[00:00] <gordonjcp> valroadie: there's no easy way to do that
[00:00] <invisiblek> hrm...why does ubuntu fail so hard at using my local dns server to resolve local nodes?
[00:00] <gordonjcp> valroadie: the root account is deprecated
[00:00] <valroadie> gordonjcp, ah well, anyplace with steps to guide me? Or...
[00:00] <invisiblek> it should be acquiring dns servers from my dhcp server (also the dns server)
[00:00] <gordonjcp> valroadie: if you *insist*...
[00:00] <usr13> valroadie: Sure it's possible.  sudo -i  gives you super-user mode.
[00:00] <valroadie> :D I do I do!
[00:00] <invisiblek> $ cat /etc/resolv.conf
[00:00] <invisiblek> # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
[00:00] <invisiblek> #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[00:00] <invisiblek> nameserver 127.0.1.1
[00:00] <FloodBot1> invisiblek: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:00] <invisiblek> thats not a flood =P
[00:00] <gordonjcp> valroadie: maybe you can pass something to gnome-terminal on startup to force it to run as root
[00:00] <invisiblek> any more maybe...
[00:01] <invisiblek> anyway, it shouldnt be using 127.0.1.1 for dns =\
[00:01] <gordonjcp> valroadie: why do you want to do that, anyway?
[00:01] <invisiblek> not sure why its getting that in there
[00:01] <poz> I am with valroadie, I want that as well
[00:01] <Aprel> valroadie: I *think* you can configure sudo to not require a pass. Then maybe you can make a shortcut to always call 'sudo -i' at terminal startup
[00:01] <xmetal> (have mint installed now) ... looking up info on mint-vs-ubuntu-vs-debian atm
[00:01] <histo> invisiblek: caching
[00:01] <valroadie> gordonjcp, because I do not want to be bothered by the sudo pass prompt ;) Aprel Thank you! I will look in the config files for my term client.
[00:01] <gordonjcp> valroadie: hm
[00:02]  * w30 thinks running any GUI as root is dangerous even if it's pretty stable, it's not stable enough.
[00:02] <gordonjcp> valroadie: you shouldn't do that
[00:02] <histo> invisiblek: Are you using network-manager for your connection?
[00:02] <gordonjcp> valroadie: you don't have enough experience to have it all root all the time
[00:02] <usr13> invisiblek: change it to a valid nameserver of your choice.  Use the network-manager if you like, or set the configuration on your gateway router so that it gives proper IP info.
[00:02] <invisiblek> histo: yea, i think so, whatever is default on desktop
[00:02] <valroadie> gordonjcp, I know ;) But it is my linux eh? I WANT to :)
[00:02] <invisiblek> usr13: you dont edit resolv.conf, it doesnt survive a reboot
[00:02] <invisiblek> and it should be pulling dns from my dhcp server, everything else does
[00:02] <poz> yeah, i agree. why is so hard to see why valroadie would want that? its very clean, so he can muck about with out any hassle. why bother with a password?
[00:02] <invisiblek> all my other nodes properly query it
[00:02] <usr13> invisiblek: You are correct.
[00:02] <gordonjcp> valroadie: maybe add sudo -i to your rcfile?
[00:03] <histo> invisiblek: look at your settings in network-manager you should see your dhcp pulled hte appropriate dns from your router
[00:03] <invisiblek> histo: yes, it appears to have
[00:03] <valroadie> gordonjcp, will try that ;)
[00:03] <gordonjcp> valroadie: anyway, having a root login is obsolete
[00:03] <w30> even sudo <some GUI app> is more dangerous than gksu <some GUI app>
[00:03] <gordonjcp> valroadie: you should only ever use sudo
[00:03] <invisiblek> but when i do nslookups, its using 127.0.1.1
[00:03] <invisiblek> =\
[00:03] <gordonjcp> valroadie: this has been the case for over 20 years
[00:03] <histo> invisiblek: it's using a local cache to speed up queries
[00:04] <invisiblek> well its local cache is failing and its not querying the nameserver lol
[00:04] <poz> what does sudo -i do?
[00:04] <gordonjcp> poz: starts a shell as root
[00:04] <Aprel> gordonjcp: You mean obsolete on ubuntu? Debian still uses a root account.
[00:04] <usr13> invisiblek: But I've given you the available options.  You more-than likely have network-manager configured imporperly or your router, one or the other.
[00:04] <gordonjcp> Aprel: obsolete on *all* Unix-like OSes
[00:04] <valroadie> gordonjcp, I am a risk taker! heh and imaptient. Really a big reason is to see if I CAN do it! Noone wanted to help me to do it because it is ill advised and I appreciate it but, it is my comp and I want to do what I want! *Yells and cries* haha
[00:04] <gordonjcp> Aprel: root was dead before the very first Linux was released
[00:05] <poz> is there a way such that I can open up a terminal and always be in sudo -i mode?
[00:05] <histo> invisiblek: http://askubuntu.com/questions/2219/how-do-i-clear-the-dns-cache#2234
[00:05] <Aprel> gordonjcp: Then why do so many still use it?
[00:05] <w30> valroadie, make sure you have a disk image available to dd  back  to sda or whatever, heh heh
[00:05] <gordonjcp> poz: that's what valroadie is trying to do
[00:05] <gordonjcp> Aprel: stupidity
[00:05] <histo> poz: sudo gnome-terminal
[00:05] <poz> seems like i would have to type it for every terminal
[00:05] <histo> poz: why would you want to though?
[00:05] <invisiblek> histo: it seems to work *sometimes* and not others
[00:05] <invisiblek> not sure a flush is going to fix it
[00:05] <usr13> invisiblek: You do not have to use network-manager if you don't want to, you can set to static and edit /etc/resolv.conf if you want.
[00:05] <gordonjcp> poz: doing that makes no sense
[00:05] <histo> poz: although gksu gnome-terminal would probably be more proper
[00:06] <w30> keep your password in the clipboard
[00:06] <poz> so i never have to type sudo before everything i type and that i dont have to bother with a password
[00:06] <raymond_> Prufrock, :( there's more to that message above, so the log doesn't show it?
[00:06] <w30> cut and paste
[00:06] <gordonjcp> poz: the root account is severely limited
[00:06] <Aprel> gordonjcp: ha! Not surprising
[00:06] <DuncanNZ> poz: bad idea.
[00:06] <gordonjcp> poz: most graphical apps won't work, for example
[00:06] <histo> poz: why not configure sudo properly for the commands you want then.
[00:06] <Prufrock> raymond_, mmmmm let me see..
[00:06] <DuncanNZ> just use sudo before commands that need it, only five chars
[00:06] <DuncanNZ> most commands don't need it
[00:06] <xmetal>  hmm also pondering replacing slackwaer 12.2 ... not sure if i want to go with the new slack ... though i do like to  "get my hands dirty" with 12.2 so i may keep it
[00:06] <histo> !sudo | poz
[00:06] <xmetal> (i have a few pc's with different distros here
[00:07] <histo> xmetal: what does any of that have to do with ubuntu?
[00:07] <Xabster> hi, has canonical said exactly which CPU will be in Edge?
[00:07] <poz> but every time i am copying code from some site it never works
[00:07] <poz> then i type sudo before it and bam, it works
[00:07] <gordonjcp> poz: do you know why it doesn't work?
[00:07] <gordonjcp> poz: never *ever* do that
[00:07] <DuncanNZ> poz: ^^ +1
[00:07] <poz> really? i do it all the time...
[00:07] <poz> why not?
[00:07] <gordonjcp> poz: really
[00:08] <w30> poz another way to cyber bendover and let the electrons have their way with you ha ha
[00:08] <Aprel> Haha, that is a joke, yes, poz?
[00:08] <gordonjcp> poz: do you understand what you're typing in?
[00:08] <poz> some times... sometimes it is gibberish
[00:08] <gordonjcp> poz: so you're typing in commands that you don't understand, and running them as root?
[00:08] <poz> is it really that bad? I do not have anything personal on this computer... just a fresh install... somthing I play with to learn what i am doing
[00:08] <poz> yes
[00:09] <gordonjcp> poz: paste your credit card number, expiry date, CVV number, and home address and telephone number and I'll explain why that's a bad idea
[00:09] <valroadie> poz don't feel bad, every has done it or still does. It is a quick way besides typing it all. These tight asses don't know the meaning of OPEN SOURCE. Pssh, Im outta here.
[00:09] <Prufrock> raymond_, oh, yeah, I guess I found it. Here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5902356/
[00:10] <poz> I have no info like that on this computer
[00:10] <gordonjcp> poz: you understand why typing random stuff in and running it as root is dangerous, right?
[00:11] <w30> all these people running sudo for a gui app wonder why their .Xdefaults file becomes owned by root and their user name won't log in.
[00:11] <poz> I dont understand why... i have to go eat right now because my gf is bothering me too. but I will be back to discuss
[00:11] <w30> it won't happen with gksu
[00:12] <Jetfire> anyone familiar with installing nvidia drivers on ubuntu 12.04?
[00:12] <Aprel> poz: The point is root/sudo is your line of defense against attackers. By disregarding the protections sudo brings you, you open yourself up to vulnerabilities.
[00:12] <Prufrock> raymond_, And there also seems to be a similar, marked incomplete, error report on launchpad about this same issue.
[00:12] <usr13> poz: The attitude you just witnessed from valroadie is unfortunate.  What happens is that an unexperienced user with that type of attitude starts doing lots of stuff as super user or root and wrecks his system and wonders why linux is so messed up.  Well, it is not Linux that is messed up, it is the way people try to miss-use it.
[00:13] <w30> yeah and the attacker is you when some command hangs or you misstype rm something lib_ouno
[00:13] <arthurb> Hello all, I've been in pulseaudio hell for a while... has anyone any experience in troubleshooting this?
[00:14] <histo> !anyone | arthurb
[00:14] <Rarrikins> Does IO contain anything for storing state?
[00:15] <Rarrikins> Bleh, wrong channel
[00:15] <Aprel> Jetfire: the best way is to install with the "Additional Hardware" panel in system settings.
[00:15] <deltarevan> jesus this poz dude
[00:15] <deltarevan> at least he made me laugh
[00:16] <Jetfire> the only additional hardware which appear there is the wireless driver.
[00:16]  * w30 notices the greybeards didn't bother to answer him
[00:16] <w30> even\
[00:16] <Aprel> rm -r /*  -- damn it, not working, lemme put sudo in front of it.
[00:17]  * w30 cust and pastes Aprel
[00:17] <w30> cuts
[00:17] <Aprel> Jetfire: what nVidia card do you have?
[00:18] <w30> Aprel, heheh
[00:18] <Aprel> w30: ;)
[00:19] <elisa87> do you know why I can't install or uninstall any package anymore? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5902378/ my JAVA_HOME is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/jre and my Java version is "1.6.0_27"
[00:19] <SDr> are there any ways for processes eg kworker/1:0 and migration/7 to not show up on ps / top?
[00:20] <raymond_> Prufrock, hmm.. I'm stumped. The messeage doesn't make it clear as to what module is causing this even.. tried googling the error but didn't get any real solution.
[00:20] <Jetfire> Aprel Nvidia Geforce GT 630M
[00:20] <raymond_> Prufrock, Are you using any proprietary video drivers, or any kernel modules you build & installed?
[00:22] <Prufrock> raymond_, I'm not sure about the video drivers, but I've never been able to write an actually useful piece of code in my life to be able to build or install a kernel module.. :\
[00:22] <skulltip> why is 12.04 stuck with an older kernel while 13+ has the newer stuff?
[00:23] <histo> skulltip: stability
[00:23] <SilverSlimer> how do newer kernels affect stability.. seriously?
[00:24] <SilverSlimer> i could imagine having a different version of certain libraries to go with a piece of software but a kernel?
[00:24] <Aprel> Jetfire: https://www.google.com/search?q=Nvidia+Geforce+GT+630M+ubuntu+driver might have the solution for you. Unfortunately the ubuntu forums top link is down :(
[00:24] <SilverSlimer> different version of libraries = crash, not a kernel.
[00:24] <fellayaboy> how do i uninstall programs that ive installed via a terminal from tar file..such as ./program make install
[00:24] <Prufrock> raymond_, could installing and tinkering with Wine at little bit have anything to do with this?
[00:25] <Prufrock> a*
[00:25] <Jetfire> Aprel: Yes they are down and i can't install damn driver.
[00:25] <Jetfire> For what i've learned bumblebee is universial driver for optimus nvidia graphics.
[00:25] <akurilin> Is there any way of preventing alt-ctrl-del in a virtual tty when a user isn't logged in?
[00:25] <Aprel> skulltip: even though 12.04 has "long term support", they only bring the latest packages with the latest distros.
[00:26] <histo> !releases | skulltip
[00:26] <raymond_> Prufrock, It shouldn't.. unless you changed some kernel parameters (modifed /etc/defaults/grub).. and you'd know it if you did.  ok.. so that eliminates that issue.  And if you don't have any other devices plugged into your laptop (like a USB video card or something).. then.. as long as you're prepared for having an unbootable system, you can try a mainline kernel out.
[00:26] <Aprel> Jetfire: you may find luck using nVidia proprietary driver, if they have one for linux, but I haven't had much luck with proprietary driver son ubutnu
[00:27] <Prufrock> raymond_, a mainline kernel? what's that?
[00:27] <skulltip> ok ty
[00:27] <genii> !mainline
[00:27] <raymond_> Prufrock, A vanilla kernel, you can even try out a newer version.  Just to see if it fixes the problem.  You should back up your important files first though.
[00:28] <raymond_> genii, thx.. I still have to get used to that !<insert thing here> awesomeness  ;)
[00:29]  * genii hugs ubottu
[00:31] <dutchie> hey, i'm having some issues with command-not-found. See http://pastebin.com/H5vuuTkK. I've tried dpkg-reconfiguring and apt-get install --reinstalling both command-not-found and -data, but no luck. Should I just remove those and get it to regenerate them somehow? Going afk now, but will leave this logged on and check for highlights
[00:32] <raymond_> Prufrock, once you've backed up your important stuff.  Try kernel 3.9  http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.9-raring/  <- you'll see debs on here.  Get the linux-image-... deb for your architecture (if you don't know, just type arch, it'll probably be either i386 or x86_64).  If it's x86_64, grab the deb that ends in amd64.
[00:34] <raymond_> Prufrock, once you download it, if you double click it, it should pop up in the software center and let you install.  Hopefully those panics will stop ^_^
[00:34] <raymond_> Prufrock, oh.. and of course you'll have to reboot after installing it.
[00:34] <linelevel> Hi guys. My install of postgresql became messed up, so I tried to `purge` and re-`install` it, but the installation gives me an error: "Error: could not create default cluster. Please create it manually with  pg_createcluster 9.1 main --start"  -- But that command fails with "Error: move_conffile: required configuration file /var/lib/postgresql/9.1/main/postgresql.conf does not exist"
[00:34] <linelevel> Can anyone please help?
[00:35] <arthurb_> so pavucontrol can't connect to pulseaudio. Daemon is definitely running though. Any thoughts to troubleshoot?
[00:37] <raymond_> Prufrock, one more thing.. if you end up with an unbootable system.. you should see an entry in your boot menu that says Previous Versions, or Recovery Options (can't remember which).  If you hit that menu, you'll see your older kernels and you can boot one of those. :)
[00:37] <DWSR> Can someone help me with why samba4 is failing to configure on Precise amd64 server?
[00:38] <Prufrock> raymond_, I'll try it out in few. Thank you very much for your help. :)
[00:39] <raymond_> Prufrock, np.   Let me know if it works ^_^
[00:42] <Aprel> Is there anyway to take a "snapshot" of an Ubuntu install, and write it to a dvd or flashdrive?
[00:42] <Aprel> And boot from that?
[00:42] <poz> ubuntu wont update for some reason
[00:42] <poz> it says check my internet connectino
[00:43] <poz> but i am clearly connect, or else how could I be here?
[00:43] <poz> connected*
[00:43] <SilverSlimer> aprel: you'll need an image program for that and yes you can do that
[00:44] <poz> any ideas?
[00:44] <Prufrock> raymond_, Sure! ;)
[00:44] <OerHeks> poz what ubuntu version do you use?
[00:44] <SilverSlimer> aprel: systemimager seems to be the meta-package you want
[00:44] <poz> 13.04
[00:45] <OerHeks> poz maybe worth trying a different mirror, sometimes helps.
[00:45] <poz> it says "failed to download repository information"
[00:45] <poz> I have tryed three so far
[00:45] <w30> poz, make sure you don't have a source like a cd rom or nfs drive checked in your repo list
[00:46] <poz> okay
[00:46] <OerHeks> poz oh, that is a different error than check your connection. please paste the complete erro you get @ paste.ubuntu.com
[00:46] <poz> well it says both
[00:46] <Aprel> SilverSlimer: thanks, checking that out now.
[00:47] <poz> no the cd source thing is unchecked
[00:48] <WorstCaseOntario> Hey there I am trying to fix SAMBA after my system crashed due to accidentally unplugging the harddrive. SAMBA is no longer working. when I enter the smbtree command it now returns nothing
[00:48] <poz> what should i use to take a screen shot?
[00:48] <w30> poz, try a different download site. I like to let the chooser grab the best one test result.
[00:49] <poz> w30, tried that
[00:49] <poz> well this is the exact error: "Failed to download repository information" ... "Check your internet connection" ... then three options from the software updated: settings... try again... OK...
[00:51] <Jetfire> Aprel: can i ask you one more thing?
[00:51] <Aprel> Jetfire: sure. hope I have an answer
[00:52] <poz> any other ideas?
[00:52] <Jetfire> Aprel: using dell inspiron 5720 ,i have intel graphics and nvidia graphics.i must disable intel so nvidia can be the primary.
[00:52] <w30> poz, donno any more
[00:53] <OerHeks> poz open terminal:" sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  "and paste the complete error you get @ paste.ubuntu.com
[00:54] <Aprel> Jetfire: check your BIOS. In my BIOS, for ex., there is a "Disable Intel graphics if not primary" option. Otherwise, yes, you will probably have to disable one graphics if you want to use the other.
[00:55] <Jetfire> Good ,now:I've downloaded the driver i want ,its a *.run file ,how to install it?
[00:55] <WITRChris> chmod +x *.run
[00:55] <poz> OerHeks http://paste.ubuntu.com/5902466/
[00:55] <WITRChris> sudo ./whatever.run
[00:55] <Jetfire> but i must "cd" it?
[00:56] <Jetfire> i've downloaded it into desktop, how to now?
[00:56] <Jetfire> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-310.44.run
[00:56] <Jetfire> saved on desktop, how to run it?
[00:57] <SilverSlimer> go into a terminal, type sudo then the folder where the file is saved and the file name
[00:57] <Jetfire> so ,sudo Desktop NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-310.44.run ?
[00:57] <SilverSlimer> like sudo /home/joe/nvidia.run
[00:57] <SilverSlimer> however, i don't think that's how you install the nvidia driver in ubuntu
[00:57] <Aprel> Jetfire: It's a painful process. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[00:57] <SilverSlimer> i believe that there is a simpler way
[00:58] <WITRChris> why can't you just do apt-get install nvidia-current?
[00:58] <WITRChris> or is that no longer a thing?
[00:58] <Jetfire> well tried mate ,doesnt work.
[00:58] <OerHeks> poz, that jonoomph/openshot-edge/ has no raring packages. https://launchpad.net/~jonoomph/+archive/openshot-edge
[00:58] <SilverSlimer> witrchris: it seems to change with each release
[00:58] <OerHeks> else is loking ine
[00:58] <Jetfire> it installing some X driver which doesnt support my video card.
[00:58] <SilverSlimer> technically, using the default nouveau driver gives you the least problems
[00:58] <SilverSlimer> but it's also not vertically synched and the performance is awful
[00:58] <Jetfire> well lets just say i cant play games without thise drivers.
[00:58] <SilverSlimer> yeah, i figured
[00:58] <SilverSlimer> which games
[00:58] <Jetfire> i installed bumblebee and the problems start.
[00:59] <Jetfire> Steam/Dota2
[00:59] <Jetfire> without bumblebee i even wasnt able to run Steam.
[00:59] <poz> OerHeks, what are you suggesting?
[00:59] <Morph4me> poz: Failed to fetch PPAs 404 errors remove (uncheck) those in the software sources and your good to go
[00:59] <OerHeks> poz remove that ppa.
[00:59] <poz> oh i see
[00:59] <cloudbuntu> wondering if someone could help me here
[00:59] <reisio> cloudbuntu: yup
[01:00] <Jetfire> SilverSlime: what you suggest?
[01:00] <cloudbuntu> someone advised that i do '/exec -o find' to fix a weird terminal display issue i was having in irssi
[01:00] <reisio> cloudbuntu: someone wasn't helping you
[01:00] <cloudbuntu> e_O
[01:01] <poz> it is working now. thanks guys
[01:01] <cloudbuntu> it just printed a bunch of stuff to the channel
[01:01] <cloudbuntu> did i get trolled x.x
[01:02] <sp00ky> I'm getting a lot of invalid misc. errors with my wireless using 12.04.  does anyone know how I can fix this?
[01:02] <Jetfire> You do not appear to have an NVIDIA GPU supported by the 310.44
[01:02] <Jetfire>            NVIDIA Linux graphics driver installed in this system.  For further
[01:02] <Jetfire>            details, please see the appendix SUPPORTED NVIDIA GRAPHICS CHIPS in
[01:02] <Jetfire>            the README available on the Linux driver download page at
[01:02] <Jetfire>            www.nvidia.com.
[01:02] <FloodBot1> Jetfire: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:04] <SilverSlimer> jetfire: what's your gpu?
[01:05] <Jetfire> SilverSlimer: not sure ,now trying to check it.
[01:05] <Jetfire> is there a way?
[01:05] <Jetfire> im using NVIDIA GEFORCE GT 630M video card.
[01:06] <SilverSlimer> ok, a laptop video card
[01:06] <Jetfire> yes.
[01:06] <Jetfire> and stupid nvidia site wants me to install java so it can detect auto my gpu
[01:06] <SilverSlimer> the problem some laptop owners have (in windows anyway) is that using the standard nvidia installer for the laptop gpu will result in the installer saying that no supported gpu was found
[01:06] <SilverSlimer> however, that should not be the case on linux at all
[01:07] <Jetfire> so ,whats the problem?
[01:07] <lenz> Hey guys! I'm currently tidying my music folder and for that purpose I need to delete all empty directories.
[01:07] <Jetfire> can i install drivers or..?
[01:07] <SilverSlimer> jetfire: just the way you're installing. i haven't used ubuntu in a while but i'll find you the installation instructions. give me a sec
[01:07] <lenz> I also need to delte all directories containing only hidden files. Is that possible from CLI?
[01:07] <jrib> lenz: sure, but why?
[01:07] <SilverSlimer> jetfire: http://www.noobslab.com/2012/10/install-latest-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu.html
[01:07] <lenz> because it's too many manually
[01:08] <SilverSlimer> do it that way
[01:08] <jrib> lenz: I mean why do you want to delete them?
[01:08] <SilverSlimer> however i can'T help but notice the omission of the 630m in the list of supported cards
[01:08] <Aprel> lenz: rmdir * -- rmdir only removes empty directories. See rmdir man page for proof
[01:09] <Jetfire> last time i tried this it fucked up my resolution to 680* and no larger one
[01:09] <Jetfire> so i needed to reinstall.
[01:09] <lenz> thanks Aprel
[01:09] <Jetfire> it syas that nvidia is already to the newest version
[01:09] <Jetfire> LOL
[01:09] <lenz> jrih I'm restructuring from ALBUM / (files) to ARTIST/ ALBUM / files
[01:10] <SilverSlimer> jetfire: yeah, it's probably due to some libraries being on the computer
[01:10] <Jetfire> so what to do?
[01:10] <resting> i have php5-pgsql installed, is there anyway to get it to work with php53?
[01:10] <sp00ky> anyone have any ideas regarding my wireless issue?
[01:10] <SilverSlimer> jetfire: did you try the hard way in these instructions? http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Latest-Nvidia-Drivers-in-Ubuntu-13-04-350497.shtml
[01:11] <linelevel> [bump] Hi guys. My install of postgresql became messed up, so I tried to `purge` and re-`install` it, but the installation gives me an error: "Error: could not create default cluster. Please create it manually with  pg_createcluster 9.1 main --start"  -- But that command fails with "Error: move_conffile: required configuration file /var/lib/postgresql/9.1/main/postgresql.conf does not exist"
[01:11] <linelevel> Can anyone please help?
[01:13] <Alegreya> i want an ubuntu pocket pc
[01:13] <Aprel> Is there anyway to copy an ubuntu-bootable partition to RAM before boot from a flashdrive, and then boot from the image in ram?
[01:13] <lenz> Alegreya, we all do
[01:14] <SilverSlimer> aprel: wow, what you needed was a lot more complicated than i thought
[01:14] <reisio> Aprel: that's basically what any liveusb install image does
[01:15] <Jetfire> SilverSlimer:i have trouble with scanning the GPU.
[01:15] <Jetfire> i did tar zxvf the java
[01:15] <SilverSlimer> reisio: i was thinking the same thing but the liveusb image is accessed from time to time on the usb key. i think he wants all access to be purely in ram
[01:15] <Jetfire> it created folder but doesnt work yet
[01:15] <zykotick9> reisio: ahh, most livecd don't run from ram, just sayin'
[01:15] <reisio> sure they do
[01:15] <SilverSlimer> jetfire: you're not using a vaio per chance are you?
[01:16] <Jetfire> dont know whats that.
[01:16] <Aprel> SilverSlimer: no! Don't worry! I took note of your answer too. It was good. Basically I've got an idea for a bootable ubuntu image in my head and just researching and throwing out ideas to figure out how I best want to accomplish it :)
[01:16] <andres__> ALGUIEN Q HABLE ESPAÑOL!
[01:16] <SilverSlimer> jetfire: a sony vaio .. what kind of laptop is it?
[01:16] <Jetfire> i just want to run stupid java so i can scan my gpu and dw the drivers.
[01:16] <Jetfire> DELL Inspiron 5720.
[01:16] <Aprel> andres__: mejor preguntar en #ubuntu-es
[01:17] <Alegreya> https://www.infoworld.com/d/security/true-tales-of-mostly-white-hat-hacking-222831
[01:17] <Aprel> reisio: I want to plug in the usb, move it all to ram, and remove the usb. Is that supported by default on usb installs?
[01:18] <OerHeks> Alegreya, must we read that?
[01:18] <Alegreya> no
[01:18] <OerHeks> Alegreya, then don't spam please.
[01:18] <reisio> Aprel: nope
[01:18] <Alegreya> wrong window
[01:18] <SilverSlimer> jetfire: i'd suggest looking up the model of the pc on duckduckgo (or google) with nvidia and ubuntu in the search
[01:18] <SilverSlimer> like 'dell inspiron nvidia ubuntu' to see if other people had such issues
[01:19] <Aprel> reisio: k. I've had good luck using the livecd w the toram boot option. Is there something like that with usb installs?
[01:19] <Jetfire> SilverSlimer: check this out mate ,http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201202-10404/
[01:19] <Jetfire> do you think it will include the drivers into System Settings >Additional Drivers
[01:19] <reisio> Aprel: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22liveusb%22%20%22toram%22 looks promising
[01:20] <Aprel> reisio: basically, I want to have a read-write ubuntu install, customize it how I want, then make it read-only, even maybe burn to dvd if possible
[01:20] <Aprel> reisio: k, I'll check that link.
[01:20] <SilverSlimer> jetfire: certified for ubuntu doesn't mean nvidia will work, it means that video will work
[01:20] <SilverSlimer> through nouveau
[01:21] <Jetfire> i see.
[01:21] <Jetfire> damn this driver installs are very painfull game.
[01:21] <Jetfire> i will leave it for another day.
[01:21] <Jetfire> tell me about the java?
[01:21] <Jetfire> why it doesnt work after i did tar zxvf?
[01:21] <naryfa> hello
[01:21] <reisio> hi naryfa
[01:23] <SilverSlimer> jetfire: define 'doesn't work'
[01:23] <draconus2> or just paste the error...
[01:25] <Xabster> any info on which CPU will be in the Ubuntu Edge phone?
[01:26] <fatliped> Zimmerman saved the lives of people today. You know the WHITE mexican. According to the media he was white to kickstart riots.
[01:26] <Aprel> is that person around who wanted to use sudo without a password? Just realized the ubuntu livecd uses sudo without a password, so it's possible. Check how the livecd is configured.
[01:27] <naryfa> Aprel: using sudo without password is a very easy trick
[01:27] <OerHeks> Aprel, live cd is a single user mode system.
[01:27] <SilverSlimer> fatliped: that's the way of the american government: when your economy is shit and you're making it even worse, just distract the plebeians with something pointless like trayvon vs zimmerman
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> !ops | fatliped
[01:27] <SilverSlimer> 50% of black males are jobless ... let's all ignore that and talk about evil whitey
[01:27] <Halyard> !ot|fatliped
[01:28] <Flannel> fatliped, SilverSlimer: please take it elsewhere.
[01:28] <Aprel> naryfa, OerHeks: someone was asking for that earlier. We couldn't come up with how to, but I think they have left now....
[01:28] <naryfa> Aprel: if you still need it I can share it, let me know
[01:29] <Caelthunderwing> got bit of a question. can you use DD to restore an image back to an HDD as in a raw write back to the HDD?
[01:29] <Aprel> naryfa: wel sure! For curiosity's sake. Plus maybe the origial asker will check the logs.
[01:29] <naryfa> Caelthunderwing: you should, what's the image?
[01:30] <genii> Caelthunderwing: Of course.
[01:30] <Caelthunderwing> naryfa, this: http://theisozone.com/downloads/playstation/tools/ps2-hacked-hdd-psbbn032-uleoplesrgsmbb3-or-free-hdboot/ normally you use a windows PC and use a program called "Rawcopy"
[01:31] <Caelthunderwing> i have atm my old PS (this is ancient Linux though like kernel 2.2 old) and it still has the DD utility
[01:31] <Caelthunderwing> just none of my PC's are old enough to still have an IDE interface
[01:32] <hydester> anybody using a seagate hybrid SSD/HDD with ubuntu?  thumbs up or down?  thanks
[01:33] <naryfa> Caelthunderwing: okay, but does it create a file with an extension? What is the image?
[01:33] <OerHeks> !anybody | hydester
[01:33] <Caelthunderwing> the image is pre-made and the extension is imgc
[01:34] <naryfa> Caelthunderwing: I doubt it then, try picking it with DD, but I don't think it will know what to do with it
[01:34] <Caelthunderwing> is there any then Imaging utilties that'll do a blind Raw write?
[01:35] <naryfa> it isn't raw per se, it is "raw" to that program which created it, without converting the file, it's hard to tell
[01:35] <genii> Caelthunderwing: If the image was made without compression dd can do it. If compression was used then it won't work.
[01:36] <naryfa> Aprel: sudo visudo, and then change all the lines that have ALL=(ALL) ALL to ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[01:37] <Aprel> naryfa: ah, i see
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> naryfa, Advising no password is against channel policy
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> and a stupid thing to do
[01:37] <OerHeks> naryfa, good job wrecking a system beyond repair if something is going wrong.
[01:38] <naryfa> anything else?
[01:38] <Caelthunderwing> this is going to take awhile @_@ the PS2 only has32MB ram and only 22MB avilable to the OS after boot .
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> Aprel, The live cd is read not write thats why it has no password your install is read and write, that is a bad idea.
[01:39] <Aprel> everyone, please be calm. This goes back to a question asked several hours ago (asked by someone who isn't logged in anymore), and no one knew how to answer it. At the time, everyone advised against it, but the asker still wanted an answer.
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> simple answer
[01:40] <OerHeks> Aprel, please follow the channelrules, thanks.
[01:41] <Aprel> The "toram" boot option--is that available on all ubuntu installs, or just the livecd?
[01:43] <MatHall> anyone running MIR
[01:44] <reisio> I'm running ISS
[01:44] <raymond> MatHall, I have before.  Back to X awaiting proper dual head support.
[01:44] <OerHeks> MatHall, next ubuntu 13.10 uses xMir, as a transit to 14.04 with Mir
[01:45] <naryfa> wilee-nilee: have you ever tried running the whole system at a root level?
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> MatHall, I have ubuntu running in a red potatoe
[01:45] <dcope> hey all, what is the proper channel for ubuntu edge?
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> dcope, #ubuntu-touch
[01:45] <MatHall> I'm trying MIR, in XMIR mode now.  unity is slow but works
[01:46] <dcope> wilee-nilee: thank you
[01:46] <wilee-nilee> no probs
[01:46] <Caelthunderwing> seems to be working now genii  looks like it could take a bit the image is lil over 233MB
[01:47] <DWSR> Does adding keys to the ssh-agent daemon make them permanent? I can't remember.
[01:48] <causasui> what app do I want to use to monitor hard drive temperature in ubuntu 13? I have psensor but it only seems to track CPU and mobo temp
[01:48] <reisio> causasui: what'd be the point
[01:48] <DWSR> causasui: You shouldn't be worrying about HDD temperature.
[01:48] <causasui> DWSR: they are there until the ssh-agent is closed, ie on reboot
[01:48] <naryfa> causasui: what about lm_sensors
[01:48] <causasui> I am worrying about it because SMART data says the HDD has overheated before and the PC shuts down with overheating and I want to rule everything I can out.
[01:49] <causasui> it's a laptop btw
[01:49] <evlapix> I'm having a bit of an issue with permissions.. A user doesn't have permission over a file/folder owned by themselves. How can that be?
[01:49] <reisio> monitoring the temperature won't rule it out
[01:49] <reisio> replacing the hard disk will
[01:49] <causasui> so again: is there a way to check HDD temperature live or is smart the only way?
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> causasui, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto and I use a conky with it.
[01:51] <naryfa> causasui: I would tell you but I'm affraid I will break some channel rules haha
[01:51]  * wilee-nilee love to ignore morons
[01:51] <naryfa> oh boy, later people
[01:52] <reisio> later
[01:52] <DragonDon> whoa, how do I fix window  'stuttering'?  http://i.imgur.com/DjxO9a7.jpg
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> loces..plural
[01:52] <reisio> DragonDon: faster hardware
[01:52] <reisio> more ramalammadingdong
[01:52] <raymond> causasui, if your laptop is overheating, and shutting down due to overheating; the hard drive is not the most likely cause.  If you want to watch hdd temp though, install hddtemp.
[01:53] <DragonDon> reisio, this is hardly a slow machine....and 5mins later it's still there?  not a hardware issue
[01:53] <naryfa> Hey wilee, I'd rather be considered a moron than a chat gestapo officer. Haha. Ciao.
[01:53] <reisio> DragonDon: why ask if you have all the answers :p
[01:53] <DragonDon> reisio, there were no answers there.  Just pointing out that your answer did not make sense.
[01:53] <raymond> causasui, you can get it to update by the second if you open up a console and type:   while true; do sudo hddtemp /dev/sda; sleep 1; done Just replace /dev/sda with whatever your primary drive is.
[01:54] <Prufrock> raymond, hi :)
[01:54] <reisio> could say the same thing to that :p
[01:54] <raymond> Prufrock, hello. :)  Did it work?
[01:55] <Prufrock> raymond, well, I did as you said, tried kernel version 3.9, but there was a major problem: My internet card didn't work, so I wasn't able to connect to the internet.
[01:56] <drycoo> what's a good mp3 tag editor for ubuntu?
[01:57] <reisio> drycoo: exfalso from quodlibet
[01:57] <reisio> drycoo: or id3v2 for batch stuff
[01:57] <raymond> causasui, Though, if your issue is overheating causing shutdowns, it's most likely your CPU or GPU.  What kind of video card do you have?
[01:58] <drycoo> thanks reisio, the one who always helps quickly ^_*
[01:58] <reisio> the ^ makes him look smiley
[01:59] <raymond> Prufrock, hmm.. that's not good.. I wonder why it didn't work.. :|  What kind of wifi card do you have?
[02:00] <drycoo> pardon me, reisio , a non-native-English here! Didn't undertand what did you mean?
[02:00] <samuel> hello guys
[02:00] <samuel> so who here is getting the ubuntu edge?
[02:00] <reisio> drycoo: 's'okay :)
[02:00] <Ari-Yang> !offtopic > samuel
[02:00] <drycoo> ^__^ reisio
[02:00] <reisio> :D
[02:01] <drycoo> !offtopic > drycoo
[02:01] <causasui> raymond: thanks, I have some experience with this sort of thing though, I don't believe it's the CPU. unfortunately the hdd doesn't have a temperature sensor
[02:02] <Aprel> evlapix: sometimes with certain umask settings, it's possible for a user to create a file and be the ower but have no permissions on it.
[02:02] <drycoo> !flood > drycoo
[02:02] <Aprel> evlapix: if it's a oneshot issue, you can just chmod the file to get back perms.
[02:02] <Prufrock> raymond, I can't seem to find the "System info" thing (I don't remember the exact name but it's where you get all the information about your machine's specifications).
[02:02] <causasui> also, am I suposed to be seeing a bunch of ads in ubuntu?
[02:02] <causasui> +p
[02:02] <drycoo> !rules > drycoo
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> causasui, Can all be turned off.
[02:03] <raymond> Prufrock, Paste to pastebin the output of lspci
[02:03] <drycoo> !ubottu > drycoo
[02:04] <evlapix> Aprel: Should this have fixed it then? http://pastebin.com/AEBmHC5z
[02:04] <sp00ky> I'm getting a lot of invalid misc. errors with my wireless using 12.04.  does anyone know how I can fix this?
[02:04] <Xabster> donate me 600$ so i can preorder Edge :(
[02:04] <elisa87> how can I fix this error? pam_mount(spawn.c:128): error setting uid to 0
[02:04] <Prufrock> raymond, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5902610/
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> sp00ky, How about the errors and the card for the channel.
[02:06] <evlapix> Aprel: Better paste: http://pastebin.com/3eLn72hp
[02:06] <DWSR> If I used gddrescue to create an image of an entire disk, how can I get the files out from that image.
[02:06] <reisio> DWSR: mount it
[02:07] <reisio> DWSR: http://www.andremiller.net/content/mounting-hard-disk-image-including-partitions-using-linux
[02:07] <reisio> next time use rsync, tar, or cp -a
[02:08] <sp00ky> wilee-nilee, http://pastebin.com/mghZh2qq
[02:08] <raymond> Prufrock, yeah.. :( your wireless driver doesn't work with 3.9
[02:08] <Aprel> evlapix: does user logstash own the dir logstash?
[02:08] <histo> DWSR: you need to mount the partitions inside of the image so first you have to determine the offset to them.
[02:09] <Prufrock> raymond, temporarily of course, right?
[02:10] <evlapix> Aprel: Yes. drw-r--r--+  2 logstash      logstash          4096 Jul 23 01:57 logstash
[02:11] <Aprel> evlapix: you need to use chmod 755 on dir logstash because the user needs exec perms on a dir to get inside of it.
[02:12] <agugu> hello there
[02:12] <agugu> anyone uses system76 laptop here?
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> sp00ky, I can't help you but was trying to get you to share enough with the channel so someone can, run lspci and identify the wifi if an internal
[02:13] <Prufrock> agugu, I'd love to get me one.. :(
[02:13] <kieppie> howdy
[02:13] <evlapix> Aprel: http://pastebin.com/rkNPc97a
[02:13] <Caelthunderwing> hmm shoulda guessed ".imgc" was a compressed image by RawCopy
[02:13] <OerHeks> hi agugu, there are many system76 laptops, why son't you ask the real question and find out?
[02:13] <kieppie> I'm running 13.04 on a btrfs SSD
[02:13] <Caelthunderwing> but while it left a invalid partitining scheme it did work
[02:13] <agugu> alright :)
[02:13] <kieppie> I'm havng difficulty getting hibernation to work
[02:13] <kieppie> pm-hibernate does absolutely nothing
[02:13] <Caelthunderwing> (just to uncompress and do it again.)
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> kieppie, I assume there is a swap in there right?
[02:14] <agugu> the real question is if I were to choose between an t430 and one of the system76 based laptops
[02:14] <agugu> which one may be best for ubuntu 13.04
[02:14] <agugu> i will be mostly looking for larger ram to run VMs as well as good CPU power,
[02:15] <agugu> t430 do not have haswell cpus yet
[02:15] <sp00ky> 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1030 (rev 34)
[02:15] <agugu> but system76 does
[02:15] <OerHeks> agugu, "and one of the system76 laptops" ... there are MANY!
[02:15] <Nothing_Much> t430?
[02:15] <kieppie> wilee-nilee: a seperate swap partition, yes. I tried setting up a swapfile, but no dice. but yes, `swapon -s` shows an active swap space
[02:15] <OerHeks> !hcl > agugu
[02:16] <Ari-Yang> OerHeks, I think agugu is referring to this laptop https://www.system76.com/laptops/model/galu1
[02:16] <Aprel> evlapix: that's a mystery to me. I don't know why the owner has at least as many perms as the "other" group, but the "other" can access it but not the owner.
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> kieppie, Have you checked on the manufacturers model and hibernate running ubuntu some don't work, I have no idea in regards to btrfs
[02:17] <agugu> got the link ubottu
[02:17] <agugu> thx
[02:17] <kieppie> wilee-nilee: I've had hypernation working on this HP mini 110 netbook on a previous release (12.04 I believe)
[02:17] <raymond> Prufrock, I suggest filing a bug about your kernel panic.  Post the picture of the error message and everything.  the command to do so is:  ubuntu-bug linux-image
[02:18] <Prufrock> raymond, thank you very much. I will do it right away. :)
[02:18] <Bradford> bazhang: o_O
[02:18] <Bradford> https://www.smuxi.org/jaws/data/phoo/2010_07_25/smuxi-0.7.2-linx-main-window.png
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> sp00ky, You might look through these threads. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=Centrino+Wireless-N+1030+
[02:18] <Bradford> lol
[02:18] <FloodBot1> Bradford: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:18] <DWSR> histo: And if the partition table is mangled and isn't recognizable?
[02:19] <evlapix> Aprel: Here's the test case I've been working with: http://pastebin.com/emxYwpfz
[02:20] <histo> DWSR: Then I would use testdisk to repair it
[02:20] <histo> DWSR: how did it get mangled?
[02:20] <histo> DWSR: Or if you have knowledge on how it was partitioned you could guess the offset reliably
[02:20] <OerHeks> Ari-Yang, that would be i7 vs i5
[02:20] <DWSR> histo: It's a flash drive that has failed.
[02:21] <Cerales> Is there any way to get SSLv2 support without recompiling OpenSSL? I don't really want to compile OpenSSL on production systems, nor run my own packaging server.
[02:21] <napsc> agugu: One of the computers i have is a system 76.  No problems with 13.04.  Only thing i don't like is their shipping policy.  it's always on you.
[02:21] <Aprel> evlapix: the only thing I can think of is that user logstash has shell disabled and that's causing it, but I don't know.
[02:22] <histo> DWSR: Why do you think the parittion table is hosed?
[02:22] <DWSR> histo: Because the flash drive failed.
[02:22] <DWSR> histo: And gddrescue had about a 1GB chunk of data that it didn't get recovered.
[02:22] <histo> DWSR: parted /path/to/imagefile
[02:23] <evlapix> Aprel: That sounds promising. How can I check that?
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> kieppie, Just for chuckles I assume you know the test if it works, not questioning your skills I just start at the simplest varibles. https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html
[02:23] <DWSR> histo: Unrecognized disk label.
[02:23] <histo> DWSR: make sure you are specifying the path to your image file
[02:23] <DWSR> histo: I'm not super worried, honestly. It's mostly just configuration data that can be recovered very easily/.
[02:24] <DWSR> histo: I am
[02:24] <histo> DWSR: sudo parted /path/to/imagefile
[02:24] <DWSR> histo: Yep.
[02:24] <DWSR> It whined when I didn't do it as root, so I did it as root. Same result.
[02:24] <histo> DWSR: How was it partitioned one big partition?
[02:25] <kieppie> cheers wilee-nilee: I have run `sudo pm-hibernate` for test, but nothing happens, although the log seems OK. will pastebin
[02:25] <DWSR> histo: No, it was using the guided partition installer.
[02:26] <DWSR> 16GB flash stick.
[02:26] <histo> DWSR: what did you have installed there?
[02:26] <DWSR> histo: Ubuntu.
[02:26] <histo> DWSR: well then / should be the first partition using mbr partitioning most likely
[02:26] <DWSR> histo: It is, afaik
[02:27] <DWSR> wait.
[02:27] <histo> DWSR: okay one sec
[02:27] <DWSR> I think I recovered only the partition.
[02:27] <DWSR> Let me try.
[02:27] <histo> DWSR: well if that's the case then just mount it
[02:27] <Aprel> evlapix: check the /etc/passwd file.
[02:27] <DWSR> mount -t ext4 /path/to/file.img /mountpoint?
[02:28] <histo> DWSR: although you will have filessytem errors with 1gb of it being non recoverable
[02:28] <DWSR> histo: Yeah, I'm just looking for a few specific files. Don't care about most of the rest
[02:29] <DWSR> histo: Nope, still won't mount
[02:29] <DWSR> histo: Bad superblock, opt, or wrong fs type.
[02:30] <DWSR> histo: dmesg complains about bada geometry.
[02:30] <DWSR> bad*
[02:32] <histo> DWSR: Well what was your gddrescue command?
[02:32] <histo> DWSR: you could always carve the image for files
[02:32] <DWSR> histo: Using testdisk?
[02:33] <DWSR> pretty sure it was ddrescure /dev/sdp1 /oldsys/backup.img /oldsys/backup.log
[02:34] <histo> DWSR: yea that would just be the partition. What type of files are you trying to recover?
[02:34] <DWSR> ah, it was ddrescue -f -n /dev/sdp1 /oldsys/backup.img /oldsys/backup.log
[02:34] <DWSR> histo: Config files mostly. An install of headphones, sickbeard, couchpotato, and plexmediaserver.
[02:34] <DWSR> Pretty much don't care about anything else.
[02:35] <histo> DWSR: the issue is they are just text files without a header...
[02:35] <DWSR> There's no way to identify them by the folder they were residing in?
[02:36] <histo> DWSR: So I would try and repair the filesystem and mount it. Or use something like the sleuthkit to copy your data out if it can read the filesystem.
[02:36] <DWSR> meh.
[02:36] <DWSR> Seems like a lot of time and effort that I can just use to reinstall and reconfigure everything.
[02:36] <DWSR> Thanks though
[02:38] <robotdevil> what is the ntfsprogs package called now?
[02:39] <robotdevil> something I can do I scandisk and disk tools for livecd
[02:39] <histo> DWSR: data recovery all has to be measured by time and cost vs. the value of the data
[02:39] <robotdevil> from*
[02:39] <DWSR> histo: Yep.
[02:40] <histo> robotdevil: What are you trying to do repair ntfs from linux?
[02:40] <robotdevil> yes
[02:41] <Taek> robotdevil, did you just seriously say that?
[02:41] <robotdevil> hahahaha
[02:41] <Taek> and actually mean it..
[02:41] <robotdevil> ok will check hiens first but could someone just tell me the name
[02:41] <histo> robotdevil: it's been merged with ntfs-3g
[02:41] <robotdevil> ok so should be installed already
[02:43] <histo> !find ntfsfix
[02:43] <robotdevil> ok
[02:43] <histo> robotdevil: yeap ntfs-3g
[02:43] <robotdevil> thanks
[02:48] <cheetos> is it me or does portal on steam now say its only for windows and mac?
[02:51] <mortal1> does the ubuntuforums.org share the same login / password domain as login.ubuntu.com?
[02:51] <mortal1> ...and was that compromised?
[02:52] <histo> mortal1: did you see the notice on the page?
[02:52] <histo> s/see/read/
[02:53] <Samkov> where can i see a listing (and or search) trusted ubuntu packages. im a debian user so i have no idea where to go lol
[02:54] <histo> !packages | Samkov
[02:54] <Samkov> i mean on a web server, is there any web interface that i can do this on?
[02:55] <newb> hey guys I'm new to ubuntu and I dual boot it with Windows 7 on a dell laptop , lately i've been getting random bugs
[02:55] <tgm4883> Samkov, did you even read the message?
[02:55] <histo> Samkov: packages.ubuntu.com
[02:55] <newb> i just need some general advice, like... is there something you guys do to detect and fix errors like...
[02:55] <Samkov> ;)
[02:55] <histo> newb: log files
[02:56] <histo> Samkov: just like ubottu said
[02:56] <newb> histo:   ahh yes i've seen those!  what do you run to see like... the overall health of Ubuntu running on your system?
