It should be a relative non-issue once the bugs are worked out
[10:24] <joshu_> syn-ack btw thanks for brainstorming with me it is very useful to bounce ideas off someone ;)
[10:25] <syn-ack> There is always an "in-case" situations, though
[10:25] <syn-ack> joshu_, np
[10:26] <joshu_> syn-ack so do you think I'm over thinking this and should be satisfied that as long as a laptop has an internet connection (ethernet or 3G) and connects via VPN then I can shadow form lightdm and update, configure whatever I need?
[10:26] <rhym> you got a webdev background zen?
[10:27] <rhym> oops
[10:27] <syn-ack> joshu_, yes, but no... I feel like I'm missing something, now
[10:27] <A_J> Hey all. I wanted to know how do i automount one of my drives on bootup of my pc
[10:27] <syn-ack> Then again, it's 0330
[10:28] <iceroot> !fstab | A_J
[10:28] <A_J> thanks iceroot
[10:28] <thatb> #rgsoc
[10:28] <joshu_> syn-ack hehe
[10:29] <syn-ack> joshu_, what's your timeline looking like? workflows, etc?
[10:29] <syn-ack> you know what, take this to a /msg
[10:41] <A_J> iceroot okie. so UUID=XYZ /media/Data Drive ntfs-3g defaults
[10:41] <A_J> thats it ?
[10:42] <iceroot> A_J: quote Data Drive because of the whitespace
[10:43] <A_J> okie thats it ?
[10:43] <iceroot> A_J: and i dont know if you need ntfs-3g, it should be fine to use   UUID=foobar /media/DataDrive ntfs defaults
[10:44] <iceroot> A_J: you can test it with "sudo mount -a" that will mount everything from fstab (which is not mounted already)
[10:45] <A_J> you ment single or double quotes iceroot ?
[10:46] <iceroot> A_J: /media/Data\ Drive  or "/media/Data Drive" should be fine
[10:46] <iceroot> A_J: but the best idea is to avoid white spaces in filenames
[10:47] <A_J> it gave an error while booting it took it as /media/"Data.
[10:47] <iceroot> A_J: "/media/Data Drive"
[10:47] <iceroot> A_J: but the best idea is to avoid white spaces in filenames
[10:48] <A_J> hmm okie. i would put in the backslash
[10:48] <A_J> but the keyboard is acting funny.
[10:48] <A_J> think the keyboard type is off.
[10:48] <A_J> printing funny characters when i push symbol keys
[10:49] <TheBrayn> hi
[10:50] <TheBrayn> how can I tell ubuntu to only keep 2 kernel versions in /boot?
[10:51] <A_J> iceroot umm well ?
[10:53] <OerHeks> TheBrayn, This page might be the help you need >> http://askubuntu.com/a/104370
[10:53] <frankboard> @OerHeks a
[10:54] <OerHeks> a ..?
[11:00] <jimmyff> hey guys, I'm installing a new ubuntu server, will migrate from my old server next week. I want to take the opportunity to upgrade the software: apache 2.4, php5.5 (or 5.4), php_pfm, mod_proxy_fcgi, postgresql 9.2 etc. I was going to go with ubuntu 12.04 as it's LTS - is this going to be a struggle?
[11:01] <dinnah> how do i enable disk controller on the bios menu?
[11:01] <OerHeks> !info apache2 precise
[11:02] <OerHeks> jimmyff, yes, current version would be apache 2.2.22
[11:02] <OerHeks> !info php5 precise
[11:03] <OerHeks> php5 too, maybe !backports will give more recent packages
[11:03] <bgardner> jimmyff: And PostgreSQL in Precise would be 9.1, I think.
[11:04] <OerHeks> bgardner +1
[11:04] <jimmyff> couldn't I add ppa's like this one: https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5 to get access to the latest packages?
[11:04] <hanuman> hi to all
[11:04] <OerHeks> PPA's are unsupported, check backports first
[11:04] <jimmyff> or is that a bad idea on a production server?
[11:04] <bgardner> jimmyff: I wouldn't for a production system, no.
[11:04] <hanuman> how can i install sudo apt-get things automatically using script in ubuntu
[11:06] <jimmyff> :( I guess they all most likely me packaged with 14.04 but I have to upgrade now as current server is overloaded
[11:06] <jimmyff> should I go for a more recent none LTS release?
[11:07] <bgardner> jimmyff: I wouldn't recommend it, no.  For a production server, that's really what the LTS releases are for.
[11:07] <jimmyff> bgardner: but 12.04 + backports is okay?
[11:08] <bgardner> jimmyff: Much better than using PPAs, yes, in my opinion.
[11:09] <jimmyff> !info apache2 quantal
[11:09] <jimmyff> gahh
[11:09] <jimmyff> :(
[11:10] <jorick> whats the open source alternative to technologies like airtunes? i want to connect my rpi to my speakers and be able to stream music to it from my laptop.
[11:10] <OerHeks> jimmyff, quantal is 12.10, check raring ( 13.04)
[11:12] <jimmyff> !info php5 quantal
[11:13] <jimmyff> OerHeks: but I thought backports was only +1 version?
[11:14] <jimmyff> oh if this is all there is in precise backports I'm stuck with the really old stuff: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-backports/allpackages\
[11:14] <A_J> jimmyff can you help me add a entry in my fstav
[11:14] <A_J> fsrab*
[11:14] <A_J> fuuu ftsab*
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> jorick: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/apples-airtunes-ubuntulinux/
[11:15] <jimmyff> A_J: I'm not very good with fstab stuff - ask the channel, im sure someone will be able to help you
[11:15] <A_J> hmm okie how do i add a Drive name "Data Drive" into my fstab
[11:15] <A_J> o/ ActionParsnip
[11:15] <jorick> ActionParsnip, im not 100% sure i want to use apple's protocol ... i was hoping there'd be a more open source friendly way to stream sound from one device to the next
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> jorick: you are connecting to an Apple product, its probably some proprietary mess
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> jorick: seems pulseaudio can do it though
[11:17] <joshu_> anyone have good recommendations of makes/models of SSDs something small 40GB or similar for ubuntu?
[11:17]  * A_J pokes ActionParsnip
[11:17] <mathfreak> A_J: What's going on exactly?
[11:17] <jorick> ActionParsnip, iam connecting my speakers to a raspberry pi... ill check out PA
[11:17] <A_J> mathfreak need to add my windows drive labled "Data Drive" in my fstab
[11:17] <A_J> for some reason it doesnt like the whitespace. and refuses to get added
[11:18] <A_J> UUID=XYZ /media/Data\ Drive ntfs-3g defaults
[11:18] <mathfreak> A_J: You have a few options. You can try escaping the whitespace with a backslash (\).
[11:18] <jimmyff> !info postgresql precise
[11:18] <mathfreak> A_J: Oh, I see.
[11:18] <k1l> A_J: you need to escape whitespaces
[11:19] <A_J> how do i do that now. i even tried quotes as someone suggested
[11:19] <A_J> didnt help
[11:19] <k1l> A_J: does the folder exist?
[11:19] <k1l> A_J: what does "mount -a" tell you?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> A_J: or drop the space in the mount point
[11:19] <mathfreak> A_J: Do you absolutely have to mount it at /media/Data\ Drive?
[11:20] <A_J> mathfreak if possible yes.
[11:20] <mathfreak> A_J: I personally would mount it somewhere like /media/Data_Drive. If I really wanted the whitespace, I can set up a symlink to it later.
[11:20] <A_J> i've got torrents recheking from there
[11:20] <KeyboardNotFound> Where I can get source code from askubuntu.com ?
[11:20] <A_J> hmm if that would work. i would not mind
[11:20] <mathfreak> A_J: I don't normally mount at paths with whitespace, so I'm gonna go experiment with this to see what happens.
[11:21] <A_J> okie lets see
[11:21] <mathfreak> A_J: Okay, then! Go ahead and create the directory /media/Data_Drive, and update your fstab so that it mounts here instead.
[11:21] <k1l> A_J: again, what does mount -a give you as error?(that re-reads the fstab)
[11:21] <mathfreak> A_J: afterwards, sudo ln -s /media/Data_Drive '/media/Data Drive'
[11:21] <OerHeks> KeyboardNotFound, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ask_Ubuntu
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> KeyboardNotFound: how do you mean? do you want the service running the forum?
[11:22] <A_J> should i add the backslash ?
[11:22] <A_J> k1l yes error on the line i just added
[11:22] <hanuman> how can i sudo apt-get upgrade command aitomatically
[11:23] <OerHeks> KeyboardNotFound,  ASP.NET MVC (Model-View-Controller) framework
[11:23] <mathfreak> A_J: For the sudo ln ... command, nope. The single quotes in the command treat the /media/Data Drive as a single string, so you're good
[11:23] <ServerSage> Is it possible to start ssh from an ubuntu 10.04 server boot cd?
[11:23] <hanuman> how can i run "sudo apt-get upgrade" command automatically
[11:23] <A_J> no such file in directory
[11:23] <A_J> mathfreak^
[11:24] <mathfreak> A_J: did you create the Data_Drive subdirectory under /media?
[11:24] <A_J> umm no. i'll create it sec
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> hanuman: do you mean on a regular basis?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> mathfreak: /me facepalms
[11:25] <mathfreak> ActionParsnip: What's up?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> ServerSage: you can remaster it so that it does
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> mathfreak: not making the mount point...
[11:25] <A_J> mathfreak it says Data drive doesnt exist.
[11:26] <ServerSage> ActionParsnip: Unfortunately, not an option right now.  I have an untrained lackey in a datacenter 3000 miles from me.
[11:26] <A_J> i think i'll reboot once mathfreak. with a working fstab then add the link]
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> A_J: sudo mkdir /media/Data\ drive     or whatever you want the mount point to be
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> ServerSage: that's the only way, unless you  get a smarthands to install the service. It will autostart once installed
[11:27] <mathfreak> A_J: if you haven't already rebooted, try ActionParsnip's command. Just capitalize the D in 'drive'
[11:28] <mathfreak> A_J: and then try the sudo ln ... command again. If it still fails, give us an output of 'ls -l /media'. Paste to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ to share.
[11:28] <ServerSage> ActionParsnip: What about like the alternate cd, or the live cd?
[11:30] <A_J> okie symlink done
[11:31] <A_J> mathfreak do a mount -a now ?
[11:31] <mathfreak> A_J: give it a shot.
[11:31] <obroni> ServerSage: can you just run "sudo apt-get install sshd" on the live
[11:32] <obroni> ServerSage: sorry, my bad
[11:32] <obroni> ServerSage: server install cd is not live system
[11:32] <export> i love how my desktop loads so fast XD
[11:32] <ServerSage> obroni: I have the lackey downloading the live cd now to do just that.
[11:32] <A_J> says Data_Drive not present
[11:32] <A_J> although i have created it and it is visible mathfreak
[11:33] <obroni> ServerSage: what's the problem anyway? a computer/OS is broken and you need ssh access to it?
[11:33] <mathfreak> A_J: Huh. Can we get a copy of the output from the command 'ls -l /media'? Paste to http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[11:34] <ServerSage> obroni: Yeah, we had a power outtage, and when the system came back up the volume group was hosed.  So, I need to get reboot from a CD, fix it, and get it going again.
[11:35] <Unknown0BC> Ok, so I just want to use a beep for perl and scripts, but "beep" is not working.
[11:36] <Unknown0BC> The ubuntu forums are down...
[11:36] <Unknown0BC> How can I get "beep" to work on ubuntu ?
[11:36] <A_J_> mathfreak: http://pastebin.com/3JqY7fqW
[11:37] <mathfreak> A_J: okay, type the following commands.
[11:37] <Ojoloco> ey guys, how could I install arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc?
[11:38] <mathfreak> A_J: sudo rmdir '/media/Data Drive'
[11:38] <mathfreak> A_J: sudo ln -s /media/Data_Drive '/media/Data Drive'
[11:38] <k-joseph> hi guys, is this right http://ubuntuforums.org/announce.html
[11:38] <mathfreak> Ojoloco: Is this for an embedded systems project?
[11:38] <k-joseph> Ubuntu Forums is down for maintenance
[11:38] <A_J> failed to remove as directory is not empty mathfreak
[11:39] <Ojoloco> mathfreak: if for compiling binaries for ARM (Android)
[11:39] <k-joseph> Unfortunately the attackers have gotten every user's local username, password, and email address from the Ubuntu Forums database.
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> rm -r /media/Data\ Drive      escape the space
[11:39] <mathfreak> A_J: Hmm... what's inside that directory?
[11:39] <obroni> ServerSage: i'm not sure if this is correct (maybe my memory tricks me) but you have to do something before you can use sudo on the live cd... maybe explicitly set the sudo password or something like that... hope i am not misleading you right now...
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> k-joseph: password hash, not password :)
[11:39] <Braden`> Hello
[11:40] <mathfreak> k-joseph: Yup. Please change any passwords you use in common with ubuntuforums.
[11:40] <A_J> mathfreak the sys link you made earlier :P
[11:40] <ServerSage> obroni: It seems to be working actually.  I downloaded it and fired up a vm, was able to install openssh-server.
[11:40] <A_J> should i delete it ?
[11:40] <NK`> no one has an idea what is the use of the environment variable "NO_AT_BRIDGE" ?
[11:40] <wizrd> ActionParsnip: that will delete all files while I assume that it only should be unmounted
[11:40] <Braden`> Jul 22 02:51:19 ip-blah kernel: [956599.816283] type=1503 audit(1374486679.099:407):  operation="mknod" pid=23849 parent=16526 profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld" requested_mask="c::" denied_mask="c::" fsuid=0 ouid=0 name="/mnt/truecrypt/mysql/ip-blah.lower-test"
[11:40] <mathfreak> A_J: Ah, I see. Yeah, go ahead and remove that symlink and then the 'Data Drive' directory.
[11:40] <Braden`> I am not sure what is going on there, but how do I fix it?
[11:40] <k-joseph> mathfreak: so unfortunate, changing that
[11:40] <obroni> ServerSage: ok - went better than expected, I'd say :D
[11:40] <ServerSage> obroni: Yup, I'm happy.
[11:40] <Braden`> The directory permissions are correct
[11:40] <ServerSage> obroni: Thanks.
[11:41] <mathfreak> A_J: we'll recreate the symlink under /media instead :p
[11:41] <A_J> how do i remove it ?
[11:41] <A_J> rm -rf ?
[11:41] <A_J> .
[11:41] <mathfreak> A_J: sudo rm '/media/Data Drive/Data Drive'
[11:41] <obroni> ServerSage: wasn't much more than hot air from my side, but you're welcome - good luck
[11:42] <Braden`> Does anyone know what might be causing that?
[11:42] <Braden`> nm
[11:42] <Braden`> Its apparmor
[11:43]  * BlackHeart panics. No beer left in the fridge.
[11:43] <A_J_> done mathfreak
[11:44] <mathfreak> A_J: How come there's A_J and then A_J_?
[11:44] <A_J> this is my windows pc. A_J_ is my unix pc
[11:44] <mathfreak> A_J: Oh, I see. Gotcha. Got '/media/Data Drive' removed as well?
[11:45] <A_J> i did sudo rm '/media/Data Drive'
[11:45] <ryan__> Hello there how do I install Ubuntu with Windows too
[11:46] <A_J> although mathfreak it yet exists on the ls
[11:46] <mathfreak> A_J: I think you'll need to do sudo rmdir '/media/Data Drive'
[11:46] <mathfreak> A_J: rm is for files, usually. rmdir for directories
[11:46] <k1l> ryan__: make paritions, first install windows, the install ubuntu.
[11:46] <obroni> ryan__: do you have windows already installed and set up or do you want to reinstall windows?
[11:47] <ryan__> k1l: obroni I already have Windows installed
[11:47] <A_J_> rmdir: failed to remove `/media/Data Drive/': Not a directory
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> ryan__: which version of windows?
[11:47] <mathfreak> A_J: interesting. can I get an updated output of 'ls -l /media'?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> A_J_: rm -r /media/Data\ Drive
[11:47] <ryan__> Plus I need a diffrent BootLoader
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> ryan__: Grub will be installed in the install process
[11:48] <ryan__> ActionParsnip: Windows Xp SP3
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> ryan__: you do know that XP has less than 300 days support left...?
[11:48] <A_J_> mathfreak: http://pastebin.com/WMqgM2xm
[11:48] <obroni> ryan__: well you can just start the ubuntu install then - it will take care of everything
[11:49] <obroni> ryan__: all you need is some free hard disk space
[11:49] <A_J> ActionParsnip lol wait a second here. i dont wanna end up deleting my data
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> ryan__: 252 days
[11:49] <mathfreak> A_J: Well, that's interesting, but it looks like everything's set for it to work now.
[11:49] <obroni> ryan__: if required, partitions  can be resized during install
[11:49] <mathfreak> A_J: Let's double-check fstab, and then we'll try mounting
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> A_J: no bad thing
[11:49] <ryan__> ActionParsnip: Yes I know and it keeps on giving me facial error
[11:49] <ryan__> when I'm trying to install
[11:49] <ryan__> #
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> ryan__: you can resize NTFS in the installer to make space for Ubyntu, then install
[11:50] <obroni> ryan__: do you use an old computer?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> ryan__: personally I recommend you use the entire space and wipe out the dying XP install.
[11:50] <obroni> ryan__: or do you have any specific reason for win xp sp3?
[11:50] <A_J_> mathfreak: http://pastebin.com/JCA47kcq
[11:51] <ryan__> ActionParsnip: NO I don't have any more disk so now I'M NOT UNINSTALLING WINDOWS XP SP3
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> ryan__: why the caps?
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> ryan__: ive only mentioned it in passing....and once?
[11:51] <A_J> lol he likes xp sp3 dont bug him to remove it
[11:51] <ryan__> obroni: no I don't have old computer and yes i do
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> ryan__: capslock slip?
[11:51] <obroni> ryan__: ok
[11:52] <ryan__> ActionParsnip: I found a way
[11:52] <ryan__> obroni: I've found a way
[11:52] <ryan__> bye
[11:52] <A_J> lol
[11:52] <ryan__> So, I'm off now if I need support for #ubuntu I know where is comes
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> ryan__: wubi is not a long term solution btw, its a quick try before you buy. If the way you found is wubi, i suggest you dont use it
[11:52] <obroni> ryan__: bye :)
[11:52] <mathfreak> A_J: I think you can remove the quotation marks around /media/Data_Drive in fstab now.
[11:53] <bgardner> NK`: See: https://blogs.oracle.com/jeffcai/entry/release_java_access_bridge_1
[11:53] <A_J> okie mathfreak should i give it a reboot and check ?
[11:53] <ryan__> ActionParsnip: Why are you my mother or something ;)
[11:53] <NK`> thx bgardner
[11:53] <ryan__> ActionParsnip: I use what ever I want to USE OKAY NOW F*** OFF V
[11:53] <mathfreak> A_J: sure thing.
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> ryan__: just a recommendation, wubi is super fragile
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> ryan__: get a new attitude, ok
[11:54] <obroni> ryan__: better don't use wubi
[11:54] <A_J> ryan__ use xp it's better than any linux os
[11:54] <A_J> the BSOD's rock
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> ryan__: when people suggest things to you they aren't having ago or anything like that
[11:54] <ryan__> STFU PREV
[11:54] <ryan__> *PERV
[11:54] <obroni> Oo
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> ryan__: yeah, you know I'm a perv from our short discussion....
[11:54] <ryan__> i don't want help of you ActionParsnip
[11:54] <A_J> lmao
[11:55] <gotwig> whats up with the website countdown? Do today "two surfaces merge" ??
[11:55] <gotwig> or was it just an accident?
[11:55] <A_J> ActionParsnip man let it go. your too awesome for him
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> A_J: hehe, most people are from what's been going on
[11:55] <gotwig> A_J: what is xp
[11:55] <A_J> mathfreak will my torrents work ? or will i have to manually point em
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> gotwig: Microsoft's OS, Win XP
[11:55] <gotwig> A_J: wait... I dont even care :)
[11:55] <A_J> GothPaw err windows xp ? worst windows os ever ?
[11:55] <A_J> lol
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> A_J: nar, vista and millenium were far worse
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> A_J: xp was decent
[11:56] <ryan__> 01010111011010000111100100100000011001000110111101101110001001110111010000100000011110010110111101110101001000000110011001110101011000110110101100100000011011110110011001100110
[11:56] <ryans_good_twin> ActionParsnip: sorry for the behaviour of my bad twin :(
[11:56] <gotwig> can someone tell m something about he countdown?
[11:56] <A_J> my xp kept giving me bsod. thats why i started using linux in the first place.
[11:56] <DJones> ryan__: Stop that,
[11:56] <mathfreak> A_J: Did you set up the torrent client to save files to '/media/Data Drive'? They'll work.
[11:56] <gotwig> whats up with the countdown?? was it an acciden? there is like no official statement
[11:56] <mathfreak> gotwig: Where's this countdown?
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> A_J: i just got sick of issues
[11:57] <gotwig> mathfreak: it was exactly 4 day ago on the website
[11:57] <BlackHeart> A_J, issues with drivers?
[11:57] <A_J> BlackHeart not sure. was back is 2002
[11:57] <mathfreak> gotwig: I'm not sure which website we're talking about here.
[11:58] <A_J> mathfreak worked wonderful. thank you very much
[11:58] <gotwig> mathfreak: ubuntu.com
[11:58] <mathfreak> A_J: glad to see it working. enjoy!
[11:58] <A_J> one question though i would like a few programs to start on boot. is it going to be easy ?
[11:59] <chefkoch> A_J: on ubuntu?
[11:59] <BlackHeart> A_J, what programs?
[11:59] <A_J> yes xbuntu. i found a session and startup manager
[11:59] <gotwig> A_J: are you a troll?
[11:59] <A_J> Deluge and Sabnzb
[11:59] <A_J> no i'm not
[11:59] <mathfreak> A_J: One final thing. We made some dummy directories in /media while setting it up. You can use sudo rmdir '"Data' 'Data\' to remove them (note the single quotes. Type that exactly)
[12:00] <BlackHeart> A_J, if you already found startup/session manager, where is the problem?
[12:00] <chefkoch> A_J: wanted to point you to the respective sessionmanager of your distro
[12:00]  * A_J is not familiar with the command to start a program in linux.
[12:00] <NK`> thx bgardner i found was I was looking for :)
[12:00] <gotwig> so, no one does know anything about the countdown at all? I am Ubuntu Member, and I've got no freaking idea
[12:00] <mathfreak> A_J: Starting programs on boot? Eh, that's out of my scope. I never really learned the finer details of bootup.
[12:00] <NK`> what*
[12:01] <A_J> i mean except type it in the terminal window
[12:01] <napsc> gotwig: only speculation floating around
[12:01] <gotwig> A_J:  #xubuntu just saying
[12:01] <A_J> np mathfreak ty very much
[12:01] <bgardner> NK`: Happy to help
[12:01] <napsc> http://www.geek.com/android/mysterious-ubuntu-countdown-pops-up-and-disappears-1562808/
[12:01] <gotwig> napsc: was it an accident?
[12:01] <mathfreak> A_J: if you know the name of the program, you can just type the name of it into the command line and press enter to start it
[12:01] <napsc> dunno
[12:01] <A_J> mathfreak what is the thing to start it with a hidden terminal
[12:02] <chefkoch> A_J: the go with the startup manager
[12:02]  * BlackHeart listening to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KkarMNlTzY
[12:02] <chefkoch> A_J: don't know it for xubuntu though
[12:02] <mathfreak> A_J: If you want the program to start when you log in, you can use startup manager
[12:03] <gotwig> why should the Ubuntu Edge be anounced today, when Mark's keynote is on Wednesday?
[12:03] <chefkoch> A_J: the only thing you might want to consider: if you want to start services BEFORE you log in you have to do it in the initscripts
[12:03] <mathfreak> A_J: If you want it to start when you boot up, you're going to have to deal with the rc* scripts (and that's something I don't know very much about)
[12:03] <lenz> Wow thats really embarassing
[12:04] <BlackHeart> chefkoch, not sure what Sabnzb is, but Deluge doesn't need to be run as a daemon (service).
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> mathfreak: gnome-do, katapult (kde)
[12:04] <A_J> i think i managed it with the startup manager
[12:04] <A_J> lets hope
[12:04] <BlackHeart> A_J, you think?
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> mathfreak: gmrun is what I use
[12:05] <A_J> waiting on a reboot
[12:05] <gotwig> A_J: you said you use xubuntu
[12:05] <chefkoch> BlackHeart: ah ok - didn't knwo he mentioned the specific prog he wanted to start
[12:05] <A_J> yes gotwig
[12:06] <A_J> nop didnt work
[12:06] <wachpwnski-mobi> how can i tell if a restart is pending on the cli?
[12:07] <BlackHeart> A_J, http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.com/2011/12/add-application-to-xfcexubuntu-session.html
[12:07] <mathfreak> wachpwnski-mobi: ps aux| grep shutdown
[12:07] <mathfreak> wachpwnski-mobi: ps aux| grep reboot works too
[12:07] <BlackHeart> A_J, that's the first entry in Google
[12:07] <chefkoch> A_J: check in your dmesg, just to make sure - maybe something went wrong
[12:07] <wachpwnski-mobi> mathfreak: then what will it tell me?
[12:08] <chefkoch> A_J: but go with the link BlackHeart first
[12:08] <A_J> BlackHeart i dont know the command. :(
[12:08] <A_J> i've done now deluge.desktop
[12:08] <wachpwnski-mobi> I mean like when you upgrade if you need to restart for changes to take effect, not that a restart was initialized
[12:08] <mathfreak> wachpwnski-mobi: The first one tells you if a shutdown command is counting down before a shutdown/reboot
[12:08] <BlackHeart> A_J, deluge
[12:08] <A_J> umm okie
[12:08] <BlackHeart> A_J, as I already said, I don't know the second app you mentioned so .. no help on that one, sorry.
[12:09] <mathfreak> wachpwnski-mobi: The second one does the same, except it checks if someone's rebooting with the "reboot" command instead of the "shutdown" command
[12:09] <A_J> np ty BlackHeart
[12:10] <greyhat> hey ,guys
[12:10] <gotwig> why should the Ubuntu Edge be anounced today, when Mark's keynote is on Wednesday?
[12:10] <greyhat> broden
[12:10] <greyhat> are you here?
[12:11]  * BlackHeart laughs at greyhat
[12:11] <greyhat> blackheart
[12:11] <greyhat> what's up?
[12:11] <greyhat> answer me
[12:12] <k1l> gotwig: that is not a topic in this technical support channel. better do discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[12:12] <greyhat> good idea
[12:13] <BlackHeart> greyhat, you think?
[12:14] <greyhat> nothing
[12:14] <greyhat> you  laught at me
[12:14] <BlackHeart> greyhat, you think *nothing*?
[12:15] <jubei> guys I'm stuck trying to install java http://codepad.org/xa4s0LXk
[12:15] <jubei> something about held back packages, doesn't proceed no matter what I try
[12:15] <Pici> BlackHeart: Can we please keep #ubuntu clear for support, discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[12:16] <saiarcot895> jubei: for the held-back packages, do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[12:16] <greyhat> which country do you live ,blackheart
[12:16] <wasanzy> hello I am still finding it difficult to install ubuntu along side with windows 8. windows 8 was on the machine before I bought so I partitioned it to enable me install ubuntu too. but when installing ubuntu, it doesn't see the disk as partitioned but want to use the whole disk
[12:16] <BlackHeart> Pici, as you wish
[12:16] <wasanzy> I need a help
[12:16] <DJones> !ot | greyhat
[12:16] <auronandace> jubei: what is the output of: lsb_release -sd
[12:16] <greyhat> just say
[12:17] <jubei> auronandace, ubnutu 12.10
[12:17] <chefkoch> wasanzy: how did yo partition the disk?
