[00:52] <nasser> I'm running KDE 4.10.5 on mint 15. I have newly created activity and I ran a command in konsole. Then I stopped the activity. When I start the activity again, konsole starts a new session. Is it possible to make konsole continue running the command before stopping the activity? or at least re-run the command again. Thanks
[01:01] <MichaelP> Kde released 4.11 RC1 on the 16.. When will it be ready for kubuntu ? beta2 in ppa right now
[03:35] <snuffleburger> connection test...
[03:35] <snuffleburger> am I here?
[03:37] <genii> Yes.
[03:38] <snuffleburger> and what does this:
[03:38] <snuffleburger> display?
[03:39] <snuffleburger> well it seems to be working on the client side...
[03:39] <genii> snuffleburger: Yes, we are seeing what you type.
[03:39] <snuffleburger> yeah but do you see away messages?
[03:40] <genii> snuffleburger: You haven't done: /away   so no
[03:40] <snuffleburger> I did.
[03:40] <snuffleburger> twice.
[03:40] <snuffleburger> here I'll do it again: /away
[03:40] <OerHeks> We could, but we did not see it.
[03:41] <genii> Needs to just be:
[03:41] <genii> /away
[03:41] <snuffleburger> /
[03:41] <genii> as the first thing
[03:41] <snuffleburger> /away
[03:42] <genii> snuffleburger: You put two // there as I did. But I put two to make it show one. Use only one
[03:42] <snuffleburger> I know.  I did it both ways just to see
[03:42] <snuffleburger> I sound a lot stupider than I really am when it is after 10pm
[03:43] <genii> At any rate, works on my client so Freenode is fine. Something with your client or else your syntax
[03:44] <snuffleburger> your client is freenode or the server is freenode?  I thought freenode was a server.
[03:44] <genii> snuffleburger: My client is quassel, the server is freenode
[03:45] <snuffleburger> I just checked server settins and it is irc.ubuntu.com
[03:45] <snuffleburger> not sure what happened there...
[03:47] <snuffleburger> http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/success.png
[03:48] <snuffleburger> so I guess I will call it good enough that my internet connection is working, and I can login to IRC.  :)
[03:48] <snuffleburger> ooh and I can do pretty colors.
[03:48] <snuffleburger> Better watch for sharks
[03:49] <snuffleburger> allright bed for real this time.
[03:49] <snuffleburger> dreadfully sorry to clutter your channel while I tested quassel.
[08:08] <random_lurker> I recently got a vaio with preinstalled windows 8
[08:09] <random_lurker> I've setup a live usb with kubuntu 13.04 64bit image using Linux live usb creator, the laptop boots from the usb and I am shown the grub selector
[08:09] <random_lurker> then I select 'Start Kubuntu' but nothing happens
[08:10] <random_lurker> Is this common? I have multiple partitions on the harddisk
[08:44] <kidx> hellow all i need help i updated KDE on 13.04 to 4.11beta 2 i tihnk and the desktop panel disapears once in a while mostly after ditting for a while any ideas?
[08:44] <kidx> sorry after sitting for a while
[08:45] <kidx> any way to downgrade
[09:16] <Avihay> kidx: sounds like plasma-desktop is crashing on you. there are ways to downgrade, but I only know the hard-ugly one
[09:17] <ss_haze> how do I get video file thumbnails for mo4
[09:17] <ss_haze> mp4 *
[09:19] <ss_haze> using dolphin there was plugin
[09:19] <ss_haze> can't remmber name
[09:21] <ss_haze> ok I found already mayb
[09:23] <kidx> oh ok
[09:23] <kidx> i just having issues
[09:23] <kidx> is liquorix a good kernel
[09:23] <ss_haze> why do you want bleeding edge at first
[09:23] <ss_haze> kidx
[09:23] <kidx> I am a gamer and need more gaming preformance for steam any ideas
[09:23] <kidx> i am sick of the crashing and stuff
[09:24] <ss_haze> I also have games on steam, but I am not running for latest beta unstable thingy, just for newer something
[09:25] <kidx> well i am on 13.04
[09:25] <kidx> games run ok just want somthing thats gona make games load faster like a 10sec load to load up l4d2 huh yea
[09:25] <Avihay> canonical, valve and your video card manufacturer work hard to give you a stable experience with the "default" kernel and set of drivers
[09:25] <kidx> yes i see this gaming is nice but i get stutters once in a while
[09:26] <kidx> plus this is unstable with the desktop disapearing once in a while
[09:27] <kidx> there is a 4.10.95 out but dont know where to grab it
[09:27] <kidx> KDE 4.10.95
[09:28] <lordievader> kidx: That is a beta.