[02:57] <newb> I've been using bleachbit and it shows i have "120-something errors"
[02:57] <newb> anyone else use bleachbit?
[02:57] <histo> newb: Not familiar with bleachbit at all. If i have a problem with something I check logs
[02:58] <xmetal> i use bleachbit on a few different OS's
[02:59] <newb> xmetal:  ever use it on ubuntu and see the "errors " line?
[02:59] <newb> is it saying, it has corrected or detected errors?
[02:59] <histo> newb: what sort of errors is it whinning about?
[03:00] <xmetal> a temp file/location cleaner, detected and corrected errors?
[03:00] <lauratika> my system says i dont have swap space, but i add 4.5 gb of swapspace what can be the problem, why is not recognize by ubuntu?
[03:01] <newb> it just says errors... hmm
[03:01] <dlo121985> hello
[03:01] <newb> histo:  it appears i need to read up on log files and how to use them.  is this the bottom line for Ubuntu OS fixing?  how did you learn it? any reccomendations?
[03:01] <dlo121985> does anybody know how to look at the temperature logs in Ubuntu?
[03:02] <dlo121985> I'm afraid my computer is overheating and suddenly rebooting
[03:02] <histo> dlo121985: /var/log/messages may gleam some info
[03:02] <histo> !cli | newb
[03:03] <dlo121985> Thanks! I'll check that out
[03:03] <histo> newb: so because some third party program is saying there are errors you are concerned?
[03:03] <th0r> histo: isn't it /var/log/syslog now?
[03:03] <dlo121985> let me check
[03:03] <histo> th0r: whereever
[03:04] <th0r> histo: threw me for a loop too...still messages in debian, but ubuntu has I think changed it to syslog
[03:04] <dlo121985> it is /var/log/syslog
[03:04] <dlo121985> do you know of anything specifically i should be looking for?
[03:04] <histo> th0r: dlo121985 Not running ubuntu atm
[03:04] <histo> dlo121985: track back to when your system shutoff
[03:04] <newb> histo:     "!cli"    and yes somewhat,  i mean i just had this really frustrating erro where adjusting brightness would cause Ubuntu to crash unrecoverably
[03:05] <newb> histo:  what does "!cli"  mean?
[03:05] <dlo121985> histo: Thanks, I'll try that.
[03:05] <newb> i fixed that error though,
[03:06] <newb> but... every now and then Ubuntu will crash for some other currently unknown reasons...  so log files seems the way to go
[03:07] <histo> newb: !cli was a bot trigger to have ubottu tell you info about the command line
[03:08] <histo> newb: your brightness issue could be caused by some bug with your particular hardware. You can try passing some kernel options at boot to see
[03:09] <histo> newb: acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=legacy   try adding those to your kernel line during boot
[03:10] <newb> ah yes, this Unbuntu install is still pretty fresh, idk how the drivers worked out and uhh oh I fixed the brightness thing, googled it. and i added something to the grab default that looked a lot like what you said there, but different
[03:10] <newb> *grub
[03:11] <newb> also when my wifi is on and off constantly ...sometimes when I'm at my college, because they prompt for user credentials...
[03:11] <hemache> Hello everybody
[03:12] <DuncanNZ> hemache: hi
[03:13] <evlapix> Aprel: No difference between nginx and logstash: http://pastebin.com/ZYm8SSmZ
[03:13] <thurstylark> Why does vinagre not accept my password that is longer than 8 characters?
[03:14] <DuncanNZ> thurstylark: what does it do instead? what OS are you connecting to?
[03:14] <hemache> has anyone tried the new command line pastebin named QPaste ?
[03:15] <thurstylark> DuncanNZ: i'm connecting to a Mac. Vinagre will only let me type a maximum of 8 characters in the password box.
[03:15] <ianorlin> no I use pastebinit
[03:15] <OerHeks> thurstylark, old bug > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vinagre/+bug/483696
[03:15] <Aprel> evlapix: That's very strange. You should try asking your question again when more people are around. Surely someone will have an answer, but I am stumped.
[03:16] <DuncanNZ> thurstylark: hmm that's odd, my password (to a windows vnc server) is 6 chars long, and I never realised this limit but yes I can reproduce
[03:16] <DuncanNZ> what an odd thing to be a bug in the first place, it's like they randomly set maxlength to 8. there must be a reason
[03:16] <DuncanNZ> I'll look at the bug report
[03:17] <thurstylark> DuncanNZ: Thanks!
[03:17] <evlapix> Aprel: You're being stumped is a good clue. Thanks for your help.
[03:17] <cheetos> is portal for linux no longer availalbe for linux? http://store.steampowered.com/app/400/
[03:17] <linux> I had my home network server connected but it is not showing up in dolphin any more. using precise 12.04. Any way to reconnect?
[03:18] <DuncanNZ> thurstylark: Yep the bug report says it's part of the VNC spec, so actually your Mac is non-conformant. You should just use a shorter password.
[03:20] <histo> linux: just like you connected to it before
[03:20] <thurstylark> DuncanNZ: welp. poop.
[03:20] <thurstylark> DuncanNZ: thanks for the info!
[03:20] <histo> cheetos: you'd probably have to contact steam and ask them
[03:20] <histo> cheetos: or valve
[03:20] <DuncanNZ> thurstylark: np. I think that's really weirdtoo
[03:20] <DuncanNZ> *weird too
[03:20] <OerHeks> cheetos, or try #ubuntu-steam
[03:20] <linux> I do not know where it went do not remember if it was dolphin? It just appeared.
[03:22] <OerHeks> DuncanNZ, agreed, like outlook.com is limited to 16 digits
[03:22] <cheetos> yea
[03:32] <ghostnik11> i can't see my display screen on my laptop since i installed linux distro
[03:32] <ghostnik11> is there anyway i can see my laptop display
[03:33] <holstein> ghostnik11: i would need more details
[03:34] <ghostnik11> i have a lenovo ideapad s400 and just installed linux mint but after installation i can't see any think on my laptop screen so i have used a hdmi cable and connected the display to my tv
[03:34] <holstein> ghostnik11: try ubuntu.. try a xubuntu live CD
[03:34] <holstein> !xubuntu
[03:35] <holstein> ghostnik11: xubuntu uses XFCE which might work better with your hardware
[03:35] <holstein> !mint | ghostnik11
[03:36] <xmetal> really ?
[03:36] <xmetal> i was almost going to dowlnoad xubuntu tomorrow ... would have been foolish i guess since i have the xfce packages "seperately"
[03:41] <MidnightNinja_> Can anyone tell me how to increase the size of an ubuntu installation?(NOT WUBI)
[03:41] <MidnightNinja_> I have some extra free space, and Id like to migrate that to my ubuntu installation
[03:41] <lauratika> videos and music paus right after selected in clementine and in youtube...
[03:41] <lauratika> i dont have audio
[03:41] <holstein> MidnightNinja_: i use gparted from a live CD
[03:42] <MidnightNinja_> I can just extend the partition without wiping it?
[03:42] <holstein> MidnightNinja_: you should *always* have backups.. since all hard drives fail
[03:43] <MidnightNinja_> Holstein: so the only way to do this is to format the drive and repartition it
[03:43] <DragonDon_> here here holstein !
[03:44] <lauratika> it was working fine, but after reboot isnt working any more
[03:44] <holstein> MidnightNinja_: no.. you literally stretch the partition out with a live CD using gparted, as i said. if you want me to say, it wont break, i answer with, you should have backups anyway
[03:44] <xmetal> audicous (sp?) is what i use for audio
[03:44] <MidnightNinja_> holstein: how do you recommend I make a backup?
[03:45] <MidnightNinja_> or do you mean just backup my files?
[03:45] <holstein> MidnightNinja_: however you will constantly do that.. clonezilla clones.. cloud storage such as a website, or ubuntuone or dropbox.. or a big hard drive, via USB or network
[03:45] <MidnightNinja_> ah gotcha
[03:45] <holstein> MidnightNinja_: i mean, you hit the power button, and that drive is dead.. whatever you would want, and however you woul back that up
[03:46] <lauratika> now video is working but no audio coming, test in audio preference also wont bring any sound
[03:46] <holstein> MidnightNinja_: plan for that, and if anything goes wrong while you are growing the partition out, and it can, though its likely not going to happen.. you will be fine, and prepared
[03:46] <MidnightNinja_> gotcha
[03:46] <MidnightNinja_> holstein: thanks for the help!
[03:46] <holstein> MidnightNinja_: sure
[03:47] <MidnightNinja_> okay, be back in a bit with a hopefully larger partition!
[03:47] <joubin> Has anyone seen this: http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge
[03:47] <joubin> Should I do it? the 830
[03:48] <holstein> lauratika: youtube is flash.. please open a known good audio file in a known good player, and get it playing.. open pavucontrol (install it if you dont have it)
[03:49] <xmetal> i have to say if i had a limited amount of apps/tools with me (software wise), Gparted with be near the top of the list
[03:49] <lauratika> holstein: no audio from clementine, or youtube or the cd rom
[03:49] <lauratika> in alsamixxer all volumes are up
[03:50] <holstein> lauratika: youtube is irrelvant, and we are not going to discuss it, ok?
[03:50] <holstein> lauratika: it is flash
[03:50] <holstein> lauratika: get a known good audio playing playing a known good audio file, and open pavucontrol, please
[03:50] <lauratika> holstein: yeah, the whole point is no source of audio is working, ok?
[03:50] <holstein> lauratika: OK.. would you like to wait for another volunteer
[03:50] <holstein> ?
[03:51] <lauratika> what ever works best for you, im sintalling pavucontrol
[03:52] <lauratika> now is open
[03:53] <holstein> if you get an audio file playing, you should see the meters moving, and be able to route.. you should see if your device is loaded
[03:53] <lauratika> i try to play the audio but is paused some how
[03:54] <lauratika> meters are not moving
[03:54] <holstein> lauratika: then, open another player, and get it playing without pausing it
[03:55] <lauratika> yes,  thsta the weird thing is not playing at all, totem or clementine
[03:55] <lauratika> it wont play at all
[03:56] <pepper_chico> can anyone help me here, I've setup my PATH variable with additional values at my .bashrc, which is also sourced by my .profile file. Anyway, when I start an application, like GVIM, from some launcher instead from the bash, it doesn't start with PATH, I mean, the bash environment, properly inherented and set
[03:56] <pepper_chico> how to fix this?
[03:56] <lauratika> is like is in pause, but im not pausing , more like stop, then hit play and nothing. in clementine or totem
[03:57] <cantstanya> what's that chat channel again
[03:57] <cantstanya> ubungoo-chat?
[03:57] <cantstanya> !help | whatisit
[03:57] <cantstanya> you suck ubottu
[03:58] <holstein> lauratika: launch them from the command line and see if you see output.. open a terminal and run "aplay -l" and see that your device is listed there
[03:59] <lauratika> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[03:59] <lauratika> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC662 rev1 Analog [ALC662 rev1 Analog]
[03:59] <lauratika>   Subdevices: 0/1
[03:59] <lauratika>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[03:59] <FloodBot1> lauratika: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:59] <holstein> !paste | lauratika
[03:59] <lauratika> sorry
[03:59] <holstein> lauratika: you can look and see if its there.. the point is, if you dont have output there, you'll never get audio
[04:00] <holstein> lauratika: did you do an upgrade? and reboot? and it was like this? do you have usb audio devices connected? do you have a live CD handy to test the hardware?
[04:01] <lauratika> only thing i did was changing swap space in fstab and installing airtime, and yes i have a live cd
[04:02] <holstein> lauratika: then, you can update and try, since you havent.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and reboot
[04:02] <lauratika> this is the output when trying to play a file from clementine from terminal. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5902839/
[04:03] <poz> is there a way to shrink the size of unity past the 32 setting available in the appearance system settings?
[04:04] <holstein> poz: the size of the bar? the launcher?
[04:05] <lauratika> holstein: im upgrading now and rebooting, by the way i did reboot 2 times already withour the upgrade of course, wonder what can be the issue here
[04:05] <holstein> lauratika: let us know if you are still experiencing issues outside the browser with audio when you upgrade and reboot
[04:06] <sirdeseagull> hi is this the only channel?
[04:06] <sirdeseagull> in xchat?
[04:06] <lauratika> holstein: sure, brb
[04:06] <holstein> sirdeseagull: no.. xchat is a chat client.. there are many channels on this server.. freenode
[04:06] <lauratika> sirdeseagull: you mean freenode
[04:06] <poz> holstein, the size of the bar
[04:06] <poz> and the launcher too
[04:06] <poz> both are far to big
[04:06] <sirdeseagull> well i dunno
[04:07] <sirdeseagull> can you help me
[04:07] <lauratika> sirdeseagull:with what
[04:07] <sirdeseagull> i dunno how this ting work
[04:07] <sirdeseagull> how do i find more channel
[04:07] <sirdeseagull> or freenod
[04:07] <lauratika> you are in ubuntu channel, and is related to ubuntu questions.
[04:07] <holstein> sirdeseagull: read the /topic of the channels are /join.. right now, you are "chatting" in a support channel
[04:07] <sirdeseagull> that i can see
[04:08] <lauratika> sirdeseagull: then you need to read info about using xchat
[04:08] <sirdeseagull> but how do i open more window on other subject
[04:08] <holstein> sirdeseagull: you can try /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:08] <sirdeseagull> aite
[04:08] <sirdeseagull> hehe
[04:08] <sirdeseagull> sorry
[04:08] <FloodBot1> sirdeseagull: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:08] <lauratika> help! | sirdeseagull
[04:08] <sirdeseagull> oh and what i just did is called flooding?
[04:08] <xmetal>  #xchat may be a great place to ask
[04:09] <xmetal> if thats your client
[04:09] <sirdeseagull> ok ty
[04:09] <holstein> sirdeseagull: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist
[04:12] <poz> anyone know how to customize the dash?
[04:13] <jubei> Guys I have a weird problem.  Even though I upgraded to 13.04 sometimes ( usually on my 1st boot) it boots into ubuntu 12.10 and offers me to upgrade my system. If then just reboot it almost always reboots into 13.04
[04:14] <holstein> jubei: sounds like you are dual booting.. and having grub isues
[04:14] <holstein> issues*
[04:16] <jubei> holstein, any ideas on how to resolve them?
[04:16] <nydel> anyone ever use a system76 computer? i'm thinking about ordering one of their ubuntu-ready laptops
[04:16] <holstein> jubei: i would confirm if you are dual booting or not, and if you are, and dont want to be, remove 12.10, and leave only 13.04, and reset grub, or reinstall it
[04:17] <holstein> nydel: i have. the only reason not to is the cost, though they are a good value
[04:18] <lauratika> same as the ubuntu phone 600 for 24 launch
[04:18] <holstein> nydel: i plan on purchasing system76 for the out of the box support
[04:18] <poz> anyone know how to resize the dash in unity?
[04:19] <holstein> poz: im sure you cant do what you are wanting to do by defaul
[04:19] <holstein> default*
[04:19] <nydel> holstein: the middle-of-the-line laptop comes to just over $1k with no bells & whistles, just memory upgrade - i don't think that's //too// bad
[04:19] <poz> holstein, what are you suggesting?
[04:19] <holstein> poz: i havent suggested anything yet
[04:19] <xangua> poz: clic the maximize/restore button
[04:19] <nydel> holstein: do you know of any other linux-friendly options? my other plan is to buy a cheap HP & reformat it
[04:19] <somsip> !info mysql
[04:19] <poz> holstein, good, becuase it sounded like you were suggesting that ubuntu cant resize a window
[04:20] <somsip> !info mysqld
[04:20] <somsip> !info mysql-server
[04:20] <poz> xangua, it goes fullscreen to just 'large'
[04:20] <holstein> poz: if this unsupported 3rd party ppa package doesnt do what you want, try another DE http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/unity-tweak-tool-is-now-available-in-raring
[04:20] <xangua> holstein: poz it does not
[04:21] <OerHeks> poz hold ctrl + use scrollwheel
[04:21] <holstein> poz: you are not asking to "resize a window".. you are asking to resize system elements are are made to work within parameters
[04:21] <holstein> poz: there are *many* other options if you find you cannot make unity look/feel as you want
[04:21] <poz> OerHeks, no workie
[04:22] <poz> holstein, the tweak tool does not do it. but thank you for trying
[04:22] <poz> i will keep looking. but there are more importent matters... has everyone bought there ubuntu edge?!
[04:23] <OerHeks> poz how is that important?
[04:23] <poz> Because they need to make their target.
[04:23] <poz> of 32 mill
[04:23] <poz> for me to get my phone
[04:23] <poz> and to support ubuntu
[04:25] <sirdeseagull> the ubuntu phone is already out?
[04:25] <genii> sirdeseagull: March next year, hopefully.
[04:26] <genii> May, rather
[04:26] <sirdeseagull> nice, ive seen the video about it, i hope it really is what they say it is and plus
[04:27] <poz> sirdeseagull, go buy one!
[04:27] <nassepossu> apparently update from 25 to 26 broke my touchpad support, how can i reinstall the update or do something else smart?
[04:27] <holstein> they are talking about the edge phone in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[04:27] <poz> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge
[04:27] <xangua> nassepossu: did you try the previous kernel¿
[04:28] <nassepossu> i used the boot menus option to start ubuntu <something> 30.0(?).25
[04:28] <nassepossu> and it works here
[04:28] <nassepossu> *3...
[04:29] <poz> thanks holstein
[04:31] <nassepossu> yea, i'm currently on 3.8.0-25-generic and the one above (3.8.0-31??) causes ubuntu to not detect touchpad
[04:32] <genii> nassepossu: I had a similar issue recently, reinstalling xserver-xorg-input-synaptics worked.
[04:35] <RaveYoda> Hello everyone. OK, I've got a bit of a problem. For a while now whenever I install/remove/ or just do anything remotely oriented towards program management the system freezes at the point of configuring the program.
[04:36] <RaveYoda> I can still use the system but the program refuses to configure leaving itself in a broken state
[04:36] <Coburn> RaveYoda: have you looked at 'top' in a terminal to ensure it's not busy doing something?
[04:37] <RaveYoda> Yup, it sits there untill i kill the process and remove the dpkg locks
[04:38] <RaveYoda> then i have to sudo dpkg --configure -a the system to load up synaptic or anything else for that matter
[04:38] <RaveYoda> it still doesn't config the said program
[04:39] <RaveYoda> This has happened with virtualbox and wicd
[04:39] <Coburn> Sounds like you're going to need a reinstall :(
[04:39] <Coburn> Soudns like something's seriously corrupt
[04:39] <Locuan> Hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu 13.04 on my hp envy 14 laptop. I am trying to run the setup from a cd. However, after running the cd the screen goes black and nothing appears. However, audio works as I can hear the setup loading to what I guess is the menu. I believe this is a problem with the graphics card since it is switchable graphics. If anyone is able to help me I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
[04:39] <RaveYoda> it also happens with other packages as well. Well, you see, I don't really want to do that. XD
[04:40] <Coburn> RaveYoda: backup your home partition, then get the install disc and bowl it over :P
[04:40] <RaveYoda> Btw, this also happens in Ubuntu-builder
[04:40] <Coburn> Locuan: what GPU do you have? Intel HD Graphics and ATI/nVidia?
[04:40] <RaveYoda> Uggghhh
[04:41] <RaveYoda> Thx....
[04:41] <RaveYoda> =/
[04:41] <Locuan> yep Coburn, Intel HD Graphics/AMD
[04:41] <RaveYoda> Anyone else got any ideas?
[04:41] <Coburn> wait, RaveYoda
[04:41] <Coburn> Before you do that
[04:41] <RaveYoda> Ok?
[04:42] <Coburn> you could... resize the root parition, make a new one, copy /home to that and then when you reformat, your data will be intact
[04:42] <Coburn> in the installer, you just say "use /dev/sda2 for /home, don't format"
[04:42] <Coburn> that way you lose apps but not your data
[04:42] <Coburn> :)
[04:42] <RaveYoda> I'm running two drives. One's an ssd the other an hdd
[04:43] <RaveYoda> this still apply?
[04:43] <Coburn> Where is Ubuntu instaleld?
[04:43] <Coburn> Locuan: Haven't really had any experience with Intel/AMD switchable graphics, I have Intel/nVidia
[04:43] <Coburn> It could be taht the AMD graphics is enabled, but everything is being output to the Intel HD
[04:44] <Coburn> What's your model number, Locuan
[04:44] <Locuan> Coburn: I see, one second let me get that information.
[04:44] <RaveYoda> Well, technically it's Mint and not Ubu; though i've done major renovations with it's sys. I'm going for a minimalist approach and have dumped a lot of core sys packages associated with Mint
[04:45] <RaveYoda> the thing is, it was running swell up till a week ago or so
[04:45] <RaveYoda> anyway, root is on ssd
[04:45] <RaveYoda> home on hdd
[04:45] <Coburn> Well ok
[04:45] <Coburn> then that backup /home doesn't apply then
[04:45] <RaveYoda> I figure i could shrink roots partition and near clone it over
[04:46] <Coburn> since if you hose the SSD, your /home is fine
[04:46] <Coburn> Just reinstall the OS, but make sure you set it to mount the HDD partition in question as /home
[04:46] <Coburn> :)
[04:47] <RaveYoda> XD Done it many a times. I just reallllyyyy don't ant to do that. I feel as if the problem lies with dpkg, apt, or the source files
[04:47] <resting> if my /etc/lsb-release file has been changed…how do i know the original version of my ubuntu?
[04:48] <RaveYoda> Reinstalling is like...the last option on my plate Couburn
[04:48] <rannonga> rest, what do you mean?
[04:48] <rannonga> the version like 13.04?
[04:50] <RaveYoda> I say the laassst option mainly because I seem to "break" my OS every three months. I'm trying to go the "fix it with love or duckt tape" approach
[04:51] <Locuan> Coburn: Prod #: XZ211UA#ABA
[04:51] <RaveYoda> Is there a way to purge purge the repo list a dpkg settings so it's nearly like new?
[04:51] <Coburn> nope afaik
[04:52] <Coburn> Locuan:  Is there a Model #? like ENVY14-002 or something?
[04:52] <holstein> !ppapurge
[04:52] <RaveYoda> Is there a way to purge purge the repo list and dpkg settings so it's nearly like new?
[04:52] <RaveYoda> oops
[04:52] <holstein> RaveYoda: ^
[04:52] <Locuan> Coburn: Model #: 14 - 1260SE
[04:52] <rannonga> ENVY 14-1260SE
[04:52] <Locuan> yep that one
[04:52] <ncd2> hi all
[04:52] <ncd2> do i need any antivirus with ubuntu
[04:53] <Apricot> no
[04:53] <Coburn> ncd2: No, Ubuntu is secure from day 1
[04:53] <Coburn> unlike a certain payware OS :P
[04:53] <rannonga> lol]
[04:53] <Apricot> :))
[04:53] <ncd2> what about firewall
[04:53] <RaveYoda> nci, you don't need it but can get one. Avast has a free one for linux
[04:54] <RaveYoda> thx ubottu
[04:54] <Coburn> ncd2: You have one enabled, but it's more so "stealth". Means that it's got your arse if you need it's protection
[04:54] <genii> RaveYoda: Also there's a vanilla sources.list in /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
[04:54] <rannonga> !clamtk
[04:54] <rannonga> !vlc
[04:54] <Coburn> pardon my not-so-familyfriendly language, but linux saves lives
[04:54] <Coburn> Locuan: http://linuxenvy.blogspot.com.au/2011/01/first-solutions.html (quick google, this should get you sorted!)
[04:54] <ncd2> cool thx
[04:55] <rannonga> is ubottu a bot?
[04:55] <RaveYoda> Ohh?? Do i just cp it to the other location?
[04:55] <Coburn> yes rannonga
[04:55] <rannonga> k thx
[04:55] <Locuan> Coburn: Thanks!
[04:55] <Coburn> Apparently the blacklight, Locuan, gets set to 0%
[04:55] <Coburn> meaning you can't see jack squat
[04:55] <holstein> !bot
[04:55] <Coburn> It's like fumbling around in the dark without a lightswitch
[04:56] <ncd2> so i can have ubuntu side by side with windows?
[04:56] <Locuan> Interesting.
[04:56] <holstein> !dualboot | ncd2
[04:58] <pepper_chico> Is there a way for GUI launched apps to have my environment variables set as configured in .bashrc?
[04:59] <pepper_chico> I meant, to have the env vars inherented
[05:01] <RaveYoda> So, who heard about ubuntu forums getting hacked?
[05:02] <holstein> RaveYoda: i think they heard about it on the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[05:02] <rannonga> why was it you?
[05:03] <RaveYoda> DX Hell no
[05:03] <RaveYoda> Still, i'm surprised it happened
[05:03] <holstein> !language | RaveYoda
[05:03] <insGadget> that's why I am here. I woke up tody and tried to google how to blacklist my fingerprint reader and got the splash page. I always try the forums first :)
[05:04] <RaveYoda> I find it funny a big selling point for linux is security and yet they get their forums hacked. It's dissapointing
[05:04] <RaveYoda> Ahhh, sorry
[05:05] <insGadget> its people who are jealous from within the Linux community of canonical teams sucess
[05:05] <xangua> !ot | RaveYoda insGadget
[05:06] <insGadget> lol later!
[05:07] <RaveYoda> XD Ugghh, not doing so well with the rules. Sorry everyone. Anyway, back to my problem. Any clues guys on what may be causing the failing of configuring pkgs?
[05:07] <resting> if my /etc/lsb-release file has been changed…how do i know the original version of my ubuntu?
[05:08] <RaveYoda> I've reset my source list but wont know if it fixes anything until I've a chance to give it a go.
[05:12] <RaveYoda> OK, Trying an apt-get update now tells me type '' is not known on line one
[05:14] <DragonDon_> this might sound noobish, but is there a way to restart X and remember currently opened programs/windows?
[05:14] <rannonga> hibernate?
[05:15] <DragonDon_> crap....unity just up and died again....sigh...
[05:15] <rannonga> wow drivers?
[05:15] <RaveYoda> Typing  apt-get update now tells me "type '' is not known on line one"
[05:15] <RaveYoda> now it say deb is not known on line one
 dunno....this is a new install....I reset it once already....this is getting tedious....thinking of ditching unity now...
[05:16] <RaveYoda> Use openbox
[05:16] <RaveYoda> =D
[05:16] <RaveYoda> OR gnome
[05:17] <DragonDon_> yeah....maybe go back to gnome (althought  gnome is one of the reasons why I ended up with Ubuntu from Debian...long story)
[05:17] <RaveYoda> though I prefer lighter desktop mngrs
[05:18] <DragonDon_> so, never having really 'switched' DMs....I'm installing openbox now...how would I set it as the default DMs?  I suspect just running 'openbox' from the terminal will start it...
[05:19] <rannonga> it doesnt really matter, it should be an option when you logout and log back in
[05:19] <DragonDon_> sigh...was hoping I didn't have log out/in again....
[05:19] <rannonga> whats wrong with that?
[05:20] <DragonDon_> because this is a new setup, I've not configured the auto-logins for IRC....pita to type in /msg nickserv stuff again...
[05:20] <webmobi> how can we configure smil file
[05:20] <RaveYoda> Hey, just a heads up...openbox is really light.... Right click to access menues. Also, you may want to get nitrogen so it'll manage your background
[05:20] <rannonga> oh
[05:21] <DragonDon_> RaveYoda, what is nitrogen?  I want to run conky to add some live info to my desktop.
[05:21] <webmobi> for streaming two with two bit rate
[05:21] <rannonga> nitrogen is a wallpaper manager, openbox does't come by default with one
[05:21] <rannonga> feh is another one
[05:22] <gag> hi there
[05:22] <DragonDon_> I've got feh installed now....was suggested by one site ....ok, gonna reboot now...
[05:22] <rannonga> k
[05:22] <sin_tax> can anyone help me figure out what is up with this server? I can't get aptitude to upgrade my packages: http://pastebin.com/Fu0ugPFe
[05:22] <RaveYoda> yeah, but nitrogen is cooler. With dual monitors it sets seperate wallpapers for each monitor
[05:23] <sin_tax> lines 10 and 11 of the paste make no sense
[05:23] <rannonga> lol
[05:23] <gag> archive manager is not working in ubuntu 12.04 please anyone can help me..?
[05:24] <gag> i cant able to extract files in ubutnu
[05:24] <rannonga> what files?
[05:25] <aeon-ltd> gag: details of what you're trying to extract and what happens when you try will be useful
[05:25] <gag> rannonga: TAR.GZ,ZIP
[05:25] <rannonga> try using unzip from terminal first it just might be the software
[05:25] <DragonDon_> ok....OB is confusing to use initially....how do I get to any of my programs?
[05:25] <rannonga> right click
[05:26] <DragonDon_> right-click does not give me access to installed stuff....only a few things.
[05:26] <rannonga> also you might want to install a taskbar or dock like tint2 or docky
[05:26] <gag> rannonga: from terminal its working but right click option not working
[05:27] <aeon-ltd> DragonDon_: OB - openbox? you need to configure the menus with obmenu
[05:27] <RaveYoda> Razorqt-pannel is best for pannels
[05:27] <rannonga> k
[05:27] <DragonDon_> aeon-ltd, thanks....run that from a terminal I take it?
[05:27] <DragonDon_> well, have to install obmenu it seems....
[05:27] <aeon-ltd> DragonDon_: :)
[05:29] <jacks1> Hello! After suspending my session when I open my laptop flap again the screen flickers and doesn't boot.
[05:29] <RaveYoda> umm, there is a prog within synaptic to install a menureader that get's ubuntu's default stuff
[05:29] <aeon-ltd> DragonDon_: you can choose to configure the xml files directly though :)
[05:29] <RaveYoda> It's easyer than manually setting it up
[05:29] <rannonga> gag, try reinstalling file-roller
[05:29] <RaveYoda> Plus, razorqt-pannel is not in repos initially
[05:29] <DragonDon_> are the xml files located in the home dir?
[05:30] <aeon-ltd> DragonDon_: hidden in dot folders yeah, there are global ones aswell i think
[05:30] <DragonDon_> ls -al
[05:30] <DragonDon_> doh
[05:31] <RaveYoda> I don't know. the prog is openbox-xdgmenu
[05:32] <DragonDon_> aeon-ltd, hmm, don't see any .openbox folder....stored somewhere else?
[05:32] <DragonDon_> RaveYoda, what is openbox-xdgmenu?
[05:33] <RaveYoda> create one
[05:33] <RaveYoda> Dragon, create one
[05:33] <RaveYoda> in it add an autostart.sh file
[05:33] <aeon-ltd> DragonDon_: .config/openbox
[05:33] <RaveYoda> btw, here is where you can get the repo for Razorqt pannel https://launchpad.net/~razor-qt/+archive/ppa/
[05:34] <aeon-ltd> DragonDon_: ~/.config/openbox/menu.xml
[05:34] <RaveYoda> aeon is correct dragon, sorry
[05:34] <RaveYoda> XD
[05:34] <rannonga>  ppa:razor-qt/ppa, Rave
[05:35] <RaveYoda> I'm sorry rannonga? What?
[05:35] <rannonga> thats the repo for the site, isnt that what you asked?
[05:36] <DragonDon_> ugh....I need to get on teamspeak....this is taking too long atm....thanks for your help, will look at this later....gues it's gnome for now
[05:36] <RaveYoda> Dragon, openbox-xdgmenu is what pulls the menu list for programs
[05:36] <DragonDon_> thanks RaveYoda
[05:36] <RaveYoda> it's not perfect though and misses a few listing
[05:36] <RaveYoda> No prob mate, good luck
[05:37] <RaveYoda> oh, I was giving the link to him, Dragon,
[05:37] <DragonDon_> sigh...just want something that's ncie and stable and I can customize some....
[05:37] <WorstCaseOntario> Hey there I am trying to fix SAMBA after my system crashed due to accidentally unplugging the harddrive. SAMBA is no longer working. when I enter the smbtree command it now returns nothing
[05:37] <RaveYoda> I have the repo
[05:38] <RaveYoda> uhhhh...then you'll like gnome. Or the mate desktop
[05:38] <RaveYoda> but gnome is prettyer than mate by far
[05:39] <DragonDon_> while waiting....I just installed TeamSpeak.....dont know how to run it from a terminal....sigh
[05:39] <RaveYoda> type teamspeak?
[05:39] <RaveYoda> or...begin typing it and then press tab
[05:39] <DragonDon_> command not found :(
[05:39] <RaveYoda> it should auto find the command given enough letters
[05:39] <RaveYoda> hmmm
[05:40] <OerHeks> WorstCaseOntario, so your HDD is oke?
[05:40] <DragonDon_> sadly, that does not work either....tried it....how annoying really
[05:40] <bazhang> !info teamspeak-client | DragonDon_
[05:40] <RaveYoda> XD Oh mai
[05:41] <WorstCaseOntario> yes I run off a USB HD, it got unplugged and there was a "kernel panic"
[05:41] <DragonDon_> and yet, a locate teamspeak, find a desktop icon...
[05:41] <DragonDon_> WorstCaseOntario, hey...a fellow Canuck!
[05:41] <WorstCaseOntario> lol
[05:41] <RaveYoda> got skype?
[05:41] <OerHeks> WorstCaseOntario, that sounds like your HDD is not oke?
[05:41] <RaveYoda> Dragon?
[05:41] <DragonDon_> bazhang, thnks but I downloaded ts3 from their site
[05:42] <bazhang> DragonDon_, thats not how to install software in ubuntu. use the repos
[05:42] <DragonDon_> RaveYoda, eww...Skype has been getting worse every since M$ took over....besides, another group is on ts, so need to get it running
[05:42] <bazhang> !repos | DragonDon_
[05:42] <RaveYoda> ohhh
[05:42] <WorstCaseOntario> the system has booted back up from the usb drive everything seems alright except samba no longer working
[05:42] <RaveYoda> well, i need to join in on that
[05:43] <RaveYoda> but I can't
[05:43] <RaveYoda> because my repo now hates me
[05:43] <WorstCaseOntario> Dragon I'm not canadian I just like canadian TV shows =P
[05:43] <Elitenudel2500> hey
[05:43] <DragonDon_> bazhang, I know how to install from repos....but that is not the only way to install software.  TS3 is not in the repos....TS2 was, and that's of no use to me
[05:44] <Elitenudel2500> I'm having problem
[05:44] <RaveYoda> E: Type '﻿' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:44] <RaveYoda> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[05:44] <DragonDon_> WorstCaseOntario, interesting..
[05:44] <RaveYoda> We all are Elitemude
[05:44] <RaveYoda> =]
[05:44] <Elitenudel2500> amdcccle requires reboot every time i change something :O'
[05:44] <Elitenudel2500> what should i do?
[05:44] <RaveYoda> Can some one help me out with that error
[05:45] <RaveYoda> Is this for every change?
[05:45] <RaveYoda> Even color corrections envoke it?
[05:45] <DragonDon_> RaveYoda, sounds like a space is where it shouldn't be?
[05:46] <RaveYoda> T.T Dragon...I looked
[05:46] <RaveYoda> I can't find it
[05:46] <DragonDon_> post up your sources.list?
[05:46] <RaveYoda> Uh,, by cp and pst?
[05:46] <DragonDon_> nono!   paste.ubuntu.net (I think)
[05:47] <hanuman_> how can i write asterisk autimated installation script in ubuntu
[05:47] <kanupatar> Can dataQ ~ messageQ ?
[05:47] <krz> my audio plays, but is terrible on spotify
[05:47] <krz> geezzzz
[05:47] <DragonDon_> RaveYoda, http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[05:47] <krz> its so bad. like the bass is flat
[05:47] <RaveYoda> I'm not sure on how to do that. This is litterally my fst time on the hlp board
[05:47] <DragonDon_> then cp the link here
[05:47] <RaveYoda> ahhh
[05:47] <RaveYoda> ok
[05:47] <krz> anyone experience this nonesense?
[05:48] <RaveYoda> ok
[05:49] <RaveYoda> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5903047/
[05:49] <dnivra> Hello. I'm running Kubuntu 12.04.2. I was resizing a partition and using the machine simultaneously. I thought the machine locked up and ended up removing the power to the machine. Now, the OS doesn't recognize the partition type. I suppose the only way to make it usable is to format it. Is there some way to recover the data on that partition?
[05:50] <RaveYoda> oh, dear, i pasted the wring list.
[05:50] <krz> when is linux ever going to be painless?
[05:50] <OerHeks> dnivra, what trick did you do, it is almost impossible to resise a partition in use.
[05:51] <RaveYoda> let me try again
[05:51] <krz> calibratin sucks
[05:51] <krz> audio sucks
[05:51] <krz> calibration*
[05:51] <FloodBot1> krz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:51] <dnivra> OerHeks: Oh the partition was not in use. I had unmounted it and resized it using the partition manager.
[05:51] <krz> OS reports a few issues every so often
[05:51] <krz> how frustrating
[05:51] <RaveYoda> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5903050/
[05:51] <aeon-ltd> krz: windows isn't painless either
[05:51] <RaveYoda> There Dragon
[05:52] <krz> aeon-ltd: wasnt referring to windows though. im coming from osx
[05:52] <krz> everything JUST works
[05:52] <rannonga> hate that os
[05:52] <RaveYoda> brb Dragon
[05:52] <DragonDon_> RaveYoda, wrong list?  how did you do that?
[05:52] <DragonDon_> ok
[05:52] <dnivra> OerHeks: it was an additional NTFS partition I had on my machine. I wanted to increase the size of Ubuntu's root partition and so was resizing that partition to get free space.
[05:52] <krz> rannonga: you dont know shit then
[05:52] <rannonga> lol
[05:52] <aeon-ltd> krz: not fair though, apple make the hw and the sw
[05:53] <krz> aeon-ltd: thats a valid point
[05:53] <DragonDon_> aeon-ltd, *china
[05:53] <RaveYoda> I have two up and the one I pasted was not edited right befor I put in repo
[05:53] <rannonga> krz: i can't get used to it
[05:53] <RaveYoda> brb
[05:53] <krz> but simple things like audio, is terrible on linux
[05:53] <rannonga> yeah thats true video drivers are hell
[05:53] <krz> im an audiophile, and man does this sound cripple me
[05:53] <krz> with tears
[05:53] <aeon-ltd> i'm guessing you're probably not on intel for audio
[05:53] <DragonDon_> krz, umm.....why are you here again?  sounds odd that you are complaining about such things on a help channel for such things :)
[05:54] <WorstCaseOntario> what kills me on the audio is no MediaMonkey on linux =(
[05:54] <krz> DragonDon_: wondering if there is a solution?
[05:54] <krz> spotify is basically useless on linux
[05:54] <DragonDon_> krz, probably best to find a spotify channel and find those linux users....that would be better methinks
[05:54] <krz> or ubuntu perse
[05:55] <DragonDon_> krz, you saw this of course right? https://www.spotify.com/us/blog/archives/2010/07/12/linux/
[05:56] <krz> you know thats all the way back to 2010 right?
[05:56] <OerHeks> dnivra, try the live iso and backup your data , as the data is not in the /root partition it should be possible.
[05:56] <krz> its not just spotify though. yt videos. anything with audio
[05:56] <DragonDon_> yeah, I saw that....the feedback would still work methinks :)
[05:57] <RaveYoda> OK, back Dragon
[05:57] <DragonDon_> krz, "There is no officially supported Linux version, but Linux users are welcome to try the Spotify for Linux preview."
[05:58] <DragonDon_> can't blame bad audio for a company that simply hasn't fully developed an app for linux...
[05:58] <krz> dude, its not just spotify. audio in general is a annoying to the ears
[05:58] <rannonga> im no audiophile but i find it ok on realtek hd
[05:58] <OerHeks> krz so your complaint is the lack of an equaliser in spotify?
[05:59] <krz> OerHeks: its not spotify. everything with audio
[05:59] <gordonjcp> krz: why is spotify "useless" in Linux?
[05:59] <gordonjcp> krz: it works just great
[05:59] <krz> if the sound output sucks. whats worth your time listening to music
[05:59] <RaveYoda> Any luck Dragon?
[06:00] <gordonjcp> krz: could you try being a bit less negative and describing the *actual* problem?
[06:00] <OerHeks> krz now stop the ranting, there must be a systemwide equaliser somewhere.
[06:00] <DragonDon_> krz, this, from my understanding, is an industry standard bit of audio software. http://jackaudio.org/  hardly 'poor quality' or the like
[06:00] <gordonjcp> DragonDon_: pretty much
[06:00] <DragonDon_> RaveYoda, I am suspecting that your system is using some sort of cached details.  have you rebooted yet?
[06:01] <krz> gordonjcp: as i said earlier. the audio is simply flat. no depth. unlike on windows or osx
[06:01] <gordonjcp> krz: strange
[06:01] <krz> i dual boot to windows. and audio is good enough. same with my osx laptop
[06:01] <gordonjcp> krz: I use Ubuntu and OSX on my Macbook.  They sound identical
[06:01] <krz> on ubuntu, its terrible
[06:01] <RaveYoda> not yet
[06:01] <RaveYoda> should I?
[06:02] <krz> gordonjcp: you using any special drivers?
[06:02] <DragonDon_> RaveYoda, see you in a minute or two then ;)
[06:02] <gordonjcp> krz: no
[06:02] <RaveYoda> ok
[06:02] <gordonjcp> krz: on the Macbook, just the plain ordinary Intel HDA drivers that come with both OSX and Ubuntu
[06:02] <DragonDon_> time for me to reboot as well...
[06:03] <krz> maybe its my audio card
[06:03] <gordonjcp> krz: on my desktop PC I'm only running Ubuntu so I've nothing else to compare it with, but it has an expensive high-end sound card for recording, a USB sound card for the two-track bus, and its internal Intel soundcard for just noises
[06:03] <Whix> hey hey anyone getting unknown symbol errors with iwlwifi 6050-5
[06:03] <gordonjcp> krz: start from the start
[06:03] <Whix> 11n_disable unrecognized.
[06:03] <gordonjcp> krz: what kind of sound card are you using?
[06:03] <krz> gordonjcp: let me check
[06:04] <gordonjcp> krz: first things first actually; what are you driving with the sound card?
[06:04] <RaveYoda> back
[06:04] <gordonjcp> krz: if you are using Tesco Smartprice 30mm PC speakers in a rattly plastic box, they're going to sound pish no matter what
[06:05] <RaveYoda> And it hasn't fixed it
[06:05] <krz> gordonjcp: sudo aplay -l
[06:06] <gordonjcp> krz: you shouldn't need sudo, and pastebin the output of that
[06:06] <krz> returns: HDA Intel PCH
[06:06] <krz> k
[06:06] <gordonjcp> krz: okay, bog standard, works perfectly
[06:06] <DragonDon> oh look...I have no sound....
[06:07] <RaveYoda> OK...Wow...guess what Dragon?? I nano into my source list and then save it and it fixes it
[06:07] <RaveYoda> I was using my file manager to get to tjhe file and was editiing it  through libreoffice
[06:07] <RaveYoda> yeeshh
[06:08] <gordonjcp> krz: some drivers for Windows have a bunch of additional processing to add EQ and compression to the sound
[06:08] <gordonjcp> krz: the Ubuntu drivers give you the audio unmolested by any of that nonsense
[06:08] <DragonDon> well that was annoying...the output was defaulted to off...heh
[06:08] <krz> gordonjcp: what do you recommend then?
[06:09] <gordonjcp> krz: switch all that crap off in Windows
[06:09] <krz> gordonjcp: i mean, on the ubuntu side
[06:09] <gordonjcp> krz: let your ears get used to hearing your tunes when they're not an overcompressed jangle with all the midrange scooped out
[06:10] <gordonjcp> krz: what kind of speakers are you using?
[06:10] <RaveYoda> so no my system is still not setting up wicd-daemon. EVEN though wicd is running....
[06:10] <dnivra> So any suggestions on how I could recover data from the corrupted NTFS partition(which got corrupted when resizing). I'm running testdisk right now - is that a good idea or is there a better idea?
[06:10] <krz> gordonjcp: now, apple ear plugs. usually, hifi man he-300's
[06:10] <dnivra> testdisk is right now just analyzing the hard disk - I didn't start any recover procedure yet
[06:10] <krz> open-ended head phones. cost around $300+
[06:11] <gordonjcp> not tried those
[06:11] <gordonjcp> apple earbuds sound rubbish
[06:11] <krz> i really dont care what windows or osx is doing. but the sound that comes out is great. i need the same effect on ubuntu
[06:12] <krz> i use an amplifier as well, at times
[06:12] <gordonjcp> krz: I have a couple of pairs of Sennheiser HD205s which I use in the studio and for just listening to stuff at work
[06:12] <hanuman> how can i sudo apt-get commands through scripts
[06:12] <hanuman> how can i execute sudo apt-get commands through scripts
[06:13] <krz> gordonjcp: are you using an equaliser software of some kind on ubuntu?
[06:13] <krz> equalizer*
[06:13] <gordonjcp> krz: absolutely not
[06:13] <krz> hm
[06:13] <krz> let me reboot
[06:13] <gordonjcp> krz: that's one of the reasons I can't use Windows for audio work
[06:13] <krz> brb
[06:13] <gordonjcp> krz: so many drivers for Windows do stuff like that and you can't turn that crap off
[06:14] <geri> hi i have problems to fetch from archive.ubuntu.com
[06:14] <geri> im not sure what the issue is i have internet connection
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> geri: what ubuntu version you have mate?
[06:17] <vikashla> 12.04
[06:17] <vikashla>  Can Anyone help me with Apache server ?
[06:17] <mjayk> vikashla: best just asking the question then keeping an eye on the channel
[06:18] <geri> unbuntu 11.04
[06:18] <geri> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libx/libxrender/libxrender-dev_0.9.6-1ubuntu1_i386.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.176 80]
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> !eol | geri
[06:18] <OerHeks> !11.04
[06:18] <hanuman> how can i execute sudo apt-get commands through scripts
[06:18] <geri> what can i do now?
[06:18] <vikashla> I'm new to this okay my httpd.conf file is blank how can I configure apache
[06:18] <gordonjcp> hanuman: you can't
[06:19] <gordonjcp> !apache | vikashla
[06:19] <hanuman> why
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> geri: you can clean install a new version of ubuntu if you like
[06:19] <gordonjcp> hanuman: because that's a silly and dangerous thing to do
[06:19] <geri> cant i update any more?
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> geri: see topic for our supported versions :p
[06:19] <geri> without installing the new ubuntu
[06:19] <mjayk> hanuman: you can create bash scripts
[06:19] <geri> hmmmm...not good
[06:19] <gordonjcp> geri: 11.04 is gone
[06:19] <geri> any other ideas?
[06:20] <OerHeks> geri see the EOLupgrade factoid from ubottu
[06:20] <gordonjcp> hanuman: you could get your script to prompt for a password, or you could run your script as root
[06:20] <gordonjcp> hanuman: neither of these things are great
[06:20] <geri> how can i automatically upgrade to the newest ubuntu?
[06:20] <hanuman> mjayk: with bash script can i do?
[06:20] <RaveYoda> OK, Anyone out there know how to fix a system the refuses to configure installed packages and also refuses to remove them after failed installs?
[06:20] <geri> without using the install cd?
[06:20] <gordonjcp> hanuman: but they're both better than allowing a normal user to sudo automatically
[06:20] <Kerim> geri: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade or something like that
[06:20] <gordonjcp> geri: is this on a server?
[06:20] <mjayk> hanuman: you just create a script with a list of commands
[06:20] <geri> no a image
[06:21] <mjayk> hanuman: when you run the script it runs the list of commands
[06:21] <geri> called floodlight vm
[06:21] <wilee-nilee> geri, All your answers are in the bots message.
[06:21] <RaveYoda> I do sudo dpkg -P [packageName] and the system just sits there
[06:21] <geri> wilee-nilee: ?
[06:21] <geri> oh
[06:21] <wilee-nilee> geri, You were sent 2 messages by the bot look up.
[06:21] <vikashla>  my httpd.conf file is blank how can I configure apache
[06:22] <hanuman> mjayk: suppose i want run "sudo apt-get install buils-essential" how can i write script
[06:22] <mjayk> hanuman: google "how to write a bash script"
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> vikashla: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might help you on this issue aswell
[06:22] <mjayk> hanuman: will learn the correct syntax
[06:22] <RaveYoda> Anyone?
[06:23] <RaveYoda> Come on guys
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> !patience | RaveYoda
[06:23] <mjayk> RaveYoda: just sits there as in the terminal enables the input of the next command
[06:23] <mjayk> RaveYoda: or just sits there as in a blank line
[06:23] <wilee-nilee> RaveYoda, Did you install synaptic perchance?
