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| * barry waves | 13:01 | |
| lool | hey | 13:01 |
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| lool | stgraber, ondra, ogra_: heyo | 13:01 |
| ogra_ | moo | 13:01 |
| lool | barry: should we start with download service? | 13:02 |
| barry | lool: sure | 13:02 |
| barry | so, i uploaded a new version last night with dbus support | 13:02 |
| barry | stgraber: pointed to a problem with config file updates: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-image/+bug/1204090 | 13:03 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1204090 in Ubuntu system image "Drop 'device' from client.ini" [Critical,In progress] | 13:03 |
| barry | so i'll be getting an 0.8 out this morning | 13:03 |
| barry | had a chat with seb yesterday. his team was going to start work on the update ui. i'll circle round to him today, though i am on patch pilot for at least half the day | 13:03 |
| lool | barry: so even after deleting client.ini today, I'll have to repeat every day until this is solved? | 13:04 |
| barry | we sketched out a very basic interaction pattern, so i think the minimal ui will be doable | 13:04 |
| ondra | lool: hey | 13:04 |
| barry | lool: yeah, but hopefully "every day" will be just "today" | 13:04 |
| barry | 0.8 will have only this fix and then you won't have to edit client.ini to set the device model any more | 13:05 |
| barry | anyway, i think that's about it for the client | 13:05 |
| lool | barry: so when do you think you would have a simple UI for an update? (even if partial) | 13:05 |
| barry | d/l service. i have to circle back to mandel to see where/when/if that is landing | 13:05 |
| lool | barry: download service should be all landed now | 13:06 |
| barry | lool: ah, good. | 13:06 |
| barry | lool: i'm still aiming for tomorrow | 13:06 |
| barry | (on the ui | 13:06 |
| barry | ) | 13:06 |
| lool | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-download-manager | 13:06 |
| lool | libubuntudownloadmanager1 and ubuntu-download-manager are in the images | 13:07 |
| lool | barry: ok | 13:07 |
| barry | excellent. i'm still not going to integrate that until after the demo most likely | 13:07 |
| barry | done | 13:07 |
| lool | barry: yeah; we had noted the download service as an action on you last week, just wanted to close this topic | 13:07 |
| lool | since it's all landed now | 13:07 |
| barry | +1 | 13:07 |
| lool | oh wow, we even have unity-scope-click in the image too ! | 13:07 |
| sergiusens | lool: beuno was going to demo that afaik | 13:08 |
| lool | sergiusens: yeah | 13:08 |
| lool | so I think stgraber isn't around | 13:08 |
| lool | he was to land gpg in recovery | 13:09 |
| lool | but basically everything is landed, updater is announced for adventurous folks | 13:09 |
| ogra_ | isnt that n since days | 13:09 |
| ogra_ | ? | 13:09 |
| lool | and we had various issues at the time of launch and since the launch | 13:09 |
| lool | but getting resolved | 13:09 |
| ogra_ | though we havent released images since 5 days due to the new policies | 13:09 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: stgraber pulls from pending to rebuild the images | 13:10 |
| lool | ogra_: yeah but update imgaes are generated from latest image rather than current, so it still works | 13:10 |
| barry | ogra_: new policies? | 13:10 |
| ogra_ | (and i expect releases to not happen for a while until all bits ship full tests that utah can run) | 13:10 |
| ogra_ | barry, 100% test coverage on the dashboard now | 13:10 |
| barry | ah | 13:10 |
| ogra_ | lool, well, we will need a full test of the bits that got added to recovery ... | 13:10 |
| lool | barry: now that I read it more carefully, I don't understand how LP 1204090 is critical; is that in the case where the model detection would change over time?!? | 13:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1204090 in Ubuntu system image "Drop 'device' from client.ini" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1204090 | 13:11 |
| ogra_ | theoretically we couldnt release atm | 13:11 |
| ogra_ | after asac's definition | 13:11 |
| lool | ogra_: not sure what you mean | 13:11 |
| lool | ogra_: you mean add new testsuites to cover the new bits? | 13:11 |
| ogra_ | lool, we add ubuntu code to recvery that has zero tests | 13:11 |
| ogra_ | by the new definition that isnt releasable | 13:11 |
