[00:13] arosales: found what's happening - it works if you use the --upload-tools open. not using that option causes a code path to be run which resets the current client credentials. this didn't matter previously but does now [00:13] s/open/option [00:15] arosales: ping me when you are back online and we can discuss a resolution [00:15] wallyworld, and --upload-tools requires building from source? [00:15] yes [00:15] wallyworld, no go for OSCON [00:15] yeah [00:15] i can work on a fix [00:16] but i guess that means cutting a new release [00:16] wallyworld, we can't have charm school attendees building from source :-/ Kind of takes away from the juju simplicity [00:16] agreed [00:16] and a bug fix is in the same realm too :-/ [00:17] * arosales not sure how difficult it would be to do a 1.11.3.1 release with just your bug fix . . . [00:17] i guess a bug fix is more palatable though [00:18] that should be possible [00:19] wallyworld, but I guess you need to find the issue on the cred reset too [00:20] arosales: i found what's causing it - not uploading tools triggers a code path that resets the creds. it didn't matter before but does now. i just need to figure out a fix [00:21] wallyworld, ok. I'll leave you too that and we can sync with dave when he comes on line with possible solutions [00:21] arosales: sounds good. i have a simple fix i can do, just need to think if it's the best way [00:23] fwiw I filed bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1203908 [00:23] <_mup_> Bug #1203908: 1.11.3 does not bootstrap on HP Cloud [00:32] wallyworld, I am going to step away from the keyboard for a few, but I'll check back online later [00:32] ok [01:16] hello... who's awake? [01:17] davecheney: morning [01:17] axw: hey [01:17] hi axw [01:17] thumper: hiya [01:17] so, dependencies really grind my gears [01:17] axw: do you know duflu from elsewhere? [01:18] i'm tired to seeing jtv have to ask for the bot to be updated [01:18] thumper: heh :) yes, we worked together at Micromuse and IBM [01:18] i'm going to prpose a script that does the checkout for it [01:18] so the bot checks out the code [01:18] runs the script which gets the deps [01:18] job done [01:18] heh... if I hadn't just gone to the gym I'd be worried... I got the shakes in my hands [01:18] amusing to watch [01:19] first workout in two weeks due to illness [01:19] felt good [01:19] thumper: man flu, or real flu [01:19] ? [01:19] wasn't flu [01:20] just a persistent cough and fever [01:20] kid flu passed on [01:20] can't work out coughing your guts out [01:20] however managed the entire workout without one single cough [01:20] so I feel over it now [01:21] sgtm [01:21] So, I want to fix a bug I found yesterday in juju-core. Can someone give me a brief walkthrough of creating bugfix/feature branches on LP? [01:21] axw: happy to [01:21] but I need to grab a smoothie first [01:21] axw: gimmie 5 minutes? [01:21] nps [01:21] thanks [01:21] axw: then we can do a google hangout? [01:21] axw: are you set up for hangouts? [01:21] thumper: sounds good [01:22] can I get in on this one ? [01:22] thumper: should I have G+ on my Canonical account? [01:22] or at least listen in [01:22] i dunno if this laptop has a mike [01:22] axw: yep [01:22] davecheney: yes happy to have you listen in [01:22] I'll get it set up while you get your drink [01:22] cool [01:22] it may not work [01:22] axw: also make sure you have your ssh key up on LP to start [01:22] this coworking space has the smallest internet known to man [01:22] or wait if you need a walk through on that [01:22] yeah that's all done [01:22] ack [01:22] back in 5 [01:23] davecheney: ping [01:23] wallyworld: hey [01:23] saw your mail [01:23] thanks for replying [01:23] the release - we need to cut a 1.11.3.1 [01:23] but we need to create a branch and series [01:23] first [01:23] so i can backport [01:23] _if_ we do a 1.11.3 we _really shold do it from the 1.11.3 tag [01:23] yes [01:23] wallyworld: or we could just tag