[06:24] <RaveYoda> no, it sits there as in it says " removing wicd-daemon..."
[06:24] <RaveYoda> and it goes nowhere
[06:24] <rannonga> could you give the whole thing
[06:24] <RaveYoda> I've been using it
[06:24] <RaveYoda> yes
[06:24] <RaveYoda> but this is through terminal atm
[06:25] <wilee-nilee> !who | RaveYoda
[06:25] <RaveYoda> Ubottu, should I repeat the messages then?
[06:25] <krz> well works a litle better after restart
[06:26] <rannonga> lol
[06:26] <rannonga> Rave, don't talk to the bot
[06:26] <krz> maybe its because i just installed spotify. needed a reboot
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> geri: i installed 13.04 64bit and its rocketfast on my system, tryout a version from topic you will be pleased after..
[06:26] <krz> id have to observe this
[06:26] <wilee-nilee> RaveYoda, There is a broken package option in synaptic.
[06:26] <geri> reocketfast?
[06:27] <RaveYoda> Rannonga, XD I'm such a neb
[06:27] <mjayk> geri: im guessing he means fast:D
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> geri: fast as a rocket :p
[06:27] <geri> the installation or the os?
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> geri: both :p
[06:27] <RaveYoda> vilee-nilee, I have synaptic
[06:27] <geri> ok lets go to the moon :)
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> !yay | geri
[06:28] <mjayk> geri: if we walk on each others feet we'll get there i no time
[06:28] <RaveYoda> vilee-nilee, I have but in this instance it is in terminal atm
[06:28] <krz> the base sounds a bit flat though
[06:28] <wilee-nilee> RaveYoda, And hows that terminal working for you?
[06:28] <Kalel> Greetings.
[06:28] <krz> gordonjcp: bass is flat on yours?
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> Kalel: hi mate what can we help you with?
[06:29] <Kalel> I've a problem to play a hd movie. Already tried: SMplayer, Vlc and the defaulf 'movies'.. No success..
[06:29] <RaveYoda> vilee-nilee, It's jus chilling syaing the same thing. I tried synaptic's broken pkg fixer but it too hangs
[06:29] <robotdevil> is there a way to make grub 2 just sit and wait for an input instead of timing out on an OS?
[06:29] <RaveYoda> vilee-nilee, I mean I tried it many times befor this moment
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> Kalel: can you describe us whats happening?
[06:30] <wilee-van-nilee> RaveYoda, Cool, just thought it might work, that's about it for me.
[06:30] <robotdevil> besides making it 99 seconds or something
[06:30] <RaveYoda> vilee-nilee, thanks for the imput mate. =]
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> robotdevil: you mean like, leaving the user the boot choice forever?
[06:31] <robotdevil> lotuspsychje: yes
[06:31] <Kalel> Apparently some decoding problem. I have a good hardware: AMD APU 3500 RADEON 6620G 1TG 6GB.. I can see it working hardly. The movie stop and, actually, nothing happened.
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> robotdevil: also boot grub every boot by default?
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> robotdevil: or just want the choice after pressing shift at boot?
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> Kalel: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[06:33] <robotdevil> no that would be too confusing for them lotuspsychje
[06:33] <Kalel> robotdevil: grubcustomizer is a friendly software to do that and others thungs..
[06:33] <Kalel> things*
[06:33] <geri> what does apt-get purge network-manager ?
[06:33] <RaveYoda> Har har robodevil. Funny
[06:33] <robotdevil> Kalel: seen that but im not sure it can stop the bootloader
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> geri: will uninstall nm, i wouldnt do it :p
[06:34] <RaveYoda> geri, it removes the network manager
[06:34] <geri> how can i get it back? :)
[06:34] <Kalel> lotuspsychje: Yes. Also all other hd, bluray, libs..
[06:34] <geri> the network manager
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> Kalel: your grafix driver installed correctly?
[06:34] <Kalel> robotdevil: You can disable it.
[06:34] <RaveYoda> geri, sudo apt-get install network-manager
[06:34] <gordonjcp> krz: my system is maximally flat
[06:35] <gordonjcp> krz: it has thunderous bass, if that's how I choose to mix
[06:35] <geri> RaveYoda: i dont have eth0 for some reason now :(
[06:35] <RaveYoda> ??
[06:35] <Kalel> lotuspsychje: Yes. I compiled it. Everything right.
[06:35] <RaveYoda> Geri, you sure?
[06:35] <RaveYoda> Geri, also, is that an error poping up?
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> geri: please stop asking support for your 11.04
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> geri: re-ask your issues after installing a new version
[06:36] <RaveYoda> lotuspsyche, hush
[06:36] <RaveYoda> lotuspsyche, if I can help i'll try
[06:36] <Kalel> lotuspsychje: I'm trying to watch Avengers, again, in HD in my laptop.. Seems impossible for some reason.
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> RaveYoda: your not supposed to help other ons eol
[06:36] <RaveYoda> Kalel, is it blueray?
[06:37] <ponuts> I want to create an home server enviroment... e-mail, web, update-server, clients security, is ubuntu open with lancscape.. I mean we are 4-5 person in the faimly
[06:37] <robotdevil> Kalel: disable boot loader entirely,
[06:37] <mjayk> lotuspsychje: to be fair its not harming anybody this is not an official ubuntu support line seams fine to me
[06:37] <RaveYoda> lotuspsyche, who/what says that?
[06:37] <robotdevil> Kalel: how to pick other os then?
[06:37] <Kalel> RaveYoda: Its a file;
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> !eol | RaveYoda
[06:37] <Kalel> robotdevil: Pressing 'shift' on startup..
[06:38] <mjayk> lotuspsychje: dont see how that is relivant
[06:38] <mjayk> we have gathered it is EOL :)
[06:38] <RaveYoda> lotuspsyche, i am aware of eol
[06:38] <RaveYoda> lotuspsyche, he still can get the prog back
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> mjayk: there's a reason why his system doesnt work anymore..
[06:38] <mjayk> lotuspsychje: yes there is and i doubit it is  because hes running eol software
[06:38] <RaveYoda> Kalel, a bleray file?
[06:38] <mjayk> lotuspsychje: i dont see how it harms you if someone tries to help him
[06:39] <Kalel> RaveYoda: Yes.
[06:39] <wilee-nilee> mjayk, It is the repos that were available are not now.
[06:39] <Kalel> *bluray file..
[06:39] <RaveYoda> Kalel, then you'll need the bleray prog files associated with it
[06:39] <mjayk> wilee-nilee: im sure it can be fixed
[06:39] <RaveYoda> Kalel, do you have synaptic?
[06:40] <RaveYoda> Kalel, do you have as well VLC?
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> mjayk: try the #ubuntu-offtopic to ask if you can help 11.04 issues..
[06:40] <mjayk> lotuspsychje: i dont need help
[06:40] <wilee-nilee> mjayk, It is channel policy to not support eols, period, no matter what your opinion is.
[06:40] <Kalel> RaveYoda: No. I use apt.
[06:40] <mjayk> wilee-nilee: how silly
[06:40] <RaveYoda> Kalel, one moment pls
[06:41] <wilee-nilee> mjayk, We will help them get to a upgrade to a os supported that has been done exstensivly, we tell them how to install a supported OS.
[06:41] <RaveYoda> Kalel, and what of VLC?
[06:42] <RaveYoda> geri, there are no repos listeed you said?
[06:42] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/140080/playing-blu-ray-using-vlc
[06:42] <geri> RaveYoda: i get the new ubuntu
[06:42] <geri> but takes some time to install it
[06:43] <Kalel> RaveYoda: I already tested 3 different players: vlc, smplayer and the default 'movies'.. The worst of all was the vlc. Frozen totally..
[06:43] <RaveYoda> geri, ok dude. Good luck =]
[06:43] <geri> haha thx
[06:44] <RaveYoda> kalel, umm, did you run the program from terminal and open the blearay file?
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> Kalel: any errors on syslog? or how about starting vlc from terminal
[06:44] <RaveYoda> kalel, You can see realtime errors that way
[06:44] <mrgate_> ughh T.T
[06:44] <mrgate_> my apache server does not want to run right
[06:44] <mrgate_> http://pastebin.com/S5FeVd7p
[06:45] <RaveYoda> kalel, do you have libblueray1 installed?
[06:45] <RaveYoda> kalel, do you have libbluray1 installed?
[06:45] <Kalel> RaveYoda: Yes. i'm running from terminal... Lets see.
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> Kalel: how about youtube 1080p run smooth?
[06:45] <RaveYoda> kalel, sorry ,isspelled it fst time
[06:45] <Kalel> Youtube? Amazing.
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> Kalel: so its only movieplayers then>?
[06:46] <Kalel> probably..
[06:47] <Kalel> Just a moment, please.
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> Kalel: can you tell us what codecs the movie have you trying to play
[06:47] <RaveYoda> kalel, try sudo apt-get install libbluray1
[06:48] <RaveYoda> kalel, if it's installed then it'll say so. If not, I solved your prob
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> !info libbluray1
[06:49] <RaveYoda> kalel, oh.... well ubottu ruined my joy
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> mrgate_: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might help you with your issue?
[06:50] <RaveYoda> kalel, but it may be tied to the blueray codecs neded
[06:51] <RaveYoda> kalel, i can look it up for you?
[06:52] <showar21> I seem to be having trouble with the 3d-windows plugin on compiz.
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> showar21: can you tell us ubuntu version and window manager?
[06:54] <showar21> That is to say, attempted use of it causes the cube to glitch.
[06:54] <showar21> Raring, XFCE.
[06:54] <showar21> But the glitch occurred on Unity and KDE as well, and after a clean install of Ubuntu.
[06:54] <showar21> So I suspect it's a driver problem.
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> showar21: did you try reboot after enabling the 3d windows
[06:55] <showar21> Yes.
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> showar21: you have compiz config installed?
[06:55] <showar21> Yep.
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> showar21: what grafix card and driver loaded?
[06:56] <showar21> How would I find this out? >__>
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> showar21: additional drivers section
[06:56] <devslash> ive got a problem in ubuntu where my trackpad mouse stops working. if i reboot it'll fix it. is there a way to manually get it to work again ?
[06:57] <showar21> The section is completely empty.
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> showar21: maybe this can help? http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-set-up-compiz-in-xubuntu-1210-or.html
[06:59] <RaveYoda> showar21, what kind of computer do you have?
[06:59] <RaveYoda> showar21, laptop or desktop?
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> showar21: lshw -C video
[06:59] <showar21> Laptop.
[07:00] <lorddelta> http://ubuntu-discourse.org/ <-- is down
[07:00] <lorddelta> Just sayin'
[07:00] <RaveYoda> showar21, ahh, ok. Lotus has the better idea between  the two of us. Nvm
[07:00] <showar21> Mobility Radeon HD 4225/4250
[07:01] <showar21> configuration: driver=radeon latency=0
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> showar21: driver= radeon?
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> ok
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> showar21: sounds like driver is installed properly
[07:02] <RaveYoda> lotuspsych, he said the additional drivers section is empty
[07:03] <RaveYoda> lotuspsych, shouldn't he try for the drivers from amd/ati?
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> RaveYoda: that doesnt tell me what driver is loaded...
[07:03] <RaveYoda> lotuspsych, likely the mesa drivers
[07:03] <RaveYoda> lotuspsych, i think it's mesa
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> RaveYoda: no reason to be sarcastic, stay proffessional and help him
[07:04] <rkhshm> is there an API or toolkit that can be used to get file system change events ?
[07:04] <Kalel> My connection crashed.. Have a look: http://pastebin.com/bBPrJcZa
[07:04] <RaveYoda> lotuspsych, sorry, there was no sarcasem in my reply. I was just saying my thoughts out loud
[07:05] <showar21> Let me try a reinstall one more time. I'll be back in a minute.
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> rkhshm: there's awhole collection of dev and api tools in software centre that might be usefull
[07:05] <rkhshm> lotuspsychje: can you please point me to any
[07:06] <Taggg> hey guys i'm trying to familiarize myself with launchpad, this bug is stated to be an upstream bug, how do i find the upstream bug report? https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint/+bug/574632
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> rkhshm: sorry mate im not dev specialist, but im sure if you re-ask once in a while someone might help you
[07:06] <rkhshm> lotuspsychje: i'm not able to find any for ubuntu
[07:07] <Kalel> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/bBPrJcZa
[07:07] <Kalel> RaveYoda: http://pastebin.com/bBPrJcZa
[07:07] <auronandace> !mint | Taggg
[07:07] <showar21> Didn't work.
[07:07] <Taggg> auronandace: my question is actually about launchpad :)
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> rkhshm: maybe the dev team can point you out to more specific tools?
[07:08] <Taggg> !launchpad
[07:08] <RaveYoda> Kalel, ok, mmmmmmmm
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> rkhshm: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/platform/api/
[07:10] <RaveYoda> Kalel, would you try this for me?
[07:10] <RaveYoda> Kalel, sudo apt-get install vlc libaacs0 libbluray-bdj libbluray1
[07:10] <auronandace> Taggg: see the table at the top of the bug report page?
[07:11] <RaveYoda> Kalel, and tell me the outcome if any on what terminal is saying?
[07:11] <Taggg> auronandace: yes, i see it
[07:12] <Taggg> auronandace: what about it?
[07:12] <auronandace> Taggg: mint isn't the only thing listed in that table...
[07:13] <Taggg> auronandace: okay, so back to my question, how do i find the upstream bug report?
[07:13] <showar21> Installing fglrx -- hoping this will help.
[07:13] <RaveYoda> showar21, it should fix it
[07:14] <auronandace> Taggg: click on fix released for the ubiquity entry
[07:14] <showar21> I hope so. I assume a reboot is in order
[07:14] <RaveYoda> showar21, did you get latest drivers or from repoo?
[07:14] <Taggg> auronandace: that opens a flyout to change the status
[07:15] <showar21> I just did sudo apt-get install fglrx >_>
[07:15] <RaveYoda> showar21, uhhhhh...ok....
[07:15] <RaveYoda> showar21, =p
[07:15] <showar21> Hope this works.
[07:16] <Taggg> auronandace: am i missing something?
[07:16] <RaveYoda> showar21,good luck
[07:17] <auronandace> Taggg: sorry, i thought it would take you to the upstream bug
[07:17] <RaveYoda> showar21,if it doesn't we can go through amd's site and get their drivers
[07:20] <auronandace> Taggg: the bug is fixed anyway
[07:21] <showar21> Well, actually, that broke it.
[07:21] <Taggg> auronandace: the point is to learn how launchpad works :)
[07:21] <Taggg> auronandace: and i don't think i know yet
[07:21] <auronandace> Taggg: perhaps pick another example
[07:21] <showar21> My display now sucks more, compiz can't run without error...
[07:22] <Taggg> auronandace: can you offer one with a link to an upstream bug report?
[07:22] <bloody-death> ola necesito ayuda cn mi ubuntu
[07:22] <auronandace> Taggg: no, i've hardly visited launchpad
[07:23] <RaveYoda> So i'm going to repost my earlyer question. I am "technically" using Mint as my OS. But recently I've done remodling my end and virtually removed all core Mint packages. I'm now using ubuntu repos and have installed Openbox and other lighter programs not dependent on major dependiencies. All was working great up till about a week ago. Now, whenever  install packages they don't get configured and freez on the config section of the inst
[07:23] <RaveYoda> all. When I try to remove the broken packages it hangs on removal too. I've tried dpkg --config -a but it doesn't work. I used synaptic to "fix broken pkgs" and that stalls too. What is the problem most likely?
[07:23] <Taggg> auronandace: lol, okay
[07:24] <ponuts> I think there is much to win by Ubunut or any Linux env. to do a simple all cover home installation.. not just one computer 1 server 4-5 client 5-6mobile dev. and connected togheter into a PRIVATE env.
[07:24] <auronandace> RaveYoda: we can't support that setup
[07:25] <RaveYoda> Auronandance, how come? at it's core it's all ubu repo pkgs and configs?
[07:25] <auronandace> RaveYoda: you began with mint and tried to make it like ubuntu, there are an awful lot of changes
[07:26] <auronandace> RaveYoda: if you want ubuntu then install ubuntu
[07:26] <auronandace> RaveYoda: just like we can't support someone attempting to make debian into ubuntu
[07:27] <RaveYoda> Mmmm, i've removed nearly all core pkgs auronandace. It really isn't Mint as there are no mint pkgs. Also, may I remind you that Mint is based off of Ubvu
[07:27] <doc|home> I'm using a shimian achieva as a second screen and getting http://www.skynet.ie/~doc/example.jpg. My xorg.conf is http://pastebin.com/tWzJNXV1 and logs are http://pastebin.com/iEZuDwwr Logs should give useful info, but I've no idea how to fix it. Any ideas?
[07:27] <auronandace> !mint | RaveYoda
[07:28] <killer> RaveYoda: people here don't like mint, please go to irc.spotchat.org #linuxmint-help
[07:29] <Ben64> its not about "liking" mint, its not supported here because its not ubuntu
[07:30] <OerHeks> Mint has its own issues.
[07:30] <RaveYoda> jhgjjhhgjhghjkkuhgfghhj
[07:30] <Guest36876> i had ubuntu+ debian on my pc.but after i did an iozone test and restarted it it didn't come up. i also changed permission with chmod. but didn't effect. i don;t have any user interface :( when i try to rm syslog in /var/log   it say read only file and cannot be deleted
[07:30] <Guest36876> any idea?
[07:30] <RaveYoda> OK OK,
[07:30] <otak> RaveYoda: you might like arch linux, they have a really good wiki.  Or build up debian from minimum install.  Package install can fail because of lack of disk space
[07:30] <showar21> So installing fglrx has screwed me over royally.
[07:31] <RaveYoda> nvm
[07:31] <auronandace> showar21: we can only support drivers installed from the ubuntu repos here
[07:31] <Ben64> Guest36876: explain more of what you did and what you're trying to do, is it ubuntu or debian? why do you want to remove syslog?
[07:31] <showar21> Is that not from the ubuntu repos?
[07:31] <auronandace> showar21: the wiki can give you instructions for installing from the site but that has its own risks
[07:31] <killer> 12:59 < Ben64> its not about "liking" mint, its not supported here because its
[07:31] <killer>                not ubuntu
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[07:31] <killer> oops
[07:31] <FloodBot1> killer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:32] <rannonga> dont flood lol
[07:32] <Guest36876> Ben64: when i use iozone it make my log ful. so it won't comeup. now i decided to delete the log so maybe the problem fixes
[07:33] <Ben64> Guest36876: how big is the log file? and how much free space is on the partition?
[07:34] <Guest36876> Ben64: hoe delete a readonly filesystem ?
[07:34] <RaveYoda> otak, ok, thx for the help. I have pleanty of disk space. and even then it shouldn't interfere with removing a pkg.
[07:35] <Ben64> Guest36876: could you answer the questions first
[07:36] <Guest36876> Ben64: i am not professional in commanding. i can't understand
[07:36] <RaveYoda> Welp, i'm off
[07:36] <RaveYoda> ciao guys
[07:37] <Ben64> Guest36876: "ls -l /var/log/syslog" and "df -h" pastebin the output of both of those
[07:41] <Guest36876> Ben64: i can't copy-past it as i said i have no graphics but ls -l /var/log/syslog          :      rw-r-r- 1 root root 1059119422 jun 24....
[07:41] <Guest36876> in df -h  i had sda7 and dome but non were full
[07:42] <auronandace> !pastebin | Guest36876
[07:42] <Loknar> Wow...
[07:43] <Guest36876> auronandace:     ?!!!!!!!haha how useful i didn't know.....................hey idiot if i could use it i would paste it .
[07:44] <Ben64> well good luck figuring out your problem, i don't help people with attitudes
[07:44] <auronandace> !pastebinit | Guest36876
[07:45] <auronandace> Guest36876: if you are unsure you only need to ask
[07:45] <Guest36876> auronandace:  no nternet access man ....i am really in trouble
[07:45] <DCE25ESK> !pastebinit | testing
[07:45] <Loknar> hey I was looking up an issue with my laptop's onboard realtek "HDA Intel" audio not working correctly in ubuntu, on askubuntu, on google, etc... I found so many conflicting answers, but most seemed to point at PulseAudio and well the sound still only came out of the speakers even if I used alsamixer etc
[07:46] <doc|home> anyone?
[07:46] <auronandace> Guest36876: then you can send the output to a file and copy the file to where you have internet access to copy to a pastebin
[07:47] <Loknar> managed to enable some internal microphone I never knew I had and caused a huge feedback loop, that was fun while booting up lol
[07:47] <auronandace> Guest36876: whateveryourcommandis | tee filetoputitin.txt
[07:47] <Guest36876> auronandace: sorry to say idiot. iam just really angry and desperate . iam not very proffesional and fast. the best way was describing it
[07:47] <Guest36876> auronandace: :)
[07:48] <Kerim> killer: Why do people here not like mint? I do use Ubuntu but I also like Mint
[07:48] <auronandace> Kerim: it simply isn't supported here, you can like whatever you want
[07:49] <Ben64> Kerim: mint is offtopic here
[07:49] <Kerim> auronandace: Ben64 : yeah I get that but killer said in addition to that that people don't like Mint here, kind of harsh imho lol
[07:50] <auronandace> Kerim: that is his opinion, we simply do ubuntu support here
[07:50] <kiwi_2264> http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/users/2945/28/avatar92.jpg?1368121005
[07:50] <kiwi_2264> sorry.. wrong channel >.<
[07:51] <Loknar> hey, is ubuntu forums really down for maintenance?
[07:51] <Guest36876> auronandace:  don't you have any idea about my problem?
[07:51] <nathanbz> how do you make ssh-add perminate ?
[07:52] <auronandace> Guest36876: we gave you the instructions on how to pastebin, i was waiting for your output
[07:52] <killer> Kerim: I was just kidding around
[07:52] <Loknar> is my text going through?
[07:52] <auronandace> Loknar: yes, people can see you
[07:52] <Loknar> ok ty
[07:53] <killer> Was kind of frustrated that ubuntu doesn't support my video chip
[07:53] <Loknar> it kinda does
[07:53] <Loknar> just whoever maintains the automated installer hasn't got to your driver yet
[07:55] <lorddelta> Hey guys, anyone got any recommendations for some good PDF editing software? Free trials are ok, so long as they don't come 'hobbled' in a serious manner.
[07:55] <DaemonicApathy> I just turn my PDFs into Libre docs.
[07:55] <joshu_> hi for ubuntu mini it there's a note that says "While the mini ISO is handy, it isn't useful for installing on UEFI-based systems that you want to run in UEFI mode. The mini lacks the proper files for booting the computer in UEFI mode. Thus, the computer will boot in BIOS compatibility mode, and the installation will be in BIOS mode. "
[07:56] <lorddelta> DaemonicApathy; how well does that work with e.g. forms?
[07:56] <joshu_> can someone please explain what it means if the install is done in BIOS mode rather than UEFI? Are there any performance or other negatives effects?
[07:56] <DaemonicApathy> If you put text on a JPG, pretty well.
[07:57] <killer> Loknar: gma 3600 is n't supported as I m told by ##linux
[07:57] <Loknar> hmm...
[07:57] <Loknar> so there's just no linux driver available for it period?
[07:58] <DaemonicApathy> Loknar: For what now?
[07:58] <mns2> I googled around and couldn't fine a way to put chromium tabs in the ubuntu panel.
[07:58] <OerHeks> Loknar, nouveau works, but not 3d.
[07:58] <Ben64> uh, the intel 3600 has been supported since 3.5
[07:58] <Loknar> killer's issue
[07:59] <mns2> Does anyone know how?
[07:59] <auronandace> OerHeks: nouveau is for nvidia cards
[07:59] <mns2> or even to make the ubuntu panel variable length and not take up the top part of the screen?
[08:01] <lorddelta> DaemonicApathy; doesn't look like it will work so well, missing Javascript support apparently.
[08:01] <klumpy> howdy
[08:01] <DaemonicApathy> Sorry, lorddelta, guess we have different needs. :-)
[08:01] <Loknar> i was only having an issue with sound, everything else worked "out of the box"
[08:01] <klumpy> I been having a hell of a hard time getting ubuntu to run on my windows 8 desktop
[08:02] <lorddelta> DaemonicApathy; I was just looking to fill out a form, but it doesn't look like it'll work. Thanks for the tip anyways.
[08:02] <Loknar> (headphone jack/speaker switching wasn't happening when headphones plugged in)
[08:02] <DaemonicApathy> lorddelta: Last resort - save as an image, use gimp.
[08:02] <killer> Ben64: Then , Why ubuntu is n't able to play videos even in 3.8
[08:02] <Loknar> i'm gonna reinstall because I got it all tangled up
[08:02] <killer> even tried 3..10
[08:03] <klumpy> any issues with not finding the right medium or the disc image wasn't found when I did the installer?
[08:03] <Squirmy> Hello guys, I'm having a problem where I can't get the normal user to login as it brings the screen back to where it was, but other accounts log in fine. I haven't been able to find anyone with the same error as mine so far. I was wondering if you guys could help me
[08:03] <mns2> wooo
[08:03] <DaemonicApathy> Squirmy: Did you change any system files recently?
[08:04] <Ben64> killer: don't know, you'd have to provide a lot more details
[08:04] <Squirmy> nope, no changes to file system so far. Hold up, I think I found an article relating to what happened to me
[08:05] <Ben64> Squirmy: paste the output of ----       ls -l ~/.Xauthority
[08:05] <Squirmy> I'm on windows at the moment, but I'll be back here in a second
[08:06] <Squirmy> brb
[08:06] <Loknar> actually, idea... would using the 32-bit ubuntu 12.04 on a 64-bit machine make a difference?
[08:07] <killer> Ben64: as I know from the arch wiki and ##linux , it(linux) can't fully utilize the chip  power
[08:08] <Ben64> killer: nope, its worked for over a year
[08:08] <auronandace> Loknar: a difference to what?
[08:09] <Loknar> yeah it doesn't make sense lol
[08:09] <Loknar> i was installing the 32-bit on this 64-bit (windows 8) laptop
[08:10] <auronandace> Loknar: and...
[08:10] <Loknar> because I had it burned to a dvd already
[08:10] <Loknar> everything worked fine except audio
[08:11] <Loknar> which technically "worked" but it couldn't detect the difference between my headphone jack and speakers for output
[08:11] <Loknar> microphone input worked, speaker output worked, but nothing came out through the headphone jack when plugged in
[08:11] <auronandace> Loknar: if you got 64bit hardware then there is very little reason not to use 64bit ubuntu
[08:12] <Loknar> yeah, that will be ready in 1 hour
[08:12] <pranav> how can we find out the wifi standard we are using from linux ?
[08:13] <krz> how do you search emails from a specific contact in thunderbird?
[08:13] <jpds> pranav: "iwconfig".
[08:13] <Loknar> i'll have to troubleshoot this myself probably, it's a weird problem
[08:13] <h22> Guys, I have trouble with libgl1-mesa-dev  and is apparently the same as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1178517
[08:13] <Loknar> just hoped somebody would've had the same issue before
[08:14] <dr_willis> Loknar:  actually its a common problem
[08:14] <Loknar> :O
[08:14] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com may have dozens of suggestions
[08:14] <dyu> what's the package name for the redis client?
[08:14] <thedoctar> how did ubuntuforums get hacked?
[08:15] <Loknar> alright thanks ...
[08:15] <h22> dyu: What do you mean by redis client?
[08:15] <dyu> redis-cli
[08:15] <mns2> does anyone actually use the trash button on the dock?
[08:15] <mns2> who doesn't just press delete?
[08:15] <Loknar> noobs don't
[08:16] <dyu> h22: i only get redis-server
[08:16] <mns2> same for the launcher. you can literally just press tab
[08:16] <mns2> i don't get it
[08:16] <h22> h22: I installed the tar.gz.. It had redis-cli
[08:16] <Loknar> it probably stands for "redistributable client"
[08:17] <h22> dyu http://download.redis.io/redis-stable.tar.gz
[08:17] <Loknar> i just wish there was a gnome 3 flavor of ubuntu
[08:17] <pranav> jpds: thanks
[08:17] <auronandace> !checkinstall | h22
[08:17] <Squirmy> alrighty
[08:17] <Squirmy> I am back
[08:17] <auronandace> Squirmy: seriously, you shouldn't be on irc as root
[08:18] <Squirmy> lol
[08:18] <Squirmy> I know, but it's the only way i could be on here
[08:18] <Squirmy> my other user account is fucked
[08:18] <auronandace> Squirmy: how?
[08:18] <Squirmy> and I don't want to add another user for the time being
[08:18] <Squirmy> lazyness for the most part
[08:19] <h22> I have this problem... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1178517 and my card is not even nvidia.. anybody?
[08:20] <Slart> Loknar: just install gnome-shell on top of regular ubuntu.. that's what I do
[08:21] <Loknar> yeah but it doesn't integrate very well
[08:21] <salih-emin> that is true
[08:21] <Squirmy> auronandace: my other user account is messed up because I keep getting looped back to the login screen if I log in with my normal user account, and another new bug that happens is that it takes some time for the GUI to show up on startup
[08:21] <salih-emin> Gnome Shell is built for every distro
[08:21] <Slart> Loknar: huh? in what way? I haven't noticed anything wrong so far
[08:21] <salih-emin> instead Unity is built for Ubuntu
[08:21] <Loknar> like, system tray doesn't show icons of programs that are minimized to tray
[08:22] <smyke> i need to give permission to one partition only, help me
[08:22] <Loknar> you need to install gnome-tweak to change the theme
[08:22] <Loknar> etc etc
[08:22] <Slart> Loknar: I think that is by design.. you really want something other than gnome, I think
[08:22] <llutz> Squirmy: what is the output of "ls -l ~USERNAME/.Xauthority"
[08:22] <SuperTyp> hello everybody
[08:23] <SuperTyp> I git cloned something without to specify a folder
[08:23] <SuperTyp> with terminal
[08:23] <SuperTyp> it cloned it into "core"
[08:23] <Loknar> gnome 3 is sweet tho
[08:23] <smyke> i need to give permission to one drive only, help me
[08:23] <SuperTyp> where can I find that folder?
[08:23] <Squirmy> ls: cannot access ~USERNAME/.Xauthority: No such file or directory
[08:23] <Squirmy> llutz - ^ - It's gonna be a long night...
[08:23] <llutz> Squirmy: replace USERNAME with your users name ...
[08:23] <joshu_> cross posted my uefi/ bios question on #lubuntu
[08:23] <Squirmy> ah
[08:23] <smyke> Access and permissions, help me
[08:24] <ikonia> smyke: stop saying random words, and ask a formed clear question
[08:24] <Squirmy> llutz - -rw------- 1 root root 0 2013-07-23 03:15 /root/.Xauthority
[08:24] <smyke> i need to give permissions to only one drive to a user
[08:24] <ikonia> smyke: to your current question "access and permissions" my answer is "make it work, fix it" - so you need to ask a better question
[08:24] <llutz> Squirmy: not root, your user
[08:25] <Squirmy> I cd'd into my user's home folder
[08:25] <smyke> do u got my question?
[08:25] <Squirmy> hold up a second
[08:25] <llutz> Squirmy: the username of the account not working
[08:25] <ikonia> smyke: you'd like to give permissons of a "drive" to just one user ?
[08:25] <smyke> yes
[08:25] <Squirmy> llutz - "-rw------- 1 squirmybeast squirmybeast 0 2013-07-23 03:10 /home/squirmybeast/.Xauthority
[08:25] <Squirmy> "
[08:25] <smyke> to only one drive
[08:25] <ikonia> smyke: which "drive" ?
[08:25] <smyke> new volume
[08:25] <ikonia> smyke: what new volume ?
[08:25] <ikonia> smyke: what mount point ?
[08:26] <llutz> Squirmy: "ls -ld /tmp"
[08:26] <smyke> my drive name appears as new volume
[08:26] <vlad76> hey guys. Could you please help me with this error? http://pastebin.com/9JgnJ2vi
[08:26] <ikonia> smyke: ok, change the owner of that new volume to the username you want to access it
[08:26] <Squirmy> llutz: "drwxrwxrwt 11 root root 12288 2013-07-23 03:25 /tmp"
[08:26] <vlad76> there is no free space on boot,  I guess. But how do I clear some space ftom /boot?
[08:27] <resting> i screwed up my sudoers file…can i get into the terminal with the server cd instead of a live cd?
[08:27] <Ben64> vlad76: is /boot a separate partition?
[08:27] <ikonia> vlad76: you need to try to remove some package old kernel packages)
[08:27] <smyke> ikonia i just need ask one more question
[08:27] <vlad76> Ben64: yes
[08:27] <jacta> What is the name of the letter icon app that holds pidgin and thunderbird and such
[08:27] <ikonia> failing that you'll have to manually remove some files and clean up later
[08:27] <vlad76> ikonia: how do I do that?
[08:27] <ikonia> vlad76: open the package manager, search for kernel packages, remove old ones
[08:28] <vlad76> ikonia: how to open package manager? (this is VPS, ubuntu 12.04)
[08:29] <ikonia> vlad76: I suggest reading https://help.ubuntu.com and read the server section about the basics of using ubuntu server
[08:29] <vlad76> on it. thx!
[08:30] <Arun> i need to give permission to access a drive
[08:31] <Ben64> !details | Arun
[08:31] <Arun> i have a problem with giving permission to access my discs
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> jacta: the Unity launcher holds runnig apps down the left side
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> Arun: are they NTFS based?
[08:32] <Arun> yes
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> Arun: then it needs setting at mount time
[08:32] <Ben64> Arun: stop trying to make people play guessing games with you and give FULL details
[08:32] <Arun> what details you want?
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> Arun: is it a USB based drive?
[08:33] <Arun> no, it is a partition
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> Arun: is it healthy (when did you last chkdsk it)?
[08:33] <vlad76> what is the command to list all installed packages / software on ubuntu?
[08:33] <Arun> i havent
[08:33] <Arun> i think it is healthy, i can able to access it
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> Arun: I suggest you do, users should be able to access the data wthout issue
[08:33] <llutz> vlad76: dpkg -l
[08:34] <Arun> in windows, there is c: d: here just names of drives
[08:35] <Arun> i dont get your point ActionParsnip
[08:35] <Arun> i want to give permission to access one of my partion
[08:36] <Arun> I new to this,
[08:36] <Arun> i am just trying xubuntu
[08:36] <Arun> please someone help me
[08:37] <Arun> i need to give permission to access my drive
[08:37] <OerHeks> Arun, install ntfs-3g and you have access to the ntfs partitions.
[08:37] <Arun> what it will do?
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> Arun: you can mount them using nautilus, they will present in the left hand panel
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> Arun: you will not be able to run applications installed on them, but casual user data will be fine
[08:39] <Arun> i need to install nautilus and i can give permissions,. right?
[08:40] <Arun> through nautilus can i give permissions?
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> Arun: the default file browser in Xubuntu will be able to access it
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> vlad76:  dpkg -l | grep '^ii' | awk {'print $2'}
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> Arun: the permissions are set at mount time, nautilus will mount them with default access so users can access the data
[08:43] <syed_> so...
[08:43] <bun24331> so, is there no way to reset my ubuntu forum password at this time?
[08:44] <bun24331> i saw the "forums have been hacked" notice, and all the technews sites are recommending changing passwords, but there's no way to do that
[08:45] <bun24331> nor to get my account disabled, it seems
[08:45] <Loknar> i doubt they gained access to the database
[08:45] <bun24331> wanna bet?
[08:45] <Steinar1> bun24331: What does it matter if the hackers already have their own local copy of the database?
[08:45] <bun24331> http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/07/hack-exposes-e-mail-addresses-password-data-for-2-million-ubuntu-forum-users/
[08:45] <emx> how do i restart my wifi nic?
[08:46] <Loknar> sigh
[08:46] <Loknar> good thing I never registered
[08:46] <Loknar> ;D
[08:46] <bun24331> indeed!
[08:46] <bun24331> says that the launchpad and ubuntuone services are not affected, but still
[08:46] <Steinar1> change your passwords on other sites if you have used same passwords
[08:46] <bun24331> that's obvious, and fortunately, i never reuse passwords
[08:46] <Loknar> ^
[08:46] <Loknar> then all they've managed to obtain is a random forum user account
[08:47] <compdoc> Im not sure Im registered on the forums. Cant remember posting anything there
[08:47] <syed_> yeah it hardly matters
[08:47] <bun24331> still, i was hoping to get in there and reset passwords, change email addresses associated with the account, etc
[08:47] <Loknar> yeah but
[08:47] <bun24331> read the article...they have your username, password, and email
[08:47] <Loknar> they would just get your new changed info
[08:47] <bun24331> email is definitely an attack vector
[08:48] <syed_> meh
[08:48] <bun24331> ah, ubuntu big-time muckety-much sez they'll notify by email all users affected
[08:48] <bun24331> http://blog.canonical.com/2013/07/21/notice-of-security-breach-on-ubuntu-forums-site/
[08:48] <bun24331> sweet, 2+ million emails to send out
[08:49] <dr_willis> make me wonder how they stored the passwords if the  can be  read back.. arent those things normally like a one way  thing
[08:49] <dnivra> Hello. I'm trying to resize a extended partition(/dev/sda3) using the live CD. There is approx 390 GiB of free space immediately succeeding the extended partition but when I select resize, allocate the entire 390 GiB for resize and hit OK, I get an error "Could not set geometry for partition ‘/dev/sda3’ while trying to resize/move it." Could someone tell me where I'm going wrong?
[08:49] <syed_> they should have been hashed
[08:49] <bun24331> syed_ they were
[08:49] <bun24331> but weakly, with only md5, rather than something like bcrypt
[08:49] <TheBrayn> were the passwords salted and did they use a proper hashing algorithm?
[08:49] <somsip> dr_willis: syed_ they were hashed using the vbulletin defaults (md5(md5($pass . $salt))
[08:49] <Braden`> Hello
[08:49] <bun24331> only md5, which is a decade or more outta date
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> emxyou can restart the networking pocess
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> bun24331: I had an email
[08:50] <syed_> that's weak
[08:50] <bun24331> again, read the ars technica article...it describes what happened, and what ubuntu should have been doing on their forum software install
[08:50] <Braden`> http://pastebin.com/MSrq6K0k <-- The 'df' and the 'du' do not match up and it is telling me out of disk space.  What might be causing that?  Ubuntu 10.04.4
[08:50] <somsip> FWIW and OT http://is.gd/zRUTTp
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> syed_: they were hashed, that's the data that was collected
[08:51] <dr_willis> i cant even rember my forum password. ;))
[08:51] <bun24331> ActionParsnip: hmm, i haven't gotten one yet. i should look into this...i don't even remember what email i used; i registered 8 or 9 years ago
[08:51] <Loknar> most websites use MD5 hashes anyway
[08:51] <somsip> dr_willis: maybe you should email Sputn1k_ ;)
[08:51] <llutz> dr_willis: ask the hackers, the'll send it to you :)
[08:52] <syed_> true, a lot of people still use md5, it needs to go way
[08:52] <dr_willis> i cant even rember what email address i used. ;)
[08:52] <Braden`> I have ureadahead disabled
[08:52] <Braden`> (I don't know if that matters)
[08:52] <nevyn> dnivra: sda3 isn't an extended partition
[08:52] <nevyn> dnivra: it's a primary
[08:53] <nevyn> well it could be extended. I guess
[08:53] <nevyn> it's not a logical
[08:53] <Braden`> Anyone?
[08:53] <nevyn> why are people still using partitions.
[08:53] <rannonga> why not cheap hdds?
[08:54] <dnivra> nevyn: Yeah it's extended, not logical. Ubuntu root and swap are in sda3.
[08:55] <Slart> Braden`: not sure but if the difference is smallish it might be losses from block sizes and such
[08:55] <nevyn> so resizing the extended should be doable
[08:55] <Braden`> 140 gigs lost?
[08:55] <nevyn> Slart: it's way bigger than that
[08:56] <nevyn> Braden`: large deleted file something's holding onto (or several somethings?
[08:56] <nevyn> Braden`: .files in root?
[08:56] <Braden`> That is probably the case.  How do I get it to release it?
[08:56] <Braden`> Let me check
[08:56] <dnivra> I don't think this matters but I thought I'd add - I'm using Kubuntu 12.04 live CD and I've a Kubuntu installation.
[08:56] <nevyn> dnivra: that doesn't matter.
[08:57] <nevyn> what are you trying to resize with?
[08:57] <Braden`> Nothing in root
[08:57] <Braden`> I did delete a 140gb file though
[08:57] <Braden`> It hasn't released the space yet
[08:57] <nevyn> what was that file?
[08:57] <Loknar> is it in the recycle bin?
[08:57] <nevyn> and what program if any was using it?
[08:57] <Braden`> A truecrypt volume
[08:57] <Braden`> Its console only (server)
[08:57] <nevyn> is it mounted?
[08:57] <Braden`> No
[08:57] <dnivra> nevyn: Ah okay. Added that just in case :). I'm using partition manager that is available in the live CD(I guess it's the same used during installation?).
[08:57] <Braden`> I unmounted it first
[08:58] <nevyn> Braden`: so the lazy thing is reboot.
[08:58] <Braden`> Is there an alternative method?
[08:59] <bun24331> man, what a day for hacks. first ubuntu forums, then the apple developer site...what next?
[08:59] <nevyn> do you know the filename?
[08:59] <Braden`> yes
[08:59] <nevyn> if you have fuser install you could try fuser -k (file)
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: are you using ZFS?
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: with snapshots?
[09:00] <nevyn> or btrfs
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> nevyn: same deal as zfs?
[09:00] <Slart> Braden`: hmm.. odd.. du reports strange results on my system... running it as root gives me 8 GB used space less than running it as my regular user
[09:01] <Slart> Braden`: I would trust df more than I trust the output from du.. at least when it comes to hard drives with complex stuff on it
[09:01] <nevyn> ActionParsnip: yeah but gpl compatible
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> nevyn: ahhh I see
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> nevyn: thanks man, learned today
[09:02] <nevyn> Braden`: what filesystem is /
[09:04] <Braden`> Its ext4
[09:05] <dad> hello...I'm looking for some printer troubleshooting steps!
[09:05] <vlad76> When I run command apt-get -f install I receive this error message: http://pastebin.com/6xPYXiXV  How to fix that?
[09:05] <Kerim> #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:05] <Kerim> oops, sorreh
[09:06] <Braden`> fuser reports no files
[09:06] <Braden`> Trying the reboot method
[09:06] <vlad76> btw, I think I managed to remove old kernels, got 110MB of space ^_^
[09:08] <dnivra> vlad76: Did you see this already: http://askubuntu.com/questions/304360/error-running-sudo-apt-get-f-install? It has the exact error you are facing.
[09:09] <Slart> Braden`: this looks interesting http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/freebsd-why-command-df-and-du-reports-different-output.html
[09:10] <dnivra> Does anyone have suggestions on the issue I'd asked out earlier - unable to resize an extended partition with error "Could not set geometry for partition ‘/dev/sda3’ while trying to resize/move it."?
[09:10] <l0p3n> Hello! Does anyone know if it's possible to send mail to another computer on the LAN using mailx?
[09:12] <franks2> Is this down for you guys?: [Connecting to no.archive.ubuntu.com (130.239.18.137)]
[09:13] <l0p3n> franks2: I had the same problem with .se. Try using the main repo instead.
[09:13] <franks2> l0p3n: what is the main repo? :P
[09:13] <MrQuist> Hey guys, i have a small question: I have this VM (ubuntu 12.04) on VMWare. I added a NIC (while server is running), and configurated it (/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules) and /etc/network/interfaces
[09:14] <MrQuist> I've restarted udev, modprobe -r vmxnet3, modprobe vmxnet3, service networking restart
[09:14] <MrQuist> ip a s shows me eth2
[09:14] <rannonga> dnivra is this drive mounted?
[09:14] <dnivra> rannonga: no. None of them are mounted. I'm running a live CD.
[09:15] <l0p3n> franks2: I think it is http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[09:15] <MrQuist> yet, ifup tells me its being ignored. I've renamed eth2 to ethMgt, yet ifup ethMgt -> Cannot find ethMgt, and ifup eth2 -> Ignoring unknown interface eth2=eth2
[09:15] <MrQuist> ip a s -> eth2: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN qlen 1000
[09:16] <MrQuist> How can I enable the interface without rebooting the VM?
[09:17] <vlad76> dnivra: it didn't help =(
[09:19] <piggzoid_> ubuntu software center fails to download anything, anybody know what can be wrong?
[09:19] <rannonga> lol more info please
[09:19] <MrQuist> piggazoid, the internet cable.
[09:20] <rannonga> lol
[09:20] <MrQuist> Quick question -> How can I enable the interface without rebooting the VM?
[09:20] <piggazoid> :)
[09:20] <rannonga> can you run anything from the terminal?
[09:20] <rannonga> pigg, does sudo apt-get update work?
[09:20] <MrQuist> rannonga, you asking that to me?
[09:20] <piggazoid> internet works perfect tried steam client and dota
[09:21] <MrQuist> yes.... and you're on IRC
[09:21] <rannonga> do you have synaptic?
[09:21] <piggazoid> no issue there
[09:21] <vlad76> is it safe to apt-get remove linux-generic-pae ?
[09:21] <vlad76> and install it again?..
[09:22] <rannonga> vlad, why do you want to?
[09:22] <piggazoid> i get this error message from software center: Failed to download package files
[09:23] <vlad76> rannonga: this is the reason: http://pastebin.com/EeA8BkEk
[09:23] <rannonga> did you run the -f install?
[09:23] <rannonga> vlad
[09:24] <vlad76> rannonga: yes, it returns similar error, about dependencies of linux-generic-pae
[09:24] <piggazoid> i ran sudo apt-get update and seems to work
[09:26] <rannonga> vlad, try running your previous suggestion
[09:26] <vlad76> rannonga: you mean apt-get remove linux-generic-pae ?
[09:26] <rannonga> yeah
[09:27] <MrQuist> rannonga, i suppose you don't know how i can get my eth2 to work? :(
[09:27] <rannonga> quist, do you get any errors?
[09:28] <piggazoid> @rannonga apt-get update hangs when connecting to se.archive.ubuntu.com
[09:29] <MrQuist> rannonga, yes - i've added a nic, saw eth2 via ip a s. Then renamed it to ethMgt (via .rules), and now i can't seem to start it
[09:29] <MrQuist> ifup ethMgt -> Cannot find ethMgt, and ifup eth2 -> Ignoring unknown interface eth2=eth2
[09:29] <rannonga> pigg, could you try downloading synaptic and changing the mirror
[09:29] <piggazoid> ok
[09:29] <MrQuist> i've renamed 2 other eth's, those are renamed correctly and work fine
[09:29] <MrQuist> eth0 -> ethPub
[09:30] <MrQuist> eth1 -> ethOff
[09:30] <arun_> how to become a root user
[09:30] <MrQuist> arun_ -> sudo su -
[09:31] <k1l_> arun_: MrQuist no
[09:31] <k1l_> arun_: use sudo -i
[09:31] <MrQuist> k1l_, why?
[09:31] <rannonga> quist,  what is .rules?
[09:31] <k1l_> MrQuist: first: its the ubuntu way. second sudo -i sets all variables  right.
[09:31] <MrQuist> @ rannonga -> i mean this file: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[09:32] <MrQuist> k1l_, we're in #ubuntu, right? :P
[09:32] <rannonga> quist, could you paste the file
[09:32] <MrQuist> sure hang on
[09:33] <piggazoid> @rannonga, thnx it worked!
[09:33] <arun_> root user means that i have all administrative rights, isnt it?
[09:33] <rannonga> np
[09:34] <rannonga> arun_, why do you want to do this?
[09:34] <k1l_> arun_: root is like a loaded and unlocked gun. you dont need it all the time. so stay the regular user and just give the few commands root rights (with sudo/gksudo) when they need it
[09:35] <k1l_> !sudo | arun_
[09:35] <arun_> i need to give permission to a user to access one of my drive
[09:36] <petoo> Hi
[09:36] <rannonga> don't you just need the root password?
[09:36] <MrQuist> rannonga -> http://pastebin.com/0FPgKwem
[09:36] <marcloney> !ls
[09:37] <MrQuist> !sambad
[09:37] <petoo> I don't find dancer-services package in repository, yet it's mentioned in the Ubuntu Documentaion link
[09:38] <petoo> I need dancer ircd  services
[09:38] <faisal> hi
[09:38] <DJones> !find dancer
[09:38] <ihbgjhbgjhebge> hey everyone
[09:38] <MrQuist> ihbgjhbgjhebge, hithere
[09:38] <DJones> petoo: Looking at the bots info, it dancer-ircd
[09:38] <MrQuist> lovely name you've got there.