[09:28] <lordievader> Beta of 4.11
[09:28] <kidx> oko how do i down grade to stabel version
[09:28] <kidx> just want kde stable
[09:29] <kidx> and gaming to get better
[09:29] <lordievader> No idea how to do that properly.
[09:29] <kidx> and not stutter
[09:29] <kidx> I hop[e some one comes along and help
[09:30] <kidx> I love KDE
[09:30] <kidx> Kubuntu keeps KDE plain
[09:30] <kidx> just like how they stay orignial
[09:31] <lordievader> kidx: They might know in #kubuntu-devel
[09:31] <kidx> Now just gotta make gaming better on here and i am very happy i this craps out i am gona go to Gnome Remix i just want something to be stable
[09:31] <lordievader> kidx: What kind of graphics card do you have?
[09:31] <kidx> AMD HD5770
[09:32] <kidx> i am going to that channel
[09:32] <lordievader> kidx: And you have installed the closed-source driver I take?
[09:33] <kidx> what driver
[09:33] <kidx> Kubuntu is messed up for drivers lol not labling any expermential drivers like ubuntu they need to get like ubuntu for additional drivers?
[09:34] <kidx> there is 2 additional drivers and none say experimental
[09:34] <lordievader> kidx: Ubuntu and Kubuntu uses the same utility for that, run jockey-kde from the terminal.
[09:35] <lordievader> For AMD/ATI there are no experimental drivers, IIRC.
[09:35] <kidx> on ubuntu there is
[09:36] <kidx> 12.04
[09:36] <kidx> i take it here there is not
[10:21] <DarkSim_> Hi I need some help with installing
[10:21] <DarkSim_> Im going to install Kubuntu 13.04 but I need some help making sure of one thing
[10:22] <ikonia> what's up ?
[10:23] <DarkSim_> Im not that good of a Linux user, but last time I installed a distro I tried to make certain that I could install another distro after that without having to lose all my data
[10:23] <DarkSim_> something like using two partitions, one for system and one for home or something
[10:23] <DarkSim_> But I honestly dont know if I did that and how I make certain of it
[10:24] <ikonia> didn't you ask this the other day ?
[10:24] <DarkSim_> This is the first time Ive been here
[10:25] <DarkSim_> Sorry if you are confusing me with someone
[10:25] <[Raiden]> one home partition - is ok ,  one user  for two systems - imho bad idea.
[10:25] <DarkSim_> it was apparently so when I installed a new distro I would overwrite the system drive
[10:25] <DarkSim_> but the home partition would still be there and it would link with the new distro
[10:26] <[Raiden]> use /etc/fstab
[10:27] <DarkSim_> Im sorry if I dont know what to do
[10:27] <DarkSim_> should I use nano or something?
[10:27] <[Raiden]> yes
[10:27] <[Raiden]> or kdesudo kate /etc/fstab
[10:28] <DarkSim_> ok done
[10:28] <[Raiden]> and read man )
[10:28] <DarkSim_> so what am I looking for
[10:31] <DarkSim_> I dont know what to do with the information
[10:32] <lordievader> DarkSim_: You are looking for a secondary partition mounted to /home
[10:32] <[Raiden]> you need to edit this file on new system and write there mount the home folder. If I understand the question :) I came here by accident
[10:33] <DarkSim_> the thing is that it seems like I only have the swap partition visible
[10:33] <DarkSim_> nothing else
[10:41] <[Raiden]> DarkSim_: better to use a separate partition for the home folder. For safekeeping.
[10:41] <[Raiden]> You can simply copy the / home directory to the new system as an option to check on it right then.
[10:44] <[Raiden]> I'd better keep quiet. My English is not ready for questions
[10:59] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[12:30] <kidx> is there any preformance tweaks i can do to opengl or KDE to gain a preformace boost in game?
