[00:13] <garth> I need help getting my Epson Stylus NX330 scanner to work on lubuntu 10.04 (the printer part works fine).  I have installed the core and data package iscan-data_1.23.0-1_all.deb and iscan_2.29.1-5~usb0.1.ltdl7_i386.deb.  I also installed the network package iscan-network-nt_1.1.0-2_i386.deb.  Still simple scan says it can not scan, and locks up the printer when I try.
[00:39] <freakingmartin> How do i force install this driver? amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-legacy-linux-x86.x86_64.run
[00:40] <freakingmartin> Hello
[00:43] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh there you are.
[00:43] <SonikkuAmerica> !pm
[00:43] <SonikkuAmerica> Normal
[00:44] <freakingmartin> How do i force install this driver? amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-legacy-linux-x86.x86_64.run
[00:44] <SonikkuAmerica> [ cd ] to the directory it's in, [ chmod +x amd-driver-blahblahblah.run ; ./ amd-...-64.run ]
[00:44] <SonikkuAmerica> If it says "Operation not permitted" use sudo
[00:45] <freakingmartin> Ok i did that but then it tells me that i am missing a tool, linux headers, then it says use the installer with --force option
[00:48] <SonikkuAmerica> [ sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` ]
[00:48] <SonikkuAmerica> (Accent graves are REQUIRED)
[00:49] <freakingmartin> i got this E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[00:49] <freakingmartin> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[00:51] <freakingmartin> oh nvm i just had to close synaptic package manager
[00:51] <freakingmartin> but then i got this [sudo] password for martin:
[00:51] <freakingmartin> Reading package lists... Done
[00:51] <freakingmartin> Building dependency tree
[00:51] <freakingmartin> Reading state information... Done
[00:51] <freakingmartin> linux-headers-3.8.0-26-generic is already the newest version.
[00:51] <freakingmartin> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[00:51] <SonikkuAmerica> (Accent gràve is the key to the left of the number '1'
[00:52] <SonikkuAmerica> !flood
[00:52] <freakingmartin> Oh my apologies for flood
[00:52] <SonikkuAmerica> OK, then [ chmod +x amd...64.run ; ./amd...64.run --force ]
[00:54] <freakingmartin> ok
[00:54] <freakingmartin> done
[00:54] <SonikkuAmerica> Then check in [ software-properties-gtk ] to make sure you don't need to do anything else in Additional Drivers.
[00:55] <freakingmartin> No additional drivers
[00:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Excellent. Then reboot.
[00:56] <freakingmartin> dont i need to sudo sh?
[00:56] <freakingmartin> just making sure
[00:56] <SonikkuAmerica> It's a .run file, I don't think it'll be recognized from sh
[00:57] <SonikkuAmerica> ./ works for everything.
[00:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Use sudo if ./ alone doesn't work.
[00:57] <freakingmartin> i did sudo sh and it opens up the ati instatller
[00:57] <freakingmartin> installer
[00:57] <SonikkuAmerica> OK
[00:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Then it's fine. After it runs successfully, reboot.
[00:58] <freakingmartin> its runing
[00:58] <freakingmartin> i get a message
[00:59] <freakingmartin> maybe i need to get a linux header patch for the driver?
[00:59] <SonikkuAmerica> Unless you have an old AMD Catalyst card which AMD doesn't support
[00:59] <SonikkuAmerica> [ lspci ]
[00:59] <freakingmartin> i did
[01:00] <freakingmartin> hold
[01:00] <freakingmartin> up
[01:00] <freakingmartin> well i have 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4225/4250]
[01:00] <freakingmartin> which is supposedly compatible with the driver im trying to install?
[01:02] <SonikkuAmerica> It could be the driver was only compatible with an older kernel.
[01:02] <freakingmartin> this is the page for more information about the driver http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeon_linux.aspx
[01:03] <freakingmartin> can i downgrade my kernel? or is that highly not recommended?
[01:04] <SonikkuAmerica> freakingmartin: You're sunk with this 12.10+ anyway: "Automated installer and Display Drivers for Xorg 6.9 to Xserver 1.12 and Kernel version up to 3.4"
[01:04] <garth> Any ideas about how I can get my scanner to work?  It starts to scan, but then there is a "communication error with the scanner"
[01:06] <SonikkuAmerica> freakingmartin: Your best bet would be to use 12.04 LTS, but it might be broken by xserver-xorg-lts-quantal+
[01:06] <freakingmartin> im using lubuntu 13.04 raring ringtail
[01:06] <garth> My computer is too old to run those
[01:07] <freakingmartin> 12.04 is basicly the same as 13.04 right?