[09:38] <rannonga> petoo, do you have synaptic?
[09:38] <MrQuist> rannonga, think you can help me out?
[09:38] <ihbgjhbgjhebge> thanks man
[09:39] <ihbgjhbgjhebge> lol
[09:39] <petoo> DJones, I have already installed dancer-ircd, I need the services. One of the Ubuntu Help documents mentions that I need dancer-services package which is not available.
[09:40] <rannonga> MrQuist, i don't think so sorry
[09:40] <MrQuist> np
[09:40] <MrQuist> thanks
[09:40] <MrQuist> oh
[09:40] <MrQuist> bye
[09:41] <FloodBot1> MrQuist: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:42] <DJones> petoo: Its likes it was removed in 2012 due to being buggy & no maintainer response
[09:42] <DJones> petoo: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/dancer-services/1.8.0.6.3-6.2
[09:43] <petoo> Ok, so any idea  about other ways to get services installed on my ircd?
[09:43] <DJones> petoo: There may be a ppa that somebody else has done, but other than that you may need to track down the source packages to install from
[09:44] <DJones> petoo: Somebody else in the channel may have an different suggestion though
[09:45] <petoo> Sure, I am waiting for suggestions!
[09:45] <hewhomust> petoo, whats the name of the package?
[09:45] <petoo> dancer-services
[09:45] <ikonia> !info dancer-services
[09:45] <ikonia> petoo: have you checked if the actual upstream source is maintained ?
[09:46] <pierre1> Hi. My gnome-terminal history is set to save more than 10 thousand lines, but (using wc) I see my .bash_history continues on 2000. How can I fix that?
[09:46] <petoo> ikonia, No, it's not there any more
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> petoo: tried finding a PPA?
[09:46] <ikonia> petoo: so that's why it doesn't exist, why are you trying to use a product that no longer exists ?
[09:46] <DJones> ikonia: According to launchpad it was deleted in 2012 due to being buggy/no maintainer response, I suggested the only other option could be a ppa/build themselves unless anybody else had another suggestion
[09:46] <hewhomust> why do you need it so much?
[09:47] <ikonia> DJones: he's just said upstream has gone
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> pierre1: blank the file off, may make the setting apply
[09:47] <ikonia> DJones: so I don't know how/who he expacts to make this and from "what" if it's gone
[09:47] <petoo> Any other ircd in your mind ? of course I need services too
[09:48] <hewhomust> what irc client are you using atm?
[09:49] <petoo> client? it's xchat though
[09:49] <pierre1> ActionParsnip, I backed up the file and deleted. But why would that make any difference?
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> hewhomust: ircd = irc server, not client
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> pierre1: its a possible step to take, worth a shot
[09:51] <pierre1> ActionParsnip, ok. Can I append my old file to my new one and see if it gets increased normally now?
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> pierre1: makes sense :)
[09:51] <hewhomust> petoo, perhaps this might be interesting for you unrealircd
[09:52] <pierre1> ActionParsnip, now working. The line count went back to 2000.
[09:52] <pierre1> :(
[09:55] <pierre1> ActionParsnip, I think this will work http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-view-bash-shell-history-and-change-bash-history-file-size-in-ubuntu.html
[09:55] <pierre1> ActionParsnip, thanks for the help
[09:57] <SuperTyp> I am building libreoffice and get the error: zypper: command not found?
[09:58] <jacta> ActionParsnip: I just wanted to let you know that all your support is gold for me - thanks a bunch for now
[09:58] <hewhomust> is zypper installed?
[09:59] <[Raiden]> zypper - opensuse package manager
[09:59] <[Raiden]> )
[09:59] <hewhomust> lol
[09:59] <hewhomust> sorry
[09:59] <Kizzy> :)
[10:00] <hewhomust> isn't there an opensuse irc channel?
[10:00] <ikonia> yes #suse
[10:00] <hewhomust> they probably could help more?
[10:01] <Kizzy> well i just changed over to 13.04
[10:02] <SuperTyp> thx
[10:12] <srini> #raspberry pi
[10:13] <vlad76> hey guys, can someone point me to an "official" explanation why you can't use spaces in filenames on linux? =) (it's a long story...)
[10:13] <Pumpkin-> you (normally) can, it just gets annoying
[10:13] <Pumpkin-> as you have to refer the file either with quotes or by escaping the spaces with "\ "
[10:14] <mikejw> is there a command similar to 'du' to show the distribution of files across the filesystem.. i.e. having trouble with running out of inodes
[10:15] <hewhomust> du -c
[10:15] <mikejw> thanks
[10:15] <hewhomust> you can use du in ubuntu?
[10:15] <Pumpkin-> I don't think that is what you want
[10:16] <hewhomust> yeah i just accidentally missed the terminal
[10:19] <[Raiden]> vlad76: find . -type f |while read x ; do echo "$x" ; done - this is work fine with spaces in filenames.
[10:19] <hewhomust> mike did that work, cause i seriously just missed typing in the terminal?
[10:21] <sasuke> hi guys
[10:21] <sasuke>  Can anybody tell me how to install hdmi drivers on ubuntu12.04
[10:21] <ikonia> sasuke: there isn't any
[10:22] <hewhomust> yeah what I thought too
[10:22] <hewhomust> I'm assuming you can see stuff
[10:22] <scott11111> I have an issue with 12.04.2, one of mydisks won't mount. It's partitioned GPT, I've tried sudo mount -t ntfs.... but it says it's not a valid NTFS filesystem. On windows it shows up as a foreign drive NTFS formatted.
[10:22] <sasuke> ikonia, my laptop is detecting the  device but not showing.
[10:23] <hewhomust> oh external display
[10:23] <hewhomust> thats totally different
[10:23] <hewhomust> scot, are you dual booting?
[10:24] <sasuke> ikonia, when i connected the device with my laptop . This is the msg i got "HDMI1 connected 1920x1200+1366+0 (0xf7) normal (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 518mm x 324mm"
[10:24] <scott11111> Nope, it's a HTPC that was on Windows 8 but I'm sick of Windows just having a fit :/
[10:24] <sasuke> but the display is not showing
[10:24] <hewhomust> scot ,so you removed it?
[10:24] <scott11111> It's a storage drive ~ 2TB
[10:24] <hewhomust> oh
[10:24] <ikonia> sasuke: ok ?
[10:24] <scott11111> Yea, new install of Ubuntu
[10:26] <scott11111> Windows won't mount this disk unless I first import it as it's showing as a foreign drive
[10:26] <hewhomust> scott, whats the format?
[10:26] <scott11111> NTFS
[10:26] <hewhomust> scott, so can you actually see it in ubuntu?
[10:26] <scott11111> I would like to convert to ext3 or 4 but 2TB of data I'd have to back up some how first :(
[10:26] <hewhomust> hmm
[10:26] <scott11111> If I list my disks but I can't get it to mount
[10:27] <hewhomust> is it relatively full?
[10:27] <scott11111> 40GB free :(
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> scott11111: why do you not have a backup anyway?
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> scott11111: if the drive fails, where is your data?
[10:28] <hewhomust> scot, what command are you using to try to mount it?
[10:28] <scott11111> Honestly, I couldn't afford a second 2TB drive at the time, but it's on my shopping list for next month
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> scott11111: luckily next month is soon :)
[10:29] <hewhomust> lol
[10:29] <scott11111> Yes ha! sudo mount /dev/sdb /media/hdd1 -t ntfs or something - sorry I'm on my other pc
[10:31] <hewhomust> scott, can you paste the results from running sudo lsblk
[10:31] <scott11111> I'll have to jump on the other pc and come in here 1 sec
[10:32] <hewhomust> k
[10:33] <scott222222> here it is: http://pastebin.com/8Pv5JEZ9
[10:33] <hewhomust> thx
[10:34] <scott222222> It's sdb @ 1.8T I need to mount and auto mount. I'm a bit concerned on NTFS writing in Ubuntu too, in the past I know it was risky.
[10:34] <hewhomust> scot, i'm mounting my windows partitions and it's fine
[10:34] <hewhomust> ntfs
[10:35] <scott11111> What command would you recommend I try to mount to /media/hdd1
[10:36] <Jakey1> what the way to convert .mp4 to .avi?
[10:36] <hewhomust> scott, read this website it's quite informative, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/mounting-a-windows-xp-ntfs-partition-in-linux/
[10:38] <hewhomust> jakey, you need to find a converting application
[10:38] <scott222222> I got an error
[10:38] <hewhomust> scott, what?
[10:38] <scott222222> see here: http://pastebin.com/9K83hZdm
[10:39] <scott222222> I've tried sdb3 too
[10:39] <hewhomust> ok
[10:40] <hewhomust> scott, another good website https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB go down to Mount the drive
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> Jakey1  winff is nice
[10:40] <Jakey1> MonkeyDust: Thank you
[10:41] <hewhomust> scott, mount the sdb3
[10:41] <scott222222> sam error using "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb /media/hdd1" Always says NTFS signature missing
[10:41] <hewhomust> it says to install ntfs-3g driver, have you done that?
[10:42] <scott11111> I believe I already did let me check :)
[10:42] <hewhomust> k
[10:42] <scott222222> it's installed
[10:42] <scott222222> "ntfs-3g set to manually installed."
[10:43] <hewhomust> type the command you used exactly
[10:43] <scott11111> To mount?
[10:43] <hewhomust> yes please
[10:43] <beboj> anyone using mediatomb ???
[10:43] <scott11111> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb /media/hdd1
[10:43] <scott11111> I've tried sdb1,2 and 3
[10:43] <scott11111> Always "NTFS signature missing"
[10:44] <hewhomust> try using ntfs-3g instead of just ntfs
[10:44] <scott222222> Same error :(
[10:45] <scott11111> The other drive is fine, but this one says "Partitioned: gpt" and the other "Partitioned: dos"
[10:45] <scott11111> I know it's a dynamic drive so some reason
[10:45] <scott11111> for*
[10:46] <[Raiden]> may be need to convert gpt to mbr
[10:46] <scott11111> Will I loose data?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> scott11111: you may be able to use foremost to get files when you get the new drive, you will lose file names and folders location but you may get the data
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> scott11111: this is why backup is important
[10:47] <scott11111> It's fine in Windows I'm unsure why Ubuntu hates it.
[10:47] <[Raiden]> I know a Russian program that was able to do without a loss. Paragon hard disk manager. Shareware program
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> scott11111: run an chkdsk on it, so you know it is healthy
[10:48] <scott11111> I did that last night before I jumped to Ubuntu, seems fine.
[10:48] <krz> how do i copy text in a terminal?
[10:48] <scott11111> Click and drag to highlight then right click -> copy
[10:48] <hewhomust> scott, you mentioned that you had 40GB remaining data it's a bit dodgy but one possible avenue is to create an ext4 partition with this copy files to it and then enlarge it
[10:49] <hewhomust> scott, doing this should not remove any date
[10:49] <hewhomust> scott, data
[10:49] <scott11111> So 40 - copy, delete - resize to 80. Rinse, repeat
[10:49] <richard_> i just spun up a vm. does it have libgmp on it? I did "sudo apt-get install libgmp    .......... "cannot find libgmp" how do i install and/or update libgmp?
[10:49] <richard_> 13.04 vm
[10:49] <hewhomust> scott, yeah thats what i'm saying
[10:50] <hewhomust> scott, there's no reason why it shouldn't work
[10:50] <hewhomust> scott, might just take a while
[10:50] <scott11111> Can you resize an ext that way? I know in Windoh you can't unless it has the space at the end of the drive
[10:51] <hewhomust> scott, i have no idea it's just a weird idea i came up with
[10:53] <scott11111> Apparently dynamic disk NTFS isn't supported in Ubuntu it needs to be converted to a basic disk in Windows first? That sound right?
[10:54] <krz> scott11111: hmmm, thats what im doing. just realized tmux has a different behaviour
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> windows != linux
[10:55] <[Raiden]> I'm not sure that it supports. It is better to check with someone else.
[10:55] <scott11111> Very true Monkey, I wish I had the space to do a new ext4 partition
[10:56] <richard_> i just spun up a 13.04 vm. does it have libgmp on it? I did "sudo apt-get install libgmp    .......... "cannot find libgmp" how do i install and/or update libgmp?
[10:57] <auronandace> !find libgmp
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> richard_: sudo apt-get install libgmp10
[10:57] <richard_> ActionParsnip: Thanks!
[10:57] <Jakey1> MonkeyDust: It didnt work
[10:57] <richard_> ActionParsnip: is that the latest libgmp?
[10:57] <MonkeyDust> Jakey1  what didnt?
[10:58] <Jakey1> looked like it was doing a conversion but then no output mmpeg4 to avi using winff
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> Jakey1  did you click 'apply', before starting to convert?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> richard_: latest in the Ubuntu repos, yes
[10:59] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[10:59] <richard_> ActionParsnip: Shank you parsnip. A real gentleman
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> richard_: np
[10:59] <DragonDon_> greetings all
[11:00] <rannonga> hi
[11:00] <randomaussie> hi all,,, can i get some advice with media play back... trying to get a blue ray rip to run (on 12.04) and the sound is fine but the video is all messed up... i had it all working perfectly on an earlier install of 12.04. i've tried to have all the codecs i could find in the software centre had on offer but to no luck...
[11:00] <richard_> ActionParsnip: how do you see what the lastes version of stuff you can download?
[11:00] <DragonDon_> anyone know if there is a nice tool for making maps based off of a google map? (I saw the instructables how-to....would like simpler)
[11:00] <richard_> ActionParsnip: what is even the difference between repo? binary, compiling from source, ppa etc?
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> richard_  apt-cache search [part of package name]
[11:01] <auronandace> richard_: best to stick to what is in the repos
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> richard_: repo is supported here and instaled as binary, ppa is a 3rd party source which may be a later version but not supported here
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> richard_  a ppa is an unofficial and unscreened "external" source, hence potentially dangerous
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> richard_: you are free to compile source but we cannot support that here, you can get the source from the repos or from he projects website
[11:02] <richard_> ActionParsnip: so would libmgp-dev giv me everything???
[11:02] <richard_> ActionParsnip: inclufding libgmp10?
[11:02] <richard_> including*
[11:02] <rannonga> random, could you describe the problem a bit more?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> richard_: it will be headers for the package if you are compiling etc, tells the build how to talk to the binaries
[11:04] <richard_> ActionParsnip: what do you mean repo is supported here... what is here?
[11:04] <scott11111> Gotta ruin thanks everyone
[11:04] <auronandace> richard_: this support channel
[11:04] <richard_> ok
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> richard_: the repos are maintained by MOTU, and so are official ubuntu packages
[11:05] <richard_> ActionParsnip: what is MOTU
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> !motu
[11:05] <richard_> i can lookt hat up
[11:05] <richard_> Acce: but will libgmp-dev give me everything including libgmp10?
[11:05] <Jakey1> MonkeyDust: just tried with it apply, it works. thanks
[11:06] <richard_> ActionParsnip: but will libgmp-dev give me everything including libgmp10?
[11:06] <randomaussie> rannonga: well last time i installed 12.04, i could connect to a windows share and stream a 1080p blue ray rip and it played after automaticaly installing an update.. now i either cant play them or they run extreamly badly
[11:07] <richard_> ActionParsnip: what is the difference in building from source with tar.gz versus git?
[11:07] <g105b> Can someone point me in the right direction? I want to have 3 staging servers and keep their installed packages and config files in sync - what tools are available?
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> g105b  try #ubuntu-server
[11:09] <g105b> MonkeyDust: thanks
[11:09] <oourrf> hi
[11:10] <rannonga> hi
[11:10] <richard_> ActionParsnip: but will libgmp-dev give me everything including libgmp10?
[11:10] <oourrf> how i can print to the same line in python?
[11:10] <richard_> ActionParsnip: what is the difference in building from source with tar.gz versus git?
[11:10] <richard_> builf from tar.gz or git, what is the difference?
[11:11] <DarkSim_> How can I make certain I have a seperate partition which is /home mounted?
[11:12] <ikonia> richard_: what are you actually trying to do ?
[11:13] <richard_> build this from source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=255782.0 In the first post there is the option for tar.bz2 and git? not sure what the difference is, is it just in the process of how it grabs the file?
[11:13] <richard_> ikonia: ^^
[11:14] <ikonia> richard_: the difference is one is a snapshot of the code base, the other is bleeding edge from the git repo
[11:14] <ikonia> richard_: although to be honest, if you're asking that I'd question if you should be trying to do this at this time
[11:15] <auronandace> !checkinstall | richard_
[11:16] <alexw> Silly question
[11:16] <alexw> I have a group htpc
[11:16] <richard_> ikonia: so the git is the most up to date then right?
[11:16] <alexw> sabnzbd sickbeard couchpotato are all in them
[11:16] <ikonia> richard_: not always
[11:17] <ikonia> richard_: git can be "broken"
[11:17] <auronandace> !enter | alexw
[11:17] <richard_> ikonia: ok thanks!
[11:18] <alexw> I have a group htpc, sabnzbd sickbeard couchpotato are all users and have been added to this group, they each have a respective directory /opt/sabnzbd /opt/sickbeard and /opt/couchpotato however when a process is running as "sabnzbd"  for instance it cannot access /opt/sickbeard
[11:18] <alexw> I've tried chgrp - but does not work
[11:19] <alexw> also tried chmod -R g+rx /opt/sickbeard
[11:20] <ikonia> alexw: is this an external mounted disk by any chance ?
[11:20] <alexw> nope
[11:20] <ikonia> alexw: why are you changing the group - when it's the user
[11:20] <ikonia> alexw: show me the permissions on /opt/sickbeard please in a pastebin
[11:21] <alexw> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5903803/
[11:21] <ikonia> alexw: and what is the error you have ?
[11:21] <alexw> full dumo
[11:21] <alexw> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5903806/
[11:22] <alexw> full dump* sorry
[11:22] <ikonia> alexw: yes, it doesn't have the excute bit
[11:22] <alexw> I need permissions read/write user, read group and read global
[11:22] <alexw> is that 744
[11:23] <ikonia> alexw: it can't list/show items without execute
[11:23] <alexw> got it
[11:23] <alexw> there we go :)
[11:24] <alexw> thanks ikonia legend
[11:31] <zimbo> hi, how are you all doing?
[11:31] <zimbo> how can i install all of the templates for open office writer
[11:31] <zimbo> using apt-get on ubuntu?
[11:32] <rannonga> zimbo, do you know the package name, or are you asking?
[11:32] <ikonia> zimbo: isn't there packages containing the template?
[11:32] <zimbo> i'm not sure, just asking, being lazy i guess i could just google it
[11:32] <blazemore> ...should be the topic of #ubuntu
[11:33] <Ahti333> following problem: i am on 12.04 lts, and need to patch libcurl3 to have sftp support. i also need a package that requires libcurl3 in version 7.22.0-3ubuntu4.2. when i do apt-get source libcurl3, it just gives me the source for 7.22.0-3ubuntu4.
[11:33] <Ahti333> The problem seems to be, that version 7.22.0-3ubuntu4.2 is in the precise-updates repo. i have added that as deb-src to my repo list, but trying to force that repo with 'apt-source -t precise-updates curl' errors "Ignore unavailable version ... of package curl", while the path given in the sources list does contain the correct version of curl
[11:33] <bgardner> blazemore: +1
[11:33] <Ahti333> any ideas?
[11:33] <jrib> Ahti333: run apt-get update
[11:34] <Ahti333> i did
[11:34] <jrib> Ahti333: also, I'm not familiar with "apt-source", but I use apt-get source
[11:34] <Ahti333> oh yeah thats a typo, i did use apt-get source
[11:35] <jrib> Ahti333: pastebin: cat /etc/apt/sources.list; apt-get update; apt-cache policy libcurl3; apt-get source libcurl3; ls
[11:35] <jrib> I'll be back in ~5
[11:37] <purplehz> hey guys is it possible to access another user's screen sessions?
[11:37] <purplehz> if i want to see what he's up to
[11:38] <ikonia> purplehz: you controll his tty and he's not passworded the screens, sure
[11:38] <blazemore> purplehz: Apologies for Google Cache url, the Ubuntu Forums are currently down: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:w9qgvabSrRIJ:ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D299286+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk
[11:39] <purplehz> thanks!
[11:41] <Ahti333> jrib http://pastebin.com/aGY7vbDC
[11:49] <Ahti333> jrib found the error in the sources.list, thanks for making me look at it again ;) :D
[11:50] <jrib> Ahti333: cool
[11:51] <Hatori> hello
[11:52] <Hatori> I want to develope multiplayer web based games  based on python backend ..
[11:52] <Hatori> What the 'suite' tool to implement it .. In server side and client side
[11:54] <richard_> how do I install libdb4.8++-dev from https://launchpad.net/~bitcoin/+archive/bitcoin ???
[11:55] <kududece> anyone can suggest me?
[11:55] <kududece> richard_, some archive ?? Is it old archive ?
[11:55] <DJones> kududece: You may be better asking that in ##python they may be able to help you better
[11:56] <richard_> kududece: I believe so. didn't see it in the repo
[11:56] <kududece> djones, maybe .. I would try that .. But maybein ubuntu based  ...
[11:57] <kududece> richard_, commonly, you can download .deb file from them ...
[11:57] <richard_> how, i'm trying to do this in terminal?
[11:57] <richard_> kududece: ^^
[11:58] <blackshirt> richard_, or add its repo's/ppa's through apt system
[12:00] <richard_> blackshirt: how do i do that in terminal? how do I just add libdb4.8 from there? or do I have to add everything?
[12:01] <badguy> Yoooo how to uninstall buntu from my pc
[12:01] <chunkyhead> which is the best email client you guys feel?
[12:01] <bgardner> !best | chunkyhead
[12:01] <auronandace> !install | badguy
[12:02] <badguy> Chunky the best email client is yur mother
[12:02] <badguy> I send her emailsss
[12:02] <richard_> badguy: language please
[12:02] <chunkyhead> badguy: keep your mouth shut
[12:02] <badguy> Fcuk u nobs im a bad guy
[12:03] <richard_> badguy: pleas stop or I will subnet ban you.
[12:03] <chunkyhead> shouldnt this kind of behaviour lead to ban?
[12:03] <richard_> yes. It will
[12:03] <DJones> chunkyhead: They're already gone
[12:03] <[Derek]> ohai
[12:03] <DJones> richard_: Please don't make threats
[12:03] <chunkyhead> DJones: richard_ (y) gj
[12:03]  * [Derek] hugs DJones
[12:03] <[Derek]> Our lord and savior
[12:04] <chunkyhead> bgardner: no one on ubuntu-bots is replying lol
[12:05] <bgardner> chunkyhead: Huh, you're right - hang on a moment.
[12:06] <zimbo> in the name of the lord jeebus i command thy devil out of thee
[12:06] <sudormrf> Hi. Does anyone have experience with iredmail?
[12:07] <bgardner> chunkyhead is correct, the bots aren't responding in #ubuntu-bots.
[12:08] <DJones> chunkyhead: bgardner Looks like the bot is on the wrong side of a netsplit and hasn't rejoined the channel
[12:08] <bgardner> DJones: Gotcha, thank you
[12:09] <zimbo> sudo apt-get install libreoffice-templates
[12:09] <zimbo> done
[12:09] <zimbo> and i cant find the templates
[12:09] <zimbo> in libreoffice writer
[12:10] <zimbo> the templates and documents folders are still empty
[12:16] <nassepossu> genii, no luck with reinstalling xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[12:17] <nassepossu> does someone have an idea why my laptops touchpad doesn't work?
[12:17] <richard_> "add-apt-repository" commant not foune?!?!?!
[12:17] <richard_> found*
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> nassepossu: any errors in your logs?
[12:17] <richard_> command*
[12:18] <nassepossu> couldn't find any, ubuntu doesn't even detect the touchpad
[12:18] <richard_> "add-apt-repository: command not found" ???
[12:18] <nassepossu> using older kernel works but how do i revert it?
[12:18] <bgardner> richard_: apt-add-repository, not add-apt-repository
[12:18] <richard_> bgardner: thanks!
[12:19] <richard_> bgardner: that's not what the website said.. same error command not founf. I'm using a freshly spun up vm.. do I need to download something to use add-apt-repository?
[12:19] <richard_> anyone??^^^
[12:20] <Pici> richard_: please be patient.
[12:20] <Pici> richard_: You need to install software-properties-common if you are on a recent release, if that package isn't available, then its python-software-properties.
[12:21] <richard_> Pici: i'll try the first one. I'm on a freshly spun up 13.04 vm
[12:22] <richard_> Pici: that worked thanks! Quite dandy.
[12:23] <richard_> Pici: what is that. A software package that is found in ubuntu reposthat allow for the install of ppas? I'm learning the terminology
[12:23] <richard_> repos* that
[12:23] <Pici> richard_: Its a package that allows the quick install of PPAs without manually modifying your sources.
[12:24] <thowniii> what's a PPA?
[12:24] <thowniii> :D
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | thowniii
[12:27] <richard_> Pici: so when I download this PPA https://launchpad.net/~bitcoin/+archive/bitcoin because I want libdb4.8 is it just ready to use?
[12:29] <Pici> richard_: you'll need to run an apt-get update and then an apt-get install of that package.  Also, keep in mind that PPAs are created by the community and are explicitly not supported if something goes wrong.
[12:30] <richard_> Pici: yes sure... why do I need to update... and should I install first? is the ppa just putting the stuff in my local "repo" but they're still not available to my machine until I "apt-get install libdb4.8++-dev"?
[12:31] <Alegreya> can i watch porn using ubuntu?
[12:31] <Pici> richard_: running 'update' only refreshes the contents of the repositories that you have listed on your computer. It doesn't install anything.
[12:31] <richard_> Pici: I do NOT want libdb5 or anything... I want the exact 1 I just listed. I'm afarid if I update it'll update to 5?
[12:31] <richard_> Pici: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
[12:31] <richard_> Pici: How do I check the repos?
[12:31] <Pici> !apt | richard_
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> Alegreya: keep it familly friendy here please
[12:32] <Pici> lotuspsychje: thanks, I missed that.
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> Pici: yw
[12:33] <Alegreya> can i?
[12:33] <DJones> Alegreya: You can do pretty much whatever you want with any operating system
[12:33] <Alegreya> no i tryed fedora and couldnt
[12:33] <sudormrf> Is there anyone here with iredmail experience?
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> sudormrf: you can ask your specific question here mate
[12:34] <Alegreya> wich is relly odd
[12:34] <Alegreya> since its got a fedora and those hats are popular at strip clubs
[12:35] <DJones> Alegreya: That topic of conversation isn't suitable for the Ubuntu channels
[12:35] <Alegreya> but i can do it with ubuntu?
[12:36] <DJones> Alegreya: You'll have to try it yourself
[12:36] <Alegreya> try it?
[12:36] <compdoc> Alegreya, try a live cd
[12:36] <compdoc> just dont let yur mom catch you
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> :p
[12:37] <sudormrf> lotuspsychje, Yeah, sure.. I am working with iredmail -- I have multiple virtual domains and I need to have mail accounts set up for each of them (all on the same server).
[12:37] <sudormrf> lotuspsychje, I can't seem to get more than one domain working with iredmail. :-/
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> sudormrf: are you on ubuntu server mate?
[12:37] <svector> Hello guys what partition size shall I make to install Ubuntu alongside windows?
[12:37] <sudormrf> lotuspsychje, Yep.
[12:37] <sudormrf> lotuspsychje, 12.04 LTS
[12:38] <svector> I don't want it be inside windows...
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> sudormrf: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys have more experience with iredmail, first timle ive heared of this package myself
[12:39] <thowniii> svector: I'd say at least 25 GB but it depends how much you have storage
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> sudormrf: maybe this can help? http://www.unixmen.com/setup-mail-server-in-minutes-using-iredmail-in-ubuntu-12-10-debian-6/
[12:39] <svector> thowniii: I have a D partition that is 90 GB? Can I access that partition if I install ubuntu on it?
[12:40] <svector> I suppose the partition will be formatted with ext4
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> svector: even better would be clean install ubuntu single and loose windows once and for good :p
[12:40] <thowniii> svector: yes you can, when you install it along side with windows, it creates an alternative boot menu called GRUB, you can then choose to boot from windows or ubuntu
[12:41] <sudormrf> lotuspsychje, will have a look -- I have one domain name working with no problem (i.e. me@domain1.com) but I cannot get me@domain2.com working -- I have virtual domains set up in apache for both.
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> thowniii  the windows partition then is not touched
[12:41] <makoto> hi all. my ubuntu install is feeling very very unresponsive when i'm trying to use my ipod or use rhytmbox to play music from a samba share. rhythmbox keeps turning into zombies and gtkpod is suffering lockups and hangs. how can i increase verbosity and see why on earth its running so badly?
[12:42] <thowniii> svector: make sure you leave some room for windows, i'd say 50/50 for win and ubuntu
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> sudormrf: you working on the webbased page of iredmail? the url i posted show howto add multiple domains
[12:42] <svector> thowniii: that's what I did in the past.... But I  want to install the ubuntu on it's own partition( not inside windows). So is it a good idea to shrink my D and clean install on the new partition?
[12:43] <svector> lotuspsychje, that'll be my next step :)
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> svector: there are so many alternative pro packages to replace windows :p
[12:43] <thowniii> svector:  well i wouldn't shrink unless i plan to use it for other data storage purposes
[12:43] <sudormrf> lotuspsychje, yeah... I have been able to setup me@domain2.com there... however I am not receiving any emails sent to info@domain2.com and I am not able to set it up on thunderbird or apple mail or the like.
[12:44] <sudormrf> lotuspsychje, Oddly enough, I can send mail -- but not receive. :-/
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> sudormrf: you sure your configuration is setup properly?
[12:45] <svector> thowniii, I'm not sure how much space I will use when I'm inside Ubuntu. I plan to use it for development.  And yes I want some space accessible from windows for data storage....
[12:45] <svector> thowniii, so shrink and clean install?
[12:45] <thowniii> svector yes
[12:45] <sudormrf> lotuspsychje, I am sure of nothing. :-D
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> sudormrf: sounds like an incomming mail server fault?
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> sudormrf: can you see any errors starting iredmail from terminal?
[12:46] <svector> thownii, will clean install on my D drive make the drive inaccessible from wiindows?
[12:47] <thowniii> svector: not completely but yes you won't be able to put files on it from windows unless you shrink it
[12:47] <sudormrf> lotuspsychje, well, iredmail is a server hosted application, so I can't really open it in the terminal.
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> ok
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> well bbl
[12:47] <svector> thowniii, okay thanks for the answers
[12:47] <thowniii> no problem
[12:47] <dutchie> hey, i'm having some issues with command-not-found. See http://pastebin.com/H5vuuTkK. I've tried dpkg-reconfiguring and apt-get install --reinstalling both command-not-found and -data, but no luck. Should I just remove those and get it to regenerate them somehow? Going afk now, but will leave this logged on and check for highlights
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> sudormrf: try in #ubuntu-server maybe or re-ask your issue here once in a while
[12:48] <sudormrf> lotuspsychje, cheers.
[12:50] <svector> Is it easy to expand a volume formatted in ext4?
[12:50] <svector> *or possible..
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> svector: yes in livecd
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> dutchie: use TAB to autocomplete commands
[12:52] <dutchie> ActionParsnip: i know
[12:54] <thowniii> i can't seem to be able to calibrate my display via the "color" setting in ubuntu.. i can add color profiles but not directly calibrate them. the nvidia control panel have some good settings but it's not natural to adjust gamma or brightness when all i want to do is display the colors correctly
[12:55] <thowniii> plus it doesn't show the icc profiles i've added froma file
[12:57] <shiningsurya> my ubuntu crashes after it starts...
[12:57] <shiningsurya> and when I  used the ubuntu rescue remix...
[12:57] <shiningsurya> it says that i dont have the b43 drivers...
[12:57] <shiningsurya> help how am i supposed to install the drivers if i cant even use my ubuntu..
[12:57] <shiningsurya> help
[12:57] <FloodBot1> shiningsurya: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:59] <compdoc> hmm, never heard of ubuntu rescue remix
[13:00] <shiningsurya> i googled it found it and tried it but ...:(
[13:00] <compdoc> might try something else
[13:00] <shiningsurya> like ??
[13:01] <shiningsurya> i am out of options
[13:01] <compdoc> latest version of ubuntu live?
[13:01] <compdoc> the newer the OS, the more likely it has drivers
[13:01] <compdoc> unless its really old hardware
[13:02] <shiningsurya> yeah ...after i had first installed the drivers for the first time It worked but after some time[lyk days] it started to crash...
[13:03] <shiningsurya> mine is BCM4318
[13:03] <zipy> is it possible to start an windows partition within virtualbox?
[13:04] <xgeek-cub> hello
[13:04] <xgeek-cub> I installed Lighdm and add fvwm in the .desktop
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> zipy  you mean an existing windows partition? no, that's not possible
[13:05] <shiningsurya> zpy it depends on the setting u used...
[13:05] <shiningsurya> virtual box has a different way
[13:05] <xgeek-cub> and now i have black screen with blinking mouse
[13:05] <zipy> i think it is possible
[13:06] <zipy> i found a howto, gonna try that :D
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> zipy: it is possible, it is know to cause issues. The guys in #vbox may know a guide or two
[13:06] <zipy> from ubuntuusers
[13:06] <bgardner> zipy: It's possible but not worth doing.
[13:06] <bgardner> zipy: Been there, got the t-shirt.
[13:06] <zipy> hmm or maybe another way than virtualbox
[13:07] <zipy> i just want to run it in ubuntu too
[13:07] <zipy> if i dont want to reboot
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> zipy: give it a go
[13:07] <bgardner> zipy: Give it a try, you may have a better experience.
[13:07] <zipy> ok i will try and give u feedback
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> zipy: you wont be able to run games in virtualbox
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> zipy  where's that tutorial, i'm curious
[13:08] <zipy> dont need to
[13:08] <zipy> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Dualboot-Windows_virtualisieren
[13:08] <zipy> in german tho
[13:09] <zhaotongxue> in fact this is the first time that i use IRC
[13:09] <zhaotongxue> Who could tell me how I can chat?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> zhaotongxue: you already are :)
[13:09] <bgardner> zipy: Virtualizing Windows in VBox is easy, that's not the problem.  That it's an existing partition is the issue.  Converting a normal partition to a VBox VDI is *not* simple.
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> zhaotongxue  you are using it now
[13:09] <zhaotongxue> Yes
[13:09] <zhaotongxue> thanks
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> zhaotongxue: just type and hit nter, people will reply, chat achieved
[13:10] <zhaotongxue> My english isnot very good
[13:10] <Guest18435> 我发消息大家可以看到的么？
[13:10] <zhaotongxue> 可以
[13:10] <Pici> !zh | Guest18435 zhaotongxue
[13:10] <Guest18435> 哦哦。。。这个怎么改名字的啊？
[13:10] <zhaotongxue> 我第一次用
[13:10] <Guest18435> 我也是第一次。。
[13:10] <zhaotongxue> 在虚拟机上装的linux
[13:10] <usr13> zhaotongxue: But realize, this is a very busy channel, a lot of support questions get asked so don't take up space needlessly.
[13:11] <zhaotongxue> 哪里人？
[13:11] <Guest18435> 我是用的Xubuntu
[13:11] <zipy> bgardner, ye im not sure if the changes made in the virtualbox will be done in the partition too
[13:11] <zhaotongxue> me too
[13:11] <Guest18435> 还有外国人？
[13:11] <zipy> with that guide
[13:11] <zhaotongxue> 一大片……
[13:12] <zhaotongxue> 你没发现迄今就我们俩china的？
[13:12] <Guest18435> 怎么改名字啊～～～～
[13:12] <Guest18435> 。。。
[13:12] <FloodBot1> Guest18435: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:12] <Pici> zhaotongxue: Please use #ubuntu-cn for Chinese.
[13:12] <bgardner> zipy: No, it doesn't work like that.  You have to do extensive preparations on the running partition to get it ready to be converted to a VDI.  Then after converting it, you destroy the partition.  You need to research carefully to be sure this is the path you want.
[13:12] <Guest18435> #ubuntu-cn
[13:12] <zhaotongxue> that;s nothing
[13:12] <usr13> Guest18435:  /join #ubuntu-what-ever
[13:12] <Guest18435> ok.
[13:12] <zipy> bgardner, ye i think its not worth doing it
[13:13] <codephobic> hi
[13:13] <bgardner> zipy: That was my conclusion.
[13:13] <zhaotongxue> In fact .I want to know something about others
[13:13] <zipy> i dont want an vdi, maybe i can find another solution
[13:13] <zipy> i dont want to virtualize it
[13:13] <codephobic> anyone here using Radeon HD 6670 or similar with ubuntu 13.04?
[13:13] <usr13> This channel topic is Ubuntu Support.  Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics
[13:14] <codephobic> I'm noticing some - disappointing - video tearing when playing regular (non HD) video content.
[13:14] <usr13> codephobic: Which player are you using?
[13:15] <codephobic> I've installed the proprietary ati catalyst and everything seems to be good otherwise. I'm using a dell monitor @ 1920*1200
[13:15] <codephobic> usr13, I was using vlc, would that make a difference? usually vlc is pretty much my best video player, across OSes.
[13:15] <jeanaustinr> Hi, I'm planning to install Ubuntu Touch on my Nexus 4. How large are the packages to be installed to the phone?
[13:16] <chunkyhead> does anyone know about accessing internet thru dmz?
[13:16] <usr13> codephobic: I don't know really, but try another and see.  mplayer?  or xine?
[13:16] <nightdrever> my ubuntu 12.04 starts automatically..... i have ppl inmy house for next few weeks so how do i set a password at log in?
[13:16] <codephobic> k, will try the default player.
[13:17] <usr13> codephobic: You are probably right, it's a video-card/video-driver issue.
[13:17] <codephobic> but I'm just a little bummed that it gives me 'worse' performance than the on-board Radeon HD 3000 chip
[13:17] <caboose885> chunkyhead: what firewall are you using?
[13:18] <usr13> codephobic: I'm sure you are. Not sure what the problem is.... but just wondering if it might be a  hardware issue, probably not but...
[13:19] <usr13> chunkyhead: What exactly are you wanting or needing to do?
[13:19] <codephobic> just had a go with the default video player - it's even worse (tried watching Terminator Salvation @ 720p)
[13:20] <usr13> codephobic: From CLI?
[13:20] <codephobic> usr13, I'm not really sure how I would go about diagnosing it. the flg_gears program worked fine
[13:20] <usr13> codephobic: Did you see any output indicating what the touble is?
[13:20] <codephobic> usr13, nothing in the way of warnings or conflicts or failures.
[13:21] <usr13> codephobic: Run a video player from a terminal window and watch the output.
[13:21] <codephobic> usr13, I was actually very surprised at how "smooth" the process was, from downloading the drivers to installing them.
[13:21] <codephobic> k
[13:21] <usr13> codephobic: What did you download and install?
[13:22] <Ezio_o> #ubuntu-cn
[13:24] <codephobic> usr13, I followed the instructions here: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Raring_Installation_Guide
[13:25] <codephobic> specifically the "Installing Catalyst Manually (from AMD/ATI's site)" section
[13:25] <codephobic> usr13, so far no warnings or other messages from vlc running from terminal.
[13:26] <usr13> codephobic: Try mplayer
[13:27] <Kimberley_> Hey I'm having trouble getting my webcam mike to work consistently with 13.04.
[13:27] <usr13> codephobic: pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   #Let's take a look at the xorg.conf file.
[13:28] <codephobic> usr13, sorry went to the door (leaflets people)
[13:28] <usr13> codephobic: pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   #Let's take a look at the xorg.conf file.
[13:28] <Ezio-0> say usr13
[13:29] <codephobic> mplayer is working fine too
[13:29] <usr13> codephobic: fglrxinfo | pastebinit  #Let's look at that too.
[13:29] <codephobic> usr13,  ah, ok I'll try that
[13:29] <Skaag> how come empathy sucks so bad? people chat with me, it doesn't open new chat windows
[13:29] <Skaag> I have to manually click their names in the list to open a chat tab with them
[13:29] <usr13> codephobic: "mplayer is working fine"?
[13:30] <codephobic> usr13, I don't have an xorg.conf file.
[13:30] <codephobic> usr13, I mean that terminal isn't presenting any warnings etc.
[13:31] <usr13> codephobic: According to http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Raring_Installation_Guide  you're supposed to.  If you followed those instructions, you would have an xorg.conf file.  So what about fglrxinfo ?
[13:32] <codephobic> usr13, http://pastebin.com/rCcjiZ5u
[13:32] <codephobic> usr13, ah, I thought that section was only for use if catalyst presented any errors
[13:32] <Shiggs|i5-2500k> Hello
[13:32] <codephobic> my fault for misreading the document.
[13:33] <Shiggs|i5-2500k> Has anyone here successfully ported Ubuntu Touch to the HTC EVO 3D?
[13:33] <usr13> codephobic: reading....
[13:33] <Shiggs|i5-2500k> I'm downloading a Kubuntu 11.10 VBox image to try and do it myself
[13:34] <codephobic> usr13, I'll complete the xorg part and then see how things go.
[13:34] <alex_653> i have a creative usb sound blaster play working quite well, but the scaling of the volume seems somewhat wrong. in alsamixer, everything is fine, but what equals volume = 0 in alsamixer, is about 40% in the audio settings of the upper panel in ubuntu - any ideas how to fix that?
[13:35] <usr13> codephobic: "If you're having issues with tearing, make sure that "Tear Free Video" is on."
[13:35] <Shiggs|i5-2500k> Usiing this guide/wiki:
[13:35] <Shiggs|i5-2500k> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Building
[13:36] <codephobic> usr13, thanks I guess I was too quick to leave it at just installing catalyst ...
[13:36] <codephobic> thanks for the help. will let you know if everything's sorted afterwards.
[13:36] <codephobic> cya
[13:36] <codephobic> \quit
[13:36] <codephobic> \close
[13:38] <usr13> alex_653: What about PCM?
[13:39] <usr13> alex_653: I don't know, but would assume that you are looking at levels of two differen control channels.
[13:40] <Shiggs|i5-2500k> Anyone?
[13:40] <usr13> alex_653: (Labeling may not be the same.)
[13:40] <alex_653> usr13: well, i just have one option for adjusting it
[13:41] <usr13> !touch | Shiggs|i5-2500k
[13:41] <zipy> Shiggs|i5-2500k, what r u trying, put kubuntu on the phone?
[13:41] <usr13> alex_653: So turn it up or down and see which control channel in alsamixer gets changed.
[13:42] <alex_653> usr13: there's just one (speaker)
[13:42] <zhaotongxue> How to deal with Error 0xc000007
[13:43] <zipy> thats an adress
[13:43] <zhaotongxue> I heard that it's because of Secure Boot
[13:43] <Kimberley_> I'm running 13.04 and having trouble getting my webcam mike to work. It's a Logitech model, and when I try to do Google Hangouts with my friends, the mike will work for a few minutes and then stop picking anything up. I've checked the Google and computer settings to make sure the mike is selected.
[13:43] <zhaotongxue> But I don't know how to install both window8 and linux
[13:43] <usr13> alex_653: What I'm saying is, place alsamixer and the GUI mixer side by side.  Run the volume up and down on the GUI mixer and see which channel is being changed in AlsaMixer.  Also, check to see that the Card / Chip are same listed on each.
[13:44] <zhaotongxue> ?
[13:44] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:44] <Nach0z> zhaotongxue: the trick is typically to install windows first, then linux.
[13:44] <usr13> alex_653: And I don't know what you mean by, "there's just one (speaker)".
[13:44] <zhaotongxue> It's all because of microsoft?
[13:44] <alex_653> usr13: in pavucontrol "speaker" is the only output port available. if i change that, the "speaker" bar in alsamixer also changes and vice versa
[13:45] <BluesKaj> alex_653, what's your audio chip in alsamixer ?
[13:46] <usr13> alex_653: Ok, well, I've yet to see a "speaker" bar, so I don't know.  What video card is it again?
[13:46] <alex_653> usr13: USB Device 0x41e:0x30d3
[13:46] <zhaotongxue> by
[13:46] <alex_653> video card?
[13:46] <usr13> alex_653: lsusb  or lspci  Tell us the output.
[13:47] <alex_653> usr13: lsusb: Creative Technology, Ltd Sound Blaster Play!
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> zhengyi: Win8 first but leave unpartitioned space, then boot to Ubuntu install CD and install Ubuntu to the free space
[13:49] <usr13> alex_653: I've never had a USB audio device. I don't know.  Maybe someone else knows something about it.
[13:49] <hacktus0> hello evrybody I have a problem in network I want my computer (ubuntu13.04) accept a connection of ipv4 (because is for socket).Can you help me ???
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> alex_653: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[13:50] <usr13> hacktus0: Accept what kind of connection?
[13:50] <usr13> hacktus0: (Please re-state your question.)
[13:50] <alex_653> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=3702c1c65518ae6cd27148d714675c7485d55caf
[13:51] <alex_653> usr13: thanks anyway for taking some time
[13:51] <usr13> alex_653: NP
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> alex_653: and you want to use the USB audio?
[13:51] <alex_653> ActionParsnip: yes
[13:52] <alex_653> ActionParsnip: i'm already using it, but the adjusting it's volume isn't working correctly
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> alex_653: how are you altering it?
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> alex_653: is the right device set for output in the sound app in dash as well as in alsamixer?
[13:53] <alex_653> ActionParsnip: the slider in the upper panel - or via volume buttons on my keyboard
[13:54] <alex_653> ActionParsnip: I guess. If I change the volume in alsamixer, it's also changing in the panel's slider and vice versa - but unequally
[13:54] <hacktus0> usr13: I have creat a application for socket in C. But when I do the connection with my IPv4 the appli write connexion refused ;But when I do wit 127.0.0.1 the apply  do what can I want.
[13:56] <Shiggs|i5-2500k> No one at all has attempted such?
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> Shiggs|i5-2500k  attempted what?
[13:56] <usr13> hacktus0: What is your native language?
[13:56] <hacktus0> usr13: fr
[13:56] <usr13> !fr | hacktus0
[13:57] <Vanamonde> hello. how to run Disk Utility? Are there a command for terminal? i need to delete unnecessary OS
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> alex_653: is there an option for what the slider changes in a right click menu at all?
[13:58] <amirhosseinyegan> hello
[13:58] <usr13> Vanamonde: Which OS do you want to remove?
 lubuntu
[13:59] <lag> Test
[13:59] <alex_653> ActionParsnip: at least I can't find one. pavucontrol is also only offering one option: "speaker"
[13:59] <Vanamonde> I use xubuntu
[13:59] <usr13> Vanamonde: Is it installed separately?  (Or did you install lubuntu-desktop?)
 separately
[14:00] <alex_653> ActionParsnip: just to make sure: in alsamixer adjusting the volume works correctly
 I install disk utility already. I just don't know how to run it
[14:00] <mersennedod> !list
[14:01] <Vanamonde> i am newbie :(
[14:01] <snufft> stupid question. in ubuntu, i have putty open and am using vi through the putty session. how can i paste something from my ubuntu machine (ie, copying from a web page) into putty/vi?
[14:01] <mersennedod> !list
[14:01] <ton_y> Hi, I need to know how to install packages from the server version of landscape?
[14:01] <gotwig> where can I get support for the Ubuntu Edge?
[14:01] <ikonia> snufft: higlight and middle click
[14:01] <usr13> Vanamonde: Ok, well there are a couple things you would need to do. 1) Delete the partition(s) lubuntu is on.  2) Reclaim the space for other partitions (as you see fit).  3) Change the boot-loader so that it no longer lists the option for booting lubuntu install.
[14:02] <snufft> ikonia, thanks for the reply, but i'm copying from a website and pasting into putty, not copying and pasting within the same putty window?
[14:02] <ikonia> snufft: yes, so hilight the text on the website, and middle click the putty window
[14:03] <ton_y> I've asked the question on SE: http://askubuntu.com/questions/323122/how-do-i-install-packages-from-landscape, no bites though
[14:04] <snufft> ikonia, putty's not playing dice :( the text is definitely on my clipboard, just pasted it into gedit, but nothing happens on the putty side when i try and paste there
[14:04] <usr13> Vanamonde: The first thing to do is to [correctly] identify which partition(s) need to be deleted.  The second thing to do is figure out which one(s) you want to expand.  One problem you will run into is if the Lubuntu partition(s) are not at the end of the drive, some confiration changes will need to be made in at least one (or more) of the installed OS's as well as the boot-loader (grub's) configuration.  (It is not a simple process.)
