[01:41] darn web interface, I can't see who is here [01:49] No one. Everyone is sleeping. [04:08] JontheEchidna: I resubmitted the proposal. [05:49] Need to make sure 3f86351c2082cbcabc897dfceac95496b7876cf0 gets reverted from kdepim before the RC packages get released (see KDE release ML). [07:54] so [07:54] kf5 workspace fails because of xcb missing [07:54] and plasma because of idunno [08:02] \o [08:18] * apachelogger_ looks at Quintasan [09:02] hi === jono is now known as Guest19501 [09:22] right then [09:22] I am too stupid to add gpg keys to launchpad [09:32] hello guys any one know how to downgrade from 4.11 beta 2? back to 13.04 version or stable? [09:33] ScottK: rdieter was nice enough to push the qreal fix for calligra upstream already :) [09:34] kidx: downgrades are not supported [09:35] so how do i fix teh panel disapearing so often [09:35] other than that i am fine [09:35] #kde can help I guess [09:35] also that crashes the desktop [09:35] well, it's beta, crashes are bound to happen ;) [09:35] but really #kde may be best about the panel thing, and for the crashes usually reporting bugs helps [09:37] i did [09:37] and in KDE now [09:37] thanks alot [09:48] !testers | alpha 2 candidates http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/299/builds [09:48] apachelogger_, he can use ppapurge [09:48] !testers [09:48] Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56 for information. [09:48] hmm [09:48] purge beta ppa than install kubuntu-desktop [09:53] soee: it's unsupported. [09:53] upstream, downstream any stream reallly [09:59] yofel: builder now supports signing, requires setting KEYID in the codez [10:00] also there's now ~neon-builder through which go uploads [10:00] also qt5 for raring is trying to build [10:08] apachelogger_: what is this neon-builder? [10:13] the thing that creates the qt5 source [10:41] kubotu: newversion opencv 2.4.6.1 [10:41] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1204059 [11:24] apachelogger_: fixed workspace, but plasma hasn't been building anymore since mid-akademy (even with frameworks etc. built from git) [11:30] yofel: getting broken all the time [11:30] libs is changing too much apparently [11:30] which is a good thing I reckon [11:31] yeah, it was either breaking on libs itself, or on ECM being behind libs === vinay is now known as Guest14681 === Mamarok_ is now known as Mamarok === Mamarok is now known as Mamarok_ [12:30] is there any preformance tweaks i can do to opengl or KDE to gain a preformace boost in game? === Mamarok_ is now known as Mamarok [12:57] out of space \o/ [12:57] kidx: is it a fullscreen game? [12:57] yes [12:57] somtimes lags or stutters [13:00] ctrl-shift-f12 before starting the game, if that makes things better then the game prevents kwin from automatically doing this, so I'd talk to the game developers [13:00] also #kde is still the place to go for support on KDE stuff :P [13:02] is this no kubuntu [13:02] KDE ubuntu [13:02] ?? [13:04] kubuntu support in #kubuntu [13:04] Riddell: activity suggests otherwise [13:05] yofel: ppa now all filled up :P [13:05] shadeslayer's going to look into space bump [13:05] as soon as I get some coffee first [13:06] ecm should still fit in I guess [13:06] *try* [13:40] Riddell: why was 'investigate packaging sddm' abandoned/postponed? [13:41] was it? [13:41] I remember david saying something like it's little value to us right now or so [13:41] hum [13:41] apachelogger_: do you have the session recording? (if that worked?) [13:43] right, yes, sorta [13:43] yep, what yofel said [13:43] do you remember what we decided about running tests? [13:43] at one point I forgot to resume and at another point a Qt build decided to OOM my machine [13:43] so, I should have recordings just not complete ^^ [13:43] Riddell: I added a comment regardless [13:44] our xcb would be too old [13:44] shadeslayer: value/cost not good enough as build.kde.org runs them [13:44] Hiyas all [13:44] right, thanks for refreshing my memory [13:46] hm [13:46] recording is weird [13:46] it recorded per user Oo [13:46] perhaps I should have RTFM first :O === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.10.95 saucy/script |4.10.90 saucy/archive, raring/beta, quantal/staging WIP | 4.10.5 raring/queue | 13.10 Alpha 2 testing | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj [13:47] topicdiff 13.10 Alpha 2 testing [13:49] bad apachelogger_ [14:00] which reminds me I need to kill of the tests in neon too - they've been running pointlessly