[01:07] <freakingmartin> basically *
[01:07] <SonikkuAmerica> Nope.
[01:07] <freakingmartin> is it slower?
[01:08] <SonikkuAmerica> Different kernel, artwork, etc. (and in Lubuntu it's not even an LTS)
[01:08] <SonikkuAmerica> It does use 3.2.x though
[01:08] <freakingmartin> Is LTS good?
[01:08] <SonikkuAmerica> for a kernel. And no, I just remembered that 12.04 is NOT a Lubuntu LTS, our first being 14.01
[01:08] <SonikkuAmerica> *14.04
[01:09] <garth> The chip doesn't support something the kernel requires after 10.04
[01:10] <freakingmartin> Would my driver actually make a difference any way for FPS on games for java and stuff.
[01:10] <freakingmartin> When i Play Minecraft the FPS is usually like 29
[01:10] <freakingmartin> even with optify
[01:23] <freakingmartin> its all good i found a patch for my kernal thanks for the help Sonik
[01:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh you found one, nice! And, you're welcome.
[03:21] <James0r> anyone have some experience with cairo-dock on lubuntu?
[03:21] <holstein> James0r: i have used it
[03:22] <holstein> you'll need a compositor AFAIK.. i used to just use xcompmgr
[03:22] <holstein> !info xcompmgr
[03:22] <James0r> yeah i figured out the compositor issue. i installed xcompmgr and it works fine.
[03:23] <James0r> just a minor thing, when i add XChat to the menu it just wouldn't act right. i.e. wouldn't exec at first. had to add the cmd manually. then while it's running it wont display the light under the icon like the others
[03:23] <James0r> really minor, just wondering if anyone else fixed this kinda thing
[03:26] <Unit193> There's also the lubuntu blog posts on eyecandy, http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/2010/09/eyecandy-again-and-enhanced.html being one of them.
[03:28] <James0r> i'm pretty new to linux and even more so to Lubuntu, what is Openbox? is it a DE?
[03:28] <Unit193> No, it's the WM used in Lubuntu.
[03:29] <James0r> oh okay. i've just been kind of ignoring references to it in tutorials and acting like i was using it. Good to know i am :)
[03:29] <Unit193> You're using LXDE generally, but you do use openbox "under the hood"
[03:30] <James0r> is it accurate to say that LXDE is sort of a layer on top of the WM (Openbox)?
[03:31] <holstein> James0r: you can say, LXDE is a desktop environment, which uses the openbox window manager
[03:33] <James0r> holstein: gotcha
[03:33] <James0r> so I have Linux Mint set up on my notebook, what WM does that use?
[03:33] <holstein> depends
[03:33] <James0r> is that xwindows?
[03:34] <James0r> oh maybe on the release eh?
[03:34] <holstein> there are many types
[03:34] <James0r> do you know of a way to change the color of the items in the system tray?
[04:39] <ianorlin> hmm my battery meter is not going down
[04:39] <ianorlin> and I have been on battery for over an hour
[04:48] <James0r> any idea why i can't drag-and-drop to the Directory Tree in PCMan?
[04:48] <holstein> James0r: permissions, maybe
[04:49] <holstein> ianorlin: i have very good batter life on my eeepc's. i would wait til you drain it out, or check manually if you can
[04:50] <ianorlin> yep it has discharged some
[04:50] <ianorlin> I just unplugged it not putting it on suspend or anything
[04:50] <James0r> holstein: same thing happens as root
[04:51] <holstein> James0r: im not sure, friend.. i would try moving in the command line, and see if it goes, or if you have any helpful errors
[04:52] <James0r> holstein: copy pasting in pcman works
[04:52] <holstein> James0r: you can lead with that in the future, since that confirms there is no permission issue
[04:53] <holstein> James0r: i say, its in the UI.. you are trying to do something the UI is not intended to do
[04:53] <James0r> think it's a bug?