[14:05] <usr13> Vanamonde: Actually, blkids will take care of one aspect of the above issues, but not sure about grub.
[14:05] <usr13> (May take care of it... I dono.)
[14:05] <alexThunder> ActionParsnip: sorry, my machine just hung up. if you said something since my last post, would you like to repeat it? ^^
[14:06] <Shiggs|i5-2500k> zipy, no.. I want to try Ubuntu Touch after learning of the Ubuntu Edge
[14:06] <usr13> Vanamonde: At any rate, someone elese will have to advise you because I must leave now.
[14:06] <zipy> isnt touch for tablets?
[14:07] <Shiggs|i5-2500k> it's for phones too I though
[14:07] <Shiggs|i5-2500k> t
[14:07] <Shiggs|i5-2500k> Ubuntu Phone OS
[14:07] <zipy> but the edge will come with ubuntu phone or not
[14:07] <Shiggs|i5-2500k> it will
[14:07] <Shiggs|i5-2500k> if it's a phone
[14:07] <Shiggs|i5-2500k> of which it will be
 thank a lot!
[14:08] <zipy> well i would wait anyways
[14:08] <zipy> its not official yet
[14:08] <zipy> just for developers
[14:08] <Shiggs|i5-2500k> I know but the Evo3D (aka shooter) is out of date now, and I'd like to play with it again
[14:09] <antarus> is there a page for minimum or recommended requirements for using Unity?
[14:09] <antarus> (system requirements?)
[14:09] <usr13> Vanamonde: B4 I go, I might also tell you that using Ubuntu's LiveCD will probably be your best tool in the process.  And, if those partitions are not at the end of the drive, and you just shrink them down to almost 0 and resize the others as you see fit, you will basically reclaim the space without making any other changes, other than re-configuring grub to not show the option to boot Lubuntu, (that is, if you even care that it shows an extra option).
[14:09] <Shiggs|i5-2500k> http://www.droidevs.com/showthread.php?t=1107 <== That's for the HTC Sensation 4G, but that's essentially the same as the Evo 3D
[14:10] <Shiggs|i5-2500k> Sen4G = TMo Evo 3D basically
[14:10] <antarus> I found https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/i386/minimum-hardware-reqts.html which is laughable
[14:12] <ton_y> help appreciated: http://askubuntu.com/questions/323122/how-do-i-install-packages-from-landscape
[14:12] <ton_y> that's for the server version of landscape
[14:12] <usr13> Vanamonde: One other thing.  If the Lubuntu partition(s) are at the end of the drive, that is a very good thing.  But, If they are not, the partition manager will take a long time moving data in some cases, so beware, don't think it is broken and not doing anything, it will take a long time and you will need to be patient.  AND, back up your data, it is not altogether safe process.
[14:13] <mouse> would it be okay to ask for help about a Debian system here? I know it's the ubuntu specific irc but, debian's seems kinda dead.
[14:14] <Vanamonde> lubuntu was last installed OS
[14:14] <holstein> mouse: sorry, this is the ubntu specific support channel.. you can try a debian forum or mailing list ?
[14:15] <holstein> ton_y: should be the same... ubuntuserver is ubuntu, and they all share the same repos
[14:16] <ton_y> holstein i know how to do it via apt-get, but I don't want to have to go to each machine to manage the packages
[14:16] <ton_y> the desktop version of landscape allows the users to install packages through the web dashboard, but the server version doesn't seem to work
[14:17] <holstein> ton_y: if the question is "where is the server version", the same version for the desktop should work, since its available in the repos, if thats where you got the other one
[14:18] <ton_y> holstein, I have the server version installed, i also have the server version on landscape installed, the landscape dashboard, according to the docs, allows me to run apt-get and manage packages for all my registered machines
[14:18] <INeedHelp> I have a Acer Aspire E1-522-5659 and everything works very well, except the touchpad which doesn't. It shows up, and when I try and move around it fails to sync, and is incredibly slow. Also can't left or right-click, let alone tap on anything to select it. Can someone please help?
[14:18] <holstein> ton_y: i know folks use puppet for that as well http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/tutorials/puppet-server-management
[14:18] <holstein> ton_y: that is correct
[14:18] <ton_y> holstein, however, whats on the screen doesn't match what's on the docs
[14:19] <holstein> ton_y: AFAIK, that is a commercial offering, correct?
[14:19] <ton_y> holstein, yes, i was thinking about having the company I work for purchase it, but I'm running the trial right now, which does not include any support
[14:20] <holstein> ton_y: AFAIK, it "just works"... desktop or server wouldnt matter
[14:20] <holstein> ton_y: we are not able to support it here since its not available to us to use
[14:21] <zero_coder> hey, need some help setting up lampserver
[14:21] <Loknar> woot I fixed my no headphone audio output problem :D
[14:21] <holstein> !lamp
[14:21] <holstein> zero_coder: ^
[14:21] <Loknar> hey guys
[14:22] <Loknar> this worked for no sound coming from headphones
[14:22] <Loknar> http://linux-al.blogspot.com/2012/05/headphones-not-working-no-sound-under.html
[14:22] <zero_coder> holstein, its showing aptitude failed(100)
[14:22] <INeedHelp> Can anyone help me out with my touchpad issue?
[14:22] <holstein> zero_coder: it?
[14:23] <zero_coder> tasksel
[14:23] <zero_coder> sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[14:23] <holstein> zero_coder: i would run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" then try the lamp config
[14:23] <ton_y> holstein, thanks i was hoping someone here experience with it.
[14:23] <zero_coder> holstein, okay. let me try
[14:24] <holstein> ton_y: the experience i have is that it either "just works" or you get commercial support making sure that it works
[14:25] <wewe98> ciao
[14:26] <wewe98> !list
[14:26] <arash> Hello , I have a problem
[14:26] <arash> my drivers doesn't seem to work correctly on ubuntu 13.04
[14:26] <holstein> INeedHelp: just ask, with details
[14:26] <arash> my device is an acer d257 netbook
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> arash: drivers for what?
[14:27] <arash> I guess video drivers
[14:27] <INeedHelp> holstein: i did. I have a Acer Aspire E1-522-5659 and everything works very well, except the touchpad which doesn't. It shows up, and when I try and move around it fails to sync, and is incredibly slow. Also can't left or right-click, let alone tap on anything to select it.
[14:27] <holstein> arash: is the issue relating to the graphics card?
[14:27] <arash> yes most probably
[14:27] <INeedHelp> holstein: just let me know what you need for me to look up or do and I will
[14:27] <holstein> arash: confirm that by using the graphics card, and reporting *exactly* the issue
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> arash  what brings you here?
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> arash: what video chip does it use?
[14:28] <arash> how can I do that ? Im new to 13.04
[14:28] <arash> I guess intel
[14:28] <arash> inside
[14:28] <holstein> arash: what makes you think its the graphics issue?
[14:28] <arash> let me check
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> arash: then how can you apply video drivers when you don't know the GPU?
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> arash: seems silly don't you think
[14:28] <arash> the OS must detect and install the driver , shouldnt It ?
[14:29] <holstein> arash: usually folks would say "when i boot the machine and i get a black screen" or "the graphics are tearing" ..etc
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> arash: not necessarily, the proprietary drivers are not in a default install for example
[14:29] <arash> the system is running very slow
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> arash: press CTRL+ALT+T and run:  sudo lshw -C display     type your password (you will get no feedback) and hit ENTER
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> arash: what video chip do you have?
[14:30] <holstein> arash: i dont use unity or gnome3 or anything requiring 3d on my netbooks.. could be that the hardware is just not up to the overhead of main ubuntu
[14:30] <arash> PCI sysfs is the driver
[14:30] <holstein> arash: you can try xubuntu or lubuntu live
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> arash: wait, your PCI bus is slow
[14:31] <chunkyhead> anyone who knows about dmz pls pm me
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: try in ##networking
[14:31] <arash> lol the details :
[14:31] <arash> Intel running @ 33mhz
[14:31] <arash> !!
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> arash: we just need the product line
[14:31] <chunkyhead> ActionParsnip: why the double #
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: its what it uses, similarly ##windows is a channel
[14:31] <arash> Acer AspireOne D257
[14:32] <chunkyhead> ActionParsnip: woa! didnt know. thanks btw!
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> arash: no, in the output of the command I gave, what is the product line
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> arash: read your output
[14:32] <arash> Atom N570
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> arash: does the system have internet access?
[14:32] <arash> yes It does
[14:32] <arash> If not how am I here ?
[14:32] <holstein> arash: on another machine, perhaps
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> arash: you could have TWO systems.....
[14:33] <holstein> !volunteers | arash
[14:33] <BluesKaj> 0chu dmz is dangerous , that's what I know , you'd bertter know what you're doing and have your fws and other security options working
[14:33] <BluesKaj> chunkyhead,^
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> arash: run:   sudo apt-get install pastebinit; clear; sudo lshw -C display | pastebinit
[14:33] <arash> wait
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> arash: what is the URL generated?
[14:34] <arash> Its downloading the packages
[14:34] <arash> wait
[14:34] <c333222> wha
[14:34] <c333222> what
[14:35] <c333222> why
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> c333222  it works, you'rfe in
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> you're*
[14:35] <arash> btw , this pastebin is awesome
[14:36] <arash> what a great program
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> arash: very, should be default installed imho
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> arash: what is the URL please
[14:36] <arash> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5904304/
[14:36] <chewed-on> Ubuntu phone ?
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> !phone
[14:36] <chewed-on> It better come with Super Tux!
[14:36] <chewed-on> preinstalled
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> arash: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[14:37] <arash> wai
[14:37] <arash> t
[14:38] <arash> 13.04 n l
[14:38] <arash> and nothing more
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> arash: you dont have to say "wait" each time
[14:39] <ilikepie641> Dang it....
[14:39] <arash> Actionparsnip , I will install the updates including updaters and give the results here
[14:39] <asdk> hi guys can someone please help me run my sh script on startup?
[14:40] <asdk> !help?
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> asdk  use crontab, add a @reboot entry
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> arash: is the OS fully updated?
[14:40] <arash> not yet
[14:40] <arash> I am currently working on updates
[14:40] <ilikepie641> Anyone here have any idea why my linux live dvd keeps disconnecting from my wifi after 5 min of boot?
[14:41] <ilikepie641> My mint 15 livedvd wors fine >.>
[14:41] <arash> I have 1mbps connection here :-(
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> arash: good, get fully updated and then reboot, let us know how you go
[14:41] <asdk> @monkeydust whats crontab?
[14:41] <asdk> :)?
[14:41] <arash> ofc , I really like to be a part of ubuntu development
[14:42] <somsip> !contribute | arash
[14:42] <arash> I've used ubuntu since 12.04 but this 13.04 is a little bit different
[14:42] <INeedHelp> Brb
[14:43] <asdk> ok i just looked into crontab @monkeydust
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> asdk  it's a scheduler, to automatically execute programs at certain times
[14:43] <asdk> but it doesnt say you can add in a reboot entry
[14:43] <asdk> it only accept time values
[14:44] <asdk> i want to shut down the system and start it up and it will execute the script
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> asdk  yes, instead of a time value, you can use   @reboot [command or script]
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> arash: 13.04 is only supported til January 2014..just so you are aware
[14:46] <arash> Its ok , I will update to the next version
[14:46] <arash> ActionParsnip the next version will be released till that time
[14:46] <LucidDreamZzZ> which is the ubuntu software center?
[14:47] <LucidDreamZzZ> binary
[14:47] <krz> how do i know which versions of tmux is available in the package maanger?
[14:47] <excesseye> exit
[14:47] <LucidDreamZzZ> ugh no useful menu
[14:47] <somsip> !info tmux | krz
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> krz  apt-cache search [package]
[14:48] <LucidDreamZzZ> meh aptitude works
[14:48] <arash> is there any GUI alternative to HTOP ?
[14:48] <somsip> krz: or apt-cache madison tmux, if you did mean version*s*
[14:49] <LucidDreamZzZ> arash, no
[14:49] <LucidDreamZzZ> ncurses ftw
[14:49] <krz> only 1.7?? what happened to 1.8?
[14:49] <krz> where is the ppa for tmux 1.8?
[14:49] <somsip> !ppa | krz
[14:49] <krz> its been out for a few months already
[14:51] <arash> I am facing another problem here with this netbook , firefox options is not opened properly , I can't see the Apply/Ok/Cancel on the bottom
[14:52] <krz> somsip: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tmux has an offical tmux ppa. how do i use this?
[14:52] <arash> Resolution 1024x600
[14:52] <ss_haze> does steam has it's own irc?
[14:52] <Halyard> arash: turning off firefox's 'addon" bar helps
[14:53] <OerHeks> ss_haze, sure, join #ubuntu-steam
[14:53] <arash> @halyard I turned of navi bar , and the addon bar wasn't open , still the same
[14:53] <kris> czesc
[14:55] <Halyard> arash, I do have the same problem as well especially with my netbook
[14:55] <krz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tmux/+bug/1169256 says tmux 1.8 has been released for ubuntu (Apr 2013). why am i only seeing 1.7?
[14:55] <krz> im on ubuntu 10.04 btw. dont know if that matters
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> !latest | krz here's why
[14:57] <kris> hello spiking in polisz du yu
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> !pl
[14:57] <krz> MonkeyDust: well thats a bit ironic
[14:57] <krz> MonkeyDust: ubuntu isnt stable. if it aims for stability
[14:57] <honvai> Why i can not install cdemu?
[14:57] <kris> ok
[14:58] <krz> i get a few errors now and again. possibly hardware issues
[14:58] <arash> @krz : no OS is completely stable , Ubuntu is good enough
[14:58] <krz> 2nd the ubuntu forums are down
[14:58] <krz> arash: not exactly. osx is great!
[14:58] <krz> love it
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> krz  please don't start
[14:59] <rhalffX> hi, I get 'Write failed: broken pipe' when I ssh to a server with my normal user, but the weird thing is, at least for me, when I ssh to the server with root the connection is ok.
[14:59] <Loknar> I got my ubuntu all setup now
[14:59] <polysics> hello! I just compiled a bunch of updated Asterisk packages
[14:59] <arash> OSX doesn't have this GUI
[14:59] <Loknar> everything works.
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> krz  stick to support questions, please
[14:59] <Loknar> I have sound and all. I am happy.
[14:59] <krz> fine
[14:59] <honvai> Why i can not install cdemu in terminal?
[14:59] <polysics> OSX is good. I used Ubuntu for 7 years, but I am working fine on a Mac
[14:59] <Loknar> quake is win btw
[14:59] <Loknar> Guake*
[15:00] <polysics> so, I have this set of packages we made - how do I make it into a repo, if there's a quick way?
[15:00] <polysics> not my code, not my packages - just a rebuild of Asterisk 11
[15:00] <krz> MonkeyDust: how do i add the PPA for tmux 1.8?
[15:00] <arash> another question , Is there any way I can download and install steam without giving my purchase info?
[15:00] <INeedHelp> Touchpad is still acting weird. dmesg keeps saying "psmouse serio1: Touchpad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 6"
[15:00] <Loknar> not to self: don't type /list on freenode ever again.
[15:01] <Loknar> hmm... my touchpad works just fine
[15:01] <cheesecakes> hello
[15:01] <Loknar> but then again, that was "out of the box"
[15:01] <polysics> I don't even think I can use a PPA as I don't own the sources
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> INeedHelp: what make and model system?
[15:01] <LucidDreamZzZ> can you hold alt and drag window?
[15:01] <cheesecakes> i get error:permission denied when i try to download torrents using transmission-daemon
[15:01] <Loknar> what does alt+drag supposed to do?
[15:01] <INeedHelp> ActionParsnip: Acer Aspire E1-522-5659
[15:01] <cheesecakes> my download dir and info dir are both 777
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> Loknar: its a standard Xorg, thing. Allows you to drag from anywhere
[15:02] <INeedHelp> ActionParsnip: Anything you need me to try? I really need this to work :(
[15:02] <honvai> Why terminal can not locate cdemu?
[15:02] <arash> check the files
[15:02] <LucidDreamZzZ> Loknar, nm it doesnt work im sure
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> INeedHelp: why was that not in the initial question?
[15:02] <Loknar> oh, yep it works
[15:02] <arash> run transmission using sudo
[15:02] <LucidDreamZzZ> it do?? hahah
[15:02] <Loknar> :D
[15:02] <cheesecakes> arash: its a daemon
[15:02] <Loknar> i'm using gnome 3 from ubuntu repos
[15:02] <INeedHelp> ActionParsnip: I've brought it up a couple times
[15:02] <Loknar> ahh feels so clean
[15:03] <cheesecakes> anyone has any more clues?
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> INeedHelp: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:03] <INeedHelp> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> INeedHelp: try:  echo "options psmouse proto=imps" | sudo tee /et/modprobe.d/touchpadfix.conf > /dev/null
[15:04] <INeedHelp> ActionParsnip: Takes me to a > prompt
[15:04] <honvai> apt do not locate cdemu pack. why?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> INeedHelp: then you didn't copy it all as one command, which is what it is
[15:04] <th0r> ActionParsnip, (/etC/modprobe.d/.....)
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> INeedHelp: sorry, typo
[15:04] <derf-> Anyone know if I have to do something special to use unicode fonts in 13.04?   I'm trying to get vim powerline working in gnome terminal, with the patched fonts, and all I see are little blocks of 4 numbers in a grid where I should have the little arrow symbols.   I'm pretty sure I have some sub-set of unicode, because gnome terminal properly rendered Pitel_IPEX's quit message just there.
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> INeedHelp: try:  echo "options psmouse proto=imps" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/touchpadfix.conf > /dev/null
[15:05] <LucidDreamZzZ> !fvwm2
[15:05] <LucidDreamZzZ> way bettar than gnome
[15:05] <INeedHelp> Ok, did it
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> LucidDreamZzZ: I'm an openbox kid :)
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> INeedHelp: ok, reboot
[15:05] <INeedHelp> One moment
[15:05] <LucidDreamZzZ> hehe right :)
[15:05] <derf-> I've gotten this working successfully on another 13.04 box, but that machine was upgraded from a previous install of 12.10, and the one that isn't working is a clean install.
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> LucidDreamZzZ: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/24thJune2013.png  openbox + tint2 + idesk + conky
[15:06] <LucidDreamZzZ> ActionParsnip, thats tight
[15:06] <LucidDreamZzZ> hmm
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> LucidDreamZzZ: tint2 is hidden
[15:07] <xMopxShell> part
[15:07] <xMopxShell> oops
[15:08] <LucidDreamZzZ> ActionParsnip, may have to explore that setup
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> I can give the conkyrc if you want
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> LucidDreamZzZ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5904420/
[15:09] <polysics> waht's the best way to set up a simple web-based personal repository, please?
[15:10] <LucidDreamZzZ> it's ok i havent used conkey in a while i like the minimalist look
[15:10] <polysics> is there any service for that, even?
[15:10] <LucidDreamZzZ> nice thanks
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> polysics: http://www.packtpub.com/article/create-local-ubuntu-repository-using-apt-mirror-apt-cacher
[15:10] <cheesecakes> any ideas?
[15:11] <LucidDreamZzZ> conkey used to not be so good for my old pc, was using gkrellm instead
[15:11] <LucidDreamZzZ> may check into it
[15:11] <polysics> ActionParsnip: wouldn't that be a local repo though?
[15:12] <Loknar> hmm... how to add custom launcher in gnome 3?
[15:12] <Loknar> sec.. google
[15:12] <pranav> when is ubuntu support be online again ?
[15:13] <Loknar> alacarte does it still :)
[15:13] <DJones> pranav: We don't know when the forums will be back up, you could join #ubuntuforums and ask there, they may have an update
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> pranav  as soon as the issues are solved
[15:13] <pranav> ok.. thanks
[15:17] <FundyChristian> Attention everyone! if you dont REPENT GOD WILL KILL YOU and SEND YOU TO HELL!
[15:17] <FundyChristian> !ops | Attention everyone! if you dont REPENT GOD WILL KILL YOU and SEND YOU TO HELL!
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> polysics: oh, you want a PPA?
[15:18] <pranav> has any1 taken responsibility about the hack ?
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> pranav: try in #ubuntuforums
[15:18] <bostonian__> Is there a way to move & overwrite a folder without overwriting a certain sub folder? (E.g., move /tmp/www to /var/www without overwriting the /var/www/uploads directory)
[15:18] <pranav> sure..
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> bostonian__: you could use rsync with an exclude option
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> bostonian__: or copy the folder out, do the large copy then copy the folder back in
[15:20] <LucidDreamZzZ> ubuntuforums.com still down
[15:20] <bostonian__> ActionParsnip: hmm, good ideas. It never occurred to me that rsync could be used this way! I'm trying it out right now
[15:20] <LucidDreamZzZ> who the fsck did it do they know yet?
[15:20] <cheesecakes> anyone on transmission-daemon?
[15:20] <Pici> LucidDreamZzZ: #ubuntu is our support channel. If you want to talk about the forums you can join #ubuntuforums
[15:22] <cloneG> hello I would like to know whether it is possible to shutdown the system and set a timer for it to power on and then to shutdown again...a sort of automatic switcher
[15:22] <Wulf> Yo
[15:22] <Wulf> is there a tool to calibrate my synaptics touchpad?
[15:23] <Wulf> like setting sensitivity, corners, etc.
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> cloneG: you can use 'at'. use it with sudo and you can shutdown at a certain time
[15:23] <cloneG> I think the hibernate function and an alarm clock would do but I dont really know how the hibernate function works would anyone explain?
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> cloneG  sounds like a sort of Wake On Lan, you need access to the BIOS for that
[15:24] <LucidDreamZzZ> Pici, okie ty dnk that # existed
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> cloneG: you will need to tell the BIOS to power on if you power down fully
[15:24] <cloneG> fully?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> cloneG: as in off off
[15:24] <cloneG> what the hibernate function keeps on?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> cloneG: you can hibernate but it will still use power, just a lot less
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> cloneG  hibernate saves the session to disk,  suspend saves the session to RAM
[15:26] <cloneG> could I use the computer as an alarm clock?
[15:26] <cloneG> and get it ready to work
[15:26] <cloneG> auto starting some programs for instance
[15:27] <cloneG> I use a screenlet called clock
[15:27] <cloneG> and I can set an alarm and a program to start but it wont stop suspend mode
[15:28] <philinux> cloneG: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/alarm-clock-applet/
[15:29] <cloneG> nice applet but it doesnt say what happens when computer is switched off
[15:29] <Pici> cloneG: What do you think happens if the computer is off?
[15:29] <cloneG> nothing
[15:29] <Pici> There you go.
[15:29] <cloneG> thats the point
[15:30] <cloneG> I want it to start the computer
[15:30] <cloneG> the system
[15:30] <pabl0s> hello all
[15:32] <butch128> I have an ubuntu 12.04 desktop, and am having issue with my network "hanging" every few minutes.  It's causing my SSH to drop etc.  Any idea how I can debug it?  Other devices on my network are acting fine.
[15:33] <joseph_mitre> Hi, can i install ubuntu without usb or cd from an ISO?
[15:33] <joseph_mitre> I mean, all I have is my hard disk. No USB or CD.
[15:33] <joseph_mitre> If there is any way, please direct me.
[15:33] <joseph_mitre> Btw, I'm right now using Ubuntu 12.10
[15:33] <cloneG> I found a thread but it seems ubuntuforums is having problems these days: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/alarm-clock-applet/
[15:33] <cloneG> I just cant open it
[15:34] <Pici> cloneG: the forums are temporarily down.
[15:34] <MonkeyDust> cloneG  ubuntuforums is down for maintenance
[15:34] <LucidDreamZzZ> joseph_mitre, you could try PXE thats how i installed
[15:34] <cloneG> that applet...
[15:34] <cloneG> okay
[15:34] <joseph_mitre> LucidDreamZzZ, PXE?
[15:35] <LucidDreamZzZ> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[15:35] <joseph_mitre> Can you please give me any web links for the same?
[15:35] <Frogging|work> Is it possible to make a file, like a python script, accessible from anywhere without specifying the full path? So I can just run "python script.py" from anywhere?
[15:35] <LucidDreamZzZ> ^
[15:35] <joseph_mitre> ok, thanks.
[15:35] <joseph_mitre> :)
[15:35] <LucidDreamZzZ> no problemo
[15:35] <hans_henrik> does ubuntu edge support flash*?
[15:35] <LucidDreamZzZ> :)
[15:36] <Pici> hans_henrik: You'll have to ask the folks in #ubuntu-touch
[15:36] <hans_henrik> touch? isn't it edge?
[15:36] <joseph_mitre> LucidDreamZzZ, I'm not connected to any LAN. :(
[15:37] <joseph_mitre> I want to install it in my machine itself.
[15:37] <joseph_mitre> Into another partition.
[15:37] <Pici> hans_henrik: its running touch, we don't have the edge channel setup properly yet.
[15:38] <LucidDreamZzZ> joseph_mitre, that i am not sure of
[15:38] <LucidDreamZzZ> most distros support some form of HDD installation option
[15:38] <joseph_mitre> Frogging|work, put it in any of your PATH. Give it executable permission, you can then type "script.py"
[15:38] <LucidDreamZzZ> ugh gtg hth
[15:39] <pabl0s> if I install xubuntu-desktop to have a more light desktop manager, is it the same to install xfce or xfce run over gnome ?!?
[15:39] <joseph_mitre> LucidDreamZzZ: The problem is that my DVD drive as well as USB ports are dead, a bad motherboard it seems.
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> joseph_mitre: Frogging|work: or remove the obsolte extension and run "script"
[15:40] <Frogging|work> Okay, thanks :)
[15:40] <pabl0s> pls answer, I have a low-power netbook with atom2600 cpu
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> pabl0s: xfce4 is the package, you will select it as the session from lightdm
[15:40] <Loknar> try xubuntu minimal install (alternative install)
[15:41] <Loknar> then sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[15:41] <pabl0s> ActionParsnip, : lightdm is the program to log on into x-system ?
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> pabl0s: yes, you choose the session there at login
[15:41] <u1210> How to change a partition to 'extended"?
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> u1210: you'll need to delete a partition then make an extended partition in the free space, you can then make logical partitions in it
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> u1210  backup first, if you start changing partitions
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> u1210: you can take a full backup before deleting the partition then restore to the logical partition
[15:43] <pabl0s> yes, I know, but only I thinked that down run gnome and over xfce
[15:43] <pabl0s> I choosed xfce at log on
[15:43] <u1210> sounds good. But after I delete a partition and try to make an ext one, it only allows me to make a primary one
[15:44] <pabl0s> 'cause I have same problem with gma3600 driver
[15:44] <pabl0s> so, I installed the amd64 version with GPL gma500 driver from legend programmer alan cox
 it only allows a primary part. The ext option is gryed ou
[15:46] <pabl0s> so , the video is more fast that gma3600 x32 driver from intel, but in complex the system is little slow, expecially the video decoding , for examples flash hd video
[15:46] <joseph_mitre> LucidDreamZzZ, How about this idea, a bit crazy I know, I "install" my iso to one of my empty hard disk partitions, say /dev/sda5, having a size of 8GB, using Unetbootin. I then select that partition at boot time and then it will start a live session (I hope so). Then I can install Ubuntu to any other partition that is empty. How about that? Seems plausible?
[15:47] <Yann2> Hello - sorry, just needed to let some frustration out. Purchased Ubuntu Advantage support in January (it's I think the 5th year of support I pay since I use Ubuntu). Asked a question yesterday and got this email today http://paste.ubuntu.com/5904532/  . WTF Canonical :'(
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> u1210  probably to avoid using extended partitions only, and to avoid windows to be installed on an extended partition - windows usually sits on /dev/sda1
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> extended / logical ...
[15:52] <u1210> MonkeyDust  Windows already has 3 partitions: boot, unknown and the operating system so :sda1 sda2 sda3. So I need an extended partition to install Ubuntu
[15:53] <pabl0s> u1210, win by default crate 2 partetion ntfs
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> pabl0s: really?
[15:53] <chunkyhead> guys i know ~/ means home of current user, what does ~# mean?
[15:53] <pabl0s> first to recover and boot, second for os
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> pabl0s: never seen that in ALL my years as a windows admin
[15:53] <pabl0s> :D
[15:53] <HoNgOuRu> hi, I want apt-get to remove a large list of packages... there are some packages in the list missing on my system. I want apt-get to continue removing the ones I do have installed.... is there an option for that ?
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> pabl0s: is that in a store bought system by any chance?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> pabl0s: install it yourself, it doesnt do that
[15:54] <pabl0s> no no, leave that
[15:54] <pabl0s> dirty thing win excuse
[15:54] <pabl0s> D
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> ?
[15:54] <u1210> pabl0s  believe me I know what I have Windows has 3 partitions installed with areinstallation dvd from Samsung on this Samsumg laptop
[15:54] <pabl0s> so, xp 2003 server have 1 ntfs
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> pabl0s: if you desire, yes
[15:55] <u1210> pabl0s u prob r right for xp. I have win7 home premium
[15:55] <pabl0s> win7 create 2 , but u may create 3, tipically 2 for os, 3 for program to don't fragmentate ntfs
[15:56] <chunkyhead> what will this mean? which directory am in? user@host:~#
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> pabl0s: you'll find systems with 2 are bought from Dell / Acer / etc, with a recovery set of data, its a real mess. Its not default in Windows, that's just how some companies install it
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: pwd     will show you
[15:56] <pabl0s> sure ntfs is a oldest file system , linux have more more strong file system ext3-4
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> pabl0s: its not oldest at all
[15:56] <chunkyhead> ActionParsnip, the thing is i got a screenshot and i am wondering which directory is that ActionParsnip
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> pabl0s: Fat and Fat16 predate ntfs in a big way
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> chunkyhead  try Pictures
[15:57] <chunkyhead> MonkeyDust, as in?
[15:57] <pabl0s> yes, tipically first partetion is for installation, it have os to install
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> chunkyhead  the Pictures folder
[15:57] <chunkyhead> -_- MonkeyDust
[15:57] <pabl0s> by default from a no-parted disk win7-8 create 2 ntfs
[15:58] <u1210> pabl0s i am not creating anything new. I can shrink the last large partition, make a new one (the 4th one) and try to make it an extended one - but it does not let the ext option is greyed out. Primary it lets me kmake
[15:59] <pabl0s> if u have a multi-boot system win must installed in the 2, first ntfs recover set as boot
[15:59] <pabl0s> after u may install unix-like so as linux, bsd, etc
[15:59] <HoNgOuRu> how do I make apt-get remove skip packages I dont have when removing others
[15:59] <HoNgOuRu> ?
[16:00] <pabl0s> u1210, yes it must be set as exstended , so u may create infinite number of partetion inside the extended
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> pabl0s: its the windows recovery environment from what I read
[16:00] <pabl0s> as fist only 4 patetion are possible
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> HoNgOuRu  is this useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[16:01] <pabl0s> yes, first is recovery created by default in hidden mode
[16:01] <u1210> pabl0s it came like this: /dev/sda1  100mb  used 78  boot
[16:01] <u1210> sda2 unknown  128mb        msftres
[16:01] <u1210> sda3  ntfs   297 used 22 gb  available 275GB  And windows works very well.
[16:02] <LordDeath> is zsh compatible with all bash scripts?
[16:02] <pabl0s> use cfdisk or fidksk
[16:02] <zero_coder> hello
[16:02] <pabl0s> fdisk /dev/sda
[16:02] <pabl0s> p
[16:02] <zero_coder> apache is not working for me
[16:02] <zero_coder> /bin/rm: cannot remove ‘/run/user/root/gvfs’
[16:02] <pabl0s> and read
[16:02] <u1210> I already shrank the last one and win works v well. The 4th partition I need to make extended
[16:03] <pabl0s> shrank it from win ,with its program
[16:03] <pabl0s> unknow flag is strange
[16:04] <pabl0s> win have : ntfs, fat32 fat 16 and little number of hidden type
[16:04] <pabl0s> all recognized from linux
[16:04] <HoNgOuRu> MonkeyDust,  thank you, but that doesn't work for me... I want apt-get to keep going with the removing process of the installed packages... maybe there is an option like force or something like that... thank you anyway
[16:06] <u1210> pabl0s cfdisk or fidksk  I'll try this this or try to shrink fr windows (don't really use win anymore)
[16:07] <pabl0s> many , parted gparted too
[16:08] <pabl0s> linux have a lot of cool program to part disk, don't use fdisk , use cfdisk or parted
[16:08] <pabl0s> fdisk is good to read parted data , not to create it
[16:10] <LucidDreamZzZ> sfdisk -d
[16:10]  * pabl0s u1210 fdisk is a ""dos" like parted program
[16:10] <LucidDreamZzZ> really gtg
[16:10] <pabl0s> yes
[16:10] <LucidDreamZzZ> running cat5 when its hot outside no fun tho
[16:11] <LucidDreamZzZ> ciao
[16:11] <zero_coder> hey, i need some help with lamp
[16:11] <pabl0s> sfdisk is a hacked program, overall when disk was real ciliders sectors
[16:11] <pabl0s> now cil. sectors aren't real
[16:11] <pabl0s> the disk firware lead the disk
[16:11] <Nach0z> cyl
[16:12] <pabl0s> cyl yes
[16:12] <Nach0z> cylinder :P
[16:12] <pabl0s> same thing as usb mem. and other type memory
[16:12] <pabl0s> only old floppy have real cyl. sectors
[16:13] <pabl0s> 3,5" 1,44 2,88 Mb
[16:14] <pabl0s> however to boot correctly dirty win7 , first partetition must be setted as boot
[16:14] <pabl0s> so it don't work
[16:14] <pabl0s> nobody here have experience with gma3600 ?
[16:15] <pabl0s> it's low-entry video card in the atom 2600 , 2800
[16:15] <bibi23> I've launched a command through ssh this afternoon, but it's taking longer than I was expecting, I think it needs like 2 more hours, but I can't wait for it to finish, is there any way I can turn it into a background process while I close my ssh connection?
[16:15] <pabl0s> proprietary drivers are very bad
[16:16] <pabl0s> fg
[16:16] <pabl0s> job , read the number of bg process, afrter type : fg %n
[16:16] <Eagleman> bibi23, use this command: screen
[16:17] <Eagleman> then use cntrl a +d to detach it to the background and reopen it with screen -x ID
[16:19] <bibi23> Eagleman: ok, but I need to open another ssh connection first right (sorry I'm a beginner)? because currently i see the output of the running command.
[16:20] <joshu_> the pop-up notifications in 13.04 is that notify-osd?
[16:20] <joshu_> I want to get them on ubuntu mini, so curious to know what packages to install.
[16:20] <jjavaholic> how do I I scan for external Harddrive and mount it?
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> joshu_  notify-send is a command you can use in ascript
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> in a script*
[16:23] <pabl0s> so anyone have any experience with intel gma video card?
[16:23] <pabl0s> :(
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> pabl0s: have you read through /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:25] <pabl0s> root@1225C:/home/pablo# cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | wc -l
[16:25] <pabl0s> 352
[16:25] <pabl0s> long 352 lines
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> pabl0s: not really, most of it you'll whizz past anyway
[16:26]  * pabl0s ActionParsnip ok....
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> pabl0s: look for (EE) and (WW)
[16:28] <pabl0s> [    18.508] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
[16:28] <pabl0s>         (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
[16:28] <pabl0s>         (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[16:28] <vishnu__> hi
[16:30]  * pabl0s ActionParsnip so must I configure txt file with hands, with vi ?
[16:36] <Skaag> how do calibrate the screen colors? when I open the profiles, the calibrate button is grayed out
[16:41] <Bauer1> guys, I am using Ubuntu Raring 13.04 on my SATA HDD (1TB), and today got new 240GB SSD drive. My linux partition is 105GB ext4, and 10GB SWAP. the rest is media (old NTFS partition)
[16:41] <Bauer1> how do I migrate the linux paritions to the new SSD drive?
[16:42] <Bauer1> I have to point out, I will remove the old SATA hdd  after migration and use it on NAS
[16:43] <ryan_12345> I've finally installed Ubuntu 13.04 on my 2 HDD, now how do I edit the boot loader so I know which OS is which?
[16:43] <popori> hey guys. i have a problem installing ubuntu 12.0.2 and 13.04 on a new  asus notebook. after choosing either install/try ubuntu I get a blank screen
[16:43] <popori> I suspect this is due to the inbuilt graphics card, but I set nomodeset in grub.cfg, the problem still persists
[16:43] <popori> any help would be appreciated on how to go about the installationm
[16:44] <usr13> !nomodeset | popori
[16:45] <pabl0s> Bauer, mount it or risaze it, or ri-part it
[16:45] <pabl0s> sure linux see it if win see it
[16:45] <ryan_12345> usr13: You remember me right, for the other day I successfully installed the OS on my two HDD's
[16:45] <wilee-nilee> popori, THis asus a W8 dualboot?
[16:45] <popori> usr13, as mentioned I set nomodeset in grub.cfg
[16:46] <popori> wilee-nilee, yes
[16:46] <usr13> ryan_12345: Yes
[16:46] <Bauer1> pabl0s: I dont quite follow, mount the SSD, resize it? to what end? I want to move my linux from old hdd to SSD, afterwards I will re-partition the old hdd and use it in NAS only.
[16:46] <ryan_12345> usr13: How are you my friend, no can you help comfigure the Bootloader so I know which OS I'm booting into
[16:47] <ryan_12345> usr13: configure
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> popori, you would set nomodeset in /etc/default/grub and run a update-grub, or at a per-seesion at the grub menu, are you sure you have done this correctly?
[16:47] <popori> wilee-nilee, asus a45v
[16:48] <wilee-nilee> popori, Dual booting is a bit funky with uefi as well are you sure you have done that correctly?
[16:48] <popori> wilee-nilee, i did get the grub menu
[16:49] <wilee-nilee> popori, Do you know how to insert it there?
[16:49] <usr13> popori: Did you hold down the shift key and change (add to) the kernel line so that it said nomodeset at the end of the line?
[16:49] <usr13> ryan_12345: What does it say now?
[16:49] <usr13> !grub | ryan_12345
[16:49] <popori> wilee-nilee usr13 Yes I have inserted it in grub.cfg
[16:50] <popori> wilee-nilee, usr13 but does the order matter
[16:50] <wilee-nilee> popori, That is the wrong place
[16:50] <popori> ok
[16:50] <irssi-mike> what's the best way to change the resolution in a tty permanently?
[16:51] <ryan_12345> usr13: I want to configre the GRUB bootloader so which OS I'm being booting into
[16:52] <popori> wilee-nilee usr13  the problem is that i'm unable to boot even the live enviroment on this laptop. so I guess I have to find a desktop to do this
[16:52] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | popori
[16:52] <irssi-mike> popori: perhaps it's a nouveu issue
[16:53] <wilee-nilee> popori, Have you looked at the uefi wiki up till now?
[16:53] <pabl0s> I installed it on uefi bios, no problem
[16:53] <pabl0s> better set hd as ahci
[16:54] <deepocean> Hello
[16:54] <irssi-mike> ryan_12345: if you have a windows linux combo you could have windows handle the dual boot, just saying
[16:55] <popori> wilee-nilee, I have installed ubuntu on a win8 laptop earlier. so I guess this has to do with the display. correct me if I'm wrong
[16:55] <deepocean> Is this the official Ubuntu channel where we can ask questions?
[16:55] <mojo706> @deepocean yes
[16:56] <deepocean> hello, first time linux user who has just installed Ubuntu: I get the message that /var is too small (Currently 500mb). Can I resize this ?
[16:57] <usr13> deepocean: Yes
[16:57] <pabl0s> deepocean, do u created a separated partetion for /var ?
[16:57] <usr13> deepocean: Show us what you have now:   df -h | pastebinit  #And show us resulting URL
[16:57] <gordonjcp> deepocean: you can.  Did you create a seperate /var partition?
[16:59] <popori> wilee-nilee, what is the procedure to set nomodeset in the live usb? the ubuntuforum link is not available right now
[17:00] <mojo706> http://pastebin.com/
[17:00] <deepocean> usr13, pabl0s gordonjcp http://pastebin.com/aXEgQ7Qx
[17:01] <popori> wilee-nilee, ok sorry. got an alternate link
[17:01] <wilee-nilee> popori, F5 I believe at the first try or install or check memory gui and choose nomodeset
[17:02] <popori> wilee-nilee, I shall try that, thanks
[17:02] <deletet> hy any one have a dell d630 what tipe of smart card can be use whit the smart card reader ?
[17:02]  * pabl0s deepocean  ok, strange partetion, little hard disk and many partetion, however /var is full
[17:03] <deepocean1358> pabl0s, I took the advice I found on  ubuntu website to create a /var as large as 250~500mb
[17:03]  * pabl0s deep you must unmount it and have a more large partetion
[17:04]  * pabl0s deepocean ok, 
[17:04] <usr13> deepocean1358: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit  #And show us that RUL
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> popori, No prob.
[17:07] <TravLR> Curious, will Ubuntu edge have the capability to choose different DE's when docked to a full-sized monitor, or will it be exclusive to Unity?
[17:08] <deepocean1358> usr13, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/powerpc/directory-tree.html
[17:08] <usr13> deepocean1358: pabl0s   Probably, the best/easiest thing to do is do away with the separate partition for /var/ and just put it in sda8.  But it was a very bad idea to separate it all out on such a small space.
[17:09] <usr13> deepocean1358: Again, it was a bad idea.
[17:09] <deepocean1358> usr13, I have just completed installation. If this scheme is not ideal, I can just to a fresh reinstall if that is better.
[17:09] <usr13> deepocean1358: What size is your HD?
[17:09] <deepocean1358> usr13, then what is ideal? Tell, so I can reinstall
[17:10] <deepocean1358> usr13, disk 600gb
[17:10] <deepocean1358> usr13, however I have 400gb movies
[17:10] <usr13> deepocean1358: How much free space did you set aside for the Linux install?
[17:10] <usr13> deepocean1358: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit  #And show us that RUL
[17:10] <deepocean1358> usr13, 200gb
[17:10] <deepocean1358> ok
[17:11] <usr13> RUL not RUL
[17:11] <Pici> URL not URL
[17:11] <deepocean1358> got your point, brb
[17:11] <usr13> Pici: thank you ;(
[17:11] <Pici> :)
[17:11] <FlyBoy> quick question if anybody knows! Does dd-WRT suport PIv6???
[17:12] <SRM> have a question on installing 12.04 on dual boot system with Win 7
[17:12] <FlyBoy> IPv6
[17:12] <FlyBoy> sorry :)
[17:12] <bazhang> ask in their channel FlyBoy
[17:12] <deepocean1358> usr13, http://pastebin.com/EPTdaEkH
[17:12] <ryan_123> is - http://www.ubuntuforums.com (down)
[17:12] <checoimg> TravLR : The most I would expect is that maybe is possible to install the DE the user wants not that it would come with the phone.
[17:12] <Pici> ryan_123: yes.
[17:13] <ryan_123> Pici: Why's it down I need Support
[17:13] <Guest37626> when installing 12.04 on dual boot, the slider to size the partions doesn;t indicate which partion is for which op system.
[17:13] <Pici> ryan_123: You can ask for support here.
[17:13] <usr13> deepocean1358: How much RAM do you have in this system?
[17:13] <ryan_123> Pici: Can you help me then or not or are you busy
[17:13] <deepocean1358> usr13, 8gb, it is a laptop i5 1.8ghz dual core
[17:13] <Pici> ryan_123: Just ask your question to the channel (all on one line) and someone will answer.
[17:14] <checoimg> AFK
[17:14] <ryan_123> Pici: Right, what I'm trying to do is configure the boot loader so I know what OS i'm booting into]
[17:15] <andybrine> evening everyone
[17:15] <usr13> deepocean1358: So you have 2HD's, (640G & 500G).
[17:15] <ryan_123> Right, what I'm trying to do is configure the boot loader so I know what OS i'm booting into
[17:15] <TJ-> Networking on 13.04 Unity, with multiple network connections, how do we stop Network Manager from replacing the current default route with that of a new secondary connection, without also stopping that new connection from providing *any* default route ("Use this connection only for resources on its network") when it is the sole connection?
[17:15] <andybrine> does anyone know how to turn off group notifications is skype on ubuntu?
[17:15] <deepocean1358> Hello andybrine
[17:15] <deepocean1358> usr13, yes.
[17:16] <usr13> deepocean1358: And you only want to use space on the 640G drive.  Right?
[17:16] <andybrine> Hello deepocean1358
[17:16] <deepocean1358> usr13, on the 640gb I had windows 8 and the rest is 400gb or so movies and music.
[17:16] <deepocean1358> usr13, Yes.
[17:16] <usr13> deepocean1358: What is sda11 (85G  FAT32)?
[17:16] <deepocean1358> usr13, I would still like to keep the music/movie data and only use 200gb for Ubuntu
[17:17] <S-1438> when installing 12.04 on dual boot, the slider to size the partions doesn;t indicate which partion is for which op system.
[17:17] <usr13> deepocean1358: What you used on the first install was less than 20G (by my calculations).
[17:17] <deepocean1358> usr13, Yes I named it /opslag and it is the remainder of the 200gb I used for Windows 8 before and that I used to install Ubuntu on
[17:17] <deepocean1358> usr13,  Yes correct
[17:18] <ryan_123> Really good support system this is
[17:18] <Casey> is there a program that will recover data off of ext4 formats that will place the recovered files in the original folder(s) that they were deleted from. Example, Photorec just places the recovered files in random folders, not the folder that the file was originally in.
[17:18] <Pici> ryan_123: I don't see that you've actualyl asked a question.
[17:18] <ryan_123> Pici: I need to edit the bootloader?
[17:18] <saiarcot895> ryan_123: the label in GRUB should tell you what OS you're booting into
[17:19] <S-1438> when installing 12.04 on dual boot, the slider to size the partions doesn;t indicate which partion is for which op system. whcih partition os for which op system? the left or right side???
[17:19] <usr13> deepocean1358: Not sure what you did with sda9, don't see it on the list at:  http://pastebin.com/aXEgQ7Qx
[17:19] <TJ-> Casey: That's because the original directory entries have often been over-written and therefore lost. The link from a directory entry to a file inode is one-way so you can't recover the path from the file inode
[17:19] <ryan_123> saiarcot895: I know that, but I've got "Ubuntu" & "Ubuntu 13.04" I'd rather change the name so I know what Os I'm booting into
[17:19] <usr13> deepocean1358: Never mind, I see it.
[17:20] <usr13> deepocean1358: SO do you have files in /Opslag now?
[17:20] <deepocean1358> usr13, no
[17:21] <Casey> Tj: The directories should not have been overwritten though, I deleted the wrong folders and left the HDD's the way they were once deleted, IE no more files were written to HDD and HDD was not formated. Does that matter?
[17:21] <Pici> ryan_123: Whats the difference between the two?
[17:21] <usr13> deepocean1358: sdb3 is where the Videos are?  (The last partition of the 500G drive)?
[17:21] <Casey> Tj: even in Photorec it changes the files name.
[17:23] <Casey> Tj: I am looking for a recovery program like GetItBackNTFS where it keeps the original config of the files that it recovers even if the HDD has been formated, or data has been written over top of the files deleted. I don't know if that same process works for Ext4 though...
[17:23] <irssi-mike> Casey: testdisk
[17:23] <usr13> deepocean1358: Ok, here's what you do.  Boot the LiveCd again.  Fire up Gparted and delete partitions sda5 sda6 sda7 sda8 sda9 sda10 & sda11  Start the installer and install on the available free-space
[17:24] <irssi-mike> Casey: oh, formated, idk
[17:24] <Casey> irssi-mike: testdisk is not the same as photorec? I thought it was same company, just different name?
[17:24] <duncan_> connect irc.mushies.org
[17:24] <deepocean1358> usr13, merge everything again?
[17:24] <TJ-> Casey: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk:_undelete_file_for_ext2
[17:24] <mojo706> SRM: what is your question
[17:24] <duncan_> how do i join a different IRC?
[17:25] <Casey> "/join #channel name:"
[17:25] <Casey> "/join #channel name"  ***
[17:25] <oozbooz> hey, on Ubuntu, I want to add "options rotate timeout:1 attempts:1" to /etc/resolv.conf ... what is a proper way to do it automatically: post reboot or otherwise
[17:25] <oozbooz> besides resolver
[17:25] <usr13> deepocean1358: If asked, use about 8G for swap, 30G for /  and the rest for /home/  (If you want to do it manually.   (I'm not sure you need the FAT32 partition at the end, if you do, create it again or just leave it there and only delete sda5-10 and use *that* free space).