| ogra_ | so testing gpg and the ubuntu updater scripts would be needed | 13:12 |
| ogra_ | and proper integration into utah | 13:12 |
| barry | lool: no. if future changes are made to client.ini, they most likely won't get installed (at least easily) since conffile will see a local edit. i think the point is to remove the need for almost everyone to edit their client.ini file. | 13:12 |
| lool | barry: oh ok | 13:12 |
| lool | barry: sorry, I get it now | 13:12 |
| lool | barry: I thought it was entirely generated | 13:12 |
| lool | but it's a conffile *and* gets updated after install, and wont get updated on upgrades anymore | 13:12 |
| lool | ok | 13:12 |
| barry | nope. maybe i'll port gentoo's conffile update system to debian :) | 13:13 |
| lool | barry: there's ucf too | 13:13 |
| barry | yeah | 13:13 |
| lool | but this only concerns people who have renabled apt, right?> | 13:13 |
| barry | it's better to query the system for the device name anyway | 13:13 |
| lool | otherwise you get the new conffile overwritten by a system image update? | 13:13 |
| barry | i think that's right | 13:14 |
| lool | ogra_: so we do have tests in certain places, but not for everything | 13:14 |
| ogra_ | lool, right | 13:14 |
| lool | ogra_: we also lack end-to-end integration tests | 13:14 |
| ogra_ | and new features need to ship tests alongside | 13:14 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 13:14 |
| ogra_ | currently all we have are the app tests and default installability | 13:15 |
| ogra_ | bit for the recovery changes we need tests too | 13:15 |
| lool | I'm not sure how practical it would be to have them run daily; I don't really see how that would reasonnably be done, but we could e.g. run update tests from the latest release or something like that | 13:15 |
| ogra_ | and there should be a test that prevents stuff like above as well | 13:15 |
| ogra_ | (broken configs etc) | 13:15 |
| sergiusens | lool: the end to end stuff we can discuss in our meeting with QA later today | 13:15 |
| lool | sergiusens: yeah | 13:15 |
| ogra_ | http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/ | 13:16 |
| ogra_ | thats what we depend on now | 13:16 |
| ogra_ | and the next daily will only go out if all is green | 13:16 |
| lool | ogra_: right; but we need a base image to smoke test an update | 13:16 |
| ogra_ | (which i suspect might take until the weekend) | 13:16 |
| ogra_ | lool, right | 13:17 |
| lool | I think we covered all actions from last week | 13:17 |
| asac | i feel that daily-release should always use last /current + the proposed changes | 13:17 |
| asac | in that way we foster a culture of delivering something that will work in one shot | 13:17 |
| ogra_ | asac, that makes only sense if /current is actually daily | 13:17 |
| asac | rather than saying you can have multiple shots to get things right (e.g. we have an option to easily see results against /rpoposed) | 13:17 |
| asac | ogra_: sure. it only makes sense if we go strict | 13:17 |
| lool | so I guess the only remaining open topics are: a) barry adding UI (high) a') barry fixing LP 1204090 b) barry switching to download service (low) c) sergiusens / ogra_ / lool discussing integration tests | 13:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1204090 in Ubuntu system image "Drop 'device' from client.ini" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1204090 | 13:18 |
| barry | lool: seems reasonable | 13:18 |
| asac | on /etc ... I think it makes sense to put a zero /etc in any touch image policy | 13:18 |
| ogra_ | lool, sounds fine | 13:18 |
| asac | because its a half broken concept in the new world of system image updates | 13:18 |
| ogra_ | zero /etc ? | 13:18 |
| ogra_ | can you elaborate ? | 13:18 |
| asac | at best defaults are never shipped in /etc/ anyway, and we can provide other locations to change defaults through .DOT files | 13:18 |
| lool | asac: it's more of a template | 13:19 |
| asac | lool: those should go to /usr/share/docs :) | 13:19 |
| barry | asac: how does that work with convergence? | 13:19 |
| asac | right now in the linux world /etc is not cleanly designed | 13:19 |
| ogra_ | barry, we'll find out in the 14.04 cycle :) | 13:19 |
| asac | its used as one place for a) defaults (that should usually go into the app) and b) admininstrative/system wide changes | 13:19 |
| barry | ogra_: :) | 13:20 |
| asac | i think we hsould go clean about those two approaches in touch :) | 13:20 |
