garthI need help getting my Epson Stylus NX330 scanner to work on lubuntu 10.04 (the printer part works fine).  I have installed the core and data package iscan-data_1.23.0-1_all.deb and iscan_2.29.1-5~usb0.1.ltdl7_i386.deb.  I also installed the network package iscan-network-nt_1.1.0-2_i386.deb.  Still simple scan says it can not scan, and locks up the printer when I try.00:13
freakingmartinHow do i force install this driver? amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-legacy-linux-x86.x86_64.run00:39
SonikkuAmericaOh there you are.00:43
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freakingmartinHow do i force install this driver? amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-legacy-linux-x86.x86_64.run00:44
SonikkuAmerica[ cd ] to the directory it's in, [ chmod +x amd-driver-blahblahblah.run ; ./ amd-...-64.run ]00:44
SonikkuAmericaIf it says "Operation not permitted" use sudo00:44
freakingmartinOk i did that but then it tells me that i am missing a tool, linux headers, then it says use the installer with --force option00:45
SonikkuAmerica[ sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` ]00:48
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freakingmartini got this E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)00:49
freakingmartinE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?00:49
freakingmartinoh nvm i just had to close synaptic package manager00:51
freakingmartinbut then i got this [sudo] password for martin:00:51
freakingmartinReading package lists... Done00:51
freakingmartinBuilding dependency tree00:51
freakingmartinReading state information... Done00:51
freakingmartinlinux-headers-3.8.0-26-generic is already the newest version.00:51
freakingmartin0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.00:51
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freakingmartinOh my apologies for flood00:52
SonikkuAmericaOK, then [ chmod +x amd...64.run ; ./amd...64.run --force ]00:52
SonikkuAmericaThen check in [ software-properties-gtk ] to make sure you don't need to do anything else in Additional Drivers.00:54
freakingmartinNo additional drivers00:55
SonikkuAmericaExcellent. Then reboot.00:56
freakingmartindont i need to sudo sh?00:56
freakingmartinjust making sure00:56
SonikkuAmericaIt's a .run file, I don't think it'll be recognized from sh00:56
SonikkuAmerica./ works for everything.00:57
SonikkuAmericaUse sudo if ./ alone doesn't work.00:57
freakingmartini did sudo sh and it opens up the ati instatller00:57
SonikkuAmericaThen it's fine. After it runs successfully, reboot.00:57
freakingmartinits runing00:58
freakingmartini get a message00:58
freakingmartinmaybe i need to get a linux header patch for the driver?00:59
SonikkuAmericaUnless you have an old AMD Catalyst card which AMD doesn't support00:59
SonikkuAmerica[ lspci ]00:59
freakingmartini did00:59
freakingmartinwell i have 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4225/4250]01:00
freakingmartinwhich is supposedly compatible with the driver im trying to install?01:00
SonikkuAmericaIt could be the driver was only compatible with an older kernel.01:02
freakingmartinthis is the page for more information about the driver http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeon_linux.aspx01:02
freakingmartincan i downgrade my kernel? or is that highly not recommended?01:03
SonikkuAmericafreakingmartin: You're sunk with this 12.10+ anyway: "Automated installer and Display Drivers for Xorg 6.9 to Xserver 1.12 and Kernel version up to 3.4"01:04
garthAny ideas about how I can get my scanner to work?  It starts to scan, but then there is a "communication error with the scanner"01:04
SonikkuAmericafreakingmartin: Your best bet would be to use 12.04 LTS, but it might be broken by xserver-xorg-lts-quantal+01:06
freakingmartinim using lubuntu 13.04 raring ringtail01:06
garthMy computer is too old to run those01:06
freakingmartin12.04 is basicly the same as 13.04 right?01:07
freakingmartinbasically *01:07
freakingmartinis it slower?01:07
SonikkuAmericaDifferent kernel, artwork, etc. (and in Lubuntu it's not even an LTS)01:08
SonikkuAmericaIt does use 3.2.x though01:08
freakingmartinIs LTS good?01:08
SonikkuAmericafor a kernel. And no, I just remembered that 12.04 is NOT a Lubuntu LTS, our first being 14.0101:08
garthThe chip doesn't support something the kernel requires after 10.0401:09
freakingmartinWould my driver actually make a difference any way for FPS on games for java and stuff.01:10
freakingmartinWhen i Play Minecraft the FPS is usually like 2901:10
freakingmartineven with optify01:10
freakingmartinits all good i found a patch for my kernal thanks for the help Sonik01:23
SonikkuAmericaOh you found one, nice! And, you're welcome.01:23
James0ranyone have some experience with cairo-dock on lubuntu?03:21
holsteinJames0r: i have used it03:21
holsteinyou'll need a compositor AFAIK.. i used to just use xcompmgr03:22
holstein!info xcompmgr03:22
ubottuxcompmgr (source: xcompmgr): X composition manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.6-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 17 kB, installed size 69 kB03:22
James0ryeah i figured out the compositor issue. i installed xcompmgr and it works fine.03:22