[17:25] <BluesKaj> duncan_, in the server textbox ,   /server irc.mushies.org
[17:25] <Casey> duncan: example; /join #ubuntu
[17:26] <deepocean1358> usr13, I am not sure on which partition all the music&video resides
[17:26] <deepocean1358> usr13, isnt that sda11
[17:26] <duncan_> THANK YOU!!
[17:26] <irssi-mike> Casey: I think he meant a different server?
[17:26] <BluesKaj> yup
[17:26] <TJ-> Casey: Most file-system formats only change metadata at the start of the disk so, if that hasn't obliterated important starting info for the original file-system, it is *sometimes* possible to recover paths and files, but it often needs manual intervention
[17:26] <Rekenoak> hi, anyone knows how to configure grub in order to boot a mac os partition? My problem: When i select the mac partition, It begins to load until appears a message like "Still waiting for root device". Info: Ive install on a logical partition and mac and his efi partition on a primary partiton.
[17:27] <Casey> irssi-mike: yeah I think you are right, I guess I didn't read his post correctly
[17:28] <deepocean1358> usr13, ?
[17:28] <usr13> deepocean1358: YOu have allocated only 127.8G for the Linux install, (not 200G)  See:  http://pastebin.com/EPTdaEkH  (sda2 is 127.8G).
[17:29] <deepocean1358> usr13, in that case what i will do is I will move the movies away to the other disk and try to free the entire disk first
[17:29] <irssi-mike> Casey: testdisk should be able to restore the whole thing to the way you had it provided you didn't write too much to it
[17:29] <irssi-mike> Casey: has to be unmounted i believe
[17:30] <usr13> deepocean1358: Good idea.
[17:30] <Pici> oozbooz: you should modify /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail
[17:30] <deepocean1358> usr13, thank you for the tips so far.
[17:30] <usr13> deepocean1358: You are welcome.
[17:30] <deepocean1358> usr13, will report back once I have cleaned up a bit
[17:31] <Casey> irssi-mike I have downloaded the .tz file and extracted it, how do you start the program?
[17:31] <Casey> I'm new to linux, so sorry if I seem a little noobish
[17:31] <Casey> I'm used to data recovery off of windows manchines, NTFS and Fat16/32
[17:31] <Rekenoak> hi, anyone knows how to configure grub in order to boot a mac os partition? My problem: When i select the mac partition, It begins to load until appears a message like "Still waiting for root device". Info: Ive install on a logical partition and mac and his efi partition on a primary partiton.
[17:32] <bobbertson> how do I close ubuntu one
[17:32] <bobbertson> It starts at boot every time and I don't want it at all really to be honest
[17:32] <oozbooz> Pici: that means I have to run a resolver, is the option for /etc/network/interface dns-* to add this line?
[17:32] <oozbooz> the=there
[17:33] <Casey> irssi-mike: nevermind, I got it :)
[17:33] <TJ-> Rekenoak: I think the problem isn't GRUB, its expecting an OSX EFI partition in an MSDOS primary partition to boot!
[17:34] <sam113101> I NEED HELP
[17:34] <sam113101> the font on firefox is weird
[17:34] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, Have you messed with it?
[17:34] <TJ-> sam113101: Have you tested it in safe mode ?
[17:34] <usr13> bobbertson: Trun off the process and uninstall the package(s) with apt-get purge
[17:35] <sam113101> wilee-nilee: no
[17:35] <sam113101> TJ-: no, how do I do that?
[17:35] <Pici> oozbooz: I'm unsure if interfaces can accept resolveconf options there.
[17:35] <sam113101> how do I reset it
[17:36] <genii> sam113101: firefox -safe-mode      from terminal will load it without any extensions/addons and if it behaves there, you know to start going through them to see which is the prob
[17:36] <oozbooz> Pici: interfaces has dns-search, dns-servers, so I though it should offer something like dns-options
[17:36] <histo> oozbooz: yes you can add dns-nameserver whatever
[17:36] <TJ-> sam113101: With Firefox not running already, at a terminal, "firefox -safe-mode"  ... you can also try using a new, fresh profile. Again, with no firefox running already, "firefox -ProfileManager" and create a new clean profile. That will help you discover if the font issue is specific to your default firefox profile or something more widespread
[17:36] <histo> Pici: you can add nameservers to interfaces it's the prefered way when using resolvconf
[17:37] <Pici> histo: oozbooz was asking about adding "options rotate timeout:1 attempts:1"
[17:37] <usr13> bobbertson: Looks like there are instructions at  https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+faq/778 & http://hex.ro/wp/blog/removing-ubuntuone-from-ubuntu-12-04/
[17:37] <histo> Pici: ahh I though he was asking about nameservers my bad
[17:38] <sam113101> genii: the font is weird even in safe mode… only the UI, though
[17:38] <sam113101> I wonder why
[17:39] <genii> sam113101: Not sure. but at least you've now eliminated your addons, etc as possible culprit.
[17:40] <TJ-> sam113101: Now try a new clean profile
[17:41] <oozbooz> Pici: thanks
[17:42] <sam113101> even the "choose user profile" dialog has a weird font
[17:42] <sam113101> I don't think it has anything to do with my profile
[17:42] <sam113101> firefox uses gtk 2, right?
[17:42] <Rekenoak> hi, anyone knows how to configure grub in order to boot a mac os partition? My problem: When i select the mac partition, It begins to load until appears a message like "Still waiting for root device". Info: Ive install on a logical partition and mac and his efi partition on a primary partiton.
[17:43] <sam113101> it's the only gtk 2 app I have tried I think
[17:43] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, Is there any background here we are missing, like changes to your themes or fonts in general?
[17:43] <sam113101> what's another gtk 2 app installed by default?
[17:43] <sam113101> not sure how it happened… but it happened suddenly
[17:44] <sirdeseagull> hi everyone, i need help on installing something in the terminal
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> sirdeseagull  let's hear it
[17:44] <sirdeseagull> i have already dl it but dont know how to untar it
[17:44] <sirdeseagull> .tar.bz2
[17:44] <sam113101> so, what's another gtk 2 app that ships with ubuntu?
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> sirdeseagull  not from the repos, no apt-get ?
[17:45] <wilee-nilee> sirdeseagull, What is it and did you look in the repos first?
[17:45] <sirdeseagull> well i did apt-get
[17:45] <dirtyzero> use tar -jxvf
[17:45] <sirdeseagull> at first but then it seem its not what i have wanted
[17:45] <usr13> sirdeseagull: What is it?
[17:45] <usr13> sirdeseagull: (What exactly are you wanting to install?)
[17:45] <sirdeseagull> im trying to install google ime
[17:45] <sirdeseagull> japan
[17:46] <sirdeseagull> i did sudo apt-get install ibus ibus-mozc
[17:46] <usr13> sirdeseagull: What did you download?
[17:46] <sirdeseagull> the mozc file from the site
[17:46] <dirtyzero> you can just do tar -jxvf <filename> to untar it
[17:46] <sirdeseagull> mozc-1.11.1502.102.tar.bz2
[17:46] <Casey> irssi-mike: I am doing a "deep search" on the raid1 ext4, it is pulling up some of the older partitions, it is showing me things like this, http://pastebin.com/17YzraXJ   what does the numbers represent?
[17:47] <sirdeseagull> and will it install it too?
[17:47] <dirtyzero> no
[17:47] <sirdeseagull> then what?
[17:47] <dirtyzero> there will likely be a readme
[17:47] <dirtyzero> you will need to READ it
[17:47] <dufa> hello! I've installed apache2 using apt-get. I only use it for development, and it seems unneccessary  that it is constantly running. how do i disable apache2 at startup? i'd like to be able to manually start it when i need it.
[17:47] <histo> Casey: what are you trying to do?
[17:47] <sirdeseagull> how will i do that...  read it
[17:47] <sirdeseagull> what is the command for it
[17:48] <sirdeseagull> sorry i am so knew
[17:48] <sirdeseagull> new*
[17:48] <dirtyzero> did you untar it yet ?
[17:48] <pi4> Hi guys, is TRIM enabled by default on ubuntu 13.04 if an SSD is detected? How do I test for this?
[17:48] <sirdeseagull> nope
[17:48] <Casey> histo: recover some deleted files, and have the files in their original folders (when they were deleted)
[17:48] <dirtyzero> well do that first
[17:48] <dirtyzero> 1 step at a time
[17:49] <histo> Casey: Are you working from an image or the actual drives?
[17:49] <sirdeseagull> ok it is done
[17:50] <Casey> histo: I was able to recover 90% of the files with photorec, but I need to have the files in their original folders...or as best as can be...because some of the files were pictures and were of a few friends collections and its too much to sort through picture by picture to put in folder by folder.
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> pi4, I used this guide, they are all over the net, but some are different. https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[17:50] <Casey> histo: it is actual disks   (raid1 ext4)
[17:50] <sam113101> ok guys
[17:50] <earspliT> hey, anyone have an issue in 12.10 where the login screen freezes? I have to go into a TTY and sudo pkill X to get it up
[17:50] <histo> Casey: What happened that broke this in the first place?
[17:50] <dirtyzero> ok it should have created a directory cd into it
[17:50] <sam113101> only gtk 2 apps' font looks weird
[17:50] <Casey> histo: someone deleted the wrong directory in command
[17:51] <Casey> terminal**
[17:51] <TechnoCat> indiegogo is the only way to buy an ubuntu edge retail. T_T
[17:51] <histo> !undelete | Casey
[17:51] <sirdeseagull> yes
[17:51] <sam113101> how do I fix this?
[17:51] <sirdeseagull> i see it , its in blue right?
[17:51] <Casey> then it was formated from ext4 to NTFS as I am now just finding out
[17:51] <dirtyzero> idk that depends on the terminal
[17:51] <histo> Casey: good luck with that one.
[17:52] <dirtyzero> anyways once your inside  type 'ls' to show the contents of the directory
[17:52] <xibalba> has anyone in here used Lineode?
[17:52] <histo> Casey: extundelete may be of help
[17:52] <sirdeseagull> ok, im sure its that... then what command do i type in to read it?
[17:52] <pi4> wilee-nilee: so is TRIM not auto-done?
[17:52] <dirtyzero> are you in the directory  ?
[17:52] <Casey> I have been able to recover NFTS and FAT32/16 files that have been formated, deleted, overwritten before but not with ext2/3/4 formats.
[17:52] <Pici> xibalba: You mean Linode?
[17:52] <xibalba> whoops, yes
[17:52] <sirdeseagull> yes
[17:53] <dirtyzero> ok great what files are in the directory ?
[17:53] <xibalba> any opinions/feedback on Linode?
[17:53] <dirtyzero> is there a README ?
[17:53] <sirdeseagull> lots of directories and there is a txt file
[17:53] <sirdeseagull> also a .py file
[17:53] <dirtyzero> no README ?
[17:53] <Pici> xibalba: Its not really on-topic for #ubuntu, but I know a number of people who use them (including myself) and I have not heard any complaints.
[17:54] <sirdeseagull> nope
[17:54] <dirtyzero> is there a setup.py file ?
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> pi4, Not exactly, you have to set stuff up depending on what you really want there are options, that wiki talks about it.
[17:54] <Casey> histo: this talks more about ext3, is that the same as or close to ext4?
[17:54] <Pici> xibalba: Their official channel is #linode on irc.oftc.net if you have more questions for them.
[17:55] <sirdeseagull> android        chrome    CONTRIBUTORS  DEPS        gyp          languages                  prediction  server   testing          usage_stats
[17:55] <sirdeseagull> base           client    converter     dictionary  handwriting  mac                        protobuf    session  third_party      win32
[17:55] <sirdeseagull> build_mozc.py  composer  data          engine      __init__.py  mozc_version_template.txt  renderer    storage  transliteration
[17:55] <sirdeseagull> build_tools    config    data_manager  gui         ipc          net                        rewriter    sync     unix
[17:55] <xibalba> i just joined thanks
[17:55] <FloodBot1> sirdeseagull: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:55] <sirdeseagull> sirdeseagull@sirdeseagull-ThinkPad-T410:~/Downloads/mozc-1.11.1502.102$
[17:55] <usr13> sirdeseagull: !paste
[17:55] <dirtyzero> what is this exactly ?
[17:55] <sirdeseagull> mozc-1.11.1502.102.tar.bz2
[17:55] <usr13>  !paste | sirdeseagull
[17:55] <dirtyzero> no I mean what is that ?
[17:56] <dirtyzero> what does it do
[17:56] <sirdeseagull> thats the file ive untar
[17:56] <adityarajbhatt> Ubuntu Edge's growth seems to have slowed down.
[17:56] <histo> Casey: extundelete supports ext4 as well
[17:56] <Rekenoak>  hi, anyone knows how to configure grub in order to boot a mac os partition? My problem: When i select the mac partition, It begins to load until appears a message like "Still waiting for root device". Info: Ive install on a logical partition and mac and his efi partition on a primary partiton.
[17:56] <dirtyzero> I understand that what is it ?
[17:56] <histo> Casey: I would read the info on their site
[17:56] <adityarajbhatt> Yesterday, it was climbing instantly.
[17:56] <adityarajbhatt> Today it is a little stagnant.
[17:56] <sirdeseagull> it suppose to translate raman into japan kanji
[17:56] <histo> Rekenoak: Don't you need refit for mac booting?
[17:56] <sirdeseagull> roman*
[17:56] <Pici> adityarajbhatt: Lets stay on topic here, #ubuntu is for support only. chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:57] <gordonjcp> Rekenoak: use refind
[17:57] <histo> !mac | Rekenoak
[17:59] <adityarajbhatt> Pici: Sorry. Did not know that.
[17:59] <dirtyzero> what are you trying to use mozc for ?  its for handeling japanese input
[17:59] <adityarajbhatt> So does every distro have a -offtopic channel? Anyway, moving there.
[18:00] <dirtyzero> anyways I found the instructions http://code.google.com/p/mozc/wiki/LinuxBuildInstructions
[18:01] <micom> hello i have found in example https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/boost1.54/1.54.0-1 what is the easiest way to find in which repo it is and how to download it?
[18:01] <sirdeseagull> i am learning japanese thaats why, and my courses need me to type and read also
[18:01] <histo> !find boost
[18:01] <micom> histo, stop please, its 1.54 its newest version than available on my updated 13.04
[18:02] <dirtyzero>  I see , this looks like a tough package to use for what you want but like I said install instructions can be found http://code.google.com/p/mozc/wiki/LinuxBuildInstructions
[18:02] <histo> micom: then look for a ppa or build yourself
[18:02] <micom> histo, that's what i asked, i found this page with 1.54
[18:02] <micom> and what should i do now
[18:02] <sirdeseagull> thank you i see it now, but wow that a big compile i need to do
[18:03] <dufa> part
[18:05] <histo> micom: search here
[18:05] <histo> micom: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[18:06] <LucidDreamZzZ> could someone tell me please what is the software center path?
[18:07] <WorstCaseOntario> Hey there I am trying to fix SAMBA after my system crashed due to accidentally unplugging the harddrive. SAMBA is no longer working. when I enter the smbtree command it now returns nothing
[18:07] <micom> histo, thanks
[18:07] <LucidDreamZzZ> keep forgetting Debian apt will work nm
[18:07] <histo> WorstCaseOntario: are you hosting a share on this machine or just trying to connect to a remote one?
[18:08] <histo> LucidDreamZzZ: software center path?
[18:08] <LucidDreamZzZ> yeah the path
[18:08] <WorstCaseOntario> I'm sharing a harddrive on my wifi network
[18:08] <histo> LucidDreamZzZ: to the software center application?
[18:08] <LucidDreamZzZ> right
[18:08] <LucidDreamZzZ> yes
[18:08] <histo> WorstCaseOntario: sudo service samba status
[18:09] <antivirtel> hello, can someone answer to my question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/323509/lenovo-e525-lock-button-as-a-hotkey ? thank!
[18:09] <histo> LucidDreamZzZ: Not on ubuntu but you could check with which someapplication
[18:09] <WorstCaseOntario> it says samba: unrecognized service
[18:09] <LucidDreamZzZ> type xwininfo
[18:09] <histo> WorstCaseOntario: smbd perhaps?
[18:09] <LucidDreamZzZ> and click on it
[18:09] <LucidDreamZzZ> anyone?
[18:10] <LucidDreamZzZ> sheesh
[18:10] <WorstCaseOntario> smdb: unrecognized service
[18:10] <DJones> LucidDreamZzZ: anyone what? saying anyone doesn't exactly ask anything
[18:10] <ichat> since a few days i get a <update information is outdated> in the ubuntu 13.04 update applet,  when i do  sudo apt-get update i get a bigg scrolling list of source that are being looked at, how can i find out  witch of these is not working propperly  or can i for example pastebin this output to share with thi chan...
[18:10] <LucidDreamZzZ> this isnt smb #
[18:10] <trism> sirdeseagull: what isn't working with the ibus-mozc package? you just need to run: ibus-setup and add the input method, then make sure ibus-daemon is running, and you can activate it with ctrl+space
[18:10] <histo> WorstCaseOntario: do you have samba installed/
[18:10] <LucidDreamZzZ> DJones, sorry were you talking to me?
[18:10] <LucidDreamZzZ> try reading first
[18:11] <LucidDreamZzZ> it helps
[18:11] <histo> !attitude | LucidDreamZzZ
[18:11] <DJones> LucidDreamZzZ: Yes I was talking to you, if you want to explain what you were asking, that would help considerably
[18:11] <LucidDreamZzZ> could your irc client scroll perhaps
[18:11] <LucidDreamZzZ> pgup
[18:12] <bazhang> LucidDreamZzZ, lose the attitude
[18:12] <histo> DJones: guess he won't
[18:12] <LucidDreamZzZ> done
[18:12] <WorstCaseOntario> yes I have it installed I spent like a week getting it to work lol
[18:12] <histo> WorstCaseOntario: well confirm that the daemon is running
[18:12] <histo> and listening
[18:13] <newtothis> so the ubuntu forums are really down?  or is that page about the passwords being stolen put up by... someone else?
[18:13] <histo> newtothis: They are down
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> abusing the mods really goes a long way, lol
[18:13] <WorstCaseOntario> I don't know if this is related but after the crash another program I had claimed to be running when it was not. something to do with a "lockfile"
[18:14] <WorstCaseOntario> how do I check to see if the daemon is running
[18:14] <histo> WorstCaseOntario: sudo service smbd status
[18:14] <LucidDreamZzZ> could someone please tell me the software center path in Ubuntu?
[18:14] <histo> WorstCaseOntario: you typo'd it before
[18:14] <histo> LucidDreamZzZ: type which software-center in a terminal
[18:14] <newtothis> ah jeez, anyway.. quick question...  So i'm the only user on my Ubuntu installation and I'm the administrator, and i recently installed.  but i'm not root?
[18:14] <napsc> WorstCaseOntario: ps aux | grep -e "smb."
[18:15] <histo> !sudo | newtothis
[18:15] <newtothis> if i was "root" would i not have to type in "sudo" for all those things
[18:15] <LucidDreamZzZ> okie ill try that thanks
[18:15] <WorstCaseOntario> sudo service smbd status
[18:15] <WorstCaseOntario> smbd start/running, process 6152
[18:15] <histo> newtothis: root doesn't need sudo
[18:15] <histo> WorstCaseOntario: sudo smbtree
[18:15] <histo> !root | newtothis
[18:16] <newtothis> hmm?
[18:16] <newtothis> oh
[18:16] <newtothis> so is root discourage because it's like... unbridled power?
[18:16] <newtothis> *discouraged
[18:16] <histo> newtothis: pretty much yes
[18:16] <gordonjcp> newtothis: kind of, yeah
[18:16] <WorstCaseOntario> whoa. now smbtree is giving info. what just happend
[18:16] <newtothis> oh thank god i actually get that lol
[18:16] <gordonjcp> newtothis: you can set a root password
[18:17] <gordonjcp> newtothis: don't do that, though, it's silly and obsolete
[18:17] <gordonjcp> newtothis: using root privs is basically a mistake amplifier
[18:17] <newtothis> right right i see, i've read those things i just wanted to make sure, that first question i typed
[18:17] <gordonjcp> newtothis: you *will* end up blowing away stuff you didn't mean to, this is going to happen
[18:17] <newtothis> gordonjcp:  haha wow that's
[18:17] <newtothis> xD
[18:17] <gordonjcp> newtothis: get that through your head
[18:17] <gordonjcp> newtothis: you're going to kill your machine
[18:17] <ichat> gordonjcp,  - why not use sudo su than for the duration of your session :)
[18:18] <OerHeks> newtothis, if you do "sudo -i" your terminal session would be root until closing.
[18:18] <newtothis> no yeah i'm just going to leave things the way they are but good to know
[18:18] <Casey> newtothis: use the *root* and you will be doing data recovery like myself :(
[18:18] <CheckDavid> Hello =)
[18:18] <gordonjcp> newtothis: when you're using root, either with a root login or sudo, you can nuke your machine in far more efficient and creative ways
[18:18] <newtothis> OerHeks:   ohh!  nice thanks
[18:18] <sam113101> guys
[18:18] <joshu_> MonkeyDust hi been away just saw your message about notify-send
[18:19] <sam113101> how do I fix the font on gtk 2 apps?
[18:19] <CheckDavid> I think around 1 year ago I tried installing Ubuntu, successfully. I am not totally positive, but I think it came in Portuguese, my countries language, but I wish it to be in English, I am not absolutely sure that this was the case, since I did this one year ago.
[18:19] <newtothis> is there like a unanimous ... "best"  irc client? btw i'm using the freenode site and it's hard to follow along a little..
[18:19] <CheckDavid> Does ubuntu try to detect the language when you are trying to install?
[18:19] <joshu_> MonkeyDust what I'm wondering is it enough to install notify-osd to get pop ups in the same way as in a standard ubuntu install, e.g. when you connect to ethernet etc?
[18:20] <gordonjcp> CheckDavid: no, but it makes some reasonable guesses once you give it a locale selection
[18:20] <gordonjcp> newtothis: not really
[18:20] <LucidDreamZzZ> hmm i thought xwininfo did more sorry my bad
[18:20] <ichat> what is the way to send the output from one command to the other command for example    send the output from  sudo apt-get update   to pastebinit
[18:20] <rogier> How do i bring the close button from right to left? Ubuntu/ Gnome 3.
[18:20] <newtothis> thanks for clearing that up everybody,  also is there a way to not be root but still have to type in your password everytime?
[18:20] <DJones> !irc | newtothis There isn't really a best, its what suits you, this link should give you a few suggestions to try though,
[18:20] <gordonjcp> newtothis: if you ask six people what the best IRC client is, you'll get nine mutually contradictory answers
[18:20] <CheckDavid> gordonjcp, oh, and then does it attempt to set it as the main OS language?
[18:20] <gordonjcp> newtothis: I like running irssi which is a purely text client, and I run it with a thing called tmux
[18:20] <WorstCaseOntario> histo thanks I don't know what that did but SAMBA is working now
[18:21] <gordonjcp> CheckDavid: I can't remember now, I think you set language like English (GB) and it will assume you have a UK keyboard and timezone
[18:21] <newtothis> histo:  i see,  yeah i was expecting that, had to ask though, it's like with a lot of computer related stuff i'm finding
[18:21] <trism> joshu_: notify-osd is just the daemon that displays the notifications, the notifications are sent by various apps (so if you are using network-manager you will probably get those ones)
[18:21] <rogier> also can i enable the task bar? I'm used to gnome 3 classic.
[18:21] <gordonjcp> newtothis: tmux and irssi is great because you can run it on a server like I'm doing, and detach and reattach at will
[18:21] <CheckDavid> gordonjcp, I have latin keyboard, but I do wish for it to be in English.
[18:21] <mnme_> hi guys, i have a question: i added a partition (ntfs-3g for win compatibility) to fstab and the automount works, but i can't use the trash, i need to delete files permamently. what could be the problem?
[18:21] <CheckDavid> gordonjcp, it = os language
[18:22] <LucidDreamZzZ> ok this is exactly what i needed the software-center has those check boxes awesome thanks histo!!
[18:22] <histo> WorstCaseOntario: it did nothing other than check the status of the samba daemon. Perhaps you weren't using sudo with smbtree before
[18:22] <gordonjcp> newtothis: if you could see what I'm doing, you'd see I've left the house and I'm now connected to IRC from the PC in my van
[18:22] <newtothis> gordonjcp:  ... :(  i do not know what those things "mean" lol but i'll get there lol
[18:22] <gordonjcp> newtothis: notice how you didn't see me disconnect and reconnect?
[18:22] <newtothis> ah okay
[18:22] <newtothis> on your own server okay
[18:22] <LucidDreamZzZ> menus!!
[18:22] <gordonjcp> yup
[18:23] <joshu_> trism hi just tested in a VM on my ubuntu mini install and it seems to work.
[18:23] <gordonjcp> newtothis: so, I have a server somewhere in a hosting farm in London
[18:23] <gordonjcp> newtothis: I'm in the house now, ssh'ed into it over ADSL
[18:23] <newtothis> 0_0
[18:23] <gordonjcp> newtothis: at the same time the PC in my van is ssh'ed into it over 3G
[18:23] <sam113101> I don't like doing this
[18:23] <ichat> gordonjcp, - your using irrsi as a bouncer?
[18:23] <newtothis> i need to learn more... about... stuff..
[18:23] <sam113101> I prefer to use a bouncer
[18:24] <gordonjcp> ichat: a what?
[18:24] <sam113101> tmux + weechat over ssh was kind of slow when I tried it
[18:24] <WorstCaseOntario> well I did not use sudo but it still asked for my password when I typed in smbtree, and I could not browse shared folders and now it works. weird
[18:24] <m6121> Greetings, all.
[18:24] <ichat> sam113101,  - ty, now i understand what hes doing
[18:24] <mnme_> nobody knows why i can't use trash on my automounted mtfs-3g partition?
[18:25] <histo> sam113101: works fine here
[18:25] <ichat> gordonjcp,  instead of runing an irc client on my server im running a cashing irc proxy instead
[18:25] <gordonjcp> ichat: oh okay
[18:25] <newtothis> two more burning questions guys: 1) can you enable 'ctrl+c' and 'ctr+v' in Terminal???  2)any way to disable not being prompted for the password all the time, but still not being root?
[18:25] <gordonjcp> ichat: I use tmux for running mutt and a bunch of other stuff
[18:25] <histo> newtothis: try ctrl+shift+v
[18:25] <m6121> I am looking to buy an external drive.  The last time I bought a component, a Dell printer that states "Linux" it took me 3 months to get a driver.   Does anyone know if a "Western Digital Elements 2TB External Hard Drive" will work with Linux, or is there "One" that you should get?
[18:25] <ichat> gordonjcp, - i see
[18:26] <newtothis> histo:   sweet jesus!!!!
[18:26] <gordonjcp> newtothis: copy and paste are ctrl-shift-c and ctrl-shift-v
[18:26] <gordonjcp> newtothis: ctrl-c uses something else
[18:26] <gordonjcp> newtothis: also, just select stuff and middle-click to paste
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> newtothis, If it needs super user=admin you will have to use the password, it does not take long to get used to it.
[18:26] <newtothis> right right, i noticed. that ctrl c was like.. for.. to something else yea
[18:27] <histo> newtothis: yeah ctrl+c is to stop processing a command
[18:27] <gordonjcp> newtothis: ctrl-c is generally used as break
[18:27] <newtothis> wilee-nilee:  oh ok yeah i've made my password short for the speed, but so everyone just deals with that?
[18:27] <m6121> ctrl-c  =  'break
[18:27] <m6121> that is good to know, thanks
[18:27] <newtothis> histo:  gordonjcp   of course!!!  haha  i used that to stop my infinite loops
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> newtothis, If you have been running windows in admin you have gotten used to a faulty system is all. I started on open source so it seemed natural.
[18:28] <gordonjcp> newtothis: no no no you must have a 200-character password with a mix of upper case, lower case, numeric, punctuation, international phonetic alphabet and sanskrit symbols!
[18:28] <newtothis> wilee-nilee:  yeaahhh  i'm dual booting windows 7 and ubuntu,  in windows i disabled the security prompt thing
[18:28] <m6121> So does anyone have warm fuzzies about a Western Digital Elements 2TB External Hard Drive and Ubuntu, or, anyone have an "Oh, god, no" experience with that as an external drive?
[18:28] <gordonjcp> newtothis: and never write it down!
[18:28] <gordonjcp> newtothis: on the other hand, maybe no-one cares enough about you to break into your computer
[18:28] <m6121> (like for the sanskrit reference)
[18:29] <gordonjcp> newtothis: and a simple non-dictionary word password will suffice
[18:29] <wilee-nilee> newtothis, Really not a good idea, windows should be run in a standard and with the uac running.
[18:29] <newtothis> gordonjcp:  XD   lol   but how much danger are you in if your ubuntu password is like... oh idk...  one character long?  i mean  if  a hacker had that what... they could break me?
[18:29] <gordonjcp> newtothis: actually no
[18:29] <gordonjcp> no, chances are they wouldn't
[18:29] <wilee-nilee> anf fully backed up and imaged
[18:29] <wilee-nilee> and*
[18:29] <mryanbrown> whats a decent size for /boot ?
[18:29] <newtothis> wilee-nilee:  i see,  what you say rings true then, ubuntu is growing on me and yeah shame i've gotten used to a bad system
[18:29] <mryanbrown> is 500mb overkill with a 100mb /boot/efi
[18:29] <TheBrayn> mydogsnameisrudy: 200MB or so
[18:29] <gordonjcp> newtothis: for the simple reason that no-one would think you'd have such a fundamentally stupid password
[18:30] <LucidDreamZzZ> mryanbrown, 100mb
[18:30] <saiarcot895> mryanbrown: 100mb as well
[18:30] <TheBrayn> I always like to have a bit of extra space to keep it from running out of space when it's filled up with old kernel images
[18:30] <mryanbrown> 100mb /boot and 100mb /efi
[18:30] <mryanbrown> or 200mb /boot and 100mb /efi
[18:30] <gordonjcp> newtothis: have you ever realised you didn't have your keys, spent ten minutes trying to work out how to get in, then actually found the door was open anyway?
[18:30] <foobar2000> I have Ubuntu Server running in VirtualBox (the host is a MacBook Pro running OS X 10.7.5). In the Ubuntu Server VM, I can access www.google.com just fine but not code.google.com. Any idea what I can do to troubleshoot? I'd rather resolve the actual problem instead of just adding an entry to /etc/hosts
[18:30] <LucidDreamZzZ> unless you have a plan for dozens of images right
[18:30] <newtothis> gordonjcp:  really?  what if they bruteforced it, wouldn't the running time be wayyyyy shorter for them?
[18:30] <wilee-nilee> newtothis, It happens MS does not exactly inform its consumers, I like MS I hve W8, W7 and XP, but I run them like I would linux in general.
[18:30] <mryanbrown> i might have about 10 kernels yeah
[18:31] <gordonjcp> newtothis: aha, yes
[18:31] <mryanbrown> + gummiboot and prob grub2 alternating
[18:31] <gordonjcp> newtothis: but no-one would bother brute-forcing short passwords
[18:31] <m6121> "1-2-3-4-5?   Sounds like the combinations some idiot would have on his luggage..."
[18:31] <joshu_> is it normal to not have an interfaces directory at /etc/network/interfaces ?
[18:31] <wilee-nilee> mryanbrown, Generally a boot partition is not needed.
[18:31] <mryanbrown> why do you say that
[18:31] <gordonjcp> newtothis: I'm actually tempted to set up a honeypot on a VM and see how long it takes to get broken with a single-character password :-D
[18:31] <mryanbrown> how else am i going to boot
[18:31] <saiarcot895> wilee-nilee: (U)EFI requires one
[18:31] <LucidDreamZzZ> make it read only
[18:31] <newtothis> lol  i'm afraid now...
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> mryanbrown, It is common knowledge all you need is the mbr in a msdos setup.
[18:32] <mryanbrown> lol mbr
[18:32] <mryanbrown> this is 2013 man
[18:32] <mryanbrown> gpt + uefi
[18:32] <newtothis> i'm going to change my password now
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> saiarcot895, Did you miss the GENERALLY?
[18:32] <saiarcot895> wilee-nilee: actually, I did; sorry about that
[18:33] <columb> How do I fix missing items from my unity bar? Missing: keyboard layout indicator, date&time. "Restore defaults" doesn't work. Can't enable them in unity tweak. http://i.imgur.com/oryxTSh.png
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> mryanbrown, gpt and uefi is nice but most of the world in 2013 is not using it.
[18:33] <LucidDreamZzZ> if you do make /boot make sure it physically resides at the beginning of disk
[18:33] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: everyone using a Mac is
[18:33] <TheBrayn> is the gnome setting daemon running LucidDreamZzZ?
[18:33] <mryanbrown> i had gpt and uefi setup with gummiboot on arch yesterday
[18:33] <mryanbrown> 8s reboot to console
[18:34] <[1]tom> i was using 10.04 for my school's robotics club, but now that it's at eol, what version do you think i should go for? i'm just wondering if there would be more serious back compatibility issues if i went straight for the latest release
[18:34] <mryanbrown> no visible bootloader, just straight loaded the kernel
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> mryanbrown, And by the way showing an smart as attitude here will not go far.
[18:34] <LucidDreamZzZ> thebananafish, im on fvwm2
[18:34] <xangua> [1]tom 12.04 is the current LTS
[18:34] <LucidDreamZzZ> TheBrayn, ^^
[18:34] <DJones> [1]tom: You may be better sticking with 12.04 thats supported for 5 years
[18:34] <histo> mryanbrown: you should see it on a ssd bout 3-4 seconds
[18:34] <Slart> [1]tom: if you don't want to mess with updates all the time go with the latest LTS.. long term support version
[18:34] <mryanbrown> tom, isnt 13.04 lts'ed longer than 12.04 lts
[18:35] <Slart> !lts
[18:35] <mryanbrown> histo, cold boot it is
[18:35] <DJones> mryanbrown: 13.04 isn't lts
[18:35] <mryanbrown> im talking full power cycle from a running os
[18:35] <newtothis> what are some daily command-type things you seasoned ubuntu-ers do to keep things running smoothly?
[18:35] <mryanbrown> is it 14.04?
[18:35] <LucidDreamZzZ> 12.04 _is LTS
[18:35] <mryanbrown> i havent looked @ the lts chart in a bit
[18:35] <histo> mryanbrown: 14.04 will be lts yes
[18:35] <mryanbrown> but 12.04 has a short lts lifespan
[18:35] <[1]tom> mryan, i dont really know about 13 vs 12 as far as lts
[18:35] <mryanbrown> compared to 10.04
[18:35] <LucidDreamZzZ> its in topic
[18:35] <joshu_> problem solved.
[18:35] <saiarcot895> mryanbrown: the support version for raring and future non-LTS releases was shortened
[18:36] <Slart> newtothis: "command-type things" ? I try to update my system regularily
[18:36] <arunpyasi> hello, how to create bootable mac OS X usb in my ubuntu??
[18:36] <mryanbrown> isnt 14.04 longer than 12.04 though
[18:36] <newtothis> so when 14.04 comes out,  how do i update to it and keep all my data?  that'll be easy, right?
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> [1]tom  http://ubuntuone.com/4ayHg2YG9X77HXtehm8Mts
[18:36] <LucidDreamZzZ> 2017 i think
[18:36] <[1]tom> thanks, monkeydust
[18:36] <LucidDreamZzZ> !12.04
[18:36] <newtothis> Slart:  lol i see, yeah i'm bad at this , thanks mate
[18:36] <arunpyasi> hello, how to create bootable mac OS X usb in my ubuntu??
[18:37] <Slart> newtothis: so far updating ubuntu versions "in place" has been kind of smooth.. just run the updater and wait a while and it's done
[18:37] <usr13> newtothis: If you have separate partition for  /home/  you can do fresh install and keep all your personal files where they are.
[18:37] <[1]tom> looks like 12.04 it is then
[18:37] <genii> mryanbrown: All LTS starting with 12.04 are unified support length with server, so 5 years
[18:37] <newtothis> Slart:  sweet, so when 14.04 or the next LTS is avail.  'sudo apt-get update'  by default installs it?
[18:38] <arunpyasi> hello, how to create bootable mac OS X usb in my ubuntu??
[18:38] <TheBrayn> nope, of course not
[18:38] <Slart> newtothis: well.. no.. apt-get doesn't do that.. but there are other commands that will get you the next version
[18:38] <Slart> !upgrade | newtothis
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> !patience | arunprasadr
[18:38] <usr13> newtothis: Otherwise you can do the normal upgrade porcess, but if you are LTS the normal distribution upgrade process is almost flawless, works just fine almost every time.
[18:38] <newtothis> usr13:   Slart   awesome, thanks guys
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> !patience > arunpyasi
[18:38] <LucidDreamZzZ> like colt 45
[18:39] <Slart> newtothis: you're welcoem
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> arunprasadr, Sorry mis tabed
[18:40] <deepocean1358> usr13, are you still there?
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> arunpyasi, If you are trying to hackentosh you are on the wrong channel
[18:40] <usr13> yes
[18:41] <RaveYoda> arumpyasi, use multisystem
[18:41] <usr13> deepocean1358: Did you re-install?
[18:41] <arunpyasi> RaveYoda: what is that ?? , please help me to create a usb key bootable with mac os x
[18:42] <RaveYoda> arunpasi, if this is just a standard iso then multisystem should do the trick
[18:42] <[1]tom> does anyone have experience with keryx?
[18:42] <RaveYoda> arunpasi, let me get you a link
[18:42] <newtothis> uhhh just now in terminal instead of: "myname@pc:~$"  it was just   ">"  what's that mean?
[18:42] <deepocean1358> usr13, No I am still copying files
[18:42] <usr13> O
[18:42] <RaveYoda> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[18:42] <mryanbrown> i hate pendrive
[18:42] <mryanbrown> i use suse imagewriter
[18:43] <mryanbrown> works like a charm
[18:43] <mryanbrown> or dd
[18:43] <FloodBot1> mryanbrown: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:43] <RaveYoda> arunpyasi, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[18:43] <deepocean1358> usr13, question, I wonder whether I can merge SDB1, SDB2 and SDB3 without losing data. SDB1 and 2 used to contain windows 7\
[18:43] <deepocean1358> http://pastebin.com/EPTdaEkH
[18:43] <RaveYoda> arunpyasi, just install the program. Then start it up
[18:43] <genii> newtothis: Whatever command you issued just prior is waiting for input. If this isn't what you wanted, ctrl-c
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> [1]tom, The channel works with problems stated and part of ubuntu support.
[18:44] <newtothis> genii i see...  thanks
[18:44] <arunpyasi> RaveYoda: will it work fine??
[18:44] <usr13> deepocean1358: No.  You can not "merge" partitions.  YOu can only resize them or delete them or create them.
[18:44] <RaveYoda> arunpyasi, ??? yup. It's easy to use and is handy when you want multiple isoes on one usb as well
[18:44] <deepocean1358> usr13, I remember in Windows' Partion Magic program you could do this
[18:45] <deepocean1358> there is no such program in Linux?
[18:45] <RaveYoda> arunpyasi, i've a video yuy showing it's features as well. it reall good
[18:45] <newtothis> if smuxi is web based.. why do i have to install it?
[18:45] <arunpyasi> RaveYoda: will it work for making Mac OS X snow leopard?
[18:45] <mojo706> gparted
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> deepocean1358, Not merging no
[18:46] <usr13> deepocean1358: No.  You can not "merge" partitions.  You can only resize them or delete them or create them.
[18:46] <RaveYoda> arunpyasi, ido you mean putting it on usb and testing/installing to systems? If so, yes
[18:46] <RaveYoda> arunpyasi, unless it's a kackintosh disk in which case I'm not too sure.
[18:46] <arunpyasi> yes man
[18:47] <xgeek-cub> hello
[18:47] <arunpyasi> RaveYoda: ok
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> newtothis, smuxi looks like a standard IRC app to me.
[18:47] <xgeek-cub> I installed lightdm but now i get blacksecreen and flashing mouse point any ideas?
[18:47] <RaveYoda> arunpyasi, but if you want to "burn" an OS X img to usb this'll do the trick
[18:48] <deepocean1358> usr13, wilee-nilee supposed I delete SDB1,2, can I then add these to SDB3? Or is that merging as well?
[18:48] <RaveYoda> arunpyasi, mind, the usb disk will be re-partitioned so all data on it will be lost
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> deepocean1358,  Is sdb1 the boot partition?
[18:48] <arunpyasi> RaveYoda: oh yeah I have the iso img ,I need to clone to the usb
[18:48] <deepocean1358> usr13, wilee-nilee I mean resize SDB3
[18:48] <usr13> deepocean1358:  I know that what you see about Partition Magic is a claim that you can "merge" partitions, but what it *really* does is make one of them bigger, the other smaller and copies data from one to the other, and then deletes the smaller and again, enlarges the other.
[18:48] <RaveYoda> arunpyasi, how big is your usb disk?
[18:49] <deepocean1358> usr13, wilee-nilee SDB1 and 2 are boot and windows 7
[18:49] <deepocean1358> usr13, that works for me. :)
[18:49] <usr13> deepocean1358: If you would like to use PartitionMagic, see: http://partition-magic.soft32.com/free-download/?lp=adwords&tg=us&kw=_inpage:Home+Windows+System+Utilities+HardDisk+Tools&mt=b&ad=25495257198&pl=&ds=s&gclid=CI7eicajxrgCFYFhMgod33gAiw  (It is actually very good, I've used it myself and like it a lot.)
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> deepocean1358, So you want it all in one partition is this correct?
[18:50] <CheckDavid> I hope I can connect to the internet once I launch ubuntu
[18:50] <deepocean1358> wilee-nilee, Yes
[18:50] <arunpyasi> RaveYoda: 8 gb
[18:51] <deepocean1358> according to this article it cannot be done
[18:51] <deepocean1358> http://superuser.com/questions/135281/linux-combine-two-partitions
[18:51] <RaveYoda> arunpyasi, that should do.
[18:51] <deepocean1358> deleted partition must come after the partition that is to be enlarged
[18:51] <deepocean1358> wilee-nilee, usr13 ^
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> deepocean1358, If this is a standard setup not a uefi you would have to use a recovery or install disc and boot to the terminal and load the bcd to that one partition easily done that partition should be the active one with a boot flag, then otherwise move all your data other than the boot to that partition.
[18:52] <m_tadeu> sometimes some process just starts accessing the disk like mad and freezes my system...how can I make ubuntu automatically kill that process?
[18:52] <deepocean1358> usr13, wilee-nilee only solution that comes into mind is: boot in live USB ubuntu. Merge SDA, copy all SDB into SDA, Merge SDB into 1 block and copy everything back again into SDB and reinstall on SDA
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> deepocean1358, Heh, you have to have the correct boot info in your final partition, part of it is not at this time.
[18:54] <CheckDavid> Is it possible to install ubunto on the average consumer-market tablet?
[18:54] <usr13> deepocean1358: sda11 is 85G and is at the end of the drive. Right?  Why not just delete sda3,4,5,6,7,8,9 & 10 and leave sda11 as is.
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> deepocean1358, It would be helpful to see the bootscript run to se whats actually all there.
[18:54] <RaveYoda> arunpyasi, if that doesn't work for some reason, then unetbootin is pretty good too. But it's hard to put multiple isoes on a usb that way.
[18:55] <arunpyasi> yeah
[18:55] <deepocean1358> wilee-nilee, I posted this earlier: http://pastebin.com/EPTdaEkH
[18:55] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, what kinda tablet?
[18:56] <deepocean1358> usr13, I have no emptied all on SDA
[18:56] <deepocean1358> usr13, I am now fully flexible on SDA to install ubuntu
[18:56] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, not sure. Let's imagine a Samsung galaxy
[18:56] <deepocean1358> usr13 have now* emptied
[18:56] <newtothis> so like "sudo apt-get remove smuxi" would remove it, but not completely right?  and "sudo apt-get --purge remove smuxi" would completely get rid of it right?
[18:56] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, i'm quite sure you can
[18:57] <newtothis> how do you get rid of all things unnecessary....  like... a purge all?
[18:57] <CheckDavid> And would it be the desktop version, or the tablet version?
[18:57] <histo> newtothis: sudo apt-get purge somepackage  will remove the configuration files etc... remove retains them so when you reinstallt he configs stay
[18:57] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, ithough you'll ned to remove unity and use something lighter
[18:57] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, Hak5 on youtube did this some time bacl
[18:57] <usr13> deepocean1358:  Ok.
[18:57] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, with the desktop version?
[18:58] <kapilsharma> ubuntu 12.04 could not installed on compaq presario v5202. Any idea which version can be installed?
[18:58] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, I believe so. It's been about 3-4 months
[18:58] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, I believe so. It's been about 3-4 months ago
[18:58] <CheckDavid> I see. Also another question, does Ubuntu come with any default IRC client?
[18:58] <usr13> deepocean1358:  But was just thinking that 640-90=500  so....
[18:58] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, better to use the server version and build up though
[18:59] <deepocean1358> usr13, 640-90=500?
[18:59] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, maybe good for people that know how to develop etc. I am just a noob =(
[18:59] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, or use Ubuntu Builder and use ubuntuminiremix and build that way
[18:59] <CheckDavid> I see.
[18:59] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, Ubuntu Builder is noob friendly
[18:59] <deepocean1358> usr13, how much does the Ubuntu install take?
[18:59] <kapilsharma> got message bash: /usr/bin/dircolors: Inout/Output error
[18:59] <usr13> deepocean1358:  Well 550, but;  At any rate, if you have the whole 640G dirve free
[18:59] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, do you happen to know if Ubuntu comes with an IRC client pre-installed?
[18:59] <usr13> go for it...
[19:00] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, I've a tut on youtube that'll show you how to use it
[19:00] <usr13> deepocean1358: about 20g or so maybe
[19:00] <ikonia> kapilsharma: sounds like your disk is failing
[19:00] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, It does but I don't recall it's prog
[19:00] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, I use XchatIRC
[19:00] <CheckDavid> That's nice. But what about the new tablet version of Ubuntu? Is it not available yet?
[19:00] <usr13> deepocean1358: You should know, you just installed on something less than 20G
[19:00] <sam113101> Guys, for some reason the font on gtk2 apps doesn't look the same as on gtk3 apps, how can I fix it?
[19:00] <kapilsharma> ikonia: probably unsupportive hardware. its old compaq presario v5202
[19:01] <ikonia> kapilsharma: it's a disk - it's pretty hard to not support a disk
[19:01] <shahan> so smuxi just used my ubuntu username by default... does that mean it has "access" to my ubuntu password?
[19:01] <usr13> deepocean1358: I would not attempt to install any modern OS on less than 40 or 50G
[19:01] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, No clue.... =/ I'm desktop orriented
[19:01] <deepocean1358> usr13, thats my thought as well. I can reinstall Ubuntu on SDA, and tonight I will move everything from SDB to SDA assuming there is more than 490gb space left. And then tomorrow morning, hopefully once laptop is ready, I will repartion SDB into 1 partition and tomorrow night again I will move everything back to SDB and clean SDA
[19:01] <nurupo> how can I install a package libconfig8-dev from quantal, considering i'm on precise? that's what I tried to do https://gist.github.com/nurupo/9082cf8b38912acf32e6
[19:01] <CheckDavid> Sure RaveYoda , thanks anyway. It's not important actually, it was a mere curiosity.
[19:02] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, Would you like me to point you to the Hak5 video as well as my vid on using Ubuntu builder?
[19:02] <kapilsharma> ikonia: any idea what can be done? Its running windows 7 perfectly.
[19:02] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, Ahhhh, ok
[19:02] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, no, very busy, I am on a transition hyou know? From windows to Ubuntu ;)
[19:02] <ikonia> kapilsharma: it sounds like it's either a failure in the disk, or there is file system corruption, most probably a failure in the disk
[19:02] <CheckDavid> =D
[19:03] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, Ahhhh, welcome to linux mate. It's a hard but rewording road
[19:03] <nurupo> any idea what i'm doing wrong?
[19:03] <geri> hi where can i set my proxy...is there some global config file?
[19:03] <shahan> between using wndows and ubuntu, on windows i was using malware bytes pro for anti-virus... should i have ... something like that for ubuntu?
[19:03] <kapilsharma> ikonia: but if disk fails, windows should also not load. right? I even try to run from USB and getting same error.
[19:03] <ikonia> kapilsharma: the disk is "failing" in the same way ubuntu has loaded and is working
[19:03] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, since you use Xchat and you don't know if Ubuntu comes with a default IRC client, I suppose xchat is not the default client Ubuntu comes with, if any.
[19:03] <shahan> does ubuntu... need anti virus crap like that? firewalls and whatnot?  is it built in?
[19:03] <sam113101> Guys, for some reason the font on gtk2 apps doesn't look the same as on gtk3 apps, how can I fix it?