| asac | thats all i am saying (now i am out again) | 13:20 |
| lool | asac: I don't see a big gain in pushing defaults out of /etc | 13:20 |
| lool | this is make-work | 13:20 |
| lool | (like merging /usr/bin and /bin or renaming /etc to /config or something) | 13:21 |
| lool | anyway | 13:21 |
| asac | its not consisten behaviour | 13:21 |
| * ogra_ thought /etc is readonly anyway | 13:21 | |
| barry | well, at least let's say an irc comment leaves it a bit underspecified :) | 13:21 |
| asac | if apt is there | 13:21 |
| lool | seems we're getting a bit out of the topic | 13:21 |
| ogra_ | variable data needs to go into /data | 13:21 |
| asac | ogra_: not if apt is back i am sure | 13:21 |
| ogra_ | asac, ah, no, then not indeed | 13:21 |
| lool | ogra_: exactly; except in convergence, or if you swithc to developer mode | 13:21 |
| ogra_ | lool, i dont see why convergence would have to differ :) | 13:22 |
| ogra_ | but thats 14,04 stuff | 13:22 |
| ogra_ | not for now | 13:22 |
| lool | ogra_: because of the installer user bsae | 13:22 |
| lool | as in, today my /etc is r/w on my laptop | 13:22 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: if /etc is read only, where does network mananger setup it's configs? | 13:22 |
| lool | sergiusens: /dev/mmcblk0p9 on /var/lib/NetworkManager type ext4 (rw,relatime,user_xattr,acl,barrier=1,data=ordered) | 13:23 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, in a tmpfs overlay ? no idea | 13:23 |
| lool | sergiusens: bind mounts to writable space | 13:23 |
| * ogra_ needs to look into the setup this week | 13:23 | |
| * sergiusens needs to check | 13:23 | |
| ogra_ | i had planned to do an install this week | 13:23 |
| lool | sergiusens: sorry, I meant: /dev/mmcblk0p9 on /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections type ext4 (rw,relatime,user_xattr,acl,barrier=1,data=ordered) | 13:23 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 13:23 |
| ogra_ | thats /data | 13:23 |
| sergiusens | lool: and I thought you changed the location :-) | 13:23 |
| lool | the other is for more ephemeral stuff | 13:24 |
| lool | like dhcp leases and stuff | 13:24 |
| ogra_ | they go into /run anyway, no ? | 13:24 |
| lool | sergiusens: so basically anything which used to write to /var or /etc needs to be diverted to /data | 13:24 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 13:24 |
| asac | yeah :) | 13:24 |
| lool | ogra_: not that ephemeral | 13:25 |
| asac | and everything that is in /etc should rewally go to doc (template) or /usr/share/ (default settings) | 13:25 |
| lool | ogra_: you could remove it, but it's best to keep across reboots | 13:25 |
| asac | :() | 13:25 |
| lool | e.g. which ssids you've seen and such | 13:25 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 13:25 |
| ogra_ | asac, whats the benefit ? | 13:25 |
| * ogra_ doesnt see it | 13:25 | |
| lool | asac: I don't think we need to spend engineering cycles moving stuff around in gazillions of packages | 13:25 |
| ogra_ | if /etc is readonly anyway, why would you want to have apps read from a non std place | 13:26 |
| ogra_ | yeah, lool expressed that better | 13:26 |
| ogra_ | seems like a waste | 13:26 |
| lool | it's kind of funny to have this argument in this direction with asac | 13:26 |
| asac | well, i will cover this topic elsewhere... short term its not on topic | 13:26 |
| ogra_ | heh | 13:26 |
| lool | asac: you're supposed to be more pragmatic than me! and I ought to advocate beauty of the file hierarchy :-) | 13:27 |
| asac | i am pragmatic | 13:27 |
| lool | alright, almost out of time | 13:27 |
| * ogra_ sees no beauty in moving configs from /etc to /doc :) | 13:27 | |
| lool | barry, ondra, ogra_, sergiusens: Anything else we want to cover? | 13:27 |
| * barry is good | 13:27 | |
| lool | also, do we want to keep this meeting? | 13:27 |
| ogra_ | lool, do we know who will write tests ? | 13:27 |
| lool | perhaps until it's used by everyone? | 13:27 |
| ogra_ | (thats why i brought it up_ | 13:27 |
| ogra_ | i know stgraber will not be around (vacations, etc) | 13:28 |
| barry | lool: i think we're far enough along that it most likely won't be necessary for much longer | 13:28 |
| ogra_ | and we need to switch at some point | 13:28 |
| ondra | lool: not much from me, I haven't done much, only recent activity was to help stgraber to resolve gpg problem, but that was 1 tas | 13:28 |