[12:17] <wachpwnski-mobi> mathfreak: I am more looking for something that is saying a restart is required after a dist-upgrade or something
[12:17] <jubei> saiarcot895, that didn't do anything
[12:18] <greyhat> i want to have foreign friend to talk with me
[12:18] <auronandace> greyhat: that can be done in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:18] <mathfreak> wachpwnski-mobi: Oh, hm... I usually know a restart is required when I log in through a terminal. For the desktop, there's an icon telling me that I have to restart when I need to restart.
[12:18] <greyhat> ok
[12:18] <DJones> greyhat: This channel is for Ubuntu support issues, you'll need to find friends to talk to in other channels
[12:19] <A_J> anyway thank you guys
[12:19] <A_J> awesome help :)
[12:19] <wasanzy> in windows, I used the disk manager to shrink the disk, it didn't work so I formatted it disk and when installing windows, I used a small part of the disk leaving the rest unalocated but still
[12:19] <jubei> oh I just realized that I made my apt-sources for precise
[12:19] <auronandace> !uefi | wasanzy
[12:20] <chefkoch> auronandace: that
[12:20] <chefkoch> auronandace: that's not really the matter
[12:20] <storagenewbie> hi guys I am trying to setup a debian server for a storage file system with RAID 6 and LVM system, now I have the question what would be better for managing 26TB of storage size, ext4 or XFS?
[12:21] <chefkoch> storagenewbie: go #debian`?
[12:21] <cfhowlett> storagenewbie, probably best to ask #debian, yes?
[12:21] <storagenewbie> alright thank you
[12:21] <chefkoch> wasanzy: your new windows install is working?
[12:22] <wasanzy> auronandace, I followed that and any time I disabled the Legency, the boot options never shows boot from dvd/cdrom.
[12:23] <chefkoch> auronandace: ok, seem's you're on the right track and i was not :P
[12:23] <storagenewbie> sorry :) I meant Ubuntu Server 12.04.2 mystyped :(
[12:23] <wasanzy> chefkoch, no I format it and install only ubuntu since I need ubuntu the most, but I still want to mantain the windows 8
[12:24] <anonee> hello, after a power failure, the audio device is gone, but I can hear the login sound, I can adjust the volume on the login screen too, but when I login it disappears again.
[12:24] <auronandace> wasanzy: sorry, i don't use uefi, i'm just aware of that wiki page
[12:25] <mathfreak> anonee: Which desktop are you using? Unity?
[12:25] <wasanzy> auronandace: ok, am sure someone else here might had similar issue
[12:26] <wasanzy> anyone to help further?
[12:26] <anonee> mathfreak GNOME 3.4 fallback
[12:26] <chefkoch> wasanzy: hm, you confuse me a bit... do you currently have a working windows 8 installation on your hard disk?
[12:27] <anonee> mathfreak cuz i use compiz, and btw i use pulseaudio equalizer, which means there were 2 sound devices, and both are gone now
[12:27] <wasanzy> chefkoch: No
[12:27] <chefkoch> wasanzy: ok. do you want to have windows on your computer again?
[12:28] <zipy> does "find" work too with a string included by a file?
[12:28] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:28] <wasanzy> chefkoch: Yes
[12:28] <chefkoch> wasanzy: sorry to ask you such "stupid" questions, but i want to make sure i get everything right before giving advice
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: hi mate
[12:28] <chefkoch> wasanzy: ok
[12:28] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, so ... we meet again, Mr. Kaj.   :)
[12:29] <mathfreak> Gah, I usually defer back to the forums for issues, since there's so many solutions on forums. Sucks that it's down right no.
[12:29] <BluesKaj> hiyas lotuspsychje , cfhowlett
[12:29] <chefkoch> wasanzy: you need to install windows, before you install ubuntu (becuase windows will not recognize ubuntu, but ubuntu recognizes windows)
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> zipy: you mean the !find trigger?
[12:29] <wasanzy> chefkoch: don't worry about the questions
[12:29] <chefkoch> wasanzy: so what happens when you try to install windows?
[12:29] <chefkoch> wasanzy: windows 8 it is, correct?
[12:29] <Beatstreet> when installing Ubuntu Server on a drive other then sda do I need to tell the master boot record to install to the drive (sde1) I have setup to mount at / or should installer do it automatically?
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> Beatstreet: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might help you aswell
[12:30] <greyhat> hey
[12:32] <wasanzy> chefkoch: the situation now is, when ubuntu is on the machine, windows sees all the partitions but says, could not install windows on the disk, the only way I could install windows again is to format the whole disk and create new partition with the windows cd. when windows is on the machine, ubuntu doesn't see the partitions but sees it as one disk so u can only use the whole disk
[12:33] <wasanzy> chefkoch: yes windows 8
[12:33] <zipy> lotuspsychje, lets say i have a folder with 5 .txt files, i want to find the file that cointains "hello" in it so i know which one to open
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> zipy: maybe grep can help you? man grep
[12:34] <zipy> but it doesnt open files and search in them
[12:34] <chefkoch> wasanzy: ok. it is no surprise that windows does not see the ubuntu install. but ubuntu not seeing windows - that is strange
[12:34] <zipy> grep only filters
[12:34] <anonee> wasanzy this is normal, you need to read about partitioning your hard drive, ntfs and ext systems
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> zipy: hmm not sure then
[12:34] <wasanzy> chefkoch:yes very strange
[12:34] <chefkoch> wasanzy: usually you have 3 options during ubuntu install. 1) use all space 2) use left over space 3) manual config
[12:35] <zipy> hmm ok thx anyways
[12:35] <chefkoch> wasanzy: did you get at any point of the ubuntu installation to a scrren that let's you select how to partition?
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> zipy: re-ask your issue here once in a while im sure they can solve this
[12:35] <saiarcot895> zipy: grep should be able to search in text files
[12:36] <saiarcot895> zipy: grep (-r) "string" .
[12:36] <wasanzy> chefkoch: yes when I go to  manual config, it sees the whole disk as one, so it doesn't sees the windows partition
[12:36] <braulio> Hello everyone. Can anyone give me a help? I'm just starting with Linux and I installed the Xubuntu 13.04 on it. Everything is working perfectly but I have a problem that is already known for the EeePC PXB1001: The internal microphone does not work. Is there a simple way to fix it?
[12:36] <chefkoch> wasanzy: hm, ok - that is really odd
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> saiarcot895: tnx for the grep tip
[12:36] <saiarcot895> wasanzy: is it an encrypted disk or something like that?
[12:36] <auronandace> wasanzy: could you show us some screenshots of that?
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> zipy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127892/how-to-find-a-text-file-which-contains-a-specific-word-inside-not-in-its-name
[12:37] <zipy> ye foudn that page :P
[12:37] <wasanzy> anonee: I am aware of partitions, so this one is very strange to me.
[12:37] <chefkoch> wasanzy: ok, i am going to stop to help you. 1) my knowledge can not help you further 2) saiarcot895 and auronandace may be a better help to you - good luck
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> braulio: maybe you can trace down the audio error in your logs and pastebin it here?
[12:38] <zipy> find / -name "shares" | grep -r hello *
[12:38] <zipy> like this?
[12:38] <anonee> wasanzy would u try partitioning your hdd first using some 3rd party partitioning software?
[12:38] <zipy> looking for all files with "shares" in name and then grep the ones with hello?
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> !who | zipy
[12:39] <mathfreak> anonee: Best thing I can suggest is try adding the Notification Area to the gnome panel again. If that doesn't work, I'm stumped. :p
[12:39] <zipy> !you
[12:39] <zipy> :P
[12:39] <saiarcot895> zipy: that might work; I'm not sure about the star at the end, though
[12:39] <zipy> hmm ok
[12:39] <braulio> lotuspsuchje: I just switched from Windows, don't know how to do that. Can you explain me? The problem that I have seems to be this exact same: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/689258
[12:39] <zipy> ill just try
[12:39] <wasanzy> saiarcot895: I am not sure is encrypted. but this is a new technology hp is trying to use together with microsoft.
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> braulio: you can find your logs in /var/log/syslog.1 and trace down issues with your audio
[12:40] <wasanzy> anonee: I don't have any third party partiotioning software
[12:40] <anonee> mathfreak ofcourse i have the notification area in the panel, and the audio icon is there, and when i click it i get rhythm box but the volume slider is inactive..
[12:40] <saiarcot895> wasanzy: my guess is that since Ubuntu sees just one whole disk, it might be that the disk is encrypted, either with BitLocker/TPM or HP's software
[12:41] <saiarcot895> wasanzy: In windows, open up the HP Essential Tools (or something like that, forgot the name), and check if Drive Encryption is enabled
[12:42] <wasanzy> saiarcot895: ok
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> braulio: seems like one guy solved the bug with kernel update
[12:43] <braulio> lotuspsuchje: is there a keyword that I should look for in the log? How do I do that?
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> braulio: i think grep can do that aswell, find matches on pulseaudio example in /var/log
[12:44] <saiarcot895> zipy: you might be better off first doing a grep on the string you want to search inside the file and then another grep searching for the name of the file
[12:45] <DKFermi> Hi, I'm trying to install a really annoying unbranded network print server that (at least under windows) is displayed as LPR printer. Any idea how to do that?
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> braulio: vim can do colored text sorting aswell in /var/log/syslog.1
[12:46] <auronandace> !cups | DKFermi
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> !info vim | braulio
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> braulio: or do a tail -f /var/log/syslog.1 for realtime issues
[12:47] <greyhat> who has a QQ number
[12:48] <auronandace> greyhat: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:48] <braulio> lotuspsychje: I looked up here in the syslog.1 and it doesn't seem to appear any problem related to audio there.
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> braulio: can you pastebin it anyway for us? (or paste ubuntu)
[12:49] <cfhowlett> greyhat, this is not a dating channel ...
[12:50] <braulio> lotuspsychje: another thing is, when I go to the sound settings seems like the mic is "installed" because when I clap in front of the mic it kind of responds, just not loud enough. I checked the volumes and everything but it doesn seem to fix.
[12:51] <braulio> lotuspsychje: this is all that I found for the keyword "audio": [pulseaudio] server-lookup.c: Unable to contact D-Bus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NotSupported: Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11 || [pulseaudio] main.c: Unable to contact D-Bus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NotSupported: Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11
[12:53] <anonee> mathfreak Im gonna try this https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iTlJ8BfqXUjaHO__TEdlkvuqB1WLOkGaudngc5SFLMI/edit?pli=1&hl=en
[12:55] <mathfreak> anonee: Ah, sorry. I'm headed off to bed soon. I'm afraid I won't be able to help you on the sound at all.
[12:55] <anocide> is it normal to have multiple instances of dbus-daemon running?
[12:56] <mathfreak> anonee: The guide looks interesting though.
[12:56] <anonee> no mathfreak I don't mean that, yeah this is why I wanted you to see it :) thank you man
[12:57] <mathfreak> anonee: Good luck on resolving the volume slider. The volume applet has actually given me lots of trouble in the past, but I never knew how I resolved it each time. Oh well... good night!
[12:58] <anonee> mathfreak peach, good night.
[12:58] <anonee> mathfreak peace i mean lol
[13:03] <anocide> is it normal to have multiple instances of dbus-daemon running?
[13:06] <gotwig> ChickenCutlass: hello
[13:06] <gotwig> bac: hello
[13:07] <bac> hello gotwig
[13:07] <gotwig> bac: can you tell me something about the countdown thing?
[13:08] <gotwig> bac: was it an accident?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> gotwig: omgubuntu have a post on it
[13:08] <bac> gotwig: no, i can't.
[13:08] <bac> gotwig: should be exciting
[13:08] <gotwig> bac: oh.. :>
[13:09] <lqz> join #linuxba
[13:09] <bac> gotwig: the page at http://www.ubuntu.com has a lot more lines now!  :)
[13:09] <gotwig> bac: haha, thx :D
[13:10] <cfhowlett> !ot|gotwig, we'll know when they tell us.  Anything else is mere speculation.
[13:11] <gotwig> I just wanted to be sure, that today is the right day..
[13:14] <srini_> i
[13:14] <srini_> hello all
[13:14] <Casey> if I wanted to have a raid1 for storage and be able to access it the raid when I switch between OS's (windows and ubuntu) what would be best  formate scheme to us, GUID or MasterBoot?
[13:14] <cfhowlett> srini_, greetings
[13:15] <Braden`> none                    148216    142717         0 100% /var/lib/ureadahead/debugfs   <-- What is that and why is it 100%?
[13:15] <Braden`> mysqld complains that ureadahead is full
[13:18] <Braden`> Anyone?
[13:18] <anocide> hello, try one more time - how many instances of dbus-daemon should be running?
[13:19] <saiarcot895> anocide: I have 3 on my system
[13:20] <anocide> saiarcot895: thanks - damn. I was hoping you'd say 2, then i'd have somewhere to look
[13:21] <saiarcot895> anocide: I just found 2 more running under other users
[13:21] <anocide> my dbus and gnome-keyring have stopped talking to each other, broke my 3g wireless. Very little info out there, and none of it works.
[13:21] <jlarouche> 5679
[13:27] <BlackHeart> I want to dual-boot Ubuntu w/ Window 8. How to install it without messing up Windows 8 and PCs default recovery partition?
[13:27] <BlackHeart> Last time I tried, I was left with nothing except Ubuntu.
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> BlackHeart: resize NTFS in WIndows
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> BlackHeart: then install Ubuntu to the unpartitioned space
[13:30] <ezra-s> Ubuntu installation is very clear showing which options you can use, if you wipe your windows partition while installing is because you don't read
[13:31] <usr13> BlackHeart: Of course, you should back up any important files first, just in case.
[13:31] <cfhowlett> ezra-s, that's a bit harsh.  ubuntu is known to not see other partitions at times.
[13:31] <Casey> if I wanted to have a raid1 for storage and be able to access the raid when I switch between OS's (windows and ubuntu) what would be best  formate scheme to us, GUID or MasterBoot?
[13:32] <ezra-s> cfhowlett, alright, it might, but if you see ubuntu installation does not show the option, then you do know there is a problem.. you just don't go and select the first option "wipe the whole disk and install"
[13:32] <usr13> cfhowlett: The ubuntu user is known to not see other partitions at times.
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> Casey: as long as you use NTFS for the resultant partition(s) it will be usable in both. Not sure about the GUID/Masterboot thing
[13:32] <ezra-s> no harshness at all, one just needs to pay attention
[13:33] <ezra-s> usr13, I'm with you :)
[13:33] <cfhowlett> ezra-s, true I wouldn't ... but new users?  anyways, have we a solution?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> usr13: people are just used to hitting next as fast as Michael J Fox
[13:33] <k-joseph> BlackHeart: ;begin with win 8 and then then install ubuntu, i guess you are aware, it is better u shrink a seperate volume/ partition for ubuntu and leave it un allocated, on install you may allow ubuntu to partition that unallocated space automatically  for u, alot of resources are up try google incase of any issues, and to have a better knowledge base ::::: :)
[13:33] <lewandowski> I have a problem, I am installing Ubuntu 12.04 on a windows netbook, I have a free 100GB partition. The installer shows partitions, but how do i know which one is right?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> Casey: MBR should be ok
[13:33] <ezra-s> cfhowlett, well, windows does not care a bit about whatever there is installed beforehand, Ubuntu does.. so it is a problem with the user, not Ubuntu
[13:33] <usr13> cfhowlett: One problem folks run into is already having 4 primary partitions.
[13:34] <ezra-s> if users are used to not pay attention there is not much you can do
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> lewandowski  are you now in ubuntu, a live session?
[13:34] <cfhowlett> usr13, I've got to plead ignorance.  I understood that the new UEFI did away with the 4 primary partition limit ...
[13:34] <lewandowski> Yeah,
[13:34] <Casey> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the reply, thats what I was thinking as well (either would work) but I wanted to make sure that there wasn't a more "preferred " option.
[13:34] <BlackHeart> ActionParsnip, that was really *helpful*
[13:34] <lewandowski> MonkeyDust: I am,  should i choose install beside windows?
[13:34] <Casey> ActionParsnip: thanks again.
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> lewandowski  open gparted, a windows partition is marked as NTFS, don't use that partition
[13:35] <BlackHeart> k-joseph, considering Windows 8 ins already installed, shoud I use the Windows installer or boot Ubuntu from the CD?
[13:35] <BlackHeart> k-joseph, also, will I be able to resize my Windows partiton from the Live CD?
[13:35] <lewandowski> MonkeyDust: Is gparted there on the live disk?
[13:35]  * BlackHeart haven't used Ubuntu for a while ..
[13:35] <usr13> cfhowlett: And so if you already have 4 primary partitions, you have two choices; 1) Use another HD.  2) Delete one of the 4 primary partitions and create an extended one in place of it.
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> lewandowski  yes
[13:36] <lewandowski> MonkeyDust: Ok, wait a sec, my netbook is slow as shit.
[13:36] <ezra-s> hehe
[13:37] <cfhowlett> usr13, yeah I've run into that.  But  I thought UEFI didn't have that limitation ... it applied to MBR setups only?
[13:37] <ezra-s> cfhowlett, yes, mbr only
[13:38] <usr13> cfhowlett: There seems to be some Win8 PC's on the market these days that have one HD with 4 primary partitions.  UEFI is another issue, a totally separate problem.
[13:38] <k-joseph> BlackHeart: just shrink a new volume and leave it unallocated, then boot the live CD, on the partition part, use a manual one and then choose your unallocated space, some distributions of ubuntu allow automatic partitioning for you, all you need is to select the space and choose that option, if it is missing then you manually create the partitions your self
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> BlackHeart: Win8 can resize its own partition
[13:39]  * cfhowlett ... totally confused by it all.  sticking with my 2009 Dell/ubuntu/win7 as long as it'll boot 
[13:39] <werxxx> Re
[13:39] <werxxx> Есть кто
[13:39] <lewandowski> MonkeyDust: I have opened it, there is a dev/sda1 which says system reserved(its 100 MB) and dev/sda2 has an exclamation mark beside it(!)
[13:39] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[13:39] <usr13> BlackHeart: As ActionParsnip points out, Win8 has it's own partitioning resize tool and it is best to use it.
[13:39] <werxxx> Sorry men
[13:40] <sssilver> Hello gentlemen
[13:40] <cfhowlett> sssilver, and the rest of us?
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> lewandowski  any comment with the exclamation mark
[13:40] <sssilver> I'm randomly getting "Segmentation fault" in my X, regardless of the DM (I've tried Unity, XFCE, Openbox). Then my GDM restarts. What gives?
[13:40] <ezra-s> cfhowlett, go to google and type  "GPT vs. MBR" there are a few external sites that will tell you exact descriptions
[13:40] <lewandowski> No. Its of 100 GB NTFS and it does not show how much is used and how much is free
[13:40] <sssilver> cfhowlett, the rest of you, hello to you too!
[13:41] <cfhowlett> sssilver, greetings
[13:41] <lewandowski> MonkeyDust: No. Its of 100 GB NTFS and it does not show how much is used and how much is free
[13:41] <sssilver> this segfault has been driving me nuts for days. How should I approach this?
[13:41] <cfhowlett> ezra-s, thanks.  no need to subject myself to all that yet.  Ye Ole Dell 1545 is still plugging along.
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> lewandowski  have you anything installed on that netbook?
[13:42] <lewandowski> MonkeyDust: I have win 7 on some sda and my personal data on dev/sda3(NTFS)
[13:42] <ezra-s> cfhowlett, but you seemed interested in it, so there it goes, knowledge never fills space :)
[13:43] <lewandowski> MonkeyDust: Is the exclamation mark some kind of a corruption?
[13:43] <ezra-s> lewandowski, 100GB NTFS mean the whole partition is used up by NTFS and you have to resize to make room for another partition
[13:43] <BlackHeart> k-joseph, ActionParsnip, usr13 Thank you all! Once I'll get it burned, I'll see how it goes and get back to you if I'll run into any questions.
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> lewandowski  ctrl-alt t to open a terminal, paste the following line       sudo apt-get install pastebinit;sudo fdisk -l|pastebinit     and paste the url here
[13:44] <BlackHeart> Any news on ubuntuforums.org?
[13:44] <lewandowski> ezra-s: I have another 100 GB NTFS free and want to install ubuntu in it.
[13:45] <k-joseph> BlackHeart: safe go ahead,
[13:45] <ezra-s> lewandowski, it is not free if it is 100 GB NTFS
[13:45] <ezra-s> NTFS is a partition type, no free space
[13:45] <wilee-nilee> BlackHeart, you would want #ubuntuforums
[13:45] <lewandowski> ezra-s: It says 98 GB free.
[13:45] <lewandowski> ezra-s: So i want to install it on that. can i?
[13:45] <ezra-s> lewandowski, then you can do that for installing, reserve some space for swap too
[13:46] <ezra-s> swap = as much as your RAM if you want to hibernate in common setups
[13:46] <lewandowski> ezra-s: Where to set for swap?
[13:46] <ezra-s> lewandowski, you make two partitions in free space one for / and another for swap
[13:47] <ezra-s> so for example 90GB for / and 8GB for swap
[13:47] <lewandowski> ezra-s: Ok. Fine. Nothing wrong right?
[13:47] <ezra-s> there are more fancier partition layouts
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> ezra-s: with 8Gb RAM, yes if you need hibernate
[13:47] <ezra-s> lewandowski, no, nothing wrong.. also make backup first, because mistakes happen
[13:47] <lewandowski> ezra-s: can i install linux on ntfs?
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> ezra-s: I'd even go to 9Gb swap
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> lewandowski: its not suitable
[13:47] <ezra-s> lewandowski, sinner!!
[13:48]  * ezra-s pukes
[13:48] <ezra-s> :o)
[13:48] <lewandowski> ezra-s: But my partition is ntfs, will the installer make it non-ntfs?
[13:48] <ezra-s> lewandowski, let's see.... you need some backgrounds about partitions
[13:48] <ikaslea> ello
[13:48] <lewandowski> ezra-s: Please educate.
[13:48] <usr13> lewandowski: You should use a native filesystem for the OS you install.  One of the most popular and most widely used ones for linux is ext4
[13:48] <cfhowlett> ikaslea, greetings
[13:48] <ezra-s> lewandowski, I am going home in a minute, I don't have time
[13:49] <lewandowski> usr13: Would you continue?
[13:49] <ezra-s> lewandowski, just take into account partitions are used space and free space is for new partitions
[13:49] <ikaslea> sdgñg
[13:49] <lewandowski> ezra-s: Ok. Thanks for the help! Safe Journey!
[13:49] <usr13> lewandowski: You want other choices?
[13:49] <ezra-s> NTFS is windows propietary
[13:49] <ezra-s> Linux uses EXT2/3/4
[13:49] <ezra-s> and swap is a "type of partition" in itself
[13:50] <usr13> lewandowski: (I was just answering your question about trying to install Linux on NTFS. The short answer is no.)
[13:50] <lewandowski> usr13: My GParted is showing the partition on /dev/sda4 as NTFS with 98 GB. I want to format the drive.
[13:50] <ezra-s> lewandowski, when you install ubuntu it usually is wise knowing where it can install itself it you have doubts you can take screenshots of pictures, share them to internet and ask if you are doing it correctly
[13:50] <lewandowski> usr13: So, should i format it to ext4 and install?
[13:51] <ezra-s> lewandowski, in any case I would try to understand it better before doing anything, just as a precaution, experimentation can and will lead to error
[13:51] <lewandowski> ezra-s: Murphy's law!
[13:51] <usr13> lewandowski: First, make sure it is a partition that you don't need.
[13:51] <ezra-s> experimentation is not bad, but risk
[13:51] <ezra-s> y
[13:51] <ezra-s> lewandowski, exactly
[13:51] <wilee-nilee> lewandowski, 4 partitions in the standard msdos partitioning is the max for a single hd, I hope your helpers look at what is actually there.
[13:51] <usr13> lewandowski: (... one you don't need for something else.)
[13:52] <ezra-s> I know what I do because I do it a thousand times, but my first times I was in the same situation as you are now.. so I assumed the risks and I would not complain
[13:52] <lewandowski> usr13: I suppose yes. Let me see,
[13:52] <ezra-s> don't blame ubuntu if you fail because you are not fully prepared! ;P
[13:52] <wilee-nilee> 4 primary anyway
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> lewandowski  do some reading, first https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes
[13:52] <ezra-s> having said this, lewandowski , good luck and I hope you get to be a proud ubuntu user soon
[13:53] <ezra-s> gotta go, bye
[13:53] <pr0gu1ka> Please need help. How to configure ufw/iptables to deny all incoming connections but i want apps like firefox or irc working
[13:53] <lewandowski> usr13:  dev/sda1 is labelled System Reserved and is 100MB NTFS, sda2 is having an exclamation mark, sda3 is my personal data, sda4 is the partition i wish to install(NTFS)
[13:54] <linux_hacks> pr0gu1ka: use firewall util
[13:54] <pr0gu1ka> linux_hacks: ok will check
[13:54] <linux_hacks> pr0gu1ka:http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gufw-simple-gui-for-ufw-uncomplicated-firewall.html
[13:55] <pr0gu1ka> linux_hacks: ty )
[13:55] <usr13> wilee-nilee: We already discussed the limitation of 4 primary partitions, but thanks for re-stating.
[13:55] <lewandowski> usr13: I wish to install on sda4.
[13:55] <linux_hacks> pr0gu1ka: am glad..
[13:55] <wilee-nilee> usr13, Cool, It seems they do not understand it though.
[13:55] <usr13> I know
[13:55] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[13:56] <lewandowski> usr13: Please help. I am going to convert sda4 to ext4 and making a swap of 6GB. Is that correct?
[13:57] <Ojoloco> hi guys, I'm having this trouble: /usr/local/angstrom/arm/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi- gcc: cannot execute binary file
[13:57] <wilee-nilee> lewandowski, No it needs to be a extended for logical partitions inside
[13:57] <lewandowski> wilee-nilee: So, should i NOT make it ext4?
[13:57] <usr13> lewandowski: How much RAM do you have?
[13:58] <lewandowski> usr13: 6GB
[13:58] <usr13> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning
[13:58] <wilee-nilee> lewandowski, You have good help here, I don't want to just add more.
[13:58] <usr13> lewandowski: ok good.
[13:58] <lewandowski> wilee-nilee: Help me anyway, you guys are awesome!
[13:59] <wilee-nilee> lewandowski, My advice is to keep your cart behind your horse. ;)
[13:59] <lewandowski> wilee-nilee: I have many carts. Thats the problem here.
[14:00] <wilee-nilee> I noticed, are you backed up. lewandowski
[14:00] <lewandowski> wilee-nilee: Backed up and tight!
[14:00] <lewandowski> wilee-nilee: First thing to do.
[14:00] <wilee-nilee> cool
[14:00] <lewandowski> wilee-nilee: I just booted up windows, I can see the empty partition.
[14:01] <usr13> lewandowski: How many partitions are there?
[14:01] <lewandowski> usr13: I have a 320GB HDD with three partitions
[14:01] <usr13> lewandowski: If there is an empty one, delete it.
[14:01] <lewandowski> usr13: I have an empty partition, delete as in from windows?
[14:01] <lewandowski> usr13: Or using gparted?
[14:01] <usr13> yes
[14:02] <usr13> from windows
[14:02] <tuocuggino> !chat
[14:02] <lewandowski> usr13: Make it unallocated you say.
