ahoneybundarn web interface, I can't see who is here01:41
ScottKNo one.  Everyone is sleeping.01:49
manchickenJontheEchidna: I resubmitted the proposal.04:08
ScottKNeed to make sure 3f86351c2082cbcabc897dfceac95496b7876cf0 gets reverted from kdepim before the RC packages get released (see KDE release ML).05:49
apachelogger_kf5 workspace fails because of xcb missing07:54
apachelogger_and plasma because of idunno07:54
* apachelogger_ looks at Quintasan08:18
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apachelogger_right then09:22
apachelogger_I am too stupid to add gpg keys to launchpad09:22
kidxhello guys any one know how to downgrade from 4.11 beta 2? back to 13.04 version or stable?09:32
apachelogger_ScottK: rdieter was nice enough to push the qreal fix for calligra upstream already :)09:33
apachelogger_kidx: downgrades are not supported09:34
kidxso how do i fix teh panel disapearing so often09:35
kidxother than that i am fine09:35
apachelogger_#kde can help I guess09:35
kidxalso that crashes the desktop09:35
apachelogger_well, it's beta, crashes are bound to happen ;)09:35
apachelogger_but really #kde may be best about the panel thing, and for the crashes usually reporting bugs helps09:35
kidxi did09:37
kidxand in KDE now09:37
kidxthanks alot09:37
Riddell!testers | alpha 2 candidates http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/299/builds09:48
soeeapachelogger_, he can use ppapurge09:48
ubottuHelp is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56 for information.09:48
soeepurge beta ppa than install kubuntu-desktop09:48
apachelogger_soee: it's unsupported.09:53
apachelogger_upstream, downstream any stream reallly09:53
apachelogger_yofel: builder now supports signing, requires setting KEYID in the codez09:59
apachelogger_also there's now ~neon-builder through which go uploads10:00
apachelogger_also qt5 for raring is trying to build10:00
Quintasanapachelogger_: what is this neon-builder?10:08
apachelogger_the thing that creates the qt5 source10:13
Riddellkubotu: newversion opencv
yofelapachelogger_: fixed workspace, but plasma hasn't been building anymore since mid-akademy (even with frameworks etc. built from git)11:24
apachelogger_yofel: getting broken all the time11:30
apachelogger_libs is changing too much apparently11:30
apachelogger_which is a good thing I reckon11:30
yofelyeah, it was either breaking on libs itself, or on ECM being behind libs11:31
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kidxis there any preformance tweaks i can do to opengl or KDE to gain a preformace boost in game?12:30
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apachelogger_out of space \o/12:57
apachelogger_kidx: is it a fullscreen game?12:57
kidxsomtimes lags or stutters12:57
apachelogger_ctrl-shift-f12 before starting the game, if that makes things better then the game prevents kwin from automatically doing this, so I'd talk to the game developers13:00
apachelogger_also #kde is still the place to go for support on KDE stuff :P13:00
kidxis this no kubuntu13:02
kidxKDE ubuntu13:02
Riddellkubuntu support in #kubuntu13:04
apachelogger_Riddell: activity suggests otherwise13:04
apachelogger_yofel: ppa now all filled up :P13:05
apachelogger_shadeslayer's going to look into space bump13:05
shadeslayeras soon as I get some coffee first 13:05
apachelogger_ecm should still fit in I guess13:06
apachelogger_Riddell: why was 'investigate packaging sddm' abandoned/postponed?13:40
Riddellwas it?13:41
yofelI remember david saying something like it's little value to us right now or so13:41
yofelapachelogger_: do you have the session recording? (if that worked?)13:41
apachelogger_right, yes, sorta13:43
shadeslayeryep, what yofel said13:43
shadeslayerdo you remember what we decided about running tests?13:43
apachelogger_at one point I forgot to resume and at another point a Qt build decided to OOM my machine13:43
apachelogger_so, I should have recordings just not complete ^^13:43
apachelogger_Riddell: I added a comment regardless13:43
apachelogger_our xcb would be too old13:44
yofelshadeslayer: value/cost not good enough as build.kde.org runs them13:44
BluesKajHiyas all13:44
shadeslayerright, thanks for refreshing my memory13:44
apachelogger_recording is weird13:46
apachelogger_it recorded per user Oo13:46
apachelogger_perhaps I should have RTFM first :O13:46
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Riddelltopicdiff 13.10 Alpha 2 testing13:47
shadeslayerbad apachelogger_13:49
yofelwhich reminds me I need to kill of the tests in neon too -  they've been running pointlessly for long enough14:00