| ogra_ | but we cant without having tests in place | 13:28 |
| lool | ogra_: I would think stgraber would write upgrade tests when he's back? | 13:28 |
| ogra_ | dunno, i think i remember something about three weeks | 13:29 |
| lool | barry: I'm thinking we should cancel next week then have one more meeting to plan enabling for everyone | 13:29 |
| ogra_ | with parts of that being on/off and parts of that being gone completely | 13:29 |
| lool | barry: or would you be interested in writing the upgrades tests in the next weeks? since stgraber is on leave, you might be a good candidate since you know the upgrade logic inside out :-) | 13:29 |
| lool | barry: would you want to join the call we have with QA folks later? | 13:29 |
| lool | ogra_: yeah; release sprint, debconf and other leaves | 13:30 |
| barry | lool: when's the call? | 13:30 |
| ogra_ | lool, right | 13:30 |
| lool | barry: 4pm UTC | 13:30 |
| lool | barry: adding you | 13:30 |
| lool | barry: feel free either way | 13:30 |
| lool | alright, closing this meeting them; have a good day everyone! | 13:31 |
| barry | lool: sure, np | 13:31 |
| lool | *then | 13:31 |
| barry | cheers! | 13:31 |
| lool | bye all | 13:31 |
| ondra | bye | 13:31 |
| sergiusens | see you on the channel to the left (or right) (irssi) | 13:31 |
| ogra_ | bye | 13:31 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, pfft ... below | 13:31 |
| ogra_ | (xchat) | 13:31 |
| sergiusens | lol | 13:32 |
| Laney | o/ | 15:32 |
| Laney | oops | 15:34 |
| l304 | o | 16:00 |
| hallyn | o/ | 16:00 |
| arosales | hello | 16:00 |
| jamespage | o/ | 16:00 |
| smb | \o | 16:01 |
| adam_g | o/ | 16:01 |
| jamespage | lets strt | 16:01 |
| jamespage | #startmeeting | 16:02 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Jul 23 16:02:00 2013 UTC. The chair is jamespage. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 16:02 |
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| jamespage | #topic review previous actions | 16:02 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: review previous actions | ||
| jamespage | rbasak to land delta report to lp:ubuntu-reports, Daviey to deploy | 16:02 |
| jamespage | rbasak, Daviey- hows that going? | 16:02 |
| jamespage | zul: | 16:03 |
| jamespage | zul has willfully volunteered to review and document what is blocking server related saucy-proposed migration excuses, with joy. | 16:03 |
| jamespage | I think thats all sorted now right | 16:03 |
| jamespage | ? | 16:03 |
| zul | bah | 16:03 |
| zul | almost apache2 again i think | 16:03 |
| zul | rbasak: ^^^ | 16:03 |
| jamespage | anyone actually here? | 16:04 |
| jamespage | lol | 16:04 |
| jamespage | anyway | 16:04 |
| jamespage | #action rbasak to land delta report to lp:ubuntu-reports, Daviey to deploy | 16:04 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to land delta report to lp:ubuntu-reports, Daviey to deploy | 16:04 |
| hallyn | my bot is... | 16:04 |
| jamespage | carried forward in their absence | 16:04 |
| jamespage | #topic Saucy Development | 16:04 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Saucy Development | ||
| jamespage | #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule | 16:05 |
| jamespage | Debian Import Freeze is on the 25th July - manual syncs after that point will be required | 16:05 |
| jamespage | alpha2 same week - we will be opting out again | 16:05 |
| jamespage | also worth noting that 12.04.3 is just under a month away | 16:06 |
| jamespage | the QA team now have some dkms auto-testing setup | 16:06 |
| jamespage | openvswitch and iscsitarget are going to need some attention in the next two weeks. | 16:06 |
| hallyn | ? | 16:06 |
| jamespage | (as are lots more I guess) | 16:06 |
| jamespage | hallyn, hardware enablement kernels | 16:07 |
| rbasak | Oops, sorry. ubuntu-reports is almost ready for an MP. apache2 is done. I'm preparing a merge with an upgrade path bug and SSL passphrase prompting fixed. | 16:07 |
| jamespage | 12.04.3 will get rarings 3.8 kernel | 16:07 |
| jamespage | rbasak, marvellous! | 16:07 |
| hallyn | jamespage: gotcha | 16:07 |
| jamespage | next | 16:07 |
| jamespage | #subtopic Release Bugs | 16:07 |
| jamespage | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-s-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server | 16:07 |
| jamespage | I still need to look at asm4 transitions | 16:08 |