[12:40] <jejejelou> hello
[13:40] <tkennedy_> anyone know how to get Krdc working with Xfree-rdp 1.0.2 ? I upgraded KDE to the 4.11 Beta 2 and now Krdc won't run because freerdp is 1.0.1
[13:44] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:52] <cmagina> anyone running saucy and seeing kde take a ridiculously long time to load from login?
[13:54] <BluesKaj> ok , ridiculously long time means how long , cmagina ?
[13:55] <cmagina> BluesKaj: say a full minute or two after entering the password to login
[13:55] <BluesKaj> and questions about saucy should be directed to #ubuntu+1 , btw
[13:56] <cmagina> BluesKaj: alright, just figured i'd start here since this is a kde issue
[13:56] <BluesKaj> I noticed my saucy install takes about 30 secs before everything loads ...a bit slow alright
[13:57] <cmagina> the default splash appears, shows the first entry, sits there for a long time, then the screen attempts to make the transition to the desktop but stalls with a black screen and a cursor
[13:58] <cmagina> then after another long period it loads the desktop
[13:58] <cmagina> BluesKaj: i have some akonadi resources that are definitely increasing my load time
[13:59] <BluesKaj> and you're install is up to date ? ..well I don't have either akonadi or nepomuk enabled
[13:59] <cmagina> i actually removed some as it was worse
[13:59] <BluesKaj> you're=your
[14:00] <cmagina> yeah, i first thought it might be akonadi, but this seems more like the kde init pieces are waiting for things
[14:00] <cmagina> BluesKaj: fresh update as of yesterday
[14:00] <cmagina> haven't checked for anything today
[14:00]  * BluesKaj nods
[14:01] <cmagina> did the transition to the new kdeinit occur (remembers reading some blog posts about that being improved)?
[14:08] <BluesKaj> cmagina, kdeinit occur?
[14:08] <MichaelP> How does 2 different distro's running the same version of kde. Like Kubuntu and Arch..graphics quality looks better in Kubuntu
[14:15] <cmagina> BluesKaj: i remember some blog posts about the script that initializes kde being re-done/improved. i'm not sure if/when that stuff is replacing the old way
[14:18] <BluesKaj> cmagina, haven't heard anything about that ... I recall hearing that parts of systemd are being employed in kubuntu 13.10
[14:18] <cmagina> BluesKaj: ah, yeah, forgot about that.
[14:26] <tkennedy_> anyone try using Krdc in 13.04 with update KDE 4.11 Beta 2 ?
[14:26] <tkennedy_> it no worky
[14:31] <BluesKaj> tkennedy_, it noi worky maybe because KDE 4.11 Beta 2 is experimenty  :)
[14:31] <tkennedy_> of course it is but I guess it wasn't tested on 13.04 because 13.04 has freerdp 1.0.1.
[14:32] <tkennedy_> I would expect bugs but clearly not working at all is something different
[14:33] <tkennedy_> was just wondering if there was a quick way to get xfree-rdp upgraded to 1.0.2 with all it's dependancies
[14:36] <BluesKaj> tkennedy_, I'm on 13.10 and don't see freerdp 1.0.1 available in the repos
[14:36] <lordievader> I believe I compiled it once to get Krdc working again.
[14:37] <BluesKaj> ah there it is tkennedy_ , it is available , but no 1.0.2
[14:39] <lordievader> Or maybe there was a ppa carrying 1.0.2, can't remember.
[14:43] <tkennedy_> yeah 1.0.2 is in 13.10 repos not 13.04. so seems like only options are to compile with all dependancies sources or get all deb dependancies manually
[14:46] <BluesKaj> ah yeah freedrpX11 1.0.2
[14:47] <BluesKaj> installed here
[14:47] <BluesKaj> but never use kdrc
[14:50] <BluesKaj> err krdc :)
[15:18] <FundyChristian> !staff | Attention everyone! if you dont REPENT GOD WILL KILL YOU and SEND YOU TO HELL!
[15:18] <FundyChristian> !ops | Attention everyone! if you dont REPENT GOD WILL KILL YOU and SEND YOU TO HELL!