James0rjust a minor thing, when i add XChat to the menu it just wouldn't act right. i.e. wouldn't exec at first. had to add the cmd manually. then while it's running it wont display the light under the icon like the others03:23
James0rreally minor, just wondering if anyone else fixed this kinda thing03:23
Unit193There's also the lubuntu blog posts on eyecandy, http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/2010/09/eyecandy-again-and-enhanced.html being one of them.03:26
James0ri'm pretty new to linux and even more so to Lubuntu, what is Openbox? is it a DE?03:28
Unit193No, it's the WM used in Lubuntu.03:28
James0roh okay. i've just been kind of ignoring references to it in tutorials and acting like i was using it. Good to know i am :)03:29
Unit193You're using LXDE generally, but you do use openbox "under the hood"03:29
James0ris it accurate to say that LXDE is sort of a layer on top of the WM (Openbox)?03:30
holsteinJames0r: you can say, LXDE is a desktop environment, which uses the openbox window manager03:31
James0rholstein: gotcha03:33
James0rso I have Linux Mint set up on my notebook, what WM does that use?03:33
James0ris that xwindows?03:33
James0roh maybe on the release eh?03:34
holsteinthere are many types03:34
James0rdo you know of a way to change the color of the items in the system tray?03:34
ianorlinhmm my battery meter is not going down04:39
ianorlinand I have been on battery for over an hour04:39
James0rany idea why i can't drag-and-drop to the Directory Tree in PCMan?04:48
holsteinJames0r: permissions, maybe04:48
holsteinianorlin: i have very good batter life on my eeepc's. i would wait til you drain it out, or check manually if you can04:49
ianorlinyep it has discharged some04:50
ianorlinI just unplugged it not putting it on suspend or anything04:50
James0rholstein: same thing happens as root04:50
holsteinJames0r: im not sure, friend.. i would try moving in the command line, and see if it goes, or if you have any helpful errors04:51
James0rholstein: copy pasting in pcman works04:52
holsteinJames0r: you can lead with that in the future, since that confirms there is no permission issue04:52
holsteinJames0r: i say, its in the UI.. you are trying to do something the UI is not intended to do04:53
James0rthink it's a bug?04:53
holsteinJames0r: no, i dont.. but it certainly could be04:54
ianorlinwould restearting xfce4 power manager maybe fix it04:54
holsteinianorlin: i dont think anything is broken04:54
ianorlinI checked and I am a little under half on a power meter on the battery hardware04:56
holsteinianorlin: assuming you have an issue, these issues can be tricky04:56
James0rif i plugin a usb flash drive should i see it mounted automatically on the desktop?04:56
holsteinwhat would i do? try some live CD's and see if anything "just works" ianorlin ...and make a note of what is going on in the distro04:57
holsteinJames0r: if you have that setup.. if not, you wont04:57
James0rholstein: how do i set this up?04:57
holsteinJames0r: i remember it being in the right click menu.. to show the icons or not.. and in the filemager settings to mount or not automatically04:58
James0rholstein: right clicking on the desktop? i see no options there04:59
James0rholstein: i'll check file manager04:59
holsteinJames0r: i dont have LXDE running in front of me, but you should see options for showing icons on the desktop for mounted volumets04:59
James0rholstein: file manager says it is set up to automatically mount removable drivers but it's not working for me right now05:00
ianorlinhmm plugged it in and now says 35%05:00
holsteinJames0r: not showing on the desktop? or not mounting?05:01
holsteinianorlin: i wouldnt lose sleep over it just yet.. if you literally just installed.. i would update and test05:02
holsteinJames0r: not showing on the desktop? or not mounting?05:02
James0rholstein: looks like both. i'm gonna try the drive on another system05:02
holsteinJames0r: try mounting it manually05:02
joshu_hi cross posting here from #ubuntu.08:22
joshu_ hi for ubuntu mini it there's a note that says "While the mini ISO is handy, it isn't useful for installing on UEFI-based systems that you want to run in UEFI mode. The mini lacks the proper files for booting the computer in UEFI mode. Thus, the computer will boot in BIOS compatibility mode, and the installation will be in BIOS mode. "08:22
joshu_can someone please explain what this means, e.g. are there any performance or other negative effects?08:23
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llogiqHi folks12:21
llogiqI have a problem w/ my wife's notebook (12.10) - mtp devices exhibit connection timeouts and then show up multiple times. When I finally manage to connect, I get timeouts on reading.12:24
llogiqI get the problem w/ our camera and my android phone.12:25
llogiqI have no probs with removing fuse/gvfs and using specialized tools to access the devices.12:26
* llogiq needs to reconnect. Laters...12:29
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joshu_Unit193 hi19:42
joshu_Unit193 do you have any advice/ experience with creating a custom ubuntu version?20:01
Unit193You can use the Debian live tools to build one, and you can also go about "remastering" a current one.20:04
joshu_Unit193 if I'm starting with Ubuntu mini and adding things how do I deploy this custom image in a suitable way? I've read a little about pressed, ubuntu builder, but I've not done this before.20:05