| jamespage | and quantum service respawns | 16:08 |
| * jamespage berates himself again | 16:09 | |
| yolanda | lua5.2 is pending from review | 16:09 |
| jamespage | ack | 16:09 |
| hallyn | there's a yucky memleak in libvirt i need to look into | 16:09 |
| yolanda | rrdtool and rubyluabridge | 16:09 |
| rbasak | bug 1202653 should be targetted for Saucy. It's in hand though - I just want to fix SSL certificate prompting at the same time, write a dep8 test for that, and in any case proposed migration will be blocked as it's seeded in alpha-2 opt-in flavours. | 16:09 |
| jamespage | zul: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/+bug/1199791 | 16:09 |
| ubottu | bug 1202653 in apache2 (Ubuntu) "apache2 2.4.4-6ubuntu4 failed to upgrade: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so into server: undefined symbol: unixd_config" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1202653 | 16:09 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1199791 in nova (Ubuntu Saucy) "nova-compute-xcp misses nova-compute.conf" [High,Triaged] | 16:09 |
| jamespage | rbasak, done | 16:09 |
| zul | in progrress | 16:09 |
| rbasak | thanks | 16:09 |
| jamespage | zul, great - thanks | 16:09 |
| jamespage | looks like adam_g's cheetah fixup is almost done | 16:10 |
| adam_g | yup, should make its way out today | 16:11 |
| jamespage | rbasak, whats the latest on bug 1031680? | 16:12 |
| ubottu | bug 1031680 in nagios-plugins (Ubuntu Raring) "check_apt always report 0 critical updates" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031680 | 16:12 |
| jamespage | and that covers release bugs.... | 16:13 |
| jamespage | #subtopic Blueprints | 16:13 |
| rbasak | No progress. | 16:13 |
| jamespage | #link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-s/group/topic-s-servercloud-overview.html | 16:13 |
| jamespage | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-mongodb | 16:13 |
| jamespage | use of libv8 in the mongodb shell is causing some security concerns re supportability | 16:13 |
| jamespage | which is understandable | 16:13 |
| jamespage | looking at a shell disabled variant of the package - but I suspect thats worse than useless | 16:14 |
| jamespage | so we might be inthe position where mongodb is not suitable for main inclusion | 16:14 |
| jamespage | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-juju-2-delivery | 16:14 |
| jamespage | juju2 release going much smoother now | 16:14 |
| jamespage | two in the last week | 16:14 |
| jamespage | (one for OSCON) | 16:15 |
| jamespage | local provider has also landed if no-one noticed - works well (thanks thumper) | 16:15 |
| jamespage | roaksoax, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-openstack-charms-ha-v2 | 16:15 |
| jamespage | whats happening with HA stack for saucy? I know we have had a few conversations? | 16:15 |
| jamespage | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-ceph reappears | 16:16 |
| jamespage | utlemming, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-webscale | 16:16 |
| jamespage | utlemming, are you likely to have capacity to work on this blueprint this release? its already a carry over from raring | 16:16 |
| jamespage | zul: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-openstack-qa | 16:17 |
| jamespage | needs some updates | 16:17 |
| zul | jamespage: ack | 16:18 |
| jamespage | quite a few activities need to be worked on still this cycle there - might be work allocating out and postponing anything we know we won't get to this cycle | 16:18 |
| jamespage | adam_g, ^^ | 16:18 |
| hallyn | s/work/worth/ ? | 16:19 |
| adam_g | agree | 16:19 |
| jamespage | hallyn, yes | 16:19 |
| roaksoax | jamespage: sorry i'm supper lagged | 16:19 |
| hallyn | k | 16:19 |
| jamespage | roaksoax, ack | 16:19 |
| jamespage | roaksoax, wanna update now? | 16:19 |
| * jamespage gives roaksoax a few to respond | 16:19 | |
| jamespage | zul: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-openstack-havana | 16:20 |
| jamespage | lots of things actually done there I think | 16:20 |
| jamespage | good point to catchup now that havana2 is landing everywhere | 16:20 |
| zul | ill upate it today | 16:20 |
| jamespage | arosales, quite a few juju related ones with minimal progress - do you want to go through those now? | 16:21 |
| jamespage | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-openstack-charms | 16:21 |