[19:04] <genii> nurupo: The basic thing you're doing wrong.... is trying to install a package from quantal onto precise
[19:04] <usr13> deepocean1358:  I'm not sure you need to change sdb much.  You might consider resizing it's partitions in some way, (that seems *logical* to *you*).
[19:04] <ikonia> shahan: firewalls are built in, it does not need antivirus in the same style as windows based software
[19:04] <usr13> deepocean1358: And Win8 has provisions to resize it's own partition(s).
[19:04] <shahan> ikonia:  what kind of antivirus is it?  it's just unanimous over all flavours?
[19:05] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, Nope. I'm going for a slim build so have removed core ubuntu pkgs
[19:05] <ikonia> shahan: basically you don't need to run an antivirus software stack
[19:05] <shahan> ikonia:  or uhh, firewalls?
[19:05] <ikonia> shahan: the firewall is built into the ubuntu distribtuion
[19:06] <Kunal> I just used this command sudo vi /etc/hosts and edited it , any idea how to save it ?
[19:06] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, yeah, I was thinking that could also be the case
[19:06] <geri> hi where can i set my proxy...is there some global config file?
[19:06] <RaveYoda> kunal, ctrl+x button
[19:06] <CheckDavid> Well RaveYoda, it's time for me to shutdown windows, and hopefully never come back =)
[19:06] <RaveYoda> kunal, press y
[19:06] <RaveYoda> kunal, then enter
[19:06] <Pici> Kunal: :x
[19:06] <shahan> ikonia: any way to view or edit it?
[19:07] <ikonia> !ufw | shahan
[19:07] <Pici> Kunal: or :w then :q
[19:07] <Kunal> kk let me try
[19:07] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, wait,
[19:07] <CheckDavid> >For what? I mean, never come back to windows, not here =)
[19:07] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, just in case, sudo apt-get install xchat should get you the irc client
[19:08] <CheckDavid> I am so sad that Copy paste won't work between reboots
[19:08] <CheckDavid> lol
[19:08] <CheckDavid> kidding
[19:08] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, if not, use their package manager to find it
[19:08] <savagejen> does anyone know where the package for the ubuntu touch shell is located? NOT the images you flash to the devices, but just the ubuntu touch shell itself?
[19:08] <CheckDavid> I will find my way =)
[19:08] <CheckDavid> At least as long as I can connect to the internet
[19:08] <CheckDavid> see ya =D
[19:08] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, write it dwn??
[19:08] <CheckDavid> I can memorize, i was just joking
[19:08] <CheckDavid> Because I actually used Linux in the past
[19:08] <CheckDavid> I used Puppylinux
[19:08] <CheckDavid> But then Windows sucked me back in
[19:08] <Kunal> ah thx
[19:09] <usr13> ikonia: That is an interesting factoid, (not completely factual/true).
[19:09] <RaveYoda> kunal, it worked?
[19:09] <ikonia> usr13: I was just thinking it needed a few tweaks
[19:09] <ikonia> usr13: feel free to same me the pain and submit an update
[19:09] <Kunal> the one that pici said worked
[19:09] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, ahhh puppy; i love it
[19:09] <usr13> ikonia: It's minor but... a little off.
[19:09] <usr13> ikonia: ok
[19:10] <sam113101> Guys, for some reason the font on gtk2 apps doesn't look the same as on gtk3 apps, how can I fix it?
[19:10] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, but you used the non debian based pup right?
[19:10] <lmat> Oh my, I just tried to visit ubuntu forums... sheesh
[19:10] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, I don't remember to be honest, i used the most standard one
[19:10] <CheckDavid> I think I stopped using it at 5.3
[19:11] <LucidDreamZzZ> Puppy needs RDC/VNC
[19:11] <LucidDreamZzZ> RDP*
[19:11] <deepocean1358> usr13, in the new install would you recommend I create 1 or 2 partions?
[19:11] <LucidDreamZzZ> and raid
[19:11] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, ok, but puppy is waayy diffrent from ubu. =p the cli lines anyway. They have an ubu based version now but not back 2yrs ago
[19:11] <deepocean1358> usr13, or create: SDA1: /boot, SDA2, SWAP (8GB?), SDA3: / and SDA4: /Data
[19:12] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, another point, one of the things that is pushign me to linux. Is that I need it to do an online course, that will require some linux console functions.
[19:12] <usr13> deepocean1358: 2 at least.  Ideally 3 (in my opinion).
[19:12] <CheckDavid> I am not yet totally sure about what I am doing. But yeah, I will do it since I don't have a VPS service or anything of the sort.
[19:12] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, hey, why dont you use wubi insted and keep windows?
[19:12] <imark> RaveYoda: theres been an ubuntu based puppy for years now,
[19:12] <deepocean1358> usr13, how would that look like
[19:12] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, that's what I did, shamefully.
[19:12] <imark> RaveYoda: since lucid
[19:12] <RaveYoda> imark, yeah, 2yrs or so
[19:13] <imark> over 3
[19:13] <shahan> do most people have the ufw enabled?  is it good?
[19:13] <th0r> CheckDavid, why not run a distro in virtualbox?
[19:13] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, wait, you're using Wubi atm?
[19:13] <usr13> deepocean1358: 1) 8G swap 2) 40G /  (type=ext4)   3) 5XXG /home/ (type=ext4) (the rest of the drive, to the end).
[19:13] <CheckDavid> th0r, because using ubuntu directly seems better to me. MAybe I am wrong?
[19:14] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, yes I am. It installed already.
[19:14] <deepocean1358> usr13, you do not separate /boot  ?
[19:14] <gordonjcp> RaveYoda: wubi is dead
[19:14] <th0r> CheckDavid, I don't know, but it seems changing to linux just for a bit of course work is overkill
[19:14] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, or are you going for dool boot today? or full install?
[19:14] <CheckDavid> I did Dual boot I think.
[19:14] <usr13> deepocean1358: The first, an 8G swap partition, the second 40 or 50G for system files, and the rest for /home/ (personal files).  You can have a fat32 one too if you like, maybe at the and as you had before.
[19:14] <RaveYoda> gordonjcp, i was inaware of that
[19:14] <gordonjcp> RaveYoda: it's crap
[19:15] <CheckDavid> Thor, why is it overkill? In the past I changed to Linux (puppy linux) for no specific extra functionality. I was maybe looking for some sort of simplicity.
[19:15] <RaveYoda> gordonjcp, in your humble opinion
[19:15] <usr13> deepocean1358: You can have a separate /boot/ partition but not necessary.  (I don't ever do it, don't see much need for it.)
[19:15] <gordonjcp> RaveYoda: it's slow, it doesn't really work, and the vast majority of people who come in here with weird intractable problems are using it
[19:15] <gordonjcp> RaveYoda: I have sound technical reasons for calling it crap
[19:15] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, use Linux Mint for simplicity
[19:15] <gordonjcp> RaveYoda: if you've got the rest of the evening free, I can explain them in all their painful detail
[19:16] <CheckDavid> Oh, but yeah, I guess I am going for Ubuntu now, for Distro Choosing Simplicity.
[19:16] <CheckDavid> lol
[19:16] <gordonjcp> CheckDavid: it's a good choice
[19:16] <th0r> CheckDavid, I use linux exclusively, so don't misunderstand. But if I just wanted it for some coursework and already had my world set up in windows I would definitely consider just throwing something into virtualbox until the course was over
[19:16] <RaveYoda> gordonjcp, Fiinnee, it is crap. But it's better than Windows
[19:16] <gordonjcp> RaveYoda: it's horribly slow
[19:16] <geri> where can i set my proxy...is there some global config file?
[19:16] <geri> system wide
[19:17] <gordonjcp> RaveYoda: it's much, much slower than a native fs, even slower than running from a USB drive
[19:17] <deepocean1358> usr13, the thing is prefer having data separated from OS directories, even /Home
[19:17] <RaveYoda> gordonjcp, meehh,
[19:17] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, Ahhhhh
[19:17] <CheckDavid> th0r, I have been preparing myself to go back to linux all these years. INcluding not depending on software that only exists for windows for example.
[19:17] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, well....
[19:17] <histo> CheckDavid: alternativeto.net
[19:18] <RaveYoda> checkdavid,then use Ubu in dool boot bro. It'll save you one day
[19:18] <histo> CheckDavid: or just keep a windows vm around just incase
[19:18] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, I think that's what wubi does right?
[19:18] <usr13> deepocean1358: Yes, I agree.  (That is why I recommend 3 partitions.  One for swap, one for /  and one more for /home/
[19:18] <geri> where can i set the proxy system wide in ubuntu...is there a config file?!?!
[19:18] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, well... no.
[19:18] <CheckDavid> What!?
[19:19] <CheckDavid> I installed already
[19:19] <CheckDavid> LOL
[19:19] <deepocean1358> usr13, can I have SDA1 8GB Swap, SDA2 50Gb / (including home), SDA3 FAT32
[19:19] <CheckDavid> Did my windows go kaboom?
[19:19] <CheckDavid> lol
[19:19] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, Wubi is like an virtual machine but not??
[19:19] <histo> RaveYoda: no wubi is not a vm
[19:19] <CheckDavid> Man no idea :(
[19:19] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, ask gordanjcp
[19:19] <CheckDavid> ON the website it looked like dual boot auto installer for windows (
[19:19] <CheckDavid> maybe I did it too fast :(
[19:19] <deepocean1358> CheckDavid, what made you make the switch?
[19:19] <RaveYoda> hiso, which is why i said like but not
[19:19] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, ask gordanjcp
[19:19] <shahan> would any seasoned ubuntu user say that the UFW is necessary and essential?
[19:20] <sam113101> help
[19:20] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, no it's ok, I downloaded it from ubuntu.com, windows installer, I am sure it is dual boot
[19:20] <deepocean1358> shahan, what UFW
[19:20] <CheckDavid> deepocean1358, leap of faith
[19:20] <RaveYoda> shahan, ufw is a firewall manager
[19:20] <CheckDavid> lol
[19:20] <gordonjcp> RaveYoda: ask me what?
[19:20] <RaveYoda> shahan, use gufw
[19:20] <geri> ?
[19:21] <LucidDreamZzZ> so many (dumb) bloggers say just make a / and swap
[19:21] <RaveYoda> gordonjcp, What iisss Wubi exactly?? Not vm but like one yet not??
[19:21] <LucidDreamZzZ> now everyone think it ok
[19:21] <deepocean1358> CheckDavid, the only piece of software that was holding me back was: MS Office
[19:21] <shahan> wait so then what does "sudo ufw enable"  do?
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> shahan, Your question is faulty in so many ways, you want empirical or opinions, how wpuld any of us know that anyway.
[19:21] <shahan> tthat doesn't turn on like... a default firewall?
[19:21] <CheckDavid> Ok, i was discussing with some guy how I needed a linux vps or something and he suggested me the following: " no problem....all u need is to use ur linux terminal to push code to github and your heroku account...that is the only reason a console is needed and to edit files...if your main operating system is ubuntu thats even better"
[19:21] <RaveYoda> shahan, it enables ufw
[19:21] <deepocean1358> CheckDavid, I understand MS Office 2010 runs smoothly on PLAYONLINUX though
[19:22] <RaveYoda> shahan, ufw is an overlay for managing the iptables of linux
[19:22] <CheckDavid> deepocean1358, I don't use MS OFfice anyway
[19:22] <deepocean1358> CheckDavid, lucky you, I have no choice
[19:22] <RaveYoda> shahan, it's to manage hopw your sys handles tcp/ip/udp/ all protocals in linux
[19:22] <histo> LucidDreamZzZ: it is okay other than efi based systems you need a fat32 boot
[19:22] <usr13> deepocean1358: We use libreoffice or OpenOffice
[19:22] <dolm> Hey guys, please could you help me. Do ubuntu touch still run on the android kernel?
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> wine is for drinking, period. ;)
[19:22] <deepocean1358> usr13, copying 12minutes left, reinstalling in 12 minutes :)
[19:22] <shahan> wilee-nilee: empirical i guess, but i see your point sir..
[19:22] <usr13> deepocean1358: Why do you not have a choice?
[19:22] <deepocean1358> usr13, we ? where do you work?
[19:22] <histo> LucidDreamZzZ: the reasoning for all these multiple directories being on seperate partitions isn't as relevant as it used to be.
[19:23] <RaveYoda> shahan, iptables are already predefined and ufw allows you to fine tine 'em
[19:23] <Ruint> if you add backports to your sources.list, do you need to make an apt/preferences file pinning it lower than your main repos, or do the main repos automatically take precedent ?
[19:23] <deepocean1358> usr13, major banks all use MS Office
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> shahan, Its hard to get info I know. ;)
[19:23] <CheckDavid> ok
[19:23] <CheckDavid> I will JUMP NOW!
[19:23] <usr13> deepocean1358: Oh, I see.  Ok.
[19:23] <shahan> RaveYoda:  ahhh so enabling it doesn't actually protect me from anything right?
[19:23] <CheckDavid> Wish me luck
[19:23] <CheckDavid> bye
[19:23] <histo> !backports | Ruint
[19:23] <FloodBot1> CheckDavid: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:23] <RaveYoda> shahan, you're already protected
[19:23] <LucidDreamZzZ> should make seperate partitions for other stuff like /tmp, maybe /var and /opt, possibly /usr if you compile apps
[19:23] <Ruint> ...
[19:23] <LucidDreamZzZ> idk wtf ppl thinking
[19:23] <deepocean1358> usr13, did you see my last suggestion? about partitioning?
[19:23] <shahan> RaveYoda:  as a long time windows user, that's blowing my mind
[19:23] <xgeek-cub> I installed lightdm but now i get blacksecreen and flashing mouse point any ideas?
[19:23] <Ruint> histo: ty, but that is only tangentally related to my question
[19:23] <histo> shahan: you're most likely protected already from NAT
[19:24] <RaveYoda> shahan, ufw or better than that gufw allows for finer handling of those iptables
[19:24] <histo> !best | LucidDreamZzZ
[19:24] <usr13> deepocean1358: No, what was it?
[19:24] <deepocean1358> usr13, can I have SDA1 8GB Swap, SDA2 50Gb / (including home), SDA3 FAT32
[19:24] <shahan> RaveYoda:  i uh.. i um.. don't know how to hand iptables...
[19:24] <karamel4e> Hello, please help. I upgraded to 13.04 but it seems like a clean install. I mean my personal files and gone.. or hidden or I don't know what else. Any ideas?
[19:24] <Ruint> histo: there's an exception to that rule called irssi
[19:24] <histo> Ruint: not if you read it you will learn how to use backports
[19:24] <shahan> *handle
[19:24] <histo> Ruint: and it will answer your questions
[19:24] <RaveYoda> shahan, you really don't need it unless you want to really buckle your system down.
[19:25] <noiro> Can someone help me with Youtube videos? When I fullscreen, and move the mouse, the pause, volume, and quality bar is too far below my screen. I am fairly certain it is not a video resolution issue
[19:25] <RaveYoda> shahan, iptables are waaayyy to advanced you you atm. And me for that matter
[19:25] <histo> karamel4e: did you look in /home/username?
[19:25] <usr13> deepocean1358: Yes you can but wouldn't you rather have a separate partition for /home/?
[19:25] <shahan> i see...  RaveYoda  so Ubuntu by default doesn't need like AVG running in the background eating my memory crap.. or antivirus. scanning w.e. bullshit?
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> noiro, the bar is not popping up, or when it does it is to low?
[19:25] <histo> !av | shahan
[19:26] <shahan> :O
[19:26] <LucidDreamZzZ> i just think there is a correct way not best per say
[19:26] <histo> !language | shahan
[19:26] <RaveYoda> shahan, don't worry, you don't need to handle iptables. And yes you are correct
[19:26] <Pici> noiro: after waiting for it to fade the controls out, can you bring them up fully again by mousing down there?
[19:26] <gordonjcp> RaveYoda: no, what happens is that the kernel is mounting the Windows filesystem, then mounting the Linux filesystem which is stored on a file in the Windows partition
[19:26] <gordonjcp> LucidDreamZzZ: "per se"
[19:26] <histo> LucidDreamZzZ: That's your opinion
[19:26] <noiro> wilee-nilee, it is too low. AFter a little while, I will move my mouse and occasionally can bring them up again
[19:26] <shahan> dont... need?  .. antivirus?
[19:26] <deepocean1358> usr13, what if I decide to take this disc out and stick into another laptop. Then I cant read it becuase it is ext4 and not NTFS/FAT32
[19:26] <usr13> deepocean1358: And the above scheme only allows for 58G for the entire Linux install.  (When it is a 640G drive?)
[19:26] <LucidDreamZzZ> ^
[19:26] <gordonjcp> shahan: there are no Linux viruses
[19:26] <histo> LucidDreamZzZ: and offtopic
[19:26] <histo> gordonjcp: yes there is
[19:26] <noiro> They will come up all the way, but it is not always guarenteed
[19:26] <gordonjcp> histo: [citation needed]
[19:26] <RaveYoda> gordanjcp, ahhhhh...so complex wubi...why oh why
[19:26] <deepocean1358> usr13, isnt 60gb enough for a linux install?
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> noiro, Hmm, not sure, I assume your not using f11.
[19:27] <histo> gordonjcp: there was a virus in a screen saver on gnome-look a while back
[19:27] <usr13> deepocean1358: Here is an idea:  8G swap  50G /   80G /home/  and leave the rest un-partitioned.  You can make a large FAT32 partition out of it afterward.
[19:27] <Pici> noiro: I've been seeing that on my Windows install recently, it might be a thing with Chrome (I'm on the dev channel) or with Youtube itself,.
[19:27] <gordonjcp> RaveYoda: handy hint - you keep mis-spelling my name, so instead of typing it in wrongly type gord<TAB> and see what happens
[19:27] <noiro> f11? It's weird, the bar will minimize, and moving my mouse shows some but won't bring it up. Flash version bug? I'm on Firefox
[19:27] <gordonjcp> histo: not a virus, a trojan
[19:27] <histo> gordonjcp: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/12/malware-found-in-screensaver-for-ubuntu
[19:27] <gordonjcp> histo: totally different
[19:27] <Ruint> histo: oic, the guy i'm trying to stop from installing znc from source is using 12.04, so he doesn't need to bother with pinning
[19:27] <deepocean1358> usr13, out of the /home
[19:27] <deepocean1358> ?
[19:27] <RaveYoda> gordonjcp, ohhh....
[19:27] <Ruint> the last time i had to do anything like that myself i was using debian squeeze, so my knowledge isn't exactly current
[19:28] <Ruint> histo: ty
[19:28] <deepocean1358> usr13, I can convert the /home ext4 into FAT32 later on?
[19:28] <gordonjcp> RaveYoda: \o/
[19:28] <RaveYoda> gordonjcp, sorry about that.
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> noiro, f11 full screens stuff as well
[19:28] <shahan> Ruint:  is your username a Wolves of the Calla reference?!
[19:28] <gordonjcp> RaveYoda: you learned a new trick!
[19:28] <histo> Ruint: you have to specify that you want to install a package from backports it doesn't just update all packages to those versions
[19:28] <gordonjcp> RaveYoda: you just levelled up on IRC ;-)
[19:28] <RaveYoda> gordonjcp, Thanks for the hint. reaaally helpful
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> a little differently
[19:28] <Ruint> wait
[19:28] <Ruint> it was sarge not squeeze
[19:28] <LucidDreamZzZ> if someone asks how to partition disk you tell them what?  admittedly there are many choices but saying / and swap fine is braindead
[19:28] <Ruint> shahan: no, the nick ruin was taken
[19:29] <Ruint> shahan: XD
[19:29] <RaveYoda> gordonjcp, I just started usin g irc last night
[19:29] <shahan> Ruint: ohh xD
[19:29] <gerep> Hi all.I just installed Safari on PlayonLinux but it never loads any page, someone been through that?
[19:29] <LucidDreamZzZ> tab ftw
[19:29] <usr13> deepocean1358: How much is enough is subjective.  It depends on what you do with your Operating System and how many and how large of files you save or keep on it.  Yes 60G is enogh.  20G is enough (but does not leave much room.  If you use 60G, then just go with 2partitions.  One 8G for swap, the other for /  (including home).
[19:29] <RaveYoda> shahan, are you set?
[19:29] <th0r> LucidDreamZzZ, you have some interesting opinions
[19:30] <LucidDreamZzZ> ive been Linux admin since 98 so i do have opinions
[19:30] <bazhang> !ot | LucidDreamZzZ
[19:31] <LucidDreamZzZ> and they are mostly correct as well
[19:31] <th0r> LucidDreamZzZ, and I have been workign with linux since the early 80's....so I know better
[19:31] <LucidDreamZzZ> what distro
[19:31] <bazhang> thats enough LucidDreamZzZ
[19:31] <OerHeks> please stop this flamewar
[19:32] <deepocean1358> usr13, I am trying to figure out what I will put in /home that would fill up 80gb (not being cynical). With other words Ubuntu+Office 2010 = 30gb?
[19:33] <histo> !partition | LucidDreamZzZ
[19:33] <RaveYoda> deepocean1358,  nooo, soo wrong
[19:33] <gerep> anyone?
[19:33] <LucidDreamZzZ> yeah sec i look
[19:33] <LucidDreamZzZ> thx histo
[19:33] <usr13> deepocean1358: I would say that anything less than 70 or 80G, just go with 2 partitons.  What you put in /home/ is all of your personal files.  At first, it will be totally empty, from that point on, who knows>>>(only you).
[19:34] <OerHeks> gerep, i read about that and a solution >> http://techhamlet.com/2012/03/how-to-easily-install-safari-in-linux-the-new-updated-guide/
[19:34] <RaveYoda> deepocean1358, 80gb is more than enough to run happily in Ubu
[19:34] <usr13> !lvm | deepocean1358
[19:34] <jjseeker> I was attempting to install jre and in the process of moving it to /usr/lib I moved it to /usr/bin and now I cannot find the .tar.gz
[19:34] <LucidDreamZzZ> interesting page there not what i would do/recommend
[19:34] <RaveYoda> deepocean1358, unless you torrent
[19:34] <jjseeker> I have also tried using the find command and searching from root
[19:35] <jjseeker> Any advice on how to proceed?
[19:35] <usr13> deepocean1358: As RaveYoda points out, it *all* depends on what you do with it.
[19:35] <usr13> deepocean1358:  The problem is that a new user doesn't have a clue what he/she will do.
[19:36] <karamel4e> Hello again. I know somebody tried to help me but something is happening so I am not able to see who. After upgrade to 13.04 my personal files are gone and the system seems like as it was a clean install. Any ideas, please?
[19:36] <RaveYoda> deepocean1358, usr13 is correct. If you need a word program use Linre
[19:36] <RaveYoda> deepocean1358, an irc, use xchat
[19:37] <deepocean1358> usr13, Ideally for me would be SDA1 /swap, SDA2 /, the rest SDA3  /DATA. I would not use /home to store my torrents but /DATA
[19:37] <RaveYoda> deepocean1358, an  torrenter, transmission
[19:37] <verysoftoiletppr> hi
[19:37] <RaveYoda> deepocean1358, most everything you need will fit 80gb.
[19:37] <usr13> deepocean1358: ... but, it has been my experience that the new user gradually moves from MS Windows to Linux, (tends to use MS Windows less and less as time goes by).  Therefore files end up on Linux.  But the good news is, the partitions can be changed later on.  (Thanks to non-destructive partitioning tools.)
[19:38] <deepocean1358> usr13, only concern is that I will not run out of space if I want to install LINUX programs. Data will be saved separately on /DATA
[19:38] <deepocean1358> usr13, you mean I can change /home (ext4) into FAT32 if I want to ?
[19:38] <verysoftoiletppr> there are 2 addresses in /etc/resolv.conf which I don't know how I placed them there
[19:38] <verysoftoiletppr> there is nothing related in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:38] <usr13> deepocean1358: Yea, and that is fine, you can use the FAT32 DATA directory for torrents / data.
[19:38] <LucidDreamZzZ> its more about security not running out of space
[19:38] <joshu_> noob questions installing xserver-xorg is that a "display manager"?
[19:38] <LucidDreamZzZ> use quota
[19:39] <usr13> deepocean1358: /DATA will *not* be for programs that you install, / will be.
[19:39] <usr13> *(the root directory)*
[19:40] <deepocean1358> usr13, is 80gb for / enough? given that I will use /DATA for data and torrents
[19:40] <usr13> deepocean1358: And that is why that I say if you have allocated 80G or less, use only 2 partitions, (swap and / )
[19:40] <usr13> deepocean1358: Yes
[19:40] <deepocean1358> usr13, ok then I will do: SDA1 /swap (8GB) , SDA2 / (80GB), SDA3 /DATA
[19:40] <Gummo> :)
[19:40] <CheckDavid> Aw, my Ubuntu experience failed
[19:41] <karamel4e> After upgrade to 13.04 my personal files are gone and the system seems like as it was a clean install. There is nothing is /home except the generic dirs (docs, pics, etc) Any ideas, please?
[19:41] <LucidDreamZzZ> waht happened
[19:41] <usr13> deepocean1358: Looks like a plan.  (And again, thanks to non-destructive partitioning tools, that can change later if you want.)
[19:41] <CheckDavid> I tried to boot it, but then it just says something like: preparing to run ubuntu for the first time
[19:41] <deepocean1358> usr13, or should I increase that to 100GB or 120GB?
[19:42] <deepocean1358> btw Ubunutu comes with a very neat Music Player
[19:42] <usr13> deepocean1358: ... it's just a lot easier if you get at least close to what you want from the beginning.  And put the negotiable partitions at the end of the drive.
[19:42] <deepocean1358> I like Rhytymbox
[19:42] <th0r> deepocean1358, I am only using about 5GB for the operating system and software. I put aside 20GB for / and created a separate home for my data files. But the OS itself doesn't require anything near 80GB so long as you are storing most of your stuff in DATA
[19:42] <CheckDavid> Hey RaveYoda  =P
[19:42] <LucidDreamZzZ> mplayer seems nice using gnome-mplayer atm
[19:43] <RaveYoda> joshskidmore, it's more like the base for one
[19:43] <usr13> deepocean1358: 100G would be good.  At first, there will be only about 20% use.
[19:43] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, Heyy, sup?
[19:43] <CheckDavid> Hey =)
[19:43] <CheckDavid> Well, It didn't work.
[19:43] <LucidDreamZzZ> your upgrade broke?
[19:43] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, DX
[19:43] <LucidDreamZzZ> or install
[19:43] <CheckDavid> It wouldn't go through the preparing to run Ubuntu for the first time screen
[19:44] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, OHHH...WAIT...
[19:44] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, OK
[19:44] <LucidDreamZzZ> frozen screen?
[19:44] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, DID YOU GEWT THE ISO ON THE USB?
[19:44] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, oops
[19:44] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, sorry
[19:44] <CheckDavid> NO RaveYoda, I installed with wubi, and made a dual boot.
[19:44] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, ohhh geez
[19:44] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, ok
[19:45] <deepocean1358> usr13, give me a second. I am reconsidering what you were saying earlier again. It makes sense to do like you said: sda1 8gb swap, sda2 50gb /, sda3 /home the rest of GB
[19:45] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, by install you mean you ran the setup and then rebooted? then selected to load into ubu?
[19:45] <CheckDavid> All that is correct, except for selecting, apparently it ran Ubuntu without me selecting anything the first time
[19:46] <CheckDavid> For all other attempts I had to select yes.
[19:46] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, it just sits thetre?
[19:46] <deepocean1358> usr13, Ok I will do: sda1 8gb swap, sda2 60gb /, sda3 /home the rest of GB
[19:46] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, what happens if you press xtrl+alt+f1
[19:47] <CheckDavid> ON windows?
[19:47] <CheckDavid> I am on windows now
[19:47] <CheckDavid> Or you mean on bios, or whatever?
[19:47] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, does it bring you to shell for ubuntu?
[19:47] <LucidDreamZzZ> deepocean1358, how much ram will you have installed?
[19:47] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, umm, no, when it sits at "preping ubu fo..."
[19:47] <deepocean1358> LucidDreamZzZ, 8gb with shared memory for video (intel i5 with duo core and integrated intel graphics)
[19:48] <LucidDreamZzZ> i believe you need at least that for hibernation (if you need it)
[19:48] <LucidDreamZzZ> just checking
[19:48] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, no :( I don't know about those commands, should I do it?
[19:48] <deepocean1358> LucidDreamZzZ, you mean I should reserve more than 8gb?
[19:49] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, When you reboot. Go to ubuntu and try to ernter as you would normaly do. Then when it hangs on that part press ctrl+alt+f1
[19:49] <CheckDavid> That'0s all?
[19:49] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, no
[19:49] <LucidDreamZzZ> no i mean you would typically need at least the amount of RAM thats all no more
[19:49] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, this will bring you to shell
[19:49] <deepocean1358> LucidDreamZzZ, so that would mean at least 8GB or more correct?
[19:49] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, it'll say something like, login
[19:50] <LucidDreamZzZ> i havent set it up may add some swap and give it a go
[19:50] <deepocean1358> does iPhone connect to Linux?
[19:50] <LucidDreamZzZ> deepocean1358, correct
[19:50] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, type your login name and then press enter. I'f you've got a password type that afterwards
[19:50] <sin__tax> what is the best way to copy files from a failing dive to another? I assume CP will run into sectors it cannot read
[19:50] <CheckDavid> And then? What else RaveYoda ?
[19:51] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, then once logged in type startx and that should put you in the gui mode
[19:51] <deepocean1358> usr13, does it make sense to increase /swap from 8gb to more than 8gb given that I have 8gb ram? (for hybernation purposes as LucidDreamZzZ  suggests)
[19:51] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, taht's it?=)
[19:51] <LucidDreamZzZ> a lot of this Debian/Ubuntu stuff is new to me hopefully someone here knows
[19:51] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, if it doesn't come back and tell me what it shows EXACTLY
[19:52] <RaveYoda> yes
[19:52] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, yes
[19:52] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, ctrl+alt+f1 - login on console - startx
[19:52] <CheckDavid> Well. Also, before it loads, for a split seconds I get a message saying something like error, failed prefix
[19:52] <CheckDavid> SOmething about an error and a prefix.,
[19:52] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, yes. It likely wont work. But I want to know what comes up
[19:53] <usr13> deepocean1358: Yes, 8 or 8.5 maybe even 9 but 8 is minimun IMO
[19:53] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, this'll help me fix it
[19:53] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, or it could work and we'll look into seeing why it fails at that point
[19:53] <deepocean1358> usr13, Ok I will make it 10GB
[19:53] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, just a question, can I install it on a USB and run it from there?
[19:53] <usr13> deepocean1358: here is an example I can give you. This is the YL's pc:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5905232/
[19:54] <usr13> deepocean1358: 20G is overkill IMO
[19:54] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, may need to type sudo for styartx
[19:54] <usr13> sorry 10 is overkill
[19:54] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, may need to type sudo startx if just startx wont work
[19:54] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, yes
[19:54] <usr13> deepocean1358: 8 is enough, 9 is more than enough.
[19:54] <usr13> 10 is overkill
[19:54] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, likely faster and easyer that way
[19:54] <RaveYoda> XD
[19:55] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, I want faster and easier :(
[19:55] <CheckDavid> What are the disadvantages of Live Ubuntu?
[19:55] <CheckDavid> Less disk space or something?
[19:55] <karamel4e> After upgrade to 13.04 my personal files are gone and the system seems like as it was a clean install. There is nothing is /home except the generic dirs (docs, pics, etc) Any ideas, please?
[19:55] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, well, then in windows, install unetbootin and get a iso of Ubuntu
[19:55] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, then burn the img to the usb with the unetbootion program
[19:56] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, afterwards, restart OS and boot from  usb
[19:56] <Casey> anyone here familiar with testdisk?
[19:56] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, may need to enter bios to change boot order so that usb comes forst then hdd
[19:57] <CheckDavid> I can change the order.
[19:57] <LucidDreamZzZ> karamel4e, your issue worries me i wish i had ideas
[19:57] <CheckDavid> So Unetbootin you say right?
[19:57] <deepocean1358> usr13, how large are SD2 and SD3?
[19:57] <alvaro_> some boby here already used Backtrack linux?
[19:57] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, that's it, you can test ubuntu and then install as dual boot setup
[19:57] <DJones> !backtrack | alvaro_
[19:57] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, yupp, need me to send a link?
[19:58] <karamel4e> LucidDreamZzZ, everything is reset. Even my keyboard layout.
[19:58] <Casey> DJones: do you have much experience with testdisk?
[19:58] <LucidDreamZzZ> ugh sorry to hear, i noticed your first post and just cringed
[19:58] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, apparently i CAN Skip one of your steps
[19:58] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, if you want simplicity then use Linux Mint Mate edition
[19:59] <CheckDavid> Unetbootin already installs ubuntu automatically
[19:59] <DJones> Casey: Sorry, I've never needed it
[19:59] <deepocean1358> usr13, so you have 8gb swap, 100gb / and the rest for /home?
[19:59] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, ummmmmm...? As in it gets the iso then burns it to usb?
[20:00] <karamel4e> Anyone else? After upgrade to 13.04 my personal files are gone and the system seems like as it was a clean install. There is nothing is /home except the generic dirs (docs, pics, etc) Any ideas, please?
[20:00] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, or litterally installs it?
[20:00] <ggherdov> hi all. I have to promote ubuntu to a friend who's on MS Win. What's the sexiest youtube video out there that show off how awesome ubuntu is? I am looking for something of the caliber of this one from the linux foundation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVpbFMhOAwE
[20:00] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, I think it gets the iso
[20:00] <Casey> DJones: can you answer me this, is there a simple way of undeleting a folder (with its file contents) if no modification has been done to the drive since the accidental deletion? raid1 ext4 format
[20:00] <deepocean1358> usr13, Ok I will do: sda1 9gb swap, sda2 60gb /, sda3 /home the rest of GB
[20:00] <deepocean1358> usr13, rebooting
[20:01] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, Oh, ok. =P It's been a bit sense I used Unet...
[20:01] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, also, if I already have stuff in my USB drive, can I still install it there?
[20:01] <RaveYoda> usr13, why'd you tell him 9gb swap
[20:02] <RaveYoda> usr13, no one really needs that much
[20:02] <DJones> Casey: Its not something I've had to do, the only suggestions I could give are ones I've seen mentioned to you earlier on (an even then, it would probably be limited to what ubottu knows)
[20:02] <RaveYoda> usr13, sure, maybe 2-3 but not 9
[20:02] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, Meaning?
[20:02] <Slart> ggherdov: you can never out-dazzle the competition in this case.. if all it takes to make a person switch is a sexy youtube-video then he/she will be gone the next time someone releases something new.. be it nintendo, microsoft or whatever. Just tell plain facts about what works and what doesn't
[20:02] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, ill it be safe? No, it wipes the usb
[20:02] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, oh ok
[20:03] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, iSAVE all data you want then proceed
[20:03] <Casey> DJones: yeah I've gone the route others have suggested but not coming up with much find. I didn't know you were here when asked before, thought I would pick your brain.
[20:03] <ggherdov> Slart: fair point.
[20:06] <CheckDavid> Rave it asks something.
[20:06] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, What's it asking?
[20:06] <CheckDavid> It says - Space to preserve files across reboots
[20:06] <CheckDavid> And asks me to set the amount of MBs
[20:07] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, OK, sorry, what is asking this? Is it Unet? Or something else?
[20:07] <CheckDavid> Unetbootin
[20:07] <CheckDavid> And the question kinda sucks =/
[20:08] <CheckDavid> How can I know what to input? =/
[20:08] <CheckDavid> And why do I even need to input that value? Can't ubuntu seem how much is left on the drive?
[20:08] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, If it's Unet then that's the persistance cache which is used for live iso usage. set it to 100mb
[20:09] <CheckDavid> Done =)
[20:09] <ItsHorst> Is this channel only for support or also general Ubuntu talk like the maybe upcoming ubuntu phone?
[20:09] <CheckDavid> NOw it is installing.
[20:09] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, sense you're making a live usb, you realy wont need that because you're turning arround and going to set up a dual boot
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> !phone | ItsHorst
[20:09] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, no. Fuck Dual boot. Live ubuntu FTW!
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> CheckDavid  mind your language
[20:10] <DJones> ItsHorst: This channel is just for support, #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-touch are probably the best places to discuss the phone
[20:10] <ItsHorst> Thank you!
[20:10] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, then you need more like 4gb
[20:10] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, -.-
[20:10] <CheckDavid> Oh...
[20:10] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, not 100mb
[20:10] <karamel4e> Anyone else? After upgrade to 13.04 my personal files are gone and the system seems like as it was a clean install. There is nothing is /home except the generic dirs (docs, pics, etc) Any ideas, please?
[20:10] <CheckDavid> Raveyoda, would 2 GBs do?
[20:10] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, trool face lolllzzzz
[20:11] <CheckDavid> WHy 4 GB ? I am still a bit confused
[20:11] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, sure
[20:11] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, set it up for how much you think you'll need
[20:11] <Pici> karamel4e: How did you upgrade?
[20:11] <LucidDreamZzZ> awwww yea xeyes!  now my Ubuntu desktop is d0pe yo!
[20:11] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, does this mean I have my whole OS on the pen drive like Puppy?=P
[20:12] <IdleOne> CheckDavid: No swearing in here please.
[20:12] <karamel4e> Pici, thru the update manager
[20:12] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, your usb is 8gb, correct? the "root" only needs about 3gb really
[20:13] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, no, I have a 4gb one
[20:13] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, so I was going for 4gb cause that's about what remains after roots slice is taken
[20:13] <Pici> karamel4e: Do you have an encrypted home directory?
[20:13] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, oohhhhh.... 2gb will do
[20:13] <CheckDavid> Won't work?
[20:14] <CheckDavid> Oh ok =)
[20:14] <karamel4e> Pici, no, as far as I know
[20:15] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, Also, this is a Live install. NOT an install where litterally ubu is fully uncompressed and set up like a real sys
[20:15] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, what am I losing then?
[20:16] <Pici> karamel4e: Are there any extra paths in /home/  (not /home/username/) ?
[20:16] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, OS upgrades, ummm and it is more or less limited to the pkgs set on the iso.
[20:18] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, the 2gb of persistent mem is there to store files rather than add or upgrade programs and the system
[20:18] <CheckDavid> Oh, that's all ? =)
[20:19] <CheckDavid> Can't I install programs on that storage space?
[20:19] <tmcclelland47> I was wondering if the latest distro of Ubuntu will work on a Dell OptiPlex GX260. Can anyone help with this?
[20:19] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, as far as I know
[20:19] <CheckDavid> Such as Xchat for example?
[20:19] <Dr_willis> persistant storage on a live usb RaveYoda ? Its used to store installed apps and any changes made to the live setup. and the users home files
[20:19] <LucidDreamZzZ> !hardware | tmcclelland47
[20:19] <natix> hi all
[20:19] <tmcclelland47> Alright. Cool. Thanks!
[20:20] <LucidDreamZzZ> np good luck
[20:20] <RaveYoda> Or_willis, rly? it nev er worked for me
[20:20] <normunds> Im in ubuntu! What next?  :)
[20:20] <deepocean> usr13, hello :)
[20:20] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda, worked fine for me for years.. thats how it was designed.
[20:20] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, listen to Dr_willis on the storage setup
[20:21] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  its easy to fillup the persistant save. and you really shouldent use it as a long term answer. just testing the disrto out
[20:21] <arunpyasi> guys any one have knowlege about hackintosh ??
[20:21] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, so I was right in my assumption that I can store the stuff I install through the pkg mnger right?
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> arunpyasi  wrong channel
[20:21] <Pici> arunpyasi: no. This channel is for Ubuntu support only.
[20:21] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis,  Ok,  i was doing something wrong then for installing programs
[20:22] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  just the normal apt-get install whatever, should work on a live cd+persistant setup
[20:22] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, lDr_willis is correct on it being short term more than long term
[20:22] <arunpyasi> Pici: yeah , I am in ubuntu and I am wanting to test the stuff Mac from booting form the usb
[20:22] <ashwani> hi
[20:22] <CheckDavid> I don't get what it means to be short term rather than long term
[20:23] <ashwani> hello
[20:23] <Dr_willis> dont use it for weeks/mobnths on end.. if you want that. do a real install
[20:23] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis,  would you help him out with that question
[20:23] <normunds> hello you too :)
[20:23] <Pici> arunpyasi: Okay? but that doesn't mean can support everything that you'd ever want to do on Ubuntu.  We can only support Ubuntu things here.
[20:24] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis,  but a real install to his 4gb usb wont work?
[20:24] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis,  it's too big to go on it
[20:24] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  it will be tight. Id suggest 8gb+   and face it.. you can get 16gb usb flash drives for in the $10 range these days
[20:24] <Dr_willis> Lubutnu would e better on that small a usb
[20:24] <CheckDavid> Dr_willis, what would happen if I used it for months? =O
[20:25] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis,  OH yeeahhh, but i'm just referencing his situation. Not the future setups for it
[20:25] <Dr_willis> CheckDavid,  you would fill it up with data i imagine, and  updates can often break the live-cd-setup
[20:25] <Dr_willis> and on a live-persstant setup - getting the nvidia/ati and other xpecial drivers working. can be a pain
[20:26] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, He is correct
[20:27] <LucidDreamZzZ> tmcclelland47, hey a better idea is maybe download latest live cd and give it a whirl..  Thankfully most stuff will probably just work.
[20:27] <MidnightNinja> does anyone use an alternative gui( like cinnamon)?  Just looking for what others run since I don't like unity, and cinnamon is a bit too small for my tastes
[20:27] <RaveYoda> MidnightNinja, try Mate, or Gnome
[20:28] <MidnightNinja> thanks RaveYoda! Ill look into those
[20:28] <LucidDreamZzZ> or live iso i guess nobody uses cds
[20:29] <RaveYoda> MidnightNinja, or you can go for uber light and use Openbox for the desktop and Razorqt-pannel for duuh the pannel then Nitrogen as your wallpaper manager
[20:29] <DWSR> Is there any way to make ssh-agent start on tty login and load keys that are password protected?
[20:29] <LucidDreamZzZ> MidnightNinja, yeah i second that openbox
[20:29] <DWSR> (I have no X).
[20:30] <RaveYoda> MidnightNinja, It works quite well for me. But does need some getting used to
[20:30] <MidnightNinja> hmm..ill definitely take a look at openbox too then
[20:31] <LucidDreamZzZ> xfce is well integrated
[20:31] <RaveYoda> Also, if you go Openbox then install xcompmger for compositing management. It adds the transparency to the desktop
[20:31] <RaveYoda> MidnightNinja, Also, if you go Openbox then install xcompmger for compositing management. It adds the transparency to the desktop
[20:31] <LucidDreamZzZ> yeah
[20:31] <karamel4e> Pici, thanks again, actually for some reason I was logged as a guest and my original account was in "locked" state.
[20:32] <RaveYoda> MidnightNinja, Unless you're using compiz in which case nvm about xcompmgr
[20:32] <RaveYoda> MidnightNinja, You'll need to get the Razorqt repo to install Razorqt-pannel.
[20:34] <Pici> karamel4e: everything working now?
[20:34] <LucidDreamZzZ> phew
[20:34] <DeaDSouL> hello, is anyone from USA ?
[20:34] <LucidDreamZzZ> i like TWM but maybe thats just me
[20:34] <karamel4e> Pici, yes, I didn't notice the guest account
[20:34] <Pici> karamel4e: great :)
[20:35] <karamel4e> Pici, it is really great. I thought I have lost my files
[20:35] <RaveYoda> MidnightNinja, Also, to fill your Openbox menu install openbox-xdgmenu. To change openbox themes get obconf
[20:35] <LucidDreamZzZ> bravo Pici!
[20:35] <karamel4e> Bravo
[20:35]  * CheckDavid 's Ubuntu.iso download progress - 83%
[20:36] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, XD Coolio
[20:36] <MidnightNinja> huh, theres a lot to checkout with that then
[20:36] <MidnightNinja> i guess its time to play
[20:36] <porcelain> hello!
[20:36] <CheckDavid> lol, what do you mean by Coolio? =P
[20:37] <RaveYoda> MidnightNinja, If you're cool with getting dwn and dirty a bit it's a sweet setup and faaaarrrr lighter thabn Unity
[20:37] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, -shrugs- It's almost done?
[20:38] <vale__> hi, I'll ask here because lubuntu chan seems to be empry
[20:38] <vale__> hi, I'll ask here because lubuntu chan seems to be empty
[20:38] <vale__> I've just installed lubuntu on a PIII computer and, at reboot after the installation, I get nothing but a black flashing screen with mouse pointer on it. the graphic card is an Asus V3005
[20:38] <vale__> sorry for the double post
[20:38] <CheckDavid> 95% download
[20:38] <LucidDreamZzZ> vale__, what happens when you click
[20:39] <RaveYoda> MidnightNinja, Are you on Desktop or laptop?
[20:39] <doomlord> anyone know if jedit or kate can apply folding to a source langauge that they dont recognize (eg Rust) - i just tried loading files in these editors and didn't seem to have the code-folding ability enabled
[20:39] <Pici> CheckDavid: The channel is already busy as it is, we don't need those sort of updates.
[20:39] <deepocean> how do you list your disk partition again? df -l ?
[20:39] <vale__> LucidDreamZzZ absolutely nothing
[20:39] <MidnightNinja> Laptop
[20:40] <k1l> deepocean: sudo fdisk -l
[20:40] <IdleOne> !nomodeset | vale__
[20:40] <deepocean> thanks k1l
[20:40] <CheckDavid> Please accept my apologies Pici.
[20:41] <vale__> ok, someone has answered me on lubuntu channel talking about nomode too
[20:41] <vale__> and ubuntu forum is down
[20:41] <RaveYoda> MidnightNinja, Ahhh, ok
[20:41] <LucidDreamZzZ> try DWM if you like using just the keyboard
[20:41] <LucidDreamZzZ> ;p
[20:42] <RaveYoda> MidnightNinja, Would you like me to give the repo for Razorqt?
[20:42] <LucidDreamZzZ> no bloat at all
[20:42] <CheckDavid> ok, now Unetbootin just stopped =/
[20:42] <CheckDavid> Ok, sorry, false alartm, just incredibly slow apparently while extracting files.
[20:43] <curatrix> CheckDavid: Just wait, it takes a minute at the end of the write
[20:43] <CheckDavid> It was actually at the beginning took around 4 minutes to reach 6%, and then took 1 second to get to around 80%
[20:43] <CheckDavid> So yeah, thanks, now I will expect another hiccup =)
[20:43] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, would you pleas add my name to comments? It makes it easyer to find your post
[20:45] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, unless you are bordcasting it to the general public. This highlits your messages as red for me so that I know you're posting.
[20:46] <CheckDavid> Sure, I am taking that into account. Thanks for reminding me.
[20:46] <CheckDavid> It's nothing important as of now =)
[20:46] <deepocean> usr13, are you still around?
[20:46] <LucidDreamZzZ> !ask
[20:47] <LucidDreamZzZ> deepocean, how you doing?
[20:48] <GunArm> I ran deluged with the option --logfile=~/deluge.log and it actually created a folder IN my home folder named ~
[20:48] <deepocean> LucidDreamZzZ, good, reinstalled Ubuntu, was a breeze. However somehow now I have an extra partition I never created?? http://pastebin.com/NBWgm9U5
[20:48] <deepocean> usr13, check this out ^
[20:49] <deepocean> LucidDreamZzZ, usr13 I am talking about the SDA5 /swap. I never created this. Can I just delete this?
[20:50] <IdleOne> deepocean: it is only 8GB and you probably want it if you plan on hybernating
[20:50] <RaveYoda> MidnightNinja, How goes it?
[20:51] <LucidDreamZzZ> that is an odd layout you have extended with a swap filling it, then two primary partitions
[20:51] <LucidDreamZzZ> how will that boot?
[20:51] <deepocean> IdleOne, please note I have another /swap (SDA1) that is 10GB
[20:51] <IdleOne> deepocean: sda1 is not makred as swap
[20:51] <IdleOne> marked*
[20:51] <Cpudan80> Hello folks
[20:51] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, I isntalled it and it says 408Kb free on my USB drive lol
[20:51] <LucidDreamZzZ> i thought /boot had to be near beginning of disk
[20:52] <Cpudan80> Does anyone know if there is an ovirt-engine package for Ubuntu 12.04 (or newer) ?
[20:52] <deepocean> IdleOne, ah shoot I see. Can I make that swap and remove SDA5?