[14:02] <usr13> yes
[14:03] <lewandowski> usr13: Done sir. Its now unallocated.
[14:03] <lewandowski> usr13: And i cant see it in my computer
[14:03] <usr13> lewandowski: How much unallocated space do you have?
[14:04] <lewandowski> usr13: 96.92GB TO be precise.
[14:04] <usr13> lewandowski: Good. Now you can continue, do the Ubuntu install.
[14:04] <lewandowski> usr13: Boot up from CD and open gparted?
[14:05] <usr13> lewandowski: Boot from the CD, it will see the empty space and will ask if you want to install on it, (you will have choice for auto or manual partitioning).
[14:06] <lewandowski> usr13: So, take auto and choose unallocated?
[14:06] <usr13> lewandowski: That is up to you.  Look at the available options and see.
[14:07] <lewandowski> usr13: Thnaks a million sir. I love you and this community! You guys are awesome! Goodbye Windows!
[14:08] <usr13> lewandowski: My preference is to have a separate partition for /home/. In which case you'd set a swap partition of 6G, a partition for / of about 20G and the rest for /home/ (63.?)
[14:09] <lewandowski> usr13: Ok. So, all this is done in installer(my comp is booting up)
[14:09] <usr13> lewandowski: ... and the only reason for doing that is so that if you want to do a fresh install later on, you can just leave /home/ alone and use it in the new install.
[14:09] <Ojoloco> ey guys, how could I know which one is my package? http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/
[14:10] <lewandowski> usr13: OK. My question was this allocation for home and / is done in installer or should i do it in gparted?
[14:10] <usr13> lewandowski: You can let it do the auto partitioning and look at what it does.  It will probably create an extended partition with two logical partitions of 6 & 90G, one for swap and the other for /
[14:11] <lewandowski> usr13: The rest should be done manually then. I will check back.
[14:11] <usr13> lewandowski: .... if you like it that way, just go with it.
[14:11] <gotwig> 49 minutes remaining..
[14:12] <lewandowski> usr13: Like it what way, the 6+90 partitioning?
[14:12] <usr13> lewandowski: Yea, it's up to you.
[14:12] <lewandowski> usr13: Thanks. BTW, What exactly happened to ubuntuforums?
[14:13] <usr13> lewandowski: Even if you have your system files and /home/ files on the same partition, there is always the option for backing up the /home/ directory to a flash memory drive (in the event you do a nother install).
[14:13] <lewandowski> usr13: I keep backing up.
[14:13] <lewandowski> usr13: Thanks.
[14:13] <usr13> go forward
[14:13] <rantic> lewandowski: We got haxed!
[14:14] <lewandowski> rantic: How is that possible? I thought it was secure.
[14:14] <rantic> lewandowski: There is no such thing as unhackable, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/07/ubuntu-forum-hacked-users-advised-to-change-passwords
[14:15] <lewandowski> rantic: I did change my passwords everywhere. Pain in the butt.
[14:15] <lenz> Can somebody clear me up?
[14:15] <lenz> The Ubuntu Edge Phone is actually coming out today?
[14:15] <rantic> lewandowski: The passwords stolen were salted and hashed, they were basically useless to anyone who got them
[14:16] <usr13> !phone | lenz
[14:16] <rantic> lewandowski: It's the 1.8 million e-mail addresses that they're after, sell 1.8 valid e-mail addresses of technical people to a third party for money
[14:16] <wilee-nilee> lenz, We would not know.
[14:16] <wilee-nilee> rantic, That is #ubuntu-offtopic topic this is support
[14:16] <lewandowski> usr13: I have a problem.
[14:17] <lewandowski> usr13: I have booted up with live cd.
[14:17] <lewandowski> usr13: It says no root fs specified.
[14:17] <usr13> lewandowski: The partitioning is yet to be done.  (That's what it is telling you.)
[14:17] <lewandowski> usr13: Sorry. They are logical right?
[14:18] <usr13> lewandowski: You will first create an extended partition, then a couple logical ones, (within the extended partition).
[14:19] <usr13> "the extended partition can be subdivided into multiple logical partitions"
[14:20] <lewandowski> usr13: The thing gives me two options primary and extended. Should I first create a 6GB of swap (in the beginning) and then 90GB for root?
[14:20] <lewandowski> usr13: sorry, primary and logical
[14:20] <usr13> extended
[14:20] <usr13> logical
[14:20] <usr13> "the extended partition can be subdivided into multiple logical partitions"
[14:20] <lewandowski> usr13: Ok. and should i create swap first?
[14:20] <usr13> yes
[14:21] <usr13> and then, (if you like) the rest can be for /
[14:22] <usr13> ... in which case, it will be only two [additional] partitions.  One for swap and one for /
[14:22] <lewandowski> usr13: Swap is done.It shows unknown beside it. Proceed to root(90GB)?
[14:22] <usr13> ( /  is the root directory, all others will be sub-directories within / )
[14:22] <usr13> yes
[14:23] <lewandowski> usr13: EXT4?
[14:23] <usr13> yes
[14:24] <lewandowski> usr13: Success! sda4(ext4) created. Installing.
[14:24] <usr13> The rest is easy. You'll just have some questions to answer, user-name, password... stuff like that.
[14:24] <Braden`> none                    148216    142717         0 100% /var/lib/ureadahead/debugfs   <-- What is that and why is it 100%?
[14:25] <lewandowski> usr13: How to specify where to swap, or will it automatically set it?
[14:25] <usr13> Braden`: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit   #Show us the URL, we'll look and see.
[14:26] <usr13> lewandowski: It will automagically do it.
[14:26] <rantic> Braden`: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[14:26] <lewandowski> usr13: Thanks.
[14:27] <usr13> Braden`: df | pastebinit  #We should see that too.
[14:27] <usr13> lewandowski: NP
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> usr13: df -h   is a bit more readable
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[14:29] <Braden`> http://pastebin.com/wTQ7QKVM     Ubuntu ver is 10.04.4 LTS
[14:32] <rantic> Exactly.
[14:32] <usr13> Braden`: df -h | pastebinit   #Show us that too.
[14:32] <wilee-nilee> Braden`, This a desktop or server?
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: and the output of:  uname -a
[14:33] <rantic> Braden`: Known bug from < Ubuntu 11.04, run sudo mv /etc/init.d/ureadahead.conf /etc/init.d/ureadahead.conf.disabled and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:33] <rantic> http://www.somewhereville.com/?p=1370
[14:33] <ikonia> rantic: ?
[14:35] <h22> guys, is there a wget/curl option to get only the text content (without html tags)?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> h22: there is html to text converters
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> h22: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/42636/how-to-get-text-of-a-page-using-wget-without-html
[14:37] <Mephisto> hello I'd like to build something similar to ubuntu's software center (accessible both from the distroand from the web), can you point me to some resources plz ?
[14:37] <usr13> Braden`: http://serverfault.com/questions/269918/out-of-disk-space-whats-the-source & http://ubuntuguide.net/howto-fix-ureadahead-problem-after-upgrading-to-ubuntu-10-04
[14:37] <ikonia> Mephisto: it's not an open source product
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> h22: http://whathesaid.ca/2008/02/11/how-to-convert-a-websites-content-into-simple-text-files/
[14:37] <h22> ActionParsnip: I already checked that SO page... I think html2text is what I'm looking for
[14:38] <Braden`> I moved the conf
[14:38] <Braden`> I ran svn update and svn upgrade, but it didn't find any updates
[14:38] <Braden`> If I leave ureadahead disabled, can I safely restart the machine?
[14:38] <rantic> Braden`: Yes
[14:39] <Mephisto> ikonia, well thank you very much, I understand this, I thought maybe someone knows what technologies to use to get something similar :)
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: what is the output of: uname -a
[14:39] <kline> j #furnace tech
[14:39] <ikonia> Mephisto: you can use any technology you want,
[14:39] <rantic> Braden`: You ran svn update or apt-get update?
[14:40] <lewandowski> usr13: Why does the installer retrieve files? Is this some third party shit?
[14:40] <ikonia> lewandowski: that language is uncalled for and unwelcome
[14:40] <usr13> lewandowski: I don't know.
[14:40] <lewandowski> ikonia: I am so sorry.
[14:40] <ikonia> lewandowski: not a problem
[14:41] <lewandowski> ikonia: Its just that sometimes i am very irritated by unavailabiltiy of drivers
[14:41] <yebyen> does anyone have a laptop with HDMI that has been disabled by some recent update in raring?
[14:41] <randomaussie> hi alll... anyone have experiance with steam on 64bit ubuntu.... i have manage t instal it but it wont run.... i think i've exhausted my google options.... pointers please
[14:41] <usr13> lewandowski: (I don't know what you mean by retrieve files.)
[14:41] <irssi-mike> yebyen: I have HDMI on a laptop however I don't have anything to plug it ingo
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> randomaussie: run it from terminal, the output may be useful
[14:41] <irssi-mike> *into
[14:41] <yebyen> my HDMI works fine in windows... unless I have already booted into ubuntu once since the last cold poweroff.
[14:41] <rantic> randomaussie: What do you mean it won't run? is there an error?
[14:41] <yebyen> otherwise i have to use the VGA which really sucks at 1080p
[14:42] <lewandowski> usr13: Its doing that since 15 mins
[14:42] <randomaussie> actionparsnip: how do i do that
[14:42] <wilee-nilee> randomaussie, There is a #ubuntu-steam channel as well.
[14:42] <randomaussie> rantic: i can load it.. its tried to run an update and just dissapears
[14:43] <usr13> lewandowski: It will automatically get newer versions of applications it is installing.  (There is an option for that, you prolly didn't see it.)
[14:43] <randomaussie> wilee-nilee: thank you
[14:43] <lewandowski> usr13: Dang. Want to taste ubuntu and cant do it immediately.
[14:44] <usr13> lewandowski: What do  you mean?  (You are now....)
[14:44] <lewandowski> usr13: Pardon.
[14:44] <holstein> lewandowski: what operating system are you used to using? windows? you can always run ubuntu virtualized in virtualbox.. less driver issues that way
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> randomaussie: find what the command you run is in the relevant file in /usr/share/applications
[14:44] <usr13> holstein: He's doing the install now.
[14:45] <usr13> lewandowski: (The liveCD is Ubuntu too, you know....)
[14:45] <holstein> lewandowski: also, you could purchase a machine from a vendor, much like you would windows.. a vendor such as system76 who make sure driver support is there.. or purchase something with known good support, such as most intel hardware
[14:45] <prashant_123456> using ubuntu 13.04 wifi gets disappear after some time any help ?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: which wifi chip?
[14:46] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, do i use lspci ?
[14:46] <usr13> prashant_123456: Open terminal, type:  lspci   Hit enter.
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: sudo lshw -C network       will tell you
[14:47] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, ok
[14:47] <prashant_123456> atheros communication ActionParsnip
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: ok, run:  lspci     what is the line related to the atheros?
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: is it USB wifi?
[14:48] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, built in in hp laptop
[14:48]  * genii ponders USB autosuspend nonsense
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: ok, run:  lspci     what is the line related to the atheros?
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: do you dual boot?
[14:49] <arc__> !pastebin
[14:49] <prashant_123456> yes i have dual boot ActionParsnip
[14:49] <bonii> Hi, I have a HP Elitebook 8570P which has an integrated Intel HD4000 graphics card and an additional AMD Radeon 7670 graphics card. I am running Ubuntu wheezy on it. The machine becomes really hot and lspci only shows the AMD card as the VGA controller which seems to suggest that the integrated card is switched off. In BIOS there does not seem to be any option to enable/disable graphics card, can someone tell me how can I switch on the Intel card and switc
[14:49] <arc__> !pastebin
[14:49] <bonii> Sorry for the long winded question
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: what is the output of the lspci command, what is the atheros line please?
[14:50] <wilee-nilee> bonii, There is no ubuntu wheezy
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> bonii: there is no 'ubuntu wheezy'
[14:50] <prashant_123456> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5900831/
[14:50] <prashant_123456>  ActionParsnip
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> bonii: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: ok, it is an AR9485
[14:50] <bonii> ActionParsnip: Aargh typo, sorry about that, the version is Ununtu 13.04
[14:50] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, yes
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: you can now use this to find guides
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> bonii: can you give the output of the command I gave, pleas
[14:51] <bonii> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.04
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> bonii: thats not what is output
[14:51] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, any solution ?
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: not yet, what did you find?
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: what is the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a    please pastebin the output
[14:52] <bonii> ActionParsnip: It is Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[14:52] <Braden`> Sorry for the delayed response
[14:52] <Braden`> Yes, I can, but its a special distro set from GoDaddy
[14:53] <Braden`> So it naturally doesn't return all of the most recent updates for that particular release :/
[14:53] <bonii> ActionParsnip: The output of /etc/issue
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: is that the OS having issue
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> bonii: are there any bugs reported?
[14:54] <gotwig> 6 minutes remainingg...
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: are you having issues with this 'godaddy distro and not Ubuntu?
[14:54] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5900846/
[14:54] <prashant_123456>  no lsb modules are available
[14:54] <bonii> ActionParsnip: Bugs for ?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: did you find any guides ?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> bonii: your situation based on your make and model system
[14:55] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, no
[14:55] <usr13> ActionParsnip: "Ubuntu Forums is down for maintenance"
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> usr13: indeed
[14:56] <bonii> ActionParsnip: I couldnt find any
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network    do  you see   driver=ath9k
[14:56] <bonii> ActionParsnip: I am not sure if it is a bug at all.
[14:57] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5900853/
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> bonii: of cause it is
[14:59] <usr13> ActionParsnip: prashant_123456: Maybe network-manager needs an update? Is it fully updated?
[14:59] <prashant_123456> nope its not fully updated usr13
[14:59] <usr13> ok...
[15:00] <usr13> prashant_123456: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:00] <lewandowski> Apple Dev. Center also hacked.
[15:00] <ryan_12345> Hello guyts, i'm on Ubuntu 13.04LiveUSB
[15:00] <usr13> ryan_12345: Good job!  How can we help you.
[15:00] <ryan_12345> I need to resize my HDD because ive already go Windows Xp installed
[15:01] <gotwig> UBUNTU EDGE!!!
[15:01] <gotwig> ITS THERE
[15:01] <FloodBot1> gotwig: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:01] <usr13> ryan_12345: There is a privision for that on the LiveCD's installer program.
[15:01] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, is it necessary to add the line to ath9k.conf ?
[15:01] <usr13> ryan_12345: But you can just fire up gparted on your own.
[15:01] <dutchie> hey, i'm having some issues with command-not-found. See http://pastebin.com/H5vuuTkK. I've tried dpkg-reconfiguring and apt-get install --reinstalling both command-not-found and -data, but no luck. Should I just remove those and get it to regenerate them somehow?
[15:02] <ryan_12345> I need to do something to remove NTFS and put GRUB instead can you help me please
[15:02] <ryan_12345> usr13: i  need to do something to remove NTFS and put GRUB instead can you help me please
[15:03] <wilee-nilee> ryan_12345, Nyfs is a partition grub is a bootloader
[15:03] <wilee-nilee> NTFS*
[15:04] <wilee-nilee> ryan_12345, Have you actually installed ubuntu?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> prakriti: can help
[15:04] <ryan_12345> wilee-nilee: nope I currently using LiveUSB
[15:04] <bonii> ActionParsnip: Its a bug in which component ?
[15:05] <usr13> ryan_12345: How many partitions are there now?  (And how large?)
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> bonii: xorg
[15:05] <usr13> wilee-nilee: He is running the LiveCD, wanting to install as we speak.
[15:05] <ryan_12345> usr13: partitions
[15:05] <ryan_12345> usr13:  2 partitions
[15:05] <wilee-nilee> usr13, Yeah I saw that, just checking. ;)
[15:05] <usr13> ryan_12345: How large? and How large?
[15:05] <Guest9795> I tried charging ipad with my ubuntu laptop. It didn't charge. But that's not the issue. now the "You have just inserted a digital audio player"  dialog won't go away. I have tried clicking 'cancel', 'ok', close, alt-f4...Does anyone know what process should I kill for it to go away?
[15:05] <ryan_12345> usr13:  I've got 2 H.D.D
[15:06] <usr13> ryan_12345: Ok, the question is;  Which partition(s) can you do without?  (Which ones are expendable?)
[15:06] <wilee-nilee> Guest9795, That a popup?
[15:07] <Guest9795> Yes. The popup dialog
[15:07] <wilee-nilee> Guest9795, use the alt key and cursor to move it to see if anything is underneath.
[15:07] <bonii> ActionParsnip: Ok thanks
[15:07] <usr13> ryan_12345: If you open a terminal and type   sudo fdisk -l   #...and send us the URL, we can look and see.
[15:08] <ryan_12345> usr13: I got 37.27GIB - File System is NTFS and that's one of of the H.D.D
[15:08] <usr13> ryan_12345: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit   #send url.
[15:08] <ryan_12345> usr13: Nope I have Personsal infomration on these H.D.D
[15:09] <usr13> ryan_12345: That will not be personal information.
[15:09] <wilee-nilee> Guest9795, At times multiple popups can happen and need to be closed in order, just guessing here.
[15:09] <Guest9795> Tried alt+`. Tried moving the windows. http://i.imgur.com/ht6k2fc.png
[15:09] <usr13> ryan_12345: Otherwise, all we can tell you is to delete what ever partitions you want and install on the empty space that results. (The choice is yours.)
[15:10] <wilee-nilee> Guest9795, You look behind the irc screen?
[15:10] <usr13> ryan_12345: (We can only give you specific advise if you give us specific information.)
[15:10] <Guest9795> wilee-nilee: Even when there are popups which need to be closed in order, I think alt-f4 works if it's in focus. Anyway, I have looked behind the irc screen, alt+`, the unity bar, alt-tab...
[15:10] <Guest9795> Those 4 buggers are all that's open
[15:11] <wilee-nilee> Guest9795, You have htop installed?
[15:11] <Guest9795> No. What does it do?
[15:11] <usr13> ryan_12345: See my PM
[15:11] <wilee-nilee> Guest9795, You can kill with it
[15:12] <otak> $ xkill :)
[15:12] <Guest9795> But kill which process?
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> otak  xkill kill the GUI, not the process
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> kills*
[15:12] <wilee-nilee> Guest9795, I'm not sure the name of those for a kill is all. htop will show them
[15:13] <wilee-nilee> probably ipod in htop
[15:13] <Guest9795> Diving into htop output now
[15:17] <wilee-nilee> Guest9795, there is a f3 search
[15:17] <Guest9795> Tried that. Nothing by the name ipad or Ipad or ipod...
[15:19] <ryan_12345> usr17: Hello
[15:19] <Guest9795> I think the zombie notifications should be somehow gfvs mounters children. Looking into gvfs processes
[15:19] <wilee-nilee> Guest9795, You can use the arrow keys to scroll and look for what they may be.
[15:19] <ryan_12345> usr13: Sorry ISP Problems, what was that command again
[15:21] <usr13> ryan_12345: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit   #send url.
[15:21] <usr13> !paste | ryan_12345
[15:22] <ryan_12345> usr13: here s the URL - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5900911/
[15:23] <Guest9795> I give up. ps axu > before.ps. I will logout and see the diff <(ps axu) ~/before.ps
[15:26] <Kerim> Anybody got an idea why indiegogo requires you to fill the second address line, even though it is optional?
[15:26] <usr13> ryan_12345: Ok. Looks like you have a 40G and a 160G drive.  The 40G drive has just one partition.  The 160G drive has a 155G partion and an extended partition with only one 1.5G logical partition which is designated as swap.  You probably will want to shrink the 155G partition down to a smaller size. Right?
[15:27] <usr13> ryan_12345: I would suggest deleting the extened partition and then shrink the 155G partition to something a lot smaller.
[15:28] <ryan_12345> usr13: that's 155GiB is where I want Ubuntu to be installed
[15:28] <usr13> ryan_12345: ... but it depends on how full it is.  If it has about 50 or 60G of data on it, you could shrink it down to about 80G or so?  Maybe?
[15:29] <ryan_12345> usr13: No! stop I want 160GB on this HDD to have Ubuntu how do I do that then?
[15:29] <usr13> ryan_12345: Oh, you can do witout the data on the 160G drive?  Good, just delete all partitions on it and install on the unallocated (free) space.
[15:29] <ryan_12345> usr13: How do I do that then
[15:30] <usr13> ryan_12345: Just delete all partitions on it and install on the unallocated (free) space.  (on sdb)
[15:30] <craigbass1976> I've got to get rid of oracle java 7 and upt 6 on.  When I apt-get purge oracle-java7-installer,  there's no choice to just remove that; apt also wants to install openjdk and I don't want that, because I'm going ot be putting oracle 6 back on and would have to delete it anyway.
[15:30] <craigbass1976> How do I just get rid of oracle java 7?
[15:30] <usr13> ryan_12345: ... You don't have anything on it you need to save?  Right?...
[15:31] <Alegreya> arch linux is more popular that ubuntu now
[15:31] <ryan_12345> usr13: I don't want to lose WINDOWS XP MIND!!!
[15:31] <usr13> ryan_12345: If you do, get out a thumb drive or some other type of USB drive and transfer files now.
[15:31] <ryan_12345> usr13: your lieing
[15:32] <causasui> you're a retarded
[15:32] <Alegreya> wndows xp is now kde
[15:32] <ryan_12345> usr13: I can just delete then NTFS on the 40GiB H.D.D
[15:32] <usr13> ryan_12345: Ok. Well then the question is;  Where is your Windows XP install?  (Is it on the 40G drive?)  (Do you have some stuff for XP on the 160G drive?, and if so, how much?)
[15:33] <usr13> ryan_12345: You can delete the partition on the 40G drive if you are not using it for XP.  (Again, where is XP installed?)
[15:33] <ryan_12345> usr13: the 160GiB HDD is blank and the 40GiB is the one with Windows XP on it
[15:33] <usr13> ryan_12345: Are you sure?
[15:33] <ryan_12345> usr13: and by the way i'm not deleting Windows XP
[15:33] <ryan_12345> usr13: Yes
[15:33] <usr13> ryan_12345: If you are not sure, mount the drives and see what is on them.
[15:34] <usr13> ryan_12345: They may be mounted already.    Open a terminal and type mount and hit enter to see if they are.
[15:34] <ryan_12345> usr13: I'm sure that the 40GiB Hdd as Window s on it and the 160GiB is blank
[15:35] <ryan_12345> usr13: Right, i've opened Gparted
[15:35] <R0b0t1> Hello. How do I change DNS in 12.04 LTS?
[15:35] <usr13> ryan_12345: Ok if you are sure, then just delete the partitions on the 160G drive and install on the available free space.
[15:35] <usr13> R0b0t1: edit /etc/resolv.conf
[15:35] <R0b0t1> I can't really search for anything because, well, I am trying to set the DNS...
[15:35] <wilee-nilee> ryan_12345, For what it worth we all watch what is going on if you were being misled you would be informed.
[15:35] <usr13> R0b0t1: nameserver 8.8.8.8
[15:35] <R0b0t1> usr13: /etc/resolv.conf is autogenerated
[15:35] <R0b0t1> it resets after a few minutes
[15:36] <usr13> R0b0t1: Edit your router's config
[15:36] <ryan_12345> usr13: okay what's next then
[15:36] <usr13> ryan_12345: create new partions
[15:37] <ryan_12345> usr13: as what a extened
[15:37] <R0b0t1> usr13: I can't.
[15:38] <DaveC_> Having issues with mounting ubuntu volume from other computers. (samba)
[15:38] <usr13> ryan_12345: You need at least 2 partitions, one for swap and another for the root partition. (At minimum.)
[15:38] <usr13> ryan_12345: How much RAM do you have?
[15:39] <ryan_12345> usr13: 1.50GB
[15:39] <ryan_12345> usr13: so how do I create a partitions
[15:39] <usr13> In gparted
[15:39] <ryan_12345> usr13: then what, your not helpping
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> ryan_12345  gparted means gnome partition editor
[15:40] <usr13> You can create extended partition and logical partitions within that one.
[15:40] <ryan_12345> usr13: olay then what I've done that
[15:41] <usr13> ryan_12345: Create a logical partition for swap, 4G.  Create a logical partition for /  30G  Create a third partition for /home/  and let it be just the rest of the drive.
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> ryan_12345  explore gparted a bit and see how it works and what it does, it's best way to learn and we all did it that way
[15:41] <ryan_12345> MonkeyDust: Don't confuse me now I've created partitioins
[15:42] <usr13> ryan_12345: (The above is just a suggestion, do it as you see fit.)  (As I said before, you only need 2 partitions, one for swap and one for / )
[15:42] <ryan_12345> usr13: SLOW DOWN, i'm slow okay
[15:43] <usr13> ryan_12345: Take your time.
[15:43] <R0b0t1> Is there a way to change DNS locally on 12.04 LTS? I worked around the autogen'd /etc/resolv.conf by keeping it open in an editor, but... yeah...
[15:43] <usr13> R0b0t1: I just told you.
[15:43] <Prostetnic> hi
[15:43] <usr13> R0b0t1: Change the line that starts with   nameserver (change the IP)
[15:44] <R0b0t1> usr13: I do that. /etc/resolv.conf will reset itself after a few minutes.
[15:44] <usr13> R0b0t1: Or, you can use the network manager.
[15:44] <R0b0t1> (I thought I mentioned that)
[15:44] <varunendra> R0b0t1, either set the DNS in NM itself, or add the desired DNS in /etc/resolvconf/resolvconf.d/base file
[15:44] <ryan_12345> usr13: right I've created two partitions one is exteneded and the 2nd one is ext2
[15:44] <usr13> What sizes?
[15:45] <Prostetnic> Can anyone tell me how I would setup persistence on the liveUSB beyond: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence#Setting_Up_Your_USB_Stick  ???
[15:45] <R0b0t1> varunendra: How do I do that in NM?
[15:45] <R0b0t1> varunendra: Must it be per-connection?
[15:45] <varunendra> R0b0t1, In NM -- > IPv4 tab > Mode "Automatic (DHCP) address only"
[15:45] <klrr> ubuntu edge LOL
[15:45] <usr13> ryan_12345: Wait.... You nave an extended partition with how many logical ones within that extended partition?)
[15:45] <varunendra> R0b0t1, I think so.
[15:45] <klrr> ubuntu phone is a bit fail
[15:46] <usr13> ryan_12345: The extended partition can be subdivided into multiple logical partitions
[15:46] <wilee-nilee> !ot > klaas
[15:46] <werxxx> I want to mount flash drive
[15:46] <usr13> ryan_12345: Tell us what you've done so far.
[15:46] <wilee-nilee> !ot | klrr
[15:46] <wilee-nilee> sorry klaas
[15:46] <czikson> hi does some one know a program that can format or delete a protected partition on a pen drive?
[15:46] <wilee-nilee> czikson, Protected?
[15:47] <usr13> ryan_12345: Tell us what sizes the partition(s) are.
[15:47] <czikson> write only protected
[15:47] <werxxx> Some body
[15:47] <R0b0t1> varunendra: I am unable to write to /etc/resolvconf/resolvconf.d/base, I assume it does not exist?
[15:47] <czikson> its 8 gigs
[15:47] <R0b0t1> Unable to write as root.
[15:47] <wilee-nilee> czikson, I would think gparted would.
[15:47] <varunendra> R0b0t1, the Method --> "Automatic (DHCP) addresses only" will let you edit the DNS field. And it is indeed per connection (just confirmed)
[15:47] <varunendra> R0b0t1, my mistake
[15:47] <usr13> R0b0t1: Is this a server or a Desktop PC?