| jamespage | adam_g, roaksoax and I have been working on the python redux of the openstack charms | 16:21 |
| jamespage | looking quite good now - hopefully we should have a full set of initial versions this week | 16:22 |
| adam_g | im hoping to have all of the bash -> python rewrites ready for testing this week | 16:22 |
| jamespage | \o/ | 16:22 |
| jamespage | OK - anyone got any other BP related stuff they wanted to raise/query? | 16:23 |
| jamespage | .... | 16:23 |
| jamespage | ... | 16:23 |
| jamespage | .. | 16:23 |
| yolanda | mine of server banners is stuck, working on other issues | 16:23 |
| jamespage | . | 16:23 |
| jamespage | yolanda, is that just pending sponsorship or are you getting blocked? | 16:24 |
| arosales | jamespage, sorry I was in another window | 16:24 |
| yolanda | jamespage, i stopped working on that for a while, working on syncs and merges, and now in charms | 16:24 |
| jamespage | yolanda, OK | 16:24 |
| jamespage | arosales, juju blueprints? | 16:25 |
| yolanda | i got some of them uploaded, bind9 is pending on review | 16:25 |
| arosales | jamespage, a couple of the owners are at OSCON so I can take an action to review juju related ones this week | 16:25 |
| arosales | #action arosales to review Juju blueprints | 16:25 |
| meetingology | ACTION: arosales to review Juju blueprints | 16:25 |
| jamespage | #action arosales to review juju related blueprints with owners after OSCON | 16:25 |
| meetingology | ACTION: arosales to review juju related blueprints with owners after OSCON | 16:25 |
| jamespage | ooops | 16:25 |
| jamespage | oh well - we will remember twice now! | 16:25 |
| jamespage | lets move on | 16:25 |
| jamespage | #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events | 16:25 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Server Team Events | ||
| jamespage | something called OSCON I think | 16:26 |
| jamespage | anyone going? | 16:26 |
| hallyn | i'm guessing if they are, they are there already | 16:26 |
| jamespage | lol | 16:26 |
| jamespage | yes | 16:26 |
| jamespage | any other events folk want to raise now? | 16:26 |
| arosales | m_3 and jcastro @ OSCON | 16:26 |
| arosales | giveing a Charm School talk as we chat here | 16:26 |
| jamespage | excellent - hope its packed.... | 16:27 |
| jamespage | #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars) | 16:27 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars) | ||
| jamespage | plars, floor is yours | 16:27 |
| plars | hi, a couple of bugs are affecting server testing at the moment | 16:27 |
| plars | both on the virtual host part | 16:27 |
| plars | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1203694 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1203211 | 16:27 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1203211 in linux (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1203694 Modprobe doesn't recognize any parameters on 3.10.0-4" [Critical,Fix committed] | 16:28 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1203211 in linux (Ubuntu) "Modprobe doesn't recognize any parameters on 3.10.0-4" [Critical,Fix committed] | 16:28 |
| smb | should be fixed by -5 in proposed | 16:28 |
| plars | bot seem to be well on their way though :) | 16:28 |
| plars | ack | 16:28 |
| rbasak | AIUI the release team are working on landing -5. | 16:28 |
| jamespage | excellent | 16:28 |
| plars | sounds good | 16:28 |
| plars | that's it from me | 16:28 |
| jamespage | thanks plars | 16:28 |
| jamespage | anyone got anything else qa related while we are here? matsubara maybe? | 16:28 |
| jamespage | .... | 16:29 |
| jamespage | ... | 16:29 |
| jamespage | .. | 16:29 |
| jamespage | . | 16:29 |
| matsubara | not really | 16:29 |
| jamespage | ack | 16:29 |
| jamespage | #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) | 16:29 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) | ||
| smb | There seem also to be some problem with qemu and vmvga crashing the host which apw is working on. | 16:29 |
| smb | The bug number slipped my brain though | 16:30 |
| smb | ah | 16:30 |
| smb | bug 1204005 | 16:30 |
| ubottu | bug 1204005 in linux (Ubuntu) "[saucy] kvm host hangs of guest boot with 3.10.0-5" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1204005 | 16:30 |
| smb | Apart from that I cannot think of anything hot right now (exccept the weather) | 16:31 |
| smb | Are there questions? | 16:31 |