apachelogger_.95 is rc1, right?14:03
shadeslayerapachelogger_: how much space do we want?14:14
apachelogger_shadeslayer: 10 I'd say14:14
shadeslayerapachelogger_: surely 32 GB's like neon4 would be too much14:14
apachelogger_perhaps also make it clear that its transitional14:14
apachelogger_and the long term goal is to replace the current neon ppa with the content of what we have in kf514:14
apachelogger_might make it easier to give us the bump :)14:14
RiddellScottK: bug 1079150 updated14:14
ubottubug 1079150 in owncloud (Ubuntu Raring) "Update OwnCloud to 5.0.7" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107915014:14
shadeslayerapachelogger_: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/23291014:17
shadeslayermy mouse is all weird14:18
apachelogger_shadeslayer: thx14:22
* apachelogger_ totally management handled kmix release issues \\o/14:22
apachelogger_all managed out now... I shall go for a swim14:22
shadeslayerapachelogger_: wait14:23
shadeslayerapachelogger_: do you have stuff that needs doing in KF514:23
apachelogger_not on the build side, no14:23
apachelogger_it keeps failing due to upstream changero and raring is blocked on space14:24
apachelogger_(also assuming there are no package name diffs between raring and saucy, raring only needs sequential build triggering to get the stack built)14:25
yofelpackage builds done by launchpad don't fall under the size restriction14:26
yofelso just trigger them14:26
shadeslayerfunny how LP works :)14:27
apachelogger_yofel: lol?14:27
shadeslayeryofel: doesn't uploading fail though?14:27
yofelshadeslayer: no14:27
shadeslayeri.e. deb uploading14:27
yofelsame for package copies from other ppa's14:27
shadeslayerI see14:27
yofelfun really ^^14:27
* apachelogger_ shakes head14:28
apachelogger_it was even too much for the bot14:28
shadeslayerapachelogger_: space granted14:29
apachelogger_anyway, I triggered super low level stuff for building14:29
shadeslayerI'm awesome14:29
apachelogger_we'll see how that goes14:29
apachelogger_shadeslayer: indeed you are14:29
apachelogger_I triggered all !kde stuff (everything without kde/plasma in the name anyway) for raring14:30
apachelogger_if it builds feel free to prod kdesupport < kdelibs < plasma-framework14:30
yofelbug 1196752 is just fun 14:31
yofeland ofc ubottu ran away ;_;14:32
yofelbug 119675214:32
RiddellSuspend only works once when using upower with logind14:33
ubottubug 1196752 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Suspend only works once when using upower with logind" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119675214:34
RiddellI win!14:34
shadeslayersuspending started working for me :O14:34
shadeslayernot sure what changed though14:34
Riddellmore than once?14:35
shadeslayerhmm .. yeah, you're right14:36
shadeslayerit seems last night was the first time I suspended14:36
shadeslayerwhich is probably why it worked14:36
yofelalso fun14:37
yofel$ qdbus14:37
yofelqdbus: could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qdbus': No such file or directory14:37
shadeslayerheh yes14:37
shadeslayerthat's because of qt4-default and stuff I think14:38
yofelqt5 doesn't have qdbus o.O?14:38
tsdgeosit does14:38
tsdgeosyou just don't have it installed14:38
yofelindeed I don't14:39
shadeslayerdid no one test RC1 for Raring?15:04
yofeldid someone apply the kdepim patch on raring?15:05
shadeslayeror well, IDK15:05
yofelthen that needs to be done and it should be ready for testing15:05
shadeslayerokay, nope15:06
shadeslayerunless the patch was landed before raring was uploaded15:06
shadeslayeryofel: that's more of a runtime thing15:06
shadeslayerthe kdepim patch?15:07
shadeslayerisn't that a runtime issue?15:07
Riddellshadeslayer, yofel: I only just did the patch for saucy a few hours ago15:08
Riddellwhere are the raring packages now?  I'll add it15:08
shadeslayerstaging ppa15:08
yofelhm, I don't see the patch in bzr15:08
yofeloh wait, that's -runtime, right15:08
yofelsilly m15:09
yofelhm... 15:09
yofelRiddell: you forgot to bzr add ^^15:09
Riddellmeh, thanks for keeping an eye on me15:10
tsdgeosplease please pleaase15:25
tsdgeosapply that kdepim-runtime patch15:25
tsdgeosit'll destroy peoples lifes15:25
tsdgeos(it did for me) :D15:25
apachelogger_  CMake 2.8.11 or higher is required.  You are running version
apachelogger_and here come the problems15:34
* apachelogger_ goes for swim and stuff15:34
* Riddell lets in kde-runtime/4:4.10.95-0ubuntu1 for the alpha16:02
* yofel goes updating akonadi17:17
geniiIf anyone could just satisfy my curiosity... I notice on the change lists sometimes "Approved by Ubuntu Archive Robot" instead of some human... should i be worried? ;) Or actually... what is this robot?17:19