what we have now as 1.11.4 [01:23] hence why we need to do a series and branch [01:23] i think that is simpler [01:24] wallyworld: unless you want 1.11.3 to be 1.12 [01:24] axw: sorry about these arse backwards version numbers [01:24] davecheney: well, 1.11.3 is broken right now [01:24] for openstack yes [01:24] but 1.11.2 was broken in other ways [01:25] i don't think that is cause to deviate from what we've done in thepast [01:25] i'd be happier to tag trun 1.11.4 [01:25] start 1.11.5 [01:25] and then 1.11.4 can become the new stable branch [01:25] davecheney: there are guys at OSCON who need a package version to work [01:25] that is why I want to do is as I said aboce [01:25] i know that will be the fastest way to get it going [01:26] ok. i'll propose a branch [01:26] mp [01:26] kk [01:26] with the fix [01:26] wallyworld: are you your keys also know to the bot ? [01:26] i might have to ask you to do the tag for me [01:26] hope so [01:26] i'd also want to longer term sort out if we need to change SetConfig() not to be dumb [01:27] i've never tried [01:27] wallyworld: i can send you the words [01:27] you just have to type them [01:27] davecheney: sure. i mean that i'm not sure if my keys work [01:27] but i'm more than happy to try [01:28] * davecheney throws a chair [01:28] fuck this bot [01:29] what fucking good is it if we have to wait for jam do do our commits for us ?!?! [01:29] davecheney: i'll also commit another bug fix that is waiting to land (will help the guys using quantum) [01:29] sgtm [01:29] wallyworld: are you fixing the openstack bootstrap bug? [01:29] axw: yes indeed [01:29] ok [01:30] sorry I'd have proposed a fix yesterday, but I wasn't sure how yet :) [01:30] axw: hey, no problem :-) i didn't know it was broken till i found out on irc today [01:32] davecheney, axw: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/ee0597b40c9b901559b872299a2b1678184b8e6a?hl=en [01:35] here goes nothing [01:37] arosales: you back? [01:47] davecheney: thumper: when you are free https://codereview.appspot.com/11703043 [01:50] wallyworld: will you punch me if I ask for a test ? [01:50] davecheney: yes. the live tests would have failed [01:50] +1 then [01:50] LGTM [01:50] approved [01:50] commit that shit [01:50] thanks :-) [02:24] thumper: you able to +1 that mp so i can get it landed for the 11.4 release? [02:24] davecheney: wanna +1 my mega state.Tools removal branch [02:24] wallyworld: sure, link me up [02:25] davecheney: should I have an account for leankit? [02:25] https://codereview.appspot.com/11703043 [02:26] axw: yes, i don't know how to create one [02:26] axw: write to mramm and ask for one [02:26] ok [02:27] sorry it's been a while [02:27] i can't remember how I came by mine [02:34] edge phones going fast [02:35] 12 hours til the price goes up [02:39] thumper: do you want me to beg? [02:41] wallyworld: you should be used to begging after years of marriage [02:41] yes indeed [02:41] bigjools: like you can talk anyway [02:41] we're all whipped my friend [02:47] davecheney: waiting on a 2nd +1 - maybe i should just land it so the release can progress [02:51] wallyworld: sorry, no begging needed, but house guest arrived [02:51] np [02:52] but i can if you want [02:52] i'm quite good at it [02:52] done [02:52] wallyworld: ok, beg [02:52] * thumper waits [02:53] * wallyworld is down on his knees [02:53] done [02:53] wallyworld: just land that shit [02:53] than you [02:54] if anyone complains, the can blame me [02:56] davecheney: I +1ed it [02:56] davecheney: next time go "LGTM - trivial" [02:56] although jam has suggested going with just one review to land [02:57] which would unblock people [02:57] davecheney: like this trivial one: https://codereview.appspot.com/11561044/ [02:58] thumper: trivial my arse [02:58] it's larger than the fucking codebase [03:05] wallyworld, back [03:06] wallyworld: $ bzr tag -d bzr+ssh://go-bot@bazaar.launchpad.net/~goose-bot/goose/trunk [03:06] -r1494 juju-1.11.3 [03:06] ^ magic