| jamespage | smb, thanks | 16:31 |
| jamespage | sound like a no for questions... | 16:31 |
| jamespage | #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) | 16:31 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) | ||
| rbasak | Nothing new to report. Any questions for me? | 16:32 |
| jamespage | not from me | 16:32 |
| jamespage | anyone else? | 16:32 |
| jamespage | OK | 16:33 |
| jamespage | #topic Open Discussion | 16:33 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Open Discussion | ||
| jamespage | anything anyone wants to raise? | 16:33 |
| arosales | UDS fastly approaching | 16:33 |
| jamespage | discuss or otherwise argue about? | 16:33 |
| arosales | http://uds.ubuntu.com/ | 16:33 |
| zul | yeah i raised this | 16:33 |
| roaksoax | jamespage: basically, I'm currently updating the cluster stack, which means the removal of 'redhat-cluster' from the archives. All cluster will be based on pacemaker+corosync2.0, gfs2 + dlm (a new package that needs to be uploaded) | 16:33 |
| roaksoax | for distributed storage | 16:33 |
| roaksoax | /filesystem | 16:33 |
| jamespage | roaksoax, man - that is some lag - thanks for the update | 16:33 |
| zul | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/quantum/+bug/1203766 | 16:34 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1203766 in quantum (Ubuntu) "Please remove from Ubuntu Archive" [Undecided,New] | 16:34 |
| roaksoax | and all packages that used to depend on redhat-cluster related dependencies need to be update | 16:34 |
| arosales | ah sorry for the dup zul | 16:34 |
| jamespage | good point about UDS _ only a month away | 16:34 |
| jamespage | good point to recheck on progress for saucy so far | 16:34 |
| zul | that should be interesting | 16:34 |
| jamespage | just to be clear - quantum is now called neutron if anyone missed that | 16:35 |
| jamespage | its not another new core project in openstack | 16:35 |
| jamespage | :-) | 16:35 |
| jamespage | anyway | 16:35 |
| jamespage | #topic Announce next meeting date and time | 16:35 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Announce next meeting date and time | ||
| jamespage | Tuesday 30th July - 1600 GMT | 16:36 |
| jamespage | see you then | 16:36 |
| jamespage | #endmeeting | 16:36 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara) | ||
| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Jul 23 16:36:25 2013 UTC. | 16:36 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-07-23-16.02.moin.txt | 16:36 |
| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-07-23-16.02.html | 16:36 |
| jamespage | thanks folks! | 16:36 |
| arosales | jamespage, thanks for chairing | 16:51 |
| jsalisbury | #startmeeting | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | ## | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting. | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | ## | 17:00 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Jul 23 17:00:37 2013 UTC. The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 17:00 |
| meetingology | Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Saucy | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | # Meeting Etiquette | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | # | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | # NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input. | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | # 'o/' indicates you have something to add (please wait until you are recognized) | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting | 17:00 |
| ppisati | o/ | 17:00 |
| henrix | o/ | 17:00 |
| smb | \o | 17:00 |
| kamal | o/ | 17:00 |
| rtg | o/ | 17:01 |
| cking | \o | 17:01 |
| ogasawara | o/ | 17:01 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati) | 17:01 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: ARM Status (ppisati) | ||
| ppisati | nothing new to report | 17:01 |
| ppisati | .. | 17:01 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury) | 17:01 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury) | ||
| jsalisbury | Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link: | 17:01 |
| jsalisbury | [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt | 17:01 |
| jsalisbury | .. | 17:01 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara) | 17:01 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara) | ||