[15:47] <ryan_12345> usr13: size on extended is 149.05GiB
[15:47] <czikson> gparted dosnt work at all dd too
[15:47] <werxxx> How I can to mount pen
[15:47] <varunendra> R0b0t1, it was /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[15:48] <ryan_12345> usr13: and ext2 is - 159.05GiB
[15:48] <wilee-nilee> czikson, You unmount it in gparted?
[15:48] <usr13> ryan_12345: Ok. Tell me more.
[15:48] <czikson> yes and then try to delete it but it seys its write only
[15:48] <ryan_12345> usr13: that's all
[15:48] <R0b0t1> varunendra: Ah, okay. The missing periods looked suspicious...
[15:48] <varunendra> :D
[15:48] <usr13> ryan_12345: You need two partitions.  One for swap and one for the system files.
[15:48] <reisio> czikson: ask #hardware about it
[15:48] <werxxx> Hey
[15:48] <wilee-nilee> czardoz, Is their a read only switch on it?
[15:48] <netlar> Is there a way to show the power usage?
[15:48] <czikson> no switch
[15:49] <zipy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQLe3iIMN7k <-- damn ubuntu edge *gimmedatnow*
[15:49] <werxxx> Help me
[15:49] <wilee-nilee> czardoz, yeah #hardware it seems
[15:49] <klrr> zipy: it's so ugly i agree
[15:49] <zipy> ugly?
[15:49] <wilee-nilee> czikson, heh^^^
[15:49] <klrr> yeah i agreed with you
[15:49] <werxxx> I need help
[15:49] <ryan_12345> usr13: then tell me how to do it then please, Im not a professional of Linux OS, your just telling me to click and partition. I don't understand
[15:49] <klrr> zipy: i hope they remake it with more apple feel
[15:49] <zipy> lol
[15:49] <zipy> ofc :D
[15:50] <usr13> ryan_12345: If you have just one big 149.05G partition, delete it.  Create two logical partitions (within the extended partition).  One small one for swap, and another large one for / (system files).  At least two logical partitions.
[15:50] <czikson> ok thx i'll ask
[15:50] <klrr> yes, that ugly guy in the video should get same beard as steve jobs had
[15:50] <zipy> put in the apple logo and sell it as iphone 6 :D
[15:50] <wilee-nilee> zipy, Don't be a pinhead
[15:50] <klrr> zipy: who is the guy in the video, is it some kind of hipster?
[15:50] <zipy> i think its a bot
[15:51] <ryan_12345> usr13: I'm on Create a new partition
[15:51] <usr13> ryan_12345: If that 149.05G partition is an extended partition, then just create two logical partitions within it, one small one for swap (maybe 4G) and the rest for /
[15:51] <werxxx> I'm busy
[15:51] <usr13> ryan_12345: Ok create a small one for swap.
[15:51] <ryan_12345> usr13: your doing it again, your speaking Jargon
[15:51] <klrr> ubuntu 13.10 when does it come?
[15:51] <coventry> On a box I recently downgraded from 13.04 to 12.04, video played with vlc in a virtualbox now runs very choppily.  Same video runs fine on the box itself.  I get the problem with ubuntu 12.04 virtualbox, and Oracle virtualbox 4.1 and 4.2.  Is there a fix for this?
[15:51] <klrr> will it ship with mirshit?
[15:51] <ryan_12345> usr13: tell me what to tell and click
[15:52] <usr13> ryan_12345: I can't help it.  That is the only way  to explaine it. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning
[15:52] <zipy> 4gb ram phone is nice
[15:52] <gr3c0> hello
[15:52] <zipy> u can run vms on it x)
[15:52] <gr3c0> i need some help
[15:52] <ryan_12345> wilee-nilee: Help me please usr13 is not helping me
[15:52] <usr13> ryan_12345: Create new partition.  Label it swap. Make the size 4G.
[15:52] <gr3c0> i am wondering if anyone is familair with the new uefi
[15:53] <usr13> ryan_12345: Create new partition for /  ext4
[15:53] <ryan_12345> usr13: what 4 gb in mb
[15:53] <gr3c0> i have windows 8 preinstalled so i have the stupid new bios
[15:53] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | gr3c0
[15:53] <usr13> 4000
[15:53] <geri> hi how can i fix this issue? kernel headers for the target kernel version could not be found and you did not specify other valid kernel headers to use
[15:54] <geri> when running module-assistant
[15:54] <ryan_12345> usr13: would that go into @New Size
[15:54] <gr3c0> i disabled secure boot and installed windows 7 and then another windows 8 pro
[15:54] <wilee-nilee> gr3c0, You can ask for help, but not many if us are up on uefi, as the manufacturers tweak there own versions.
[15:54] <werxxx> I go away
[15:54] <genii> geri: install linux-headers-generic
[15:54] <usr13> ryan_12345: I'm on the phone.....
[15:54] <Ampelbein> geri: install "linux-header-generic", that should pull the correct header package.
[15:55] <Shira> hello i have a biig question about encryption in ubuntu 13.04
[15:55] <usr13> ryan_12345: One of the others can help you....
[15:55] <Ampelbein> *linux-headers-generic
[15:55] <ryan_12345> usr13:  Um.....okay lol :-p
[15:55] <wilee-nilee> Shira, and?
[15:55] <gr3c0> i think i bypassed efi already
[15:55] <Shira> i have forgotten to do it in the installation from ubuntu, how can i do it after a install? i have only 1 hhd with 1 partition and a older swap partition
[15:55] <wilee-nilee> gr3c0, Have you looked at the link?
[15:56] <ikonia> Shira: do you REALLY need to encypt
[15:56] <gr3c0> question is with windows bootloader if i install ubuntu will it come up on windows bootloader
[15:56] <redtape|renegade> Where is the LIVE stream of Mark Shuttleworth being sent from for #oscon 2013 ?
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> Shira: do you use autologin?
[15:56] <reeed> guys. somethings going on with my Kubuntu right NOW -- both CPUs at 100%, top says 'nepomukservices', 'get-distro-upgr', 'virtuoso-t' are active
[15:56] <gr3c0> i am unfamilair with grub
[15:56] <Shira> i dont use autologin and yes i need a encryption
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> redtape|renegade: please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic    this is support
[15:56] <redtape|renegade> k
[15:56] <ikonia> Shira: really you have data that's "that" secure you need to encypt your disk and all the disks that come with it
[15:56] <reeed> what's going on? I didn't authorize any software update
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> Shira: is it a brand new install?
[15:57] <wilee-nilee> gr3c0, you will have a grub menu I believe, you might wait till the ubuntu forums is up for best help, there is an excellent thread for covering most possibilities.
[15:57] <ryan_12345> ActionParsnip: Will you help me
[15:57] <Shira> its fresh from yesterday but i have already install tools, also changed to gnome 3.8 etc
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> ryan_12345: what is the issue
[15:58] <wilee-nilee> Shira, 3.8 is a ppa and no supported and a bit problematic.
[15:58] <wilee-nilee> not*
[15:58] <ryan_12345> ActionParsnip: well usr13 told me to create partitions because I've got Windows Xp installed on my one of my H.D.D
[15:59] <ryan_12345> ActionParsnip: one partition is for swap with space of 4GiB
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> ryan_12345: thats fine, resize ntfs then install to the freed space
[15:59] <Shira> 3.8 works great for me, atm i have no bugs found
[15:59] <ikonia> Shira: this is unwise
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> Shira: its support is smaller
[15:59] <dutchie> hey, i'm having some issues with command-not-found. See http://pastebin.com/H5vuuTkK. I've tried dpkg-reconfiguring and apt-get install --reinstalling both command-not-found and -data, but no luck. Should I just remove those and get it to regenerate them somehow?
[15:59] <ikonia> Shira: if you have data that is that important you need to encypt it you should not be using unstable software
[15:59] <usr13> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5900911/  (He has XP installed on the 40G drive sda)
[15:59] <ryan_12345> ActionParsnip: How do I do then, if you understand what I mean it all Jargon, could you guide me what to do
[16:00] <klrr> ubuntu penis
[16:00] <ryan_12345> usr13: and thanks for helping order members to help me
[16:00] <usr13> ActionParsnip: He wants to use the entire 160G drive for Ubuntu.
[16:00] <Shira> gnome 3.8 is unstable?
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> ryan_12345: are you wanting to get rid of XP or dual boot?
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> Shira: its not supported here as its not from the Ubuntu repos. Its a 3rd party source
[16:01] <ryan_12345> ActionParsnip: I want to keep Windows XP so Dual-boot
[16:02] <Shira> yes i dont want support for gnome i want support for the ubuntu encryption
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> ryan_12345: then chkdsk your NTFS as well as defrag it
[16:02] <ikonia> Shira: yes, but you're missing the point of what I'm saying
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> Shira: i'm looking for guides, you'll need to do it from liveCD
[16:03] <gr3c0> question is with windows bootloader if i install ubuntu will it come up on windows bootloader
[16:03] <ikonia> Shira: if you are using important data that is that importnat you need encyption, using unstable software can cause problems with it
[16:03] <ikonia> Shira: more so as later versions of the software can pull in later versions of the dependencies
[16:03] <gr3c0> i am wondering if my windows 7 and 8 and 8 pro will boot off of grub bootloader
[16:03] <ikonia> gr3c0: should do
[16:03] <ryan_12345> ActionParsnip: what do you mean by that
[16:04] <wilee-nilee> Shira, read the warning, I found it to be a problem in raring. https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3-staging
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> Shira: you may have to wait while the forums come back up after the password fiasco
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> ryan_12345: in Windows, do a defrag..you know how to defrag in WIndows right?
[16:04] <Shira> ikonia i know what you mean but i want a normal aes encryption for the complete hdd not only the system, same as my truecrypt hdd encryption on windows before.
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> ryan_12345: and check the disk for errors too, use the full check so that you know the file system is 100% healthy
[16:05] <ryan_12345> ActionParsnip: I've done all that like 4 hrs ago
[16:06] <usr13> ryan_12345: Create a [logical] partition for swap, 4G.  Create a [logical] partition for /  30G  Create a third partition for /home/  and let it be just the rest of the drive."  "These are just suggestions do it as you please but you need at least one for swap and one or two more for system files and /home/.   I suggest 3 partitions, but 2 is ok.  Creating an extended partition will allow as many as you want, (logical partitions are created within an extended 
[16:06] <gr3c0> i am working off of an efi system with secure boot disable and csm enabled i had to do that to enable dual boot , i installed win 7 and win8 pro on different parition and now i want to add ubuntu
[16:06] <Shira> ActionParsnip i know what you mean via livecd but i have think its also a methode before you have ubuntu installed
[16:06] <anthonycraigs> hello there
[16:06] <gr3c0> installing unbuntu will replace windows boot loader ?
[16:07] <Shira> yes it replace
[16:07] <anthonycraigs> i wanted to know if the new haswell processors are well supported in ubuntu or not?
[16:07] <ikonia> Shira: yes, and that's running from a disk that is not in use
[16:07] <usr13> ActionParsnip: The above is what I've already advised, I just put it into one post for us to see all at one time.
[16:07] <ikonia> anthonycraigs: should be fin e
[16:07] <ikonia> fine
[16:07] <anthonycraigs> specifically the intel graphics chipset
[16:07] <reisio> gr3c0: by default, but not necessarily
[16:07] <ikonia> anthonycraigs: should be fine
[16:07] <anthonycraigs> HD 5000
[16:07] <Shira> ikonia, give it a way to encrypt the complet hd after my setup or i need to install ubuntu new?
[16:08] <ikonia> Shira: you'll need to do it from livecd so your disks are not in use
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> Shira: found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/announce.html?t=420182&highlight=Howto+encrypt+harddrive   but again the forums are down
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> Shira: its not going to be an easy task
[16:08] <ryan_12345> <So what is the best thing to dio then
[16:08] <gr3c0> i made an usb bootable with unbuntu ready to go live
[16:09] <usr13> ryan_12345: So, do you have your partitions done created?  If so, you are ready to install.
[16:09] <gr3c0> yes i shrunk 100 gb off my main os
[16:09] <ryan_12345> usr13: help me please this is all Jargon
[16:09] <gr3c0> do i have to format it before?
[16:09] <varunendra> anthonycraigs, you may get some answers on #hardware
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> gr3c0: let the ubuntu installer format it
[16:10] <gr3c0> kk
[16:10] <Shira> ActionParsnip and ikonia, i have a howto with a livecd but i dont know, is this methode before i have installed ubuntu or also after i have installed ubuntu??
[16:10] <usr13> ryan_12345: So, do you have your partitions created?
[16:10] <gr3c0> i have a universal question
[16:10] <Shira> thats my point
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Shira: its hard to find guides when the forms are down, there may be other guide but all I find is the forums
[16:10] <ryan_12345> usr13: no but can you help me where do I type in 400mib into
[16:10] <Shira> i have find it on the ubuntuwiki
[16:10] <gr3c0> i bought a 2tb 3.5in hdd 7200rpm and enclosed it in 3.0 external hub
[16:10] <Shira> *found
[16:11] <gr3c0> is is possible to installed os's on this drive and boot them?
[16:11] <gr3c0> therotically 3.0  will make the connection as fast as sata
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> gr3c0: if your BIOS can boot USB, sure
[16:12] <Shira> i will check it out
[16:12] <gr3c0> i tried so many times and coundlt get ti to boot
[16:12] <gr3c0> rtand it does support
[16:12] <gr3c0> but its not bios
[16:12] <gr3c0> its efi
[16:12] <usr13> ryan_12345: Set the size of the partitions as I told you, small, 4G or so for swap, larger, 30G or so for /home/  (type=ext4)  and the rest for / (type=ext4).
[16:13] <ryan_12345> usr13: jargon AGAIN!!! SLOW THE HELL DOWN
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> gr3c0: then I suggest you ask in ##hardware to see how you can make your hardware boot the storage
[16:13] <usr13> ryan_12345: I said that backwards... sorry
[16:13] <gr3c0> ok
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> gr3c0: or conatct the motherboard manufacturers, or post on their forum
[16:14] <usr13> ryan_12345: Set the size of the partitions as I told you, small, 4G or so for swap, larger, 30G or so for /  (type=ext4)  and the rest for /home/ (type=ext4).
[16:14] <gr3c0> thanks guys
[16:14] <wilee-nilee> gr3c0, Honestly this is the lat place for uefi support I would go, the ubuntu forums has a specific mod who is best at it, wait till they are on line.
[16:14] <ryan_12345> usr13: right I've got Gparted open right
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> ryan_12345: its hardly jargon, you undersatd Gb is a gigabtyte, right>
[16:14] <gr3c0> i hate this efi crap
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> ryan_12345: and what a partition is?
[16:14] <usr13> ryan_12345: 1G=1000M
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> gr3c0: seems like a headache
[16:15] <gr3c0> i spent 12 hr on phone with microsoft, asus, and geek squad
[16:15] <gr3c0> lol
[16:15] <varunendra> gr3c0, I can boot from my USB3 port, but have only tried USB 2 flash drives so far (and my laptop does support efi, although it's disabled)
[16:15] <gr3c0> they were clueless
[16:15] <gr3c0> secure boot is efi right?
[16:15] <usr13> ryan_12345: G=Gigabyte  M=Magabyte
[16:16] <ryan_12345> usr13: where do I type in 4000mib for the "swap" partition
[16:16] <varunendra> gr3c0, no, secure boot is a different thing, although it works on top of EFI.
[16:16] <gr3c0> ok
[16:16] <ryan_12345> usr13: which box the
[16:16] <gr3c0> i disabled secure boot with allowed me to have mulitle version of windows
[16:17] <ryan_12345> usr13: Free space preceding(Mib)
[16:17] <gr3c0> but now i want this linux
[16:17] <gr3c0> i gave up trying to install to usb hard drive
[16:17] <gr3c0> windows doesnt allow usb installtion
[16:17] <usr13> ryan_12345:  The partition size. Is it already created?  If it is too small or too large, edit it and change the size.
[16:18] <varunendra> gr3c0, have you read the wiki page about UEFI installation thoroughly? It's not difficult if you understand the basics.
[16:18] <gr3c0> i tried installing and cloning but nothing there either
[16:18] <gr3c0> i even migrated the os
[16:18] <gr3c0> and still nothing
[16:18] <usr13> ryan_12345: if you are resizing it, "New size"
[16:18] <ryan_12345> usr13: nope I don't know what to do do I where onearth do I type in 4000mib
[16:18] <gr3c0> and the external had the efi system partition
[16:19] <gr3c0> i read everything on it
[16:19] <gr3c0> does it make a difference if it s pirated versions?
[16:19] <varunendra> gr3c0, that kind of discussion is not allowed I'm afraid ;)
[16:20] <gr3c0> haha word
[16:20] <usr13> ryan_12345: Make the swap partition 4G (4000 MiB)
[16:20] <gr3c0> im assume tho it should be a problem
[16:20] <gr3c0> shouldnt*
[16:20] <Superstring> Question, in the rc-sysinit.conf, there is a DEFAULT_RUNLEVEL environment variable and below that there is another RUNLEVEL=
[16:20] <Superstring> What ist he purpose of the second RUNLEVEL?
[16:20] <gr3c0> i had the sweest laptop too but the hd came with crap 750gb 5400rpm
[16:20] <gr3c0> asus g46vw
[16:21] <ryan_12345> usr13: and what is the file system
[16:21] <gr3c0> 2gb gtx 660m 8gb ram, i5 3230
[16:21] <usr13> ryan_12345: If you just want to use two partitions, (simple/easy), make the second partition (type=ext4), the rest of the drive.
[16:21] <gr3c0> but crap hdd and i have 3hr dissemble to replace
[16:21] <usr13> ryan_12345: The file system type for swap is swap.  For the other(s)  ext4
[16:21] <Aaruni> is there any way to save all the currently installed application and updates for a backup ? 12.04 64bit
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> gr3c0: switchable GPU too
[16:22] <ryan_12345> usr13: is it linux -swap
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> gr3c0: you'll need bumblebee for that
[16:22] <wilee-nilee> Aaruni, dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages
[16:22] <varunendra> Aaruni, if you haven't cleared the cache, then there is - AptOnCD
[16:23] <wilee-nilee> Aaruni, Mines just a install list
[16:23] <Aaruni> varunendra: I don't know if I have cleared the cache
[16:23] <usr13> ryan_12345: Yes.  Linux-Swap (the small one).
[16:23] <gr3c0> bumblebee for the vid card?
[16:23] <Aaruni> wilee-nilee: not just install list, but the downloaded packages too.
[16:23] <wilee-nilee> I figured as such
[16:23] <Aaruni> don't want to download them again, in case I need to format my drive tomorrow
[16:23] <varunendra> Aaruni, if you don't know, then you haven't.
[16:24] <varunendra> Aaruni, you can browse to /var/cache/apt/archives to see if the downloaded packages are still there.
[16:24] <ryan_12345> usr13: and what do I create that as a Primary partition or a Extended partition
[16:24] <usr13> ryan_12345: And then just one more, (the rest of the drive) type=ext4
[16:24] <usr13> ryan_12345: Primary
[16:24] <ryan_12345> usr13: and what about the label
[16:24] <Aaruni> varunendra: ok, there are about 900 packages there
[16:25] <usr13> ryan_12345: On which partition?
[16:25] <ryan_12345> usr13: Linux-Swap
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Aaruni: its fun to have a local package server if you have multiple PCs
[16:25] <varunendra> Aaruni, you can just copy the /var/cache/apt directory as a backup, but it'll take extra efforts to make them recognised as a software source. aptoncd makes it easy.
[16:25] <usr13> ryan_12345: On the first one, (the small one, swap).
[16:25] <usr13> ryan_12345: Yes, Linux-Swap
[16:25] <Aaruni> varunendra: thanks.
[16:26] <ryan_12345> usr13: so the first partition is called swap
[16:26] <varunendra> Aaruni, what ActionParsnip suggested is an even advanced option, for networks. :)
[16:26] <Ahti333> i have some packages kept back during apt-get upgrade, amongst them is linux-image-generic, should i expect any trouble when apt-get dist-upgrading?
[16:26] <wilee-nilee> Ahti333, Thats the command used
[16:27] <Aaruni> varunendra, ActionParsnip : not looking for networks. its just that I may need to format my drive, and don't want to waste bandwidth downloading the packages again. I just downloaded the whole thing yesterday
[16:27] <usr13> ryan_12345: Yes
[16:27] <varunendra> Aaruni, if you install aptoncd (sudo apt-get install aptoncd), make sure to also install 'hal' package (sudo apt-get install hal).
[16:27] <ryan_12345> usr13: now what about the second partition is that a primary or a exteneded partition
[16:27] <usr13> ryan_12345: Primary
[16:27] <ryan_12345> usr13: and the file system for the second partition
[16:27] <usr13> ext4
[16:28] <Ahti333> wilee-nilee i know ;) what i am not sure about is wether upgrading the kernel on a production server is a thing that i should just do without making tons of backups etc beforehand
[16:28] <Aaruni> varunendra: what's hal ?
[16:28] <Ahti333> ^^
[16:28] <varunendra> Aaruni, be informed that this backup will only work for the same architecture, same version of Ubuntu.
[16:28] <Aaruni> varunendra: planning to install the same thing. 12.04 64bit
[16:28] <ryan_12345> usr13: and the label for the second partition
[16:28] <varunendra> Aaruni, it is just a supporting package, without which the "Restore" button in its gui doesn't work.
[16:28] <wilee-nilee> Ahti333, We don't know what you have there, backups are always a good thing.
[16:28] <Aaruni> varunendra: ok.
[16:29] <Max-Powerz> quick Q/A
[16:29] <Max-Powerz> does ubunti still have that silly side bar ?
[16:29] <Aaruni> Max-Powerz: you mean the unity launcher ?
[16:29] <Max-Powerz> yup
[16:30] <wilee-nilee> Max-Powerz, thats the unity desktop, there are many others.
[16:30] <pilsa> hi ... will the new version of wine (1.6) also go into the 12.04 repositories (probaby not)?
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> Max-Powerz  unity has that 'silly' side bar, if you don't like it, don't use it
[16:30] <ryan_12345> usr13: shall I just leave the second partition label blank
[16:30] <holstein> Max-Powerz: the unity UI sidebar? unity has that.. ubuntu uses unity.. main ubuntu.. other official version of ubuntu dont have unity or a sidebar
[16:30] <Aaruni> its there on 12.04, not sure about never releases. Max-Powerz, try using gnome or something, if you didn't like unity
[16:30] <Ahti333> wilee-nilee well, nothing more than apache php mysql and ruby (on rails), no fancy things that do any kernel things like vms do
[16:30] <Ryan_win> silly question.. when using Unity.. is there a way to browse all of my applications as opposed to just searching with dash?
[16:30] <bray9082_> does anyone know if the $600 ubuntu edge phone expires tomorrow or not
[16:30] <wilee-nilee> Ahti333, YOu might check with #ubuntu-server
[16:31] <Aaruni> Ryan_win: in dash, select applications, and then click on all installed
[16:31] <Ahti333> wilee-nilee thanks :0
[16:31] <Ahti333> * :)
[16:31] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[16:31] <bray9082_> the kickstarter for the edge phone that is
[16:31] <Ryan_win> Aaruni thanks :D
[16:31] <Aaruni> Ryan_win: no prob
[16:31] <Aaruni> :)
[16:31] <ryan_12345> usr13: hello.....you there
[16:31] <bray9082_> or doe sit have the same 31 days like the rest of the project
[16:32] <usr13> ryan_12345: I was on the phone.  Set it to ext4  (partition type)  and Use for   /
[16:33] <ryan_12345> usr13: there is the 2 partition created shall I click to tick?
[16:33] <usr13> ryan_12345: Mount point is /
[16:33] <usr13> ryan_12345: What size are they?
[16:33] <usr13> ryan_12345: Does it show it in GiB ?
[16:34] <Shira> i have a little last question
[16:34] <ryan_12345> usr13: for linux-swap is 3.91GiB and for ext4 is 145.14GiB
[16:34] <sercon01> helo
[16:34] <Shira> is the encryption from the ubuntu setup AES?
[16:34] <ryan_12345> usr13: and yes it does
[16:34] <usr13> ryan_12345: And mount point for the ext4 one is /  Right?
[16:34] <praka> hello
[16:35] <ryan_12345> usr13: yes, shall I tick then
[16:35] <Superstring> In rc-sysinit.conf, there is a DEFAULT_RUNLEVEL and a RUNLEVEL.  What is the purpose of the second RUNLEVEL?
[16:35] <usr13> ryan_12345: If so, you are done. Install Now.....
[16:36] <usr13> ryan_12345: Install Now
[16:36] <ryan_12345> usr13: do I click the tick in Gparted or not
[16:37] <usr13> ryan_12345: "tick"
[16:37] <usr13> ?
[16:37] <usr13> ryan_12345: See my PM.
[16:37] <usr13> ryan_12345: What is the "tick"?
[16:38] <ryan_12345> usr13: see my PM
[16:42] <vedic> Hey guys, I am running on 12.04 64bit. I want to install Apache 2.4.x which is the latest but 12.04 LTS repository provides 2.2.x version. In case apache releases security fix, how would I update apache if I install apache 2.4.x from source (as repository only provides 2.2.x). Is there ready package for Ubuntu for apache 2.4.x?
[16:43] <usr13> vedic: You're on your own if you do not use the package manager.
[16:43] <usr13> vedic: Why not just use the version from the repository?
[16:43] <vedic> usr13: the httpd guys say that there is 2.4 package and installing that would not require recompilation. But I don't know where to find that?
[16:43] <Myrik> have russians
[16:43] <Myrik> ?
[16:44] <vedic> usr13: 2.4.x is recommeded for event-mpm model for apache. Also more optimized
[16:47] <usr13> vedic: Ok. Go for it then.....
[16:48] <vedic> usr13: But where is that package located? I could not find
[16:48] <usr13> http://httpd.apache.org/download.cgi#apache24
[16:52] <countz> what's the deal with the mouse & touch pad settings? I have a touchpad on my laptop, and also a mouse, I can't set the mouse speed?!
[16:52] <countz> only the touchpad speed
[16:53] <holstein> countz: everything is always configurable. but it might be more hassle than you are willing to go through
[16:53] <bhalash> countz: xset
[16:53] <countz> argh
[16:53] <countz> what about those popups? is there something that makes them clickable?
[16:53] <bhalash> countz: xset allows you to finely control mouse sensitivity and speed
[16:54] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/135122/reduce-the-mouse-sensitivity
[16:54] <countz> this is so 2005 stuff
[16:54] <bhalash> countz: Example: xset m 3 5 - sensitivity 3 and speed 5. Etc. Tweak as needed and add the line to the relevant startup file
[16:54] <countz> :-)
[16:54] <holstein> countz: sure.. be sure you let the mouse manufacturer know the issues you are having
[16:54] <countz> how is this related to the mouse manufacturer?
[16:55] <countz> this is a preferences thing
[16:55] <holstein> countz: sure.. but the mouse didnt come with linux support, did it?
[16:55] <countz> ubuntu is supposed to see I have a mouse, and should let me set mouse sensitivity, double-click speed, etc.
[16:55] <countz> this is a generic mouse...
[16:56] <countz> how do I hide quits/joins/parts in empathy?
[16:56] <holstein> countz: ubuntu is seeing you have a mouse, and supplying a driver from the kernel automatically.. nothing downloaded from anywhere to supply that
[16:56] <countz> yes I know
[16:56] <xangua> countz: you don't, better use a dedicated irc program
[16:56] <bhalash> https://www.google.com/search?q=hide+irc+join+parts+empathy
[16:56] <countz> but ubuntu preferences should provide for that
[16:57] <holstein> countz: you know where to file a wishlist bug?