to tag 1.11.4 [03:06] obvoiusly with a different tag name and revno [03:06] arosales: a new release is being built. i couldn't fully test bootstrapping because i don't have permission to access the compute nodes. but the original promlem is solved [03:07] davecheney: will do. bot is building now [03:08] wallyworld: thanks mate [03:12] wallyworld, thats good news. Thanks for working on it. I saw you had to beg too. I appreciate that type of commitment ;-) [03:13] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1203935 [03:13] <_mup_> Bug #1203935: Some EC2 instance prices specified in octal [03:13] wallyworld, sorry I didn't fully parse, "I don't have permission to access compute nodes." [03:13] facepalm [03:13] arosales: np. hopefully it's no too much inconvenince for the OSCON guys [03:14] arosales: when i bootstrapped, it said there image id didn't exist. from the web console, i click on the compute links and it says i have no permission [03:15] wallyworld, hmm your a compute admin, let me make you an image admin too [03:16] wallyworld, made you an image mange admin too. [03:16] axw: do yo uwant to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1203935 [03:16] <_mup_> Bug #1203935: Some EC2 instance prices specified in octal [03:16] take a look at this bug [03:16] arosales: thanks, i'll try again in a bit. but i'm sure it will be ok now [03:16] might be a easly one to work your the kinks on [03:16] davecheney: sure [03:18] bigjools, will azure be in 11.4? [03:18] oh son of a bitch [03:18] 1.11.4 that is [03:18] i'll have to commit it out [03:18] comment it out again [03:18] davecheney, bigjools was saying it was working [03:18] why don't you make release branches? this is stupid [03:18] arosales: no I didn't! [03:18] bigjools, :-) [03:19] bigjools: i don't have a good reason for why we don't have this [03:19] bigjools, ah reading your email now I see you had to manually deploy [03:19] release branches or config flags would help here [03:19] bigjools, I thought if I said it enough it would come true [03:20] arosales: it will, soon :) [03:20] bigjools, its good progress [03:21] davecheney, bigjools, hello btw [03:21] so this is where all the fun happens :-) [03:21] o/ [03:21] I should join this channel more often when I am up late [03:22] arosales: c'mon man, i joined your eco channel, even when #juju-dev is where it is at [03:22] arosales: works :-) [03:22] just bootstrapped on hp cloud [03:22] davecheney, well said [03:23] wallyworld, good to hear [03:23] davecheney: anyway not sure you need to remove azure again [03:23] it works w/o go-curl now [03:23] bigjools: ok [03:23] excellent [03:24] the biuld recipe always pulls the latest deps [03:24] excellent apart from the huge fork of 1.0.1 Go code in gwacl [03:25] davecheney: that tag command above - it says goose but surely you meant juju-core? or i guess we need to tag all the dependencies too? [03:25] wallyworld: i just copied that from what gz sent me [03:25] if that isn't what he ran [03:25] then he's a liar [03:26] wallyworld: are you able to put my key on the bot so I can do this myself ? [03:26] i don't think so. i'll chck [03:26] shazbut! [03:28] dosn't appear so [03:29] i'll tag both goose and juju-core [03:31] davecheney: tags done for goose rev 99 and juju-core rev 1514. and yes, that command was slightly incorrect [03:32] wallyworld: thanks mate [03:32] np. hopefully it will build all ok [03:37] what could possibly go wrong [03:37] wallyworld: while i'm screwing with this [03:37] can you please make sure those two bugs are assigned to 1.11.4 and stuff [03:37] ah yes, will do [03:37] ta muchly [03:38] bollocks, have to do release notes as well [03:39] davecheney, just +2 bugs fixes from 1.11.3 correct? [03:40] arosales: yup [03:44] fwiw I appreciate the emergency 1.11.4 build [03:45] no worries [03:45] davecheney: arosales: there was a bug fixed for 1.11.3 not tagged as such, so i added it to 1.11.4 so folks had visibility to it. bug 1195223 [03:45] <_mup_> Bug #1195223: juju all-machines.log is repetitive and grows unbounded [03:46] wallyworld: did I miss that one ? [03:46] was it linked from the leankit card ? [03:46] this is the way i do the release notes [03:46] btw, who let 1.11.3 go out the door with out it bootstrapping on hp cloud ;-) [03:46] davecheney: no, it was my fault. i didn't assign it to any milestone [03:47] arosales: those of us without hp cloud creds :-) [03:47] 1. read cards in leankit, if they are bugs and have an lp link I tried to reframe the bug in the release notes [03:47] if they sort of look like internall stuff, like the containers work, i omit them from the release notes [03:47] davecheney: i suspect there was a card on leankit but the bug number may not have been there. not sure now [03:47] no worries [03:47] noone died [03:47] wallyworld, ah so now that you have hp creds that issue should be solved [03:47] davecheney: we devs need to take more responsibility for managing our bugs [03:47] arosales: indeed [03:48] davecheney: in launchpad land, our qa process was much stricter and all branches had to have bugs attached etc and so work couldn't slip through unnoticed [03:49] what level of access to my account does lbox/lpad need? [03:49] wallyworld: i'm not sure how to answer that [03:49] should we aspire to being more like lp, or less ? [03:49] axw: ahh, ther is a trick [03:49] read the CONTRIBUTING [03:50] davecheney: in respect to some process type things, more like it [03:50] ta [03:50] from memory you need to bzr launchpad-login [03:50] or something (it is documented) [03:50] didn't see that, thanks [03:50] to generate an oauth key so lbox can fiddle with lp on your behalf [03:50] righto [03:51] axw: protip, do it from a fresh terminal so it can fire 'sensible-browser' [03:54] wallyworld: what is the tag for goose ? [03:54] goose-1.11.4 ? [03:54] juju-1.11.4 [03:54] ta [03:54] since it's a part of juju [03:55] wallyworld: https://code.launchpad.net/~dave-cheney/+recipe/juju-core [03:55] ^ while I was there [03:55] * davecheney goes to rant onthe agenda notes [03:56] * wallyworld looks [03:56] https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1JjlwYw8AhF9MxfUJo1SvG3gR9Y5wHox-ToIzUEKoRyg/edit# [03:56] ^ looking for the lp # for the two (3) bugs fixed [03:56] davecheney: goose tag looks wrong in the recipe [03:57] bug 1189507 [03:57] <_mup_> Bug #1189507: juju-core duplicates quantum security groups

[03:57] bug 1195223 [03:57] <_mup_> Bug #1195223: juju all-machines.log is repetitive and grows unbounded [03:57] bug 1203658 [03:57] <_mup_> Bug #1203658: bootstrap fails with openstack provider (cannot get endpoint URL without being authenticated) [03:58] thanks mate [04:09] should I be adding "-cr" to get a Rietveld review going? [04:09] er sorry, add to lbox propose [04:09] didn't see it in the CONTRIBUTING doc, but I didn't get any codereview URL from lbox propose [04:11] plz to be reviewing https://codereview.appspot.com/11621044 [04:12] axw: I just set up a new lbox and didn't need to do that [04:25] axw: you _can_ there is a .lbox file in the root of the repo [04:25] which I think does that for you [04:25] ie, it adjusts some of the defaults [04:26] davecheney: thanks, I saw that later (and thanks bigjools). I think the propose failed due to my lack of permissions in editing bugs [04:27] * bigjools longs for lbox death [04:27] bigjools: we should move to github [04:27] * davecheney ducks and is glad he doesn't live in BNE [04:28] talking of gits... :) [04:29] touche [04:29] pfft [04:30] whatever we do, as long as lbox is not involved I'm good [04:31] launchpad is the company standard tool [04:31] we should NEVER has used anything else [04:32] wallyworld: you're probably right, but nobody realised you could manage bzr checkouts in your $GOPATH with lightweight checkous [04:32] checkouts [04:33] sigh [04:33] * bigjools is using bzr native colo too [04:33] did anyone ask? [04:33] why assume such things? [04:33] it's