[15:24] <DarkSim> Hello! How do I install kttsd on Kubuntu 13.04
[15:30] <BluesKaj> DarkSim, i think kttsd has been replaced by jovie
[15:30] <tsimpson> DarkSim: just choose kttsd (or jovie) from the package manager
[15:54] <MichaelP> I have virtual desktop set to 4.. different widgets for each desktop... But i only getting the main desktop !!
[16:08] <BluesKaj> MichaelP, system settings>workspace behavior>virtual desktops , enable/check "Different widgets for each desktop" ?
[16:09] <MichaelP> BluesKaj: Did all that.. But found i had to add the pager widget
[16:10] <BluesKaj> well yeah...an easy way to keep track
[16:13] <MichaelP> Think one of the things i like about Kubuntu is graphics quality ( Desktop ) is cleaner then other distro's running same kde version
[16:17] <BluesKaj> I've tried others like mint and arch ,but always used the same settings/themes and colours etc, so i never noticed much difference
[16:24] <MichaelP> Like the default themes.. Seem cleaner
[16:49] <apachelogger_> tsimpson, jussi: could someone please remove me from the ops highlight :)
[16:50] <tsimpson> apachelogger_: done
[17:00] <apachelogger_> tsimpson: thx
[18:47] <flyingpeacock> @genii, hey sorry I've been lost. Did you figure anything out about my wireless card/driver?
[18:48] <genii> flyingpeacock: Nothing enlightening
[18:53] <flyingpeacock> @genii okay, well thanks for trying
[19:20] <geri> hi
[19:21] <geri> where can i set the proxy in kubuntu?
[19:21] <geri> is there a system wide config file?
[19:28] <gomiboy> geri: use the environment variables HTTP_PROXY and HTTPS_PROXY (and FTP_PROXY if you need it). Edit the file .profile in your home dir and add HTTP_PROXY = "yourproxy.com" and so on...
[20:29] <F41l> Question, is there any way to take a 32bit Kubuntu install and convert it to using EFI bootloader? I tried using the boot-repair-disk method but it said that the linux version is not compatible with EFI. Do I need to replace the kernel with one that has an EFI stub?
[21:50] <F41l> Question, is there any way to take a 32bit Kubuntu install and convert it to using EFI bootloader? I tried using the boot-repair-disk method but it said that the linux version is not compatible with EFI. Do I need to replace the kernel with one that has an EFI stub?
[21:50] <ikonia> F41l: what version of kubuntu ?
[21:51] <F41l> 13.04
[21:51] <ikonia> should be technically possible
[21:51] <ikonia> I suspect you'll need to do a fair bit of manual effort though
[21:51] <F41l> I need to install onto a 32bit-only, efi-only IA32 tablet
[21:51] <F41l> tried a lot of options.
[21:52] <F41l> right now, working on doing an install to a USB stick, getting it EFI booting, and then using clone software to flash it to the tablet's 64gig SSD
[21:52] <ikonia> F41l: I'm surprised by the kernel warning, I can't believe the 32bit/64bit kernel differ at that level
[21:53] <F41l> Well that's loosely what boot-repair-disk said about the installation.
[21:53] <ikonia> no idea what boot-repeair-disk is, so no trusting that
[21:53] <F41l> I did a manual partitioned install to a USB stick as the hard drive. 256 FAT32 partition (sda1), mounted to /boot/efi
[21:53] <ikonia> F41l: out of interest can you just not install kubuntu to the tablet using the standard install process ?
[21:53] <F41l> and the rest is ext4 sda2, mounted to /
[21:53] <F41l> and swap
[21:54] <F41l> No, it will not boot the installer
[21:54] <F41l> the 32bit media is not EFI booting.
[21:54] <Quintasan> Hmmm
[21:54] <Quintasan> Riddell: ^
[21:54] <ikonia> F41l: that seems wrong
[21:54] <F41l> the tablet itself does not support legacy BIOS mode
[21:54] <ikonia> (I dont doubt what you are saying, but I can't believe that it doesn't support EFI)
[21:55] <OerHeks> General principle To install Ubuntu in EFI mode: Use a 64bit disk of Ubuntu (32bit installer does not detect EFI) ? > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Installing_Ubuntu_in_EFI_mode
[21:55] <F41l> OerHeks: way past that.