[04:54] <holstein> James0r: no, i dont.. but it certainly could be
[04:54] <ianorlin> would restearting xfce4 power manager maybe fix it
[04:54] <holstein> ianorlin: i dont think anything is broken
[04:56] <ianorlin> I checked and I am a little under half on a power meter on the battery hardware
[04:56] <holstein> ianorlin: assuming you have an issue, these issues can be tricky
[04:56] <James0r> if i plugin a usb flash drive should i see it mounted automatically on the desktop?
[04:57] <holstein> what would i do? try some live CD's and see if anything "just works" ianorlin ...and make a note of what is going on in the distro
[04:57] <holstein> James0r: if you have that setup.. if not, you wont
[04:57] <James0r> holstein: how do i set this up?
[04:58] <holstein> James0r: i remember it being in the right click menu.. to show the icons or not.. and in the filemager settings to mount or not automatically
[04:59] <James0r> holstein: right clicking on the desktop? i see no options there
[04:59] <James0r> holstein: i'll check file manager
[04:59] <holstein> James0r: i dont have LXDE running in front of me, but you should see options for showing icons on the desktop for mounted volumets
[04:59] <holstein> volumes
[05:00] <James0r> holstein: file manager says it is set up to automatically mount removable drivers but it's not working for me right now
[05:00] <ianorlin> hmm plugged it in and now says 35%
[05:01] <holstein> James0r: not showing on the desktop? or not mounting?
[05:02] <holstein> ianorlin: i wouldnt lose sleep over it just yet.. if you literally just installed.. i would update and test
[05:02] <holstein> James0r: not showing on the desktop? or not mounting?
[05:02] <James0r> holstein: looks like both. i'm gonna try the drive on another system
[05:02] <holstein> James0r: try mounting it manually
[08:22] <joshu_> hi cross posting here from #ubuntu.
[08:22] <joshu_> 	 hi for ubuntu mini it there's a note that says "While the mini ISO is handy, it isn't useful for installing on UEFI-based systems that you want to run in UEFI mode. The mini lacks the proper files for booting the computer in UEFI mode. Thus, the computer will boot in BIOS compatibility mode, and the installation will be in BIOS mode. "
[08:23] <joshu_> can someone please explain what this means, e.g. are there any performance or other negative effects?
[12:21] <llogiq> Hi folks
[12:24] <llogiq> I have a problem w/ my wife's notebook (12.10) - mtp devices exhibit connection timeouts and then show up multiple times. When I finally manage to connect, I get timeouts on reading.
[12:25] <llogiq> I get the problem w/ our camera and my android phone.
[12:26] <llogiq> I have no probs with removing fuse/gvfs and using specialized tools to access the devices.
[12:29]  * llogiq needs to reconnect. Laters...
[12:33] <llogiq> Anyone?
[19:42] <joshu_> Unit193 hi
[20:00] <Unit193> Hello.
[20:01] <joshu_> Unit193 do you have any advice/ experience with creating a custom ubuntu version?
[20:04] <Unit193> You can use the Debian live tools to build one, and you can also go about "remastering" a current one.
[20:04] <Unit193> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[20:05] <joshu_> Unit193 if I'm starting with Ubuntu mini and adding things how do I deploy this custom image in a suitable way? I've read a little about pressed, ubuntu builder, but I've not done this before.
[20:09] <Unit193> I've not yet tried with the mini, but should be able to see how Ubuntu officially builds it's ISOs, though it may not be the most easy way.  I've looked at the scripts, they may not be hard but they sure are long reads. :P
[20:10] <joshu_> Hmm…what would you do if you were in my position?
[20:11] <Unit193> If you want to deploy the same system to more than one computers, and they are the same hardware, you can just clone them.
[20:12] <joshu_> yes deploying to 5 identical laptops
[20:12] <Unit193> I'd personally clone.
[20:13] <joshu_> and I'm doing the development in a virtual machine using VMware Fusion on my Mac. Would you then take that VM and make an image and then deploy that?
[20:13] <joshu_> Do I need to make any customisation per deployment?
[20:14] <Unit193> Well, I'd make the "master" from the actual hardware I'm going to be using it on, and in theory it should just take as if you pulled the HD out and put it in the other computer.
[20:15] <joshu_> ok I see what you mean
[20:17] <Unit193> Using clonezilla on smaller setups, anf FOG on large ones.
[20:20] <joshu_> I've heard of both but never used them.
[20:22] <Unit193> I've used clonezilla, it does the same thing as norton ghost, if you've heard of or used that one.