Unit193I've not yet tried with the mini, but should be able to see how Ubuntu officially builds it's ISOs, though it may not be the most easy way.  I've looked at the scripts, they may not be hard but they sure are long reads. :P20:09
joshu_Hmm…what would you do if you were in my position?20:10
Unit193If you want to deploy the same system to more than one computers, and they are the same hardware, you can just clone them.20:11
joshu_yes deploying to 5 identical laptops20:12
Unit193I'd personally clone.20:12
joshu_and I'm doing the development in a virtual machine using VMware Fusion on my Mac. Would you then take that VM and make an image and then deploy that?20:13
joshu_Do I need to make any customisation per deployment?20:13
Unit193Well, I'd make the "master" from the actual hardware I'm going to be using it on, and in theory it should just take as if you pulled the HD out and put it in the other computer.20:14
joshu_ok I see what you mean20:15
Unit193Using clonezilla on smaller setups, anf FOG on large ones.20:17
joshu_I've heard of both but never used them.20:20
Unit193I've used clonezilla, it does the same thing as norton ghost, if you've heard of or used that one.20:22
joshu_yep used norton ghost for windows20:25
vale_hi everyone. I've just installed lubuntu on a PIII computer and, at reboot after the installation, I get nothing but a black flashing screen with mouse pointer on it. the graphic card is an Asus V300520:34
Unit193Did the live session work?  Have you tried nomodeset?  Can you get to the grub boot menu?20:38
vale_no, no and no20:38
vale_also, grub menu doesn't seem to appear, since lubuntu it's the only OS on it20:39
Unit193You'd have to press left shift, and you can also set nomodeset there.20:39
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter20:39
vale_actually, I didn't try the live since i've installed from minimal cd20:40
vale_ok, I'm gonna try nomode right now20:40
vale_ok, I have to use web archive for the nomode guide on ubuntu forum20:44
vale_nope, it's not working20:44
vale_mh, with nomodeset I can get the logo of lubuntu, but nothing else20:52
vale_it just appear and disappear over and over again20:52
vale_it doesn't work. any other suggestion?21:07
MasterBotI would like some help: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=10592521:08
joshu_Unit193 have you used clonezilla over the internet?21:27
phillwvale_: what version of lubuntu are you trying to install?21:48
phillwjoshu_: I've used https://filezilla-project.org/ which does support ftps (I don't think it supports vsftp).21:51
vale_phillw 13.0421:51
vale_I'm trying to reinstall it with nomodeset selected before the installation21:52
phillwvale_: try 12.04 I think it was more PIII friendly. What can be done depends on your machine, and getting a working install onto it would allow you you post up the specs of CPU, RAM, GPU etc.21:54
vale_it's a PIII, asus P3B-F MB, asus V3005 GPU, 452 MB RAM21:59
vale_20 GB HD, if it's of any use22:00
phillwvale_: that mother board supports a lot of CPU's ( http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/list.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=P3B-F&p=1 ) So, I do recommend you see if it is happy with 12.04 and then we can get a full system specification off your machine.22:08
vale_so I should try installing 12.04?22:08
phillwvale_:  yes :)22:09
vale_ok, just the time to download it while the pc finishes installing 13.04 with nomodeset, just to see what happens22:10
phillwno harm in having a plan 'B' :)22:10
joshu_i'll have a look phillw22:13
joshu_so with Clonezilla and ubuntu there's no sys prep type of activity as is on Windows to make sure that each OS is unique? I can install my custom OS as I want on a laptop and then use clonezilla to deploy it to the other identical machines?22:14
vale_of course :D22:14
vale_11 minutes for the DL to be done, and unknown time for the installation22:21
n00b33anybody familiare with the google-earth package?22:38
vale_ok, the installation in nomodeset didn't go well, I'm gonna try version 12.0422:49
luwhoI would like to thank anybody that had any part of development in lubuntu.  Have a great day23:25
phillwjoshu_: clonezilla != ubuntu, it is an application23:43
joshu_phillw yes I know ;)23:43
phillwjoshu_: clonezilla does EXACTLY what it says on the tin :) ... it is a front end GUI to dd ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix) ) And, if any one ever wonders why it is not called cc (copy and convert) it is because those two letters had been used cor 'C' compiler... :D23:46
joshu_phillw hehe ok23:49
joshu_have you ever used it over the WAN?23:49
phillwdd, for newcomers, is now nicknamed 'Disk Destroyer'.23:49
phillwyou would use something like scp over WAN, the likes of dd copy in open format (i.e. no encryption).23:50
joshu_ok just thought maybe clonezilla had WAN capability23:52
joshu_not essential just thinking about my remote support options23:52
gohstHi, has anyone here expirience with earcandy? I'm trying to make it work on lubuntu 13.04 but it doesnt! I ddl it from the project site on launchpad but it doesn't work, has anyone expirience with it?23:58

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