[20:52] <Cpudan80> ovirt seems to indicate that you have to compile it from source
[20:52] <CheckDavid> What? So weird, I just checked the US files, and Wubi.exe is in there RaveYoda
[20:52] <pierre1> Hi! How do I go about suppressing these warnings "WARNING **: Can't load fallback CSS resource: Failed to import: The resource at '/org/gnome/adwaita/gtk-fallback.css' does not exist" everytime I load an application through the terminal?
[20:52] <IdleOne> deepocean: you will need to delete both and then make sda1 swap but yes you can
[20:53] <LucidDreamZzZ> the installer did that deepocean ?
[20:53] <IdleOne> deepocean: you sure there is nothing on sda1?
[20:53] <LucidDreamZzZ> hmm
[20:53] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, That's fine. Your mem is still with that 2gb
[20:54] <joshu_> trim ping ;)
[20:54] <joshu_> trism ping
[20:54] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, As for wubi.exe, yeaahhh I don't know why that's there
[20:54] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, hw do you know?
[20:54] <deepocean> IdleOne, Yes nothing there. So I boot in Live Ubuntu I guess, delete SDA1 and change it into swap. and delete SDA5. Can I resize SDA3 to swallow/include the deleted SDA5?
[20:54] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, leave as is I say,lol
[20:54] <vale__> mh, the nomodeset only gave me the lubuntu logo. apart from that, the screen flashes over and over again
[20:54] <CheckDavid> Oh ok RaveYoda , brb if it goes well ?D
[20:55] <CheckDavid> =D
[20:55] <deepocean> LucidDreamZzZ, I think I may have double created this swap partition.
[20:55] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, how do i know what? and ok
[20:55] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda> CheckDavid, That's fine. Your mem is still with that 2gb <-- this, how you know?
[20:55] <IdleOne> deepocean: after deleting sda5 (swap) you can then extend sda3 to use that space
[20:55] <LucidDreamZzZ> you have 2 MB for MBR thats good grub2 ids bloated..
[20:55] <deepocean> IdleOne, nice
[20:56] <LucidDreamZzZ> but you still need /boot near start of disk i thought...
[20:56] <CheckDavid> Also RaveYoda, it didn't wipe my USB file, a folder I had in there is still there
[20:56] <deepocean> LucidDreamZzZ, who are you talking to about GRUB
[20:56] <bekks> The MBR is always just 448 Bytes.
[20:56] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, oh, the way the mem is read it only sees what's taking the space. Not how it's being taken. I think anyway.
[20:57] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, like is said. been a while sense i used it
[20:57] <CheckDavid> Ok, RaveYoda thanks. I am not sure about whatyou saying but anyway brb =P
[20:57] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid,  I may be thinking of pendrive
[20:57] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid,  ok, good luck
[20:57] <RaveYoda> =p
[20:58] <LucidDreamZzZ> deepocean, sda1 should be / or /boot unless you leave the extended and put /boot inside
[20:59] <trism> joshu_: hello, what's up?
[20:59] <euxneks> how does one write a specific unicode character in ubuntu through the keyboard if one knows the number?
[20:59] <LucidDreamZzZ> and then it will be sda5
[21:00] <curatrix> euxneks: alt and then the char code
[21:00] <deepocean> LucidDreamZzZ, so I messed up again?
[21:00] <euxneks> for instance, unicode character
[21:00] <euxneks> char
[21:00] <euxneks> gar sorry
[21:00] <joshu_> trism have you build custom "ubuntus" with ubuntu mini as a starting point?
[21:00] <curatrix> euxneks: Its been a while, but I think you hold alt and type the number whilst holding alt
[21:00] <joshu_> *built
[21:00] <Ben64> euxneks: usually ctrl+shift+u+number
[21:01] <IdleOne> deepocean: no you didn't
[21:01] <euxneks> ⢁ oh snap Ben64 that's correct. thanks
[21:01] <IdleOne> deepocean: ignore the random comments of the unhelpful :)
[21:02] <deepocean> IdleOne, I wonder sda1 and sda5 have the same start number (2046) and the same end number
[21:02] <trism> joshu_: sure, what's the question?
[21:02] <ryan_12345> hi guys, how do I burn a iso with Ubuntu
[21:02] <ryan_12345> onto a USB
[21:02] <joshu_> trism I have many..to avoid spamming here can we move to PM?
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> !burn | ryan_12345
[21:03] <curatrix> !ask
[21:03] <ryan_12345> MonkeyDust: this is a Windows ISO though
[21:03] <trism> joshu_: I'd rather not, I don't know that I can necessarily answer them
[21:03] <IdleOne> deepocean: that is odd, not sure why. Just continue with the plan to delete sda1 and make it swap. just don't mess with sda2 as that is your boot partition.
[21:03] <joshu_> trism ok no problem let's try here then and anyone else can chime in if needed.
[21:03] <LucidDreamZzZ> well, start over and make sda3 sda1 instead (/), leave sda2 (/home), and make sda3 the swap
[21:04] <Ben64> LucidDreamZzZ: it really doesn't matter what order they're in
[21:04] <LucidDreamZzZ> no?
[21:04] <deepocean> IdleOne, Ok
[21:04] <joshu_> trism as I mentioned I'm building a custom ubuntu for a specific purpose. At the moment I have the base system setup and working on fixing/ configuring what I need.
[21:04] <deepocean> LucidDreamZzZ, sda2 is not home but root
[21:04] <deepocean> brb
[21:04] <vale__> anybody please can help me with "nomodeset" option not working?
[21:05] <Rekenoak> hi, anyone knows how to configure grub in order to boot a mac os partition? My problem: When i select the mac partition, It begins to load until appears a message like "Still waiting for root device". Info: Ive install on a logical partition and mac and his efi partition on a primary partiton.
[21:05] <joshu_> trism I have started with ubuntu min i13.04 then install xserver-xorg, lightdm, notify-osd and light-themes
[21:05] <LucidDreamZzZ> what about /boot will grub find it?
[21:06] <pierre1> hans_henrik is now known as porn
[21:06] <pierre1> ok
[21:06] <IdleOne> LucidDreamZzZ: he doesn't need a separate /boot. Please stop being random and confusing others
[21:06] <LucidDreamZzZ> i didnt say htat
[21:07] <joshu_> trism I still have a lot of work to do, but I'm already researching how to take this custom ubuntu and deploy it to 5 laptops identical hardware. I've read a little about pre seeding, ubuntu builder and someone mentioned clonezilla. If you've done this before what would you suggest?
[21:07] <LucidDreamZzZ> where did i say seperate boot
[21:07] <IdleOne> LucidDreamZzZ: so why keep brining it up if it isn't an issue?
[21:07] <IdleOne> Just please stop with the randomness
[21:07] <RaveYoda> Rekenoak, did you go into ubuntu nand run sudo update-grub
[21:07] <k1l> when installing you just need /. /home and  /swap are optional but in most cases you want them. /boot is just needed for special purposes like encrypting. but then you know you want one
[21:07] <LucidDreamZzZ> the bzimage has to be near start of disk not 8gb inside?
[21:08] <MasterBot> Hello
[21:08] <vale__> joshu_ I've personally used clonezilla many times to do something like that
[21:08] <MasterBot> I would like some help: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=105925
[21:08] <LucidDreamZzZ> not a problem?  idk i guess i always put it there since DHS
[21:08] <LucidDreamZzZ> CHS*
[21:08] <Nach0z> IdleOne: don't believe he means /boot as a separate partition
[21:08] <Nach0z> strictly speaking it's just a directory
[21:09] <LucidDreamZzZ> yea really
[21:09] <LucidDreamZzZ> what is confusing???
[21:09] <LucidDreamZzZ> hmm
[21:09] <LucidDreamZzZ> u guys are funny noobs
[21:09] <Nach0z> not sure how it's relevant because I haven't been paying attention, but yeah.
[21:09]  * curatrix chuckles
[21:09] <joshu_> vale__ I'm currently building the system in a VM on my Mac. Once I'm done would you use clonezilla on that or is it better to rebuild the system on the actual laptop hardware and then clonezilla?
[21:10] <hans_henrik> pierre1, (did it to mess with a bot in an other channel; and freenode dont allow changing nick on just 1 specific channel AFAIK, and i happend to be connected to #ubuntu when doing it,  it had nothing to do with #ubuntu btw)
[21:10] <vale__> joshu_ I would install it first on the actual machine, then clone it with clonezilla, just to be sure
[21:11] <IdleOne> Nach0z: right, in this case /boot being mentioned was not relevant because the / partition which has /boot wasn't being touched.
[21:11] <RaveYoda> Rekenoak, Again, did you go into ubuntu and run sudo update-grub
[21:11] <IdleOne> That other user was just being confusing on purpose for the heck of it
[21:11] <LucidDreamZzZ> you are just funny
[21:11] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, Kernel Panic :(
[21:12] <Ben64> what is the "correct" way to get windows the default in grub?
[21:12] <curatrix> joshu_: On only five machines, it is probably not worth screwing with clones/custom ISO's. I would just write a log and do them all by hand
[21:12] <curatrix> Ben64: Modify the custom40 file and update grub
[21:12] <pierre1> hans_henrik, no problemo
[21:12] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, nmkjhghjkuhfgcgvbghnjhgfdszxfcgbhj
[21:13] <FfoO> Good evening, everyone. Does any one knows any application or command which I can manage to recover my old OS in a new partition using ubuntu precise? I have too much installed to lose everything. Thank you in advance.
[21:13] <Ben64> curatrix: really? i thought that was the hacky way?
[21:13] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, Ok  you'll just have to redo the iso burn
[21:13] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, sorry? lol
[21:13] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, just that?
[21:13] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, Not your fault mate.
[21:13]  * curatrix thinks that if it the way Ive been doing it ....it prolly is the hacky way ;)
[21:13] <Ben64> !recover | FfoO
[21:13] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, Reburn the ubuntu iso ton the usb
[21:14] <wilee-nilee> !details | FfoO
[21:14] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, same iso same usb, just redo?
[21:14] <Ben64> curatrix: thats why i wanted the "correct" way :D I know all the hacky ways to do stuff
[21:14] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, yup
[21:14] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, It happens
[21:14] <wilee-nilee> FfoO, That is hardly enough information
[21:14] <FfoO> The referrence is alwary gold. Thank you so much.
[21:14] <deepocean> Hi
[21:14] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, I sometimes had to do it 3-4 times before it was done right
[21:14] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, oh, can you tell me a bit more as to why this happens?
[21:15] <joshu_> curatrix really manually?
[21:15] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, You can try Pendrive linux instead of unetbootin too
[21:15] <deepocean> Back again
[21:15] <CheckDavid> These things often mystifie me RaveYoda
[21:15] <curatrix> joshu_: Yeah. Five machines shouldnt take long
[21:15] <IdleOne> Ben64: there is a GUI tool to edit grub and what to boot as default, all it does is exactly what curatrix said.
[21:16] <joshu_> vale__ with Windows and cloning you need to do all kinds of shit with sys prep to make sure each clone is different….with ubuntu and clonezilla is this the same or you just clone and they're good to go?
[21:16] <RaveYoda> The program just fails to unpackn the iso to the usb correctly
[21:16] <deepocean> IdleOne: I am now in Ubuntu Live however something very weird is going on
[21:16] <curatrix> IdleOne: Its, cool, Ben64 is a vet
[21:16] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, The program just fails to unpack the iso to the usb correctly
[21:16] <IdleOne> deepocean: exactly what?
[21:16] <Ben64> ok cool. didn't know if there was something like dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc or something that would do it more fancily
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> joshu_, Please don't swear this is a reoccurring thing with you.
[21:16] <RaveYoda> You may need to format the usb to fat32 too
[21:17] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, You may need to format the usb to fat32 too
[21:17] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, i386 is 32 or 64 bits?
[21:17] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, 32  bit
[21:17] <deepocean> IdleOne: as soon as I get into the installer I no longer can see the SDA5
[21:17] <joshu_> curatrix true but repeatability and making sure each one is identical although it is possible if you're meticulous which I am :P I think I would prefer an automated way.
[21:17] <CheckDavid> Oh thanks.
[21:17] <joshu_> wilee-nilee excuse me?!
[21:17] <IdleOne> deepocean: why are you in the installer?
[21:17] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, but it doesn't matter if it's 32 or 64 unless you have more than 4gb RAM
[21:18] <deepocean> IdleOne: I am starting to think I may have messed up the Primary/Logical disk settings
[21:18] <Ben64> RaveYoda: not true, 64 bit does not just allow more memory
[21:18] <CheckDavid> Now I realize how I should have downloaded the iso manually. Apparently when Unetbootin downloads it by himself, it is only stored temporarily, now I have to download again  RaveYoda
[21:18] <IdleOne> deepocean: you should be booting to the live environment and using gparted to edit the partitions
[21:18] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, besides, i386 works on older hardware too
[21:18] <deepocean> IdleOne: how does that work exactly?
[21:18] <curatrix> CheckDavid: Use a torrent  and seed please
[21:18] <deepocean> IdleOne: I think I am in the live environment
[21:19] <meffff> hi
[21:19] <natix> hi
[21:19] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, XD Yupp, it's an annoying part of Unet
[21:19] <BrYku> i disconnected  external monitor and taskbar disappeared (i'm using lubuntu)  what i should do?
[21:19] <CheckDavid> curatrix, I never used torrent software
[21:19] <k1l> deepocean: use a live system and start gparted (that is a grafical partitioning program) then you can hand us a screenshot to understand your setup
[21:19] <IdleOne> deepocean: when you boot the cd/usb it offers you to either Try Ubuntu or Install Ubuntu, you want to Try Ubuntu and work from there
[21:19] <meffff> how to install chandler on ubuntu 12.04?
[21:19] <Ben64> !find chandler
[21:19] <deepocean> k1l: IdleOne Ok will do.
[21:19] <vale__> joshu_ if I've got your question right, you just clone and it's good to go. at least, what I did was installing the OS on the first pc, then I used clonezilla to clone the entire HD, saved on a external HD and then used clonezilla on the other pcs with the HD cloned from the first pc
[21:19] <vale__> that's all, I can't get any more technical, sorry
[21:20] <Ben64> meffff: doesn't appear to be in the repositories, what is it?
[21:20] <meffff> it's not found for me...
[21:20] <meffff> it's a personal manager
[21:20] <deepocean> k1l: made screenshot but where is it saved?
[21:20] <joshu_> vale__ no problem. I'll google clonezilla to find out more. Btw have you used clonezilla over the internet can that be done?
[21:20] <Ben64> meffff: well since its not in the default repos, you have to look for a ppa or something for it, which is not supported here
[21:21] <vale__> joshu_ no, I didn't
[21:21] <ryan123> I want to install windows xp back on my Pc and I think Ubuntu is stooping me for installing it
[21:21] <k1l> deepocean: in /home or in /home/Pictures if you didnt specify another place
[21:21] <IdleOne> ryan123: how is it stopping you from installing windows?
[21:21] <RaveYoda> Ben64, You are correct but that's the bigger point of 64bit.
[21:21] <deepocean> k1l: I check there, nothing there
[21:22] <Ben64> RaveYoda: not really
[21:22] <ryan123> Keeps on giving me errors on the HDD
[21:22] <pierre1> Hi again! How do I go about suppressing these warnings "WARNING **: Can't load fallback CSS resource: Failed to import: The resource at '/org/gnome/adwaita/gtk-fallback.css' does not exist" everytime I load an application through the terminal?
[21:22] <ryan123> and lines of codes are wrong
[21:22] <RaveYoda> Ben64, meh
[21:22] <IdleOne> ryan123: also for help with installing windows you should ask in ##windows
[21:22] <OerHeks> ryan123, did you touch the bios setting [IDE/AHCI] ?
[21:22] <Dr_willis> pierre1,  you can pipe the stderr and stdout to /dev/null      perhaps.
[21:22] <k1l> deepocean: for me its the picture folder in /home
[21:23] <ryan123> OerHeks: I can't rememer shall I check and what shall I do about uijt
[21:23] <OerHeks> ryan123, set it to IDE and you are fine, support in ##windows.
[21:23] <pierre1> Dr_willis, I mean, definitively, like fixing the problem (but not necessarily)
[21:24] <deepocean> k1l: checked again its not there. Any program like paint that I can use to paste the image in?
[21:25] <OerHeks> !find paint
[21:25] <OerHeks> mypaint is cool
[21:27] <RaveYoda> MidnightNinja, Any progress?
[21:30] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, I'll be back in a bit
[21:31] <deepocean> k1l: IdleOne http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/cbfo.png/
[21:34] <unknown_> hi
[21:34] <k1l> deepocean: the sda1 is a primary extended partition. inside of that there is the sda5 which is the swap
[21:34] <unknown_> ok ok people im here
[21:35] <k1l> deepocean: what is that actual problem now?
[21:35] <Casey> any good reason why Ubuntu makes my 1Gb nic run as 100Mb?
[21:35] <IdleOne> deepocean: from that screenshot it doesn't look like you need to do anything :)
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> unknown_, Heh, thanks for the warning.
[21:35] <reisio> Casey: did it used to run higher?
[21:36] <gQuigs> Casey:  sure the ethernet cable is rated at 1 GB?  and the router, etc?
[21:36] <k1l> deepocean: if you want to reinstall anyway i would change a bit, but if not you are fine with that setting
[21:36] <reisio> and all the wiring done properly
[21:36] <reisio> and your ISP
[21:36] <reisio> blah blah
[21:37] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, I'm back
[21:37] <Casey> reisio: never noticed until I happen to glanced at my router and its reporting 100Mb instead of 1Gb its cat5e and less than 20 meter cable.
[21:37] <joshu_> my laptop has an and 7340 graphics card and by default 13.04 uses the open source xserver-xorg-video-ati driver. When I try to adjust the brightness the slider changes, but not the actual brightness. With the proprietary fglrx I don't have this issue.
[21:37] <k1l> deepocean: and the sda2 (labeled boot) is not the /boot its just got a boot flag (which is/was only needed for windows partitions). sda2 should be /, sda3 /home
[21:38] <reisio> Casey: so it may have always been that way
[21:39] <Casey> reisio: router WNDR3700v4; yes could have always ran that way (but this motherboard has only seen ubuntu)
[21:39] <reisio> right, still a problem, just harder to tell if it's a new one :)
[21:39] <deepocean> k1l: how would you install it correctly?
[21:39] <k1l> deepocean: there is no need to reinstall at all.
[21:40] <CheckDavid> hey RaveYoda  =)
[21:41] <curatrix> Casey: Is it integrated onboard? (eg a fixture on the mobo?
[21:41] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, It works?
[21:41] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, ITell me it works
[21:41] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, I did download it again fortunatelly, I am now reinstalling.
[21:41] <deepocean> k1l: you just said I would have done a bit different
[21:42] <Casey> reisio: sigh, just looked at the specs on a different site. Reports only 10/100      pretty crappy for a AM3+ motherboard.... has usb3.0, ddr3,  etc...really? all that and only 10/100...lame sorry to waste time...
[21:42] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, Oh...ok. If it doesn't work this time use pendrivelinux
[21:42] <k1l> deepocean: you did that partitioning on your own?
[21:42] <Casey> Guess I'll have to install a 1Gb card :(
[21:42] <deepocean> k1l: Yes.
[21:42] <reisio> Casey: weird, but
[21:42] <reisio> Casey: onboard :p
[21:42] <curatrix> Casey: You can still add a daughter board that is capable of 1GB/z
[21:43] <curatrix> *1GB/s
[21:43] <CheckDavid> Why wouldn't unetbootin work RaveYoda ?
[21:43] <deepocean> k1l: I have nothing installed yet, if not ideal I would rather change now than later.
[21:43] <reisio> some work when some don't
[21:43] <Casey> curatrix: yeah I have a card lawing around I guess I'll install
[21:43] <reisio> but IME unetbootin is the one that works when others don't :p
[21:43] <Casey> laying around**
[21:43] <reisio> dd is probably the most reliable way, but tricky :)
[21:43] <curatrix> Casey: Break a lege
[21:43] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, 'casuse it hates me and doesn't seem to like you yet.
[21:43] <reisio> and not all USB sticks and mobos and BIOSes work :)
[21:43] <k1l> deepocean: its fine. i put the swap at the end, because i am used to it since the beginning. but now i dont have a swaptoday because i havve 4  gb ram and dont use suspend. i got a ssd which boots faster than suspend is
[21:44] <k1l> deepocean: technically the setup is fine. its just a matter of taste how to arrange the partitions
[21:44] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid,  So we do the logical move of using another program,lol.
[21:44] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, oh ok, so complicated this stuff =(
[21:45] <deepocean> k1l: right and how would you arrange it in my case? btw where is sda4?
[21:45] <andreas1> Hello friends, new linux user here, im in need of some assistance to download and install programs wich isnt supported in my apt
[21:45] <k1l> deepocean: sda4 is reserved for the 4th primary partition. sda5 is inside the extended.
[21:45] <Casey> dear god, I was looking at the wrong MB yet again, it does have 10/100/1000 (sorry I've boughten a lot of crap from newegg.com lately...ok I'm back to square one...
[21:46] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid,  Trust me, this is the easy part,lol. XD Wait till you get repo conflicts and half installed programs
[21:46] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, what? :(
[21:46] <andreas1> Oh theres more : o Well basics first i geuss
[21:46] <deepocean> k1l: ah ok. I assume you can only have 4 primary partions then
[21:46] <CheckDavid> Please no RaveYoda lol
[21:46] <curatrix> Casey: Check the bios/cmos. There is often a setting for lan speed
[21:46] <deepocean> k1l: Ok I will boot back into Ubuntu again
[21:46] <deepocean> brb
[21:47] <k1l> deepocean: yes. only 4 primary possible
[21:47] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, ah damn now bootin crashed. Well well, so you said what? Pendrivelinux?
[21:47] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, Linux is great when it works but a total bit** when it doesn't
[21:48] <Casey> Just to clarify; here is the board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138373
[21:48] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, Yup
[21:48] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[21:49] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, wait wait wait, wrong link
[21:50] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, though that is a great site
[21:50] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, here is the link for the program:: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[21:50] <bughead> hi
[21:51] <reisio> hi
[21:51] <deepocean> k1l,  thank you for your assistance
[21:51] <CheckDavid> I found it through ubuntu.com RaveYoda but thanks
[21:51] <Casey> when I go to network tools it says link speed not available. I can't restart right now, doing a data recovery on machine
[21:52] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, Oh, well ether way it's the only other program I know of that will burn the img to the usn
[21:52] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, If you were in Ubuntu i'd recommend Multisystem
[21:52] <curatrix> CheckDavid: Did you download the ISO first or are you using unetbootin to fetch the data?
[21:53] <RaveYoda> curatrix,  he downloaded it the first time with unet
[21:53] <bughead> im having a problem using ubuntu 13, unity is so damn slow, i have a intel xeon e3-1230 and 16 gb ram and some graphicscard i found (ati hd 5xxx), is it slow because of the gpu?
[21:54] <RaveYoda> curatrix,  second time through ubus site
[21:54] <CheckDavid> In ubuntu RaveYoda ?
[21:54] <CheckDavid> curatrix, yeah, I relied on Unetbooin to download it for me
[21:54] <curatrix> bughead: Most likely, yes
[21:54] <curatrix> CheckDavid: FWIW I always download the iso first (it seems to be more stable)
[21:55] <CheckDavid> Weird.
[21:55] <bughead> curatrix: ok, i thought so, i used arch linux with awesome and other ubuntu distros like lubuntu and they were all pretty fast.
[21:55] <CheckDavid> But I did that now
[21:55] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, Multisystem is handy for burning multiple isoes to usb. It's only for linux though
[21:55] <curatrix> bughead: You should be able to use the fglrx driver.
[21:55] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, Ah, I have only 4 gb in it anyway =P
[21:56] <curatrix> bughead: The HD's will always run a little hot but it should be fast
[21:56] <bughead> curatrix: i used to try it some months ago, but it was incompatible and killed the system^ ^
[21:56] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, XD Yes, so a bit small. My 8gb usb has three isoes on it for comp repair and disinfecting.
[21:57] <bughead> but i give it a second try, i hope i come back
[21:57] <curatrix> bughead: I shouldnt probably say it in here but you could try Mint 13 (ubuntu base).   It works reasonably well (touch wood) with the HD GPU's
[21:57] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, Is the persistent file a sort of save file?
[21:57] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, YUMI (for windows) seems to be a good alternative to Multisystem
[21:58] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, It's the location that stores you're info like docs and stuff. Aparently it can be used to install other programs too.
[21:58] <CheckDavid> I see
[21:59] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, but adding programs can break the live install sys as was said by the other fella.
[22:00] <CheckDavid> If it breaks I install again
[22:01] <CheckDavid> Also, the persistent file step is taking forever.
[22:01] <bughead> im back, my system didnt break, but i have a nice transparent picture on the right-lower corner saying "amd unsupported hardware" ^ ^
[22:01] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, it takes time
[22:02] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, about 2-3 minutes i'd give a tenative guess?
[22:02] <curatrix> bughead: It might pay to sudo apt-get purge fglrx       and then try the amd installer
[22:02] <CheckDavid> 2-3 minutes? No, the bar is on the same place for the past, maybe 10 minutes RaveYoda
[22:03] <CheckDavid> Apparently I have no way of checking if something is being done or this is simply stuck RaveYoda ?
[22:03] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, This is in? Unetbootin or the other program
[22:03] <turkish> hey guys
[22:03] <deepocean> hi
[22:03] <CheckDavid> THe new one you gave me.
[22:03] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, ^
[22:03] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, I hate windows....
[22:04] <turkish> Which is the best os ubuntu  or mint?
[22:04] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, right click on the task bar and go to task manager
[22:04] <CheckDavid> I need it to launch ubuntu anyway =(
[22:04] <curatrix> turkish: it is the same girl with a different dress
[22:04] <CheckDavid> Whoaaa, it went full in a split second now
[22:05] <turkish> I have both got fed up with shitty windows
[22:05] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, the should be a tab that shows the number of your cores and stuff running
[22:05] <CheckDavid> OK bye Imma try to laucnh this RaveYoda I am short on time
[22:05] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, It finished?
[22:05] <bughead> well i read to use flgrx-updates and i did, the watermark is gone
[22:05] <bughead> but still really slow
[22:05] <turkish> I was speaking to some people who have siad the new ubuntu wasn't upto much?
[22:06] <turkish> and they suggested mint
[22:06] <k1l> turkish: better ask in ##linux
[22:06] <bughead> maybe somebody can recommand me a good graphics card with good compatibility and good to use with steam on linux
[22:06] <curatrix> turkish: I prefer xfce on mint (for my daily driver)
[22:06] <k1l> turkish: as this is the ubuntu support channel we will suggest ubuntu because that is what is supported here
[22:06] <turkish> ok lol
[22:07] <RaveYoda> turkish,  go with Mint Mate edition
[22:07] <meffff> hi
[22:07] <k1l> !mint
[22:07] <meffff> I can't launch any applications on ubuntu 12.04
[22:08] <RaveYoda> kll, ok ok
[22:08] <turkish> ne good tuts/guide to get me used  to linux  i am not used  to doing stuff from the command line
[22:08] <meffff> apps are not listed in the launcher
[22:11] <curatrix> bughead: If you go into the catalyst control center .......turn all settings  to performance.  This should get back 99%of your speed
[22:11] <meffff> I also can't start the terminal
[22:12] <curatrix> meffff: It may be a one off glitch......Can you perform a restart with the power button
[22:12] <Guest56179> olaaa
[22:13] <meffff> I can but not sure if I'll be able to open a browser after that
[22:13] <abaddon_> CheckDavid, i'll be back later. Hope it all works out
[22:14] <meffff> I performed some installations (failed) and then sudo apt-get install  -f
[22:14] <meffff> after that I got the problem
[22:14] <curatrix> ewwww
[22:14] <curatrix> try sudo apt-get autoremove
[22:14] <bughead> curatrix: i've done it, no improvement
[22:15] <bughead> hd5450
[22:15] <curatrix> bughead: Is it running hot?
[22:17] <[1]tom> made a 12.04 live dvd, and i want to overwrite the 10.04 i have installed now. following the installer, it said the minimum partition size i could make was something like 140gb; that doesnt sound right to me
[22:17] <bughead> curatrix: well i dont know, the cooling body is touchable
[22:18] <CheckDavid_> RaveYoda, Well, stuck again at that screen with ubuntu on the center of it, yet this time no message saying it was the first time I was running it.
[22:19] <Guest95684> hi all, i am getting a message like Kernel panic not syncing: vfs unable to mount root file system, this is an other laptop, and i also encounter problems to shutdown, ple
[22:19] <Guest95684> ase help me
[22:19] <Guest95684> is there a security issue this days?
[22:19] <Guest95684> *these days..
[22:20]  * curatrix is getting a coffee .......back in a tick
[22:21] <xiudo> Hello everyone
[22:21] <xiudo> In for 1 Ubuntu Edge :D
[22:21] <xiudo> whooohoo
[22:22] <unpredictx> türk varmı
[22:23] <OerHeks> !tr
[22:24] <unpredictx>  /join #ubuntu-tr
[22:24] <OerHeks> no space before /
[22:27] <DoWhileGeek> why is ubuntu forums down?
[22:27] <CheckDavid_> Hey RaveYoda you there?
[22:28] <OerHeks> DoWhileGeek, you know as much as we do, join #ubuntuforum for discussion
[22:28] <DoWhileGeek> OerHeks +1
[22:29] <OerHeks> and keep hitting F5 offcourse
[22:29] <CheckDavid_> Mr RaveYoda , you there? =)
[22:30] <DoWhileGeek> OerHeks, not sure if im dumb or your trolling..
[22:30] <unpredictx> what else would you recommend Ubuntu distribution.
[22:30] <unpredictx> guys what else would you recommend Ubuntu distribution.
[22:31] <reisio> unpredictx: that's hard to parse
[22:32] <k1l> unpredictx: go with ubuntu
[22:32] <[Raiden]> unpredictx: try kubuntu
[22:32] <OerHeks> ubuntu 1gb xubuntu 512 mb lubuntu 256 mb
[22:33]  * OerHeks loves Kubuntu
[22:33] <[Raiden]> and im
[22:33] <curatrix> bughead: I am thinking of two possibilities, one. too much eye-candy  or two , a process is hogging the cpu.
[22:34] <OerHeks> DoWhileGeek, not trolling, we know as much as the ubuntuforum page says: problem solved, now restoring backups.
[22:35] <curatrix> bughead:  the eye-candy is easy to fix ...... Though a runaway process could be tricky. (a lan/wifi/bt module is commonly at fault here)
[22:37] <bughead> curatrix: well a cpu at max 10 % and 1 gb ram is used, but using the unity menu is still very slow
[22:38] <wilee-nilee> unpredictx, There are 100's of options do like us and find one you like, this is actual support.
[22:38] <bughead> curatrix: the animation is not smooth , and it takes a lot of time to open programs, but when the programs are started they run normally
[22:39] <bughead> curatrix: i never had this problem with unity2d
[22:39] <mefff> I can't load a session in ubuntu 12.04.
[22:39] <D-coy> xD
[22:40] <curatrix> bughead: It is likely to be unity (it is pretty resource intensive). Not much you can do beyond turning off the eye-candy and ensuring that the display is running at the right resolution
[22:40] <n00b33> hi. anybody familiar with the google-earth package?
[22:40] <mefff> after running install ubuntu desktop I got gconf2 error
[22:40] <curatrix> n00b33: it is playing up
[22:41] <bughead> curatrix: well i tried using ubuntu tweak and ccsm turning off all the eye candy, but it seems not to work...
[22:41] <curatrix> n00b33: I can get it to work(limited) if I manually start it from its source location /opt/ something something
[22:42] <n00b33> im running a acer one (aoa-150) using the intel 945 gma graphics chip.  Google-earth kinda bytch slapped me and said I needed a better graphics card. LOL!  Any work-arounds?
[22:42] <joshu_> anyone familiar with this https://launchpad.net/lightdm-remote-session-freerdp and can please explain how to use it from lightdm? Does it only work if you have an account with canonical?
[22:44] <curatrix> n00b33: googleearth isnt working on linux at the moment
[22:44] <n00b33> so i should try /opt/ from the commandline... oh okay
[22:44] <n00b33> *boggles*
[22:44] <curatrix> n00b33: no
[22:44] <joshu_> when I say account I mean UCCS
[22:46] <curatrix> n00b33: it is in /opt/google/earth/free/
[22:46] <deepocean> Why is it taking for ages before the installation of a simple program completes?
[22:46] <shahan> hiya, how would I view all installed "programs"/Packages  arranged by size, as in everything installed on my computer?
[22:47] <FreezingCold> What hashing method did the forum use?
[22:47] <FreezingCold> sha or md5?
[22:47] <curatrix> deepocean: We are all sharing the server (for free) and the poor thing can only take so much
[22:47] <deepocean> Ah ok :D
[22:47] <mefff> gconf2 gives an error when trying to install ubuntu desktop.
[22:47] <FreezingCold> In case you guys missed it, all of our usernames, email and "encrypted" passwords were leaked on the Ubuntu forums
[22:47] <curatrix> linux is too good ;)
[22:48] <deepocean> FreezingCold, what do you mean?
[22:48] <k1l> FreezingCold: #ubuntuforums
[22:48] <anonymous_12> hi
[22:48] <FreezingCold> deepocean: forums got hacked
[22:48] <FreezingCold> k1l: thanjks
[22:48] <anonymous_12> hi gays
[22:48] <FreezingCold> goodbye anonymous_12
[22:48] <deepocean> FreezingCold, ah ok. Good thing I am not registered.
[22:49] <FreezingCold> deepocean: I forgot I even was
[22:49] <anonymous_12> do you live
[22:49] <deepocean> hehe
[22:49] <deepocean> FreezingCold, hope you dont have the same password for your email
[22:49] <n00b33> curatrix:  is there a package for 3d shader support for an aoa-150 (acer aspire one) with gma 945?
[22:50] <k1l> FreezingCold: deepocean everyone go notified by email. so for further discussion please join #ubuntu-offtopic to keep this channel clear for support
[22:50] <deepocean> ok
[22:50] <k1l> *got
[22:51] <deepocean> I am running PlayOnLinux now so I can install MS Office 2010. Moment of truth for me! as a windows switcher
[22:51] <myne3> hihi all
[22:51] <queenmoeblob> hey
[22:51] <deepocean> hello
[22:52] <reisio> deepocean: install libreoffice instead
[22:52] <reisio> myne3: hi
[22:52] <deepocean> reisio, I am not in the liberty of doing that. I need office for work
[22:52] <myne3> hi got some problems when to install wireless card driver for broadcom
[22:53] <reisio> deepocean: nah
[22:53] <myne3> somebody can help me ...
[22:53] <deepocean> reisio, did you happen to be Gentoo user in the  past?
[22:53] <deepocean> ok
[22:53] <reisio> deepocean: past, present, future
[22:53] <deepocean> haha
[22:53] <curatrix> n00b33: I dont know.
[22:53] <myne3> sory im new to linux os
[22:53] <Hilikus> sometimes my system doesn't shut down. the screen goes black but the CPU is still powered. i check my log and the the last thing i see is
[22:54] <Hilikus> Jul 23 01:15:30 hilikus-pc gnome-session[1635]: CRITICAL: gsm_manager_set_phase: assertion `GSM_IS_MANAGER (manager)' failed
[22:54] <Hilikus> Jul 23 01:15:30 hilikus-pc gnome-session[1635]: Gtk-CRITICAL: gtk_main_quit: assertion `main_loops != NULL' failed
[22:54] <queenmoeblob_> Every couple of minutes my fricking screen goes black and this text goes by too quickly for me to read [but I think it says something about cups??] and it's really annoying urgh
[22:54] <curatrix> queenmoeblob: cups is a print server for *nix
[22:54] <abaddon_> CheckDavid, iYou there?
[22:55] <deepocean> what mobile phones do you guys use?
[22:55] <myne3> somebody can help me?with my driver installation on obuntu
[22:56] <k1l> !ot | deepocean
[22:56] <reisio> deepocean: I use a phone that is smart
[22:56] <abaddon_> myne3, what isd the driver?
[22:56] <deepocean> myne3, I am a beginner too, but you may want to be more specific about your problem.
[22:56] <curatrix> myne3: I hate to say it but your best option is to search for your broadcom card when the forums are back online
[22:56] <myne3> sory...tq...
[22:56] <deepocean> reisio, that is a smart answer by a answer guy about a smart phone
[22:57] <reisio> ikr? :p
[22:58] <Naugh> hello there :P
[23:09] <xibalba> my resolv.conf says
[23:09] <xibalba> # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
[23:09] <xibalba> #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[23:09] <xibalba> so where am i suppose to place it
[23:10] <FloodBot1> xibalba: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:10] <xibalba> changing the function of resolv.conf was retarded
[23:11] <sam113101> GUYS HELP
[23:11] <xibalba> sam113101, what
[23:12] <sam113101> the font in gtk2 apps is ugly
[23:12] <sam113101> how do I set it to the default?
[23:12] <xibalba> oh pff
[23:12] <xibalba> thought it was an important issue
[23:12] <sam113101> it is
[23:12] <usr13> xibalba: There are several ways to handle it.  One is the network-manager.  Another is to edit your router's config and supply valid nameserver for it to give to clients.
[23:14] <deepocean> Unbelievable, it looks like Office 2010 is going to succeed. Knocking off on wood
[23:15] <usr13> deepocean: What?
[23:16] <deepocean> usr13, looks like my office2010 installation on PlayOnLinux going to succeed.
[23:16] <usr13> deepocean: Oh, ok.
[23:16] <deepocean> usr13, for a long time Office was the only reason why I couldnt migrate to Linux
[23:16] <usr13> deepocean:  Not sure why you wouldn't just use libreoffice though....
[23:17] <usr13> deepocean: Why would MS Office be a reason not to migrate to Linux?
[23:17] <deepocean> usr13, I run a lot of Excel sheets with VBA in them. They break even in Mac Office
[23:17] <usr13> VBA?
[23:17] <zryan> hi all
[23:17] <deepocean> usr13, visual basic for excel
[23:17] <reisio> hi
[23:17] <achandra> usr13, visual basic ;)
[23:18] <usr13> Oh.  Ok.
[23:18] <usr13> I didn't know that.
[23:18] <zryan> how to fix the problme??  (he's dead jim chrome)
[23:18] <achandra> deepocean, the real question is how to deal with vendor lock in
[23:19] <RaveYoda> deepocean, you can install ms office through wine
[23:19] <achandra> deepocean, in the event and you've experienced this with Mac...
[23:19] <achandra> deepocean, that you right now are locked in right?
[23:19] <achandra> deepocean, and the linux solution even if you found a way to get those sheets in database and present it openly would change that
[23:20] <deepocean> achandra, its not as easy
[23:20] <achandra> deepocean, is there some tooling or a shift...sure.. but then you'd be free ;)
[23:20] <Omen_20> Hi, does anyone know why I can lock CIRC to the launcher, but other Chrome package apps like Keep won't work?
[23:20] <achandra> deepocean,  the other idea is install virtual box and have windows vm
[23:21] <zryan> he's dead jim chrome
[23:21] <RaveYoda> achandra,  he doesn't need a vm,. Just wine
[23:22] <deepocean> haha LoL: after setup "MS Windows" requires a legitimate restart of Windows.
[23:22] <reisio> zryan: https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/1270364?hl=en
[23:22] <achandra> RaveYoda,  id think he'd get all the native functionality without having to deal with weird interaction issues with vb and excel over wine
[23:22] <achandra> RaveYoda, if he ran a vm -- fine get the ms stuff, and still have ubuntu as a main desktop
[23:22] <achandra> anyhow..my 2 cents
[23:23] <RaveYoda> achandra,  which would be pointless
[23:23] <RaveYoda> achandra,  why use ubu just to use windows?
[23:23] <achandra> RaveYoda,  well he'd get to primarily use ubuntu for everything else...and use windows just for that function that he's locked into
[23:24] <achandra> RaveYoda, ive done such a thing with wine...and it doesnt play well with interaction of excel and vb
[23:24] <RaveYoda> achandra,  Besides, wine has focused a lot on running ms office just because that is one of the most requested support for
[23:24] <achandra> RaveYoda, just speaking from experience
[23:24] <BAGHDAD> hello, I have a problem with my wireless card's tx-power
[23:25] <RaveYoda> achandra,  have you run it through playonlinux?
[23:25] <BAGHDAD> my Atheros wireless doesn't get txpower higher than 15dBm, but after I get close to the router and connect I can change it up to 27 dBm!
[23:25] <deepocean> Ah shoot
[23:26] <achandra> RaveYoda,  in all sorts of combinations including that one.. just think running windows natively that way, lets u spin up spin down, done.
[23:26] <deepocean> I cant load in the VBA addin in MS Excel
[23:26] <achandra> RaveYoda, but sure..he can try either ;)
[23:27] <RaveYoda> baggar11,  here try sudo iwconfig wlan0 txpower 25
[23:27] <RaveYoda> baggar11,  or whatever power rate it's supposed to be
[23:28] <RaveYoda> achandra, true true, he can try both. =P
[23:29] <qin> BAGHDAD: is it auto?
[23:29] <BAGHDAD> no
[23:29] <qin> BAGHDAD: How did you changed it?
[23:30] <RaveYoda> baggar11,  to do the command you may need to stop the device then do the cmd then start it up again
[23:30] <BAGHDAD>  sudo iwconfig wlan0 txpower 27
[23:30] <RaveYoda> BAGHDAD, ,  to do the command you may need to stop the device then do the cmd then start it up again
[23:31] <qin> BAGHDAD: all good, exect you need to: sudo iwconfig txpower off
[23:31] <BAGHDAD> I can change it up to 27 when I'm already connected
[23:31] <BAGHDAD> but when not connected, only up to 15
[23:31] <qin> mhh, or i am wrong.
[23:32] <RaveYoda> BAGHDAD,  sudo ifconfig wlan0 down THEN sudo iwconfig wlan0 txpower 27 THEN sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[23:32] <BAGHDAD> I'll try that RaveYoda. Thanks :)
[23:33] <RaveYoda> BAGHDAD,  Aight, hope it works
[23:34] <BAGHDAD> It automatically went back to 15dBm when I disconnected then reconnected :(
[23:34] <BAGHDAD> wait, it just popped up to 27 back again!
[23:35] <RaveYoda> BAGHDAD,  Whos method did you try?
[23:35] <BAGHDAD> Is the dBm stored with each ESSID?
[23:35] <BAGHDAD> I mean I feel that when I'm not connected, I don't catch my router unless I'm sitting right beside it!
[23:36] <BAGHDAD> While I can catch the network from the same place when on Windoz
[23:37] <RaveYoda> BAGHDAD,  you could try a diffrent network manager? See if Wicd works better?
[23:37] <antivirtel> Hello all! Has anyone have any comment to this question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/323509/lenovo-e525-lock-button-as-a-hotkey ?
[23:37] <RaveYoda> BAGHDAD,  Also, which method did you try that worked?
[23:38] <danielboston26> m having a issue installing updates
[23:38] <danielboston26> [19:34] <danielboston26> when i start the software updater i get this error
[23:38] <danielboston26> [19:35] <danielboston26> failed to download repository information check your internet connection
[23:38] <danielboston26> [19:35] <danielboston26> the problem is my internet connection is fine
[23:38] <danielboston26> [19:35] <danielboston26> what could be the issue?
[23:38] <danielboston26> hi
[23:38] <FloodBot1> danielboston26: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:39] <danielboston26> im having a issue installing updates
[23:39] <tigran_> how can I get current gpu clock speeds? I have an ati card using open source drivers
[23:39] <danielboston26>  when i start the software updater i get this error
[23:39] <danielboston26>  failed to download repository information check your internet connection
[23:40] <RaveYoda> danielboston26, try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[23:40] <danielboston26>  failed to download repository information check your internet connection
[23:40] <danielboston26> the problem is my internet connection is fine
[23:41] <RaveYoda> danielboston26, or try sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:42] <sam113101> how is the unity menu called?
[23:42] <danielboston26> still not working
[23:42] <danielboston26> this is strange
[23:42] <tigran_> danielboston26: did you get a differnet error this time?
[23:42] <tigran_> what was the output
[23:43] <danielboston26> got the same error pressed ok and the software update window opened with a bunch of updates
[23:43] <RaveYoda> danielboston26, did you do the command i gave you into cmd where you upgraded that way?
[23:43] <k1l> sam113101: dash
[23:43] <danielboston26> something is really screwed somewhere
[23:43] <danielboston26> RaveYoda:  yes it said there were no updates
[23:43] <danielboston26> something is definetly fucked
[23:43] <tigran_> danielboston26: do a sudo apt-get update
[23:43] <sam113101> k1l: what about the executable name? or is it part of something bigger
[23:44] <pzn> I have ubuntu 12.04 server 64, with raid1 (2HDs) + lvm + encrypted_root. when I try to boot with only 1 HD, I get the message "waiting for encrypted source device... ..." and it waits forever. any hints about how to solve this? thanks in advance
[23:44] <tigran_> then see if it still shows in the guo that there are updates
[23:44] <tigran_> gui*
[23:44] <danielboston26> tigran_: it does
[23:44] <sam113101> because the dash is buggy, I want to try to fix it
[23:44] <danielboston26> its updating now
[23:45] <k1l> sam113101: erm, its part of the desktop enviroment. dont know if its an own executable
[23:45] <tigran_> danielboston26: problem solved?
[23:47] <danielboston26> tigran_: not sure
[23:48] <antivirtel> Hello all! Has anyone have any comment to this question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/323509/lenovo-e525-lock-button-as-a-hotkey ?
[23:48] <RaveYoda> danielboston26, well what happens when you go to the update center?
[23:48] <danielboston26> RaveYoda: it appers to be updating now but it is very strange
[23:49] <RaveYoda> danielboston26, In what way?
[23:49] <danielboston26> RaveYoda:  i got the same error saying check internet connection when i pressed ok the update window popped up
[23:49] <RaveYoda> danielboston26, huh... I don't know. Sorry
[23:50] <chewyboy000> Hello?
[23:50] <sam113101> is there a channel for ubuntu dev?
[23:50] <chewyboy000> I'm not sure
[23:50] <danielboston26> tried ubuntu-dev?
[23:51] <chewyboy000> &6Hi
[23:51] <sam113101> doesn't seem to be that
[23:51] <chewyboy000> Would anyone recommend kubuntu or ubuntu?
[23:51] <arash> Hello , I have CCproxy installed on my server which is a https proxy + authentication
[23:52] <arash> I'd like to know how can I configure ubuntu on my pc to work with that ?
[23:52] <sam113101> chewyboy000: we all recommand them
[23:52] <RaveYoda> Does anyone know how to fix a problem where ubuntu fails to configure installing packages and leaves them in a broken state?
[23:52] <chewyboy000> No like which one
[23:52] <sam113101> chewyboy000: ubuntu, then
[23:52] <arash> Last time I tried Network proxy u:p@ip didn't work
[23:53] <jrib> RaveYoda: give more details
[23:53] <sam113101> chewyboy000: we're putting effort into the unity interface, it's the "main" ubuntu, kde in kubuntu is almost let untouched
[23:54] <xiudo> does anyone know will the Ubuntu Edge work with USA verizon?
[23:54] <RaveYoda> jrib, ok, Itry to install Wicd and the package wicd-daemon fails to configure. I try to remove wicd and it just stalls saying it's removing wicd.
[23:54] <k1l> xiudo: #ubuntu-touch is the channel for the phones
[23:55] <jrib> RaveYoda: pastebin full input and output
[23:55] <alami> hello, i have ubuntu 13.04 and vbox 4.2.16, with windows 8, and it crash all the time, any one know a fix for this bug?
[23:55] <RaveYoda> jrib, what uoutput?
[23:55] <arash> Network > Network proxy doesnt work well
[23:56] <myne3> can  get obuntu llist channel?
[23:56] <jrib> RaveYoda: from the commands you ran
[23:56] <RaveYoda> whats the link to paste stuff
[23:56] <myne3> *list
[23:56] <RaveYoda> jrib, whats the link to paste stuff
[23:56] <jrib> !paste | RaveYoda
[23:58] <RaveYoda> jrib,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5905854/
[23:58] <myne3> sory i newbie on irc.....haven't long time not using irc..
[23:58] <jrib> RaveYoda: this doesn' show anything wrong
[23:58] <myne3> :P
[23:58] <RaveYoda> jrib,  yes; all it does though is sit there twiddling its thumbs
[23:59] <jrib> RaveYoda: so did you do anything "interesting" with apt, dpkg, or your sources before this started happening?
[23:59] <RaveYoda> jrib,  it wont remove the package and it wont install it because it wont configure it ether