[20:25] <joshu_> yep used norton ghost for windows
[20:34] <vale_> hi everyone. I've just installed lubuntu on a PIII computer and, at reboot after the installation, I get nothing but a black flashing screen with mouse pointer on it. the graphic card is an Asus V3005
[20:38] <Unit193> Did the live session work?  Have you tried nomodeset?  Can you get to the grub boot menu?
[20:38] <vale_> no, no and no
[20:39] <vale_> also, grub menu doesn't seem to appear, since lubuntu it's the only OS on it
[20:39] <Unit193> You'd have to press left shift, and you can also set nomodeset there.
[20:39] <Unit193> !nomodeset
[20:40] <vale_> actually, I didn't try the live since i've installed from minimal cd
[20:40] <vale_> ok, I'm gonna try nomode right now
[20:44] <vale_> ok, I have to use web archive for the nomode guide on ubuntu forum
[20:44] <vale_> nope, it's not working
[20:52] <vale_> mh, with nomodeset I can get the logo of lubuntu, but nothing else
[20:52] <vale_> it just appear and disappear over and over again
[21:07] <vale_> it doesn't work. any other suggestion?
[21:07] <MasterBot> Hello
[21:08] <MasterBot> I would like some help: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=105925
[21:27] <joshu_> Unit193 have you used clonezilla over the internet?
[21:31] <Unit193> Nope.
[21:48] <phillw> vale_: what version of lubuntu are you trying to install?
[21:51] <phillw> joshu_: I've used https://filezilla-project.org/ which does support ftps (I don't think it supports vsftp).
[21:51] <phillw> s/ftps/sftp/
[21:51] <vale_> phillw 13.04
[21:52] <vale_> I'm trying to reinstall it with nomodeset selected before the installation
[21:54] <phillw> vale_: try 12.04 I think it was more PIII friendly. What can be done depends on your machine, and getting a working install onto it would allow you you post up the specs of CPU, RAM, GPU etc.
[21:59] <vale_> it's a PIII, asus P3B-F MB, asus V3005 GPU, 452 MB RAM
[22:00] <vale_> 20 GB HD, if it's of any use
[22:08] <phillw> vale_: that mother board supports a lot of CPU's ( http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/list.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=P3B-F&p=1 ) So, I do recommend you see if it is happy with 12.04 and then we can get a full system specification off your machine.
[22:08] <vale_> so I should try installing 12.04?
[22:09] <phillw> vale_:  yes :)
[22:10] <vale_> ok, just the time to download it while the pc finishes installing 13.04 with nomodeset, just to see what happens
[22:10] <phillw> no harm in having a plan 'B' :)
[22:13] <joshu_> i'll have a look phillw
[22:14] <joshu_> so with Clonezilla and ubuntu there's no sys prep type of activity as is on Windows to make sure that each OS is unique? I can install my custom OS as I want on a laptop and then use clonezilla to deploy it to the other identical machines?
[22:14] <vale_> of course :D
[22:21] <vale_> 11 minutes for the DL to be done, and unknown time for the installation
[22:38] <n00b33> anybody familiare with the google-earth package?
[22:49] <vale_> ok, the installation in nomodeset didn't go well, I'm gonna try version 12.04
[23:25] <luwho> I would like to thank anybody that had any part of development in lubuntu.  Have a great day
[23:43] <phillw> joshu_: clonezilla != ubuntu, it is an application
[23:43] <joshu_> phillw yes I know ;)
[23:46] <phillw> joshu_: clonezilla does EXACTLY what it says on the tin :) ... it is a front end GUI to dd ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix) ) And, if any one ever wonders why it is not called cc (copy and convert) it is because those two letters had been used cor 'C' compiler... :D
[23:46] <phillw> s/cor/for/
[23:49] <joshu_> phillw hehe ok
[23:49] <joshu_> have you ever used it over the WAN?
[23:49] <phillw> dd, for newcomers, is now nicknamed 'Disk Destroyer'.
[23:50] <phillw> you would use something like scp over WAN, the likes of dd copy in open format (i.e. no encryption).
[23:52] <joshu_> ok just thought maybe clonezilla had WAN capability
[23:52] <joshu_> not essential just thinking about my remote support options
[23:58] <gohst> Hi, has anyone here expirience with earcandy? I'm trying to make it work on lubuntu 13.04 but it doesnt! I ddl it from the project site on launchpad but it doesn't work, has anyone expirience with it?