shadeslayergenii: probably the thing that moves packages from proposed to release17:21
BluesKajI hope the decision to move fro proposed to release is made by a human :)17:24
yofelnot in the development release17:25
yofelbut I guess that robot comes into play when britney is overridden17:25
geniiI guess if something is in a waiting queue for a specified time and no one makes any notes against it then it just automatically progresses to the next queue17:25
geniiyofel: The one I first noticed it with was the phablet in saucy17:26
yofelI did only see it recently as well, but britney hasn't been used for that long either17:26
shadeslayeryofel: Riddell http://i.imgur.com/lzaO3MZ.png17:36
shadeslayergenii: could also possibly the jenkins automatic stuff17:36
shadeslayerthat Canonical has in place to make daily releases17:36
* genii makes more coffee17:37
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1204182] Locale wrongly defaults to en_US.UTF8 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1204182 (by Graeme Hewson)17:41
yofelshadeslayer: there's always people downloading images (though it's interesting that torrents seem to be quite popular)17:48
shadeslayeryofel: true, just thought that it's usually immediately after a release that the numbers spike17:49
shadeslayerbut it seems the numbers spiked fairly recently17:49
ScottKRiddell: Will look at it tonight. 18:00
Riddellthanks :)18:00
shadeslayerapachelogger_: ssup herald18:38
shadeslayerdidn't realize you changed your name 18:38
shadeslayerRiddell: any updates regarding the kernel signing in Kubuntu?18:39
apachelogger_shadeslayer: actually my name is darth vader, but dont tell anyone18:45
shadeslayeryeah right18:46
shadeslayerapachelogger_: any plans on building a new Death Star ?18:53
shadeslayeryofel: Riddell KDE 4.11 RC1 on raring looks fine to me19:04
yofelshadeslayer: I think you can just copy it once akonadi is built19:04
shadeslayeryofel: kdepim-runtime is FTBFS19:06
Riddellyeah I still need to fix that19:06
shadeslayerseems like archive skew or sth?19:06
yofeler, really?19:06
yofellooks fine to me19:06
shadeslayerThe following packages have unmet dependencies:19:06
shadeslayer libakonadi-dev : Depends: libboost-dev but it is not going to be installed19:06
shadeslayer libkolabxml-dev : Depends: libboost-dev but it is not going to be installed19:06
Riddellhum, I've seen that before19:07
yofelSeries: saucy19:07
RiddellI think the kdepim build had the same, different versions of boost19:07
yofelRiddell: I think you uploaded to the wrong release19:08
Riddelloh hum19:08
shadeslayerindeedly ^19:08
Riddellfix uploaded19:09
shadeslayerhm, question, why can't we just seed in linux-signed-generic for Kubuntu19:10
shadeslayerthere's also efilinux-signed , not sure what that is19:11
yofelwasn't it because you needed changes to the image building too? I don't know much about UEFI though19:11
shadeslayernot sure, but aren't the scripts same for Kubuntu and Ubuntu?19:11
Riddellcolin has todo items on that19:12
shadeslayertime to poke him?19:12
shadeslayerI just did some user support in #kde-in regarding EFI installs, where the issue was secure boot19:13
shadeslayerwhich is why I bought this up19:13
shadeslayeralright, I'm off to sleep19:14
Riddellyay new builds!19:47
ubottuHelp is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56 for information.19:47
soeewhats going on ?19:47
Riddellnew alpha 2 candidates19:49
Riddellneeding testing19:49
QuintasanRiddell: I'm on it20:15
Quintasanthough the rsync link seems broken20:17
Riddellzsync from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20130723.1/ maybe20:19
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Quintasani386 (entire disk) - passed20:32
RiddellQuintasan: did you do Live Session too?21:00
QuintasanRiddell: Not yet21:01
QuintasanOnce I'm done with encrypted LVM I will do that.21:01
RiddellQuintasan: you just ran the installer directly?21:02
QuintasanThat's what the testcase says21:02
Riddelloh interesting21:02
Riddelland yeah it needs testing too21:02
QuintasanRiddell: It's going to take a while since my pc psu died21:15
QuintasanI'm doing it on laptop by hand21:15
QuintasanLive CD works21:16
QuintasanManual partitioning as well21:19
QuintasanRiddell: I can do amd64 tomorrow21:20
RiddellQuintasan: I just did a bunch of amd64 ones21:32
RiddellQuintasan: but there's a bunch more to do, would be good :)21:33
* Quintasan tries to squeeze one more vm in21:35
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