for long enough [14:03] .95 is rc1, right? [14:04] right [14:14] apachelogger_: how much space do we want? [14:14] shadeslayer: 10 I'd say [14:14] apachelogger_: surely 32 GB's like neon4 would be too much [14:14] yeah [14:14] perhaps also make it clear that its transitional [14:14] and the long term goal is to replace the current neon ppa with the content of what we have in kf5 [14:14] might make it easier to give us the bump :) [14:14] ScottK: bug 1079150 updated [14:14] bug 1079150 in owncloud (Ubuntu Raring) "Update OwnCloud to 5.0.7" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1079150 [14:17] apachelogger_: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/232910 [14:18] my mouse is all weird [14:22] shadeslayer: thx [14:22] * apachelogger_ totally management handled kmix release issues \\o/ [14:22] all managed out now... I shall go for a swim [14:23] apachelogger_: wait [14:23] apachelogger_: do you have stuff that needs doing in KF5 [14:23] not on the build side, no [14:23] okay [14:24] it keeps failing due to upstream changero and raring is blocked on space [14:24] okay [14:25] (also assuming there are no package name diffs between raring and saucy, raring only needs sequential build triggering to get the stack built) [14:26] package builds done by launchpad don't fall under the size restriction [14:26] so just trigger them [14:27] ^^ [14:27] funny how LP works :) [14:27] yofel: lol? [14:27] yofel: doesn't uploading fail though? [14:27] shadeslayer: no [14:27] i.e. deb uploading [14:27] same for package copies from other ppa's [14:27] I see [14:27] fun really ^^ [14:28] * apachelogger_ shakes head [14:28] it was even too much for the bot [14:29] lol [14:29] dude [14:29] apachelogger_: space granted [14:29] anyway, I triggered super low level stuff for building [14:29] I'm awesome [14:29] we'll see how that goes [14:29] shadeslayer: indeed you are [14:30] I triggered all !kde stuff (everything without kde/plasma in the name anyway) for raring [14:30] if it builds feel free to prod kdesupport < kdelibs < plasma-framework [14:31] bug 1196752 is just fun [14:32] and ofc ubottu ran away ;_; [14:32] bug 1196752 [14:33] Suspend only works once when using upower with logind [14:34] bug 1196752 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Suspend only works once when using upower with logind" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1196752 [14:34] I win! [14:34] actually [14:34] suspending started working for me :O [14:34] not sure what changed though [14:35] more than once? [14:36] yes [14:36] oh [14:36] wait [14:36] hmm .. yeah, you're right [14:36] it seems last night was the first time I suspended [14:36] which is probably why it worked [14:37] also fun [14:37] $ qdbus [14:37] qdbus: could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qdbus': No such file or directory [14:37] heh yes [14:38] that's because of qt4-default and stuff I think [14:38] qt5 doesn't have qdbus o.O? [14:38] it does [14:38] you just don't have it installed [14:38] ^^ [14:38] qdbus-qt5 [14:39] indeed I don't [15:04] did no one test RC1 for Raring? [15:05] did someone apply the kdepim patch on raring? [15:05] nope [15:05] or well, IDK [15:05] then that needs to be done and it should be ready for testing [15:06] okay, nope [15:06] unless the patch was landed before raring was uploaded [15:06] yofel: that's more of a runtime thing [15:06] what? [15:07] the kdepim patch? [15:07] isn't that a runtime issue? [15:08] shadeslayer, yofel: I only just did the patch for saucy a few hours ago [15:08] where are the raring packages now? I'll add it [15:08] staging ppa [15:08] hm, I don't see the patch in bzr [15:08] oh wait, that's -runtime, right [15:09] silly m [15:09] e [15:09] hm... [15:09] Riddell: you forgot to bzr add ^^ [15:10] meh, thanks for keeping an eye on me [15:25] please please pleaase [15:25] apply that kdepim-runtime patch [15:25] it'll destroy peoples lifes [15:25] (it did for me) :D [15:30] haha [15:33] CMake 2.8.11 or higher is required. You are running version 2.8.10.1 [15:34] and here come the problems [15:34] weeeh [15:34] * apachelogger_ goes for swim and stuff [16:02] * Riddell lets in kde-runtime/4:4.10.95-0ubuntu1 for the alpha [17:17] * yofel goes updating akonadi [17:19] If anyone could just satisfy my curiosity... I notice on the change lists sometimes "Approved by Ubuntu Archive Robot" instead of some human... should i be worried? ;) Or actually... what is this robot? [17:21] genii: probably the