[21:55] <ikonia> so it's a glitch in the installer
[21:55] <F41l> It's an IA32 processor (aka, does not do 64bit)
[21:55] <ikonia> no, but that may explain why it' not taking a 32bit install, if the installer has a bug in it
[21:56] <OerHeks> Yes, that makes me wonder too, but the manual is not written by 1 person, i guess
[21:56] <F41l> I managed to get elilo to do -something-. I used rEFInd to attempt to boot the 32bit installation media written to a usb stick with my own added elilo bootloader.
[21:56] <F41l> It just hits a black screen
[21:56] <Quintasan> wait, ia32 with efi?
[21:56] <F41l> yeah.
[21:56] <Quintasan> what on Earth is that device?
[21:56] <F41l> Dell lattitude 10 TS2
[21:56] <OerHeks> Does the bios have Legacy mode?
[21:56] <ikonia> I'm curious to
[21:56] <F41l> no, it doesn't have legacy mode
[21:57] <F41l> strictly EFI
[21:57] <F41l> atom processor
[21:57] <F41l> best thing I can try is to get a flash drive as a working installation booting
[21:57] <F41l> then make it permanent by cloning it to the internal ssd
[21:57] <ikonia> this looks very messy
[21:58] <F41l> yeah
[21:58] <F41l> :D
[21:58] <Quintasan> F41l: That's your best bet in this situation
[21:58] <F41l> I think so, but having a hard time getting that done as well :D
[21:58] <F41l> I got it installed, but now trying to make it EFI booting.
[21:58] <Quintasan> EFI is a pain in the ass for everyone now.
[21:58] <F41l> but the method recommended gave me an error and refused to complete.
[21:59] <F41l> Though I do suspect it might be because the computer I'm using to build the install itself doesn't have an EFI bios.
[21:59] <F41l> Can't be certain.
[21:59] <F41l> yeah EFI is being a real pain :D
[22:00] <Quintasan> F41l: I think guys over at #ubuntu-kernel might know more.
[22:00] <ikonia> F41l: it would be very helpful if you kept notes, and logged any bugs, and considered making a wiki page entry for this device with pros/cons you found and a working process
[22:01] <F41l> yeah
[22:01] <F41l> I was planning on it once I had a good process.
[22:01] <Quintasan> F41l: You should consider asking over there if all fails
[22:05] <Quintasan> F41l: Did you see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1025555 ?
[22:06] <F41l> Yeah I did.
[22:06] <F41l> I'm way past that.
[22:07] <F41l> Also, not to the point of testing to see if my specially prepared USB stick will boot on the tablet. I'm a step before that. Directly post-installation to the USB stick, trying to convert the installation to using EFI to boot.
[22:07] <F41l> that's where the boot-repair software is giving me guff, saying the kernel installed by 32bit kubuntu 13.04 media is not compatible with EFI.
[22:07] <F41l> Which makes no sense.
[22:10] <OerHeks> "They are Intel Atom x86 based Windows 8 tablets with 32bit EFI only no legacy bios options." the last past is not true, i guess, windows must startup legacy mode too, logically reading.
[22:11] <F41l> there is no way to disable efi
[22:13] <F41l> I went through 8 agents over the course of an hour and a half to find this out.
[22:13] <F41l> with dell
[22:14] <F41l> the two options, UEFI with secure-boot enabled, or, UEFI with secure-boot disabled.
[22:17] <F41l> I did have it scraping at elilo to do something once before, but I need to configure elilo successfully apparently.
[23:33] <danielboston26> test
[23:34] <danielboston26> hi
[23:34] <danielboston26> im having a issue installing updates
[23:34] <danielboston26> when i start the software updater i get this error
[23:35] <danielboston26> failed to download repository information check your internet connection
[23:35] <danielboston26> the problem is my internet connection is fine
[23:35] <danielboston26> what could be the issue?
[23:37] <danielboston26> hello?
[23:37] <danielboston26> is anyone here?
[23:38] <danielboston26> im having a issue installing updates
[23:47] <chewyboy000> Hi...
[23:54] <Copacetic> I am running kubuntu 13.04, I have a set of wireless headphones (G930), my system sounds work, however sound in chrome and my media players don't work
[23:55] <Copacetic> what is weird is that in dolphin I can hear a mp3 if I play it using the preview