not like the bzr folks work for a different company or anything like that [04:33] wallyworld: when i joined the team I was told do it this way [04:33] you know very well why I wouldn't challenge that [04:34] yeah, i realise. enough said ;-) [04:34] * davecheney thinks of austin, starts to twitch [04:34] no [04:34] albama [04:34] where the frack did we end up [04:34] bzr branch lp:juju then bzr switch -b co:mynewbranch [04:34] HOTLANTA! [04:36] in other news, the royal lizard hatched [04:37] ALL HAIL OUR NEW ROYAL REPTILIAN [04:38] i bet all the folks who campaigned for a republic back in 2004 are shitting their pants now [04:38] William's heir is coming out [04:39] right now ? this second ? [04:39] eww [04:41] bigjools: what? [04:42] bigjools: lp:juju is the old juju [04:42] that's what he said [04:42] bigjools: also, co: ick [04:42] juju-core then, whatever [04:42] what's wrong with co:? [04:42] works fine for us Reds [04:44] I just never liked colocated branches [04:45] normally I have lightweight checkouts and use a sandbox [04:45] and no-tree branches [04:45] but go fucked all that over [04:47] arosales: ping [04:47] davecheney, pong [04:48] bigjools: why, it works for me [04:48] bigjools: my branch in GOPATH is a lightweight checkout [04:48] and I use switch and pipelines [04:49] thumper: first is that "go get" is broken because I aliased bzr branch to use --no-tree [04:49] second is that my no-tree branches are normally in the same dir as go sources, so things get confusing quickly [04:49] go projects, I mean [04:50] bigjools: I have ~/src for repos [04:50] and branches [04:50] and just checkouts in GOPATH [04:50] is there an easy way of referencing that when using bzr switch without typing the whole path? [04:51] if so, I am totally switching back [04:51] yes [04:51] arosales: if you apt-get update && apt-get install juju-core [04:51] bigjools: so here is what I do [04:51] you should have 1.11.4 [04:51] tools are uploading now [04:51] but precise/amd64 is done [04:51] davecheney, doing that now [04:51] bigjools: lets assume we are starting with $GOPATH/src/launchpad.net/juju-core as a lightweight checkout of ~/src/juju-core/trunk [04:52] bigjools: to make a new branch: bzr switch -b new-work [04:52] bigjools: to go back to trunk: bzr switch trunk [04:52] switch looks in the parent dir of the current checkout by default [04:52] parent dir of the branch of the checkout [04:52] thumper: didn't you write a document on this ? [04:52] davecheney: yes [04:52] doc/bazaar-usage.txt [04:52] thumper: ah parent of the *branch* ! [04:52] I thought it was parent of the checkout [04:52] bigjools: yep [04:52] \o/ [04:53] it may well do that too [04:53] that's fucking fantastic [04:53] and then: bzr push [04:53] because the push append_policy is linked to the branch, not the checkout [04:53] automagically goes to the right place in LP [04:53] right [04:53] have that bit sussed already [04:53] that is also documented [04:54] * arosales has bootstrapped on hpcloud with 1.11.4 [04:55] * davecheney high fives wallyworld [04:55] down low ! [04:55] yay [04:55] too slow [04:55] oooh, too slow [04:55] jynx! [04:56] five side [04:56] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5902956/ thanks for the fast fix and release [04:56] scuba dive [04:56] ಠ_ಠ [04:59] why do I only see this error on hpcloud [04:59] $ juju deploy wordpress [04:59] error: no instances found [04:59] if I ran that right after a bootstrap I get that error [04:59] * arosales has to wait for a bit longer after bootstrapping [05:00] * bigjools believes this can of worms about user expectations was previously discussed [05:01] bigjools: expectatoins == feedback ? [05:01] I think it boiled down to either blocking, or providing feedback, yes [05:02] I think someone else referenced this lately: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_astonishment [05:03] thumper: this one should be ok for you to +1 now https://codereview.appspot.com/11659043/ [05:05]