| ogasawara | [LINK] https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-distro-team/+upcomingwork | 17:01 |
| ogasawara | [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-s/canonical-kernel-distro-team.html | 17:01 |
| ogasawara | || apw || foundations-1305-arm64-bringup || 1 work item || | 17:01 |
| ogasawara | || ppisati || foundations-1305-kernel || 1 work item || | 17:01 |
| ogasawara | || smb || servercloud-s-virtstack || 3 work items || | 17:01 |
| ogasawara | .. | 17:01 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Status: Saucy Development Kernel (ogasawara) | 17:02 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Status: Saucy Development Kernel (ogasawara) | ||
| ogasawara | We have recently uploaded a new 3.10.0-5.14 Saucy kernel to the archive. | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | This includes the v3.10.2 upstream stable patch set, as well as a fix | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | for a regression which was causing graphics failures on boot. We have | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | also rebased our unstable branch to begin tracking v3.11-rc2. | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | I also want to again point out that the 12.04.3 point release is | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | approaching on Thurs Aug 22. Any kernel patches needing to land in the | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | 12.04.3 point release need to be applied to our Raring kernel tree on | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | or before Mon July 29 in order to hit the SRU cadence before the point | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | release. Please get any patches submitted to the mailing list for | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | proper review as soon as possible. | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | Important upcoming dates: | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | Thurs July 25 - Alpha 2 (opt in, 2 days) | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | Thurs Aug 22 - 12.04.3 (~4 weeks) | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | .. | 17:02 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (bjf) | 17:02 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Status: CVE's (bjf) | ||
| bjf | The current CVE status can be reviewed at the following link: | 17:02 |
| bjf | * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html | 17:02 |
| bjf | .. | 17:02 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Raring/Quantal/Precise/Lucid (bjf/henrix/sconklin) | 17:03 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Raring/Quantal/Precise/Lucid (bjf/henrix/sconklin) | ||
| bjf | Status for the main kernels, until today (July 23): | 17:03 |
| bjf | * Lucid - Regression testing | 17:03 |
| bjf | * Precise - Regression testing | 17:03 |
| bjf | * Quantal - Regression testing | 17:03 |
| bjf | * Raring - Regression testing | 17:03 |
| bjf | Current opened tracking bugs details: | 17:03 |
| bjf | * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html | 17:03 |
| bjf | For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information: | 17:03 |
| bjf | * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html | 17:03 |
| bjf | .. | 17:03 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/) | 17:03 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/) | ||
| kamal | o/ | 17:03 |
| jsalisbury | kamal, go | 17:03 |
| kamal | folks playing with 3.11-rc2 should be aware that acpi backlight is borked for many systems... a revert of the offending commits is planned in advance of 3.11-rc3. | 17:03 |
| kamal | .. | 17:03 |
| jsalisbury | kamal, thanks for the heads up. | 17:04 |
| jsalisbury | .. | 17:04 |
| jsalisbury | The next two meetings will be canceled due to the kernel team sprint. The next meeting will be August 13th, 2013. | 17:04 |
| jsalisbury | .. | 17:05 |
| jsalisbury | Thanks everyone | 17:05 |
| jsalisbury | #endmeeting | 17:05 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara) | ||
| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Jul 23 17:05:32 2013 UTC. | 17:05 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-07-23-17.00.moin.txt | 17:05 |
| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-07-23-17.00.html | 17:05 |
| kamal | thanks jsalisbury | 17:05 |
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