[16:57] <holstein> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu/Wishlist might help with that
[16:58] <countz> thanks, will file one if one does not already exist
[16:58] <SolarisBoy> countz: nothing in All Settings > Mount and Touchpad?
[16:58] <holstein> countz: also, let the mouse manufacturer know, so they may supply linux tools with the device, as they do for other OS's
[16:58] <countz> SolarisBoy: nope, surprisingly... you'd think, right/
[16:58] <SolarisBoy> yes - strange
[16:58] <countz> holstein: I don't want some bloatware from some manufacturer, who might hire not so professional linux app developers and introduce crashes..
[16:59] <countz> just for mounse sensitivity
[16:59] <countz> mouse
[16:59] <holstein> countz: then, xset is the tool.. enjoy!
[16:59] <countz> yep
[16:59] <countz> thanks
[16:59] <countz> now about those notifications on the top right... any way to modify their behavior?
[16:59] <SolarisBoy> the indicator(s) countz ?
[17:00] <holstein> countz: http://askubuntu.com/questions/185078/is-it-possible-to-temporarily-disable-notifications
[17:00] <countz> yes
[17:00] <countz> I want them to be clickable
[17:00] <holstein> there are other nofification systems with little "x"'s to close them, if you prefer
[17:01] <countz> (and take me to the app that prompted them)
[17:01] <countz> that would be great, if I can just replace them
[17:02] <trism> countz: clickable notifications require a different notification daemon...I think notification-daemon specifically supports that, but I haven't used it in a while
[17:02] <countz> ok i'll be right back from xchat... this irc client is impossible with #ubuntu, too many joins/parts/quits
[17:03] <countz> interesting
[17:04] <countz> installed it
[17:04] <countz> br
[17:04] <countz> brb
[17:08] <skaag> back
[17:08] <skaag> <-- CountZ
[17:11] <Skaag> ok so how do I use notification-daemon?
[17:12] <trism> Skaag: you'll need to remove notify-osd because dbus autostarts that in unity, you'll also need to start it manually in unity since the /etc/xdg/autostart script only starts in gnome fallback
[17:13] <Skaag> removed it + purge, it also removed the package 'ubuntu-desktop'.... :-o
[17:13] <trism> Skaag: you could simply run /usr/lib/notification-daemon/notification-daemon or add it to Startup Applications
[17:13] <trism> Skaag: it will do that
[17:13] <santiago> hi
[17:14] <Skaag> cool, now to test it
[17:14] <Skaag> I guess it doesn't have some settings GUI?
[17:14] <trism> Skaag: it used to a long time ago but I think that's gone now
[17:14] <trism> Skaag: you could just run: notify-send Test Message
[17:15] <Skaag> that works
[17:15] <Skaag> yep, much less annoying notifications!
[17:15] <Skaag> I don't know who's idea it was, the way notify-osd behaves
[17:16] <honest_crook> hello - newbie here
[17:16] <trism> the issue is, notify-osd notifications are drawn directly to the screen, they don't really have windows so there is nothing to catch clicks
[17:17] <usr13> honest_crook: Ok, well, looks like we've established the honest part.
[17:18] <rodrigograca31> Hi :)
[17:18] <honest_crook> I plan on creating a home server and would like to use ubuntu server, but i am a total noob when it come to linux. i will be downloading media content via usenet and i want to store it on the server. my pc is windows, though. Is it easy to move files from windows to linux?
[17:18] <usr13> honest_crook: Yes
[17:18] <usr13> !samba | honest_crook
[17:19] <rodrigograca31> why i can't /join php ???
[17:19] <usr13> rodrigograca31: I don't know. Why can't you?
[17:20] <honest_crook> thanks for links. i will look at them in a few. is samba something that can automate moving files?
[17:20] <usr13> !register | rodrigograca31
[17:20] <usr13> honest_crook: No
[17:20] <rodrigograca31>  it says: Irssi: You are now talking in #php
[17:21] <rodrigograca31> Cannot join to channel #php (You must be invited)
[17:21] <usr13> rodrigograca31: Try ##php
[17:21] <nightdemon666> Can anyone suggest a better remote access protocol/application for accessing  an ubuntu server/pc other than ssh? Just curious of the response from experienced linux users...
[17:22] <usr13> nightdemon666: What kind of access do you need?  (ssh if very powerful. Not sure what you need beyond that.)
[17:22] <usr13> nightdemon666: Do you want a GUI of some sort?  Like vnc?
[17:23] <usr13> nightdemon666: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  (But that would not be for server use.)
[17:23] <rantic> nightdemon666: SSH is the ideal solution for terminal access, as usr13 said VNC is also an option, but I've heard great things about TeamViewer for newbies.
[17:23] <honest_crook> user13: darn that is a huge bummer. the programs i use do automate moving files and that's a huge reason why i use them. is there any way to make this work?
[17:24] <usr13> honest_crook: What "programs" do you use?
[17:24] <varunendra> Does anyone know of a bandwidth monitoring applet that integrates into Unity panel?
[17:24] <usr13> honest_crook: I don't understand your question, (if you already have a program you use).
[17:24] <rodrigograca31> usr13:  Irssi: You are now talking in ##php
[17:25] <genii> nightdemon666: ssh is pretty much the defacto standard. You can enhance it by using for instance key based instead of password based auth.
[17:25] <rodrigograca31> usr13: ##php Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[17:25] <rantic> rodrigograca31: You need to register an account with FreeNode and authenticate to speak in certain channels.
[17:25] <usr13> rodrigograca31: You must register your nick.  See above msg from ubottu.
[17:26] <honest_crook> usr13: sabnzbd+, sickbeard, couchpotato, headphones. they do move files locally, but I want to start putting them on a home server running ubuntu server.
[17:26] <rodrigograca31> rantic: Ok....
[17:26] <rantic> rodrigograca31: /msg NickServ REGISTER password youremail@example.com
[17:26] <rodrigograca31> usr13: ok....
[17:26] <usr13> !register > rodrigograca31
[17:27] <W3ird_N3rd> something @ wiki seems broken. I want to edit https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Lubuntu/RemoteDesktop but have no account. So I went to the login page, entered my launchpad details
[17:27] <W3ird_N3rd> OpenID error: return_to does not match return URL. Expected 'http://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=login&login=1&oidstage=1&stage=openid', got u'http://wiki.edubuntu.org/?action=login&login=1&oidstage=1&stage=openid&janrain_nonce=2013-07-22
[17:27] <W3ird_N3rd> and I have arrived at some extremely long URL
[17:27] <W3ird_N3rd> full of openID info
[17:27] <nightdemon666> Usr13, to be honest, my neighbor has asked me about why i choose cli access for almost everything i do on my ubuntu 12.04 netbook. I told him its because it lows me to access the machine in the most powerful way, requiring the least amount of bandwidth, all on only one software port of access. My opinion, still better than vpn, as i hear stories and experience frequent drop outs. Ssh seems much more reliable, and very configurable. I
[17:27] <dwr> Hey can anyone help me with a network issue on fresh install of 13.04 on a dell inspiron 1520 laptop
[17:28] <rantic> dwr: Maybe. If you provide us with enough information.
[17:28] <usr13> honest_crook: Far as I know, it will work across samba, (it's just a network share).
[17:28] <dwr> hey rantic, what do you need to know?
[17:28] <varunendra> dwr, please show us output of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net". Paste the output to pastebin and give us its link
[17:28] <usr13> honest_crook: I don't see that moving files locally will be any different than to and from a network-share.
[17:28] <honest_crook> usr13: great. thanks.
[17:29] <rantic> dwr: I don't know what your networking issue is at all. Let me know to the best of your ability what is happening.
[17:29] <usr13> honest_crook: ... but I don't use a lot of MS Windows tools.  I use nfs mostly.
[17:29] <usr13> (linux-linux)
[17:30] <Skaag> trism: that explains things... (about notify-osd)
[17:30] <Skaag> thanks for that
[17:30] <honest_crook> usr13: yes, i was just worried that windows wouldn't communicate properly with ubuntu server. now i need to find out whether the programs i use can actually do it.
[17:30] <usr13> honest_crook: ... but samba works just as well.
[17:30] <trism> Skaag: actually I think I might be wrong, looks like it renders to a gtk widget so I really have no idea
[17:31] <Skaag> well I sure hope that part gets improved dramatically, it is very lacking and a great annoyance
[17:31] <dwr> rantic I have no wireless or wired connection at all. I am not sure if i need to install drivers? First time trying linux.
[17:31] <ro9> help "import json" error in python
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> Dwr: what wifi chip does the system use?
[17:32] <usr13> honest_crook: it will
[17:32] <dwr> pretty sure it is a broadcom
[17:33] <usr13> dwr: What does iwconfig say?  (Open a terminal, type  iwconfig  hit enter.)
[17:33] <gustav__> I'm having some trouble with an external disk. Not sure if it's a hardware error or if there's a problem with the FS or what's wrong. Do you know? dmesg has a lot; http://pastebin.com/a6pp5pdm
[17:33] <Tuna-Fish> how can you set up an alarm clock that plays music in rhytmbox?
[17:33] <nightdemon666> Ha! Well i guess ssh is all i really need since no one suggested anything else :-P
[17:33] <usr13> Tuna-Fish: Why not just use a cron job
[17:33] <usr13> ?
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> Dwr: if you run : sudo lshw -C network , what is the chip?
[17:33] <rantic> dwr: What laptop is this again?
[17:33] <trism> ro9: can you pastebin the error?
[17:33] <Tuna-Fish> usr13: it'll be for a non-technical user
[17:33] <varunendra> dwr, We already guessed by the name Dell. But exactly what chip it is?
[17:34] <dwr> bear with me finding now
[17:34] <Tuna-Fish> usr13: and it would be swell if she could adjust the alarm herself
[17:34] <usr13> Tuna-Fish: I don't know then.
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Tuna-fish: for a one time alarm use 'at'
[17:34] <gustav__> http://pastebin.com/wiYys7AM Am I screwed?
[17:35] <usr13> Tuna-Fish: May be a plugin
[17:35] <W3ird_N3rd> ohw I can't log onto wiki.ubuntu.com either
[17:35] <honest_crook> could someone type out a fake directory address for a home network ubuntu server?
[17:35] <W3ird_N3rd> so all wiki is broken..
[17:35] <rantic> W3ird_N3rd: works for me
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> Tuna-fish : https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/alarm-clock-applet/
[17:36] <Tuna-Fish> thanks
[17:36] <W3ird_N3rd> rantic, wiki.ubuntu.com seems to work now.. edubuntu still no
[17:36] <rantic> W3ird_N3rd: This could in some way be related to the security breach on the forums
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Tuna-fish : all I did was search the Internet
[17:36] <rantic> W3ird_N3rd: edubuntu works for me too
[17:36] <ro9> need help pastebin http://pastebin.com/jkAtNPR7
[17:36] <W3ird_N3rd> wiki.edubuntu.org?
[17:36] <usr13> Tuna-Fish: http://fabien.carrion.free.fr/Rhythmbox.html
[17:37] <W3ird_N3rd> keep getting OpenID error: return_to does not match return URL. Expected 'http://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=login&login=1&oidstage=1&stage=openid', got u'http://wiki.edubuntu.org/?action=login&login=1&oidstage=1&stage=openid&janrain_nonce=2013-07-22T17
[17:37] <rantic> W3ird_N3rd: Yeah no problems here
[17:37] <W3ird_N3rd> seems just nothing but a bug
[17:37] <rantic> W3ird_N3rd: Scratch that mine isn't functioning anymore
[17:37] <usr13> Tuna-Fish: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/08/5-rhythmbox-plugins-you-should-install
[17:38] <Tuna-Fish> usr13: that's for the pre-3 version of rhythmbox
[17:38] <usr13> Tuna-Fish: I know.
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> Tuna-fish : search the Internet for: ubuntu alarm clock
[17:39] <dwr> sudo lshw -c network show bcm4311
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Tuna-fish: simple search lots of hits.
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | dwr
[17:40] <trism> ro9: that is a weird error, can you try in the interactive python shell: import encodings
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> Dwr: thought it would be a cheap broadcom
[17:40] <ro9> trism: http://pastebin.com/jkAtNPR7
[17:40] <varunendra> dwr, do you have a wired connection available?
[17:40] <ro9> trism: import encodings OK
[17:41] <trism> ro9: it looks like bug 1058884
[17:41] <dwr> i tried plugging it in and no connection
[17:41] <dwr> ethernet is bcm4401
[17:41] <nathaneltitane> hello guys/girls, I am looking for info in regards to having the ubuntu on android install (the 'dock to switch' ubuntu for android)
[17:41] <Tuna-Fish> ActionParsnip: all of which are for old versions and don't work anymore or don't do what I want to
[17:41] <DJones> !phone | nathaneltitane
[17:42] <Tuna-Fish> spent a while doing this already
[17:42] <varunendra> dwr, please show us the output of "lspci -nn | grep 0280"
[17:42] <nathaneltitane> DJones: but is it the actual dock to switch version?
[17:43] <DJones> nathaneltitane: I don't know, as far as I know, thats probably the only channel that is likely to be able to give you any pointers through
[17:43] <dementor> hy need some help to install a fan control un my machine  i am a newbie
[17:43] <bazhang> ##hardware dementor
[17:44] <nathaneltitane> DJones: thanks, because i am not interested in replacing android as the phone os, but would like to have ubuntu as a main os when docked to a workstation
[17:44] <varunendra> dwr, only the last big bracket would suffice (for example [168c:002b])
[17:44] <dwr> varunendra, if i knew how to type the vertical line. I feel like an idiot right now!
[17:45] <dwr> [14e4:4311] i think
[17:45] <varunendra> dwr, it's on the same key as "\" on my us-104 keyboard. (press with "Shift")
[17:45] <bazhang> dwr, thats the pipe, it's the key above enter with shift
[17:45] <dwr> aha!
[17:45] <bazhang> so blah | blah
[17:46] <dwr> got it
[17:46] <dwr> it was [14e4:4311]
[17:46] <fetoega> Has the ubuntu site been defaced?
[17:46] <genii> fetoega: The ubuntuforums site is currently down.
[17:46] <trism> ro9: you might try: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libpython2.7-minimal libpython2.7-stdlib; to see if recompiling the python bytecode for those two modules fixes things
[17:47] <varunendra> dwr, download the linux-firmware-nonfree package from here : http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/all/linux-firmware-nonfree/download >> copy it to your ubuntu machine and double click to install. Reboot or just do "sudo modprobe -v b43". Done !
[17:49] <dementor> any  softuare  somthing?
[17:49] <noons> window
[17:50] <bazhang> !sensors | dementor
[17:50] <dwr> ok i opened the installer and it looks like the install button is greyed out.
[17:50] <irssi-mike> can't adjust fan speed of gpu, any chance i'm missing something--added coolbits and nvlclock however nvclock freezes.
[17:52] <varunendra> dwr, it shouldn't be..
[17:53] <varunendra> dwr, it shouldn't matter, but try the 13.04 specific package : http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/all/linux-firmware-nonfree/download
[17:54] <ascheel> sudo question.  Any idea why my username cannot sudo?  It APPEARS to be set up properly:  https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6056001
[17:55] <fetoega> genii: thanks
[17:55] <studious> ascheel: add your username to sudo group, logoff, login
[17:56] <dwr> same thing, is it supposed to open Ubuntun software centre
[17:56] <zachrab> whats the best irc client for Ubuntu?
[17:56] <studious> zachrab: xchat
[17:56] <bazhang> !best > zachrab
[17:56] <ascheel> studious: It's a member of the sudo group already and I've already started a new shell session
[17:56] <studious> !best > studious
[17:57] <varunendra> dwr, yes. It's the first time I'm seeing this behaviour. Must be something's wrong with the software centre.
[17:57] <zachrab> sorry was logged off
[17:57] <zachrab> what is the most widely used ubuntu irc client?
[17:58] <varunendra> dwr, nevermind. Can you open it with archive manager? (Right-click > open with archive manager)
[17:58] <dwr> oh dear, do you think i should try 12.04?
[17:58] <dwr> yes opens with archive manager
[17:58] <dwr> have 3 folders
[17:58] <zachrab> Ubuntu IRC client i got disconnected?
[17:59] <varunendra> dwr, browse to "/lib/firmware/" and extract (drag & drop) the "b43" folder.
[17:59] <bazhang> zachrab, no way possible to know that. dont poll here
[17:59] <dwr> to desktop?
[17:59] <varunendra> dwr, yes
[17:59] <kulhas> hi, how can I configure the unity rigth app menu to scrool with mouse scrool ?
[17:59] <zachrab> bazhang: k not a poll objectively what is the most widely used irc client for ubuntu
[17:59] <ascheel> zachrab: there is no 'best' piece of software.  For IRC, the most common is 'XChat' as it's installed by default.  Pick your preference.
[17:59] <dwr> done
[17:59] <bazhang> zachrab, stop asking. try some and decide
[17:59] <usr13> zachrab: just use irssi like most of us do.
[18:00] <ascheel> usr13: +1
[18:00] <kulhas> I like konversation
[18:00] <varunendra> dwr, now open a terminal (ctrl+alt+T) > enter this command - "cd ~/Desktop" (mind the caps).
[18:01] <dwr> Done
[18:01] <zachrab> i dont have xcat on my ubuntu
[18:01] <anonee> hello room, could you please help me with this: http://pastebin.com/HH3DhcQV
[18:01] <zachrab> how do i dl it?
[18:01] <usr13> zachrab: sudo apt-get install <package-name-here>
[18:01] <anonee> I don't know what to do, the sound works on the guest account
[18:02] <anonee> and on the login screen ofcourse
[18:02] <varunendra> dwr, now do - "sudo mkdir /lib/firmware/b43"
[18:02] <zachrab> usr13: what is the package name? Xchat?
[18:02] <usr13> zachrab: irssi
[18:02] <zachrab> usr13: k
[18:02] <usr13> zachrab: sudo apt-get install xchat-gnome
[18:02] <dwr> done
[18:03] <kulhas> zachrab: why dont you use the software center or synapitic ?
[18:03] <usr13> zachrab: sudo apt-get install xchat
[18:03] <chisholm> Is anyone having trouble where their sound is staticy in chrome?
[18:03] <usr13> zachrab: Sorry just xchat
[18:03] <varunendra> dwr, next - "sudo cp b43/* /lib/firmware/b43/" (mind the space before "/lib/fir...")
[18:04] <usr13> zachrab: apt-cache search <key-word>   #To find out what you don't know.
[18:04] <zachrab> usr13: ok i installed irssi how do i launch it
[18:05] <anonee> again, if anyone just tells me what to do, it would be great, the sound doesn't work only on my user account, this is what I get when I type "pulseaudio" in the terminal http://pastebin.com/HH3DhcQV
[18:05] <MeirD> How can I run a process from the shell with a different LANG env?
[18:05] <Nach0z> zachrab: tmux irssi
[18:05] <Nach0z> or screen irssi
[18:05] <dwr> done
[18:05] <zachrab> Nach0z: so does irssi run in the terminal?
[18:05] <Nach0z> yes.
[18:05] <Nach0z> run it in screen or tmux, makes it more BNC-ish
[18:05] <zachrab> Nach0z: BNC?
[18:05] <varunendra> dwr, now confirm - "ls /lib/firmware/b43 | wc -l" ==> does it show about (or exactly) 117 ?
[18:06] <Nach0z> reduces startup lag for people like me who are on a hundred fifty some odd channels...
[18:06] <Nach0z> zachrab: screen or tmux, so it never goes offline basically
[18:06] <usr13> zachrab: Yes irssi runs in terminal
[18:06] <Nach0z> and you can just hop right back in
[18:06] <varunendra> dwr, sorry, make it "ls -1..."
[18:06] <zachrab> usr13: i wanna use a more GUI client so i tried installing xchat
[18:06] <hrolf_> Sucks when a single browser, a single tab, a single script can bring your whole system down.
[18:06] <hrolf_> Something is wrong with Ubuntu
[18:07] <Nach0z> if you want a gui client, try icechat 9.
[18:07] <zachrab> usr13: how do i launch xchat and delete irssi
[18:08] <dwr> cursor flashed, then went solid, now nothing
[18:08] <varunendra> dwr, does the command "ls /lib/firmware/b43" return some output?
[18:09] <dwr> a list of .fw files
[18:10] <varunendra> dwr, that's fine then. Now do - "sudo modprobe -rfv b43"...... then..... "sudo modprobe -v b43" . Does the wireless come to life?
[18:11] <DWSR> hey all, I just did an install of precise server amd64, did an initial dist-upgrade, and rebooted because of a kernel upgrade. Now I can't boot the server. Halp? Additionally, my grub is fscked and doesn't display properly on the connected monitor.
[18:14] <dwr> hey cursor flashes the goes solid then flashes, no sign of wifi yet!
[18:14] <k8553555> 1
[18:14] <HALP> have you tried turning it off and back on?
[18:14] <satyam2> DWSR: what do you need the server for?
[18:14] <DWSR> satyam2: File/media server.
[18:15] <varunendra> dwr, does "lsmod | grep b43" return some output?
[18:15] <santiago> list
[18:15] <satyam2> DWSR: try going by tty, see if you login there...
[18:15] <DWSR> HALP: Yes.
[18:16] <DWSR> satyam2: This is a vanilla server install. I don't have Unity or X installed. The ttys don't appear at all, trying 1 through 7
[18:16] <sharif> can u help me plzz any one
[18:16] <HALP> new install? i would just do a "do over"
[18:16] <sharif> Ubuntu Edge price plzz
[18:16] <satyam2> DWSR: ohh alright! Let some expert help you! By the way you work in a company?
[18:17] <DWSR> satyam2: no.
[18:17] <Myrtti> sharif: it's on the indygogo website.
[18:17] <karen_> Hi, I've had Xubuntu 12.04 for a few months and heard that Linux doesn't use Silverlight. I just signed up for Book Patch and online site to write and print a book. It is asking me to download Microsoft Silverlight to be able to use the site. What should I do?
[18:17] <DWSR> HALP: I'd rather not spend the 3 hours it took to get the server to where it is currently. It's a new installation, but I had to install zfsonlinux, which takes a long while to compile the kernel modules.
[18:17] <MagePsycho> how to diff two folder files?
[18:17] <DWSR> karen_: Use Mono.
[18:17] <sharif> web sit plzz
[18:18] <sharif> web site plzz
[18:18] <karen_> What do you mean, "use Mono"? How do I do that?
 plzz website
[18:18] <Myrtti> karen_: moonlight might work, but there's no guarantees. moonlight requires mono to work.
[18:18] <karen_> o.k. is that in the software?
[18:19] <Myrtti> sharif: I'm sure the website you heard about the device has a link to the indygogo fundraiser.
[18:19] <satyam2> yes try Moonlight
[18:19] <dwr> nothing as yet, starting to think this laptop is just a pos
[18:19] <DWSR> karen_: http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/what-is-silverlight/ <--- Silverlight is officially supported on Linux.
[18:20] <DWSR> karen_: Additionally, check out the Moonlight project. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonlight_(runtime)
[18:20] <varunendra> dwr, are you sure you are typing "|" and not "\" ?? ;P
[18:21] <dwr> yes, i think terminal is still processing sudo modprobe -v b43
[18:21] <karen_> So, can I download the Silverlight and be safe here on my Xubuntu?
[18:21] <karen_> since you said it is supported on lInux
[18:21] <xangua> karen_: there is no 'silverlight for linux'
[18:21] <varunendra> dwr, it should be done in less than two second !
[18:22] <dwr> maybe bad laptop, am trying ubuntu cos win7 ground to a halt?
[18:22] <karen_> soooo I'm sorry, what should I do then on that site?
[18:22] <varunendra> dwr, so is the terminal not ready to accept commands yet? Can you run "lsmod | grep b43" in another terminal ?
[18:23] <godbod> hello, anyone knows how to enable/disable USB port wth fake usb like fans, lihts etc?
[18:23] <godbod> lights*
[18:23] <HALP> Karen : Virtual Box
[18:24] <karen_> did someone just write me saying get Virtual Box?
[18:24] <dwr> yes just goes to next command line, no output
[18:24] <HALP> i run XP on Oracle VM
[18:25] <HALP> iTunes
[18:25] <varunendra> dwr, the firmware files seem to be in place. You may just reboot if nothing else works. And make sure the wireless switch is turned on if you laptop has one.
[18:25] <Shizuo> Welcome to Ubuntu
[18:26] <dwr> yes it is on, will try reboot. Thanks anyway, your a star for helping
[18:26] <varunendra> dwr, not yet ? ;P
[18:26] <karen_> O.K. guys, what do i do on Book Patch if I can't download Silverlight?
[18:26] <varunendra> dwr, I assume you are replying from a different system ?
[18:27] <Shizuo> Silverlight?
[18:27] <DWSR> !silverlight
[18:27] <DWSR> !silverlight | karen_
[18:27] <xangua> DWSR: moonlight is no longer developed
[18:27] <Shizuo> !dotnet
[18:27] <Shizuo> !.net
[18:27] <DWSR> xangua: Mono still is.
[18:27] <DWSR> xangua: So confused.
[18:28] <DWSR> Microsoft says they officially support it.
[18:28] <karen_> THANKS! I'll try that command!
[18:28] <xangua> DWSR: microsoft says lots of things
[18:28] <DWSR> xangua: Yeah, they do.
[18:29] <DWSR> karen_: If that doesn't work for you, you're going to have to install Windows inside of a virtual machine (such as with VirtualBox) and run your Silverlight application from there.
[18:29] <DWSR> hey all, I just did an install of precise server amd64, did an initial dist-upgrade, and rebooted because of a kernel upgrade. Now I can't boot the server. Additionally, my grub is fscked and doesn't display properly on the connected monitor.
[18:30] <dwr> yes using my ex-bf win7 pc he left here! hence why i would love to get up and running
[18:30] <DYSW> He left.. Imagining him standing in socks only outside in january. OT sorry
[18:30] <karen_> It said it was unable to activate    moonlight-plugin-mozilla
[18:31] <dwr> Im stuck with this old dell with smashed screen and ext monitor feeling pretty sorry for myself
[18:31] <varunendra> dwr, if you haven't restarted the ubuntu lappy yet, or if the reboot doesn't work, please check if "lsmod | grep wl" returns something. This device should be quite simple to fix (unless it is broken).
[18:31] <DYSW> dwr; at least you got his laptop. Lets get it working
[18:32] <karen_> I mean "unable to locate package"
[18:32] <DWSR> karen_: Apparently the package is no longer supported.
[18:32] <DWSR> karen_: Meaning you'll have to use a virtual machine.
[18:32] <dwr> just about booted up
[18:32] <karen_> oh    what does "use a virtual machine mean?"
[18:33] <varunendra> dwr, did you cross your fingers ?? ;P
[18:33] <DWSR> karen_: It's a machine inside of a machine.
[18:33] <DWSR> karen_: It's like running a computer inside of your computer.
[18:33] <varunendra> dwr, and toes ??
[18:33] <karen_> ummm soooo?
[18:33] <DWSR> hey all, I just did an install of precise server amd64, did an initial dist-upgrade, and rebooted because of a kernel upgrade. Now I can't boot the server. Additionally, my grub is fscked and doesn't display properly on the connected monitor.
[18:33] <DWSR> karen_: I'm not really sure how much more I can really explain that to you.
[18:33] <dwr> wl 3226093 1
[18:33] <DWSR> karen_: You're going to have to virtually run a copy of Windows inside of a virtual machine so that you can use your Silverlight application.
