[13:03] <Toa> Hello! I use a version of Xubuntu 13.10 on July 22. I have the following problem: Indicator plugin does not work correctly. Adjusting the sound is not active. Screenshot - http://rghost.ru/47590052/image.png
[13:05] <elfy> Toa: yea - same thing here - just reporting it actually
[13:08] <Toa> What should I do?
[13:09] <elfy> mark the bug as affecting you - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1203739
[13:12] <elfy> Toa: possibly that will get marked as a duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1202932
[14:14] <ochosi> elfy: is it possible that gtk2 support is finally gone for indicators? it has been fading away for the last few releases...
[14:14] <elfy> I'm guessing it's something like that 
[14:15] <elfy> still got the network one left :)
[14:17] <ochosi> yeah, that's really a bad sign though...
[14:17] <ochosi> network is the one we need least, cause it falls back to trayicon if there's no indicator support
[14:19] <elfy> not having the vol one is a pita for people - not me - my sound card stays at about 80% and I control volume from amp
[20:13] <knome> damn, elfy's gone
[20:24] <Unit193> forestpiskie isn't.
[20:24] <knome> yeah, but fp's not going to answer me at this time
[22:31] <pleia2> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/07/xubuntu-stickers-go-on-sale
[22:31] <knome> pleia2, seen
[22:31] <pleia2> o
[22:31] <knome> pleia2, you're supposed to be away!
[22:31] <pleia2> I am, that's how I missed the news!
[22:32] <pleia2> I am in jono's community manager thingy
[22:32] <knome> lol
[22:32] <knome> how is it?
[22:32] <pleia2> it's good, but now he's talking about community managers reporting to bosses, so I am napping (ircing)
[22:32] <knome> lol
[22:33] <Unit193> "Community manager" always seems like a weird title.
[22:33] <pleia2> there actually are some concrete strategies coming out of the community manager movement that are good
[22:34] <knome> dare to elaborate?
[22:34] <pleia2> things like having a mission statement and vision so people can get excited about contributing, then breaking down tasks into 1/2 day items so new folks can get them done
[22:35] <knome> mhm
[22:35] <pleia2> we already do a fair amount of this, breaking down tasks so they aren't so scary
[22:36] <pleia2> but there are projects where I do it less, can improve a lot
[22:37] <knome> sure
[22:37] <knome> but does the community manager really do that?
[22:37] <knome> or is it his job?
[22:37] <knome> does jono cut up tasks to smaller ones?
[22:37] <pleia2> some
[22:37] <knome> or is he just telling others to do it
[22:38] <pleia2> strategy development, project management, making sure tools are there for projects and accountability
[22:38] <knome> sure, but that's not "breaking down tasks"
[22:38] <knome> but yeah, i agree
[22:38] <knome> it can be a good thing
[22:38]  * pleia2 pays attention again
[22:38] <knome> and i'm pretty sure jono is doing a good job - from his employers POV