thing that moves packages from proposed to release [17:22] Interesting [17:24] I hope the decision to move fro proposed to release is made by a human :) [17:25] not in the development release [17:25] but I guess that robot comes into play when britney is overridden [17:25] I guess if something is in a waiting queue for a specified time and no one makes any notes against it then it just automatically progresses to the next queue [17:26] yofel: The one I first noticed it with was the phablet in saucy [17:26] I did only see it recently as well, but britney hasn't been used for that long either [17:35] whoa [17:36] aha [17:36] yofel: Riddell http://i.imgur.com/lzaO3MZ.png [17:36] genii: could also possibly the jenkins automatic stuff [17:36] that Canonical has in place to make daily releases [17:37] * genii makes more coffee [17:41] ::workspace-bugs:: [1204182] Locale wrongly defaults to en_US.UTF8 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1204182 (by Graeme Hewson) [17:48] shadeslayer: there's always people downloading images (though it's interesting that torrents seem to be quite popular) [17:49] yofel: true, just thought that it's usually immediately after a release that the numbers spike [17:49] but it seems the numbers spiked fairly recently [18:00] Riddell: Will look at it tonight. [18:00] thanks :) [18:38] apachelogger_: ssup herald [18:38] didn't realize you changed your name [18:39] Riddell: any updates regarding the kernel signing in Kubuntu? [18:45] shadeslayer: actually my name is darth vader, but dont tell anyone [18:46] yeah right [18:53] apachelogger_: any plans on building a new Death Star ? [19:04] yofel: Riddell KDE 4.11 RC1 on raring looks fine to me [19:04] \o/ [19:04] shadeslayer: I think you can just copy it once akonadi is built [19:05] ack [19:06] yofel: kdepim-runtime is FTBFS [19:06] :S [19:06] yeah I still need to fix that [19:06] seems like archive skew or sth? [19:06] er, really? [19:06] looks fine to me [19:06] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [19:06] libakonadi-dev : Depends: libboost-dev but it is not going to be installed [19:06] libkolabxml-dev : Depends: libboost-dev but it is not going to be installed [19:07] hum, I've seen that before [19:07] https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging/+build/4819262 [19:07] https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging/+build/4819261 [19:07] Series: saucy [19:07] eh? [19:07] I think the kdepim build had the same, different versions of boost [19:08] Riddell: I think you uploaded to the wrong release [19:08] oh hum [19:08] sigh [19:08] indeedly ^ [19:09] fix uploaded [19:10] hm, question, why can't we just seed in linux-signed-generic for Kubuntu [19:11] there's also efilinux-signed , not sure what that is [19:11] wasn't it because you needed changes to the image building too? I don't know much about UEFI though [19:11] not sure, but aren't the scripts same for Kubuntu and Ubuntu? [19:12] colin has todo items on that [19:12] time to poke him? [19:13] I just did some user support in #kde-in regarding EFI installs, where the issue was secure boot [19:13] which is why I bought this up [19:14] alright, I'm off to sleep [19:14] night [19:47] yay new builds! [19:47] !testers [19:47] Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56 for information. [19:47] whats going on ? [19:49] new alpha 2 candidates [19:49] needing testing [19:49] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/299/builds [20:15] Riddell: I'm on it [20:16] awooga [20:17] though the rsync link seems broken [20:19] zsync from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20130723.1/ maybe === smarter_ is now known as smarter [20:32] i386 (entire disk) - passed [20:34] awooga [21:00] Quintasan: did you do Live Session too? [21:01] Riddell: Not yet [21:01] Once I'm done with encrypted LVM I will do that. [21:02] Quintasan: you just ran the installer directly? [21:02] Yes. [21:02] That's what the testcase says [21:02] oh interesting [21:02] and yeah it needs testing too [21:15] christ [21:15] Riddell: It's going to take a while since my pc psu died [21:15] I'm doing it on laptop by hand [21:16] Hmm [21:16] Live CD works [21:19] Manual partitioning as well [21:20] Riddell: I can do amd64 tomorrow [21:32] Quintasan: I just did a bunch of amd64 ones [21:33] Okay [21:33] Quintasan: but there's a bunch more to do, would be good :) [21:35] * Quintasan tries to squeeze one more vm in === dantti_laptop|2 is now known as dantti_laptop