[18:34] <dwr> lib80211 14352 1 wl
[18:34] <DWSR> Meaning it's going to require at least an hour or so of your time and effort.
[18:34] <varunendra> dwr, that may be the problem. I think BINGO !
[18:34] <dwr> cfg80211 510937 1 wl
[18:34] <Sarger001> Is there a way I could run my laptop at home and connect to it using a remote desktop on a live cd or do i have to install ubuntu first onto the computer i'll be connecting from?
[18:34] <karen_> o.k.  or use my other computer Windows computer.
[18:35] <DWSR> karen_: Or that as well.
[18:35] <varunendra> dwr, try - "sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source"
[18:35] <karen_> There's no other thing that will work, huh? Kinda like trying to get Netflix to work, same thing, I think.
[18:35] <DWSR> karen_: Yes. Unfortunately, with such a small market share, Linux is left in the cold for these things.
[18:36] <karen_> o.k.  that's a bummer, but thanks for your time.
[18:36] <DWSR> karen_: Sorry I couldn't help you further!
[18:36] <HALP> personally if something doesn't work on Linux I don't miss it
[18:36] <HALP> I'm just thankful my computers don't have to install updates for 45 minutes every time i shut them down
[18:37] <DWSR> HALP: yeah, there are pros and cons.
[18:37] <dwr> removing all dkms modules
[18:37] <dwr> still working
[18:37] <HALP> every time my uncles starts his laptop he has to update something, and every time he shuts it down too LooooL
[18:37] <Sarger001> Like can i share a remote desktop from my laptop computer at home (Ubuntu 13.04) and use someone elses computer far away or something with a Ubuntu 13.04 live CD and view my remote desktop and control it?
[18:37] <dwr> on a side note, i think win7 knew i was abandoning them
[18:38] <HALP> thing is though, when you update windows it fixes stuff....and when you update Linux...it breaks EVERYTHING
[18:38] <varunendra> dwr, yes, we are removing the proprietary driver. Once it is finished, check - "lsmod | grep b43". Any output?
[18:38] <dwr> my ubuntu iso download got to 94% and i look up and see installing updates on my screen
[18:38] <euxneks> HALP, that's debatable
[18:38] <HALP> (also *never* update iOS)
[18:38] <dwr> ok
[18:38] <varunendra> dwr, win7 knew? Any misbehaviour from it?
[18:39] <Sarger001> When i updated my Windows 8 it broke itself
[18:39] <dwr> no output
[18:39] <Sarger001> And then i just reinstalled linux because i didn't want to install that piece of ****
[18:39] <Sarger001> again
[18:39] <Sarger001> xD
[18:39] <varunendra> dwr, good. Now do - "sudo modprobe -v b43" -- > shouldn't get stuck this time.
[18:40] <dwr> just that it let me get 20 mins into downloading ubuntu then it decided now would be a good time to restart and install updatesw
[18:40] <varunendra> :D
[18:40] <Sarger001> Have you tried torrenting it? Faster and more reliable.
[18:40] <dwr> i have it now.
[18:40] <Sarger001> Oh
[18:41] <Sarger001> Okat
[18:41] <Sarger001> *Okay
[18:41] <dwr> terminal looks like not responding again
[18:42] <Guest87760> O.k. i just went to the Software Center and typed in Silverlight to see what they offer. It's offering "Splash to Personal for Linux (Beta)", something about being able to hook up to Windows etc... I don't know. does anyone know about that?
[18:42] <dwr> cock it
[18:42] <varunendra> dwr, perhaps I should have brought down the interface also.... another reboot ? :(
[18:42] <dwr> ok
[18:43] <dementor> how  can i controll my  laptop fan speed i install lm-sensor i can see the temp of the proc but i need to control the fan  speed   i am new in linux
[18:43] <MichaelP> If attackers can steal are user names and passwords.. from ubuntu servers.. for the ubuntu fourums .. how sercure is are compyrers running the distro. ?    Ubuntu forums was attacked.....   http://ubuntuforums.org/announce.html?t=1471664
[18:44] <baordog> how would I ask unix's time function for yesterdays date?
[18:44] <fellayaboy> how do i mount a network (ssh) filesystem to my local filesystem...i have a laptop and i want to mount my desktops filesystem as if it were a local drive..i only connect to it via ssh
[18:44] <jrib> MichaelP: depends on how the server was compromised I imagine.
[18:45] <Slart> MichaelP: as safe as the people taking care of them make them. I doubt it was a ubuntu-specific bug that was exploited
[18:45] <dwr> varunendra, what does your nick mean?
[18:45] <ryan_12345> usr13: Helo it's me again, I've installed Ubuntu and it's taking me stright back to Windows XP BootLoader
[18:46] <Slart> fellayaboy: sshfs springs to mind if you're already got ssh setup
[18:46] <Slart> fellayaboy: you basically use it the same way you mount other drives.. in /etc/fstab
[18:46] <varunendra> dwr, it's an Indian name - meaning .... umm.... are you really interested.. ?? ;P
[18:47] <dwr> go ahead, I am intriuged
[18:47] <varunendra> dwr, just for your confidence, this device you have works pretty well with the native b43 driver : http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 . But the initial failure to simply install the linux-firmware-nonfree package may indicate some additional (possibly non-related) issues.
[18:48] <varunendra> dwr, the name means - "The God of Water" by the way.... :)
[18:48] <Slart> baordog: date --date="yesterday"    seems to work
[18:48] <Slart> baordog: not sure if it works on a unix machine though.. but this is #ubuntu after all =)
[18:48] <dwr> Very nice
[18:49] <fellayaboy> Start i havent mounted nothing in fstab in my knowledge..i usually mount iso files to my /mnt using mount -t iso9660 myiso.iso /mnt
[18:49] <varunendra> dwr, thanx ! :D
[18:50] <micahf> hey, i just installed ubuntu 13.04 on an acer w700 tablet... there's all kinds of trouble!
[18:50] <Slart> fellayaboy: try using sshfs instead of iso9660 .. oh and you have to put the address for the networked computer as well.. google "sshfs" for better directions on how the command should look exactly, I don't really remember the specifics
[18:50] <micahf> the touch screen stops working after a few minutes
[18:50] <dwr> my name means lady of the home
[18:51] <fellayaboy> thanks Start
[18:51] <micahf> the included usb keyboard is not detected
[18:51] <micahf> pulse audio crashes after a few minutes
[18:51] <dwr> ok its booted
[18:51] <varunendra> dwr, I didn't think "dwr" could be a name ;)
[18:51] <dwr> Haha, id love to hear you pronounce it.
[18:52] <ryan_12345> Hello it's me again, I've installed Ubuntu and it's taking me stright back to Windows XP BootLoader
[18:52] <dwr> it is my initials
[18:52] <Slart> ryan_12345: no problems during the install? Is this a brand new computer? uefi bios?
[18:53] <varunendra> dwr, I'll try if you wish. Meanwhile, check again "lsmod | grep -e b43 -e wl" [18:53] <dwr> Hey! It works!
[18:53] <dwr> WIFI!!!!
[18:53] <varunendra> dwr, YAY !! :D
[18:53] <dwr> Lovely lovely wifi
[18:53] <dwr> you are my hero!
[18:54] <ryan_12345> no it has Windows XP on a 40GiB HDD
[18:54] <varunendra> dwr, I was about to get you into mess of a complex script... ! You were rescued before the crisis ! ;)
[18:54] <InsaneGene> Guys, I get the GUI crash whenever I open video file, I'm on 12.04 ,I've installed sis671 driver long time ago to fix the resolution problem and the resolution problem is solved but the GUI crashes every time I play videos any help?
[18:54] <dwr> tbh I kinda enjoy the problem solving
[18:54] <dwr> i loved rooting my phones
[18:55] <Slart> ryan_12345: so no grub booting screen when you start the computer? it just goes to windows directly?
[18:55] <Morph4me> varunendra: good call on purging proprietary driver /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-bcm43.conf
[18:55] <R0b0t1> Hi, I am trying to apt-get various packages and apt says they are not authenticated?
[18:55] <ryan_12345> Slart: It asks me if I want to select which OS (cause I have 2 HDD
[18:55] <dwr> Yay for varuendra!
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> R0b0t1, you get a key missing?
[18:56] <varunendra> dwr, if you wish to keep using Ubuntu on it, remember - always just install the "linux-firmware-nonfree" package anyhow, and DO NOT install the proprietary driver (wl, aka bcmwl-kernel-source).
[18:56] <varunendra> Morph4me, thanx ! :) Although I suspect it was the 'loaded' state of wl that was more problematic. (causing the freezes)
[18:57] <Morph4me> varunendra, as a side not sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree ...< works
[18:57] <Morph4me> note*
[18:57] <Quest> is there a program for ubuntu that is similar to corel paint ? I need to use it for writing and drawing with my mouse pen tablet?
[18:57] <varunendra> Morph4me, that was my first attempt, but she didn't have a working internet connection.
[18:58] <Morph4me> awe!
[18:58] <Pici> Quest: I've heard good things about krita
[18:58] <dwr> ok im getting off his machine now!
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> R0b0t1, If you are getting the missing key showing run sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys "missing  key"
[18:58] <varunendra> Morph4me, fortunately, that package doesn't have any dependencies. :)
[18:58] <dwr> thank you so much, you fricking genius
[18:58] <Quest> Pici,  hm.
[18:59] <Pici> Quest: It'll probably pull in a bunch of KDE dependencies though.
[18:59] <Morph4me> varunendra you made her day :)
[18:59] <R0b0t1> wilee-nilee: No, I do not get a missing key message
[18:59] <Slart> ryan_12345: ok.. so you do get the grub screen at bootup.. but it won't load the proper os, correct?
[18:59] <R0b0t1> Just says not authed
[18:59] <varunendra> Morph4me, this is actually the first time a bcm4311 took so long !
[19:00] <R0b0t1> wilee-nilee: "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" Then prompts for install, default of no.
[19:00] <ryan_12345> Slart: Yes
[19:01] <Morph4me> lol next time check > ls /etc/modprobe.d/* for bcm  ...j/k you stuck with it and got it working for her ...good stuff
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> R0b0t1, Right but does it show something like this "B998019EC07BBEC4" in that notification?
[19:01] <Slart> ryan_12345: I'm not really familiar with the new grub.. there used to be commands to make grub look around on the hard drives for operating systems to boot and configure itself more or less automatically.. but I'm not really sure how to do that with grub 2
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> R0b0t1, best here really is to pastebin the whole sudo apt-get update or installs.
[19:02] <ryan_12345> Slart: right okay
[19:02] <trism> Quest: mypaint is pretty nice
[19:02] <R0b0t1> wilee-nilee: Oh, I had to apt-get update
[19:02] <R0b0t1> thanks
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> Slart, grub legacy did not have a os-prober sudo update-grub is grub 2's os-prober
[19:03] <diverdude> wtf. when i execute eog imagename.png in the terminal, the image is shown....but the image window is not the active window....terminal keeps being that active window....thats insanely annoying...of course i expect the newly opened image to be the active window so, that its the first to be closed when i press F4. Why is it that various linux distribution can never get these little very essential things right!
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> !language | diverdude
[19:04] <diverdude> wilee-nilee, thats not gonna help mate
[19:04] <Slart> wilee-nilee: oh.. must be me glorifying the good old days =)
[19:04] <Slart> ryan_12345: try  sudo update-grub   and see if that makes things better
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> Slart, Heh, I never bothered with grub legacy.
[19:04] <SuperLag> Wow. The Ubuntu Edge looks NICE.
[19:04] <hio> Why does Ubuntu put close button on top left? Do they want to make people kill themselves?
[19:05] <zeokila> SuperLag, I agress, just that 32M is a lot... I hope they get it
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> hio, That can be fixed.
[19:05] <diverdude> hio, ubuntu have many insane "features"...until they stop doing those things...ubuntu will never be number 1
[19:05] <hio> I know, but everytime I reinstall Ubuntu I have to deal with this stuff
[19:05] <fps> will the drivers for the ubuntu edge hardware be completely free?
[19:05] <DJones> !controls | hio
[19:05] <SuperLag> zeokila: assuming you meant "I agree"... I hope they get it too :)
[19:05] <fps> [i.e. free as in libre/open source]
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> hio, Just a minute let me see if I can find that worlds smallest violin. ;)
[19:06] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: LOL
[19:06] <hio> Thank you, I'm pretty sad so I think I deserve some empathy
[19:06] <zeokila> SuperLag, I agree too x)
[19:06] <SuperLag> hio: haha
[19:06]  * SuperLag breaks out the popcorn
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> hio, You have more than you know. ;)
[19:07] <hio> You are making me feel terrible
[19:07] <hio> Today I got turned down for a job and now this on #ubuntu
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> hio, Was not my intention, your among friends here.
[19:08] <hio> Ok, can you tell me why Unity is so terrible? For example: When I click on an icon to start an application, it does not change state. I have no idea whether the click worked until the application actually is loaded
[19:10] <goddard> i want to patch the ubuntu font where is it located?
[19:10] <hio> for example, when I click on "launchpad", it's like clicking a flat surface. No indication that I just clicked something
[19:11] <SuperLag> hio: My apologies, as well. You are definitely among friends here.
[19:11] <nawk> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge
[19:11] <nawk> only few hours in and almost $1M raised
[19:11] <fps> hio: i have no answer for your question as i avoid unity like the plague, but i want to say that the best way to get answers is probably by not bashing the project as a preamble
[19:11] <fps> :D
[19:12] <hio> fps, that's really hard
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> nawk, Can I interest you in #ubuntu-touch
[19:13] <johnsmith> I have a quick question. When you install an exe program on ubuntu with wine, where do the program files go?
[19:13] <hio> .wine
[19:13] <hio> in home
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> johnsmith, somewhere in the wine folder I believe
[19:13] <DYSW> then C:/ etc inside there
[19:13] <SuperLag> fps++
[19:13] <SuperLag> hio: he's right
[19:14] <hio> SuperLag, but I can't find anyone who likes Unity
[19:14] <fps> SuperLag: i prefer the preincrement operator
[19:14] <johnsmith> Okay, thanks.
[19:14] <SuperLag> hio: I didn't like it at first, but it's waaaaaaaaaaay better now than it was initially
[19:15] <hio> but have you compared it to Gnome? I mean, there's no contest really
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> I liked it better with the CUBE
[19:15] <bazhang> !ot | hio
[19:15] <bazhang> lets get back to ubuntu support
[19:15] <sethj> Does anyone know where I can find 'qtdeclarative5-accounts-plugin' and the like for Precise?
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> sethj, I'm in raring but see it in synaptic.
[19:17] <bazhang> !find qtdeclarative5-accounts-plugin precise
[19:18] <sethj> bazhang, yeah I know that.
[19:19] <sethj> wilee-nilee, Let me look.. I'm afraid I'll have to download the raring version and hope for the best dependency wise >.<
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> sethj, I'm looking for a deb right now
[19:20] <SuperLag> fps: why
[19:20] <SuperLag> ?
[19:20] <fps> SuperLag: oh in c++ the preincrement operator might be non trivially overloaded
[19:21] <mengesb> someone able to help with a "xen dom0 mem directive being ignored" problem? I installed xen-hypervisor-amd64 and xcp-xapi packages, but it seems that dom0_mem= directives are being completely ignored and I have a dom0 with <2g memory
[19:21] <fps> and in that case it's more efficient than the postincrement
[19:22] <fps> so i have made it a habit to use ++foo, instead of foo++
[19:22] <fps> also it's more clear and less confusing..
[19:22] <fps> aside from the fact that it seems that ALL textbooks prefer foo++ ;D
[19:22] <fps> for no good reason at all
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> sethj, http://askubuntu.com/questions/236012/cant-install-qt-components-ubuntu-because-im-using-full-release-of-qt-5-0-0
[19:23] <fps> e.g. in a for loop: for (size_t index = 0; index < some_size; index++)
[19:23] <mengesb> Odd, in math, one doesn't seem to care if its "add one to var" or "var plus one".... addition doesn't have a n order of operations importance =/
[19:23] <fps> int i = 0;
[19:23] <fps> std::cout << i++;
[19:23] <fps> vs.
[19:23] <fps> std::cout << ++i;
[19:23] <fps> prints two different things..
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> mmmm algebra
[19:23] <fps> mengesb: well, yes, simple functions like additions in maths don't have state..
[19:24] <ianorlin> yes they do different things
[19:25] <sethj> wilee-nilee, I don't necessarily see how that applies.. unless you think installing the Qt sdk will get me those libs..
[19:25] <mengesb> where ever the ++ lands, means |this side|var = do op on var, then run; var|this side| = loop execution then op; makes sense to me
[19:25] <reisio> maths!
[19:25] <mengesb> <-- believes only in var++ syntax
[19:25] <fps> mengesb: why?
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> sethj, May not be just trying to help.
[19:25] <mengesb> because you want to execute on the known
[19:26] <fps> ??
[19:26] <sethj> wilee-nilee, Ah, ok. Well I might do that as a last resort.. Thanks :)
[19:26] <fps> i could not parse that sentence
[19:26] <mengesb> setting a var, then executing math on something you just set while defining a loop is somewhat idiotic
[19:26] <reisio> luckily you don't have to pick only one approach
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[19:26] <reisio> as there are many
[19:27] <fps> mengesb: well, c++ 11 has for (auto i : mycontainer) { /* do something with i */ }
[19:27] <mengesb> for ( i = val ; val |op| value ; val|operation| ) is predictable - since you initiate on i = val, not i = (val++)
[19:27] <fps> mengesb: kinda like in java. noone should have to declare integer variables just to iterate over a colletion
[19:28] <fps> mengesb: i still don't get your reasoning.. also your pseudocode syntax is strange..
[19:28] <bazhang> fps, how does this relate to ubuntu support
[19:28] <axisys> what is that tool to diff between directories starting with letter `m' ? I forgot.. anyone can help remember?
[19:28] <mengesb> what I've found is that people who use ++var want indexes of 1, and those who operate with var++ are those who can handle counting from zero
[19:28] <reisio> axisys: meld
[19:28] <fps> mengesb: no..
[19:29] <jrib> axisys: huh?
[19:29] <axisys> reisio: bingo! thanks a lot
[19:29] <fps> mengesb: anyways, we're drifting off topic
[19:29] <bazhang> fps mengesb please take the chat elsewhere
[19:29] <reisio> being able to count from zero and needing or wanting to are different things :)
[19:29] <fps> redundant bazhang is redundant
[19:29] <jrib> axisys: oh.  I read your question as a toll that: differentiates between directories starting with the letter 'm' and was very confused.
[19:29] <jrib> s/toll/tool
[19:29] <mengesb> bazhang: I'm still awaiting someone to help with a dom0_mem directive in grub being ignored
[19:30] <axisys> jrib: lol
[19:30] <Curiousness> hello
[19:30] <axisys> jrib: should have phrases it differently
[19:30] <axisys> prased*
[19:30] <reisio> 'lo Curiousness
[19:30] <axisys> phrased*
[19:31] <Curiousness> i want to know everything about linux... lol
[19:32] <reisio> Curiousness: start with this: Linux is a kernel, GNU/Linux is an OS, a clone of another OS: Unix
[19:32] <axisys> reisio: I forget this name a lot.. wish it named something else with the word diff in it
[19:32] <Curiousness> what is a kernal?
[19:32] <reisio> axisys: help alias
[19:32] <reisio> Curiousness: exactly
[19:33] <reisio> Curiousness: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_%28computing%29
[19:33] <axisys> reisio: right.. doing it now
[19:34] <JLUC> hello people
[19:34] <reisio> 'lo JLUC
[19:34] <Curiousness> what is the difference between unix and linux
[19:35] <neekz0r> Curiousness: methodology, licesning, and philosophy
[19:35] <reisio> Curiousness: Unix is an OS, Linux is a kernel
[19:35] <reisio> also licensing
[19:35] <Curiousness> so UNIX is like ubuntu?
[19:35] <JLUC> i have a big big issue with my computer's keyboard and i want Ubuntu to stop listening to it : how can i do ?
[19:35] <reisio> Curiousness: Ubuntu is like Unix, more like
[19:36] <reisio> JLUC: xinput
[19:36] <Guest93986> #part
[19:36] <wizrd> Curiousness: http://www.diffen.com/difference/Linux_vs_Unix
[19:36] <Curiousness> thnx
[19:36] <varunendra> !linux | Curiousness this may be a good starting point for you
[19:36] <neekz0r> Curiousness: what reisio said.. but there are a lot of differences.. think about it kind of like horses and zebras
[19:37] <reisio> zebras live in africa
[19:37] <reisio> horses live in montana
[19:37] <Curiousness> lol thnx for all the help everyone...
[19:37] <neekz0r> but if you don't know any better, you'd say they are the same except for the colors
[19:37] <reisio> because they are mostly the same
[19:38] <JLUC> thanks reisio - is there a very easy way to switch it off without exploring (because it keeps typing az-s much faster than me)
[19:38] <reisio> unplug it
[19:38] <JLUC> its a laptop and as far as i know i cannot unplug it
[19:38] <reisio> ah
[19:39] <JLUC> i've taken the faulty keys off but no effecty
[19:39] <reisio> can you ssh into it?
[19:39] <JLUC> ssh from another computer on the local network ?
[19:39] <reisio> xinput list will give you the id #, then you can do xinput set-prop idHere 'Device Enabled' 0
[19:39] <reisio> JLUC: yeah
[19:40] <JLUC> i'm very bad with network managing and i have no other linux machine there
[19:41] <JLUC> then maybe i should install lubuntu on another
[19:41] <JLUC> machine
[19:41] <reisio> you can ssh from any OS
[19:42] <reisio> JLUC: http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/latest/x86/putty.exe
[19:42] <JLUC> oh i remember having used putty
[19:42] <reisio> yes, yes you do :)
[19:42] <testusu> Ubuntu Edge has reached one million! http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge
[19:42] <reisio> one of many ssh clients you can use on Windows
[19:42] <reisio> testusu: yeah? What is it?
[19:42] <JLUC> does it require something on the faulty computer i want to connect to ?
[19:43] <reisio> JLUC: sshd needs to be running
[19:43] <testusu> reisio: "smartphone and desktop PC in one state-of-the-art device"
[19:43] <reisio> sudo service ssh start or something like that
[19:43] <reisio> testusu: so it's a device?
[19:43] <testusu> reisio: Yeah.
[19:44] <JLUC> ok i can try to launch that command line, but does it require to create some ssh key too ?
[19:44] <JLUC> i think there is some local ssh key there allready - i was requested it for some git access
[19:44] <testusu> reisio: Well, it might be a device in the future. It's getting crowdfunded right now.
[19:45] <reisio> JLUC: it shouldn't require it
[19:45] <reisio> JLUC: keys are nice, but you can use simple passwords, too
[19:45] <Curiousness> idk if something is wrong with my wifi detector thingy or my OS but if i have my laptop run for awhile the wifi connection will drop and will not reconnect until i restart it
[19:45] <reisio> you can get to that later after you disable the keyboard
[19:46] <JLUC> thank you for your answers reisio
[19:46] <JLUC> i will probably have some more questions when i go into that ssh solution
[19:49] <reisio> testusu: wow, these are going to be expensive
[19:49] <dkpi> And $1,000,000 for ubuntu edge http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge?c=gallery
[19:49] <Elfon> is real?
[19:51] <reisio> 33 million in five weeks?
[19:51] <reisio> that'd be impressive
[19:51] <Curiousness> idk if something is wrong with my wifi detector thingy or my OS but if i have my laptop run for awhile the wifi connection will drop and will not reconnect until i restart it
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> Curiousness, Can you post the card?
[19:52] <Curiousness> whats that..and how?
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> Curiousness, run lspci in the terminal and look for it if it's internal.
[19:52] <Curiousness> ok
[19:53] <Curiousness> Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)  is this it?
[19:53] <sethj> wilee-nilee, I just downloaded it from packages.ubuntu.com and after a little dependency haggling it installed just find \o/
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> sethj, Groovy, ;)
[19:55] <Curiousness> Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)  is this it?
[19:56] <Curiousness> should i do this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/245826/network-card-atheros-problem-ubuntu-12-10
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> Curiousness, Thats it take a looksie through here. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=+AR9485+  I se you found one.
[19:57] <Curiousness> so do as that guy says?
[19:57] <tdao> hi all.  ive installed a raid array in my home server.  dmraid shows 3 disks but no array.  in my bios the array shows functional.  any direction would be helpful and appreciated.  the forums are down still from being hacked :P
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> Curiousness, Not sure myself, I was just trying to get the info needed on the channel for general help.
[19:59] <varunendra> Curiousness, do you currently have a connection somehow? (cable, usb modem etc.)
[19:59] <Curiousness> right now i have a connection thru wifi
[20:00] <varunendra> Curiousness, please show us the output of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net" . Paste the output to pastebin and give us its link
[20:00] <varunendra> !pastebin | Curiousness
[20:00] <Curiousness> ok
[20:02] <Curiousness> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5901716/
[20:04] <hio> hi
[20:05] <varunendra> Curiousness, try the solution in the askubuntu link you found : http://askubuntu.com/questions/245826/network-card-atheros-problem-ubuntu-12-10
[20:05] <Curiousness> ok so how do i do that in the terminal?
[20:06] <Gugoies> Hello i am running Ubuntu 10.04 32bit and i am trying to allow my root account to connect to a system but it refuses i have already used passwd and look in the sshd file any help will be apperticheded
[20:07] <JLuc> as for now i can use kbd
[20:07] <varunendra> Curiousness, try this : echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf
[20:08] <JLuc> xinput output is here reisio : http://ubuntu.pastebin.fr/18079  -  what should i type now to stop kbd ?
[20:08] <JLuc> no
[20:08] <JLuc> yes : xinput output is here reisio : http://ubuntu.pastebin.fr/28079  -  what should i type now to stop kbd ?
[20:09] <varunendra> Curiousness, the above will create the .conf file with the option in it. Afterwards, do - "sudo modprobe -rfv ath9k" (this will disable the wifi, so you'll get disconnected). Then -- "sudo modprobe -v ath9k". It will load the driver again with that parameter.
[20:09] <Curiousness> ok thanks
[20:09] <varunendra> np :)
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> Gugoies, This a server?
[20:11] <Gugoies> wilee-nilee: yes but not an important one i am just playing around withe ubuntu to learn the it better
[20:11] <Gugoies> so i set this task for me :)
[20:12] <wilee-nilee> Gugoies, Cool, there is also the #ubuntu-server channel if needed.
[20:12] <Gugoies> aww awesome
[20:12] <Gugoies> i'll join that!
[20:12] <Gugoies> thanks a lot
[20:12] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[20:12] <Gugoies> i love linux :D
[20:12] <Gugoies> i also started learning python
[20:13] <caologia> alalla
[20:13] <caologia> using irc after a loooong time
[20:14] <JLuc> i'd say xinput --float 13 reisio ... would that require to be done each time i switch computer on or is it definitively "floated" ?
[20:14] <reisio> JLuc: it's easy enough to run each time X starts if necessary
[20:15] <JLuc> yes, as long as the kbd leaves me this ability :-/
[20:16] <theupside> can someone help me install a driver for my modem.   I'd like to send faxes with my unbuntu machine.  I believe I have a Conexant_0x14f12c06 modem based on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/ScanModem
[20:17] <reisio> faxes? :/
[20:17] <theupside> i know huh
[20:17] <reisio> what is this, the 19th century?
[20:17] <theupside> haha
[20:17] <JLuc> it works - good !
[20:18] <JLuc> and now i can play dices with all these little keys that cripple my table
[20:18] <JLuc> thanks a lot reisio !!!
[20:18] <reisio> :D
[20:19] <reisio> theupside: seriously, 167-year-old technology
[20:19] <theupside> i know i know
[20:19] <bekks> !notworking > bekks
[20:19] <theupside> ha
[20:19] <vader> I just bought an Ubuntu Edge (hopefully) Thanks for posting that link... who ever that was :)
[20:19] <JLuc> it reminds me when soldiers had to be amputated of a leg so as to be saved
[20:19] <reisio> vader: does that buy you one, or only the potential of buying one?
[20:19] <theupside> well if you can muster up the help i would appreciate it
[20:20] <reisio> JLuc: still happens a lot, of course
[20:20] <reisio> prosthetics business booms in war time
[20:21] <vader> reisio: If they meet thier $32m goal it will. If not i get a refund.
[20:21] <reisio> interesting
[20:21] <reisio> vader: how much was it?
[20:21] <vader> $600
[20:22] <vader> One day offer at that price point. The deal expires tomorrow.
 testusu: wow, these are going to be expensive
[20:22] <reisio> proved right again :p
[20:22] <reisio> probably because if they don't get donation momentum early on, they have a lower chance of making the goal
[20:22] <JLuc> tomorrow or one day afer the thing exists ?
[20:23] <theupside> anything???
[20:23] <goddard> what program does nautilus use to mount server drives?
[20:24] <goddard> sshfs isn't installed and neither is fuse
[20:24] <k1l_> goddard: gfvs ?
[20:24] <theupside> man tough crowd or is this normal treatment in the #ubuntu room
[20:24] <reisio> theupside: looking for anything?
[20:24] <k1l_> goddard: or samba. dont know which typ of server
[20:24] <theupside> yes reisio
[20:24] <reisio> or nfs
[20:25] <theupside> help with my modem
[20:25] <reisio> theupside: I've got some coffee
[20:25] <Gugoies> are pyton better for script then bash (newb here)
[20:25] <reisio> oops, no it's gone now
[20:25] <reisio> Gugoies: depends on the application, and programmer
[20:25] <IdleOne> theupside: if noone is around who knows the answer, noone will answer
[20:25] <Gugoies> what do you use ?
[20:25] <reisio> Gugoies: fundamentally either can do what the other does, in the end
[20:25] <Gugoies> ok
[20:26] <reisio> Gugoies: I use bash for simple things and python for less simple things / things other people will be involved with
[20:26] <Gugoies> i just feel more motivateted to learn python
[20:26] <goddard> k1l_: know where it mounts those drives?
[20:27] <goddard> k1l_: its sftp
[20:27] <reisio> 'mount' knows
[20:27] <RoflWaffle17> Hello
[20:27] <reisio> 'lo
[20:27] <theupside> or don't want to answer.... one would think the linux (ubuntu) community would be welcoming new comers
[20:28] <reisio> mmm, welcoming and knowing things, kinda different :)
[20:28] <theupside> maybe so
[20:28] <goddard> reisio: excellent
[20:28] <RoflWaffle17> Can someone help me? I keep getting an error upon start up (I'm using VMware Workstation with version 12.04) Saying "Could not apply stored configuration for monitors.monitor
[20:29] <goddard> reisio: it is mounted in a odd place
[20:29] <RoflWaffle17> I know this is a known problem...but seeing as the ubuntuforums.org is down...I didn't know where to turn :D
[20:29] <goddard> reisio: is that an ubuntu choice
[20:29] <reisio> goddard: depends, where's it mounted?
[20:29] <goddard> /run/user/username/gvfs/
[20:29] <RoflWaffle17> I don't believe so. I haven't changed any of the mounting locations....
[20:29] <reisio> RoflWaffle17: VirtualBox is a saner choice
[20:30] <reisio> goddard: that's probably a gvfs thing, on any distro
[20:30] <goddard> ahh
[20:30] <reisio> any distro that uses gvfs :) which is probably most
[20:31] <RoflWaffle17> I updated my nvidia drivers and everyting.
[20:31] <DreamPCs> Hey guys, what's going on?
[20:31] <RoflWaffle17> The weird thing is it just started happening last night....I've had this VM for about 2 weeks.
[20:32] <RoflWaffle17> So I don't know what went wrong and when it went wrong :(
[20:32] <DreamPCs> I have a question. Is there a relatively simply way to implement a duress password? A password that can be entered under duress to present a fake or decoy user account?
[20:32] <reisio> DreamPCs: while still showing your ordinary user at login?
[20:33] <DreamPCs> Exactly
[20:33] <reisio> DreamPCs: it'd be simpler, I believe, to just disable the user name showing at login, and have an entirely fake user+pass
[20:33] <rodrigograca31> I'm back :)
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> run for the hills
[20:33] <DreamPCs> I thought of that reisio and I think that may be the route I go. I was just hoping to be able to use the same account name to help thwart suspicion.
[20:34] <reisio> DreamPCs: yeah
[20:34] <rodrigograca31> I heard now that Ubuntu Forum was hacked.... :(
[20:34] <RoflWaffle17> Do you have any suggestions, Reisio?
[20:34] <DuncanNZ> rodrigograca31: yep..
[20:34] <reisio> DreamPCs: some encouraging stuff here: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22linux%22%20%22duress%20password%22
[20:34] <reisio> RoflWaffle17: besides choosing a proprietary vm system?
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> DreamPCs, YOurs or anothers?
[20:35] <reisio> rodrigograca31: hacked is a strong word
[20:35] <reisio> rodrigograca31: it was compromised
[20:35] <rodrigograca31> reisio: yes....
[20:35] <reisio> probably by someone who knew about a known exploit to vbulletin, but that is conjecture on my part
[20:35] <DreamPCs> Thanks, reisio, I read most of those links and it looks like the easiest way would be to use something like truecrypt to have a hidden volume.
[20:35] <DreamPCs> A wilee-nilee I'm sorry I don't understand your question.
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> thwart suspicion
[20:36] <Skaag> can I change individual colors in a theme? like the background color of an inactive tab?
[20:36] <dlpenguinlover> RoflWaffle17: You might need to reinstall VMWare tools as your graphics card (i assume you tried installing your nvidia drivers) is totally seperate from the VM. I'm not sure how to do that though as all of my ubuntu vm's are in virtualbox.
[20:36] <rodrigograca31> reisio: i jsut heard it some minutes ago, i need to read some articles about it :)
[20:36] <DreamPCs> Not my own suspicion, but other's suspicion if I'm forced to login under duress.
[20:36] <reisio> DreamPCs: well, that's for data more than just login
[20:36] <rodrigograca31> reisio: yes they said it was a vbulletin vuln :(
[20:36] <reisio> rodrigograca31: did they? Where?
[20:36] <Curiousness> where can i go to completly understand all the files and things on my computer directory for ubuntu os?
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> DreamPCs, Really you married? ;)
[20:37] <m_> milat
[20:37] <m_> hello
[20:37] <DreamPCs> I am, lol. I'm just a stickler for security.
[20:37] <reisio> Curiousness: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy.html
[20:37] <DWSR> DreamPCs: Have you tried TrueCrypt?
[20:37] <reisio> truecrypt isn't really what I'd use for encryption on a Unix system
[20:37] <DreamPCs> In the wake of all the recent (and not so recent) stuff going on in this country, I rather know I'm the only one with access to my data.
[20:38] <reisio> there are other ways to get dummy passwords
[20:38] <rodrigograca31> reisio: by "they" i mean the podcast i'm hearing and zdnet: http://www.zdnet.com/ubuntu-forums-hacked-1-82m-logins-email-addresses-stolen-7000018336/
[20:38] <DreamPCs> And DWSR I dabbled with it years ago but I'm by no means experienced with it.
[20:38] <m_> hello is there any girl
[20:38] <m_> ??
[20:38] <DreamPCs> lol a/s/l rofl
[20:38] <Pici> m_: This is a support channel, not a dating service.
[20:38] <bekks> m_: That doesnt matter in an ubuntu support channel.
[20:38] <reisio> rodrigograca31: does the podcast have someone involved on it, or are they just conjecturing?
[20:38] <reisio> m_: #girls
[20:39] <m_> ok do U know how to be incognito in web ???!!!
[20:39] <rodrigograca31> reisio: what kind of encryption (if any) vbullein uses?
[20:39] <DreamPCs> m_: Yes...
[20:40] <rodrigograca31> reisio: its a "linux news podcast"
[20:40] <DreamPCs> Something strange about that m_ character...
[20:40] <reisio> I doubt encryption was the issue
[20:40] <reisio> rodrigograca31: so you don't know :p
[20:40] <DreamPCs> Fortunately the passwords were protected by a salted hash but I believe user name and email addresses were plain text.
[20:41] <DreamPCs> That's one reason why I like to use gmail aliases.
[20:41] <rodrigograca31>  reisio: what kind of encryption (if any) vbullein uses?
[20:42] <reisio> DreamPCs: https://code.google.com/p/confused/source/browse/trunk/pam_confused/pam_confused.py?r=2 looks more like what you want
[20:42] <reisio> as you're likely already using PAM
[20:42] <DreamPCs> rodrigograca31: I literally copied and pasted your question into google and clicked the first link.
[20:42] <DreamPCs> http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forum/vbulletin-4/vbulletin-impex-import-system/216632-vbulletin-password-encryption
[20:42] <DreamPCs> reisio: Thanks, checking it out now.
[20:43] <reisio> DreamPCs: there's this other one, too, dunno what it uses: http://hg.ausiv.com/tedd
[20:43] <reisio> looks more complex, which could be either good or bad
[20:44] <rodrigograca31> DreamPCs: vbulletin uses MD5?
[20:44] <DreamPCs> Checking that out too, thanks.
[20:46] <reisio> rodrigograca31: if you haven't been using the same password on ubuntuforums.org for other things, you have nothing to worry about
[20:46] <RoflWaffle17> Reisio: have you any suggestions for my issue? I can't seem to figure it out for the life of me as I am relatively new to ubuntu/linux in genera,l.
[20:49] <reisio> RoflWaffle17: what's your issue?
[20:49] <dossah> start up trouble
[20:49] <RoflWaffle17> Every time at start up on my desktop I get the error of "Could not apply the stored config for monitors"
[20:50] <reisio> oh right
[20:50] <reisio> talk to #vmware
[20:50] <RoflWaffle17> I have had this VM for about a week, week and a half. And it just started doing it.
[20:50] <rodrigograca31> reisio: i know that...
[20:50] <reisio> rodrigograca31: good
[20:51] <rodrigograca31> reisio: but if they are using MD5 ..... the passwords will be decrypted very fast.... :(
[20:51] <dossah> I've installed Ubuntu 13.04 and evry time on startup my keyboard is disable. And this message appears "kvm disabled by the bios"
[20:51] <bekks> Passwords arent encrypted using MD5. MD5 is just a hash.
[20:54] <zykotick9> dossah: i'd guess, that's a kernel warning saying virtualization is disabled in bios... (or do you also have a KVM keyboard video mouse?)
[20:54] <SuperLag> RoflWaffle17: I have encountered that issue as well. I've never figured out a fix. :(
[20:54] <raymond_> I don't recall MD5 being reversible; the issue iirc was with collisions.
[20:54] <dossah> ok i see
[20:54] <Guest48540> καλησπέρα!
[20:55] <wilee-nilee> !ru
[20:55] <bekks> !gr | Guest48540
[20:55] <fuzzyBunny> i'm running 12.04 LTS and i'm having trouble with my flashplayer constantly crashing. On the flash website it says im running 11.2 but in my addons page it says im running 2 different versions of flash 11.2 and 12.1. If I try to disable either one flash does not work at all. Any suggestions?
[20:56] <garth_> I need help getting my Epson Stylus NX330 scanner to work (the printer part works fine).  I have installed the core and data package iscan-data_1.23.0-1_all.deb and iscan_2.29.1-5~usb0.1.ltdl7_i386.deb.  I also installed the network package iscan-network-nt_1.1.0-2_i386.deb.  Still simple scan says it can not scan, and locks up the printer when I try.
[20:56] <wilee-nilee> fuzzyBunny, there is no 12.1 are you sure?
[20:58] <fuzzyBunny> Yeah I'm at the Firefox Addons Page and the title of the version says Shockwave Flash 12.1 r720, maybe that's different than my flash player though for watching videos and such?
[21:00] <usr13> fuzzyBunny: 11.2 is what you should have. See: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/?&utsm=0350d39669c347c
[21:00] <wilee-nilee> fuzzyBunny, you been to github lightspark sound familiar?
[21:00] <usr13> fuzzyBunny: And it's not in the Addons Page
[21:01] <fuzzyBunny> Well I have that also yes.
[21:01] <rodrigograca31> bekks: by encrypted i meain hashed or what "you" want to call it :)
[21:01] <bekks> rodrigograca31: hashing is totally different from encrypting. And because of the difference, you cannot decrypt a MD5 hash.
[21:02] <fuzzyBunny> Yea I did try lightspark it didn't seem to work so well. My best thought was reverting to an old stable version but I can't seem to find one. So I would be grateful for a link to an old version, however, if there is another way to fix the problem I would be fine with that also.
[21:02] <fuzzyBunny> An old stable version of flashplayer
[21:03] <reisio> fuzzyBunny: it says you have two versions of Flash?
[21:03] <reisio> might be time to backup your profile directory and make a fresh one
[21:04] <todayman> I'm having trouble preseeding a RAID configuration.  I think (but am not sure) that the installer runs partman-auto-raid trying to create the RAID array before the disks that I want to use are detected / up.  Does this sound plausible?
[21:04] <keithzg> Hmmm no specific mentions on the Ubuntu Edge campaign page about the 3G frequencies supported. That's less than encouraging.
[21:04] <rodrigograca31> bekks: yes i also knwo that..... and when you say "you cannot"...... yes we can't but.... you know.... MD5 can be "brute forced" you probabli know that.....
[21:04] <fuzzyBunny> reisio: yea it's weird
[21:05] <bekks> rodrigograca31: Your . key is defective.
[21:06] <jrib> rodrigograca31: it's a salted md5 hash (so rainbow tables shouldn't be feasible)
[21:07] <usr13> fuzzyBunny: Does it say "Showckwave Flash 11.2" ?
[21:08] <rodrigograca31> jrib: i'm not talking about raindow tables (nobody uses that anymore....)
[21:08] <rodrigograca31> the salt is stored somewhere.... so they have it....
[21:08] <jrib> rodrigograca31: yes, of course.
[21:09] <AlcoLeVecchiPens> hi guys, what do u think about ubuntu edge?
[21:10] <fuzzyBunny> usr13: yes it does "Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202" exactly
[21:10] <jrib> !ot | AlcoLeVecchiPens
[21:10] <AlcoLeVecchiPens> ok i'm sorry
[21:11] <geri> hi how can i resolve this issue: failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com .... ?
[21:11] <gordonjcp> geri: fix your network connection
[21:12] <geri> gordonjcp: i can ping google.com
[21:12] <geri> and added the proxy is apt.conf
[21:12] <geri> in
[21:12] <gordonjcp> can you ping the repositories?
[21:12] <geri> yes
[21:12] <gordonjcp> is the proxy working correctly?
[21:14] <DreamPCs> Hey guys, anyone know how I can make my unity dash fullscreen?
[21:14] <geri> gordonjcp: yes
[21:14] <DreamPCs> I can't seem to find the link with the instructions.
[21:14] <DreamPCs> Nevermind I just found out.
[21:15] <DreamPCs> Thanks anyway.
[21:15] <geri> gordonjcp: should i be able to ping the http proxy?
[21:15] <HelloWorld321> how do I get gedit to exit always-on-top mode?
[21:15] <raymond_> rodrigograca31, the salt renders the rainbow tables useless.  They would have to regenerate the rainbow tables with the salt.
[21:15] <reisio> HelloWorld321: right-click on the top bar?
[21:16] <brontosaurusrex> HelloWorld321, what DE/WM?
[21:16] <HelloWorld321> that's it.  tx reisio
[21:16] <rodrigograca31> raymond_: as i said... i knwo that and nobody uses rainbow tables anymore......
[21:16] <HelloWorld321> (the default de/wm, I guess that's unity)
[21:16] <geri> gordonjcp: should i be able to ping the http proxy?
[21:16] <reisio> you can still use them for data that non-serious people generated :p
[21:17] <rodrigograca31> raymond_: even with pure MD5 would be faster without rainbow tables.....
[21:17] <gordonjcp> geri: yes
[21:18] <anonee> hello ubuntu! quick question: when I navigate to /usr/share/applications I can't see *.desktop files, even if I Ctrl+H, but they are listed in terminal... why?
[21:18] <savagejen> Hey, so... if I have a touch screen laptop, what would happen if I enabled this PPA? https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ppa
[21:18] <savagejen> :D
[21:19] <reisio> anonee: sounds like a bug to me, but probably one implemented on purpose
[21:19] <geri> gordonjcp: i can ping it via ip
[21:19] <geri> hm
[21:19] <reisio> savagejen: then you'd be able to install package from it
[21:19] <gordonjcp> geri: and can you ping the repos from the proxy?
[21:20] <savagejen> reisio, yes, but I mean, can I use any of the ubuntu tablet interfaces on my laptop
[21:20] <reisio> savagejen: I don't see why not
[21:20] <anonee> reisio: why do you think so?
[21:22] <anonee> reisio I mean about being implemented on purpose...
[21:22] <reisio> anonee: because hidden files start with periods, so someone made the conscious decision to hide .desktop files, and hide them well
[21:22] <reisio> they didn't just say 'treat as hidden', they said 'hide always'
[21:22] <geri> gordonjcp: i entered this in apt.conf http://codepaste.net/hxhfeo
[21:22] <anonee> reisio then it's not a bug?
[21:23] <gordonjcp> geri: try just http://
[21:23] <geri> how?
[21:23] <gordonjcp> geri: also I take it that is an anonymised domain name?
[21:23] <geri> gordonjcp: yes...why?
[21:24] <gordonjcp> geri: just wondering
[21:24] <anonee> reisio but it's still weird, because hidden files are not displayed in terminal unless you ls -a, but these are listed without the -a
[21:24] <geri> gordonjcp: still not found :(
[21:24] <reisio> anonee: a bug is anything that's imperfect, not just things that are accidental :p
[21:24] <gordonjcp> geri: sometimes people pastebin stuff that has example URLs in, and they actually literally have "blah.example.com" in their config ;-)
[21:24] <reisio> anonee: probably GNOME 3 upstream said "hey let's hide all dem files"
[21:24] <reisio> GNOME likes to hide things
[21:25] <geri> gordonjcp: sure but whats the problem now?
[21:25] <HelloWorld321> savagejen: it sounds like you've asked a theoretical question, and everybody agrees with you, but you'll have to report back and tell us how it turned out.
[21:26] <gordonjcp> geri: no idea
[21:27] <andres__> hola?
[21:27] <gordonjcp> geri: does it work without the proxy?
[21:27] <geri> gordonjcp: damm
[21:27] <geri> no
[21:27] <gordonjcp> geri: okay, maybe that repo is hosed
[21:27] <gordonjcp> can you browse to it?
[21:27] <geri> i cant connect to archive.ubuntu.com
[21:28] <geri> 0% (connecting archieve.ubuntu.com ...
[21:28] <geri> gordonjcp: when i run without a proxy: 0% (connecting archieve.ubuntu.com ...
[21:29] <gordonjcp> "archieve" ?
[21:29] <gordonjcp> is that really what it says or did you fat-finger it?
[21:29] <reisio> andres__: hi
[21:29] <geri> gordonjcp: thats the default thing...
[21:29] <reisio> probably big boned it
[21:29] <geri> gordonjcp: archive.ubuntu.com
[21:29] <gordonjcp> right
[21:30] <gordonjcp> geri: in your browser, can you see archive.ubuntu.com
[21:30] <geri> when i enter the proxy it says not found
[21:32] <wingnut2626> how do i decrypt my encrypted home folder on another machine when I have the old harddrive installed on it?
[21:32] <Albert-> Hello!
[21:32] <gordonjcp> geri: okay, so that's probably part of your problem
[21:32] <reisio> wingnut2626: not for nothing: http://www.google.com/search?q=how%20do%20i%20decrypt%20my%20encrypted%20home%20folder%20on%20another%20machine%20when%20I%20have%20the%20old%20harddrive%20installed%20on%20it%3F
[21:33] <gordonjcp> geri: forgetting all about proxies for now, can you visit archive.ubuntu.com in a web browser?
[21:33] <reisio> Albert-: hi
[21:33] <Albert-> how can i install sublime text editor on ubuntu?
[21:33] <Dr_willis> Albert-,  the webupd8 and omgubuntu blog sites have guides on that.
[21:33] <gordonjcp> Albert-: is it packaged in apt?
[21:33] <reisio> Albert-: http://askubuntu.com/questions/172698/how-do-i-install-sublime-text-2
[21:33] <aharoni> exit
[21:33] <Albert-> Dr_willis: yeah, I've read that, but I need to install the latest version. :(
[21:34] <Dr_willis> perhaps ask the sublime devs to make a proper .deb package.
[21:34] <Albert-> gordonjcp: i don't think so
[21:34] <geri> gordonjcp: i can ping it
[21:34] <geri> i dont have a browser here
[21:34] <gordonjcp> geri: I can't help you any more because you're not doing what I ask
[21:34] <geri> or whats the default browser which comes with ubuntu?
[21:34] <Dr_willis> dint really see how the latest version should differ from the older versions. use the newer dwnloads from their site
[21:34] <andres__> ALGUIEN Q HABLE ESPAÑOL?
[21:34] <geri> or whats the default browser which comes with ubuntu?
[21:35] <gordonjcp> !es | andres__
[21:35] <gordonjcp> geri: firefox
[21:35] <Albert-> Dr_willis: there's not much difference, but it shows an annoying popup saying Latest version is available... I was trying to turn that off
[21:35] <geri> gordonjcp: not installed here
[21:36] <geri> i have ubuntu 11.04
[21:36] <rodrigograca31> andres__: me?
[21:36] <gordonjcp> geri: are you on Ubuntu server, or something?
[21:37] <geri> gordonjcp: yes, no gui installed here
[21:37] <geri> how can i start the default browser using in xterm>
[21:37] <geri> ?
[21:39] <andres__> join #ubuntu-es
[21:39] <rodrigograca31> anyone here using irssi?
[21:39] <rodrigograca31> andres__: Hola!
[21:39] <gordonjcp> geri: hm, I don't know what more to suggest then
[21:39] <gordonjcp> geri: it sounds like you're struggling to get web access somehow
[21:40] <gordonjcp> rodrigograca31: lots of people, I suspect
[21:40] <CaptainPackard> Yo I already asked in #ubuntu-us, but do you guys do help here too?
[21:40] <geri> gordonjcp: no why?
[21:41] <Albert-> whoa
[21:41] <rodrigograca31> gordonjcp: yes... but i wanted to talk with someone that is using irssi....
[21:41] <Albert-> https://github.com/TCattd/sublime-text-bash-installer - this did the job
[21:41] <Albert-> thanks guys
[21:41] <scx> do you have this packages installed: gnu-fdisk, util-linux?
[21:42] <rodrigograca31> gordonjcp: or i will use /join irssi .....
[21:42] <gordonjcp> rodrigograca31: lots of people are using irssi
[21:42] <gordonjcp> rodrigograca31: why not ask your question, and see if anyone answers?
[21:43] <rodrigograca31> i can do that but i thought that would not be "the best place" to do it....
[21:43] <k1l_> !ot | rodrigograca31
[21:44] <err-or> rodrigograca31: so you asked 10 times if anyone is using irssi instead of asking your question once?
[21:45] <Strabo> Hello... anyone available to help with  mounting problems?
[21:45] <err-or> Strabo: what do you want to mount?
[21:45] <rodrigograca31> Ok, i want to know how to show the people on the channel on the right side....?
[21:45] <rodrigograca31> (on irssi)
[21:46] <Strabo> My ext3 and ext4 partitions used to auto-mount, and now they've stopped
[21:46] <scx> k1l_: is gnu-fdisk or  util-linux installed by default?
[21:47] <Strabo> I should add, I am using kubuntu, not ubuntu, but noone is answering me on the kubuntu channel
[21:47] <scx> Strabo: check /etc/fstab
[21:48] <Strabo> It doesn't show the partitions. Is there a way of rebuilding the fstab file, rather than manually editing it?
[21:48] <brontosaurusrex> Strabo, anything interesting in "dmesg | tail -100"
[21:48] <scx> Strabo: put result of this command on paste bin website: apt-cache policy gnu-fdisk util-linux
[21:49] <scx> Strabo: show us /etc/fstab and result of command: blkid
[21:49] <err-or> rodrigograca31: afaik its an script. i think you have to download it from irssi.org or somewhere and activate it.
[21:50] <Strabo> http://pastebin.com/WfDv0Lbr
[21:51] <jrib> rodrigograca31: you may want to check out weechat
[21:52] <scx> Strabo: what about your /etc/fstab and blikd?
[21:52] <Strabo> http://pastebin.com/yydKHQeG
[21:53] <Strabo> how do I use the blikd command?
[21:53] <rodrigograca31> jrib: it looks nice.....
[21:54] <err-or> Strabo: sudo blkid /dev/sda1 or sda2 and so on
[21:55] <scx> Strabo: just: sudo blkid
[21:56] <scx> err-or: without parametrs it will show info about all partitions
[21:56] <err-or> scx: yep, but it's also usage :D
[21:56] <Strabo> the last one is an external - it doesn't matter http://pastebin.com/yydKHQeG
[21:56] <enav> I came here to say Woooooooooooooooooooo    Ubuntu edge is out !!!!   http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge
[21:57] <Strabo> Gecko and VM are the ones giving me problems
[21:57] <mikhas> yeah, congrats on the campaign, Canonical folks
[21:57] <mikhas> I cant believe those numbers
[21:57] <mikhas> but very impressive indeed
[21:58] <enav> is raising $20K per minute
[21:58] <mikhas> if only all open-source projects could create such a pull and raise money that "easily"
[21:58] <mikhas> :-(
[21:58] <mikhas> yeah, other projects take *months* to raise 20k
[21:58] <8OWAAAHZ5> oi
[21:58] <enav> is about to reach 2 million in the next minutes
[21:59] <enav> maybe half our
[21:59] <k1l_> guys, can we stick to technical support in here? we have a #ubuntu-offtopic for chatter
[21:59] <mikhas> that open-source e-mail app from Yorba, Geary, couldn't raise 100k in one month either
[21:59] <enav> !join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:59] <reisio> I just hope the donation server isn't running vbulletin :) (too soon? :p)
[22:00] <enav> heh
[22:00] <k1l_> enav: / not !
[22:00] <akurilin> What is canonical expectation for what distro version you should be installing as a home user if you want the latest goodies and you don't really need production-grade stability?
[22:00] <akurilin> 13.04?
[22:00] <Dr_willis> err ubuntu edge is not 'out' its been announced. ;P   big differance.
[22:01] <k1l_> akurilin: yes
[22:01] <rodrigograca31> Ubuntu Edge? what is that? and $32,000,000 ..... what? lol
[22:01] <akurilin> k1l_, what happens once the distro expires? Is the expectation to go through an upgrade process?
[22:01] <Dr_willis> rodrigograca31,  a ubuntu phone..
[22:02] <jrib> akurilin: latest stable release is 13.04, yes
[22:02] <akurilin> k1l_, jrib, How likely is the upgrade to completely bork the OS and how likely are you to be better off reinstalling the latest version from scratch?
[22:02] <Dr_willis> rodrigograca31,  i will belive in it wheni actually see them available to buy. and i bet the Price willbe rather large
[22:02] <k1l_> akurilin: yes. after 9 month it looses support and you are asked to upgrade to the 13.10
[22:02] <jrib> akurilin: not very likely unless you do unsupported things (like lots of unofficial repositories not meant for your distro version)
[22:02] <k1l_> akurilin: upgrades work well. but backup is handy anyway
[22:02] <Strabo> sex: If it is relevant, they stopped auto-mounting after I had KDE cop out on me (couldn use it) - I reset it by changing the kde folder to kde.old so everything got reset
[22:03] <reisio> heh
[22:03] <akurilin> k1l_, jrib, I've hit some kernel panic during boot issues last time I did a the lts hardware enablement trick on 12.04 so I'm a bit suspicious of updates now..
[22:04] <Strabo> scx: If it is relevant, they stopped auto-mounting after I had KDE cop out on me (couldn use it) - I reset it by changing the kde folder to kde.old so everything got reset
[22:04] <Strabo> (mis-read your name - sowwy)
[22:04] <akurilin> jrib, would ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates potentially qualify as "likely to break upgrade"?
[22:05] <k1l_> akurilin: there is no guarantee :/
[22:05] <scx> Strabo: i still didnt see result of: sudo blkid
[22:05] <jrib> akurilin: I'd say more likely using it than not using it but I can't say how likely it would be
[22:05] <Strabo> I posted it
[22:06] <Strabo> http://pastebin.com/WuVxpbQ6
[22:06] <akurilin> k1l_, jrib, as a prevention measure, could one remove that PPA and nuke all the packages from it and then try an upgrade?
[22:06] <akurilin> or is that not really that effective?
[22:06] <Strabo> or maybe I didn't - my mistake!
[22:06] <jrib> akurilin: you could.  I would probably wait for it to cause an issue first and then try to sort it out
[22:07] <k1l_> akurilin: yes, ppas get disabled on upgrade anyway. but the ppa packages stay. and sometimes they break stuff
[22:07] <Strabo> VM and Gecko are the ones I need to get working again
[22:08] <choco_> hola
[22:08] <scx> Strabo: show me: cat /proc/mounts
[22:09] <Strabo> http://pastebin.com/TfXgE7NY
[22:11] <scx> Strabo: sudo fisk -l /dev/sdb
[22:12] <Strabo> sudo: fisk: command not found
[22:12] <scx> my mistake
[22:12] <scx> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[22:13] <scx> and: ls /media/
[22:13] <scx> Strabo: ^^
[22:13] <Strabo> http://pastebin.com/jrhaRZey
[22:14] <scx> Strabo: sudo su -
[22:14] <Strabo> ls /media/
[22:14] <Strabo>  had no output
[22:15] <scx> cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak_2013-07-23
[22:15] <scx> echo "" >> /etc/fstab
[22:15] <scx> echo "UUID=dae557c4-2983-431b-b79e-aa8746d11043 /media/VM    ext3    defaults        0 0" >> /etc/fstab
[22:15] <Strabo> hang on
[22:15] <scx> echo "UUID=94a3dc0d-b8a1-4081-8df5-78b3fd8d0692 /media/Gecko ext4    defaults        0 0" >> /etc/fstab
[22:15] <Strabo> is echo a command, or do I repeat something youǘe got above?
[22:16] <scx> mkdir /media/VM; mkdir /media/Gecko
[22:16] <scx> Strabo: echo is command
[22:17] <scx> you need to add this - http://wklej.org/hash/1099fe36c4b/ to /etc/fstab
[22:17] <rodrigograca> jrib: weechat looks nice.... :)
[22:17] <Strabo> OK - but I already have VM and Gecko as folders in /media
[22:18] <scx> Strabo: you said that ls /media/ show you empty directory
[22:18] <JasonGriffee> How do I enable OpenGL in ubuntu 12.04?
[22:18] <simonwaters> updated 12.04 virtual box which had been down for a few weeks, lightdm now stopped immediately after starting, Xorg reports it can't find screens. There are a couple of bugs like this all squashed long ago, so trying to work out if I'm seeing old bug and the fixes are missing, or if this is a new bug. This is similar - I see the setpgid error  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/799069
[22:18] <scx> JasonGriffee: install GPU driver?
[22:18] <Strabo> The command didn't show me anything.... but I can see the folders there in Dolphin
[22:19] <JasonGriffee> scx, installed one from amd
[22:19] <scx> Strabo: do you add this lines to /etc/fstab? put your /etc/fstab
[22:20] <Strabo> Will it let me edit it in Kate?
[22:21] <Strabo> I haven done the commands you listed above yet, because I want to be clear on what Iḿ doing before I start making changes
[22:21] <scx> JasonGriffee: glxinfo | grep -E "((glx)|(direct))"
[22:22] <scx> Strabo: if you want to automount partitions you need to add entries to /etc/fstab
[22:22] <scx> Strabo: you can edit this file in Kate
[22:22] <scx> Strabo: sudo kate /etc/fstab
[22:22] <Strabo> cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak_2013-07-23
[22:22] <Strabo> echo "" >> /etc/fstab
[22:22] <Strabo> echo "UUID=dae557c4-2983-431b-b79e-aa8746d11043 /media/VM    ext3    defaults        0 0" >> /etc/fstab
[22:22] <Strabo> echo "UUID=94a3dc0d-b8a1-4081-8df5-78b3fd8d0692 /media/Gecko ext4    defaults        0 0" >> /etc/fstab
[22:23] <FloodBot1> Strabo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:23] <Strabo> I enter those four lines in the terminal, correct?
[22:23] <JasonGriffee> scx, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5902111/
[22:24] <MidnightNinja> can anyone look at this link and tell me if the steps for the 64 bit installation look right?
[22:24] <MidnightNinja> http://linuxg.net/install-new-nvidia-drivers-nvidia-319-17-on-ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail/
[22:24] <MidnightNinja> after I stop lightdm, the computer goes to black screen with blinking cursor
[22:24] <Strabo> scx: is there anyway to get the system to rebuild the fstab file, rather than me editing it (which makes me nervous, frankly)
[22:24] <Strabo> It was working before
[22:25] <scx> Strabo: yes, just run this commands
[22:25] <Strabo> I don't know how it got broken, but I thought normally ext partitions were automounted anyway
[22:25] <scx> Strabo: it was probably mounted by KDE
[22:26] <scx> Strabo: like a pendrive or cdrom
[22:27] <Strabo> Ok.... do the echo commands add those lines to the file, or do I need to go in and edit after running them?
[22:27] <igw3> guys ma ubuntu OS does not fully shutdown..tried all i know still now shutting down fully
 after I stop lightdm, the computer goes to black screen with blinking cursor < yeah, thats ok, the installer should run with no X
[22:28] <scx> Strabo: you can check this file (and put on paste bin) for sure
[22:29] <scx> JasonGriffee: you have installed AMD drivers
[22:29] <scx> JasonGriffee: do you have x86_64 system?
[22:29] <JasonGriffee> yes
[22:29] <JasonGriffee> scx, yes
[22:29] <mattkruse> !back
[22:29] <scx> JasonGriffee: maybe you have to install x86 libraries for x86 games
[22:29] <Strabo> cp: cannot create regular file ‘/etc/fstab.bak_2013-07-23’: Permission denied
[22:30] <JasonGriffee> scx, how?
[22:30] <clemens> Hello! Has anybody some advices to extend battery life? i have 95 % left and ubuntu (12.4 LTS 64bit)shows me 1:54  - just watching youtube. i also use jupter to extend a battery life. on my windows it usually runs 3h
[22:31] <theubuntunerd> hey
[22:31] <theubuntunerd> is there a way to get chrome on ubuntu?
[22:32] <Strabo> ok... I edited it in Kate Iḿ going to restart and see if it worked (or if I broke anything)
apt-get install chromium
[22:33] <theubuntunerd> thanks!
[22:34] <xangua> !info chromium-browser | not "chromium"  igw3
[22:35] <igw3> thanks of that correction ..noted i totally forgot that -browser wud be der <ubottu>
[22:36] <igw3> guys ma ubuntu OS does not fully shutdown..tried all i know still now shutting down fully
[22:36] <scx> Strabo: did you run?: sudo su -
[22:37] <ktk2> I've set update manager to update Ubuntu to any new version, any normal release (not only LTS). But in Ubuntu 12.10 it still doesn't offer me the version 13.04, even if I enter do-release-upgrade in terminal. How should I proceed?
[22:37] <Strabo> scx: thank-you for all your help - we're up and running again!
[22:38] <Prufrock> Hi all.
[22:38] <fishcooker> what kind of defacement "Reports of defacement" on ubuntuforum.org?
[22:38] <fishcooker> LoL
[22:38] <Jetfire> hello ,since the ubuntu forums are down:can i ask someone to give me a hint HOW to move the top taskbar to bottom?
[22:39] <Prufrock> I have this really annoying problem of the system failing to "wake up" again after a Hibernate/Suspend.
[22:39] <Prufrock> I don't know how to diagnose it. Any help, please?
[22:40] <scx> Strabo: yw
[22:41] <clemens> Hello! Has anybody some advices to extend battery life? i have 95 % left and ubuntu (12.4 LTS 64bit)shows me 1:54  - just watching youtube. i also use jupter to extend a battery life. on my windows it usually runs 3h
[22:42] <raymond_> clemens, video card, CPU & laptop brand?
[22:42] <k1l_> clemens: with Youtube? flash is very very inefficient on that part
[22:43] <W3ird_N3rd> clemens, try lesswatts.org in the internet archive
[22:44] <W3ird_N3rd> seems down right now, but had some good tips
[22:44] <brontosaurusrex> clemens, perhaps forcing youtube in html5 could make some difference
[22:44] <Guest90415> Hi all - Recently updated to 12.04 from 10.04.. I've found that the keybind Mod4+p (windowskey + p) is now being used to toggle between displays.. Any idea how to remove this default keybind? (its not in keyboard shortcuts).
[22:45] <Guest90415> name terry
[22:45] <W3ird_N3rd> clemens, some more suggestions - if you have Intel integrated graphics, get the latest kernel as the driver is continually developed and gets more power saving features
[22:45] <W3ird_N3rd> if you have AMD/nVidia graphics, try the closed-source driver, it has more features for power saving
[22:45] <Guest90415> NICK terry
[22:45] <Guest90415> ./sigh <- irc newb
[22:46] <clemens> raymond_, ATI HD 4000 series integrated (active) and ATI HD 7730M (deactivated) and an Intel Core i7-3612QM and the band is a Dell
[22:46] <k1l_> Guest90415: //nick nick
[22:46] <k1l_> sorry, only on /
[22:47] <raymond_> clemens, try the preperietary drivers if you haven't installed them yet.  My laptop has an Ati HD4670 in it and it took me from about 1:45 to close to 3h battery life.
[22:47] <clemens> k1l_, i don't think that flash using so much resources that it run 1h fewer
[22:48] <k1l_> clemens: i do
[22:48] <terry__> thanks k1l
[22:48] <Prufrock> Hello all
[22:48] <raymond_> terry__, .. hmm.. it's active on my box as well (13.10), just tried it. (Win+P)
[22:49] <clemens> raymond_, do you mean the amd driver?
[22:49] <Prufrock> Please help me, I keep having a kernel panic quite often, this is probably the 3rd time in under an hour.
[22:49] <raymond_> clemens, yeah.
[22:49] <W3ird_N3rd> clemens, try entering the HTML5 trial: www.youtube.com/html5
[22:49] <Prufrock> A kernel panic as a result of not syncing, that is.
[22:49] <Prufrock> k1l, could you help me please?
[22:50] <terry__> pufrock - dump your syslog into a pastebin
[22:51] <raymond_> clemens, and after you install it.. try the workaround I mentioned in comment #11 on this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/988713
[22:51] <lauratika> i create a gpg key, when i export the key i guess that is my public key, what part i have to backup in case i lost my key? the public one?
[22:52] <jrib> lauratika: you should back up both
[22:52] <raymond_> lauratika, you'll want to back up your private key too.  Just make sure you store it in a location you trust fully. ^_^
[22:53] <lauratika> but where is the privare key??
[22:53] <W3ird_N3rd> clemens, also !google for sched_mc_power_savings (not sure if that's default yet, would be nice) and consider disabling any 3D-desktop
[22:54] <W3ird_N3rd> also use laptop_mode
[22:54] <lauratika> i mean where is on my system so i can do and enrcyption of that keyp and upload it to my one account?
[22:54] <raymond_> lauratika, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5587513/gnupg-encryption-how-to-export-private-secret-asc-key-to-decrypt-gpg-files-i
[22:55] <raymond_> that just uses the gpg tool, so it should work in the linux shell too
[22:57] <Prufrock> Could anyone please help me diagnose, and hopefully fix, my kernel panich issue?
[22:58] <reisio> kernel panache would be nice
[22:59] <Prufrock> reisio, It would great if you could help me instead of poking fun.. :\
[22:59] <AloNorma_xd> enter # _-Web
[22:59] <reisio> I can't do both? :/
[23:00] <reisio> Prufrock: what's it say?
[23:00] <AloNorma_xd> enter #_-Web
[23:00] <Prufrock> reisio, what does what say?
[23:00] <reisio> the text around the panic notice
[23:00] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[23:00] <AloNorma_xd> enter #_-Web
[23:01] <Jetfire> so ,what about my question?how to move top taskbar from top to bottom side of my ubuntu?
[23:01] <Prufrock> reisio, what happens is that it basically switches into command-line mode and I don't really understand anything there.
[23:01] <Jetfire> 12.04 ubuntu here.
[23:01] <lauratika> raymond_: now that both keys private a public are backep up what you rekon should be the best way to have them stor in ubuntu one?
[23:01] <Jetfire> 12*
[23:01] <Jetfire> 1
[23:02] <xangua> Jetfire: you don't, in unity at least
[23:03] <Jetfire> im not speaking for unity, i want to move top taskbard to bottom.
[23:03] <xangua> Jetfire: you are talking about...
[23:03] <dekan> Hello.
[23:03] <sunshinejay> hello guys, is ther any channel for ubuntu beginners?
[23:03] <Jetfire> Im confused ,people says that I can move it down but forums are down and i cant read :)
[23:04] <reisio> sunshinejay: could start here
[23:04] <raymond_> lauratika, personally, I wouldn't back up my private key to any cloud service..
[23:04] <dekan> Does anyone know if someone has released statistics of how much donations Ubuntu Edge has per time? I did some statistical analysis, results are pretty interesting.
[23:04] <Diamondcite> sunshinejay: No, beginners channel, however, if you are lost just ask in this channel and someone will volunteer to help
[23:04] <sjmikem> Any quick gotchas why no_root_squash might not work on nfs4 export on RR?
[23:05] <th0r> Jetfire: are you using unity? Xfce? Lxde? Gnome?
[23:05] <sunshinejay> tnx guys for your response
[23:05] <raymond_> Ostensibly, you will be using this private key to encrypt & sign information.. :| if someone breaches your account, they can get to it.  At least if you really want to store it there you should look at something like encfs where you can keep it in an encrypted folder.
[23:06] <th0r> !patience
[23:06] <lauratika> truecrypt perhaps
[23:06] <lauratika> ?
[23:06] <sunshinejay> I'm new to ubunt i would like to know how to install it from scratch
[23:06] <Prufrock> anyone? please?
[23:06] <goddard> running into a problem using gvfs mounts over command line with vim
[23:06] <goddard> it is killing the permissions
[23:06] <goddard> should i use sshfs instead?
[23:06] <reisio> Prufrock: what's up?
[23:07] <reisio> sunshinejay: how to install Ubuntu?
[23:07] <Prufrock> reisio, ?
[23:07] <sunshinejay> reisio, yes
[23:07] <Prufrock> reisio, Kernel panic issue?
[23:07] <reisio> sunshinejay: how'd you install the OS you're using right now?
[23:07] <reisio> Prufrock: the text it outputs will be relevant
[23:07] <th0r> Prufrock: you haven't given us much to work with
[23:07] <gnufs> is there an ubuntu edge channel?
[23:08] <raymond_> lauratika, yeah, I'd definitely encrypt it with a _very_ secure password or better yet a randomly generated key that you keep on a USB stick or something.  Just to be extra cautious.
[23:08] <reisio> gnufs: /msg alis list *ubunt*
[23:08] <gnufs> btw it's at 2 mil!
[23:08] <Prufrock> th0r, exactly. If you could help me diagnose it. For instance, what to look for in the system log, etc. etc.
[23:08] <reisio> lauratika: truecrypt is good for cross platform, but that's about where it ends
[23:09] <sunshinejay> reisio, currntly i'm using debian not ubuntu
[23:09] <dekan> I did statistical analysis guys, at this time, recorded from 00:00 to 01:00, average mean of $/min based on indiegogo is around 4500-5500 $/min with not much of standard deviation. Can anyone else do statistics tommorrow with me, since two independent measurements and calculations are better, cause I probably have some relative error. THis is only for today, I want to see how rate of $/min will accelerate or deccalerate over time, and po
[23:09] <dekan> ssibly make a mathematical model to calculate if we will get to 32 000 000 $.
[23:09] <reisio> someone worth $500,000,000 using crowdsourcing, that's classic
[23:10] <gnufs> reisio: "Maximum channel output reached"
[23:10] <th0r> Prufrock: you could start with when it occurs. What software are you trying to run? What are you trying to do at the time?  Don't know about the others, but my crystal ball isn't working tonite
[23:10] <reisio> gnufs: hrmm?
[23:10] <reisio> sunshinejay: Ubuntu installs roughly the same as Debian
[23:10] <SonikkuAmerica> dekan: That could go to #ubuntu-discuss, but it might be better suited for #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:10] <raymond_> Prufrock, what kind of messages do you get from dmesg?  Also, check /var/log/kern.log
[23:10] <draconus2> dekan what are you on?
[23:10] <reisio> dekan: apparently the price goes up after today, so there would be at least that other factor
[23:10] <usr13> sunshinejay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRIWW4Li4Uo
[23:11] <dekan> draconus2: Excuse me?
[23:11] <gnufs> reisio: /msg alis list *ubunt* returns too many results
[23:11] <reisio> gnufs: change *ubunt* to something more restricted, then
[23:11] <sunshinejay> ssr13, thanks i'll check that
[23:11] <reisio> like *ubunt*edg* or *ubunt*touch*
[23:12] <dekan> reisio: Thanks for the info.
[23:12] <lauratika> reisio: so what you rekon better than truecrypt
[23:12] <reisio> dm-crypt/luks
[23:14] <sunshinejay> reisio, ive never intalled linux ever since this is companys OS
[23:14] <reisio> sunshinejay: you ever installed any OS?
[23:14] <lauratika> reisio: does it have a GUI??
[23:14] <Prufrock> raymond_, That problem is that I can't really undstand what is written in these files.
[23:14] <Prufrock> understand*
[23:15] <reisio> lauratika: probably, dunno
[23:15] <sunshinejay> reisio, i installed windows but no linux
[23:15] <reisio> sunshinejay: it's about the same as installing Windows, too
[23:16] <reisio> you pick where to format/install, you choose a couple things,
[23:16] <raymond_> Prufrock, can you post the output to pastebin, and then link it here?  we can take a look at it here.  Also, is it reproducible?  Does it occur when you try to do something specific (like connect a device, run a program etc)?
[23:16] <sunshinejay> ok, will try to install later
[23:16] <antonio_> Hey folks..
[23:17] <sunshinejay> reisio. thanks
[23:17] <antonio_> I'm trying to get hangouts on air to work with ubuntu..because I have a webinar to do tomorrow.  it worked like a week ago now it doesn't work...
[23:17] <reisio> antonio_: something changed
[23:17] <antonio_> Its telling me "Install the Hangouts Plugin to get started"
[23:17] <antonio_> I install it, and nothing happens
[23:17] <Prufrock> raymond_, I'm not sure about the reproducible part, because all I was doing was basically using firefox or watching some Youtube.. etc. The usual stuff.
[23:17] <reisio> antonio_: install? Wasn't it already installed?
[23:18] <antonio_> reisio: I thought it was since it was already working
[23:19] <raymond_> Prufrock, ok.  What version of ubuntu are you on?
[23:19] <Prufrock> th0r, Could you plz remind me of the command to use for sending the output that specific command to a text file?
[23:19] <antonio_> hmm...found it out..
[23:20] <reisio> gj
[23:20] <antonio_> it works on chrome..just not on firefox
[23:20] <Prufrock> raymond_, 13.04, and I  recently upgraded to it from 12.04.
[23:20] <kostkon> th0r, e.g.  yourcommand > ~/Desktop/output.txt
[23:20] <kostkon> oops
[23:20] <Prufrock> kostkon, Thanks bro. :)
[23:20] <kostkon> Prufrock, e.g.  yourcommand > ~/Desktop/output.txt
[23:20] <th0r> :-)
[23:20] <kostkon> :)
[23:21] <alzee> hello
[23:21] <reisio> 'lo
[23:21] <alzee> there are so few people here
[23:22] <reisio> yes indeed
[23:22] <alzee> the linux mint  channel is full of people...
[23:22] <alzee> this place is sut abandoned Q-Q
[23:22] <reisio> yup
[23:22] <raymond_> Prufrock, Let's make sure you're on the most recent kernel.  What does uname -r say?
[23:22] <dr_willis> !ask
[23:22] <alzee> o-o
[23:23] <Prufrock> raymond_, 3.8.0-26-generic
[23:24] <Prufrock> raymond_, Also, here's the whole output of dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5902255/
[23:25] <raymond_> Prufrock, so.. it's really a kernel panic right.  Your entire system hardlocks and you're forced to reboot?
[23:26] <Prufrock> raymond_,  yup. That's what happens. Even "raising the elephants" won't work.
[23:27] <raymond_> Prufrock, hmm.. we'll have to dig deeper.. Open up /var/log/kern.log in a text editor (like gedit or something).  You'll see dates and times on the left column.. try to remember about when the panic occured, and paste the lines with those time into pastebin.
[23:30] <draconus2> hm... what could be wrong with my nginx? kernel: php5-fpm[21665]: segfault at 7fff06e94ff8 ip 000000000066c6fb sp 00007fff06e95000 error 6 in php5-fpm[400000+79e000]
[23:31] <draconus2> getting lots of that in kern.log and my box even froze two times today... might be related due to the flood of that error?
[23:31] <bjoswald> How do I keep Ubuntu from maximizing screen brightness when I log in?
[23:31] <bjoswald> (I am not using a laptop)
[23:34] <sunshinejay> hello guys, any link on how to install ubuntu server?
[23:37] <histo> sunshinejay: you download the iso burn it and install
[23:37] <dekan> sunshinejay: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/install-ubuntu-server
[23:37] <Awaken> put disc in, hit enter? :P
[23:37] <histo> !server | sunshinejay
[23:37] <mikodo> sunshinejay, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/install-ubuntu-server
[23:37] <Awaken> its really easy :)
[23:38] <sunshinejay> thanks, but i can't find iso for 32bit version
[23:38] <mikodo> oops
[23:38] <Awaken> nothing to worry about
[23:38] <Awaken> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/thank-you?distro=server&bits=32&release=lts
[23:38] <sunshinejay> can som1 give me the link for 32bit version
[23:38] <Awaken> ^^
[23:39] <Aprel> Hi. How many GB is a fresh ubuntu install (say 13.04)?
[23:39] <Awaken> but if the hardwares 64bit you probably want the 64bit version
[23:39] <histo> sunshinejay: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/thank-you?distro=server&bits=32&release=lts
[23:39] <sunshinejay> histo, thanks
[23:39] <Hilikus> is it possible to configure ubuntu to use twinView for a dual screen setup ONLY when i turn the second monitor on, but to single when i turn the monitor off? i don't use it all the time so right now things might appear in the second monitor when it is off
[23:39] <Hilikus> i'm using an nvidia card with the binary drivers
[23:41] <Aprel> Hilikus: what kind of connections? HDMI? VGA?
[23:42] <Hilikus> Aprel: the first (always on) is dvi, the secondary is VGA
[23:43] <lord_murcielago> hallo
[23:43] <lord_murcielago> hello
[23:43] <lord_murcielago> hola
[23:43] <dr_willis> Hilikus:  it dosent wirk that way that ive ever seen
[23:43] <lord_murcielago> testing ubuntu irc
[23:44] <Awaken> lol
[23:44] <Prufrock> raymond_, Hi, I'm back.
[23:44] <Guest60441> YAY PRUFROCK IS BACK
[23:45] <Aprel> Hilikus: Not sure, but I doubt that's possible. Skimming the WP article on VGA, I don't see any feedback to the garphics card that could tell it when the screen is on or off.
[23:45] <Hilikus> Aprel: that's what i thought
[23:45] <Hilikus> :S
[23:45] <raymond_> Prufrock, did it panic again? :(
[23:46] <pepper_chico> ok guys, I've done my duty, I've pledged for an UbuntuEdge
[23:46] <Prufrock> raymond_, I couldn't determine the exact time of the crash. But I also have another, probably related problem, of the system failing to come back up after a hibernate/suspend, and here's part of the kernel.log at that time: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5902292/
[23:46] <Aprel> Hilikus: HDMI *might* be able to give that feedback, but even if it does, I don't haven't heard of nVidia drivers supporting that.
[23:46] <poz> hey guys, i have a problem! my desktop is scrolling
[23:47] <poz> like it does not all fit on the screen
[23:47] <poz> like what is up with that?
[23:48] <usr13> poz: What is the screen size now?   xrandr
[23:48] <poz>  i think it fixed it, it was a display res problem
[23:48] <poz> but the unity dash still takes up the entire screen instead of just the corron
[23:49] <poz> corner*
[23:49] <Aprel> Is there any way to boot from an Ubuntu live cd, make some configurations in the ram environment (like install new software packages, change a few settings, etc.), and then "burn" that new environment to a disc and be able to boot from that read-only?
[23:53] <lauratika> rules | lord_murcielago	+
[23:54] <poz> not many people here today eh?
[23:54] <valroadie> OK! So, I don't want anything about, "It is HIGHLY advised against!" I know I know ok? This is linux, I want to manipulate it! ;) NOW! I want to run terminal in root, but EVERYTIME I start it, I want it in root. No sudo su, sudo, gksu or anything. Is there a way to do this? I also prefer somethign that doesn't require a pass when it is started as that is defeating the purpose of what I want to do.
[23:55] <Prufrock> raymond_, Okay, it just did now. :) I got a picture this time: http://imgur.com/tSUkF2i I hope it helps.. :(
[23:56] <raymond_> Prufrock, just a sec here I'll have to deblur it ^_^
[23:56] <usr13> valroadie: What do you have against passwords and sudo?
[23:56] <Prufrock> raymond_, Take your time :)
[23:56] <valroadie> usr13, they are waste of my typing time ;)
[23:58] <usr13> valroadie: You must do very little if typing passwords are such a significant part of your time.
[23:58] <usr13> valroadie: You should reconsider your stand on this issue.
[23:59] <valroadie> My stand is, linux is my playground and I want to play in the restricted zone! haha. Why isn't this easy? Noone will tell me how to do it or if it is even POSSIBLE. I feel like I am the only one who dares to do this lol
[23:59] <Prufrock> raymond_, also, here's what I think is the relevant part of the kernel.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5902330/
[23:59] <gordonjcp> valroadie: what are you trying to do?
[23:59] <Aprel> usr13: haha, valroadie already said he knows it's not ubuntu-advised.
[23:59] <valroadie> gordonjcp, trying to run term in root when it starts EVERYTIME. no sudo su, no sudo, just root when it starts